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This The Digital Dog Pound presents Binary Revolution Radio.

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The Digital Dog Pound curiosities realize it as red.

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The Digital Dog Pound promoting damage.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

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My name is Ace and I'm a Leo.

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On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero.

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In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dream cats.

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You need some ISOs?

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Let me do my hard drive rifle.

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Our exchange you could never stifle.

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In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug.

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I bootlegged your CD.

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I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z.

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Your CG, it's all gonna be free.

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Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely.

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You feel that rattle in your bones?

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When I tell you, we just hacked out Jones.

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And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back.

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the creepers.

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Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RAMs, SIFs, SISs.

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack.

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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to Binary Revolution Radio, episode 22.

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Coming to you this day, Tuesday, December 2nd, 2003.

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I am StankDawg.

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And I am joined by one of our favorite co-hosts on the show today, Voodoo Hal.

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Welcome back to the show.

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Man, I'm so touched.

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What's up, everybody?

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And we have a very, very big announcement, breakthrough.

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What do we, I don't even know how to describe our big...

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Changing, life altering.

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Yeah.

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When we get, okay, we're gonna do a little housekeeping first.

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When we got an announcement, we found some information.

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Not through any subversive means.

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We just actually bothered to read and pay attention to what's going on.

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Whereas, apparently, a lot of other people have not.

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And we will talk about that in a little bit.

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But like I said, let's go straight into the housekeeping.

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The smoking gun can wait, I guess.

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First thing I want to talk about is some changes to Rant Radio.

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Now, we've talked about in the past how Rant Radio has split into three channels.

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And we are now streaming on the Rant Radio talk channel.

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Now, obviously, we all know that because you're listening to us on that channel.

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However, the change, the new thing now is that Rant Radio is going to begin airing past episodes of Binary Revolution Radio.

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They're going to add them into the rotation and play back episodes during the day along with Sean Kennedy and their other regular shows.

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So, we're going to hopefully reach a wider audience in the middle of the day, in the middle of the night.

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If you feel like getting your Jones on for a little hacking information, you can catch up on those old shows.

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Or if you're sitting at work and you want to listen, you can hop on to Rant Radio talk and check out.

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They're going to be played in kind of a random order.

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There's no control over what order they go in.

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But I like to think, for the most part, they stand alone.

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We don't really make it a habit of following.

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We might follow up with some emails occasionally.

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But for the most part, the shows stand alone, I think.

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Is that the case?

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Yeah, they seem to.

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I like to keep them self-encompassed so that if you miss one, you don't really feel like you're out of the loop or anything.

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So, they're going to start mixing those into the rotation, which is very cool.

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Like I said, hopefully we'll get some new listeners with that.

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For example, maybe people who go to Shoutcast or are looking for Hacking Radio, when they search,

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we will start coming up on some of those searches.

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If they do a search for hack and we happen to be on, they might find us and discover us that way and start listening.

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So, that is a very good thing, and we are appreciative of Rant Radio for that.

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And that should be happening really any day now, if it hasn't already, by the time this airs.

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I've already uploaded the high-quality shows.

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These are going to be the high-bit rate versions, like we always stream.

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And they already have them at Rant Radio, so it's just a matter of getting them into the rotation,

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which could be any day now.

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So, that is very cool.

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Oh, we have to throw in a reminder.

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Again, this is December 2nd, so upcoming this Friday are 2,600 meetings.

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This is December the 5th.

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So, Friday after school, after work, make sure you head out to your local 2,600 meetings.

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If you're a regular, by all means, make sure you go.

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Don't miss it.

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And if you're a newcomer, go check it out.

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Feel it out.

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See what you think.

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It's December.

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Everybody's in a good, happy mood.

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I'm sure they'll be accommodating of new people.

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So, anybody who wants to show up to the 2,600 meetings, I know Hal.

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I know you guys are always very accommodating and welcoming of new people.

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So, I think that's pretty much the general consensus for everybody.

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We try to be open-armed, for lack of a better term.

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I have actually quite a few emails to talk about.

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The first one, and Hal, I don't know if you listened to last week's episode or not, but the last couple episodes, actually, we talked about Bluetooth a little bit on both of them.

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Well, Nick84 sent me an email.

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Good to hear from him again, by the way.

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I haven't heard from him in a while.

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I know he's been tied up with school and things like that.

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So, good to hear from him.

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But he emailed me and corrected me about the Blue Jack Q site that we mentioned, bluejackandtheletterq.com.

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I mentioned on the show, and I talked about what bluejacking was, but I mentioned on the show that it was run and created by this 13-year-old kid running the site.

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And how cool I thought that was to see a young person doing something like this and having fun with it.

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It's very, very energizing, I guess is a good term, to see that.

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Very, very good feeling.

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But at some point, apparently, I must have said dude or something like that.

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It was a 13-year-old dude.

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Well, not exactly.

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It turns out that the person running that site, who goes by the name Jelly Ellie, is a 13-year-old young lady.

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So, I just wanted to set the record straight, just in case she was listening or someone was listening.

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Let's put the truth out there.

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There's a 13-year-old young lady running a very cool site.

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Nothing changes there.

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So, I just wanted to put that out there.

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Thank you, Nick, for letting me know about that.

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And I also got a couple emails about the other Bluetooth topic we talked about.

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And that is snarfing, or the snarf attack, a Bluetooth snarf attack.

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I mentioned that I had done some research and done some reading.

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I've read the DEF CON presentation.

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I've seen the posts to the vulnerabilities lists and stuff like that.

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And I had some people cut and paste that stuff to me and send me links.

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And they still do not have detailed information on how to do the snarf attack.

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They all claim that it exists, and they claim that they can do it, but nobody posts proof of how to snarf using Bluetooth.

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I still have not seen it.

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Have you seen, VoodooHall, have you seen this in action, or have you heard details of how this works?

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No, but I think I'm going to start doing some research on my own as well.

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Yeah, I did some mediocre research.

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I didn't do real, real deep.

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I mean, I could really hit some underground stuff and look, but I did some pretty tentative searching,

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some pretty medium searching, and I did not see any details.

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It was just unsubstantiated claims, even some offers saying they could prove this to the press if need be.

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Well, I'm the press.

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Prove it to me.

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I still haven't seen anything, so until I see some more details that I can question and go through it and go,

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yeah, that sounds right, or no, that doesn't sound like it would work, or, you know, something like that,

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I'm still not sold.

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I'm not saying it's not true.

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I'm just saying I have to see it to believe it, and that's pretty much my motto on life.

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Well, you guys don't hear from me for about a month.

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It's because I was arrested for stalking a suit who had a Bluetooth phone while doing testing.

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Exactly.

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What was the term you said earlier?

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I jokingly referred to that as line-of-sight networking because of the limited range.

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No, it was the personal area networks.

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Personal area networks.

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There's probably the not politically correct term, I guess you'd say, the official term.

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I think that's what it is, yeah.

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Sounds a little, well, I'll leave it alone.

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Yeah.

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So, if somebody wants to send me detailed information, I'd be glad to read it,

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and I'm, again, looking on my own, but I just haven't seen anything.

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I've been to bluesniff.schmoo.com.

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That's like the site that's software that's supposed to be able to do some of this stuff.

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Unfortunately, I don't have a Bluetooth phone that I can put this on and try some of this,

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or I can test against the phone anyway.

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So, I can't try the actual software, but even reading about the software,

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I didn't see any detailed specs saying that it could snarf and how it could snarf and I don't know.

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So, a friend of mine made a good point today in class.

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He just bought a new Mac, and we were talking about Bluetooth keyboards and things like that.

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And Microsoft actually sends a small Bluetooth, I don't know what to call it, base transmitter, I guess,

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for the people who don't already have Bluetooth support.

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So, I'm wondering if you could just buy one of those, pop it onto your USB drive,

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and run around with it like it was a standard Bluetooth device, or not necessarily device,

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but a Bluetooth transmitter, receiver, base station thing.

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Hmm.

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Well, you'd have to write some kind of application interface to gather information and put it to the USB drive.

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Right.

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And I don't know, I wouldn't know really where to begin with that, actually.

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Something that's constantly active as though a server or a TSR program,

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but you can't execute something on a, well, anyway, I don't know.

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Potentially, yeah, I guess it's an interesting idea.

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Don't know if it could actually work.

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Oh, and, yeah, so if somebody has information on snorting, you know how to get in touch with us.

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I also have a correction to last week.

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Well, I guess this is a second one, because actually mentioning Jelly Ellie calling her a dude was a mistake,

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so I apologize there.

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But I also just had just a total brain fart last week when I was talking,

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I guess because I had my mind in the whole cell phone thing,

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I mistakenly, I was talking about the treasure hunt game,

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and I accidentally said GSM.

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It's not GSM.

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I had cell phone on the brain or something.

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I had my technologies mixed up.

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What I meant to say, and obviously, and several people pointed this out,

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is GPS, global positioning system.

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That's what I was meant to say, and somehow I said the wrong thing.

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Now, the game I was talking to, I did do some subsequent research,

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and it's called Geocaching, G-E-O-C-A-C-H-I-N-G.com,

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and there are others besides that one, but that's the particular one.

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And it is, like I described, it's a treasure hunt,

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where people can go out there and post the absolute coordinates

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of where they've buried these time capsules and treasures and stuff like that,

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and then people can go on there and find that and take their GPS device.

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See, I got it right that time, GPS device, and go out there and find that.

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So, correcting myself, that was just a total slip of the tongue.

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So, anybody who is interested in that, definitely go check that out.

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And in the forums, there is a thread started for that now by the person correcting me.

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So, I'm sure he would be happy, he or she, I think it's a he, would be happy.

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Well, see, I shouldn't say that, and I'll be doing a correction next week.

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We'll just say this person would probably be happy.

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Oh, we've got to be PC now?

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Yeah, we've got to be careful, I guess.

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Well, you know what?

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No, because I'm about to go slap off in a couple seconds with a patented stank dog rant.

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But before I do, let me just...

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Get the mothers out of the room, get the kids in the next...

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Yeah, I...

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You know what?

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And at the top of my show notes, and you can vouch for this,

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and anybody who's been on the show can vouch,

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at the very top of my show notes, I list the intro music,

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I put a note to remind myself to start the timer,

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which we always go over.

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I never got in a 60-minute show in there less.

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And I have a note that says,

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Control your language, don't curse so much.

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I just deleted it this week.

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I knew there's no way I'm going to do this,

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because it's about one of my favorite companies,

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and yes, that's sarcasm.

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Well, you know what?

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Let me just close up.

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Okay, let me just round out the housekeeping section.

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That was it.

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Geocaching.com, if you want to check out what I mentioned.

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And like I said, go to the forums,

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and there's at least one thread out there,

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and I'm sure there's other people that might be interested.

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So, go check that out.

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And that's all I have for the old mailbag.

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Now, before I talk about my rant,

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you know what?

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Let me get a sip of iced tea here before I blow my throat out.

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Okay.

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The nectar of life when you live in the South, right?

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Yeah, exactly.

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Got to have my super sweet iced tea.

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Homemade, by the way.

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Well, of course.

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Lots of high fructose toys.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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Got to put all that sugar in there.

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It's not sweet.

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It's not good sweet iced tea,

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unless when you're done with a pitcher,

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there's still sugar granules left in the bottom.

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That's good iced tea.

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Anyway, I spent the beginning of this week,

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I finally got some time.

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We had the holidays.

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I was off for a couple days,

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and had a nice long four-day weekend.

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And I finally got caught up on a lot of little things

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that I had left not finished,

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and in particular, my writing.

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When I write, I've got several articles

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that are pretty close to being completed

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and in various stages of being completed.

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But I don't like to just...

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I like to take my time and edit my own work.

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I'm very critical.

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I want to go back and make sure I find any spelling mistakes,

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grammar mistakes, factual mistakes, of course.

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I don't want to put anything in there that's incorrect.

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So I'm very picky.

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I don't just finish it,

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give it the once-over, and send it out.

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I like to sit on it for a couple days,

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look at it again like a week later with fresh eyes

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to make sure that I can understand

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and comprehend my own writing.

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So I had several articles in that stage.

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So during the holidays,

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I finally put the finishing touches

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on some of those articles.

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I sent two into 2,600.

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I already had one into 2,600 about a month ago.

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I'm not sure if that got in in time

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or if they just weren't interested in it.

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But that makes a total of three articles

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into 2,600 right now.

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And I also sent one into Frack for the first time.

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I've never submitted anything to Frack.

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And frankly, I'm a little skeptical on this one

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because while I like it,

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I think it's a really good article

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and how, without giving the topic away,

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this is the one I had sent you to proofread

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to help proofread one time.

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Right.

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I sent you a very early version of it

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and I went through and edited it myself,

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formatted it well,

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and the format that Frack likes.

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But it's very much a mathematics

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and statistics article

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and less really on computing directly.

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It's an underground topic in mathematics

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and it's an interesting,

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at least I thought it was,

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but I'm not sure if they're only going to do strictly computers

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and historically that is what they do.

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So I don't know if it's really their style of content,

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but I figured I'd give them a shot

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and see what they thought of it

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and if not, then we'll take it somewhere else.

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And other than those,

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I started editing the 1.3,

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BinRev 1.3 submissions.

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So, that is still ongoing.

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That takes some time

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because we got some really detailed articles this time

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and I'm working on that.

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Unfortunately, it's going a little slow.

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I've been swamped at work,

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but we are.

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It is still in process.

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It's going and it will be out

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as soon as we can possibly get it out to you.

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So, I appreciate everybody that's asking for it

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and we will try to get it out to you ASAP.

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Duel is helping and offered to help

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do some editing

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and Logan, he's basically waiting on us

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to get him some stuff to get going.

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So, it is in process.

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Now, did you have...

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Before I go into this...

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I just know I'm not going to be able to control myself.

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So, maybe you should...

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You should bring something up for a second

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before I go...

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Just slap off.

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Uh, unfortunately, I've been a lazy ass

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since the last time I was on

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doing pretty much nothing for the most part.

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Well, real life.

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I know you've been working some sick hours lately.

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Oh, God.

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Yeah, 10 straight days, 12 hours a day.

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Woo!

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Count them, 120 hours.

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Mo' money, mo' money, mo' money.

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No shit.

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Find a new server.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, and you've got some very good plans for that.

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Actually, you know, maybe...

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Is this a good time to talk about that?

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Or did you want to keep that under wraps

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until you actually implement?

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Uh, which one are we talking about?

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The big L?

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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We could talk about that.

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I think people would be interested in it.

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Yeah, I know your other server that you're talking about.

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Yeah, you can...

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Why don't you talk about that...

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Talk about that project for a few minutes.

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All right.

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Well, one thing I've suggested with everybody,

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and hopefully we're going to do it,

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is setting up an LDAP server,

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which is, for me, if you don't know what it is,

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lightweight directory services.

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And what we're going to try to do is...

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And add a couple little hacks to the board as well

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so that people who use net meeting or no meeting,

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which they both should work just fine

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and use the same protocols,

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can access them and show who's online

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and what we can do is hopefully have

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the site underneath someone's name on their post

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and show if they're available to chat

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and basically do voice communication through the board

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and have this LDAP directory

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so that we can have this kind of thing.

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Yeah, I think that's very cool.

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It's not the same as a conference.

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It's not the same as a con line,

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but at least we'd have a lot more control over it.

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You'd have control over who you connected to, obviously,

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so you wouldn't connect to guests

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or people who are going to mess around.

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And you can actually...

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Is this going to...

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It can be chat.

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It can be voice.

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Are we also going to support video?

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Hell, I mean, it's supported by the team,

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so it's nothing that we have to necessarily support.

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So if the two people...

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Already supported, yeah.

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As long as the two people have their video cameras or something set up,

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we can have this so that two people can chat to each other in real time,

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face-to-face.

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Exactly.

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It could be very, very cool.

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And, of course, it's not required.

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You can do voice.

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You can do whatever.

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But, yeah, basically, any time,

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as long as the other person is online,

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I think that's a very, very cool thing.

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I'm looking forward to it.

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I think it could be fun anyway.

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And for everyone who decides to go with video,

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remember to turn that auto-accept invitations off

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because no one wants to see your naked ass

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when you've just got out of the shower.

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Exactly.

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Oh, look, StankDawg's on the phone.

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I won't put any clothes on.

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I'll just IM him right away with my camera on.

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Or even where somebody messages you,

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and if you've got it automatically set up to accept,

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you don't know about it.

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Oh, Vida Guerrero, you're so hot.

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Bling!

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Oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry.

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That was embarrassing.

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Do I see Bland dancing around in his room

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singing the sound of music?

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Yeah.

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Buck naked with a sock hanging from his crotch.

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That's a great visual.

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And his big, well-hung dog trailing around behind him.

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Boy, there's an image to put in everyone's mind.

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Okay, well, you know what?

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Speaking of images, I might as well get this over with.

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I am so insanely pissed off.

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See, I took the language warning off

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because I am just so fucking pissed off at America Online.

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I have AOL Instant Messenger.

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I don't particularly like Trillion.

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Yeah, don't send me hate mail.

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I just, it doesn't, Trillion has never supported video conferencing and audio and stuff like that in the past.

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I don't know if it does now.

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Don't even bother trying to convince me.

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I prefer just having the separate clients running and starting them up when I want to use them.

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So, A-O-fucking-L, in their infinite wisdom, has decided,

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everybody knows that there's the little, I don't know if you call it a banner ad,

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but that little button ad thing that's at the top of the AOL Instant Message client,

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they're, they have decided now to send streaming fucking video down there

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instead of just being a picture or a graphic that I can ignore,

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and I've gotten really good at ignoring banner ads.

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I don't even see them half the time unless they pop up at me or make noise.

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I've got a streaming fucking movie blaring at me

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through the AOL Instant Message chat client.

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That's fucking sick!

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That's absolutely sick and too damn intrusive.

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They've, they've completely blown any chance of being a corporate office-used application.

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You can't have AOL Messenger and all of a sudden,

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you're streaming movies and sound through people's speakers in the middle of their office place.

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It's ludicrous.

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I don't even know who sat around and came up with this idea.

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Whoever it is needs to be kicked dead square on in the balls and or cooch,

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whatever the case may be.

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I'm so pissed off that it's not even, it's not even good

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because, it's not even executed well, I should say,

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because it locks the damn client up.

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I can't even click on the X to kill it.

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It's not even, you know, it's, it locks up the system.

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I have to go to Task Manager and kill the damn process to get rid of the stupid thing.

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It's the dumbest idea that I've ever heard of.

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Whatever executive or whatever, whoever made this decision,

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they want to squeeze every bit of advertising they can.

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They're going to put these obtrusive, intrusive, excuse me, ads on these things.

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The next thing it's going to be, you know, they're, they're delivering it obviously.

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They can deliver this type of content.

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And everybody hates those, what are they, flash ads, like the Hulk ad that came out for a while there,

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and all those cars where the car races across your browser screen and stuff.

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Now, with AOL Messenger, what's going to stop that from just being completely on my screen?

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Damn Ford Escort races across my screen.

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Buy Ford.

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Fuck you.

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I am going to uninstall this damn client and switch to Trilliant out of sheer principle,

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or, unfortunately, there's too many people that are using AIM that I need to communicate with.

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I would switch completely to one of the other clients.

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But the more dangerous thing about this is, besides the fucking annoyance factor of the whole thing,

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is, when you right click on that, if it's not locked up and frozen, which it is 99% of the time,

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if you right click on the ad itself, there are properties to that.

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And you can look under the properties, under the, I forget what it's called, statistics, properties, info, something like that.

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It tells you what, what codecs are used.

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I don't remember installing any fucking codecs.

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AOL, if you are pushing this fucking software without asking me, without permission,

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if you are forcing codecs onto my system that could potentially interfere with the operation of my computer,

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that's fucked up and it's damn right illegal.

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You cannot install software on my system without my accepting the licensing agreement.

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And I don't remember seeing in the AOL client, and I haven't updated it in a long time,

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I find it hard to believe it's been dormant all this time, as part of the client.

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I think they pushed, I'm popping my P's in the microphone,

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I think they pushed the codec down through their client and installed it on my system without my permission,

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video and audio codecs, and then the content behind it.

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And if that's true, that is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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My system has been screwed up.

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It's been crashing, it doesn't want to reboot sometimes.

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Yeah, it's because it's Windows XP, which sucks dog ass.

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But on top of that, now, I don't know if AOL has installed some shit on it that's conflicting with something else.

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It's not compatible with my video or sound card.

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Who knows?

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You've added an X factor that most people don't know about that could potentially...

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I mean, what if this was a production system in an office environment or a server or something?

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Obviously, ideally, you wouldn't want the messenger client on some type of server like that.

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But, you know, in an office somewhere that can have it,

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and you're taking down people's work machines?

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That's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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If somehow, some office gets screwed up or loses data,

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oh my God, sell your AOL Time Warner stock,

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because they are about to get sued the fuck out of the water.

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You know, it's...

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I don't think I've given this out in a while.

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I'm going to give AOL the fucktard, the fucknut of the month award.

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I'm going to switch it to the fucktard of the month award.

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They're fucking idiots.

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I don't know how else to say...

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I can't...

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I don't think I can say it without bad words,

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because there aren't any polite words good enough to get the point across.

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They're fucking idiots.

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Well, let's have a little history lesson real quick.

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Back in the day, some people may remember these things called dial-up modems

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that connected at slow-ass speeds.

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Now then, your average home user with a dial-up modem would connect

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and maybe start up AIM.

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Can you imagine now having to download video that you didn't want to have

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or didn't want to see now being downloaded for you on your slow-ass dial-up modem?

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Yeah.

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There are still people at 56k.

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There's still people at 28.8 and probably less out there in some places.

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And, yeah, streaming audio and video?

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Forget about it.

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It's just...

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It's greedy, greedy advertising.

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They're looking for advertising dollars.

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I've said it on the show many times.

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It's the almighty dollar.

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That's what it all comes down to.

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They want to get a couple extra bucks from this movie,

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and I'm not even going to say the name of the movie

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because fuck them.

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They're not getting any advertising from me.

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They can suck my hairy nutsack before I mention their name on the air.

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They get the fuck nut of the month award.

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AOL...

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Fuck you, AOL Time Warner.

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Take that clip.

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Repeat it 500 times.

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Fuck you, AOL Time Warner.

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500 times.

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And that's how I feel about it.

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Now, there was an article in 2600,

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probably, gosh, maybe even a year or more ago

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about blocking those ads.

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Do you have any idea if that still works

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or did they fix that in a later client or something?

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I have no idea,

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but I'm assuming it's probably requesting it from somewhere.

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So if you can figure out which ad server it's requesting it from

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and block it at the firewall level,

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it's a toast anyway.

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Yeah.

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Unless they're going to bring it back over the same port

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that you're connected on,

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which I seriously doubt.

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Well, you know, the easier solution is what I said.

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Just get the fuck rid of it.

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Exactly.

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I think maybe it's time for me to give Trillian a try again.

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Maybe that's my excuse to give Trillian a shot again.

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With a nice theme, Trillian can be all right.

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You know, the default theme looks pretty ugly.

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Well, does it still lack support for video and audio conferencing

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through the individual protocols?

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Yeah, I believe so.

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But that's the file to use games, so.

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Hmm.

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Yeah, all right.

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Well, I'm going to have to do a little research

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and come up with another solution

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because I am not about to have that...

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Now, I'll never know.

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I'll also never have peace of mind

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whether my system is screwed up

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because they've installed something on it.

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It's called a virus.

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It's illegal.

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You installed some shit on my computer

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without my permission.

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It's only legal when big business doesn't do it.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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And what else?

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You know, I'm supposed to trust AOL Time Warner.

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That's all.

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Oh, no, it was only video and audio codecs.

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Well, did you pull information at the same time?

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Did you scan my computer for something?

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Did you...

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I don't know what the hell you've done.

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You've crossed a...

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Well, there's also a great, great, great hack.

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Can you imagine all these, like, corporate clients

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who've all decided to use AIM,

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and if you could manage to intercept that stream

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and have, like, a porn video

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running that top thing for everybody?

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Oh, man.

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That would be great.

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How embarrassing would that be?

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That's why I said they've blown any chance

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of being a corporate solution.

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You know, I use AOL Messenger at work

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to communicate with other people at work

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on for work topics.

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And there are several companies right now

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competing to get that niche market of only

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because companies, corporations,

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don't like the big messengers

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because they know that people have a tendency

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to get on and chat with friends and family online.

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And they don't want you to do that, obviously.

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You're at work.

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You should only be communicating

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with your fellow employees.

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So they're rolling out corporate solutions

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to give you instant messaging

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within the corporation, within the company

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that won't reach outside.

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It's customized for internal use only.

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And a lot of those are custom versions

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of existing clients.

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I think Yahoo has a corporate version

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that you can use Yahoo's protocols

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and software to do.

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Lotus makes one, I believe.

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I don't know what theirs is called

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or what it's based on,

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but Lotus has one that integrates

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with the notes package

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and all their other stuff

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for internal communication.

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AOL just blew any shot at that.

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There went all their credibility.

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So those guys trying to squeeze

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a little extra couple pennies

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out of advertising

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blew an entire potential market.

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So good job.

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Way to think ahead, guys.

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It's fucktards.

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Well, what's even worse

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is not only having your corporate users

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chatting with their friends and family

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and whoever the hell else they want at work,

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where a world constantly communicates

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back to the home server.

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Constantly.

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And in an environment with 5,000 users,

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you could probably consume a T1

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with just the data from AIM

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if you have 5,000 plus users.

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Oh, man.

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I'm going to have to...

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Well, I don't know what I'm going to do.

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I'm probably going to switch to Trillian.

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Probably going to switch to Trillian

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or something similar.

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Well, with that out of the way,

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I think I might maintain some control

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because the rest of the show for me

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is going to be pretty fun, I think.

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Oh, yeah.

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This is definitely going to be fun.

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And actually, this might be, I guess,

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we're talking about, you know,

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we're in our little personal hacking section

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and I know what you've been spending time,

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besides all the work and stuff,

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is you were doing a little undercover work.

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Is that a good...

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Yeah, maybe a little.

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So, how do you want to start this one?

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Well, I guess...

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Well...

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Hmm.

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You know, this is just so funny

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and I don't know...

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There's no delicate way to approach it.

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Yeah, fuck it.

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There's no...

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Basically, the big hack, guys.

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The big hack.

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And boy, is it.

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I am coming right out on the radio right now

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to tell you the big hack

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is definitely a big hack.

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So, for all of you,

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you've seen about it,

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you've heard about it,

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you've heard people raving about it.

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No pun intended.

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You've heard people talking about

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what this project is.

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But,

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the irony here,

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the funny,

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the humor to me, anyway,

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is not what this project

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is supposed to be,

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but it's what this project

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actually is.

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Is it the big hack?

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Is it a big hack?

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Yes.

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I'd have to say it is.

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Is that...

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You think?

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Oh, definitely.

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Probably one of the biggest

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I've seen in a while.

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It is a big hack, alright.

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Let me...

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You know what?

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Probably the best thing

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is to read...

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Give me a little leeway here

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and let me read this to you

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because I think

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this explains it better.

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The short version is

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that the big hack

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is fiction.

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Now, what do I mean by that?

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Because even I had to read

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a couple times

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because my jaw dropped.

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I'm like,

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what?

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Let me read to you

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the description

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written by the creators

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of the big hack.

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and that is...

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This information comes

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from Hackback.org.

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Here's the people

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that are running

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the big hack.

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H-A-C-K-B-A-C-K.

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Hackback.org.

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Quote,

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The site you are about

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to enter

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is fiction.

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The story takes place

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in the present day

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at the present time.

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Many current events

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will make their way

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into the story.

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Please do not fool yourself

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into confusing this

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with reality.

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It is not.

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This is entirely fiction.

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It is simply

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a fun house

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for your intellect.

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Think of the big hack

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as a high-tech,

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quote,

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host your own

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murder mystery dinner.

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Like any book or play,

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it has been completely

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authored in advance.

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It will progress

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from introduction

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through pre-planned

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story threads

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and build to a final

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intriguingly scripted

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climax.

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It will not seem

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like this is impossible.

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It is.

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Do not fool yourself.

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Many will.

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Oh, many will.

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Many did.

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Many have.

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The big hack

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is immersive fiction.

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Those are your words,

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people.

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Immersive fiction.

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And if,

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to take a pause

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out of reading here

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for a second,

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we talked,

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Rax and I mentioned

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about how immersive

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the matrix was

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and how you felt

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like you were a part of it.

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Immersive fiction

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is what this is.

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Now,

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go back to reading this.

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The big hack

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is immersive fiction.

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The characters

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in this interactive world

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will not acknowledge

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this truth.

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Please do not

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attempt to induce

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them to.

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This merely points

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out the obvious,

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much like telling

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the person next to you

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in a theater

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that the movie

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is not real.

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This behavior

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is considered

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annoying and childish.

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Repeated attempts

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to do so are grounds

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for inactivating

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your character.

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there is one other

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restriction on use

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of the big hack.

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Okay,

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now listen carefully

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to this voodoo house

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because this is the problem.

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Okay,

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there is one other

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restriction on use

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of the big hack.

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Due to the potential

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for confusion,

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external linking

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to the big hack.org

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site

40:46.120 --> 40:47.620
is expressly

40:47.620 --> 40:49.100
prohibited,

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including all URLs

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within the big hack.org

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in the domain

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using any protocol.

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This includes

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the root page

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as well as

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all subpages.

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Linking by search engines

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is also

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expressly prohibited.

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Now,

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I hope everyone

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listening,

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I emphasized the words,

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I read that

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as clearly as I could

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with my southern accent.

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God,

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I got an urge

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for a snow cone

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right now.

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I'm going to

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summarize

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what we just read.

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This is the land

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of make-believe people.

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We're back on

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Mr. Rogers'

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neighborhood here.

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The big hack

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is

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fake.

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Anybody who

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thinks that you

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are writing

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some kind of

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application

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that's going to

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blow the lid

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off the copyright

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industry

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and you

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think you're

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over there

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posting thousands

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of posts

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and getting all

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into this project,

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you

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are being

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played.

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Literally.

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Like a game.

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Because it

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is a game.

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It's

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fiction.

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The problem

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was that last

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paragraph.

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And actually,

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they're contradicting

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themselves in this.

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It says

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that they will

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not acknowledge

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this truth.

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They don't want you

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to talk about it.

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Don't ask them

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to talk about it.

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They want you

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to be immersed

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or they don't

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want you to

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come out

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and admit

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that it's

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fake.

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Yet at the

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same time,

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if nobody

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knows it's

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fake,

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everybody

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thinks it's

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real.

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So everybody

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over there,

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I'd be just

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insanely

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interested to

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find out who

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knows what

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they're doing

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and why they're

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doing it and

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that this is

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a big,

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and I

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apologize for

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saying this,

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but a big

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waste of

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time if you

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think you're

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developing a

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productive,

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useful application

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that is.

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It's not a waste

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of time in that

42:50.120 --> 42:51.300
you could possibly

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learn a lot from

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it and writing

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some code and

42:53.220 --> 42:53.440
stuff.

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But if you

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think you're in

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some big

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world-changing

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event,

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you're not.

42:56.800 --> 42:57.260
You're in a

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choose-your-own-adventure

42:58.120 --> 42:58.680
story.

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You remember

42:59.800 --> 43:00.380
those from when

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we were a kid?

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Turn to page

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437 for

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Do you swing

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your sword at

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the ogre or

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do you cast

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your spell?

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Turn to page

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This is

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completely

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fiction and I

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find it

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utterly amazing.

43:17.180 --> 43:18.220
From the

43:18.220 --> 43:18.760
get-go,

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fundamentally,

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I had problems

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with the whole

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concept of

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this would never

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hold up in any

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court.

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Copyright would

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eat this alive.

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It's not

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fundamentally sound.

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It's not based

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on a good

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foundation.

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And we've

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talked about that

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before and that's

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why I purposely

43:34.140 --> 43:34.960
stayed away from

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the whole thing

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and stayed away

43:35.960 --> 43:36.500
from the topic.

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But as far as

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it being the

43:42.060 --> 43:42.720
big hack,

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this thing

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fished in

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several people,

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hundreds if not

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thousands,

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easily hundreds

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that are registered

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on the site and

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stuff like that,

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including

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someone very

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close to this

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conversation.

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Yeah,

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I don't know

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who.

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Yeah,

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of course you

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were undercover

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for the good of

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the team,

44:04.000 --> 44:07.160
but a lot of

44:07.160 --> 44:08.000
people got fished

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in and are

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partaking in this

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and putting their

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everything into

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this and not

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knowing that

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they're being

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played.

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And that's not

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cool in my

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personal opinion.

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I guess we

44:21.820 --> 44:22.280
could call this

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the big irony

44:23.080 --> 44:23.820
is the next

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thing about

44:25.560 --> 44:26.800
the submission

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of content.

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Yeah,

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you know,

44:29.220 --> 44:29.960
the second

44:29.960 --> 44:30.800
part of this

44:30.800 --> 44:32.380
story is,

44:33.420 --> 44:33.820
well,

44:34.320 --> 44:34.940
first of all,

44:35.120 --> 44:36.340
hackback.org.

44:36.660 --> 44:37.300
They're giving

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contradictory messages

44:38.200 --> 44:38.680
like I said.

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If you look on

44:39.760 --> 44:40.640
the site and

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read, and by all

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means, don't take

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our word for it,

44:43.120 --> 44:44.040
go check it out

44:44.040 --> 44:44.700
and read it for

44:44.700 --> 44:45.500
yourself and find

44:45.500 --> 44:46.120
out that it's fake

44:46.120 --> 44:46.520
because they have

44:46.520 --> 44:47.100
other upcoming

44:47.100 --> 44:47.880
projects as well.

44:49.200 --> 44:50.040
They come out

44:50.040 --> 44:50.540
and say that

44:50.540 --> 44:51.020
they don't want

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to come out

44:52.060 --> 44:52.540
and admit that

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it's fake.

44:52.960 --> 44:53.240
They don't want

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to tell anybody.

44:54.980 --> 44:55.540
Does anybody

44:55.540 --> 44:56.160
know that

44:56.160 --> 44:57.540
hackback.org

44:57.540 --> 44:58.100
is actually

44:58.100 --> 44:59.760
fronting the

44:59.760 --> 45:00.400
big hack?

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Everybody thinks

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that the big

45:02.120 --> 45:03.060
hack.org is its

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own thing,

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this digital

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dowd or digital

45:05.180 --> 45:06.580
dude, which

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sounds awfully

45:07.120 --> 45:07.800
close to digital

45:07.800 --> 45:08.260
dog pound,

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but I'm not

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even going to

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go there.

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Or running

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some big,

45:13.680 --> 45:13.840
you know,

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this is some

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big hacking

45:14.940 --> 45:15.760
breakthrough,

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this big hack.

45:16.920 --> 45:18.280
Well, no.

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And here's

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the super

45:21.520 --> 45:22.140
irony of the

45:22.140 --> 45:22.620
whole thing.

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You know

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what the

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whole story

45:24.480 --> 45:25.000
and idea

45:25.000 --> 45:25.560
is based

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on?

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It's a

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little something

45:28.280 --> 45:29.360
called the

45:29.360 --> 45:30.220
big con.

45:31.820 --> 45:32.380
Ironically,

45:32.700 --> 45:33.700
they conned

45:33.700 --> 45:34.780
a lot of

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people into

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this.

45:36.780 --> 45:37.720
So, this

45:37.720 --> 45:38.340
is just

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hilarious to

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me.

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Absolutely

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hilarious.

45:43.120 --> 45:43.340
Now,

45:44.400 --> 45:45.140
what Buddha

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Hal was

45:45.620 --> 45:46.240
alluding to

45:46.240 --> 45:46.780
is I'm

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going to

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do a

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little bit

45:47.380 --> 45:47.920
more reading

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for you

45:48.520 --> 45:49.400
because if

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you do

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some more

45:50.480 --> 45:50.840
reading on

45:50.840 --> 45:51.560
the details

45:51.560 --> 45:52.440
of this

45:52.440 --> 45:53.200
and their

45:53.200 --> 45:53.820
disclaimers

45:53.820 --> 45:54.100
and their

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legal mumbo

45:55.800 --> 45:56.220
jumbo,

45:56.340 --> 45:56.620
for lack

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of a better

45:56.960 --> 45:57.300
term,

45:57.680 --> 45:58.200
I stumbled

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across this

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little tidbit.

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It's number

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seven on their

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legals page.

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It's submission

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of content

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on this

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website.

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And it

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says,

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quote,

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by providing

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any content

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to our

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website,

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A,

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you agree

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to grant

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to us

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a worldwide,

46:15.360 --> 46:16.260
royalty-free,

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perpetual,

46:17.760 --> 46:18.420
non-exclusive

46:18.420 --> 46:18.900
right and

46:18.900 --> 46:19.360
license,

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including any

46:20.820 --> 46:21.380
moral rights

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and other

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necessary rights

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to use,

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display,

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reproduce,

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modify,

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adapt,

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publish,

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distribute,

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perform,

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promote,

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archive,

46:28.080 --> 46:28.400
translate,

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and to

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create derivative

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works and

46:30.920 --> 46:31.700
compilations,

46:32.120 --> 46:32.760
in whole or

46:32.760 --> 46:33.220
in part.

46:33.840 --> 46:34.620
Such license

46:34.620 --> 46:35.300
will apply

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with respect

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to any

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form,

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media,

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technology

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known or

46:39.840 --> 46:40.400
later

46:40.400 --> 46:41.180
developed.

46:41.900 --> 46:42.520
If you

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send us

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creative

46:43.380 --> 46:44.040
suggestions,

46:44.320 --> 46:44.760
ideas,

46:44.960 --> 46:45.280
notes,

46:45.460 --> 46:45.880
drawings,

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or other

46:46.340 --> 46:47.000
information,

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collectively

46:48.240 --> 46:49.240
referred to

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now as

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the

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submissions,

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the

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submissions

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shall be

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deemed

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and shall

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remain the

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property of

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hackback

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media.

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None of

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the submissions

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shall be

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subject to

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any obligation

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of confidence

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on the part

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of hackback

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media,

47:03.880 --> 47:04.420
and hackback

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media shall

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not be

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liable for

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any use

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or disclosure

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of any

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submissions.

47:10.120 --> 47:10.420
Without

47:10.420 --> 47:11.260
limitation of

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the foregoing,

47:13.300 --> 47:13.740
hackback

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media shall

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exclusively own

47:15.380 --> 47:16.400
all now

47:16.400 --> 47:17.040
known or

47:17.040 --> 47:17.520
hereafter

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existing rights

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to the

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submissions of

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every kind

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and nature

47:22.940 --> 47:23.900
throughout the

47:23.900 --> 47:24.560
universe and

47:24.560 --> 47:25.000
shall be

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entitled to

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unrestricted

47:27.060 --> 47:27.840
use of the

47:27.840 --> 47:28.460
submissions for

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any purpose

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whatsoever,

47:30.480 --> 47:31.320
commercial or

47:31.320 --> 47:31.880
otherwise,

47:32.680 --> 47:33.280
without

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compensation to

47:36.160 --> 47:37.400
the provider of

47:37.400 --> 47:38.160
the submissions.

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voodoo

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hell,

47:41.140 --> 47:41.420
why don't

47:41.420 --> 47:42.300
you translate

47:42.300 --> 47:42.700
that?

47:42.860 --> 47:43.800
You can

47:43.800 --> 47:44.380
translate that

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very short

47:45.080 --> 47:45.660
and easily.

47:46.900 --> 47:47.420
Well,

47:48.380 --> 47:48.980
basically,

47:49.500 --> 47:50.240
anything that

47:50.240 --> 47:51.220
you do for

47:51.220 --> 47:51.700
this site,

47:51.960 --> 47:52.740
it belongs to

47:52.740 --> 47:53.000
them.

47:53.680 --> 47:53.980
Which,

47:54.180 --> 47:54.820
the irony to

47:54.820 --> 47:55.560
that is,

47:55.680 --> 47:56.300
the whole thing

47:56.300 --> 47:56.840
about the big

47:56.840 --> 47:57.640
hack was to

47:57.640 --> 47:58.120
prove that

47:58.120 --> 47:58.880
digital copyright

47:58.880 --> 47:59.700
didn't exist,

48:00.080 --> 48:00.780
or is not

48:00.780 --> 48:01.160
valid,

48:01.240 --> 48:01.820
I should say,

48:02.260 --> 48:03.000
but yet they

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want to copyright

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everything that

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you do.

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that's brilliant.

48:07.920 --> 48:08.500
That's just,

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that's a slap

48:09.840 --> 48:10.480
in the face.

48:11.480 --> 48:12.240
That's a slap

48:12.240 --> 48:12.720
in the face,

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right?

48:12.940 --> 48:13.220
That's what

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that is.

48:15.120 --> 48:15.520
Oh,

48:15.580 --> 48:16.060
man.

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Now,

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I know I'm

48:17.880 --> 48:18.180
going to get a

48:18.180 --> 48:18.540
lot of hate

48:18.540 --> 48:19.140
mail about this

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too,

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by the way,

48:20.480 --> 48:21.460
for airing this

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out,

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but hey,

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I'm not the

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one that got

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fished in,

48:24.440 --> 48:25.020
that's all I'm

48:25.020 --> 48:25.340
saying.

48:25.340 --> 48:27.380
Yeah,

48:27.520 --> 48:27.680
they,

48:28.120 --> 48:28.400
you know,

48:28.480 --> 48:29.200
and what is

48:29.200 --> 48:30.400
the point of

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this?

48:31.400 --> 48:31.640
A,

48:31.700 --> 48:32.340
I don't like,

48:33.360 --> 48:34.380
I'm disappointed

48:34.380 --> 48:34.840
that,

48:36.020 --> 48:36.500
like I said

48:36.500 --> 48:36.760
earlier,

48:36.860 --> 48:37.440
there is something

48:37.440 --> 48:38.000
to be gained

48:38.000 --> 48:38.560
from this,

48:38.700 --> 48:38.880
okay?

48:38.900 --> 48:39.280
Let's not

48:39.280 --> 48:40.660
completely take

48:40.660 --> 48:41.240
everything away.

48:41.520 --> 48:42.020
If someone

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goes on here

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and learns how

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to write some

48:43.820 --> 48:44.580
programs and

48:44.580 --> 48:44.960
how to,

48:45.500 --> 48:46.660
organization of

48:46.660 --> 48:47.220
putting together

48:47.220 --> 48:47.900
a plan and

48:47.900 --> 48:48.540
going through

48:48.540 --> 48:49.000
and,

48:49.400 --> 48:49.660
you know,

48:49.720 --> 48:50.500
working together,

48:50.740 --> 48:51.320
and there's a

48:51.320 --> 48:51.720
lot of stuff

48:51.720 --> 48:52.240
that could be

48:52.240 --> 48:52.900
taken out of

48:52.900 --> 48:53.180
this,

48:53.920 --> 48:54.360
but,

48:54.360 --> 48:57.080
all of that

48:57.080 --> 48:58.700
work towards

48:58.700 --> 48:59.160
a fictional

48:59.160 --> 49:00.780
goal seems

49:00.780 --> 49:01.540
a little wasteful

49:01.540 --> 49:01.860
to me.

49:02.560 --> 49:03.040
There are so

49:03.040 --> 49:03.560
many other

49:03.560 --> 49:04.140
things that

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your time

49:04.880 --> 49:05.160
could have

49:05.160 --> 49:05.700
been spent

49:05.700 --> 49:07.700
on that

49:07.700 --> 49:08.320
were real.

49:09.920 --> 49:10.200
Yeah,

49:10.660 --> 49:11.340
lots and

49:11.340 --> 49:11.760
lots and

49:11.760 --> 49:12.180
lots of

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time that

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could have

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been spent

49:13.760 --> 49:14.460
on real

49:14.460 --> 49:16.260
things and

49:16.260 --> 49:16.940
not fictional

49:16.940 --> 49:17.660
things.

49:18.240 --> 49:18.700
There's nothing

49:18.700 --> 49:19.160
wrong with

49:19.160 --> 49:19.640
fiction and

49:19.640 --> 49:20.000
if they're

49:20.000 --> 49:20.740
enjoying it,

49:21.340 --> 49:21.960
I'm not

49:21.960 --> 49:22.380
putting them

49:22.380 --> 49:23.240
down whatsoever,

49:23.240 --> 49:24.560
but my

49:24.560 --> 49:26.600
gut tells

49:26.600 --> 49:27.140
me that

49:27.140 --> 49:29.140
almost everyone

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except maybe

49:29.820 --> 49:30.460
the creator

49:30.460 --> 49:31.000
and one or

49:31.000 --> 49:31.580
two people,

49:31.800 --> 49:32.180
they come

49:32.180 --> 49:32.560
right out and

49:32.560 --> 49:32.980
claim that

49:32.980 --> 49:33.920
they have

49:33.920 --> 49:34.460
actors.

49:35.240 --> 49:36.060
They have

49:36.060 --> 49:37.140
plants in

49:37.140 --> 49:37.780
this game

49:37.780 --> 49:38.840
whose job

49:38.840 --> 49:39.540
it is to

49:39.540 --> 49:40.240
push the

49:40.240 --> 49:40.780
plot and

49:40.780 --> 49:41.740
story along.

49:42.520 --> 49:43.260
They have

49:43.260 --> 49:43.980
actors in

49:43.980 --> 49:44.220
this.

49:45.140 --> 49:45.620
Ironically,

49:45.760 --> 49:46.480
the actors

49:46.480 --> 49:46.980
aren't allowed

49:46.980 --> 49:47.400
to tell

49:47.400 --> 49:47.940
anything or

49:47.940 --> 49:48.380
say that

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it's fake,

49:50.120 --> 49:50.600
which to

49:50.600 --> 49:51.160
me seems

49:51.160 --> 49:51.440
like,

49:51.580 --> 49:51.820
I don't

49:51.820 --> 49:52.020
know if

49:52.020 --> 49:52.560
entrapment

49:52.560 --> 49:52.860
is the

49:52.860 --> 49:53.200
word,

49:54.060 --> 49:54.420
but how

49:54.420 --> 49:54.720
can you

49:54.720 --> 49:55.220
not tell

49:55.220 --> 49:55.720
somebody,

49:55.760 --> 49:56.040
you're not

49:56.040 --> 49:56.360
allowed to

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tell them

49:56.640 --> 49:56.920
that they're

49:56.920 --> 49:57.240
part of

49:57.240 --> 49:57.720
a game,

49:58.060 --> 49:58.320
are you

49:58.320 --> 49:58.960
also not

49:58.960 --> 49:59.500
telling them

49:59.500 --> 50:00.240
that they've

50:00.240 --> 50:01.040
waived all

50:01.040 --> 50:01.320
of their

50:01.320 --> 50:02.100
copyrights for

50:02.100 --> 50:02.440
the work

50:02.440 --> 50:02.900
that they put

50:02.900 --> 50:03.300
into this

50:03.300 --> 50:03.800
project and

50:03.800 --> 50:04.140
that you can

50:04.140 --> 50:04.620
take it

50:04.620 --> 50:05.380
right out

50:05.380 --> 50:05.760
from under

50:05.760 --> 50:07.000
them without

50:07.000 --> 50:07.660
even telling

50:07.660 --> 50:08.200
them that it

50:08.200 --> 50:08.760
was coming in

50:08.760 --> 50:09.080
the first

50:09.080 --> 50:09.520
place?

50:10.860 --> 50:11.180
I mean,

50:11.260 --> 50:11.820
isn't that

50:11.820 --> 50:11.980
crum?

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that they

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added that

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terms and

50:13.340 --> 50:13.700
conditions

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thing down

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at the

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bottom,

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but that's

50:15.400 --> 50:15.920
about it.

50:16.540 --> 50:16.760
It's the

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only forewarning.

50:18.320 --> 50:18.620
Yeah,

50:18.720 --> 50:18.960
I mean,

50:19.020 --> 50:19.920
it's very

50:19.920 --> 50:22.760
misleading to

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say the

50:23.180 --> 50:23.540
least.

50:23.960 --> 50:24.800
To say the

50:24.800 --> 50:25.380
least,

50:26.140 --> 50:26.680
it's very

50:26.680 --> 50:27.160
misleading.

50:28.320 --> 50:28.620
So,

50:29.060 --> 50:30.520
you know,

50:30.580 --> 50:31.060
I'm not

50:31.060 --> 50:31.220
sure,

50:31.300 --> 50:31.520
I mean,

50:31.560 --> 50:31.880
they are

50:31.880 --> 50:32.360
admitting that

50:32.360 --> 50:32.800
it's fiction.

50:33.540 --> 50:34.000
You just

50:34.000 --> 50:34.540
have to look

50:34.540 --> 50:35.380
real hard to

50:35.380 --> 50:35.940
find that.

50:36.820 --> 50:37.260
And even

50:37.260 --> 50:37.660
that,

50:37.780 --> 50:38.240
they make it

50:38.240 --> 50:38.720
sound so

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cryptic,

50:39.260 --> 50:39.960
and the

50:39.960 --> 50:40.300
way they

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word it

50:40.760 --> 50:41.620
carefully to

50:41.620 --> 50:42.020
say,

50:43.300 --> 50:43.740
you know,

50:43.860 --> 50:44.360
that it's,

50:45.400 --> 50:46.040
they try to

50:46.040 --> 50:46.440
still,

50:46.580 --> 50:47.160
even with the

50:47.160 --> 50:47.860
choice of

50:47.860 --> 50:48.320
words,

50:48.640 --> 50:49.200
make it look

50:49.200 --> 50:49.680
like it's

50:49.680 --> 50:50.360
still towards

50:50.360 --> 50:50.800
a worthwhile

50:50.800 --> 50:51.400
or towards

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a legitimate

50:52.080 --> 50:52.540
goal.

50:53.460 --> 50:54.260
That goal,

50:54.400 --> 50:54.660
however,

50:55.080 --> 50:55.780
they own

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100%.

50:56.860 --> 50:57.780
So,

50:58.000 --> 50:58.320
let's say,

50:58.540 --> 50:59.520
let's take

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this on,

51:00.040 --> 51:00.880
let's see how

51:00.880 --> 51:01.220
this could

51:01.220 --> 51:02.020
possibly play

51:02.020 --> 51:02.280
out.

51:03.180 --> 51:03.600
A,

51:03.860 --> 51:04.700
the game

51:04.700 --> 51:05.300
plays out to

51:05.300 --> 51:05.620
the very

51:05.620 --> 51:06.300
end and

51:06.300 --> 51:08.080
they archive

51:08.080 --> 51:08.500
the whole

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thing.

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And or

51:11.840 --> 51:12.700
publish it

51:12.700 --> 51:13.760
somehow and

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get paid and

51:14.460 --> 51:15.200
sell advertising

51:15.200 --> 51:15.600
on it.

51:15.860 --> 51:16.400
Even put it

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into a book

51:16.960 --> 51:17.580
form or

51:17.580 --> 51:18.000
something or

51:18.000 --> 51:18.840
use names and

51:18.840 --> 51:19.460
likenesses or

51:19.460 --> 51:19.980
something like

51:19.980 --> 51:21.940
that and

51:21.940 --> 51:22.440
make money

51:22.440 --> 51:23.080
off of it.

51:23.860 --> 51:24.140
B,

51:24.300 --> 51:25.200
let's say

51:25.200 --> 51:27.780
for some,

51:27.880 --> 51:28.320
let's say

51:28.320 --> 51:29.160
somehow,

51:29.620 --> 51:30.200
which is,

51:30.320 --> 51:30.480
again,

51:30.540 --> 51:31.020
this is highly

51:31.020 --> 51:31.700
unlikely why

51:31.700 --> 51:32.000
I've had

51:32.000 --> 51:32.400
problems

51:32.400 --> 51:32.900
fundamentally

51:32.900 --> 51:33.360
with it,

51:33.600 --> 51:34.080
but let's

51:34.080 --> 51:34.480
say for

51:34.480 --> 51:34.880
sake of

51:34.880 --> 51:35.440
argument that

51:35.440 --> 51:36.080
the whole

51:36.080 --> 51:37.200
system,

51:37.340 --> 51:37.700
whatever they

51:37.700 --> 51:38.140
called it,

51:38.180 --> 51:38.820
off or

51:38.820 --> 51:39.940
whatever that

51:39.940 --> 51:40.400
system is

51:40.400 --> 51:40.740
called,

51:41.440 --> 51:42.260
of breaking

51:42.260 --> 51:43.320
down copyright

51:43.320 --> 51:43.860
law and

51:43.860 --> 51:45.540
their ways

51:45.540 --> 51:46.320
around copyright

51:46.320 --> 51:46.560
law,

51:46.620 --> 51:47.080
their theory,

51:47.300 --> 51:47.820
it's a good

51:47.820 --> 51:48.340
sit around

51:48.340 --> 51:48.760
drink and

51:48.760 --> 51:49.400
beer idea.

51:49.480 --> 51:49.620
Hey,

51:49.680 --> 51:49.900
wouldn't it

51:49.900 --> 51:50.400
be cool if

51:50.400 --> 51:50.960
we separated

51:50.960 --> 51:51.640
files using

51:51.640 --> 51:52.100
a one-time

51:52.100 --> 51:52.540
pad to

51:52.540 --> 51:52.880
recreate?

51:53.220 --> 51:53.400
You know,

51:53.460 --> 51:53.620
hey,

51:53.700 --> 51:53.840
yeah,

51:53.880 --> 51:54.140
that does

51:54.140 --> 51:54.580
sound fun.

51:54.760 --> 51:54.900
Well,

51:54.940 --> 51:55.220
then you're

51:55.220 --> 51:55.560
supposed to

51:55.560 --> 51:56.020
drop it.

51:56.400 --> 51:56.680
But to

51:56.680 --> 51:57.340
take it this

51:57.340 --> 51:57.760
far to

51:57.760 --> 51:58.200
actually go

51:58.200 --> 51:58.580
towards this

51:58.580 --> 51:59.060
project,

51:59.760 --> 52:00.260
seems to

52:00.260 --> 52:01.020
me like it's

52:01.020 --> 52:02.560
doomed from

52:02.560 --> 52:03.440
the get-go.

52:03.440 --> 52:04.160
But anyway,

52:04.760 --> 52:05.300
let's say

52:05.300 --> 52:05.600
that it

52:05.600 --> 52:06.140
did work,

52:06.400 --> 52:06.740
and let's

52:06.740 --> 52:07.080
say that

52:07.080 --> 52:07.560
this whole

52:07.560 --> 52:07.940
thing was

52:07.940 --> 52:08.620
developed by

52:08.620 --> 52:09.120
all these

52:09.120 --> 52:09.740
quote,

52:09.900 --> 52:10.700
players in

52:10.700 --> 52:11.660
this game,

52:11.780 --> 52:12.340
this interactive

52:12.340 --> 52:12.840
fiction.

52:14.060 --> 52:14.840
They have

52:14.840 --> 52:15.260
the rights

52:15.260 --> 52:15.560
to it.

52:15.620 --> 52:16.120
The owners

52:16.120 --> 52:17.060
of Hackback

52:17.060 --> 52:17.540
have the

52:17.540 --> 52:17.860
right to

52:17.860 --> 52:18.080
that.

52:18.500 --> 52:18.880
So all

52:18.880 --> 52:19.280
that time

52:19.280 --> 52:19.520
and work

52:19.520 --> 52:19.740
that you

52:19.740 --> 52:20.180
put into

52:20.180 --> 52:20.400
it,

52:20.520 --> 52:20.880
and they

52:20.880 --> 52:21.260
turn around

52:21.260 --> 52:21.600
and turn

52:21.600 --> 52:21.920
it into

52:21.920 --> 52:22.360
the next

52:22.360 --> 52:23.200
Napster,

52:23.600 --> 52:24.120
Kazaa,

52:24.700 --> 52:25.740
multi-million

52:25.740 --> 52:26.380
dollar file

52:26.380 --> 52:26.720
sharing

52:26.720 --> 52:27.400
application,

52:27.400 --> 52:28.540
and they

52:28.540 --> 52:29.540
got all

52:29.540 --> 52:29.780
of the

52:29.780 --> 52:30.280
hackers of

52:30.280 --> 52:30.760
the world

52:30.760 --> 52:32.620
to do

52:32.620 --> 52:33.000
it for

52:33.000 --> 52:33.260
them.

52:34.320 --> 52:35.220
My God,

52:35.300 --> 52:35.660
does the

52:35.660 --> 52:36.000
name

52:36.000 --> 52:37.040
Hackback

52:37.040 --> 52:38.680
fit ever

52:38.680 --> 52:39.800
so appropriately

52:39.800 --> 52:41.940
because they

52:41.940 --> 52:42.360
will have

52:42.360 --> 52:43.000
hacked the

52:43.000 --> 52:43.400
hackers,

52:43.920 --> 52:44.920
and that

52:44.920 --> 52:46.500
is elite.

52:49.340 --> 52:50.020
It's

52:50.020 --> 52:50.440
shameful.

52:51.900 --> 52:52.580
It's

52:52.580 --> 52:53.220
shameful for

52:53.220 --> 52:53.800
some people,

52:54.000 --> 52:56.040
but this

52:56.040 --> 52:56.440
was the

52:56.440 --> 52:57.140
ultimate feat

52:57.140 --> 52:57.700
of social

52:57.700 --> 52:58.240
engineering,

52:58.420 --> 52:58.760
and still

52:58.760 --> 52:59.140
is,

52:59.600 --> 53:01.200
because the

53:01.200 --> 53:01.620
people who

53:01.620 --> 53:02.180
don't listen

53:02.180 --> 53:02.520
to this

53:02.520 --> 53:03.260
radio show

53:03.260 --> 53:04.100
are going

53:04.100 --> 53:04.580
to continue

53:04.580 --> 53:04.940
to be

53:04.940 --> 53:05.500
fished into

53:05.500 --> 53:05.860
this and

53:05.860 --> 53:06.240
not know

53:06.240 --> 53:06.680
any better.

53:07.620 --> 53:08.200
And anybody

53:08.200 --> 53:08.740
who actually

53:08.740 --> 53:09.300
goes over

53:09.300 --> 53:09.660
there and

53:09.660 --> 53:10.040
tries to

53:10.040 --> 53:10.400
open their

53:10.400 --> 53:10.760
eyes and

53:10.760 --> 53:11.720
post maybe

53:11.720 --> 53:12.160
a link to

53:12.160 --> 53:12.580
the radio

53:12.580 --> 53:13.440
show or

53:13.440 --> 53:14.400
post in

53:14.400 --> 53:14.820
the forums

53:14.820 --> 53:15.180
that it's

53:15.180 --> 53:15.660
fake or

53:15.660 --> 53:15.900
whatever

53:15.900 --> 53:16.360
information

53:16.360 --> 53:16.760
they got,

53:17.960 --> 53:18.420
they're not

53:18.420 --> 53:19.040
allowed to,

53:19.160 --> 53:19.400
and they

53:19.400 --> 53:19.660
will be

53:19.660 --> 53:20.300
banned for

53:20.300 --> 53:20.440
it.

53:21.260 --> 53:21.820
So how

53:21.820 --> 53:22.140
do you get

53:22.140 --> 53:22.400
to the

53:22.400 --> 53:22.780
truth of

53:22.780 --> 53:23.160
these people?

53:23.220 --> 53:23.540
It's almost

53:23.540 --> 53:23.840
like a

53:23.840 --> 53:24.420
brainwashing,

53:24.520 --> 53:24.800
like a

53:24.800 --> 53:25.200
cult or

53:25.200 --> 53:25.740
some weird,

53:26.320 --> 53:27.120
I hate to

53:27.140 --> 53:28.060
use that

53:28.060 --> 53:28.700
word like

53:28.700 --> 53:28.960
that,

53:29.040 --> 53:29.840
but I

53:29.840 --> 53:30.060
don't know

53:30.060 --> 53:31.040
how else

53:31.040 --> 53:31.600
to describe

53:31.600 --> 53:31.860
it or

53:31.860 --> 53:32.240
to use

53:32.240 --> 53:32.400
it.

53:33.100 --> 53:33.480
It's like,

53:33.600 --> 53:33.760
hey,

53:33.960 --> 53:34.380
all the

53:34.380 --> 53:34.740
people on

53:34.740 --> 53:35.120
this site,

53:35.340 --> 53:35.860
you can't

53:35.860 --> 53:36.180
tell them

53:36.180 --> 53:36.540
that we're

53:36.540 --> 53:37.720
screwing

53:37.720 --> 53:37.880
them.

53:38.300 --> 53:38.840
You can't

53:38.840 --> 53:39.140
come in

53:39.140 --> 53:39.400
and tell

53:39.400 --> 53:39.620
them you're

53:39.620 --> 53:40.100
not allowed.

53:41.200 --> 53:41.540
You have

53:41.540 --> 53:41.940
to leave

53:41.940 --> 53:43.000
them to

53:43.000 --> 53:43.160
their

53:43.160 --> 53:43.680
delusions.

53:45.580 --> 53:46.320
So I

53:46.320 --> 53:46.560
don't know

53:46.560 --> 53:47.300
what to do

53:47.300 --> 53:47.800
about this.

53:48.320 --> 53:48.900
I can bring

53:48.900 --> 53:49.260
it out on

53:49.260 --> 53:49.600
the show

53:49.600 --> 53:49.980
and I can

53:49.980 --> 53:50.480
air it out

53:50.480 --> 53:50.900
and I can

53:50.900 --> 53:51.600
tell everybody

53:51.600 --> 53:52.460
it's a

53:52.460 --> 53:53.140
big con.

53:54.420 --> 53:54.880
It's a

53:54.880 --> 53:55.420
big con.

53:55.520 --> 53:55.780
It's a

53:55.780 --> 53:56.260
big hack.

53:56.360 --> 53:56.760
There's no

53:56.760 --> 53:57.120
doubt it

53:57.120 --> 53:57.640
is the

53:57.640 --> 53:58.240
big hack.

53:58.320 --> 53:58.680
It lives

53:58.680 --> 53:58.960
up to

53:58.960 --> 53:59.120
its

53:59.120 --> 53:59.640
namesake.

54:00.360 --> 54:00.960
But people

54:00.960 --> 54:03.060
know what

54:03.060 --> 54:03.440
you're in

54:03.440 --> 54:03.660
for.

54:03.980 --> 54:04.360
If you

54:04.360 --> 54:05.580
know and

54:05.580 --> 54:06.240
understand that

54:06.240 --> 54:06.480
you are

54:06.480 --> 54:07.360
participating in

54:07.360 --> 54:07.980
a game,

54:08.480 --> 54:09.020
a piece of

54:09.020 --> 54:09.400
interactive

54:09.400 --> 54:09.880
fiction,

54:10.040 --> 54:10.320
immersive

54:10.320 --> 54:10.820
fiction,

54:11.120 --> 54:12.360
and you

54:12.360 --> 54:13.040
accept that

54:13.040 --> 54:13.420
and you're

54:13.420 --> 54:13.920
okay with

54:13.920 --> 54:14.280
it and you

54:14.280 --> 54:14.680
know that

54:14.680 --> 54:14.980
they have

54:14.980 --> 54:15.400
full rights

54:15.400 --> 54:15.780
to everything

54:15.780 --> 54:16.140
and you're

54:16.140 --> 54:16.520
just doing

54:16.520 --> 54:16.800
it because

54:16.800 --> 54:17.220
you enjoy

54:17.220 --> 54:17.440
it,

54:18.220 --> 54:18.440
hey,

54:18.600 --> 54:18.980
we have

54:18.980 --> 54:19.620
no problems.

54:19.720 --> 54:20.380
Have fun.

54:20.720 --> 54:21.160
I back

54:21.160 --> 54:22.080
you 100%,

54:22.080 --> 54:23.060
but I don't

54:23.060 --> 54:23.580
think everybody

54:23.580 --> 54:24.020
knows.

54:24.020 --> 54:27.120
Am I way

54:27.120 --> 54:27.500
off here?

54:27.560 --> 54:27.740
Do you

54:27.740 --> 54:28.060
think?

54:30.300 --> 54:32.280
I'm sure

54:32.280 --> 54:33.080
that there

54:33.080 --> 54:34.940
are very few

54:34.940 --> 54:35.400
people that

54:35.400 --> 54:35.780
have any

54:35.780 --> 54:36.440
clue as to

54:36.440 --> 54:36.920
what's going

54:36.920 --> 54:37.280
on.

54:37.660 --> 54:38.000
The really

54:38.000 --> 54:38.600
funny part is

54:38.600 --> 54:38.900
trying to

54:38.900 --> 54:39.480
figure out who

54:39.480 --> 54:40.080
the hell does

54:40.080 --> 54:40.540
know what's

54:40.540 --> 54:40.960
really going

54:40.960 --> 54:41.260
on.

54:41.260 --> 54:42.640
The other

54:42.640 --> 54:43.760
great thing

54:43.760 --> 54:44.260
from this,

54:44.680 --> 54:45.420
the funniest

54:45.420 --> 54:45.880
part that

54:45.880 --> 54:46.080
we're going

54:46.080 --> 54:46.640
to have is

54:46.640 --> 54:47.480
the fallout.

54:48.240 --> 54:49.340
The fallout

54:49.340 --> 54:50.100
from this is

54:50.100 --> 54:50.460
going to be

54:50.460 --> 54:50.960
people going,

54:51.080 --> 54:51.900
oh, oh, no,

54:52.060 --> 54:52.900
I knew all

54:52.900 --> 54:53.580
along.

54:53.940 --> 54:54.760
I knew it

54:54.760 --> 54:55.600
wasn't real.

54:55.740 --> 54:56.540
Come on.

54:56.620 --> 54:57.260
I knew the

54:57.260 --> 54:58.080
whole time.

54:58.200 --> 54:58.680
Yeah, I was

54:58.680 --> 54:59.680
just acting.

55:00.360 --> 55:00.900
I was just

55:00.900 --> 55:01.720
playing along

55:01.720 --> 55:02.260
with the whole

55:02.260 --> 55:02.680
thing.

55:03.720 --> 55:04.560
Yeah, that's

55:04.560 --> 55:05.800
going to be

55:05.800 --> 55:06.100
fun.

55:06.180 --> 55:06.640
The spin

55:06.640 --> 55:07.220
control is

55:07.220 --> 55:07.520
going to be

55:07.520 --> 55:07.880
great.

55:09.920 --> 55:10.400
Man.

55:11.260 --> 55:12.140
Dude, I

55:12.140 --> 55:12.540
can't believe

55:12.540 --> 55:12.860
we just

55:12.860 --> 55:13.520
outed this.

55:13.880 --> 55:14.540
See, I

55:14.540 --> 55:15.080
mean, did

55:15.080 --> 55:15.540
you feel the

55:15.540 --> 55:16.000
same way I

55:16.000 --> 55:16.100
do?

55:16.200 --> 55:17.360
I instant

55:17.360 --> 55:17.980
messaged this

55:17.980 --> 55:18.280
to you,

55:18.340 --> 55:18.640
remember?

55:19.220 --> 55:19.440
Yeah.

55:19.540 --> 55:21.000
And when I

55:21.000 --> 55:21.740
first saw it,

55:21.880 --> 55:23.880
I was so

55:23.880 --> 55:25.300
shocked, frankly,

55:25.880 --> 55:26.200
and so

55:26.200 --> 55:26.420
amazed.

55:26.460 --> 55:26.840
I'm like,

55:27.640 --> 55:28.020
could I

55:28.020 --> 55:28.800
possibly be

55:28.800 --> 55:29.440
reading what

55:29.440 --> 55:30.240
I just, am

55:30.240 --> 55:30.860
I understanding

55:30.860 --> 55:31.480
this correctly?

55:32.140 --> 55:32.620
And I sent

55:32.620 --> 55:33.000
it to you,

55:33.060 --> 55:33.380
and I'm like,

55:33.440 --> 55:33.820
does this

55:33.820 --> 55:34.800
sound to you

55:34.800 --> 55:35.560
the same way

55:35.560 --> 55:36.160
it sounds to

55:36.160 --> 55:36.720
me, or is

55:36.720 --> 55:37.160
this really

55:37.160 --> 55:37.740
what I think

55:37.740 --> 55:38.120
it is?

55:39.140 --> 55:39.660
I mean, that

55:39.660 --> 55:40.520
feeling, remember

55:40.520 --> 55:41.060
that feeling,

55:41.060 --> 55:41.660
as we both

55:41.660 --> 55:42.200
read that?

55:43.300 --> 55:44.260
Yeah, I

55:44.260 --> 55:45.300
had to read

55:45.300 --> 55:46.280
it quite a

55:46.280 --> 55:46.880
few times.

55:46.980 --> 55:47.460
Yeah, I

55:47.460 --> 55:47.920
could, because

55:47.920 --> 55:49.360
out of disbelief

55:49.360 --> 55:50.240
is why, out

55:50.240 --> 55:50.640
of pure, I'm

55:50.640 --> 55:52.020
like, no,

55:52.300 --> 55:52.900
they didn't.

55:53.860 --> 55:54.780
No, he

55:54.780 --> 55:55.080
couldn't

55:55.080 --> 55:55.740
possibly have,

55:55.940 --> 55:57.300
I think he

55:57.300 --> 55:57.620
did.

55:58.160 --> 55:59.620
No, no, he

55:59.620 --> 56:00.400
couldn't possibly

56:00.400 --> 56:00.800
have just

56:00.800 --> 56:02.740
snowed, but

56:02.740 --> 56:03.260
yeah, he

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did, it's

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completely,

56:05.720 --> 56:06.140
oh.

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Exactly.

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You know

56:07.900 --> 56:08.860
what, I'm

56:08.860 --> 56:09.700
going to send

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a thank

56:10.120 --> 56:10.680
you, I'm

56:10.680 --> 56:10.940
going to send

56:10.940 --> 56:11.220
a thank

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you to

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Hackback,

56:11.740 --> 56:12.540
because that

56:12.540 --> 56:13.060
made my

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week, that

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made my

56:13.920 --> 56:14.660
month, that

56:14.660 --> 56:15.060
made my

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year.

56:15.960 --> 56:16.480
That was

56:16.480 --> 56:16.860
the most

56:16.860 --> 56:17.560
elite hack

56:17.560 --> 56:18.820
that I've

56:18.820 --> 56:19.340
seen in a

56:19.340 --> 56:20.780
long time.

56:20.920 --> 56:21.280
I'm giving

56:21.280 --> 56:22.040
credit for that.

56:22.300 --> 56:22.860
I don't like

56:22.860 --> 56:23.840
it, I think

56:23.840 --> 56:24.380
some people are

56:24.380 --> 56:24.720
going to get

56:24.720 --> 56:25.320
screwed and

56:25.320 --> 56:25.900
made to look

56:25.900 --> 56:26.440
like idiots

56:26.440 --> 56:26.940
and look like

56:26.940 --> 56:27.480
fools because

56:27.480 --> 56:28.060
they got caught

56:28.060 --> 56:28.560
up in it,

56:29.020 --> 56:30.460
but damn, that

56:30.460 --> 56:30.840
was cool.

56:31.680 --> 56:32.420
Hell yeah.

56:32.420 --> 56:33.660
That was

56:33.660 --> 56:34.940
elite.

56:36.940 --> 56:37.940
And that's

56:37.940 --> 56:38.560
what you get

56:38.560 --> 56:39.820
for blindly

56:39.820 --> 56:41.180
following anything

56:41.180 --> 56:42.020
in life.

56:42.160 --> 56:42.460
I'm going to

56:42.460 --> 56:43.060
turn this into

56:43.060 --> 56:43.740
a moral, this

56:43.740 --> 56:44.180
is like a

56:44.180 --> 56:45.240
Aesop's fable.

56:45.840 --> 56:46.820
Don't just

56:46.820 --> 56:47.880
follow people.

56:48.600 --> 56:49.700
Read, research,

56:49.880 --> 56:50.580
understand what

56:50.580 --> 56:51.040
you're in.

56:51.240 --> 56:51.920
The information

56:51.920 --> 56:52.560
was there.

56:53.500 --> 56:54.280
I found it.

56:55.200 --> 56:55.780
Do a little

56:55.780 --> 56:56.420
bit of research

56:56.420 --> 56:56.960
and you could

56:56.960 --> 56:57.600
have seen that

56:57.600 --> 56:58.140
this was all

56:58.140 --> 56:58.480
fake.

56:59.220 --> 56:59.620
Could have

56:59.620 --> 57:00.640
known that it

57:00.640 --> 57:01.280
was all fake.

57:02.420 --> 57:03.340
And, no,

57:03.440 --> 57:03.820
people just

57:03.820 --> 57:04.440
sign up, create

57:04.440 --> 57:05.200
an account, start

57:05.200 --> 57:06.060
playing along, start

57:06.060 --> 57:07.100
writing code, start

57:07.100 --> 57:07.760
buying into the

57:07.760 --> 57:09.480
whole thing, going

57:09.480 --> 57:10.020
out to other

57:10.020 --> 57:10.800
message boards,

57:10.940 --> 57:11.800
posting, hey, you

57:11.800 --> 57:12.460
guys, come check

57:12.460 --> 57:13.660
this out, linking

57:13.660 --> 57:14.580
directly to the

57:14.580 --> 57:15.360
site, which they

57:15.360 --> 57:16.800
say is a violation

57:16.800 --> 57:17.560
of their rules.

57:17.660 --> 57:18.460
They do not want

57:18.460 --> 57:19.800
you linking directly

57:19.800 --> 57:20.800
to the big hack.

57:21.360 --> 57:22.060
They want you to

57:22.060 --> 57:22.920
link to

57:22.920 --> 57:23.860
hackback.org.

57:23.960 --> 57:24.460
Legally, that

57:24.460 --> 57:24.960
covers them.

57:25.020 --> 57:25.920
They can say, hey,

57:26.420 --> 57:27.360
we told people not

57:27.360 --> 57:27.840
to do it.

57:28.880 --> 57:29.740
And they can't

57:29.740 --> 57:30.380
police the whole

57:30.380 --> 57:30.680
thing.

57:31.200 --> 57:31.840
You can't know

57:31.840 --> 57:32.300
what search

57:32.300 --> 57:32.780
engines have

57:32.780 --> 57:33.180
found your

57:33.180 --> 57:33.620
page and

57:33.620 --> 57:34.080
marked it.

57:34.920 --> 57:35.720
I didn't check

57:35.720 --> 57:36.720
the robots.txt file

57:36.720 --> 57:37.920
to see if they're

57:37.920 --> 57:38.660
excluding or what

57:38.660 --> 57:39.200
they're excluding.

57:39.960 --> 57:40.800
But it could be on

57:40.800 --> 57:41.480
any search engine

57:41.480 --> 57:42.040
you do not know.

57:42.480 --> 57:42.960
And all the

57:42.960 --> 57:43.600
users that you

57:43.600 --> 57:44.420
got, you don't

57:44.420 --> 57:45.060
know where they've

57:45.060 --> 57:45.580
posted it.

57:46.100 --> 57:46.560
You don't know

57:46.560 --> 57:47.020
where they've

57:47.020 --> 57:47.620
spread the word

57:47.620 --> 57:47.900
to.

57:48.080 --> 57:48.540
And if those

57:48.540 --> 57:49.180
sites don't get

57:49.180 --> 57:49.960
search engines,

57:50.020 --> 57:50.520
you're never going

57:50.520 --> 57:51.120
to find them.

57:51.820 --> 57:52.340
Unless you want to

57:52.340 --> 57:52.780
look through your

57:52.780 --> 57:53.640
logs and follow

57:53.640 --> 57:54.480
back every link.

57:54.820 --> 57:55.320
And then you're

57:55.320 --> 57:55.720
going to take it

57:55.720 --> 57:56.740
upon yourself of all

57:56.740 --> 57:57.440
the maintenance of

57:57.440 --> 57:58.100
going to every

57:58.100 --> 57:59.400
forum and going,

57:59.500 --> 57:59.880
no, no, no,

57:59.940 --> 58:00.760
don't link to that

58:00.760 --> 58:01.040
site.

58:01.260 --> 58:01.760
Link to this

58:01.760 --> 58:02.320
site, please.

58:02.860 --> 58:03.380
There's a simple

58:03.380 --> 58:04.080
solution that's

58:04.080 --> 58:04.700
just to, um,

58:05.420 --> 58:06.560
if you, because

58:06.560 --> 58:06.980
most of their

58:06.980 --> 58:08.000
sites, PHP boards

58:08.000 --> 58:08.560
and things like

58:08.560 --> 58:09.300
that, it's just

58:09.300 --> 58:10.280
searching for the

58:10.280 --> 58:11.540
referrer when

58:11.540 --> 58:12.380
somebody accesses

58:12.380 --> 58:12.580
it.

58:12.700 --> 58:13.020
Right.

58:13.260 --> 58:14.280
Not just saying,

58:14.580 --> 58:15.220
yeah, fuck you,

58:15.360 --> 58:15.840
you didn't come

58:15.840 --> 58:16.240
from the right

58:16.240 --> 58:16.540
place.

58:16.940 --> 58:17.420
Oh, wait, I

58:17.420 --> 58:17.980
just cussed.

58:18.640 --> 58:19.040
Uh-oh.

58:19.300 --> 58:19.800
Uh-oh.

58:20.660 --> 58:21.440
Oh, damn.

58:21.640 --> 58:22.100
Oh, no.

58:22.240 --> 58:22.820
Oh, darn.

58:22.920 --> 58:23.080
Shit.

58:23.200 --> 58:23.540
Oh, no.

58:25.760 --> 58:26.540
Oh, man.

58:26.700 --> 58:28.400
Anyway, I guess

58:28.400 --> 58:29.220
we're done with

58:29.220 --> 58:29.440
that.

58:29.440 --> 58:31.440
I still think

58:31.440 --> 58:31.980
that's hilarious

58:31.980 --> 58:32.520
and that's going

58:32.520 --> 58:33.020
to sit with me

58:33.020 --> 58:34.060
for a long time.

58:34.880 --> 58:35.660
That's funny.

58:36.060 --> 58:36.580
Should we give

58:36.580 --> 58:37.900
them the contact

58:37.900 --> 58:39.220
information to send

58:39.220 --> 58:39.800
them thank you

58:39.800 --> 58:40.080
letters?

58:41.040 --> 58:42.480
Um, you know, I

58:42.480 --> 58:43.220
have it here in the

58:43.220 --> 58:44.140
notes and I'm not

58:44.140 --> 58:44.980
sure if that would

58:44.980 --> 58:48.220
be, no, I'm not,

58:48.300 --> 58:48.980
no, I don't think

58:48.980 --> 58:49.340
we should.

58:51.280 --> 58:53.000
Hackback.org, if

58:53.000 --> 58:53.980
they want it, they

58:53.980 --> 58:55.120
can go and read.

58:55.200 --> 58:55.880
Let's make them,

58:55.940 --> 58:56.400
now that their

58:56.400 --> 58:56.880
eyes have been

58:56.880 --> 58:58.280
open, go read and

58:58.280 --> 58:58.900
go find out.

58:58.960 --> 58:59.400
And if you want

58:59.400 --> 59:00.020
to send them a

59:00.020 --> 59:00.740
thank you or a

59:00.740 --> 59:02.660
fuck you, find the

59:02.660 --> 59:03.420
information there.

59:03.500 --> 59:04.320
He's got contact

59:04.320 --> 59:04.840
information.

59:05.200 --> 59:05.840
He's actually a

59:05.840 --> 59:06.440
pretty nice guy.

59:06.540 --> 59:07.320
I contacted him

59:07.320 --> 59:08.700
on something, took

59:08.700 --> 59:09.300
care of it, no

59:09.300 --> 59:09.720
problem.

59:09.840 --> 59:10.380
When I say he

59:10.380 --> 59:11.000
being a nice guy,

59:11.060 --> 59:11.540
I'm saying the

59:11.540 --> 59:12.140
person who's

59:12.140 --> 59:13.400
running Hackback.org.

59:14.160 --> 59:15.900
And again, you can

59:15.900 --> 59:16.500
find out who that

59:16.500 --> 59:17.120
is by going to

59:17.120 --> 59:17.580
their site.

59:18.580 --> 59:19.480
And, um, he's

59:19.480 --> 59:19.940
actually a pretty

59:19.940 --> 59:20.620
nice guy, or at

59:20.620 --> 59:21.180
least he was to

59:21.180 --> 59:21.440
me.

59:22.280 --> 59:23.080
I just don't

59:23.080 --> 59:23.540
like the idea

59:23.540 --> 59:24.420
that these people

59:24.420 --> 59:25.240
are being misled.

59:26.220 --> 59:27.940
And I guess that's

59:27.940 --> 59:28.520
all I have to say

59:28.520 --> 59:28.980
about that.

59:29.900 --> 59:30.720
So, why don't we

59:30.720 --> 59:31.220
move on to a

59:31.220 --> 59:31.760
couple quick,

59:31.960 --> 59:33.180
smaller topics

59:33.180 --> 59:33.440
here.

59:33.500 --> 59:33.920
We've got a

59:33.920 --> 59:34.440
little bit of,

59:34.600 --> 59:35.120
actually we're

59:35.120 --> 59:35.880
right about time,

59:35.920 --> 59:36.320
but let's hit a

59:36.320 --> 59:37.380
couple quick topics.

59:38.320 --> 59:42.320
Um, one is, um,

59:42.520 --> 59:43.500
back, here we go

59:43.500 --> 59:44.120
back to Bluetooth

59:44.120 --> 59:44.520
again.

59:44.600 --> 59:45.020
I thought we'd

59:45.020 --> 59:45.400
gotten all the

59:45.400 --> 59:45.960
Bluetooth out of

59:45.960 --> 59:46.380
our system.

59:47.020 --> 59:47.580
But this is

59:47.580 --> 59:48.260
something I thought

59:48.260 --> 59:48.800
cool, and it's

59:48.800 --> 59:49.880
very short, and

59:49.880 --> 59:50.700
that is the new

59:50.700 --> 59:53.360
2004 Toyota Prius

59:53.360 --> 59:54.020
or Prius?

59:54.860 --> 59:55.180
How do you

59:55.180 --> 59:55.980
pronounce it, the

59:55.980 --> 59:56.800
hybrid engine, the

59:56.800 --> 59:57.320
hybrid car?

59:57.420 --> 59:57.920
Is it Prius?

59:58.100 --> 59:58.840
I would say

59:58.840 --> 01:00:00.300
Prius, but, you

01:00:00.300 --> 01:00:00.940
know, that's me

01:00:00.940 --> 01:00:01.700
being illiterate.

01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:02.060
Right.

01:00:02.240 --> 01:00:02.980
I think it's

01:00:02.980 --> 01:00:04.020
pronounced Prius,

01:00:04.120 --> 01:00:05.120
but Prius, Prius,

01:00:05.180 --> 01:00:06.180
however it's called.

01:00:06.600 --> 01:00:07.140
They have a new

01:00:07.140 --> 01:00:08.280
Toyota in 2004.

01:00:08.340 --> 01:00:09.100
The new hybrid,

01:00:09.340 --> 01:00:09.880
the new hybrid.

01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:10.340
They had it in

01:00:10.340 --> 01:00:10.920
2003.

01:00:11.100 --> 01:00:11.460
They had it, you

01:00:11.460 --> 01:00:11.740
know, it's been

01:00:11.740 --> 01:00:12.220
around for a couple

01:00:12.220 --> 01:00:13.060
years actually, but

01:00:13.060 --> 01:00:14.960
the new model has

01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:15.920
Bluetooth in it.

01:00:16.680 --> 01:00:17.640
Bluetooth support

01:00:17.640 --> 01:00:18.220
built into the

01:00:18.220 --> 01:00:18.440
car.

01:00:18.820 --> 01:00:19.400
You can have

01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:20.040
hands-free, and

01:00:20.040 --> 01:00:20.820
it's not the only

01:00:20.820 --> 01:00:21.140
one.

01:00:21.260 --> 01:00:21.780
It's in other

01:00:21.780 --> 01:00:22.480
cars, but this

01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:24.180
one is just doubly

01:00:24.180 --> 01:00:24.860
cool because of

01:00:24.860 --> 01:00:25.400
being a hybrid

01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:25.740
engine.

01:00:27.260 --> 01:00:27.940
But with the

01:00:27.940 --> 01:00:29.020
Bluetooth, you can

01:00:29.020 --> 01:00:30.020
just sit down in

01:00:30.020 --> 01:00:30.420
with the car.

01:00:30.500 --> 01:00:30.980
You don't have to

01:00:30.980 --> 01:00:31.800
connect any wires.

01:00:31.900 --> 01:00:32.380
You don't have to

01:00:32.380 --> 01:00:33.160
hook anything into

01:00:33.160 --> 01:00:33.640
your stereo.

01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:35.220
Like my friend

01:00:35.220 --> 01:00:36.480
had in his SUV,

01:00:36.740 --> 01:00:37.200
you know, I

01:00:37.200 --> 01:00:37.460
thought it was

01:00:37.460 --> 01:00:38.160
really cool that

01:00:38.160 --> 01:00:39.260
he could put his

01:00:39.260 --> 01:00:39.940
phone into a

01:00:39.940 --> 01:00:41.960
little coupler and

01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:43.340
just use the

01:00:43.340 --> 01:00:44.020
speakerphone while

01:00:44.020 --> 01:00:44.720
driving down the

01:00:44.720 --> 01:00:45.300
road, just free

01:00:45.300 --> 01:00:46.020
voice using the

01:00:46.020 --> 01:00:46.300
speakers.

01:00:46.380 --> 01:00:46.840
It's built into

01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:48.420
the car and the

01:00:48.420 --> 01:00:49.220
receiver built into

01:00:49.220 --> 01:00:50.160
the speakerphone.

01:00:50.820 --> 01:00:51.680
That was cool.

01:00:52.020 --> 01:00:52.760
Well, with this, it's

01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:53.500
the same thing except

01:00:53.500 --> 01:00:54.100
you don't even have

01:00:54.100 --> 01:00:54.760
to drop it into the

01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:54.980
coupler.

01:00:55.100 --> 01:00:55.680
Just get in the

01:00:55.680 --> 01:00:55.900
car.

01:00:56.700 --> 01:00:57.160
Sit down.

01:00:57.240 --> 01:00:57.860
You keep it in your

01:00:57.860 --> 01:00:58.320
holster.

01:00:58.440 --> 01:00:59.000
You keep it on your

01:00:59.000 --> 01:00:59.220
belt.

01:00:59.300 --> 01:00:59.880
You keep it in your

01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:00.580
pocket, wherever.

01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:01.960
The Bluetooth takes

01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:02.760
over, connects with

01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:04.240
the car, and bam, you

01:01:04.240 --> 01:01:04.920
can talk through the

01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:05.680
speakers, talk through

01:01:05.680 --> 01:01:06.500
the speakerphone stuff

01:01:06.500 --> 01:01:07.420
built into the car.

01:01:07.860 --> 01:01:08.520
That's cool.

01:01:08.520 --> 01:01:10.300
And it'll support up to

01:01:10.300 --> 01:01:11.880
four, up to four

01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:12.700
different ones you can

01:01:12.700 --> 01:01:13.100
register.

01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:14.060
Because the other

01:01:14.060 --> 01:01:14.620
thing is, it'd be

01:01:14.620 --> 01:01:15.300
funny if you walk

01:01:15.300 --> 01:01:16.260
past a car with your

01:01:16.260 --> 01:01:17.820
Bluetooth phone and

01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:18.800
start talking on their

01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:19.760
speakers inside the

01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:20.000
car.

01:01:20.560 --> 01:01:21.620
That could be funny.

01:01:22.380 --> 01:01:22.900
War driving?

01:01:23.860 --> 01:01:25.320
Is that a new form of

01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:25.760
war driving?

01:01:26.600 --> 01:01:27.720
Well, actually, I

01:01:27.720 --> 01:01:28.100
don't know if you

01:01:28.100 --> 01:01:29.020
remember my post a

01:01:29.020 --> 01:01:29.720
while back when

01:01:29.720 --> 01:01:30.540
somebody posted on

01:01:30.540 --> 01:01:32.380
those robotic legs that

01:01:32.380 --> 01:01:33.100
they were working on

01:01:33.100 --> 01:01:34.260
for the elderly, but

01:01:34.260 --> 01:01:34.960
they were going to,

01:01:35.060 --> 01:01:35.900
they had this place,

01:01:36.020 --> 01:01:37.300
that 802-11B.

01:01:37.740 --> 01:01:38.620
So now not only do

01:01:38.620 --> 01:01:40.280
you have an army of

01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:41.360
robotic elderly people,

01:01:41.660 --> 01:01:42.140
but now you have a

01:01:42.140 --> 01:01:43.080
way to transport them.

01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:44.260
Yes, you can take

01:01:44.260 --> 01:01:44.880
over the world.

01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.020
Yeah, just march them,

01:01:47.220 --> 01:01:48.040
yeah, never mind.

01:01:49.060 --> 01:01:50.040
The word lemmings

01:01:50.040 --> 01:01:50.840
came to mind, but I

01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:51.700
won't go there.

01:01:52.720 --> 01:01:53.620
That's just evil.

01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:54.760
Oh, God.

01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:55.360
You can go to Florida

01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:56.380
with all those old

01:01:56.380 --> 01:01:57.740
people, so yeah, that

01:01:57.740 --> 01:01:58.220
could work.

01:01:58.780 --> 01:01:59.140
Exactly.

01:01:59.820 --> 01:02:00.600
You can send them

01:02:00.600 --> 01:02:01.360
east or west.

01:02:01.420 --> 01:02:01.860
They're going to hit

01:02:01.860 --> 01:02:02.160
water.

01:02:02.220 --> 01:02:02.800
It doesn't matter.

01:02:03.660 --> 01:02:04.740
Or alligator bait.

01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:05.400
They'll be marching

01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:06.100
to the sea.

01:02:07.820 --> 01:02:09.160
I started off in such

01:02:09.160 --> 01:02:09.980
a bad mood with the

01:02:09.980 --> 01:02:11.160
whole AOL thing, but

01:02:11.160 --> 01:02:12.400
God, I'm in such a

01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.740
good mood because that

01:02:14.740 --> 01:02:15.380
was such a great

01:02:15.380 --> 01:02:15.700
story.

01:02:16.300 --> 01:02:17.560
That was, you know,

01:02:17.680 --> 01:02:18.740
we posted in the

01:02:18.740 --> 01:02:19.900
forums that there was

01:02:19.900 --> 01:02:20.700
a big announcement on

01:02:20.700 --> 01:02:21.380
the show, and now you

01:02:21.380 --> 01:02:21.840
know what it was.

01:02:22.220 --> 01:02:23.700
Anyway, the Prius,

01:02:23.780 --> 01:02:24.400
the Prius, whatever

01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.240
it's called, hands-free,

01:02:27.560 --> 01:02:28.340
register up to four

01:02:28.340 --> 01:02:29.320
phones in it, so you

01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:30.400
and your friend, your

01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:30.980
friend gets in the

01:02:30.980 --> 01:02:32.700
car, his phone, his

01:02:32.700 --> 01:02:33.420
Bluetooth phone will

01:02:33.420 --> 01:02:34.420
work just as easily as

01:02:34.420 --> 01:02:35.720
yours, your mom, whoever

01:02:35.720 --> 01:02:36.440
you have in the car,

01:02:36.520 --> 01:02:36.800
whatever.

01:02:37.940 --> 01:02:39.100
And like I said, that's

01:02:39.100 --> 01:02:40.100
not, I think that's in

01:02:40.100 --> 01:02:41.500
other cars, but it's

01:02:41.500 --> 01:02:42.440
extra cool because in

01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:43.780
the Prius, I'm going to

01:02:43.780 --> 01:02:44.500
call it the Prius, I

01:02:44.500 --> 01:02:45.520
don't know, in the

01:02:45.520 --> 01:02:46.700
Prius that it's, because

01:02:46.700 --> 01:02:47.380
of the hybrid engine,

01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:49.240
you're getting 60 miles

01:02:49.240 --> 01:02:50.200
per gallon on the

01:02:50.200 --> 01:02:51.420
highway and 51 in the

01:02:51.420 --> 01:02:51.700
city.

01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:54.640
That is elite.

01:02:55.300 --> 01:02:56.700
That is an amazing

01:02:56.700 --> 01:02:58.500
piece of machinery, and

01:02:58.500 --> 01:02:59.940
people should be excited

01:02:59.940 --> 01:03:00.700
about that.

01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:02.680
It's gotten more power in

01:03:02.680 --> 01:03:03.200
this latest one.

01:03:03.240 --> 01:03:04.000
The problem is the

01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:04.420
power.

01:03:05.020 --> 01:03:06.080
So, as they start

01:03:06.080 --> 01:03:07.080
refining and get this

01:03:07.080 --> 01:03:07.800
working in, where they

01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:08.540
can start putting some

01:03:08.540 --> 01:03:09.620
more and more power into

01:03:09.620 --> 01:03:10.980
it, it's not bad.

01:03:11.040 --> 01:03:12.040
It's getting better and

01:03:12.040 --> 01:03:12.240
better.

01:03:12.380 --> 01:03:13.280
It's almost able to

01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:14.240
compete with pretty much

01:03:14.240 --> 01:03:17.060
any other low-end car in

01:03:17.060 --> 01:03:17.980
a similar price range,

01:03:18.080 --> 01:03:19.840
similar category.

01:03:20.600 --> 01:03:21.640
But the fact that this

01:03:21.640 --> 01:03:22.700
thing uses so much less

01:03:22.700 --> 01:03:24.220
gasoline, and you can get

01:03:24.220 --> 01:03:25.880
so much farther on it, and

01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:27.780
the state of this country

01:03:27.780 --> 01:03:28.860
right now, and the state

01:03:28.860 --> 01:03:30.180
of the world right now, and

01:03:30.180 --> 01:03:32.180
fuel crisis, and all the

01:03:32.180 --> 01:03:33.560
troubles that spawn from

01:03:33.560 --> 01:03:35.160
all the money involved

01:03:35.160 --> 01:03:36.960
with that, screw the gas,

01:03:37.080 --> 01:03:37.300
man.

01:03:37.780 --> 01:03:38.500
Screw that.

01:03:39.060 --> 01:03:39.960
Keep going in this

01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:40.280
direction.

01:03:40.420 --> 01:03:41.400
I fully support this.

01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:43.220
This is a very, very,

01:03:43.340 --> 01:03:44.480
very good thing.

01:03:45.680 --> 01:03:46.960
And finally, one more

01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:48.180
silly, fun little story,

01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:49.400
and this is just, this

01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:50.560
one makes me laugh, too.

01:03:51.240 --> 01:03:52.280
Microsoft, our good

01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:53.400
friends at my, we can't

01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:54.160
have an episode without

01:03:54.160 --> 01:03:54.920
something Microsoft.

01:03:55.980 --> 01:03:57.360
Microsoft was awarded

01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.900
a patent for, you ready

01:04:00.900 --> 01:04:02.280
for this, for, you know

01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:03.380
what, you go with this

01:04:03.380 --> 01:04:03.560
story.

01:04:03.640 --> 01:04:04.220
You tell them this

01:04:04.220 --> 01:04:04.800
story, because I'm

01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:05.480
about to laugh.

01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:06.480
All right.

01:04:06.900 --> 01:04:08.320
Microsoft was awarded a

01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:09.940
patent for the, your

01:04:09.940 --> 01:04:11.080
buddy is typing feature

01:04:11.080 --> 01:04:12.300
on IM software.

01:04:12.660 --> 01:04:13.340
Yeah, that's right.

01:04:13.520 --> 01:04:14.460
That little fucking thing

01:04:14.460 --> 01:04:15.340
that's quite annoying

01:04:15.340 --> 01:04:15.880
sometimes.

01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:17.340
Yeah, they have a patent

01:04:17.340 --> 01:04:17.840
for it.

01:04:18.660 --> 01:04:20.200
Microsoft has a patent

01:04:20.200 --> 01:04:22.160
that soon, they will be

01:04:22.160 --> 01:04:23.480
the only ones that can

01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:24.560
have a little thing at

01:04:24.560 --> 01:04:25.460
the bottom that says,

01:04:25.860 --> 01:04:26.920
your buddy is typing.

01:04:28.160 --> 01:04:29.500
Oh, yeah, that's earth

01:04:29.500 --> 01:04:30.820
shattering right there.

01:04:30.820 --> 01:04:33.780
Boy, is that not, I'm so

01:04:33.780 --> 01:04:34.680
glad they got a patent

01:04:34.680 --> 01:04:35.220
on that.

01:04:35.740 --> 01:04:36.320
I just want to know if

01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:37.120
there's a way to hack

01:04:37.120 --> 01:04:38.120
that and change the

01:04:38.120 --> 01:04:38.740
verbs out.

01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:39.900
To say?

01:04:40.260 --> 01:04:41.440
Your buddy is fucking,

01:04:41.820 --> 01:04:42.140
what?

01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:43.820
Your buddy is jacking

01:04:43.820 --> 01:04:44.460
off right now.

01:04:44.520 --> 01:04:44.780
What?

01:04:44.900 --> 01:04:45.640
Wait, where did that

01:04:45.640 --> 01:04:46.140
come from?

01:04:46.560 --> 01:04:47.000
No.

01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:47.200
Oh.

01:04:50.040 --> 01:04:51.500
And, you know, they,

01:04:51.620 --> 01:04:52.760
they were awarded the

01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:52.940
patent.

01:04:53.020 --> 01:04:53.600
That's the other thing.

01:04:53.660 --> 01:04:55.020
The patent office, don't

01:04:55.020 --> 01:04:55.860
even get me started on

01:04:55.860 --> 01:04:57.060
what a joke that is.

01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:57.580
Right.

01:04:57.580 --> 01:04:58.540
You can patent so many

01:04:58.540 --> 01:04:59.580
stupid things and they'll

01:04:59.580 --> 01:05:01.140
give you these patents

01:05:01.140 --> 01:05:03.380
that are just so ridiculous.

01:05:03.700 --> 01:05:04.840
Is anybody really, is it

01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:05.820
going to change the

01:05:05.820 --> 01:05:07.960
instant message war because

01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:09.460
only one of them has that

01:05:09.460 --> 01:05:09.720
feature?

01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:10.320
Oh, well.

01:05:10.860 --> 01:05:12.660
It's so important to me that

01:05:12.660 --> 01:05:13.820
I know when my buddy is

01:05:13.820 --> 01:05:15.240
typing that I have to use

01:05:15.240 --> 01:05:16.220
the MSN messenger.

01:05:16.780 --> 01:05:17.900
I can't use any other.

01:05:17.980 --> 01:05:19.320
How will I ever know that

01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:20.640
my buddy is typing?

01:05:21.200 --> 01:05:22.120
I can see their new ad,

01:05:22.200 --> 01:05:23.720
MSN, the stalker's choice.

01:05:24.140 --> 01:05:24.320
Yeah.

01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:25.580
It's so ludicrous.

01:05:25.580 --> 01:05:26.340
It's so ludicrous.

01:05:26.820 --> 01:05:28.980
It's so silly, but they

01:05:28.980 --> 01:05:29.400
got it.

01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:31.520
And, they really do.

01:05:31.640 --> 01:05:32.460
They, they went after

01:05:32.460 --> 01:05:33.540
this because they think

01:05:33.540 --> 01:05:34.300
they're going to get a

01:05:34.300 --> 01:05:35.220
leg up in the instant

01:05:35.220 --> 01:05:36.020
message battle.

01:05:36.540 --> 01:05:37.440
They think this is going

01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:38.480
to give them the extra

01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:39.200
market share because

01:05:39.200 --> 01:05:40.080
there's so many people

01:05:40.080 --> 01:05:41.580
out there sitting around

01:05:41.580 --> 01:05:42.300
with their thumb up their

01:05:42.300 --> 01:05:43.980
ass going, duh, is my

01:05:43.980 --> 01:05:44.680
buddy typing?

01:05:45.700 --> 01:05:46.820
Come on.

01:05:47.420 --> 01:05:48.840
It's just ridiculous.

01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:50.880
Just so stupid.

01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:51.700
How many, how much

01:05:51.700 --> 01:05:53.500
money do you think, ah,

01:05:53.680 --> 01:05:54.240
forget it.

01:05:54.240 --> 01:05:55.360
Let's, let's wrap the

01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:55.960
show up, man.

01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:57.040
Let's, let's close out.

01:05:57.120 --> 01:05:59.080
This was a fun, fun

01:05:59.080 --> 01:06:00.340
topics on this show.

01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:04.480
Um, oh man.

01:06:05.540 --> 01:06:07.300
Let's close and let's

01:06:07.300 --> 01:06:09.420
remind people again that

01:06:09.420 --> 01:06:10.920
this Friday, the 5th it

01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:11.240
is, right?

01:06:11.300 --> 01:06:12.000
Did I say the 5th?

01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:12.920
Yeah.

01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:14.460
December the 5th, I think

01:06:14.460 --> 01:06:14.720
it is.

01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:15.760
This Friday anyway.

01:06:15.980 --> 01:06:16.640
Yeah, the 5th.

01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:18.760
This Friday, your 2600

01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:19.220
meetings.

01:06:19.500 --> 01:06:21.080
Go to your 2600 meetings

01:06:21.080 --> 01:06:23.080
or your DEF CON meetings

01:06:23.080 --> 01:06:24.620
or your just hang out

01:06:24.620 --> 01:06:25.400
with your geek friend.

01:06:25.460 --> 01:06:27.140
Whatever you call it is

01:06:27.140 --> 01:06:27.720
unimportant.

01:06:28.600 --> 01:06:29.400
Traditionally, it's been

01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:30.680
2600 meetings, but I know

01:06:30.680 --> 01:06:31.960
there's others now and some

01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:33.220
people are switching names

01:06:33.220 --> 01:06:34.600
and it doesn't matter

01:06:34.600 --> 01:06:35.280
what you call it.

01:06:35.380 --> 01:06:36.760
Go to the meeting, hang out

01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:38.080
with fellow hackers, have

01:06:38.080 --> 01:06:39.360
fun, talk about hacking,

01:06:39.520 --> 01:06:41.580
talk about security, have fun

01:06:41.580 --> 01:06:43.740
and laugh at the big hack.

01:06:44.020 --> 01:06:45.000
Have fun and laugh at

01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:46.500
whatever, whatever it is

01:06:46.500 --> 01:06:46.940
you want.

01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:48.420
Go have fun, hang out,

01:06:48.500 --> 01:06:50.260
meet people, develop some

01:06:50.260 --> 01:06:52.240
networking, you know.

01:06:53.100 --> 01:06:53.940
Just go do it.

01:06:53.980 --> 01:06:54.620
Go have fun.

01:06:55.160 --> 01:06:57.000
Um, shouts, um, I think

01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:58.540
we both were going to send

01:06:58.540 --> 01:07:00.280
shoutouts to N Theory today.

01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:02.980
Um, N Theory was on, um,

01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:04.660
Default Radio this past

01:07:04.660 --> 01:07:06.860
week, um, with Decoder.

01:07:07.260 --> 01:07:08.320
Shouts to him again for

01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:09.660
being, he's, Decoder's just

01:07:09.660 --> 01:07:10.860
so funny to me sometimes.

01:07:10.860 --> 01:07:11.740
I was like, we, he and I

01:07:11.740 --> 01:07:13.300
will just instant message

01:07:13.300 --> 01:07:14.640
and laugh so, so much

01:07:14.640 --> 01:07:17.180
during the day and I, I, I

01:07:17.180 --> 01:07:18.040
come out of a meeting

01:07:18.040 --> 01:07:19.380
frustrated and he makes me

01:07:19.380 --> 01:07:19.780
laugh.

01:07:20.820 --> 01:07:22.520
Uh, shouts to Decoder,

01:07:22.660 --> 01:07:23.260
shouts to N Theory,

01:07:23.380 --> 01:07:24.260
welcome back, man.

01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:25.120
We're going to try to have

01:07:25.120 --> 01:07:26.660
N Theory, if he can make it

01:07:26.660 --> 01:07:28.260
on the show next week, uh,

01:07:28.260 --> 01:07:29.460
or at least sometime in the

01:07:29.460 --> 01:07:30.620
near future, get him back

01:07:30.620 --> 01:07:32.440
in the show more often.

01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:34.440
Um, very elite guy.

01:07:34.700 --> 01:07:35.740
And, uh, did you have

01:07:35.740 --> 01:07:36.460
anybody else?

01:07:36.540 --> 01:07:37.360
Do you want to shout out

01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:38.300
your snow cone buddies

01:07:38.300 --> 01:07:39.660
at, uh, Freak Nick?

01:07:39.820 --> 01:07:40.740
Shout out to Hillbilly

01:07:40.740 --> 01:07:41.340
Hackers.

01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:42.460
Hillbilly Hackers.

01:07:42.460 --> 01:07:43.860
Although Rivera, without

01:07:43.860 --> 01:07:45.380
him, I wouldn't have my

01:07:45.380 --> 01:07:48.120
under, my undercover skills.

01:07:48.620 --> 01:07:48.940
Yeah.

01:07:49.200 --> 01:07:51.580
Now, also, um...

01:07:51.580 --> 01:07:52.380
And for anybody who

01:07:52.380 --> 01:07:53.280
doesn't get that little

01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:54.180
end joke about the

01:07:54.180 --> 01:07:55.000
Hillbilly Hackers, that

01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:57.100
was like on, oh my gosh,

01:07:57.160 --> 01:07:57.780
what episode?

01:07:58.560 --> 01:07:59.880
The episode, go back

01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:00.900
through the episode list

01:08:00.900 --> 01:08:02.320
and search for Freak Nick

01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:03.620
in the show notes and

01:08:03.620 --> 01:08:05.020
re-listen to that episode

01:08:05.020 --> 01:08:06.220
and you'll get the

01:08:06.220 --> 01:08:07.220
little snow cone joke.

01:08:08.040 --> 01:08:08.860
Uh, shout out to

01:08:08.860 --> 01:08:09.940
Bland's well, apparently

01:08:09.940 --> 01:08:10.840
well-hung dog.

01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:11.720
Um, yeah, we have to

01:08:11.720 --> 01:08:12.440
give a shout out to him.

01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:13.920
Yeah, that's going to

01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:14.680
have to make it in the

01:08:14.680 --> 01:08:15.640
gallery at some point,

01:08:15.740 --> 01:08:17.420
but I'm just scared.

01:08:17.580 --> 01:08:18.440
Bland loves to

01:08:18.440 --> 01:08:20.080
Photoshop Duel, and I,

01:08:20.220 --> 01:08:21.040
that could get ugly.

01:08:21.620 --> 01:08:22.600
That could get really

01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:23.560
ugly, so I hope that

01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.240
doesn't, I hope that

01:08:25.240 --> 01:08:25.860
doesn't happen.

01:08:26.620 --> 01:08:27.940
Oh, shout out to anybody

01:08:27.940 --> 01:08:28.780
filling up the gallery.

01:08:28.860 --> 01:08:30.060
The gallery's so fun to

01:08:30.060 --> 01:08:30.840
look at, and there's so

01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:32.240
many cool screenshots out

01:08:32.240 --> 01:08:32.580
there.

01:08:33.360 --> 01:08:36.540
Um, man, some people

01:08:36.540 --> 01:08:38.840
just have so much more

01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:39.760
artistic talent and

01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:40.780
creativity than I do.

01:08:41.260 --> 01:08:42.520
I love going out there

01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:43.160
and looking at that

01:08:43.160 --> 01:08:43.440
stuff.

01:08:44.480 --> 01:08:46.040
Um, I guess that's it.

01:08:46.120 --> 01:08:46.980
Did I interrupt you?

01:08:47.020 --> 01:08:47.640
Did you have another?

01:08:48.160 --> 01:08:48.880
No, that's it.

01:08:48.980 --> 01:08:49.660
Are we done with the

01:08:49.660 --> 01:08:49.920
shouts?

01:08:50.020 --> 01:08:52.220
Alright, we are going to

01:08:52.220 --> 01:08:54.940
close with another new

01:08:54.940 --> 01:08:55.380
group.

01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:56.140
It's called, they're

01:08:56.140 --> 01:08:58.280
pronounced Shun, but it's

01:08:58.280 --> 01:08:59.900
S-S-I-O-N, if you

01:08:59.900 --> 01:09:00.600
want to search for it,

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and of course we'll put

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the link up.

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And the song is called

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Who's Your Favorite

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Baby?

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A little throwback, I

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like that song.

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Uh, email us, letters

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at binrev.com.

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And that is it.

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So, voodoo howl.

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When are we going to see

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everyone again?

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Next week.

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Same hack time?

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Same hack channel.

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You got it.

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Good night.

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See you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Take out the trash, take out the trash, take out the trash, blow it all the way.

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Take out the trash, take out the trash, blow it all the way

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Change, don't you throw my love away

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Hello, my name is Berlin and I am from Germany

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Hi, my name is Lewis Portnacht in Kentucky

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Hi, my name is Brooklyn and I am from New York motherfucking city, bitch

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Hi, my name is Little Rock and I am from Arkansas

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Hey, what's your major?

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My major is fuck

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Who's your favorite baby?

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Tell me I'm the one

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Who's your favorite baby?

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Say my name and we might have a baby

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I can't feel down to the low

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I think I mean what I say

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I'm so ready for the low

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I feel like I'm not yesterday

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Hey, what's your favorite baby?

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Tell me I'm the one

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Who's your favorite baby?

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Say my name and we might have a baby

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Decisive Call

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And my name is Brooklyn

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We'll be right back.