WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.980 Get ready to rock the planet. 00:06.420 --> 00:08.000 Get ready. 00:20.000 --> 00:24.300 Digital Dogpong presents Binary Revolution Radio. 00:24.300 --> 00:26.000 Now launch the base. 00:30.000 --> 00:40.340 Get ready to rock the planet. 00:48.000 --> 00:49.880 Now go planet. 00:51.100 --> 00:52.240 Now go system. 00:53.240 --> 00:54.300 Now go system. 00:54.300 --> 00:54.360 Now go system. 00:54.360 --> 00:54.860 Now go system. 01:00.000 --> 01:06.340 Get ready to hack the planet. 01:09.340 --> 01:10.840 Hack the planet. 01:12.500 --> 01:13.660 Hack the system. 01:14.460 --> 01:15.400 Hack us unite. 01:17.140 --> 01:17.920 Get ready. 01:17.920 --> 01:47.900 We'll be right back. 01:47.920 --> 02:17.900 We'll be right back. 02:17.920 --> 02:47.900 We'll be right back. 02:47.920 --> 03:17.900 We'll be right back. 03:17.900 --> 03:47.880 We'll be right back. 03:47.900 --> 04:17.880 We'll be right back. 04:17.880 --> 04:47.860 We'll be right back. 04:47.860 --> 04:57.080 When I tell you we just hacked out Jones and NASDAQ, leave you flat on your back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack. 04:57.080 --> 05:08.080 This is dedicated to the hackers and crack. 05:08.080 --> 05:14.800 Good evening, good evening ladies and gentlemen, hackers and crackers, freaks and geeks. 05:14.800 --> 05:25.600 You are listening to Binary Revolution Radio episode 20, originally aired on November 18th, Tuesday in 2003. 05:25.600 --> 05:32.680 And that's the first time I think I've ever opened the show by actually stating the date, the original air date. 05:32.680 --> 05:38.620 So we're breaking new ground today, but when it comes to guest hosts, we're breaking old ground. 05:38.760 --> 05:48.960 We're bringing back one of our favorite guests and longtime co-host of Radio Freak America, the one and only Bland Inquisitor. 05:48.960 --> 05:52.320 I'm here. I'm here. I'm queer. Deal with it. 05:53.640 --> 06:02.300 You know, you set me up with outtakes like that. I mean, I gotta save that for a clip show or like that little gag I played on Duel that one time. 06:02.860 --> 06:05.220 Oh, yeah, about the old protein shot. 06:05.380 --> 06:12.020 Yeah, I might have to just save that one and, um, matter of fact, I might just go out in the street and record some other good stuff to go along with it. 06:13.300 --> 06:21.380 Yeah. Anyway, as we said, this is Binary Revolution Radio episode 20 and we do have an action-packed show today. 06:21.900 --> 06:24.660 We really do. We got a lot of stuff to hit this week. 06:24.660 --> 06:33.700 Um, first of all, I think I'm going to go ahead and bring up our distributed.net team. 06:34.460 --> 06:40.720 We have been around, I think, 20, 21 strong now for a month or two at least. 06:41.260 --> 06:43.520 Everybody pitching in a little bit here and there. 06:43.520 --> 06:48.840 Um, I know In Theory's been putting up some huge numbers and may overtake me in the standings, 06:48.900 --> 06:52.400 and I've been doing it for several months longer than him, and he's putting up some big numbers. 06:52.400 --> 06:57.740 Um, but even if you can't put up a lot, even if you don't have multiple machines to put to it, 06:58.460 --> 07:00.900 just, um, put it on even whatever machine you got. 07:00.960 --> 07:04.560 And even if you only upload once a month or once every couple weeks, every little bit helps. 07:04.980 --> 07:12.220 We are, last I checked, which was a couple days ago, I think we were around 325th place or something like that, 07:12.300 --> 07:15.160 which is right up there with a lot of other people. 07:15.260 --> 07:20.780 There's a lot of computing power, even though it's several of us who only use it on our computers at home. 07:20.780 --> 07:25.700 So, we have enough people now that we're actually climbing in the rankings slowly but surely. 07:26.520 --> 07:29.660 Where in the past, we had been slowly falling a few times. 07:29.740 --> 07:34.040 We're actually climbing maybe one, let one or two points each week or two. 07:34.040 --> 07:44.340 So, if you haven't already, go to distributed.net, and there's actually a link on the front page of binrev.com, 07:44.400 --> 07:47.560 and there's plenty of information in the Stank Dog Forums and the Dog House. 07:48.060 --> 07:52.680 You can check out, there's a special thread for it to get information on setting it up or help or anything like that. 07:52.680 --> 07:56.940 But, join Team DDP and let's crack those keys. 07:58.340 --> 08:05.000 Now, excuse me for coughing on the radio, but we got an email also from Byte Stealer. 08:05.160 --> 08:06.780 Very cool name, I like that a lot. 08:07.300 --> 08:14.580 He reminded me, see last week, Bland, we, Rax and I, did our Matrix special. 08:14.580 --> 08:21.300 And I know you haven't listened to it yet, but we talked about the Matrix and what we thought about the movie. 08:21.380 --> 08:22.680 And actually, I think we were in conjunction. 08:22.940 --> 08:25.140 I think, if I remember right, you liked it a lot, too. 08:25.660 --> 08:26.200 I loved it. 08:26.280 --> 08:27.400 It was one of the best movies ever. 08:27.580 --> 08:29.080 Yeah, see, I thought it was really cool, too. 08:29.140 --> 08:30.980 I liked it a lot, and so did Rax. 08:31.020 --> 08:34.400 And that was what last week's episode was mainly about. 08:34.500 --> 08:35.800 That's what the main topic was. 08:35.800 --> 08:46.580 And so we talked about a lot of things and how immersive it is and how many things that it entails as far as movies and video games and anime and blah, blah, blah. 08:47.020 --> 08:52.340 Well, Byte Stealer emailed and reminded me that I also left out the Matrix online comic. 08:53.040 --> 08:54.580 They actually have an online comic. 08:54.720 --> 08:56.440 And there's probably a printed one as well. 08:57.120 --> 09:03.000 I don't know for sure if they have a printed comic, but I would imagine a big title like that, 09:03.000 --> 09:06.460 a big headline grabber like Matrix would probably sell comics as well. 09:07.280 --> 09:07.940 Are there novels? 09:08.060 --> 09:08.660 Do they have books? 09:10.000 --> 09:11.800 No, I've never seen any of them. 09:11.900 --> 09:13.260 Do they have any fiction novels? 09:13.860 --> 09:17.400 No, I think if they didn't, they should. 09:17.500 --> 09:22.480 But I think they made a graphic novel of the first movie. 09:24.080 --> 09:24.520 Hmm. 09:25.200 --> 09:26.000 Well, and you know what? 09:26.260 --> 09:30.320 Now, if the movies are done, which, again, we can only assume they are, 09:30.320 --> 09:36.780 if the movies are done, there are a lot of, boy, I coughed right on the microphone again, 09:37.600 --> 09:45.600 there are a lot of loose ends and a lot of stories that they can clean up and tie up now through novels. 09:45.820 --> 09:48.080 And like all of the characters that they've introduced, 09:48.600 --> 09:56.900 they can easily follow up on them with books or novels or even, you know, follow the ships or something in their crew. 09:56.900 --> 10:02.860 There's really a lot of different, there's a lot of fiction, a lot of science fiction that can be written in novels from this 10:02.860 --> 10:04.880 that can branch off and then be in the Matrix world. 10:05.580 --> 10:14.100 And let me just add here that I have two favorite villains in all of film and literature and all of that. 10:14.860 --> 10:16.900 My two favorite villains are... 10:18.040 --> 10:19.120 The Wicked Witch. 10:19.120 --> 10:20.120 No, no, no. 10:20.480 --> 10:23.440 They are Zorg from The Fifth Element. 10:25.960 --> 10:28.120 He is just, he is a great villain. 10:28.540 --> 10:28.980 Zorg? 10:29.760 --> 10:30.280 Yeah. 10:30.460 --> 10:31.640 Is that the one Chris Tucker played? 10:32.020 --> 10:32.740 Oh, no. 10:33.580 --> 10:35.320 That's the one that Gary Oldman played. 10:36.620 --> 10:37.140 Right. 10:37.540 --> 10:38.520 Oh, yeah. 10:39.140 --> 10:40.240 Okay, I gotcha. 10:40.600 --> 10:43.080 He is my favorite villain of all time. 10:43.760 --> 10:47.860 My second favorite villain of all time is definitely the Merovingian. 10:47.860 --> 10:51.180 I don't know if he was really a villain. 10:51.840 --> 10:55.420 Yeah, but he, well, he still, he played an adversarial role. 10:55.660 --> 10:56.340 I mean, definitely. 10:57.880 --> 10:58.820 And, you know... 10:58.820 --> 10:58.840 I don't know. 10:58.920 --> 11:02.060 I don't know if I would go, I don't know if I'd go so far as to call him a villain. 11:02.220 --> 11:07.620 He just had, he was a, he wasn't the nicest of guys doing his trade that he had. 11:07.660 --> 11:10.940 But I think he was, I don't know, I guess, yeah, I guess kind of. 11:11.360 --> 11:12.420 I guess I can see that. 11:13.100 --> 11:16.340 He just, he has that quality that, uh... 11:16.340 --> 11:17.260 He was a businessman. 11:17.820 --> 11:19.300 Yeah, and that's what's so awesome. 11:19.380 --> 11:26.040 It's like, it's almost like a really, really off juxtaposition of, of, uh, Al Pacino and the Godfather. 11:26.640 --> 11:34.220 I mean, you know, you're a businessman, but you are just really tearing things up in ways people don't understand, you know? 11:34.220 --> 11:36.600 Yeah, exactly, exactly. 11:37.440 --> 11:39.440 Um, and he made some mean pie. 11:40.140 --> 11:41.380 Oh, he made some hecka pie. 11:41.600 --> 11:41.780 Yeah. 11:42.120 --> 11:42.900 Ooh, hecka. 11:42.960 --> 11:45.920 I like, see, I was, I was almost going to go with that, but... 11:45.920 --> 11:47.860 He made some mean pie. 11:47.920 --> 11:48.700 That's all I got to say. 11:49.700 --> 11:50.020 Yowza. 11:50.380 --> 11:50.620 Yeah. 11:52.120 --> 11:52.840 You know what? 11:53.380 --> 11:56.860 They're funnier, even without the squaring, because we have to go with all these other words. 11:56.920 --> 11:57.660 I think it's funnier. 11:57.700 --> 11:58.700 I think it's funnier this way. 11:58.940 --> 12:00.000 Yeah, it is pretty funnier. 12:00.020 --> 12:01.580 You have to really expand your vocabulary. 12:01.820 --> 12:02.140 Exactly. 12:02.560 --> 12:03.860 I'm getting better, I have to say. 12:04.020 --> 12:05.560 I'm going to make it through this episode again. 12:05.640 --> 12:09.240 I made it last week without it, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. 12:10.000 --> 12:13.580 And, um, anybody listening to the live stream might think otherwise. 12:13.820 --> 12:14.260 Hint, hint. 12:15.300 --> 12:20.440 Um, but, I think I'm going to make it. 12:20.440 --> 12:22.480 I got some stuff up here that might get me stirred up. 12:22.620 --> 12:24.640 I'm going to try to control it, but I think I can make it again. 12:24.740 --> 12:25.520 We'll, I guess we'll see. 12:26.320 --> 12:30.020 Um, so that was it for the email this week. 12:30.020 --> 12:33.820 Actually, I did, I got a few emails of people saying they, they agreed, they felt the same 12:33.820 --> 12:36.880 way about the Matrix, and, uh, some people in the forums, I think, said that. 12:37.200 --> 12:41.160 Obviously, there were some others that did not like it, so, hey, it takes all kinds. 12:41.240 --> 12:43.180 You know, it's, um, not going to like everything. 12:43.560 --> 12:45.620 I'm sure there's some people that didn't like Star Wars. 12:46.280 --> 12:47.720 I know I didn't like the new ones. 12:47.960 --> 12:50.840 I think they just, I'm not even going to go there. 12:50.960 --> 12:51.420 You know what? 12:51.460 --> 12:52.720 I'm just not even going to go there. 12:52.720 --> 12:56.000 Yeah, you better, the sleeping dogs lie on that one. 12:56.080 --> 12:58.280 Yeah, all I'm saying is, they should have stopped after two. 12:58.500 --> 13:00.040 That's all I have to say about that. 13:01.920 --> 13:03.620 Ewoks, come on, really? 13:04.720 --> 13:05.160 Ewoks? 13:06.520 --> 13:07.500 Yeah, you know. 13:07.600 --> 13:08.180 Come on. 13:08.400 --> 13:11.540 That was a, that was a two and a half hour toy commercial is what that movie was. 13:11.660 --> 13:15.340 And so was episode one, and so was episode two. 13:15.660 --> 13:15.960 Yep. 13:16.260 --> 13:20.060 Episode two was better, but episode one was a big video game commercial. 13:20.060 --> 13:22.500 It was a big Jar Jar fist. 13:22.980 --> 13:24.000 It was just, yeah. 13:24.260 --> 13:24.620 Yeah. 13:24.840 --> 13:25.180 Yeah. 13:26.120 --> 13:27.260 Let's just leave that one. 13:27.320 --> 13:28.300 That was just, yeah. 13:28.600 --> 13:33.280 Yeah, I will, I'll make a mistake in another mulligan if I start talking about Jar Jar. 13:33.620 --> 13:34.020 Exactly. 13:34.340 --> 13:37.160 We already took one to start the show with, because you made me laugh. 13:37.940 --> 13:40.060 Um, yeah, episode three. 13:41.040 --> 13:42.440 Okay, and that, plus, that's the other thing. 13:42.480 --> 13:44.460 I don't know which episode is which now. 13:45.080 --> 13:47.560 Okay, listen, I'm calling them the way I'm going to call them, 13:47.560 --> 13:49.480 and I don't care what George Lucas calls them. 13:49.480 --> 13:55.680 Um, episode three with the Ewoks, and episode one, which is the new series, 13:55.860 --> 13:58.420 which I know is not even makes sense for a numbering scheme, 13:58.520 --> 14:03.020 but the new one with little, little, uh, Darth Vader riding around in his, 14:03.080 --> 14:08.480 his, uh, beat up, uh, hoopty spaceship that somehow can defeat everyone else 14:08.480 --> 14:09.920 who's been trained and hasn't never, 14:10.120 --> 14:13.920 those movies together don't even get five out of ten from, in my book. 14:15.560 --> 14:16.040 Anyway. 14:16.620 --> 14:17.760 They're, they're pretty poor. 14:17.760 --> 14:19.040 Yeah, they, they were sad. 14:19.260 --> 14:20.400 Sad, sad, sad movie. 14:20.520 --> 14:24.380 So, email me, letters at benarev.com, tell me, you know, I know there's Star Trek, 14:24.560 --> 14:27.260 Star Wars, oh, what, oh, no, did I commit the mortal sin? 14:27.480 --> 14:28.160 Yeah, you did. 14:28.280 --> 14:31.900 Oh, what, they, you know what, seriously, the Star Trek movies don't do much for me either. 14:32.860 --> 14:33.540 They really don't. 14:33.600 --> 14:34.360 That's another myth. 14:34.440 --> 14:38.140 Not all hackers are into the whole Star Wars, wait a minute, Star Trek thing, 14:38.140 --> 14:43.340 a Star Wars, I mean, hey, I'm still cool to let, look at Seven of Iron all day long, 14:43.400 --> 14:48.460 don't get me wrong, but I really don't care if she's a Borg or if she's, what, what's the 14:48.460 --> 14:49.400 giraffe neck girl? 14:49.620 --> 14:53.140 The giraffe neck girl used to be hot, I don't know what happened to her, and the dude who 14:53.140 --> 14:54.780 sleeps in a bucket, he was pretty cool. 14:54.780 --> 14:56.920 I don't know about any of that, man. 14:57.500 --> 15:03.380 Star Trek The Next Generation is like the best show on television, and I don't even care 15:03.380 --> 15:09.320 that it, it just happens to be on a, on a spaceship called the Enterprise, I don't even 15:09.320 --> 15:11.300 care about all that, it's just a rad show. 15:11.380 --> 15:15.900 Yeah, I, I like it, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I dislike it, but I just don't memorize 15:15.900 --> 15:21.340 all the, you know, like they make, make all these fanboys out to know every episode 15:21.340 --> 15:25.300 and who starred in this, and, oh no, wait a minute, Odo could never sleep in a bucket 15:25.300 --> 15:29.740 because the silly putty form might cause him to stick to the nolium siding, and I don't 15:29.740 --> 15:30.240 know that. 15:30.760 --> 15:30.960 Yeah. 15:31.220 --> 15:34.080 I think it's cool that he sleeps in a bucket, but that's pretty much it. 15:35.020 --> 15:37.020 And more to the point, I don't care to know. 15:37.160 --> 15:38.920 Yeah, truthfully, yeah, I mean. 15:38.920 --> 15:46.900 I don't care to know if he, you know, modify the phase variance on the, you know, urinal cake 15:46.900 --> 15:49.660 in the Enterprise C or whatever, I don't care. 15:49.660 --> 15:53.600 Yeah, yeah, they do have, they have cool characters, I like, I like the giraffe neck 15:53.600 --> 15:57.700 chick who had a slug living inside of her, and then it left, I don't want to know how 15:57.700 --> 16:02.020 it got out of her body, and went into someone else and turned them into a giraffe neck, I 16:02.020 --> 16:04.780 don't know if it turns them into, you know what, never mind, I'm going to get a bunch 16:04.780 --> 16:10.020 of email of people trying to explain Star Trek and Star Wars and stuff to me, and it'll 16:10.020 --> 16:13.440 just go over my head, it'll just go right over my head. 16:14.880 --> 16:18.920 Anyway, we haven't even left the male section, and we've already branched off into the weird, 16:18.920 --> 16:23.120 see, what I do this week, all off on these weird tangents, I don't know if that makes 16:23.120 --> 16:29.580 for good radio or bad radio, but, um, email I think we were on, email, I was done with 16:29.580 --> 16:32.260 email, I said I got emails about Matrix, and that was it. 16:32.460 --> 16:34.000 I did notice something weird though. 16:34.880 --> 16:37.460 I don't know if you have, you have Hotmail account, right? 16:37.760 --> 16:38.260 Oh yeah. 16:38.400 --> 16:44.960 Have you noticed, I just noticed this yesterday, that when I went to my Hotmail account, it 16:44.960 --> 16:50.440 actually redirected, instead of going to, it used to go to like, um, what was it, Law, 16:50.800 --> 16:56.160 L-A-W, Law4 dot, whatever, it would make up a prefix, I guess it would probably have a 16:56.160 --> 16:57.140 server farm or something. 16:57.920 --> 17:01.740 Now, I notice that it routes to Hotmail dot MSN dot com. 17:02.540 --> 17:03.740 Now what's up with that? 17:03.740 --> 17:12.540 Yeah, mine does that too, but the, um, mine uses a C2SD, it's pretty much always like one 17:12.540 --> 17:23.160 of the prefixes, and it goes to Hotmail dot MSN dot com, and, uh, I don't know, it's, I 17:23.160 --> 17:29.880 think the bank, even before it went to Hotmail dot MSN, mine always went to that C2SD, and, 17:29.880 --> 17:34.980 um, I don't know if they just branched over, or if they're, you know, you see the commercials 17:34.980 --> 17:41.600 for, uh, you know, the new, you know, server, and maybe they switched, maybe they consolidated, 17:41.920 --> 17:45.000 you know, 75 domains down to two, never know. 17:45.540 --> 17:45.880 Hmm. 17:46.940 --> 17:55.020 Well, they, um, I don't, I think there, there's definitely still a random prefix or something 17:55.020 --> 17:55.380 on there. 17:55.380 --> 18:00.420 I'm sure they're still going to some server farm with those, or some kind of encoded name. 18:00.440 --> 18:03.960 I don't think they're random, I think it's an encoded name, it, they probably have some 18:03.960 --> 18:08.120 naming convention that you can figure out what it means, but don't really care, frankly. 18:08.220 --> 18:11.380 I just thought, it just struck me as odd, and I wonder how many people notice it. 18:11.660 --> 18:15.420 And the other thing is, like I mentioned on a previous episode, I think it was episode 18:15.420 --> 18:21.160 14, I don't think, I know, I looked that up, but episode 14, I talked about single sign-on, 18:21.160 --> 18:26.380 the concept of what is single sign-on and how it works, and I actually used Hotmail as 18:26.380 --> 18:26.900 an example. 18:27.940 --> 18:32.460 And if you remember that episode, if you haven't listened to it, go check it out, but it basically 18:32.460 --> 18:38.380 explains it's, it's all, it's all authenticating in one place anyway, you know, so you're logging 18:38.380 --> 18:42.800 in, when you logged into Hotmail, you're automatically logged into all the MSN content and other stuff. 18:42.880 --> 18:49.020 Anything that you had that passport, which is more proper terms, passport is their central 18:49.020 --> 18:53.000 authenticating thing, you can get to any of the passport sites, which is MSN, Hotmail, 18:53.160 --> 18:53.860 et cetera, et cetera. 18:54.380 --> 18:57.660 I don't know if Expedia is included, probably all the Microsoft sites. 18:57.880 --> 19:03.780 So, the fact that the name change really doesn't do, make, make a big difference, it just kind 19:03.780 --> 19:04.780 of struck me as unusual. 19:05.480 --> 19:05.800 Yeah. 19:05.800 --> 19:08.680 I hope there's not any more, nothing more to it than that. 19:10.920 --> 19:13.800 But, that's all for the mail. 19:14.340 --> 19:19.620 Now, actually, I kind of already was talking about stuff I've been noticing or doing this 19:19.620 --> 19:19.860 week. 19:20.040 --> 19:27.420 My whole week, my past, like, two weeks, really, but especially last week and today, or actually 19:27.420 --> 19:38.580 Monday, I spent the entire day coding like a madman, absolutely just dropping code like, 19:39.240 --> 19:44.440 like, I don't know, like, I can't even think of a metaphor right now. 19:44.640 --> 19:47.780 I was dropping code non-stop. 19:48.740 --> 19:55.680 If my job would just leave me alone and let me do my coding, the world would be a much happier 19:55.680 --> 19:55.980 place. 19:56.040 --> 19:57.860 Well, I'd be a much happier dog, I know that. 19:59.300 --> 20:02.960 I just want to be left alone and write my code. 20:03.040 --> 20:05.040 Is that really too much to ask? 20:06.480 --> 20:07.560 No, it is not. 20:08.640 --> 20:16.820 My, I spend so much time in meetings about nothing, like, Seinfeld had a show about nothing. 20:16.960 --> 20:19.280 We have meetings about nothing. 20:20.080 --> 20:24.140 You know what, I'm on this now, so this is going to be a rant on what it's like to be 20:24.140 --> 20:25.460 a programmer sometimes. 20:27.820 --> 20:34.060 I swear to you, I'm going to do it without crossing too, I swear to you, these people 20:34.060 --> 20:40.000 have meetings whose sole purpose it is, is to review previous meetings. 20:40.700 --> 20:46.340 And they have meetings to discuss what topics are going to be discussed at subsequent meetings. 20:46.340 --> 20:49.040 They meet for the sake of meeting. 20:49.620 --> 20:50.660 There's no goal. 20:51.280 --> 20:53.460 They rehash things over and over again. 20:54.240 --> 20:56.580 They have meetings, you know what the one they have most often? 20:56.940 --> 21:01.180 Let's have a meeting to discuss what we've accomplished since the last meeting. 21:01.940 --> 21:05.380 So, you know, a day or two later, what have you accomplished? 21:05.380 --> 21:10.940 Well, it's only been a day, and I didn't accomplish anything, so let's sit down and analyze why 21:10.940 --> 21:11.680 we didn't accomplish. 21:11.960 --> 21:17.060 Maybe if you'd quit meeting every other day, you'd get some code done. 21:17.160 --> 21:18.380 You'd get some work done. 21:18.440 --> 21:19.820 You'd have something to accomplish. 21:20.520 --> 21:22.180 I don't get this concept. 21:24.660 --> 21:28.960 Just, just point me to the computer and get out of my way. 21:28.960 --> 21:36.620 You know, I think the, what I like to refer, I don't know if I can say this on, the circle 21:36.620 --> 21:41.380 jerk management style is, it seems to be pretty big over where I'm working at, too. 21:42.820 --> 21:51.080 Just kind of, just stand around and hold your pud, and maybe some, maybe, maybe Bland will 21:51.080 --> 21:51.640 do the work. 21:52.480 --> 21:56.160 Well, and that's the thing, is like, that's the frustrating part. 21:56.160 --> 22:00.280 It's like, I've gotten used to the fact that they're going to meet for the sake of meeting, 22:00.340 --> 22:03.920 and they pull me into it, you know, and fine, whatever. 22:04.060 --> 22:09.760 It's easier for me to just be quiet, take a deep breath, go to my happy place, and just 22:09.760 --> 22:11.080 wait until it's all over with. 22:11.420 --> 22:14.460 I've accepted that's part of working in the real world sometimes. 22:14.580 --> 22:16.300 I accept that's the way it goes sometimes. 22:17.260 --> 22:26.080 But, what gets me angry is that sometimes my work, a lot of times my work, depends on 22:26.080 --> 22:27.600 them getting me information. 22:28.780 --> 22:35.400 And, I've been getting a lot of grief, good word, I've been getting a lot of grief lately, 22:35.880 --> 22:44.720 because a project is not done when they wanted it to be done, yet, I don't get the information 22:44.720 --> 22:47.320 that I need from other parties involved in this. 22:48.280 --> 22:50.440 Now, obviously, I can't go into a bunch of detail. 22:50.440 --> 22:52.320 People know where I work, somewhat. 22:53.320 --> 22:56.920 They know what type of place I work at, and most of them probably know where I work, actually. 22:57.240 --> 22:58.900 But, I'm not going to come out and say it on the radio. 22:59.040 --> 23:08.120 However, I get some information, some data, from an outside agency that I need to import 23:08.120 --> 23:09.980 into our local system. 23:09.980 --> 23:17.400 Well, I'm working with the data that they give me, and the specs that they give me, and 23:17.400 --> 23:21.400 specs change as you go along, because they don't think them through, they change their 23:21.400 --> 23:22.320 mind at the last minute. 23:22.600 --> 23:25.600 That, again, is something you have to accept as a programmer. 23:25.700 --> 23:26.460 That just happens. 23:27.020 --> 23:28.060 And, again, I'm used to that. 23:28.100 --> 23:28.740 I don't mind it. 23:28.800 --> 23:30.840 I actually smile and laugh about it. 23:31.240 --> 23:35.920 Sometimes, I even code ahead of time, going, you know what, I don't think this is what they 23:35.920 --> 23:36.100 meant. 23:36.180 --> 23:37.160 I think they wanted this. 23:37.160 --> 23:40.520 So, I'll go ahead and write the code, and then when they come to me, I say, yeah, I 23:40.520 --> 23:41.740 know, I'm already done. 23:41.920 --> 23:43.800 I already, you know, I already kind of play ahead of the game. 23:44.760 --> 23:48.940 And, even this project I've been working on lately, I coded ahead of the game. 23:49.600 --> 23:52.280 They didn't give me all of the specs, but I had some ideas. 23:52.500 --> 23:53.180 I jumped ahead. 23:53.260 --> 23:54.680 I coded what I could code. 23:54.760 --> 23:57.480 I wrote the shell of the program, so it saved me some typing time. 23:58.100 --> 24:01.640 And, they finally give me the information that I need, the data, actually. 24:02.160 --> 24:03.900 I got most of the specs, finally. 24:03.960 --> 24:04.940 I got those whipped out. 24:04.940 --> 24:08.660 Now, I'm getting a data file, and the data that they send me is garbage. 24:09.700 --> 24:11.380 I mean, it's total garbage. 24:11.520 --> 24:14.760 They're sending me blanks in fields that should be numeric. 24:14.960 --> 24:19.640 And, my program is looking for zeros or for numbers, and it just chokes it to death. 24:20.380 --> 24:22.160 Which, yes, it can all be fixed. 24:22.160 --> 24:33.040 But, when we're talking about a record length of over 4,000 characters and several thousand records themselves, I have to write exception routines for all of these things. 24:33.140 --> 24:42.180 And, 20 occurrences, within 20 occurrences, it's just messy and time-consuming to write an exception routine for mistakes that other people did. 24:42.180 --> 24:49.800 Well, I guess I shouldn't say mistakes, but oversights and shortcomings of someone else's programming skills who can't get me good, solid, valid information. 24:49.800 --> 25:04.100 And, that's frustrating because it makes me look like I'm not coding fast enough or I'm not getting something done on time, when, in actuality, I have programmed ahead of the game, and I'm waiting on them to get me data. 25:04.200 --> 25:05.980 It's so frustrating sometimes. 25:05.980 --> 25:10.660 And, then I get called into a meeting to sit there and twiddle my thumbs and say, what's the progress? 25:11.040 --> 25:18.100 Well, there is no progress because I'm in your meeting, again, and I could be in my office in headphones coding. 25:20.420 --> 25:20.820 Ugh. 25:21.780 --> 25:23.080 Alright, calm down. 25:23.220 --> 25:24.460 Go to my happy place. 25:25.460 --> 25:25.780 Ah. 25:26.680 --> 25:27.080 Okay. 25:27.380 --> 25:27.860 I'm back. 25:28.640 --> 25:30.480 See, I made it through that without cussing. 25:30.800 --> 25:32.900 I am very, very proud of you. 25:32.960 --> 25:34.600 I am, I'm, I'm proud of myself. 25:34.600 --> 25:36.000 I'm, I'm very proud of myself. 25:36.040 --> 25:36.520 I'm, you know what? 25:38.020 --> 25:39.180 That was a pat on the back. 25:39.280 --> 25:40.980 I pat, I gave myself a pat on the back for that. 25:41.280 --> 25:42.360 Oh, Stan, you earned it. 25:43.740 --> 25:44.740 What did you almost say? 25:45.160 --> 25:46.140 I said you earned it. 25:46.220 --> 25:46.600 Oh, okay. 25:48.480 --> 25:49.280 Oh, man. 25:49.620 --> 25:49.880 Alright. 25:50.820 --> 25:51.560 I'm calmed down. 25:51.760 --> 25:52.280 You know what, though? 25:52.540 --> 25:55.240 It, even that being said, it's frustrating and stuff. 25:55.320 --> 25:56.080 I'm getting used to it. 25:56.100 --> 25:56.900 I'm getting better at it. 25:56.960 --> 26:03.440 It's, you know, when you gotta work with normals all day, you have to adapt to them, at least on a temporary basis. 26:03.440 --> 26:06.020 At least on a social engineering level. 26:06.160 --> 26:07.160 You have to talk down. 26:07.320 --> 26:10.600 You have to deal with their way of thinking and their way of working. 26:10.920 --> 26:12.360 And you just have to. 26:12.780 --> 26:17.680 As hard as it is, and believe me, I know, you have to deal with the normals. 26:17.860 --> 26:20.000 And you just, you gotta work through it. 26:20.220 --> 26:24.120 But I did, even that being said, I had a great week doing this coding. 26:24.280 --> 26:25.200 That's what I like to do. 26:25.240 --> 26:25.940 I love it. 26:25.940 --> 26:29.040 I laid down so much code Monday. 26:29.220 --> 26:32.400 I went in, coded almost 12 hours solid, straight. 26:32.540 --> 26:38.100 Even at lunchtime, I ran out and grabbed something to eat from a, I almost went to McDonald's, but I didn't. 26:39.440 --> 26:44.340 I went to a local restaurant, grabbed something, brought it back to my desk and coded while I'm eating. 26:44.960 --> 26:46.400 I stayed there late tonight. 26:46.980 --> 26:48.140 Everybody was out of the building. 26:48.360 --> 26:51.820 I, you know what, I don't know if you, well, actually, what am I asking? 26:51.840 --> 26:52.560 Of course you're familiar. 26:52.620 --> 26:53.760 You're the king of all music. 26:53.760 --> 26:56.300 I listened to the Matrix soundtrack. 26:56.720 --> 27:00.860 Not the, not the movie score, but the other disc. 27:00.940 --> 27:01.660 You know, it's a two disc. 27:01.760 --> 27:07.720 It's the one with Marilyn Manson and, and Rob Zombie's on there, P.O.D. 27:08.200 --> 27:10.580 I'm, dude, I cranked it up full blast. 27:10.680 --> 27:14.260 I'm just coding and just, dude, I was in the zone. 27:14.820 --> 27:17.080 I was like Michael Jordan, baby, 50 point game. 27:17.160 --> 27:19.080 I was in the zone. 27:19.080 --> 27:24.500 And it's, and when I walked, when I left, it was just the greatest feeling. 27:24.800 --> 27:26.740 It was just the adrenaline rush. 27:26.900 --> 27:31.020 I guess people, I hope some people listening feel me on this. 27:31.080 --> 27:31.720 I hope they get me. 27:31.840 --> 27:38.820 But, dude, when you've been coding and you can see the progress and you're like, yeah, boy, I just, boy, I just worked that out, man. 27:38.860 --> 27:39.900 I fixed their program. 27:40.040 --> 27:43.460 I worked around and no matter what they try, I've got it hooked up. 27:43.460 --> 27:44.800 There's nothing they can do. 27:44.960 --> 27:47.620 They can't make it any worse that I can't fix it. 27:47.740 --> 27:53.480 You know, I just walk out with such a feeling of, of accomplishment and victory, I guess. 27:54.420 --> 27:55.200 And I don't know. 27:55.280 --> 27:57.440 I guess it's a programming thing, a hacking thing. 27:57.520 --> 27:57.960 I don't know. 27:58.440 --> 28:00.920 Also, and maybe it's the fact that it's at night. 28:01.000 --> 28:02.120 I always do my best coding. 28:02.260 --> 28:03.300 I work better at night. 28:04.280 --> 28:11.680 I don't know if that's a hacking cliche or if it's just a personal, you know, they always, always say that hackers are up all night and blah, blah, blah. 28:11.680 --> 28:13.740 Maybe it's true or maybe it's just me. 28:13.800 --> 28:14.280 I don't know. 28:14.760 --> 28:16.780 Do you do, do you notice any difference? 28:16.840 --> 28:18.160 Do you do anything better late at night? 28:18.360 --> 28:20.600 Oh, boy, that was a real open-ended question. 28:21.260 --> 28:22.820 Rewind, rewind, rewind. 28:23.320 --> 28:27.420 Bland, do you notice that you code any differently in the day versus the night? 28:27.720 --> 28:28.380 Oh, man. 28:28.620 --> 28:33.740 As far as just hacking in general, I can't do anything while the sun's up, man. 28:33.740 --> 28:41.180 And I just, it gets dark and, you know, like everyone's in bed and you're just, the energy is there. 28:41.900 --> 28:46.140 And it's just, man, the best hacking, my best hacking is like 2, 3 in the morning. 28:46.380 --> 28:46.660 Yeah. 28:47.140 --> 28:52.500 Yeah, but it's so hard to do that too and have to get up and go work with the normals all day, you know? 28:52.700 --> 28:53.060 Yeah. 28:53.060 --> 29:00.240 They got that 8 to 5, 9 to 5 mindset and they just don't understand. 29:01.000 --> 29:01.680 I pity them. 29:01.900 --> 29:05.400 They just, and you know, the thing is, they just don't get it. 29:05.400 --> 29:15.080 But you could write an entire system in a couple nights overnight doing it your way, but that's not good enough. 29:15.160 --> 29:15.820 That's not what they want. 29:15.880 --> 29:22.100 They'd rather you come in and spend 6 months during those normal business hours trying to make your brain function, 29:22.500 --> 29:29.660 going to all their mind-numbing meetings and sapping your will to code and make you take infinitely longer. 29:30.700 --> 29:32.140 And that somehow is better. 29:32.580 --> 29:33.900 I don't get it. 29:33.900 --> 29:35.860 But that is corporate mentality. 29:35.980 --> 29:40.520 That's just the way the world is and unfortunately that's not changing. 29:41.100 --> 29:46.180 You know, we know some of our listeners have had problems dealing with school and how those systems work 29:46.180 --> 29:50.360 and how a school bothers them and they can't do this and the restrictions there. 29:50.720 --> 29:54.020 Well, we have that same type of thing in the real world. 29:54.260 --> 29:59.340 So, you know, that's why our advice is always suck it up, go to your happy place, get through it. 29:59.340 --> 30:02.980 You will and in the long run you will be better off. 30:04.180 --> 30:04.540 Hopefully. 30:05.540 --> 30:05.860 Yeah. 30:05.920 --> 30:07.000 I'll let you know when I get there. 30:07.720 --> 30:08.640 Yeah, no kidding. 30:08.880 --> 30:09.240 Right? 30:09.960 --> 30:11.680 No, that's a, you know, I can't say that. 30:11.840 --> 30:15.900 Truth be told, compared to a lot of places in the world, there's some people in bad shape, 30:15.980 --> 30:17.860 so always count your blessings on where you stand. 30:18.200 --> 30:19.080 Anyway, let's go back. 30:19.120 --> 30:19.960 Can we talk about hacking? 30:20.600 --> 30:21.320 I actually want to. 30:21.320 --> 30:23.060 I don't know, should we? 30:23.780 --> 30:23.880 Yeah. 30:23.880 --> 30:28.680 Or do you want to just go off and like some kind of transcendental meditation kind of, I don't know, 30:28.740 --> 30:33.980 you want to talk about some philosophical, your job here is to keep me reined back in 30:33.980 --> 30:36.160 when I go off on these weird tangents like that. 30:36.380 --> 30:37.200 See, I dig them. 30:37.460 --> 30:39.880 See, I know, I see this is the thing, I got the wrong person, right? 30:40.220 --> 30:40.600 Hell yeah. 30:40.600 --> 30:44.440 You and I can start off a hacking show and end up talking about, I don't know, debating 30:44.440 --> 30:48.620 the size of trash can perimeters or something weird like that. 30:49.940 --> 30:52.420 Which, by the way, I don't understand the trash can perimeter. 30:52.560 --> 30:55.380 I mean, why does there even have to be a standard size in trash cans? 30:55.440 --> 30:59.820 I mean, really, as long as it just meets your needs, it should be able to adapt to whatever. 31:00.740 --> 31:02.840 Why not an elastic rimmed garbage can? 31:03.520 --> 31:05.380 See, that's why Linux doesn't make trash cans. 31:05.380 --> 31:10.360 And make your own, a Lego, like a Lego, you can build your own. 31:10.860 --> 31:11.260 Exactly. 31:11.900 --> 31:15.360 Ah, well, speaking, oh, okay, I don't know, that's not a good segue. 31:15.480 --> 31:18.140 I'm going to segue back into something else I found cool this week. 31:18.600 --> 31:20.820 Okay, I'm done with the ranting about that. 31:21.120 --> 31:23.720 I actually stumbled across a cool device. 31:25.400 --> 31:30.360 I think, if I remember correctly, I got this, I found this through a link from Yahoo. 31:30.360 --> 31:35.620 Yahoo, I don't remember where or how at Yahoo, but something on one of their pages. 31:37.480 --> 31:44.000 It was like the top, what was their word, coolest, it was some kind of cool inventions or something, 31:44.100 --> 31:45.280 cool products that were out. 31:46.140 --> 31:52.140 And this one that caught my eye, anyway, is that there's a new, see, in my office, 31:52.220 --> 31:53.180 here's what relates to work. 31:53.420 --> 31:54.800 In my office, I have a shredder. 31:55.000 --> 31:58.420 I'm one of the few people that insisted on getting a shredder. 31:58.420 --> 32:05.940 I deal with Social Security numbers, people's payroll information, student information, 32:06.440 --> 32:10.420 all kinds of private stuff, grades, anything you can imagine. 32:10.660 --> 32:14.600 And I respect my own privacy, so I'm definitely going to respect others. 32:14.680 --> 32:20.200 So I have a shredder, and I shred anything of that nature, including my own code. 32:20.300 --> 32:24.680 And I don't want somebody dumpster diving, pulling out my code and digging through it or something like that. 32:24.680 --> 32:27.960 Something that basically is our bread and butter is accurate sometimes. 32:28.420 --> 32:30.340 So I shred a lot of that stuff. 32:30.740 --> 32:35.040 Well, I found a shredder, and I know you're thinking, how can a shredder be cool? 32:35.440 --> 32:36.580 This is a shredder. 32:36.660 --> 32:39.200 It's made by, or who's it made by? 32:39.340 --> 32:42.120 Royal, R-O-Y-A-L, royal.com. 32:42.460 --> 32:51.140 It is a shredder that shreds CDs, compact discs. 32:51.140 --> 32:53.160 You can put a compact disc in there. 32:53.600 --> 32:55.580 It will shred it. 32:55.640 --> 32:58.980 It's called a CD shredder, but it will shatter it, basically. 32:59.300 --> 33:03.660 Shatter the CD, cut it in so many pieces that, I tell you what, here's a quote. 33:04.560 --> 33:05.720 Here's a quote from it. 33:05.740 --> 33:06.160 Where is it called? 33:06.400 --> 33:07.400 It says, it flattens. 33:07.500 --> 33:08.360 Oh, this was also cool. 33:08.480 --> 33:13.020 Not only does it shred CDs, it also shred diskettes and credit cards. 33:13.840 --> 33:15.420 Which, I don't know if you've ever tried. 33:15.520 --> 33:19.100 I've tried to send credit cards through a shredder, and it doesn't, it chokes. 33:19.160 --> 33:20.480 It doesn't like it very well at all. 33:20.640 --> 33:22.100 Yeah, no, it's not happy with that at all. 33:22.180 --> 33:26.500 Yeah, at the very worst, it'll bend it or carve into it, but it won't cut it open. 33:26.500 --> 33:34.440 So, and you'll probably really screw up your shredder in the process, but this one will 33:34.440 --> 33:39.380 shred floppies, credit cards, and the quote, which just, I don't know, it sounds really 33:39.380 --> 33:40.280 cool the way they word it. 33:40.540 --> 33:47.740 It says, quote, it flattens raised numbers on old credit and ATM cards before cutting them 33:47.740 --> 33:48.340 to ribbons. 33:48.340 --> 33:55.640 It shreds a CD in about four seconds, reducing it to shards so, excuse me, too small to be 33:55.640 --> 33:58.020 used for any kind of data recovery. 33:59.360 --> 34:01.600 Dude, do you, how cool is that? 34:02.040 --> 34:03.020 Yeah, that's really cool. 34:03.100 --> 34:07.800 Not only does it shred the card, but it flattens the raised numbers? 34:09.160 --> 34:12.180 Wow, that is, dude, that is elite. 34:13.140 --> 34:16.720 Oh, police, open up, stank dog, we're here to confiscate. 34:16.720 --> 34:19.300 Oh, shred, shred, shred, shred. 34:20.620 --> 34:23.780 Actually, I have to be shredding a lot real fast, so that's not exactly going to work. 34:24.100 --> 34:29.380 But, man, I thought, am I over, that to me is really, really cool. 34:29.660 --> 34:30.420 Oh, that's very nice. 34:30.500 --> 34:32.840 Hey, what's the, what's the time on that? 34:33.040 --> 34:35.040 How long does it take you to shred the CD? 34:35.980 --> 34:39.660 I think it said, did it say four seconds to shred, shatter a CD? 34:40.260 --> 34:41.680 I think it was four seconds. 34:41.680 --> 34:47.080 Which, I mean, I guess it takes four seconds to shred a piece of paper. 34:47.620 --> 34:47.900 Yeah. 34:47.980 --> 34:49.680 You know, if it takes that long to feed it through. 34:50.120 --> 34:53.200 I'm just trying to figure it out if I can do it with a sledgehammer or a can of green beans 34:53.200 --> 34:54.060 or something faster. 34:54.840 --> 34:56.020 It wouldn't be as small. 34:56.120 --> 34:57.140 This is like confetti. 34:57.560 --> 34:58.080 Oh, really? 34:58.200 --> 34:59.280 Well, yeah, they show a picture. 34:59.360 --> 35:04.320 If you go to, again, it's www.royal.com, R-O-Y-A-L. 35:04.780 --> 35:05.920 They show a picture of it. 35:06.380 --> 35:11.620 When I look, it was on the front page earlier this week, and I assume it'll be up for a while. 35:11.660 --> 35:14.860 If not, just, I guess you can look under the shredder section or search for it. 35:14.860 --> 35:15.300 I'm not sure. 35:15.740 --> 35:19.280 But it shows a picture, and you can see all the little shards in the catch case. 35:20.020 --> 35:21.220 And it's really, it's pretty cool. 35:22.140 --> 35:23.040 It's really pretty cool. 35:23.200 --> 35:30.900 Other than that, I listened, by the way, I listened to Last RFA, and I really liked your doorbell idea. 35:31.320 --> 35:31.880 Oh, thank you. 35:31.880 --> 35:34.100 With the Bluetooth and walking up to the door. 35:34.540 --> 35:34.740 Yes. 35:34.780 --> 35:40.020 See, you know, it's going to be tough getting that into most people. 35:40.160 --> 35:41.240 Geeks would love it, of course. 35:41.640 --> 35:43.140 But seriously, why not? 35:44.280 --> 35:46.360 It's obviously not expensive technology. 35:46.500 --> 35:48.380 I mean, it's cheap enough they put it into phones, right? 35:48.740 --> 35:49.200 Oh, yeah. 35:49.400 --> 35:55.400 Well, when you're building tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars on a home or on a house, 35:55.920 --> 36:01.200 it seems like a simple thing to build that into the doorbell when you're building a new house, 36:01.200 --> 36:08.320 a new technology that could be put into upgrading doorbell technology, which I don't think has been updated. 36:08.520 --> 36:10.880 I mean, it's a doorbell, for God's sake. 36:10.920 --> 36:11.660 What can you do? 36:12.500 --> 36:12.840 You know? 36:12.960 --> 36:13.220 What? 36:13.220 --> 36:19.540 Like, you know, I know some houses that are built now, they go ahead and they put it, well, probably now they've stopped with wireless. 36:19.540 --> 36:29.180 But I know a few years back they were building houses and putting network RJ45 cable running through the house so that if you wanted to set up a network, 36:29.300 --> 36:38.840 you could simply jack into the port in the room and you could go to, like, a utility closet or something and set up your hub or switch or whatever you wanted to set up. 36:38.840 --> 36:45.500 And that way you're all, all your wiring's already pulled through because I'm sure as most hackers know that have pulled their own network, 36:45.600 --> 36:49.940 you go through the ceiling, you make some mess, you have to get into the roof, you have to get into the walls. 36:50.000 --> 36:52.860 If you live in an apartment, forget about it, you know? 36:53.200 --> 36:53.760 Oh, yeah. 36:53.820 --> 36:56.300 So I know they're putting those in houses because it was cheap. 36:56.380 --> 36:59.660 It's not like RJ45 costs a whole lot, you know? 36:59.720 --> 37:02.000 It's not like this stuff's going to cost a couple faceplates. 37:02.280 --> 37:03.260 Same thing with the Bluetooth. 37:03.480 --> 37:04.740 Put that in the doorbell, man. 37:04.740 --> 37:06.380 I don't think that's, I think that's pretty cool. 37:08.140 --> 37:12.360 Yeah, especially if you could somehow get it to transmit something custom. 37:13.000 --> 37:18.660 Like if all the Domino's delivery boys wore, you know, hey, get the door, it's Domino's. 37:18.740 --> 37:22.980 Or, you know, like put their little slogan in there so you get to hear a little advertising with your pizza. 37:23.480 --> 37:23.800 Hmm. 37:24.920 --> 37:28.200 I get, the thing is it would have to be, I would want it to only be voluntary. 37:29.040 --> 37:33.880 You know, there's got to be a way to keep it from, I don't want, you know, because that's the problem with RFID. 37:34.740 --> 37:39.000 You know, I don't want somebody tracking me or, you know, knowing where I'm at or coming, you know. 37:39.080 --> 37:40.680 It would have to be a voluntary thing. 37:41.380 --> 37:47.760 Now, the range of Bluetooth is so small that it might not be such a problem, but. 37:48.100 --> 37:50.460 Well, I'm not talking about using it for authentication or anything. 37:50.580 --> 37:56.620 I'm just talking about that maybe even you have to have it, like if I had a doorbell. 37:57.040 --> 37:57.420 Right. 37:57.500 --> 37:58.660 If I had a Bluetooth doorbell. 37:58.660 --> 38:06.500 Well, I had linked up a, your, your Bluetooth Mac address, the Mac address of your phone. 38:06.580 --> 38:08.340 So you'd have to program your doorbell? 38:08.640 --> 38:08.900 Yeah. 38:09.180 --> 38:12.580 Because, I mean, it wouldn't send, like that would be scary. 38:12.960 --> 38:13.280 Right. 38:13.340 --> 38:14.160 That's what I was getting at. 38:14.180 --> 38:16.440 I didn't want any kind of Big Brother stuff going on. 38:16.780 --> 38:16.960 No. 38:16.960 --> 38:19.520 It would definitely have to be something that's programmed into the doorbell. 38:19.660 --> 38:23.280 But, again, is that something that only Uber geeks like us would ever do? 38:24.220 --> 38:25.000 I think it's rad. 38:25.180 --> 38:29.820 And if you could do it for cheap enough and, I mean, let's say as cool as Bluetooth is. 38:29.980 --> 38:31.560 And as cool as doorbells are. 38:31.800 --> 38:33.080 Cool as doorbells are. 38:33.260 --> 38:34.800 I think, I think it would fly. 38:35.180 --> 38:36.900 I think, you know what, I really do. 38:36.900 --> 38:40.640 But, it's one of those things that is so cheap. 38:40.840 --> 38:41.340 Why not? 38:41.760 --> 38:42.820 That's what, that's what I say. 38:42.880 --> 38:43.360 Why not? 38:43.840 --> 38:44.460 It's cheap. 38:44.980 --> 38:45.120 Yeah. 38:45.200 --> 38:47.820 And plus, because a lot of people have Bluetooth in their phone. 38:47.900 --> 38:48.560 They're like, Bluetooth? 38:48.840 --> 38:49.220 Blackberry? 38:49.320 --> 38:49.740 What's all this? 38:49.740 --> 38:49.940 Yeah. 38:50.420 --> 38:50.780 Yeah. 38:50.780 --> 38:51.500 They don't even know. 38:51.980 --> 39:00.720 And so, but if you say, hey, here's something that you can use to, you know, sound cool at my house when you come and visit me. 39:00.820 --> 39:04.100 You know, it shows you, you know, it does that for, for me. 39:04.100 --> 39:07.040 And they'll be like, ooh, maybe this Bluetooth stuff is kind of cool. 39:07.240 --> 39:10.500 And they'll do a little reading about it and Bluetooth will really jump up and take off like it should. 39:11.280 --> 39:11.300 Yeah. 39:11.420 --> 39:15.020 Well, you know, I, I do, I think it is, I think it is taking off. 39:15.080 --> 39:17.520 The cell phone market, cell phone industry is helping it a lot. 39:18.980 --> 39:23.020 I went and checked out the site you guys talked about on RFA 89, right? 39:24.120 --> 39:24.640 Which one? 39:24.760 --> 39:25.600 That was the last one? 39:25.980 --> 39:26.240 Yeah. 39:26.760 --> 39:27.120 89. 39:29.580 --> 39:30.580 BluejackQ.com? 39:30.720 --> 39:31.280 Oh, yeah. 39:31.440 --> 39:32.440 That was a cool site. 39:32.440 --> 39:34.480 And was it, am I, and did I misinterpret it? 39:34.500 --> 39:36.640 Was that run by like a 12-year-old kid or something? 39:36.860 --> 39:38.460 Yeah, I think, I think that's the story. 39:38.700 --> 39:40.380 Dude, that is cool, man. 39:40.980 --> 39:42.200 That kid is all right. 39:42.200 --> 39:46.020 If he's listening, somebody get the show to him, dude, that's elite. 39:46.760 --> 39:52.040 I know it's kind of silly and it's not a big, you know, in-depth hacking thing, but that's a pretty cool thing. 39:52.420 --> 39:57.400 It's a pretty cool that you made your own whole website to it with, frankly, useful information. 39:57.540 --> 39:58.560 I thought it was funny. 39:58.560 --> 40:01.180 I looked at the sites and some of the pictures and stuff. 40:01.440 --> 40:07.080 I thought that was a very cool site, especially for someone that age, and that's an up-and-coming hacker right there. 40:07.320 --> 40:07.660 Oh, yeah. 40:08.520 --> 40:15.260 Other than that, I think the rest of my week was spent searching for the Paris Hilton homemade porn video. 40:15.620 --> 40:16.040 How about you? 40:16.400 --> 40:18.980 Yeah, I didn't, I didn't find much. 40:19.980 --> 40:26.780 I heard a lot of people have it, but they've just got the, there's like a three-minute kind of preview deal. 40:26.940 --> 40:28.040 Yeah, that's all I got, too. 40:28.100 --> 40:28.800 That's all I found. 40:29.480 --> 40:34.720 I can't, I don't, and I didn't even bother watching that because I knew it was going to be the preview. 40:35.280 --> 40:35.880 Well, I don't know. 40:35.900 --> 40:37.720 I actually have some pretty good stuff on that little thing. 40:37.800 --> 40:41.240 But the thing is, it's like that, it's night vision goggles. 40:41.240 --> 40:43.400 It's like everything's green and black, you know? 40:43.880 --> 40:46.820 Oh, it's just like you're watching Operation Desert Storm. 40:47.040 --> 40:47.480 Exactly. 40:47.720 --> 40:52.220 It's pretty weird, but you can see, it's definitely her. 40:52.320 --> 40:53.420 There's no doubt about that. 40:53.760 --> 40:56.100 Is there any nudity in the preview footage? 40:56.240 --> 40:57.160 Oh, yeah. 40:57.560 --> 40:57.840 Huh. 40:58.380 --> 40:59.400 Oh, yeah. 41:01.480 --> 41:03.440 There is, oh, man. 41:04.400 --> 41:11.760 Okay, I'm not saying any bad words, but can we talk about, oh, man, I'm not supposed to mention Adult Topics or he can't use them in the GSM. 41:12.260 --> 41:13.600 Oh, what am I going to do? 41:13.960 --> 41:14.280 What? 41:15.180 --> 41:16.160 Oh, man. 41:16.560 --> 41:22.940 See, one of the people in IRC, forgive me if I forget, I think it was, it might have been Cloak Dagger. 41:23.560 --> 41:29.180 Someone in IRC mentioned they have a GSM treasure hunt game, which is kind of a cool idea. 41:29.180 --> 41:38.500 What they do is they bury, or they go out and bury like a time capsule or a hidden thing, and they post the coordinates, and other people will go out there with a GSM and try to find it. 41:39.120 --> 41:44.860 So it's this cool treasure hunt thing, and he was saying that he wanted to put episodes of Binary Revolution Radio. 41:46.120 --> 41:51.320 But they have a limit, they have a rule that they can't put, quote, adult material. 41:52.480 --> 41:58.060 So us cursing all the time, I guess, qualifies or could qualify as that. 41:58.060 --> 42:00.560 Well, did I ruin it with Circle Jerk a little earlier? 42:00.920 --> 42:01.320 I don't know. 42:01.420 --> 42:04.900 I was worried about whether I was going to ruin it with the word penetration. 42:06.160 --> 42:07.880 Penetration is a good word, saying. 42:09.040 --> 42:16.000 Well, the Paris Hilton video has penetrated the market. 42:16.740 --> 42:18.020 Can I word it that way? 42:18.120 --> 42:19.560 Can I get away with it like that? 42:20.200 --> 42:23.440 Does it penetrate the market's mouth, or does it penetrate... 42:23.440 --> 42:27.260 Oh, man, you're killing me. 42:27.700 --> 42:28.840 Oh, gosh. 42:29.100 --> 42:31.140 I'm crying, trying not to laugh. 42:31.520 --> 42:33.540 Or does it penetrate... 42:33.540 --> 42:37.340 There's a lot of oral discussion about it. 42:38.100 --> 42:38.580 Okay. 42:39.360 --> 42:41.880 But no one's being anal about anything, are they? 42:41.880 --> 42:48.300 I think they're only anal when the camera's not directly on them. 42:48.760 --> 42:49.620 Oh, okay. 42:49.740 --> 42:54.580 Yeah, then it's time that they can, you know, try other things. 42:55.020 --> 42:55.420 Okay. 42:56.040 --> 42:58.820 But, yeah, it's definitely worth the download for three minutes. 42:59.520 --> 43:02.380 And when you watch that, you will want the full. 43:02.460 --> 43:04.820 I think the full one's supposed to be like 30 minutes. 43:04.820 --> 43:06.340 If I remember on the... 43:06.340 --> 43:13.960 I think on the smokinggun.com, I think I remember they said that it was 30 minutes or 34 minutes or something like that. 43:14.700 --> 43:18.380 The smokinggun.com, by the way, still in full effect. 43:18.840 --> 43:19.460 Oh, yeah. 43:19.580 --> 43:21.420 Dude, they come out with... 43:21.420 --> 43:23.300 Oh, they're the bomb. 43:23.600 --> 43:24.060 That's it. 43:24.420 --> 43:26.420 They're like zero-day pop culture. 43:27.020 --> 43:27.260 Yeah. 43:27.640 --> 43:28.680 And they're so... 43:28.680 --> 43:33.060 You know the other silly thing that they do that's still hilarious is they just post mug shots. 43:33.500 --> 43:33.780 Yeah. 43:33.780 --> 43:39.700 Dude, people have the most ugly, just weird mug shots sometimes. 43:40.620 --> 43:42.820 Dude, some of that stuff is... 43:42.820 --> 43:43.900 That's good photography. 43:44.700 --> 43:45.100 Oh, yeah. 43:45.760 --> 43:47.880 Yeah, those cops, they really know how to work an angle. 43:49.420 --> 43:50.740 So does Paris Hilton. 43:50.880 --> 43:55.660 But, besides the Paris Hilton video, what have you been working on this past... 43:55.660 --> 44:00.180 Well, gosh, it's been a long time since you've been on here, and I know you talk about a lot of it on RFA, 44:00.580 --> 44:03.580 but you were saying you were doing some plural stuff lately? 44:04.180 --> 44:06.040 Yeah, I've been learning some pearls. 44:06.320 --> 44:10.080 Really knuckling down and trying to get the thing learned, trying to get it hammered out. 44:10.320 --> 44:11.320 So you're learning it. 44:11.340 --> 44:12.700 You don't really know it in depth, or... 44:13.200 --> 44:15.840 No, I don't speak pearl yet. 44:15.840 --> 44:17.420 Yeah, same with me. 44:17.560 --> 44:18.380 I've been... 44:18.380 --> 44:22.580 My pearl is limited to modifying stuff that already exists, you know? 44:23.200 --> 44:23.420 Yeah. 44:23.460 --> 44:26.440 It's something I've been wanting to practice and learn a little bit more of myself. 44:29.560 --> 44:32.920 So you want to talk about particulars, or is that too long a topic? 44:33.300 --> 44:35.260 Yeah, it's too long a topic. 44:35.420 --> 44:37.160 We've been rolling for quite a while. 44:37.160 --> 44:38.860 Yeah, you know what? 44:38.900 --> 44:39.460 We have been. 44:41.380 --> 44:43.080 Well, we had... 44:43.080 --> 44:45.660 Do we want to talk about our other project at all? 44:46.600 --> 44:47.180 Let's pimp it. 44:47.340 --> 44:47.800 Just a little. 44:47.900 --> 44:49.020 Let's just... 44:49.020 --> 44:51.060 Let's graze the surface just a little bit. 44:51.060 --> 44:52.860 Dude, we... 44:52.860 --> 44:53.400 Let's see. 44:53.960 --> 44:55.960 Dude, we have so many projects, dude. 44:57.060 --> 44:58.580 We have more projects than members. 44:58.800 --> 44:59.560 Yeah, we really... 44:59.560 --> 45:00.000 And you know what? 45:00.000 --> 45:01.080 We might have to change that. 45:01.120 --> 45:02.580 We might have to do something about that. 45:04.680 --> 45:06.460 We have another project. 45:07.000 --> 45:08.300 Another DDP joint. 45:10.940 --> 45:11.640 I don't want to... 45:11.640 --> 45:12.440 See, we've got to be careful. 45:12.540 --> 45:13.380 I don't want to give it away. 45:14.980 --> 45:16.320 First of all, you... 45:16.320 --> 45:20.720 The listeners don't know this, but you know my personal feeling on announcing projects. 45:21.060 --> 45:22.300 I don't like to announce them. 45:22.480 --> 45:27.960 I don't like to go talking about them until we're sure that we're going to go through with it. 45:28.220 --> 45:28.520 Right. 45:28.560 --> 45:30.820 Until it's something we know we can do. 45:31.680 --> 45:35.100 We can do pretty much anything, technically, that we want to put our minds to. 45:35.140 --> 45:36.360 We can do anything that... 45:36.360 --> 45:39.160 It's whether or not we have the time to do it. 45:39.700 --> 45:42.340 And if we're actually going to follow through, because... 45:42.340 --> 45:42.960 Let's face it. 45:42.960 --> 45:45.440 Sometimes we procrastinate as bad as anyone else. 45:45.540 --> 45:45.920 Oh, yeah. 45:46.100 --> 45:47.940 As a matter of fact, worse than everyone else. 45:48.180 --> 45:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 45:49.000 --> 45:53.540 So, this one, I think, is almost definitely a go. 45:53.680 --> 45:55.180 I mean, this is a 99.9%. 45:55.180 --> 45:58.300 This is a go whenever we get around to recording. 45:59.100 --> 45:59.640 Oh, you know what? 45:59.660 --> 46:00.600 I guess that's the hint. 46:00.980 --> 46:01.220 Yeah. 46:01.680 --> 46:02.460 I guess that's a hint. 46:02.540 --> 46:03.440 This is going to be... 46:03.440 --> 46:06.420 I guess we can tell them that it's going to be another radio show. 46:07.320 --> 46:08.160 Download only. 46:08.440 --> 46:08.980 Right, yeah. 46:09.040 --> 46:10.480 We're not going to stream this one. 46:10.600 --> 46:11.300 We don't think. 46:11.340 --> 46:11.800 I don't know. 46:11.900 --> 46:14.280 Something may come of that. 46:14.280 --> 46:16.200 Dude, I don't think anyone would take it. 46:16.200 --> 46:18.060 Yeah, and the other thing is we're also... 46:18.060 --> 46:20.020 It's not going to be a regular weekly... 46:20.020 --> 46:25.500 This is going to be a when we come up with the material kind of deal, which is kind of 46:25.500 --> 46:26.280 like Hack TV. 46:26.900 --> 46:30.280 It's when we get enough material and gather together enough to put it out. 46:30.600 --> 46:31.720 It's going to be one of those things. 46:31.760 --> 46:34.100 We may do two or three a week if we're rolling. 46:34.520 --> 46:34.700 Yeah. 46:34.700 --> 46:36.920 We may do, you know, one every two or three months. 46:36.940 --> 46:37.500 Who knows? 46:38.660 --> 46:40.460 And this is... 46:40.460 --> 46:42.080 I guess this is a DDP project. 46:42.380 --> 46:43.920 However, I don't know. 46:44.000 --> 46:44.300 Is it... 46:44.300 --> 46:47.220 This is more of just a bland and stank thing. 46:47.500 --> 46:48.620 Yeah, just kind of... 46:48.620 --> 46:49.640 Yeah, doing what we do. 46:49.840 --> 46:50.260 This is... 46:50.260 --> 46:53.600 This will probably be something you download from our individual sites. 46:54.400 --> 46:55.100 Both of them? 46:55.160 --> 46:56.700 Or do we want to make... 46:56.700 --> 46:57.580 I guess that doesn't matter. 46:57.620 --> 46:58.380 We'll worry about that later. 46:58.500 --> 47:00.460 But it's really not a technical... 47:00.460 --> 47:01.740 It's not a programming project. 47:01.740 --> 47:06.940 It's another radio show that hopefully people will like. 47:07.200 --> 47:08.080 I guess that's enough. 47:09.120 --> 47:09.560 Is that enough? 47:09.940 --> 47:10.680 Yeah, that'll do it. 47:10.820 --> 47:10.960 Yeah. 47:11.740 --> 47:14.820 So look for that hopefully within, what, a couple weeks? 47:15.440 --> 47:17.020 Yeah, if we can get together this weekend. 47:17.280 --> 47:19.040 We should have done it tonight because we were rolling. 47:19.460 --> 47:22.620 Yeah, if you would have kept going with that first take, we'd have had it. 47:22.780 --> 47:26.400 Yeah, we had to stop take on the first episode, first time tonight. 47:26.640 --> 47:30.520 So, yeah, I think it's going to be coming very soon. 47:30.520 --> 47:33.580 And anyway, let's jump into... 47:33.580 --> 47:37.140 Boy, man, we just go on talking sometimes. 47:37.260 --> 47:40.320 There's just so much stuff to talk about. 47:40.620 --> 47:42.440 I've got quite a few news things. 47:42.660 --> 47:45.260 I'm going to just try to burn through them. 47:47.240 --> 47:48.220 Jeez, you know what? 47:48.620 --> 47:50.580 Actually, no, I'm going to take my time. 47:50.820 --> 47:52.780 And whatever we don't cover, we'll bump. 47:52.780 --> 47:56.880 Because I want to talk about these things slowly and make sure we get some points across. 47:56.980 --> 47:58.020 I think that's more important. 47:58.020 --> 48:04.540 And the first topic is something I said for a couple weeks now that I was going to bring up on the show. 48:04.640 --> 48:06.440 And that is spam. 48:06.920 --> 48:09.060 And how we still have a lot of spam. 48:09.180 --> 48:12.780 And how spammers get around the rules and filters and stuff like that. 48:12.980 --> 48:14.040 I actually saw a quote. 48:14.140 --> 48:15.560 I wish I knew where I got this from. 48:15.640 --> 48:19.040 That said, spam is an adaptive virus. 48:19.040 --> 48:22.560 And I thought that was so, so true. 48:23.540 --> 48:29.240 All the filters, all the filters that we have now, these Bayesian filters, they're good. 48:30.000 --> 48:31.900 But they're still not foolproof. 48:32.020 --> 48:35.180 There's still tons of spam that slips through. 48:35.180 --> 48:43.640 And I kind of have been doing a little bit of research and trying to figure out why and how and what can be done about it, if anything. 48:43.640 --> 48:48.360 And I just came up with some things. 48:48.460 --> 48:51.120 I don't know if some of you may have noticed, some of you may have not. 48:51.180 --> 48:54.340 But this is some of the things I found spammers using. 48:55.400 --> 48:56.760 And, you know, I've got to give some credit. 48:56.860 --> 48:58.520 Some of this stuff is pretty inventive. 48:59.600 --> 49:01.840 They still are the scum of the earth. 49:01.840 --> 49:07.720 But at least they're, I've got to say, some of this stuff is thinking like a hacker and thinking around. 49:08.020 --> 49:09.260 You've got a filter in front of you. 49:09.280 --> 49:15.760 And you think about, think of a way to get around it or through it or, you know, that's really the mind of a hacker. 49:15.840 --> 49:18.200 So I have to give some credit to the thinking around things. 49:18.340 --> 49:20.500 But the intent is much different. 49:20.660 --> 49:21.160 They're evil. 49:21.360 --> 49:21.820 We're not. 49:22.940 --> 49:29.360 So the first one, the one I see a lot of and most common, the filters pick up this sometimes. 49:29.360 --> 49:34.640 But if you use, like, for example, if you send me an email at stankdawg at hotmail.com. 49:36.660 --> 49:49.420 If you send an email from stankdawg at aol.com or stankdawg at bliggitybloggityblue.com, you just make up. 49:49.500 --> 49:52.340 When you forge the headers, you forge the from account. 49:52.780 --> 49:58.920 If it has the username of the person you're sending it to, usually the filters will not pick it up. 49:59.760 --> 50:05.240 Sometimes it will if it's a known, you know, it's part of a database or something like that that's known spammers. 50:05.240 --> 50:07.520 But in general, it sees your name in there. 50:07.640 --> 50:15.200 And a lot of times that causes it to mistakenly think that maybe you sent it to yourself or you sent it from another account. 50:15.360 --> 50:19.100 It thinks it's being smart because it's customized to you. 50:19.200 --> 50:22.060 It has your name in it in the from field. 50:22.060 --> 50:27.120 Now, in the subject line or something like that, it's probably treated a little bit differently. 50:27.240 --> 50:32.000 But the fact that it's in the from field, it's able to slip through a lot. 50:32.240 --> 50:33.780 You see that one a lot too, don't you? 50:34.020 --> 50:34.500 Oh, yeah. 50:34.500 --> 50:41.500 Yeah, see, just any, and it's not always, sometimes it's stankdawg6142, you know, it doesn't have to be just that. 50:41.580 --> 50:45.120 But if it has the word in it, I notice those get through a lot. 50:45.800 --> 50:52.260 The second one, and I can't help, I'm, I feel a little bit guilty almost, although I'm sure I'm not. 50:52.260 --> 50:59.060 But that they use elite speak in these things against us. 50:59.120 --> 51:01.280 They've turned it back against us, which kind of sucks. 51:02.260 --> 51:03.240 Sucks is okay, right? 51:03.300 --> 51:03.900 I can say sucks. 51:04.140 --> 51:04.520 Oh, yeah. 51:04.620 --> 51:05.240 Sucks is good. 51:05.360 --> 51:06.160 Sucks is fine. 51:06.460 --> 51:07.600 Good, healthy sucks. 51:07.700 --> 51:09.200 Yeah, nothing wrong with that. 51:12.020 --> 51:16.740 Like, well, I guess I really, our audience knows elite speak. 51:16.820 --> 51:18.860 We don't have to explain what elite speak is to them. 51:18.860 --> 51:25.760 But by putting in, instead of Viagra, you put V1, A-G-R-A, is that how you spell it? 51:26.040 --> 51:28.900 Or Myagra, the Mexican, is that my joke from before? 51:29.360 --> 51:32.960 The Myagra, the Hiagra, the Haitian Viagra? 51:33.360 --> 51:34.580 Dude, you don't need that. 51:34.700 --> 51:36.260 You just knock over table land. 51:39.100 --> 51:40.120 Oh, man. 51:40.240 --> 51:41.600 Man, come on, you let my secret out. 51:41.900 --> 51:42.860 You scared the elephants. 51:45.900 --> 51:46.900 Oh, man. 51:46.900 --> 51:49.240 Oh, where was I? 51:50.660 --> 51:54.820 So, anyway, changing one letter causes the word filter. 51:54.820 --> 52:02.400 So, most spam, when you get something with Viagra in a subject line, it's going to immediately flag that as high probability of being spam. 52:02.780 --> 52:05.340 Putting that number one in there throws that list off. 52:06.280 --> 52:12.900 Now, the way some of the filters are accounting for that is in their dictionary or in their list of trigger words, 52:12.900 --> 52:15.860 they're adding the elitized version of the word. 52:16.760 --> 52:21.880 Now, if you go back and you read my original article on elite speak, you'll realize that that didn't work back then. 52:21.940 --> 52:23.160 They used to try to filter people. 52:23.600 --> 52:26.960 That's how elite speak became about was because people were getting around filters. 52:26.960 --> 52:30.200 You filter out one word, we modify it, we come back. 52:30.260 --> 52:35.740 You filter it out again, we modify it, we come back, and it's an adaptive language, just like spam is an adaptive virus. 52:35.800 --> 52:41.040 I think I used that line in my article, and I just now realized that that was the same someone used it in this quote. 52:41.040 --> 52:49.540 So, it's not going to stop it unless you constantly update it, constantly add it, and frankly, it's going to keep morphing. 52:50.260 --> 52:55.560 So, that's kind of a lost cause, but in the short run, that's getting through a lot of filters. 52:55.560 --> 53:08.340 And, you know, the parallel spamming with hacking, to take that step a little bit further, the same way about using elite speak to get rid of those Bayesian filters, 53:09.340 --> 53:21.100 it's also the same way as Microsoft will allow backslashes in PATH instead of regular splashes for like HTML requests, stuff like that. 53:21.100 --> 53:33.420 And, like if Snort, like if you try a double decode attack, it will log, you know, dot, dot, slash, dot, slash, dot, slash, dot, slash, and Snort will come up and alert on that. 53:34.120 --> 53:43.100 But since Microsoft and their Omni Benevolence decided to allow backslashes for the same attack, dot, dot, backslash, dot, dot, backslash, dot, dot, backslash, 53:43.580 --> 53:48.940 your browser will execute it, you will complete the hack, and Snort will not alert. 53:48.940 --> 53:55.740 So, it's the same thing, I mean, you have to go in and tell Snort to recognize dot, dot, backslash, dot, backslash, 53:55.800 --> 54:04.740 in the same way that you have to tell it to recognize the 414G, you know, the Haitian, you know, you know what I mean? 54:04.820 --> 54:10.920 Right, right, well, and the other thing is, boy, we're getting pretty technical here, 54:11.180 --> 54:15.300 the other thing is, even with just those two things, that's not limited to that, 54:15.300 --> 54:21.320 even if you stop that, you can go in and put the hex code for the front slash, or the hex code for the backslash, 54:22.040 --> 54:28.360 and, you know, it's going to interpret that to its proper ASCII character, and do the same thing. 54:28.960 --> 54:29.180 Yep. 54:29.180 --> 54:36.340 So, yeah, there's, there's, I mean, there's numerous ways in, around, and through, everything, and anything, 54:36.600 --> 54:39.400 and, again, that's, that's what we do. 54:40.640 --> 54:45.000 Um, another thing, let's see, I'm up to one, two, I'm up to number three here, 54:45.180 --> 54:47.060 the other thing is punctuation. 54:47.060 --> 54:56.920 V, period, I, period, A, period, putting a dot between every letter throws off the filter sometimes, 54:56.980 --> 54:58.980 because, again, they don't see the word. 54:59.460 --> 55:01.860 Some of them, not all of them, just in some cases. 55:02.200 --> 55:06.380 I can tell you for sure, Hotmail, Hotmail doesn't filter them out. 55:06.920 --> 55:11.940 You put in a dot between every letter of every word, and it will not see the word sometimes, 55:12.120 --> 55:13.500 and it will slip through. 55:14.340 --> 55:15.200 Same principle. 55:15.200 --> 55:19.100 Some of the filters have gotten smarter about that as well. 55:19.700 --> 55:22.000 So, they look for the continuous string. 55:22.780 --> 55:27.120 And, that brings me to my fourth one that I found, and I had to do some digging to find this one. 55:27.680 --> 55:29.340 See, I, I study my spam. 55:30.120 --> 55:32.420 When I get it, I want to see how they got it. 55:32.460 --> 55:35.740 I want to see how, you know, what they're doing, and why it worked, and how it worked. 55:36.660 --> 55:40.720 Frankly, you gotta, you gotta say, I mean, you learn a lot by doing it. 55:40.740 --> 55:44.820 You learn some of their tricks, and, you know, the more tricks you have in your tool belt, 55:45.200 --> 55:51.300 anyway, this trick is, it's similar to the punctuation or things between the letters, 55:51.300 --> 55:54.960 but this one isn't, on an HTML level. 55:55.640 --> 56:03.440 Most, almost all, male clients these days interpret HTML. 56:04.220 --> 56:07.240 You send and receive email in HTML format. 56:07.240 --> 56:10.400 Maybe not by default, but it doesn't really matter. 56:10.520 --> 56:13.340 It will view it in HTML just fine. 56:14.420 --> 56:22.320 Well, what, the, one of the coolest tricks is that they will use hidden HTML codes, 56:22.380 --> 56:26.700 like meta tags, or something like that, or even just an unprintable character, or something like that. 56:26.700 --> 56:37.680 And they will put in the V, and then they will just put in a tag in the HTML code that's not visible on the screen, 56:37.820 --> 56:41.340 and then they will put the letter I, which is visible, and then another tag code, 56:41.760 --> 56:46.040 and then the letter A, or whatever, you know, whatever their word is, 56:46.100 --> 56:50.380 whether it's Viagra, whether it's teen whatever, whether it's, you know, 56:50.380 --> 56:56.140 whatever that email spam happens to be, they put a meta tag, or any kind of tag in between it that's not visible. 56:56.480 --> 57:00.840 So when you get the email, right there, clearly, you do see the word Viagra. 57:01.300 --> 57:04.740 And you think to yourself, how in the world did that one get through? 57:04.840 --> 57:08.220 Because the filters look for that word. 57:08.300 --> 57:09.480 How did they not see that? 57:09.560 --> 57:16.020 Very clearly it says, order Viagra, 100% legal, next day shipping, whatever, you know, 57:16.020 --> 57:19.000 whatever that stuff is, it's all right there, and you're thinking, 57:19.220 --> 57:21.840 there's no way that the filter doesn't pick that up, right? 57:22.640 --> 57:23.040 Wrong. 57:23.160 --> 57:25.520 If you look at the source code of this, some of those, 57:25.980 --> 57:29.140 you will see how they use those tags in between letters. 57:29.760 --> 57:34.940 And your, and it's not just the email clients displaying HTML, it's the nature of HTML. 57:35.280 --> 57:37.760 You could bring that up on a web page and do the same thing. 57:37.820 --> 57:39.740 I could easily put a word in a web page. 57:40.120 --> 57:43.640 You go and look at it, and it's interpreted, and you just see a plain word there. 57:43.640 --> 57:48.840 But if you do a view source, you will see the hidden tags behind it that separate every letter of that word. 57:50.400 --> 57:57.020 So that, I thought, was one of the coolest, I hate to say, coolest things that I've seen done lately. 57:57.720 --> 58:02.860 That by putting that tag in there, the majority of users don't even realize it, and it's invisible to them, 58:03.100 --> 58:05.740 and you bypass the filter, which is their goal. 58:06.520 --> 58:12.940 Hey, man, it is really, as bad as I hate to say it, it is the essence of hacking. 58:12.940 --> 58:13.940 It really is. 58:14.320 --> 58:21.560 And I'm sure there are some of these people who are hackers or former hackers or have some relationships to hacking. 58:23.140 --> 58:30.740 Remember, not all hackers agree with the way we do and what we say on the show and what some of the people in the forums. 58:30.840 --> 58:35.340 There are hackers out there that are criminals. 58:35.540 --> 58:36.880 There are hackers that are spammers. 58:37.040 --> 58:38.760 There are hackers that are bad people. 58:38.760 --> 58:44.980 I like to think they're in the minority, but, frankly, it's a good trick. 58:45.060 --> 58:46.540 I'm not going to take anything away from it. 58:47.000 --> 58:47.020 Yeah. 58:47.780 --> 58:51.780 I mean, that's, you know, they're still scum of the earth. 58:51.980 --> 58:54.880 But, spammers, that is. 58:55.540 --> 58:55.820 Yeah. 58:56.260 --> 58:59.920 Even hacker spammers, because spammers overrides everything else. 58:59.920 --> 59:03.420 Whew, I wonder, let's see. 59:04.740 --> 59:10.940 What's worse, a spammer or a child pornographer? 59:12.240 --> 59:13.840 I think the spammers, no. 59:14.460 --> 59:15.440 Boy, that's close. 59:15.860 --> 59:16.120 Yeah. 59:16.320 --> 59:17.620 I tell you what, let's make it easier. 59:17.680 --> 59:19.100 How about a spammer or a lawyer? 59:19.820 --> 59:23.680 Oh, definitely, definitely, definitely a spammer. 59:24.320 --> 59:25.760 Yeah, I think you're probably right. 59:26.260 --> 59:28.400 Because, you know, here's the thing. 59:28.820 --> 59:35.160 Because if you take that and if you transpose it, there is not one good spammer. 59:36.200 --> 59:36.800 That's true. 59:36.880 --> 59:39.800 There are, actually, I have a lawyer and she's very good. 59:39.800 --> 59:44.360 So, I probably, that's probably a very, very wise statement. 59:44.480 --> 59:49.940 Well, when you're in the county and we call the EFF, they're going to send a lawyer down. 59:50.080 --> 59:51.340 There's going to be a good lawyer. 59:51.400 --> 59:52.360 Yeah, that's true. 59:52.460 --> 59:53.660 Hey, we support the EFF. 59:54.100 --> 59:54.660 Yeah, we do. 59:54.720 --> 59:55.480 We sent money. 59:55.940 --> 59:56.940 Hey, we love the EFF. 59:58.020 --> 01:00:03.460 Joking aside, the EFF is, dude, I don't know where we would be without them sometimes. 01:00:04.080 --> 01:00:09.480 Like one of the few bright spots of logic and good thinking people left in the world. 01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:10.460 I heard that. 01:00:11.140 --> 01:00:13.300 All right, anyway, let me jump to number five here. 01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:14.660 This is the last one I found. 01:00:15.100 --> 01:00:18.000 And if anybody has more, of course, you know how to get in contact with us. 01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:21.640 The intentional mixing up of letters. 01:00:22.020 --> 01:00:23.120 Now, this is a joke. 01:00:23.560 --> 01:00:24.180 Not a joke. 01:00:24.180 --> 01:00:27.580 This is a phenomenon or an interesting little trivia thing that we mentioned. 01:00:27.700 --> 01:00:32.220 Someone mentioned in the forums one time that you can mix up letters of a word, 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:35.340 but you can still read it perfectly fine. 01:00:35.600 --> 01:00:38.500 As long as the first letter and the last letter are the same. 01:00:39.160 --> 01:00:41.860 And I think it was in the off-topic forums in the doghouse. 01:00:42.100 --> 01:00:44.640 If you want to go check that out, forums.binrev.com. 01:00:45.460 --> 01:00:51.020 You'll notice that, and it's kind of, you have to see it to believe it because you don't really think it's possible. 01:00:51.160 --> 01:00:56.140 But you look at the words and you can very clearly and read an entire sentence or paragraph. 01:00:56.140 --> 01:01:03.100 Even though the letters are all jumbled up, as long as that first letter of the word and the last letter of the word are correct, 01:01:03.660 --> 01:01:07.320 and all the letters in between them are the valid letters just out of order, 01:01:07.620 --> 01:01:11.920 your mind is actually smart enough for over the years of reading, you recognize, you read, 01:01:12.180 --> 01:01:15.700 you just glance at the letters and your mind sees the words. 01:01:16.720 --> 01:01:18.720 And spammers are doing that. 01:01:18.720 --> 01:01:21.480 But they'll put the word Viagra, but they'll spell it out. 01:01:21.540 --> 01:01:23.680 V-G-A-I-R-whatever-A. 01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:25.740 As long as it begins with a V and ends with an A, 01:01:26.160 --> 01:01:30.080 your mind will, even if you're not taking Viagra, you're not into Viagra, 01:01:30.420 --> 01:01:32.920 even though the show has suddenly turned into the Viagra show. 01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:40.640 Man, in a, you know what, did I get, oh man, did I just turn this into a big commercial for Viagra? 01:01:41.340 --> 01:01:41.900 Yeah, it was. 01:01:42.300 --> 01:01:42.660 Inadvertently? 01:01:43.220 --> 01:01:44.820 Viagra sells itself, though. 01:01:45.240 --> 01:01:46.280 Well, I guess that's true. 01:01:47.180 --> 01:01:48.660 That's a Haitian swap shop. 01:01:49.060 --> 01:01:49.420 Exactly. 01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:50.740 Used. 01:01:56.300 --> 01:02:00.960 So, mixing up the words, you can still read it, so that's what a lot of spammers do. 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.200 You'll see it in the subject line, mixed up words, and it gets through the filter. 01:02:04.340 --> 01:02:05.540 Again, not all of them. 01:02:05.580 --> 01:02:07.680 These are just some things that I have seen. 01:02:07.900 --> 01:02:12.020 So, if anybody has any others, we'll give you contact information at the end of the show. 01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.880 You know, I got one, let's end with another, this is a funny thing to me. 01:02:18.780 --> 01:02:20.560 We are running out of time, so let's end with this. 01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:26.200 Speaking of viruses, speaking of, you know, spam being an adaptive virus, 01:02:26.640 --> 01:02:28.880 viruses in general, I just saw this quote. 01:02:29.740 --> 01:02:30.900 Where did I get this from? 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:32.700 I don't even know where I got this from, unfortunately. 01:02:32.780 --> 01:02:34.340 I've got to start writing down my sources better. 01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:41.500 But this is a quote from John Thompson, who I didn't recognize, so I don't expect the listeners to. 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:42.500 They might. 01:02:42.700 --> 01:02:44.760 He is the CEO of Symantec. 01:02:46.020 --> 01:02:48.260 Or Symantec, or however you want to pronounce it. 01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:48.860 Symantec. 01:02:50.680 --> 01:02:51.920 Antivirus company, of course. 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:56.760 This quote just, okay, let me just read it. 01:02:56.980 --> 01:03:04.680 And his quote is, it's clear that our consumer business benefited from the rash of blended threats. 01:03:04.680 --> 01:03:07.440 Thanks, numbnuts. 01:03:07.640 --> 01:03:08.680 Yeah, thank you. 01:03:08.900 --> 01:03:11.760 I mean, way to point out the obvious there, Brainiac. 01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:12.360 Good job. 01:03:13.220 --> 01:03:17.300 Did you call Miss Cleo for a backup on that one, or what kind of help did you have? 01:03:17.380 --> 01:03:18.660 I mean, you do homework on that. 01:03:19.240 --> 01:03:20.580 That's the stupidest thing. 01:03:20.580 --> 01:03:26.400 I mean, I talked, oh, jeez, I don't know what episode this was when I talked about blended threats. 01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:31.680 You know, about, as a matter of fact, it might have been the virus episode you and I did the first time. 01:03:32.140 --> 01:03:32.540 Yeah. 01:03:32.540 --> 01:03:38.080 Where he talked about blended threats and how all the different viruses were taking, learning from each other, 01:03:38.180 --> 01:03:42.480 taking different parts and doing multiple things to deliver their payload and stuff. 01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:43.240 Yeah. 01:03:43.240 --> 01:03:49.460 So this guy's saying that, oh, their consumer business benefited from those blended threats. 01:03:50.080 --> 01:03:53.960 Gee, isn't that pretty much what your consumer business is based on? 01:03:54.660 --> 01:03:55.280 Let's see. 01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:00.380 If there are more viruses, maybe your antivirus software is going to sell better. 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:02.240 Good job. 01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:03.300 You know what? 01:04:03.520 --> 01:04:06.860 What other kind of gems of wisdom do you have for us, Buddha? 01:04:06.860 --> 01:04:16.840 Yeah, you got the Dalai Lama over there telling you that, you know, snow chains sell a lot better in, you know, in Alaska. 01:04:17.140 --> 01:04:17.500 Yeah. 01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:22.680 We need, yeah, we really need more people like that in the world. 01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:23.700 We really need intelligence. 01:04:24.160 --> 01:04:24.820 You know what? 01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:25.360 I know why. 01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:28.400 I can see why he is CEO of that company. 01:04:29.200 --> 01:04:30.800 Because he has a master's in business. 01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:31.760 Exactly. 01:04:32.460 --> 01:04:35.680 He's got a master's in business that his mommy and daddy bought for him. 01:04:35.680 --> 01:04:37.460 No, I actually heard. 01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:39.480 I had to take a business class once. 01:04:40.560 --> 01:04:41.400 Was it torture? 01:04:41.820 --> 01:04:50.060 Yeah, and, you know, there was a phrase they used that sort of, that I think that's really applicable to this man's situation. 01:04:50.420 --> 01:04:51.120 And that is? 01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:53.180 Supply and effing demand. 01:04:54.580 --> 01:04:55.800 You know what I mean? 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:56.260 Yeah. 01:04:56.260 --> 01:05:07.380 Thanks for enlightening us on the most simplistic business concept that anybody who's taken any classes in a college setting and the majority of high school students have learned. 01:05:07.720 --> 01:05:12.280 And even those who haven't have enough common sense to figure out on their own. 01:05:12.500 --> 01:05:15.540 Yeah, it's not hard to put two and two together on that one. 01:05:15.540 --> 01:05:15.820 Yeah. 01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:22.060 Well, and, you know, it brought this to mind. 01:05:22.120 --> 01:05:25.760 I don't know if this is a stretch or if I'm going way off track here. 01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:31.160 But it reminds me of the, I think it was actually started as a joke. 01:05:31.240 --> 01:05:39.600 I don't know if it was a Chris Rock joke, but I've heard it in a lot, a lot since where they say that people, they don't treat diseases. 01:05:40.640 --> 01:05:44.540 You're, when they make drugs, they're not trying to cure anything. 01:05:44.540 --> 01:05:47.240 They're not trying to cure diseases. 01:05:47.380 --> 01:05:50.700 They're trying to find a way to let you live with the disease. 01:05:51.120 --> 01:05:54.360 They want to cure the symptoms of the disease. 01:05:54.460 --> 01:05:55.340 They don't want to cure you. 01:05:55.380 --> 01:05:57.780 If they cure you, you're cured. 01:05:58.100 --> 01:05:59.540 You won't buy their drugs anymore. 01:05:59.640 --> 01:06:00.740 They don't make any more money. 01:06:01.640 --> 01:06:10.820 But if they can find a way to just get you through a few more years and make you buy more of their drugs, then they make more money. 01:06:11.160 --> 01:06:12.800 So there's no money in the cure. 01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.460 There's no money in curing these viruses. 01:06:15.680 --> 01:06:18.760 There's no money in fixing and preventing these viruses for Symantec. 01:06:19.240 --> 01:06:25.160 There's money in making you renew the engine every year and download debt files and stuff like that. 01:06:25.240 --> 01:06:26.320 That's where the money is. 01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:28.980 There's no cure. 01:06:29.100 --> 01:06:31.820 There's no money in creating a secure operating system. 01:06:33.160 --> 01:06:35.160 You don't think Microsoft's going to create? 01:06:35.560 --> 01:06:42.780 No, because that's where all their third party, they, you know, they're, they would shut so many people out of business that it's, I mean, come on. 01:06:43.700 --> 01:06:44.000 I don't know. 01:06:44.020 --> 01:06:44.460 Am I reaching? 01:06:44.580 --> 01:06:47.620 Is that a, is that a conspiracy theory or am I way off or what's? 01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:48.760 No, man. 01:06:49.080 --> 01:06:54.380 Pharmaceutical, uh, pharmaceutical companies are still pissed off with all the money they lost with the polio vaccine. 01:06:54.380 --> 01:06:57.200 Yeah, probably. 01:06:57.200 --> 01:07:01.700 But am I, am I making a stretch to say that that's going on in, with software? 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:12.560 I mean, is that a reason to, I wouldn't say they won't make it a secure operating system, but is that a reason to, I mean, actually we've, we've said on, I think we've talked about on the show before. 01:07:12.560 --> 01:07:20.400 And if not, I, I, I've heard that Microsoft is going to be including a, um, virus scanner with, uh, Longhorn. 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:27.100 Well, they, they better let it check for, uh, all sorts of violations in Windows software. 01:07:27.520 --> 01:07:28.080 Yeah, right? 01:07:28.080 --> 01:07:31.800 I have identified a virus on your computer called Windows XP. 01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:34.520 Yes, please remove immediately. 01:07:35.340 --> 01:07:36.520 Press uninstall. 01:07:38.140 --> 01:07:39.460 Oh, all right. 01:07:39.520 --> 01:07:40.660 Well, you know what? 01:07:40.660 --> 01:07:43.040 I think that's a good ending point. 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:43.820 What do you think? 01:07:44.260 --> 01:07:44.840 Good show. 01:07:44.980 --> 01:07:45.460 It's a good ending. 01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:47.460 Good, good, good show. 01:07:47.820 --> 01:07:49.540 Funny show, as always, with you. 01:07:49.900 --> 01:07:50.240 Oh, thank you. 01:07:50.240 --> 01:07:51.400 Always have a good time. 01:07:52.380 --> 01:07:59.380 Um, I guess, let's jump to shout outs, um, I want to shout out to Rocket. 01:07:59.860 --> 01:08:00.640 Rocket Deadhead. 01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:06.780 Everyone at Interz0ne, I've been talking with him some, about some possible projects lately. 01:08:07.240 --> 01:08:09.140 Possible, the key word there, don't, you know. 01:08:09.140 --> 01:08:13.400 Um, and, uh, so I'm going to give shout outs to them, um, Hacking Conference. 01:08:13.560 --> 01:08:15.760 You can go to, uh, well, you know what? 01:08:15.780 --> 01:08:19.740 The site's all over, you know, all over the forums, and, uh, we'll put it up in the show notes. 01:08:19.820 --> 01:08:20.800 But check out Interz0ne. 01:08:21.500 --> 01:08:23.960 And, um, did you have, you want to shout out anybody in particular? 01:08:24.780 --> 01:08:26.440 Uh, just my brother, Dool. 01:08:27.080 --> 01:08:27.600 Your brother? 01:08:28.060 --> 01:08:28.300 Yeah. 01:08:28.420 --> 01:08:29.620 Your brother of another color? 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:30.380 Yeah, yeah. 01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:30.980 Yeah, yeah. 01:08:31.220 --> 01:08:32.340 He's my, he's my white brother. 01:08:32.740 --> 01:08:33.540 Oh, okay. 01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:36.440 Oh, see, now you're a black man this week. 01:08:36.440 --> 01:08:37.600 Last week, I was. 01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:40.240 Rack said I was last week. 01:08:40.780 --> 01:08:41.200 I've got a little bit. 01:08:41.200 --> 01:08:42.880 No, actually, I think Hackenslash said I was. 01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:44.180 I think he interpreted it that way. 01:08:45.780 --> 01:08:46.100 Hmm. 01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:48.920 Um, and the email address, like I said earlier. 01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:50.580 Oh, you know what? 01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:51.020 I am. 01:08:51.120 --> 01:08:57.120 People, someone's going, I'm going to get at least one email of somebody chastising me 01:08:57.120 --> 01:08:59.660 for mixing up Star Trek and Star Wars. 01:08:59.940 --> 01:09:00.700 You know what? 01:09:00.700 --> 01:09:03.420 Star Wars has Wookiees and Ewoks, right? 01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:08.260 And Star Trek has Borg and the Onion-headed guys. 01:09:08.420 --> 01:09:09.160 And the Vulcans. 01:09:09.200 --> 01:09:11.100 And the Vulcans and the Ferengis. 01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:11.920 Klingons. 01:09:12.040 --> 01:09:13.280 That's the one with the big ears, right? 01:09:13.480 --> 01:09:13.780 Yeah. 01:09:14.180 --> 01:09:15.420 And the Klingons, yeah. 01:09:15.420 --> 01:09:23.400 Um, and, uh, oh, and the, the Star Wars has those Sith. 01:09:23.580 --> 01:09:24.900 Is that what the Darth Maul guy was? 01:09:24.940 --> 01:09:25.360 A Sith? 01:09:25.460 --> 01:09:26.200 S-I-T-H? 01:09:26.500 --> 01:09:26.780 Yeah. 01:09:26.780 --> 01:09:34.100 And, and then they later went back in and added some editing CGI elephant creatures and 01:09:34.100 --> 01:09:37.200 Yeah, and Jabba with a hud, like Sully Struthers. 01:09:38.940 --> 01:09:39.700 You know what? 01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:40.480 We'll end with that. 01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:44.780 And as a matter of fact, that's a good, uh, good segue to our closing music tonight. 01:09:45.340 --> 01:09:50.280 Uh, MC Frontalot with a track called Nerdcore Hip Hop. 01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:52.120 Very appropriately named. 01:09:52.440 --> 01:09:52.880 Oh, yeah. 01:09:53.060 --> 01:09:55.020 And, um, that is it. 01:09:55.020 --> 01:09:56.900 Again, Bland, thank you for being on. 01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:57.760 I appreciate it. 01:09:57.920 --> 01:09:58.240 Anytime. 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.460 And, um, we will see. 01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:04.300 I guess we won't see, but we will be back next week. 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:05.540 Same hack time. 01:10:06.360 --> 01:10:07.760 Same hack channel. 01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:09.160 Wiggy wiggy. 01:10:09.400 --> 01:10:09.680 Out. 01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:13.360 Initiating startup sequence. 01:10:14.360 --> 01:10:17.620 MC Frontalot could rock the turntable. 01:10:19.620 --> 01:10:20.780 I'm unable. 01:10:20.780 --> 01:10:26.380 I thought I told you I'm working. 01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:30.540 Nerdcore, hip hop, other rappers running here. 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.640 That I'll put them on the record where the friends could hear. 01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:37.380 They get sneered at, listed, not to be trusted. 01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:40.620 Seen hobnobbing with the front a lot busted. 01:10:40.980 --> 01:10:42.140 That kid's a dork. 01:10:42.220 --> 01:10:43.740 He rhyme every day. 01:10:43.740 --> 01:10:45.460 On the karaoke rappin'. 01:10:45.460 --> 01:10:47.440 Yo, he ain't got anything to say. 01:10:47.540 --> 01:10:49.120 Ain't got no record deal. 01:10:49.220 --> 01:10:49.920 Never will. 01:10:50.040 --> 01:10:50.840 Such a spasm. 01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:53.740 Better get his ass some kind of a sedative. 01:10:54.120 --> 01:10:55.340 Pish posh. 01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:57.200 Man, I'll come as whack as I like. 01:10:57.660 --> 01:10:58.620 Spits back on the mic. 01:10:58.900 --> 01:11:00.600 Dispensing my disingenuous advice. 01:11:01.120 --> 01:11:03.540 Accused famous rappers of biting my style. 01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:04.360 Get shot at. 01:11:04.540 --> 01:11:06.960 Sit at home, trying to simulate me a hi-hat. 01:11:07.200 --> 01:11:07.520 Wishing. 01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:09.880 CPU corocopy. 01:11:10.080 --> 01:11:10.760 And open. 01:11:11.340 --> 01:11:13.360 That if he does, it isn't weak. 01:11:13.540 --> 01:11:13.740 On? 01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:14.100 Wishing. 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:16.500 CPU corocopy. 01:11:16.780 --> 01:11:19.800 Nerdcore, hip hop, good rain supreme. 01:11:22.620 --> 01:11:25.000 We'll make a mention of my DJ. 01:11:25.380 --> 01:11:27.340 CPU nerdcore. 01:11:27.460 --> 01:11:29.780 Hip hop is the style he used. 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:31.080 Step to my DJ. 01:11:31.360 --> 01:11:32.900 You better be prepared. 01:11:32.900 --> 01:11:36.220 He got 28 and 22, 50 and square. 01:11:36.220 --> 01:11:39.640 Just a little bitty bit more than the beat you thought. 01:11:39.780 --> 01:11:40.480 Front a lot. 01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:42.940 Drop kick and rhythm in the double art. 01:11:43.080 --> 01:11:43.360 Sock. 01:11:43.440 --> 01:11:47.060 Skinny little beats, but return with the fat of the land. 01:11:47.120 --> 01:11:49.420 Now I got a swollen hip hop gland. 01:11:49.480 --> 01:11:50.900 I suffer hypochondria. 01:11:51.080 --> 01:11:52.700 I think my beats is sick. 01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:53.560 Don't trip. 01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:56.000 Don't trip. 01:11:56.200 --> 01:11:59.100 I'ma listen to the bootleg MP3. 01:11:59.460 --> 01:12:02.280 Post the front a lot demo on my FTP. 01:12:02.740 --> 01:12:05.860 Run away from the rappers who were just like me. 01:12:05.860 --> 01:12:09.140 Cause they ain't appreciating who my DJ be. 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:10.020 Wishing. 01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:12.360 CPU corocopy. 01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:13.260 And opening. 01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:15.840 What that defeat does, it isn't weak. 01:12:16.020 --> 01:12:16.560 I'm wishing. 01:12:17.540 --> 01:12:18.960 CPU corocopy. 01:12:19.200 --> 01:12:19.840 And opening. 01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.860 Nerdcore, hip hop, good rain supreme. 01:12:22.860 --> 01:12:27.540 What's the matter with you people? 01:12:27.540 --> 01:12:28.420 I was joking. 01:12:29.180 --> 01:12:31.300 Don't you know a joke when you hear one? 01:12:31.320 --> 01:12:47.400 spooky. 01:12:47.460 --> 01:12:47.660 Leon. 01:12:47.700 --> 01:12:47.980 This is the first off to tell me. 01:12:47.980 --> 01:12:50.160 Mike confident. 01:12:50.200 --> 01:12:50.520 I can't believe George. 01:12:50.580 --> 01:12:50.920 Uh magnus. 01:12:51.020 --> 01:12:52.160 I'll be here. 01:12:52.400 --> 01:12:52.840 Hoosh. 01:12:52.940 --> 01:12:53.540 enjoy the hall. 01:12:53.620 --> 01:12:53.640 I love das. 01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:53.920 Hi. 01:12:54.040 --> 01:12:54.140 Yeah. 01:12:54.220 --> 01:12:54.620 Ohなた. 01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:55.620 I love it. 01:12:55.620 --> 01:12:56.480 I love it. 01:12:56.540 --> 01:12:57.660 I love it. 01:12:57.740 --> 01:12:58.020 I love it. 01:12:58.120 --> 01:12:59.020 I love it. 01:12:59.020 --> 01:12:59.700 I love it.