mitnick-digest Tuesday, October 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 180 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:56:12 +0000 From: Tom Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin Zach Miller wrote: > > Info was given in the verification message when you first subscribed, and its > in the > headers of every email on the list > > John wrote: > > > Not to sound like a dick, but I need to unsubscribe this email from this > > list. (dont worry, i will subscribe another one.. just not this one :) ) > > Unfortunately, I cant find info on how to do it. Send mail to the list with 'unsubscribe mitnick' in the BODY ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:38:18 -0500 From: "XxGaLxX" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin No you send it to majordomo@2600.com with unsubscribe mitnick in the body. - ---------- > From: Tom > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin > Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 7:56 PM > > Zach Miller wrote: > > > > Info was given in the verification message when you first subscribed, and its > > in the > > headers of every email on the list > > > > John wrote: > > > > > Not to sound like a dick, but I need to unsubscribe this email from this > > > list. (dont worry, i will subscribe another one.. just not this one :) ) > > > Unfortunately, I cant find info on how to do it. > Send mail to the list with 'unsubscribe mitnick' in the BODY ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:25:32 +0000 From: Tom Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin XxGaLxX wrote: > > No you send it to majordomo@2600.com with unsubscribe mitnick in the body. > > ---------- > > From: Tom > > To: mitnick@2600.com > > Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 7:56 PM > > > > Zach Miller wrote: > > > > > > Info was given in the verification message when you first subscribed, > and its > > > in the > > > headers of every email on the list > > > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > > Not to sound like a dick, but I need to unsubscribe this email from > this > > > > list. (dont worry, i will subscribe another one.. just not this one > :) ) > > > > Unfortunately, I cant find info on how to do it. > > Send mail to the list with 'unsubscribe mitnick' in the BODY Oops, Sorry! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:07:16 -0400 From: Dan Sissman Subject: [mitnick] Mitnick Merchandise Just in case anyone has any lingering doubts about ordering merchandise from Kevin Joubert, I received some stuff this weekend. (t-shirts, pens and pencils) Everything looks great! - -- Dan Sissman, amateur triviaphile Free Kevin Mitnick! http://www.albany.net/~dsissman http://www.kevinmitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:38:43 -0500 From: Zach Miller Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin REPEAT: Look in the headers!!!! Tom wrote: > XxGaLxX wrote: > > > > No you send it to majordomo@2600.com with unsubscribe mitnick in the body. > > > > ---------- > > > From: Tom > > > To: mitnick@2600.com > > > Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin > > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 7:56 PM > > > > > > Zach Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > Info was given in the verification message when you first subscribed, > > and its > > > > in the > > > > headers of every email on the list > > > > > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not to sound like a dick, but I need to unsubscribe this email from > > this > > > > > list. (dont worry, i will subscribe another one.. just not this one > > :) ) > > > > > Unfortunately, I cant find info on how to do it. > > > Send mail to the list with 'unsubscribe mitnick' in the BODY > Oops, Sorry! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 05:43:04 +0000 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] Only 3 months left As of today, October 19, there's exactly 3 months till Kevin goes to trial, and he still hasn't seen any of that electronic evidence the government has spent months going over. If you've read any of the court transcripts, you've seen how impatient Judge Pfaelzer is getting with the whole case. Even if Kevin and his lawyer aren't ready to go to trial, there's a good chance she'll just refuse to put it off any longer, like she flatly refused to let kevin have a bail hearing. This is a very good time to write letters to politicians and the media. kerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:48:37 -0700 (PDT) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin Dear thread perpetuators, KILL IT! Try private email to the neophytes. Yours truly, <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure - - - - - - To do: 1) Purchase soundtrack from 'Permanent Midnight' 2) Forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:48:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jérôme N." Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin unsubscribe mitnick - ---Zach Miller wrote: > > > Info was given in the verification message when you first subscribed, and its > in the > headers of every email on the list > > John wrote: > > > Not to sound like a dick, but I need to unsubscribe this email from this > > list. (dont worry, i will subscribe another one.. just not this one :) ) > > Unfortunately, I cant find info on how to do it. > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:29:37 +0300 From: "-smOke-" Subject: [mitnick] Hey There!!!!! Hi!!!!! I'm from russia, Can enybody help me to make my own mailing list on russian part of the INTERNET about Kevin Mitnick? All of texts will be in russian language. If you have some scripts, ideas or examples, send it to me! I think, that Russia have tons of Mitnik fans! Let them to exchange knowlege!!! Thanx Bye-bye! - -smOke- smoke@royal.net http://smOke.CyberPunk.Ru *****Under Construction***** Alternative e-mail adress: lighthousekeeper@bigfoot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 05:11:28 -0700 From: Caliban Tiresias Darklock Subject: Re: [mitnick] OT: Language and the Internet On 12:29 PM 10/19/98 +0300, I personally witnessed -smOke- jumping up to say: > >Can enybody help me to make my own mailing list >on russian part of the INTERNET about Kevin Mitnick? >All of texts will be in russian language. Hmm. This actually got me to thinking. Now, on the one hand, this is a good thing. If there are lots of Russian Mitnick supporters, they could start a mailing list and... wait a minute. And what? If they don't want to join the English-speaking list, then they probably don't want to read the English web site, translate the English flyers, or in fact do much of anything related to the primarily English-speaking cause around Kevin. Maybe I'm being overly unfair, and what they really want is a mailing list they can post to and read in their native language -- after all, I certainly haven't gone out and learned Finnish to join a couple of intriguing mailing lists, although the thought had crossed my mind when I first found them -- but it seems to me that we already have a ton of Mitnick supporters (I prefer not to call them fans; it makes him sound like Leonardo DiCaprio, and he most certainly didn't get himself arrested for the publicity) exchanging knowledge, and to start a Russian list would just divide the supporters into two groups: those who read and write English, and those who read and write Russian. Now, the internet has gone some distance in creating an international language that isn't French, but it's done so in a pretty unfair fashion -- by starting in a country that spoke a certain language. But then, the UN speaks English. English is pretty much the international language already. (Although if we were to select one democratically, it would probably end up being Mandarin Chinese.) So the question is... at least from my perspective... how much effort should we invest to support other people's native languages on the internet? Should I translate my web site into a language they can understand? Should they translate theirs into a language *I* can understand? (Nobody's going to, so I guess the question is moot.) When we start and operate mailing lists like this one, is it reasonable and acceptable to demand that everyone on it speak English? Or, more succinctly, has the English language become a "system recommendation" for using the internet? (Sort of like software that says "Pentium 100 required, Pentium II 300 recommended"... which we all understand means you *could* run it on a P100, but you'd better have a PII-300 if you want it to be halfway usable.) Lest I be misunderstood, let me clarify that I don't actually oppose the creation of a Russian Mitnick list -- and hell, if someone wants to start such a thing, who are we to stop him anyway? -- but it just got me to thinking about languages and the internet in general. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- As the fire burneth a wood, and the flame setteth the mountains on fire; So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. - ---------------------------[ Psalms, 83:14-15 ]--------------------------- Caliban Tiresias Darklock | "Hell, you don't Darklock Communications | know me." FREE KEVIN MITNICK! | - Charles Manson - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass he'll kick the shit out of you. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:34:57 EDT From: Antboy23@aol.com Subject: Re: [mitnick] Only 3 months left In a message dated 10/19/98, 2:07:37 AM,jump0@mindspring.com (kerry) writes: %As of today, October 19, there's exactly 3 months till Kevin goes to %trial, and he still hasn't seen any of that electronic evidence the %government has spent months going over.>> it is my understanding that the prosecution is requred, by law, to share all evidence against the accused in a timely manner. am i right to infer that the prosecution, in this case, is keeping evidence from kevins lawyer? ANTBOY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:27:19 +1100 (EST) From: Tony Brown Subject: Re: [mitnick] Only 3 months left On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 Antboy23@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/19/98, 2:07:37 AM,jump0@mindspring.com (kerry) writes: > %As of today, October 19, there's exactly 3 months till Kevin goes to > %trial, and he still hasn't seen any of that electronic evidence the > %government has spent months going over.>> > > it is my understanding that the prosecution is requred, by law, to share all > evidence against the accused in a timely manner. am i right to infer that the > prosecution, in this case, is keeping evidence from kevins lawyer? Yes, and have been for years - -Pulse ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:31:39 -0400 From: kerry Subject: Re: [mitnick] Only 3 months left Although the court has given permission for Kevin to review the evidence, the actual process of making the computer available to him is lagging in red tape and the usual threats and promises from the government. The govt/prosecution _says_ the info is freely available to him to look at, but there are a lot of "buts" and conditions that have to change first. I think one issue is that the govt has to inspect the computer he'll use, at which time it would be very easy for them to install a monitoring tool to see what Kevin's looking at. Obviously this would be very bad and unfair, but since the data is encrypted, they could use what they find by getting his key, and then later claim they'd broken the encryption themselves. I'm sure that's not the only issue involved; I don't know exactly what all's holding it up. One problem could be solved by getting a computer expert in LA to make sure the above scenario with the govt planting stuff in the computer doesn't happen. kerry At 02:34 PM 10/19/98 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/19/98, 2:07:37 AM,jump0@mindspring.com (kerry) writes: >%As of today, October 19, there's exactly 3 months till Kevin goes to >%trial, and he still hasn't seen any of that electronic evidence the >%government has spent months going over.>> > >it is my understanding that the prosecution is requred, by law, to share all >evidence against the accused in a timely manner. am i right to infer that the >prosecution, in this case, is keeping evidence from kevins lawyer? > >ANTBOY > *********************************************************** FREE KEVIN bumperstickers http://www.mindspring.com/~jump0 *********************************************************** PO Box 17435 - Raleigh NC 27619 - email jump0@mindspring.com checks/money orders payable to "Free Kevin Publicity Fund" *********************************************************** Stickers are sold at cost plus postage - we make no profit from this effort - donations are split equally between Kevin's Defense Fund and the Free Kevin Publicity Fund. *********************************************************** F R E E K E V I N http://www.KevinMitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:01:38 EDT From: BadGirlnLA@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] USSC denies bail application (again) Updates: 1. The United States Supreme Court denied the re-submitted bail application on October 19, 1998. Justice John Paul Stevens referred the application to the court for conference on Friday, October 16, 1998. No explanation was given for the denial. 2. The Kevin Mitnick Defense Fund has gone over the $6,000 mark. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:07:46 PDT From: "TelePhreak ." Subject: Re: [mitnick] Hey There!!!!! hey um, list bot makes one, goto www.listbot.com - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - F -TelePhreak R Email: AcidHak@Hotmail.com E mIRC: TelePhrk E ICQ: 10886438 K Aol Instant Messanger: TelePhrk 0 E NPA: 908 (NJ) V http://phonerangers.home.ml.org/ I - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - N ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:26:58 PDT From: "TelePhreak ." Subject: [mitnick]Win 95 Startup/Shutdown screens I've posted this before but the amount of people joining this list is crazy so most people haven't heard of this. I've made replacments for your win95 startup/shutdown screens. Basically its just changes the screen to have a 'Free Kevin' virtual bumper sticker on all of them. If you just goto http://members.xoom.com/TelePhreak/merch.html (which it also the site for 'Mitnick Merchandise') you can download it free of charge. Have fun, if you want me to make a customized one for you just ask i'll be glad to do it. - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - F -TelePhreak R Email: AcidHak@Hotmail.com E mIRC: TelePhrk E ICQ: 10886438 K Aol Instant Messanger: TelePhrk 0 E NPA: 908 (NJ) V http://phonerangers.home.ml.org/ I - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - N ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:18:13 GMT From: squatex@fdt.net (John Barleycorn) Subject: Re: [mitnick] Only 3 months left On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:34:57 EDT, Antboy23@aol.com shot across phone lines and fiber optic cable worldwide at amazing speeds: >In a message dated 10/19/98, 2:07:37 AM,jump0@mindspring.com (kerry) writes: >%As of today, October 19, there's exactly 3 months till Kevin goes to >%trial, and he still hasn't seen any of that electronic evidence the >%government has spent months going over.>> > >it is my understanding that the prosecution is requred, by law, to share all >evidence against the accused in a timely manner. am i right to infer that the >prosecution, in this case, is keeping evidence from kevins lawyer? > One thing that im sure is hindering the defense (i do believe emmanual has pointed this out on a couple of occassions including on a recent off the hook) is that the prosecution is pointing to literally gigs of evidence and saying :"ther ya go. its in ther." finding the important stuff in a list of files that large will be a lenghtly (if not impossible) process. dc.... squatex@fdt.net FREE KEVIN MITNICK NOW! - www.kevinmitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:34:58 -0400 From: kerry Subject: [mitnick] bail denied (again) The justice who received the emergency bail application, John P. Stevens, at least thought the application was important enough to refer to the Court. Small comfort at this point, since it did no good. By denying him bail, yet again, they're implying a hacker is more dangerous than a mob boss like John Gotti Jr, who got bail, than the Unabomber and the guy who bombed the World Trade Center, who at least got bail hearings. Since day 1, they've never lost their sense of paranoia about Kevin Mitnick... This is how the epilogue (by Katie Hafner) to the 1995 edition of "Cyberpunk" begins. (it should be noted the actual book's depiction of Kevin is 180 degrees opposite tho; the epilogue was written only after Hafner realized she and Markoff had published a very unfair image of kevin, verging on slanderous, in "Cyberpunk" in 1991.) "It was following his 1988 arrest...that the popular myth surrounding Kevin Mitnick first ignited. Local law enforcement officials rushed to see the US magistrate and urged that she deny bail. They told her that Mitnick had tampered with one judge's credit rating already and had disrupted the phone service of one of his probation officers. The suspect, they said, had once fled to Israel and there was no telling where he might run this time. The magistrate denied bail. "Newspapers portrayed him as an electronic terrorist, capable of triggering an electronic holocaust from a Touch-Tone telephone. 'Dark Side Hacker Seen as Electronic Terrorist' and 'Computer Whiz is a Threat to Society' read the headlines. He was placed in maximum security prison, and his use of the phone was heavily supervised. Mitnick's manual dexterity struck fear into his wardens. One imagines devices on his hands similar to the cage over Hannibal Lecter's mouth. "Alan Rubin, Mitnick's court-appointed lawyer, attempted to discredit some of the myths. Not only had Mitnick never fled to Israel, he had never been out of the country. Rubin didn't dispute the tampering with a probation officer's phone service, but he did insist that Mitnick had never altered a judge's credit rating. "...A year in prison wouldn't be enough for this dangerous criminal, whose sophisticated stunts the public found terrifying. 'We won't know the damage Mr. Mitnick has done until it's too late,' the judge told the courtroom..." *********************************************************** FREE KEVIN bumperstickers http://www.mindspring.com/~jump0 *********************************************************** PO Box 17435 - Raleigh NC 27619 - email jump0@mindspring.com checks/money orders payable to "Free Kevin Publicity Fund" *********************************************************** Stickers are sold at cost plus postage - we make no profit from this effort - donations are split equally between Kevin's Defense Fund and the Free Kevin Publicity Fund. *********************************************************** F R E E K E V I N http://www.KevinMitnick.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:02:23 -0500 From: "XxGaLxX" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin--unsubscribing ummm....if YOU would look, then you would find that that IS what it says. - ---------- > From: Zach Miller > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin > Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 11:38 PM > > REPEAT: Look in the headers!!!! > > Tom wrote: > > > XxGaLxX wrote: > > > > > > No you send it to majordomo@2600.com with unsubscribe mitnick in the body. > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: Tom > > > > To: mitnick@2600.com > > > > Subject: Re: [mitnick] Little Footer in Inc. Magazine about kevin > > > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 7:56 PM > > > > > > > > Zach Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Info was given in the verification message when you first subscribed, > > > and its > > > > > in the > > > > > headers of every email on the list > > > > > > > > > > John wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Not to sound like a dick, but I need to unsubscribe this email from > > > this > > > > > > list. (dont worry, i will subscribe another one.. just not this one > > > :) ) > > > > > > Unfortunately, I cant find info on how to do it. > > > > Send mail to the list with 'unsubscribe mitnick' in the BODY > > Oops, Sorry! > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:06:00 -0500 From: "terje" Subject: Re: [mitnick] OT: Language and the Internet >And what? > >If they don't want to join the English-speaking list, then they probably >don't want to read the English web site, translate the English flyers, or >in fact do much of anything related to the primarily English-speaking cause hmmmmm no offense but you know what this was an offer of someone who wants to help let them....why criticize their language...i mean hell the english language is one of the more obscure languages to learn. terje "don't you think its funny when nothings what it seems when yer not looking forward.." - the wonderstuff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:37:10 -0700 (PDT) From: rOTTEN Subject: Re: [mitnick] OT: Language and the Internet On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, terje wrote: > no offense but you know what this was an offer of someone who wants to help > let them....why criticize their language...i mean hell the english language > is one of the more obscure languages to learn. > > > terje The English language is by no means "obscure". <..rOTTEN..> nobody move, nobody get hurt error187(1) critical failure - - - - - - To do: 1) Purchase soundtrack from 'Permanent Midnight' 2) Forge in the smithy of my soul the uncreated conscience of my race. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:20:27 -0400 (EDT) From: ksandre Subject: [mitnick] USA Report [Rights For All] - Amnesty InterNational Below is a notice about the new issue of Amnesty International's USA Report on USA abuse of Rights. It contains substantial information and statistics relating to abuses within the US, including prisoners. (It also has some useful links.) ============================================ >From ddiam@tiac.net Mon Oct 12 12:47:27 1998 To: NH Peace Action Mailing List Subject: Amnesty International report on the US On Saturday, Oct. 10, Amnesty International issued its report on the United States. This is a comprehensive report that highlights US hypocrisy in a number of areas from domestic to international relations, Amnesty International: USA Campaign - Rights For All, Reports, briefings and focus URL: http://www.rightsforall-usa.org/info/report/index.htm ===== =EOF= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:40:09 +0300 From: "-smOke-" Subject: [mitnick] Language Ok!! For example i speak russian and learned franch in shcool. I learn russian & french part of internet, but why i can't find someone, who makes translations of english sites&maillists and must learn third language instead of reading translated one? Then i will learn finish, jewdish & zimbabwe language for reading their interesting lists and sites!!! And what? I can't speak about Mitnick, because he speaks english? Not serious ;) Wonderful!!!!!!! Bye-bye! - -smOke- smoke@royal.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:29:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Roger D. [Skip] Slates II" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Only 3 months left The prosecution's strategy is equivalent to pointing to a building full of loose papers and documents and saying, "The evidence is all in there!" Skip On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 Antboy23@aol.com wrote: > it is my understanding that the prosecution is requred, by law, to share all > evidence against the accused in a timely manner. am i right to infer that the > prosecution, in this case, is keeping evidence from kevins lawyer? > > ANTBOY > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:35:55 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] Language altavista's babelfish will translate it for u - -smOke- wrote: > Ok!! > For example i speak russian and learned franch in shcool. > I learn russian & french part of internet, but why i can't find someone, > who makes translations of english sites&maillists and must learn > third language instead of reading translated one? Then i will learn finish, > jewdish & zimbabwe language for reading their interesting lists and > sites!!! > And what? I can't speak about Mitnick, because he speaks english? > Not serious ;) > > Wonderful!!!!!!! > Bye-bye! > -smOke- > smoke@royal.net - -- |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV | | will be fought with sticks and stones." | |----------------------------------------[ Albert Einstein ]---------------------------------------| |che guevara | I know you've | |che guevara's realm | come to kill me. | |FREE KEVIN! | Shoot, coward, you're | |aim: | only going to kill a | |irc (efnet): | man"-Che Guevara | |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:45:43 -0400 From: Emmanuel Goldstein Subject: [mitnick] another display of justice in america CHICAGO (CNN) -- Two white men accused of brutally beating a 13-year-old black child who ventured into their neighborhood pleaded guilty to reduced charges Monday and were let off with probation and community service. Victor Jasas, 18, and Michael Kwidzinski, 21, had been charged with attempted first-degree murder and other offenses in the 1997 attack that left Lenard Clark brain-damaged. The original charges could have carried 30 years in prison; instead the men pleaded guilty to aggravated battery and received 30 months probation. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:07:10 -0400 From: "Tim O'Neill" Subject: Re: [mitnick] USA Report [Rights For All] - Amnesty InterNational Ever since I found out about this case, my first thought was: Where's Amnesty in all of this? >Below is a notice about the new issue of Amnesty International's >USA Report on USA abuse of Rights. It contains substantial information >and statistics relating to abuses within the US, including prisoners. >(It also has some useful links.) > >============================================ >From ddiam@tiac.net Mon Oct 12 12:47:27 1998 >To: NH Peace Action Mailing List >Subject: Amnesty International report on the US > >On Saturday, Oct. 10, Amnesty International issued its report on the >United States. This is a comprehensive report that highlights US >hypocrisy in a number of areas from domestic to international relations, > > >Amnesty International: USA Campaign - > Rights For All, Reports, briefings and focus > >URL: http://www.rightsforall-usa.org/info/report/index.htm > > >===== >=EOF= > Thanks! Sincerely, Tim O'Neill Alpha Design Services ___________________________________________________________ =========================================================== ICQ: 20105957 AIM: thealphaco Voice/Fax: (617) 249-0105 =========================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:42:13 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] another display of justice in america i think this deserves a letter writing campaign, i think so.... Emmanuel Goldstein wrote: > CHICAGO (CNN) -- Two white men > accused of brutally beating a > 13-year-old black child who ventured > into their neighborhood pleaded guilty > to reduced charges Monday and were > let off with probation and community > service. > > Victor Jasas, 18, and Michael > Kwidzinski, 21, had been charged with > attempted first-degree murder and other offenses in the 1997 attack that left > Lenard Clark brain-damaged. > > The original charges could have carried 30 years in prison; instead the men > pleaded guilty to aggravated battery and received 30 months probation. - -- |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV | | will be fought with sticks and stones." | |------------------------------[ Albert Einstein ]-------------------------------| |che guevara | I know you've | |che guevara's realm | come to kill me. | |FREE KEVIN! | Shoot, coward, you're | |aim: | only going to kill a | |irc (efnet): | man" -Che Guevara | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:08:47 EDT From: Antboy23@aol.com Subject: [mitnick] irc i'm sure this has been asked countless thousands of times, but could one of you kind souls post an irc server with channels on this subject. thank you ANTBOY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:14:49 -0500 From: "XxGaLxX" Subject: Re: [mitnick] OT: Language and the Internet - ---------- > From: rOTTEN > To: mitnick@2600.com > Subject: Re: [mitnick] OT: Language and the Internet > Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 1:37 AM > > On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, terje wrote: > > > no offense but you know what this was an offer of someone who wants to help > > let them....why criticize their language...i mean hell the english language > > is one of the more obscure languages to learn. > > > > > > terje > > The English language is by no means "obscure". I think what he means is that it is one of the hardest languages to learn. Which in ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:21:55 PDT From: "TelePhreak ." Subject: Re: [mitnick] another display of justice in america this is just another display of bullshit....somebody trys killing someone getts probation, someone play on a computer, gets 3 and a half years.... - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - F -TelePhreak R Email: AcidHak@Hotmail.com E mIRC: TelePhrk E ICQ: 10886438 K Aol Instant Messanger: TelePhrk 0 E NPA: 908 (NJ) V http://phonerangers.home.ml.org/ I - - - - - - - - ->Phone Rangers<- - - - - - - - - - - N ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:32:20 -0700 From: hugh field Subject: Re: [mitnick] OT: Language and the Internet Typical Americans: Our's is the best, so why should we learn something else. Realise that the English language uses a larger vocabulary than any other language in the world, has the most confusing syntax, spelling, and pronunciation, and follows none of its own rules consistantly. As to the writer who called the English language "obscure" - poor word choice. A better one would have been "difficult," "challenging," or "insanely complicated." ~hugh field (DarkJedi) rOTTEN wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, terje wrote: > > > no offense but you know what this was an offer of someone who wants to help > > let them....why criticize their language...i mean hell the english language > > is one of the more obscure languages to learn. > > > > > > terje > > The English language is by no means "obscure". > > <..rOTTEN..> > > nobody move, nobody get hurt > > error187(1) critical failure > - - - - - > To do: 1) Purchase soundtrack from 'Permanent Midnight' > 2) Forge in the smithy of my soul the > uncreated conscience of my race. - -- ********************************hugh field****************************** | redtide@serve.com | PGP public key @ www.serve.com/redtide/pgp.txt | ************************************************************************ | God: "If I were to tell you that there is an army of angels waiting | | in Heaven, and on the Day of Judgement they will be unleashed upon | | the world to slay all the unbelievers, what would your response be?" | | Response: "Pre-emptive nuclear strike." | ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:36:24 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: Re: [mitnick] irc i think maybe irc.lightning.net but u may have to use the aol server for efnet Antboy23@aol.com wrote: > i'm sure this has been asked countless thousands of times, but could one of > you kind souls post an irc server with channels on this subject. > > thank you > > ANTBOY - -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV | | will be fought with sticks and stones." | |--------------------------[ Albert Einstein ]---------------------------------| |che guevara | I know you've | |che guevara's realm | come to kill me. | |FREE KEVIN! | Shoot, coward, you're | |aim: | only going to kill a | |irc (efnet): | man"-Che Guevara | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:38:04 -0400 From: che guevara Subject: [mitnick] access can someone tell me that if i access my school's network from my home computer using either my assigned id or 'guest', would that be illegal? - -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV | | will be fought with sticks and stones." | |--------------------------[ Albert Einstein ]---------------------------------| |che guevara | I know you've | |che guevara's realm | come to kill me. | |FREE KEVIN! | Shoot, coward, you're | |aim: | only going to kill a | |irc (efnet): | man"-Che Guevara | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:06:11 -0400 From: "Bachrach" Subject: Re: [mitnick] Takedown script - -----Original Message----- From: kerry To: mitnick@2600.com Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 6:46 AM Subject: [mitnick] Takedown script >The Sprint tech says "How did a >private citizen get his hands on that...That makes me a little >nervous"... but he goes along with the unofficial/illegal investigation >anyways. ... >The question of privacy violations during the search is brought up when >they go to the "BALL" (WELL) - and it's very obvious shim doesn't care >if a well-user's rights were/may have been violated in their >investigation. ... >He also doesn't care if the Sprint tech in Raleigh risks losing >his job by giving them private cell records. Unfortunately this may not be as good as you think. It looks like Shim is being portrayed as a cowboy who doesn't follow the rules. If he is casted as the god guy (which he is when standing next to KM in the movie), then all this will work in his favor. He sounds like a goddam Chuck Norris type person now. (pardon the french, but I don't like norris either :)). How often in movies do we see the central character 'play by their own rules' simply because they thought it was right, and that is considered good. Didn't captain Kirk disobey whoever it was that was in charge and go near the federation-klingon meeting or whatever? Doesn't the rouge polive officer always beat up someone when they want information? Don't they ignore protocol like search warrants and such? And isn't that all considered to be another positive trait for them: being able to ignore protocol to do what's right. Before you all jump on my back, what I'm saying is this is how it's PORTRAYED, this is not what I think. (In fact, I believe almost the complete oposite.) Shim now looks like one of those guys, a cowboy-type law enforcer who plays by his own rules. Don't go overboard thinking that detracts from Shim's character. >Kevin and jsz speculate that it looks as though Shim wrote his evil >stealth >virus code - not for big brother, but just "Because he can"... jsz=? Did they change depayne's name or something? >It's amusing that Kevin and jsz can recognize worm and stealth virus >code!!! as it scrolls by on the screen. I don't think I've ever seen a movie where they used a computer and the computer didn't so something impossible (or almost completely unlikely). (notice how you never get a cursor, it's always a password prompt?)... ------------------------------ End of mitnick-digest V1 #180 *****************************