said embassy officials told him they would not grant the visa quote for political reasons
joanna roberts reports about nine and a half years what was it like when you first moved in
terrible terrible it was a disaster give it all to rose and we stopped moving when she took over
and now we finally made it for wbai news i'm julie kellen
and that's some of the news for thursday march 29th 1990 the news was engineered by dred scott keys
it was produced with jenny bourne julie cohen tom decay and joanna roberts i'm amy goodman in new
york with tara seiler in washington for wbai listener supported news
and this is emmanuel goldstein very good evening to you it's 11 46 and the program is the fifth
quarter and tonight tonight we're going to be demonstrating once again the power of radio
and in fact i've just demonstrated to myself uh the power of the record button i hit the wrong
record button i was going to record this program and i accidentally started erasing over one of the
tapes that i was going to play so we're going to join the tape that i was going to play in progress
as i have destroyed the first minute of it uh which i suppose is all right since it's only about two
minutes long anyway and then we'll be back with all kinds of interesting things here on listener
supporter radio wbai must take into account the security interests of other countries and should
happen concurrently with an overall process of european cooperation as all other changes in europe
it must be accompanied by consolidating peace and stability in the continent that's where a general
agreement may well be likened to a consensus incidentally president gorbachev and mr bush at the
malta summit had both agreed that utmost restraint and caution must be shown for all changes in europe
to develop on the basis of the helsinki principles including respect for the existing realities and
inviolability of post-war frontiers the position is widely shared both by the east and west the british
prime minister mrs margaret thatcher in last thursday interview with italian-based corriere della sera
raised hopes for german unification to take place with an account for the two alliances positions
and for the wishes of other countries including the soviet union but she said that shouldn't lead to
uncertainty or instability for the time being the overall european process of which german unification
is a part is making a headway one example is the arrival in moscow by president havel of czechoslovakia
for talks with the soviet leader michael garbachev the joint declaration they signed on monday says
from now on the two countries would cooperate on the basis of parity and mutual respect alone
an agreement was also signed on soviet troop withdrawals from czechoslovakia in a surprise
statement in u.s congress last week mr avil said if the u.s wanted to help eastern europe it's better do so
by helping the soviet union the superpower agreement on equal numbers of troops in central europe will
certainly go to benefit the continent as a whole other events however are causing worries statements
were reiterated during the recent visit to the united states by chancellor call of west germany
that a united germany must be a full member of the nato alliance but that would signal the upsetting of
the existing balance in europe the west german government has so far made no coherent statement
about the existing post-war frontiers which causes legitimate fears in neighboring countries in a recent
speech in warsaw the polish prime minister mr mazowiecki said the existing uncertainty about his country's
border with germany in the west was placing the need for continued presence of soviet troops in poland
although a number of discussions will certainly follow including the two plus four talks between
the wartime allies and two germanies and this year's planned 35-nation helsinki-style conference
some aspects of german unification must be made clear now this includes legal safeguards for the post-war
frontiers and continued parity by the two alliances in europe and there we end this edition of soviet
viewpoint it was prepared and recorded in the studios of radio moscow
and it sounds as if they're getting a bit tired over there well that's okay uh radio moscow and a
little viewpoint over there and uh it's 10 minutes to 12 o'clock this is emmanuel goldstein the program
is the fifth corner and um it's been a busy week if i if i sound kind of out of it tonight it's because
it's been one of those weeks where you just have to do 10 000 things and there's only so many hours
in a day and next saturday there'll be one hour less uh in fact uh on this particular program i'm
actually doing two things at once because um well i might as well tell you i have uh a part-time job
with a big organization and uh you may in fact have heard of them now a lot of us have been uh worrying
about the census well i don't know how many of us have actually been worrying about the census but
it's been kind of annoying to get that little form in the mail and you have to fill it out and
i think april 1st is the deadline and uh i i had my form and i looked at it and there were some
questions there i really wish they hadn't brought up but they did anyway and it's just a big moral
dilemma for me uh but that's that's something else it's only once every 10 years
but did you know that there is another census company or a corporation organization or what
have you in the united states at least there's at least one other uh it's kind of like uh what
happened to at&t uh one day many years ago it was decided that there should be competing census
organizations because well why should one organization have all the fun so there's the north american
census association i don't know how many people have actually heard of the north american census
association uh but that's what i've been spending my last few weeks working for uh and we're a whole
lot uh easier to get along with than this other census group that that most of you have probably gotten
nasty letters from i consider them nasty letters you know prying into your personal affairs such as
who are you what do you where do you live and that kind of thing it's that just strikes me the wrong
way you know so we're a lot more friendly you don't get forms from us you don't uh have to answer
these questions we ask you to do it in a very simple manner we ask you to fill out your own forms
make up your own forms you can do it in any way you want and we're really only interested in two things
your first name and your height those are the only two things that the north american census association
is interested in really we don't care about anything else so i've been tearing my hair out this last
couple of weeks three weeks actually uh working for them collating all these forms that we get because
they are very hard to uh to read and the only thing that we ask is that people use a red felt tip pen
do not use a number two pencil do not use a ballpoint pen a red felt tip pen we have a advanced system
where that can only read that particular kind of of imprint so please use that when you decide to send
in your form and you can send in your form anytime you know you don't have to send it by the first you
can send it you know two weeks from now you can say you can send it a month from now all right just
get around to it at some point and uh we won't bother you with details as far as uh the address or
you know what what you have to say on the form or anything like that we want your individuality to
show we want to know who you are not who you are but who you are you know we want your personality
to show in that form that's why we ask people to write their own forms make up their own forms and
just tell us whatever you want to tell us we just need your first name and your height that's really
the only thing that that really matters to us okay so that that explains kind of why i'm uh in a bit
of a tizzy tonight uh also it's going to explain why i have to do what i have to do now you see there's
also an extra added thing that uh the north american census association does that uh those other
census people well don't bother to do and uh i kind of don't understand why that is but there's
an awful lot of americans in other parts of the world you know and we're constantly trying to find
out where they are and who they are so we're going to go to japan well we're not going to japan we're
going to call japan and uh yes uh hello is this japan yes uh yes i'm calling from the north american
census association uh can you hear me yes i can hear you very well okay this is mr goldstein from
the north american census association we're trying to find out how many american operators you have
working over there uh all operators are japanese all operators are japanese yes you're certain as to
that fact there are no american operators hiding around there no okay do you have any american postal
clerks no no american postal clerks okay how about american secretaries american uh um supervisors anything
like that no no american is working at uh this company now okay fine we'll just write that down
and this is the japanese telecom i imagine is that correct this is kdd kdd that's the japanese telephone
company right yes okay and how long have americans not been working there for i'm sorry but this is uh
uh the circuit is only for japanese speaking people so would you oh so if i'm to continue
this conversation i must do so in japanese is what you're saying i'm sorry okay well i i'll let you go
then and uh we'll we'll go to another country thank you very much for your help though you have a nice day
all right now that's what i have to do i have 103 more countries after that you know it's it's living hell
folks so while this next feature is on i'm going to be uh contacting a couple more countries and uh
i guess it pays the rent but uh it only happens once every 10 years but it's it's our patriotic duty
remember folks get those forms in okay write them out get them in and just figure it out don't bother
us with the details all right we're going to uh what should we go to should we go over there i guess we'll
go clear across the room and uh and pick up another recording a lot of you have questions a lot of you
have too many questions but uh we try to answer questions and we try to provide you with other
people that can answer questions now we just heard a confused person from moscow giving a commentary
and slowing down at the end and everything like that but this is a program designed specifically for
your questions and you can send in your questions you can send your questions straight to radio moscow
moscow the ussr and mention that you heard it on wbai and then we'll play the tape and then you'll hear
the tape on wbai and it'll be sort of like a uh a time warp of some sort so let's uh let's hear some
questions some answers and then we'll uh uh we'll get back to some more of whatever here on wbai new york
radio moscow presents moscow mailbag
hello and welcome to another edition of moscow mailbag which we'll start with a question from carol
murphy a 41 year old teacher who lives in markington west virginia what are some of the problems so a
teacher might have in the classroom what kind of discipline can they resort to whatever the
differences between the educational systems of our two countries some of the problems teachers
encounter in class are bound to be universal like a lack of discipline among students absenteeism
or poor performance in class students may attend private or public schools live under socialism or capitalism but throughout the world they are known for being bored with learning
what kind of discipline can a teacher resort to that partly depends on the age group you're dealing with
in primary school for example a reprimand in front of the whole class can bring the child in line
or if he or she is particularly naughty you might try talking with their parents who can provide you with
a clue as to how they manage their own kids personal contacts with each students are valuable giving a teacher
more of a chance to win the child over to her side regrettably these days teacher who can't control the
class seem to think they can solve their problems by losing their temper an understandable reaction but
hardly a justifiable one a teacher's lot with constant overtime work and not too generous wages is now a
poignant one the school reform that was started over four years ago and meant to make school a livelier
place both for the students and for the teachers after some feeble attempts at change ground to a halt
reasons for that are being examined like never before and one solution many people agree upon is that
strengthening discipline and improving performance can be achieved through increased motivation of the
students in their studies but in the absence of up-to-date schools curricula on many subjects and with the
inertia of school management the accomplishment of that task may take some fancy footwork our next
question comes from paul o'toole of nanaimo british columbia canada who writes the following
how does the tax system work in the soviet union on the face of it the tax system in this country
is sparing to private people and very demanding on industrial enterprises most of the money drawn from taxes
into the state budget comes from taxes on profits these enterprises make whereas the money individuals
pay amounts to only eight percent of the sum in the u.s for example the situation is quite the reverse
with the bulk of taxes coming out of the pockets of private citizens the present tax system in the
soviet union was drawn up some 50 years ago and has not been amended since to any substantial degree
at that time the difference between minimum and maximum wages and salaries was not big and so all
salaries and wages were taxed a fixed 13 percent of the sum if it exceeded 100 rubles the then average
earning besides childless couples in the soviet union and single men over 18 pay a special tax rather odd
for not having children the tax introduced by the government to stimulate population growth has
received a great deal of scathing criticism but is still there we also have taxes on privately owned cars
and home pets but the sums are insignificant authors fees are taxed to be it a publication of a book or a
musical composition all told taxes amount to some fifteen to eighteen percent of a person's earnings
that's on the average because for the poor the percentage although similar means a substantial chunk
of their incomes taken away from them the tax system is now reviewed towards greater differentiation
and flexibility and is meant to allow people in the lower income group to live above the subsistence
level by fixing the minimum level of wages and salaries which will not be taxed and at the same time
introducing progressive taxation for the well to do the draft law on taxes has already been put to a
nationwide discussion and is soon to be considered by the session of the country's supreme soviet
tom martins of raymond alta canada asks how long is the longest train ride in russia from where to where
does it go how long does it take do people take it as a vacation and one more question on the same
subject comes from mr powell of kitimat british columbia canada can tourists complete trips in the trans-siberian
railway i'd like to visit the ussr by rail the longest train ride in this country is one that goes from
moscow all the way to vladivostok a city in the far far east of the country a big port on the soviet
chinese border the rail crosses nine time zones and takes about six days to complete now to take
such a trip as a vacation you have to be absolutely crazy about trains just imagine six days and nights
in the same compartment with occasional raids into the restaurant or the nearest carriage pretty taxing
the scenery can perhaps make up for a lot but then remember that there's another six days to go back
as for the trans-siberian railway the ancient rails started late last century connecting moscow with
the city of khabarovsk which is up north from vladivostok yes the trains carry not only soviet but foreign
passengers as well and mr powell if you contact the in tourist office in canada that's the leading
foreign travel bureau in this country you'll get the tickets all right and i wish you a very nice trip
to siberia has a pretty nasty sound doesn't it okay here's a letter from laz lipson of long island
city new york who says the following perhaps you could clarify to me my confusion about the cardinal
principle of socialism that is from each according to his ability to each according to his worth through
the years of soviet rule the soviet union prided itself there was no unemployment everybody who sought
employment was guaranteed a job for life this was in contradiction to the capitalist rule which is
those willing to work may have an opportunity to be employed and thus earn possibly a living depending
on his or her bargaining power then wasn't a guarantee of permanent work in a socialist society
a critical violation of marxist principles whereby lagards were able to draw pay and thus undercut
production and cripple the economy that should have been vibrant and productive to abundantly supply
the needs of the soviet people does the soviet union now realize its violation of the vital marxist
principle well the answer is yes and no yes because the erroneous economic policy which brought the
country to the edges of an abyss wrote on the principles of paying money to whoever would be willing to
take up the job firing a lazy worker became a bit of a problem though it in no way meant that we had no
unemployment it's been creeping up on us for some time now a logical result of over centralized control
and poor planning today the army of unemployed numbers thousands and thousands of people but as
i've said the answer is also no because the task of introducing elements of the market system to make the
economy more efficient proved particularly ungrateful and cumbersome and while many people are prepared
to give according to their ability very few indeed can face up to the reality of being remunerated
according to their true worth hence firing lagards is still as hard as ever before and the old motto of
a job guarantee to everyone is winning new supporters by the thousand economists clash over ways to combine the
guarantee of a job one of the cornerstones of socialism with the need to introduce competition and put up
production meanwhile economic growth rates last year hit another record low old formulas don't work
while new ones have not yet been developed for our next question here is a letter from mr frank rodeo
junior of hammington new jersey what is the young communist league he asks it is in the definition
any westerner would be ready to give you a politicized youth organization rigidly controlled by the communist
party an estimate largely true but not the whole truth it is indeed a youth organization whose prime goal
from the time of its foundation has been the upbringing of the young people in the spirit of communism
and the ideals of the socialist revolution of 1917 in 1919 when the young communist league was formed
it rivaled with the remaining pre-revolutionary youth organizations like boy scouts but very
soon it was the only such organization a gigantic conglomerate uniting by now some 35 million people
the membership shrunk drastically over the last few years when the young communist league was revealed for
what it was a corrupt power structure for the few who ruled mostly senselessly an army of rank and file
members only to help their own careers the picture for all the gloom is in fact not so bad as over the
decades of its existence the young communist league or come some all as it is known in this country has done
a great deal to help many big-scale construction projects in this country grappled with the problem of
juvenile delinquency was the chief manager and overseer of many summer camps for smaller kids and is
still involved in a handful of useful activities it is also going through a period of doubt and wild
dissent among its members who often find a new freedom in a myriad of the so-called informal or
independent organization streaming the youth according to their interest in music the arts sports etc
i don't think come some all is going to disappear from the scene despite some gloomy forecasts that is
and even the talk of a change of a name it has a very well-developed hierarchy and organizational structure
and some very enthusiastic people in its ranks who are striving to see it re-geared toward a loftier cause
and in many ways it still retains the political weight and the authority as well as some financial muscle
here's another question from mr frank rodeo how many seats and houses does the ussr supreme soviet have
the current supreme soviet is formed according to a new system passed over a year ago general elections
were held last spring to form the congress of people's deputies the highest body of power it was only
the first stage toward electing the supreme soviet a rough equivalent of the american congress or british
parliament the supreme soviet was elected from among the twenty two hundred and fifty strong congress
to become the country's working parliament it has five hundred and forty two members equally divided
between the two chambers or houses the house of the union and the house of nationalities the former as
the name suggests rules on matters relating to the entire country whereas the house of nationalities
considers issues pertaining to the life of each particular republic now that we've been through two sessions of the supreme soviet
and two congresses of people's deputies it is becoming increasingly clear that their functions sometimes overlap
moreover the congress of people's deputies is a very cumbersome and costly structure that can with time
prove insupportable the two co-exist side by side but in the ongoing reform of political structures in this country
that may not be the final solution ms sd denor of medicine wisconsin writes a servant couple we met recently
claimed that lenin started the concentration camps for dissidents that later were shown as stalin's camps
they cited the sol of key islands as a camp that was established under lenin is that true can you tell
me the history and present situation of these islands yes the first camps or colonies for political
prisoners prisoners of conscience as well as criminals were set up in 1923 that's the time when vladimir lenin
was still alive though he was very ill and was practically removed from power the solovki islands
a string of islands in the white sea in the northwest of the country were indeed one of the first sites
for such a colony where the first prisoners arrived in the summer of 1923 including russian aristocrats
former government officials who ruled the country in czarist russia members of different political
parties and the clergy as well as an assortment of criminals and strange as it sounds some of the
officials from the soviet secret police who were no longer considered reliable or were convicted of on
trumped up charges the colony existed till 1939 in place of an old monastery and saw tens of thousands of
prisoners the exact number of all the inmates remains unclear to this day the rules regulating the life
inside the colony were auster prisoners served time in total isolation completely cut off from the outside
world worked 12-hour shifts and were required to maintain army discipline in a drive to reform the
convicts give vent to their creative talents and develop literary skills a literary magazine was published
that included verses poems and novels written by the prisoners dozens of editions of the magazine came out
but the idea was abandoned several years later the son of key islands now house a museum where an
exhibition opened late last year featuring the history of the labor camp to give people the idea
of what a terrible place it was someday who knows it may once again be handed back to the church the way
it used to be centuries ago and there let me in this edition of moscow mailbag it was prepared by
irena solopsova of our staff
well that was a bit of fun wasn't it that was uh folks over at radio moscow sent that over to us
and we actually got one from uh long island city there that might have been a bai listener that sent
that uh that particular uh oh busy it's all busy everything's busy
anyone care to guess how many busy signals we have here
tempo change
well enough of that anyway uh the program is the fifth corner
this is emmanuel goldstein we're down to one busy signal
and actually that's a reorder it's uh 13 minutes after 12 o'clock and uh i'm happy because while uh
radio moscow was playing i was continuing my census work and i found three americans at a tire factory
in nepal that's right uh three of them we were unsuccessful in japan we couldn't find anybody
at kdd the japanese phone company that was american but my job is to search and seek out americans in
foreign places that don't want to be searched and sought out uh but i found bob who is five
foot eleven josephine who is five foot four and theodore six foot three inches and they're over there
in nepal and now i have them on the forum here i've got the red felt tip pen and again let me remind
folks that you do have the right to choose your census organization in other words you don't have
to send to that other census organization you can send to our census organization which is the
north american census association um it's just one of those uh one of those ways of being uh
i guess fair about things you know divestiture of the census bureau or what have you a lot of
people don't know about it and we're here to educate and uh not confused so it's what's the
opposite of confused someone help me here uh inform thank you thank you very much who is that anyway well
it's uh it's almost a quarter after 12 and i've got to get back to work uh counting people finding
people all over the place um in fact my next stop is uh well maybe maybe you can come along for this
one i've been calling i called about 14 countries while radio moscow was uh was playing and uh only
found those uh those three in nepal but i do get a commission on that i get a commission on all the
americans i find i'm going to try the phone company over in england they're always very pleasant
please tell you from london uh yes hi this is england right yes hi my name is mr goldstein i'm
calling from the north american census association oh i've got time to tell a rabbit i'm sorry
hmm he said something about a rabbit
oh we're going to keep this line open uh
oh we hung up wow
what do you mean by that oh see that's the kind of response i keep getting everywhere i call people
don't want to be counted but i'll tell you folks it's uh it's for your own good so fill out that
form make up your own form remember we don't ask you to make up to to fill out a particular form just
make it up yourself we just want your first name and your height red felt tip pen please and just
send it to north american census association drop it in the mailbox no address necessary it'll get to us
okay enough public service announcements here time for us to uh get to something a bit more relevant
the ones who brought you image 73 bring you something different moribund music of the 70s
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the past as it actually happens through music commercials news reports contests phone calls
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promo pieces there are acapellas and dozens and dozens of instrumental thematic elements
an entire catalog of scored production music in every possible tempo intensity and texture
listener
so
Execute a perfect cut.
We'll be right back.
Or they wouldn't have gone to this trouble.
They're all using short jingles.
There's nothing wrong with short jingles, for God's sake.
They make for a better format and flow of their batteries.
We agree.
There are a lot of good reasons for short ideas.
But there's no reason they should make you sound the same as everybody else.
The same as everybody else.
What they are, what they are, what they are is marvelous pirates and great presenters of other people's ideas.
They look pretty good.
Yeah, they look good.
Yeah, they look good.
Yeah, they look good.
What is the problem?
What is the problem?
They look good.
What is the problem?
They look good.
They look pretty good.
Yeah, they look good.
Can't use it.
Yeah, you're right.
They look good.
Yeah, they look good.
Why, yes.
In spite of the more ridiculous successes.
Now, that sounds different.
That's different.
That's different.
Yeah, they look good.
But who's...
But who's...
But, you know...
We're talking about...
We're talking about selling records.
We're not talking about bringing in people for nostalgia purposes here.
Execute a perfect cut.
Music Radio.
And I ain't heard nothing up and down the dial in the middle of the dial of nowhere.
And I ain't heard nothing up and down the dial in the middle of the dial of nowhere.
And I ain't heard nothing up and down the dial in the middle of the dial of nowhere.
Mayonnaise.
But a bunch of Rudy Poops.
Bunch of Rudy Poops.
Rudy Poops.
Come on.
Know what I mean?
So please, whatever you do...
I'm a human radio station.
I'm a human radio station.
Got it?
I'm a human radio station.
Got it?
Okay.
Okay.
That's Pink Floyd.
Okay.
No.
Are you kidding?
You calling me no disc jockey and all that other stuff?
No.
I'm the greatest radio personality in the world.
Get there.
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
Come on.
I can play me some Pink Floyd.
I can play me some Pink Floyd.
I can play me some Pink Floyd.
No.
No.
No, I like Pink Floyd, too, yeah.
Orange or Rudy.
You know what I mean?
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
Got it.
They don't understand the fragmentation.
Let's take a phone call.
Yeah.
Hey, C-P-H.
Salt Lake City.
K-P-U-R.
The Big Taylor.
K-I-R-L.
Doing it with K-Q-E-O.
W-T-A-C
K-E-R-U-I
1440
K-R-U-X
The D-H-Y
Serving Los Angeles
Day in and day up
So they sat and listened to the radio
Day in and day up
So they sat and listened to the radio
Day in and day up
So they sat and listened to the radio
Day in and day up
To think what it was that was calculus
Oh my gosh
What a coincidence
This happens to be in style
Perfect cut
Yeah, yeah, yeah
They don't understand the
Practition
They could be still
Making a lot of records and a lot of money
To the record companies in 1992
That's what we've been talking about
Who is going to be
Who will have the Spain power
Who will be around
Seven years from now
Number one
Number one
Number one
Number one
Number one
Number one
Number one
Number one
He was the top vote getter
To be a superstar in 1992
This is Frank State
Feel he'll be around
Will not burn out
Frank
What a problem is
Close behind
Although some people wonder
Whether he will
Maybe get a win
And decide not to
Be in the record business
Michael Jackson
Who is still
The third top vote getter
To be around
Because of 1992
He is
To live...
To live...
To live...
To live...
To live...
To live...
To live...
To live...
To live...
To live...
To live...
To live...
See why...
To live...
mam...
Can't hear?
David Marie, Jimmy Lennon, and Steve Bazaar.
Well, it's become a very big business, and there are small companies, Sue, that's fragmented,
but I think that, yes, it's a very big business.
Listen.
I've got permanently pressed hang-ups over a year.
What you doing, old-timer?
Singing, can't you tell?
But you're only interested in gold.
That's why I'm singing, going after a gold record.
Try Nuco Margarine.
How's it gold?
Nuco's good as gold.
For very little silver.
I'll never sell.
Sure will.
Nuco tastes like butter and costs much less than the other fancy margarines.
Nice tune, but you can't dance to that.
Pragmentation.
Pragmentation.
Pragmentation.
Icon.
Pragmentation.
Incongruent.
They don't understand the fragmentation.
The record alone is $12 billion a year worldwide.
In America, it's $5 billion a year.
Pragmentation.
Pragmentation.
Pragmentation.
Pragmentation.
Pragmentation.
Well, I'm another perfect guy.
Standardization.
Standardization.
Standardization.
Standardization.
Standardization.
Standardization.
Hi, this is Dave.
I can't get to the phone right now.
Standardization.
So if you leave your name and number at the sign of the tone,
it will chop off your shit.
Standardization.
Standardization.
You may start your message now.
Standardization.
Standardization.
Standardization.
You've got to be damaged.
Okay?
Standardization.
I mean, it's big, big business.
I mean, it's big, big business.
Thank you for calling. Bye.
I mean, it's big, big business.
I mean, it's big, big business.
I mean, it's big, big business.
$5 billion a year in the United States.
That doesn't include the personal appearance tours.
It doesn't include the merchandising.
It doesn't include the music publishing and the songwriting.
And all the ancillary times like a deal with Coca-Cola for $5, $10 or $12 million to tie in with a particular soft drink manufacturer.
I like a piece of meat.
It depends upon at what point in their career.
Certainly in the beginning of their career, it could be 8% of the retail selling price, 10%.
12%, it depends if their producer is included.
A big superstar, you should figure, is getting about 20% of the retail selling price.
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I'd like a piece of meat.
I would think so.
It may be some kickers as well and some other bonuses.
But they also get guarantees in advance.
They might get a $5 billion advance against their royalties, which means it's recouped against each unit they sell.
But they don't ever have to return.
That's the beginning of what's called the depersonalization of the arts.
But that's also the beginning of the money-making process, because all of this is a business.
It's making music, but it's also making money.
$10 bills.
Oh, my God.
$50 bills.
$100 bills.
No, I love it.
What's on everybody's lips today?
You can cut your meat bill in half or eliminate it entirely.
Is it budget, budget, and budget, and budget?
Is it budget, budget, and budget, and budget?
Well...
What?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Budget.
Well, I suppose little Rondo with a high cost of eating.
I said, I like a...
And then he stopped.
Cut.
And yet another perfect cut.
Oh my gosh, what a coincidence.
This happens to be in style.
Be in style.
Well, one of the most important things in my life are succeeding and making my goals.
And my goals are I'd like to get a swimming scholarship to a college.
And I'd like to become a lawyer when I grow up, you know.
And I'd like to go to college at UCLA because I hear they have nice weather.
It's good looking guys that are awful at a party place.
And, you know, it's not too bad of a full leader.
And, let's see, I'd like to have, next year in high school, you know, I'd like to make a lot of friends, have a nice time with them.
And I'd like to get a few boyfriends and have a nice time with them.
And, let's see, what else?
You know, I'd like to go to a lot of parties and have good times.
I want to, when I grow up, I want to get a white rabbit convertible and live in a nice place and have a dog named Gidget.
And, um, I'd like to work in a nice building in a town town with a bunch of good looking guys working in there.
I can have a nice time and, you know, take my friends out to lunch and buy my parents nice things and be a happy person.
And the most important thing in my life is to go to heaven when I die.
I think that's it.
That was exciting because it was so foreign to the adults.
Yeah, another role that is part of it.
I mean, allow them to be on the air this long.
Oh, it was, I mean, they were so turned off to that music, including myself.
As I said before, give them another brand of envy I have with.
We've been listening to you and you've been telling us that you had identity problems.
Give them credit for having that much sense.
When I first played it, I said, is this for real?
Can't use it.
Is this for real?
And that's what we expect from Dropbox.
You told us that your competitors' jingles sound like yours.
You've been telling us that you need to increase flow out of stop sets.
Yeah, another one of those videos probably.
That jingles shouldn't hang up the flow at the most crucial time.
The time that you need to get from a commercial break back into music.
You've been telling us that you need a new way of handling flow lines.
Let me help you.
800 directory.
Who are you called?
You're called.
800 directory.
Hello.
800 directory.
Maybe I should listen more closely.
Hello.
And I did.
And I learned to dance to it.
Help you.
And then it was over.
I was sucked in.
Mark?
What are you listening to?
And you've been telling us that the jingles need to be shorter.
One radio station.
One vital channel of communication.
Is the simple voice that can speak for it all.
Now, listen.
Mark, you just claimed a $100 bill.
Oh, my God.
$100, Mark.
I don't believe it.
90 keys change.
$100.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
How hard is that?
Oh, listen.
100-dollar bill.
Fantastic.
You like that?
That is fantastic.
The modulator.
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it's so annoying i used to just shut the radio right now
just when you thought it was safe to turn on your radio jam the box
is that what we were waiting for
oh yeah it's a jammer jammer jammer jammer jammer
jammer no other from here
oh
never say that never say that
he's done he starts everything out of the way
get nobody jammed
and the special offenses are just on ladies
jam the box
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we can't tell who's doing what
this is damn much not
better transition in half the time
the jingle never gets in the way of the flow
there's no way we're gonna keep the jammers at it
i want to go down
the music
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i still say big mod is a prostitute
i want to eat
i want to eat
i said dick mod was a prostitute
jesus christ
i said dick mod
i said dick mod
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and
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and
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and now 200 cuts later
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we've gone at it for about half an hour
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That's cake, boy.
And she's a sicklebag, polymorphous perverse.
That was really good.
Yeah, wasn't it?
Yes.
Uh, what about the record?
Ah, they'll get it.
I want to go to Peter's house.
I have to go pee.
I like that.
I don't wanna go down.
I want to take a nap.
I want to take a nap.
I want to go.
I'm so tired.
I'm happy.
I'm sad.
I want to go home.
I have to go pee.
I like that.
I'm happy.
I don't wanna go.
Are you sad?
I want to pee.
I want to take a nap.
I want to take a nap.
Are you sad?
I'm so getting busy while I'm shaking you down.
I'm on the air.
You're on the ground.
You're deep.
The enemy words you need built for speed.
But what you need is funky fresh lyrics falling down on time.
Your enemy popping it.
Dropping dimes.
Coming out rocking.
Tomahawk slam.
And still getting fly with the mic in my hand.
I'm cold pulling out.
Laying in the shade.
Deal is bugging cause it gonna get sprayed.
Stay intimidator.
Your scar face.
I don't have what's taking place.
I don't wear gold.
But I clock ducats.
Cause I have the money overflowing out of buckets.
You want crazy dollars.
I make people holler.
You stick them up stupid.
And I'm snatching by the collars cause I'm-
I don't want to go to the police.
I don't want to go to the police.
I don't want to go to the police.
I'll reveal Jamai to alleviate
Unnecessary pressures that can recreate
The same that stung, Yamaguchi Fuyang
He bit the public enemy, he really got hung
His brain was getting bigger than a pregnant toad
His heart's feet stopped cause of overload
See, I made the beat that broke his back
I got a circulation made his world learn black
I found things out like ESP
I got Crescens brain velocity
Alexander Monday, a man like Flint
Mercedes limousine with a hardcore pit
I'm captain of the ships, I make him walk the planes
Riding around the world 160 million francs
Not like the kind that you put on the grill
Cause I only do it like that when I'm on chill hill
I'm the
I don't wanna eat
Go down
I don't wanna go to Peter's house
I'm sad
I have to go pee
Pee?
Are you happy?
Are you sad?
I want to pee
I want to pee
The important thing to remember at this stage
Is that nearly all pirates get busted in the end
It just didn't seem possible for a station to ever become active and achieve a large audience
Often, the FCC caught on quickly
The station slipped up and gave out vital information
Or the operators became too sure of themselves to believe they could get busted
But a few professionally styled stations began popping up in the 75 meter amateur band in 1977
That defied this norm
Are you sad?
Each station was believed to be connected with the others
Or maybe they were all run by one organization
Because all were very similar in program and technical quality
All of these pirates used apparently high power
Had clean audio
Played music
And humor programs
Spoofed shortwave radio broadcasting and listening
Gave out fake locations
Usually with fake addresses
I like that
Used obscenities
Okay
And operated in the middle of 75 meters
I don't wanna go to Peter's house
Since few other pirates had high power and clean audio at that time
It seems likely that at least a couple of the stations worked together
The perplexing question
Is why would anyone want to broadcast in the middle of a ham band
It is definitely the worst place on shortwave to broadcast for interference reasons
And because the amateurs quickly complained to the FCC
Whenever a transmitter is operated illegally
WBLO became the first and most widely heard of the stations on 75 meters
With broadcast initiating in 1977
WGLI Great Lakes Radio claimed the location from the shores of Lake Superior
And played pop music briefly in 1979
Less than six months after Radio Clandestine was mentioned in
Frindex by the listener
Another station, possibly the original
Jumped on to 75 meters with the same call sign and format
It quit after several broadcasts
WBLO returned in early 1980 after a few months of silence
I don't wanna watch a movie
The voice of Syncom and Radio Confusion
I want to play
Two other stations that began about the same time as the second
Or return of Radio Clandestine
Also received high acclaim
Radio Confusion, the crazy world radio network
Operated much like a legal shortwave broadcaster
Except less frequently
The station operated for about one hour every month
On frequencies between 7,400 and 14,000 kilohertz
Radio Confusion was the first American pirate
To actively operate in the higher frequency ranges
I want to go, too
I'm sick of that, okay
Away with you
I was reading something here
I don't know if you were able to realize that
But that was a book I was reading just now
It's called Pirate Radio Stations
Tuning in to Underground Broadcasts
And we've got about 12 minutes left
Let me just say
Anybody wants to call in
We'll try to squeeze you in
In the 12 minutes we have
We'll have to make
Kind of cramped arrangements to do that
But we can do it
And let me tell you what you've been listening to
Besides the book
It's written by Andrew R. Yoder
And it's published by Tab Books
This just came out
This just came out
Copyright 1990
And Tab Books
It has sections about political pirates
Pirates since 1983
Pirate Radio from 1925 to 1976
From 1976 to 1982
Inside Pirate Radio
Euro Pirates
Offshore Pirates
Holiday Pirates
Political Pirates
Pirate Utilities
How to Verify Pilates
Pirates, not Pilates
And all kinds of things like that
We also heard from
From Negative Land
A bit of pirate radio there
I guess you would say
We heard The Perfect Cut
Canned Music
Rudy Poops
Good as Gold
Piece of Meat
White Rabbit
And a Dog Named Gidget
11 minutes
48 hours
Alright folks
I warned you
It's going to be cramped
So let's see what we can do
Hi
Hi
I'm Emmanuel Goldstein
I've heard a lot of your shows
Here on WBAI
And you seem to be
A pretty technically oriented person
I was wondering
If you knew anything
About hamburgers
Well does the other caller
Want to respond to that
I was wondering
If there was an index in that book
I was wondering
If WMDT was mentioned
Ah
WMDT
Right about where you guys are
Up here in Orange County, New York
I don't see a WM
I see a WMMO
WMMR
And WMM
This guy was great
He came on crystal clear
Right in the middle of FM
And would come on
For like 4 or 5 hours
Every now and then
Uh huh
And he would
You know
Right about where BAI is
Right below it
There's kind of a dead zone here
You know
I guess we're between
Two other lobes or something
Right in the middle of the band
And he had the best rock and roll
And the clearest transmitter
I've ever heard
And he was
He was right smack in the middle
Of New York City
Oh no
It's Middletown, New York
It's about 40-50 miles up
From the city
That's where I'm listening
To you from
Ah
Well I guess he's not
Transmitting today
Eh
He had about a
Maybe a 25 mile radius
Whatever power that puts him out
I don't know
But he was crystal clear
And he'd come on
Use a lot of fake names
Like one day he'd be
WMDT Middletown, New York
Very professional
You thought
You thought it was a new station
That was his gimmick
He would like
Go to these fake commercials
Where they would be invisible
I would say he probably
Half the people
That listened to him
Had no idea
He was bootleg
Well that's
I mean I have a tape of him
I have like a 45 minute thing
I found him on one day
And I got the tape
And then he went off the air
Right when I only got
About 45 minutes
But you know
Really jamming
Playing you know
Full album sides
With you know
Dolby
I mean my Dolby light
Used to come on
You know
The last pirate
I guess
That most people remember
Is Radio New York International
The one that operated
Off the boat
In Long Island
Oh yeah
I know of that
But it's great
I just wondered
I really have to run
It's late
Okay it is late
We all have to run
Thanks for calling
Is there another caller
On the line?
Is anyone on the line?
Yeah
I was asking about
Hamburgers
What about hamburgers?
Like if you'd like to get one
After the show is over
Well
Because all I had to eat
Today was like
Cheesecake
And a little egg
With like cream cheese
In it on an onion roll
Well I don't know
If you're trying to get people
Sick over the radio
That's
The power of radio
Means that you can
Do things like that
You can
Make people physically ill
As well as mentally upset
Oh yeah
Like I hear my radio
Talking to me every day
You know
It rubs my mind
And you know
Just makes fun of me
All day long
Like for instance
Yesterday I was meant to sleep
And you know
This computer just came
Into my mind
And gave me a round
Of applause
From like 50,000 people
You know
One computer can do that
To you
It can give you
A round of applause
From 50,000 people
It's amazing
The things you can learn
Sir have you ever been
Active in pirate radio
No I haven't
But I hope
There will be plenty
I think
I think with
People like you around
There will be plenty
Of course
There'll be me around
There'll also be
This big daddy computer
And there'll also be
Other TV computers
And plastics
And hopefully
You know
Kids will become
Knowledgeable
At the age of six
And learn their stuff
You know
If a farm helped out
Of course you know
You know
I'm playing the game
With TV on one end
And keeping my parents
Happy on the other
279-3400
Give us a call
Rescue us here
And
Can I ask you
We want to hear
We want to hear
Other people's opinions
We want to hear
Them interrelate
And things like that
You know
I'm sorry
You know what it's like
To think
Well that's a
Okay I don't think
How could I say no
You know
I don't think
Just voices in a brain
Okay
Haven't thought
Since 1976
First time
Uh huh
I see
Would you like
To explain this
To somebody else
Okay
I'm sorry
Hello
Yeah go ahead
Go ahead
We're having
Some trouble
Communicating here
Obviously
Oh okay
Because you know
This all started
1976
Earth time
I was designated
By this computer
To pull the plug
On it
Okay
I was working
In the fashion center
The garment district
This computer
Just came into my mind
You know
Told me to hang up
My business phone
You know
It takes over
Your subconscious
And you know
Sent me to
Eleven mental hospitals
Three jails
Got me a divorce
From my wife
Has beaten my pants in
For over twelve years
In the mind
And I am the computer
Okay
And whatever I've been through
Is the world's worst
And you don't know that
And I am the computer
And you know
That's how it's going to be
Until I'm helped out
Go ahead
And already
A few senators
Know about this in writing
Senator Gore
Senator Bradley
And you know
Mail has been stolen
From me in the past
Important documents
Documents
You keep quiet
And I have the return receipts
You keep quiet
Let's hear what the
New caller has to say
Hello
Yeah go ahead
Hi
How you doing
Okay
Where you calling from
Jamaica, Queens, New York
Oh I've heard of it
Oh okay
How you doing out there
Alright
I was just wondering
Like what kind of
Station are you
I mean like
Do you play rap
Or I mean
Yes
Well we play
We play all kinds of things
We play what's on our minds
We talk a lot
Oh cause see
I'm into rock
I'm into rap
You know like
Public Enemy
I like Twisted Sisters
I like everybody
Yeah
Well you know
There's a lot to be learned
From everybody
And we try to
We try to get to it all
Yeah
But we
There's a lot to be said
As well you know
Sounds good
What's your name by the way
Emmanuel Goldstein
Emmanuel Goldstein
Okay
Yeah and I come this way
Every two weeks
At about this time
For an hour and fifteen minutes
And I doubt this number
For a 718 area code
I got your answering machine
Well I don't think
You got my answering machine
But there is a 279 exchange
In the 718 area code
And I pity the person
That has 279-3400
And 718
Office of Emmanuel Goldstein
Uh huh
We got two more
We got three more people
Let's see what they all have to know
But I have a good afternoon
And I've been listening to WBI
For quite some time
I want to know
If you have any information
Being that you're a political activist station
Regarding the bombing
At the courtroom of Al Shopton
Uh no I'm sorry
We don't have any information on that
The newsroom is closed
Can I ask you my question?
Go ahead
Okay um
Do you know anything about
Shortwave radios?
Uh I've heard you talk about it
A little bit
So I thought maybe
If anybody would know
Could you tell me
If you could get WBAI
Over a shortwave radio
Um in another state?
No you can't get WBAI
In a shortwave radio
But it would be a good idea
If uh
And I'm not suggesting this
But if a
A pirate radio station
Were to start up somewhere
And they had a lack of programming
Just putting the microphone
Next to a radio
That was uh
Spewing out WBAI
Would certainly prove interesting
For the rest of the country
And the rest of the world
So how could they do that?
Uh well you know
I don't know exactly how
To start a pirate radio station
But I do know that
There are quite a few
Especially in the shortwave bands
There's one out on Long Island
Called Radio Free Long Island
And uh
Or the voice
The voice of Free Long Island
Or something like that
And they broadcast to
A good part of North America
Uh and they're
They're only about 100 watts
I couldn't do it with a short
They
Because they have a transmitter
I mean
Uh huh
Well
It's not
It's not all that expensive
It just takes a little bit
Of ingenuity
But you're less likely
To get hassled
By federal authorities
On the shortwave band
Because so few Americans
Listen to the shortwave band
In the first place
Um
But
But
Now
Wait a minute
I want to get this straight
Because if
If I found someone
With a transmitter
In an
And let's say
We're in Colorado
Or New Mexico
Um
They could
They could pick up
On WBAI
But I can't
On a
I would need a transmitter
In other words
Well
Somebody would have to
Rebroadcast our signal
On a shortwave
Pirate radio station
That's
That's
That's
That's what I'm trying to say
Okay
Who else is on the line
I am
How you doing
I built the computer
That's bothering the other guy
Oh you did
Tell us about it please
It's
It's an extremely small computer
I'm going to go listen to the radio
Well it's an extremely small person
I think
Goodbye
Who else is here
Yeah I am
And I am
Okay
Go ahead
Where can you get these transmitters
At an army surplus store
Oh I don't know
I think
I heard that you could
I think you have to build them
But uh
Yeah probably the army surplus
Because they certainly
Send out a lot of shortwave messages
Don't they
And um
Also on the higher frequencies
With some modifications
So if anyone's interested
They might want to look into that
Uh huh
Picking up an old army surplus transmitter
And
And uh
Some of these are even portable
Put it in the back of a van
And they'll never catch you
Well that's uh
That's uh
Something to think about
Drive around like Brooklyn
And Queens
And uh
A mobile station
Right
With CDs or something you know
My question is how do bootleggers
Usually get caught
How do
How do
Who usually get caught
Bootleggers
You mean uh
Pirate radio people
Yeah
Usually because they don't do
What this other person is suggesting
They stay in one place
And they just uh
Allow themselves to be uh
Surrounded and found
And uh
Most people that uh
Broadcast
Pirate radio stations
Do it on the FM band
And uh
FM broadcasters
Get very upset by that
Commercial
Uh huh
Broadcasters
Sure you guys don't
Of course not
We uh
We're a real radio station
Hey the guy with the computers
Is he still on
No he sort of fell away
He had tried medicating himself
Possibly
Yeah
It's an idea
Thanks for calling folks
Thanks for listening
And uh
We'll see you again
In two weeks maybe
Okay
Alright
This is Emmanuel Goldstein
The program has been
The Fifth Corner
Stay tuned for Bob Fast
Coming in
And
I hope you learned
Something tonight
I know I sure did
Not the kind of thing
You can wrap up in words
But uh
The kind of thing
You can just sort of
Absorb through your skin
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