[00:00.000 --> 00:12.580] Gov. All of these links out here for timing in the elegant track of Fox and your communications networks are the biggest uses of the timing of this. [00:13.200 --> 00:24.740] Roads and highways for knowing where to put down the asphalt, space applications, aviation, so the airplanes can make GPS approaches, agriculture. [00:27.040 --> 00:32.820] John Deere, believe it or not, is one of the biggest movers in using GPS in farming equipment. [00:33.140 --> 00:42.160] So that they can plant seed and know where to harvest it using automation, basically automated harvesting systems. [00:43.160 --> 00:44.860] Marine, of course, your ships. [00:45.300 --> 01:06.200] Now the ships will take their GPS output, plug it into a radio called AIS, which is an automatic identification system, and then tramping on one of the marine frequencies, so that the Coast Guard using vessel trafficking service can keep track of all the ships in the harbor. [01:06.860 --> 01:08.740] And I should have had a link set up. [01:08.920 --> 01:14.200] Let's see if it will bring us those on the DPS sites. [01:15.520 --> 01:18.440] Winging to the bottom of these, goes to the Coast Guard Navigation Center. [01:20.100 --> 01:23.920] So all these links that you have available, give you all this information. [01:26.040 --> 01:30.040] Let's see, services into porting, let's see if I can do this here. [01:31.780 --> 01:53.480] But you can see, on this graphic, that, for example, here's a vessel coming into port through a channel, cannot be seen on river because of the ground in between, but AIS is transmitted to information by VHF radio. [01:53.980 --> 01:57.180] That gets picked up, and the Coast Guard knows where the ship is. [01:57.880 --> 02:05.860] So, all of these various methods of keeping track of things is wonderful stuff. [02:10.170 --> 02:12.360] Rail, Amtrak's driving to keep track of its trains. [02:12.520 --> 02:13.260] It's not just Amtrak. [02:13.820 --> 02:18.650] It's your freight railroads, keeping track of box cars and things. [02:18.650 --> 02:24.340] Again, in the marine environment, you've got your cargo containers. [02:24.880 --> 02:27.540] Some of them with valuable cargoes that they want to keep track of. [02:27.980 --> 02:29.360] Some of them just being expensive. [02:29.540 --> 02:30.480] Others being explosive. [02:30.900 --> 02:33.780] And they want to know where that is at all times. [02:33.930 --> 02:36.000] They want to make sure it does not get in the wrong hands. [02:36.240 --> 02:44.760] So they'll keep track of it using a GPS receiver that will then occasionally transfer its location once it's received the GPS information. [02:46.940 --> 02:49.020] That, I'll talk a little bit later. [02:50.400 --> 02:55.820] The National Geographic Survey is where you can find various maps and things. [02:56.500 --> 02:58.400] Emergency response imagery. [02:59.040 --> 03:09.080] There's all sorts of ways that they're using space satellites to keep track of where things are, where things are supposed to be located. [03:11.340 --> 03:13.520] I'm a ham radio operator among other things. [03:14.200 --> 03:23.660] And, let's see, let's go to find you dot com slash n4scy, my call sign to where I am today. [03:27.280 --> 03:28.560] Oh, excuse me. [03:29.560 --> 03:36.940] Mac dot find you dot com slash n4scy, my call sign to where I put myself here today. [03:37.780 --> 03:39.820] Nope, I'm still at home in Hebbledberry, Florida. [03:41.120 --> 03:41.920] Let's see. [03:52.540 --> 03:53.100] Hmm. [03:57.610 --> 03:58.740] All right. [04:00.210 --> 04:02.600] Now let's refresh the page and see where I am now. [04:17.060 --> 04:18.100] Oh, I'm sorry. [04:19.660 --> 04:21.880] Just think for us, you know, I just went to the home. [04:22.040 --> 04:26.000] Dash 9 shows you where I am now, which seems to be in Manhattan somewhere. [04:26.500 --> 04:36.780] So let's zip in, and what we do, we'll find that I am, why I'm at 33rd Street and 7th Avenue. [04:40.420 --> 04:44.020] And this is because I have sent my information into the database. [04:46.120 --> 04:50.420] And, you know, there's Ed Square Garden, Ed Station, and here's the hotel. [04:51.220 --> 04:52.460] So I have Google Maps. [04:53.580 --> 04:58.420] And I have a little car icon for the mobile ham radio station. [05:00.700 --> 05:03.960] But I can also send it in via Internet, which I have done in this case. [05:04.720 --> 05:08.840] But the ham radio operators, for the most part, let's see, nearby APRS activity. [05:08.840 --> 05:11.480] APRS is the automatic packet reporting system. [05:12.840 --> 05:13.860] Interesting is keen. [05:14.920 --> 05:16.920] Bob Braminga, an instructor at the U.S. [05:16.960 --> 05:23.120] Naval Academy, was trying to keep track of the little boats that the midshipmen were sailing up on Chesapeake Bay. [05:23.860 --> 05:30.000] And came up with a system that used fluorine back before the GPS satellites went up. [05:30.900 --> 05:33.740] And would report the positions back by an amateur radio. [05:34.480 --> 05:40.400] And it seems to become this worldwide phenomenon for taking the GPS output and playing it into camera radios. [05:41.040 --> 05:48.320] And people with more brains involved, more bucks than brains, will put these things in their cars and trucks and, you know, nearly drive down the road. [05:48.320 --> 05:50.960] Let's see where KC2TPD is today. [05:52.340 --> 05:58.340] And, you know, he's also in Manhattan, in the theater district somewhere, driving around. [06:01.140 --> 06:06.880] But the most amazing packet radio station is at ARISS.net. [06:07.680 --> 06:11.940] AR, amateur radio, ISS, the International Space Station. [06:14.700 --> 06:22.420] RS0ISS, is the Russian call sign for the space station. [06:23.940 --> 06:32.260] And a friend of mine, currently in Florida, who used to live in Houston, worked on the PECA radio system when he was in Houston. [06:33.620 --> 06:34.780] W5DI Blue. [06:35.420 --> 06:38.840] He's a big guy in the AMSAT community, Amateur Satellite Organization. [06:38.840 --> 06:44.020] These are stations that have transmitted packets via the International Space Station. [06:44.180 --> 06:46.220] With their hand-call signs and their locations showing. [06:49.340 --> 06:50.180] Let's see. [06:50.600 --> 06:56.140] Last heard, 9 hours, 40 minutes, and 12 seconds ago, in the case of the LW6 LID-3. [06:58.000 --> 06:58.480] Um... [06:58.480 --> 06:59.100] Let's see. [06:59.380 --> 07:00.120] We'll just put it in. [07:00.940 --> 07:01.360] Let's see. [07:01.460 --> 07:01.840] Where's Mark. [07:04.020 --> 07:04.440] Yeah. [07:08.320 --> 07:08.800] Um... [07:08.800 --> 07:10.360] Sixth land, he's probably got in California. [07:11.000 --> 07:12.300] It's been six years, each year. [07:14.760 --> 07:15.240] Um... [07:15.240 --> 07:16.540] South, he's a Blancaster, California. [07:25.940 --> 07:28.220] Not that far from the network's air-fold space. [07:29.460 --> 07:30.720] Remember, because that was... [07:30.720 --> 07:30.840] Uh... [07:30.840 --> 07:33.560] Lancaster's already had to check in for press credentials for the STS-1 landing. [07:34.100 --> 07:34.320] Uh... [07:34.320 --> 07:35.380] The air-fold space. [07:36.000 --> 07:36.900] Many years ago. [07:37.760 --> 07:38.160] Uh... [07:38.160 --> 07:38.840] I'm a space cadet. [07:40.200 --> 07:41.280] That's why I live in Florida. [07:41.300 --> 07:43.060] I'm kind of waiting for my ride home as I work. [07:46.560 --> 07:46.960] Um... [07:48.720 --> 07:51.880] But this is the fun part of, uh, GPS. [07:52.440 --> 07:53.580] Keeping track of things. [07:53.720 --> 07:54.700] Transmitting your position. [07:56.400 --> 07:56.960] Um... [07:56.960 --> 07:59.040] And keeping track of my amateur radio. [08:00.780 --> 08:01.340] Um... [08:01.340 --> 08:06.360] And because there's a hand radio on satellite that I can play with, that's really one of reasons I got my hand radio license. [08:06.940 --> 08:07.220] Um... [08:07.500 --> 08:11.000] There is a hand exam coming up Sunday morning here at the conference. [08:11.780 --> 08:12.120] Uh... [08:12.120 --> 08:20.220] If you spend half an hour, uh, looking over the book, uh, please, uh, do try and pass the exam. [08:20.480 --> 08:22.020] It's, uh, really worthwhile and much fun. [08:22.260 --> 08:24.000] You know, a whole lot of tech-clear-rated people. [08:24.200 --> 08:26.260] A lot of whom you'll not have to explain yourself to. [08:27.220 --> 08:27.660] Uh... [08:27.660 --> 08:29.540] And, uh, it's a pretty interesting avenue. [08:30.160 --> 08:31.040] A lot of fun. [08:31.220 --> 08:32.680] And give you lots of interesting things. [08:33.160 --> 08:35.160] Not so much fun things, but interesting things. [08:35.780 --> 08:36.180] Um... [08:36.180 --> 08:41.120] For example, I spent a week in Homestead, Florida, following Hurricane Andrews, not a few years ago. [08:41.700 --> 08:42.680] That's a great adventure. [08:43.220 --> 08:46.240] And, uh, I mean, you get to do things and go places as colleges. [08:46.240 --> 08:48.660] It doesn't know it's at there. [08:49.280 --> 08:50.600] And, uh, why would you want to? [08:50.740 --> 08:51.760] But it's technically interesting. [08:52.600 --> 08:53.040] So... [08:53.040 --> 08:54.860] I'm about to sort of think that was fun. [08:57.200 --> 08:57.640] Uh... [08:57.640 --> 08:58.140] Let's see. [08:58.260 --> 08:59.400] Getting back to topic. [09:01.040 --> 09:01.880] Let's see. [09:07.630 --> 09:09.010] My mobile phone schedule. [09:10.050 --> 09:19.930] Uh, for those of you who, um, have your mobile phones with web browsers in them, uh, if you go to h.ph2.mobi, I've got a schedule for the conference in there. [09:20.290 --> 09:25.930] You can just, uh, use your telephone valve for one, two, or three for, um, Friday, Saturday, or Sunday schedules. [09:26.550 --> 09:29.190] Uh, you can maneuver to the time of day you're interested in. [09:29.190 --> 09:30.450] You want to know it's on two o'clock. [09:30.650 --> 09:31.570] It'll jump you there. [09:32.610 --> 09:36.290] And, uh, you want to know, uh, what kind of kickback is. [09:36.870 --> 09:39.670] Put it on that and take it to the page and give you information. [09:40.170 --> 09:40.590] Ah! [09:40.590 --> 09:49.350] That little sound was one of the satellites, uh, just coming above the horizon in the, uh, Orbitron software. [09:49.950 --> 09:54.770] Um, I will have a link where you can download this Orbitron software for free on my GPS page. [09:54.890 --> 09:56.130] I forgot to put that on. [09:56.770 --> 09:59.470] So, uh, make sure you can do that. [10:01.810 --> 10:05.590] Uh, cheshirecatalyst.com slash GPS. [10:07.130 --> 10:07.630] Let [10:11.140 --> 10:12.920] me just jump on back to that. [10:13.640 --> 10:22.860] Um, my, uh, schedule for the HOPE conference can be found at thenexthope.mobi, M-O-B-I. [10:23.360 --> 10:25.100] But that can be a little fun intensive. [10:25.460 --> 10:30.100] It can also be found at h.ph2.mobi. [10:30.920 --> 10:35.120] Uh, the PH2 is for fun friendly, which has PHs on both words. [10:35.320 --> 10:36.280] That's the PH2 part. [10:36.940 --> 10:42.840] And, uh, that's a website I operate where I'm trying to make, uh, websites that are friendly for mobile phone web browsers. [10:43.940 --> 10:53.260] These apps for specific operating systems, like iPhone and Android, are wonderful if you have an iPhone or if you have an Android. [10:53.680 --> 11:01.500] But, since most people these days have a web browser on your phone, I'm creating web pages for the rest of us. [11:02.360 --> 11:07.940] Um, my whole concept is, uh, making information available. [11:08.960 --> 11:13.840] And, uh, has been since I helped publish the TAP newsletter, uh, back in the 70s and 80s. [11:14.600 --> 11:16.360] Which is, uh, beginning of my kind of thing. [11:17.280 --> 11:17.800] Um, [11:21.480 --> 11:25.280] so, that's pretty much it on the satellites themselves. [11:25.280 --> 11:29.240] Now, you'll notice the way the antennas are, uh, arranged. [11:29.760 --> 11:33.440] The antennas in the center are getting pretty much straight down. [11:33.720 --> 11:39.480] And the ones around the edges, well, you're trying to, uh, hit the atmosphere at an angle. [11:39.480 --> 11:43.160] And, uh, that could be a little problem if you look at one of our birds here. [11:44.000 --> 11:47.720] Um, so, let's try this one. [11:48.040 --> 11:52.560] The green line represents the horizon as seen from that satellite. [11:52.860 --> 11:55.280] So, it, it covers about half the Earth. [11:56.180 --> 12:00.820] Um, right now it's going to be at an elevation of 62.7 degrees for us. [12:00.980 --> 12:04.340] So, that's going to be a pretty straight shot down from the satellite. [12:04.340 --> 12:07.720] These satellites are about 12,000 miles up. [12:08.260 --> 12:13.560] Um, this is called a medium Earth orbit. [12:13.820 --> 12:18.200] And it takes about 12 hours to, uh, orbit the globe at this altitude. [12:18.980 --> 12:22.180] And this is, uh, just pretty far around. [12:22.320 --> 12:30.020] You'll notice that the, the orbit practically carries an almost straight line down the, uh, lines of longitude. [12:30.020 --> 12:34.200] And then they have to swim around here to come back up along the longitude. [12:34.580 --> 12:38.080] Uh, there are six orbits. [12:38.880 --> 12:43.660] And each of the six orbits has four satellites in that orbital track. [12:44.260 --> 12:50.640] So, the coming up with, uh, Maris, the actual table of where the satellites are, comes to each of the four of the devices. [12:51.420 --> 13:00.000] Um, there will never be more than 31 satellites turned on as operational at any time. [13:00.000 --> 13:00.700] At any given time. [13:00.940 --> 13:02.480] There can be 32. [13:03.260 --> 13:11.120] There's a pretty interesting article in GPS World Magazine a while back that's saying, they have a problem when they want to test something on the ground. [13:12.700 --> 13:22.880] So, they only have 31 operational satellites working in space at any given time, so they can save that last PRN, that pseudorandom noise number, for the one they're testing on the ground. [13:25.980 --> 13:27.980] Um, let's see. [13:29.180 --> 13:29.740] Question. [13:30.020 --> 13:31.620] I think there's about 36 up. [13:31.800 --> 13:33.640] The number of them have turned off completely. [13:34.440 --> 13:40.960] Uh, you generally need 24 in a constellation to be completely operational for 24 hour a day operation. [13:46.960 --> 13:49.340] The GPS system is a U.S. [13:49.500 --> 13:52.920] system operated by the Department of Defense for military purposes. [13:53.520 --> 13:59.040] Civilian frequencies are available for your little handheld GPS receiver and for anyone to receive. [14:00.080 --> 14:12.040] some of our friends, or not our friends, have decided that they don't want to be at the mercy of the United States for what is becoming a very important resource. [14:12.720 --> 14:16.100] Uh, the Europeans are starting to build out the Galileo system. [14:16.100 --> 14:22.500] So, they will have their own satellites, uh, and do not have to rely on, uh, the American system. [14:23.020 --> 14:26.600] Uh, the Russians, of course, have had the GLONASS system for many decades. [14:27.340 --> 14:31.940] And, uh, they're starting to realize they have to replace some of their old satellites now as well. [14:33.160 --> 14:36.500] Uh, the Chinese are also setting up a system called COMPASS. [14:37.380 --> 14:46.960] They don't want to be, uh, they don't want to, uh, be at the mercy of the Russians or the Americans. [14:48.480 --> 14:50.920] Um, and they, you know, want to have their own. [14:51.600 --> 14:53.780] Uh, this is going to be a really big thing. [14:54.200 --> 15:01.100] Uh, the primary thing that GPS is providing is PNT, uh, positioning, navigation, and timing. [15:01.820 --> 15:11.740] Um, the timing things, when you're talking about such a communication network, your switches have to talk to each other, and the timing becomes critical. [15:12.340 --> 15:13.900] And so, things like these GPS satellites. [15:14.200 --> 15:19.760] Each GPS satellite has on board an atomic clock, which is, uh, very accurate. [15:20.620 --> 15:24.860] Um, it's a whole, another bubble of topics to talk about the clocks. [15:25.640 --> 15:28.120] Uh, but, uh, they are up there. [15:28.120 --> 15:30.020] They're taking a very good track of time. [15:30.780 --> 15:39.940] And, um, they help the, uh, machines on the ground talk to each other, and help each one establish the timing on the ground. [15:40.300 --> 15:52.660] Uh, you'll notice, um, even Star Trek The Next Generation, uh, caught them coming out of work at one time, or coming out of work, and, uh, Picard told the navigator to, uh, sync up with the nearest satellite for timing. [15:52.660 --> 15:59.320] Uh, once again, in the Star Trek science, you know, somebody was on work. [15:59.900 --> 16:02.440] And, uh, it gets pretty cold. [16:03.120 --> 16:13.440] Um, at this point, you know, when it comes to what happens after you receive the data, I'm not really the expert. [16:13.720 --> 16:17.640] Um, I can give you more information about the Delta rockets and take this stuff up. [16:17.640 --> 16:23.020] Um, because I can go to my, uh, SpaceLaunchInfo.com. [16:24.040 --> 16:26.560] Um, let's see now. [16:27.140 --> 16:29.540] We've got an Atlas rocket going up next. [16:29.840 --> 16:32.840] So let me go out to my complete schedule. [16:34.380 --> 16:36.340] And, uh, let's see here. [16:37.700 --> 16:41.280] Here's a Delta IV Heavy going up to the National Council's Office. [16:42.600 --> 16:44.960] And, uh, you know, there's information out of the Delta. [16:45.440 --> 16:48.240] I mean, since you've got a Delta rocket on that Delta. [16:49.300 --> 16:52.900] Um, it's an interesting thing. [16:53.000 --> 16:57.700] Since the National Council's Office does have a public website, I'll link you right there. [17:00.140 --> 17:04.100] Um, there are some days when I'm saying this stuff up, it's just too much fun. [17:04.100 --> 17:14.660] Um, oh, and, um, another thing, too, because I've got the interest in the mobile web browser. [17:14.920 --> 17:20.100] Again, uh, SpaceLaunchInfo.com will bring you to a mobile enhanced website. [17:20.320 --> 17:26.740] Where, again, you can just pick the menu choices, press them on your telephone dial, and it will talk about the things. [17:27.680 --> 17:30.880] Um, the launch viewing mobile FAQ page. [17:31.100 --> 17:34.100] And I frequently ask questions about how to view a space launch. [17:34.800 --> 17:37.740] And, um, this has been set up... [17:38.920 --> 17:41.980] The page is one long page, the main page. [17:42.120 --> 17:49.320] The mobile version breaks out each question into its own page to, uh, put the menu requirements in mobile phones. [17:50.120 --> 17:57.400] So, um, come back here and go to SpaceLaunchInfo and FAQ page. [17:58.520 --> 18:01.460] You'll see one very long page. [18:01.620 --> 18:05.420] There's the next shuttle mission coming up, STS-133, November. [18:06.140 --> 18:14.100] Um, the next flights, you'll see STS-133, 134, and 335. [18:14.520 --> 18:15.860] That's going to be the rescue mission. [18:15.860 --> 18:22.140] I understand that the, the Senate has approved plans for a flight after 1-34. [18:22.780 --> 18:24.300] Uh, that's a whole other topic. [18:24.500 --> 18:25.460] We won't even go there now. [18:25.880 --> 18:28.300] Uh, this is the list of upcoming launches. [18:28.800 --> 18:32.100] Mostly unmanned, but I've got the manned launches in here for, um, to help people. [18:33.920 --> 18:36.080] Um, SpaceFlightNow is an interesting site. [18:36.300 --> 18:42.980] It's, uh, the one I use to research launch dates because NASA doesn't update their pages, uh, as often. [18:43.940 --> 18:45.000] Um, more questions. [18:45.000 --> 18:53.920] If you're coming to Florida to see a shuttle launch, there's only two scheduled, possibly three scheduled, uh, working on that. [18:54.700 --> 18:59.560] Uh, SpaceView Park in Titusville, Florida, is where you'll usually find me for a shuttle launch. [18:59.560 --> 19:05.940] This is the view, as seen from an FB-50, a WB-58, uh, weather, uh, the Constance plane. [19:06.200 --> 19:08.800] You'll notice the, uh, spacecraft taking off here. [19:08.980 --> 19:13.260] So there are better places in SpaceView Park to view a shuttle launch, but can you really get there? [19:14.440 --> 19:17.980] And, uh, this is all information on how to find our way to the park. [19:17.980 --> 19:21.620] Keep in mind, it's the world's longest tailgate party for the world's first game. [19:21.940 --> 19:30.860] Uh, you can, uh, see it for about four minutes during the day, uh, on a good, um, no-cloud study. [19:31.400 --> 19:42.800] At night, if it's a night watch, if you really keep track of it, you can track it for seven minutes, as it starts heading over the horizon, uh, and it's eight minutes for me to open and it should come out. [19:43.020 --> 19:45.400] So you get to see a really good long time from there. [19:46.540 --> 19:59.420] Um, this is the Mercury 7 Movement at SpaceView Park, uh, put up by the Space Walk of Fame Foundation, a group of, uh, former Space Center workers and other space cadets. [20:00.040 --> 20:01.240] I mean, other space cadets. [20:02.340 --> 20:06.300] And, uh, I help make any difference in such a sense. [20:07.220 --> 20:08.200] I mean, you can hear that very much. [20:09.900 --> 20:18.640] Um, so, for more on the topic of GPS and where things go from there, I'm going to ask for the lights to come in a little bit. [20:19.020 --> 20:26.080] And, uh, because our audience here, I'm sure, knows multiple times the topic of what happens to data after it's received. [20:26.440 --> 20:30.200] Uh, we do have microphones set up for audience participation. [20:30.200 --> 20:36.480] So if somebody has more information, they'd like to share on what happens to this information afterwards. [20:36.860 --> 20:38.300] Uh, that's going to come to the microphone. [20:41.000 --> 20:41.480] Yep. [20:42.100 --> 20:44.080] Uh, do you care to go to the microphone for the question? [20:46.800 --> 20:54.720] I've, uh, heard mention, uh, flexing GPS in war areas, in areas where the military is. [20:54.820 --> 21:06.320] If you have, if you're driving through, uh, a city with military base, do not be surprised if your GPS receiver, uh, shows you off the interstate by, uh, half a mile or so. [21:07.140 --> 21:12.380] Um, they, uh, will have transmitters, uh, called pseudo lights. [21:12.960 --> 21:14.280] Not satellite, but pseudo lights. [21:14.580 --> 21:22.660] Uh, that will try and throw off your GPS receiver so that you can't take accurate bearings to launch your own missile into satellite base pressure. [21:23.640 --> 21:24.160] Yeah. [21:24.420 --> 21:30.800] Uh, that's been fairly long for a while, but they don't really publicize it, but just don't be surprised. [21:33.540 --> 21:34.060] Okay. [21:34.540 --> 21:38.620] Well, I kind of got one thing I would like to mention while I have some attention. [21:38.620 --> 21:43.560] Uh, RTGs, radioisotope thermoelectric generators. [21:44.320 --> 21:50.880] Um, NASA will be sending up the Mars Science Laboratory next year. [21:51.360 --> 21:55.560] And it will have an RTG, the radioisotope thermoelectric generator. [21:55.560 --> 22:10.460] All these things are, are little chunks of plutonium encased in a ceramic shell stacked together so that the heat that these things naturally generate produce electricity. [22:11.600 --> 22:17.560] If there is an explosion on the launch pad, uh, it's designed to not break up. [22:18.300 --> 22:21.340] We all know about design in the real world. [22:21.340 --> 22:29.520] If it does break up, these, uh, encased plutonium objects cannot break out of the ceramic shell. [22:30.020 --> 22:45.620] And therefore, the people who are, who will be in the big suits will go out and collect these things and, uh, pick them up and take them back out to the radiation labs and put another RTG back together again. [22:46.280 --> 22:55.600] Um, the thing is that being a ham operator in Brevard County, I've attended the lectures on these RTGs, how safe they are. [22:56.460 --> 23:00.160] We had, uh, one of the radiation directors of the Department of Energy come down. [23:00.700 --> 23:06.080] She said she was bringing her kids to the launch of the Cassini, which also had an RTG. [23:06.620 --> 23:11.020] Uh, that's how safe she knew this launch would be, at least from a nuclear standpoint. [23:11.020 --> 23:15.000] And, uh, this is not an atomic pile we're sending down. [23:15.520 --> 23:20.100] Uh, the nuclear crazies just go, oh, it's a nuke! [23:20.560 --> 23:22.400] And they, they will protest. [23:22.620 --> 23:24.180] You're going to hear about the protests. [23:24.280 --> 23:25.940] I can guarantee you that for certain. [23:25.940 --> 23:28.980] But simply be aware, the information is all out here. [23:29.420 --> 23:33.360] Um, there's lots of peer-reviewed information on this stuff. [23:33.620 --> 23:34.860] They have tested this stuff. [23:35.260 --> 23:36.620] Practically through destruction. [23:37.040 --> 23:40.960] Uh, they know how good these ceramic shells are from plutonium. [23:41.120 --> 23:46.060] And the plutonium cannot kill you unless you breathe in the dust. [23:46.600 --> 23:53.180] That's what the ceramic encapsulation is designed to do, is to make sure there is no plutonium dust. [23:54.300 --> 24:03.320] So, um, just when you hear about this stuff next year, you remember there was this tall beard and burrito hippy computer, for example, I told you, it's alright. [24:03.900 --> 24:09.220] Uh, he's going to be out there with his ham radio watching for this stuff and helping to drive traffic if there's a problem. [24:09.400 --> 24:11.560] Because that's what we have to do on launch day. [24:11.760 --> 24:16.700] We're just out there among the crowd, uh, being eyes and ears for the Clark County University management people. [24:17.300 --> 24:20.400] And, uh, we're usually out there watching launch ourselves. [24:20.960 --> 24:21.720] So, you know... [24:22.440 --> 24:24.920] Forced against our will to watch a rocket plane. [24:25.180 --> 24:25.680] Oh, yeah. [24:27.340 --> 24:28.340] Too much fun. [24:28.760 --> 24:33.120] But, um, I will leave this link in to RTGs on my GPS page. [24:33.940 --> 24:34.620] Uh, let's see. [24:34.660 --> 24:35.760] I need to remind myself. [24:37.140 --> 24:42.880] Include the Orbitron software link. [24:44.400 --> 24:46.120] And, uh, any other questions? [24:46.640 --> 24:47.160] Yeah. [24:47.160 --> 24:47.480] Yeah. [24:47.680 --> 24:52.280] You spoke about the Russia system and the, um, you know, the U.S. [24:52.380 --> 24:52.660] system. [24:52.700 --> 24:53.940] They're both up right now. [24:54.120 --> 24:57.060] The other system that are being planned. [24:57.680 --> 25:07.540] Is there, um, you know, I know that out there, there are, um, survey type of receivers that use both. [25:07.540 --> 25:08.460] Right, the RGK. [25:08.460 --> 25:10.980] They're gaining really high accuracy. [25:11.380 --> 25:16.700] Are there any other ones or, or ones that are available to work off of those systems that are aware of? [25:16.780 --> 25:27.300] The RGK, the real-time head of survey receivers, uh, usually they will take them out to a survey point, sit them down for two hours, so they have a lot of data collected. [25:28.380 --> 25:36.140] They then take a reference station, a known survey point, and then watch the accuracy of the signals coming in. [25:36.380 --> 25:52.200] They will then later go back, merge that data, so that they know where the one in the field was, and can figure out, to within a few centimeters, uh, you know, the proper position, uh, for the mapping, for, uh, civil engineering, and for all that stuff. [25:52.200 --> 25:57.640] So, the other systems, again, the satellites are simply sending down the same types of information. [25:57.840 --> 26:05.020] Maybe slightly different frequencies, like different codes, but they don't have to publish codes, which want to be useful for the public to use in their handheld receivers. [26:05.320 --> 26:16.980] And if you don't get any use of the handheld receivers, uh, your budget requirements looking at the space segment, uh, becomes a whole lot harder to, uh, establish before your legislature. [26:17.920 --> 26:20.440] Is it the American, the European legislature, or the World-Russian? [26:22.380 --> 26:23.300] But not the Chinese. [26:23.920 --> 26:25.920] Well, the Chinese, they're just going to do what they're going to do. [26:26.980 --> 26:33.520] But again, if they want to sell devices that use their satellite, they have to publish the codes, publish the frequencies, and have all that different available. [26:34.260 --> 26:34.620] Morning. [26:34.980 --> 26:35.280] Morning. [26:35.500 --> 26:40.180] I heard that the American supply of plutonium will be generated extremely low. [26:40.460 --> 26:40.920] Yes, it is. [26:40.960 --> 26:45.100] What do you want to do about getting more plutonium to, I suppose, how are these sources? [26:45.100 --> 26:46.420] Good question. [26:46.620 --> 26:47.260] I don't know. [26:47.500 --> 27:01.400] I would speculate that, uh, we should probably try, uh, getting better relations with the French, who use, uh, dirtier power generation, uh, nuclear facilities than we use these days, and we may be able to buy some supplies from them. [27:01.800 --> 27:04.680] That's mere personal speculation, and I honestly don't know myself. [27:08.520 --> 27:09.000] Yes? [27:09.450 --> 27:10.160] Super presentation. [27:10.740 --> 27:13.380] I love the way you use the web rather than PowerPoint. [27:13.640 --> 27:14.450] That's fantastic. [27:14.660 --> 27:14.950] Thank you. [27:14.950 --> 27:23.680] Um, if you're a whistleblower, or if you're in, uh, intellectual property negotiations, uh, you may not want people to know where you're traveling to. [27:24.060 --> 27:36.040] And, um, you can take your cell phone out of your, uh, you can take the battery out of your cell phone or leave it at home, but there are devices that can be placed in your car surreptitiously to track your movement, and I understand that they only hang intermittently, [27:36.500 --> 27:39.880] so they can be very, very hard to locate if they're in your car. [27:40.480 --> 27:45.920] And so, again, if you're a whistleblower, you don't want whoever you're blowing whistleblower, uh, to know where you are. [27:46.180 --> 27:48.900] Is there any way you can find those, or detect them? [27:49.380 --> 27:52.960] Or, so, even if you use a rental car, it can be awkward. [27:57.520 --> 28:05.920] Um, try the mirror on the stick, the way the customs people, you know, have them at the borders, and, uh, there you go. [28:06.080 --> 28:07.460] Just like for another box with a magnet. [28:07.600 --> 28:11.660] They can be purchased on the Internet, fairly inexpensively, these systems where you can track people. [28:12.160 --> 28:14.680] And so that's, we're whistleblower's an issue. [28:15.020 --> 28:15.320] Mm-hmm. [28:15.380 --> 28:16.800] But no thoughts about it. [28:17.620 --> 28:19.420] Um, I haven't put any notes on that. [28:20.000 --> 28:23.900] Uh, do you think of... [28:24.430 --> 28:26.000] Excuse me, microphone, please? [28:28.040 --> 28:30.800] In most situations, the time window... [28:32.820 --> 28:36.680] It's gonna be limited. [28:36.980 --> 28:37.620] So it's gonna... if you look up your park it's gonna be... and you know what the underside of the park is like, it's gonna be pointless. [28:43.200 --> 28:45.780] So, start looking at the other side of the problem. [28:47.500 --> 28:49.060] This is something you don't recognize. [28:49.880 --> 28:51.880] They're really good, they're going to try and hide it. [28:55.060 --> 29:02.020] I'm just going to ask a question about the U.S. [29:03.280 --> 29:03.280] U.S. system. [29:04.300 --> 29:13.220] I had read through various, at least a year ago now, that there were discussions about the future of the U.S. and the U.S. being around. [29:14.210 --> 29:17.160] They're talking about a GPS 2.0 system that the government was starting to back. [29:18.710 --> 29:25.080] I was, at the time, I was unfamiliar with how the technology works, and now that I'm actually coming up again. [29:25.600 --> 29:26.620] So, do you speak about it? [29:28.100 --> 29:30.420] Well, they're always working on newer satellites. [29:30.680 --> 29:31.160] Let me see. [29:43.830 --> 29:48.770] Okay, NASCAR 2F2 is the next one going up. [29:49.930 --> 29:50.430] Let's see. [29:50.510 --> 29:53.410] This is the Air Force Fact Sheet on Global Positioning System. [29:54.930 --> 29:55.870] Let's see. [29:57.550 --> 29:58.050] Copy. [30:00.010 --> 30:03.250] At least I'll put this link on the talk page as well. [30:05.190 --> 30:07.390] But they are upgrading satellites. [30:08.870 --> 30:11.670] And your current receiver will still work. [30:12.450 --> 30:18.530] Newer receivers will have more features based on the new stuff going into satellites. [30:18.530 --> 30:30.470] But most of what's going into satellites is for the military, the precise measurement service, which is heavily encrypted and encoded so that people who don't like it very much can't be that precise. [30:32.290 --> 30:39.410] So, very much data technology that allows GPS to just increase the accuracy so that you have a registration. [30:39.610 --> 30:40.250] Oh, yes. [30:40.530 --> 30:46.290] Yes, it's simply so that the receivers will receive data better and know where they are. [30:46.950 --> 30:50.510] Remember, these satellites simply transmit information. [30:50.510 --> 30:54.530] They do not receive any information from your hand-told receiver. [30:55.130 --> 31:00.170] Because the whole idea behind the talk is, it's not the satellites that know where you are. [31:00.750 --> 31:06.790] It's your device that knows where you are, and it's what you do with that information, or what your device does that information afterwards. [31:06.790 --> 31:10.130] And I really don't get that much expertise in that area. [31:13.180 --> 31:13.740] Yes? [31:14.020 --> 31:17.280] I understand that the satellites have very sensitive atomic clocks. [31:17.580 --> 31:27.240] I'm wondering if you have any information as to what back-end system areas or information is operating in those clocks to be a time violation, can they reduce gravity and space? [31:27.240 --> 31:36.820] If you go to NGIS.gov, they should have more information on that because the NGIS built the atomic clocks for the satellites. [31:38.180 --> 31:40.880] The Naval Research Office probably has some as well. [31:41.100 --> 31:53.080] If you go to, oh, let's see, what's, usno.navy.mil, the U.S. [31:53.120 --> 31:55.480] Naval Observatory, which is an 80s timekeeper. [31:55.740 --> 31:56.840] I'm certainly not found. [31:57.260 --> 31:58.980] Let's try that with W's in front of it. [31:59.520 --> 32:02.600] Some of the bookmasters out there in the government. [32:11.350 --> 32:13.130] Yeah, this is a tough book. [32:13.430 --> 32:15.550] It's heavy as a rock and slow as a rock. [32:15.710 --> 32:17.590] But I find that slow is better than dead stuff. [32:17.910 --> 32:20.750] And I need something rugged enough to describe it. [32:22.630 --> 32:25.870] So, yes, out at USNO. [32:31.350 --> 32:34.070] Let's try old TIC and TAC. [32:36.370 --> 32:41.410] TIC and TAC are two servers used for their network time protocol. [32:42.130 --> 32:47.030] Um, I, let's see, astronomy, not time. [32:47.230 --> 32:47.550] There we go. [32:47.710 --> 32:48.570] Let's tab for time. [32:50.590 --> 32:52.650] The USNO master clock. [32:53.770 --> 32:54.450] GPS. [32:55.070 --> 33:00.430] So there's going to be a link for, uh, Navy and military GPS constellation information. [33:00.930 --> 33:02.990] GPS data and information files. [33:03.230 --> 33:04.750] All this information is out there. [33:05.530 --> 33:10.710] So, let me, so, you know, control C to copy and control E to paste. [33:10.890 --> 33:13.690] And there's a very sophisticated piece of software called Notepad. [33:14.190 --> 33:18.830] It is my primary, um, software for my web pages as well. [33:20.110 --> 33:20.210] Um. [33:22.510 --> 33:22.770] John. [33:23.090 --> 33:23.190] Good morning. [33:23.190 --> 33:24.610] I have two questions. [33:24.810 --> 33:31.110] The first question was the International Space Station and the ham radio operators, you can actually have a call sign. [33:31.310 --> 33:33.730] And were they actually acting kind of verbally? [33:33.970 --> 33:36.850] Or were they acting, like, back in as part of over each year? [33:37.750 --> 33:42.270] Okay, um, the, most of the astronauts do have a ham radio license. [33:42.270 --> 33:50.410] And on very rare occasions, it's become very useful when, uh, the communications link through the Tito system, the Tito relay satellite, has gone out. [33:50.730 --> 33:54.130] And they've actually used the ham radio to communicate from that to the ground. [33:54.250 --> 33:54.730] It's gone out. [33:54.850 --> 33:55.750] They'll just go reboot it. [33:56.550 --> 33:59.970] And, uh, but, uh, they don't always talk on the air. [34:00.530 --> 34:05.110] Every once in a while, some hams, John Blaha was a really good guy on the ham radio. [34:05.270 --> 34:08.070] I, I would listen on my hand and tell them, I'm just going to talk to the ground. [34:08.930 --> 34:10.910] It's just wonderful to hear them. [34:10.910 --> 34:14.970] Um, but not that many of the guys use that as their primary recreation. [34:15.410 --> 34:17.270] Yeah, we probably could mostly use primary recreation. [34:17.550 --> 34:17.890] Yeah. [34:18.350 --> 34:22.490] Uh, also, uh, there's a packet radio repeater, called Digipeter, on the board. [34:22.650 --> 34:25.590] So the guys on the ground can send data up through the satellite. [34:26.030 --> 34:34.190] That A-R-I-S-S dot net page that I showed you earlier, was where hands on the ground had sent APRS formatted packets with the Amtropag recording system. [34:34.450 --> 34:36.890] That's why it showed maps of where these guys were. [34:37.090 --> 34:37.790] What's up there? [34:37.790 --> 34:40.910] Uh, it's 1200 baud, 1.2k. [34:41.150 --> 34:42.790] And you know, your phone numbers these days are 56k. [34:43.590 --> 34:43.690] Yeah, yeah. [34:43.950 --> 34:45.810] So 1.2k is really slow. [34:46.110 --> 34:48.810] But packet radio is not the information superhighway. [34:48.990 --> 34:51.050] I consider it the information superbicycle pack. [34:51.970 --> 34:53.670] And boy, should you go off-road. [34:54.050 --> 35:00.930] My other question relates to relative, relative statistic effects, time dilation, in regard to accuracy. [35:01.170 --> 35:04.470] Because as I'm, I recall, these satellites have very accurate changes. [35:04.930 --> 35:05.570] Very accurate. [35:05.630 --> 35:08.450] Relativistic effects are causing some kind of accuracy. [35:09.010 --> 35:10.030] I'm sure there are. [35:10.030 --> 35:19.030] I would refer you to these pages at NIST, N-I-S-T, dot gov, or at the U.S. [35:19.150 --> 35:19.670] I know the U.S. [35:19.690 --> 35:23.990] Naval Observatory, where these guys are really more up on time dilation than I am. [35:26.690 --> 35:29.490] These topics lead off into so many different areas. [35:29.650 --> 35:31.550] Coming in for all of them is a real problem. [35:31.770 --> 35:33.910] But the information is out there. [35:35.410 --> 35:38.070] And just dig around, you'll find some links. [35:39.030 --> 35:41.850] You were looking for something earlier on to get off the AIS. [35:42.110 --> 35:43.710] Did you go to shipfinder.com? [35:44.050 --> 35:44.390] I don't know. [35:44.450 --> 35:45.750] You can get lots of ships. [35:45.750 --> 35:45.930] You can get... [35:45.990 --> 35:46.470] I'm sure there is a really good invention on the board. [35:48.110 --> 36:01.750] In terms of the relative specifics of GPS satellites, there are papers out describing the recent satellite 2Rs, and on dilation effects of a hundred and more accurate. [36:03.770 --> 36:07.490] New relative smacks will generally affect example. [36:08.390 --> 36:09.370] Very good, thank you. [36:10.050 --> 36:14.810] This is a 48-page document all about... [36:15.870 --> 36:17.810] Could you come to my phone, please, sir? [36:25.210 --> 36:29.050] I think Queen Elizabeth is no longer afloat, but we'll try its call sign. [36:30.090 --> 36:32.910] I also noticed I'm using flash blocker on my Firefox. [36:33.790 --> 36:40.930] There is a 48-page document describing the effects of special engineering activity in the clocks. [36:40.930 --> 36:45.390] The clocks on the satellites have seasonally video clocks. [36:45.670 --> 36:49.430] They keep precision of about one second in 300 years. [36:50.570 --> 36:56.910] I would be to be a doctor which appears on the moment in the clocks after a thousand hours. [36:58.150 --> 36:59.210] Very good, thank you. [37:05.670 --> 37:06.870] Do you know the call sign? [37:07.530 --> 37:09.950] Okay, so which is the name of the ship? [37:37.800 --> 37:39.900] Okay, looks like it's off the coast of France just now. [37:49.600 --> 37:49.960] Okay. [37:49.960 --> 37:50.640] Any questions? [37:56.750 --> 37:57.770] Okay, close it up then. [37:58.150 --> 37:58.470] Thank you.