Off The Hook - 2003-03-12

[00:02.160 --> 00:05.760]  [SPEAKER_15]: And this is WBAI New York, where it's exactly 7 o'clock.
[00:05.960 --> 00:07.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: And watch, it's 7.01 now.
[00:07.960 --> 00:09.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: But it's still time for Off the Hook.
[00:15.240 --> 00:19.760]  [SPEAKER_18]: The telephone keeps ringing, so I ripped it off the wall.
[00:20.760 --> 00:25.340]  [SPEAKER_18]: I cut myself while shaving, now I can't make a cough.
[00:26.140 --> 00:30.780]  [SPEAKER_18]: We couldn't get much worse, but if they could, they would.
[00:31.020 --> 00:33.710]  [SPEAKER_17]: A billy-bomb for the best, expect the worst.
[00:34.520 --> 00:37.340]  [SPEAKER_17]: I hope that's understood, but didn't it, no?
[02:46.110 --> 02:50.910]  [SPEAKER_14]: Uno, due, tre, quattro, uno...
[02:54.000 --> 02:55.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: And a very good evening to everybody.
[02:55.400 --> 02:57.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: The program is Off the Hook here on...
[02:57.720 --> 02:58.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: WBAI.
[02:59.200 --> 03:04.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: We have Jeff joining us on the phone from San Diego, is it?
[03:05.140 --> 03:09.960]  [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, San Diego, where it's exactly about a couple minutes after 4 o'clock.
[03:10.420 --> 03:13.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know how they do that, but that's fascinating.
[03:13.460 --> 03:15.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's a couple minutes after 7 o'clock here in New York.
[03:17.500 --> 03:18.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: And we're here for...
[03:18.660 --> 03:19.360]  [SPEAKER_10]: Miracles of technology.
[03:19.640 --> 03:25.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: We're here for another exciting edition of Off the Hook, where all kinds of exciting things will be reported on.
[03:25.220 --> 03:32.760]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'd like to start off, actually, on kind of a, I guess, a lighter note, only because we have so many heavy notes to start off on, usually, and to finish off with.
[03:33.100 --> 03:35.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: But let's start with...
[03:35.280 --> 03:37.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: How about a little game, okay?
[03:37.600 --> 03:37.920]  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[03:38.160 --> 03:41.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: Where I call something, and somebody guesses what it is.
[03:42.860 --> 03:43.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: How's that?
[03:44.280 --> 03:45.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, wait, I forgot to turn your mic on.
[03:45.800 --> 03:46.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: There you go, Mike.
[03:46.420 --> 03:48.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, I said it sounds like fun.
[03:48.040 --> 03:48.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: It is fun.
[03:48.920 --> 03:49.760]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's meant to be fun.
[03:49.900 --> 03:51.020]  [SPEAKER_14]: Okay, I got a rules question.
[03:51.020 --> 03:52.100]  [SPEAKER_14]: It better be fun, all right?
[03:52.500 --> 03:53.340]  [SPEAKER_03]: When do we guess?
[03:53.340 --> 03:54.220]  [SPEAKER_03]: After we hear it?
[03:54.340 --> 03:55.360]  [SPEAKER_03]: Or do we hear the touchstones?
[03:55.600 --> 03:59.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: What you'll do, since this is radio, you'll hear what I'm going to play.
[04:00.080 --> 04:01.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: You'll raise your hands.
[04:01.920 --> 04:05.180]  [SPEAKER_15]: And I'll call on the first person that raises their hand.
[04:05.300 --> 04:06.840]  [SPEAKER_15]: What if Jeff is the first person?
[04:07.600 --> 04:09.320]  [SPEAKER_10]: I'll call out, my hand's raised.
[04:09.460 --> 04:10.440]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, Jeff can blurt out.
[04:10.900 --> 04:11.360]  [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
[04:12.060 --> 04:12.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know, okay.
[04:13.660 --> 04:16.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: So basically, okay, let's do this.
[04:16.840 --> 04:17.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: I won't waste any more time.
[04:17.980 --> 04:18.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's get a dial tone here.
[04:18.820 --> 04:20.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: And Jeff, you're going to hear dialing.
[04:20.040 --> 04:21.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: So don't be confused.
[04:22.000 --> 04:22.200]  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[04:23.100 --> 04:24.540]  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't guess based on the dialing.
[04:24.640 --> 04:24.820]  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
[04:25.860 --> 04:27.320]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, that would be a neat trick if you could do that.
[04:30.220 --> 04:30.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[04:33.120 --> 04:34.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: Again, I have to...
[04:34.360 --> 04:37.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: I wish you were here to hold the phone, Jeff, because these buttons are...
[04:37.580 --> 04:38.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: I hear the dialing, too.
[04:39.780 --> 04:40.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'm sorry, guys.
[04:40.780 --> 04:40.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: Here we go.
[04:41.220 --> 04:41.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: You're going to have to be quiet.
[05:03.610 --> 05:05.370]  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll make a wild, wild guess.
[05:05.390 --> 05:05.910]  [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead, Jim.
[05:06.190 --> 05:09.410]  [SPEAKER_03]: It's some sort of Japanese language.
[05:09.410 --> 05:09.870]  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, no.
[05:09.930 --> 05:10.190]  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait a minute.
[05:10.270 --> 05:10.630]  [SPEAKER_03]: Let me finish.
[05:10.950 --> 05:12.210]  [SPEAKER_15]: You got it right already.
[05:12.450 --> 05:12.710]  [SPEAKER_15]: What?
[05:12.870 --> 05:14.230]  [SPEAKER_15]: I just wanted the language.
[05:14.350 --> 05:14.570]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's all.
[05:14.670 --> 05:15.550]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's obviously AT&T.
[05:15.550 --> 05:16.310]  [SPEAKER_15]: We know that much.
[05:16.570 --> 05:16.710]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh.
[05:17.070 --> 05:17.310]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[05:17.430 --> 05:17.970]  [SPEAKER_15]: But we don't...
[05:17.970 --> 05:18.430]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's very good.
[05:18.590 --> 05:18.810]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's right.
[05:18.870 --> 05:19.770]  [SPEAKER_15]: Jim was the only one who knew that.
[05:19.890 --> 05:20.570]  [SPEAKER_15]: Except for me, of course.
[05:20.570 --> 05:21.590]  [SPEAKER_09]: Is it the long distance operator?
[05:21.590 --> 05:22.010]  [SPEAKER_15]: Sorry, hold on.
[05:22.070 --> 05:22.610]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't have your mic on.
[05:23.370 --> 05:23.730]  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[05:23.750 --> 05:24.170]  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me get rid of it.
[05:24.230 --> 05:25.970]  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[05:26.070 --> 05:26.670]  [SPEAKER_15]: Please be quiet.
[05:27.270 --> 05:27.810]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh-oh.
[05:29.090 --> 05:29.450]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[05:29.450 --> 05:31.730]  [SPEAKER_15]: We almost talked to a live person in Japan or something.
[05:31.870 --> 05:33.530]  [SPEAKER_19]: Is it a Japanese long distance operator?
[05:34.730 --> 05:38.870]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's what Japanese people are supposed to do when they want to talk to AT&T.
[05:38.990 --> 05:39.910]  [SPEAKER_15]: They're supposed to call that number.
[05:40.770 --> 05:42.330]  [SPEAKER_19]: So it's the long distance operator from Japan?
[05:42.470 --> 05:42.830]  [SPEAKER_19]: Apparently.
[05:43.470 --> 05:44.190]  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait a minute.
[05:44.290 --> 05:45.150]  [SPEAKER_03]: Japanese people where?
[05:45.350 --> 05:45.590]  [SPEAKER_03]: Here?
[05:45.710 --> 05:46.670]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know.
[05:46.930 --> 05:49.450]  [SPEAKER_15]: Maybe if you want to hang on, we could talk to them and ask them.
[05:49.610 --> 05:49.750]  [SPEAKER_15]: No.
[05:49.750 --> 05:51.190]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, it's an 800 number.
[05:51.550 --> 05:52.110]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's an 800 number.
[05:52.450 --> 05:52.750]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[05:53.210 --> 05:53.470]  [SPEAKER_15]: Good.
[05:54.410 --> 05:56.030]  [SPEAKER_15]: Now, Jim, you're ahead by one.
[05:56.170 --> 06:03.730]  [SPEAKER_19]: One weird thing is if you ever call Japan and get a wrong number, they say the error message in Japanese and then in English.
[06:03.930 --> 06:05.990]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, a lot of things in Japan are both in English and Japanese.
[06:05.990 --> 06:06.390]  [SPEAKER_15]: But that wasn't.
[06:06.930 --> 06:13.310]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, no, because I think this is geared towards people here in the United States specifically calling that 800 number because they're Japanese.
[06:13.330 --> 06:14.890]  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought I heard the word New York.
[06:15.150 --> 06:15.590]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, me too.
[06:15.610 --> 06:16.270]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, maybe you did.
[06:16.270 --> 06:19.270]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know, but let's move on to something else here.
[06:19.630 --> 06:19.830]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[06:20.850 --> 06:21.910]  [SPEAKER_15]: What should the other one be?
[06:22.050 --> 06:22.850]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's go over here.
[06:24.150 --> 06:26.190]  [SPEAKER_15]: Again, Jeff, you're going to hear dialing.
[06:26.290 --> 06:27.030]  [SPEAKER_15]: Please don't be confused.
[06:27.650 --> 06:27.930]  [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
[06:35.760 --> 06:36.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[06:36.430 --> 06:36.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Everybody quiet.
[06:40.720 --> 06:41.520]  [SPEAKER_21]: AT&T.
[06:42.830 --> 06:45.280]  [SPEAKER_21]: Pожалуйста, наберите code города and местный номер.
[06:45.280 --> 06:45.720]  [SPEAKER_21]: Yes, Leo.
[06:45.900 --> 06:46.580]  [SPEAKER_21]: That's Russian.
[06:47.330 --> 06:47.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: Russian.
[06:47.840 --> 06:48.330]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's very good.
[06:49.880 --> 06:57.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: So, you know, I wasn't sure because, you know, some people told me that you were just spoofing the accent and you really, you know, were just from Staten Island.
[06:57.880 --> 06:57.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, I am.
[06:58.100 --> 06:58.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: I am.
[06:58.240 --> 06:59.210]  [SPEAKER_15]: You really are Russian.
[06:59.380 --> 07:01.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: Or, I mean, you might have just known that, but...
[07:01.240 --> 07:01.900]  [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[07:01.900 --> 07:02.450]  [SPEAKER_15]: What's she saying?
[07:03.300 --> 07:09.720]  [SPEAKER_19]: But then I'm saying dial the number that you're trying to call or push something, and I missed that word, for operator.
[07:10.020 --> 07:11.330]  [SPEAKER_19]: Probably zero or something.
[07:11.820 --> 07:12.420]  [SPEAKER_16]: Maybe she'll...
[07:13.980 --> 07:15.540]  [SPEAKER_19]: Please hold for the operator.
[07:15.660 --> 07:15.840]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[07:15.980 --> 07:16.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's get rid of her then.
[07:17.330 --> 07:17.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[07:18.060 --> 07:18.330]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[07:18.380 --> 07:19.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: So, we have Japanese and Russian.
[07:20.060 --> 07:20.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[07:21.280 --> 07:24.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'm going to call one more, then we're going to get into the show because I don't think you're going to get this one.
[07:25.000 --> 07:25.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[07:25.500 --> 07:25.760]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[07:25.900 --> 07:27.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: And then we can have our listeners join in as well.
[07:28.480 --> 07:29.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: This will be fun.
[07:29.660 --> 07:32.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: Isn't this much better than starting off with all the doom and gloom we usually do?
[07:33.060 --> 07:34.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, that's still coming.
[07:34.240 --> 07:34.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Don't worry about that.
[07:36.140 --> 07:36.830]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[07:42.010 --> 07:42.890]  [SPEAKER_15]: Now, listen carefully.
[07:50.340 --> 07:51.280]  [SPEAKER_00]: AT&T.
[07:51.880 --> 07:55.900]  [SPEAKER_23]: Pakidyal po lamang ang area code at number na inyong tinatawagan.
[07:56.200 --> 08:03.940]  [SPEAKER_23]: Para sa mga international calls, pakidyal po ang 01, country code, city code, at local...
[08:03.940 --> 08:04.160]  [SPEAKER_23]: English!
[08:04.760 --> 08:07.800]  [SPEAKER_23]: O pakipress po ngayon ang zero para sa operator.
[08:08.120 --> 08:09.120]  [SPEAKER_14]: Good guess, Jeff, but wrong.
[08:09.160 --> 08:09.500]  [SPEAKER_14]: Is that English?
[08:10.380 --> 08:10.780]  [SPEAKER_14]: No.
[08:11.220 --> 08:11.900]  [SPEAKER_14]: Play it again?
[08:12.240 --> 08:13.520]  [SPEAKER_14]: I'm not going to play it again.
[08:13.640 --> 08:14.340]  [SPEAKER_14]: I was going to say one more time.
[08:14.340 --> 08:20.080]  [SPEAKER_23]: Pakidyal po lamang ang number na inyong tinatawagan o pakipress ang zero ngayon para sa operator.
[08:20.520 --> 08:20.920]  [SPEAKER_23]: Korean?
[08:21.380 --> 08:22.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: No, it's not Korean.
[08:22.340 --> 08:23.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: Pigding English?
[08:23.620 --> 08:24.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[08:24.080 --> 08:24.420]  [SPEAKER_15]: Now, look.
[08:24.700 --> 08:26.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: We're going to open this up to our listeners since we're obviously...
[08:26.740 --> 08:28.680]  [SPEAKER_23]: Pakidyal po lamang ang tulong ng operator.
[08:29.240 --> 08:29.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[08:29.760 --> 08:30.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: This is where we get off.
[08:30.940 --> 08:31.600]  [SPEAKER_23]: AT&T.
[08:31.800 --> 08:32.000]  [SPEAKER_23]: Oops.
[08:33.420 --> 08:35.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: They play the English recording.
[08:35.820 --> 08:37.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: I bet they speak whatever this language is.
[08:37.480 --> 08:43.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: So if anyone out there knows what language that is, please give us a call, 212-209-2900, and you'll win.
[08:44.980 --> 08:47.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: And you'll win even more if you can tell us where this is spoken.
[08:48.140 --> 08:48.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[08:49.000 --> 08:50.180]  [SPEAKER_15]: See how we built that up?
[08:50.280 --> 08:50.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: We made it...
[08:50.580 --> 08:51.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: Don't look at the paper.
[08:52.160 --> 08:53.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: How we made it more challenging.
[08:53.980 --> 08:54.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[08:54.280 --> 08:55.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: So what's up in the news?
[08:55.900 --> 08:57.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: Jeff, you're down there in San Diego.
[08:57.400 --> 08:58.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: What's going on?
[08:58.320 --> 09:00.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: You had any adventures getting over there?
[09:00.560 --> 09:01.060]  [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah.
[09:01.160 --> 09:02.500]  [SPEAKER_10]: No, it's good fun.
[09:02.960 --> 09:07.460]  [SPEAKER_10]: You were sorry I wasn't there to hold the phone, but I have to tell you, it's 80 degrees here.
[09:07.560 --> 09:08.280]  [SPEAKER_10]: The sun's shining.
[09:09.320 --> 09:10.280]  [SPEAKER_10]: I'm not sorry.
[09:10.940 --> 09:11.520]  [SPEAKER_10]: You pig.
[09:11.620 --> 09:13.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, I'd be sorry if it was 80 degrees here.
[09:13.300 --> 09:13.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'll tell you what.
[09:13.900 --> 09:14.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, it's...
[09:14.340 --> 09:15.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, I wish it would snow here again.
[09:15.880 --> 09:16.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: In fact, I hear...
[09:16.500 --> 09:17.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: I think it's going to snow again tomorrow.
[09:18.060 --> 09:18.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yes.
[09:18.620 --> 09:19.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: Hey, that's great.
[09:19.140 --> 09:20.320]  [SPEAKER_15]: This has been the best winter ever.
[09:21.320 --> 09:22.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: But let's not talk about the weather.
[09:22.900 --> 09:27.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Did you have any fun experiences on your way of, like, say, on the airplane, for instance?
[09:27.360 --> 09:27.820]  [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah.
[09:28.020 --> 09:28.160]  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[09:28.260 --> 09:28.540]  [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[09:29.460 --> 09:30.380]  [SPEAKER_10]: I know what you mean.
[09:30.540 --> 09:33.120]  [SPEAKER_10]: It was very interesting in the fact that we...
[09:33.120 --> 09:38.020]  [SPEAKER_10]: I had to bring things out here to California that are stainless steel in nature.
[09:38.760 --> 09:47.020]  [SPEAKER_10]: And since they've changed the laws as of December 15th, that you can no longer carry 70 pounds of luggage per bag.
[09:47.020 --> 09:49.080]  [SPEAKER_10]: It's down to 50 pounds.
[09:49.460 --> 09:52.920]  [SPEAKER_10]: So I had to shift some of the things out of my luggage into my partner.
[09:52.920 --> 09:56.800]  [SPEAKER_10]: So he wound up taking some of these pieces of stainless steel.
[09:56.800 --> 09:57.700]  [SPEAKER_10]: Can you...
[09:57.700 --> 09:58.740]  [SPEAKER_10]: Not carry on luggage.
[09:58.740 --> 10:00.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: That sounds awfully suspicious, Jeff.
[10:00.360 --> 10:02.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: What do you mean pieces of stainless steel?
[10:02.200 --> 10:02.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: What is that?
[10:03.420 --> 10:07.460]  [SPEAKER_10]: It's a tool for the ceramic industry.
[10:07.640 --> 10:10.720]  [SPEAKER_10]: It is an artist's ceramic tool.
[10:11.620 --> 10:12.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[10:12.160 --> 10:14.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: And you're at some kind of convention that has to do with ceramics, right?
[10:14.860 --> 10:25.500]  [SPEAKER_10]: Right now, I'm out here at the Town and Country Convention Center in San Diego at what's called NCECA, the National Council for the Education in Ceramic Arts.
[10:26.320 --> 10:28.540]  [SPEAKER_10]: And it's just a nice, big...
[10:28.540 --> 10:31.980]  [SPEAKER_10]: Anyone who's anyone that's involved in the ceramic industry is here.
[10:32.120 --> 10:35.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: And they must all be trading stories on what they had to go through to get there.
[10:36.580 --> 10:37.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: Everyone.
[10:37.360 --> 10:38.380]  [SPEAKER_10]: Everyone has a story.
[10:38.380 --> 10:39.800]  [SPEAKER_10]: It's amazing what they're going through.
[10:39.980 --> 10:45.500]  [SPEAKER_10]: Because you've got to imagine, artists, potters, they're not, you know, the easiest person.
[10:45.680 --> 10:51.100]  [SPEAKER_10]: They have a hard enough time just traveling and following, walking in a straight line, let alone, you can't do this, you can't do that.
[10:52.100 --> 10:59.220]  [SPEAKER_10]: But what had happened was, when we got back to the room late last night, we noticed that his bag had been sealed.
[10:59.940 --> 11:02.060]  [SPEAKER_10]: So he had to say, yeah, I need a knife or something.
[11:02.060 --> 11:02.780]  [SPEAKER_10]: I can't get this.
[11:02.900 --> 11:03.780]  [SPEAKER_10]: We didn't steal this.
[11:03.840 --> 11:04.460]  [SPEAKER_10]: What's going on?
[11:04.560 --> 11:05.920]  [SPEAKER_10]: So I broke the seal.
[11:05.920 --> 11:12.040]  [SPEAKER_10]: Well, we opened it up, and then as I was pulling things out, I found this notification of baggage inspection.
[11:12.500 --> 11:13.380]  [SPEAKER_16]: Inside the bag?
[11:13.860 --> 11:14.860]  [SPEAKER_10]: Inside the bag.
[11:15.020 --> 11:16.260]  [SPEAKER_10]: Sealed inside the bag.
[11:16.320 --> 11:17.880]  [SPEAKER_16]: How was the bag sealed?
[11:18.460 --> 11:21.240]  [SPEAKER_10]: They used a white plastic tie wrap.
[11:22.400 --> 11:28.520]  [SPEAKER_10]: Those zip wraps, you know, those pieces, the cable wraps, they call them, too.
[11:30.260 --> 11:34.920]  [SPEAKER_10]: We didn't have one on to begin with, but they put one on once it got there.
[11:34.920 --> 11:42.620]  [SPEAKER_10]: And at the top of the page is the Transportation Security Administration and their logo, and the notification of baggage inspection.
[11:42.620 --> 11:44.200]  [SPEAKER_10]: And if you'd like, I can read this to you.
[11:44.260 --> 11:44.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, go ahead.
[11:44.740 --> 11:44.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: Read it.
[11:45.620 --> 11:57.420]  [SPEAKER_10]: To protect you and your fellow passengers, the Transportation Security Administration, TSA, is required by law, asterisk, and they mention the law on the back, to inspect all checked baggage.
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[13:09.800 --> 13:14.900]  [SPEAKER_10]: Phone toll-free at 866-289-9673.
[13:14.900 --> 13:24.760]  [SPEAKER_10]: And the email is tellTSA at TSA dot, and then the word D-O-T dot G-O-V.
[13:25.000 --> 13:27.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Why would they put an extra dot in there?
[13:27.080 --> 13:27.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Is that just to confuse people?
[13:28.240 --> 13:29.000]  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
[13:29.080 --> 13:34.800]  [SPEAKER_10]: But it literally is the word TSA, then the little dot, and then the letters D-O-T.
[13:35.760 --> 13:37.540]  [SPEAKER_10]: Maybe that's Department of Transportation.
[13:37.540 --> 13:38.140]  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
[13:38.260 --> 13:39.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, maybe it is.
[13:39.380 --> 13:43.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, so it's TSA dot, dot, gov. Yeah.
[13:43.260 --> 13:45.420]  [SPEAKER_15]: No, dot, dot, dot, dot, gov. Oh, you're right.
[13:45.520 --> 13:47.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: Dot, dot, dot, dot, gov. Oh, that's just silly.
[13:48.000 --> 13:52.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: Dot, dot, dot, dot, gov. So now, they can destroy your lock, but they don't have to replace it.
[13:52.980 --> 13:54.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: They can say that that was necessary.
[13:54.740 --> 13:57.020]  [SPEAKER_10]: No, but they will re-secure your bag.
[13:57.220 --> 14:01.120]  [SPEAKER_10]: But you are kind of, from what I understand, you're instructed now not to lock your bags.
[14:02.480 --> 14:10.980]  [SPEAKER_10]: So it just seems kind of, you know, gee, that means anyone that's still handling the bags, if they feel like opening the zipper, they can wrinkle through.
[14:11.840 --> 14:14.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: Why would people lock the bag in the first place, you know?
[14:15.060 --> 14:16.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: Maybe it's something valuable in your luggage.
[14:17.240 --> 14:17.880]  [SPEAKER_10]: There you go.
[14:17.920 --> 14:18.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's possible.
[14:18.840 --> 14:20.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right, so, but you made it safely.
[14:20.700 --> 14:22.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: You didn't even know that you were being searched.
[14:22.940 --> 14:23.840]  [SPEAKER_10]: No, no, didn't know.
[14:23.900 --> 14:31.080]  [SPEAKER_10]: And the amazing thing is, he was the one that got wanded as we were going through, even though his bag had been checked somewhere else.
[14:31.360 --> 14:42.020]  [SPEAKER_10]: For some reason, it seems like whoever I travel with, whether it's Bernie S., my friend Tom, they're the ones that get the whole routine.
[14:42.240 --> 14:43.160]  [SPEAKER_10]: I breeze through.
[14:43.320 --> 14:44.720]  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't get it.
[14:46.220 --> 14:46.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: Interesting.
[14:46.620 --> 14:48.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: You just bring everyone down with you, and then you stay up.
[14:49.540 --> 14:49.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: Exactly.
[14:50.200 --> 14:50.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: Great tactic there.
[14:51.360 --> 14:55.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: Do you think they knew that this person's bags were being searched somewhere else in the airport, and that's why they wanded in?
[14:57.240 --> 15:01.680]  [SPEAKER_10]: No, I don't think so at all, because it happened at two totally different sections, two totally different areas.
[15:01.860 --> 15:03.500]  [SPEAKER_10]: There was no way to really connect the two.
[15:04.080 --> 15:11.800]  [SPEAKER_10]: I did thoroughly look at and screen the boarding passes for any kind of irregularity between his and mine.
[15:12.240 --> 15:17.360]  [SPEAKER_10]: If there was anything that may have acted as a flag or a warning, nothing.
[15:18.080 --> 15:18.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: Interesting.
[15:19.300 --> 15:21.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, the color coding has not yet started.
[15:22.180 --> 15:22.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: No.
[15:22.760 --> 15:23.840]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's going to start soon.
[15:24.720 --> 15:27.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: With Delta, and I understand some other airlines as well will be...
[15:27.560 --> 15:29.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, obviously, other airlines are going to be involved.
[15:29.240 --> 15:37.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, think how stupid it would be if it was just announced that Delta was going to have the passenger screening system where they check your credit report and your bank...
[15:37.000 --> 15:40.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know what your bank account and credit report have to do with how safe you are to travel.
[15:41.420 --> 15:48.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: It seems like you'll be able to create a whole class of people that can travel because they didn't pay their last MasterCard bill or something.
[15:48.780 --> 15:49.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know.
[15:50.700 --> 15:52.680]  [SPEAKER_10]: There is another interesting point.
[15:52.740 --> 15:54.540]  [SPEAKER_10]: A friend of mine left for his trip.
[15:54.680 --> 15:56.580]  [SPEAKER_10]: He's out in Las Vegas at a different show.
[15:57.160 --> 16:10.540]  [SPEAKER_10]: And he was telling me that because he basically is traveling with someone who got both of their seats upgraded to first class, first class passengers didn't have to hassle with any kind of security like the rest.
[16:10.780 --> 16:12.080]  [SPEAKER_10]: They breezed right through.
[16:12.860 --> 16:13.340]  [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[16:13.500 --> 16:16.440]  [SPEAKER_10]: That was his comment to me is, no, it wasn't a problem.
[16:16.540 --> 16:18.460]  [SPEAKER_10]: We just went and got right on the plane.
[16:18.860 --> 16:20.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, they had to go through security first, though, didn't they?
[16:21.840 --> 16:24.820]  [SPEAKER_10]: But it was not... they were not detained, wanded.
[16:24.900 --> 16:27.020]  [SPEAKER_10]: It was just a quick breeze right through.
[16:27.080 --> 16:28.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, who would fly first class and be a terrorist?
[16:29.020 --> 16:29.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: Come on.
[16:30.580 --> 16:30.900]  Well...
[16:30.900 --> 16:32.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, that's just beyond the realm of possibility.
[16:35.600 --> 16:35.920]  [SPEAKER_15]: Interesting.
[16:36.180 --> 16:37.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, I'm glad you made it there safely.
[16:37.680 --> 16:39.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: Of course, you still have to make it back, so...
[16:40.000 --> 16:42.220]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'm sure you'll have more stories to tell us next week.
[16:43.000 --> 16:43.320]  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[16:44.120 --> 16:44.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Probably will.
[16:44.680 --> 16:45.920]  [SPEAKER_15]: I noticed we have...
[16:45.920 --> 16:47.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: If anyone out there...
[16:47.000 --> 16:52.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, I see the phones are ringing, but if anyone out there has a specific guess as to that language, I'd like them to call now.
[16:52.160 --> 16:54.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: Everybody else will take your calls later.
[16:54.200 --> 16:56.320]  [SPEAKER_15]: In fact, don't call now because it'll just be confusing.
[16:56.880 --> 16:57.220]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's...
[16:57.220 --> 16:58.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: We just want to get that out of the way.
[16:58.700 --> 17:04.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: So if people do have a particular idea as to what that language was, please call us, 212-209-2900, and we'll...
[17:04.900 --> 17:05.320]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, look at that.
[17:05.520 --> 17:06.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: A lot of people seem to know.
[17:07.500 --> 17:07.840]  Let's...
[17:07.840 --> 17:09.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: Remember, we're just talking about that right now.
[17:09.900 --> 17:12.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: We'll take more general calls later.
[17:12.500 --> 17:15.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: So I apologize if I'm rude to anybody that doesn't follow those instructions.
[17:15.800 --> 17:16.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's see who's out there.
[17:17.800 --> 17:18.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: And, uh, good evening.
[17:19.120 --> 17:19.220]  [SPEAKER_15]: Whoa.
[17:20.060 --> 17:20.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: A double click.
[17:20.740 --> 17:21.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: I hung right up on that person.
[17:21.620 --> 17:21.760]  [SPEAKER_15]: Sorry.
[17:21.860 --> 17:22.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: Good evening.
[17:22.300 --> 17:22.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: You're on the air.
[17:23.240 --> 17:23.920]  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hello, Emmanuel.
[17:24.160 --> 17:24.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: Hi.
[17:24.840 --> 17:25.560]  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it Thai?
[17:26.060 --> 17:26.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: No, it is not.
[17:27.100 --> 17:27.320]  [SPEAKER_20]: Oh.
[17:27.500 --> 17:28.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: Sorry, you were wrong.
[17:28.440 --> 17:28.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[17:28.700 --> 17:30.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let us, uh, move on to the next, uh, person.
[17:30.880 --> 17:31.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: Good evening.
[17:31.300 --> 17:31.760]  [SPEAKER_15]: You're on the air.
[17:33.180 --> 17:33.460]  [SPEAKER_20]: Hello.
[17:33.680 --> 17:33.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: Go ahead.
[17:34.140 --> 17:34.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: Do you have your guess?
[17:35.140 --> 17:35.420]  [SPEAKER_16]: Philippine?
[17:35.720 --> 17:36.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: Nope.
[17:36.240 --> 17:40.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, actually, um, you have to give me the exact name of the language.
[17:40.220 --> 17:40.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, I don't know.
[17:41.040 --> 17:41.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, okay.
[17:41.580 --> 17:42.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Thanks anyway.
[17:42.040 --> 17:42.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: I got it.
[17:42.600 --> 17:43.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right, what is it?
[17:43.300 --> 17:44.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: I got it, too.
[17:44.320 --> 17:44.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: Tagalog?
[17:44.600 --> 17:45.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's right.
[17:45.620 --> 17:45.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: Ah.
[17:46.060 --> 17:49.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, you see, you know, that was, that was too much.
[17:49.320 --> 17:50.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: That is the Philippine language, right?
[17:51.120 --> 17:53.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, there's more than one, but that's the main one.
[17:53.000 --> 17:54.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's a Philippine language, yeah.
[17:54.720 --> 17:56.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: Um, I, I couldn't say it's not.
[17:56.000 --> 18:00.660]  [SPEAKER_03]: I honestly had the, had, had that as a, as a, as a guess, but it was down on my list.
[18:00.980 --> 18:01.220]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[18:01.500 --> 18:01.800]  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[18:02.940 --> 18:05.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: See how, um, you know, how, how, how, how challenging something like that could be.
[18:06.100 --> 18:06.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[18:06.720 --> 18:09.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'll, I'll, I'll give you another one to, to think about for a little while.
[18:09.600 --> 18:09.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[18:11.360 --> 18:13.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: And thanks to the person who sent this in, by the way.
[18:14.600 --> 18:15.840]  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, why don't you acknowledge them?
[18:17.000 --> 18:18.540]  [SPEAKER_03]: They specifically didn't want to be acknowledged.
[18:18.680 --> 18:18.820]  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh.
[18:20.500 --> 18:21.620]  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I know who it is then.
[18:28.900 --> 18:29.620]  [SPEAKER_22]: AT&T.
[18:30.000 --> 18:33.360]  [SPEAKER_22]: Xin bấm số khu vực và số điện thoại mà quý vị muốn gọi.
[18:34.060 --> 18:37.060]  [SPEAKER_22]: Nếu gọi ra ngoại quốc, xin bấm số không và số một trước.
[18:37.720 --> 18:42.540]  [SPEAKER_22]: Sau đó đến số của quốc gia, số của thành phố và của người ở địa phương đó.
[18:44.880 --> 18:45.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, okay.
[18:45.720 --> 18:46.000]  [SPEAKER_19]: Is that Klingon?
[18:46.320 --> 18:47.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: No, it's not Klingon.
[18:47.500 --> 18:48.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: Leo, you have a guess.
[18:48.500 --> 18:50.640]  [SPEAKER_19]: I'm guessing again Korean or Chinese.
[18:50.940 --> 18:51.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: You can't have two guesses.
[18:51.840 --> 18:52.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Guess one.
[18:52.260 --> 18:52.760]  [SPEAKER_19]: Okay, Korean.
[18:53.000 --> 18:53.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: No, you're wrong.
[18:54.380 --> 18:55.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: Jim, you had your hand up.
[18:55.340 --> 18:55.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: Will you just scratch it?
[18:56.040 --> 18:58.700]  [SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I, I was, I was, I was thinking, but now I'm not so sure.
[18:58.820 --> 18:59.060]  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[18:59.360 --> 19:00.360]  [SPEAKER_03]: Best, not the, best to be quiet.
[19:00.500 --> 19:01.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: And Mike, you actually have a guess.
[19:01.480 --> 19:01.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: Go ahead.
[19:01.640 --> 19:03.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'm going to say some variant of Chinese.
[19:04.660 --> 19:06.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, I think a lot of people would find that very insulting.
[19:07.000 --> 19:07.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: Right.
[19:07.640 --> 19:08.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right, okay.
[19:08.440 --> 19:10.860]  [SPEAKER_03]: Then I, I got to go with my guess, but it's got to be Vietnamese.
[19:11.040 --> 19:11.320]  [SPEAKER_03]: Very good.
[19:11.380 --> 19:11.740]  [SPEAKER_03]: You were right.
[19:11.800 --> 19:12.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: You were absolutely right.
[19:13.500 --> 19:14.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: Never doubt yourself, Jim.
[19:14.980 --> 19:15.280]  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[19:15.380 --> 19:16.200]  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that, that's true.
[19:16.280 --> 19:17.440]  [SPEAKER_03]: When I doubt myself, I, I.
[19:18.300 --> 19:22.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right, let's, let's look at a couple of, uh, listener, uh, pieces of mail.
[19:23.160 --> 19:25.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: And, um, let's see.
[19:25.460 --> 19:37.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: This person took exception to the fact that we mentioned, uh, the, uh, the typo to the, um, was ready.gov, uh, I mentioned, I knew somebody was going to be upset by this, uh, that, uh, you know, I said that someone had to get up and go to the office and fix it.
[19:37.480 --> 19:42.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: Obviously, this person, uh, you, you do know that, uh, technically is nonsense, right?
[19:43.000 --> 19:44.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, they, they could be running Apache on a Linux box.
[19:44.980 --> 19:46.060]  [SPEAKER_15]: They can deal with such things remotely.
[19:46.520 --> 19:50.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: The sad part is that what they can do may not be what they are aware of being able to do.
[19:50.600 --> 19:53.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: And some poor schmuck may actually have gone to the office to deal with it.
[19:53.540 --> 19:54.920]  [SPEAKER_15]: It brightens my day for some reason.
[19:55.040 --> 20:02.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: And that's why I said it, because I like to think of people getting up in the middle of the night and going to the office to fix something that they could fix online, you know, easily.
[20:02.360 --> 20:05.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: And I just think that that might be the way that they, they do things.
[20:05.740 --> 20:12.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, but of course, yeah, they can probably fix it online as could anybody probably, because I'm sure they have very easy to guess passwords in the first place.
[20:13.320 --> 20:21.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: Um, let's see, um, this person, uh, had, uh, had, uh, some comments on, uh, transporting large amounts of cash through airports.
[20:21.820 --> 20:21.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: Ah.
[20:22.140 --> 20:23.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: You might be interested in this, Jeff.
[20:23.880 --> 20:27.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, not that you're transporting large amounts of cash, but you are going through airports.
[20:28.300 --> 20:28.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: Jim?
[20:28.880 --> 20:29.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, not Jim.
[20:29.600 --> 20:29.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: I could get lucky.
[20:30.100 --> 20:30.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: Jeff, I'm sorry.
[20:31.380 --> 20:40.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: Um, listening to your, uh, talk on, uh, March 5th, which is last week, and your discussion about cash through an airport, yes, more than $10,000 is illegal.
[20:40.460 --> 20:48.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: However, not only is it illegal, but you are liable to have money confiscated, uh, you are liable to have that money confiscated, and never get it back.
[20:48.240 --> 20:48.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, yeah.
[20:48.820 --> 20:59.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: A TV magazine did a story about this on a man who had a landscaping and plant business, uh, who had around $12,000 in his possession in cash when going through an airport within the U.S.
[20:59.400 --> 20:59.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: Mm-hmm.
[20:59.980 --> 21:05.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, the Feds, um, um, doesn't remember what department they were exactly, they confiscated the money.
[21:06.240 --> 21:08.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, the show investigated this man and his claims.
[21:08.080 --> 21:11.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: They found his business is legitimate, and he was traveling for his business.
[21:11.520 --> 21:19.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: Um, the Feds, uh, related, they assumed that he was carrying cash for a drug purchase and said that they did not have to give the money back.
[21:19.480 --> 21:19.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: Mm-hmm.
[21:19.980 --> 21:20.160]  [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
[21:20.220 --> 21:25.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: What, what logic, what possible logic dictates that they don't have to give money back that was legitimately obtained?
[21:25.840 --> 21:26.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let me explain that.
[21:26.380 --> 21:33.480]  [SPEAKER_19]: It was the DEA, and their logic is that the forfeiture laws allow them to keep, am I, is the mic on?
[21:33.820 --> 21:33.980]  [SPEAKER_19]: Okay.
[21:34.320 --> 21:42.620]  [SPEAKER_19]: And, uh, and the law, the forfeiture laws allows them to keep what they can consider to be evidence of a crime even without, without arresting you even.
[21:42.820 --> 21:46.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, yeah, but the point was he was proven to be not involved in the crime.
[21:46.600 --> 21:50.560]  [SPEAKER_19]: They can, they can confiscate your property without arresting you and not give it back.
[21:51.020 --> 21:57.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but, uh, but, I mean, the guy was, was, was proven not to have...
[21:57.280 --> 22:06.720]  [SPEAKER_19]: That's what I mean, that's, uh, usually, uh, that case is mentioned during criticisms of forfeiture laws which allow the government to take property without arresting you.
[22:06.720 --> 22:13.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: Not from innocent people, from people they may not have arrested yet, people they're investigating, yes, but when the investigation is over...
[22:13.000 --> 22:15.560]  [SPEAKER_19]: But there's no, there's no, nothing that says that they have to arrest you.
[22:16.080 --> 22:17.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, this is ridiculous.
[22:17.740 --> 22:22.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: This flies in the face of every, every conceivable law I can think of.
[22:22.200 --> 22:23.460]  [SPEAKER_19]: But so do a lot of other laws.
[22:23.580 --> 22:24.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, this is, this is insane.
[22:25.020 --> 22:36.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: You're saying if you go in there, you, you take $12,000 out of your bank account and you, you decide to carry it to another city, that the federal government is going to take that from you and not give it back.
[22:36.760 --> 22:37.260]  [SPEAKER_19]: But they could.
[22:37.840 --> 22:40.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, they have the right to and they don't have to give it back to you.
[22:41.320 --> 22:42.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: Regardless, this is your life savings.
[22:42.940 --> 22:46.220]  [SPEAKER_15]: This is something that you had absolutely nothing to do with, uh, drugs or anything like that.
[22:46.820 --> 22:48.040]  [SPEAKER_19]: Well, constitutionally, it's illegal.
[22:48.440 --> 22:50.100]  [SPEAKER_19]: I mean, they don't follow the constitution.
[22:50.340 --> 22:50.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, I just...
[22:51.720 --> 22:52.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yes, it's disgusting.
[22:52.600 --> 22:59.060]  [SPEAKER_15]: Call me, you know, naive or something, but, um, I just, I just find that very hard to believe that that can actually be allowed to happen.
[22:59.300 --> 23:01.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: And, uh, let's see if it's true.
[23:01.560 --> 23:11.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, I don't know anybody who has more than $10,000, but, uh, if, if there is anybody out there that does, please, you know, maybe put a sign on you saying, I'm carrying more than $10,000 in cash and see what happens.
[23:11.700 --> 23:13.200]  [SPEAKER_12]: Well, then someone else might take it from me.
[23:13.220 --> 23:14.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, someone else, yeah, there's always that possibility.
[23:14.700 --> 23:18.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: But, uh, maybe you should carry, like, several different packages then, just in case.
[23:18.440 --> 23:27.100]  [SPEAKER_19]: I've heard rumors that there's a, uh, uh, this device that scans the magnetic strips inside, uh, dollar bills, as in, more than $1,000.
[23:27.320 --> 23:28.500]  [SPEAKER_19]: So when you walk through the...
[23:28.500 --> 23:32.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, I've heard that rumor a million times that, uh, you know, they can track who has a lot of money and who doesn't.
[23:32.700 --> 23:34.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: But, uh, you know, show me it in, in practice.
[23:35.160 --> 23:37.180]  [SPEAKER_15]: And, um, and, you know, I'll, I'll believe it then.
[23:37.920 --> 23:39.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: Um, Jeff, what do you think about that?
[23:40.300 --> 23:40.840]  [SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
[23:40.840 --> 23:44.960]  [SPEAKER_10]: I, I, I don't think anyone should have their money taken from them, but you gotta stop and think.
[23:45.180 --> 23:48.380]  [SPEAKER_10]: If you can walk around with $12,000 cash, you probably won't miss it.
[23:49.360 --> 23:50.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's not entirely true.
[23:50.640 --> 23:51.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, there have been cases.
[23:52.060 --> 23:58.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: In fact, I had conversations with my friend, Rob, over in Amsterdam, because we both published magazines, uh, back, uh, you know, this was in the early 90s.
[23:59.500 --> 24:06.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: And back then, for some reason, I don't know why we, we did things this way, but we would pay for it in cash as far as, uh, getting the thing printed.
[24:06.980 --> 24:10.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, you know, various printers back then seemed to, seemed to prefer it that way.
[24:10.740 --> 24:17.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, and so you would actually be walking around with like, you know, 10 or $20,000 in cash for, you know, at least a few minutes.
[24:18.480 --> 24:31.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: And it was, it was pretty, uh, nerve wracking doing that, but there are legitimate reasons for, for actually walking around with that amount of cash with, you know, I mean, what drug dealers could take checks, I'm sure, you know, they could just say it's for something else.
[24:32.220 --> 24:33.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: They could do that.
[24:33.360 --> 24:36.220]  [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, there's all kinds of, you know, money orders, there's all kinds of possibilities.
[24:36.380 --> 24:36.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: Credit cards.
[24:38.000 --> 24:40.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know, if anyone's had this experience, I'd just like to know.
[24:40.620 --> 24:47.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's, um, and you know, you, you must get something back when they take that amount of money, they must give you a receipt saying, we took $12,000 from you.
[24:48.020 --> 24:50.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, I just would like to see one of those receipts someplace.
[24:50.480 --> 24:52.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: I doubt they just rob you and, and don't leave you with anything.
[24:54.580 --> 24:56.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know, that's, uh, doesn't seem right.
[24:56.320 --> 24:56.420]  [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[24:56.460 --> 24:57.180]  [SPEAKER_10]: You're right.
[24:57.540 --> 24:57.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
[24:58.420 --> 24:59.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, what else do we have here?
[25:00.080 --> 25:04.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: Um, uh, oh yeah, the, uh, case of the, uh, stolen sandwich.
[25:04.800 --> 25:05.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: Have you heard about this?
[25:05.680 --> 25:05.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: No.
[25:06.480 --> 25:17.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, in Des Moines, Iowa, um, the Federal Transportation Safety Administration is dealing with, um, the case of Christine Woods, who says her sandwich was taken from a break room at the Des Moines airport.
[25:18.020 --> 25:21.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, the only ones who have access to the room are 16 federal security workers.
[25:21.600 --> 25:23.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: They have to punch a code into a keypad to get in.
[25:23.800 --> 25:34.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: Police Lieutenant David Huberty says the theft of a sandwich is still a theft, but he says if he were to send a detective to interview 16 people about it, it would be an inappropriate use of resources.
[25:34.640 --> 25:40.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: The woman whose sandwich is gone says she's afraid a wallet or purse could disappear next time.
[25:41.380 --> 25:42.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, God forbid, another sandwich.
[25:44.180 --> 25:48.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, you know, they found that kid today after God knows how long they were missing, so, you know, the sandwich could always turn up.
[25:48.860 --> 25:49.420]  [SPEAKER_15]: What kid?
[25:49.900 --> 25:51.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: The kid from Utah that was missing.
[25:51.640 --> 25:52.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: What kid?
[25:52.880 --> 25:53.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Somebody.
[25:53.600 --> 25:54.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know the name of the kid.
[25:55.040 --> 25:57.420]  [SPEAKER_15]: Some kid was missing from Utah for a bunch of months and they found it.
[25:57.560 --> 25:58.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: They found it today.
[25:58.140 --> 25:58.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: Smart Elizabeth Smart?
[25:58.820 --> 25:59.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, Elizabeth Smart.
[25:59.380 --> 25:59.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: They found it.
[25:59.680 --> 25:59.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: Really?
[26:00.140 --> 26:00.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: Alive?
[26:00.640 --> 26:01.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, alive.
[26:01.100 --> 26:01.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
[26:01.540 --> 26:01.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: Hallelujah.
[26:02.040 --> 26:03.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: And she was mad, too.
[26:04.620 --> 26:06.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: She was mad that nobody found her up until now.
[26:07.040 --> 26:07.880]  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be mad, too.
[26:07.960 --> 26:08.100]  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[26:08.940 --> 26:11.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: She was, like, hiding in the bushes outside her parents' house.
[26:11.160 --> 26:13.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, because she didn't think they were taking her seriously enough.
[26:13.640 --> 26:14.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, this is not funny.
[26:14.440 --> 26:15.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: No, it's not funny.
[26:19.200 --> 26:20.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: A U.S.
[26:20.260 --> 26:25.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Army soldier accompanies Afghan workers inside the army base in Bagram, Afghanistan.
[26:25.280 --> 26:25.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: Why?
[26:26.880 --> 26:29.060]  [SPEAKER_15]: To plant the flag of cyberspace.
[26:29.240 --> 26:29.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's right.
[26:29.540 --> 26:33.920]  [SPEAKER_15]: Afghanistan has officially activated its .af, Internet domain name.
[26:34.100 --> 26:35.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: That happened on Monday.
[26:36.940 --> 26:39.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: And the effort, a joint collaboration between the U.N.
[26:40.220 --> 26:49.440]  [SPEAKER_15]: Development Program and the Afghan Ministry of Communications, marks a giant technological leap for a country where the Internet was banned for years during the former Taliban regime.
[26:49.740 --> 26:55.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: But it is likely to be a long time before the average, impoverished Afghan citizen will be able to afford to explore the new possibilities.
[26:56.460 --> 27:06.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: Equivalent to a country code for telephone numbers, the .af, Internet suffix, has now been reserved exclusively for private and official email and worldwide web users in Afghanistan.
[27:07.400 --> 27:13.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: Afghanistan is officially planting its flag in cyberspace, gaining full legal and technical control of the .af, Internet domain.
[27:14.440 --> 27:27.320]  [SPEAKER_15]: The .af domain was first registered with the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority in October 1997 by a private Afghan citizen named Abdu Razik, according to Amal Majan, an advisor to the Minister of Communications.
[27:28.540 --> 27:37.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: According to the IANA website, however, Razik later disappeared, and some services were halted to the .af domain.
[27:38.720 --> 27:40.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's probably in Cuba, I would guess.
[27:40.980 --> 27:43.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: All those people in Afghanistan disappeared while not there.
[27:43.940 --> 27:49.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Efforts to relaunch began again after the Taliban were ousted in a U.S.-led war in late 2001.
[27:49.700 --> 27:52.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: For Afghanistan, this is like reclaiming part of our sovereignty.
[27:53.060 --> 27:53.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: Must feel good, huh?
[27:54.400 --> 27:58.100]  [SPEAKER_03]: We should get a .af domain.
[27:58.640 --> 27:59.020]  [SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[27:59.020 --> 27:59.620]  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to think...
[27:59.620 --> 27:59.940]  [SPEAKER_03]: Why not?
[28:00.080 --> 28:02.140]  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to think of what we could spell.
[28:02.460 --> 28:07.780]  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, maybe the Air Force is interested in using it, since Afghanistan can't really use it right now.
[28:07.800 --> 28:08.500]  [SPEAKER_03]: I have an idea.
[28:08.800 --> 28:09.160]  [SPEAKER_03]: What's that?
[28:09.160 --> 28:13.000]  [SPEAKER_03]: g.af, and wait to be sued for cyber-squatting.
[28:15.080 --> 28:16.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, well, we don't have to wait very long for that.
[28:18.380 --> 28:24.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: Two Japanese people were arrested for allegedly hacking into bank accounts through the Internet and stealing $136,000.
[28:26.160 --> 28:33.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: Police suspect 35-year-old Ko Hakata, his first syllable of his name is hack, isn't that something?
[28:33.340 --> 28:48.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: A former computer software developer who is now unemployed, and guru Nakahashi, his first syllable is NAC, a 27-year-old businessman, robbed the unidentified bank's accounts from a computer at a Tokyo cafe on September 18th.
[28:48.320 --> 28:53.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: They allegedly downloaded software from the Internet that detects what keys previous users of the computer punched.
[28:53.940 --> 28:58.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: They then figured out the passwords that five people had used to access their bank accounts online.
[28:58.220 --> 29:02.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: Who accesses their bank accounts online from an Internet cafe?
[29:02.700 --> 29:02.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: You do?
[29:03.040 --> 29:04.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, not from a cafe, no.
[29:05.140 --> 29:05.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[29:06.040 --> 29:08.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'd have serious doubts about your intelligence if you did that.
[29:08.600 --> 29:11.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yes, it's not a good idea to access personal...
[29:11.980 --> 29:18.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Even if you're using an encrypted connection, even if it's, you know, using a password, you know, you can still have a keystroke logger.
[29:19.120 --> 29:26.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: And unless you have control of the machine you are using, it's a very bad idea to trust that another machine is secure.
[29:26.340 --> 29:28.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: There's many ways that security can be breached, and that's just one of them.
[29:29.000 --> 29:42.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: Anyway, they transferred a total of $141,000 from those accounts to another bank, and using an alias, Nakahashi allegedly withdrew $136,000, and they tried to go to an airport.
[29:42.660 --> 29:47.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: Police refused to say when the two men, who haven't been charged, were detained.
[29:48.080 --> 29:54.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: They also would not comment on what happened to the $5,000 that was not withdrawn, saying only $136,000 had been stolen.
[29:54.680 --> 29:57.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: If charged with theft, they could face up to 10 years in prison.
[30:00.340 --> 30:11.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: And according to the Asahi newspaper, which is a major national daily, they say the two men allegedly tried to use about 100 computers at 13 different Internet cafes around Tokyo.
[30:12.900 --> 30:15.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: So, this involves Citibank, Japan, by the way.
[30:16.420 --> 30:18.360]  [SPEAKER_03]: That last makes very little sense.
[30:18.800 --> 30:20.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: What, that they were hopping around looking for victims?
[30:20.740 --> 30:21.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, okay.
[30:21.720 --> 30:26.240]  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the supposition that I assumed, but without that supposition, it makes very little sense.
[30:26.360 --> 30:26.540]  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
[30:28.100 --> 30:28.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: Interesting.
[30:29.860 --> 30:31.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, Jim, I got a question for you.
[30:31.580 --> 30:31.840]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh-oh.
[30:31.960 --> 30:34.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, you know about the hike and transit fares.
[30:34.780 --> 30:35.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yes, I do.
[30:35.120 --> 30:36.320]  [SPEAKER_15]: Which I'm pretty upset about.
[30:36.460 --> 30:36.920]  [SPEAKER_03]: I am, too.
[30:37.020 --> 30:38.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'm extremely upset by this.
[30:38.120 --> 30:42.180]  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, I'm sort of disassociated from them, as you've noticed.
[30:42.400 --> 30:42.700]  [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway.
[30:42.780 --> 30:45.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, yeah, you were expelled from them, I know.
[30:45.200 --> 30:48.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: But still, I hold you responsible because you are the transit connection here.
[30:48.700 --> 30:49.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, wait one moment.
[30:49.720 --> 30:50.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: Don't hold me responsible.
[30:50.500 --> 30:51.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, I'm sorry.
[30:51.400 --> 30:52.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's just the way it is.
[30:52.640 --> 30:53.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right, go on.
[30:53.440 --> 30:53.640]  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[30:53.800 --> 30:55.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's like being an American abroad.
[30:55.280 --> 30:56.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, you're going to be blamed no matter what.
[30:57.300 --> 30:59.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, I accept that analogy.
[30:59.260 --> 31:00.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, so here's the thing, all right?
[31:00.800 --> 31:02.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: The rates went up 33%.
[31:02.900 --> 31:04.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: The rates will go up, not have gone up.
[31:04.900 --> 31:06.420]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right, it may, May 1st or whatever.
[31:06.600 --> 31:09.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: They're going to go up 33%, 25% for commuter lines.
[31:09.840 --> 31:10.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yes.
[31:10.280 --> 31:10.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Unbelievable.
[31:12.320 --> 31:15.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, so rides will be $2 now instead of $1.50.
[31:15.660 --> 31:15.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: Right.
[31:15.740 --> 31:17.060]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, I can even live with that.
[31:17.100 --> 31:17.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: I really can.
[31:17.640 --> 31:18.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's not that bad.
[31:18.620 --> 31:19.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's bad, but it's not that bad.
[31:19.640 --> 31:24.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: What upsets me the most is what they did to the Fun Pass, which was $4.
[31:24.640 --> 31:28.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: $4, and, you know, with the rate of $1.50, three rides, it pays off.
[31:28.360 --> 31:30.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: They raised it from $4 to $7.
[31:30.740 --> 31:32.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, three rides, it still pays off.
[31:32.240 --> 31:32.440]  [SPEAKER_19]: Nope.
[31:32.680 --> 31:32.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: No.
[31:33.240 --> 31:33.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: Do your math.
[31:34.080 --> 31:34.940]  [SPEAKER_19]: Five rides, it pays off.
[31:34.980 --> 31:35.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh.
[31:35.300 --> 31:35.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: It takes four rides.
[31:36.000 --> 31:36.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: Four rides, right.
[31:36.900 --> 31:37.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
[31:37.460 --> 31:40.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: And, you know, that's a pretty steep...
[31:40.000 --> 31:41.920]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, $5 would have been more fair, I think.
[31:42.100 --> 31:42.960]  [SPEAKER_15]: Maybe even $6.
[31:42.980 --> 31:43.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: I could have seen $7.
[31:43.880 --> 31:45.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: But $7, that's just insane.
[31:45.960 --> 31:46.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's not nice.
[31:46.820 --> 31:48.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: But anyway, I have a question.
[31:48.240 --> 31:49.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: This is a technical question.
[31:49.020 --> 31:49.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[31:50.000 --> 31:50.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[31:50.700 --> 31:52.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: I have a Fun Pass now.
[31:52.340 --> 31:52.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yes.
[31:53.040 --> 31:59.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: If I don't use my Fun Pass until May, when the rate has gone up, will it still be a Fun Pass?
[31:59.760 --> 32:00.760]  [SPEAKER_15]: I believe it would.
[32:01.320 --> 32:01.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: Although...
[32:01.720 --> 32:02.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Hold on.
[32:02.320 --> 32:02.560]  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[32:02.980 --> 32:07.280]  [SPEAKER_03]: It would not be that difficult for them to turn it off.
[32:07.440 --> 32:08.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: How do they just turn it off?
[32:08.680 --> 32:10.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: And what does it become if they turn it off?
[32:10.300 --> 32:14.320]  [SPEAKER_15]: I buy a Fun Pass on good faith that I'm going to use it for a day pass.
[32:14.480 --> 32:17.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: It doesn't say I have to use it by a certain time or day.
[32:17.680 --> 32:20.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: If it's an expiration date on the back, which is about a year from now.
[32:20.720 --> 32:20.820]  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[32:20.920 --> 32:22.720]  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the expiration date of the card itself.
[32:22.880 --> 32:28.180]  [SPEAKER_03]: No matter what that card becomes, that card expires on that day and cannot be used in the turnstile.
[32:28.180 --> 32:32.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: So if I was to go out, say, and, you know, to either a news agent or to a machine...
[32:32.900 --> 32:33.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: This is why I don't think...
[32:33.720 --> 32:38.320]  [SPEAKER_15]: And buy a hundred of these things, would I be insured the $4 rate every day?
[32:38.380 --> 32:38.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[32:38.660 --> 32:47.540]  [SPEAKER_03]: This is why I don't believe that they're going to turn it off because they're going to have, unless they start now and clear it out totally, they're going to have stuff in the pipeline.
[32:47.680 --> 32:52.580]  [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to have stuff at non-MTA agents, newsstands and such, out there.
[32:52.580 --> 33:03.320]  [SPEAKER_03]: And they can't suddenly shut those off because there will be people who will have bought it without trying to get over, if you want to call it that.
[33:03.600 --> 33:05.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, they could do it with the machines pretty easily.
[33:05.680 --> 33:08.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: They could do something, you know, as far as...
[33:08.000 --> 33:13.640]  [SPEAKER_03]: They could easily determine what fun passes have been sold by a given time.
[33:14.140 --> 33:18.000]  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if they can do it so well as to do it midnight when they're increasing the fare.
[33:19.080 --> 33:32.560]  [SPEAKER_03]: But they could theoretically turn them all off and say card expired and just put in all the newspapers and on signs on the subway saying, take this card to a booth for $4 credit.
[33:32.860 --> 33:35.300]  [SPEAKER_03]: They could do that, but it would be bad publicity.
[33:35.620 --> 33:35.740]  [SPEAKER_16]: Yeah.
[33:36.120 --> 33:37.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: And wouldn't it be a breach of contract, too?
[33:38.080 --> 33:38.500]  [SPEAKER_12]: Wait, wait.
[33:38.620 --> 33:40.660]  [SPEAKER_12]: This whole plan is bad publicity.
[33:40.660 --> 33:42.000]  [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think that's their problem.
[33:42.120 --> 33:43.280]  [SPEAKER_12]: No, it would be even worse publicity.
[33:43.480 --> 33:46.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: And, you know, the same thing holds for monthly passes and weekly passes.
[33:46.140 --> 33:49.580]  [SPEAKER_03]: It would be bad publicity, it would be difficult to do, it would be annoying to do.
[33:49.660 --> 33:53.880]  [SPEAKER_03]: You have the cards in the pipeline, and like you said, it would probably be breach of contract.
[33:54.160 --> 34:01.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: Now, wouldn't it be advantageous for them if people suddenly, after hearing this show, rushed out and bought thousands of day passes and monthly passes and weekly...
[34:01.720 --> 34:03.540]  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they'd be getting all this money all of a sudden.
[34:03.580 --> 34:08.660]  [SPEAKER_03]: They'd be getting all the money all of a sudden, but they lose it from people not buying...
[34:08.660 --> 34:10.160]  [SPEAKER_03]: It's an investment, you know?
[34:10.260 --> 34:11.500]  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a loan, sort of.
[34:11.680 --> 34:12.780]  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but look at it this way.
[34:12.780 --> 34:15.900]  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's assume that you have people...
[34:15.900 --> 34:17.400]  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's assume a million are sold every day.
[34:18.420 --> 34:23.100]  [SPEAKER_03]: At $4, you get $4 million today, $4 million tomorrow, $4 million the next day.
[34:23.260 --> 34:27.020]  [SPEAKER_03]: Then all of a sudden it goes up to $7 million, $7 million, $7 million.
[34:27.760 --> 34:30.940]  [SPEAKER_03]: You do it the other way, you get a big splurge beforehand.
[34:31.800 --> 34:36.420]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, you get a sudden drop-off of ridership, which I think is what's going to happen because they raised the rates too much.
[34:36.420 --> 34:42.500]  [SPEAKER_03]: But you get a big incoming bunch of money, and then when it goes up, people...
[34:42.500 --> 34:49.040]  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't get the $7 million, you get maybe $1 million, $2 million, because most of those people will have bought it at the $4 rate.
[34:49.440 --> 34:52.040]  [SPEAKER_03]: So overall, it's not advantageous to them.
[34:52.160 --> 34:55.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's see what the official New York City transit position is, all right?
[34:55.840 --> 34:56.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's get it down to them.
[34:57.120 --> 34:58.180]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't think you're going to get anybody.
[34:58.680 --> 35:00.920]  [SPEAKER_19]: While you're dialing us in the pocket.
[35:07.060 --> 35:11.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: I can't believe I remembered that number, but that's the hotline for the MTA.
[35:12.240 --> 35:14.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Of course, you're going to have to deal with computers for a little while.
[35:16.960 --> 35:18.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: Maybe they haven't thought of this.
[35:18.360 --> 35:22.180]  [SPEAKER_11]: Welcome to the MTA New York City Transit travel information line.
[35:23.620 --> 35:29.600]  [SPEAKER_11]: For information regarding MTA New York City transit fare increases, please press 1 now.
[35:31.140 --> 35:32.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'm not going to do that.
[35:32.240 --> 35:33.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's probably just an announcement of some sort.
[35:34.140 --> 35:34.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[35:35.000 --> 35:39.100]  [SPEAKER_11]: For information about planned subway service detours, press 6.
[35:40.000 --> 35:40.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: No.
[35:40.780 --> 35:41.620]  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not right either.
[35:41.760 --> 35:42.980]  [SPEAKER_03]: What happened at 2, 3, 4, and 5?
[35:43.480 --> 35:43.880]  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[35:46.480 --> 35:46.880]  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[35:47.200 --> 35:51.980]  [SPEAKER_11]: If you continue your call with a Touch-Tone phone, please press the star key now.
[35:54.240 --> 35:56.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, I'm not going to do that, because he hasn't given me enough choices.
[35:57.100 --> 35:58.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: And what happens if you don't enter a Touch-Tone?
[35:58.580 --> 36:01.400]  [SPEAKER_08]: We will ask you to continue this call by responding to requests...
[36:01.400 --> 36:02.640]  [SPEAKER_08]: His voice went way down.
[36:02.640 --> 36:06.240]  [SPEAKER_08]: You must respond by clearly speaking each word after hearing a tone.
[36:06.460 --> 36:06.780]  [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, boy.
[36:06.900 --> 36:14.440]  [SPEAKER_08]: If you are asked to provide a series of numbers as part of your response, you should clearly pronounce each number of your response after hearing a separate tone.
[36:14.560 --> 36:15.300]  [SPEAKER_14]: Can we get on with this?
[36:15.380 --> 36:16.020]  [SPEAKER_08]: Main menu.
[36:16.160 --> 36:20.340]  [SPEAKER_08]: For subway and bus status information, speak the word 1.
[36:20.340 --> 36:21.520]  [SPEAKER_08]: At the tone.
[36:21.880 --> 36:25.980]  [SPEAKER_08]: For express bus schedule information, speak the word 2.
[36:26.320 --> 36:27.100]  [SPEAKER_08]: At the tone.
[36:27.180 --> 36:27.800]  [SPEAKER_08]: I have to wait for the tone.
[36:28.020 --> 36:31.520]  [SPEAKER_08]: For subway and bus fare information, speak the word 3.
[36:31.820 --> 36:32.620]  [SPEAKER_08]: At the tone.
[36:33.180 --> 36:34.000]  [SPEAKER_08]: I get it.
[36:34.120 --> 36:34.460]  [SPEAKER_08]: I get it.
[36:34.680 --> 36:36.520]  [SPEAKER_08]: Speak the word 4.
[36:36.760 --> 36:37.600]  [SPEAKER_08]: At the tone.
[36:37.740 --> 36:38.640]  [SPEAKER_16]: Who designs these things?
[36:38.640 --> 36:40.580]  [SPEAKER_08]: Please hold, and these options will automatically repeat.
[36:40.740 --> 36:43.020]  [SPEAKER_08]: Or speak the word 0 to speak with an agent.
[36:43.460 --> 36:43.940]  [SPEAKER_16]: Zero!
[36:45.120 --> 36:46.680]  [SPEAKER_08]: You have entered 0.
[36:46.940 --> 36:47.160]  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[36:47.360 --> 36:49.620]  [SPEAKER_08]: Please hold while we transfer your call to an agent.
[36:49.680 --> 36:50.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's also what I think of your system.
[36:51.480 --> 36:51.880]  [SPEAKER_01]: Unbelievable.
[36:53.160 --> 36:54.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: Who designs these systems?
[36:55.120 --> 36:56.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: They're so annoying.
[36:56.640 --> 36:57.380]  [SPEAKER_01]: Good evening, Sean.
[36:57.520 --> 36:58.300]  [SPEAKER_01]: Have you got a question?
[36:58.480 --> 36:59.060]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, hi.
[36:59.120 --> 36:59.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: I have a question.
[36:59.800 --> 37:01.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: I've got a bunch of day passes.
[37:02.700 --> 37:03.760]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't live in the city.
[37:03.900 --> 37:06.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: I actually spend most of my time over in Iowa.
[37:06.600 --> 37:10.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: And I was wondering, after May 1st, will those be any good?
[37:13.100 --> 37:14.080]  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's see.
[37:14.860 --> 37:16.700]  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, how many do you have in there?
[37:16.720 --> 37:18.320]  [SPEAKER_15]: I have, like, about four, maybe five.
[37:19.360 --> 37:20.620]  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me find out this for you.
[37:20.700 --> 37:21.400]  [SPEAKER_01]: Can I hold that in a minute?
[37:21.480 --> 37:22.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, I can hold.
[37:22.620 --> 37:23.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: Thank you.
[37:23.820 --> 37:25.220]  [SPEAKER_01]: Your call is important.
[37:25.520 --> 37:26.900]  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be with you momentarily.
[37:27.020 --> 37:28.220]  [SPEAKER_15]: I like how they emphasize is.
[37:29.040 --> 37:30.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: Because I thought it wasn't.
[37:31.420 --> 37:31.840]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[37:32.360 --> 37:33.180]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, they're going.
[37:33.820 --> 37:34.180]  [SPEAKER_15]: Iowa.
[37:34.620 --> 37:34.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: Ask this.
[37:34.880 --> 37:35.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: What's wrong with Iowa?
[37:35.960 --> 37:37.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: We have lots of listeners in Iowa.
[37:37.480 --> 37:38.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: You commute, huh?
[37:38.600 --> 37:40.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: I spend a lot of time there.
[37:40.020 --> 37:40.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's a nice place.
[37:42.100 --> 37:43.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: Iowa City is a great place, in fact.
[37:44.360 --> 37:44.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yes?
[37:45.240 --> 37:52.440]  [SPEAKER_19]: With the new Fun Pass rate, I mean, if you buy $10 worth of fares, you get one free.
[37:52.620 --> 37:53.120]  [SPEAKER_19]: Yes, that's true.
[37:53.180 --> 37:54.040]  [SPEAKER_19]: So, technically, it's five.
[37:54.320 --> 37:59.120]  [SPEAKER_19]: You need to go buy, well, it's five fares to save money with a Fun Pass.
[37:59.280 --> 38:00.480]  [SPEAKER_09]: We'll be with you momentarily.
[38:00.480 --> 38:00.980]  [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it's...
[38:00.980 --> 38:03.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: You have to be a mathematician to figure out what saves money these days.
[38:04.020 --> 38:07.940]  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you get 10% if you spend $10 starting with the fare increase.
[38:07.940 --> 38:10.060]  [SPEAKER_15]: All I know is $4 for a full day was a good deal.
[38:10.220 --> 38:11.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: $7 is not a good deal.
[38:11.320 --> 38:11.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: No.
[38:12.080 --> 38:14.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: You have to, like, know that you're going to be on the subways all day long.
[38:16.940 --> 38:19.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, we'll be taking phone calls, 212-209-2900.
[38:19.640 --> 38:22.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: We're going to give her a couple of minutes to get us an answer.
[38:22.640 --> 38:26.060]  [SPEAKER_15]: And if she fails in that task, then we're just going to go on without her.
[38:26.140 --> 38:26.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: I like the music.
[38:26.680 --> 38:27.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Music is good.
[38:27.760 --> 38:28.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, music is fine.
[38:29.780 --> 38:30.980]  [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for waiting.
[38:31.100 --> 38:31.600]  [SPEAKER_05]: Names and...
[38:31.600 --> 38:32.560]  [SPEAKER_05]: Your call is important.
[38:32.920 --> 38:34.380]  [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be with you momentarily.
[38:34.460 --> 38:57.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Social Security numbers of about 59,000 former and current students, faculty and staff members at the University of Texas were obtained by computer hackers between February 26th and last Sunday, according to a University of Texas administrator who said this on Wednesday night.
[38:58.200 --> 38:59.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Jeff, are you still on the line?
[38:59.480 --> 39:00.460]  [SPEAKER_10]: I'm still on the line.
[39:00.620 --> 39:02.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, I'm going to try pressing a button.
[39:02.220 --> 39:04.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: Tell me if my voice cuts out when I press this button.
[39:04.760 --> 39:05.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay?
[39:05.620 --> 39:05.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[39:06.280 --> 39:07.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: If you stop hearing anything.
[39:08.740 --> 39:10.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Are you still able to hear us?
[39:11.280 --> 39:12.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: Are you still able to hear me?
[39:12.280 --> 39:12.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't hear you.
[39:12.940 --> 39:13.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, good.
[39:13.460 --> 39:13.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[39:14.060 --> 39:15.420]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, what we did there.
[39:15.600 --> 39:17.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: Did you hear the whole signal cut out?
[39:17.160 --> 39:17.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: You heard nothing?
[39:18.140 --> 39:19.300]  [SPEAKER_10]: I heard the operator.
[39:20.160 --> 39:20.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[39:20.520 --> 39:21.220]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, you hear her.
[39:21.280 --> 39:21.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, that's good.
[39:22.140 --> 39:23.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: That way we can...
[39:23.200 --> 39:23.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: Sir?
[39:23.480 --> 39:24.360]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, yes, go ahead.
[39:24.420 --> 39:25.100]  [SPEAKER_01]: Convention for holding.
[39:25.340 --> 39:28.520]  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, after May 1st, you're not going to be able to use them.
[39:28.720 --> 39:30.520]  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a $7 spend pass.
[39:30.780 --> 39:35.620]  [SPEAKER_01]: So you have to either use them or send them back to MTA requesting a refund.
[39:35.920 --> 39:38.920]  [SPEAKER_15]: What's going to happen if I put it in the machine after May 1st?
[39:40.100 --> 39:41.800]  [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to be working.
[39:42.160 --> 39:43.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: Will they be worth $4?
[39:44.560 --> 39:44.960]  [SPEAKER_01]: $4?
[39:45.440 --> 39:46.080]  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be...
[39:46.600 --> 39:47.080]  [SPEAKER_01]: No, sir.
[39:48.100 --> 39:49.460]  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a unlimited pass.
[39:49.620 --> 39:49.920]  [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[39:49.920 --> 39:50.880]  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be...
[39:50.880 --> 39:53.300]  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be work after May 1st.
[39:53.360 --> 39:54.600]  [SPEAKER_01]: So you have to either...
[39:54.600 --> 40:02.200]  [SPEAKER_01]: You would have to either use them all, like before May 1st, or send them back requesting a refund.
[40:02.440 --> 40:05.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: Would I be able to go to the token booth and get a refund there?
[40:05.500 --> 40:05.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: No.
[40:06.100 --> 40:07.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, so I'll have to mail them all back.
[40:07.700 --> 40:08.660]  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, I can give the address.
[40:09.020 --> 40:09.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, go ahead.
[40:09.680 --> 40:10.760]  [SPEAKER_01]: It would be...
[40:11.420 --> 40:12.060]  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[40:12.420 --> 40:13.800]  [SPEAKER_01]: MTA New York City Transit.
[40:14.300 --> 40:14.740]  [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[40:17.660 --> 40:18.940]  [SPEAKER_01]: MetroCard Department.
[40:19.840 --> 40:20.420]  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[40:21.060 --> 40:23.580]  [SPEAKER_01]: And the address is 370 J Street.
[40:25.100 --> 40:25.740]  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[40:25.960 --> 40:26.680]  [SPEAKER_01]: 7th floor.
[40:27.040 --> 40:27.300]  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.
[40:28.000 --> 40:29.080]  [SPEAKER_01]: Brooklyn, New York.
[40:29.460 --> 40:29.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[40:30.440 --> 40:32.800]  [SPEAKER_01]: The zip is 11201.
[40:33.500 --> 40:34.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: 11201.
[40:34.240 --> 40:34.720]  [SPEAKER_01]: That's correct.
[40:35.040 --> 40:35.440]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[40:35.760 --> 40:36.020]  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[40:36.020 --> 40:37.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Thanks for the info.
[40:37.240 --> 40:37.860]  Thank you for calling.
[40:38.000 --> 40:38.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[40:39.500 --> 40:40.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, that...
[40:40.140 --> 40:41.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: You should have kept her on the line.
[40:41.580 --> 40:42.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: I have a question.
[40:42.420 --> 40:42.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, you should have asked.
[40:43.240 --> 40:43.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh.
[40:43.720 --> 40:44.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: You were waving around.
[40:44.600 --> 40:46.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: I didn't know if I was on fire or something.
[40:47.060 --> 40:48.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: What was your question?
[40:48.160 --> 40:49.320]  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you are wearing a red shirt.
[40:49.440 --> 40:52.920]  [SPEAKER_03]: The question is, I have a monthly, which expires five days after.
[40:53.620 --> 40:54.680]  [SPEAKER_03]: What are they going to do then?
[40:54.780 --> 40:56.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: This is the question that I have.
[40:56.720 --> 40:58.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, this is what, obviously, they would tell people.
[40:58.940 --> 41:01.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: They would tell people this because they don't want people hoarding the cards.
[41:01.780 --> 41:02.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: They don't tell people shit.
[41:03.380 --> 41:03.700]  [SPEAKER_03]: Whoops.
[41:04.380 --> 41:04.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
[41:04.860 --> 41:05.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: Thanks, Jim.
[41:06.820 --> 41:07.920]  [SPEAKER_15]: We're going to take phone calls.
[41:08.020 --> 41:09.480]  [SPEAKER_15]: 212-209-2900.
[41:09.500 --> 41:10.700]  [SPEAKER_12]: Speaking of ripoffs...
[41:10.700 --> 41:10.880]  [SPEAKER_12]: Yes.
[41:10.980 --> 41:14.520]  [SPEAKER_12]: ...I received a bill from the Sprint PCS telephone company.
[41:14.640 --> 41:15.460]  [SPEAKER_12]: You may have heard of them.
[41:15.660 --> 41:15.880]  [SPEAKER_12]: Mm-hmm.
[41:17.920 --> 41:21.300]  [SPEAKER_12]: For some of the texting that we've been discussing.
[41:21.740 --> 41:27.100]  [SPEAKER_12]: And the Sprint PCS policy is to charge me 39 cents per minute of the wireless web.
[41:27.260 --> 41:27.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
[41:27.780 --> 41:27.920]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
[41:28.000 --> 41:31.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: Now, that was the little experiment we had when I was over in Buffalo.
[41:31.980 --> 41:33.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: And we were sending text messages back and forth.
[41:33.700 --> 41:35.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: I got a bill about that, too.
[41:35.280 --> 41:39.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: Because we were sending messages both from T-Mobile to Sprint, back and forth.
[41:39.900 --> 41:48.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: And as it turns out, basically, if you use a GSM phone, you get charged for sending an SMS message.
[41:49.020 --> 41:52.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: And I think that's something like five cents, if not less.
[41:52.580 --> 41:57.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: However, when you use Sprint PCS, you have to log on to their wireless web, and that's a time thing.
[41:57.700 --> 42:02.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, you actually log on to the web, and they charge you per minute while you're composing a message.
[42:03.020 --> 42:03.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's insane.
[42:03.860 --> 42:05.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: And they rip people off for a lot that way.
[42:05.880 --> 42:07.840]  [SPEAKER_15]: So, yeah, I don't recommend it on Sprint.
[42:07.940 --> 42:08.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: I really don't.
[42:09.560 --> 42:09.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[42:09.960 --> 42:11.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: Offer number, 212-209-2900.
[42:12.340 --> 42:13.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's take some phone calls.
[42:13.440 --> 42:14.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Jeff, are you still there?
[42:14.580 --> 42:15.260]  [SPEAKER_10]: I'm still here.
[42:15.300 --> 42:16.300]  [SPEAKER_10]: And I wanted to make one comment.
[42:16.460 --> 42:16.580]  [SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
[42:16.580 --> 42:21.720]  [SPEAKER_10]: I actually found the music that you chose to start off with rather nice.
[42:21.920 --> 42:22.380]  [SPEAKER_14]: Well, thank you.
[42:22.880 --> 42:30.100]  [SPEAKER_10]: I think more people should, especially young kids, go and see a Clockwork Orange today, and let them see the parallels.
[42:30.840 --> 42:32.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, there are a lot of parallels.
[42:32.760 --> 42:39.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: Actually, you know, a bit of trivia, that was not from Clockwork Orange soundtrack, that was actually from a Kraftwerk CD, which starts with that.
[42:39.000 --> 42:45.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'm not quite sure how they got away with it, because it's obviously taken from the CD of Clockwork Orange, but it's on their CD anyway.
[42:46.220 --> 42:55.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: But, Jeff, I was experimenting with that button, because by pressing that button, I'm able to talk without the person on the other end hearing, which is good if you're talking about operators while you're on hold.
[42:56.280 --> 42:56.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: I see.
[42:56.880 --> 42:57.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: See?
[42:57.160 --> 43:02.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: So right now, when I press the button, I can talk about you, and you have no idea what I'm saying about you.
[43:02.240 --> 43:02.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: I hear nothing.
[43:02.860 --> 43:08.220]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, and you see, I can insult you now, I can make fun of you, I can mock you, and you'll never know.
[43:08.840 --> 43:11.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: And, Jeff, it's just so much fun having you on the show.
[43:13.800 --> 43:14.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, so you see how...
[43:14.940 --> 43:16.500]  [SPEAKER_10]: You're right, I heard, I did not hear that.
[43:16.620 --> 43:18.440]  [SPEAKER_10]: I'll have to wait until I get home and download it.
[43:18.620 --> 43:19.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh-oh, I forgot about that part.
[43:19.820 --> 43:20.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, we do...
[43:20.400 --> 43:20.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Ah!
[43:21.460 --> 43:23.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, Jims, you know what to do, edit that part out.
[43:25.460 --> 43:26.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[43:26.820 --> 43:27.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: 212-209-2900.
[43:28.060 --> 43:29.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's take some phone calls.
[43:29.260 --> 43:30.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: We'll get some more stories afterwards.
[43:31.000 --> 43:31.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Good evening, you're on the air.
[43:32.960 --> 43:33.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: Go ahead.
[43:33.560 --> 43:34.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yes, go ahead.
[43:34.880 --> 43:36.940]  [SPEAKER_02]: I was wanting to talk about...
[43:39.840 --> 43:41.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, I guess he chickened out.
[43:42.440 --> 43:43.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's not that frightening, folks.
[43:43.800 --> 43:44.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: You know, it's...
[43:44.240 --> 43:48.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, millions of people are listening, and millions more will listen in the future, but it's not that frightening.
[43:49.600 --> 43:50.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yes, good evening.
[43:50.280 --> 43:50.840]  [SPEAKER_15]: You're on the air.
[43:50.840 --> 44:11.580]  [SPEAKER_09]: Hi, I live near Westchester County Airport, and my son likes to watch the planes land and take off, and, well, I've been taking him to the airport every Saturday morning, and I park near the terminal, and he kind of like, on the south side of the terminal,
[44:11.800 --> 44:30.840]  [SPEAKER_09]: there's a rental car place, and you can walk through the rental car place, and there's a fence, just a fence that I bring from the tarmac, and he stands there, and I'm waiting for him in my car, kind of like at the edge of the terminal, you know, on the side road.
[44:30.940 --> 44:31.120]  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[44:31.360 --> 44:50.180]  [SPEAKER_09]: And the thing is, is that I deal in used computers, and Saturday morning, before I take him to the airport, I pick up a supply of computers, and while he's waiting for the planes, I'm going through the car, I'm going through the computers, and nobody has questioned it or anything.
[44:50.460 --> 44:53.820]  [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm standing there for about an hour and a half doing that.
[44:54.280 --> 45:04.020]  [SPEAKER_09]: And you'd think that with all the security and everything, and, you know, the wires and what's on the inside of the computer that someone would come over and ask what I'm doing.
[45:04.180 --> 45:06.120]  [SPEAKER_15]: Are you there, like, on a regular basis?
[45:06.400 --> 45:06.620]  [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[45:06.860 --> 45:07.840]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, maybe they recognize you.
[45:09.580 --> 45:09.980]  [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[45:10.180 --> 45:10.840]  [SPEAKER_15]: Is that possible?
[45:11.320 --> 45:13.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, they, you know, they might just know who you are.
[45:14.260 --> 45:17.020]  [SPEAKER_09]: Um, yeah, but I was never introduced or anything.
[45:17.260 --> 45:17.440]  [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh.
[45:17.580 --> 45:23.000]  [SPEAKER_09]: It's just puzzling that, um, that I could do it, especially with the high alert we just had.
[45:23.160 --> 45:30.060]  [SPEAKER_09]: They, um, there were more police there these past, uh, few Saturdays when the, uh, alert, uh, color was escalated.
[45:30.740 --> 45:34.280]  [SPEAKER_09]: And, uh, in fact, one of the roads was sealed off with roadblocks.
[45:34.560 --> 45:39.400]  [SPEAKER_09]: And, um, and they actually, like, looked into the car and looked in the trunk and they didn't say anything.
[45:41.680 --> 45:45.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, uh, you know, you might, uh, you might see that change.
[45:45.780 --> 45:46.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know.
[45:46.160 --> 45:47.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: I don't know what to say.
[45:47.260 --> 45:58.580]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, I mean, you know, it's possible that they actually, uh, you know, are looking at you but not questioning you, uh, which is, is what I think security should be, where they are looking at things but not bothering people.
[45:59.080 --> 46:04.180]  [SPEAKER_15]: Uh, or, you know, maybe they'll catch up to you someday and start, uh, you know, interrogating you about what you're doing.
[46:04.180 --> 46:04.820]  [SPEAKER_09]: Yep.
[46:05.640 --> 46:06.220]  [SPEAKER_09]: But, uh...
[46:06.220 --> 46:07.620]  [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I just, it's just strange.
[46:07.740 --> 46:08.640]  [SPEAKER_09]: I just thought I'd let you know.
[46:08.820 --> 46:09.040]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[46:09.380 --> 46:09.840]  [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, thanks.
[46:09.980 --> 46:10.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: Thanks.
[46:10.560 --> 46:12.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: 210-209-2900.
[46:12.280 --> 46:12.760]  [SPEAKER_15]: Good evening.
[46:12.960 --> 46:13.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: You're on the air.
[46:13.720 --> 46:14.280]  [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah.
[46:14.460 --> 46:17.520]  [SPEAKER_13]: I had a crazy thing happen to me at the airport.
[46:17.800 --> 46:19.760]  [SPEAKER_13]: I didn't know that... I had my ticket and everything.
[46:19.800 --> 46:23.040]  [SPEAKER_13]: I didn't know that, that you're forced to show ID.
[46:23.620 --> 46:32.420]  [SPEAKER_13]: And, and so I had in my carry-on luggage, I had thesis papers by students that I teach and a whole, just a bunch of paper, stuff like that.
[46:32.860 --> 46:37.420]  [SPEAKER_13]: And so I get to, the guy says to me, he goes, I can't let you on the plane because you don't have any ID.
[46:37.580 --> 46:40.740]  [SPEAKER_13]: And he said, I said, well, come on, I gotta get to Detroit.
[46:41.000 --> 46:44.820]  [SPEAKER_13]: And he said, well, what do you have to prove that you're not crazy or something?
[46:45.140 --> 46:50.480]  [SPEAKER_13]: So I said, well, I have, well, I have student theses in here.
[46:50.600 --> 46:54.700]  [SPEAKER_13]: And he said, why would you be carrying student feces?
[46:55.500 --> 46:57.500]  [SPEAKER_16]: Well, that's what I thought you said, too.
[46:58.000 --> 46:59.020]  [SPEAKER_13]: Well, that, but it was really...
[46:59.020 --> 47:00.620]  [SPEAKER_16]: You said thesis, T-T-H-E.
[47:00.980 --> 47:01.520]  [SPEAKER_13]: No, it was thesis.
[47:02.140 --> 47:02.380]  [SPEAKER_16]: Right.
[47:02.700 --> 47:16.380]  [SPEAKER_13]: And, and, and like, and it was one of those moments where the, the look on his face, I knew I couldn't laugh because he was dead serious and, and he wanted, and he wanted to, like, find Petri dishes in there or something.
[47:16.380 --> 47:16.780]  [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.
[47:16.920 --> 47:20.400]  [SPEAKER_13]: So I kind of had to, like, you know, take it very slow.
[47:20.460 --> 47:23.600]  [SPEAKER_13]: And I said, oh, no, no, these are papers written by students.
[47:23.780 --> 47:26.160]  [SPEAKER_13]: But then when I went, I, okay, so he put me on the plane.
[47:26.360 --> 47:29.980]  [SPEAKER_13]: Then the way back, that was all put into the computer.
[47:30.300 --> 47:30.520]  Uh-huh.
[47:30.620 --> 47:36.820]  [SPEAKER_13]: And I had to, like, go through, I had to have a whole bunch of people from the school that I had gone out to, to give the talk.
[47:36.920 --> 47:39.840]  [SPEAKER_13]: I had to get, to say that I wasn't crazy.
[47:40.960 --> 47:42.580]  [SPEAKER_16]: This is why, because you didn't have ID?
[47:43.200 --> 47:46.280]  [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, because I, I just had the ticket and I didn't have the ID.
[47:46.380 --> 47:46.620]  [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[47:46.820 --> 47:49.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: I think you have to show ID no matter what these days, don't you?
[47:49.940 --> 47:50.620]  [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, you do now.
[47:50.780 --> 47:50.920]  [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[47:51.060 --> 47:53.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'm surprised you got on at all if you didn't have any ID.
[47:53.640 --> 47:56.700]  [SPEAKER_13]: Well, it was the student theses help, I guess.
[47:56.780 --> 48:02.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, yeah, I guess if you go around carrying student theses, yeah, you'll be fine if you do that, but...
[48:02.720 --> 48:03.340]  [SPEAKER_13]: It was nuts.
[48:03.480 --> 48:07.320]  [SPEAKER_13]: That look he got in his face when he said it, I thought, uh-oh, I'm in trouble.
[48:09.180 --> 48:11.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, there's material there for a good sketch on Saturday night or something.
[48:12.320 --> 48:12.720]  [SPEAKER_13]: It was crazy.
[48:13.040 --> 48:13.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
[48:13.660 --> 48:14.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right, well, stay safe.
[48:14.960 --> 48:15.500]  [SPEAKER_13]: Okay, thanks.
[48:15.520 --> 48:15.860]  [SPEAKER_13]: Bye-bye.
[48:15.860 --> 48:17.740]  [SPEAKER_15]: 212-209-2900.
[48:17.800 --> 48:18.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's take some more phone calls.
[48:19.160 --> 48:19.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: And good evening.
[48:19.960 --> 48:20.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: You're on the air.
[48:22.080 --> 48:22.740]  [SPEAKER_20]: Yeah, hi.
[48:22.960 --> 48:23.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: Hi.
[48:23.520 --> 48:28.200]  [SPEAKER_20]: I wanted to know, do they ask Grandpa when he goes into the building there for ID?
[48:28.520 --> 48:30.040]  [SPEAKER_20]: Because everybody knows who he is.
[48:30.660 --> 48:31.620]  [SPEAKER_15]: In the building here?
[48:31.760 --> 48:32.080]  [SPEAKER_20]: Yes.
[48:33.360 --> 48:34.600]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, I don't know.
[48:34.760 --> 48:36.160]  [SPEAKER_16]: You know, it's a good thing to watch.
[48:36.640 --> 48:38.240]  [SPEAKER_20]: No, but anyway...
[48:38.240 --> 48:49.640]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's funny because, you know, we had a guy downstairs that was so anal about this that you would have to show your ID every time you came in, even if you came in every day, even if you came in three times a day, and he's no longer around.
[48:49.640 --> 49:00.920]  [SPEAKER_20]: Some of them, they're very cool, you know, but anyway, this thing about the gardener, this happened some years ago, way before 9-11, and I think he was black.
[49:01.460 --> 49:13.400]  [SPEAKER_20]: But the thing was that, I don't know if it was mentioned because I just got in, that the people there at the airport, they was the one, they get a cut from whatever it is that they confiscate.
[49:14.060 --> 49:15.280]  [SPEAKER_20]: Did you mention that or no?
[49:15.380 --> 49:17.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, I wasn't aware of that, that they get a cut.
[49:17.380 --> 49:17.620]  [SPEAKER_20]: Oh yeah, that's the point.
[49:17.820 --> 49:28.860]  [SPEAKER_20]: So then when you go, even if you're a drug dealer or whoever it is that has excess money apart from this legitimate person, because he wasn't buying plants and flowers, and you do need, you know, cash.
[49:29.360 --> 49:31.080]  [SPEAKER_20]: The other day, there was a gambler.
[49:31.080 --> 49:38.780]  [SPEAKER_20]: They stopped him, and he had a lot of money, but I think they, you know, he proved or something like that, and they didn't take his money.
[49:38.900 --> 49:43.380]  [SPEAKER_20]: But the thing with the airport is, and I heard either on B.A.R.
[49:43.420 --> 49:45.960]  [SPEAKER_20]: or another station, but I think, you know, it's always your station.
[49:46.940 --> 49:58.720]  [SPEAKER_20]: He bought the ticket for cash, so he pulled out the money, and then, you know, the eyes popped up, and then they, you know, they flagged him, literally, figuratively speaking, and that's how they took them.
[49:58.720 --> 50:10.540]  [SPEAKER_20]: And then, he's not the only one that, this has gone to court constantly with people who have a lot of money to fight this, you know, because these are, they are not the only person who's been caught by him, and everybody loses.
[50:11.140 --> 50:17.540]  [SPEAKER_20]: So, you know, you know, it's, what can I tell you, what kind of place it is that you can't carry money around.
[50:18.800 --> 50:28.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, you know, I like to organize something where, you know, people just use cash and nothing else for, like, maybe a month, and see just how crazy that makes everybody.
[50:28.900 --> 50:28.980]  [SPEAKER_20]: Right.
[50:29.100 --> 50:35.280]  [SPEAKER_20]: And it depends, you know, if you're from Arkansas and you pull out $1,000, maybe that's a whole lot of money, but in New York it wouldn't be.
[50:35.340 --> 50:39.120]  [SPEAKER_20]: I don't know, you know, because do they say how much can you carry?
[50:39.540 --> 50:40.660]  [SPEAKER_20]: That's what bothers me.
[50:40.760 --> 50:42.420]  [SPEAKER_20]: But it's a great show, and...
[50:42.420 --> 50:46.680]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, let's ask the Department of the Treasury, you know, say, how much money can I carry on the...
[50:46.680 --> 50:47.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: What's legal?
[50:48.180 --> 50:48.340]  [SPEAKER_20]: Right.
[50:48.480 --> 50:52.880]  [SPEAKER_20]: Except Bush's friends, they can carry millions of dollars offshore, not pay taxes.
[50:53.160 --> 50:54.540]  [SPEAKER_20]: There's no problem with that.
[50:54.680 --> 51:10.780]  [SPEAKER_20]: And the money that the CIA and the Pakistani government gave to the guy before they knocked down the towers, you know, the CIA guy who was over here, by the way, and he mailed that to one of the persons who knocked over the towers, and out of embarrassment they had to,
[51:10.860 --> 51:11.600]  [SPEAKER_20]: he quit.
[51:11.600 --> 51:20.920]  [SPEAKER_20]: So, I mean, that's, you know, open situation in terms of giving monies to people who happened two or three days later to knock over the...
[51:20.920 --> 51:23.500]  [SPEAKER_20]: Well, you know, millions, and there's no problem with that.
[51:23.640 --> 51:26.380]  [SPEAKER_20]: It's just the hardworking people who get shafted.
[51:26.500 --> 51:32.820]  [SPEAKER_20]: So I enjoy your show constantly, and I've seen you in Jersey and stuff like that, and you're real cool, and the other guy's there, too.
[51:33.040 --> 51:33.720]  [SPEAKER_16]: Okay, thanks.
[51:33.900 --> 51:39.760]  [SPEAKER_20]: And send in your money to WBAI, because otherwise, when they close the station, you won't be able to hear a program like this, people.
[51:39.980 --> 51:40.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
[51:40.420 --> 51:40.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: Thank you.
[51:40.660 --> 51:41.200]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, thanks.
[51:41.480 --> 51:41.720]  [SPEAKER_15]: Thanks.
[51:41.880 --> 51:43.440]  [SPEAKER_15]: It sounds like a mob is catching up to him.
[51:44.540 --> 51:44.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[51:45.300 --> 51:45.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: Jim, yes?
[51:46.540 --> 51:52.020]  [SPEAKER_03]: Just to act as the institutional memory here, we did talk about that landscaper years ago.
[51:52.020 --> 51:55.320]  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Fiber was still in jail at the time we mentioned it.
[51:55.840 --> 52:00.180]  [SPEAKER_03]: So if anybody wants to go back through the archives, feel free.
[52:00.360 --> 52:00.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, yeah.
[52:01.040 --> 52:03.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, carrying money has always been a dangerous thing.
[52:04.760 --> 52:05.300]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's see.
[52:05.460 --> 52:06.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: Is that relevant?
[52:06.380 --> 52:07.260]  [SPEAKER_15]: Because I want to take some more calls.
[52:07.600 --> 52:08.520]  [SPEAKER_19]: It's very fast.
[52:08.780 --> 52:09.100]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
[52:09.100 --> 52:20.120]  [SPEAKER_19]: It's basically, in Amarillo, Texas, I believe, the ASCAP, the American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers, are suing nightclubs for playing music.
[52:20.120 --> 52:21.560]  [SPEAKER_15]: For playing what music?
[52:23.020 --> 52:25.840]  [SPEAKER_19]: Music specifically by Lenny Kravitz and Madonna.
[52:26.480 --> 52:27.300]  [SPEAKER_19]: I agree with that.
[52:27.580 --> 52:33.440]  [SPEAKER_19]: But I'm saying that I've read that they're going after a crap load of nightclubs.
[52:35.000 --> 52:38.060]  [SPEAKER_19]: So now you have to get specific licenses to play certain music.
[52:38.880 --> 52:41.240]  [SPEAKER_15]: So if you play Lenny Kravitz or Madonna...
[52:41.240 --> 52:41.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: In a nightclub.
[52:42.060 --> 52:42.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: In a nightclub.
[52:42.800 --> 52:43.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: In a public space.
[52:43.520 --> 52:46.440]  [SPEAKER_15]: Someone other than the clientele are going to be upset at you.
[52:46.660 --> 52:46.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
[52:47.080 --> 52:47.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[52:47.660 --> 52:49.080]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, that's news.
[52:49.660 --> 52:51.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: 212-209-2900.
[52:51.340 --> 52:52.900]  [SPEAKER_15]: Let's take a couple more calls.
[52:53.140 --> 52:53.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: And good evening.
[52:53.880 --> 52:54.660]  [SPEAKER_15]: You're on the air.
[52:55.660 --> 52:56.460]  [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, excellent.
[52:56.800 --> 52:57.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: How you doing?
[52:57.480 --> 52:57.820]  [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[52:57.860 --> 52:58.940]  [SPEAKER_07]: Let me turn the radio down here.
[52:59.040 --> 52:59.220]  [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[52:59.320 --> 53:02.260]  [SPEAKER_07]: Now, regarding the airport, what can I answer for you?
[53:02.260 --> 53:03.160]  [SPEAKER_07]: Let me tell you something.
[53:03.480 --> 53:13.960]  [SPEAKER_07]: The most common item confiscated when they wand you and they're trying to bring on carry-on luggage, because I'm the person who goes up and empties the box of all the confiscated items.
[53:14.080 --> 53:14.340]  [SPEAKER_16]: Oh, really?
[53:14.520 --> 53:14.560]  [SPEAKER_16]: Cool.
[53:14.880 --> 53:18.480]  [SPEAKER_07]: And the most common item that's confiscated is cuticle scissors.
[53:19.240 --> 53:19.960]  [SPEAKER_14]: Is that so?
[53:20.020 --> 53:28.460]  [SPEAKER_07]: And down in our area, in our work area, there's a box that probably has about a couple thousand pairs of cuticle scissors.
[53:28.820 --> 53:31.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: Do you have a policy about Altoid boxes?
[53:31.140 --> 53:35.060]  [SPEAKER_15]: Because so many times, they have not opened my Altoid box, you know?
[53:36.220 --> 53:47.160]  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I think that goes along the lines of when a cop looks in the window of your car and stops you, and he sees like a little 35-millimeter gunnister, you know, that's where that fits in.
[53:47.540 --> 53:53.580]  [SPEAKER_07]: But, no, then the second most common item, I think, is probably a small pocket knife.
[53:53.580 --> 53:56.400]  [SPEAKER_07]: And the most common pocket knife is the little Swiss Army knife.
[53:56.620 --> 54:03.060]  [SPEAKER_07]: The smallest variety list price in the camera shop recently I checked in at was $17.60.
[54:03.980 --> 54:09.900]  [SPEAKER_07]: But they had models that ran $70 and $80, and I've seen those also confiscated.
[54:10.160 --> 54:11.980]  [SPEAKER_07]: So it's quite an item.
[54:12.120 --> 54:21.820]  [SPEAKER_07]: And then I would say the third most common item is the corkscrew remover, like you see a waiter would have at a restaurant where you open your wine bottle.
[54:22.000 --> 54:22.200]  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[54:22.200 --> 54:28.560]  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, the cork remover, that variety, with the little flip, you know, multi-purpose tool.
[54:29.980 --> 54:31.920]  [SPEAKER_07]: And let's see, what else might be in there?
[54:32.880 --> 54:36.280]  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, ordinary scissors, like cutting scissors, like you would use for paper.
[54:36.560 --> 54:37.640]  [SPEAKER_16]: Now, are you with TSA?
[54:38.540 --> 54:39.360]  [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no.
[54:40.000 --> 54:42.940]  [SPEAKER_07]: TSA puts it in a box, and then I go up there and empty the box.
[54:43.620 --> 54:44.460]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's what you do?
[54:44.640 --> 54:45.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: You empty the box?
[54:45.600 --> 54:46.880]  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's not my only job.
[54:47.120 --> 54:47.840]  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I'm crazy.
[54:47.920 --> 54:49.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, I wouldn't want to belittle your job, but...
[54:49.700 --> 54:53.140]  [SPEAKER_15]: I'm just wondering, why can't TSA do that?
[54:53.440 --> 54:54.380]  [SPEAKER_15]: Why can't they empty the box?
[54:56.260 --> 55:03.760]  [SPEAKER_07]: I guess because George Bush is looking at them, like, you know, big brother John Ashcroft is sleeping over their shoulders, you know, they're not allowed to be good, you know.
[55:04.220 --> 55:18.240]  [SPEAKER_07]: And then, let's see, okay, now, the area where they check your luggage, they use a very powerful x-ray machine, and it actually can show the stripes on the money.
[55:19.080 --> 55:19.520]  [SPEAKER_15]: Really?
[55:19.700 --> 55:20.320]  [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[55:20.520 --> 55:22.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: It can show it, but can it read it?
[55:22.240 --> 55:24.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: Can it detect that a lot of stripes are there?
[55:25.560 --> 55:26.040]  [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[55:26.040 --> 55:28.980]  [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know exactly what the picture looks like.
[55:29.940 --> 55:48.320]  [SPEAKER_07]: If you probably got into it, they can store the pictures in memory, so I'm certain that they have some recordings of, you know, samples that they have detected, but they can detect bundles of bills, and those bags, of course, don't open up, you know.
[55:48.320 --> 55:52.580]  [SPEAKER_07]: And then the interesting thing is, when the luggage comes through, let's say there's a knife in the luggage, okay?
[55:53.440 --> 55:55.820]  [SPEAKER_15]: We've got to make this fast, we're down to our last 30 seconds.
[55:56.120 --> 55:57.840]  [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, well, it shows it in profile.
[55:57.840 --> 56:05.420]  [SPEAKER_07]: No matter which way the knife is orientated in the luggage, the computer within the x-ray machine always shows it in a profile, so it sticks out like a sore thumb.
[56:05.420 --> 56:05.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: Mm-hmm.
[56:06.920 --> 56:07.620]  [SPEAKER_07]: And, uh...
[56:07.620 --> 56:12.280]  [SPEAKER_15]: What's the weirdest thing someone has tried to bring through, that you remember?
[56:12.620 --> 56:15.500]  [SPEAKER_15]: I heard some guy had a trailer hitch confiscated.
[56:17.120 --> 56:21.300]  [SPEAKER_07]: No, I, you know, the wanding area, or...
[56:21.300 --> 56:21.560]  Mm-hmm.
[56:22.540 --> 56:22.980]  [SPEAKER_07]: I...
[56:23.940 --> 56:24.920]  [SPEAKER_07]: Gee, I don't know.
[56:25.900 --> 56:27.320]  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I mean, you'd have to...
[56:27.320 --> 56:29.700]  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, we'd have to get the guy to call in from the...
[56:30.580 --> 56:45.220]  [SPEAKER_07]: The strangest thing, an Egyptian who was in charge of the machine, a student, an Egyptian student, a hero with a green card with a working permit, in charge of the machine, x-raying all the baggage that was going through the conveyor system.
[56:46.060 --> 56:47.520]  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's probably the weirdest.
[56:47.940 --> 56:48.720]  [SPEAKER_07]: That was weird?
[56:49.020 --> 56:51.120]  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you know, before the TSA took over.
[56:51.340 --> 56:51.540]  [SPEAKER_16]: Okay.
[56:52.120 --> 56:52.460]  [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[56:52.660 --> 56:53.980]  [SPEAKER_16]: Why was that weird?
[56:54.420 --> 56:59.920]  [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it wasn't weird to me, but, I mean, it would be weird to, you know, some fanatic like Ashcroft.
[57:00.060 --> 57:00.920]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, yeah, I guess so.
[57:01.080 --> 57:01.540]  [SPEAKER_15]: I guess so.
[57:01.540 --> 57:01.700]  [SPEAKER_15]: No.
[57:02.220 --> 57:02.860]  [SPEAKER_15]: Good point.
[57:03.280 --> 57:04.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: Anyway, listen, thanks for the call.
[57:04.760 --> 57:05.420]  [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, bye-bye, Don.
[57:05.420 --> 57:07.340]  [SPEAKER_15]: And thanks for giving us that information.
[57:07.480 --> 57:11.880]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's fascinating stuff, and proof that BI listeners are all over the place.
[57:12.820 --> 57:13.940]  [SPEAKER_15]: That's it for us this week.
[57:13.940 --> 57:15.400]  [SPEAKER_15]: We'll be back again next week.
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[57:41.140 --> 57:43.020]  [SPEAKER_15]: Jeff, see you here in the studio next week?
[57:43.540 --> 57:44.500]  [SPEAKER_10]: That's my plan.
[57:44.640 --> 57:46.100]  [SPEAKER_10]: Thanks for letting me play this week.
[57:46.260 --> 57:46.780]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right, then.
[57:46.820 --> 57:47.000]  [SPEAKER_15]: It's interesting.
[57:47.220 --> 57:48.160]  [SPEAKER_15]: Well, we'll see you then.
[57:48.600 --> 57:48.800]  [SPEAKER_15]: All right.
[57:48.800 --> 57:49.980]  [SPEAKER_15]: For everybody else, have a good night.
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