[00:02.260 --> 00:03.020]  Music
[00:18.400 --> 00:20.980]  You look much better without it.
[00:21.140 --> 00:22.180]  Don't go back.
[00:24.380 --> 00:27.180]  And while you're at it... Hey guys, I'm coming for blood.
[00:29.340 --> 00:30.200]  Hey, what's up?
[00:32.300 --> 00:33.440]  This is the r00t panel.
[00:33.780 --> 00:35.480]  Only four of 27 of us are here.
[00:37.780 --> 00:47.000]  Much of the L0pht seems to think that I should be the one to speak about the really elite stuff, but that isn't going to happen since mostly we're here to dispel some rumors about r00t.
[00:48.120 --> 00:48.980]  Do you want to go for that?
[00:48.980 --> 01:00.600]  Well, while the people at the L0pht and the people at CDC are off promoting various operating systems, we gave that a try with our own r00t OS.
[01:01.000 --> 01:04.060]  You've probably never heard about it and that's for a very good reason.
[01:04.200 --> 01:06.780]  That's because it didn't get very far.
[01:09.500 --> 01:24.820]  Instead, what we at r00t are doing is, and this is sort of an unusual step because it's a case of the North boys overstepping the South boys on a firearms issue.
[01:24.820 --> 01:29.180]  And I think that has mainly to do with Craig moving up here and being sort of...
[01:29.180 --> 01:29.540]  No real names.
[01:30.280 --> 01:30.760]  Oh.
[01:31.400 --> 01:31.880]  Okay.
[01:32.160 --> 01:33.180]  No real names?
[01:33.340 --> 01:33.920]  No real names.
[01:34.640 --> 01:35.260]  Why not?
[01:35.260 --> 01:35.880]  Why not?
[01:35.880 --> 01:36.560]  Well, just introduce yourselves.
[01:36.780 --> 01:37.040]  Well, yeah.
[01:37.220 --> 01:41.340]  I'm RS, and we've come to the conclusion over the course of this show.
[01:41.460 --> 01:44.220]  Unfortunately, you don't have one because New York City laws will show you.
[01:44.340 --> 01:52.540]  But we've come to the conclusion over the course of this law that we are going to go ahead and endorse of course, the SIG 229 as the official r00t handgun.
[01:53.340 --> 01:58.740]  And that's really all that I have to say.
[01:59.080 --> 02:00.760]  This is Entropy, and he's asleep.
[02:01.340 --> 02:02.780]  Hi, this is Loki, and I'm Hosaka.
[02:03.020 --> 02:07.640]  Basically, what Emmanuel gave me the opportunity to expel some rumors about r00t.
[02:07.980 --> 02:10.080]  r00t is about three to four years old.
[02:10.200 --> 02:11.440]  It originally started as a joke.
[02:13.180 --> 02:15.080]  What do you mean, originally started as?
[02:15.180 --> 02:16.540]  Do you mean it is still a joke?
[02:16.540 --> 02:17.840]  It still should be a joke.
[02:18.320 --> 02:21.520]  Granted, now we're 27 members strong, spread out across the country.
[02:22.420 --> 02:25.420]  And collectively, we are technically brilliant.
[02:25.900 --> 02:27.020]  We own everybody.
[02:27.280 --> 02:33.760]  But we need to dispel some rumors because we found that some federal agencies are taking us seriously.
[02:34.700 --> 02:38.540]  When I told Hosaka this, I saw Coca-Cola come squirting out of his nose.
[02:38.680 --> 02:39.380]  It was really funny.
[02:41.840 --> 02:45.360]  We were at DEF CON when I heard that some federal agencies were taking us seriously.
[02:45.900 --> 02:49.160]  We need to dispel those rumors because we don't do anything malicious.
[02:49.840 --> 02:51.820]  I need this opportunity to tell everyone that.
[02:51.900 --> 02:52.740]  We don't do anything illegal.
[02:52.740 --> 02:53.840]  We don't do anything, period.
[02:54.380 --> 02:55.040]  Yeah, illegal, period.
[02:55.260 --> 02:55.940]  We don't do anything illegal.
[02:55.980 --> 02:57.140]  No, we don't do anything, period.
[03:01.140 --> 03:04.060]  But I mean, spread out across country, I'm sure that people can...
[03:04.060 --> 03:12.860]  I understand why some people may think that we are malicious or evil or the bad hacker element, so to speak, but I mean, we try to do as much good as possible.
[03:13.080 --> 03:16.460]  Our membership includes the editors of Phrack magazine.
[03:17.260 --> 03:19.080]  I mean, it is pretty widespread.
[03:19.620 --> 03:24.280]  This is mostly to dispel those rumors because we don't want to be arrested by the feds.
[03:24.420 --> 03:25.720]  It's just not a good thing.
[03:27.960 --> 03:29.940]  It's not just that we don't do anything with that.
[03:30.080 --> 03:32.300]  I mean, we have a lot of projects in...
[03:33.600 --> 03:36.640]  in the works, which is like the loft space, but we're going to have a New York space.
[03:37.120 --> 03:47.120]  I don't know if anyone's been to NotWork, which is HOPE's, or 2600 is a loft in the city, but the root space will eventually have enough servers so that anybody can timeshare on them.
[03:47.240 --> 03:51.940]  You just come in and say, hey, I need to run a project, but I don't have the server to run it on.
[03:52.140 --> 03:55.060]  You can come in and just do it off of our servers and do it that way.
[03:55.240 --> 03:55.280]  Yeah.
[03:55.840 --> 03:57.620]  Our full repositories will hold everything.
[03:58.400 --> 03:59.400]  That was the future plan.
[04:00.520 --> 04:01.860]  Our website is up.
[04:02.020 --> 04:03.040]  It always has been up.
[04:03.220 --> 04:06.060]  It's just that we had some difficulties with the Internet as of late.
[04:06.320 --> 04:12.200]  But you'll find that the archive is actually much bigger than some of the archives you find on the net.
[04:14.160 --> 04:15.880]  I have almost a gig of stuff now.
[04:16.960 --> 04:18.080]  So we have all...
[04:18.080 --> 04:18.880]  It's not on my server.
[04:19.100 --> 04:20.240]  It's going to be.
[04:21.080 --> 04:22.820]  I'll give you the penny in pro for it.
[04:22.900 --> 04:28.080]  All right, real soon now, we're going to have one of the biggest archives on the net of all sorts of stuff.
[04:28.900 --> 04:30.520]  Essentially, just anything you can think of.
[04:30.700 --> 04:36.420]  Granted, we're mostly, like, UNIX schmucks, but we do roll into the NT once in a while.
[04:36.620 --> 04:39.020]  I mean, that's pretty much is L0pht's little gig.
[04:39.740 --> 04:40.920]  Why don't you talk to us about the story?
[04:41.320 --> 04:42.500]  What am I going to talk about?
[05:14.680 --> 05:20.040]  We just need, really, the opportunity to dispel some rumors, because you have no idea what it's like to be kind of freaked out.
[05:20.040 --> 05:24.400]  And have the potential to be raided by a Fed one day.
[05:25.820 --> 05:29.340]  Well, actually, we would be happy to take questions from people.
[05:29.440 --> 05:32.080]  If anybody has heard a rumor about us...
[05:32.080 --> 05:44.460]  It's good to have one or two people sort of interested in you, but to be 27 people spread across the country, working for some of the biggest network service providers, programming houses, and engineering companies.
[05:45.280 --> 05:48.620]  If you are Fed, why don't you start thinking, hey, that's a little bit like organized crime.
[05:49.120 --> 05:54.860]  Well, the rumor that I heard that I found particularly worrisome is that we actually do anything at all.
[05:55.160 --> 05:55.400]  Right.
[05:55.580 --> 06:01.820]  I mean, there are people going out around there, hacking sites, and sticking our names on the end of them, and signing them, saying that we did them.
[06:02.320 --> 06:02.980]  Who was one of them?
[06:03.020 --> 06:03.700]  Bay Networks?
[06:03.900 --> 06:04.200]  Bay...
[06:04.200 --> 06:05.260]  Yeah, Bay got hacked.
[06:05.580 --> 06:07.620]  Yeah, the Bay site got hacked.
[06:08.140 --> 06:10.240]  And on the bottom of it, we're crediting r00t.
[06:10.740 --> 06:12.660]  And we had nothing to do with that.
[06:13.040 --> 06:18.480]  I mean, there are sites all across the net being hacked, and being signed with our logos and stuff, that we just have nothing to do with.
[06:18.700 --> 06:20.240]  And we're taking the heat for it.
[06:20.280 --> 06:21.980]  And we're just too old to be doing shit like that.
[06:22.520 --> 06:25.080]  I mean, quite honestly, we make too much money.
[06:25.240 --> 06:25.780]  We just...
[06:25.780 --> 06:27.480]  Age alone, we're too lame to be doing things like that.
[06:27.480 --> 06:27.660]  Exactly.
[06:27.980 --> 06:38.060]  We're just too... I mean, we'd love to tell you and sit here and tell you how to take down networks and stuff, but I mean, that sort of stuff isn't even announced.
[06:38.220 --> 06:39.460]  Most people don't even know about it.
[06:39.660 --> 06:42.400]  Only about four or five engineers across the net can know how to take down the net.
[06:43.200 --> 06:45.960]  And granted, we're not about to spill those kind of secrets onto the net.
[06:46.140 --> 06:48.540]  Granted, stuff like L0phtCrack coming out of the L0pht is brilliant.
[06:49.020 --> 06:52.680]  I mean, Weld and Mudge are great guys, but they're a lot more organized than we are.
[06:52.980 --> 06:55.680]  We just don't want anyone to think that we're as organized as that.
[06:55.860 --> 06:56.820]  We're not organized.
[06:57.100 --> 06:57.800]  We're not organized.
[06:58.520 --> 07:00.880]  We're just a bunch of guys that love to just hang out with each other.
[07:01.000 --> 07:01.640]  We just get along.
[07:06.260 --> 07:10.520]  We aren't one-tenth as organized as you'd have to be to do all the stuff that's attributed to us.
[07:10.700 --> 07:16.340]  I mean, I see a lot of kids coming up these days and making their own little groups.
[07:16.540 --> 07:21.220]  I mean, I get mail every week saying, hey, you guys are the LOD or the MOD of the 90s.
[07:21.300 --> 07:24.700]  And I see Goggins on the weekend, he's like, you've got to be a crack.
[07:24.880 --> 07:26.800]  Why do you even want to be associated with anything like that?
[07:26.960 --> 07:27.780]  And he's absolutely right.
[07:27.800 --> 07:29.040]  We don't want to be investigated.
[07:30.540 --> 07:32.960]  It's just an environment where it needs to be split up.
[07:33.100 --> 07:37.620]  And I also kind of want to smash on some script kiddies, but I won't do that today.
[07:38.780 --> 07:40.180]  I want to dispel the rumors.
[07:42.580 --> 07:48.020]  So, we really don't anticipate there to be any questions, but we'd like to open the floor up to questions just the same.
[07:48.240 --> 07:49.300]  Just one more thing.
[07:49.480 --> 07:50.740]  I mean...
[07:50.740 --> 07:54.940]  And anybody who wants to come up here and give answers for us is more than welcome to as well.
[07:55.840 --> 07:57.380]  I mean, I know some...
[07:57.380 --> 08:01.220]  Going back to what some of the kids start in groups these days, I just want you guys to be careful.
[08:02.680 --> 08:06.180]  It's one thing to start a group of four to five kids in a local area.
[08:06.540 --> 08:10.620]  But, I mean, once you start gathering attention, it doesn't become that fun anymore.
[08:10.760 --> 08:11.960]  It's a lot of responsibility.
[08:13.600 --> 08:15.120]  Fan mail is fan mail that we...
[08:15.120 --> 08:17.120]  I mean, I receive maybe 20 pieces of fan mail a week.
[08:17.120 --> 08:25.700]  And that's not a lot, considering Rout, who is also a member of r00t and also the head editor of Phrack magazine, gets something on the average of like 50 to 100 pieces of fan mail.
[08:27.120 --> 08:28.080]  He's a media whore.
[08:28.180 --> 08:29.100]  He is our media whore.
[08:29.980 --> 08:42.100]  But, I mean, a lot of the Phrack contribution and all the other magazine contribution and the ties that we have to almost every other group, like the Guild or L0pht or CDC or any of those groups, it's just a bunch of guys having fun.
[08:42.240 --> 08:43.080]  That's all it is.
[08:43.080 --> 08:49.440]  And once you guys start taking it a little bit too seriously, you're going to find yourself in a whole world of trouble that you just do not want to be a part of.
[08:49.620 --> 08:57.900]  I would say that given the amount of stuff that we have done outside of sitting around and grousing about the Internet, it's amazing that you get any fan mail.
[08:58.480 --> 08:59.300]  I get it, yeah.
[08:59.880 --> 09:02.680]  I mean, it's just really weird.
[09:02.740 --> 09:03.640]  You should be aware of it.
[09:03.880 --> 09:06.260]  So, we had a question from the front row here.
[09:07.260 --> 09:10.360]  I'm actually going to be really interested to see what this is.
[09:13.700 --> 09:14.500]  Oh, no.
[09:14.660 --> 09:15.780]  Okay, I'll turn one around for you.
[09:16.160 --> 09:16.660]  Sounds good.
[09:16.980 --> 09:22.520]  Okay, could you clarify about your statement that you said before that we own you?
[09:22.800 --> 09:26.340]  What do you own specifically and how do you own it?
[09:26.580 --> 09:27.840]  Okay, three years ago we own it.
[09:28.020 --> 09:33.020]  The root mantra is that we only look stupid because we choose to act stupid.
[09:33.420 --> 09:33.780]  P.S.
[09:33.800 --> 09:34.460]  We own you.
[09:34.460 --> 09:38.240]  And there is sort of a zen to that just as...
[09:38.240 --> 09:41.440]  There's sort of a zen to the church of the subgeniuses.
[09:43.640 --> 09:44.680]  What would the root?
[09:44.680 --> 09:45.720]  Owning is a way of life.
[09:45.900 --> 09:47.340]  I mean, owning is believing.
[09:49.300 --> 09:50.460]  Historically, owning is...
[09:51.040 --> 09:52.220]  The pride of ownership.
[09:52.440 --> 09:52.760]  Exactly.
[09:53.040 --> 09:55.760]  Pretty much being able to break into a machine and owning it.
[09:57.200 --> 09:57.640]  r00t.
[09:58.040 --> 10:01.380]  Or, you know, getting the enable passwords on a core router or something.
[10:01.380 --> 10:05.920]  But, I mean, owning has changed from our perspective.
[10:06.080 --> 10:07.440]  It's now part of eliteness.
[10:07.560 --> 10:11.960]  I mean, you'd be surprised how many kids just come up to us at cons and just don't say anything.
[10:12.120 --> 10:16.280]  I mean, would be so afraid to come near us because they think we're going to destroy them or something.
[10:16.460 --> 10:17.440]  We're totally not like that.
[10:17.500 --> 10:21.320]  We're just a bunch of guys that get too drunk on cons and, you know, just have a great time.
[10:21.820 --> 10:22.540]  That's exactly...
[10:22.540 --> 10:24.660]  I mean, it's just really hilarious.
[10:24.840 --> 10:26.320]  I mean, granted, collectively, we could...
[10:26.320 --> 10:27.580]  If we wanted to, yeah.
[10:27.980 --> 10:28.440]  We could...
[10:29.100 --> 10:29.460]  Probably.
[10:29.460 --> 10:35.740]  If we could get off our asses and actually wanted to do something, we could cause mass havoc.
[10:35.900 --> 10:39.800]  I mean, 27 people spread across the country working for some of the largest companies.
[10:39.900 --> 10:40.060]  Yeah.
[10:40.740 --> 10:42.560]  It gives us a tremendous amount of access.
[10:42.820 --> 10:46.660]  But at the same time, we're also, like, all in our mid-20s.
[10:47.160 --> 10:48.840]  We have decent salaries and jobs.
[10:48.840 --> 10:52.500]  We're not about to risk that for a federal prison term.
[10:53.340 --> 10:56.980]  So, in summary, we own you is meant to be a facetious...
[10:57.220 --> 11:01.740]  A facetious slogan that really doesn't have much to do with reality.
[11:02.020 --> 11:02.380]  Exactly.
[11:02.940 --> 11:03.660]  It's basically like...
[11:03.660 --> 11:05.760]  It's basically like everything else to do with the room.
[11:05.820 --> 11:06.100]  It's a joke.
[11:06.100 --> 11:08.580]  Are those hecklers lining up at that microphone up there?
[11:08.760 --> 11:09.640]  Oh, they're...
[11:09.640 --> 11:09.960]  Okay.
[11:09.960 --> 11:10.040]  All right.
[11:10.240 --> 11:10.640]  I'm sorry.
[11:10.800 --> 11:11.040]  I didn't see...
[11:11.040 --> 11:11.300]  All right.
[11:11.380 --> 11:11.580]  Go ahead.
[11:12.520 --> 11:17.140]  Basically, I come to this with very little knowledge.
[11:17.820 --> 11:19.760]  But I have three questions for you.
[11:20.000 --> 11:20.320]  Sure.
[11:20.680 --> 11:24.660]  First, what are these things you're alleged to have done?
[11:25.240 --> 11:25.820]  What did you say?
[11:25.860 --> 11:26.460]  That's the first.
[11:26.640 --> 11:27.220]  What is it...
[11:27.220 --> 11:33.680]  I mean, I've got no idea this massive reputation, undeserved reputation, that you're talking about.
[11:33.860 --> 11:34.360]  I don't...
[11:34.360 --> 11:36.060]  As I say, I come to this very cold.
[11:37.020 --> 11:43.500]  Second, would it even be possible for a person to make these things happen?
[11:43.640 --> 11:45.520]  For human beings to make these things happen?
[11:45.780 --> 11:47.300]  The sun rose this morning.
[11:47.680 --> 11:49.840]  Nobody had to intervene to make that happen.
[11:52.120 --> 11:56.180]  And third, that escapes my mind.
[11:56.400 --> 12:06.740]  So, if you answer those two questions, I'd appreciate knowing what these things are, especially, that you're alleged to have done.
[12:07.120 --> 12:08.320]  And could it...
[12:08.320 --> 12:09.480]  Could it...
[12:09.480 --> 12:13.060]  Could human agency be involved in these things?
[12:14.080 --> 12:16.200]  I'm sorry, can you speak up just a little bit?
[12:16.860 --> 12:17.740]  Oh, are you serious?
[12:17.960 --> 12:18.360]  Oh, all right.
[12:18.480 --> 12:18.620]  All right.
[12:19.540 --> 12:24.560]  We're getting a newfound respect for the people who get to sit up here without a studio monitor pointing at them.
[12:26.420 --> 12:34.020]  What I want to know is, what are these things that you're alleged to have done, whether or not you've done them?
[12:35.160 --> 12:37.040]  We don't do anything.
[12:37.600 --> 12:38.120]  Literally.
[12:38.460 --> 12:41.260]  Well, you speak every so often, that much at least.
[12:41.840 --> 12:49.420]  And second, it almost sounds like these are what you're talking about.
[12:49.540 --> 12:51.840]  And I have no idea, really, what these things are.
[12:52.100 --> 12:52.780]  That's good.
[12:52.920 --> 12:55.500]  That they're impossible to be done.
[12:55.700 --> 13:00.220]  It's almost like that something happened.
[13:00.400 --> 13:01.300]  Nobody did it.
[13:01.420 --> 13:02.760]  Let's find somebody to blame.
[13:02.980 --> 13:06.260]  I don't know if this is the sort of thing that you're talking about.
[13:09.320 --> 13:14.900]  We categorically deny any involvement with anything more illegal than jaywalking from the phones across the street over to here.
[13:15.480 --> 13:22.040]  The simple fact of the matter is that most of the people in route don't have the time to be involved in anything illegal.
[13:22.920 --> 13:28.520]  But it mostly goes to say that, yeah, if we wanted to, yeah, sure we could.
[13:28.720 --> 13:32.200]  But do we make a conscious decision not to break the law?
[13:32.200 --> 13:42.520]  Well, we find ourselves in a curious situation here, wherein we're actually more stuff than actually really happens that ends up being attributed to us.
[13:42.880 --> 13:51.200]  I have newfound respect for the Jewish bankers and the Masons, and not to mention the Bilderbergers and the Trilateralists.
[13:54.420 --> 13:57.440]  That's exactly what it sounds like you're talking about.
[13:59.780 --> 14:07.160]  That's not to say that we can... that's not to say that we deny categorically that we own the world in some sort of spiritual sense.
[14:07.560 --> 14:11.720]  And that we're actually controlling stuff behind the scenes, but we're not doing anything illegal.
[14:12.560 --> 14:14.300]  Oh, that's a large claim, yes.
[14:14.580 --> 14:16.080]  I mean, let me hand us an excerpt.
[14:16.500 --> 14:18.640]  I mean, just...
[14:18.640 --> 14:20.600]  What is this undeserved reputation?
[14:20.600 --> 14:21.280]  Well, let's think about that.
[14:21.280 --> 14:27.240]  Look, I don't know deed one that you're accused... that it said you've done.
[14:27.360 --> 14:32.900]  And I don't know if the word accused even applies if nothing illegal has been going on.
[14:32.980 --> 14:34.860]  It's just fun and games.
[14:35.020 --> 14:36.540]  I don't know what's being talked about.
[14:36.920 --> 14:37.100]  Okay.
[14:37.200 --> 14:45.200]  And it sounds like right now what you're trying to do is just get the heat off you that you don't have any use for.
[14:45.960 --> 14:47.320]  It's not that we don't have any use for.
[14:47.400 --> 14:55.760]  It's just that we can't afford to have these illegal activities attributed to us when we're not responsible for them.
[14:56.140 --> 15:01.060]  I mean, granted, if we did something, most likely we'll admit to it because we have no problems with it.
[15:01.100 --> 15:02.160]  We won't permit anything illegal.
[15:02.300 --> 15:07.480]  But if we just did something to a friend's machine as a practical joke, I mean, yeah, it's just like a practical joke.
[15:08.580 --> 15:13.620]  But you have to understand that we shouldn't have to be attributed to something that we didn't do.
[15:14.620 --> 15:22.720]  We've gotten to the point where our membership in the so-called hacker community are pretty much the elites.
[15:22.940 --> 15:24.680]  I mean, they...
[15:25.280 --> 15:25.960]  It's true.
[15:26.640 --> 15:34.520]  Craig doesn't like to admit to it, but the truth of the matter is all 27 people of r00t have always been pretty much...
[15:34.520 --> 15:35.560]  Don't use the E word.
[15:35.920 --> 15:36.400]  Right.
[15:38.320 --> 15:42.120]  The way I see it, you guys are three or... actually, four.
[15:42.300 --> 15:42.500]  I'm sorry.
[15:42.600 --> 15:43.300]  This guy's asleep here.
[15:43.940 --> 15:54.080]  Out of a whole bunch of people who amongst the computer technical community, you guys happen to be well-respected because you have a very intensely high degree of technical skill.
[15:54.080 --> 16:00.980]  Very fundamental to the core operations of Internet, telecommunications, etc.
[16:01.280 --> 16:04.080]  So for that, you have a well-deserved respect.
[16:04.240 --> 16:09.700]  And there's probably a lot of people in this room and a lot of people who want to beat you or have your skill.
[16:09.940 --> 16:25.120]  And therefore, with all the disinformation and the kind of chic glorification of bad boys like Wired Magazine pumps out to the Coca-Cola, Jolt-Cola consuming public or whatever, and movies like Hackers or whatever, it glorifies it.
[16:25.220 --> 16:36.880]  So there's probably a lot of wannabes who found that bug in the NT Ethernet card or whatever and got in the back door and put your logo on the site because, hee-hee, we're root, man.
[16:37.120 --> 16:38.880]  Maybe Wired Magazine will print it.
[16:39.160 --> 16:49.120]  So what I'm seeing is basically is that there's a lot of perhaps wannabes posing, giving you guys credit because they think it's cool and you don't.
[16:49.120 --> 16:55.540]  And it's unfortunate that people are misbehaving that way and you have to take the heat.
[16:56.060 --> 16:57.020]  Is that a fair assumption?
[16:57.240 --> 16:58.220]  Do you want to come up here and speak?
[16:58.620 --> 17:02.400]  No, no, I'm just... No, because, you know, I personally, like, have a high...
[17:02.400 --> 17:02.820]  No, I agree with you.
[17:02.840 --> 17:03.900]  I have a high amount of respect.
[17:03.900 --> 17:06.940]  If you continue down this track, you're likely to end up drafted as the root spokesman.
[17:07.460 --> 17:07.820]  Say what?
[17:08.140 --> 17:09.240]  You can have my seat.
[17:09.500 --> 17:10.620]  Anyway, I'm a very good media...
[17:10.620 --> 17:11.560]  I mean, you're actually right.
[17:11.560 --> 17:12.400]  ...my business, but...
[17:12.400 --> 17:15.780]  You've done a better job explaining this than we ever could, actually.
[17:15.780 --> 17:17.060]  Thank you, we can talk about this later.
[17:17.060 --> 17:36.700]  No, but anyway, I just want to say that having never seen you guys and knowing what you can do behind the scenes, I just want to give you my greatest admiration because what you do makes what I do possible, not having your level of skill, and if you ever find yourselves perhaps in a position where I could employ you,
[17:36.800 --> 17:38.200]  I would be very happy to do so.
[17:38.320 --> 17:39.760]  Let's have a round of applause for these guys.
[17:39.760 --> 17:44.280]  And stop these bullshit lynchings.
[17:44.880 --> 17:54.880]  And, you know, if there's anything that they have to share, I came here to hear what I could learn from these guys, not to sit here and look at them at the Nuremberg process here.
[17:54.880 --> 17:55.840]  Have you been drinking tonight?
[17:56.120 --> 17:56.700]  Not at all.
[17:56.940 --> 17:57.740]  No, I like this guy.
[17:58.020 --> 17:58.240]  You need to start.
[17:58.440 --> 18:00.740]  You pretty much said exactly what I wanted to say.
[18:00.740 --> 18:01.560]  I mean...
[18:01.560 --> 18:13.640]  So, what I'm asking you guys now is if there's anything enlightening technically that we should know, like new things or whatever, share your knowledge on that level and stop defending yourself and don't apologize for what you're great at doing.
[18:14.140 --> 18:16.680]  And I really want to congratulate you.
[18:16.680 --> 18:31.880]  Normally, at the smaller cons, what we've done is had root panels, have all 27 of us or as many of us there are at the cons, usually about half of the members, get up on a panel and let the entire audience, you know, pick our brains.
[18:32.100 --> 18:39.120]  Yeah, I think really what I'd rather hear, instead of you guys apologizing, man, you know, let's have like, you know, a bug festival, man.
[18:39.260 --> 18:47.560]  Like, you know, why don't we do a bug fest like for a weekend or something and bring all you guys down and then you can just tell what people need to do to fix things.
[18:47.720 --> 18:50.220]  See, that's kind of like defeating the purpose of why we even came here.
[18:50.320 --> 18:51.620]  I mean, we usually do that at the cons.
[18:52.480 --> 18:55.720]  And the moment we start talking about bugs or...
[18:57.320 --> 18:59.460]  I won't even mention any in particular ones.
[18:59.740 --> 19:00.340]  No, you don't need to.
[19:00.540 --> 19:08.580]  If the moment we do that is the moment we sort of are trying to defeat the purpose of what we're trying to say here today, that we're not responsible for this stuff.
[19:08.760 --> 19:11.200]  Grant, yeah, obviously we know this stuff or we wouldn't be rude.
[19:11.600 --> 19:15.240]  Collectively, it's mostly like a technical forum, so to speak.
[19:15.340 --> 19:15.680]  Of course.
[19:15.800 --> 19:17.840]  I think that this is the essence of it.
[19:17.840 --> 19:27.840]  And then again, I mean, if by after like 72 hours at this conference, people here haven't gotten the message that criminal hacking is exactly that.
[19:28.140 --> 19:30.760]  In fact, it's not even hacking.
[19:30.760 --> 19:31.620]  It's criminal.
[19:31.800 --> 19:33.100]  If it's done such...
[19:33.100 --> 19:33.960]  Forget it, man.
[19:34.000 --> 19:34.760]  We know this already.
[19:34.880 --> 19:36.880]  Now let's go on and let's like do positive things.
[19:36.880 --> 19:38.620]  Take it one step beyond that.
[19:38.900 --> 19:39.080]  Please.
[19:39.320 --> 19:41.000]  It's in many cases not even funny anymore.
[19:41.380 --> 19:41.880]  It's not funny.
[19:42.120 --> 19:50.400]  Breaking into a website and changing the contents of it was funny sort of a year and a half ago when it first happened, maybe two years ago.
[19:50.800 --> 19:54.320]  And it's turned into the same joke being told over and over and over again.
[19:55.760 --> 19:57.740]  And I wouldn't waste my time doing it.
[19:57.740 --> 19:58.240]  No, it's old.
[19:58.380 --> 20:01.640]  I would rather hear like the kind of constructive stuff that you guys are good at doing.
[20:01.660 --> 20:06.660]  If you want to break into a machine, buy it yourselves, run the OS, run the apps, and break it yourself.
[20:06.920 --> 20:09.220]  There's no reason to touch anybody else's machine.
[20:09.380 --> 20:13.080]  I was saying, you're wanting us to get up here and actually give you information about bugs and exploits.
[20:13.200 --> 20:15.800]  That would actually be counterproductive for us because...
[20:16.320 --> 20:16.400]  Well, no.
[20:16.420 --> 20:17.520]  I'm not asking you to say that.
[20:18.160 --> 20:22.720]  I'm saying, you know, I'm not asking you to divulge like how to, you know.
[20:22.800 --> 20:22.820]  No, no, no.
[20:22.820 --> 20:23.380]  I understand that.
[20:24.020 --> 20:25.100]  That would be ridiculous.
[20:25.260 --> 20:36.400]  Even speaking about that would be kind of against the point we're trying to make, which is that r00t is basically a bunch of guys who get together, hang out, and don't do anything.
[20:37.320 --> 20:40.540]  So, coming up here and talking about exploits and stuff would be...
[20:40.540 --> 20:41.540]  Coming up here...
[20:41.540 --> 20:42.660]  I mean, we've done it in the past.
[20:43.380 --> 20:44.740]  It's just not...
[20:44.740 --> 20:46.360]  HOPE is not a good form for it.
[20:47.820 --> 20:48.180]  Because...
[20:49.700 --> 20:50.060]  What?
[20:51.640 --> 20:54.420]  I don't think it would be a good time to start talking about exploits.
[20:54.740 --> 20:57.340]  And granted, I'm sure on one-on-one, yeah, we'd probably discuss it.
[20:57.340 --> 20:57.980]  But...
[20:58.500 --> 21:01.180]  In a form-wide, it's not the place to...
[21:01.180 --> 21:02.820]  No, I'm talking more routine stuff.
[21:03.000 --> 21:05.160]  You know, guys like you know how to keep a network really running.
[21:05.600 --> 21:07.980]  Help people here have a knowledge to do that.
[21:08.100 --> 21:09.540]  It's not about breaking things anyway.
[21:09.700 --> 21:10.800]  It's about running code, right?
[21:11.340 --> 21:12.020]  What do you want to know?
[21:12.480 --> 21:13.200]  Wouldn't you agree?
[21:13.320 --> 21:14.820]  I would say that in my opinion...
[21:15.400 --> 21:19.280]  Come on up and see us after the show and we'll explain our rate schedule to you.
[21:19.560 --> 21:20.240]  Okay, man.
[21:20.480 --> 21:20.880]  Thanks a lot.
[21:21.040 --> 21:22.060]  I guess other people are waiting.
[21:24.540 --> 21:25.020]  Hi.
[21:25.800 --> 21:28.220]  You guys claim that you don't do anything.
[21:29.080 --> 21:32.380]  You get a lot of credit for doing something.
[21:32.720 --> 21:34.120]  One of you appears to be asleep.
[21:34.740 --> 21:37.100]  Have any of you considered a career in law enforcement?
[21:40.520 --> 21:42.140]  As a matter of fact...
[21:42.140 --> 21:44.640]  That crosses my mind from time to time, but...
[21:44.640 --> 21:47.180]  Some of us are actually employed by the federal government, but...
[21:47.180 --> 21:51.920]  The Internet is actually a lot more lucrative place to make ones living these days.
[21:53.200 --> 21:57.580]  If they started paying $150 an hour consulting fees, I'm there.
[21:58.700 --> 22:00.620]  I mean, we're not kids anymore.
[22:00.800 --> 22:01.560]  I mean, eventually...
[22:01.560 --> 22:03.080]  I see a lot of young faces here.
[22:03.080 --> 22:05.540]  Eventually they're going to grow up and they're going to be paid a lot of money.
[22:06.060 --> 22:06.980]  I mean, we have members...
[22:06.980 --> 22:08.140]  Our youngest member is what?
[22:08.220 --> 22:08.460]  How old?
[22:09.360 --> 22:09.760]  18.
[22:11.280 --> 22:13.540]  And this kid's already making a six-figure salary.
[22:13.720 --> 22:14.000]  Granted.
[22:14.820 --> 22:16.940]  All root is, is like our own technical form.
[22:17.080 --> 22:17.940]  It is...
[22:17.940 --> 22:20.360]  Most of us rely on each other for our technical expertise.
[22:20.700 --> 22:22.520]  We can't figure out someone else in root camp.
[22:22.760 --> 22:23.740]  So, it's a collective.
[22:24.920 --> 22:32.220]  You think that it's kind of easy for someone like us to come up here and talk about how we're not doing anything illegal.
[22:32.540 --> 22:32.880]  You understand?
[22:33.000 --> 22:37.480]  When you get into our position, and when you're blamed for a lot of stuff, then you'll start taking it seriously.
[22:38.200 --> 22:38.760]  I take it...
[22:38.760 --> 22:41.040]  You're the type of person that's probably never been investigated or anything like that.
[22:41.160 --> 22:41.700]  Neither have I.
[22:41.700 --> 22:44.680]  I thank God every day that I haven't been investigated.
[22:45.000 --> 22:48.620]  But the moment people start talking about, hey, you better chill out.
[22:49.040 --> 22:50.300]  People have an eye on you.
[22:50.840 --> 22:52.380]  You start getting really paranoid.
[22:52.640 --> 22:55.100]  And it's a time in your life when it's not happy anymore.
[22:56.160 --> 23:01.440]  You go to cons and you're worried about, hey, am I going to be busted for something that I didn't even have anything to do with?
[23:02.060 --> 23:02.380]  Yeah.
[23:02.780 --> 23:04.000]  I worry about that.
[23:04.040 --> 23:07.820]  I worry about associating with people because I don't know what they do in their free time.
[23:08.120 --> 23:08.440]  Yeah.
[23:08.520 --> 23:09.620]  You start to worry about it a lot.
[23:11.980 --> 23:13.760]  And that's pretty much how it ends up.
[23:13.940 --> 23:18.300]  And I needed this forum or we needed this forum to pretty much expel all those rumors.
[23:19.080 --> 23:20.740]  Because as much as how...
[23:20.740 --> 23:23.200]  A lot of you seem to think that hacking is this evil thing.
[23:23.300 --> 23:23.940]  Yeah, it's cool.
[23:24.280 --> 23:26.120]  Yeah, I could care less if it's cool or not.
[23:26.320 --> 23:27.340]  I do this shit for a living.
[23:28.940 --> 23:34.200]  But these people are eventually going to go out into the job market and find that, hey, I can't be a fuck up anymore.
[23:34.220 --> 23:35.600]  I actually do have to do my job.
[23:35.840 --> 23:39.200]  And they're going to use that technical skill to do their job very well.
[23:40.060 --> 23:54.060]  And when they're at that point, which is where all of us are, you do not want to have anything to tell you, hey, just because you have this technical association to a group of people who are generally accepted as hackers who are just completely amazing at their technical skill,
[23:54.620 --> 24:04.160]  just for that association that you're going to be thought of as some evil hacker because people who go... a lot of people who go to these cons think of hackers that way, you don't want to do that.
[24:04.160 --> 24:09.020]  It's something that you really don't want to be blamed for.
[24:10.280 --> 24:12.760]  And that's essentially why we want this forum to talk about it.
[24:13.000 --> 24:15.480]  Yeah, some people are going to come to me later and say, hey, that's really lame.
[24:15.820 --> 24:18.800]  You guys went up there and said, whatever, whatever.
[24:18.960 --> 24:20.080]  You want to match wits with me?
[24:20.120 --> 24:20.800]  Fine, go ahead.
[24:21.140 --> 24:22.140]  We'll match technical skills.
[24:22.320 --> 24:23.560]  That's perfectly fine with me.
[24:23.560 --> 24:26.140]  But the point is, I've got a life to lead.
[24:26.500 --> 24:27.720]  I've got my technical skills.
[24:27.860 --> 24:28.760]  I'm happy with them.
[24:28.980 --> 24:33.980]  And I have a whole bunch of friends that we share technical and just, you know, personal relationship with.
[24:34.140 --> 24:36.340]  And we shouldn't have to be the fault or anything like that.
[24:36.720 --> 24:40.440]  Granted, I mean, if people have technical problems, we'll help them out when we have some time.
[24:40.840 --> 24:43.060]  But that's pretty much it.
[24:50.920 --> 24:51.940]  I am elite.
[24:52.180 --> 24:52.980]  Give me wares.
[24:54.960 --> 24:55.480]  Pardon?
[24:55.700 --> 24:56.060]  Wares.
[24:56.200 --> 24:57.340]  He wanted wares from us.
[24:57.880 --> 24:58.400]  Wares...
[25:02.080 --> 25:03.500]  Yeah, they're in the wares house.
[25:05.580 --> 25:06.980]  The check is in the mail.
[25:08.300 --> 25:10.480]  That is pretty much our summation.
[25:10.820 --> 25:18.340]  And I think we'd like to say in summary that we only look stupid because we choose to act stupid.
[25:19.440 --> 25:20.120]  P.S.
[25:20.180 --> 25:20.320]  Yeah.
[25:27.840 --> 25:29.960]  I'm a newbie and I don't know from nothing.
[25:30.220 --> 25:30.660]  That's fine.
[25:31.240 --> 25:32.840]  Knowing nothing is a great place to start.
[25:33.220 --> 25:33.440]  Okay.
[25:34.060 --> 25:34.500]  I've heard about...
[25:34.500 --> 25:36.540]  Knowing nothing gives you plausible deniability.
[25:39.480 --> 25:40.360]  I've heard...
[25:40.360 --> 25:42.720]  First of all, I'm rugosa at interport.net.
[25:42.940 --> 25:47.280]  So maybe if you can't say it here or we can continue the conversation on email.
[25:47.280 --> 25:52.140]  But I've heard of Linux and I've heard of FreeBSDM or something like this.
[25:52.400 --> 25:54.280]  Anyway, and other Redhead and Slackware.
[25:54.880 --> 25:56.420]  And I've seen some of it working.
[25:56.560 --> 25:58.600]  I'm running Windows 95 on my...
[25:58.600 --> 26:01.420]  Everyone's heard about my sound card that is...
[26:01.420 --> 26:02.840]  And then the...
[26:02.840 --> 26:06.460]  That isn't playing music and I want to do FreeTel and stuff.
[26:07.360 --> 26:07.880]  Um...
[26:07.880 --> 26:08.900]  Would any...
[26:08.900 --> 26:11.620]  Linux and what flavor should I try and learn or run?
[26:11.960 --> 26:12.360]  I'm...
[26:12.360 --> 26:13.200]  I've noticed...
[26:13.200 --> 26:15.300]  Actually, I think a UNIX...
[26:15.300 --> 26:15.780]  The...
[26:15.780 --> 26:16.480]  The short...
[26:16.480 --> 26:17.060]  I'm sorry.
[26:17.100 --> 26:20.860]  If you want to run a free UNIX on your PC, um...
[26:20.860 --> 26:22.420]  All of us up here would recommend OpenBSD.
[26:23.300 --> 26:25.700]  Theo Durate, who also has very...
[26:25.700 --> 26:28.080]  Who's the author of OpenBSD and has close ties to us, by the way.
[26:28.520 --> 26:29.280]  So what is it?
[26:29.420 --> 26:29.700]  What...
[26:29.700 --> 26:30.400]  Can you speak louder?
[26:30.560 --> 26:30.960]  What is it?
[26:31.180 --> 26:31.920]  The, uh...
[26:31.920 --> 26:35.040]  The root opinion on Linux is that it's, uh...
[26:35.040 --> 26:37.680]  Software written by rank amateurs for rank amateurs.
[26:38.400 --> 26:38.440]  Okay.
[26:38.440 --> 26:41.600]  And it's tantamount to walking around with a sign on your back that says hack me.
[26:41.940 --> 26:44.540]  Linux really, I mean, just doesn't have any respect from us.
[26:44.680 --> 26:48.760]  If you want to learn a good UNIX, we recommend OpenBSD, um...
[26:48.760 --> 26:49.560]  Only because of Theo.
[26:49.860 --> 26:50.840]  And also because we've used it.
[26:50.960 --> 26:52.080]  It's a solid operating system.
[26:52.680 --> 26:53.000]  Um...
[26:53.000 --> 27:01.040]  However, for a beginner who really doesn't have a lot of experience, I would personally recommend FreeBSD only because there's so much support for it.
[27:01.560 --> 27:01.900]  Um...
[27:01.900 --> 27:04.380]  Also, it's extremely easy to install and get up and running.
[27:05.020 --> 27:05.380]  Um...
[27:05.380 --> 27:08.240]  Is it downloadable free on some web...
[27:08.240 --> 27:08.560]  From...
[27:08.560 --> 27:08.900]  I'm sorry?
[27:09.100 --> 27:11.260]  Is it downloadable free from some...
[27:11.260 --> 27:11.300]  Yeah.
[27:11.400 --> 27:11.940]  Uh...
[27:11.940 --> 27:15.580]  www .freebsd.org FreeBSD.org Um...
[27:15.580 --> 27:17.020]  A good reference for, uh...
[27:17.020 --> 27:17.760]  Technical information.
[27:18.020 --> 27:18.740]  Just like, uh...
[27:18.740 --> 27:19.600]  Getting some tips.
[27:20.120 --> 27:20.500]  Is, um...
[27:20.500 --> 27:21.840]  I don't know if you're familiar with IRC.
[27:22.400 --> 27:22.940]  Uh-huh.
[27:23.180 --> 27:23.360]  Okay.
[27:23.420 --> 27:26.220]  If you're going to IRC on EFNet, uh...
[27:26.220 --> 27:29.440]  Channel FreeBSD, it has a lot of, um...
[27:29.440 --> 27:32.420]  FreeBSD buffs and also some of the authors hanging on that channel.
[27:32.640 --> 27:34.640]  So you can get a good reference information from there.
[27:35.160 --> 27:35.460]  Okay.
[27:35.580 --> 27:36.300]  Thank you very much.
[27:36.440 --> 27:36.800]  No problem.
[27:38.820 --> 27:39.220]  Um...
[27:39.220 --> 27:39.940]  I have two questions.
[27:40.180 --> 27:40.340]  Sure.
[27:40.340 --> 27:41.780]  Number one, uh...
[27:41.780 --> 27:43.640]  You there, the one next to the one sleeping.
[27:46.600 --> 27:47.000]  Um...
[27:47.000 --> 27:47.780]  Um...
[27:47.780 --> 27:48.140]  No.
[27:48.360 --> 27:51.720]  In fact, my name badge says, I am not Doug Humphrey.
[27:53.240 --> 27:53.680]  Yeah.
[27:53.760 --> 27:54.680]  Doug Humphrey is...
[27:54.680 --> 27:55.540]  And we're supposed to believe that.
[27:55.720 --> 27:55.860]  Okay.
[27:56.540 --> 27:56.960]  And, uh...
[27:56.960 --> 27:58.880]  The other thing is that, um...
[27:58.880 --> 27:59.740]  If you could, uh...
[27:59.740 --> 28:00.300]  If you could please...
[28:00.300 --> 28:05.040]  Some of us even have to defer to people more elite than us on occasion.
[28:05.280 --> 28:07.960]  And in my particular case, I must defer to Doug.
[28:08.140 --> 28:08.360]  Who is hiding.
[28:08.360 --> 28:09.400]  Stop lying behind the column.
[28:10.380 --> 28:10.780]  Um...
[28:10.780 --> 28:11.500]  Next question.
[28:12.020 --> 28:12.240]  Uh...
[28:12.240 --> 28:12.840]  My...
[28:12.840 --> 28:13.320]  Um...
[28:13.320 --> 28:15.660]  This isn't a question so much as a request.
[28:16.140 --> 28:16.420]  Um...
[28:16.420 --> 28:17.860]  Could you wake entropy up?
[28:18.000 --> 28:18.800]  I actually, uh...
[28:18.800 --> 28:19.120]  I need...
[28:19.120 --> 28:19.860]  I need to...
[28:19.860 --> 28:20.620]  Him to, uh...
[28:20.620 --> 28:22.600]  Go away with me now and hand me large amounts of money.
[28:24.300 --> 28:24.980]  See you later.
[28:25.380 --> 28:25.540]  Oh.
[28:26.280 --> 28:26.680]  Um...
[28:26.680 --> 28:27.780]  I just wanted to thank...
[28:28.860 --> 28:29.220]  We're...
[28:29.220 --> 28:30.020]  He's the lucky one.
[28:30.800 --> 28:31.480]  I mean, we want...
[28:31.480 --> 28:32.860]  I just want to thank, uh...
[28:32.860 --> 28:34.120]  Emmanuel for, uh...
[28:34.120 --> 28:35.960]  Giving us this opportunity to pretty much clear it up.
[28:37.200 --> 28:37.560]  Um...
[28:37.560 --> 28:38.380]  I have died...
[28:38.380 --> 28:39.180]  I mean, all of us died...
[28:39.180 --> 28:39.200]  We...
[28:39.200 --> 28:40.460]  We actually thought that the, uh...
[28:40.460 --> 28:42.800]  The late on the last night of the, uh...
[28:43.200 --> 28:47.360]  Of the show after most people have gone home was actually sort of a fitting place for...
[28:47.360 --> 28:48.980]  For r00t to give its presentation.
[28:49.500 --> 28:50.500]  It's its last word.
[28:50.620 --> 28:53.240]  And the only people here are the people who are too lazy to go home.
[28:53.920 --> 28:54.280]  Um...
[28:54.280 --> 28:56.180]  Still wanted to be here and actually wanted to hear us talk.
[28:56.180 --> 28:56.800]  And...
[28:57.360 --> 28:58.080]  Dispel us...
[28:58.080 --> 28:58.980]  Dispel all the myths.
[28:59.260 --> 28:59.560]  And...
[28:59.560 --> 29:02.920]  The third classification of people that we really wanted to be here were the feds.
[29:03.060 --> 29:05.160]  They're the only ones that would have stayed around until the end.
[29:05.820 --> 29:05.940]  And...
[29:05.940 --> 29:08.320]  Those are the people that we really wanted to hear us talk.
[29:09.260 --> 29:09.620]  Um...
[29:09.620 --> 29:10.100]  I...
[29:11.020 --> 29:11.980]  So, uh...
[29:11.980 --> 29:13.720]  I just wanted to thank Emmanuel for giving us the opportunity.
[29:14.000 --> 29:14.580]  And, uh...
[29:14.580 --> 29:16.160]  I hope you guys had a great time at home.
[29:16.720 --> 29:17.020]  Thanks.
[29:17.020 --> 29:17.760]  Can I go home to the feds?
[29:17.900 --> 29:18.040]  Yeah.
[29:23.890 --> 29:24.610]  Patty rules.
[29:24.950 --> 29:25.190]  She got...
[29:25.190 --> 29:26.830]  She got all this equipment so cheap.
[29:26.830 --> 29:30.850]  Now Patty's gonna put up some really kick-ass slides of what happened.
[29:32.010 --> 29:32.830]  Thanks, Patty.
[29:33.570 --> 29:35.330]  Somehow she found time to put this together.
[29:35.830 --> 29:35.970]  Okay.
[29:36.190 --> 29:39.370]  We'll keep introducing all of us and you can give us all the shout-outs you want.
[29:39.630 --> 29:40.910]  I need to do one more thing.
[29:41.110 --> 29:41.710]  Hey, it's backwards.
[29:42.190 --> 29:43.730]  Is Meme around?
[29:44.850 --> 29:47.070]  Meme's the girl that's been working registration.
[29:48.230 --> 29:48.710]  Meme!
[29:49.530 --> 29:49.870]  Meme!
[29:49.870 --> 29:50.830]  Shout-out for Meme!
[29:51.170 --> 29:52.050]  Get her up here.
[30:01.360 --> 30:01.840]  Okay.
[30:02.020 --> 30:05.820]  While she's coming up, you're all gonna want to know a lot about what happened here.
[30:06.000 --> 30:07.160]  And we're gonna tell you about it.
[30:07.280 --> 30:10.860]  And we'll answer a lot of questions about it in a few weeks and later.
[30:12.180 --> 30:12.660]  Um...
[30:12.660 --> 30:13.100]  Where's Meme?
[30:13.700 --> 30:14.580]  She's up here.
[30:15.440 --> 30:16.740]  She's ducking down.
[30:17.380 --> 30:17.800]  She's hiding.
[30:18.640 --> 30:19.560]  This is Meme.
[30:27.560 --> 30:28.420]  Oh, cool.
[30:29.060 --> 30:32.720]  I've never seen this guy before, but I think I live with him.
[30:34.660 --> 30:36.160]  It's Red Balaclava.
[30:36.880 --> 30:38.560]  He's behind a blue screen.
[30:45.820 --> 30:46.340]  Alright.
[30:47.720 --> 30:48.240]  Um...
[30:48.240 --> 30:48.620]  Wait a minute.
[30:48.760 --> 30:49.420]  You sat down.
[30:49.920 --> 30:50.680]  Get up.
[30:51.700 --> 30:54.180]  I just want everybody to see you, and then you can sit back down.
[30:54.880 --> 30:55.160]  Okay.
[30:55.800 --> 30:57.120]  Meme just ran registration.
[30:57.380 --> 31:00.500]  That's what I might have was supposed to do when I did in 1994.
[31:00.980 --> 31:01.940]  She rules too.
[31:02.280 --> 31:06.660]  Everybody up here is the most fantastic bunch of people on the planet right now.
[31:07.860 --> 31:08.980]  What is going on?
[31:10.420 --> 31:11.740]  Almost having convulsions.
[31:13.880 --> 31:15.480]  Are you sure it's not TPM?
[31:17.960 --> 31:19.660]  Does anybody think that's funny?
[31:24.240 --> 31:24.800]  Okay.
[31:26.120 --> 31:26.940]  Oh, yeah.
[31:27.140 --> 31:27.580]  We have to thank Garth.
[31:27.680 --> 31:28.560]  We have to thank Garth.
[31:29.000 --> 31:29.380]  Okay.
[31:29.880 --> 31:36.200]  For everybody who worked here as a volunteer, you got a red shirt, you got an owned by Pam shirt.
[31:44.480 --> 31:46.640]  I have one last thing to clear up.
[31:47.040 --> 31:51.700]  In case you didn't know this, everybody sitting at this table is included in that group.
[31:53.080 --> 31:55.180]  Is that clear with everybody in this room?
[31:56.320 --> 32:00.000]  We have no corporate sponsorship or anything.
[32:00.440 --> 32:00.700]  Nothing.
[32:04.100 --> 32:07.480]  We don't ever want to hear that question, and we'll make it really clear a lot.
[32:09.360 --> 32:09.920]  Okay.
[32:10.360 --> 32:10.660]  Cool.
[32:13.020 --> 32:16.680]  Yeah, thanks to Kmart for their cooperation earlier today.
[32:17.160 --> 32:18.340]  Here's what I want.
[32:18.480 --> 32:22.020]  I want a shout out from this side of the table of everybody's name.
[32:22.380 --> 32:26.100]  Shout out your name and tell me what you did, because I can't see you guys.
[32:28.500 --> 32:31.180]  Ryan, I did everything.
[32:31.540 --> 32:35.860]  Merchandising, registration, and kept Pam cool.
[32:37.160 --> 32:37.980]  Thank you.
[32:39.480 --> 32:41.700]  He also kept giving me back rubs, too.
[32:43.120 --> 32:44.020]  I'm Porkchop.
[32:44.140 --> 32:44.960]  I did real audio.
[32:45.260 --> 32:49.720]  I did stuff in the knock, and I think that's it.
[32:50.100 --> 32:50.580]  Sounds.
[32:51.020 --> 32:51.220]  Lights.
[32:51.400 --> 32:51.740]  Lights.
[32:52.160 --> 32:53.500]  Yes, those lights are mine.
[32:58.810 --> 32:59.510]  I'm Dave.
[32:59.690 --> 33:00.550]  I did some network stuff.
[33:00.690 --> 33:02.190]  I did some stuff with the picture tell.
[33:06.970 --> 33:07.710]  Oh, wait.
[33:08.030 --> 33:09.270]  The Garth Brooks picture?
[33:11.410 --> 33:12.810]  Can I use his name?
[33:13.030 --> 33:13.970]  Yeah, that was...
[33:13.970 --> 33:17.970]  That was designed by Corey, while he was hanging out with us.
[33:18.190 --> 33:19.890]  On his way to England right now in an airplane.
[33:20.270 --> 33:20.730]  That's good.
[33:20.890 --> 33:21.830]  He's a great kid.
[33:23.230 --> 33:26.450]  Go for it.
[33:26.450 --> 33:27.670]  I'm Seraph.
[33:27.870 --> 33:32.210]  I did the website and all the other design stuff that you see around.
[33:32.390 --> 33:37.830]  All the banners and stickers and posters and t-shirts and hats and all that fun stuff.
[33:41.640 --> 33:42.700]  Hey, wait a minute.
[33:49.290 --> 33:52.490]  Seraph had his posters all over the fucking city.
[33:54.090 --> 33:54.950]  Isn't that cool?
[33:58.750 --> 33:59.890]  Did you see them?
[34:03.370 --> 34:04.610]  Oh, no, not...
[34:05.870 --> 34:07.650]  Those are the stickers, not the posters.
[34:07.850 --> 34:08.590]  Okay, that's all right.
[34:08.930 --> 34:09.510]  The posters...
[34:11.370 --> 34:11.790]  Well...
[34:11.790 --> 34:13.130]  And we don't know who stuck that there.
[34:13.870 --> 34:15.130]  It really doesn't matter.
[34:15.450 --> 34:16.410]  If you saw them, you saw them.
[34:16.510 --> 34:17.710]  But that's like the coolest thing.
[34:17.710 --> 34:18.910]  They do look better, don't they?
[34:20.030 --> 34:20.150]  Yeah!
[34:22.210 --> 34:23.670]  We're so much brighter than them.
[34:24.170 --> 34:24.530]  Hey, wait a minute.
[34:24.530 --> 34:25.350]  Shout out to Patty.
[34:25.550 --> 34:27.310]  She's the only person who thought to do this.
[34:28.070 --> 34:28.990]  Make the slides.
[34:29.250 --> 34:29.750]  Do you like them?
[34:31.730 --> 34:32.090]  Okay.
[34:33.190 --> 34:33.550]  Go.
[34:34.990 --> 34:35.350]  Oh.
[34:35.530 --> 34:36.030]  Bernie, yes.
[34:36.610 --> 34:37.330]  I, uh...
[34:37.330 --> 34:38.190]  What did I do, anyway?
[34:38.350 --> 34:40.870]  I got all the free stuff for all you folks for door prizes.
[34:40.890 --> 34:41.930]  Not all of it, but a lot of it.
[34:42.130 --> 34:43.090]  Which we're gonna give away soon.
[34:43.110 --> 34:46.190]  Found this crazy video projector that we got all this on the big screen.
[34:46.190 --> 34:47.450]  And Patty, uh...
[34:47.450 --> 34:48.050]  Went and rent...
[34:48.050 --> 34:48.310]  Aww.
[34:56.320 --> 34:59.980]  And acquired various network and power conditioning equipment for, uh...
[34:59.980 --> 35:00.760]  Smooth running network.
[35:00.980 --> 35:03.100]  Which I have to really credit people for using properly.
[35:03.260 --> 35:03.620]  So thank you.
[35:04.200 --> 35:04.560]  Okay.
[35:09.280 --> 35:10.180]  Yes, he did.
[35:10.180 --> 35:10.960]  All right.
[35:12.140 --> 35:12.420]  Uh...
[35:12.700 --> 35:16.860]  My name is Jeopardy Jim, and I can't tell you some of the things I did.
[35:19.180 --> 35:25.940]  Other than that, I generally made a nuisance of myself everywhere and ran around like a chicken without a head on.
[35:27.920 --> 35:31.760]  I tried to keep Pam sane and I almost succeeded.
[35:32.220 --> 35:32.480]  Okay.
[35:34.200 --> 35:35.160]  And, uh...
[35:35.160 --> 35:36.060]  That's about it.
[35:36.540 --> 35:37.420]  I don't know how much I care.
[35:42.690 --> 35:43.170]  Okay.
[35:43.410 --> 35:45.310]  We need to know if Ben is in the room.
[35:46.190 --> 35:46.830]  There he is.
[35:46.950 --> 35:47.530]  He's all the way in the back.
[35:47.670 --> 35:48.130]  He's hiding.
[35:52.620 --> 35:53.880]  Ben did a lot of stuff.
[35:54.280 --> 35:54.720]  Right?
[35:55.560 --> 35:59.540]  Actually, if you bought something from 2600, you probably bought it from Ben.
[36:00.360 --> 36:02.100]  And he probably made you buy something else.
[36:08.230 --> 36:09.110]  Thank you, Ben.
[36:13.270 --> 36:13.670]  Good.
[36:14.010 --> 36:14.530]  Thank you.
[36:14.710 --> 36:15.070]  Thank you.
[36:15.150 --> 36:15.650]  Hey, Ben.
[36:17.030 --> 36:17.430]  Thanks.
[36:17.890 --> 36:21.010]  Ben is the reason that we all are allowed to be up here right now.
[36:27.020 --> 36:27.940]  Can you get closer?
[36:28.300 --> 36:29.020]  Can you stand up?
[36:31.680 --> 36:32.480]  Stand up.
[36:32.480 --> 36:33.820]  And I'll say what you did.
[36:34.520 --> 36:35.120]  Kiritoy.
[36:36.360 --> 36:37.500]  This is Kiritoy.
[36:37.900 --> 36:41.000]  For the last, like, two or three, or perhaps the whole day, hours.
[36:41.440 --> 36:42.880]  He's kept me sane.
[36:43.560 --> 36:45.300]  My sister did it yesterday.
[36:45.520 --> 36:46.600]  She's not here today.
[36:48.240 --> 36:48.540]  Oh.
[36:49.400 --> 36:58.280]  Kiritoy made those really great posters of, like, the van crashing into the phone booths with Walter the dog on them.
[36:58.900 --> 36:59.260]  Yeah.
[37:01.440 --> 37:02.640]  You people want them.
[37:02.800 --> 37:04.520]  They're not going to be for sale when you leave, though.
[37:04.740 --> 37:05.680]  All that's shut down.
[37:07.280 --> 37:08.600]  You can order it through the magazine.
[37:08.600 --> 37:11.820]  He also does the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the...
[37:11.820 --> 37:12.460]  2600.
[37:13.100 --> 37:14.020]  2600 website.
[37:14.440 --> 37:15.420]  Off the Hook website.
[37:17.540 --> 37:18.020]  Um...
[37:18.020 --> 37:20.680]  The HOPE website is done by Serif.
[37:21.100 --> 37:24.560]  I actually did a shitload of stuff for the Off the Hook, uh, CD.
[37:26.180 --> 37:27.260]  And, uh, website.
[37:28.220 --> 37:28.980]  And the covers.
[37:29.060 --> 37:29.700]  And the covers.
[37:30.740 --> 37:31.180]  Wow.
[37:33.300 --> 37:33.740]  Wow.
[37:38.280 --> 37:39.880]  You guys know who he is?
[37:40.100 --> 37:40.320]  Right.
[37:40.400 --> 37:40.940]  You skipped you.
[37:41.320 --> 37:42.240]  Well, I already said...
[37:42.240 --> 37:42.520]  Oh, wait.
[37:42.640 --> 37:43.680]  I can't say what I did.
[37:43.900 --> 37:45.560]  You kept me sane for six months.
[37:54.530 --> 37:58.330]  And this conference would not have happened and certainly would not have been a success without Pam.
[38:00.190 --> 38:00.590]  And...
[38:03.670 --> 38:04.070]  Thanks.
[38:04.290 --> 38:04.810]  Yes, ma'am.
[38:04.930 --> 38:05.170]  Okay.
[38:06.090 --> 38:09.050]  Um, the guy next to him is David.
[38:09.270 --> 38:10.590]  Can you even say your name anymore?
[38:12.090 --> 38:12.770]  David, David.
[38:13.570 --> 38:15.810]  This is David at David.com.
[38:16.030 --> 38:18.130]  Whenever there was a problem, we put it on his shoulders.
[38:18.410 --> 38:19.670]  And he handled it.
[38:19.990 --> 38:24.530]  Um, when the shit hit, when the shit hit the fan, um, my job was to be there.
[38:25.230 --> 38:33.550]  And I schmoozed a hell of a lot of unnamed companies, uh, to get us a lot of the services and technology that we needed.
[38:34.090 --> 38:36.810]  Um, the interesting thing is that they don't want to be mentioned.
[38:38.070 --> 38:38.550]  Cool.
[38:38.710 --> 38:40.370]  Wait, I do think we should mention that one.
[38:42.030 --> 38:42.510]  Um...
[38:42.510 --> 38:42.790]  Yeah?
[38:43.510 --> 38:44.530]  Well, what, the...
[38:45.790 --> 38:46.630]  ISDN provider?
[38:46.810 --> 38:54.450]  Oh, well, your local, um, providers of ISDN service, um, made the, um, this all possible.
[38:54.450 --> 38:55.690]  But I can't mention their name.
[38:55.910 --> 39:02.590]  But you've seen their, um, telephone boots, um, decorated with our original, um, logos and bumper stickers.
[39:07.610 --> 39:08.670]  Okay, wait a minute.
[39:08.870 --> 39:11.030]  I need to give some shout-outs to people who aren't here.
[39:11.630 --> 39:16.070]  But one thing I have to say is, like, like, um, shit, I forgot.
[39:17.830 --> 39:19.330]  Okay, I'll give my shout-outs.
[39:19.450 --> 39:20.430]  Probably I'll remember it.
[39:20.690 --> 39:23.270]  Oh, David is the best schmoozer on the planet.
[39:24.330 --> 39:24.810]  Yes.
[39:24.810 --> 39:25.430]  Okay.
[39:25.830 --> 39:29.510]  We need to thank Doug and Ray.
[39:30.030 --> 39:31.810]  There are radio guys.
[39:32.190 --> 39:35.790]  The radios you see here are the radios you don't see.
[39:40.240 --> 39:41.220]  Shut up.
[39:43.140 --> 39:44.300]  They did it.
[39:45.040 --> 39:46.100]  Those radios.
[39:46.220 --> 39:46.600]  Those ones.
[39:46.860 --> 39:47.500]  Those ones.
[39:48.200 --> 39:48.720]  Okay.
[39:49.600 --> 39:50.880]  David, are you done?
[39:50.880 --> 39:52.360]  I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm done.
[39:52.580 --> 39:53.180]  I'm, I'm, I'm fried.
[39:53.640 --> 39:53.920]  Okay.
[39:54.400 --> 39:57.700]  The guy sitting behind David should stand up and introduce himself.
[39:59.900 --> 40:02.160]  I'm Netweasel, and I don't sleep.
[40:07.280 --> 40:09.000]  Well, okay, he's Netweasel.
[40:09.020 --> 40:10.180]  He has a really cool website.
[40:10.600 --> 40:12.680]  And, uh, I keep calling him.
[40:12.780 --> 40:13.740]  Do you mind if I use your name?
[40:14.840 --> 40:14.940]  Huh?
[40:15.300 --> 40:16.740]  Do you mind if I use your name?
[40:17.060 --> 40:17.700]  I use Netweasel.
[40:17.880 --> 40:18.040]  No, no, no, no.
[40:18.100 --> 40:19.700]  We've been calling him all over the place.
[40:19.860 --> 40:20.440]  Jersey Ryan.
[40:20.700 --> 40:22.540]  If you've heard that name, that's who that is.
[40:23.880 --> 40:25.120]  He just kicks ass.
[40:25.120 --> 40:29.620]  He's done more fun shit for us, like, while we've been running around and connecting us up.
[40:29.800 --> 40:34.460]  His boss got us, like, he sent his staff to pick people up at airports for us and stuff.
[40:41.440 --> 40:51.560]  And I, I'd like to thank, um, the cop in front of Grand Central Station for not noticing the sticker that I, I mean, that someone put up on the phone booth two feet in front of him.
[40:54.890 --> 40:56.270]  You probably need to know this.
[40:56.350 --> 41:07.610]  He actually had, like, for at least four or five days, one of those great Beyond HOPE stickers on the yellow divider when you enter the Lincoln Tunnel from when he was stuck in traffic there for hanging out with us too long.
[41:08.210 --> 41:10.030]  Everybody who left New York saw that.
[41:10.170 --> 41:10.830]  Does that rule?
[41:11.230 --> 41:11.670]  Yeah.
[41:11.850 --> 41:12.390]  I did too.
[41:14.730 --> 41:21.310]  We also have to thank the nice people at Joe Boxer for announcing our event to everyone in the Times Square area.
[41:22.410 --> 41:23.930]  And over again.
[41:25.010 --> 41:28.050]  I have, like, two more things to say, then we'll continue the shout outs.
[41:28.050 --> 41:32.810]  We need to, uh, say that we don't want to thank the people at the Cyber Cafe.
[41:33.090 --> 41:36.710]  We tried to make an organized event happen with them for over eight months.
[41:36.930 --> 41:38.990]  We're sorry if anything bad happened, though.
[41:39.250 --> 41:40.310]  We'll work it out.
[41:40.670 --> 41:40.990]  Okay.
[41:41.530 --> 41:42.690]  Everybody do this.
[41:42.890 --> 41:43.590]  This is fun.
[41:43.710 --> 41:44.870]  This is stupid geek tricks.
[41:45.130 --> 41:49.150]  I want to see how fast everybody can turn around and look at the guy in the green shirt at the sound panel.
[41:50.950 --> 41:51.370]  Manos!
[41:56.100 --> 41:56.520]  Manos!
[41:56.520 --> 41:57.360]  That's Manos!
[41:58.240 --> 41:58.660]  Manos!
[41:58.920 --> 42:02.720]  Somebody give him a mic, but, like, Manos has been just a solid rock.
[42:03.620 --> 42:05.180]  Manos, go to the mic Chris has.
[42:05.860 --> 42:08.180]  Uh, no, actually, you guys did all the work.
[42:08.280 --> 42:10.560]  You've been working for months on this.
[42:10.560 --> 42:12.240]  What do you do for us, Manos?
[42:13.920 --> 42:15.340]  I'm costing the websites.
[42:15.860 --> 42:20.680]  Yeah, well, we're going to say what else you do for us in a minute at our space.
[42:22.540 --> 42:24.740]  And, I don't know, I help as much as I can.
[42:25.240 --> 42:25.780]  Thank you.
[42:27.000 --> 42:27.620]  Thank you.
[42:27.900 --> 42:28.040]  Thank you.
[42:28.040 --> 42:29.560]  But the credit goes all there.
[42:34.720 --> 42:35.100]  Okay.
[42:35.560 --> 42:36.440]  Well, you met Meme already.
[42:36.580 --> 42:38.740]  Oh, she also designed the great animated GIF.
[42:39.400 --> 42:39.620]  Yeah.
[42:39.860 --> 42:40.540]  Do you see it?
[42:44.270 --> 42:46.430]  It's of that logo that's on the pay phone.
[42:46.630 --> 42:47.230]  It's really cool.
[42:47.390 --> 42:48.650]  Come to the website and get it.
[42:49.030 --> 42:50.210]  Do you mind if we snag it, Meme?
[42:51.870 --> 42:52.510]  Take it.
[42:52.630 --> 42:53.050]  Get it.
[42:53.210 --> 42:53.530]  Do it.
[42:53.590 --> 42:53.950]  Use it.
[42:54.070 --> 42:54.550]  You went there.
[42:54.630 --> 42:55.090]  You did it.
[42:55.250 --> 42:55.670]  Use it.
[42:57.090 --> 42:57.490]  Who's...
[42:57.490 --> 42:58.590]  I can't see over there.
[42:58.690 --> 42:59.170]  Who's next?
[42:59.570 --> 42:59.790]  Marco.
[43:00.130 --> 43:00.530]  Marco.
[43:00.530 --> 43:00.690]  Marco.
[43:00.950 --> 43:02.710]  Do you guys know who Marco is?
[43:02.990 --> 43:03.410]  Marco.
[43:09.890 --> 43:10.490]  Marco.
[43:12.430 --> 43:13.950]  Marco has no mic.
[43:15.910 --> 43:16.770]  It's okay.
[43:17.490 --> 43:18.390]  There we go.
[43:19.210 --> 43:20.950]  I'd just like to thank everybody who helped out.
[43:21.390 --> 43:23.510]  This is an entirely volunteer network.
[43:24.510 --> 43:25.950]  Marco's the network guy.
[43:26.950 --> 43:28.370]  Marco did our network.
[43:28.650 --> 43:31.950]  He's thanking his own volunteers, but Marco did our network.
[43:32.250 --> 43:32.670]  Oh.
[43:32.990 --> 43:33.510]  You got it.
[43:33.510 --> 43:34.730]  Not all by myself.
[43:39.130 --> 43:42.050]  Hey, Marco, why don't you say what kind of a connection we had?
[43:42.610 --> 43:42.970]  Speed.
[43:43.990 --> 43:46.010]  Yeah, we had a 10-megabit multi-homed.
[43:46.370 --> 43:46.830]  Not bad.
[43:47.130 --> 43:48.450]  Does that mean anything to you people?
[43:48.970 --> 43:49.270]  No.
[43:49.890 --> 43:50.290]  Okay.
[43:51.270 --> 43:53.170]  We're drinking from the fire hose.
[43:55.290 --> 43:56.430]  It's really cool.
[43:56.870 --> 44:00.350]  We're not going to tell you who provided that, but you'll find out soon.
[44:01.770 --> 44:02.870]  Ring the bell.
[44:03.970 --> 44:05.450]  Marco, what else do you want to say?
[44:07.590 --> 44:08.830]  Speak into the mic.
[44:10.030 --> 44:10.370]  Okay.
[44:12.190 --> 44:12.750]  Wait.
[44:13.070 --> 44:15.230]  The guy next to him is Ryan.
[44:16.690 --> 44:17.250]  Hi.
[44:17.550 --> 44:18.030]  New York Ryan.
[44:18.190 --> 44:18.630]  New York Ryan.
[44:18.950 --> 44:20.710]  This is not New Jersey Ryan.
[44:21.410 --> 44:23.230]  I'm Ryan at Ryan.net.
[44:24.010 --> 44:25.730]  I had to be like David.
[44:27.010 --> 44:27.750]  Everybody does.
[44:27.810 --> 44:30.870]  I wanted to get Marco.com, but some tablecloth company took it.
[44:32.750 --> 44:33.870]  That sucks.
[44:34.570 --> 44:35.610]  Ryan, what did you do?
[44:35.950 --> 44:36.990]  I did a lot of stuff.
[44:37.170 --> 44:39.090]  I herded a lot of cats earlier.
[44:39.890 --> 44:42.770]  I did the WBAI stuff.
[44:43.650 --> 44:45.910]  I helped Marco with as much networking as I can.
[44:46.130 --> 44:48.630]  Can you roll the slide back a couple to our British friends?
[44:54.630 --> 44:55.130]  Okay.
[44:55.470 --> 44:57.110]  You guys have to understand.
[44:57.510 --> 44:58.910]  I hosted...
[44:59.710 --> 45:03.390]  I loaned my desk to a lot of our new friends from Britain.
[45:05.210 --> 45:05.950]  That's me.
[45:06.270 --> 45:07.530]  That's Cyberjunkie.
[45:07.790 --> 45:09.290]  Are any of them still here?
[45:10.390 --> 45:11.570]  Some of them are gone.
[45:11.730 --> 45:11.910]  Wait.
[45:12.110 --> 45:13.010]  You're one of them.
[45:13.210 --> 45:13.890]  Yeah, you're one of them.
[45:14.110 --> 45:15.410]  Don't shake your head.
[45:17.930 --> 45:18.490]  Anyway...
[45:18.490 --> 45:19.990]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[45:21.090 --> 45:23.510]  The British guys need to stand up.
[45:24.850 --> 45:25.950]  Stay standing.
[45:30.410 --> 45:31.650]  Come on up here.
[45:32.610 --> 45:34.250]  I have a personal thank you.
[45:34.670 --> 45:35.830]  Is this boring anybody?
[45:36.730 --> 45:36.970]  No.
[45:37.410 --> 45:37.590]  Okay.
[45:37.910 --> 45:39.650]  We're going to give away shit after this maybe?
[45:39.970 --> 45:40.090]  Yeah.
[45:40.410 --> 45:44.390]  Anyway, Thursday night these guys got together and I don't know if...
[45:44.390 --> 45:48.130]  I guess most of the beer is actually cleared off the desk for this shot here.
[45:48.450 --> 45:56.330]  But we got a little bored so we did a little creative web design in the Netherlands.
[45:56.770 --> 45:58.690]  I don't know if you guys heard about that or not.
[46:00.190 --> 46:00.670]  Okay.
[46:00.930 --> 46:04.910]  That brings us to a question that a lot of you probably want to know.
[46:05.210 --> 46:06.810]  How the hell did this happen?
[46:07.130 --> 46:09.570]  This is like really an easy question.
[46:10.790 --> 46:14.150]  We were going to do it anyway, but...
[46:18.190 --> 46:18.870]  Oh, no.
[46:19.150 --> 46:19.710]  That's how it happened.
[46:19.990 --> 46:20.670]  People were sleeping.
[46:21.430 --> 46:21.910]  Okay.
[46:22.270 --> 46:24.970]  But what I was talking about was the organizational stuff.
[46:24.970 --> 46:27.150]  And I'd like to let you know where it happened.
[46:27.650 --> 46:30.030]  It happened at Notwork Development Labs.
[46:30.510 --> 46:33.010]  If you've heard that name, raise your hand.
[46:33.970 --> 46:34.450]  Notwork.
[46:34.470 --> 46:34.970]  Oh, my God.
[46:35.090 --> 46:35.490]  That's good.
[46:35.490 --> 46:35.730]  Wow.
[46:36.630 --> 46:37.970]  They were the AP Newswire.
[46:38.290 --> 46:38.790]  All right.
[46:41.010 --> 46:50.450]  If this conference probably had like a logo on the bottom, like HIPS did, that said Powered by Sun, I think this one should say Powered by Notwork.
[46:52.210 --> 46:57.510]  I think that's just about all I need to say about it, except I'd like the Notwork members in this room to stand up.
[47:08.980 --> 47:10.320]  Well, we don't really need to clap.
[47:10.320 --> 47:12.200]  We just wanted you to know who the hell we were.
[47:12.480 --> 47:12.940]  Let's sit down.
[47:12.960 --> 47:13.580]  Are we recruiting?
[47:17.280 --> 47:18.960]  Yeah, it's been a really big secret.
[47:20.000 --> 47:20.440]  Okay.
[47:20.720 --> 47:27.160]  Now, what I want to say about it is, first of all, the really great British guys have been hanging out with us there all the time.
[47:27.480 --> 47:28.900]  And it's been totally cool.
[47:29.060 --> 47:29.080]  Clean your desks.
[47:30.280 --> 47:31.460]  Clean the back room.
[47:32.520 --> 47:33.260]  Jesus Christ.
[47:33.600 --> 47:34.720]  Has anybody been there today?
[47:35.160 --> 47:35.300]  No.
[47:35.480 --> 47:35.620]  No.
[47:36.080 --> 47:36.360]  I have.
[47:36.500 --> 47:38.020]  I don't want to know what it looks like.
[47:38.280 --> 47:39.060]  The health department.
[47:39.220 --> 47:40.040]  And he made it back.
[47:40.240 --> 47:41.860]  Where did the couch cushions go?
[47:42.240 --> 47:42.460]  Okay.
[47:42.460 --> 47:42.580]  What?
[47:43.160 --> 47:44.740]  Where are the couch cushions?
[47:45.960 --> 47:47.420]  We'll deal with that later.
[47:47.680 --> 47:47.800]  Okay.
[47:47.800 --> 47:48.320]  Don't worry.
[47:48.400 --> 47:50.080]  The Twizzlers are still there.
[47:50.860 --> 47:51.800]  There's Twizzlers there.
[47:52.140 --> 47:52.680]  There's still Twizzlers there.
[47:52.680 --> 47:52.920]  There's still Twizzlers there.
[47:52.920 --> 47:53.800]  They're four years old.
[47:53.800 --> 47:54.080]  There's mine.
[47:54.560 --> 47:54.880]  All right.
[47:55.120 --> 47:56.220]  Yeah, they are four years old.
[47:56.340 --> 47:56.540]  Okay.
[47:57.080 --> 47:58.880]  That was our own little internal thing.
[47:59.560 --> 48:01.080]  I think they want us to give away shit.
[48:01.280 --> 48:02.500]  We're going to give away shit.
[48:04.360 --> 48:04.760]  Now.
[48:06.740 --> 48:08.380]  We're done shouting each other out?
[48:08.600 --> 48:09.360]  I'd like to say something.
[48:09.620 --> 48:09.760]  Ben.
[48:10.600 --> 48:11.000]  Sure.
[48:11.320 --> 48:11.520]  Go ahead.
[48:13.380 --> 48:14.040]  I don't know.
[48:14.220 --> 48:18.020]  I was outside for most of this, but without Pam here.
[48:18.740 --> 48:24.200]  Pam is like, was the eyes, ears, nose, throat, and brain of this entire convention.
[48:24.220 --> 48:26.000]  She did a little bit of everything.
[48:26.160 --> 48:33.660]  I don't want to demean anybody else, but without Pam, a lot of the stuff that you saw wouldn't have happened, and I just want to give everybody, just want everybody to get a round of applause for Pam.
[48:36.560 --> 48:37.320]  Thank you.
[48:43.750 --> 48:44.910]  Ben, please come here.
[48:46.770 --> 48:47.310]  Come here.
[48:48.770 --> 48:49.370]  Come here.
[48:50.550 --> 48:53.910]  And can we get a big round of applause for the big guy himself?
[48:54.590 --> 48:56.330]  Mr. Emmanuel Goldstein.
[48:56.710 --> 48:56.910]  Yeah.
[49:02.530 --> 49:04.670]  This is in lieu of a hug from Ben.
[49:05.390 --> 49:06.590]  You can hold my hand.
[49:06.730 --> 49:07.110]  Thank you.
[49:07.310 --> 49:09.290]  Ben gives like the best hugs on the planet.
[49:11.250 --> 49:12.270]  He's the hugger.
[49:12.770 --> 49:14.310]  He did it at the first HOPE.
[49:14.550 --> 49:16.210]  He's still doing it, only he grew up a little.
[49:16.450 --> 49:17.010]  It's cool.
[49:18.250 --> 49:18.970]  Okay.
[49:18.970 --> 49:20.910]  He's hugged over 10,000 people so far.
[49:21.170 --> 49:22.970]  Hey, I need to say something.
[49:23.510 --> 49:23.730]  Eric?
[49:24.730 --> 49:25.450]  Eric?
[49:26.910 --> 49:27.270]  Eric?
[49:30.050 --> 49:30.470]  Oh.
[49:30.690 --> 49:31.210]  It's Eric.
[49:31.870 --> 49:32.130]  Okay.
[49:33.870 --> 49:34.590]  Emmanuel?
[49:35.610 --> 49:37.550]  Thanks for letting me do this.
[49:38.190 --> 49:39.250]  My pleasure.
[49:42.850 --> 49:43.490]  All right.
[49:44.110 --> 49:45.210]  That was kind of fun.
[49:46.510 --> 49:47.730]  Let's do it again sometime.
[49:48.190 --> 49:50.350]  We will do this again sometime, I'm sure.
[49:51.550 --> 49:51.990]  Okay.
[49:52.330 --> 49:53.270]  Let's give away shit.
[49:54.130 --> 49:54.530]  We have shit.
[49:54.530 --> 49:56.070]  We're giving away Zap from England first.
[49:56.450 --> 49:57.690]  No, Zap's cool.
[49:58.130 --> 49:58.750]  Wait a minute.
[49:58.830 --> 50:08.030]  The only last thing you need to know about that is the British guys were all there when we had to unload the major hacking cookies and a hell of a lot of other people in this room were too.
[50:09.670 --> 50:20.790]  Our elevator broke at not work at 4.30 in the morning and there was like six of 20 people awake and we made a fire brigade up the stairs six flights.
[50:22.290 --> 50:23.630]  That's all you need to know.
[50:24.350 --> 50:24.470]  Okay.
[50:25.090 --> 50:25.670]  There's Tom.
[50:25.930 --> 50:26.490]  That's Tom.
[50:26.610 --> 50:27.910]  He's on his way back to England too.
[50:28.430 --> 50:28.890]  Oh, yeah.
[50:29.190 --> 50:30.210]  He left this afternoon.
[50:30.470 --> 50:31.430]  He's one of the British guys.
[50:31.430 --> 50:32.190]  Okay.
[50:32.470 --> 50:32.970]  Wait, Pam?
[50:33.130 --> 50:34.710]  We need to know what time it is, David?
[50:35.150 --> 50:35.710]  Hold on a second.
[50:36.390 --> 50:49.470]  Tom said that he was going to outlast us all, that he was going to stay up the Thursday before through the entire weekend and not get one wink of sleep.
[50:49.790 --> 50:51.230]  Wasn't that picture taken Friday?
[50:52.010 --> 50:55.390]  That picture was taken here in the staff room on Friday.
[50:57.310 --> 50:59.750]  He's already been doing it though for like a week.
[50:59.970 --> 51:00.230]  Yeah.
[51:00.230 --> 51:00.870]  It's all right.
[51:01.070 --> 51:01.230]  It's all right.
[51:01.230 --> 51:04.630]  If anybody here at this table has had less sleep than Tom, raise your hand.
[51:09.490 --> 51:11.010]  What time is it now?
[51:14.270 --> 51:16.810]  I need to know what time it is here.
[51:17.250 --> 51:18.710]  It's three minutes to midnight.
[51:19.010 --> 51:19.210]  Okay.
[51:20.750 --> 51:23.330]  We really need to shut this down.
[51:23.790 --> 51:24.470]  All right.
[51:24.650 --> 51:25.150]  Give away shit.
[51:25.930 --> 51:27.410]  We're going to give away shit.
[51:27.690 --> 51:30.470]  Let's give away free shit and then we all have to go.
[51:30.470 --> 51:31.230]  Yeah.
[51:32.150 --> 51:32.350]  Yeah.
[51:33.070 --> 51:33.710]  Um...
[51:33.710 --> 51:33.990]  Yeah.
[51:34.630 --> 51:35.270]  Okay.
[51:35.770 --> 51:39.490]  Is everybody at this table feeling happy about the shout outs we've given?
[51:39.970 --> 51:41.230]  I'm pretty delirious.
[51:41.730 --> 51:42.270]  Okay.
[51:42.690 --> 51:42.890]  Okay.
[51:43.270 --> 51:43.390]  Okay.
[51:48.060 --> 51:49.020]  That's right.
[51:49.260 --> 51:49.340]  Yeah.
[51:49.480 --> 51:49.980]  Sorry.
[51:50.960 --> 51:53.820]  If the DHP people are in the room, stand up.
[51:54.360 --> 51:55.600]  How did we forget them?
[51:55.860 --> 51:56.860]  They're awesome.
[51:56.860 --> 51:57.820]  What, what, what?
[51:58.360 --> 52:00.380]  They lifted about as much stuff as we did.
[52:00.720 --> 52:02.220]  No, I know exactly who they are.
[52:02.340 --> 52:06.080]  They slept on my floor after the last one when their van was towed.
[52:06.840 --> 52:08.720]  The DHP guys rock.
[52:08.980 --> 52:11.520]  They covered our asses on this one.
[52:11.520 --> 52:12.920]  And the last one.
[52:13.080 --> 52:14.220]  And the last one.
[52:14.320 --> 52:14.640]  And the last one.
[52:14.640 --> 52:15.380]  And the next one too, right?
[52:15.760 --> 52:15.980]  Hey.
[52:16.020 --> 52:16.640]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[52:17.100 --> 52:19.140]  We got a question for DHP.
[52:19.580 --> 52:20.700]  I got one.
[52:21.200 --> 52:22.840]  Did you guys get treated okay here?
[52:26.480 --> 52:27.140]  All right.
[52:27.500 --> 52:28.540]  I'm really sorry.
[52:29.620 --> 52:32.780]  I'm really, really sorry that I didn't thank you.
[52:33.580 --> 52:34.960]  Let's hear it for Major Hacking.
[52:49.730 --> 52:50.990]  Okay, we just handled...
[52:54.510 --> 52:55.450]  Arrest that dog.
[52:56.010 --> 52:59.790]  Mr. and Mrs. Hacking were those really elderly people that were here yesterday.
[52:59.790 --> 53:03.250]  If you didn't see them on the radio show, they were walking around.
[53:04.530 --> 53:06.690]  Major Hacking, that's his real name.
[53:07.310 --> 53:08.510]  We didn't tell the story.
[53:08.850 --> 53:09.630]  Did we tell the story?
[53:09.970 --> 53:11.950]  Well, his last name is Hacking and he was a Major.
[53:12.250 --> 53:12.730]  That's it.
[53:12.810 --> 53:14.010]  Yeah, that's all you need to know.
[53:15.050 --> 53:17.930]  But we're going to tell the whole story on the website.
[53:17.930 --> 53:22.730]  Look for more Major Hacking info at www.2600.com.
[53:23.110 --> 53:23.930]  It's cool.
[53:24.950 --> 53:25.530]  Is that okay?
[53:26.670 --> 53:27.170]  All right.
[53:27.490 --> 53:29.850]  We'll make sure you get the info on Major Hacking.
[53:30.050 --> 53:31.710]  Major Hacking is totally cool.
[53:31.990 --> 53:34.810]  If you were 84, would you come to a hacker conference?
[53:37.690 --> 53:42.710]  If you got lost or went to the wrong convention center on the way, would you still come?
[53:42.710 --> 53:43.150]  Yeah.
[53:45.250 --> 53:45.690]  What?
[53:49.050 --> 53:49.490]  What?
[53:50.190 --> 53:51.610]  AOL convention first.
[53:52.250 --> 53:52.630]  Oh, cool.
[53:53.710 --> 53:55.710]  Don't say AOL in here, please.
[53:57.270 --> 54:01.010]  Major Hacking got home safely, by the way, if anybody else cared.
[54:01.490 --> 54:01.710]  Cool.
[54:05.010 --> 54:05.330]  All right.
[54:05.330 --> 54:07.770]  We should thank our Dutch friends, even though we didn't see much of them.
[54:08.250 --> 54:11.990]  We were supposed to have all kinds of connectivity, but it didn't quite work out.
[54:13.350 --> 54:16.310]  We saw them a few times, they saw us, but we don't know what happened to them.
[54:16.530 --> 54:17.030]  Hey, Eric.
[54:17.730 --> 54:18.530]  We have red light.
[54:18.770 --> 54:19.750]  The red light worked.
[54:19.910 --> 54:20.610]  The red light was cool.
[54:21.010 --> 54:22.350]  The red light was cool.
[54:23.150 --> 54:24.530]  Is the red light guy here?
[54:26.330 --> 54:26.970]  There he is.
[54:27.050 --> 54:27.630]  There he is.
[54:27.730 --> 54:28.350]  Stand up again.
[54:29.850 --> 54:33.250]  That guy came all the way from Holland to make a light here work.
[54:34.010 --> 54:34.710]  Wait a minute.
[54:35.210 --> 54:36.510]  Do you guys know what he did?
[54:36.870 --> 54:37.170]  Yes.
[54:37.470 --> 54:37.750]  Okay.
[54:38.090 --> 54:44.830]  He came all the way from over there to make a switch here, turn a light on there, and a switch there, turn a light on here.
[54:44.990 --> 54:45.810]  It's his art project.
[54:46.030 --> 54:48.490]  I'm sure you'll be able to find out information about it.
[54:48.810 --> 54:49.470]  Through the net.
[54:49.650 --> 54:50.070]  All right.
[54:50.350 --> 54:50.970]  Through the net.
[54:51.250 --> 54:52.410]  By the way, you left the light on.
[54:53.310 --> 54:53.690]  Yeah.
[54:53.850 --> 54:55.790]  Why didn't those people at HIP shut it off?
[54:56.030 --> 54:57.810]  We're going to have to do everything for them?
[54:59.770 --> 55:00.650]  Rob rules.
[55:01.650 --> 55:02.410]  Rob's cool.
[55:02.410 --> 55:05.750]  Did these people know what happened during your opening of HIP?
[55:07.050 --> 55:07.970]  Well, okay.
[55:08.410 --> 55:10.230]  Actually, Cyber's not here right now.
[55:10.390 --> 55:15.550]  But some people who were here kind of hacked one of their web pages anyway.
[55:16.130 --> 55:20.350]  And we announced that to them live over the picture tell.
[55:20.570 --> 55:23.410]  While Eric was giving the HIP opening panel.
[55:23.610 --> 55:25.090]  It was totally cool.
[55:25.410 --> 55:25.990]  Kind of shocked.
[55:26.450 --> 55:27.510]  Can we say who did it?
[55:27.950 --> 55:29.510]  Well, actually a few people did it.
[55:29.510 --> 55:30.530]  So one person didn't do it.
[55:30.530 --> 55:30.690]  Yeah.
[55:30.830 --> 55:34.430]  A whole bunch of people hanging out at not work while we were like really crazed did it.
[55:34.510 --> 55:35.010]  It was great.
[55:36.730 --> 55:37.210]  Cool.
[55:38.450 --> 55:38.930]  Okay.
[55:38.930 --> 55:41.230]  I think it's just about time to give away shit.
[55:42.150 --> 55:42.490]  Okay.
[55:42.810 --> 55:43.210]  Yeah, yeah.
[55:43.330 --> 55:43.630]  Okay.
[55:44.050 --> 55:44.530]  What?
[55:46.010 --> 55:47.610]  We want to stay up here?
[55:48.150 --> 55:51.910]  Anybody at this table right now that wants to leave the table can?
[55:52.910 --> 55:54.290]  Porkchop has the stuff.
[55:55.550 --> 55:56.590]  We have the stuff.
[55:56.790 --> 55:57.030]  Okay.
[55:57.350 --> 55:58.470]  If you all want to stay?
[55:59.010 --> 55:59.270]  Sure.
[55:59.290 --> 55:59.890]  It's fine with me.
[56:00.170 --> 56:03.750]  This is the first time everybody up here had fun at this conference.
[56:04.670 --> 56:05.490]  Is that true?
[56:05.810 --> 56:06.130]  No.
[56:06.310 --> 56:06.750]  No, no.
[56:06.770 --> 56:08.370]  Well, it's the first time I've had any fun.
[56:08.610 --> 56:09.430]  So I'm cool.
[56:09.630 --> 56:10.450]  We're going to give away stuff.
[56:11.970 --> 56:14.130]  Well, we've actually had a really lot of fun.
[56:14.130 --> 56:17.470]  But I haven't ever heard anything that happened in this room until now.
[56:17.950 --> 56:19.130]  Okay, I apologize.
[56:19.150 --> 56:20.230]  That was totally me.
[56:20.610 --> 56:22.290]  This has been the best thing I've ever done.
[56:23.290 --> 56:25.030]  The best time I ever had.
[56:25.930 --> 56:26.370]  Porkchop.
[56:26.470 --> 56:27.850]  Can we pass that stuff down here?
[56:52.080 --> 56:53.520]  Here's what I need to do.
[56:54.360 --> 56:56.720]  Somebody sitting right there with a watch.
[56:58.300 --> 57:00.820]  I know I have one on, but I don't use watches.
[57:01.300 --> 57:03.140]  Needs to tell me when it's 1230.
[57:04.240 --> 57:04.440]  Okay.
[57:04.700 --> 57:05.720]  That's your job.
[57:08.490 --> 57:09.070]  That's your job.
[57:09.130 --> 57:13.290]  That kid that just answered dissed me and didn't wear an Own By Pam shirt.
[57:15.350 --> 57:17.690]  Would you tell me the time and a half an hour if you're here?
[57:19.030 --> 57:19.430]  Thank you.
[57:19.430 --> 57:20.850]  If you're not here, just leave your watch.
[57:22.650 --> 57:24.510]  Somebody else do it for me if he has to go.
[57:25.190 --> 57:25.530]  Thank you.
[57:26.250 --> 57:26.610]  All right.
[57:27.150 --> 57:28.510]  Do we have any idea how we're doing this?
[57:29.690 --> 57:30.490]  Yeah, actually.
[57:30.770 --> 57:35.450]  There's a really cool thing that happened when I made these attendance badges.
[57:35.450 --> 57:42.170]  There's all sorts of ways we planned and had fun with so that you couldn't go photocopy them and think you had a real one.
[57:43.830 --> 57:47.610]  We really didn't check to see if you did it.
[57:49.410 --> 57:49.970]  But...
[57:51.850 --> 57:53.910]  Does anybody think they did it?
[57:56.870 --> 57:57.990]  To what?
[57:59.610 --> 58:00.170]  Cool.
[58:00.530 --> 58:01.430]  No problem.
[58:02.050 --> 58:04.650]  We did some cool stuff to make sure it wouldn't be hacked, though.
[58:06.870 --> 58:07.610]  All right.
[58:07.930 --> 58:08.450]  All right.
[58:10.150 --> 58:14.330]  Does anybody in this room think they know what the numbering sequence is on the badges?
[58:14.750 --> 58:15.150]  Sure.
[58:16.050 --> 58:16.430]  Okay.
[58:16.930 --> 58:19.870]  All day, that's all I wanted to do was make that a contest.
[58:20.890 --> 58:21.590]  All right?
[58:24.310 --> 58:24.790]  Okay.
[58:25.190 --> 58:29.050]  The first thing we're going to do is give away a prize, if anybody gets that right.
[58:29.050 --> 58:31.610]  I'm going to take it...
[58:31.610 --> 58:33.910]  None of those guys can answer.
[58:34.190 --> 58:34.630]  Who?
[58:35.050 --> 58:37.450]  Anybody who knows can't answer.
[58:37.670 --> 58:38.930]  No security people can answer.
[58:38.930 --> 58:39.630]  Do you work security?
[58:40.090 --> 58:41.550]  Steve, that was really lame.
[58:43.110 --> 58:44.170]  Nice try.
[58:47.450 --> 58:48.150]  Okay.
[58:49.670 --> 58:54.970]  Does anybody who doesn't already know think they know what's on the numbers?
[58:56.490 --> 58:56.930]  Okay.
[59:00.630 --> 59:01.710]  I don't know yet.
[59:02.990 --> 59:03.990]  That's my answer.
[59:04.250 --> 59:04.490]  Okay.
[59:04.910 --> 59:12.050]  We had a lot of fun at Knotwork, asking a lot of people, including British people and people that were visiting us, people from other states.
[59:13.050 --> 59:16.050]  They all spent hours trying to figure it out, and they didn't do it.
[59:16.130 --> 59:18.290]  We'll have a contest for that afterwards, then.
[59:18.550 --> 59:20.170]  We need to make this go quickly.
[59:21.310 --> 59:22.610]  Porkchop, hold up something.
[59:24.310 --> 59:25.030]  All right.
[59:25.190 --> 59:26.750]  This was donated by Bernie S.
[59:27.030 --> 59:29.050]  It is... well, maybe you can explain it.
[59:32.650 --> 59:40.310]  Three years ago at HOPE 94, I demonstrated two clipper chip encryption systems.
[59:41.450 --> 59:49.330]  We found out they weren't the greatest thing since sliced bread, because the NSA had a backdoor to the encryption scheme, to the algorithm.
[59:49.330 --> 59:54.370]  But I laid out over $2,000 for those two things to test them out.
[59:54.650 --> 01:00:02.250]  And sometime after that, the Secret Service raided my house and took a whole bunch of shit from me.
[01:00:02.410 --> 01:00:05.430]  And they took one of the two clipper chip encryption units.
[01:00:05.510 --> 01:00:09.610]  I don't know why they didn't take them both, but they left me with one.
[01:00:09.610 --> 01:00:19.810]  And while the box is a little mildewy, because they put it in storage where it was not best for electronic equipment, I did get it back.
[01:00:20.030 --> 01:00:21.650]  And inside it's pristine.
[01:00:21.810 --> 01:00:22.750]  It's still wrapped in plastic.
[01:00:23.010 --> 01:00:29.470]  It's an $1,100 speech encryption unit that you can use to speak to anybody else who has a clipper chip unit.
[01:00:29.770 --> 01:00:30.210]  It's really cool.
[01:00:30.210 --> 01:00:32.170]  And it works on all phones, and it's really cool.
[01:00:32.410 --> 01:00:34.030]  And we're going to give this away.
[01:00:34.030 --> 01:00:34.610]  Okay.
[01:00:34.610 --> 01:00:34.710]  Okay.
[01:00:35.570 --> 01:00:41.370]  This is going to be the prize for anybody who has this badge number.
[01:00:41.510 --> 01:00:43.030]  So everybody should look at their badges.
[01:00:44.010 --> 01:00:46.950]  Know your number, because that's the way that we're going to do this.
[01:00:47.050 --> 01:00:48.230]  And we just decided now.
[01:00:48.870 --> 01:00:49.290]  Okay.
[01:00:49.810 --> 01:00:51.310]  The middle four digits.
[01:00:51.530 --> 01:00:53.670]  There are two digits that start it.
[01:00:53.870 --> 01:00:54.930]  Then there are four in the middle.
[01:00:55.070 --> 01:00:56.630]  Then there are two digits that end it.
[01:00:57.450 --> 01:00:58.530]  This is a clue.
[01:00:58.750 --> 01:00:59.770]  It's a pretty big clue.
[01:01:00.050 --> 01:01:01.650]  It's a really big clue.
[01:01:01.650 --> 01:01:04.030]  I'm not taking volunteers for my contest.
[01:01:04.310 --> 01:01:05.670]  You can answer it soon.
[01:01:06.370 --> 01:01:08.230]  I'm going to read out a number.
[01:01:08.810 --> 01:01:09.190]  Okay.
[01:01:09.950 --> 01:01:15.050]  If the middle four digits of your badge are 2,600, you can have that.
[01:01:15.210 --> 01:01:17.890]  As long as you live within the United States.
[01:01:19.090 --> 01:01:20.810]  This is not exportable.
[01:01:20.970 --> 01:01:21.690]  It is a munition.
[01:01:22.150 --> 01:01:22.630]  Okay.
[01:01:22.970 --> 01:01:25.310]  We tried to give it to the guy who hacked r00t.
[01:01:25.990 --> 01:01:27.270]  He was from Canada, though.
[01:01:27.410 --> 01:01:29.670]  He was from Canada and needed to take it on a bus.
[01:01:30.070 --> 01:01:30.830]  Oh, well.
[01:01:30.830 --> 01:01:32.750]  He wanted other stuff anyway.
[01:01:33.010 --> 01:01:34.110]  Well, actually, he didn't want anything.
[01:01:34.590 --> 01:01:35.450]  He hacked r00t, though.
[01:01:36.030 --> 01:01:36.190]  Okay.
[01:01:36.590 --> 01:01:39.230]  Does anybody in the room have a badge with that number on it?
[01:01:43.270 --> 01:01:43.790]  No?
[01:01:44.730 --> 01:01:45.450]  All right.
[01:01:46.050 --> 01:01:47.150]  How about just a 26?
[01:01:48.150 --> 01:01:48.670]  What?
[01:01:49.030 --> 01:01:50.110]  How about just a 26?
[01:01:50.730 --> 01:01:51.250]  No.
[01:01:51.430 --> 01:01:52.090]  Can't do that.
[01:01:53.030 --> 01:01:53.550]  Okay.
[01:01:55.810 --> 01:01:56.330]  What?
[01:01:57.330 --> 01:01:58.290]  Just hold it.
[01:01:58.450 --> 01:02:02.450]  Oh, we're actually sending him some NSA stuff and some other really cool things.
[01:02:02.450 --> 01:02:04.310]  And hooking him up.
[01:02:04.610 --> 01:02:06.350]  But we couldn't give him this.
[01:02:06.970 --> 01:02:08.630]  So, what I need, you guys.
[01:02:08.890 --> 01:02:09.950]  Everybody at the table.
[01:02:10.430 --> 01:02:10.950]  Wait.
[01:02:11.110 --> 01:02:12.230]  Everybody here at the table.
[01:02:12.710 --> 01:02:18.210]  Everybody at my HOPE Corps table needs to yell out a number starting from here.
[01:02:18.330 --> 01:02:19.610]  Because I can't even think of numbers.
[01:02:19.810 --> 01:02:20.310]  Anatole?
[01:02:20.790 --> 01:02:21.570]  Pick a number.
[01:02:21.750 --> 01:02:23.130]  Yell out that number you just said.
[01:02:25.550 --> 01:02:26.030]  2626.
[01:02:26.770 --> 01:02:28.210]  Does anybody have that number?
[01:02:30.250 --> 01:02:32.210]  Does everybody know their number right now?
[01:02:32.410 --> 01:02:33.730]  Because we need to do this fast.
[01:02:33.910 --> 01:02:35.290]  We're all really crashed and burnt.
[01:02:39.540 --> 01:02:39.680]  Okay.
[01:02:40.500 --> 01:02:41.280]  Yell out the number.
[01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:44.240]  1633.
[01:02:46.240 --> 01:02:46.720]  Okay.
[01:02:47.180 --> 01:02:48.280]  This just isn't going to work.
[01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:50.500]  I guess my numbering sequence is too good.
[01:02:50.500 --> 01:02:53.400]  Well, the odds are one in 10,000 that they would have the number.
[01:02:53.540 --> 01:02:53.580]  That's all.
[01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:54.080]  That's all.
[01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:56.240]  No, you can't do that.
[01:02:56.260 --> 01:02:56.880]  I'm sorry.
[01:02:57.760 --> 01:02:59.900]  Plenty of people have 26's on their badges.
[01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:06.080]  Does anybody have three zeros in a row?
[01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:06.720]  Okay.
[01:03:07.200 --> 01:03:10.480]  For the people at the table, your number is a four-digit number.
[01:03:12.620 --> 01:03:13.500]  Four digits.
[01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:18.950]  Okay.
[01:03:20.090 --> 01:03:26.010]  Unless someone at this table yells out a four-digit number right now that someone has, Steve's going to get this thing.
[01:03:26.230 --> 01:03:28.190]  Steve's the guy that just yelled he had four digits.
[01:03:28.390 --> 01:03:29.210]  He just hacked me.
[01:03:30.670 --> 01:03:31.110]  2734.
[01:03:32.870 --> 01:03:33.430]  All right.
[01:03:33.650 --> 01:03:33.930]  Never mind.
[01:03:34.150 --> 01:03:35.010]  You got it.
[01:03:35.130 --> 01:03:36.690]  Steve, come up here and get it.
[01:03:43.170 --> 01:03:44.890]  Use it in good health.
[01:03:47.390 --> 01:03:47.830]  Oh.
[01:03:48.130 --> 01:03:49.490]  He wants me to autograph it.
[01:03:50.530 --> 01:03:54.210]  If anybody at this table has a better suggestion for how to do this, do it now.
[01:03:56.470 --> 01:03:57.910]  We don't know those numbers.
[01:03:58.070 --> 01:03:58.770]  We don't have rows.
[01:04:00.750 --> 01:04:01.190]  Okay.
[01:04:01.410 --> 01:04:01.970]  Where's Wicked?
[01:04:02.250 --> 01:04:03.530]  Is he still up here at the table?
[01:04:06.850 --> 01:04:09.970]  There was another machine here that had root hacked on it.
[01:04:11.290 --> 01:04:11.790]  Wicked?
[01:04:12.070 --> 01:04:12.470]  Wasn't there?
[01:04:13.470 --> 01:04:13.970]  Yeah.
[01:04:14.150 --> 01:04:14.710]  Get a mic.
[01:04:18.620 --> 01:04:19.880]  Are those people here?
[01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:21.620]  He left.
[01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:22.640]  They left.
[01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:23.380]  Okay.
[01:04:25.120 --> 01:04:28.160]  You guys, I can't think about how we're going to do this.
[01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.540]  Somebody else pick a number or a way to give away this stuff now.
[01:04:36.590 --> 01:04:37.710]  Just yell them out.
[01:04:37.890 --> 01:04:38.530]  It's our thing.
[01:04:39.090 --> 01:04:42.590]  We go up and down the row getting...
[01:04:42.590 --> 01:04:43.290]  They have our names up.
[01:04:43.370 --> 01:04:43.930]  No, shut up.
[01:04:44.130 --> 01:04:46.610]  We go up and down the row of people here.
[01:04:46.830 --> 01:04:49.830]  We read two digits off of the middle four numbers.
[01:04:50.010 --> 01:04:51.050]  That's throw and seek.
[01:04:51.270 --> 01:04:52.190]  We go up and across.
[01:04:53.970 --> 01:04:55.810]  We could just throw stuff at you.
[01:04:55.950 --> 01:04:56.390]  You know what?
[01:04:56.770 --> 01:04:57.370]  Would you like that?
[01:04:59.270 --> 01:04:59.710]  That's...
[01:04:59.710 --> 01:05:00.830]  No, no.
[01:05:00.890 --> 01:05:02.010]  They're going to go flying out.
[01:05:02.170 --> 01:05:02.250]  Okay.
[01:05:02.250 --> 01:05:03.730]  I can't throw some of the stuff.
[01:05:03.990 --> 01:05:09.890]  I'm about to the point where I'd like to, but some of it's like Linux CDs and they're in boxes and they'll kill you.
[01:05:10.870 --> 01:05:12.430]  That's not a good suggestion.
[01:05:13.630 --> 01:05:16.490]  Jim, I don't know the numbers of the rows.
[01:05:16.690 --> 01:05:17.610]  We go up and count.
[01:05:18.430 --> 01:05:19.530]  We don't need to count.
[01:05:19.870 --> 01:05:20.030]  Stop.
[01:05:20.330 --> 01:05:20.770]  Do you want to do it?
[01:05:21.050 --> 01:05:21.390]  No.
[01:05:24.690 --> 01:05:28.890]  If anyone can break dance right here, that would be pretty cool too.
[01:05:30.390 --> 01:05:30.910]  What?
[01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:37.400]  It has to be the middle four digits.
[01:05:38.580 --> 01:05:39.860]  What I need is...
[01:05:41.080 --> 01:05:41.920]  You got a break dancer!
[01:05:42.220 --> 01:05:43.620]  You got a break dancer!
[01:05:44.060 --> 01:05:44.760]  He wins.
[01:05:45.060 --> 01:05:45.420]  He wins.
[01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:47.500]  He should get something for that.
[01:05:47.660 --> 01:05:48.160]  What happened?
[01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:49.180]  Do the words!
[01:05:50.160 --> 01:05:51.520]  Oh, I can't even see your feet.
[01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:54.520]  Give him that t-shirt and a Beyond HOPE sticker.
[01:05:54.520 --> 01:05:57.300]  See, if you do something like that, you just get a prize right away.
[01:05:57.580 --> 01:05:57.940]  No, no.
[01:05:57.940 --> 01:06:01.240]  A t-shirt and one of those Beyond HOPE stickers that everybody wants.
[01:06:01.420 --> 01:06:01.900]  The stickers.
[01:06:03.020 --> 01:06:03.940]  Open them up.
[01:06:04.640 --> 01:06:05.820]  He's going to design the shirt.
[01:06:06.300 --> 01:06:07.420]  Did we...
[01:06:07.420 --> 01:06:07.920]  Oh, wait.
[01:06:08.060 --> 01:06:09.600]  He designed the shirt he's wearing.
[01:06:19.410 --> 01:06:20.170]  Thank you.
[01:06:20.550 --> 01:06:20.970]  Thank you.
[01:06:21.550 --> 01:06:21.950]  Thank you.
[01:06:21.950 --> 01:06:22.230]  Good, thank you.
[01:06:23.330 --> 01:06:23.950]  Thank you.
[01:06:24.070 --> 01:06:24.370]  All right.
[01:06:24.910 --> 01:06:25.590]  Explain this.
[01:06:25.690 --> 01:06:25.950]  Okay.
[01:06:26.490 --> 01:06:26.670]  Hold on.
[01:06:27.230 --> 01:06:27.650]  Hold on.
[01:06:27.890 --> 01:06:27.970]  Hold on.
[01:06:28.170 --> 01:06:28.350]  Hold on.
[01:06:28.350 --> 01:06:29.630]  Is he eligible for the badge?
[01:06:29.950 --> 01:06:30.350]  Who?
[01:06:31.230 --> 01:06:31.630]  No.
[01:06:32.670 --> 01:06:33.450]  He works security.
[01:06:33.870 --> 01:06:34.130]  Sorry.
[01:06:34.450 --> 01:06:35.510]  I see what you guys need to know.
[01:06:36.570 --> 01:06:37.790]  Hey, Pam, how about...
[01:06:37.790 --> 01:06:37.810]  What?
[01:06:37.810 --> 01:06:37.910]  No.
[01:06:38.130 --> 01:06:39.370]  No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[01:06:39.370 --> 01:06:39.770]  No, no, no.
[01:06:39.770 --> 01:06:43.150]  We're not worrying about if you know how our badge numbers works now.
[01:06:44.070 --> 01:06:44.970]  We got it.
[01:06:44.970 --> 01:06:45.670]  It's covered.
[01:06:46.370 --> 01:06:47.050]  Okay.
[01:06:47.050 --> 01:06:47.190]  Okay.
[01:06:47.610 --> 01:06:49.210]  Everybody look at their badge number.
[01:06:49.590 --> 01:06:50.750]  We're going to do this again.
[01:06:51.090 --> 01:06:53.090]  Ignore the first two numbers.
[01:06:53.470 --> 01:06:53.830]  Yeah.
[01:06:54.150 --> 01:06:59.470]  If your next digit is a one, there should be a lot of you.
[01:07:00.210 --> 01:07:00.530]  Okay.
[01:07:00.830 --> 01:07:03.350]  If your next digit is a two.
[01:07:05.130 --> 01:07:05.910]  Raise your hands.
[01:07:06.670 --> 01:07:07.030]  Okay.
[01:07:07.030 --> 01:07:09.710]  What we're going to do is by elimination, when there's one of you, we'll stop.
[01:07:09.870 --> 01:07:11.190]  If your next digit is a three.
[01:07:11.790 --> 01:07:12.510]  One, two, three.
[01:07:14.130 --> 01:07:14.630]  Two, three.
[01:07:14.930 --> 01:07:15.170]  No.
[01:07:15.390 --> 01:07:17.110]  It has to be...
[01:07:17.110 --> 01:07:18.990]  All those positions have to be met, right?
[01:07:18.990 --> 01:07:19.230]  Okay.
[01:07:19.470 --> 01:07:21.050]  Your number is one, two, three.
[01:07:23.810 --> 01:07:24.350]  That's it.
[01:07:24.490 --> 01:07:26.210]  You have all those three numbers in sequence.
[01:07:27.270 --> 01:07:27.910]  Stand up.
[01:07:28.990 --> 01:07:29.870]  We have a winner.
[01:07:30.190 --> 01:07:30.910]  Come up here.
[01:07:31.090 --> 01:07:31.530]  Come up here.
[01:07:31.990 --> 01:07:32.330]  Okay.
[01:07:32.330 --> 01:07:34.190]  Hey, HOPE core people.
[01:07:34.530 --> 01:07:36.270]  We just figured out a way to do this.
[01:07:36.390 --> 01:07:37.150]  It's really easy.
[01:07:37.510 --> 01:07:38.290]  We will be checking.
[01:07:38.550 --> 01:07:39.030]  HOPE core.
[01:07:39.250 --> 01:07:42.690]  People, look at your badges now, if you're on the table.
[01:07:44.050 --> 01:07:44.250]  Okay.
[01:07:44.510 --> 01:07:44.750]  Winner.
[01:07:45.050 --> 01:07:46.110]  A winner.
[01:07:46.830 --> 01:07:50.750]  Your badge number is one, two digits away from mine.
[01:07:51.710 --> 01:07:51.950]  Wow.
[01:07:52.610 --> 01:07:53.430]  Give him something.
[01:07:53.790 --> 01:07:54.630]  You decide.
[01:07:55.110 --> 01:07:55.570]  You're Linux.
[01:07:56.630 --> 01:07:57.990]  That's what I needed to know.
[01:07:58.650 --> 01:07:59.470]  Are you into Linux?
[01:07:59.490 --> 01:08:00.150]  You're next.
[01:08:00.450 --> 01:08:01.390]  Are you into Linux at all?
[01:08:01.490 --> 01:08:01.910]  Wait a minute.
[01:08:02.970 --> 01:08:03.770]  15 minutes.
[01:08:04.190 --> 01:08:04.470]  Okay.
[01:08:04.470 --> 01:08:07.670]  The people giving away stuff should go over there and give away stuff.
[01:08:08.830 --> 01:08:09.810]  Take the prizes.
[01:08:12.430 --> 01:08:13.130]  Wait a minute.
[01:08:13.370 --> 01:08:14.150]  If I'm...
[01:08:14.150 --> 01:08:15.170]  Give him a box on...
[01:08:15.170 --> 01:08:17.870]  This is a book by Rika.
[01:08:18.230 --> 01:08:18.870]  Oh, wow.
[01:08:19.350 --> 01:08:21.210]  You know, we said we'd make this up as it went along.
[01:08:21.370 --> 01:08:22.610]  If you really want stuff, stay.
[01:08:22.770 --> 01:08:23.910]  If you guys need to leave, go.
[01:08:25.290 --> 01:08:25.690]  Okay.
[01:08:26.130 --> 01:08:32.310]  Everybody who had one, two, three in the four digits, their badge number, their badge numbers are really close to mine.
[01:08:32.310 --> 01:08:33.870]  They just won something.
[01:08:34.290 --> 01:08:34.750]  Hey, Eric.
[01:08:35.230 --> 01:08:36.690]  You should win something too, right?
[01:08:37.410 --> 01:08:37.670]  What?
[01:08:38.150 --> 01:08:38.390]  Okay.
[01:08:38.590 --> 01:08:40.190]  Oh, you must have one, two, three in your badge.
[01:08:40.510 --> 01:08:41.750]  I don't want anything.
[01:08:42.850 --> 01:08:44.550]  I want this to be over.
[01:08:45.190 --> 01:08:46.170]  What's the number?
[01:08:46.970 --> 01:08:47.370]  Eric.
[01:08:47.710 --> 01:08:47.850]  Yes.
[01:08:47.850 --> 01:08:52.630]  What I was asking for was for everybody at this table to look at their badge.
[01:08:53.090 --> 01:08:54.210]  I don't have a badge.
[01:08:54.910 --> 01:08:55.410]  Oh, shit.
[01:08:55.430 --> 01:08:56.850]  I made you pay for one.
[01:08:56.970 --> 01:08:57.250]  I know.
[01:08:57.370 --> 01:08:58.050]  I don't have a badge.
[01:08:58.170 --> 01:08:58.510]  Oh, shit.
[01:08:58.630 --> 01:08:59.610]  David, do you have one?
[01:08:59.830 --> 01:09:00.990]  No, I don't have a badge either.
[01:09:01.290 --> 01:09:02.310]  Okay, everyone on this table...
[01:09:02.310 --> 01:09:03.110]  Can anyone rap?
[01:09:03.410 --> 01:09:03.870]  Okay, cool.
[01:09:03.990 --> 01:09:04.530]  I mean, we got mics.
[01:09:04.830 --> 01:09:04.930]  Ready?
[01:09:06.350 --> 01:09:07.710]  One, one.
[01:09:08.130 --> 01:09:11.570]  Everyone who's got that number in that four-digit sequence.
[01:09:11.970 --> 01:09:13.030]  One, one.
[01:09:13.270 --> 01:09:13.830]  Stand up.
[01:09:14.350 --> 01:09:15.990]  The next number is a six.
[01:09:16.930 --> 01:09:17.630]  Stay standing.
[01:09:18.750 --> 01:09:20.230]  How many people are standing?
[01:09:20.570 --> 01:09:21.970]  One, two...
[01:09:21.970 --> 01:09:22.810]  You come up here.
[01:09:22.950 --> 01:09:23.370]  Now.
[01:09:24.730 --> 01:09:26.250]  Get some free stuff.
[01:09:27.690 --> 01:09:28.790]  Do you have a badge?
[01:09:29.050 --> 01:09:30.430]  Are you into Linux at all?
[01:09:32.670 --> 01:09:33.550]  Here's a great thing.
[01:09:33.790 --> 01:09:33.890]  Wait.
[01:09:34.410 --> 01:09:36.290]  This is an antique memory board.
[01:09:36.370 --> 01:09:37.230]  It's over 30 years old.
[01:09:37.490 --> 01:09:39.070]  You guys kept getting in here without one?
[01:09:39.750 --> 01:09:40.410]  We need to talk.
[01:09:41.030 --> 01:09:41.190]  Okay.
[01:09:44.130 --> 01:09:44.570]  Okay.
[01:09:44.970 --> 01:09:48.210]  If your badge starts with the number...
[01:09:48.210 --> 01:09:48.870]  It's core memory.
[01:09:49.310 --> 01:09:49.690]  Very good.
[01:09:50.010 --> 01:09:50.330]  Okay.
[01:09:51.190 --> 01:09:53.350]  Is that all the stuff we need to explain when we talk?
[01:09:53.350 --> 01:09:53.870]  Do you want me to give it away?
[01:09:54.110 --> 01:09:54.230]  Four.
[01:09:54.750 --> 01:09:56.070]  You can take a picture.
[01:09:56.190 --> 01:09:56.490]  Okay.
[01:09:56.970 --> 01:09:59.350]  If your middle four-digit starts with six...
[01:10:00.630 --> 01:10:01.110]  Seven...
[01:10:01.110 --> 01:10:02.170]  Japanese book on hacking?
[01:10:02.450 --> 01:10:02.570]  Eight.
[01:10:03.590 --> 01:10:05.130]  How many people are standing?
[01:10:05.870 --> 01:10:06.330]  Oh, no.
[01:10:11.050 --> 01:10:12.110]  Let me see that.
[01:10:12.250 --> 01:10:13.530]  What's your next digit, Rebel?
[01:10:16.230 --> 01:10:16.710]  Whoa.
[01:10:17.130 --> 01:10:18.290]  That's really cool, right?
[01:10:18.630 --> 01:10:18.690]  I missed it by one.
[01:10:19.970 --> 01:10:23.010]  Rebel's badge number is one away from memes who ran registration.
[01:10:23.010 --> 01:10:24.950]  You get something free.
[01:10:25.230 --> 01:10:26.150]  Somebody give him something.
[01:10:26.390 --> 01:10:27.690]  Don't give him a microphone.
[01:10:29.890 --> 01:10:31.390]  Rebel, here's your badge.
[01:10:32.010 --> 01:10:32.290]  Rebel?
[01:10:32.890 --> 01:10:33.150]  Rebel?
[01:10:33.450 --> 01:10:35.710]  You don't want to lose this, I don't think.
[01:10:36.270 --> 01:10:37.630]  Now leave the table.
[01:10:38.070 --> 01:10:38.690]  Captain Crunch.
[01:10:38.930 --> 01:10:40.030]  Captain Crunch is...
[01:10:40.030 --> 01:10:41.890]  Captain Crunch and Rebel.
[01:10:45.230 --> 01:10:46.230]  What's your number?
[01:10:46.590 --> 01:10:49.810]  From what I heard too, Captain Crunch is quite the raver.
[01:10:50.290 --> 01:10:50.730]  Doctor...
[01:10:50.730 --> 01:10:51.730]  Doctor Linux.
[01:10:52.130 --> 01:10:52.590]  All right.
[01:10:53.350 --> 01:10:54.390]  What's your badge number?
[01:10:54.710 --> 01:10:55.390]  That was right.
[01:10:55.650 --> 01:10:56.130]  Six, seven, eight.
[01:10:56.550 --> 01:10:56.870]  Cool.
[01:10:57.310 --> 01:10:57.750]  Okay.
[01:10:58.390 --> 01:10:59.550]  What about that kid standing?
[01:10:59.690 --> 01:11:00.910]  Does he have one at six, seven, eight?
[01:11:01.070 --> 01:11:01.910]  Do you have badge on him?
[01:11:01.930 --> 01:11:02.150]  No, no.
[01:11:02.350 --> 01:11:02.690]  Does he have...
[01:11:02.690 --> 01:11:02.870]  No.
[01:11:03.270 --> 01:11:03.750]  Okay, no.
[01:11:03.810 --> 01:11:06.590]  Does anybody in the room still have a six, seven, eight badge?
[01:11:07.750 --> 01:11:08.050]  Okay.
[01:11:10.410 --> 01:11:11.970]  Does your badge number start?
[01:11:12.090 --> 01:11:13.450]  This is your third, fourth and fifth numbers on your badge.
[01:11:13.610 --> 01:11:14.130]  I'm sorry?
[01:11:14.990 --> 01:11:16.050]  The middle four digits.
[01:11:16.270 --> 01:11:17.650]  It's the middle four digits.
[01:11:17.650 --> 01:11:20.070]  Okay, we're going to go to stupid geek tricks.
[01:11:20.230 --> 01:11:21.290]  Are we taping this?
[01:11:21.530 --> 01:11:21.770]  Yeah.
[01:11:22.250 --> 01:11:22.550]  Okay.
[01:11:22.790 --> 01:11:23.550]  That's a mistake.
[01:11:24.250 --> 01:11:24.510]  Why?
[01:11:24.810 --> 01:11:25.950]  No, I want it taped.
[01:11:26.850 --> 01:11:27.370]  Okay.
[01:11:27.710 --> 01:11:29.630]  Everybody look at their badge in the room.
[01:11:29.830 --> 01:11:32.990]  Stick your thumb over the left two digits.
[01:11:34.210 --> 01:11:34.730]  Okay.
[01:11:35.130 --> 01:11:36.310]  Take your other thumb.
[01:11:36.530 --> 01:11:38.490]  If you want to win something, do this.
[01:11:38.650 --> 01:11:41.150]  And stick it over the right two digits.
[01:11:41.710 --> 01:11:43.450]  That's your number.
[01:11:43.630 --> 01:11:44.190]  Oh, cool.
[01:11:44.190 --> 01:11:45.010]  You got it?
[01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:52.100]  Okay.
[01:11:52.580 --> 01:12:00.700]  If your number starts with a two, then next comes seven, then next comes three.
[01:12:03.200 --> 01:12:04.800]  Are you the only person now?
[01:12:05.020 --> 01:12:05.560]  Come here.
[01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:10.020]  Your badge number is what when you get here?
[01:12:10.180 --> 01:12:11.020]  This is a good system.
[01:12:11.120 --> 01:12:11.640]  Who thought of this?
[01:12:12.240 --> 01:12:14.720]  Not work development labs and me.
[01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:15.440]  Right.
[01:12:15.440 --> 01:12:17.040]  What's your badge number?
[01:12:18.080 --> 01:12:18.560]  2732.
[01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:20.740]  No, I designed the numbering system.
[01:12:21.340 --> 01:12:21.820]  2732.
[01:12:22.120 --> 01:12:22.300]  All right.
[01:12:22.360 --> 01:12:23.220]  You're two digits away.
[01:12:23.380 --> 01:12:24.280]  You get free stuff.
[01:12:24.480 --> 01:12:24.680]  Cool.
[01:12:24.860 --> 01:12:25.560]  Hey there, Pam.
[01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:26.480]  You got 10 minutes.
[01:12:27.260 --> 01:12:27.500]  Hey.
[01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:28.940]  What's your badge number?
[01:12:31.360 --> 01:12:31.840]  3413.
[01:12:32.580 --> 01:12:32.920]  What?
[01:12:33.160 --> 01:12:34.820]  How about a book by Rika?
[01:12:35.160 --> 01:12:37.480]  A Japanese journalist about hacking in Japan.
[01:12:37.780 --> 01:12:38.820]  I don't know how to...
[01:12:38.820 --> 01:12:39.960]  I don't know what that means, Ryan.
[01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:41.000]  Okay.
[01:12:41.200 --> 01:12:42.480]  If your badge number...
[01:12:42.480 --> 01:12:42.560]  What?
[01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:43.400]  10 minutes.
[01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:45.500]  We need a 10 minute break.
[01:12:46.020 --> 01:12:47.460]  We have 10 minutes left.
[01:12:47.620 --> 01:12:47.700]  Excellent.
[01:12:48.400 --> 01:12:50.060]  If your badge number starts with three.
[01:12:50.860 --> 01:12:51.120]  Zero.
[01:12:52.040 --> 01:12:52.320]  Zero.
[01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:54.360]  Anybody?
[01:12:55.700 --> 01:12:56.720]  Come up here.
[01:12:57.700 --> 01:12:59.880]  Next badge from the table.
[01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:03.020]  If your badge number starts with five.
[01:13:04.020 --> 01:13:04.680]  One.
[01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:05.540]  Power tools.
[01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:06.500]  Six.
[01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:08.880]  Anybody still standing?
[01:13:09.420 --> 01:13:10.480]  Come up here.
[01:13:14.360 --> 01:13:15.060]  All right.
[01:13:15.500 --> 01:13:18.400]  By the way, that's the error code of 2600 Magazine.
[01:13:18.780 --> 01:13:19.620]  That's really cool.
[01:13:20.460 --> 01:13:22.040]  Give him something really cool.
[01:13:23.740 --> 01:13:25.440]  No, it's not very good at it.
[01:13:25.480 --> 01:13:25.900]  No, no.
[01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:26.240]  Wait.
[01:13:26.400 --> 01:13:27.260]  You can win too.
[01:13:28.020 --> 01:13:29.540]  Did you win something here already?
[01:13:30.140 --> 01:13:30.440]  No.
[01:13:30.440 --> 01:13:31.740]  No, it's 516.
[01:13:32.700 --> 01:13:33.180]  Five.
[01:13:33.380 --> 01:13:33.860]  One.
[01:13:34.260 --> 01:13:34.360]  Six.
[01:13:34.820 --> 01:13:38.180]  The four digits go five, one, six.
[01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:40.500]  You should be looking at four digits.
[01:13:40.660 --> 01:13:42.900]  It should go five, one, six.
[01:13:43.240 --> 01:13:43.620]  Thank you.
[01:13:44.100 --> 01:13:45.320]  Does anybody not know that?
[01:13:45.500 --> 01:13:46.780]  We're stopping this in 10 minutes.
[01:13:46.980 --> 01:13:48.480]  Somebody else hand me a badge.
[01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:53.120]  Somebody at my table now hand me a badge.
[01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:54.240]  Do we have any of the badges?
[01:13:55.220 --> 01:13:55.740]  Richie.
[01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:56.340]  Batches?
[01:13:56.440 --> 01:13:57.440]  What's your badge number?
[01:13:58.040 --> 01:13:58.560]  Batches?
[01:13:59.660 --> 01:14:00.120]  What?
[01:14:00.540 --> 01:14:01.560]  I called all those combinations.
[01:14:01.820 --> 01:14:02.520]  I schmoozed the shit out of it.
[01:14:02.740 --> 01:14:03.000]  Okay.
[01:14:03.240 --> 01:14:05.360]  Whose badge starts 266?
[01:14:05.780 --> 01:14:06.240]  You and David.
[01:14:07.200 --> 01:14:08.720]  I schmoozed the door prizes.
[01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:10.240]  He gets a door prize.
[01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:11.080]  Other stuff.
[01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:13.600]  Ed, do you have a badge on?
[01:14:13.800 --> 01:14:14.360]  I do.
[01:14:14.540 --> 01:14:15.060]  3413.
[01:14:15.060 --> 01:14:17.440]  Did we give away anything on yours yet?
[01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:18.780]  I don't think so.
[01:14:19.280 --> 01:14:24.480]  Who has a number that goes three, four, one?
[01:14:24.500 --> 01:14:25.020]  Anybody?
[01:14:26.340 --> 01:14:26.860]  Anybody?
[01:14:28.220 --> 01:14:30.840]  Nobody's got a badge near Bernie S?
[01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:32.640]  How do we do that?
[01:14:33.100 --> 01:14:33.280]  Bueller.
[01:14:33.280 --> 01:14:33.640]  Bueller.
[01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:34.320]  I'm unique.
[01:14:35.480 --> 01:14:35.900]  You.
[01:14:36.140 --> 01:14:37.560]  Yell out your badge number.
[01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:38.280]  That would be bad luck.
[01:14:38.500 --> 01:14:38.880]  I'm sorry.
[01:14:39.120 --> 01:14:41.320]  You guy right here, yell out your badge number.
[01:14:41.940 --> 01:14:44.140]  That four digits I'm looking for.
[01:14:44.140 --> 01:14:44.820]  In the middle.
[01:14:45.260 --> 01:14:45.620]  Okay.
[01:14:45.820 --> 01:14:49.440]  If your badge number goes one, two, two.
[01:14:50.160 --> 01:14:51.240]  He's going to win.
[01:14:52.040 --> 01:14:53.780]  He's not going to win this.
[01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:59.020]  Actually, you can have free stuff for yelling out the badge number.
[01:14:59.960 --> 01:15:00.900]  You can two.
[01:15:01.180 --> 01:15:01.600]  Four.
[01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:05.160]  One, two, two.
[01:15:06.260 --> 01:15:08.400]  Anybody else in the room have a badge like that?
[01:15:09.340 --> 01:15:10.540]  Then you come up here.
[01:15:10.540 --> 01:15:11.080]  Four.
[01:15:11.240 --> 01:15:12.100]  Richie, you too.
[01:15:12.420 --> 01:15:16.120]  What I need is a badge number from my staff at this table.
[01:15:16.260 --> 01:15:17.600]  Do you guys have any more?
[01:15:18.380 --> 01:15:18.860]  451.
[01:15:19.240 --> 01:15:19.840]  I got that.
[01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:20.340]  Thank you.
[01:15:20.460 --> 01:15:20.900]  That was...
[01:15:20.900 --> 01:15:22.820]  I've been saying that several times.
[01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:24.540]  I got one more left.
[01:15:24.660 --> 01:15:25.580]  We'll all get...
[01:15:25.580 --> 01:15:26.320]  One more what?
[01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:27.740]  Well, two more door prizes.
[01:15:27.940 --> 01:15:28.260]  Okay.
[01:15:29.740 --> 01:15:30.680]  Thank you, guys.
[01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:31.100]  Wow.
[01:15:31.320 --> 01:15:32.680]  That really works, doesn't it?
[01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:35.280]  The next number is three.
[01:15:35.700 --> 01:15:36.360]  Two.
[01:15:37.280 --> 01:15:38.580]  Anybody standing?
[01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:39.860]  Is this you?
[01:15:40.160 --> 01:15:41.760]  The next digit is three.
[01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:43.920]  Then it's yours.
[01:15:44.180 --> 01:15:44.540]  Come here.
[01:15:45.280 --> 01:15:48.040]  This guy kicks ass.
[01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:49.720]  Yeah.
[01:15:51.460 --> 01:15:55.640]  This guy bounced my door for the last several hours.
[01:15:56.440 --> 01:15:58.080]  That's my cell phone.
[01:15:59.860 --> 01:16:01.780]  This guy just gets whatever he wants.
[01:16:01.940 --> 01:16:02.300]  What's left?
[01:16:02.700 --> 01:16:03.220]  He's got your keys, too.
[01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:04.380]  Thank you.
[01:16:05.260 --> 01:16:07.060]  Give him everything that's left.
[01:16:07.160 --> 01:16:07.980]  That, too.
[01:16:09.200 --> 01:16:09.920]  We're done.
[01:16:10.260 --> 01:16:10.820]  Thank you.
[01:16:11.780 --> 01:16:12.520]  Thanks, everyone.
[01:16:13.320 --> 01:16:14.860]  We'd like to thank you all.
[01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:16.240]  All the free stuff is gone.
[01:16:17.060 --> 01:16:19.180]  Take your badges back, HOPE for our staff.
[01:16:21.820 --> 01:16:23.140]  Two more prizes, really.
[01:16:23.360 --> 01:16:23.620]  Okay.
[01:16:24.700 --> 01:16:26.020]  Give them to somebody who deserves them.
[01:16:26.120 --> 01:16:27.120]  I want this.
[01:16:27.460 --> 01:16:27.920]  Okay.
[01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:27.980]  Okay?
[01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:28.660]  Bye.
[01:16:29.160 --> 01:16:29.420]  Bye.
[01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:30.560]  Bye.
[01:16:31.120 --> 01:16:31.760]  Bye.