[00:23.280 --> 00:24.600]  Alright, we are going to get started.
[00:25.100 --> 00:26.300]  Just a couple of quick announcements.
[00:26.680 --> 00:29.700]  All of these panels are being recorded and burned to DVD.
[00:30.240 --> 00:35.220]  You can buy them for $10 shortly after the panel.
[00:35.400 --> 00:37.760]  Right back with the t-shirts and the 2600 gears.
[00:38.480 --> 00:42.800]  I highly recommend you pick one up so we break even.
[00:45.900 --> 00:52.020]  On that note, these conferences are a very positive vibe.
[00:52.740 --> 00:58.340]  But there are always one or two people that try to make it un-positive.
[00:58.660 --> 01:07.000]  If you see anybody doing something that they shouldn't be, please find security or number two type person.
[01:07.840 --> 01:15.460]  Because there are folks that seem to enjoy coming to these events just so they can steal laptops and ham radios and things like that.
[01:15.620 --> 01:17.840]  And that's definitely not what this community is about.
[01:17.840 --> 01:20.560]  So, to the other 99% of you, thank you.
[01:20.760 --> 01:22.200]  And to the 1%, you suck.
[01:28.190 --> 01:36.110]  This is Citizen Engineer, consumer electronics hacking and open source software with Philip Torrone, who is number 106.
[01:36.750 --> 01:38.090]  He's very proud of his number.
[01:38.930 --> 01:40.950]  And Lady Ada, who is number 80.
[01:43.370 --> 01:43.910]  Thank you.
[01:43.910 --> 01:43.930]  Thank you.
[01:43.930 --> 01:45.010]  Make sure you get right up on the mics.
[01:45.770 --> 01:46.030]  Okay.
[01:47.470 --> 01:47.710]  All right.
[01:48.110 --> 01:48.230]  Yeah.
[01:48.330 --> 01:48.850]  Citizen Engineer.
[01:49.150 --> 01:52.870]  We're going to show you how to make a taser so when you see people doing bad things, you can shock them.
[01:55.690 --> 01:56.050]  Well...
[01:56.050 --> 01:57.090]  For only $5.
[01:57.610 --> 01:57.790]  Yeah.
[01:57.810 --> 01:58.390]  It's just cheap.
[01:58.650 --> 01:58.750]  Yeah.
[01:58.850 --> 01:59.070]  Maybe.
[02:00.450 --> 02:02.950]  So, I'm Phil Torrone, senior editor of Make Magazine.
[02:03.110 --> 02:04.010]  Any of you guys see Make?
[02:04.370 --> 02:04.730]  A little magazine?
[02:05.450 --> 02:05.930]  All right.
[02:06.030 --> 02:06.390]  Yay.
[02:06.770 --> 02:06.990]  Good.
[02:07.410 --> 02:08.250]  Got some subscribers.
[02:08.510 --> 02:10.530]  We'll be selling some makes down at the vendor area later.
[02:10.590 --> 02:11.530]  Hopefully, we can break even, too.
[02:11.570 --> 02:12.050]  We'll give some away.
[02:12.250 --> 02:12.930]  Yeah, we'll give some away.
[02:12.950 --> 02:13.830]  We're going to give some away, too.
[02:14.090 --> 02:14.570]  Q&A.
[02:15.010 --> 02:27.590]  And in the past, I worked with 2600 on the Free Kevin stuff, and then I also founded Hackaday, a site with a collection of a lot of things that people build in their basements, homes, and other places.
[02:28.370 --> 02:29.230]  I'm Lady Ada.
[02:29.470 --> 02:34.050]  I'm currently an R&D fellow at EyeBeam, which is a new media gallery actually here in New York.
[02:34.290 --> 02:35.230]  So, I live here now.
[02:35.450 --> 02:39.470]  And I basically feed Google by making electronic projects and putting them online.
[02:39.710 --> 02:43.270]  And, you know, all of them are open source, and there's kits, so people build them.
[02:43.350 --> 02:50.930]  So, anything that I present here that you like, you can get full documentation on LadyAda.net, or you can buy some kits at Adafruit.com.
[02:51.050 --> 02:52.090]  So, I can also break even.
[02:53.130 --> 02:53.490]  Yeah.
[02:53.630 --> 02:54.490]  It's all about breaking even today.
[02:55.610 --> 02:59.650]  So, citizen engineer, it's kind of a term that gets tossed around a little bit.
[02:59.790 --> 03:02.770]  I think open source hardware might be a new term for a lot of folks out there.
[03:02.870 --> 03:08.590]  I mean, everyone knows what open source software is and the benefits and how it's kind of started.
[03:09.090 --> 03:13.130]  And people started building things on top of things and sharing and documenting.
[03:13.550 --> 03:14.890]  But citizen engineer is a little bit different.
[03:15.030 --> 03:19.650]  And what I like to do, I carry around a set of slides with me when I present at conferences.
[03:19.650 --> 03:22.490]  And, like, lately I've been presenting at, like, knitting conferences, which is bizarre.
[03:22.630 --> 03:29.630]  But I carry around these slides of kind of a look back in history when everyone had to build stuff.
[03:30.030 --> 03:31.170]  There wasn't distribution.
[03:31.470 --> 03:33.130]  There wasn't the type of things that we have now.
[03:33.150 --> 03:34.450]  You couldn't just, like, order something on Amazon.
[03:34.470 --> 03:37.950]  If you had a TV or a radio or a car, you kind of had to fix it.
[03:38.270 --> 03:39.810]  So, I collect these old covers.
[03:40.270 --> 03:42.570]  This is from Popular Mechanics, 1961.
[03:42.910 --> 03:45.190]  How to build this safe sidewalk car for your kids.
[03:45.350 --> 03:46.510]  That's really unsafe, actually.
[03:46.710 --> 03:47.070]  It's...
[03:47.610 --> 03:47.970]  Yeah.
[03:48.250 --> 03:49.930]  So, that's lead-acid batteries.
[03:50.090 --> 03:50.750]  It's Little Timmy.
[03:50.910 --> 03:53.110]  Like, that's a big problem waiting to happen.
[03:53.290 --> 03:54.350]  They're on the brink of hell.
[03:54.850 --> 03:55.210]  Yeah.
[03:56.070 --> 03:57.070]  Scientists on the brink of hell.
[03:57.130 --> 03:57.670]  That's still true.
[03:58.690 --> 04:00.330]  And make your own printed circuit boards.
[04:00.410 --> 04:01.030]  You know, you can still do that.
[04:01.170 --> 04:03.690]  But this is kind of the type of things that people used to build.
[04:03.750 --> 04:04.970]  The plans were shared.
[04:05.310 --> 04:10.410]  These magazines, Popular Mechanics, Popular Science, Modern Mechanics, they were the most popular magazines for a really long time.
[04:10.570 --> 04:11.730]  Like, millions of copies.
[04:11.830 --> 04:13.170]  This is what everyone read.
[04:13.330 --> 04:15.150]  And, like, things have changed a lot since then.
[04:15.210 --> 04:16.990]  Now, like, People Magazine and other things.
[04:17.070 --> 04:17.710]  Oh, this is a good one.
[04:17.970 --> 04:19.690]  Escape Shoes can cut our airline death toll.
[04:20.870 --> 04:21.590]  This is what we need.
[04:21.730 --> 04:22.650]  And if you look really...
[04:22.650 --> 04:24.250]  You can't really see it on here, but that guy is like...
[04:24.250 --> 04:25.070]  Like, everyone's happy.
[04:25.230 --> 04:26.350]  And they're all like, yay, we did it.
[04:27.810 --> 04:31.590]  So, you know, this might be a good way to fight, like, future terrorism.
[04:32.210 --> 04:33.030]  To have eject seats.
[04:34.010 --> 04:35.230]  Suitcase-sized power cycle.
[04:35.390 --> 04:36.410]  So, complete plans.
[04:37.030 --> 04:39.130]  How to do a safe job of rewiring your house.
[04:39.750 --> 04:40.850]  And, like, we have a lot of projects.
[04:40.990 --> 04:41.710]  And, like, we're...
[04:41.710 --> 04:44.450]  Like, I don't know if it's going to last forever, but we show people how to wire stuff.
[04:44.470 --> 04:46.550]  And, like, everyone says, like, oh, are you worried about getting sued?
[04:47.330 --> 04:48.270]  You know, hopefully...
[04:48.270 --> 04:49.850]  Like, one day, maybe something happens.
[04:49.970 --> 04:54.850]  But, hopefully, we can always refer back to this and say, like, wow, people actually used to do things like rewire their home.
[04:54.970 --> 04:55.330]  It's crazy.
[04:56.830 --> 04:58.410]  Can criminals beat the lie detectors?
[05:00.310 --> 05:00.750]  They could.
[05:01.910 --> 05:04.070]  This is my favorite one that I love showing around.
[05:04.070 --> 05:07.530]  It's a motorless glider copter you can build yourself and tow with your car.
[05:09.510 --> 05:09.910]  Like...
[05:11.050 --> 05:12.250]  And, like, that's the...
[05:12.250 --> 05:14.250]  You know, like, Timmy's down there waving to his dad.
[05:14.450 --> 05:16.450]  Like, this is such a bad idea.
[05:17.690 --> 05:18.490]  But, uh...
[05:18.490 --> 05:20.310]  But people actually used to build these.
[05:20.430 --> 05:20.990]  Like, this is...
[05:20.990 --> 05:22.550]  We had a different type of imagination.
[05:22.550 --> 05:23.310]  We're going to the moon.
[05:23.570 --> 05:25.150]  You know, there's a big space race going on.
[05:25.290 --> 05:26.610]  This is what we wanted to build.
[05:27.190 --> 05:31.670]  Uh, I'm from Seattle, and, uh, we still haven't got a monorail, so it's kind of a letdown.
[05:32.050 --> 05:34.210]  Uh, but things like how to revive your own TV picture tubes.
[05:34.250 --> 05:35.250]  What to do when your furnace quits.
[05:35.330 --> 05:38.010]  Like, this is what people thought technology meant.
[05:38.170 --> 05:38.650]  Like, what...
[05:38.650 --> 05:39.470]  What can you do with it?
[05:39.550 --> 05:41.050]  Over millions of copies of this issue.
[05:41.130 --> 05:42.110]  They're very proud of this.
[05:42.690 --> 05:43.690]  Um, another one.
[05:44.070 --> 05:45.490]  A garage door opener for $35.
[05:45.790 --> 05:46.310]  This is a fun one.
[05:46.970 --> 05:52.530]  A lot of you probably heard of the case of the garage door opener company stopping people from making their own garage door openers because the...
[05:52.530 --> 05:53.850]  The codes were copyrighted.
[05:53.950 --> 05:54.570]  It's like, what?
[05:54.830 --> 05:55.850]  You know, this is...
[05:55.850 --> 05:57.190]  Uh, 1963.
[05:57.350 --> 05:58.070]  They'd laugh at you.
[05:58.170 --> 05:58.770]  They'd go, what are you talking about?
[05:58.770 --> 06:00.510]  Um, this is the...
[06:00.510 --> 06:01.530]  One of the world's safest cars.
[06:01.530 --> 06:02.950]  It's just because no one bought it, I think.
[06:03.090 --> 06:03.690]  And it's really ugly.
[06:04.510 --> 06:06.390]  But, you know, like, it's safe, though.
[06:07.590 --> 06:11.050]  And, uh, and I'm gonna talk about another trampoline project later, but, uh, here...
[06:11.050 --> 06:12.450]  Two free blueprints for trampolines.
[06:12.590 --> 06:14.190]  Like, trampolines now, like, they're...
[06:14.190 --> 06:15.670]  They're lawsuits ready to...
[06:15.670 --> 06:17.450]  Ready to happen in our nanny nation.
[06:17.690 --> 06:19.290]  But, uh, you know, people used to build these things.
[06:19.550 --> 06:21.090]  Uh, 3D carving duplicated for $10.
[06:21.450 --> 06:22.810]  Uh, image slide projectors.
[06:23.250 --> 06:23.950]  Backyard plans.
[06:24.210 --> 06:26.750]  Uh, and also bounce tumbling in six basic steps.
[06:27.550 --> 06:28.290]  What's going on there?
[06:28.610 --> 06:30.250]  Uh, you could build this rowmobile.
[06:32.250 --> 06:34.850]  I can take it down this crazy path or something.
[06:35.130 --> 06:35.730]  Latest invention.
[06:35.990 --> 06:36.310]  Aeromechanics.
[06:36.410 --> 06:36.930]  Shop kinks.
[06:37.010 --> 06:38.610]  They used to call things kinks a long time ago.
[06:39.030 --> 06:39.410]  It's kind of funny.
[06:39.570 --> 06:40.190]  Radio kinks.
[06:40.790 --> 06:41.430]  Shop kinks.
[06:41.870 --> 06:42.910]  Uh, make your own one-man sub.
[06:45.910 --> 06:46.190]  Yeah.
[06:47.410 --> 06:47.690]  Maybe.
[06:49.090 --> 06:50.510]  And, uh, this is, uh, this is a good one.
[06:50.570 --> 06:54.410]  You can make a little radio, so you can listen to, uh, radio while you fly on planes.
[06:55.750 --> 06:56.830]  Now you really can't do that.
[06:57.730 --> 06:58.610]  And a Geiger gun.
[06:58.730 --> 07:00.910]  So if you wanted to see how much radiation was around.
[07:01.370 --> 07:02.650]  Um, these are some other books I collect.
[07:02.690 --> 07:03.470]  The Boy Mechanic.
[07:03.650 --> 07:04.890]  700 things for boys to do.
[07:04.990 --> 07:06.070]  It was, like, a really popular thing.
[07:06.170 --> 07:07.810]  Like, only boys build projects, but that's not true.
[07:08.350 --> 07:08.670]  Uh, the...
[07:08.670 --> 07:09.750]  This is a really good book.
[07:09.750 --> 07:19.570]  Uh, there was a time where all the chemical formulas for, like, Coca-Cola and anything that you could buy, like, perfumes, they would have this, uh, this documentation on how to actually make it yourself.
[07:19.590 --> 07:21.370]  You could still find, like, copies of this book.
[07:21.470 --> 07:25.550]  And, uh, BitTorrent is a wonderful place to find, um, these really old books right now, too.
[07:26.110 --> 07:26.690]  Foxfire book.
[07:26.850 --> 07:27.490]  Uh, these are...
[07:27.910 --> 07:30.970]  There's a lot of books that are pseudo-copyright, or not really.
[07:31.530 --> 07:36.530]  Uh, Log Cabin Building, uh, Snake Lore, Faith Healing Moonshine.
[07:36.650 --> 07:37.910]  Like, a lot of people used to build all this stuff.
[07:37.910 --> 07:39.130]  There's a Foxfire book series.
[07:39.610 --> 07:41.730]  Uh, just, you know, hit BitTorrent and find some of these.
[07:41.950 --> 07:43.050]  Forgotten Arts and Crafts.
[07:43.850 --> 07:44.570]  Things to make.
[07:44.870 --> 07:46.190]  And then we hit some dark times.
[07:46.390 --> 07:47.630]  Like, I'm not exactly sure.
[07:47.770 --> 07:49.830]  I think, uh, after World War II, and we...
[07:49.830 --> 07:51.070]  There was a lot of mass production.
[07:51.650 --> 07:54.170]  Uh, certainly electronics, uh, from other countries hit.
[07:54.270 --> 07:58.330]  But, uh, you know, the 80s and 90s, like, everyone kind of stopped buying stuff for a while.
[07:58.530 --> 07:59.150]  And it...
[07:59.150 --> 08:05.370]  It really hurt, I think, everything that we started the nation, uh, as the hackers and tinkers.
[08:05.530 --> 08:06.730]  Like, Benjamin Franklin wasn't a...
[08:06.730 --> 08:08.270]  He was a tinkerer.
[08:08.390 --> 08:09.470]  Like, and he's on money.
[08:10.070 --> 08:10.430]  So...
[08:11.190 --> 08:12.430]  Those were some dark times.
[08:12.610 --> 08:12.970]  And...
[08:12.970 --> 08:13.870]  But things started to change.
[08:14.010 --> 08:22.510]  And now, uh, especially when you look at some of the sessions here, uh, it looks like things that are in the physical world are starting to become, uh, the...
[08:22.510 --> 08:25.510]  The code that you can use for the stuff you make.
[08:25.610 --> 08:25.790]  And...
[08:25.790 --> 08:28.950]  And by that, I mean, if you look at, like, the AM radio, it's kind of a neat example.
[08:29.170 --> 08:30.250]  Like, you built this, but the...
[08:30.250 --> 08:33.110]  The actual pieces inside of it were the code that ran on it.
[08:33.110 --> 08:35.010]  And there's other examples out there.
[08:35.150 --> 08:41.070]  And I think one of the things that happened, uh, in the 30s and 40s and 50s, uh, television came along later.
[08:41.250 --> 08:44.290]  But the AM radio was a really neat example of everyone built one.
[08:44.370 --> 08:44.990]  Everyone had one.
[08:45.090 --> 08:46.050]  Everyone did something with it.
[08:46.130 --> 08:47.450]  There was big cabinets around it.
[08:47.490 --> 08:48.690]  Everyone shared it in some way.
[08:48.690 --> 08:50.350]  And we have something happening right now.
[08:50.490 --> 08:54.230]  And there's, like, little pieces of evidence that things are... are changing.
[08:54.370 --> 08:55.810]  And the MP3 player is a good example.
[08:55.990 --> 08:57.770]  I mean, how many people have, like, an MP3 player?
[08:57.950 --> 08:58.830]  Like, absolutely everybody.
[08:58.990 --> 08:59.110]  Yeah.
[08:59.550 --> 09:00.430]  So it's kind of like...
[09:00.430 --> 09:03.470]  And although you didn't build it, it is kind of like our transistor radio.
[09:03.530 --> 09:04.390]  Because there are just so many of them.
[09:04.510 --> 09:06.130]  So we're starting to see all sorts of weird projects.
[09:06.250 --> 09:08.170]  This is, uh, the PES MP3 player.
[09:08.450 --> 09:13.230]  Uh, this guy actually worked with PES and, uh, decided to build his own MP3 player.
[09:13.410 --> 09:14.930]  And it's a PES MP3 player.
[09:15.030 --> 09:17.730]  He licensed it out, got it, selling it, and you can get it online.
[09:17.730 --> 09:19.150]  And he documented the whole process.
[09:19.270 --> 09:21.590]  He tried to open source parts of it, but he... he couldn't.
[09:21.730 --> 09:23.410]  Uh, this is the MP3 card reader.
[09:23.530 --> 09:24.930]  This is a $9 MP3 player.
[09:25.030 --> 09:25.930]  It's actually even less than that.
[09:26.030 --> 09:26.990]  It's, like, $5 now.
[09:27.250 --> 09:29.110]  And you can put it into other projects.
[09:29.190 --> 09:29.950]  So it's almost cheap.
[09:30.290 --> 09:31.350]  Um, this is my iPod collection.
[09:31.410 --> 09:34.910]  I was doing some iPod firmware tests a little while ago.
[09:35.370 --> 09:36.970]  Um, these are some weird accessories.
[09:37.230 --> 09:43.190]  And these are, you know, people are putting Linux on, uh, iPods, and each generation gets better of the type of things that you can do.
[09:43.330 --> 09:45.550]  So the... the actual hardware itself is interesting.
[09:45.630 --> 09:49.150]  But the type of things that people are doing on top of it are... are even more interesting.
[09:49.350 --> 09:51.190]  One example is I wanted to do audio recordings.
[09:51.390 --> 09:56.530]  And so I put iPod Linux on my iPod, and I was able to run around and do high-quality auto recording.
[09:56.690 --> 09:58.710]  The... the hardware was disabled shipping.
[09:59.170 --> 10:02.990]  And you can put iPod Linux on there, and then do a higher-quality audio recording.
[10:03.110 --> 10:05.270]  And then you can also record your phone calls with it, which is good.
[10:05.850 --> 10:08.170]  Um, people started to play around with the graphics.
[10:08.450 --> 10:11.810]  So this is, uh, the... the boring do not connect blinking thing.
[10:11.810 --> 10:17.810]  And I use projects like this to get, kind of, the younger kids into electronics and... and into different pieces of technology.
[10:17.830 --> 10:20.730]  Because they... they really don't know how to build stuff.
[10:20.850 --> 10:22.050]  It's not something that's taught.
[10:22.410 --> 10:27.390]  And, you know, maybe there's a... there's a few rare examples of kids that are... are doing something with, uh, electronics.
[10:27.730 --> 10:29.690]  But, uh, everyone wants to do something custom.
[10:29.770 --> 10:30.690]  They want to customize it.
[10:30.750 --> 10:33.150]  And once you customize something, it's... it's more important to you.
[10:33.150 --> 10:38.670]  Uh, and so we released a bunch of how-to's on, uh, how to... on how to change your firmware, yeah.
[10:39.630 --> 10:41.030]  And, um, I'll mention this a few times.
[10:41.110 --> 10:43.730]  That every single slide that you see here has a how-to behind it.
[10:43.870 --> 10:45.070]  And we're giving away all these how-to's.
[10:45.170 --> 10:48.230]  So at the end of the presentation, uh, I'll give you the way to download all these.
[10:48.330 --> 10:51.550]  So if you want to change your firmware, if you want to build any of these things, all these how-to's are out there.
[10:51.610 --> 10:52.490]  That's a... that's a fun one.
[10:52.970 --> 10:53.950]  Um, you know, other things.
[10:54.190 --> 10:59.430]  Uh, the inventor of TV-B-Gone is here, and there's a presentation tomorrow about subversive technologies.
[10:59.890 --> 11:01.650]  And, uh, there's a ton of fun projects with that, too.
[11:01.650 --> 11:09.210]  So I recorded the-the IR sound that came from the TV-B-Gone, and then I put it in my iPod, and then I have a sound-to-IR converter, and then it loops constantly.
[11:09.230 --> 11:11.310]  So then I'd walk around Best Buy, or...
[11:12.210 --> 11:14.070]  Or-or so I-or maybe someone did.
[11:14.410 --> 11:17.390]  Uh, and, uh, like CES is a good place to go to, because there's lots of TVs.
[11:17.510 --> 11:18.970]  It just loops and turns off all the TVs.
[11:19.490 --> 11:20.650]  Um, even the boxes.
[11:20.810 --> 11:24.690]  So, lat-one of the stats I used to throw around, there's-there was 8 million iPods, like, the first year.
[11:24.750 --> 11:26.170]  Now there's 8 million iPods a quarter.
[11:26.490 --> 11:30.590]  And, like, no one talks about these boxes, or even, like, what are people doing these?
[11:30.590 --> 11:32.190]  So I made an iPod box robot.
[11:32.490 --> 11:37.030]  So with old-I-discarded iPods, you can make your own little robot, and, uh, he moves and stuff.
[11:37.610 --> 11:43.330]  Um, another fun thing that happened was, uh, as technologies retire, and re-use is a theme in this.
[11:43.450 --> 11:45.890]  This is a, uh, I-this is a Walkman iPod case.
[11:46.330 --> 11:47.670]  Um, funny story behind this.
[11:47.830 --> 11:48.990]  Sony sued this guy.
[11:49.430 --> 11:53.810]  Uh, they-they sent him a cease and desist, because they said, you know, you're-you're really, uh, confusing everyone.
[11:55.550 --> 11:55.910]  Um...
[11:55.910 --> 11:59.370]  We don't want people to think we make crappy players that are really big that no one buys.
[12:01.190 --> 12:03.610]  Well, Sony makes crappy players that no one buys.
[12:04.570 --> 12:04.930]  Um...
[12:04.930 --> 12:06.730]  So the way around this is we-there's a how-to.
[12:06.970 --> 12:10.890]  So you can post how-to's, you just can't sell these as, um, products anymore.
[12:11.110 --> 12:13.790]  So that's a fun one, and, you know, the-the-it's a good project case.
[12:14.310 --> 12:14.490]  Anyways.
[12:15.150 --> 12:20.550]  Um, old mice, like, everyone has, like, drawerfuls of old mice, and, you know, what do you do with these?
[12:20.650 --> 12:24.250]  Well, this is a, uh, an IBM mouse, uh, FM transmitter.
[12:24.590 --> 12:26.330]  So, you know, with your shuffle, plug it in.
[12:26.970 --> 12:29.370]  Uh, other creative things that are happening.
[12:29.610 --> 12:30.370]  Uh, charging solutions.
[12:30.550 --> 12:34.090]  This is one of those, uh, hand-crank flashlights that you can charge.
[12:34.310 --> 12:35.830]  And that was round one.
[12:35.950 --> 12:42.810]  So, okay, uh, let's get the- let-let's show how to modify this existing piece of technology, uh, with the crank, and then charge an iPod.
[12:42.910 --> 12:43.630]  But wait, there's more.
[12:43.710 --> 12:45.070]  Oh, we'll-we'll put it on a bike.
[12:45.070 --> 12:49.090]  Uh, so now the guy pedals around and recharges his iPod.
[12:49.150 --> 12:52.710]  Again, every-everything's documented, and there's lots of neat improvements on this.
[12:53.030 --> 12:53.990]  Um, this is one that I had.
[12:54.170 --> 12:55.230]  Um, it takes forever, though.
[12:55.390 --> 12:56.850]  It's like four-it takes, like, 14 days.
[12:57.430 --> 13:04.410]  But, uh, if, uh, if-if-if our world political problems continue, I'll have, like, the last way to listen to music.
[13:04.810 --> 13:12.650]  Um, and, uh, even things that aren't quite, uh, meant to-to be tinkered with, you know, right away.
[13:12.650 --> 13:14.750]  So the iTrip is, uh, FM transmitter.
[13:15.030 --> 13:18.310]  And one of the first things people said, oh, you know, I wish the range was a little bit better.
[13:18.490 --> 13:20.390]  So we have a how-to on how to crack it open.
[13:20.530 --> 13:23.350]  You just wrap wire around the little antenna, you get more range.
[13:23.670 --> 13:30.650]  Uh, fun things you can do if you go to a gym, where they, uh, broadcast, uh, uh, the TVs over FM, so people can listen.
[13:30.930 --> 13:34.910]  Uh, I went to one, and there was, like, Fox News, so I decided to just play my own stuff, and, you know.
[13:37.330 --> 13:37.990]  It's kind of fun.
[13:38.390 --> 13:39.490]  Uh, or you can go the other way.
[13:39.650 --> 13:41.830]  And, uh, this is a megaphone helmet hat.
[13:43.110 --> 13:49.470]  And, uh, you can plug in your iPod, and just, uh, walk around, or any music player.
[13:51.290 --> 13:54.750]  Uh, so what's going on here with all this stuff, and why is this actually happening?
[13:55.030 --> 13:56.530]  Uh, this is an unfortunate slide.
[13:57.010 --> 13:59.350]  Uh, this is, oh, these are all these crazy Web 2.0 companies.
[13:59.450 --> 14:06.710]  And everyone, XML and RSS, and, like, all these, like, everything ends with R, or it's, like, some weird name, and, like, all these companies are gonna be gone next year.
[14:06.710 --> 14:13.050]  But, uh, the good news is, uh, a lot of the things that they're doing are, are helping sharing the information.
[14:13.150 --> 14:13.830]  We've got wikis.
[14:13.950 --> 14:14.610]  We've got Flickr.
[14:15.050 --> 14:18.650]  Um, you know, Flickr's actually one of the most interesting places to share your how-tos right now.
[14:18.850 --> 14:21.870]  And it's only because it's like a cookbook, uh, the way it's built.
[14:22.030 --> 14:23.230]  Uh, we have new devices.
[14:23.590 --> 14:25.530]  There's cheap hardware, easy access to documentation.
[14:26.050 --> 14:36.630]  The way that, uh, things get sent out there, like, right away, uh, there's, when a recipe is interesting and people know about it, we all probably saw the Mentos and Diet Coke, uh, thing.
[14:36.750 --> 14:38.330]  Like, every, so, here's a fun how-to, guys.
[14:38.490 --> 14:41.490]  Take Diet Coke, put a thing of Mentos in it, and it explodes.
[14:41.690 --> 14:41.930]  Yay!
[14:42.450 --> 14:42.830]  Easy.
[14:43.530 --> 14:45.730]  Um, Mentos decided to do a contest about it.
[14:45.950 --> 14:48.590]  Uh, Coke decided it was freaky and they're scared.
[14:48.870 --> 14:49.810]  Mentos went the other way.
[14:49.990 --> 14:51.570]  And they're like, no, send us your videos.
[14:52.450 --> 14:54.630]  So, you know, that instantly went up on YouTube.
[14:54.850 --> 14:55.870]  It instantly went around the web.
[14:56.050 --> 14:57.150]  So, it's getting interesting.
[14:57.630 --> 14:58.730]  There's things that are happening.
[14:59.230 --> 15:00.790]  Uh, and the other thing, we have a ton of shit.
[15:00.930 --> 15:01.870]  Like, we have so much stuff.
[15:02.030 --> 15:03.110]  Like, we have so many cell phones.
[15:03.310 --> 15:07.190]  This is, uh, this is an artist who takes photos of cell phones that people toss.
[15:07.350 --> 15:10.410]  And, yeah, you can recycle them and everything, but, like, what can you do with this old hardware?
[15:10.510 --> 15:11.590]  Like, that's crazy.
[15:12.070 --> 15:13.350]  Um, and we're getting mad.
[15:13.550 --> 15:19.650]  Um, one of the things that happens is, you know, consumers, customers, or whatever you want to call them, are starting to fight back.
[15:19.970 --> 15:23.290]  What's been going on the web recently, you know, the AOL phone calls.
[15:23.410 --> 15:24.530]  You know, someone trying to cancel their account.
[15:24.670 --> 15:26.190]  There's a site devoted to customers.
[15:26.190 --> 15:28.650]  You know, people not happy with the way they're buying things.
[15:28.810 --> 15:29.630]  We started this thing.
[15:29.750 --> 15:31.670]  Well, if you can't open something, you don't own it.
[15:36.110 --> 15:37.290]  So, here's the Bill of Rights.
[15:37.590 --> 15:39.230]  So, we started, like, sending this to companies.
[15:39.450 --> 15:40.390]  Like, I just send this randomly.
[15:40.610 --> 15:42.410]  And, like, so, like, they don't really respond.
[15:43.090 --> 15:45.390]  But, uh, like, here's some of the things.
[15:45.630 --> 15:46.530]  So, special tools.
[15:46.730 --> 15:48.870]  Like, why do I need to buy a special tool to open my thing?
[15:48.990 --> 15:51.510]  Like, okay, like, maybe once in a while it'll make sense.
[15:51.650 --> 15:55.950]  But don't, don't just make a special tool that I have to buy because I want to open up something.
[15:56.230 --> 15:56.790]  Like, Torx is okay.
[15:56.950 --> 15:58.330]  But, like, don't ever do tamper-proof.
[15:58.790 --> 16:04.710]  Um, some things, like, if something can be replaced, make it replace, like, you know, the power adapter, the power things that go in those always go on laptops.
[16:05.230 --> 16:06.830]  Um, laptop power supplies.
[16:06.970 --> 16:08.350]  Wouldn't it be great if they all worked the same?
[16:08.350 --> 16:11.790]  How many times have we keep buying the same, different ones for different laptops?
[16:12.170 --> 16:13.090]  Um, power from USB.
[16:13.370 --> 16:14.610]  Like, why doesn't everything work?
[16:14.770 --> 16:16.490]  You know, anything that's rechargeable could go USB.
[16:17.110 --> 16:17.750]  Standard connectors.
[16:18.190 --> 16:20.010]  Um, if it snaps shut, it shall snap open.
[16:20.270 --> 16:21.270]  Screws are better than glues.
[16:21.270 --> 16:22.750]  Um, docs and drivers.
[16:22.950 --> 16:25.430]  Like, every company, please put your stuff on archive.org.
[16:25.610 --> 16:26.470]  Like, if it's drivers.
[16:26.570 --> 16:28.010]  Like, how many old things do we have?
[16:28.110 --> 16:29.770]  And we just can't find the drivers, so it's useless.
[16:30.510 --> 16:31.150]  Um, documentation.
[16:31.370 --> 16:31.590]  Put it...
[16:31.590 --> 16:32.090]  There's storage.
[16:32.210 --> 16:32.930]  Storage is free now.
[16:33.050 --> 16:33.770]  Just get it out there.
[16:34.270 --> 16:35.390]  Um, metric or standard?
[16:35.490 --> 16:35.830]  Not both.
[16:35.970 --> 16:36.570]  And, like, schematics.
[16:36.790 --> 16:41.930]  Like, right now, what we're doing at Make is any type of kit or anything we build, um, we're including schematics.
[16:42.290 --> 16:43.850]  Um, we use stuff, same thing.
[16:44.290 --> 16:45.490]  Um, all our stuff comes with schematics.
[16:45.810 --> 16:48.590]  And that kind of leads to the return of the kit.
[16:48.590 --> 17:00.430]  Things... things that are happening right now, because people have access to all sorts of different stuff, because there's online stores, because there's international shipping, there's some kits that we're starting to see that weren't available before.
[17:00.630 --> 17:02.410]  So this one, uh, it's a paper...
[17:02.410 --> 17:03.970]  It's a... I'm sorry, a plastic cup recorder.
[17:04.150 --> 17:07.970]  So you can record your own voice onto a plastic cup, just like a record player.
[17:09.890 --> 17:11.830]  Here's an old-fashioned radio made out of tubes.
[17:12.910 --> 17:13.550]  Uh, RFID.
[17:13.550 --> 17:15.890]  There's tons of... there's an RFID session here earlier.
[17:16.150 --> 17:16.910]  What are the things about that?
[17:17.190 --> 17:17.950]  It's cheap, easy to get.
[17:18.110 --> 17:19.390]  So we started releasing projects.
[17:19.510 --> 17:22.010]  We're like, okay, so RFID, you know, everyone else has it out there.
[17:22.070 --> 17:22.870]  What can we do with it?
[17:22.930 --> 17:26.490]  Well, here's a simple project on how to make, uh, a door opener.
[17:26.650 --> 17:28.890]  So you can just wave your RFID badge and you can get in.
[17:29.050 --> 17:30.890]  But, of course, what did people do right away?
[17:30.970 --> 17:33.790]  They decided to put an RFID, uh, tag in their hand.
[17:34.730 --> 17:36.070]  So, just like you'd expect.
[17:36.570 --> 17:43.390]  Um, so here's a project that you put the reader inside of a keyboard, and as you go up to the keyboard, it'll, uh, unlock your password.
[17:43.630 --> 17:45.390]  So, uh, you don't even need to log in anymore.
[17:45.490 --> 17:46.390]  You just put your hand near it.
[17:46.850 --> 17:49.310]  Uh, the vulnerability being if you get your hand cut off.
[17:49.710 --> 17:49.790]  You know?
[17:50.910 --> 17:51.810]  I mean, you've got other...
[17:51.810 --> 17:52.610]  It's like a denial of service.
[17:52.690 --> 17:52.910]  Yeah.
[17:53.410 --> 17:54.390]  Yeah, it is denial of service.
[17:54.490 --> 17:55.250]  And you've got other problems.
[17:55.550 --> 17:59.610]  Um, and then, of course, what do you do once you have an RFID, um, implant?
[17:59.830 --> 18:04.250]  Well, you make a trampoline that can only be activated with your hand, and when you jump on it, it shoots flames.
[18:04.590 --> 18:08.610]  So this is, uh, an RFID-enabled, uh, flame-shooting trampoline.
[18:08.610 --> 18:09.570]  Of course!
[18:10.070 --> 18:10.570]  Of course!
[18:10.710 --> 18:11.470]  Like, what else are you going to do?
[18:12.150 --> 18:15.330]  And this is the type of thing that would probably be on one of those old magazines I showed.
[18:15.470 --> 18:17.110]  Like, you know, why would you build this thing?
[18:17.530 --> 18:19.250]  Um, so, fun stuff.
[18:19.790 --> 18:25.250]  Uh, and, you know, one of the themes, and I mentioned this before, is, like, once you start to create stuff and mod it...
[18:25.250 --> 18:30.470]  Like, I have a digital camera that's really old, it's really crappy, but I soldered in a new chip that makes it take photos.
[18:30.670 --> 18:32.250]  Like, a second you turn it on, it just keeps taking photos.
[18:32.370 --> 18:35.010]  I like that digital camera better than my good digital camera.
[18:35.190 --> 18:35.850]  Because I made it.
[18:35.890 --> 18:36.610]  I did something with it.
[18:36.610 --> 18:38.670]  Uh, Nixie Tubes is another new example.
[18:38.890 --> 18:41.050]  Like, these are really... this is old Russian hardware.
[18:41.390 --> 18:43.330]  And they were used for all sorts of things.
[18:43.710 --> 18:45.050]  Scientific equipment, medical equipment.
[18:45.190 --> 18:46.750]  I mean, all sorts of, like, hardcore stuff.
[18:46.930 --> 18:48.410]  And now they're just all over the place.
[18:48.750 --> 18:49.990]  And you can buy them.
[18:50.110 --> 18:51.970]  Like, go on eBay, and eBay has RSS feeds now.
[18:52.050 --> 18:53.530]  You can just, like, put in Nixie Tubes.
[18:53.530 --> 18:55.310]  Just keep buying them up, because, like, eventually they might be gone.
[18:55.490 --> 18:59.070]  But people are making clocks, wristwatches, all sorts of things.
[18:59.510 --> 19:03.370]  Um, one of the other things that happened is, uh, candy.
[19:03.710 --> 19:04.390]  And Altoids.
[19:04.550 --> 19:06.930]  And all of a sudden, we kept seeing all these projects.
[19:07.110 --> 19:09.070]  So people would eat these mints, and like, wow, this is a nice case.
[19:09.170 --> 19:09.970]  I should do something with it.
[19:10.110 --> 19:13.970]  So people take their old mouse, and they decide to make an Altoids tin mouse.
[19:14.890 --> 19:15.690]  Oh, that's a project.
[19:16.050 --> 19:20.170]  Uh, this has a camera that's, uh, mounted on top of an Altoids tin.
[19:20.550 --> 19:22.930]  And, uh, it's screwed in, and there's a big, strong magnet.
[19:23.050 --> 19:24.750]  So you can put your video camera on top of your car.
[19:24.890 --> 19:27.030]  And drive around and be, like, fast and furious and stuff like that.
[19:27.410 --> 19:27.750]  I don't know.
[19:29.070 --> 19:29.950]  I'm a little worried about that.
[19:30.190 --> 19:31.170]  Uh, this is a really good one.
[19:31.230 --> 19:31.950]  A little LED switch.
[19:31.990 --> 19:32.750]  You flip the switch.
[19:33.130 --> 19:34.370]  And, uh, you can go to raves.
[19:35.270 --> 19:35.430]  Thanks.
[19:37.770 --> 19:40.370]  And just LEDs in general, uh, used to be what?
[19:40.710 --> 19:40.990]  Like...
[19:40.990 --> 19:43.070]  Just like a dollar, at least, for a red one.
[19:43.190 --> 19:45.630]  And a blue one would be, like, four bucks, like, even five years ago.
[19:45.670 --> 19:45.850]  Yeah.
[19:45.850 --> 19:48.490]  And now there's a session, and you're gonna make them and throw them on things.
[19:48.610 --> 19:48.950]  They're free.
[19:48.950 --> 19:50.090]  Like, people have them stuck to them.
[19:50.210 --> 19:52.050]  You can just literally throwee them away.
[19:52.270 --> 19:54.190]  So, um, this is where I come in.
[19:54.370 --> 19:57.090]  So, you know, what can you do to take part in this?
[19:57.230 --> 20:04.570]  Well, the reason that I think that we have an opportunity here is that, um, electronics got a lot cheaper.
[20:04.810 --> 20:06.650]  And true, there's more surface mount parts.
[20:06.750 --> 20:07.450]  It's harder to solder.
[20:07.610 --> 20:13.050]  But on the other hand, you know, you can get an ARM core chip, which is, like, a hundred megahertz computer.
[20:13.330 --> 20:15.350]  You know, it's, like, this small for five bucks.
[20:15.470 --> 20:16.290]  It's, like, so cheap.
[20:16.290 --> 20:22.310]  Another thing that's really nice is because open source software is already really established, you can get open free tools.
[20:22.490 --> 20:25.370]  GCC has been ported to a lot of microcontrollers and microprocessors.
[20:25.670 --> 20:33.210]  So, pretty much anyone here with a software background, and I have a software background, like, I was a software person, you can just start, like, programming stuff.
[20:33.210 --> 20:36.270]  And, you know, like, iPod Linux, for example.
[20:36.510 --> 20:38.430]  Like, people, you know, reprogram their iPod.
[20:38.570 --> 20:42.190]  Or, um, I'll show some more examples later of things you can do with free tools.
[20:42.430 --> 20:46.270]  But, basically, you know, in the Internet, you know, you don't have to use a Thomas register anymore.
[20:46.390 --> 20:48.410]  You can get circuit boards made for 30 bucks.
[20:48.950 --> 20:51.230]  There's open source circuit layout tools.
[20:51.410 --> 20:53.750]  And this is just from an electronics, you know, point of view.
[20:53.750 --> 20:55.570]  There's probably other tools available.
[20:56.230 --> 20:57.030]  So, that's kind of nice.
[20:57.170 --> 20:58.090]  I mean, this stuff has always been around.
[20:58.230 --> 21:01.730]  It's just really accessible, again, because there's wikis, there's YouTube, there's Flickr.
[21:02.270 --> 21:04.730]  You know, there's so many ways for people to connect.
[21:04.850 --> 21:07.790]  There's Instructables, which we'll talk about also, which is a way of sharing projects.
[21:08.430 --> 21:12.110]  So, I mean, I think it's great that almost anyone can just get into this.
[21:12.150 --> 21:16.110]  I mean, even if all you know right now is PHP or HTML, it's really not hard.
[21:16.250 --> 21:18.350]  And there's tools and kits out there for you to learn.
[21:18.470 --> 21:19.490]  So, that's kind of nice, you know.
[21:20.050 --> 21:21.930]  It's no longer, like, wire wrapping.
[21:21.930 --> 21:24.990]  It's, you know, you can buy a kit for 50 bucks and just get started.
[21:27.590 --> 21:28.810]  So, I kind of did that.
[21:28.970 --> 21:32.350]  And, like, sort of what I do is I make kits and they're educational.
[21:33.610 --> 21:35.330]  You know, you get, like, a bag of parts.
[21:35.670 --> 21:36.550]  I don't know, bag of parts over there.
[21:36.570 --> 21:36.990]  Yeah, you get one of those.
[21:38.490 --> 21:39.930]  And, you know, LEDs are cheap.
[21:40.110 --> 21:42.210]  So, this is the type of project like this.
[21:42.830 --> 21:44.610]  This is the Minio PVA key kit.
[21:47.350 --> 21:50.870]  So, you know, you can get little bags.
[21:50.870 --> 21:52.590]  And they're full of electronic parts.
[21:52.690 --> 21:53.410]  And you solder it together.
[21:53.650 --> 21:55.410]  And then you can plug it into...
[21:55.830 --> 21:57.510]  This one's a USB charger.
[21:57.750 --> 21:58.670]  The one that I showed before.
[21:58.790 --> 21:59.810]  It has a parallel port on it.
[21:59.890 --> 22:01.890]  And you literally plug it into your parallel port.
[22:02.010 --> 22:03.050]  Yeah, not a lot of computers have them.
[22:03.110 --> 22:04.110]  There's a serial port version now.
[22:04.510 --> 22:06.370]  And then you can just download free tools.
[22:06.630 --> 22:07.370]  AVR, GCC.
[22:07.810 --> 22:09.190]  And then reprogram it.
[22:09.250 --> 22:10.090]  And make the LEDs blank.
[22:10.230 --> 22:10.910]  And so, it's kind of neat.
[22:10.910 --> 22:13.310]  Yeah, and so...
[22:14.010 --> 22:16.350]  I don't know if you can see it, but it says make zine.
[22:16.850 --> 22:18.390]  And so, some people...
[22:19.030 --> 22:19.750]  Can you switch over?
[22:21.850 --> 22:23.550]  Some people, like, put it on their bikes.
[22:23.670 --> 22:24.150]  It's just kind of neat.
[22:24.250 --> 22:24.670]  And you bike around.
[22:24.790 --> 22:25.090]  Cool!
[22:25.470 --> 22:26.350]  You know, that's nice.
[22:26.870 --> 22:28.230]  And this guy got kind of political.
[22:28.450 --> 22:28.750]  He...
[22:28.750 --> 22:29.910]  This guy actually...
[22:34.000 --> 22:35.300]  That's the San Francisco version.
[22:35.700 --> 22:36.640]  No, this is actually...
[22:36.640 --> 22:37.980]  He was in Washington, D.C.
[22:38.260 --> 22:39.620]  And he said that...
[22:39.620 --> 22:40.340]  People looked at him.
[22:40.400 --> 22:41.900]  It's a John Deere bike, if you can see.
[22:41.980 --> 22:42.760]  It's kind of cool, too.
[22:44.720 --> 22:45.000]  Um...
[22:45.000 --> 22:45.920]  I don't know.
[22:46.200 --> 22:46.340]  Yeah.
[22:46.340 --> 22:46.940]  Like, that's weird.
[22:48.320 --> 22:48.600]  Um...
[22:48.600 --> 22:49.360]  You know, but...
[22:49.360 --> 22:51.120]  You know, you can program the message.
[22:51.260 --> 22:51.700]  That's kind of neat.
[22:51.840 --> 22:54.220]  You know, there's probably people in the audience who've actually bought this kit.
[22:54.240 --> 22:54.940]  It's, like, 20 bucks.
[22:55.200 --> 22:56.980]  And, like, it costs, like, $5 of parts.
[22:57.060 --> 22:58.200]  You can actually have...
[22:58.200 --> 22:59.260]  It's the schematic online.
[22:59.480 --> 23:00.080]  The code's online.
[23:00.220 --> 23:02.440]  You could get the parts for free and build it.
[23:02.440 --> 23:03.820]  And some people do, if you look on Flickr.
[23:03.820 --> 23:06.500]  They're, like, so cheap, they don't even send me the $17.50.
[23:06.500 --> 23:09.980]  They get a circuit board and they solder the parts together on the circuit board themselves.
[23:10.160 --> 23:10.600]  And it's fine.
[23:11.440 --> 23:11.800]  Um...
[23:11.800 --> 23:14.280]  So, I made a bigger version for a bike wheel, also.
[23:14.460 --> 23:15.760]  So, it's, like, the same thing, but really big.
[23:15.800 --> 23:16.500]  And I have it.
[23:16.660 --> 23:17.500]  And I don't know if you want to...
[23:17.500 --> 23:17.840]  Yeah, sure.
[23:18.620 --> 23:19.160]  Demo it.
[23:21.000 --> 23:21.900]  That's what it looks like.
[23:23.240 --> 23:23.600]  No.
[23:25.880 --> 23:26.960]  That's what it'll work.
[23:27.740 --> 23:28.280]  Oh, my God.
[23:28.820 --> 23:29.540]  So, there's a...
[23:30.080 --> 23:31.800]  There's a magnet that attaches to your bike frame.
[23:31.800 --> 23:33.260]  It's just, like, an odometer, but backwards.
[23:33.940 --> 23:35.160]  So, the magnet's on your frame.
[23:36.140 --> 23:36.900]  So, you can see the...
[23:36.900 --> 23:37.920]  This is a biohazard.
[23:38.840 --> 23:39.880]  You can't really see it.
[23:39.940 --> 23:40.640]  It has to be on the wheel.
[23:40.840 --> 23:41.880]  But, you know, believe me, it works.
[23:42.140 --> 23:42.940]  So, I rode around...
[23:42.940 --> 23:45.360]  I rode around Burning Man with this Pac-Man and a ghost.
[23:45.540 --> 23:46.880]  And, like, you would go, pack, pack, pack, pack, pack, pack, pack.
[23:46.960 --> 23:47.740]  It was kind of cool.
[23:48.600 --> 23:50.980]  Like, some people had bad trips or something.
[23:53.200 --> 23:54.920]  So, like, another thing that I did...
[23:54.920 --> 23:57.120]  What's interesting is because these tools are so inexpensive.
[23:57.420 --> 24:01.220]  And with not a lot of education, like, this project is actually a data sheet.
[24:01.320 --> 24:02.560]  I just copied the schematic.
[24:02.800 --> 24:04.000]  I didn't do anything at all.
[24:04.180 --> 24:06.720]  I built my own USB charger for an iPod.
[24:06.820 --> 24:07.980]  And people really like this.
[24:08.020 --> 24:09.060]  It's a good beginner project.
[24:09.360 --> 24:13.360]  And what's nice about this is it's more efficient and better engineered than almost anything else in the market.
[24:13.360 --> 24:14.960]  Like, I disassembled the Griffin once.
[24:15.040 --> 24:15.780]  And they did a good job.
[24:15.780 --> 24:16.440]  Don't get me wrong.
[24:16.620 --> 24:21.660]  But because I'm not constrained by, oh, we have to make it as cheap as possible because our margins are so low.
[24:22.060 --> 24:25.640]  You know, I can do as good a job as I want and just say, like, oh, here's the parts.
[24:25.640 --> 24:26.740]  And it's a little more expensive.
[24:26.920 --> 24:30.780]  But, you know, because there's no marketing and advertisement, you don't have to pay over this overhead cost.
[24:31.160 --> 24:32.600]  And it's in Altoids 10.
[24:33.020 --> 24:34.280]  So, we have one up there.
[24:34.440 --> 24:39.720]  And, you know, you put two batteries in and you can go on your PlayStation Portable or your iPod.
[24:39.900 --> 24:42.240]  Yeah, come up after the talk or the vendor booth.
[24:42.240 --> 24:44.140]  We'll probably be building a few and we'll give them one.
[24:44.140 --> 24:44.860]  Yeah, you can like...
[24:44.860 --> 24:47.120]  We'll have a couple of kits at the vendor booth if you want to get one.
[24:47.180 --> 24:48.080]  And we'll have a soldering set up.
[24:48.140 --> 24:49.820]  So, you can sit down there and just like build it.
[24:50.080 --> 24:51.020]  It takes like 20 minutes.
[24:52.460 --> 24:54.560]  So, this is sort of like my final project.
[24:55.080 --> 25:00.140]  So, this is actually really interesting because this is sort of like an extreme version of open source hardware.
[25:00.900 --> 25:04.540]  If anybody here is a musician, you've probably heard of the Roland TB-303.
[25:04.920 --> 25:09.200]  If not, it's a really famous synthesizer that was manufactured in 84.
[25:09.760 --> 25:16.760]  And unfortunately, it was meant to be an accompaniment for guitarists and like nobody used it because it made really weird noises.
[25:17.340 --> 25:25.780]  But then, somewhere I think in the late 80s or early 90s, I don't remember exactly who it was, but a bunch of people started using it to make acid tech now.
[25:26.220 --> 25:27.820]  And it just exploded.
[25:28.020 --> 25:28.500]  It was huge.
[25:28.620 --> 25:30.220]  Like everyone needed a TB-303.
[25:30.220 --> 25:32.120]  And originally, they were like a couple hundred bucks.
[25:32.320 --> 25:35.620]  And then now, you go on eBay, you type in TB-303, it's a thousand dollars minimum.
[25:36.180 --> 25:39.100]  But what's really nice is that you can't copyright hardware.
[25:39.500 --> 25:42.180]  This is really great because it means you can reverse engineer hardware.
[25:42.280 --> 25:44.780]  And as long as there's no patents, and in this case, there weren't any patents.
[25:45.100 --> 25:47.800]  Well, there was one, but it was actually released into the public domain by Moog.
[25:47.920 --> 25:48.360]  Thanks, Moog.
[25:50.940 --> 25:55.720]  We made the exact schematic circuit diagram, made a kit for free, open sourced it.
[25:55.840 --> 25:58.120]  And like, I have a couple hundred people who own these.
[25:58.240 --> 26:01.960]  And it's really neat because the sequencer is all open source also.
[26:02.360 --> 26:04.600]  And people actually went and modified it.
[26:04.660 --> 26:05.260]  This is amazing.
[26:05.440 --> 26:07.560]  Usually, you buy a synthesizer.
[26:07.660 --> 26:08.060]  That's it.
[26:08.460 --> 26:09.140]  You've got it.
[26:09.180 --> 26:09.940]  It does what it does.
[26:09.940 --> 26:11.740]  If it doesn't, then you have to buy another one.
[26:12.340 --> 26:19.100]  One of my customers really wanted to have swing timing, which is when you have sort of on the 16th note, sometimes a little before, a little bit after.
[26:19.280 --> 26:20.460]  So it gives it a jazzy feel.
[26:21.420 --> 26:24.000]  And this one, the original 303 didn't have it.
[26:24.080 --> 26:24.800]  And this one didn't have it.
[26:24.860 --> 26:25.960]  And he said, I want to add it.
[26:26.020 --> 26:27.360]  And I said, sure, there's the interrupt.
[26:27.580 --> 26:29.700]  Go, do try this, this, and this, and see what happens.
[26:29.780 --> 26:32.980]  And he successfully did it and then shared the firmware with other people.
[26:33.060 --> 26:33.820]  And they uploaded it.
[26:33.880 --> 26:36.760]  And so there's a couple of people out there who have upgraded synthesizers.
[26:37.600 --> 26:42.360]  If you could do that with your VCR, your TV, like, every time you're like, it's broken, I'd want to fix it.
[26:42.560 --> 26:43.300]  But you can't.
[26:43.360 --> 26:44.380]  And you can do that with Apache.
[26:44.380 --> 26:48.180]  And you can do that with Mozilla, and you can do that with, you know, any open source software.
[26:48.400 --> 26:50.600]  But you can't do that with hardware right now because it's so closed.
[26:51.040 --> 26:54.360]  So, like, that would be really neat if you guys kind of started doing that.
[26:54.500 --> 26:56.440]  And we could, together, make open source hardware reality.
[26:58.020 --> 27:00.700]  One of the... so we've been trying to do the same thing.
[27:00.780 --> 27:04.680]  So we have a make controller kit, and we decided to release all the schematics.
[27:05.000 --> 27:10.280]  And it's basically, like, any time you want to control any type of device using your computer, a good example would be, like, an ambient orb.
[27:10.280 --> 27:15.280]  Let's say if you wanted to have, like, your instant message client change the color of...
[27:15.900 --> 27:16.220]  Oh, yeah.
[27:16.880 --> 27:20.160]  If you wanted to have it change the color of a lamp in the room.
[27:20.940 --> 27:21.540]  Which button am I pressing?
[27:21.940 --> 27:22.260]  Press.
[27:25.640 --> 27:30.180]  So, and a lot of people, when we announced this kit and we did the article, they're like, oh, I would do it a different way.
[27:30.400 --> 27:32.480]  And it's awesome because I said, yeah, please do.
[27:32.680 --> 27:33.300]  You know, like, okay.
[27:33.740 --> 27:38.520]  You know, here, download the schematics, download the firmware, update it any way you want, and we'll see how it goes.
[27:38.520 --> 27:44.180]  I mean, it's a, it's a first experiment in, like, a full-blown kit that could be used just about for anything.
[27:44.820 --> 27:50.020]  And again, this is all, all the information about this is available for download and you can build your own or whatever.
[27:50.460 --> 27:51.700]  This is that camera I was talking about.
[27:51.860 --> 27:54.000]  So, it's a 1.3 megapixel camera.
[27:54.100 --> 27:55.940]  It's, like, the old lunchbox size Olympics.
[27:56.400 --> 27:59.640]  Ones that, like, we all have, like, we've all bought, and it was, like, $500 at a time.
[28:00.180 --> 28:08.100]  And I took it apart and I'm like, you know, it'd be really neat if I could do something else with it and then get other people to start doing other things with these because there were so many of them.
[28:08.360 --> 28:14.940]  I looked up on, there was a market share report on, like, which cameras were out there when they first, when digital cameras first start chipping.
[28:15.060 --> 28:16.040]  I'm like, oh, there's a lot of these, good.
[28:16.340 --> 28:29.220]  So, what I did is I took this little timer chip, the 555 chip, like, most common, like, little electrical component out there, and I started playing around until I found that I could rewire the switch to automatically take photos as soon as you turn it on.
[28:29.320 --> 28:32.180]  And it uses this old smart media, like, this big, like, flash card.
[28:32.180 --> 28:33.620]  I don't even know if they sell them anymore.
[28:34.020 --> 28:35.660]  I'm like, there's no other use for this thing.
[28:35.780 --> 28:36.760]  And I don't care if it breaks.
[28:36.860 --> 28:37.860]  I don't care what happens to it.
[28:38.020 --> 28:39.160]  So, I'm like, okay, I know what I can do.
[28:39.240 --> 28:40.100]  I can put it on a kite.
[28:41.500 --> 28:45.200]  So, I tied it to a kite and it went up and up and up.
[28:46.200 --> 28:48.100]  And it crashed and it survived.
[28:48.180 --> 28:49.400]  And this thing just won't die.
[28:49.620 --> 28:52.140]  So, I started to, like, I can do other things with it.
[28:52.320 --> 28:58.200]  So, I was looking at Amazon's A9 search engine, and you can type in an address.
[28:58.460 --> 29:03.680]  And what they did is they drove around with this, like, really expensive car with this GPS and this camera.
[29:03.900 --> 29:06.460]  And they put all those dots or photos they took.
[29:07.280 --> 29:07.820]  I'm like, you know what?
[29:07.820 --> 29:09.160]  I bet you I could do my own version of this.
[29:09.420 --> 29:11.520]  So, I took a GPS, a little handheld.
[29:11.700 --> 29:14.180]  And I took my camera that automatically took the photos.
[29:14.200 --> 29:17.320]  And the GPS logs as a pretty standard file.
[29:17.400 --> 29:18.560]  And it has a timestamp.
[29:18.780 --> 29:20.740]  And the camera takes photos.
[29:20.760 --> 29:22.200]  And those photos have a timestamp.
[29:22.280 --> 29:24.280]  So, all I did is I mashed those together.
[29:24.440 --> 29:26.600]  And then I made my own version of A9.
[29:26.740 --> 29:28.280]  And this is just me driving to the Apple store.
[29:28.280 --> 29:31.340]  I mean, it's like, it's all I really got to.
[29:32.080 --> 29:32.960]  Other examples.
[29:33.340 --> 29:37.620]  Earlier today, there was the disposable digital video camera.
[29:37.860 --> 29:40.680]  And we're finding people are using these projects.
[29:40.780 --> 29:41.180]  They're light.
[29:41.340 --> 29:41.620]  They're easy.
[29:42.580 --> 29:44.020]  This is one of them right here.
[29:49.600 --> 29:51.620]  And any of you guys seen John's talk earlier?
[29:51.940 --> 29:52.400]  Yeah.
[29:52.710 --> 29:53.680]  John's awesome, by the way.
[29:53.720 --> 29:54.100]  Yeah.
[29:54.710 --> 29:55.000]  Scary.
[29:55.000 --> 29:56.680]  So, this is the USB mod.
[29:56.840 --> 29:58.920]  And so, right away...
[30:00.840 --> 30:01.620]  Here's some other ones.
[30:01.760 --> 30:02.960]  The best one is like kids.
[30:05.340 --> 30:06.240]  Some of the photos are great.
[30:06.320 --> 30:08.400]  What happens is people take these photos and they put it in a Flickr group.
[30:08.500 --> 30:09.400]  And then everyone learns about it.
[30:09.460 --> 30:10.740]  And everyone wants to take photos like this.
[30:12.690 --> 30:13.720]  So, really neat photos.
[30:14.720 --> 30:15.280]  Other things.
[30:16.000 --> 30:17.080]  So, yeah.
[30:17.320 --> 30:17.960]  Rotary phones.
[30:19.710 --> 30:20.860]  It's kind of a sad story.
[30:21.060 --> 30:21.800]  So, I bring this...
[30:21.800 --> 30:22.820]  This is my cell phone.
[30:24.280 --> 30:25.480]  That I bring with me everywhere.
[30:25.950 --> 30:26.440]  It's like...
[30:26.440 --> 30:27.340]  It's awesome at restaurants.
[30:30.600 --> 30:30.940]  And...
[30:37.570 --> 30:39.770]  So, the thing about rotary phones...
[30:39.770 --> 30:40.790]  And it's just a sad...
[30:40.790 --> 30:41.450]  Yeah.
[30:41.690 --> 30:43.030]  It's just kind of a sad story.
[30:43.210 --> 30:44.550]  When I bring this places...
[30:44.550 --> 30:46.430]  There's a little kid and he put his hand in it.
[30:46.710 --> 30:47.370]  Like his whole hand.
[30:47.490 --> 30:47.970]  He's like, I don't...
[30:47.970 --> 30:49.530]  What type of game controller is this?
[30:49.530 --> 30:50.450]  I'm like, oh man.
[30:50.910 --> 30:52.290]  This is bad news.
[30:53.290 --> 30:54.030]  So, yeah.
[30:54.110 --> 30:55.130]  This is a rotary cell phone.
[30:55.550 --> 31:00.470]  What you do is you gut a regular rotary phone.
[31:00.670 --> 31:01.110]  Which you can get.
[31:01.830 --> 31:03.950]  Garage sales are actually the best place for them.
[31:04.470 --> 31:06.670]  And SparkFun Electronics, who I'm going to...
[31:06.670 --> 31:08.050]  I have their link in the back.
[31:08.210 --> 31:09.990]  They sell all the components that you need.
[31:10.090 --> 31:11.270]  And you basically just rewire it.
[31:11.350 --> 31:14.570]  And the signals from the dialer get stored.
[31:14.970 --> 31:16.550]  And what I'm going to try to do right now...
[31:20.290 --> 31:22.130]  I'm going to give away something cool.
[31:22.350 --> 31:23.410]  I'll probably give away that room.
[31:23.550 --> 31:25.250]  But so, I want you guys to get your phones out.
[31:25.350 --> 31:28.490]  And the first person to get to the phone will win.
[31:28.610 --> 31:35.170]  It's 206-355-1323.
[31:37.670 --> 31:38.110]  All right.
[31:38.230 --> 31:40.490]  Now, if we have signal, it'll ring.
[31:42.050 --> 31:42.530]  Oh!
[31:43.610 --> 31:44.450]  We've got a winner.
[31:48.750 --> 31:49.230]  Hello?
[31:50.850 --> 31:51.950]  Who is it?
[31:53.430 --> 31:54.390]  Jacob Applebaum!
[31:54.490 --> 31:54.910]  You can't win!
[31:55.150 --> 31:55.510]  Wow!
[31:56.390 --> 31:57.570]  He has the phone number already.
[31:58.290 --> 31:58.830]  He cheated.
[31:59.990 --> 32:00.290]  Okay.
[32:02.710 --> 32:03.190]  Okay.
[32:04.030 --> 32:05.570]  He's not allowed to hack the contest.
[32:05.850 --> 32:06.030]  All right.
[32:07.450 --> 32:08.570]  He has my phone number already.
[32:08.570 --> 32:08.850]  All right.
[32:09.410 --> 32:10.590]  So whoever this is going to win.
[32:12.730 --> 32:13.090]  Hello?
[32:14.410 --> 32:15.030]  Who is it?
[32:15.710 --> 32:16.090]  Who won?
[32:17.370 --> 32:18.010]  Raise your hand.
[32:18.210 --> 32:18.570]  Stand up!
[32:20.070 --> 32:20.430]  Yay!
[32:20.630 --> 32:20.970]  Okay, great.
[32:24.750 --> 32:25.910]  You won a hacked Roomba.
[32:26.070 --> 32:27.390]  I'll show the hacked Roomba in a minute.
[32:27.510 --> 32:28.410]  But anyways, you won it.
[32:29.630 --> 32:29.990]  So...
[32:29.990 --> 32:31.490]  Now what's going to happen is this is on DVD.
[32:32.190 --> 32:33.170]  And people watch it.
[32:33.250 --> 32:34.350]  I'm going to get phone calls forever.
[32:34.890 --> 32:35.370]  So...
[32:42.880 --> 32:43.360]  So...
[32:43.360 --> 32:46.120]  If you guys come to the talk tomorrow, we'll...
[32:46.820 --> 32:48.320]  We'll show you how to build cell phone jammer.
[32:48.380 --> 32:49.140]  So this isn't a problem.
[32:52.110 --> 32:53.270]  So now you can't call.
[32:53.510 --> 32:54.610]  Because the cell phone jammer's on.
[32:54.890 --> 32:55.290]  Hopefully.
[32:55.750 --> 32:56.930]  And neither can anyone else.
[32:57.650 --> 32:57.970]  Anyways.
[32:59.010 --> 33:00.650]  So here's an inside view.
[33:01.550 --> 33:01.970]  The...
[33:01.970 --> 33:05.330]  The interesting thing about this particular phone is...
[33:05.330 --> 33:05.950]  The...
[33:05.950 --> 33:06.730]  It lasts forever.
[33:06.790 --> 33:07.550]  Like if it doesn't ring.
[33:07.550 --> 33:08.290]  But once it starts...
[33:08.290 --> 33:09.130]  It really drains the battery.
[33:09.270 --> 33:09.930]  Like that's a mighty ring.
[33:10.010 --> 33:10.790]  And I even have it turned down.
[33:11.130 --> 33:12.810]  Movie theater is a fun place to take it too as well.
[33:14.630 --> 33:15.710]  So those are the components.
[33:16.930 --> 33:17.250]  VCRs.
[33:17.310 --> 33:18.950]  How many people have VCRs?
[33:19.190 --> 33:19.430]  Yeah.
[33:19.690 --> 33:21.510]  What the f*ck are we going to do with all these VCRs?
[33:21.630 --> 33:22.510]  There's no...
[33:22.510 --> 33:24.370]  Dude, you can't even get VHS tapes anymore.
[33:24.510 --> 33:25.270]  So we thought about this.
[33:25.350 --> 33:27.930]  We're like, we're going to figure out something to do with a VCR.
[33:28.130 --> 33:31.130]  And we figured out you can make a cat feeder out of it.
[33:33.490 --> 33:34.970]  Unfortunately, it looks like a cat grinder.
[33:38.770 --> 33:40.490]  But it depends on how you feel about cats.
[33:41.230 --> 33:42.890]  So at 4:20 every day, the cat gets fed.
[33:43.210 --> 33:44.270]  And this is what it looks like.
[33:44.330 --> 33:45.410]  Again, it does look like a cat...
[33:45.410 --> 33:46.150]  Cat food grinder.
[33:47.130 --> 33:47.950]  Or a cat grinder.
[33:49.010 --> 33:50.190]  So you just email me.
[33:50.310 --> 33:51.450]  Like the schematics are...
[33:51.450 --> 33:52.070]  It's easy to build.
[33:52.150 --> 33:52.730]  And there's the motors.
[33:52.890 --> 33:54.130]  And like, it's good.
[33:54.290 --> 33:54.910]  And cats like it.
[33:57.350 --> 33:59.090]  iRobot makes these robotic vacuums.
[33:59.890 --> 34:01.730]  And does anyone have one of these, by the way?
[34:02.170 --> 34:02.850]  Yeah, a few people?
[34:02.930 --> 34:03.210]  Okay, good.
[34:03.210 --> 34:06.270]  If you look, there's a little tiny port on the side that you can just pry off.
[34:06.470 --> 34:08.050]  It's like a little old Mac connector.
[34:09.270 --> 34:19.330]  And one of the things that we talked to iRobot about a while ago was, you know, it would be great if people could start getting into robotics without having to do all the awful things about robotics.
[34:19.630 --> 34:24.010]  If you've tried ever to build a robot, you do all the locomotion.
[34:24.130 --> 34:25.290]  Like, yeah, I got it to move.
[34:25.350 --> 34:27.730]  And now I'm tired and I don't feel like doing anything else ever again.
[34:27.730 --> 34:31.290]  So you don't get to, like, ever focus on the actual robotics parts.
[34:32.010 --> 34:34.470]  So they decided to release their open interface.
[34:34.710 --> 34:39.930]  And you can make your own USB to serial connector.
[34:40.530 --> 34:43.470]  The other way to do it, and I think I have the connector somewhere around here.
[34:44.370 --> 34:44.830]  Oh, Bluetooth.
[34:47.070 --> 34:47.810]  Yeah, here it is.
[34:47.810 --> 34:50.770]  So this is from a bubblegum container.
[34:51.590 --> 34:52.070]  Yeah.
[34:52.410 --> 34:54.750]  And this is the old Apple serial connector.
[34:54.970 --> 34:57.450]  And it's a little cheap Bluetooth part.
[34:57.530 --> 35:03.350]  And you can use your phone or you can use any Bluetooth-enabled computer to control a Roomba.
[35:03.490 --> 35:04.770]  And there's, like, a ton of projects.
[35:07.990 --> 35:11.430]  Already we're starting to see an entire community build around it.
[35:11.470 --> 35:12.370]  There's a book coming out.
[35:12.450 --> 35:14.170]  I think it's, like, Roomba Hacks or something.
[35:14.170 --> 35:16.750]  And the how-to, again, it's already out there.
[35:17.270 --> 35:18.310]  It's being used.
[35:18.990 --> 35:23.850]  Kids are using these robots as something to learn about electronics and programming.
[35:24.270 --> 35:25.610]  It's super easy because it's dumb.
[35:25.790 --> 35:26.730]  It's just a serial interface.
[35:26.850 --> 35:27.790]  So you're, like, go and it goes.
[35:27.930 --> 35:28.810]  So you can, like, do logo.
[35:29.070 --> 35:29.590]  Like, real logo.
[35:31.370 --> 35:32.510]  A couple of shots of it.
[35:32.710 --> 35:34.490]  Someone made a MIDI interface.
[35:34.770 --> 35:36.590]  So you can use it as a MIDI instrument.
[35:37.470 --> 35:38.230]  That's kind of fun.
[35:39.490 --> 35:42.130]  I've taken this to, yeah.
[35:42.750 --> 35:44.350]  So I take it to VARs.
[35:44.810 --> 35:45.770]  And I'll bring two.
[35:46.030 --> 35:50.050]  And it'll be human versus regular Roomba.
[35:50.150 --> 35:53.850]  So the Roomba there next to the red ball is in cleanup mode.
[35:53.890 --> 35:56.630]  It's using its normal algorithm to move the balls around.
[35:56.670 --> 35:57.770]  And it thinks it's vacuuming.
[35:57.850 --> 35:59.910]  And then the human tries to beat it.
[35:59.990 --> 36:01.790]  And, like, the robot wins most of the time.
[36:02.190 --> 36:03.730]  So human doesn't win.
[36:04.350 --> 36:07.650]  We also started an underground Roomba cockfighting tournament.
[36:10.470 --> 36:11.690]  So that's kind of neat.
[36:11.830 --> 36:14.850]  And you can only use stuff available at, like, you know, office settings.
[36:15.430 --> 36:16.570]  And that's kind of fun.
[36:16.630 --> 36:17.910]  And, like, there's money involved.
[36:18.170 --> 36:19.490]  I mean, there's betting.
[36:19.690 --> 36:25.530]  And then there was one time we decided to do real-life Frogger.
[36:25.870 --> 36:27.110]  That's a very bad idea.
[36:27.230 --> 36:27.390]  Yeah.
[36:28.610 --> 36:31.310]  So if you've ever been to Austin, it's pretty laid back.
[36:32.430 --> 36:33.710]  And they didn't really care too much.
[36:34.370 --> 36:36.270]  The cops came by and just, like, ding, ding, ding.
[36:36.390 --> 36:37.170]  They were like, oh, that's cute.
[36:37.330 --> 36:37.490]  Yeah.
[36:37.750 --> 36:38.410]  Like, it's pretty bad.
[36:38.530 --> 36:40.850]  It's pretty bad when the cops, like, ring their bell and go, oh, cool, man.
[36:40.930 --> 36:41.650]  Real Frogger.
[36:41.850 --> 36:41.970]  You know.
[36:43.650 --> 36:43.910]  So...
[36:43.910 --> 36:44.370]  Still.
[36:44.710 --> 36:45.590]  This is how we made it.
[36:52.910 --> 36:55.850]  Apparently, like, half of Digg thinks we should be arrested for this.
[36:55.930 --> 36:56.130]  Yeah.
[36:56.310 --> 36:59.290]  Someone sent an email to the cops and said, I can't believe...
[36:59.290 --> 37:02.110]  Because they didn't realize, like, Austin, like, you guys have ever been to Austin?
[37:02.150 --> 37:02.770]  Like, it's a cool town.
[37:02.770 --> 37:03.330]  They were like, yay.
[37:03.650 --> 37:03.730]  Yeah.
[37:04.090 --> 37:06.810]  So we made it out of, like, a tourist T-shirt and some cups and everything.
[37:07.030 --> 37:08.170]  And then we placed bets.
[37:08.230 --> 37:08.750]  There's some bets.
[37:08.790 --> 37:09.690]  We were on a betting spree or something.
[37:09.910 --> 37:12.430]  We see how many times we can get it back and forth across the street.
[37:12.930 --> 37:14.130]  And everyone said one.
[37:14.290 --> 37:14.550]  And we...
[37:14.550 --> 37:15.370]  Actually, it was like ten.
[37:15.750 --> 37:17.630]  And then eventually a white SUV ran it over.
[37:18.570 --> 37:19.390]  But it survived.
[37:19.770 --> 37:20.270]  These were...
[37:20.270 --> 37:21.170]  They're pretty tough.
[37:21.790 --> 37:22.150]  So...
[37:22.150 --> 37:22.750]  Yeah.
[37:22.750 --> 37:24.270]  The TV-B-Gone.
[37:24.970 --> 37:26.090]  Fun little device.
[37:26.430 --> 37:27.910]  You know, it's fun to turn off TVs.
[37:28.650 --> 37:32.150]  And we thought it would be more fun if we added more LEDs.
[37:34.150 --> 37:35.450]  Like, twelve of them.
[37:35.970 --> 37:37.250]  And added more power.
[37:37.530 --> 37:40.850]  So this one can turn off a TV up to, like, 90 feet away.
[37:42.330 --> 37:45.110]  And the battery lasts, like, a really long time.
[37:46.290 --> 37:46.730]  Yeah.
[37:47.330 --> 37:49.270]  And the how-to is on make.
[37:49.390 --> 37:50.990]  And it's available on Instructables.
[37:51.330 --> 37:53.850]  And it's really fun.
[37:53.950 --> 37:54.970]  And then there's another one.
[37:55.190 --> 37:58.750]  Let's say if you don't want to, like, aim your thing around and, like, you know, look crazy.
[37:59.010 --> 38:00.890]  You can build it inside of a hat.
[38:01.890 --> 38:02.330]  So...
[38:02.330 --> 38:03.090]  Yeah.
[38:03.350 --> 38:04.230]  It's hard to see.
[38:04.390 --> 38:04.910]  It's hard to see.
[38:04.990 --> 38:08.410]  But you can switch over to the computer.
[38:09.010 --> 38:09.590]  The internal switch.
[38:09.750 --> 38:10.030]  Internal?
[38:10.370 --> 38:10.550]  Yeah.
[38:11.430 --> 38:12.070]  Oh, right.
[38:12.350 --> 38:12.630]  Yeah.
[38:12.850 --> 38:14.190]  So that's the hat on the outside.
[38:14.630 --> 38:15.370]  It's the hat underneath.
[38:17.190 --> 38:21.570]  So it's kind of fun to walk around in your favorite electronics store and turn off things.
[38:21.670 --> 38:23.470]  And this is part of kind of a bigger project.
[38:24.610 --> 38:28.190]  You know, if you've gone to computer shows like CES, they used to have, like, fun stuff.
[38:28.210 --> 38:29.950]  And now they just have big LCD screens.
[38:30.210 --> 38:31.010]  That's all they're selling.
[38:31.510 --> 38:33.010]  So I thought it'd be kind of fun to...
[38:33.010 --> 38:34.210]  I don't know if someone would do it.
[38:34.290 --> 38:34.730]  I mean, maybe...
[38:34.730 --> 38:36.150]  I would laugh about it, maybe write about it.
[38:36.210 --> 38:39.310]  But, like, to put it in a helium balloon and have this kind of pointed down all day.
[38:40.350 --> 38:42.610]  Kind of just, like, with the breeze, like, 90 feet.
[38:43.930 --> 38:44.730]  Turn it off.
[38:46.070 --> 38:46.710]  Kind of fun.
[38:48.550 --> 38:55.530]  LEGO is another neat company that their latest round of robots, the firmware, you can do anything you want with it.
[38:55.590 --> 38:56.210]  They didn't do that before.
[38:56.410 --> 38:57.090]  They do that now.
[38:57.230 --> 38:59.350]  And so this is their new Next Kit.
[38:59.550 --> 39:01.330]  And people have just been doing weird things with LEGOs anyways.
[39:01.470 --> 39:02.450]  Turning in the USB drives.
[39:02.450 --> 39:03.810]  This is a LEGO vending machine.
[39:04.970 --> 39:06.390]  So, like, you can get the stuff.
[39:08.070 --> 39:12.550]  And the LEGO community has done a really good job of sharing all the programming behind it.
[39:12.610 --> 39:15.470]  You can play Connect 4 versus LEGOs.
[39:16.330 --> 39:17.030]  Apparently it's good.
[39:17.250 --> 39:18.150]  Line following robot.
[39:18.590 --> 39:21.390]  And things are starting to advance even more.
[39:21.470 --> 39:24.230]  And we're going to talk a little bit about the future and what's changing.
[39:24.230 --> 39:28.130]  Well, there's the commoditization of the hardware.
[39:28.410 --> 39:29.930]  There's the software that's free.
[39:30.150 --> 39:35.750]  LEGO and there's open projects that you build everything virtually and then you know which bricks you need.
[39:35.870 --> 39:43.230]  So we're starting to see that that might be something that happens in the near future with some of the electronics and some of the other projects that people build.
[39:43.730 --> 39:48.530]  So, again, going back to more building stuff and how you can get involved.
[39:49.130 --> 39:52.130]  Well, everything is made in Chinese sweatshops now.
[39:52.310 --> 39:53.070]  Like this one.
[39:53.330 --> 39:59.150]  And that's kind of bad because it means that, again, it's kind of like you open stuff up and it's really complicated and weird.
[39:59.430 --> 40:01.050]  But there's also some side effects.
[40:01.170 --> 40:13.950]  And one of the really nice side effects, and again this goes back to Mousehammer's talk earlier, is that stuff is so cheap that if you break, if you hack it and break it, it doesn't matter because it was $10, a $10 camcorder, $20 camcorder.
[40:14.310 --> 40:14.970]  Who cares?
[40:15.150 --> 40:25.170]  Like you can firmware hack it and like, you know, if you mess it up and you brick it and anyone who has a PlayStation Portable has tried to do firmware upgrades and messed up, you understand this is kind of tragic because it's like a $200 device.
[40:25.950 --> 40:34.930]  But with, you know, quantification of hardware, you know, you can go in there and mess with stuff like, you know, he messed with this digital camera and made it into a kite aerial photography rig.
[40:35.690 --> 40:42.650]  A really popular project that I think is great is, and a lot of people here probably have one of these, is the WRT-54G from Linksys.
[40:43.290 --> 40:49.650]  So for example, again, you know, cheap electronics, like certain electronics are so cheap, you can get an ARM core for nothing.
[40:50.570 --> 40:53.870]  Inside this chip is an actual Linux computer and that does all the routing.
[40:54.030 --> 40:56.210]  It was actually, it was totally practical for them to do this.
[40:56.270 --> 40:57.750]  And because it's running Linux, it's open source.
[40:57.950 --> 40:59.710]  And because it's open source, they had to give away the information.
[41:00.070 --> 41:06.830]  And because they gave away the information, people started building communities where you can like, share information on how to improve your router and that's kind of neat.
[41:06.830 --> 41:14.610]  Like, again, you know, you don't need to actually know electronics to have an electrical engineering degree to get in and start messing with hardware and like screwing around with that.
[41:14.710 --> 41:15.290]  So that's kind of nice.
[41:15.390 --> 41:21.270]  It's nice that firmware is, you know, it's possible to upgrade firmware for so cheap, especially with, you know, open source tools.
[41:21.850 --> 41:25.070]  You know, iPod Linux, again, it's, you know, you can do stuff like this.
[41:25.070 --> 41:27.190]  You know, even five years ago, this would have been really difficult.
[41:28.870 --> 41:42.970]  And, you know, another thing that's going to be interesting to see in the next five to ten years is, just as, you know, ten years ago, a Pentium computer, 100 megahertz Pentium cost about a thousand dollars and a CD burner one speed was like 400 bucks and it was really delicate and it broke.
[41:43.850 --> 41:45.810]  And now it's like, you can get a Linux computer for nothing.
[41:45.890 --> 41:47.710]  Again, it's so commodified, it's so cheap.
[41:48.030 --> 41:51.910]  Well, you know, this machine, like the one on the left is a PCB router.
[41:52.310 --> 41:53.770]  It's actually about like this big.
[41:53.890 --> 41:54.490]  It's not too big.
[41:54.670 --> 41:56.670]  And the one on the right is a mini mill.
[41:56.990 --> 42:02.790]  And so you could theoretically, just as laser printers are worth 5,000, 10,000 now, they're only a couple hundred bucks.
[42:03.150 --> 42:08.170]  It could be that, you know, one day this fab revolution that people are talking about, these could be in your home.
[42:08.230 --> 42:09.230]  You could buy this at Sears.
[42:09.470 --> 42:18.110]  So you could download open source information on how to build a USB charger and then press print and it'll print out the case on the mini mill and it'll print out the circuit board.
[42:18.270 --> 42:19.890]  And then you order some parts from Amazon.
[42:19.890 --> 42:23.170]  Amazon currently is selling like mechanical and electronic components.
[42:23.510 --> 42:24.570]  They're trying to get into that market.
[42:24.970 --> 42:26.170]  And like do this stuff at home.
[42:26.310 --> 42:26.910]  So that's kind of nice.
[42:27.070 --> 42:28.550]  Like, you know, do-it-yourself fabrication.
[42:28.990 --> 42:31.410]  You know, it's incredibly cheap, on the fly.
[42:32.050 --> 42:33.930]  You know, you could compile stuff at home.
[42:34.070 --> 42:34.670]  That's kind of cool.
[42:34.950 --> 42:35.930]  CD-ROM burners.
[42:36.150 --> 42:38.350]  Remember, they were like $5,000 and they were cheaper.
[42:38.750 --> 42:39.470]  Laser printers.
[42:39.810 --> 42:42.810]  It was like, you know, too expensive for anyone to have.
[42:42.930 --> 42:48.190]  I use a laser cutter to laser etch this Tarsier from UNIX in a nutshell in the back of my PowerBook.
[42:48.810 --> 42:51.090]  It used to be like a $30,000 piece of equipment.
[42:51.150 --> 42:52.010]  Now there's like $10,000.
[42:52.150 --> 42:52.570]  It's $10,000.
[42:52.650 --> 42:54.450]  You can get an Epilogue Mini for $10,000.
[42:55.010 --> 42:56.150]  And it's 18 by 12.
[42:56.290 --> 42:59.770]  It can cut through wood, acrylic, vinyl, anything you want to get.
[42:59.930 --> 43:02.150]  So, I mean, you can do a lot of really cool stuff.
[43:02.290 --> 43:03.410]  And you're actually starting to see people.
[43:03.510 --> 43:05.810]  I know people are buying them and putting them in their basements.
[43:06.130 --> 43:09.870]  I mean, it's an expensive toy, but, you know, it's not more expensive than a car.
[43:09.870 --> 43:10.770]  And other examples.
[43:11.290 --> 43:12.290]  Google has Google Earth.
[43:12.490 --> 43:14.430]  And, like, it's not really clear what Google's doing, by the way.
[43:14.510 --> 43:15.110]  Like, I don't know what they're doing.
[43:15.190 --> 43:16.870]  But they keep, like, releasing some interesting things.
[43:18.010 --> 43:18.910]  So, what was that?
[43:19.050 --> 43:19.710]  The Real the World?
[43:19.790 --> 43:19.950]  Yeah.
[43:20.450 --> 43:21.290]  They do own the world.
[43:22.210 --> 43:24.190]  But there's some interesting tools that they have.
[43:24.310 --> 43:27.290]  Like, Google Earth, you can start to put your own buildings in there.
[43:27.350 --> 43:28.290]  And it's like, okay, that's interesting.
[43:28.570 --> 43:30.890]  They bought a company called SketchUp.
[43:31.030 --> 43:34.130]  And you can, it's like a really neat, rapid prototyping environment.
[43:34.130 --> 43:35.770]  And it's free on Mac and PC.
[43:35.910 --> 43:37.950]  So people are building what they're going to put in their homes.
[43:37.950 --> 43:39.470]  And they take before and after pictures.
[43:39.770 --> 43:43.270]  And we're getting to the point where, oh, wow, you can actually build an entire house.
[43:43.550 --> 43:53.430]  And once the glue, the software that will tie the electronic drawings to what the physical hardware is, you'll pull a lever and you can get the stuff delivered to you.
[43:53.730 --> 43:57.150]  All of our projects in Make, we're going to try to do a SketchUp version.
[43:57.150 --> 44:01.110]  So if you want to learn how to build, we have, like, a potato cannon, which is really fun.
[44:01.210 --> 44:03.630]  So you take a taser and a big piece of PVC pipe.
[44:03.790 --> 44:07.430]  And we're going to show how to do it, like, step-by-step via 3D.
[44:07.430 --> 44:09.330]  So you can, like, modify different pieces.
[44:09.590 --> 44:12.630]  And where it's going, this is a milling machine.
[44:13.470 --> 44:18.470]  Massive multiplayer online games like World of Warcraft and even the user-created communities of Second Life.
[44:18.670 --> 44:21.470]  There's an open source tool called Oogle or is it Ogle?
[44:21.590 --> 44:21.690]  Ogle.
[44:21.770 --> 44:22.210]  Ogle?
[44:22.330 --> 44:22.890]  Yeah, Ogle.
[44:23.030 --> 44:27.270]  And you can get the geometric shapes out of using OpenGL.
[44:27.650 --> 44:28.990]  And you can get the shapes out.
[44:29.090 --> 44:29.970]  And, like, this guy made a sheep.
[44:29.990 --> 44:32.250]  So he, like, built a sheep in the virtual world.
[44:32.250 --> 44:33.350]  That's what it looks like.
[44:33.450 --> 44:34.810]  And then he milled it out of foam.
[44:34.930 --> 44:36.970]  So there's some early indications.
[44:37.230 --> 44:41.150]  Someone built an entire city and then this is printed out on a 3D printer.
[44:41.270 --> 44:47.670]  So we're getting close to being able to get the parts to you that it won't cost as much as it does now.
[44:47.790 --> 44:51.410]  Like, it costs more sometimes to ship something from Amazon than the actual stuff or wherever.
[44:52.510 --> 44:59.810]  And that kind of leads to the future of what else out there needs to be open sourced.
[44:59.950 --> 45:07.490]  And, like, one example that I like to use is there's a really big problem with the mortality rate of infants in, like, the rest of the world.
[45:07.590 --> 45:09.990]  And the equipment... they're called baby warmers.
[45:10.110 --> 45:12.290]  The equipment out there is expensive.
[45:12.290 --> 45:13.710]  It's hard to get shipped out there.
[45:13.730 --> 45:18.250]  So a doctor came up with an inexpensive way to do it using, like, regular light bulbs.
[45:18.250 --> 45:20.450]  So she actually sketched out this design.
[45:20.670 --> 45:22.030]  And you would use regular light bulbs.
[45:22.130 --> 45:22.590]  It would dim.
[45:22.750 --> 45:24.230]  And the mortality rate cut in half.
[45:24.410 --> 45:25.890]  And so these plans are getting shared.
[45:26.050 --> 45:26.690]  They're getting distributed.
[45:26.990 --> 45:28.190]  They're using local materials.
[45:28.590 --> 45:30.850]  There's, like, there's really good reasons to do a lot of this.
[45:30.930 --> 45:33.050]  And, like, the trick is, like, how do we get people involved?
[45:33.150 --> 45:34.830]  And, like, my trick is, like, do something with an iPod.
[45:34.910 --> 45:36.610]  Because, like, everyone's like, I need to do something with my iPod.
[45:36.730 --> 45:40.670]  But, like, eventually this is something that people might start to think about with other things.
[45:40.750 --> 45:42.050]  So, like, voting machines.
[45:42.070 --> 45:43.390]  Like, why isn't this open source?
[45:43.510 --> 45:44.510]  Why isn't there paper receipts there?
[45:45.410 --> 45:47.610]  Water purification, medical equipment, public transportation.
[45:47.610 --> 45:52.510]  Like, if you think of open source hardware projects out there that would just benefit everyone.
[45:53.290 --> 45:58.190]  There's a neat project that they're deploying out in South Africa that it's a merry-go-round.
[45:58.450 --> 46:01.590]  And as kids spin around the merry-go-round, it's a water pump.
[46:01.650 --> 46:02.990]  And it pumps all the water up.
[46:03.070 --> 46:04.370]  So the kids are playing, the water gets pumped.
[46:04.450 --> 46:06.050]  And they also sell advertising on the sides.
[46:06.350 --> 46:07.410]  So there's, yeah.
[46:07.690 --> 46:08.650]  So there's things like that.
[46:08.770 --> 46:12.210]  So some resources, because we're going to open up for questions and also afterwards come up.
[46:12.210 --> 46:15.070]  Of course, Make, you know, just send me an email.
[46:15.250 --> 46:17.150]  Phil at fill at 2600.com.
[46:17.270 --> 46:20.390]  And I'll give everyone a copy, a digital copy of the first issue of Make.
[46:20.530 --> 46:21.210]  So there you go.
[46:22.010 --> 46:23.710]  Popular Science has an H2O section.
[46:23.950 --> 46:25.230]  How to 2.0, which is good.
[46:25.330 --> 46:26.150]  Of course, 2600.
[46:26.970 --> 46:27.690]  Make website.
[46:28.070 --> 46:28.430]  Hackaday.
[46:29.630 --> 46:29.990]  Instructables.
[46:30.210 --> 46:34.390]  This is one of the few places right now that's kind of wrapping a lot of this and putting it in one place.
[46:34.390 --> 46:37.270]  You can put your projects, like any project, even a software project.
[46:37.450 --> 46:38.030]  Just try it out.
[46:38.190 --> 46:39.030]  Instructables.com.
[46:39.470 --> 46:42.350]  And there's a Make group so you can see the type of projects that people are putting in there.
[46:42.570 --> 46:44.190]  Like right now, a lot of the projects are kind of weird.
[46:44.290 --> 46:45.310]  Like there's a taser glove.
[46:45.490 --> 46:47.870]  So speaking of tasers earlier, it's kind of neat.
[46:49.130 --> 46:54.150]  Flickr, if you look for tags for how to and DIY, we have a Make Flickr photo pool.
[46:54.330 --> 46:56.410]  And it's kind of like a light version of Instructables.
[46:56.490 --> 46:58.150]  Like people just put up their build photos.
[46:58.170 --> 47:00.710]  And you can see like step by step of all the things they're building.
[47:00.710 --> 47:05.410]  And SparkFun Electronics is where I sent my paycheck to, like on a regular basis.
[47:05.670 --> 47:08.050]  Like all the things you see here, like SparkFun sells.
[47:08.210 --> 47:09.150]  They have a lot of neat electronics.
[47:09.730 --> 47:12.850]  And Fidgets, that's where the RFID readers are from.
[47:13.670 --> 47:15.690]  And also the little RFID parts.
[47:15.770 --> 47:20.870]  And they also have a deal with the guy who wrote RFID Hacks, RFID Projects.
[47:21.470 --> 47:24.730]  And that's a really good book to check out too if you're into the RFID project.
[47:24.870 --> 47:26.610]  So this is Ada's information.
[47:27.170 --> 47:27.970]  This is mine.
[47:27.990 --> 47:29.710]  And I think we've got a few minutes for questions.
[47:30.270 --> 47:30.590]  Questions.
[47:30.970 --> 47:32.150]  And if there's no...
[47:32.150 --> 47:32.790]  And afterwards...
[47:32.790 --> 47:33.890]  We'll give a magazine to every person who has a question.
[47:33.990 --> 47:36.450]  Yeah, everyone who has a good question gets a copy of Make.
[47:36.770 --> 47:37.430]  Good questions.
[47:37.770 --> 47:39.310]  Get a copy of the latest issue of Make.
[47:39.530 --> 47:39.730]  Yeah.
[47:40.110 --> 47:40.830]  So ask a good question.
[47:41.330 --> 47:41.650]  So...
[47:43.290 --> 47:44.670]  Yeah, I'll put that right there.
[47:47.030 --> 47:47.590]  There you go.
[47:47.770 --> 47:48.950]  Yeah, we'll just flip between them really fast.
[47:49.110 --> 47:49.890]  It's like you get the dual vision.
[47:49.890 --> 47:50.530]  It's like a strobe.
[47:52.690 --> 47:53.810]  Like left eye, right eye.
[47:54.210 --> 47:54.370]  Yeah.
[47:54.370 --> 47:54.450]  Yeah.
[47:55.830 --> 47:56.270]  All right.
[47:56.390 --> 47:57.090]  So, questions?
[47:57.370 --> 47:57.730]  Questions.
[47:58.050 --> 47:58.630]  We've got a few minutes.
[47:58.790 --> 47:59.110]  Questions.
[47:59.950 --> 48:00.570]  I've got one.
[48:00.810 --> 48:02.690]  Or if you have good ideas for open source hardware projects.
[48:02.870 --> 48:03.050]  Yeah.
[48:03.410 --> 48:04.090]  Either or.
[48:04.490 --> 48:06.650]  Yeah, I'm actually in the process of doing a couple.
[48:06.890 --> 48:08.630]  And somebody donated some space to me.
[48:08.750 --> 48:10.610]  And I took all the junk computers and stuff.
[48:10.730 --> 48:12.790]  And I've got some kids that I'm actually doing this.
[48:13.550 --> 48:16.230]  And I was getting discouraged by the miniaturization.
[48:16.550 --> 48:17.730]  Because there's so much hardware.
[48:18.170 --> 48:18.910]  So this is great.
[48:19.110 --> 48:24.290]  Because there's extra information I didn't have about how to hack things that are almost, you know, surface mount kind of thing.
[48:24.470 --> 48:24.770]  So that's good.
[48:24.810 --> 48:26.690]  Well, what's really neat is like, yeah, stuff is getting small.
[48:26.870 --> 48:29.630]  It's getting miniaturized because the technology allows for it.
[48:29.710 --> 48:37.650]  But on the other hand, I think even SparkFun has a kit for temperature controlling a Black & Decker reflow, a Black & Decker reflow oven.
[48:37.750 --> 48:38.510]  Like you get a toaster oven.
[48:38.510 --> 48:41.750]  And they have a little kit that allows you to temperature control it and do a reflow.
[48:41.870 --> 48:44.590]  So you can get like a $5,000 reflow oven in your kitchen.
[48:44.690 --> 48:45.890]  Just don't eat that because it's lead.
[48:46.090 --> 48:48.730]  But you can use that to like desolder chips.
[48:48.910 --> 48:50.970]  And again, you know, like John used something similar.
[48:51.090 --> 48:52.230]  I mean, there's technologies out there.
[48:52.390 --> 48:54.050]  And again, with the Internet, it's easier to find them.
[48:54.330 --> 48:54.490]  Right.
[48:54.510 --> 48:59.850]  But actually, my question was going to be, what's the best way to find people in my area?
[48:59.910 --> 49:03.990]  Because I'm hooking up with, of course, the Internet's great and make and all of that.
[49:04.550 --> 49:07.770]  Is there a venue for like finding out who's close to you?
[49:07.770 --> 49:08.350]  Yeah.
[49:08.350 --> 49:10.930]  Because I'm in the Research Triangle Park area in North Carolina.
[49:11.230 --> 49:11.530]  What I...
[49:12.050 --> 49:14.390]  I know a lot of people that are hundreds of miles away from you.
[49:14.510 --> 49:16.550]  I don't know a lot of people that are within 30 miles.
[49:16.690 --> 49:16.870]  Yeah.
[49:17.010 --> 49:23.770]  What I tend to suggest is go to Flickr, of course, and just post up a project with a bunch of tags because you can put your location.
[49:23.990 --> 49:25.590]  Go to Instructables, put your location.
[49:25.870 --> 49:27.010]  And these groups are self-forming.
[49:27.010 --> 49:29.550]  The Make Forums, there's always a call for makers.
[49:29.810 --> 49:32.270]  Like, people say like, hey, I'm in Indiana or whatever.
[49:33.330 --> 49:35.290]  I'm looking to do a project with someone.
[49:35.410 --> 49:37.970]  And like, it's like Matchmaker, but not really.
[49:38.090 --> 49:38.570]  Like, they're not dating.
[49:38.670 --> 49:39.610]  Okay, so you can search on address.
[49:39.850 --> 49:40.070]  Yeah.
[49:40.290 --> 49:40.470]  Okay.
[49:40.630 --> 49:40.830]  Yeah.
[49:40.950 --> 49:42.750]  And like ham radio groups too, maybe.
[49:43.070 --> 49:46.670]  And like upcoming.org, there's like, there's events in like a lot of areas.
[49:46.890 --> 49:51.410]  And we also have an event listing on Make that we try to put out there.
[49:51.410 --> 49:53.150]  And everyone can send in everything.
[49:53.310 --> 49:55.610]  So put your event in there too, or even if it's just a meeting.
[49:55.830 --> 49:56.270]  Right.
[49:57.010 --> 49:57.410]  Okay.
[49:57.830 --> 49:58.030]  Great.
[50:00.050 --> 50:00.490]  Hi.
[50:01.790 --> 50:03.810]  You talk a lot about open source hardware.
[50:04.710 --> 50:06.790]  How does that relate to patents?
[50:06.990 --> 50:11.070]  And how would you protect your open source hardware from being patented by somebody else?
[50:11.350 --> 50:14.410]  You can't patent something that's been released into the public domain.
[50:14.590 --> 50:15.230]  That's just...
[50:15.230 --> 50:22.210]  I mean, if you look at the way the patent system works, once you've released something, I mean, they could and you'd have to fight it in court, which is unfortunate.
[50:22.450 --> 50:25.730]  But same thing happens with open source software.
[50:26.250 --> 50:29.110]  You know, Linksys had to be, I think they had to be convinced to release it.
[50:29.610 --> 50:31.730]  But you can't patent stuff that's been open sourced.
[50:32.250 --> 50:33.290]  I mean, that's fine.
[50:33.590 --> 50:34.890]  You know, that's the trade off.
[50:35.170 --> 50:35.530]  Creative Commons.
[50:35.690 --> 50:36.930]  You could publish it in the Gazette, right?
[50:37.530 --> 50:38.550]  For 50 bucks.
[50:39.450 --> 50:42.170]  The patent office has a Gazette that you can publish things in.
[50:42.290 --> 50:42.590]  Sure.
[50:43.050 --> 50:43.430]  You can do that.
[50:43.430 --> 50:44.130]  That would...
[50:44.130 --> 50:44.750]  You can publish it anywhere.
[50:44.910 --> 50:45.890]  You can publish it anywhere.
[50:45.890 --> 50:46.610]  I just put it online.
[50:47.010 --> 50:48.810]  You just have to show prior art.
[50:49.010 --> 50:50.570]  But then you might have to defend it in court.
[50:51.010 --> 50:52.430]  You have to defend it in court no matter what.
[50:53.470 --> 50:53.850]  Okay.
[50:53.950 --> 50:54.150]  Yeah.
[50:55.210 --> 50:56.050]  It doesn't matter where it goes.
[50:56.210 --> 50:56.670]  That's good.
[50:56.670 --> 50:58.290]  Are you familiar with the RepRap project?
[50:58.750 --> 50:59.010]  Yeah.
[50:59.190 --> 51:00.190]  Yeah, it's cool stuff.
[51:00.510 --> 51:03.830]  And is that already covered by patents?
[51:04.130 --> 51:04.790]  Existing patents?
[51:05.070 --> 51:06.510]  I don't know offhand.
[51:06.610 --> 51:08.010]  You'll have to look into it.
[51:08.130 --> 51:08.590]  I'm sorry.
[51:08.670 --> 51:09.750]  I have no clue either.
[51:10.070 --> 51:10.250]  Yeah.
[51:10.370 --> 51:10.870]  Ask him.
[51:11.790 --> 51:12.230]  Thank you.
[51:12.370 --> 51:12.410]  Sorry.
[51:15.470 --> 51:22.970]  I'm real curious if you guys have made any attempts to connect with free energy device creators and different inventors.
[51:23.190 --> 51:28.710]  I'm going to the Tesla Tech Convention, which is coming up in a week or so.
[51:28.710 --> 51:46.310]  And I was wondering if there's a resource that I could use to try and convincingly promote open sourcing their hardware and their devices before the website crashes, the MIB visit them, and all of a sudden the technology disappears.
[51:46.590 --> 51:50.990]  I think they should open source it because there's a lot of skeptics, of course, about free energy because it's never free.
[51:52.550 --> 51:53.890]  So they should really...
[51:53.890 --> 51:53.990]  Yeah.
[51:54.150 --> 51:54.650]  I mean, absolutely.
[51:54.910 --> 51:59.290]  Like, they should post up an Instructable or, like, you know, a how-to on Flickr or something.
[51:59.570 --> 52:04.350]  But as far as convincing them, there's just a ton of benefits.
[52:04.530 --> 52:15.350]  I think because, like, we get a lot of emails and we might do an issue that kind of looks at some of these free energy ideas and concepts and, like, you know, how it works and how it doesn't work or, like, all the... and everything in between.
[52:15.710 --> 52:16.690]  So have them email me.
[52:16.830 --> 52:20.010]  I mean, like, we're going to be covering this on Make early next year.
[52:20.710 --> 52:23.610]  So I would have them email you at the same address you gave?
[52:23.730 --> 52:24.290]  Yeah, that's fine.
[52:24.670 --> 52:25.190]  That's fine.
[52:25.290 --> 52:27.150]  But, yeah, they definitely should open source their ideas.
[52:27.690 --> 52:27.970]  Okay.
[52:28.310 --> 52:28.670]  Thanks.
[52:31.590 --> 52:32.150]  How's it going?
[52:32.650 --> 52:32.910]  Yo.
[52:34.190 --> 52:36.810]  Not really a question, just a kind of a comment.
[52:37.470 --> 52:42.430]  I've been playing with a lot of this stuff for, you know, like, pick chips, things like that, all these projects.
[52:43.410 --> 52:48.090]  A real good source for all these old electronics are old Ham Radio Fest.
[52:48.330 --> 52:49.010]  Oh, yeah, totally.
[52:49.410 --> 52:49.750]  Definitely.
[52:50.370 --> 52:54.350]  ARRL.org, they have a list of, you know, times, dates, places, all this.
[52:55.130 --> 53:00.690]  And, you know, you're knee-deep in old video recorders and camcorders and stuff, so...
[53:00.690 --> 53:01.870]  Yeah, like the Dayton Ham Fest.
[53:01.970 --> 53:02.210]  Definitely.
[53:02.450 --> 53:04.850]  I mean, Ham Radio, like, they've done all this stuff already.
[53:04.890 --> 53:06.090]  We're just expanding it.
[53:06.170 --> 53:09.010]  I mean, this is all... if you've done Ham Radio, this is all old to you.
[53:09.070 --> 53:10.730]  You're like, oh, yeah, I did that, did that, did that.
[53:10.730 --> 53:15.930]  I mean, it's true, but we're just trying to create a larger community.
[53:16.130 --> 53:20.110]  So, yeah, go to Ham Radio Fest and meet people there and get parts for, like, super cheap.
[53:20.490 --> 53:20.870]  Yeah.
[53:21.130 --> 53:22.350]  Model train guys, too.
[53:22.470 --> 53:23.290]  They make their own printed...
[53:23.290 --> 53:23.470]  Yeah.
[53:23.730 --> 53:25.270]  They're like the best printed circuit board guys.
[53:25.570 --> 53:25.810]  Definitely.
[53:26.290 --> 53:26.750]  Who would have thought?
[53:27.790 --> 53:28.330]  That's all.
[53:28.610 --> 53:28.770]  Cool.
[53:29.950 --> 53:30.350]  Thanks.
[53:30.830 --> 53:31.190]  Hi.
[53:31.610 --> 53:31.730]  Hey.
[53:32.190 --> 53:34.210]  Do you guys receive submissions?
[53:34.270 --> 53:37.710]  Like, if I have a project that I'm currently working on, I can just submit it?
[53:37.850 --> 53:38.050]  Yeah, sure.
[53:38.050 --> 53:39.530]  Because I'm actually building something...
[53:39.530 --> 53:44.910]  I've been building a lot of guitar effects and things of this sort.
[53:44.910 --> 53:44.930]  Yeah.
[53:44.930 --> 53:45.450]  People love that stuff.
[53:45.650 --> 53:47.510]  There's communities for people who do that.
[53:47.670 --> 53:48.150]  Yeah, it's great.
[53:48.430 --> 53:52.210]  Musicians are like the new Ham Radio hackers of this decade, definitely.
[53:52.710 --> 53:52.930]  Cool.
[53:53.010 --> 53:53.150]  Thank you.
[53:53.210 --> 53:53.590]  Yep, send an email.
[53:53.590 --> 53:54.490]  And we pay, too.
[53:56.090 --> 53:56.490]  Hi.
[53:56.970 --> 54:09.350]  When trying to get information from manufacturers regarding hardware and how to access it, one of the common excuses or reasons they give, especially in anything RF related, is that they implement regulatory compliance in software.
[54:09.350 --> 54:14.710]  And if they open that, everybody would be in regulatory violation and then it would be a mess and they would be liable.
[54:14.890 --> 54:15.130]  Yeah.
[54:15.150 --> 54:18.170]  Do you have any comment on that kind of thing or ways it's been dealt with?
[54:18.310 --> 54:19.850]  Well, I can only give examples...
[54:19.850 --> 54:20.790]  Oh, we have to stop right now.
[54:20.870 --> 54:21.150]  We gotta go.
[54:21.250 --> 54:21.590]  We gotta go.
[54:21.590 --> 54:23.410]  The only example that I can give real quick is Roomba.
[54:23.570 --> 54:26.830]  Like, once you mod this and everything, it could push your grandma down the stairs.
[54:27.890 --> 54:29.450]  And so it's like, it's really new.
[54:29.650 --> 54:30.210]  Like, who knows?
[54:30.450 --> 54:33.690]  Like, you violate the three laws of robotics once you do that.
[54:33.750 --> 54:34.190]  Lie to them?
[54:34.490 --> 54:36.090]  Like, tell them you're a student and you need it.
[54:36.150 --> 54:37.210]  I mean, like, make a...
[54:37.210 --> 54:37.850]  I mean, you're a hacker.
[54:37.990 --> 54:38.850]  Social engineer it, right?
[54:39.270 --> 54:39.590]  Yeah.
[54:39.790 --> 54:39.970]  Good.
[54:40.290 --> 54:40.470]  Okay.
[54:41.010 --> 54:41.430]  Thank you.
[54:41.630 --> 54:41.850]  Thanks.
[54:41.850 --> 54:42.030]  you guys.
[54:42.170 --> 54:42.190]  Thanks.
[54:42.190 --> 54:42.230]  Thanks.