This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million game pegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled hoe
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll school you on burning dreamcast
You need some ISO, let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ, leave you flat on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RANs, SIPs, SISs
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack
And hello listeners, this is Stank Dog and you are listening to Binary Revolution Radio Episode 27
Coming to you on Tuesday, January 6th
I have with me today one of my favorite co-hosts
The one and only Voodoo Hal
Welcome back to the show
What's up guys?
Did you have a good holiday?
Yeah, worked
Yeah, same with me
I worked through most of the holidays
So we are back going
Trying to get back into the flow of things
We had the telephonic craptacular
Gave us a little bit of a break
And Mute and I recorded last week
So we're getting back into the flow of things
And today's show
Is really packed with a lot of stuff
This is one of the biggest
Got a lot of show notes in here
I got a lot of different topics
I got a lot of stuff to talk about off the top of my head
So I think we probably jump right into the housekeeping section
One of the first things
Here's one thing I have been wanting to mention for a couple weeks now
And that's the distributed.net team
We have been climbing slowly and steadily
And consistently, which is a good thing
And we're pulling
By the time you're hearing this
We may have cracked the top 300
Obviously as you get towards the top
It's kind of a
What is it?
Law of diminishing returns
We used to jump like sometimes
Two, three spots at a time
One or two spots
Now we're only going to be jumping like
One or two spots a week
If that
So it's starting to slow down
As we catch up with some of the top teams
But we are breaking in the top 300
And it's thanks to
We have five people
At the top of the team
That are every day
Almost every day
Are putting up consistent numbers
Of some sort
So I'm going to give
Save shouts for the land of the show
But I'll give shouts out here at the beginning
To Twirls especially
Who's been cranking out numbers consistently
Huge, huge asset
Putting up big numbers for the team
In theory, of course
In theory, regularly putting up
Not only this
But a lot of other stuff
Always producing stuff
Turmoil
Turmoil who's been around
For a long time as well
And Austin
XU
Consistently putting up numbers
Like the top four or five
On the team
And we actually have 25 total members
On the team
And counting
So we're going to keep climbing
And I just wanted to stop
And give a shout out
To those individuals
And everybody
Who's putting up numbers
I know everybody doesn't have
A lot of computing power
But every little bit helps
Throw it on whatever little computer
You've got
Throw it on your laptop
Throw it on your
You know
Your 300 megahertz box
And it'll put up some numbers
Every few days
So every little bit helps
And anybody who's interested
You can go to the forums
The Digital Dog House
Or go to
Forums.binrev.com
And look for the
Distributed.net forum
And it'll give you all the information
On joining
And setting up
And running the client
Efficiently
So with that out of the way
We'll jump into the email
And I actually got
A lot of feedback
A lot of email
A lot of posts
And instant messages
On the
On lots of things actually
So
Not having feedback
I don't know if that's a good thing
Or a bad thing
But this time
We got it in spades
So
One of the things
That I got a lot of feedback
On this time
From last week's show
Was my
My hatred for
AOL instant messenger
Which
Voodoo Hal
Has been on the receiving end
Of my
Instant message rants
Quite a few times
I thought you were a big fan
After the last one
No
As
As you
As a lot of the listeners know
And you especially
I switched a trillion
At home
I have not gotten around
To switching my work stuff
Over yet
Only to torment your cat
Though right
Yeah
Oh that's a
That's an end joke
We'll have to explain
That one later
Um
I had a lot of suggestions
About how to handle
The situation
And
Some of them were
From use linux
To use mac
Stuff like that
Obviously
I don't have that luxury
All the time
Um
The box that I work on
Mostly is still an xp box
Um
And people recommended
Old versions dot com
Now
Which is
To download a previous version
Before they had support
For the ads
And the codex
And stuff like that
Built into it
That's a great idea
But
Frankly it's kind of a
It's a
I don't even want to
Support AOL
I never have wanted
To support AOL
Frankly
But I'm so upset
And offended now
That I don't even want
To touch their old
Versions anymore
I'd rather find
An alternative client
So
Trillion
I installed a week
Or two ago
As I mentioned
And it's been working
Fine so far
No problems
Um
I don't demand
Or ask much of it
I mean
I really
I don't want to go
Into a rant
All I ask
Is did it work
Without impeding me
With pop ups
And ads
And movies
And
I don't see
Why that's such
A big demand
I'm not the guy
Who sends back
Everything at the restaurant
I'm easily
Happy
Just
Make the software
Work
And get out of the way
Don't make it so
Damn intrusive
So
Anyway
Trillion seems to work
I'm happy with it
I'm going to stick
With that for now
So thanks to everyone
For their suggestions
I like the used Mac answer
Personally
What's that?
I like the used Mac
Answer personally
Yeah
I got that from a couple people
Win or mute of course
Who
If you listen to RFA
I'm
I wonder if he's still on his
Used Mac kick
After his Mac died on him
Listen to RFA
94
I think it is
The latest
Episode of
Radio Freak America
Where he's on there
Talking about
How his iBook
Is having some problems
So go check that out
Um
What else
Oh
I got a great email
That's
Frankly
It's too long
And too much information
For me to go into
On this show
Um
From
Pixel Fiend
Which by the way
I love that name
It's got such a great ring
To it
Pixel Fiend
Um
He has a lot of
A lot of
Experience
Excuse me
With live Linux
Distributions
Which I
Mentioned some
Here and there
As I find out
About them
And I think
Back
Gosh
Early 20s
Episodes
We went through
Several of them
Like the
Fire
And um
Morphix
And we talked
About a lot of
The forensic
And security
Distributions
That were live
CDs
And he had
Quite a bit of
Experience with them
And like I said
We might go into
That on another
Show
And read a lot
Of the information
He shared with me
Because it was
Very very good
And maybe I can
Convince him to
Come on the show
And talk about it
I don't know if
We can make that
Happen but we
Might try for that
Um
Final piece of
Email that I
Wanted to share
This week is
From 813
Error
Or 813
Error
Gosh I hope
I don't know how
He pronounces that
I don't know how
I should say that
I want to say 813
Error
We're going to
Go with that
Um
And he says
That he finished
Listening to all
Of our shows
Well that's cool
I've been downloading
Shows for a while
And I like your show
For the information
Almost all of the
Shows I learned
Something new from
What you were
Talking or ranting
About
Uh
Halfway through
Your apps
I downloaded all
The default radio
Shows
Which of course
Are friends
Decoder
Lucky 225
In theory
And a lot of
Other guests
On that show
Um
And cccpr
Which is uh
Hack and slash
And those guys
Just started their
Show
A couple weeks
Ago
Says he also
Got rfa shows
And it's next
On my list
So thanks for
Making a nice
Show
Been nice
Listening
Uh
Thank you very
Much
813
Error
Thank you
Very much
For the
Kind words
It's good
To hear
That
I'm glad
That somebody
Is finding
It interesting
And informative
Um
You said
You know
Learning from
What we're
Talking or
Ranting about
Now we
Really do
I know
It doesn't
Seem like
It sometimes
I really
Do try
To keep
The ranting
And the
Politics
And stuff
Like that
To a
Minimum
I try
Not to
Go
Too much
Into that
And keep
It to the
Tech side
But sometimes
There's some
Overlap
And you know
It can't
Really help
It
But even
If I'm
Doing that
It's
To make
A point
Even when
I rant
For example
About the
AOL messenger
There's a
Point in
That
That they're
Pushing
Software
And codecs
And stuff
Down in
Their client
Software
And whether
It's pushed
Or whether
It's snuck
In there
On the
Install
As some
Sort of
You know
Hidden
Software
What's the
Term
Spyware
That's the
Term I'm
Looking for
Some kind
Of spyware
Little thing
They've snuck
In there
You know
That can cause
Damage and
Problems to
Other things
In your
System
There's
A danger
There
That people
Need to
Open their
Eyes to
So even
When we
Have a
Rant
We usually
Have a
Point or
Something
Behind it
But mainly
We're trying
To teach
People
We're trying
To touch
On topics
And teach
People
New things
Or at least
Let them
Hear about
Them
And they
Might be
Interested
Enough
To go
Find out
More information
On ourselves
We'll share
The experiences
That we have
I know
You and I
Discuss
Some of the
Programming
That we do
For a living
And professionally
And what it's
Like
You know
Working as
A programmer
Or as
A sysadmin
Or as
Whatever
And kind of
Share those
Experiences
Teach what
We are
Familiar with
And frankly
What we
Aren't
Familiar
I do
I do a lot
Of research
For the show
When I
Come up
With an
Interesting
Topic
Or an
Interesting
News story
I go
Research it
And I
Learn about
It
Because
You know
I don't
Know
Everything
Heck
I don't
Know very
Much
To be
Right
Frank
So I
Do a lot
Of research
And I
Learn myself
Doing the
Show
So it's
Beneficial to
Me as
Well
So
Thank you
Again
For that
I'm glad
That you
Get something
Out of it
I try to
Get something
Out of it
Myself
And I
Try to
Put
Something
Back
Into it
So
Thank you
Very much
I do
Appreciate
Hearing back
From you
It does
Mean a lot
To hear
Somebody say
That
So
I
Think you
Agree
With that
Or
Definitely
I mean
I do
You know
When I'm
Reading for
These stories
I learn
More
Doing the
Show notes
Than I might
Learn at a
Week
You know
At work
Or even
In school
You know
So
Hackers
Teach themselves
A lot
I think
We all
Know that
Now
I've been
Busy
This week
Too
So
When we
Come down
To
Talking about
What we've
Been working
On
Why don't
You go
First
And
I've been
Gabbering
Jabbering
On
So
Why don't
You
What have
You been
Working
On
Well I
Know what
You've
Been
Working
On
Why don't
You share
Some of
The interesting
Stuff that
You've been
Working
On
Lately
Okay
We'll
Start
With
The
Simple
Stuff
Finally
Moved
My
Web
Server
Over
To
Different
Machines
I guess
That's
Some
Good
News
The big
News
Is
I'm
Being
I'm
Volunteering
I guess
Is the
Word
To set
Up
A
Giant
DVD
Ripping
Cluster
Actually
It's
Got to
Be
Pretty
Cool
30
We have
Four
Eight
Bit
Eight
Bit
Cut
Four
Eight
Bit
machines
Yeah
We have
Four
Eight
Processor
Machines
And
Eight
Bit
That's
Like
Nintendo
Entertainment
System
Yes
We have
A cluster
Of
Nintendos
Dude
That would
Be
Elite
A cluster
Of
NDS
Working
On
Distributed
Dot
Net
That would
Be
So
Fat
One
Packet
Per
Year
All
Right
But
Yeah
We have
A total
Of
32
Processors
Pretty
Heavy
Duty
Machines
Eight
Processors
Each
Four
Gigs
Of
Memory
Or
Yeah
Two
Or
Four
Gigs
Of
Memory
I
Forgot
Already
And
We
Also
Have
Six
Ripping
Nodes
That
Primarily
Just
Take
The
V.O.B.
Off
Of
The
DVDs
Themselves
And
Dump
Them
Onto
Another
Server
That
We
Have
With
Two
Terabytes
Of
Storage
Over
A
Gigabit
Ethernet
So
We're
Pretty
Good
That's
Going to
Be
Pretty
Fun
That
Is
A
Lot
Of
Power
That
Is
A
Lot
Of
Power
Yes
That
Is
Going to
Be
Interesting
Also
Just
We
Didn't
Talk
About
This
Before
But
Got
A
New
Explorer
Which
Is
Interesting
Driving
Considering
I've
Been
Driving
A
Protégé
I've
Had
Two
Protégés
And
A
Honda
Civic
So
Little
Cars
To
This
Big
Ass
Thing
It's
Quite
A
Transition
Yeah
I'm
Going to
Kill
Somebody
Cutting
People
Off
And
Forgetting
I
Have
A
Giant
Ass
So
Is
This
An
03
Or
An
04
Actually
This
Is
An
Older
One
Oh
You
My
Protégé
But
It
Made
More
Sense
Well
You
Get
Really
Odd
Looks
Driving
A
Protégé
That
Looks
Like
A
Lowrider
For
Some
Reason
And
They
Look
In
The
Back
Seat
And
There's
A
Compact
Prolient
Rack
Mount
Server
That
Weighs
200
Pounds
Sitting
Back
There
I
Served
Around
With
One
Of
Those
For
Two
Months
In
My
Protégé
I
The
Mobile
Mainframe
Running
Off
An
LCD
In
The
Front
That's
Actually
Why
I
Got
The
Explorer
So
I
Could
Put
This
DVD
Ripping
Collector
In
The
Explorer
Itself
Stop
By
Blockbuster
Pop
The
DVD
In
30
Seconds
Later
Take
It
Back
How
Wrong
Would
That
Be
You're
Sitting
Out
In
The
Parking
Lot
You
Walk
Out
Rip
A
Couple
DVD
You
Walk
Back
In
Five
Ten
Minutes
Later
And
Swap
Them
Out
For
More
Each
Of
These
Servers
Require
I
Think
They
Have
Two
To
Four
Power
Supplies
Each
Pull
14
Amps
So
Yeah
Good
Luck
Getting
That
In
Your
Car
Just
Walk
In
With
A
Great
Big
Thick
Extension
Cable
And
Ask
If
You
Plug
In
Can
I
Plug
This
In
Oh
Man
Well
Since
You
Brought
The
Car
Up
I'll
Talk
About
I
My
Whole
Weekend
This
Weekend
Was
Mr.
Vitek
And
I
Did
Some
More
Work
On
The
Snack
Mobile
I
Don't
Think
I
Don't
Know
If
I
Well
I
Guess
I
Probably
Should
Match
Dual
Says
I
Have
A
Bad
Habit
Of
Teasing
And
Not
Giving
The
Information
What
We
What
We
Put
In
The
Car
This
Time
Was
A
DVD
Player
Which
You
And
I
Talked
About
Before
I
Was
Going
To
Do
That
Done
Now
I
Put
In
A
DVD
Player
With
The
LCD
Touch
Panel
Screen
Up
Front
So
We
Mounted
Both
Of
Those
In
Saturday
And
The
Number
Of
Wires
In
This
Monster
Is
Just
Phenomenal
So
It
Was
An
All
Day
Job
And
Today
For
The
Most
Part
We
Finished
Putting
In
The
DVD
Navigation
System
Part
Itself
So
A
Couple
Hours
Ago
I
Just
Wrapped
Up
And
Finished
Got
It
Working
I
Got
A
Few
More
Tweaks
To
Do
I
Have
To
Do
Some
Research
On
Where
To
Plug
Some
Of
This
Stuff
Up
But
I
Got
That
All
Working
So
That
Was
The
Majority
Of
My
Weekend
And
We
Did
Film
It
So
There
Will
Be
A
Segment
On
Hack TV
Showing
Some
Of
The
Detail
Of
It
And
Some
Demos
Of
It
Which
Is
Really
Cool
Where did
You
Put
The
Coffee
Maker
I
Had
To
Put
That
Under
The
Seat
Oh
No
That
Would
Be
You
Everybody
Seen
That
Case
With
The
Coffee
Maker
Built
Into
The
PC
Case
I
Need
To
Slide
That
Into
The
Dashboard
Somehow
Honestly
That's
One
Cliche
I
Don't
Fit
Into
I
Never
Been
A
Big
Coffee
Drinker
Never
Been
A
Big
Coffee
Person
I
Get Up
At
The
Crack
Of
Noon
The
Crack
Of
Noon
Yeah
Other
Okay
Also
Friday
That
Was
Saturday
Friday
I
Did
Have
My
2600
Meeting
Which
Went
Pretty
Well
It
Was
Not
A
Huge
Meeting
But
It
Was
I
Guess
Six
Seven
Eight
People
Maybe
We
Discussed
Possibly
Changing
The
Name
Kicked
Around
Some
Ideas
About
That
And
We
Also
Got
Into
Some
More
Detail
About
Putting
Together
Maybe
Some
Group
But
Maybe
As
An
Event
You
Know
Like
To
Have
Gaming
And
Gaming
Events
And
Land
Parties
And
Stuff
Like
That
We
Thought
About
Putting
Together
Some
Root
Wars
So
Someone
Else
In
Our
Group
Came
Up
With
That
Idea
And
He's
Been
Doing
A lot
Of
Work
Putting
It
Together
So
We
Discussed
Some
Of
The
Logistics
Behind
That
And
How
We
Could
Do
It
And
Brainstorm
Some
Stuff
And
Root Wars
That's
A
Little
Different
Well
That
Is
True
You
Know
What
That's
A
Good
Point
That
Is
A
Very
Good
Point
They
Don't
Have
To
Know
That
What
We're
Playing
Is
King
Of
The
Hill
You
Know
Capture
The
Flag
Whatever
Don't
Let
Them
Know
That
They're
Playing
Too
Yeah
Right
And
That's
The
Other
Funny
Thing
Is
Because
Of
The
Perception
And
Again
We're
Not
Going
Into
That
Hacker
You
Know
What
It
Is
The
Way
We're
Designing
And
Setting
It
Up
Is
Frankly
We
Just
Need
Like
A
Hangar
Or
A
Warehouse
We
Will
Set
Up
All
The
Computers
And
Network
Independently
All
We
Need
Is
Power
To
Plug
In
You
Know
We
Don't
Even
Need
To
Plug
Into
Someone
Else
Network
Or
Internet
Access
Or
Anything
Like
That
We
Just
Need
The
Space
So
I
Got
A
Go
Ahead
And
I
Think
We
Talked
About
This
A
Little
Bit
Before
Also
Setting
Up
Challenges
And
Things
But
I
And
Another
I
Think
You
Guys
Have
Seen
Him
A
Couple
Times
On
The
Boards
Axid
AXID
Formerly
I
Guess
One
Of
The
Co
Hacker
Host
Co
Admins
Whatever
The
You
Want
To
Call
It
We
Been
Setting
Up
More
Gaming
Network
Because
He
Has
One
And
I
Have
One
As
Well
We
Are
Finally
Setting
Up
A
VPN
Between
Them
So
We
Can
Hold
A
Whole
Lot
More
Users
So
If
Anybody
Is
Interested
In
That
They
Can
Check
Out
White
Light
TK
Or
My
Own
Site
www.mojonetworks.net
We
Have
A
Large
Number
Of
Different
Types
Of
Machines
I
Myself
Almost
Have
I
Think
I
Have
Four
Different
Types
Of
RISK
Machines
So
People
Can
Play
On
Other
Things
Other
Than
Intel
Right
I
I've
Got
Things
From
SGI
MIPS
To
Spark
Obviously
I'm
A
Big
Spark
Person
I've
Even
Got
HP
Unix
The
PA
RISK
Boxes
And
Also
MACs
They
Get
The
PPCs
Wow
He's
Got
A
Large
Number
Of
Intel
Boxes
So
I
Mean
There's
A
Large
Number
Of
Different
Types
Of
Things
To
Play
On
We
Haven't
Really
There's
No
Real
Time
But
I
Think
We're
Going
To
Start
Setting
Up
Team
Things
And
Things
Like
That
Yeah
That
Would
Be
I
Think
That
Would
Be
A
Great
Thing
To
Do
I
Think
That
Would
Be
A
Good
Interactive
Thing
That
Everybody
Could
Participate
In
And
Form
Their
Own
Teams
If
They
Wanted
To
I
Would
What
I
Would
Like
To
See
From
A
War
Game
Is
A
Combine
Between
It's
Pointless
I
Would
Like
To
See
But
Other
Than
That
Usually
It's
Just
Find
Your
Way
Into
The
Box
I
Would
Like
To
See
A
Combination
Of
Something
Between
That
And
Between
Like
The
Hack
This
Site
And
Stuff
Like
That
Where
They
Have
Rules
And
They
Set
Up
Holes
Or
They
Set
Up
Things
For
You
To
Look
At
And
Hack
Away
And
Find
At
And
They
Give
You
Some
What
Give
You
Clues
Towards
It
I
Like
To
See
Something
In
The
Middle
Where
There
Might
Be
Some
Clues
Given
Or
Some
Hints
Or
Some
Pointers
But
They're
Very
Vague
And
It's
Just
Enough
Information
To
Get
You
Started
Or
Going
I
Like
To
See
Something
In
The
Middle
There
So
That
It's
Not
Given
To
You
Like
On
Some
Of
The
Others
But
Then
Again
You
Don't
Bang
Your
On
It's
Own
Port
That
Has
A
Buffer
Overflow
In
It
That
Forces
You
Know
There's
Not
Going
To
Be
A
Precompiled
Exploit
For
It
You
Have
To
Do
It
Your
Or
Something
Simple
Like
I
Am
Not
Big
On
Web
Development
I'm
Just
Not
A
Web
Developer
I'm
A
Programmer
For
The
Most
Part
So
A
Lot
Of
Things
In
Web
Security
I
Don't
Understand
I
Don't
Know
And
Then
Each
Of
The
Key
Files
Has
A
You
Know
Like
An
MP5
Hash
Of
Course
And
I
Guess
A
User
Name
Or
Whatever
And
They
Actually
Log
Them
On
To
A
Main
Database
To
Keep
A
Score
And
So
These
Key
Files
Can
Be
Found
Anywhere
On
Any
Service
Not
Necessarily
Just
Breaking
Into
The
Box
That
Kind
Of
What
I
Wanted
To
Do
With
It
Kind
Of
Capture
Dope
You
Know
And
Like
Some
Sort
Of
Hint
System
There
Are
Going
To
Be
The
Thing
Is
I
Want
It
To
Be
Accessible
To
New
Users
And
People
New
To
The
Hacking
Community
That
I
Want
To
Be
Blown
Away
Either
Right
So
Like
Some
Sort
Of
Hint
System
Maybe
Once
You
Get
In
And
Establish
An
Account
Like
You
Mentioned
Or
Keys
To
Upload
For
Points
Or
Whatever
Each
One
Maybe
Giving
You
More
Information
Than
The
Last
To
Kind
Of
Keep
The
Game
Moving
Because
Another
Thing
That
I
Hear
A
Lot
Is
People
Get
Frustrated
They'll
Get
Through
One
Two
Levels
And
Then
They
Get
Hit
A
Wall
And
They
Just
Quit
Right
So
Maybe
Some
Kind
Of
Hint
System
Or
Some
Kind
Of
Help
Obviously
I
Assume
This
Is
Something
They
Would
They
Be
Open
To
Talk
Is
If
Anybody
Wants
To
Volunteer
To
Help
Out
With
This
They
Can
Send
Me
An
E-mail
At
Voodoo
How
At
Den
Rev
Dot
Com
Or
Voodoo
How
At
Mojo
Networks
Dot
Net
Either
Way
I
Get
It
And
We
Could
Use
Any
Volunteers
Anybody
Who
Would
Want
To
Help
Set
This
Up
The
Sooner
We
Get
It
Set
Up
The
Better
Obviously
I
Think
It
I
Don't
Want
Any
Part
Of
That
One
I
Okay
We'll
See
This
Open
BSD
32
Box
Running
On
Spark
5
Yeah
That
Will
Earn
You
A
Thousand
Points
Kind
Of
Thing
Right
Like
You
Have
Different
Scales
Right
Maybe
And
Maybe
By
Earning
Those
Points
You
Spend
Those
Points
For
Hints
Or
Something
On
The
Harder
So
I
Don't
That
Is
Just
Brainstorming
Yeah
This
Just
Brainstorming
But
Yeah
I
Definitely
I
Started
Doing
Things
That
I
Hidden
Out
There
If
Somebody
Hacks
Around
The
Site
They're
Going
To
Find
Some
Hidden
Pages
And
Some
Funny
Jokes
And
Stuff
Like
That
So
I
Already
Started
Making
Some
Little
Things
Like
That
I
Think
Could
Fit
Into
That
Scenario
So
Yeah
That's
Something
I've
Been
Wanting
To
Do
And
Unfortunately
Don't
Have
The
Time
So
Yeah
If
Anybody
Wants
To
Can
Help
Out
Or
Has
Time
To
Help
Out
Contact
Voodoo
How
Like
You
Said
And
I
Would
Love
To
See
That
Get
Going
I
Would
Love
To
See
A
War
Games
Organized
And
Kept
Up
And
Updated
And
The
Other
Thing
Is
Ever
Changing
Updated
New
Additions
And
New
Exploits
And
Stuff
Like
That
Well
Also
The
Great
Part
Is
That
If
Somebody
Wants
To
Donate
Some
Machines
To
The
Games
Obviously
But
That's
Why
We're
Setting
Up
The
VPN
So
That
Way
If
Somebody
Wants
To
Add
Their
Own
Network
To
It
And
Add
Some
Nodes
To
It
Then
They
Can
Just
Connect
To
The
VPN
And
So
To
The
Users
It's
One
Big
Network
Right
And
They
Can
Coordinate
That
Through
You
Then
Yeah
Very
Cool
Very
Cool
Man
Now
Woo
That's
Man
Now
I
Can't
Wait
Now
I
Can't
Wait
We
Had
A
Visitor
From
Out
Of
Town
Who
Was
I
Guess
In
The
Area
For
The
Holidays
Like
A
Lot
Of
People
And
He
Found
Our
Site
On
The
Web
Such
As
It
Is
And
Saw
Where
We
Met
And
Came
Out
And
Visited
And
He
Frankly
Came
Out
And
Said
You'll
Never
See
Me
Again
I'm
Here
For
One
Month
I'm
In
The
Area
I
Thought
I'd
Stop
By
And
Check
It
Out
So
I
Was
Really
It
Was
First
Of
It
Was
Cool
That
He
Actually
Came
Out
To
Check
It
Out
So
I
Mean
I
Know
That's
A
Big
Step
Because
I
Know
A
Lot
Of
People
Even
Myself
I
Sat
At
Home
And
I'm
Like
I
Really
Don't
Know
If
I
Want
To
Get
Into
This
I
Really
Don't
Know
These
People
I
Don't
Know
How
To
Find
Some
A
Group
Up
There
Where
He
Is
At
That
He
Can
Continue
To
Regularly
But
It
Was
And
That's
You
Know
It's
Really
Cool
I'm
Very
Proud
Of
The
People
In
My
Group
They
They've
Always
Been
This
Way
They're
Very
Accommodating
Of
New
People
This
Guy
Came
Right
Out
Said
You'll
Never
See
Me
Again
I'm
Only
Here
For
One
Meeting
And
You
It
Would
Have
Been
Everyone
Else
And
That's
My
Experience
With
The
Meeting
Has
Always
Been
Like
That
We
Don't
Leave
People
Out
Even
No
Matter
What
Level
They
Are
Sometimes
People
Are
More
Advanced
We
Might
Branch
Off
And
Talking
About
A
Subject
But
We
Always
Try
To
Come
Back
And
Involve
Everyone
In
It
And
I
Think
And
Hope
That
Most
Meetings
Most
Of
The
Ones
I
I've
Heard
About
Are
Like
That
If
Anybody
Shows
Up
Of
Course
I
Know
Some
People
Have
That
Problem
And
Oh
My
Other
Big
News
Was
Earlier
This
Week
I
Purchased
An
Omni
Directional
802
11
Antenna
Wi-Fi
Antenna
I
Got
It
From
A
Place
Called
Fleeman
Anderson
And
Bird
Corp
Or
Which
Is
F
Check
Them
Out
It
It's
An
Omni
Directional
I
Had
Been
Looking
For
Cantennas
Frankly
I
Was
Too
Lazy
To
Put
One
Together
Yes
I
Could
Have
The
Directions
Are
All
Over
The
Place
I
Just
Didn't
Have
The
Time
It
Didn't
Feel
Like
Putting
It
Together
So
I
Went
Out
Looking
For
A
Cantenna
Pre-made
A
Nice
Looking
One
To
Do
A
War
Driving
With
To
Put
Inside
The
Stangmobile
And
I
Saw
The
Omni
Directional
Ones
And
I
Was
Chatting
With
Mute
And
He
Actually
Went
On
Mute
Convinced
Me
To
Give
The
Omni
Directional
A
Try
It's
Not
Going
To
Reach
As
Far
As
A
Cantenna
I
Knew
That
And
Of
Course
I
Have
Used
It
Since
Then
And
It
Doesn't
It
Is
Not
Going
To
Reach
As
Far
As
A
Cantenna
Because
It's
Not
You
Don't
Have
The
Ability
To
Aim
It
But
It
Does
Give
You
A
Much
Wider
Area
Of
Effect
You
Can
Pick
Up
Signal
Stronger
From
A
Farther
Distance
Away
You
Still
Can't
Do
It
From
Aiming
The
Can
And
Driving
Further
Away
From
It
Which
Is
Ideal
If
You
Really
Doing
Something
That
You
Shouldn't
Be
Of
Course
It
Would
Be
Nice
To
Be
Far
Away
From
The
Target
But
For
Driving
Around
Just
Doing
General
War
Driving
And
Sniffing
Out
Access
Points
Just
For
The
Fun
Of
It
The
Omni
Directional
Works
Really
Well
So
If
Anybody
Is
Interested
In
That
It
Was
Not
That
Expensive
It
Was
Less
Than
20
I
Think
It
Was
Somewhere
Around
20
To
25
Shipped
For
The
One
I
Got
And
They
Have
Higher
Quality
Ones
If
You
Want
Upwards
Of
So
They
Had
A
Wide
Variety
Go
Check
Out
That
Site
If
You
Are
Interested
In
It
But
For
About
25
You
Can
Get
It
Shipped
A
General
Small
Quality
Normal
Average
Quality
Omni
Directional
Antenna
For
About
20
25
And
It
Will
Enhance
Your
War
Driving
Abilities
It
Really
Will
I
Still
And
The
Other
Thing
Is
Now
That
I
Bought
The
Omni
Directional
I
Have
Something
To
Help
Out
With
My
War
Driving
To
Give
Me
A
Little
More
Range
Now
I
Don't
Know
What
Logic
There
Is
To
This
But
For
Some
Reason
Now
I
Feel
More
Likely
Or
More
Dedicated
To
Going
And
Building
My
Own
Can
Tenna
Because
I
Have
An
Antenna
That
Works
That
Helps
Me
Right
Away
So
I
Got
My
Need
Fulfilled
So
Now
I
Have
A
Luxury
Of
Time
To
Work
On
Making
My
Own
Can
Ten
I
Guess
That
Is
The
Logic
I
Don't
Know
If
That
Makes
Any
Sense
At
All
And
Voodoo
How
Like
We
Were
Talking
About
Before
We've
Been
Working
Through
The
Holidays
All
That
I've
Been
Doing
Is
Oracle
For
The
Past
Couple
Of
Months
I'm
Using
PLSQL
Writing
PLSQL
Programs
Which
Is
SQL
For
Oracle
That
I
Have
To
Use
PLSQL
I
Was
Told
I
Was
Ordered
To
Use
PLSQL
So
I
Have
To
Make
This
Language
Do
What
We
Need
To
Accomplish
Even
Though
It's
Not
The
Best
Tool
For
The
Job
The
Best
Language
For
The
Job
So
I'm
Having
To
Work
With
A
Limited
Language
But
I
Have
Very
Tight
Constraints
To
Stick
To
So
It's
Like
For
That
Square
Peg
So
I've
Been
Pounding
My
Head
At
That
And
I'm
Just
I'm
All
Oracle
Out
Right
Now
I'm
All
Oracle
Out
By
The
Time
This
By
The
Time
This
Streams
I
May
Just
Be
Complete
Mental
Case
That's
Been
My
Week
Now
Let's
Move
To
Some
Actual
Topics
Because
Man
Nobody
I
Think
People
Are
Getting
Tired
Of
Hearing
Me
Complain
About
Oracle
Frankly
Oracle
And
AIM
Yeah
And
AIM
Exactly
I
Hereby
Declare
That
There
Will
Not
Be
Any
Discussion
On
AIM
For
The
Next
Month
At
Least
I
Hereby
Decree
It
Watch
Tomorrow
Some
Big
Controversy
Will
Come
Out
About
AIM
And
I
Won't
Be
Able
To
Talk
About
It
Actually
I
Read
An
Interesting
Article
In
Popular
Science
About
Universities
Which
Is
Something
Near
And
Dear
To
My
Heart
About
How
Universities
Get
Interesting
New
Technology
And
Do
A
Lot
Of
New
Research
And
New
Things
Before
They
Hit
Before
They
Are
Available
For
Public
Consumption
Or
Retail
Consumption
And
I
Thought
A
Couple
Of
These
Were
Interesting
And
I
Don't
Know
If
You
Have
Any
Experience
With
These
But
I
Thought
Maybe
You
Might
Have
Seen
These
As
Well
The
First
One
They
Mention
Was
A
Smart
Board
Rear
Projection
Interactive
White
Board
Yeah
Basically
It's
A
Widescreen
TV
That
Can
Project
Notes
Uses
Digital
Cameras
To
Track
Pointers
And
Hand
Gestures
So
The
Professor
Can
Point
At
It
Or
Point
With
A
Laser
Pointer
Or
Something
Like
That
And
Stand
Back
You
Don't
Have
To
Stand
Up
There
And
Draw
On
It
With
Those
Dry
Erase
Markers
And
Stuff
Like
That
So
I
Don't
We've
Had
Something
Similar
In
Classrooms
I've
Been
In
I
Don't
Know
If
They're
Exactly
The
Same
It
Was
More
Like
A
Projector
It
Wasn't
A
Wide
Screen
Television
It
Was
More
Of
A
Projector
That
Would
Project
Up
Notes
And
Then
You
Could
Write
Over
Top
Of
Them
On
A
White
Board
But
Which
Was
Also
Projected
So
You
Weren't
Writing
Up
On
The
Board
You
Writing
In
Front
The
PC
But
It
Wasn't
It
It's
Not
Exactly
The
Same
What's
Cool
About
This
I
Think
Is
That
Because
You're
Doing
The
Notes
This
Way
You
Can
Actually
Save
The
Files
They
Are
Data
And
They're
On
A
Computer
Somewhere
So
I
Don't
Know
If
The
Instructors
Would
Be
Nice
Enough
To
Do
This
But
They're
Taking
The
Notes
For
You
They've
Written
The
Notes
Already
Just
Email
Them
For
Those
Listeners
Who
Are
In
College
Courses
You
Know
That
You'll
Sit
There
In
A
Class
For
An
Hour
And
A
Half
Sometimes
More
And
Write
Non-stop
Copying
Down
Notes
So
This
Would
Be
Just
A
God
Send
For
Something
Like
That
Have
You
Ever
Seen
Anything
Like
This
In
Practice
No
I'm
Still
Used
To
The
Chalk
And
The
Yeah
Very
Old
School
The
Abacus
And
Several
Universities
I've
Been
To
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
Different
Colleges
And
Or
Universities
They
Have
A
Combination
I
Mean
It's
Like
The
Way
Funding
Works
And
Budgeting
And
You
Know
The
Science
Department
Gets
X
Number
Of
Dollars
And
The
Education
Gets
This
Much
And
Social
Sciences
The
Way
They
Split
It
Up
You'll
Find
That
Some
Departments
And
Some
Rooms
Even
Within
The
Department
You'll
Have
One
Room
Down
The
Hall
That
Is
The
Old
School
Chalk
Boards
And
Big
Fat
Erasers
And
Stuff
They
Don't
Even
Have
Funds
To
Buy
Colored
Chalk
Or
Anything
Like
That
To
Color
Coordinate
I
Had
A
Professor
A
Economics
Professor
Who
Would
Bring
In
His
Own
Colored
Chalk
From
Home
Because
He
Loved
To
Be
Able
To
Show
The
Different
Lines
Color
Coordinated
So
That
You
Could
And
It
Really
It
Was
Very
Cool
It
Helped
But
At
The
Same
Time
The
Classroom
One
Or
Two
Doors
Down
Was
A
State
Of
The
Art
Overhead
Projector
With
Computer
Screens
And
Monitors
Spread
To
The
Back
Of
484
Nobody
Wants
To
Go
To
That
Crummy
Ghetto
Ass
Lab
On
The
Other
Side
Of
Campus
That
Has
The
333
In
It
You
Know
So
I
Like
Going
To
The
One
With
The
Old
486
Oh
That's
Cool
Yeah
Those
Are
The
New
Ones
By
The
New
The
Newest
Ones
Are
486
Um
The
School
I
Most
Recently
Attended
Their
Official
Low
End
Supportive
Standard
I
Think
Was
Up
To
4
P
2
450
Or
P
3
450
I'm
Not
Sure
I
Think
That
Was
The
Lowest
Thing
They
Had
On
Campus
So
That's
Not
Too
Awful
Bad
You
Can
Still
Work
With
I
Work
With
Them
In
Here
In
My
Office
Here
In
The
Hat
Cave
At
Home
I
Still
Have
Plenty
Of
Those
So
It's
All
About
Funding
It's
All
About
Having
The
Money
To
Get
It
Done
Here's
Another
Cool
One
Most
Of
These
Things
Are
In
Use
At
Large
Private
Universities
Public
Schools
They
Definitely
Have
Funding
Problems
So
Most
Of
These
You
Find
It
Like
The
Harvards
And
Yales
And
Dartmouth
Was
One
I
Saw
The
Name
On
A
Lot
Dartmouth
Had
A
Lot
Of
This
Stuff
Going
On
The
Second
One
Was
Eduq
Personal
Response
System
Now
That
Is
A
Transmitter
That
Allows
Students
To
Beam
Answers
Back
To
The
Instructor
Sounds
Like
A
Game
Show
To
Me
And
Uses
Infrared
Signals
To
Send
Answers
Back
To
The
Instructor
I
Don't
Know
If
They
Didn't
Go
Into
Detail
About
How
They
Were
Used
Maybe
It
Was
During
The
Class
Lectures
Polls
Or
Something
Like
That
I
Don't
Know
If
They
Are
Actually
Used
For
Exams
But
I
Don't
Know
That
Could
Be
Interesting
But
Infrared
Signals
I
Not
Sure
What
About
The
Hackability
On
Those
Can
You
Put
One
Of
Those
Programmable
Recorders
And
Somehow
I
Don't
Know
What
You
Could
Really
Do
There
But
You
Could
Probably
Get
Well
The
Problem
With
IR
Isn't
It
Line
Of
Sight
Yeah
I
Guess
It
Is
Of
Course
You
Could
Possibly
Get
A
So
For
The
Class
Before
You
That
Takes
The
Test
Record
All
The
Answers
You
Can
Innocently
Leave
It
Up
Front
And
Catch
All
The
Answers
Then
Just
Walk
In
Nonchalant
Oh
I
Left
My
PDA
Here
Let
Me
Pick
It
Up
And
You
Can
Actually
Do
Software
Like
They
Did
On
The
TV
Shows
When
They
Have
Everyone
Vote
For
Your
Favorite
Whatever
You
Can
Have
A chart
Of
All
The
Most
Popular
Answers
For
A
Question
There
You
Go
Yeah
Something
Like
That
I
Think
Is
Good
It
Seems
It
Seems
Like
It's
More
Helpful
To
The
Instructors
Than
It
Is
To
The
Students
So
Yeah
You
Know
The
Instructors
Can
Ask
Questions
And
Get
Poll
Results
And
Stuff
Quicker
But
The
Students
I
Don't
Know
What
It
Really
Saves
Them
Other
Than
The
Energy
Of
Raising
Their
Hand
Yeah
Right
Have
To
Turn
It
Into
A
Reverse
Auction
And
Also
I
Don't
Know
I
Kind
Of
Get
A
Weird
Big
Brother
Feeling
From
It
But
I
Guess
It's
Not
So
Not
Really
I
I'm
Sure
They're
Not
Tied
To
The
Student
I
Want
If
They're
Built
Into
The
Desk
Or
Into
The
Classroom
Or
They
Stay
With
The
Classroom
They're
Probably
Not
Tied
To
The
Student
In
Any
Way
Shape
Or
Form
If
You
Go
To
A
Different
Desk
Or
A
Different
Station
Next
Time
Would
You
Use
A
Different
Device
So
Therefore
It's
Not
You
Know
It's
Used
For
What's
A
Disclaimer
They
Always
Put
On
Some
Of
That
Software
Is
The
Statistics
Will
Be
Kept
As
A
Whole
And
Not
Traced
To
An
Individual
That
Kind
Of
Thing
I
Hope
They're
That
They're
Used
500
Students
Per
Class
Or
Some
Crazy
Number
Well
I
Guess
They
Can
Have
The
Back
Row
Why
Haven't
You
Turned
Any
Your
Work
In
The
Entire
Semester
Yeah
They
Could
Have
I
Guess
Multiple
Receivers
Set
Around
Somehow
In
Like
The
Back
Of
The
Seat
Or
Something
Yeah
Oh
Yeah
That
Could
Be
But
If
That's
The
Case
Why
Go
With
I
Infrared
Why
Not
Just
Put
Buttons
Wired
Down
Underneath
The
Seat
So
We
Just
Press
The
Button
In
Front
Of
Yeah
I
Wondering
Why
They
Wouldn't
Do
Like
An
RF
Thing
Myself
But
Yeah
Well
Again
This
Is
This
Is
You
Know
New
Stuff
They're
Trying
It
Doesn't
Necessarily
Mean
It's
Going
To
Work
Or
It's
The
Best
Idea
It's
Just
New
Stuff
That's
Being
Tried
And
Tested
It
May
Not
Be
May
Not
Spread
I
Also
Have
This
Picture
Of
500
People
In
An
Auditorium
Now
All
Playing
Big
Bucks
You
Know
No
Whammy
Stop
You
Know
Spin
Again
Spin
Again
You
Know
Joker
I
Don't
Know
I
Picture
People
Playing
Game
Shows
Or
Something
Or
Just
Buzzing
The
Teacher
Randomly
Just
To
Annoy
Them
Or
Something
Now
The
Last
Two
That
I
Have
Here
I
Think
Are
The
Coolest
Number
Three
Throw
The
Word
Cisco
In
There
Because
It
You
Know
Commercial
Whatever
They
Have
To
Put
That
Cisco
Name
In
Because
They
Probably
Donated
It
Or
Gave
Them
A
Great
Price
But
This
Is
Well
I
Think
We
Pretty
Much
Know
What
This
Is
Or
We
Can
Guess
It
Allows
Students
To
Make
Free
Long
Distance
Calls
Over
The
Internet
Voice
Over
IP
Of
Course
This
Is
Great
This
Is
Very
Cool
This
Is
Something
That
They
Should
Give
Students
They
Have
Tons
Of
Bandwidth
On
College
Campuses
They
Totally
Have
They
Have
Huge
Backbones
Plenty
Of
Bandwidth
They
Should
Have
Done
This
Years
Ago
If
You
Ask
Me
This
Is
A
Very
Cool
Thing
I
Mean
It
You
Know
With
Vonage
And
Packet
Eight
Which
We
Discussed
Ad
Infinitum
Ad
Infinitum
This
Is
You
Think
Colleges
Would
Have
Done
This
First
And
Then
It
Would
Have
Trickled
Down
To
The
Home
But
In
Actuality
It
Kind
Of
Happened
The
Opposite
Way
Kid
When
You
Are
In
College
Normally
Well
I
Guess
Not
Normally
A
Lot
Of
People
Leave
Home
Leave
The
State
Leave
The
Country
Even
And
To
Have
Long
Distance
Free
Long
Distance
From
Your
College
You
Can
Call
Home
More
Often
You
Can
Call
Friends
You
Can
Call
Friends
In
Other
Colleges
Even
And
Maybe
Work
Together
With
People
That
Are
In
Similar
Fields
Of
Study
Stuff
Like
That
It
Is
A
Huge
I
Mean
That's
A
Huge
Benefit
For
Students
It
Really
Is
Besides
The
Obvious
Silly
You
Can
Call
Home
And
Call
Your
Friends
Back
Home
And
Joke
And
Talk
And
All
That
Kind
Of
Stuff
There's
A
Lot
Of
Great
Stuff
You
Can
Do
With
That
One
Yeah
But
You
Know
They're
Going
To
Tack
On
Two
Or
Three
Hundred
Dollars
A
Semester
For
A
New
Phone
Service
Feed
I
Guess
If
You're
Going
To
Dartmouth
Harvard
And
Yale
And
Those
Ivy
Leagues
You've
Got
Money
To
Burn
Anyway
That's
True
Or
You're
On
A
Free
Ride
One
Of
The
Two
So
Yeah
They
They'll
Make
It
Up
Somewhere
That's
What
Universities
Do
They'll
Get
It
From
You
Somewhere
They'll
Call
It
You
Know
Your
University
Starts
Up
A
Football
Program
For
Example
And
All
Of
A
Sudden
Now
You've
Got
An
Athletics
Fee
Built
Into
Your
Tuition
You
Know
Even
If
You
Don't
Go
To
Any
Of
The
Games
Or
Have
Any
Interest
In
The
Team
What
So
You're
Still
Paying
That
Twenty
Dollars
A
Month
Each
Student
Pays
No
Matter
What
Is
Part
Of
Their
Part
Of
Their
Tuition
But
That's
Another
Show
Now
The
Fourth
One
This
Is
My
Favorite
This
Is
My
Favorite
I
Actually
Suggest
This
Idea
At
My
Old
Job
We
Would
Be
Scattered
Around
The
Building
A
Lot
Back
In
The
Computer
Room
Back
In
The
Tape
Room
And
Trying
To
Get
In
Touch
With
Each
Other
Chasing
Each
Other
Down
And
I
Suggest
This
A
Long
Time
Ago
Half
Joking
Half
Serious
Well
This
Is
Actually
Being
Used
Now
It's
Called
Vocera
Communications
Wifi
Badges
And
These
Are
Clip
On
Badges
That
Connect
To
The
Wifi
Network
With
Voice
Over
IP
Support
Which
Is
A
I
Didn't
Think
About
That
Back
In
The
Day
But
That's
Definitely
A
Cool
Thing
To
Allow
Hands
Free
Calling
Now
The
First
Two
Words
That
Must
Jump
Mind
What
What's
The
First
When I
Describe
That
What's
The
First
Thing
You
Think
Of
Pizza
What's
That
No
Clue
Star
Trek
Oh
The
Little
Communicator
Badges
Yeah
I
Would
Be
The
Most
Annoying
Person
With
One
Of
These
Things
I
Be
Walking
Around
Going
Meet
Me
At
The
Bridge
Of
Starship
Anderson
Hall
You
Know
Make
It
So
Yeah
Make
It
So
Mute
We
Are
Running
Engage
Warp
Make
It
So
Number
Two
Yeah
Obviously
This
Only
Works
Over
In
Wi-Fi
Range
So
If
You've
Got
A
Lot
Of
Good
Wi-Fi
Coverage
If
You're
On
A
University
That
Has
Full
Coverage
Of
The
Campus
With
Wi-Fi
Then
It's
Great
And
Again
Combining
It
With
The
Voice
Over
IP
Especially
That
Free
Voice
Over
IP
We
Mentioned
Earlier
You
Could
Be
Sitting
In
A
Study
Hall
Or
Well
You
Shouldn't
Be
Talking
In
A
Study
Hall
Or
Library
But
You
Could
Be
Sitting
Outside
Of
The
Library
In
The
Parking
Lot
Anywhere
On
Campus
And
Talking
Long
Distance
With
Your
Grandmother
Back
In
Whatever
Through
A
Voice
Badge
You
Know
That
Is
Cool
That
Is
Straight
Out
Of
Star
Trek
I
Want
That
I
Want
That
At
My
University
I
Want
To
Go
To
Somebody
Can
If
Anybody
Has
By
The
Way
Anybody
Who
Is
Listening
Who
Has
Experienced
With
These
Or
Has
Seen
These
Excuse
Me
Or
Uses
These
In
Their
Classroom
Email
Us
Radio
At
Ben
Rev
Dot
Com
And
Let
Us
Know
Because
I'd
Love
To
Hear
Are
These
Things
Useful
Is
This
Something
You
Like
Or
Don't
Like
So
You
Know
Let
Me
Know
If
You
Have
Any
Experience
With
This
Kind
Of
Stuff
Because
Some
Of
I
Think
Actually
All
Of
Those
I
Think
Are
Good
Some
Better
Than
Others
But
They're
All
Good
Ideas
I
Think
I'm
Sure
There's
Some
Bad
Things
That
Have
Been
Tried
Too
So
Speaking
Of
Voice
Over
IP
I'm
Going
To
Shift
Into
Another
Topic
Here
This
Is
You
Know
Between
Voice
Over
IP
Becoming
Popular
And
Taking
Over
A
Huge
Revolution
In
Voice
Over
IP
Coming
I
Can
Feel
It
And
The
Obvious
Cell
Phone
Boom
That's
Happened
Over
The
Last
Five
Ten
Years
You
Know
Just
Growing
Exponentially
I
Got
A
Memo
Earlier
This
Week
And
First
Of
All
Dual
Parallel
If
You're
Listening
You
Might
Want
To
Turn
The
Speakers
Down
You
Might
Want
To
Walk
Away
For
A
Few
Minutes
You
Might
Want
To
Cover
Your
Ears
Because
I
Got
Bad
It's
Dated
December
Eighteenth
I
Just
Got
It
Last
Week
Says
As
Of
December
Thirty
First
Bell
South
Which
Is
The
Southeast
United
States
Bell
South
Will
No
Longer
Provide
Pay
Phone
Service
To
Its
Customers
Wow
That's
It
No
More
Pay
Phone
Service
From
Bell
South
Says
At
This
Time
It
Appears
That
Our
New
Pay
Phone
Provider
Say
That
Ten
Times
Fast
That
Our
New
Pay
Phone
Provider
Will
Be
First
American
Telephone
Their
Rate
Of
$65
A
Month
Was
The
Lowest
Available
So
There
Will
Still
Be
Some
But
They
Are
All
Cocots
Now
They
Are
All
Going
To
Be
Owned
By
Different
Companies
And
Bell
South
Completely
Getting
Out
Of
The
Pay
Phone
Business
And
Cocots
Are
Only
Going
To
Operate
Pay
Phones
That
Make
Money
So
Pay
Phones
Continue
To
Die
They
Are
Just
A
Dying
Breed
Bell
South
Sucks
Anyway
Just
To
Throw
That
In
There
I
Have
To
Get
That
They
Still
Suck
They
Always
Suck
They
Always
Will
Suck
But
They're
Not
Making
Any
Money
Off
Of
A
Lot
Of
These
Pay
Phones
And
They're
Getting
Sick
Of
It
They're
Getting
Out
Of
The
Business
Completely
All
Switching
To
Cocots
Like
I
Said
And
Like
I
Mention
I
Was
Reading
From
The
Memo
Earlier
$65
A
Month
Is
What
It
Cost
A
Client
To
Get
A
Pay
Phone
Now
From
This
Particular
Cocot
Now
That
May
Be
Because
We're
A
Large
Organization
And
That's
Probably
A
Better
Rate
I
Don't
Know
How
Much
It
Would
Cost
I'm
Sure
You
Couldn't
Get
One
In
Your
Home
For
That
Price
Or
Something
Like
That
But
65
A
Month
Is
What
It
Cost
Us
To
Have
A
Pay
Phone
To
Make
It
Available
So
We
Would
Have
To
Pay
That
Much
For
It
And
The
Phone
Company
Has
To
Get
Some
Money
And
Make
Some
Money
Off
Of
It
Which
Is
Why
They're
Passing
That
65
Bucks
Off
On
To
Get
It
For
What
They
The
Way
They
Justify
It
Is
For
Placing
And
Maintaining
The
Hardware
You
Know
The
Maintenance
And
The
Networking
And
The
Switching
And
All
That
Kind
Of
Stuff
Back
Now
See
That's
Already
There
To
Me
That's
A
Sunk
What
We
Refer
To
In
Business
As
A
Sunk
Cost
It's
Already
Paid
For
It's
Already
Done
It's
Already
In
Place
So
I
Don't
Particularly
Agree
With
The
Logic
Behind
That
But
That's
The
Way
They
Think
So
At
My
Particular
Organization
We
Had
30
Plus
Pay
Phones
Exact
Number
But
I
Heard
That
Only
Three
Of
Them
Are
Going
To
Stick
Around
So
We
Dropped
From
30
Over
30
Pay
Phones
To
Three
So
I
Hate
To
Say
It
But
I'm
Afraid
That
The
Pay
Phone
Is
I'm
Gonna
I
Have
To
Officially
Say
I
Have
To
Say
That
It's
Officially
Endangered
In
My
Book
I
Think
The
Pay
Phone
Is
An
Endangered
Species
Dying
Out
Is
It
A
Bad
Sign
Well
See
I
Lean
More
Towards
The
Hacking
Side
Of
Things
I'm
Not
A
Big
Freak
But
I
Know
Duel
Is
Just
Going
To
Be
Devast
He's
Going
To
Be
So
Mad
He's
Talked
About
On
The
Show
Before
How
Pay
Phones
Are
Disappearing
And
I
Mean
I
Like
Pay
Phones
They're
Fun
They're
Handy
Sometimes
They're
You
Know
They
Have
A
Use
Before
That
If
It
Wasn't
For
Pay
Phones
He
Wouldn't
Have
Gotten
Into
Freaking
You
Know
That's
How
He
Got
Into
Freaking
That's
How
A
Lot
Of
Freaks
Get
Into
Freaking
That's
What
Their
Introduction
Is
So
I
Guess
It's
Scary
In
That
Aspect
And
Some
People
Have
A
Closer
Relationship
Or
Love
For
Them
Than
Maybe
You
Or
I
Do
Or
Appreciation
For
Them
So
I
Yeah
I
Think
It's
A
Bad
Thing
I
Think
It's
A
Bad
Thing
At
The
Same
Time
I
Personally
From
A
Very
Personal
Level
Don't
Send
The
Hate
Mail
For
Saying
This
But
If
They
Replace
The
Pay
Phone
With
Some
Kind
Of
Kiosk
I
Would
Be
Happier
With
The
Kiosk
Myself
I
Would
Love
To
Sit
There
And
Hack
Away
At
The
Kiosk
Instead
Of
The
Pay
Phone
But
I
Don't
Know
How
Much
Longer
I
Don't
Know
How
Many
More
Years
The
Pay
Phone
Has
I
Really
Don't
There's
Always
Going
To
Be
Pay
Phones
In
Airports
And
Stuff
Like
That
They're
Not
Going
Anywhere
They're
Not
Going
Away
High
Big
Traffic
Areas
They're
Always
Going
To
Be
There
Because
They
Make
Money
You
Know
All
The
Businessmen
Coming
In
On
Their
Planes
Even
Them
They
Still
So
Many
Of
Them
Have
Gone
To
Cell
Phones
And
Stuff
Too
But
They
Do
Still
Make
Money
Now
We've
Got
Some
Time
Left
To
Hammer
Through
This
Is
A
New
Temporary
Yet
Recurring
Segment
This
Is
From
Wired
Magazine
Now
They
Have
A
Segment
This
Is
From
The
January
Issue
Yes
January
2004
Issue
Welcome
To
2004
By
The
Way
Hi
Thanks
Happy
New Year
To
All
Of
Our
Listeners
This
Is
101
Ways
To
Save
The
Internet
It's
By
Paul
Boutin
B-O-U-T-I-N
It's
Called
101
Ways
To
Save
The
Internet
Now
I
Wanted
To
Go
Through
Some
Of
These
I'm
Not
Going
To
Through
All
101
But
I
Thought
Maybe
We
Could
Do
A
Few
Next
Week
And
Week
After
A
Few
At
The
End
Of
Show
Because
There
Are
Some
Interesting
Things
On
Here
And
Stuff
That
We
Have
Said
On
The
Show
Many
Times
And
We've
Been
Saying
Not
Only
Recently
But
Over
The
Past
Year
Two
Years
Even
Further
Back
So
There's
Some
Stuff
In
Here
That
I
Found
Interesting
And
I
Thought
We'd
Just
Shoot
Through
Them
We
Don't
Have
To
Spend
A
Time
On
Any
Of
Them
Unless
We
You
Know
If
Feel
Like
Discussing
It
But
I
Thought
I'd
Read
A
Couple
Of
These
And
Please
Interrupt
Me
If
You
Want
To
Add
Something
To
Them
Or
If
You
Want
To
Say
I
Agree
I
Disagree
Or
Something
Like
That
Is
That
Cool
I
Can
Cur
Okay
Let's
Pound
Through
These
Quickly
Because
Like
I
Says
101
Maybe
We
Can
Do
25
Per
Episode
So
Let
Me
Shoot
Through
These
Let's
See
Number
One
Basically
They'll
Give
Me
A
One
Sentence
Definition
And
Then
Like
A
Little
Two
Sentence
Blurb
Describing
It
I'm
Just
Going
To
Read
The
Topic
Number
One
Is
To
Unleash
Vigilante
Justice
On
Spammers
Now
I
Know
That
Sounds
Great
And
I
Would
Love
To
Do
That
But
I
Don
Know
Is
That
The
Right
Thing
Is
That
Is
That
Something
To
Save
The
Internet
Is
That
Something
We
Should
Do
Well
I
Think
If
You
Could
You
Know
Actually
Pinpoint
Who
The
Spammers
Were
That
Be
One
Thing
Right
The
Problem
With
Vigilante
Justice
Is
It
Gets
Out
Of
Hand
Real
Quick
Yeah
And
So
You
Know
The
Poor
Schmuck
Who's
Got
His
Poor
Little
SMTP
Relay
Who
Didn't
Know
About
It
All
Of
A
Sudden
Gets
Flogged
Right
But
I
Think
Again
If
Implemented
Correctly
Hell
Yeah
I
Think
It
Would
Stop
People
Real
Fast
Yeah
And
That's
A
Good
Point
I
Said
I
Wasn't
Going
To
Read
The
Blur
But
It
Does
Say
In
The
Blur
One
Activist
Proposed
Filters
That
Launched
Distributed
Denial
Of
Service
Attacks
Back
At
Spammers
Great
Just
Make
Sure
We
Have
The
Right
Addresses
First
Which
Is
Exactly
What
You
Said
Very
Good
Point
Number
Two
This
Is
One
Of
My
Favorites
On
The
Whole
List
Slash
Song
Prices
Charge
29
Cents
Per
Download
You'll
Make
It
Up
In
Volume
Definitely
That's
Beautiful
There's
Nothing
Else
To
Say
About
That's
Poetic
That's
Beautiful
I
Would
Pay
29
Cents
For
A
Song
And
I
Would
Buy
Every
Song
I've
Ever
Wanted
That's
A
Reasonable
Fair
Price
And
I
Would
Have
A
Completely
Full
Of
All
Of
My
Favorite
Music
And
I
Would
Pay
For
It
I
Think
That's
Absolutely
Valid
And
Fair
Number
Three
Four
Words
It
Says
Quit
Already
Jack
Valenti
There's
Nothing
To
Add
To
That
I
Agree
Get
Out
Get
Out
This
One
I'm
Going
To
Read
All
Of
These
Even
Though
I
Don't
Necessarily
I
Don't
Want
To
Go
Political
But
This
One
Says
Appoint
Larry
Lessig
To
The
Supreme
Court
Is
He
A
Democrat
Or
Republican
Who
Cares
Laws
Governing
Information
Flow
Are
The
New
Affirmative
Action
Abortion
And
Gun
Control
Rolled
Into
One
I
Don't
Know
What
To
Say
About
That
I
Like
The
Is
He
Democrat
Republican
Who
Cares
Well
Yeah
Who
Cares
Get
The
Job
Done
That's
What
I
Care
About
So
Number
Five
I
Like
This
Create
The
Quote
All
In
One
Inbox
Email
Phone
Calls
Instant
Messages
All
In
One
Single
App
That
Would
Be
Nice
I
Think
That
Would
Be
Very
Cool
I
Think
It
Would
Be
Very
Cool
And
I
Know
People
Aren't
Going to
Like
Me
Saying
This
But
The
Latest
Version
Of
Outlook
Moved
In
That
Direction
And
Embedded
What
Is
It
MSN
Messenger
Or
Windows
Messenger
Or
Whatever
The
Difference
Of
The
Two
Are
Yeah
They've
Had
That
Actually
Since
I
Think
When
Exchange
2000
Came
Out
Because
They
Actually
Incorporated
Possibly
Before
Exchange
2000
Parts
XMessenger
Into
A
Corporate
Wide
Messaging
System
So
Yeah
I
Think
That
Could
Be
Perfectly
Handy
This
One
I
Don't
Know
How
Reasonable
It
Is
Or
How
Realistic
It
Is
But
It's
Triple
Our
Cable
Modem
Speed
Well
Yeah
I
Guess
We
Y'all
Want
Hell
Why
Stop
It
Tripling
It
Damn
You
People
Are
Greed
Yeah
Right
Actually
Comcast
Just doubled
Hours
Up to
3
Megabits
So
I
Have
Heard
And
I
Might
Have
An
Announcement
About
That
Next
Week
We
Will
See
About
That
But
For
The
Most
Part
It
Might
Be
Twice
As
Fast
But
I
Mean
My
Porn
Comes
At
The
Same
Speed
Yeah
Right
It
Doesn't
Display
Any
Faster
Turn
Off
The
Golf
Channel
And
UPN
And
Use
That
Bandwidth
For
The
Extra
Motor
Speed
I'm
Sure
There's
Some
Golf
Enthusiasts
That
Will
Disagree
With
That
Number
Seven
Demand
Truth
In
Advertising
For
Software
Updates
Oh
Yeah
I
Think
Come
On
Absolutely
I
Agree
I
Just
Don't
Think
It
Is
Going
To
Happen
Well
True
Number
Eight
Ooh
This
Are
Terrorists
Uh
Um
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
About
That
I'm
Not
Sure
No
I
Can't
Agree
With
That
One
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
They're
Terror
Well
That's
I
Think
They're
Coming
Along
The
Same
Lines
As
Declaring
Hackers
Or
Yeah
That's
Penetration
People
As
Terrorists
That's
Dangerously
Close
Home
Yeah
What
They're
Doing
Is
I
Would
Consider
Morally
Wrong
Right
I
Don't
Think
It's
An
Act
Of
Terrorism
They're
Not
Hurting
Anyone
Well
And
You
Know
What
In
Their
Defense
They
Don't
A
Lot
Of
Them
Don't
See
A
Lot
Of
Them
Know
They're
Morally
Wrong
And
They
Just
Do
It
Anyway
But
Some
Of
Them
Don't
Think
They're
Morally
Wrong
I
Mean
There
Is
Something
To
Be
Said
And
We're
Not
Going
To
Get
Into
A
Debate
But
There
Is
Something
To
Be
Said
About
Free
Speech
They
Do
Have
Some
Rights
To
Free
Speech
And
Is
Stopping
Spam
You know
There's
A
Gray
Area
There
Which
That
Could
Be
A
Very
Long
Full
Show
Debate
So
I
Think
We'll
Move
On
They
Declaring
Spammers
As
Terrorists
Yeah
We're
Going
To
Put
That
In
If
That
Not
Too
Good
Idea
Category
What's
That
I've
Been
Wondering
This
For
A
While
What's
The
Point
I
Mean
How
Many
People
Actually
Click
On
The
Links
That
You
Receive
In
An
Email
Now
How
Many
People
Look
At
The
Email
Well
You
Know
Honestly
They
Must
Be
I
Mean
They
Really
People
Are
Clicking
Through
Them
It
Absolutely
Is
A
Fact
At
What
Ratio
I
Don't
Know
We
Can
Do
Some
Research
And
Find
Out
But
Yes
That
Is
The
Reason
That
It
Perpetuates
Is
Because
It
Does
Work
There
Are
People
Out
There
That
Click
On
Them
If
There
Weren't
They
Would
Stop
Doing
It
And
Secondly
It's
Not
Always
About
The
Click
Through
Even
Though
They
Make
It
Sound
Like
That
And
They
Want
The
People
To
Click
Through
To
The
Site
And
Whatever
Anybody
Who
I
Worked
For
Regularly
I
Missed
That
Job
Actually
I
Got
To
See
All
The
Shows
Before
They
Were
Announced
And
I
Got
To
See
All
The
Money
That
Went
Through
People
Registered
Registering
Commercials
For
Shows
And
The
Analysis
They
Did
For
Them
And
It's
All
About
It
May
Not
Necessarily
Be
About
Click
Through
It's
About
Face
Time
And
Eye
Time
They
Don't
Have
To
Click
On
It
But
If
They
Just
See
It
All
They
Have
To
Do
Sometimes
Is
Just
See
It
In
Front
Of
Them
Even
If
It's
For
A
Second
While
They
Delete
It
They
Still
Got
Something
Accomplished
They
Still
Planted
A
Seed
In
Your
Head
So
A lot
Of
Times
It's
Just
About
Getting
It
In
Front
Of
The
User
So
It
Sucks
But
It's
Fact
It's
Fact
Oh
Let's
See
Where
Was
I
Number
Nine
Hands
Off
Internet
Phone
Calls
Just
Because
The
Creaky
Old
Phone
System
Was
Regulated
To
Death
Doesn't
Mean
Voice
Over
IP
Should
Suffer
The
Same
Fate
What
Do
You
Think
About
That
Oh
Come
On
You
Know
What
I'm
Going to
Say
To
That
Well
Say
It
Hell
Yes
Don't
Touch
It
Well
What
About
Okay
Is
There
Alright
I'll
Play
Devil's
Advocate
Here
I
Actually
I
Don
Know
If
I
Being Devil's
Advocate
Or
Truth
Let's
Discuss
This
What
About
The
Requirement
Of
Support
For
9-1-1
That
I
Agree
With
Especially
Because
I
Mean
Obviously
We're
Moving
More
And
More
Toward
IP
Telephony
I
Mean
Every
Day
So
Eventually
I
Mean
And
I
Know
People
Are
Going
To
Attempt
To
Flog
Me
For
This
But
I
Think
Eventually
Copper
Is
Not
Obviously
Copper
Completely
But
Copper
Phone
Systems
are going to be gone.
I mean, that seems to be the direction we're moving in eventually.
I'm not saying it's going to be next year.
I'm not going to say it's in the next 10 years, but eventually.
And so obviously, if we completely get rid of these copper lines
or copper phone systems, and you have IP telephony,
if they're not regulating at least 911, then who knows?
Right.
So there might be some things that would be useful,
but the majority of them over-regulated.
I agree completely.
I think the taxing is the biggest thing for me.
You know, they're wanting to start charging for IP telephony stuff.
I mean, these are companies' private networks.
Well, wait a minute.
Be careful when you say taxing.
Taxing, we're not going to get away from.
Right.
Fees.
Fees that the government's forcing upon the companies for regulation.
Right.
Which they are in turn passing on to us in the form of fees.
Right.
So they're getting taxed, but they're passing them on to us
and disguising it under the word fee.
Right.
So, yes.
Oh, number 10.
Free the handsets.
What they mean by that is we should be able to buy any cell phone
and match it with any service plan.
I definitely agree with that,
considering I've been wanting a sidekick for the last six months
and can't get it until my singular contract is up.
So, yes.
Yep.
I think that is a good thing.
I don't know how realistic it is, but I don't see why not.
I think the cell phone manufacturers should,
instead of signing these contracts and exclusivity deals with people,
I would open up the market for everybody.
Let the best cell phone win.
You know, people are going to buy the phone that works the best,
and they're not limited by what they can use with their particular provider of choice.
And the same thing with the plans.
Number 11.
Larry Flint, build a porn browser.
Well, and that's kind of funny, but let me read the point that they put under it.
It says, it should cover our tracks coming and going.
So, what they mean by this is actually a privacy thing.
Covering your tracks so that people can't trace you, track you, and get into your business.
Protect your privacy and let you surf porn in peace.
It's not so much to ask.
Hey, if anybody wants to start an encrypted HTTP proxy service with me, hey, I'm all in.
Yeah, and you know, they make this as a joke for porn, but it is a privacy issue.
I would love to have a browser that I can anonymously surf
and not worry about people, you know, following and tracking what I've been doing.
Oh, definitely.
I mean, I'm paranoid because I have Comcast,
and they're kind of known for a big brother type attitude at times.
Yep, yep.
I'm not going to look at anything that's, you know, but...
No, but I mean, it's the principle.
Right.
It's the principle, it really is.
Number 12, make email addresses portable.
And it's never going to happen.
No, I don't think that would catch on quite like the number portability thing has.
No.
But even that is kind of funny.
Yeah, logistically, it's not possible.
It's not...
I mean, anything's possible, but logistically, it's a nightmare.
Yeah, the DNS information would be...
Yeah.
I mean, I don't even know how you would keep track of that.
Everybody...
Have a HTTP server that replied with, user has moved to this address.
Or some type of auto-forwarding...
Right.
...of everybody's mail.
Well, but you know how long that would be before it suddenly became...
There would be so much traffic.
Oh, my gosh.
You know what?
No, it's just not logically feasible.
Number 13, don't let the Pentagon hog the airwaves.
The DOD doesn't need that many civilian-free radio frequencies to do its job.
I'm sure there are a lot of the hammers out there, the hammies that will say, free the airwaves.
I think that goes without saying.
I think I'm going to agree with that.
But I don't...
I don't know...
Regulations I don't agree with, and that's one of them.
Exactly.
Overregulation is the biggest problem in this country, but I won't go there.
And frankly, though, I'm going to admit that I don't...
I'm not educated enough in this to know specifically...
I don't know how many they have, if they have an overabundance or a reasonable amount.
I don't know.
If they do, assuming that they do from this slant of this, you know, I'd say, then, yeah, of course.
Free the airwaves.
Give them to the people.
Jeez, owning the airwaves?
I've never gotten that.
Ugh.
Anyway, 14.
Whoa, this is a no-brainer.
Dump the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
Oh, yeah.
We'll leave it alone.
15.
Stop the U.S. Patent Office before they patent the hyperlink.
Uh-oh, too late.
Stop the U.S. Patent Office before they allow anything to be done.
Yeah, and that's a redundant joke because right underneath it says, oops, too late.
As those of listeners who may or may not know, someone claims to have invented and patented the hyperlink.
They were issued a patent for something called a hyperlink, and that is a link to click on something as a shortcut to another site.
Well, the links are going.
Next week, I'm actually applying for a patent for the missionary position.
Yeah, I'm going to patent the process of breathing in and out.
Number 16, simplify web publishing.
Why can't we post files from our desktop to a website in one drag-and-drop move?
I don't know about that.
Every time we've seen this type of thing, front-page extensions, et cetera, et cetera, it's never been...
It's not that easy.
Pure, easy, just, I don't know.
It would be easy for a user, but it's just not that easy.
You can't simplify something that's not that simple.
Right.
So, idealistically, sure, it'd be great, but no, not quite going to happen.
There could be some very simplified web publishing tools to do that, but they wouldn't be as feature-filled,
and you wouldn't be able to do everything you wanted to do with them.
Well, actually, I don't know if I agree with that.
But I think any of the major web development programs, if they just would take it from
a security standpoint for once, rather than simplification, you know?
Well, you can't have one with...
You have to work them both together, you know?
Yeah.
But, I mean, like, using simple, like, Secure Shell's SFTP instead of FTP or some other
publishing form, you know, that would be...
That would make everything great, to add that to your publish here button or whatever,
but, oh, well, such is life.
Yep.
Uh, 17, let a thousand Wi-Fis bloom.
What they mean by that is, let the Wi-Fi spectrum begin.
Let the canvas across the world of Wi-Fi networks happen.
Constant coverage everywhere all the time.
Beautiful idea.
Realistically, not going to happen.
No.
Beautiful idea.
At least in metropolitan major cities, I wish it could happen.
It should happen, but...
And I think it's possible, but not feasible.
The cities themselves could use...
Well, never mind.
I'm not even going to say that.
The cities themselves should re-divert funds and try to make something like this happen.
Uh, number 18.
This is an interesting one.
I think I agree with, but...
18.
Build a .sex, .sex, red light district.
.xXX.
Yep.
And I thought that was discussed before.
Whatever happened, I guess it didn't make it?
Yeah, me, but...
I mean, I think the reason why they were discussing it is simplification of things like, uh, uh, HTTP filters.
You know, obviously, well, if it's a .sex or .whatever, don't let it through, but that'll never happen.
Right.
Unless somebody tries to regulate that, too, saying that, you know, you'll be fined or whatever, but...
Right.
Well, you know, there are all these Surf Nanny and Surf Watch and all that kind of stuff that are trying to filter out sites, and filter out sites like mine sometimes, an old-school freak.
Well, the problem is, though, with regulation on that scale, it's a worldwide issue.
And so you're never going to have...
I mean, even if the organizations that cover, you know, the World Wide Web, you know, they're never going to be able to necessarily force porn sites into a certain domain name.
Oh, no, well, it would be voluntary, and those ones that volunteered to go into the .sex would be filtered out from the nanny filters and stuff.
And from a legal standpoint, I think a lot of them might actually do that voluntarily because of the legality issue.
And Verify would be right there.
Yeah, exactly. Absolutely.
Number 19, make privacy a personal asset, a law that prevents firms from consolidating all customer information after a merger.
I talked about this a few episodes back, too, about how companies buy each other up or buy each other's database and consider themselves, quote,
partners or a business relationship that allows them to share your information with a partner company.
So, making privacy a personal asset, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Don't share my information.
Matter of fact, don't keep my information at all.
When I go shopping, like, for example, some of the stuff I've been purchasing lately has come from a site called e-tronics.com,
and I don't mind giving that URL out.
Uh-oh.
Did I drop Voodoo Hal?
Are you there?
If you'd like to make a call, please hang up and try again.
If you need help, hang up and then dial your operator.
All right.
Well, I'm going to let that go.
We're going to keep right on recording.
I don't know if Hal's going to call me back, but I'm going to keep going.
Privacy a personal asset, I absolutely agree with that.
Don't keep my information at all.
The site e-tronics.com, where I bought some stuff lately, they have an option on their checkout page where you can purchase information.
You can purchase something without signing up for an account.
You can either sign up.
Most places try to force you to sign up when you want to check out and order something.
And with e-tronics, they give you an option of just checking out without signing up.
So, yes, you give them a name and address to them to ship to, your information, et cetera, for them billing.
And they probably do keep it.
But at least they don't put me on some list and constantly spam me and all that kind of stuff.
It's a one-shot transaction for the most part.
So I think that's a cool thing.
And maybe Voodoo Hal was hanging up there, got disconnected.
Maybe he knew it was the end of the show time.
So that was my timer going off.
That was number 19.
I'm going to hit number 20.
And stop with that, I guess.
Number 20 is roll out GAP for Geeks, G-A-A-P, which is Generally Accepted Accounting Principles.
Now, anybody, business majors would already know that.
But GAP, the term G-A-A-P, is not a very common term.
Generally Accepted Accounting Principles for Geeks.
And their definition just says, or the little blurb says,
Just as with accounting, create an industry standard for networking security.
Don't forget the penalties for companies that don't comply.
Now, I think a lot of the listeners, we all know that companies are very lax on security.
They do very poor on security.
Holding them to an official rule GAP is an accepted standard within the accounting community.
It's not a government-regulated thing, so to speak.
Like, it's more of a voluntary regulation or an industry regulation.
So having something like that for network security that anybody who wants to set up an ISP,
or anybody that wants to set up a website, etc., they have to meet these set standards,
will make a very secure internet.
Or at least it will make steps, leaps, and bounds towards an internet.
And let's see if this is Voodoo Howell calling back.
Voodoo Howell Hotline.
I heard all that.
The phone just died.
No, that's okay.
We went right on without you.
And actually, you got perfect timing.
What I did is I'll back up and redo the 20th one.
It was Roll Out GAP for Geeks.
Now, I don't know if you're a business major, but GAP, G-A-A-P,
which is Generally Accepted Accounting Principles.
And it's an industry standard in accounting, which, by the way, I hate,
that it's an industry standard that all accountants have to standardize the way they do things
and have to fit certain rules.
What they're suggesting with this is that the same industry standard,
they should create a similar industry standard for network security.
Anybody that wants to set up a website or an ISP or something like that,
they have to meet industry standards for security, minimum standards to operate.
I think it's a good idea, well-founded.
I don't know how effective it would be, but making ISPs update every X number of days
and penalize them if they don't do that.
I definitely agree, but I think it's more idealistic than anything else.
Right, and a lot of these things are.
But you know what?
The more we talk about them and present them, hopefully they will come to fruition maybe.
Anyway, I'm going to stop with 20.
I was hoping to get 25, but we'll stop with 20 and cover some more next week.
Perfect timing.
You call back to wrap up the show here.
Let's see.
I'm going to make a note here.
We stopped at 20.
And we'll touch the rest next week.
You know what?
I also want to talk next week, if you can make it, if you're available next week, to talk about the GPL.
Sure.
Does that sound?
Would you be up for that?
Definitely.
Okay, yeah, I definitely, because we talked about, I did a little mini-review last week on that Sun Java desktop system,
and you and I discussed it offline and the effects and the relationship with the GPL on that.
So I think that could make an interesting topic, and we'll continue some of this list and all kinds of other things.
Well, we, this was, I don't know, am I, is it just me, or did we just blow through a lot of good information on this show?
Definitely.
I think we covered a lot of good stuff.
I think this was a great, I think this was one of the best episodes, if not the best episode, we covered a lot of stuff.
Shout-outs.
You're just back in time.
Why don't you, you got any shout-outs you want to give?
Well, I missed this.
I got Michael Jackson on the PCCPR.
Oh, you're not, no.
You're not shouting out Michael Jackson.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I missed David Hasselhoff.
There you go.
Oh, no.
Wait a minute, the music or the acting?
Shout-out to everybody on the forums.
That's pretty much it.
And me, I've got a weird shout-out for you.
At my 2600 meeting, which of course takes place in a mall, 2600 meetings are in the food courts and malls, public area.
Everything's a cookie store, right?
We're in the food court at the mall.
Everything's a cookie store.
Or, I don't know what it's, I call it that.
I don't know what it's called.
Everything's a cookie.
How hard is it?
It's an everything's a cookie store.
So, there's a young lady that's there.
I see her every month.
I go over to her.
She sits back behind there, obviously bored to tears.
You know, a customer comes up occasionally.
I've been there.
I've done, you know, I know what it's like.
So, when I go over there, I'll just sit and chat with her and talk to her sometimes when I'm walking out, something like that.
Just kind of flirt with her, be nice to her, just, you know, make her laugh, stuff like that.
Kind of essay my way, social engineer my way, and a couple free cookies.
So, my shout outs go to her.
And people like her.
People out there that are, you know, you gotta, you gotta make money.
You gotta get a car.
You gotta get out into the world.
You know, you gotta get computers.
We take for granted sometimes that we have a couple systems in our house.
And I know you have hooked people up with systems before that you had spares.
And, you know, people in the forums, you know, they need cables.
I offered, you know, if you need cables, I can hook that up for you and stuff like that.
But, giving back and sharing, because we've been there.
At least I've been there, and I'm pretty sure you've been there.
Right.
You know, so, giving back, being nice to people, helping out when you can.
It goes a long, long, long way.
Not only in social engineering, but in life.
Well, I would like to say I want to resubmit my vote for the biggest pimp on the forums.
It's not going to think.
Because I got some free cookies.
Exactly.
Yeah, right, man.
And I, something that rhymes with cookie.
No, no, no.
I made it through the whole show without going there.
Oh, man.
All right.
And I, yeah.
Give shout-out to her.
I can give shout-out to David Hasselhoff.
Yeah, there you go.
And back again, distributed team.
Everybody on the distributed team, top to bottom.
Shout-outs to them.
And I love, I go out there and check it out almost every day, every couple days anyway,
to see how we're doing.
I think it's fun.
I love watching it.
It's coming along great.
And, dude, we're right up there, man.
We're right up there with some of the biggest groups out there.
So, that's it for me.
You know how to get in touch with us.
Radio at BinRev.com.
If you've got any kind of general feedback, questions, you want us to talk about something,
you want us to shut up about something, email us, let us know.
And, like you mentioned before, if you can, if you've got some suggestions or some time
or some, something to offer for our Root Wars project, by all means, contact Voodoo Howell.
You want to give him your emails again?
All right.
At VoodooHowell at BinRev.com or VoodooHowell at MojoNetworks.net.
By all means, follow up with him on that.
And, we're going to close tonight.
This is a song that I stumbled across.
It's an RIAA phone call.
It's a song.
And, I think, I hope I'm crediting the person with this right.
I found it, and it was listed under the name John Hargrave.
So, I'm going to close with that.
This was a call to the RIAA, which broke into some music, broke into a song.
So, I'm going to close with that.
And, that's going to do it, episode 27, in the books.
So, all the listeners, we will see you next week.
Same hack time.
Same hack channel.
Recording Industry Association of America.
Hello?
Well, I recollect the days when music was free.
You could tape from the radio, burn the CD.
Now, the RIAA wants to know about me.
My address, my number, my ISP.
Yo, bitches, and we've still got privacy.
Why, the president be letting you spy on me.
How many tricks are you going to be letting you try on me?
Trying to be spying on my MP3s.
But, you protect your corporate privacy.
Keep your phone number hidden from the bourgeoisie.
Your customers have to play hide and seek.
So, here's the number to call if you disagree.
Why is the RIAA starting litigation?
The cops should be looking for the real perpetrations.
The killers, the racists, the rapists.
Sit and fucking with us for safe into a hard mess.
Raise your middle finger if you feel me, low.
These fucking subpoenas are a fucking joke.
Leave us alone and throw us alone.
Like I did with your mom that time at your home.
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
Even if you're giving it away for free.
So, join us in the 21st century.
Where we find the new songs on MP3s.
And raise the new technology.
Frogster, Katara, and P2P.
So, call this number now and help them see.
And if you call from work, you call it free.
7-7-5-0-1-0-1
2-0-2
7-7-5-0-1-0-1
2-0-2 is the area code
And we're dialing
7-7-5 and then we be smiling
A 1-1-1-1-Kerry Sherman
Well, isn't this fun?
It's dunk.com
You know they've never been fair to the band
Now the RIAA takes a stand
Can't believe we're getting preached to by the man
So what's the plan, Sam?
I've got a short attention span
Well, they've got to change up the industry
Make it all available on MP3
Listen to people like you and me
And make us want to pay a monthly fee
This song is not my lyrical catastrophe
Go ahead and grab it, it's completely free
And gotta pay your dime to listen to me
So share this song and fork the industry
7-7-5-0-1-0-1
2-0-2
7-7-5-0-1-0-1
Be sure to get the permission of your parents first
7-7-5-0-1-0-1
2-0-2
7-7-5-0-1-0-1
We're 60 million strong
7-7-5-0-1-0-1-0-1 quarto
7-夏 Johannes сказал
7-7-5-0-1-0-1-0-1
8-7-5-0-1-0-1
8-7-6-0-1-0
8-7-6-0-1
9-7-7-5-0-1-0
7-7-5-0-1-0
8-7-6-0-1-0
7-7-7-5-0-1-0
9-7-5-0-1-0
9-7-7-6-0-1-0
7-7-6-0-1-0
8-7-6-0-1-0
8-7-6-0-1
9-9-7-7-6-0-1