...conferencing. Why police have to travel to the courthouse to make the arrangements.
You know, there are a thousand ways in which we can get more police on the street without actually having new recruits.
Even the Strap Hangers campaign, a group that monitors the subways, express patience with the move,
which will also delay the training of 270 new transit officers.
Joe Rappaport is a spokesperson for the group.
Well, the mayor has given himself four years to get an officer on every train at night.
This isn't a good start. It is a short delay, we hope.
If the class doesn't get going in six weeks or soon after, I think it would make sense to be very concerned,
and we would be extremely concerned about a delay of that nature.
And finally, Thomas Rapetto, president of the Citizens' Crime Commission, says he thinks Dinkins will soon change his mind.
I understand why the mayor has to be prudent at the beginning of his administration and make sure how much money is available,
but I'm sure that after he reviews the situation with his new police commissioner, Lee Brown,
he will decide that this police class is needed and probably even more police strength.
For WBAI, this is Sam Green reporting.
And finally tonight, for the first time in Connecticut history,
the State Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities has issued a ruling against a real estate agency for racial steering.
The ruling was issued in the case of Cynthia Watts, a black woman who took part in a law school project
which targeted four real estate agencies to determine if they were illegally directing African Americans to certain neighborhoods
and whites to others. Richard Vecchio has more.
Cynthia Watts was a first-year law student at the University of Connecticut School of Law
when she first walked through the doors of Plaza Realty in Hartford.
What the class decided to do was just randomly select real estate companies in the Hartford area,
in particular on Farmington Avenue in Hartford,
and just send out testers to see whether they would find any evidence of discrimination.
And I participated in a tester, as a tester in that program,
and as a result of the testing, after being compared with another white tester of a similar background,
a similar appearance, a similar preference,
we found that we were given completely different department listings.
Watts filed a complaint with the Connecticut State Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities.
Initially, the complaint was dismissed by them without investigation,
and at that time I had a pro bono attorney who successfully argued that the commission should reconsider their case,
in which, in fact, they did, and it was investigated and certified to go to hearing.
Cynthia, let me ask you a question.
Sure.
This is the first ruling in a case like this.
Do you think that the commission has done its job up until now?
Well, I think the commission has been plagued with a number of problems,
and I think we're going to see some changes in the commission,
in part due to changes in their enabling legislation that are going to require them to do more thorough investigations earlier on,
and if they find reasonable cause, they have to do a hearing within 90 days.
So I think that there's going to be a lot of changes.
Do you think that your training as a lawyer is what helped get this case put through?
Yes, I do.
I think, had I not been a law student at the time,
it probably would not have been pushed along and pursued to this degree,
in part because I was able to get a pro bono attorney who picked up the ball for me while I was in law school,
and many people, as you know, that really would be pursuing these types of claims
don't have the resources to retain a lawyer,
so often those cases are another reason why they get pushed on the back burner.
So it takes a lawyer to, you know, take an aggressive stance and make sure things are getting pushed along,
and again, you know, because my case was initially dismissed,
I think someone who didn't have a lawyer would have just settled at that stage
and not really realized the recourse that one would have.
The assistant to the Attorney General of Connecticut, Tom Garropy,
says the people of Connecticut are encouraged to file complaints with the Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities
when they feel they've been discriminated against,
but he's not unaware of the fact that this is the first time in Connecticut's history
that a racial steering case has been ruled on.
The difficulty is that steering is a fairly sophisticated and fairly subtle form of discrimination.
In order to prove steering, you have to have two people involved,
other than the people who've allegedly committed the offense.
You have to have someone who is a member of the affected group, a minority, for example,
and you have to have someone else.
It's not the sort of thing where if you go out to rent an apartment
and you're subject to that, you necessarily know.
In fact, Cynthia Watts said today during our news conference that by herself,
when she walked out of that real estate office with a list of apartments and addresses in her hand,
she was not at that point even aware that this was steering
because she was not familiar with the housing market in Hartford.
She was a new law student in town, didn't know neighborhoods,
the streets didn't mean anything to her,
and had no suspicion at all that the white woman who had been to that office
just a short time previous had completely different addresses.
Having been found guilty of steering, Plaza Realty must pay Cynthia Watts $1,500.
They'll also have to provide information to the Connecticut Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities
to prove they are not continuing the racist practice.
They have 30 days to decide if they want to appeal the ruling.
If they do, the case will go to civil court.
Plaza Realty could not be reached for comment.
Meanwhile, the Commission, along with the Department of Consumer Protection,
is completing a study to determine how widespread racial steering is in Connecticut.
For WBAI News, this is Richard Vecchio reporting.
And that's some of the news for Thursday, January 4, 1989.
The news was engineered by Jennifer Burnett.
It was produced with Evelyn Tully-Costa, Sam Green, Tari Karam,
Sasha Niari, Nadine Michelle Shaw, Ricky Vecchio, and David Sears.
I'm Amy Goodman in New York with Tara Seiler in Washington
for WBAI listener-supported news.
And special thanks to Undercurrent's producers Dennis Bernstein and Laura Flanders.
Hey, was that thunder?
Thunder?
It was thunder.
Well, good evening to everybody out there.
It's not really thunder, at least not yet, but it might be soon.
This is Emanuel Goldstein.
It's not Citizen Kafka.
Citizen Kafka has moved.
For those of you who have tuned in wanting to hear him,
he can now be heard Tuesday mornings from, I believe, 6 to 9.30.
Or thereabouts.
Definitely in there somewhere, 6 to 9.30.
My name's Emanuel Goldstein, as I just said,
and I will be here on Thursday nights for the indefinite future, I'm told,
until 1 o'clock, 11.45 until 1, alternating with Andrew Phillips.
However, for the next couple of weeks at least, I'll be filling in for Andrew Phillips,
so it's just going to be me here at this time slot.
And I have a semi-name for this program, calling it the Fifth Corner.
Why, in God's name, would I call a program, the Fifth Corner?
Well, if you take a look at the way things shape up sometimes at this radio station,
the way things are in life sometimes,
there's always another side to everything, another dimension.
We're taught that there's four corners to the world,
but somehow you get the feeling that maybe there's something more.
And I don't mean to get into all this spiritual kind of stuff,
because that's not what it's all about.
But the Fifth Corner sort of implies something magical,
something different, something that you wouldn't ordinarily think of.
And that's what we're going to try to do here during the all-too-brief time we have.
I never realized before how short an hour and 15 minutes is.
And this is kind of a, I guess, a warning to those of you listening now,
because in about an hour and 12 minutes,
you will probably hear me complaining bitterly about how the time has gone by so quickly,
and how there's just not enough time to do all the things that there are to do on the radio.
And, boy, folks, there are a lot of things to do.
We're going to try to do some of them tonight as sort of an intro to all the potential that's out there.
They include things like listening to a special greeting from Moscow,
which I just received.
We'll also have a special guest drop in for a brief moment.
And we'll talk about all kinds of other neat things, too, as well as hear a bit of music.
But, boy, an hour and 15 minutes, I don't know how much we can do in that time.
Anyway, we'll give it a shot.
This, by the way, is Jean-Michel Jaré off the Equinox album, one of my all-time favorites,
which is why it kind of bothers me that I'm talking over it, so enough of that.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
Why can you believe 1990 is here?
I'm sorry, Jean-Michel. I can't bear not talking on the radio sometimes.
I'll keep him right about there.
Yeah, I think that'll do for now, as long as he doesn't do anything outrageous.
Yeah, 1990, folks. 1990 is here.
I mean, for those of us who have trouble dealing with just, you know, the everyday things, you know,
like the sun rising and all that kind of thing, it's 1990.
Wow, 10 years away from 2000.
And what does that mean, you know?
A lot of questions have to be answered by 2000.
For instance, what do we call those 10 years between 2000 and 2010?
You can't call them the hundreds because that's sort of the whole century is the hundreds.
What are you going to call them, the zeros?
You know, it's kind of a bad way to, you know, to talk about the time in which you live.
What are you going to say? I was born in the zeros.
This doesn't sound very good.
The teens, yeah, the 20s, we go through all that again, but I'm still at a loss as to just what that means.
And by the way, a lot of people have been quibbling about this, and I don't mean to extend upon it, but, oh, why not?
1990 does not actually begin with the 1990s.
1991 does, because when we started counting years, however long ago that was, we started with the year one, not the year zero.
So, this is actually the last year of the 1980s decade.
You have to wonder what's going to happen in 10 years.
I mean, you know, the 2000th birthday of Christ, that's cause for something huge, I don't doubt.
We'll have to see what's on the agenda.
But anyway, 1990 is here, and it hasn't hit me yet.
I mean, I'm still writing 89 whenever I write something out.
I'm sure just about everybody else is, too.
It still feels like the 80s, but the 80s have had kind of a weird transition in them.
I was talking to somebody about this the other day, about when the 60s actually ended.
We figured the 60s ended at about 1973, and then the 70s took over, and the 70s went until about 1986, I think.
Now, I consider the 70s to be a very bland, dull period where not much happened and nobody really cared.
Well, the fact remains that not very many people still care, but there are exciting things happening.
You know, there's something happening on the sunrise, on the horizon.
The sun is rising on the horizon or something like that.
I don't know.
There are changes.
There is weirdness going on.
And I have the feeling that the 1990s, although I've said this at the beginning of every decade that I've been around for,
I just have the feeling this one is going to be a really momentous one.
Only because we've gotten so used to momentous things over the last couple of years.
I mean, you know, look at Eastern Europe.
Look what's going on over there.
All over the world.
I mean, not just Eastern Europe, but the potential is here.
We've learned a lot.
We've been through hell, and we're still going through hell in many ways.
Hopefully, WBAI will be a major part of the 1990s.
I know it's changed things for me ever since I started listening to this radio station,
and since I became involved with it, it's opened me up to so much.
You know, so many different cultures and ways of looking at things.
And I hope it has the same effect on the listeners.
Well, I don't know what most folks were doing over the holiday period,
but I actually did something different this year.
I went down to Florida, of all places.
I've never been to Florida in my life.
And the only reason I decided to go down to Florida was because I had this free trip I had to cash in on a few years ago.
A few years ago, believe it or not.
There was this airline promotion where if you took an airline, I won't say the name of the airline.
I should say the name of the airline, but I won't.
I took this airline down to Washington, D.C. with a friend of mine.
And the deal was, because they had just taken over some other airline or something like that,
that ought to give you a good hint anyway.
Since they had just done that, they were very happy about it.
And they were giving out these little scratch cards.
And they said, okay, we're going to give you a scratch card.
And you're going to scratch off one of the little panels.
And it'll tell you where you've won a free trip to.
And I said, great, you know, I'll take an unsuspecting friend along, pay for their ticket,
and then I'll have two tickets to some strange place.
Well, one of the places was Florida, West Palm Beach.
The only thing was, I did this back in, I think, 1986 sometime.
And the date that it was good for was late 1989.
So I guess they figured most people would forget about it by then.
I didn't, however.
And I called up the airline and asked for directions on what to do and all that kind of thing.
And they, of course, gave me the complete wrong directions.
And it turned out that I had to, at the last minute, make a change and go about a week earlier.
So this airline is about the only one I can think of where you get a free trip and feel ripped off.
And it doesn't end there either.
You know, I went to the airport to actually take the trip, you know, to get on the plane and go.
And when I got there, they treated me like I was a standby, you know, like I didn't have a ticket.
And they were treating all the people like that.
Well, not all the people, but the people who were showing up.
They were saying, well, we don't have a ticket for you.
I mean, we don't have a seat for you.
And we don't have any prospects of seats on any future flights.
We're sorry.
That's just the way it is.
You know, most airlines are very, you know, very apologetic when that happens.
And they give you free trips to all kinds of other places.
But they weren't like that at all.
They were treating everybody like it was their fault, even though people have made reservations, you know, in one case a year in advance.
So, anyway, it looked like I wasn't going to be able to even make it down there after going through all this.
And I was really getting upset.
I mean, you know, free trips are supposed to be fun, not an ordeal.
So, finally, ten minutes after the plane was supposed to have taken off, they asked if anybody was traveling by themselves.
And I looked around, didn't see anybody with me, and I said, hey, I'm by myself.
And they said, okay, sir, come with us.
And they took me to the airplane, and they deposited me in first class.
Never been in first class in my life, and probably never will be again.
For the life of me, I can't understand why people travel in first class on airplanes.
I mean, this is what happened, okay?
I walked into the airplane, and they said, hello, sir, may I take your coat, sir?
Okay, two sirs, great.
They took my coat, hung it up someplace, wonderful.
Sat down, in front of me, a rumpled copy of yesterday's USA Today.
Great, you know, it's a free newspaper, wonderful.
Sat down, read the newspaper, plane took off, we're up in the sky, all that kind of thing.
Came by, asked me if I wanted a Pepsi, you know?
It's like, wow, you mean the people back there, all those peons, they don't get Pepsis before their meal, but I can get a Pepsi.
Wow, it was simply incredible.
So I got a Pepsi, and then they brought out the meal, whatever it was, I guess it was lunch or something.
And instead of being on those old plastic, you know, plastic utensils and plastic cups and everything like that,
it was, you know, a real dish and a real glass, you know, with a little sort of like champagne look to it.
And it was nice, but, you know, I still had to give it back afterwards, so that wasn't much fun.
And, folks, that was it. That's first class.
You know, it's not worth an extra several hundred dollars just for that.
I mean, I really, they say there's a little bit extra legroom, but I didn't really notice it.
So that's something I learned over the last couple of weeks.
Anyway, I'd like to talk about Florida a bit, because, you know, I learned a couple of things down there
that I've sort of brought back with me here to New York.
Like, one thing is, well, when I got there, it was extremely cold.
It was, I believe, 32 degrees, which is unusual for them.
But one thing I learned was the amazing diversity of culture,
particularly the Latin American culture that prevails down there.
And it's different from up here, because down there, it's so dominant.
It's everywhere.
And, for instance, New York City only has one Spanish FM radio station.
Just one.
And in Miami, there must be about five or six.
And they're all different.
They don't all sound the same.
And they're all, you know, one caters to Cubans, one caters to Venezuelans.
There's a difference between them all.
And it's incredible when you open yourself up to that kind of an experience.
And you listen to the radio stations, and you hang out with the people.
And you just sort of get involved in the way people live.
It's the most incredible thing.
Almost everyone down there knows some Spanish anyway.
It's essential.
You know, how can you get through life when you can't communicate with a lot of people around you?
Of course, we hear a lot of things.
We hear about how, you know, Miami is the drug capital of the country.
And how there's all kinds of racial tensions.
And both of those may be true.
But in everyday life, there's so much more that you don't see in the newspapers, on television.
And that's the really important stuff.
Those little day-to-day contacts.
The things that you can pick up just by walking down a street.
And that's the stuff you can only get as an individual.
So, one thing that I got out of going down to Miami over the holidays was a desire.
A desire to know more.
To learn more about the culture.
To visit these cultures.
And be with the people.
I hung out with a bunch of Nicaraguans this Christmas.
Actually, they were...
A friend of mine said to me,
These Nicaraguans are really conservative.
So, whatever you do, don't talk about politics.
Don't talk about religion.
Don't talk about Sandinistas.
Don't talk about Nicaragua.
You know, talk about the weather.
Yeah, you know, it's 32 degrees outside.
So, that's plenty to talk about.
That should last all night long.
And, you know, it got me all nervous.
These wicked conservative Nicaraguans.
They were...
You know, as soon as I said one thing wrong, I was going to be, you know, called a communist.
And, uh...
Oh, I was...
I was really worried and nervous.
And so I got all dressed up for this thing.
You know?
Because you have to get all dressed up for these formal occasions.
This was a Christmas Eve celebration.
And I arrived at the house and walked in the door.
I guess I was visibly sweating, shaking like a leaf.
And the first person I see walks up to me, introduces himself, shakes my hand, and says,
So, what do you think of Gorbachev?
And, you know, it's not the kind of thing you can fudge your way through.
I told him what I thought of Gorbachev.
I said, the man is an historical figure.
He's making lots of changes.
He's doing a lot of good.
And words to that effect.
And I got into this rousing discussion with a lot of people there.
There was no animosity.
We were obviously from different sides of the fence.
But we were able to communicate.
We were able to talk back and forth.
And I think the problem stems from when you were afraid to do that.
When you say, oh, these people won't understand.
They'll attack you if you say something different.
Well, they didn't attack.
We had lots of fun in our various languages.
And I'm sure I didn't convince anyone of my side.
I know they didn't convince me of their side.
But we were able to mix a little bit.
And that's really all that matters.
Because if you can't reach people, if you can't communicate with them, what's the point?
You know, what's the point of even trying to communicate?
If you're afraid to even bring something up.
So I think that's what we need to do in the 1990s and every year.
Don't be afraid to be in disagreement with somebody.
Don't be afraid to argue about something.
Or to ask a question.
Or to learn.
To appear ignorant.
You know, there's just so much to get out of all these situations.
And I got a lot out of hanging out with people that I would not ordinarily hang out with.
You know, if we pull into our little shells and never venture out.
And just sort of hang out with the people that we agree with all the time.
Well, we're never going to reach anybody outside that little shell.
And we're also going to kid ourselves about the rest of the world.
And what it's all about.
Well, I wonder if I could be a preacher, you know.
I feel like I'm leading a sermon here.
I didn't mean to do that.
But anyway, that's part of what Miami was like.
Neat place, you know.
If you go down to Miami Beach or Miami or really any place, don't be a tourist.
You know, I try never to be a tourist wherever I am.
I try to get involved with the things that are going on.
To hang out with the real people there.
And not, you know, get taken in with all these touristy things.
You know, buses and sightseeing and all that kind of thing.
The best sightseeing you can possibly engage in is the kind you do on your own two feet.
And I'll tell you a little more about what I did on my own two feet.
Perhaps a little bit later.
But, you know, one thing I think is the most important of all the things we can experience.
That's music.
Like, you know, if you just turn on the radio and flip through the dial and go to all the different stations.
Stations like BAI and all kinds of other things that are out there.
You'll come across different sounds.
You know, and new ideas.
And that's what I did in Miami.
It's what I do in New York.
And I heard all kinds of neat music.
You know, Spanish music and Nicaraguan.
Even some Panamanian music.
We'll get into that perhaps a little bit later.
And soca.
I love soca music from Trinidad and Tobago.
So this kind of music is all over the dial on Miami and should be all over the dial here too.
This is a guy called Crazy.
The song's called Carolyn.
And this is WBAI New York.
Emmanuel Goldstein here.
Car rolling, arguing with the man in the party last night.
Oh, oh.
He want to go, but he want to stay.
Hold his hand and shout out.
No way.
I have something to tell you.
I have something to say.
I have something to tell you.
Listen, everybody, I said
Tonight, we ain't going home
Tonight, we ain't going home
Tonight, we ain't going home
Tonight, we ain't going home
We come to play, a play, a play
Tonight, we ain't going home
Tonight, we ain't going home
Tonight, we ain't going home
We come to play, a play, a play
Car rolling, start to win
If you see how she's shaking, she's dead
He holds she so, man it's time to go
Pull her way and she starts shouting
No!
I have something to tell you
I have something to say
I have something to tell you
Listen every word I say
Tonight we ain't going home
Tonight we ain't going home
Tonight we ain't going home
We gotta go there and come there
Tonight we ain't going home
Tonight we ain't going home
Tonight we ain't going home
Tonight we ain't going home
Tonight we ain't going home
Thank you.
From time to time, we have special guests drop in.
Today we have Mr. Roger.
Yes, that's right.
And you're here to discuss certain inequities in the American justice system
as discrimination towards people of your caliber.
That's right.
Now, Mr.
That's...
Oh, it's...
Yes.
I'm sorry.
That's okay.
I guess many of our listeners are wondering how a man like you got a name like yours.
Well, I figured you'd probably ask me that question, Mike.
Nearly everybody I ran into asked me that question.
I guess it's just because they don't know of people with names like mine,
but I'd like to assure the people that we do exist.
Do you?
Yes.
Well, where did you come from?
Okay.
Well, my family is of Monrovian descent.
The family tree has been traced all the way back to Pierre and Edna.
And that was back in the medieval days.
Mm-hmm.
I see.
And are there many of the family left today?
Well, it's nothing like it used to be, but in the metropolitan area alone,
I believe there are still three members of their clan.
And that would be if I have my figures.
Let me just check here.
Yes.
Joshua of Long Beach.
Mm-hmm.
Tony from Floral Park.
And there's one more I don't have here.
She lives in Canarsie.
Let me just think a second.
Oh, yes.
That's Cecilia.
Oh, Gesundheit.
Excuse me?
Didn't you just cough?
Oh, no, no.
That's her name, you see.
She got married, and she wanted to keep her maiden name.
So she combined the two, you see.
No, no.
You're thinking of a family in Columbus, Ohio.
We have nothing to do with them.
Oh, so you're not related.
No, no, not at all.
But you're familiar with them, though.
Yes.
Well, we do try to keep track of one another.
Let me get right to the point of this whole thing.
According to the information I have here,
you asked to be a guest on this program
so that you could speak out against the injustices
which a family such as the Oom family
must cope with from day to day.
Yes, that's right.
Oh, and before we go any further,
could you just explain to us
what those injustices might be?
Oh, I'd be glad to.
For one thing, the state of New York
will not give a driver's license
to either myself or my wife.
Mrs. What's her first name?
Her first name is Judith.
Judith, hmm.
Yes.
Okay.
The clerk at the office said that our last name was,
and this is a quote,
ridiculous.
Really?
Yeah, and in addition...
I wonder what her name was.
In addition, I can't get a library card.
My kids are unable to register for school
and I can't even get a listing in the telephone book.
I see, I see.
And we've just about had it up to here.
Oh, well, of course I realize
what a terrible inconvenience this must be
towards people like you.
But at the same time,
I can see how a name like yours
kind of goes against the grain of society.
It sounds like you're plotting
to overthrow the government or something.
How exactly do you plan on changing...
Let me assure you, Mike,
that people with names such as
are among the most conservative people in the country.
Really?
I voted for Ronald Reagan.
My wife did too.
My kids carry flags on their briefcases,
except they don't go to school
because the schools won't let them.
Uh, yeah, but you're planning on changing things here.
Well, being liberal in the fact that...
Well, it's time, Mike.
To get yourself accepted into society.
It's time for a change.
Because it's...
We have been literally hiding under rocks
for the past 200...
Since this nation has been founded,
we have been hiding.
You mean there have been...
Since then?
We've existed since the barbarian age,
before then even.
Since the time of Christ, I believe,
we've been around.
Well, how are you...
All over the place.
How are you just going to get...
about getting things changed?
Well, lobbying, I feel,
is the most effective way.
It's really, I think, the only way,
especially in a country such as ours.
Now, what I've done is
I've organized a nationwide coalition of families
with central offices in Washington, D.C.
And we have quite a list.
I could go on for hours listing the families.
Yeah, it's really staggering.
I see.
A lot of common names,
which most people probably wouldn't even think of as common,
are...
Yes, yes.
In fact, my neighbor's name is...
Oh, then you do know people.
A few.
A few.
But he's rather reclusive, though.
Lots of times, some of us tend to be like that,
and it's really a shame
because we can be the most diverse people in this country,
one of the most diverse groups anyway.
Do you find you have common interests,
or do you share interests with any of the general populace?
Well, we like the same things they like.
We like to watch tennis on television.
You go to baseball games?
Baseball games we go to.
What's your favorite team?
My favorite team is the Cincinnati Reds, in fact,
and they're also, I might add,
the oldest team in the baseball leagues.
Are there any baseball players with these funny names?
I believe there are some in the minor leagues.
Now, you may think that the reason they haven't advanced
is because their name provides a handicap to them.
Let me tell you something, Mike.
Or do they change their names?
Some people do change their names.
I really can't vouch for that at all.
But the name in no way is an indication
of the ability of the player
or the ability of the average person.
People with names like ours
have gone on to invent incredible things.
Really?
Really?
The plaster wall, for instance,
was invented by a Sam...
And that was, I believe, in 1857.
No, I have to check on that, though.
We can look that up in our almanac.
Okay, you can do that, then.
We have contributed to this society
just as much as any other group,
and I think in this time,
when everyone's demanding their rights,
it's just about time for us to do the same thing,
in a peaceful way, of course.
But, I mean, of all the groups,
I think we've been put upon the most.
Mm-hmm.
I want to say thank you
for giving me this opportunity to voice this,
and no one else does.
I've tried to get interviews with Eyewitness News
and all sorts of things.
The cable news network wouldn't even let me on.
You know the kind of weirdos they have.
Yeah.
Tom Snyder.
Tom Snyder laughed at me for three minutes on the phone.
I lost my dime.
It was unbelievable.
But I have to say, I'm glad that there is a radio station...
Well, now, before you go, I have one last question.
Yeah, you consider yourself a minority in American society.
About how many of you are there?
Well, it's hard to say, really,
because if you go around and ask people names like that,
they'll usually, as we mentioned before,
will come up with a phony name,
only because they don't like to start having people laugh at you.
Uh-huh.
It's kind of tragic.
People are hiding their true identities.
So it's somewhat of a silent majority.
A very silent majority.
They don't say a word lots of times.
They just become total recluses.
I see.
And I'm trying to bring them out.
And hopefully...
Well, you can unite.
We can unite.
We can put people in the Senate.
Great.
There's a very strong candidate right now.
His name is Walter.
Walter.
Well, that's close enough.
That's another problem.
People have got to start learning to pronounce our names correctly.
I can give you some pointers on that after.
Okay.
But he is a very...
He's a Republican.
He's a strong contender.
And I think by the year, oh, 1992,
he will be a strong candidate.
And by that time, certainly people will have heard of us.
Great.
Okay.
Well, thank you, Mr.
Mm.
Thank you.
Mr.
Thank you, Mike, and...
And Dave.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you.
He won it in the war
In 1944
Over on me
And a medal to lose
In orange, red, and blue
He found it in the zoo
He was killing only really sad for me
Dear old, dear old, dear old, dear old, dear old
Mrs. Clay
You must be proud of him
Mrs. Clay
Another drop of tin
guitar solo
I'm better in the frame
It's never been the same
No one needs to blame
Corporal Clay
Received his mettle in the dream
From a majesty of the beam
His boots were very deep
Mrs. Clay
You must be proud of him
Mrs. Clay
Another drop of tin
guitar solo
2-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And that will give you an idea of what you're in for if you keep listening to this radio program.
All kinds of strange and bizarre sounds will head in your direction.
Again, the name of this program is The Fifth Corner.
I'm Emmanuel Goldstein, not Citizen Kafka.
Citizen Kafka has moved to Tuesday mornings, effective last Tuesday.
So if you didn't know that, you've already missed one of his programs.
So I suggest you rearrange your sleeping patterns so that you can catch the new morning program.
That's from 6 to 9.30 on Tuesdays.
And I'll be here Thursday nights for an indefinite period is what I'm told.
So that's the longest I've had a show here to this date.
Anyway, usually it's just, you know, one week, two weeks, three weeks, but an indefinite period.
There's promise in that.
Anyway, you'll be hearing all kinds of mixtures of the kind of programs I've done in the past.
If you've listened to Off the Hook, which is the program about telephones and computer hackers and that kind of thing,
there'll be a little bit of that in this show.
So there'll be a little bit of News of the World, which is the program that brings you all kinds of news reports and documentaries and things from other countries.
In fact, we'll have something from Radio Moscow in just a few minutes.
And, of course, we also do phone-ins too.
So we'll be taking calls during this program at various points.
Because, I can't say, you know, exactly when we're going to be doing it because, as I said before, such a short period of time, an hour and 15 minutes, just shoots by like a comet or something.
And since I like playing different kinds of music too, it's really got to sort of cram it in there.
But speaking of computers and things like that, I've been working with a new one recently.
You, again, I won't say the brand name, but it's one of these ones that can do all kinds of neat desktop publishing applications, which is the reason I got it for the magazine I put out for computer hackers.
But it can also, and this is its curse, I think, in addition to doing the desktop publishing, it can also do amazing video games, you know, like the Space Invader kind of thing.
Where you shoot these little aliens that are coming at you, and I'll just have a whole lot of fun.
And I've been sort of falling into that trap night after night, you know, and I've been getting better and better at it too, so it lasts for longer periods of time every night.
And I don't know where it's going to end up.
You know, either I'm going to be in the beach.
And you can find quite a few of them in the streets of New York.
But nowhere did I see so many of them.
Nowhere did I see no choice where you had to use one of these customer-owned payphones.
And while walking through the streets in Miami, I sort of made up a rule, you know, something that I would stick to from here on in.
And that's this.
If you pick up a payphone, and it does not allow you access to any other long-distance companies except the one that it has chosen for you,
then that is what I call a Cusescu payphone.
What do I mean by that?
I mean a phone that allows you no choice.
A phone that cuts you off from the rest of the world and only allows you one view, one way in, or one way out, or whatever.
And there's a very easy way to test this, folks.
And you might want to get a pen and paper ready for this.
Because this is something I would like people to do.
I like people throughout the course of their lives, throughout their everyday routines,
when you see a payphone.
And some of these payphones look amazingly like the real ones.
But they're not.
You know, they look just the same, but they're not.
And that tells you something, too, about the ethics of the people behind the thing,
if they're trying to make you think it's something that it's not.
Every one of these payphones should allow you to make a choice.
To pay for the call in whatever way you want to pay for it.
And if they don't allow you to make that choice,
then obviously they're trying to rip you off.
Because they're not giving you the option to bill the call the way you want to bill your call.
Even if they're not ripping you off, not giving you a choice is...
Well, it's downright un-American, I think.
There. I've said it.
Okay. Everyone got their pen and paper ready.
What you do is you go up to a payphone, any payphone,
and you dial the following digits.
And I'll give you three sets of digits, actually.
That way you can...
Any one of these three, you can dial.
102-880.
I'll repeat that.
102-880.
What that is doing is giving you the carrier access code for AT&T,
which is 102-88.
And then the zero is what connects you to an operator.
Now, if you dial that from any payphone,
and it goes through,
and you hear that cheerful operator saying AT&T,
you've just completed an equal access call to AT&T.
Now, so I don't get accused of showing preference to AT&T,
I'll give you two other ones.
102-2-2-0 will connect you to the MCI operator.
103-3-3-0 will connect you to the Sprint operator.
Oh, I'll give you another one.
104-4-4-0 will connect you to the AllNet operator.
And there's others, too.
You just have to look for them.
So, if that works, fine and dandy.
You've got a great phone.
You can route the call any way you want and pay for it.
You know, however, you have the choice.
You have the freedom to do something like that.
And the power of technology is in the consumer's hands.
It's a wonderful concept,
sort of the backbone to democracy, you might say.
If, however, you get one of those synthesized voices saying,
this is an invalid number,
or you have no right to make this call,
or how dare you even try to do this,
or, you know, deposit $50 to make this call,
or anything like that.
This is what I want you folks to do.
I want you to leave that phone off the hook.
No pun intended.
Leave the phone off the hook
and walk away.
And tell everybody about that phone.
Say, that phone is a bad phone.
And don't make any calls to that phone,
and don't let any of your friends make calls to that phone,
because it's a rip-off.
All over Miami Beach last week,
reports came in of pay phones off the hook.
One man was responsible.
And I felt good about it, too, you know.
But you'll find it in places where people don't know any better.
You know, where people are expected to just sort of shell out money
and not think about what they're paying for.
But this very simple premise, you know,
if those numbers work,
then they're not ripping you off.
If those numbers don't work,
then they are ripping you off.
And if you have further questions about that,
feel free to write in to WBAI.
And while I can't promise that I'll respond very quickly,
I'll try, you know.
The address is WBAI,
505 8th Avenue, New York, New York,
10018.
And we're also having a
computer hacker meeting tomorrow,
so if folks want to come to that
and meet some of the people
that understand all this stuff.
It might be fun.
It might not be fun.
I don't know.
But we have meetings every first Friday,
first Friday of the month
at the City Court building
in the lobby
where all the strange people hang out.
And the hours are from about 5 o'clock
to about 8 o'clock.
That's going to happen tomorrow.
The 2,600 computer hacker people
but that's another side to this whole thing.
There's all kinds of different things
we'll be tackling throughout this radio program.
We're going to get into the Radio Moscow bit
in just a minute.
But should we get into that now?
I'd like to talk about Panama a little bit
because that's also been, you know,
all these things have been happening so fast.
I mean, Panama and Romania at the same time
is more than most people could handle.
But Panama, I tell you,
it's incredible how the media has forgotten
and how most people have forgotten
that, you know,
a very basic thing has been violated here.
Yeah, okay.
We've got Noriega and Miami.
Too bad I wasn't down there for that.
That would have been fun.
But, and I must admit,
I'll say this openly,
I never expected Noriega
to make it to this country alive.
I never expected him
to actually make it to Miami.
That's a complete surprise to me
and just further proof
that we're moving
on uncharted territory here.
But think of what we've done.
I mean, yes,
we, us,
our country,
that's what it's supposed to be, right?
We've invaded another country again.
And I was listening to African Kaleidoscope before
and I heard the amazing fact
that the United States
invaded other countries
133 times before
the Soviet Union even existed.
And I don't even know what the number is now.
But the fact that we just keep marching in
to impose our will,
you know,
it's a frightening kind of thing
to even imagine.
Yet we keep doing it.
Grenada
and Vietnam
and just Haiti.
Did we do Haiti?
Or Dominican Republic.
All these countries.
I mean, we could do any country
in Central America virtually.
And most American people,
most of the media
would simply shrug it off
and say,
it's justified.
I just don't understand
how one drug baron,
alleged drug baron,
is enough cause
to bring in 26,000 troops,
you know?
It's just incredible.
And you have to
extend that logic
and say,
okay, well,
let's say that
Ortega is a criminal.
Okay, let's just
assume that for some reason.
And I'm sure
that Bush would be
very happy to
plead that case to us.
What's the difference?
Why can't we invade Nicaragua then?
Why can't we invade
any country we want?
South of our border.
And then once you
answer that question
and say,
you know,
okay, we can invade
any country
south of our border,
what do you have then,
you know?
What kind of a country
do you have?
That's what bothers me.
I've been walking around
the last couple of weeks
saying to myself,
you know,
if this kind of action
was done by another country,
I'd be looking for ways
to boycott that country
and just not have anything
to do with them.
I mean,
I felt that way
when the Soviets
invaded Afghanistan
and after Tiananmen Square
and with the South Africans.
But the question I have
is how do you boycott
is that your own country?
I don't know.
It's a very troubling thing for me.
I just wish, though,
that there was a bit more
even-handed coverage
of this whole thing
because the way
it's been portrayed
from the beginning,
like on cable news network
and throughout all
the newspapers.
I'll say one exception.
Newsday seems to have
come out pretty much
pretty consistently
against this invasion.
They're the only paper
I know that's printed
editorials saying that,
you know,
perhaps we're violating
some very fundamental
rules here.
But the majority
are simply going,
you know,
gung-ho into this.
Not questioning enough.
You know,
you have to ask questions.
Yeah, a lot of people
won't like you
when you ask questions.
A lot of people
will think that you're
a subversive or communist.
Explain to me,
how can you be a communist
when the guy
that we're ousting
is a rightist dictator?
Why would a communist,
of all things,
support a rightist dictator?
It's, uh...
You know,
when people call you
names like that
it's because they
can't think of any argument.
I'd much rather
be met with an argument
than some kind of
blanket name
that's thrown at me.
But all the networks
and cable news network too
are guilty of this,
of just not reporting
the story
in a balanced way.
You know,
I saw this, uh...
this graphic
the following day,
the day after
we invaded.
And the graphic was
U.S. hostages
in Panama.
Of course there's
U.S. hostages
in Panama.
We invaded the country.
And certain people
are going to react
to that.
Shouldn't that be
the headline?
U.S. invades
tiny country?
Not U.S. hostages
in tiny country
that the U.S. invaded.
It's all so ludicrous
and crazy.
And then,
another thing too,
with all this
Romanian thing
going on
at the same time,
I guess,
you know,
their imaginations
were roaming
a bit wild.
At one point,
Bush said,
you know,
it's okay,
Soviets over there,
if you want to go
into Romania,
go right ahead.
You know,
we won't be upset.
Go right ahead
and invade them,
you know.
We'll invade
our countries
over here.
You can invade
your countries
over there.
Everybody will
be happy.
Well,
cable news network
somehow extended
that a bit
and said,
well,
would we be willing
to help out
the Romanian
resistance
ourselves?
They sort of
took that
to mean
that we would
be willing
to send in
our own troops
into Romania.
And then,
they went into
this big poll
that they did
with American people
saying,
well,
40% of the
American people
support sending
troops into Romania
and all of a sudden
it becomes an issue.
We're sending troops
into Romania?
What?
What's going on here?
It's unbelievable.
So,
I was very discouraged
with the way
mainstream media
covered this
and hopefully
there'll be
some kind of
backlash,
but I haven't
seen it yet.
I mean,
the only place
I've seen it
is here in
Pacifica,
WBAI.
NPR is,
ooh,
they've done
an abysmal job
as far as I'm
concerned.
Abysmal?
I mean,
I don't even
want to get
into this.
No questioning,
no,
no real issues
brought up,
just acceptance
of something.
And again,
it comes down
to a basic,
a basic
fundamental thing.
We invaded
another country.
We took someone
out of that country
to face trial here.
Why?
I don't understand
that.
Did he just sell
drugs to our
country?
Could any
country have
the right to
go in and
take him and
try him?
Could somebody
say that
President Bush
is a criminal
and take him
away?
I mean,
what international
laws are we
following?
Not many,
I don't think.
But the real
culprits are,
as I said,
the media,
because that's
the only way to
get the word
out to people.
And the only way
to figure out
what words
you're going to
print and what
words you're going
to send over TV
and radio is to
ask a lot of
questions.
They just have
not been asking
a lot of
questions.
And most
people just go
around saying
they wouldn't
print it if it
wasn't true.
Right?
mother doesn't go
out anymore.
Just sits at home
and rolls her
spastic eyes.
But every weekend
through the door.
Come words of
wisdom from
the world
outside.
If you want
to know about
a bishop and
an actress.
If you want
to know how
to be a star.
If you want
to know about
the stains
on the mattress.
You can read
it in the
Sunday papers.
Sunday papers.
Mother's
wheelchair stays
out in the
hall.
Why should she
go out when
the TV's on?
Whatever moves
beyond these
walls.
She'll know the
facts when Sunday
comes along.
If you want to
know about the
mad punk rockers.
If you want
to know how
to play
guitar.
If you want
to know about
any other
suckers.
You can read
it in the
Sunday papers.
Read it in the
Sunday papers.
Well that's Joe
Jackson off his
first album.
Sunday papers.
Really good
song.
I wish we
could play
the rest of
it but as I
said before we
just don't have
enough time.
We're running
out of time.
And I want to
play the New
Year's Greetings
from Radio
Moscow that I
just got in the
mail only two
days ago.
And in future
weeks we'll be
playing Moscow
Mailbag which is
a lot of fun.
In fact you
folks can send
your questions to
Moscow Mailbag.
Radio Moscow.
Moscow the
Soviet Union.
That's the whole
address.
I'm not kidding.
And say that
you heard it here
on WBAI and
then we'll get
even more
programs and
more tapes and
things like that.
And you'll hear
your question on
our airwaves.
And if you have
a shortwave radio
you'll hear it on
Radio Moscow's
airwaves as well.
Anyway we're
going to listen
to the New
Year Greetings
from Radio
Moscow and that's
going to take us
pretty much to the
end of our show.
So let's get
right to it.
From the
studios of
Radio Moscow
this is a
special program
to all our
listeners in
North America.
With me at the
microphone is
Carl Yegorov
and I'm Nikolai
Kornikov and
from our entire
staff the
North American
Service of Radio
Moscow we wish
you all the
best season's
greetings.
And we want
you to have a
very happy and
peaceful 1990 to
all of you.
And speaking of a
very peaceful
1990 why don't
Carl how about
putting it into
music.
Try to get the
people into the
mood.
Well let's try
Nick.
Okay.
We're not
professional singers.
Don't say that.
Don't say that.
No we ain't.
Anyways Olga.
Olga our music
editor is here at
the piano.
She's going to
help us.
Olga can we
start the first
song.
Silent night
Holy night
All is calm
All is bright
round yon
virgin
mother and
child
Holy infant
so tender
and mild
Sleep in
heavenly
peace
We got
through that
aura.
Well that's
what we usually
start out our
parties with when
we get together.
We also celebrate
Christmas and we
have a lot of
people here at
Radio Moscow who
have been abroad
lived abroad for a
long time.
That's including us
too.
That's right.
You come from
New York?
Yes I come from
New York.
That was a long
long time ago
back in 1943.
And how was it?
How did you get
here Nick?
Well that was
during the war.
Yeah that was
during the war.
Make it short.
Well to put it in
two words my
mother and father
were Russians.
They were patriots
when the war
started they wanted
me to help out
in the Red Army
so they sent me
over here pulled
some strings and
I got here and I
fought with the Red
Army right up to
the end of the war.
And you were in
the cavalry?
That's right.
That's right.
And you have
one of the
orders of glory
which is a very
high distinction.
I know that.
Okay thanks.
By the way I got
into the cavalry
because I was
with horses all
my life.
My father with
two other Russians
they had a very
good riding school
in New York.
It was called
the Boots and
Saddles School
of Riding on
East 91st Street
in New York.
And how old
were you then?
You took part
in that too?
Oh yeah sure.
I was riding
ever since I was
a little kid.
I mean I began
walking, riding
and swimming
about the same
time.
And that's why
you got bold
eggs.
Okay you come
from Canada.
Why don't you
tell us how
you got here?
Well like you
Nick my parents
are of Russian
origin and they
emigrated to
Canada way back
in 1927.
What was
partly what was
Poland at that
time now it's
the western Ukraine.
I have a brother
and we were born
and brought up in
Canada born in
Winnipeg.
I'm sorry your
brother couldn't
be here today.
He would have
been a nice
third voice.
He couldn't.
He couldn't make
it.
He also works at
the radio.
And his name
is George.
And well
anyways we like
I said we were
born and brought
up in Winnipeg
and then after
that we moved
to the farm up
in the north
Bozeman River
in Manitoba.
And you remember
one of the songs
that we used to
sing way back
then?
You know I
never doubted
that you'd get
around to that
old song.
Well let's give
it a crack.
Okay.
Old MacDonald
had a farm
E-I-E-I-O
And on this
farm he had
a cow
E-I-E-I-O
With a moo moo
here and a moo moo
there
Here moo there
Moo everywhere
Moo moo
Old MacDonald
had a farm
E-I-E-I-O
And on this
farm he had
a dog
E-I-E-I-O
With a bow wow
here and a bow
wow there
Here moo there
Moo there
Moo there
Moo everywhere
Moo moo
Old MacDonald
had a farm
E-I-E-I-O
And on this
farm he had
a chick
E-I-E-I-O
With a chick chick
here and a chick chick
there
And a chick there
Chick everywhere
Chick chick
A bow wow here
And a bow wow there
Here bow there
Bow there
We're a bow wow
Moo moo here
Moo moo there
Here moo there
Moo everywhere
Moo moo
Old MacDonald
had a farm
E-I-E-I-O
E-I-E-I-O
Broughty
Big Mane
France
Down the whole
line of animals
that he had
Thank God we
didn't go through
that whole line
of animals
We'd be here
till late at
night
Especially on
your farm
You had a lot
of animals
Oh yes
Yeah we had
We had horses
Two horses
My father really
liked them
One was called
Baldy
The other one
was Ned
And we had dogs
and all the
domestic animals
Poultry
Carl let's get
back to the
season
that we're talking
about
You know we
used to have
some
I'm talking to
the audience
now we used
to have some
great Christmas
parties at
Carl's place
here in Moscow
Yes at the old
place
I remember the
first party we
had that was
somewhere back
in 1967
or 66
somewhere around
there
Quite some time
ago
And about
2 o'clock
in the morning
I think we
were all
We weren't
feeling any pain
We weren't
feeling any pain
and we come
out and he
lived right
you lived right
in the center
of town
Yeah right
Right opposite
the central
committee
and the KGB
headquarters
In between
them
And we came
out to take
a walk
It was very
cold
Minus 25
Minus 30
Centigrade
Yeah somewhere
around there
it was sort
of a
Well we needed
a breather
anyway
And how we
did
and there
was a
there's a
big monument
It still
stands there
It still
stands there
And you
and I
Carl
stood up
on that
monument
on the
pedestal
And we
sang
We sang
Holy Night
Silent Night
Silent Night
And from
way down
below somewhere
a police
squad car
started crawling
up
gradually
I remember
that
Went around
us
took a look
at us
Took a look
at us
And went away
And we
didn't do
anything
We didn't
know
We had a
terrific
song
So let's
try that
once again
Okay
Silent
night
Holy
night
All is
calm
All is
bright
night
Rock
young
virgin
Mother
and
child
Holy
infant
so tender
and mild
Sleep
in heavenly
peace
Sleep
Sleep
in heavenly
peace
Just like
20 years
ago
I love
that music
It's beautiful
It always
takes me
way way
back to
my childhood
I remember
Well we do
too
All these
Christmas songs
Jingle bells
and decked
the halls
with boughs
of holly
and all
of them
Everything
The whole
list
We had
a terrific
time
At those
Christmas
parties
You had
a nice
fireplace
burning
there
I remember
We had
a fireplace
We wouldn't
turn on
the electric
lights
Everything
was just
the candles
and
well
mistletoe
I remember
we used to
stand there
and wait
until the
girls
come in
and then
they wouldn't
know that
the mistletoe
Nobody around
here knew
anything about
mistletoe
Yeah but
we taught
them
We taught
them
Whether we
had some
or whether
we didn't
have not
any
Well we've
been here
at the radio
Nick you've
been here
I've been
here at the
radio since
1951
38 years
Well I've
been here
a little bit
less
I've been
here since
59
You haven't
been back
to Canada
yet
No I
haven't
but you
have been
to the
States
Yes I
went back
Could you
recall in a
couple words
Sure I
was back
there
last year
in August
and regretfully
I got there
at the height
of a fantastic
heat wave
You just
couldn't walk
around New York
And what did
you do
to get out
of the heat wave
Well mostly
eating hamburgers
and McDonald's
Is that right?
No but it
was very hot
very hot
I mean all
the trains
and everything
there air
conditioned
Did you
notice any
changes in
those years
that you
haven't been
there?
To say
that I
noticed
changes
is putting
it mildly
because
Well did
you recognize
New York?
Oh no
New York
New York
is New York
I love it
It's a
vibrant
living city
but of course
the colors
the smells
the sounds
a lot
was different
At first
I was a
matter of fact
I was a bit
lost
Then I got
onto it
and all right
I got around
I took the
A train
and everything
else
By the way
Carl
you've been
doing hockey
announcing here
during the
Izvesta tournament
haven't you?
Yes
I'm doing
that right now
at the time
of this
recording
We are
now in
the midst
of the
23rd
International
Ice Hockey
Tournament
for the
Izvesta Prize
Okay
you asked
for it
Who do
you think
is going
to win?
Well
there's still
a lot
of games
to be
played
although
well
I'll tell
you quite
honestly
the way
the Soviets
have four
points
Canada
has three
Czechoslovakia
has three
but all
the big
games
between
them
are coming
I'll stick
my neck
out
Go ahead
Team Canada
number one
USSR
number two
Czechoslovakia
three
but what
I want
to say
is that
the
organizer
of this
tournament
Boris
Fedosev
unexpected
sports
commentator
he's the
one that
organized
the
whole
tournament
23
years
ago
and
he
passed
away
at the
end of
October
and
now
a very
good
friend
of ours
in
Winnipeg
that's
your
hometown
my hometown
Mr. George
Smith
has
made
a trophy
a trophy
Boris
Fedosev
trophy
and
his son
is bringing
it up
to Moscow
what is it
about a foot
high
it's 13
inches high
made of
stainless steel
and nickel
plated
on an oak
base
it's a
figure
of a
snowman
yes
snigovic
or the
snowman
and it's
going to
go to
the team
to the
winning team
every year
every year
they keep it
for a year
and then they
bring it
back for the
next tournament
I think that
this is very
a good gesture
to honor the
memory of
Boris Fedosev
you're being
martyred
Carl
that was
your idea
and let's
say a big
thanks to
George
Smith
that's what
I want to
say
Nick
Mr.
George
Smith
if you're
listening to
this program
or anyone
who is
listening to
this program
and knows
Mr.
George
Smith
in Winnipeg
Manitoba
Canada
a great
big thank
you for
all ice
hockey fans
in the
USSR
for this
very wonderful
gesture
because
we could
feel that
it's coming
straight from
the bottom
of your heart
and this
is what
it's all
about
the season's
greetings
fine
Carl
how about
as long
as it's
season's
greetings
let's go
and let's
end the
program
end this
little talk
of recollections
with Auld Lang Syne
well let's try
should old acquaintance
be for God
and never brought
to mind
should old acquaintance
be forgot
and days
of Auld Lang Syne
for Auld Lang Syne
my dear
for Auld Lang Syne
we'll take
we'll take
we'll take
a cup
of kindness
yet
for Auld Lang Syne
once again
the very warmest
season
greetings
from
to all our
listeners
in North America
Canada
and the United
States
from Carl
Yegorov
and myself
Nikolai Kornikov
thank you
Olga
for helping
us at the
piano
Olga
Fyodorov
our music
editor
thank you
very much
love
and that'll
give you a
taste of
some of the
things we
have in store
for us
here on the
fifth corner
this is
Emmanuel Goldstein
I'll see you
next week
and who knows
what we'll
be playing
then
all kinds
of neat
fun things
stay tuned
for Bob Fass
good night
that program
was compiled
at the
studios of
Radio Moscow
this is WBAI
in New York
City
piles
of programs
like that
I guess
exist at
the studios
of Radio Moscow
there are
certainly piles
of radio
programs
in the
halls
here at
WBAI
that are
even more
achingly
nostalgic
I'm sure
there are
boxes
and boxes
and boxes
and yet
more
boxes
full of
tapes
of old
archive
programs
that
have been
retrieved
from storage
so that
this marathon
can
parade
the glorious
history
of this
bastion
of free
expression
between
your ears
this is
Bob Fass
I think
this is
called
either
primary
sources
or
secondary
sources
or tertiary
or triage
I don't know
what it's called
actually
but I'm here
and you're
there
and maybe
we'll play
some records
and maybe
we'll talk
baby
your mind
is a radio
kind of
receiver
inside my head
baby
I'm true
to your
wave
man
let me
tell you
it's