[00:01.400 --> 00:02.140] Hi, everyone. [00:11.220 --> 00:15.320] The big problem was that slide said July 17th, up until a few seconds ago. [00:16.620 --> 00:18.740] Nobody gets it right, not even us. [00:19.420 --> 00:20.800] That took a while to figure out how to do it. [00:21.540 --> 00:26.040] Yeah, every talk started on time except this one, so I guess it's time to finish. [00:26.920 --> 00:29.340] Thank you, everybody, for being here this weekend. [00:29.340 --> 00:30.580] It was a magical time. [00:30.580 --> 00:32.600] We've heard nothing but good things. [00:32.740 --> 00:37.220] So many people met new people and saw incredibly interesting, diverse talks. [00:37.620 --> 00:42.660] And I sincerely hope we can do this again next year and make an annual event. [00:43.420 --> 00:44.540] Maybe not so late. [00:44.540 --> 00:45.920] This is the latest hope ever. [00:46.200 --> 00:49.840] The first hope was August 13th and 14th, 1994. [00:50.660 --> 00:53.400] And since then, it's either been early August or July. [00:53.800 --> 00:56.760] And this one, August 17th, is the latest it's been. [00:56.880 --> 00:59.160] So I don't think we can get that late again. [01:00.220 --> 01:05.300] But I just want to thank everybody for making the conference such a success. [01:06.400 --> 01:07.680] This place is incredible. [01:08.260 --> 01:11.340] St. John's University is an amazing campus, so much space. [01:11.840 --> 01:13.140] And they love us, too. [01:13.300 --> 01:16.020] Believe it or not, they say we're the best crowd they have. [01:22.820 --> 01:24.260] And that's all you guys. [01:24.420 --> 01:28.280] You guys being polite, considerate, and friendly. [01:28.280 --> 01:32.760] And it's just such a good tone to set for the whole hacker community. [01:33.600 --> 01:37.720] I want to thank everybody who put in so much effort and time. [01:37.840 --> 01:39.860] The AV crew, my God, Jolie. [01:40.220 --> 01:42.260] And, of course, our security team. [01:42.400 --> 01:45.360] Our volunteers are going to hear from a bunch of them here. [01:45.480 --> 01:49.440] And we would love for you to join us in helping to organize the next one. [01:49.980 --> 01:54.960] HOPE at HOPE.net is an address you can use to become a part of the HOPE family. [01:55.680 --> 02:04.100] Feedback at HOPE.net to let us know what you think about what happened this weekend, what we can do better, what you liked, that sort of stuff. [02:05.460 --> 02:09.500] A lot to... I'm kind of out of it myself. [02:09.700 --> 02:12.260] But what we're going to do now is go to The Knock. [02:12.600 --> 02:15.420] And they're going to give some interesting highlights. [02:15.420 --> 02:21.480] And then you'll hear from some people here, including a good friend of ours who couldn't be here this year. [02:22.200 --> 02:23.400] So I'll turn it over to The Knock. [02:34.110 --> 02:34.450] Hey, everybody. [02:36.290 --> 02:36.890] Let's see. [02:37.090 --> 02:38.050] Am I going to get some slides? [02:38.210 --> 02:39.890] You guys have, like, moved it over to... [02:39.890 --> 02:40.170] Oh, it's going. [02:42.150 --> 02:42.910] There we go. [02:43.110 --> 02:43.270] Woo! [02:45.130 --> 02:45.530] So... [02:46.550 --> 02:47.790] I'm Alex with The Knock. [02:48.510 --> 02:51.030] So we definitely saw what you did there. [02:51.550 --> 02:53.390] And the network remembers everything. [02:55.490 --> 03:00.250] So our mission in The Knock is to provide open, fast, and watched network connectivity. [03:00.510 --> 03:03.230] We see your sins, but we let them happen anyway. [03:05.470 --> 03:06.930] Some of the real numbers. [03:07.090 --> 03:09.590] So we had just under 1,700 devices. [03:09.590 --> 03:12.970] It's probably jumped over this since around 2 o'clock today. [03:13.570 --> 03:19.530] Y'all visited 104 countries via 200-plus unique AS numbers. [03:19.850 --> 03:22.710] And we detected 847 network anomalies. [03:22.710 --> 03:25.890] So overall, you guys didn't do too bad of a job. [03:28.190 --> 03:33.530] So in terms of the traffic stats, we did just over 2.5 terabytes of data transfer. [03:34.810 --> 03:37.770] And about 600 gigs of that was internal. [03:37.770 --> 03:41.950] The rest going out with about 3.7 billion packets processed. [03:43.510 --> 03:47.690] I just wanted to do a quick comparison of HOPE against DEF CON. [03:58.700 --> 04:02.480] Y'all definitely pushed more bandwidth at HOPE than DEF CON. [04:02.660 --> 04:05.080] And we had the capacity to pull it off. [04:05.280 --> 04:07.180] So good job. [04:09.120 --> 04:10.800] The packet sniffers on the crew. [04:11.040 --> 04:16.060] So Alex, myself, James and Jesse were the core team behind the NOC. [04:16.180 --> 04:23.800] But we had many, many volunteers drop by this year, which was really appreciated to help crimp cables in preparation for next year's conference. [04:24.140 --> 04:27.340] Since a lot of our cabling was damaged due to water damage. [04:27.340 --> 04:29.860] We were hiding in Tobin 211. [04:30.080 --> 04:35.120] So we had plenty of FBI sandwiches, donuts, and shot glasses waiting for you guys. [04:36.520 --> 04:39.360] The secure infrastructure that we were running this year. [04:40.540 --> 04:42.420] I would love to call it a honeypot. [04:42.780 --> 04:46.500] But you could have cracked the password in about 0.3 seconds. [04:47.500 --> 04:48.240] Good stuff. [04:51.080 --> 04:52.860] The network architecture. [04:53.380 --> 04:56.740] So we had a 10 gig handoff from the university. [04:56.740 --> 04:58.320] They're really wonderful to work with. [04:58.560 --> 05:04.940] We terminated that onto a Cisco switch within the NOC, which then went into a FortiGate 90G. [05:05.280 --> 05:07.020] It was just monitoring the traffic. [05:07.180 --> 05:08.180] We weren't blocking anything. [05:08.580 --> 05:12.440] We then had a wired VLAN for all of the AV teams. [05:12.680 --> 05:15.280] And then obviously the wireless network for you all. [05:17.200 --> 05:19.400] It's what the hardware stack looked like in the NOC. [05:19.520 --> 05:20.580] Very small footprint. [05:20.820 --> 05:23.540] I was able to fit it in my backpack and bring it along. [05:23.740 --> 05:25.660] So not too much. [05:26.020 --> 05:30.640] We were able to leverage all of their wireless connectivity infrastructure that they have on campus. [05:31.040 --> 05:35.140] So really a great effort on the part of the local IT team. [05:37.080 --> 05:38.800] So in terms of what that looked like. [05:38.980 --> 05:41.340] So we had 10 gigs delivered via CAT 6A. [05:41.340 --> 05:44.680] Again, to a Cisco 3560CX. [05:44.840 --> 05:46.280] Went into a FortiGate 90G. [05:46.580 --> 05:51.120] We were doing NetFlow analysis this time, which is new at St. John's. [05:51.380 --> 05:56.480] So we were forwarding that off to FortiMonitor and actually reviewing all of those logs. [05:56.840 --> 06:04.440] We only had one outage as a result of trying to actually deliver uninterruptible power to the network. [06:05.460 --> 06:07.200] Caused more of an outage than it saved. [06:07.200 --> 06:15.440] So we built a real-time dashboard to feed information to you all about what was going on in the network this time. [06:15.600 --> 06:19.180] So we utilized automation triggers in FortiOS. [06:19.540 --> 06:22.040] We sent hourly updates to the NOC website. [06:22.340 --> 06:26.640] So it automatically parsed out DHCP leases bandwidth threats. [06:27.420 --> 06:29.180] Again, we weren't blocking anything. [06:29.180 --> 06:32.740] So we were just giving statistics around what we were seeing. [06:34.700 --> 06:35.860] The Hall of Shame. [06:36.340 --> 06:38.700] So y'all need something and a firewall. [06:39.140 --> 06:44.060] We had 47 devices beaconing to China every 30 seconds. [06:45.600 --> 06:52.680] We detected T-Syndicate, which is not great software, running on one device. [06:52.680 --> 06:56.340] So if that IP address is yours, seriously do something about it. [06:58.400 --> 07:02.160] We had 12 people using password123 for SSH. [07:09.610 --> 07:11.810] Multiple bot infections phoning home. [07:12.150 --> 07:16.550] And about 14 people tried to ARP poison the default gateway. [07:16.830 --> 07:17.550] So great job. [07:20.230 --> 07:22.650] The Hall of Fame for host names. [07:27.440 --> 07:29.180] Do you want to read a few of your favorites? [07:29.180 --> 07:30.420] A few of my favorites. [07:30.620 --> 07:32.060] I mean, Deez Nuts is back this year. [07:32.420 --> 07:32.900] So... [07:32.900 --> 07:33.680] Yeah. [07:34.240 --> 07:35.980] We had some really good ones in there. [07:36.100 --> 07:37.040] Anonymous, obviously. [07:37.640 --> 07:38.440] Mega Frame. [07:38.680 --> 07:39.640] Big packets only. [07:41.560 --> 07:42.740] Some awkward truths. [07:42.960 --> 07:46.900] So we built that fancy dashboard and provided the real-time data throughout HOPE. [07:47.400 --> 07:49.640] Only 43 of you actually bothered to visit. [07:49.980 --> 07:51.620] A lot of you tried to hack it. [07:51.820 --> 07:53.300] But it's literally PHP. [07:53.920 --> 07:55.800] So save your zero days, please. [07:58.300 --> 08:01.040] Some of the potentially unwanted apps that we detected. [08:01.360 --> 08:03.060] So obviously, T-Syndicate was a big one. [08:03.280 --> 08:06.180] We had five hits on that, on that IP address. [08:06.500 --> 08:08.660] But it was also the most infected device. [08:08.660 --> 08:10.700] It had multiple pieces of PUA on it. [08:10.840 --> 08:11.800] So again... [08:17.070 --> 08:19.210] How you bypassed our monitoring this year. [08:19.410 --> 08:22.990] So we saw a significant portion of traffic actually using VPNs. [08:23.090 --> 08:24.450] So very good job there. [08:28.200 --> 08:31.220] Sending some traffic to some interesting places around the world. [08:31.800 --> 08:34.680] Definitely a lot to China in terms of those callbacks. [08:35.540 --> 08:36.400] But yeah. [08:36.580 --> 08:38.320] I think NSA has entered the chat. [08:41.900 --> 08:44.640] Definitely some traffic to bulletproof hosting providers. [08:45.000 --> 08:46.680] And some suspicious ASNs. [08:47.160 --> 08:49.040] Obviously a lot of that being VPN. [08:49.660 --> 08:52.200] But definitely some interesting destinations. [08:53.160 --> 08:55.460] We detected 847 anomalies. [08:55.940 --> 08:57.860] We had 712 UDP floods. [08:58.300 --> 09:01.040] A bunch of WireGuard interesting traffic. [09:02.060 --> 09:05.200] And ironically, NFS going out directly to the Internet. [09:07.000 --> 09:08.420] It pushed about 10... [09:08.760 --> 09:11.080] Over 10 gigabytes of Kerberos traffic. [09:11.440 --> 09:13.000] And 10 gigabytes of ICMP. [09:13.260 --> 09:13.800] Y'all are wild. [09:19.980 --> 09:22.160] We did get an external complaint this year. [09:22.540 --> 09:24.420] So we had some drama on the network. [09:24.980 --> 09:27.520] Somebody said that we were attacking DNS servers. [09:27.600 --> 09:30.320] And our response was send PCAPs or it didn't happen. [09:32.640 --> 09:34.780] We found no evidence of this attack, by the way. [09:34.780 --> 09:35.340] So... [09:37.480 --> 09:38.240] Yeah. [09:38.420 --> 09:40.200] So I mentioned the countries. [09:40.480 --> 09:40.960] So... [09:41.500 --> 09:43.160] 104 countries connected. [09:44.580 --> 09:46.420] What year traffic revealed. [09:46.620 --> 09:51.640] So 32% of the traffic was still using unencrypted HTTP in 2025. [09:54.520 --> 09:56.680] 14 people were logging into banks. [09:57.020 --> 09:58.540] Some were still using IRC. [09:58.880 --> 09:58.940] Respect. [09:59.700 --> 10:04.100] We had some failed attempts to download totallynotmalware.exe. [10:06.080 --> 10:08.700] Some debugging console logs over HTTP. [10:09.300 --> 10:11.100] And people are still playing Doom. [10:11.240 --> 10:11.600] That's cool. [10:14.140 --> 10:16.320] What hackers really care about. [10:19.240 --> 10:19.780] Yeah. [10:19.980 --> 10:21.680] We definitely had some after dark traffic. [10:24.480 --> 10:25.640] Bandwidth Hall of Fame. [10:25.940 --> 10:29.880] So whoever's at .149, he pushed 103 gigabytes. [10:29.880 --> 10:31.380] So that was... [10:31.380 --> 10:32.260] What was that? [10:32.380 --> 10:33.920] 120 million packets. [10:34.160 --> 10:34.460] Great job. [10:35.280 --> 10:37.900] Were you turning the entire Library of Congress? [10:39.440 --> 10:40.540] Probably left before. [10:40.740 --> 10:41.140] Yeah. [10:41.400 --> 10:41.680] Probably. [10:43.440 --> 10:44.000] So... [10:44.000 --> 10:45.180] Just to summarize. [10:45.480 --> 10:45.960] So... [10:45.960 --> 10:47.040] The services we provided. [10:47.200 --> 10:48.640] The high-speed Wi-Fi when it worked. [10:49.420 --> 10:50.440] IPv6 is a myth. [10:50.480 --> 10:51.940] So we only provided IPv4. [10:52.580 --> 10:56.560] We resolved some DNS traffic to wherever we wanted it to go. [10:56.560 --> 11:00.480] And, you know, we had that firewall in monitor mode. [11:00.480 --> 11:02.160] So see evil and allow evil. [11:03.520 --> 11:04.100] Yeah. [11:04.500 --> 11:05.480] You're on your own. [11:06.480 --> 11:07.920] Some stuff that went wrong. [11:08.080 --> 11:11.860] So we had, again, 1,700 IPs divvied out. [11:13.040 --> 11:15.380] 847 is this normal moments. [11:16.060 --> 11:18.900] We had two volunteers quit cable crimping. [11:18.900 --> 11:20.140] Because it's really hard. [11:21.420 --> 11:21.760] Yeah. [11:21.980 --> 11:23.100] We drank a lot of coffee, too. [11:24.560 --> 11:26.040] The NOC was protected this year. [11:26.240 --> 11:30.000] We had 24-7 audiovisual surveillance. [11:30.480 --> 11:33.120] As well as St. John's public safety team. [11:33.340 --> 11:35.020] We locked the doors. [11:36.140 --> 11:37.260] And magic. [11:37.400 --> 11:38.100] People didn't get in. [11:38.240 --> 11:38.660] It's great. [11:38.980 --> 11:42.120] We did have some after-hours visitors detected, though. [11:44.300 --> 11:45.280] Bandwidth consumption. [11:45.280 --> 11:48.620] So on the wireless, we peaked at 1.2 gigabits a second. [11:48.920 --> 11:51.040] In the wired, we were just under a gig. [11:51.380 --> 11:52.220] So pretty solid. [11:52.860 --> 11:54.320] Normal conference patterns. [11:55.640 --> 12:00.200] And I want to give a special thanks to the St. John's University IT team. [12:00.380 --> 12:01.680] Their public safety team. [12:02.140 --> 12:04.240] Without them, we couldn't do it. [12:08.010 --> 12:11.630] As well as to Fortinet that sponsored the firewall. [12:11.630 --> 12:15.970] And to Excelex for a lot of our analysis infrastructure. [12:17.190 --> 12:17.830] Yeah. [12:18.190 --> 12:18.830] So... [12:23.900 --> 12:28.080] So what we really accomplished this year was pretty solid uptime. [12:29.440 --> 12:32.020] We built a bridge to Beijing unintentionally. [12:32.200 --> 12:34.460] We became an unwitting CT relay station. [12:34.780 --> 12:38.640] We discovered many of you really have a desperate need for security training. [12:39.860 --> 12:41.760] We had a lot of fun reading your packets. [12:41.760 --> 12:45.140] And we made friends with T-Syndicate, which wasn't our choice. [12:47.440 --> 12:47.840] So... [12:47.840 --> 12:49.620] Network will self-destruct after this message. [12:50.300 --> 12:51.920] But seriously, check your systems. [12:52.280 --> 12:54.480] And if you're around, please help us with teardown. [13:09.740 --> 13:11.840] Did you want to introduce... [13:14.810 --> 13:16.430] Just some mild technical stuff? [13:16.550 --> 13:16.850] Don't worry. [13:17.090 --> 13:17.570] Close your eyes. [13:17.650 --> 13:18.350] It'll be over in a second. [13:19.790 --> 13:20.910] That's a really... [13:20.910 --> 13:21.110] I'm sorry. [13:22.630 --> 13:23.150] Okay. [13:28.360 --> 13:29.640] Okay, we're just... [13:29.640 --> 13:30.700] Starting up there. [13:31.300 --> 13:32.060] Slides again. [13:33.660 --> 13:34.560] Did it break? [13:37.930 --> 13:38.750] Sorry, everyone. [13:39.630 --> 13:41.470] All the ones... [13:42.050 --> 13:43.370] I'm a professional, I swear. [13:43.490 --> 13:44.530] I do this for money. [13:45.110 --> 13:45.590] Professional. [13:45.670 --> 13:45.850] Okay. [13:47.470 --> 13:49.330] Oh, we went too far. [13:49.470 --> 13:49.770] Sorry. [13:50.570 --> 13:51.210] Alright, so... [13:51.890 --> 13:52.470] Oh, E? [13:52.750 --> 13:54.190] Do you want to introduce? [13:54.970 --> 13:55.490] E? [13:57.450 --> 13:57.930] Well... [13:59.770 --> 14:01.390] Do you want me to talk? [14:01.630 --> 14:02.090] Or... [14:02.090 --> 14:03.630] Oh, okay. [14:03.870 --> 14:07.150] So, do you want to do our friend who's joining us remotely? [14:07.430 --> 14:07.690] Yeah, sure. [14:08.010 --> 14:08.190] Okay. [14:08.670 --> 14:17.510] So, many of you have asked us, both at the info desk and at security, where Greg Newby was this year. [14:17.630 --> 14:19.410] Unfortunately, he is... [14:19.410 --> 14:22.010] Well, he is here now, attending remotely. [14:22.950 --> 14:26.270] But we have him here to just say some nice words. [14:26.550 --> 14:28.210] Let me just try to get him over. [14:28.370 --> 14:29.890] This is really complicated, guys. [14:31.970 --> 14:32.110] Okay. [14:32.730 --> 14:33.710] This shit is hard. [14:33.730 --> 14:33.890] I swear. [14:34.130 --> 14:36.310] I'm a computer professional, really. [14:36.810 --> 14:37.970] Everyone say hi to Greg. [14:44.800 --> 14:52.620] That is Greg Newby, who actually is the guy responsible for finding St. John's when the hotel looked doomed. [14:53.300 --> 14:56.960] He is somebody that we could not have done this without. [14:57.760 --> 14:58.600] He is on mute. [14:58.680 --> 14:59.320] He is on mute. [14:59.380 --> 14:59.700] Apparently... [14:59.700 --> 15:00.700] Well, it's a good thing he is on mute, isn't it? [15:00.840 --> 15:01.240] Oh, and... [15:01.240 --> 15:02.060] They are talking over each other. [15:03.080 --> 15:03.420] Oh, no. [15:03.580 --> 15:04.000] I'm plugged in. [15:04.120 --> 15:04.740] Can you hear me? [15:04.960 --> 15:06.340] Greg, can you unmute yourself? [15:06.960 --> 15:07.220] Yeah. [15:07.820 --> 15:08.980] I'm taking the cable out. [15:09.260 --> 15:10.540] So, three, two, one. [15:11.480 --> 15:12.260] So, there you go. [15:12.760 --> 15:19.780] He is in Whitehorse, in Yukon, and unfortunately he can't join us. [15:20.140 --> 15:20.600] Here we go. [15:21.640 --> 15:21.800] Okay. [15:21.960 --> 15:22.660] Greg, can you hear us? [15:23.620 --> 15:24.500] Greg, can you hear me? [15:24.600 --> 15:24.740] Yes. [15:24.740 --> 15:25.520] Nod yes or no. [15:26.900 --> 15:27.560] He can hear? [15:27.720 --> 15:28.040] Okay. [15:28.200 --> 15:29.540] I have it plugged in, A.V. [15:29.560 --> 15:30.780] I don't know what I'm doing wrong. [15:31.360 --> 15:32.100] So, audio is the next one. [15:32.100 --> 15:32.460] Can you patch him through? [15:34.480 --> 15:35.880] Greg, just unmute yourself. [15:36.260 --> 15:37.100] Are you unmuted? [15:37.840 --> 15:38.640] You're not muted. [15:38.900 --> 15:40.300] I'm really good at reading lips. [15:40.640 --> 15:41.420] You're not muted. [15:41.740 --> 15:41.960] Okay. [15:42.020 --> 15:43.100] I see a thing that says mute mic. [15:43.100 --> 15:43.400] Yeah. [15:43.740 --> 15:44.480] A.V., I need help. [15:44.600 --> 15:45.120] I'm sorry. [15:46.600 --> 15:47.000] Oh. [15:47.280 --> 15:48.400] I thought we tested this. [15:48.480 --> 15:48.680] Oh. [15:50.520 --> 15:51.800] Maybe, maybe it's me. [15:52.460 --> 15:53.920] Greg, how about now? [15:54.580 --> 15:54.980] Hi. [15:56.940 --> 15:57.380] Karen. [15:58.800 --> 15:59.520] Can I... [15:59.520 --> 15:59.960] I need... [16:01.920 --> 16:04.120] We just did, we just did a panel. [16:04.140 --> 16:04.980] Yeah, that volume's up fast. [16:04.980 --> 16:06.300] The same way, so it should work. [16:07.500 --> 16:07.940] Okay. [16:08.620 --> 16:10.900] I see the camera, my mic's not muted. [16:11.340 --> 16:11.560] No. [16:12.140 --> 16:13.440] Because your volume turned up. [16:14.760 --> 16:15.320] Do you feel headphones? [16:15.540 --> 16:16.300] That's fine, that's fine. [16:16.800 --> 16:17.280] Yeah, speakers. [16:17.920 --> 16:18.340] Speakers? [16:18.620 --> 16:18.740] Okay. [16:18.840 --> 16:19.360] Yeah, go back. [16:19.480 --> 16:19.680] Greg. [16:20.260 --> 16:20.760] Okay, speakers. [16:21.160 --> 16:22.100] Oh, it's doing my splitter. [16:22.500 --> 16:23.100] There you go. [16:23.280 --> 16:23.700] Greg, say hi. [16:25.780 --> 16:26.000] No. [16:26.600 --> 16:27.320] Split, no, no, no. [16:27.420 --> 16:28.120] It's because it's good. [16:28.360 --> 16:28.860] X it out. [16:29.200 --> 16:29.580] X it out. [16:29.740 --> 16:29.780] Yeah. [16:31.360 --> 16:32.540] You have to close it. [16:33.620 --> 16:34.480] What about now? [16:38.980 --> 16:39.600] There we go. [16:40.240 --> 16:40.560] Sorry. [16:40.560 --> 16:40.700] Sorry. [16:41.680 --> 16:42.060] Sorry. [16:42.760 --> 16:42.820] Oh. [16:43.400 --> 16:44.040] Wait, what? [16:46.120 --> 16:47.260] Thank you, that's all we needed. [16:51.100 --> 16:52.060] It worked once. [16:52.200 --> 16:52.540] Did the splitter go? [16:53.000 --> 16:53.240] Like... [16:53.840 --> 16:55.040] No, it's just because... [16:55.040 --> 16:55.840] What about now? [16:55.980 --> 16:56.640] I'm on a different... [16:56.640 --> 16:57.300] Yes, it works now. [16:58.880 --> 16:59.260] Yay! [16:59.480 --> 17:01.000] Nobody touch a fucking thing. [17:01.960 --> 17:02.140] All right. [17:02.240 --> 17:02.640] We see you. [17:02.640 --> 17:03.400] Do you hear me? [17:03.620 --> 17:04.400] Yes, we hear you. [17:05.460 --> 17:06.540] Oh, wow. [17:06.840 --> 17:06.980] Okay. [17:07.420 --> 17:07.720] Wow. [17:08.020 --> 17:08.920] That was weird. [17:10.660 --> 17:11.780] But good. [17:12.040 --> 17:12.820] We've done... [17:12.820 --> 17:18.200] You know, we did HOPE in 2020, and it was all virtual. [17:18.200 --> 17:19.460] A lot of people attended that. [17:19.580 --> 17:22.420] It was nine days of HOPE, and we had such good... [17:22.960 --> 17:29.260] We tuned ourselves so well for the two-way teleconferencing, because, you know, the MC was in one room. [17:29.420 --> 17:31.340] The speaker was in another location. [17:31.680 --> 17:32.820] We had recordings. [17:33.060 --> 17:36.920] It was all very complicated, and we got to work really pretty well perfectly. [17:37.100 --> 17:46.120] The only time it wasn't perfect was I went out for an afternoon jog one day, and everything crashed and burned when I was exactly the furthest point away from being back online. [17:46.120 --> 17:51.340] So, we know how to do remote stuff, but we didn't do very much for this conference, because we don't have to. [17:51.520 --> 17:52.500] We can be in person. [17:52.800 --> 17:53.540] So, hi, everyone. [17:53.720 --> 17:57.500] I think I've met a lot of people over the years at HOPE. [17:57.660 --> 18:02.240] Certainly, you saw me wandering around with academic robes. [18:02.320 --> 18:06.960] You saw me wandering around with a zoot suit and other recognizable apparel. [18:07.240 --> 18:10.500] So, it's sad for me not to be there this year. [18:10.900 --> 18:13.140] And disclosure, the situation is bad. [18:13.660 --> 18:14.840] It's the big C. [18:14.840 --> 18:19.800] I have pancreatic cancer, and it's not looking all that good. [18:20.000 --> 18:22.560] I haven't given up, and we're pursuing treatments. [18:24.000 --> 18:33.020] And I'm actually going to be consulting there in New York with Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, but I'm getting excellent care up here where I am in Canada as well. [18:33.220 --> 18:33.780] So, yeah. [18:33.840 --> 18:34.760] So, I'm sick. [18:35.000 --> 18:44.380] It's very sad, but I'm not sick enough to not be able to sit at a computer and manage some emails and help out with the tasks. [18:44.380 --> 18:48.920] So, I think a lot of people that were volunteers this weekend... [18:51.280 --> 18:51.620] Yeah. [18:55.860 --> 18:58.060] And that's working with volunteers. [18:58.280 --> 18:59.060] I mean, I'm a volunteer. [18:59.200 --> 18:59.580] We're all volunteers. [18:59.660 --> 19:00.880] Everyone you're looking at here is a volunteer. [19:00.880 --> 19:02.280] No one's getting paid for this stuff. [19:03.060 --> 19:21.940] But working with volunteers is just incredibly fulfilling, and I think it is because what I hear after the session every time, after the conference every time, is how life-changing it is to be part of HOPE and to be part of the conference and especially to step up and be a volunteer at the conference. [19:22.360 --> 19:29.260] So, if you haven't yet done that, if that hasn't been part of your gig so far at HOPE, do consider it for the future. [19:29.420 --> 19:30.420] It's a great way to meet people. [19:30.820 --> 19:31.440] I find... [19:31.440 --> 19:32.220] I mean, we're all... [19:32.220 --> 19:34.740] Almost all of us have some level of introversion. [19:34.960 --> 19:43.780] Some of us are pure extroverts, but even the ones that are more on the pure extrovert side still have an introverted side, and it's sometimes hard to meet people. [19:43.960 --> 19:46.960] It's sometimes hard to know, you know, where's your tribe? [19:47.060 --> 19:48.260] Where are some people with similar interests? [19:49.100 --> 19:51.060] And volunteering is a big part of that. [19:51.060 --> 19:53.640] So, I don't want to babble on... [19:53.640 --> 19:58.190] We have some slides that we'll go through with thank yous to particular groups. [19:58.860 --> 20:01.720] I think maybe Liz and I will tag team those or however we decide to do it. [20:01.860 --> 20:07.360] But I think for me personally, the message is thank you for all the enthusiastic support of me and my situation. [20:07.560 --> 20:09.140] I know some of you didn't know anything about it. [20:09.220 --> 20:10.000] You just knew I wasn't there. [20:10.220 --> 20:12.400] But now you know what the deal is. [20:12.500 --> 20:15.060] But even so, the support for me has been tremendous. [20:16.040 --> 20:27.140] And I hope that I'm also providing the excellent support that you need as attendees, ticket holders, volunteers, all these other places I've been trying to be helpful. [20:27.860 --> 20:29.700] So, I think that's it for me, Liz. [20:30.000 --> 20:32.300] However you want to proceed with the next couple slides. [20:32.460 --> 20:33.600] I understood we might have had a guess. [20:33.700 --> 20:33.720] Yeah. [20:34.220 --> 20:36.000] So, I couldn't figure out how to do these. [20:36.220 --> 20:42.260] Well, maybe I could just like minimize you and then we just look at the Google Slides page together and read it that way. [20:42.820 --> 20:43.700] Because it's... [20:43.700 --> 20:44.380] Are we having... [20:44.380 --> 20:47.520] Is Johannes offering words? [20:47.780 --> 20:48.740] Or is that a little later? [20:51.120 --> 20:52.380] A share screen option? [20:52.380 --> 20:52.420] A share screen option? [20:52.560 --> 20:52.720] Yeah. [20:53.080 --> 20:54.920] So when you open the mouse over the... [20:54.920 --> 20:55.680] This one? [20:57.000 --> 20:59.360] Oh, it's on the call. [20:59.800 --> 21:00.160] One second. [21:00.340 --> 21:00.500] Okay. [21:01.260 --> 21:01.780] So... [21:02.600 --> 21:04.100] Thank you, share. [21:09.040 --> 21:09.520] Okay. [21:10.120 --> 21:10.560] It's not... [21:10.560 --> 21:11.940] Why is this not working? [21:12.100 --> 21:12.660] Jesus Christ. [21:13.560 --> 21:14.760] This is what I get for buying a Mac. [21:18.060 --> 21:18.780] It's not... [21:18.780 --> 21:19.740] It's actually not clicking. [21:20.000 --> 21:20.880] That's so weird. [21:21.080 --> 21:21.220] Alright. [21:21.760 --> 21:22.240] Alright. [21:23.520 --> 21:24.000] Um... [21:24.000 --> 21:24.920] I don't know what to do. [21:26.480 --> 21:27.880] How about we just do it this way? [21:28.080 --> 21:30.280] And you guys can see Greg and that's pretty important. [21:30.500 --> 21:33.000] And then you guys can kind of see the slides. [21:33.280 --> 21:33.920] That works. [21:34.420 --> 21:35.220] Look at us. [21:35.460 --> 21:35.680] Perfect. [21:36.100 --> 21:36.440] Is that... [21:36.440 --> 21:37.780] Is that good enough? [21:38.080 --> 21:38.200] Yeah. [21:39.040 --> 21:39.220] Hey! [21:43.240 --> 21:44.080] Let's close that. [21:44.540 --> 21:44.720] Alright. [21:46.040 --> 21:46.400] So... [21:47.860 --> 21:48.220] Alright. [21:48.380 --> 21:49.840] Do you want to talk about the web team? [21:50.660 --> 21:51.020] And... [21:51.020 --> 21:51.580] Do you want to start? [21:51.760 --> 21:52.220] Yeah, sure. [21:52.300 --> 21:52.980] You want me to work through this? [21:52.980 --> 21:53.380] I'm sorry. [21:53.840 --> 21:56.400] For some reason, I thought Johannes was offering some remarks. [21:56.520 --> 21:58.220] Is that not happening now? [21:58.360 --> 22:01.800] Oh, we could invite our special European guest star first. [22:01.960 --> 22:04.800] But I'd have to do some stuff with the audio first. [22:05.140 --> 22:05.340] Let's do that. [22:05.860 --> 22:06.300] It's okay. [22:06.440 --> 22:07.360] So we should just do this first. [22:07.360 --> 22:08.140] We're already connected. [22:09.160 --> 22:09.260] Yeah. [22:09.440 --> 22:10.220] So let's... [22:11.540 --> 22:12.820] These are just some basic slides. [22:13.000 --> 22:16.420] We wanted to make sure we thanked all the different groups. [22:16.660 --> 22:18.000] So we'll zip through pretty quickly. [22:18.420 --> 22:19.140] Let me... [22:19.140 --> 22:20.660] I'm going to call up the slides. [22:20.920 --> 22:21.500] So on my screen. [22:21.800 --> 22:21.920] Yeah. [22:21.920 --> 22:24.660] So behind the scenes, we did a lot of work, a lot of setup work. [22:24.940 --> 22:32.080] There's a web team that set up the website, obviously, but also the matrix, you know, the chat bot, all that stuff. [22:32.200 --> 22:32.720] And it just worked. [22:32.720 --> 22:44.120] That's one thing that you've heard us say is really nice about doing it this year, and we did it last year, is not nearly as much entropy as set in as when we have it every two years. [22:44.360 --> 22:48.020] So this is only a subset of the different types of things. [22:48.020 --> 22:51.160] But we did have the technology setup team. [22:51.360 --> 22:58.120] And also we had committees that selected speakers, workshops, villages, vendors, performances, and all the other crazy stuff that we did. [22:58.120 --> 23:02.420] And these folks started working back in January, basically. [23:02.700 --> 23:04.780] That was when the call first came out. [23:04.940 --> 23:07.500] And then, you know, submissions started being accepted. [23:07.720 --> 23:08.540] So this was great. [23:08.700 --> 23:09.500] It worked out really well. [23:09.500 --> 23:11.360] A lot of returning crew there. [23:12.300 --> 23:22.100] And if this happens to be your gig, when you send in feedback or when we're gearing up for the future session, express yourself if you might want to be part of the advanced team. [23:22.480 --> 23:23.780] We do find that's hard to do. [23:23.920 --> 23:27.320] It's easier for a lot of people to volunteer on site. [23:27.460 --> 23:35.240] We get a lot more volunteers on site than in the weeks and even months leading up to HOPE. [23:35.440 --> 23:37.240] So if that might be your thing, let us know. [23:37.240 --> 23:41.080] We could always use a couple of those different types of help. [23:41.900 --> 23:42.380] Okay. [23:42.540 --> 23:43.360] So thanks very much, Sam. [23:43.720 --> 23:47.080] Next slide here is thanks to our host, St. John's. [23:47.700 --> 23:50.260] Emmanuel mentioned already we had... [23:50.260 --> 23:52.960] It's just become a warmer relationship over time. [23:52.960 --> 23:53.660] It's been amazing. [23:53.960 --> 24:01.520] And I think if anyone talked to, like, public safety people or there's a couple of other St. John's people running around helping out. [24:01.760 --> 24:03.440] They have their AV staff. [24:03.580 --> 24:06.340] They have their network operations center staff. [24:06.780 --> 24:08.500] They just give tremendous coverage. [24:08.680 --> 24:09.920] And they really do seem to like us. [24:10.120 --> 24:12.700] And hopefully that isn't just because they like me. [24:13.060 --> 24:17.440] Because we might have someone else in this role next time around. [24:17.660 --> 24:20.680] But we're really grateful to St. John's. [24:20.760 --> 24:21.760] They've been a tremendous host. [24:22.020 --> 24:23.200] They bent over backwards. [24:23.800 --> 24:25.380] Emmanuel mentioned this at a later date. [24:25.380 --> 24:26.440] And so we aligned. [24:26.640 --> 24:27.800] You know, we looked at when DEF CON was. [24:27.900 --> 24:36.320] We realized that's a little inconvenient for some people, especially those that caught the coronavirus at DEF CON. [24:36.540 --> 24:44.520] So we know this maybe isn't totally ideal, but we were, as far as I know, intended to be the only group on campus. [24:44.520 --> 24:54.720] And we've had, in the last couple of years, we had not conflict at all, but limitations on shared resources. [24:54.720 --> 25:01.500] So there wasn't enough of everything to go around in terms of dorm rooms and stuff like that. [25:01.500 --> 25:06.340] But this year, we were the only event on campus, other than returning students and graduate students. [25:06.860 --> 25:08.240] So St. John's has been wonderful to work with. [25:08.340 --> 25:10.060] That is the message here. [25:10.160 --> 25:12.020] And I think we do intend to keep working with them. [25:12.260 --> 25:13.740] They have multiple different groups. [25:13.820 --> 25:14.840] I listed some of them here. [25:15.260 --> 25:16.320] Of course, that's transparent. [25:16.520 --> 25:17.900] As a hope attendee, things just work. [25:18.100 --> 25:18.580] It's just magical. [25:18.880 --> 25:23.060] But there are a number of different groups, and they were all super helpful and kind. [25:24.020 --> 25:25.200] So that's St. John's. [25:26.620 --> 25:28.440] Next page is about scholarships. [25:29.120 --> 25:36.580] I think people saw the email blast about this, and scholarships were an idea that we've had for a long time. [25:37.080 --> 25:38.320] Many people have brought it up. [25:38.540 --> 25:40.140] It wasn't like one person's idea at all. [25:40.300 --> 25:41.920] It's an idea we've had for a long time. [25:42.060 --> 25:47.920] And we never quite had the inspiration to pull it off, because it is another program. [25:48.100 --> 25:53.400] We're doing all these reviews and stuff of talks and workshops and doing all the logistical planning. [25:53.620 --> 25:57.460] And adding an additional thing was kind of a tough ask for us. [25:57.460 --> 26:00.560] However, it helped because it brought in more ticket revenue. [26:00.740 --> 26:04.660] And as you saw, if you read the email blast, ticket revenue is how hope happens. [26:04.820 --> 26:07.860] We get some income from the vendors that we'll mention later. [26:08.460 --> 26:13.160] We don't get direct income from the sponsors, who we'll also mention later. [26:13.300 --> 26:19.480] But we do get a boost from vendors for income. [26:19.480 --> 26:21.340] But most of it is from ticket sales. [26:21.640 --> 26:24.880] And this is different than most other conferences that you might attend. [26:25.160 --> 26:28.540] Certainly, it's very different than a lot of the IT conferences you might attend. [26:28.740 --> 26:30.560] And we believe it's pretty different from DEFCON. [26:30.660 --> 26:32.860] We don't know their finances in any great detail. [26:33.060 --> 26:39.140] But it's pretty clear that they have other income streams, not just ticket sales. [26:39.140 --> 26:45.440] So thank you to the scholarship purchasers that I sort of got to a digression there. [26:45.780 --> 26:47.980] The scholarships were tremendously successful. [26:48.460 --> 26:54.140] And the people that made donations of tickets through the scholarship, they're really appreciated. [26:54.800 --> 26:58.140] And I think actually, Liz, why don't you just jump ahead to slide eight? [26:58.300 --> 27:00.940] Because we have a slide that thanks those folks explicitly. [27:01.260 --> 27:07.120] And these are only the people that offered to have their name public. [27:07.300 --> 27:09.000] So I think there's about twice as many. [27:09.220 --> 27:10.680] And a number of people wanted to be anonymous. [27:11.520 --> 27:12.660] So that's the... [27:13.280 --> 27:14.380] That's not the next slide. [27:14.500 --> 27:15.400] The next slide is security. [27:17.340 --> 27:19.280] So I don't have that here. [27:20.520 --> 27:21.940] It's slide eight in my deck. [27:22.260 --> 27:22.800] Oh, slide one. [27:22.800 --> 27:23.180] Oh, okay. [27:23.400 --> 27:24.180] I can count. [27:24.360 --> 27:24.800] Oh, here we are. [27:24.860 --> 27:25.260] There it is. [27:25.580 --> 27:26.200] There it is. [27:26.540 --> 27:26.660] Yeah. [27:27.020 --> 27:29.540] So these are the... [27:30.480 --> 27:30.840] Fantastic. [27:37.380 --> 27:42.280] And of course, as often as the case, it takes a little while to dream up what this program's going to look like. [27:42.620 --> 27:45.820] But then once you do it, of course, it's not really all that bad. [27:46.240 --> 27:48.660] And so I anticipate we'll be doing scholarships in the future. [27:49.440 --> 27:50.920] They work out really, really well. [27:51.120 --> 27:52.540] And I don't know what people think. [27:52.540 --> 27:54.740] This is something for feedback at hope.net. [27:54.880 --> 27:58.140] You know, send in an email if you are a participant in the scholarships. [27:58.340 --> 28:01.940] So we know what your experience has been. [28:02.140 --> 28:06.260] I think probably if we do this again with scholarships, we'll need to do it just a little bit earlier. [28:07.040 --> 28:14.900] Because knowing the week before hope that you're going to hope is maybe a little bit unkind for people that need to do all the logistics and travel and stuff like that. [28:15.940 --> 28:19.060] And it was even after the dorm room reservation deadline. [28:19.340 --> 28:20.680] So anyway, scholarships were great. [28:20.800 --> 28:21.820] They worked out really, really well. [28:22.040 --> 28:28.800] Thank you to all the scholarship donors and thank you to all the participants who wrote in with their proposal. [28:29.780 --> 28:31.220] Okay, carrying on. [28:32.000 --> 28:33.280] Interrupt me if needed. [28:33.540 --> 28:36.000] The next slide was slide five. [28:36.160 --> 28:37.920] You can pop up to slide five again. [28:38.260 --> 28:46.060] Security team, we didn't cover this in the opening ceremonies like we did the last two events here at St. John's. [28:47.460 --> 28:52.520] But some of you might remember if you were at those events, we have a tripartite model here. [28:52.760 --> 29:00.260] Sort of a four-way model really because the first line of defense in security is the attendees. [29:00.500 --> 29:05.640] You know, people that are maybe spotting a problem of some sort and then raise it to the appropriate venue. [29:06.040 --> 29:08.500] But other than attendees, we have a tripartite model. [29:08.820 --> 29:14.020] One is the security team who you saw running around in their different colored shirts during the event. [29:14.720 --> 29:21.420] That's the folks that are keeping track of making sure everyone has their ad showing, stuff like that. [29:22.640 --> 29:24.160] Helping out with any emergent issues. [29:24.760 --> 29:29.500] You know, if we had like a fight or a fall or something like that, they're likely to be first on scene. [29:30.040 --> 29:31.820] So that's our hope security volunteers. [29:33.040 --> 29:34.860] We also, though, had Operation Hammond. [29:36.300 --> 29:38.860] Excuse me, I have hiccups due to my... [29:40.060 --> 29:41.300] Excuse me, due to my treatment. [29:43.520 --> 29:46.120] Yeah, Operation Hammond in the past has sent several people. [29:46.240 --> 29:50.800] And this time, unfortunately, we conflicted with some other events they were committed to. [29:50.980 --> 29:51.260] Excuse me. [29:51.660 --> 29:52.540] So we only had... [29:52.960 --> 29:55.300] I think it ended up being something like one and a third people. [29:55.500 --> 29:57.780] We had one person who we thanked deeply. [29:58.820 --> 30:03.000] And then there was a person that was here just for part of the time. [30:04.260 --> 30:05.760] So thanks to Operation Hammond. [30:05.760 --> 30:08.460] And they are the code of conduct team. [30:09.260 --> 30:13.300] And we had very few code of conduct issues this time around. [30:13.620 --> 30:19.540] I didn't see if there was a count, but it was low, possibly none. [30:19.700 --> 30:22.060] But I think probably not none, but it was quite low. [30:22.380 --> 30:24.940] And Operation Hammond is trained. [30:25.080 --> 30:27.200] Their personnel are trained in things like escalation. [30:27.540 --> 30:29.180] And so they're really, really great to have around. [30:29.180 --> 30:34.920] And so that was the second leg of the stool of our three-legged security approach. [30:35.180 --> 30:38.600] And then the last one is St. John's University Public Safety. [30:38.800 --> 30:52.060] And these are the folks, you know, if there's an ambulance coming, if there's someone that needs to be escorted from campus, if there's, again, a fall, you know, they might be the first people on the scene. [30:52.220 --> 30:55.320] They're also keeping track of the rooms, you know, locking up rooms, stuff like that. [30:55.320 --> 30:58.220] So thanks to all three of those, they did a tremendous job. [30:58.380 --> 31:00.600] We think, as far as I can tell, I wasn't there in person, of course. [31:00.760 --> 31:03.740] But they always seem to be very, very gentle, very knowledgeable, kind. [31:04.060 --> 31:05.380] They're there to truly help. [31:05.500 --> 31:09.100] So thanks to all that security stature. [31:10.640 --> 31:11.220] Next slide. [31:13.040 --> 31:15.000] I don't know, is Mitch on the stage there? [31:15.080 --> 31:16.500] Because maybe we should ask him to talk about workshops. [31:16.500 --> 31:17.300] Do you want to talk about workshops? [31:17.740 --> 31:17.960] Sure. [31:18.420 --> 31:19.400] Do you want to come over here and say hi? [31:20.180 --> 31:20.860] I can do it. [31:20.980 --> 31:21.840] Okay, yeah, that works. [31:24.940 --> 31:25.460] Mike? [31:25.800 --> 31:26.160] Yeah. [31:26.440 --> 31:26.900] Hi, everyone. [31:27.360 --> 31:29.360] How many people here have never soldered? [31:31.720 --> 31:32.240] Nobody? [31:32.540 --> 31:33.720] Everyone soldered before? [31:34.620 --> 31:35.340] No, there is. [31:35.460 --> 31:36.680] We need to change that. [31:37.100 --> 31:40.500] The people who haven't soldered need to come to a workshop and learn to solder. [31:41.240 --> 31:42.700] It makes life wonderful. [31:42.960 --> 31:43.700] It makes life better. [31:43.940 --> 31:45.660] Soldering cures all ills. [31:45.980 --> 31:48.220] So anyways, there are a lot of people who gave workshops. [31:48.220 --> 31:51.400] And we had a full schedule of that. [31:51.560 --> 31:52.240] Three at once. [31:52.600 --> 31:54.940] And many in a fourth track. [31:55.420 --> 31:59.180] And it was really wonderful seeing it so busy. [31:59.600 --> 32:01.920] And so many people engaged. [32:02.520 --> 32:05.400] So thanks to all the wonderful people who gave workshops. [32:05.400 --> 32:07.800] And thanks for participating in workshops. [32:08.560 --> 32:09.660] It's really fun. [32:16.080 --> 32:17.980] I think this one's me? [32:18.140 --> 32:18.540] Greg? [32:21.180 --> 32:22.440] The backend team? [32:22.600 --> 32:22.800] Yeah. [32:23.380 --> 32:24.040] Or the... [32:24.040 --> 32:24.420] Yeah. [32:24.860 --> 32:25.180] Sure, go ahead. [32:25.600 --> 32:31.160] So the backend team does all the work to make our website look wonderful. [32:31.160 --> 32:37.500] Our matrix rooms, you know, connected in Able and, you know, all the fun stuff. [32:37.980 --> 32:41.120] Colin McCarthy set up our pre-talks, which is what we use for our scheduling. [32:42.020 --> 32:44.380] Without that, the Hacker Tracker app wouldn't work. [32:44.720 --> 32:47.600] Our, you know, our website wouldn't have schedule on it. [32:48.020 --> 32:51.880] Mal was our main matrix admin and element bot creator. [32:53.560 --> 32:58.160] Anytime I had an issue, I was able to reach out to Mal and he was on it really quick, very quickly. [32:58.840 --> 33:01.720] Aesthetics, Chris and Greg worked on the website, hope.net. [33:02.460 --> 33:04.320] And Toasty Cookies did schedule entry. [33:05.140 --> 33:06.580] So thank you, all of you. [33:06.860 --> 33:07.040] Great. [33:13.900 --> 33:14.540] Next slide. [33:14.940 --> 33:16.120] And that's the donors again. [33:16.980 --> 33:17.400] And... [33:17.400 --> 33:19.100] Yeah, we're talking about the psychology donors. [33:19.500 --> 33:21.060] Oh, yeah, we did that, right? [33:21.280 --> 33:21.680] Yeah, we did. [33:22.120 --> 33:22.700] So vendors. [33:23.300 --> 33:23.340] Yeah. [33:24.780 --> 33:25.300] Do you want me to? [33:25.540 --> 33:25.680] Yeah. [33:26.420 --> 33:26.780] All right. [33:27.280 --> 33:34.300] Well, like I mentioned briefly, you see the logos here, we put those in the interstitial slides and the talks as well. [33:34.720 --> 33:36.800] We had a very good response from vendors. [33:37.660 --> 33:39.640] And probably there are a few that are still there. [33:39.720 --> 33:42.080] So feel free to talk with them if they're still there. [33:42.260 --> 33:45.360] But the vendors are here because they like hope. [33:45.640 --> 33:49.940] Because they want to talk to you and have interaction with the hope attendees. [33:50.380 --> 33:57.040] And they all get sort of vetted to make sure that they're in sort of the general, you know, big tent hacker space. [33:57.040 --> 33:58.200] So we're really happy with them. [33:58.360 --> 33:59.500] And I think I'll highlight... [33:59.500 --> 34:00.820] These are all worth highlighting. [34:01.020 --> 34:03.260] But I think I'll highlight EFF as we often do. [34:03.680 --> 34:12.280] EFF, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, truly sees themselves as a partner of HOPE and 2600 Magazine. [34:12.540 --> 34:15.380] So they are just wonderful to work with. [34:15.380 --> 34:17.080] As you saw, they sent a whole big crew. [34:17.340 --> 34:19.640] They're happy to talk about just about anything. [34:19.640 --> 34:23.740] You know, the regular cautions about legal advice apply. [34:23.900 --> 34:26.440] But they're really, really talented and helpful. [34:26.620 --> 34:28.100] So I want to highlight EFF. [34:28.380 --> 34:29.700] But all the vendors were wonderful. [34:29.700 --> 34:31.660] And we thank them for being here. [34:32.200 --> 34:34.640] The next slide is a separate tier, sort of. [34:34.800 --> 34:35.680] These are the sponsors. [34:36.040 --> 34:38.160] These are organizations that the hacker... [34:38.160 --> 34:41.860] Just to give you an idea, the hacker table is like $550 for the weekend. [34:41.860 --> 34:43.300] It includes two free passes. [34:43.500 --> 34:46.740] So in other words, it's barely more expensive than buying two tickets. [34:46.820 --> 34:48.820] Or it's about the same as buying two tickets to HOPE. [34:50.340 --> 34:53.820] With sponsorship, those come in at a higher level of either cash. [34:54.800 --> 34:56.800] Or I think in all these cases, it wasn't cash. [34:56.940 --> 34:57.960] It was what you call in-kind. [34:58.240 --> 34:59.960] Which means they loaned stuff. [35:00.220 --> 35:01.320] They provided infrastructure. [35:02.080 --> 35:02.940] That sort of thing. [35:03.320 --> 35:05.140] ISOC is Internet Society. [35:05.500 --> 35:08.780] And ISOC Live is the streaming group. [35:08.940 --> 35:10.300] A lot of you might have met. [35:10.400 --> 35:11.920] I'm sure he's in the room in the back there. [35:12.420 --> 35:15.580] Jolie, who is our ISOC contact. [35:15.960 --> 35:18.760] So that was the streaming, the live stream that a lot of people are watching. [35:18.760 --> 35:23.700] Now, Fortinet, Alex already mentioned for security infrastructure. [35:24.440 --> 35:29.600] ExcelX also mentioned for security infrastructure and some of the virtual machines. [35:30.280 --> 35:31.720] And then JCI, John Companies. [35:32.120 --> 35:33.620] They actually run the... [35:33.620 --> 35:41.340] They donated the systems that we use for the scheduler and for Angel System, which is the system we use for volunteers. [35:42.180 --> 35:43.720] So highlighting those. [35:46.640 --> 35:49.020] This next one is HOPE's host. [35:49.180 --> 35:51.640] And we sometimes forget this, I think. [35:52.560 --> 35:54.560] And I think it's good to be reminded. [35:55.960 --> 36:00.740] So the finances, you know, the checks are written by 2600 Magazine. [36:01.120 --> 36:03.760] HOPE is not currently operating as its own organization. [36:03.760 --> 36:05.660] That may change in the future. [36:05.860 --> 36:11.760] We're basically all part of the 2600 umbrella. [36:12.820 --> 36:16.120] And 2600, I'm sure everyone in the room knows, is the Hacker Quarterly. [36:16.240 --> 36:17.920] It's been around for quite some time. [36:18.440 --> 36:20.220] Phrack has also been around for quite some time. [36:20.340 --> 36:21.420] And they had a great celebration. [36:22.140 --> 36:25.800] You know, so there's a tradition of these hacker magazines out there. [36:25.800 --> 36:30.300] And it's tough to do as someone that's seen the inside and behind the scenes. [36:30.520 --> 36:38.820] This is a challenging environment, being an in-print publisher and plus a digital publisher. [36:39.060 --> 36:40.340] Very challenging environment. [36:40.540 --> 36:44.460] And it's challenging because you've got to do what you've got to do to turn out a magazine. [36:44.620 --> 36:48.640] You know, solicit articles, do the review, do the editorial work, all kinds of stuff like that. [36:48.740 --> 36:51.100] But also extremely fiscally challenging. [36:51.780 --> 36:59.900] And we see in the editorial of 2600 regularly, like at least once or twice a year it seems, something made it even more challenging. [37:00.300 --> 37:02.800] Often it's related to distribution or costs. [37:03.140 --> 37:08.980] We had this crisis with Amazon, changing their approach, which we got around by writing our own software. [37:09.120 --> 37:17.960] So you might recall we talked about it a year ago, where distribution and explicitly avoiding the Amazon store is the only way of doing this type of thing. [37:18.360 --> 37:20.440] So it's challenging. [37:20.440 --> 37:21.820] It's a really challenging environment. [37:22.000 --> 37:33.860] And the fact is that when you buy your ticket to HOPE, or if you buy a scholarship to HOPE, or if you sign up as a vendor to HOPE, that also is helping 2600's finances. [37:34.460 --> 37:37.620] And meanwhile 2600 is actually paying the bills for HOPE. [37:37.720 --> 37:41.780] So basically anything that's good for 2600 is good for HOPE, and to a large extent vice versa. [37:41.980 --> 37:47.080] Anything that's good for one is good for the other. [37:47.080 --> 37:56.280] So I wanted to highlight those, and I want to also say a special thanks to the 2600 editor and publisher, Manuel Goldstein, there on the stage. [38:08.430 --> 38:08.750] Marvelous. [38:09.370 --> 38:09.690] Thank you. [38:09.910 --> 38:14.250] So, Liz, I think we're turning it over to Johannes now, and then the last slide is just a feedback slide. [38:14.310 --> 38:16.950] So I'll mention it because we may or may not manage to get it up on the screen again. [38:16.950 --> 38:19.010] But please do send feedback. [38:19.270 --> 38:20.550] This is really, really helpful. [38:21.170 --> 38:22.190] And you can be critical. [38:22.370 --> 38:22.670] It's okay. [38:23.210 --> 38:24.450] You don't have to... [38:24.450 --> 38:25.130] And you can be short. [38:25.430 --> 38:26.150] You can be terse. [38:26.510 --> 38:27.330] You know, anything's good. [38:27.470 --> 38:29.970] And email that to feedback at hope.net. [38:30.010 --> 38:35.930] And I think we'll see at least probably one more email blast that goes out to the HOPE announce list, inviting that feedback. [38:36.090 --> 38:36.930] But that's really sincere. [38:36.930 --> 38:37.810] We read it all. [38:37.970 --> 38:38.890] It's not that much. [38:38.890 --> 38:44.610] It's not beyond the capability of the organizing group to read all those comments. [38:44.950 --> 38:52.350] And in the past, we've published those in the magazines that you can also see publicly, you know, what some of the feedback has been. [38:52.630 --> 38:55.290] So please do send your input, your feedback. [38:55.590 --> 38:57.550] And I think those are all of my remarks. [38:57.550 --> 38:59.830] And we're going to turn it over to Johannes. [39:00.170 --> 39:01.890] Our special European guest, yes. [39:02.130 --> 39:02.270] Yes. [39:02.450 --> 39:02.750] All right. [39:03.090 --> 39:03.970] So let me just... [39:09.560 --> 39:10.680] I'm going to... [39:10.680 --> 39:12.060] There you go. [39:12.520 --> 39:13.280] Good luck. [39:13.680 --> 39:14.680] I'm going to do this. [39:14.860 --> 39:15.060] Yeah, that's true. [39:15.440 --> 39:15.880] Yeah, right? [39:15.980 --> 39:16.720] We'll see. [39:17.060 --> 39:17.520] I don't know. [39:18.200 --> 39:18.340] Ah, shit. [39:18.420 --> 39:19.520] I'm blind at this. [39:20.520 --> 39:21.260] That's the right one. [39:21.440 --> 39:21.980] That's the right one. [39:22.540 --> 39:23.020] HDMI. [39:23.500 --> 39:23.820] HDMI. [39:25.260 --> 39:25.740] HDMI. [39:26.980 --> 39:27.460] HDMI. [39:28.100 --> 39:28.220] HDMI. [39:28.220 --> 39:28.240] HDMI. [39:28.240 --> 39:28.880] Where is it? [39:29.060 --> 39:30.660] What is this one? [39:30.700 --> 39:31.020] What? [39:31.360 --> 39:31.720] It's here. [39:32.140 --> 39:32.660] I don't know. [39:32.820 --> 39:33.660] I can move it over. [39:33.940 --> 39:34.560] Yeah, you got to move it over. [39:34.560 --> 39:35.480] Ah, that's great. [39:37.060 --> 39:37.840] Jesus Christ. [39:40.220 --> 39:41.500] Can I unplug this? [39:41.720 --> 39:43.020] This is a heck of a conference. [39:43.160 --> 39:45.240] I'm like, nobody knows how to work that shit. [39:49.240 --> 39:50.900] I'll just like... [39:51.540 --> 39:52.200] There we go. [40:02.080 --> 40:02.700] There we go. [40:02.900 --> 40:03.060] Yes. [40:03.380 --> 40:03.820] My God. [40:04.360 --> 40:04.760] Ah. [40:05.560 --> 40:06.660] So where's all the... [40:06.660 --> 40:07.480] It's a little bit... [40:07.480 --> 40:11.840] It's a little bit complicated because the special European guest is not me. [40:12.100 --> 40:15.140] I'm part of this for 19 years now, so I'm not very special. [40:15.860 --> 40:18.440] The guest I'm trying to get on stage is a little bit... [40:18.440 --> 40:19.920] It's a fragile creature. [40:20.240 --> 40:21.660] Let's try to make this happen. [40:29.700 --> 40:30.840] Just a second. [40:31.000 --> 40:33.700] The pressure. [40:37.180 --> 40:38.280] No pressure. [40:39.400 --> 40:40.200] No pressure. [40:46.740 --> 40:47.500] There. [40:47.960 --> 40:48.040] Ah. [40:48.400 --> 40:50.280] Does the microphone work? [40:50.480 --> 40:51.260] Yes, it does. [40:51.260 --> 40:52.780] Does the microphone work? [40:52.900 --> 40:53.000] No. [40:53.920 --> 40:54.580] It does. [40:54.900 --> 40:55.400] It does. [40:55.540 --> 40:55.860] Okay. [40:56.120 --> 41:02.140] So, I have a very special European guest here with me. [41:03.000 --> 41:09.320] My little friend, the frog, who is not related to Pepe. [41:09.640 --> 41:11.660] So, there's nothing there. [41:12.240 --> 41:17.680] Just they're sharing species, I guess, but nothing beyond that. [41:19.440 --> 41:25.560] So, our frog here was very, very interested in many, many of the talks here. [41:25.560 --> 41:37.380] So, he attended many of the talks and listened to many conversations and, in general, tried to get a grip of what America is and what it stands for. [41:39.140 --> 41:44.900] And because of that, he prepared a little song. [41:45.180 --> 41:49.440] So, first of all, that's his presentation here. [41:50.680 --> 41:56.620] And he presented, he wants to present a little song for you and we'll see how that works. [41:56.840 --> 42:04.900] I hope that the sound is turned up because there will be a little sing-along with the frog. [42:05.140 --> 42:05.380] What? [42:05.660 --> 42:06.480] Do you need a third hand? [42:06.480 --> 42:07.920] I always need a third hand. [42:08.240 --> 42:11.660] I also need a third leg and other third things, but okay, we'll see that. [42:11.840 --> 42:12.600] Let's try it. [42:16.840 --> 42:18.380] There should be music. [42:23.000 --> 42:25.040] No, there should be music. [42:27.280 --> 42:28.360] I did. [42:28.760 --> 42:30.740] I did everything I could. [42:31.160 --> 42:32.220] Poor frog. [42:34.560 --> 42:36.120] Fuck off that shit. [42:37.620 --> 42:42.140] And that is exactly why we emphasize that this is a volunteer-run conference. [42:42.140 --> 42:43.260] We're not professionals. [42:44.080 --> 42:46.000] I don't give a shit. [42:46.000 --> 42:47.460] It doesn't matter. [42:47.960 --> 42:48.980] It does not matter. [42:49.200 --> 42:54.760] Dear American friends, we will sing this together without the music. [42:55.100 --> 42:58.180] It will be a strange kind of... [42:58.180 --> 42:58.620] What? [42:59.300 --> 43:00.620] There, I plugged it in. [43:00.980 --> 43:01.940] I plugged it in. [43:02.760 --> 43:03.440] There. [43:03.720 --> 43:04.040] There. [43:04.680 --> 43:05.740] Looks good to me. [43:06.240 --> 43:07.300] Looks good to you. [43:07.780 --> 43:08.920] Looks good to me. [43:09.160 --> 43:11.220] What the fuck is happening? [43:15.490 --> 43:16.130] Ahhhh. [43:16.290 --> 43:17.870] Let's do that. [43:20.510 --> 43:22.470] Now, I tell you what. [43:22.850 --> 43:24.590] It's a way more special moment. [43:25.050 --> 43:27.310] We're trying to do it a cappella. [43:27.470 --> 43:27.910] Why not? [43:28.070 --> 43:28.810] Let's do that. [43:34.170 --> 43:37.070] There is a song that you know. [43:37.290 --> 43:39.210] It's called The Rainbow Connection. [43:39.310 --> 43:39.790] Do you know it? [43:40.610 --> 43:41.130] Yeah? [43:41.390 --> 43:41.490] Yeah? [43:41.630 --> 43:41.890] Yeah? [43:42.030 --> 43:42.290] Yeah? [43:42.290 --> 43:43.990] Let's try to hum it together. [43:51.310 --> 43:55.670] Because it is. [43:55.670 --> 44:02.210] Why are there so many American fascists. [44:02.210 --> 44:06.070] Shouting their hate in the street. [44:07.230 --> 44:12.910] Marching with torches and buying more rifles. [44:13.630 --> 44:16.930] Dreaming of whom to mistreat. [44:18.430 --> 44:24.630] I'm just a small frog minding my e-business. [44:24.630 --> 44:28.750] But I'm not that troll they adore. [44:28.750 --> 44:33.090] I sing in the moonlight. [44:33.250 --> 44:37.630] I dance in the meadow. [44:38.590 --> 44:42.690] But fascists I can't take no more. [44:42.690 --> 44:46.710] So I wanna hit them with sticks. [44:47.190 --> 44:50.850] I wanna hit them with sticks. [44:51.490 --> 44:54.270] Sweet little frog voice. [44:54.490 --> 44:56.630] But here my choice. [44:57.450 --> 45:00.650] I wanna hit them with sticks. [45:01.510 --> 45:04.970] That's more like, I guess, a fair, like, improvisation. [45:05.130 --> 45:06.370] But let's go on. [45:06.470 --> 45:06.890] Let's go on. [45:06.890 --> 45:10.710] They rant about freedom. [45:10.710 --> 45:14.110] But only for white men. [45:14.510 --> 45:18.570] The rest of us don't make the grade. [45:19.270 --> 45:21.890] They follow their strongmen. [45:22.050 --> 45:24.230] But echo their slogans. [45:24.410 --> 45:27.290] But all of it feels so afraid. [45:28.230 --> 45:29.870] This is a disaster. [45:31.130 --> 45:33.030] Hackers are laughing. [45:33.450 --> 45:35.290] The wires are buzzing. [45:35.730 --> 45:38.670] We know how to deal with their tricks. [45:39.090 --> 45:44.090] We'll prank them and punk them and mean them to pieces. [45:44.550 --> 45:47.710] And sometimes just hit them with sticks. [45:47.710 --> 45:51.930] I wanna hit them with sticks. [45:52.370 --> 45:56.010] I wanna hit them with sticks. [45:57.430 --> 45:59.410] Soft froggy smile. [45:59.650 --> 46:00.970] But all the while. [46:01.330 --> 46:03.870] I wanna hit them with sticks. [46:04.450 --> 46:05.950] Ribbit, ribbit. [46:06.090 --> 46:07.390] I'm gentle and green. [46:07.850 --> 46:09.450] But fascists make frogs. [46:09.870 --> 46:10.830] Very mean. [46:11.570 --> 46:13.090] Croak, croak, croak. [46:13.090 --> 46:13.890] Ribbit, ribbit. [46:14.050 --> 46:15.310] What should I do? [46:16.590 --> 46:18.370] Smack them with sticks. [46:18.570 --> 46:19.390] Tell they are blue. [46:19.770 --> 46:21.750] And here is my business. [46:22.130 --> 46:23.770] Get some sticks.com. [46:24.030 --> 46:24.290] Here. [46:24.710 --> 46:25.430] E-business. [46:25.870 --> 46:26.510] Whatever. [46:27.530 --> 46:28.130] Thank you. [46:39.110 --> 46:41.250] So, he's a special frog. [46:41.590 --> 46:42.670] I like him a lot. [46:42.870 --> 46:44.070] Thank you so much. [46:44.270 --> 46:47.390] Keep hitting bad people with sticks. [46:56.160 --> 47:00.000] So, I guess, are there any final words from us up here? [47:00.260 --> 47:00.380] Rich? [47:00.740 --> 47:00.860] Lindsey? [47:02.060 --> 47:02.360] Greg? [47:04.620 --> 47:05.700] I'm going to say one thing. [47:05.900 --> 47:06.980] Yeah, go ahead. [47:07.180 --> 47:07.220] Chris. [47:07.340 --> 47:08.800] So, I'm Chris. [47:08.880 --> 47:16.020] And I was trying to be Greg this year and help speakers get what they want. [47:16.020 --> 47:19.860] And I was kind of joking around earlier saying I'm about one over pi, Greg. [47:20.120 --> 47:24.020] But I realize I'm about one over pi squared, Greg, if I'm lucky. [47:24.600 --> 47:27.820] So, it was great working with you all and all the volunteers. [47:29.380 --> 47:29.980] Greg's here. [47:30.180 --> 47:30.720] Greg's still here. [47:31.420 --> 47:31.900] Hi. [47:32.000 --> 47:32.300] Hi, Greg. [47:34.280 --> 47:34.840] He's here? [47:36.800 --> 47:37.540] He's still here. [47:38.460 --> 47:38.740] Hi. [47:39.060 --> 47:39.380] Yes. [47:39.920 --> 47:42.120] What happens is there's a... [47:42.120 --> 47:42.620] Oh, can you hear me? [47:42.860 --> 47:43.240] Yes. [47:43.480 --> 47:43.580] Yeah. [47:44.660 --> 47:46.540] We now have a microphone to the laptop. [47:47.480 --> 47:47.740] Oh, definitely. [47:49.240 --> 47:51.260] There's these different phases of having cancer. [47:51.460 --> 47:54.440] There's a denial phase and a sad phase and stuff like that. [47:54.560 --> 47:55.980] And I'm in the mockery phase. [47:55.980 --> 48:02.240] So, any, you know, any poking fun at death and dying is okay with me at this point. [48:02.600 --> 48:05.280] Of course, we're hopeful that that won't be the outcome. [48:07.860 --> 48:09.780] So, I'll relay. [48:10.100 --> 48:17.860] Greg said he's been through all these phases of grieving and through dealing with cancer, but now he's in the mocking phase. [48:18.080 --> 48:24.900] Any kind of mockery of cancer and dying is totally fine with Greg. [48:34.070 --> 48:34.710] And he's... [48:34.710 --> 48:35.190] That's right. [48:35.370 --> 48:35.510] Fuck you. [48:35.550 --> 48:36.330] And he's waving. [48:37.590 --> 48:37.950] What? [48:38.970 --> 48:42.930] All I wanted to... my last remark here is feedback at HOPE.net. [48:43.090 --> 48:44.130] We really would love to get you there. [48:44.290 --> 48:47.550] Actually, before you go, Greg, I know you're short on time. [48:47.790 --> 48:49.530] Is it okay if we show you the crowd? [48:50.170 --> 48:51.490] Is everyone all right with that? [48:51.590 --> 48:52.490] So Greg can say hi? [48:54.410 --> 48:55.290] Someone for you. [48:57.070 --> 48:58.350] One more time, louder! [49:14.060 --> 49:16.040] We wish you the very best, Greg. [49:17.280 --> 49:19.860] You know, cancer has hit a lot of us, personally. [49:20.220 --> 49:21.700] My mom's battling it again. [49:22.640 --> 49:24.820] You know, I've lost friends in the past couple of years. [49:24.960 --> 49:25.540] It sucks. [49:26.280 --> 49:27.980] Absolutely, 100% fuck cancer. [49:28.160 --> 49:29.680] And we're here rooting for you. [49:29.960 --> 49:33.440] And I think we have an empty chair waiting for you for when you come back. [49:33.480 --> 49:34.740] You're expected back here. [49:35.760 --> 49:36.400] Thank you. [49:36.660 --> 49:36.980] Thank you. [49:36.980 --> 49:37.320] No problem. [49:37.720 --> 49:38.100] Love you. [49:48.560 --> 49:49.200] Oh, yeah. [49:49.420 --> 49:50.320] Actually, I'll do that now. [49:50.460 --> 49:52.780] Does anyone have any last thoughts? [49:52.920 --> 49:53.380] Final E? [49:53.740 --> 49:55.560] I was going to say one thing. [49:55.820 --> 49:56.660] Only one thing. [49:56.980 --> 49:57.680] Two things. [49:58.240 --> 49:59.220] Two things now. [49:59.400 --> 50:00.500] You know, this is like... [50:01.060 --> 50:01.120] Three! [50:01.580 --> 50:03.340] And I was going to talk about teardown, too. [50:03.580 --> 50:04.080] Oh, okay. [50:04.200 --> 50:04.280] Yeah. [50:04.500 --> 50:05.240] Well, I'll let you handle that. [50:05.300 --> 50:07.780] Online cancer research for 25 minutes. [50:08.500 --> 50:08.720] Okay. [50:08.880 --> 50:09.160] Exactly. [50:09.520 --> 50:09.680] All right. [50:10.440 --> 50:10.940] All right. [50:10.940 --> 50:11.220] Fully. [50:13.300 --> 50:15.560] As Greg said, feedback at hope.net. [50:15.940 --> 50:18.640] Really important and a crucial resource for us going forward. [50:18.980 --> 50:21.720] I also want to talk about post-HOPE stuff. [50:21.920 --> 50:22.900] Please keep talking about it. [50:23.060 --> 50:24.520] There's this thing with conferences. [50:24.680 --> 50:26.020] Sometimes people kind of crash. [50:26.220 --> 50:28.700] You get this high of like hanging out with people. [50:29.320 --> 50:29.980] Personal thing. [50:30.100 --> 50:30.940] You're around a lot of people. [50:31.080 --> 50:31.500] You're social. [50:31.700 --> 50:32.480] And then you go back. [50:33.060 --> 50:34.780] So, I think an antidote to... [50:34.780 --> 50:36.840] I fall victim to this. [50:36.980 --> 50:38.980] I'm not going to get into personal stuff too much. [50:39.100 --> 50:40.620] But I felt it last year a lot. [50:40.740 --> 50:41.800] There was a lot of calamity. [50:41.900 --> 50:42.860] A lot of things hitting us. [50:43.240 --> 50:45.100] And it compounded many times. [50:45.260 --> 50:49.160] And I just think the antidote is really keep talking about hope in your lives. [50:49.360 --> 50:50.400] Enroll your friends. [50:50.400 --> 50:52.340] Tell people about your experience. [50:53.440 --> 50:58.580] And do all of the kinds of things that were advised in a lot of these wonderful talks over the weekend. [50:58.720 --> 51:03.140] That would be my kind of paraphrasing of sentiments. [51:03.480 --> 51:04.940] So, absolutely. [51:05.260 --> 51:06.580] And additionally, fuck cancer. [51:07.460 --> 51:13.400] And for all of the teardown stuff, I think we're going to be sort of meeting around InfoDesk in Marilac Terrace. [51:13.400 --> 51:15.060] And we can take all hands on deck. [51:15.240 --> 51:15.720] That's it. [51:16.560 --> 51:17.860] Many hands make light work. [51:17.860 --> 51:22.840] If you're interested in volunteering next year, please send an email to volunteers at hope.net. [51:23.220 --> 51:24.200] I get those emails. [51:24.420 --> 51:27.580] I'll be very happy to talk to you Tuesday, please. [51:30.220 --> 51:34.820] But even if you decide next week, the next month, whatever, we get those emails. [51:34.960 --> 51:36.400] And again, feedback at hope.net. [51:36.520 --> 51:37.040] It's crucial. [51:37.360 --> 51:40.360] I heard some things this year that actually made me a little sad. [51:40.520 --> 51:44.320] Someone was going to write an email, but they felt it was going to be too sad and depressing. [51:44.520 --> 51:46.520] And clearly they know nothing about my personal life. [51:46.520 --> 51:51.520] So, you know, trust me, it won't ever be that bad. [51:52.780 --> 51:57.560] Yeah, we want all the criticism, all the good, all the bad, the things you didn't like, the things you did. [51:57.740 --> 52:00.580] But mostly the things you didn't like so we can make them better next year. [52:02.060 --> 52:02.900] That's pretty much it. [52:03.900 --> 52:06.940] And Liz, I want to thank you for all of your tireless work. [52:16.760 --> 52:18.600] Now, you're saying tireless? [52:18.760 --> 52:19.560] I'm exhausted. [52:19.580 --> 52:20.740] I'm going to bed when I go home. [52:21.780 --> 52:26.180] And Lindsay, all the registration, the answering all the emails. [52:26.360 --> 52:27.220] I don't know how you did it. [52:27.220 --> 52:28.980] I never want to see another email again. [52:30.380 --> 52:31.140] That's healthy. [52:31.860 --> 52:33.120] And so many others. [52:37.490 --> 52:40.510] But mostly you guys, you made it possible. [52:40.870 --> 52:43.990] If you weren't such magical people, we couldn't do this. [52:44.090 --> 52:44.790] We didn't want to do this. [52:44.790 --> 52:46.850] So we hope we see you next time. [52:46.950 --> 52:47.990] We hope there is a next time. [52:48.150 --> 52:54.050] We hope that it continues to grow and that we, you know, we all help build a better world. [52:54.230 --> 52:56.930] Because, boy, you know, we're being kicked around a lot lately. [52:56.930 --> 52:58.890] But I'm optimistic. [53:00.790 --> 53:01.850] So anything else? [53:02.430 --> 53:03.150] Well, that's it for me. [53:03.410 --> 53:04.050] Get home safe. [53:04.130 --> 53:06.990] Yeah, get home safe or stick around and help us pack up. [53:07.150 --> 53:08.510] Yeah, pack up and get home safe. [53:08.690 --> 53:09.850] You can lose your badge now. [53:10.170 --> 53:12.510] You can finally lose your badge. [53:12.890 --> 53:13.690] If you must. [53:13.690 --> 53:14.430] Thank you.