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Get ready to rock the planet, get ready, the digital dog pound presents binary revolution

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radio, now launch the base.

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Get ready to rock the planet, get ready to rock the planet, get ready to rock the planet,

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act the system, hackers unite, get ready to rock the planet, act the planet, act the system,

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hackers unite, get ready to rock the planet, get ready to rock the planet, act the system,

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reduce the number of pilots, manage to rock the planet, get ready to rock the planet,

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your fortress, they're ready to rock the planet, act the system, hacking and

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Actors unite, act the planet, act the system, get ready to act the system, get ready to act the planet.

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Act the planet, act the planet, act the planet, act the planet, act the planet, act the planet.

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That's show notes, a topic that you are oh, oh, so familiar with.

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Every time I come on, I'm astounded by the amount of your show notes.

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I keep bringing it up.

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Let's get into the housekeeping.

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Well, that is a very good idea.

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See how the show notes keep the flow going.

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The housekeeping section, a lot more feedback, a lot more feedback, a lot more email, which

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is great.

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I love hearing from people.

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I love hearing from people.

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It tells me whether we suck or we don't suck, what people want to hear, blah, blah, blah, feedback

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on previous shows.

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And our very first one is a bit of feedback on the last episode with our good friend, Rax, the

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Miggity Mac Daddy, and real name is withheld.

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We don't mention the real name, so we're going to call it anonymous.

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And he says, quote, he or she says, excuse me, I was listening to tonight's show, January 27th, 04,

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and heard something about organizing a hacker-type meeting in Phoenix.

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Excuse me if this has already been answered, for this was the first Binary Revolution show

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I've heard, but are you in Arizona?

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If so, let me know.

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I'm in Arizona doing Pirate FM broadcasts and would love to get the word out about your

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show, perhaps use some content from it.

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Brad, Pirate FM, flag, that's awesome.

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How elite is that?

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When he or she says hacker-type meeting, I'm assuming they're a con, not the 2600 meeting.

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Well, actually, let's mention both.

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Let's go ahead and, if this person's interested in possibly attending any and all of this stuff,

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of course you do have regular monthly hacker meetings, 2600, DEFCON, whatever you guys,

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you know, it doesn't matter what you call it.

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Yeah, 2600 meetings, you can go to az2600.org.

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They've been organized, they've been around for years.

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Shout to Nine Bolts and Slip and Rax for putting it all together.

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We meet at the northeast corner, this is verbatim off the site, I'm there now,

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on northeast corner of 24th Street and Countback at the Borders.

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You go upstairs, we meet in the cafe, they're very cool there, we have great, great meetings.

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What's coming up this week?

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Oh, yes, I'm glad you put that on there.

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I did not put a reminder in here that meetings would be coming up this Friday.

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That's right, that's right.

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You know what, I also didn't even mention on the start of the show that this is Tuesday, February, February, February 3rd,

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and the two tons plus four, so originally aired, of course, and if you're hearing it after that, you're listening to a rerun.

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Right.

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But, yeah, there is a thread in the forums, forums.binrev.com, some brainstorming ideas, get some information about said conference,

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and I don't know that they really want to refer to it as a conference.

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I think they were kind of saying that treating it more like a weekend hackers meeting or a weekend long 2600 meeting

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or something along those lines, if I understood correctly.

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Just a lot more organized, some presentations, stuff like that.

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So, I guess, I mean, it is a conference, but...

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Can I give you a little insider info?

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Oh, by all means.

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I hope they don't mind.

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I actually met with Slip and Rax this weekend.

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We had a little bit of confed, if you know what I mean.

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And they were telling me, Slip specifically, that he would like to make this special.

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You know, you could pay, you know, a thousand, if not thousands of dollars to go to, let's say, hacker schools,

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hacker camps, hacker workshops, right?

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Who knows what you're going to learn.

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If you would like to get the real junk, what they are envisioning is a hacker convention in Phoenix, right,

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in the PHX that is full of how-tos, that is full of demonstrations where you sit down with your laptop

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and there will be workshops there.

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I think that would make it, you know, ultimately one of the most special cons there are.

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Because you pay, what, 50 bucks, tops?

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And you get stuff that you can pay thousands for at one of these crappy, quote, hacker camps or whatever the hell they are.

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So, I think that would make it very special.

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So, I hope they don't mind me breaking that out.

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Well, it's...

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Insider info there for you.

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Yeah, I guess you guys are still brainstorming it.

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Like you said, it's this in-progress thing.

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I think that's a great idea myself, but realistically, that's going to take a lot of volunteers

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and a lot of people helping to make it really hands-on and very immersive.

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And, you know, there's going to be a lot of people to do a case-by-case or, you know, a one-on-one basis.

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So, there's going to be a lot of...

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See, the lucky thing is you guys have a lot of great active people.

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That's a bit much, I think.

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We definitely have a strong community in Phoenix.

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Absolutely.

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There is an extremely...

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I think it's good size, and it's an extremely strong community.

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I think we have the people to do it.

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Right, and that's basically what I was saying, is it might not be one-on-one,

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but they're going to probably give you much better attention than you would get at some

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of the other things you mentioned, some of those classes, et cetera.

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And these are people that do it.

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Yeah, and so it's going to take a lot of people working, a lot of volunteers, but that's

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what I'm saying.

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I think you guys can do it.

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Of all the people, you guys are the ones that could do it.

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Yeah, so, better info for you.

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Very, very cool.

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And again, there is a thread pinned in the general hacking forum, forums.binrev.com, that

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you can check for updates.

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Of course, the website that Duel just mentioned, lots of places, and we'll do everything we

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can here on the show and on the site to get the information out there.

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So, yeah, keep listening to the show and keep checking us out and keep checking out the

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other sites for more information.

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Now, on to another email from Error.

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It says, well, let's see.

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You know where this is coming from, I suppose.

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Last week, I needed to return.

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Oh, this is a little Project Walmart Freedom.

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What perfect timing this is.

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Hit me.

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This is a little Project Walmart.

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Well, it's a Walmart story.

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I didn't read this part.

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Okay, well, you're going to, this might make you mad, so here you go.

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I'll get you nice and steamed up for the show.

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Uh-huh.

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Last week, I needed to return a game that looked decent but turned out to not work.

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Nothing at all worked on it.

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So, I tried to take it back to Walmart, and they just looked at me like I was crazy.

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So, I got my grandma to take it back.

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This game won't work on my grandson's computer.

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Oh, no problem.

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They didn't ask her a single question.

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Interesting.

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Single question.

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So, and last week with Rax, we kind of made the comment of good luck taking something back to Walmart.

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They don't take games back.

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They don't take any open CDs or anything like that because they've gotten so stingy and so stringent and so nitpicky.

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They're not what Walmart originally was intended.

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They've turned into a bunch of greedy, well, you know what?

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I'll just turn you loose on it.

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Okay.

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First of all, shrink wrap licensing pisses me off.

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Yeah.

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Look at the things that can happen.

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And this is not just Walmart.

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This is a lot of places.

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There are actually some video game stores, right, specialty stores, but they'll give you like seven days.

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You can go, you can try it out, you can bring it back.

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Good.

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That's good.

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Good for them.

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Give them your money.

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There are other places that, let's say, you want to buy a new game and all they have left is the display copyright.

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They have the empty case up and they get the CD and they sell it to you.

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They sell it to you as new, and they sell it to you with the same shrink wrap licensing.

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I think that's so ass backwards, right?

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Oh, I know.

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That really is.

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That's a bunch of crap.

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That's not cool.

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I never buy those.

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There's a game I want.

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Nope, I won't take that because that's just hypocrisy.

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So there's shrink wrap licensing, right?

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I think that's a crock.

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And finally, this, unfortunately, this doesn't surprise me.

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Warburg is unfair in the least.

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They'll absolutely discriminate against, you know, if this, I don't know, I don't know what he looks like, but I can just assume he's a young kid.

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Maybe he's, you know, maybe, you know, he's not wearing a suit and a tie, right?

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So they're not going to just, you know, he's not a grandma either, unfortunately.

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So they're going to say, screw you little kid.

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You got nothing.

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You got no power.

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You know, you're not going to go complain to anybody.

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But a grandma comes in, somebody who deserves respect in the society.

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Oh, sure.

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Of course.

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Sure.

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We'll take it back.

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Whatever you say.

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So, absolutely, they discriminate.

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They discriminate with their own frickin' workers.

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Of course, they don't care about us, you know, measly sheep coming in and buying their products straight from China.

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Yeah.

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They don't respect us paying consumers.

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They don't.

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We don't have, oh, when we get to the personal hacking section, we'll talk more about it.

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Oh, boy, I can't wait.

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Yeah, I'm sure.

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So, well, there's the answer.

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If you've got to return something, give it to your parents, your grandparents.

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Hell, give it to some old homeless guy in the street.

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Apparently, he'll get more respect than you will as a young person.

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I don't know if he's a, frankly, I don't know how old he is.

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I'm sure he's not a kid, but even if you're a teenager or something like that, they're probably

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going to give you a much harder time than they would someone else's.

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I don't know.

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If I could go back one step further, don't shop at Walmart.

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Well, that is a solution also.

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And any game.

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Tell them your parents don't shop there.

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Tell them about the evils of frickin' Walmart.

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Tell them what they do.

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Tell them to read Project Walmart Freedom, available at waltz.com.

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If they want to get the telephone info on Walmart, sure.

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But there are many other resources.

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Maybe we can talk about those as well in the first one.

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All right.

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All right.

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Well, then, let's jump on.

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So that's all we have to say about that.

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Now, we've got another email from someone that you're familiar with, Lashek.

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Yeah.

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Lashek, of course, hosted.

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That's for the masses.

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On Rant Radio.

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Now, he sent in an email a couple episodes back, episode 28, about the definition of the word hacker.

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And we kind of questioned.

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He didn't put a smile or anything, but it was pretty apparent that he was being sarcastic.

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But he had emailed me back confirming that, yes, he was being sarcastic.

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We figured that on the show.

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We assumed that.

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So he cleared that up.

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But he also went into a lot more detail about some other topics that we've discussed on past shows.

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Too much of it to read on the air, but it was a great letter.

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And I did read it start to finish on my own.

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I have read the whole thing.

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It's just a little much to read on the air.

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But what I would like to do is print it completely in the next issue of Binary Revolution magazine.

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So please send me an email.

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If you're listening, confirm if you wouldn't mind us printing it.

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I guess that would be issue 2.2 because 2.1 is gone to print or is gone to layout.

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So it's probably too late for that one.

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And as long as we're on that topic.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Can we talk about this check one more second?

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Sure, absolutely.

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Okay.

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If you've never listened to a show, it was on Rant Radio some time ago.

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So Magic for the Masses?

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Yeah, Magic for the Masses.

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Great show.

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I am remiss in that I don't have the archives.

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And I'm going to be searching for them now.

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I'm glad it's brought back up.

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But I used to listen to it.

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It's a great show.

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I mean, absolutely unique in absolutely what Internet radio is for.

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So if you can track those down, do it.

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You will not be sorry.

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And just because it has magic, it doesn't mean it's a bunch of crap because it's not.

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It's a very, very good radio.

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Thank you.

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This has been brought to you by Rant Radio.

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Actually, no, seriously, the Rant Radio has a lot of good stuff.

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Seriously.

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Rant Radio plays a lot of different good shows, a good variety of shows.

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They really are.

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I've shouted them out on here many times before in the individual shows.

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Oh, yeah, I've shouted them out too.

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Yep.

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Where was I?

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Oh, yeah.

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So this actually, mentioning printing this in the magazine, if, again, if he gives me permission, I'd like to.

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So anybody that wants to send feedback, I'd like, we have an email address, radio at binrev.com for the radio show.

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For general feedback, you want to send me something, follow up on something on the radio show, something like that, send it to radio at binrev.com.

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But we also have just plain old feedback at binrev.com.

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So if you want to send any kind of feedback, I really would like to see more feedback about the magazine, frankly.

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I want to know what people like about it, what they don't like about it, feedback about specific articles that were in previous issues of the magazine.

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If you like the Hacking 101 series, write back and say, I'd like to see more of this.

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Or if it sucks, if you don't want to see any more, write in and tell me that too.

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Or, you know, what kind of articles would you like to see more of or less of?

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Perhaps you've gotten more information, done some research on a topic that we talked about.

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Maybe you went out and did some more research on Coinstar, something like that.

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You want to give us a little extra information that we can add in there.

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Obviously, if you have articles, you can submit to articles at binrev.com.

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If you have something that would make a full article itself.

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So, but yeah, by all means, I want to have some direct correspondence relating to the magazine on what people like, what they don't like.

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I mean, it's possible, highly, extremely unlikely, of course.

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But it is possible that we could have accidentally, possibly made a mistake.

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Yeah, I know, it doesn't sound real likely.

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Actually, it sounds very likely.

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No way!

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Yes, yes, I know it's hard to believe.

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But see, the thing is, I blame Rax.

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If there's a mistake, it's probably Rax's fault.

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I like the pictures.

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Everybody likes the pictures.

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Logan 5 does such incredible work that I can never stop.

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I could talk about that for hours and hours.

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Use the shit, man.

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Yeah, I mean, seriously.

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Ugh.

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Well, anyway.

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He deserves a party at frickin' Chuck E. Cheese, man.

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He's so good.

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He's going to be on an upcoming show.

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We're working it out right now.

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He's been a very busy man lately.

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So, we are.

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I've been emailing and we're getting on the show as soon as humanly possible.

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So, he will be back on soon.

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So, anyway.

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Letters at BinRev.com.

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Feedback at BinRev.com.

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RadioBinRev.com.

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Blah, blah, blah.

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Send us feedback appropriate to the particular thing.

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I really would like to see more feedback on the magazine itself.

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Right now, I pull from the forums.

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I pull from personal emails I get.

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I pull some of the radio miscellaneous from a lot of different places.

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And I'd like to have some more feedback on the articles themselves.

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Because I still think we've got really good articles.

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I like reading the stuff that people submit.

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We get a lot of great stuff.

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Absolutely.

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Okay.

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And on to yet more feedback.

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We had a lot of good feedback lately.

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And this one is from, and forgive me.

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I'm not sure if it's Regicide or Regicide.

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Regicide, I guess I'm going with.

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Anyway, he says, he or she says,

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I would just like to tell you the show is great.

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Thank you.

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I found it and have been listening to the past episodes.

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About three a day, so I'm almost done.

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Wow.

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I listen in the morning on my MP3 cell phone

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in place of the Howard Stern show that I used to listen to in the morning at work.

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Just thought you would like to know you stole a listener from someone

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that gets paid a whole lot of money to keep me listening.

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Also, I wanted to add that the new Winamp is great.

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That's how I found you.

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It has Rant Radio on the channels list.

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Anyway, keep doing the good work, and I will keep listening.

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Again, Regicide, thank you.

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Three episodes a day?

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I don't even know if I could listen to three episodes of me a day.

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I wish I could.

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I annoy myself.

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I don't think I could handle it.

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He's a machine, man.

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He is an absolute monster.

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A key.

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This, you know what, this is my favorite email.

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It really is, because Howard Stern?

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Uh-oh.

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The pimp's phone be ringing.

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Can I answer it?

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You answer it.

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I'll go ahead and continue.

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This is Rant Bay Radio right here.

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Bland.

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You are on Binary Revolution Radio.

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Rad.

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He says rad.

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Yeah, unfortunately.

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I don't know anything to listeners, but we're totally, dude, RFA'ing his show right now.

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You got a message for everybody?

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It's time to...

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Feeding the dog, burying the bone.

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Can I three-way in Bland?

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I don't know.

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Can you?

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Yeah, I can.

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I suppose you can.

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All right, Rad.

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Hold on.

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Bland's used to going without show notes on RFA.

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Oh, yeah.

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That's wrong.

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See?

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This is what radio's about, baby.

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Right here.

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Hold on a second.

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We totally RFA'd the show is right.

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This is an impromptu three-way.

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Hey.

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Which doesn't sound nearly as cool as it should.

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An impromptu three-way?

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A little.

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Bland?

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Bland.

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Yes.

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You are going to feed the dogs with Binary Revolution Radio.

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Rad.

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I don't know what kind of code.

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Is that like dog in the bucket or something?

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Like dog in the bathtub?

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I don't...

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I don't even know if it's going to pick Bland up, because we didn't do sound checks,

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so I'm not sure if it's going to pick them up, but...

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That's okay.

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Go ahead.

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Go ahead.

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Go on.

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He'll listen then.

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So you had an email, one of your favorites.

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Email.

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Because...

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Well, see, what he mentioned was he listens to Howard Stern.

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Now, Howard Stern is a multimillionaire, probably the most famous radio voice in the

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entire world, who I actually listen to on occasion.

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You're lying.

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Actually, I listen to my Nerdcore CD sometimes.

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But, yeah, this is really cool because this is a multimillion dollar guy, and we didn't

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steal anybody away.

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I just think it's cool that this guy would rather listen to an independent radio show

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than listen to this mass-produced...

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I don't even know how to put it into words.

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It's very...

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I'm honored to know that somebody would rather listen to...

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We're actually giving something that has value to somebody, that they would rather listen

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to us than listen to somebody as huge as Howard Stern.

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And that, to me, is really cool, and it shows that, you know, it's not...

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There are people out there that would...

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They don't have to listen to the same crap every day.

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They don't have to listen to shock radio.

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They don't have to listen to all this other stuff.

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They'll listen and be educated, hopefully, and listen to something that they find interesting.

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And I think that's very cool and very admirable of you.

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It is.

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It's amazing that you can actually consume something of substance.

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That's right.

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It actually exists.

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And we're just, hopefully, a small contributing part to that.

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I hope.

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We try.

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Yeah.

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Hell yeah, we try.

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I have dogs fighting in the background.

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Y'all try?

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Uh-oh.

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Well, that means you, Bland, but I guess collectively, the community, we try.

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But RFA, no, please.

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Well, that wraps up the mailbag portion of the show.

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But also, while we're doing the housekeeping, of course, I go out and I check my logs every

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once in a while.

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I'll check my statistics page, et cetera, et cetera, just see what's going on.

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And I thought I'd share some of the interesting stuff from this time.

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I got a top ten list of where my hits come from, from binrev.com.

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Some of them are obvious.

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Number one is .net.

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Number two is .com.

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Number three is actually unknown.

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And number four is .edu, educational facilities, which is very cool.

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By the way, the unknown is Zapper.

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Yeah.

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That's right.

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Probably.

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The funny, this is not funny.

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This is interesting.

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The number five hit after those, I found strange.

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And actually, this is the first country, quote, unquote, this is the first country code to

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be on the list.

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Number five, most hits, comes from Poland.

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Hell yeah.

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Dude, isn't Havoc from Poland?

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Isn't it?

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I mean, isn't that just cool that we have, well, we get a lot of country hits, but I mean,

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man, that's a lot of hits.

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There are some freaking lead polls, dude.

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I think Havoc is from Poland, right, Bland?

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Yeah, dude.

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Like, everyone I've ever talked to from Poland, like, knew their stuff.

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Hell yeah, dude.

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They know their shit.

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And, pardon me, they know their stuff.

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I've had Wi-Fi articles mirrored on Polish sites.

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Dude, straight up, they're the stuff, man.

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I'm telling you.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that in Havoc, yeah, I've spoken to him, and I think he is from

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Poland.

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Yep.

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Number six is kind of scary.

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Number six is .gov.

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You know how much we love the government hits.

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Nice.

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They're always up there, around 15 or so, but they jumped to number six this week, so

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we must have had something that interested them.

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Jumped to number six this week, the .gov.

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We must have had something that interested them.

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That's a good radio voice.

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So, what's that, Bland?

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W is a big fan of the show.

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Yeah, George W.

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This is the Binary Revolution Radio.

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Well, we also get hits from .us, number seven on the list.

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Next on the top ten list.

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Number, well, number, let's see, that was number seven, climbing several spots to number

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seven, .us.

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Falling this week to number eight is .org.

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And no, Bland, that is not orgy.

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That is .org for a non-profit organization.

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And, let's see, number nine is .nl, which, of course, dual is?

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The Netherlands.

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You got it.

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And number ten, rounding out the top ten, our good friends from the north, up in Canada.

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Oh, Canada.

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Canada, eh?

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That's all I know.

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Canada likes hacking, eh?

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Eh?

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I also got a couple other interesting hits further down the list.

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Number 16, our good friends .mil, the military checking up.

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And I tell you what, I got a weird one.

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I thought it was weird.

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.nu.

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.nu was down on the list.

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Lots of countries, but, which is a place called, I don't even know how to pronounce this.

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Do you know how to pronounce this, dual?

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Uh, no.

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N-I-U-E.

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Nayu?

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Nui?

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I don't know.

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I don't know, either.

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He's been around before.

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But, hey, welcome to everybody, big and small, whatever your country is, check it out.

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Yeah.

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Also, lots of Wgets.

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Increasing number of Wgets.

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So, um.

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Blaine probably wrote a script.

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Yeah, right, and forgot to turn it off.

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Actually, I know one of those.

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I gave permission to somebody to do some testing for me on the site, so I know one of those coming from.

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I got a lot, and actually, this month, there was a. . .

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I always get hit, of course, from, like, Googlebot and AltaVista and some of the web crawlers, some of the big search.

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I got a lot of other search engines this time.

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They all, I follow up on them, make sure they're all legit, make sure they're all not some, something else.

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And they all seem valid.

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There were some search engines from other countries, which, as we said earlier, is very cool.

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Search engines that were just small ones, startups, stuff like that, that were, yeah, just crawling the site, and that's cool.

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The more we get the word out, the more, the happier, you know, the more people we get, and the happier I am about it.

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So, I think it's very cool.

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But. . .

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This kind of pisses me off, because Powweb used to resolve IP dreads, and they don't anymore.

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Well. . .

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Well, now, I just got a big, like, the Pike dread is just one big green blob unresolved, and it kind of pisses me off to enjoy stuff just like this, but, oh well.

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Of course, you could also come to the dark side, but I'm not even going to bring that back up again.

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We won't go there, because you're sold on Powweb.

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I've got a gig of space now, baby.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And our final. . .

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You know, this is something that Rax and I will talk about this more, because I know he gets into it, but we're going to talk about the Super Bowl a little bit.

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Now, you know, we have to add a third space.

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Now, we usually go into our, you know, what have we been working on, blah, blah, blah, hacking stories, and you're chomping at the bit for something.

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So, if we can skip you, go to me?

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Well, I'll make mine quick.

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I've been working on setting up the streaming media server.

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It's really close.

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It's almost working.

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I might actually be streaming this episode on it as a test.

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So, that's it.

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That's all I have to say.

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That's rad.

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Yeah, tell everybody what we did for the Super Bowl, Bland.

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Bland and I spent time on the phone, and Bland, what did you do?

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I installed Blackware.

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How many times?

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I'm on, like, number three, I think.

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How's it working now?

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It works like a charm now.

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Nice.

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Very nice.

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Yeah, you had some weird problems we both did, actually.

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Yeah.

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No, I have no idea if you're being picked up or not.

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I don't know if the listeners can hear you at all.

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So, Dool, I think you might have to...

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They might not be able to hear you, Bland.

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Yeah, you might have to translate here.

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Okay.

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Basically, correct me if I'm wrong, Glenn, because I can still hear you.

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He installed Blackware, put on the new Flux 9-8, correct?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and it wouldn't let him customize menus.

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It wouldn't let him do anything to the menus.

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It just didn't recognize it at all.

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So, you tried it again, and the third shot, it worked?

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Yeah.

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Good.

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Good.

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Everything works.

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And at the same time, see, that's what we did for the Super Bowl.

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We did not watch it because we're not into basketball.

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So, we spent time on the phone.

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Slackbox is doing some goofy things, too.

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Actually, I think it's hardware.

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My integrated Nick on this $150 Taiwanese box took crap, so I got a freaking...

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Anyway, that's what happened to me.

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He got his work in.

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I'm thinking of putting in another Nick, and I'm thinking about FreeBSD, Bland.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I think 5-2-1 came out or something like that.

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Anyway, so that's what we did for the Super Bowl.

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And that...

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Time for personal hacking?

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Is that your story?

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No.

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Well, that's...

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I'm going to say, I'm waiting for what...

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What do you got?

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Okay, well, first...

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All right, first, I'll give a little tech, and I'll do it on this show.

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I won't save it for RFA.

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A little Bluetooth.

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I had a couple of spare adapters.

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I sent one to Hack and Slash.

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He's going to be working on a graphical version of Ghetto Tooth.

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Right?

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Ghetto Tooth TK.

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So, props to Hack.

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And then I sent one to Bland because he's my dog.

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And he'll get to start sniffing Bluetooth as well.

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I also upgraded mine.

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I actually picked up a Class 1, right, which is a 100-meter range, a Class 1 Bluetooth adapter,

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USB Bluetooth adapter by Linksys, a.k.a. Cisco.

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Not only is this a Class 1 device, again, 100-meter range, model number USB-BT100, it has an external antenna.

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Yes, that's right.

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It's got a little stubby antenna on it.

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So, and it comes with a little extension cord.

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It's pretty short, but I've got longer ones, and you can buy longer ones.

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So, theoretically, I've yet to try this, and I'm planning to.

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So, theoretically, this might actually mean that more driving for Bluetooth may be possible, may be feasible.

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I don't know for a fact yet.

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I live in a kind of a podunk town.

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Maybe if I go downtown, maybe I can pick up some stuff.

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But with the extension cord, with the Class 1 device, with the external antenna, sticking it out the window, you know,

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prompting it outside the car, actually, war driving for Bluetooth may be feasible.

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I will let everyone know.

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I'm going to be testing this out soon as soon as I get a spare moment.

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Make sure you take the video camera with you.

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That's, you know, that's a good idea.

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Maybe I will.

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So, there's a little tech.

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And then the biggest thing, and it shouts to me right now, props to me, I read Culture Jam.

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I picked it up.

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I talked about it on the last RFA.

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I was just into it, and I read the whole thing.

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I mean, I devoured this book.

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Very few books I read so fast.

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It's so well written.

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It cleared up so much.

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I don't think it's an overstatement to say that it changed my life.

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It absolutely changed how I look at everything now, especially in this country and things

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that come from this country.

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Culture Jam is an absolute must-read.

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It's cheap.

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It's paperback.

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It's $14.

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You'll get it used if you can.

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Do you have it in front of you there?

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I'm holding it in my hand.

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Describe it for the listeners.

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What is the cover so they can find it?

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Who it was written by?

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It's by a probably butcher's name, Kale Lassen, founder of Adbusters and the Media Foundation.

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The book is called Culture Jam.

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His last name is L-A-S-N.

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Adbusters is also a great magazine, by the way, adbusters.org.

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Again, it's Culture Jam, how to reverse America's suicidal consumer binge and why we must.

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It describes everything.

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How corporations became, basically people, how corporations came to life and how they have

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more rights than citizens do right now and how we must change that.

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And even where the phrase Culture Jam came from, I've had Negative Land CD jammed on 84 for

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quite some time.

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And that's where Culture Jamming came from, from that CD and what Negative Land does.

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That's a very good CD, by the way.

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And it will absolutely change the way you look at everything.

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And Meme, Meme has been on the show.

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She's talked about Culture Jamming.

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She's written a text file that gives you tons of Culture Jamming resources.

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It's on Old School Freak.

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Not to mention the artwork.

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Yeah.

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Oh, and all her artwork, which is jamming, which are the memes that she's creating and that

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are spreading.

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If I may, well, maybe I won't be so bold, but I hope that Project Walmart Freedom at least

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starts the meme, right?

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The anti-meme against Walmart and their low prices always and whatever crap they're spewing

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and becomes the new cool, right?

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What people will think about every time somebody says Walmart, and that is that it's a bunch

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of crap.

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But they are not benefiting our nation.

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They are not benefiting the workers that barely get paid there, right?

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That's the whole point of that, to change it in that way.

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I've got the plans of my own, and I will try to document them as best I can, but I absolutely

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implore you, whoever is listening to this show, to get this book and read it.

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Absolutely.

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And I'm going to continue to read.

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I'm going to continue to work at it, at jamming, whether it be Walmart, whether it be, you know,

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the double A's, right, the MPA, the RIA, but I can't stress enough how good that is, and

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I can't thank meme enough for opening my eyes, because she literally did.

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That's what I've been doing.

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That sounds very, very interesting.

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Well, I appreciate it, because it is.

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And what I will do, well, see, now see here, ironically, I don't know if I can do this

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or should do this.

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Would it be, we know you hate Walmart.

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How do you feel about Amazon?

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I don't know, never used it, dealt with it, no idea.

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I was just going to, I was getting ready to offer that maybe in the show notes I'll put

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a link straight to the book at Amazon so people can go check it out.

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Why not?

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If you can't, if you can't get it at a used bookstore, if you can't check it out at your

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local library, I mean, or if you don't have to own it, then, yeah, what the hell, buy it

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on Amazon, that's fine.

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And what I'll do, and the other thing that Amazon is good for is that you might just go and

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check it out and see if you like it, and then buy it locally.

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You know, you can go on there and research it, look at a couple sample pages, read some

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reviews on the book from others, and stuff like that.

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So you can use Amazon to do a little research, and then, like Dool said, go to a used bookstore

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perhaps and pick it up.

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I'll tell you what, I believe, I've got a friend, right?

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No, you don't.

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Uh, she, uh, she, she, like, she loves, cares for her book so much that she won't even bend

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the spine when she reads it.

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To me, no.

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That's not how, a book should be used, it should be carried, it should be dog-eared, it should

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be loved.

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All of that wear, all of that, that, that love you put in the book, you know, all of

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those marks are signs of that love.

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I will make this offer right now.

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Right now.

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On Binary Revolution Radio, I will offer this book.

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I will send it around to all the hackers, all the freaks, anybody in the community would

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like to read it.

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Blant, do you want to read this book?

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Sure.

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I will mail it to Blant, Blant said, sure, by the way.

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I will mail it to Blant and he will read it.

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And guess what?

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Somebody can post it on boards, whatever, I'd like to read it.

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Send their address to Blant, and guess what?

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Hopefully Blant will have the wherewithal the means, if not, I'll, I'll give, make sure

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he does, to mail it to them and they can read it.

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I will have this book go around the freaking North American continent, right?

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I'll have this thing go around Canada and the U.S. at least so many times and so many

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people would be educated.

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This is one book that I hold in my hand right now.

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I make that offer right now.

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Everyone write your handle on the inside front cover.

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Dude, rad.

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Awesome.

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Is North America a continent, by the way?

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Last time I...

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Right now.

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I'm offering it right now.

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Blant will be the first.

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I'll mail it to Blant and he'll get to read it.

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And then guess what?

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The next person wants to read it, you write in, write the stank, write the radiopinrev.com,

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say, hey, I want to read it next.

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We'll make sure it gets to you.

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And as long as you write your handle on the inside cover and send it off.

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We're going to, this book's going to make the rounds, baby.

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We're going to educate and we're going to give this book some love.

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Culture jamming.

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Hell yeah.

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Well, that is a very, very generous offer.

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That is very tough to follow.

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But we are going to try.

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I know you can.

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We're going to go into some actual show topics.

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Let's see.

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How should I approach this?

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I'll tell you what I'm good at.

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I'm going to go through it as quickly as possible.

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But there are some service packs from Microsoft that are upcoming and have been announced.

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So I wanted to kind of touch on them a little bit.

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First one is Windows XP Service Pack 2 Beta.

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This was supposed to have been out in December of 2003.

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So I don't know if they ever did release it or not.

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And I'm pretty sure it's at least out to early developers or something.

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But the XP Service Pack 2 Beta.

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The final version, the final Service Pack 2 Windows XP is supposed to come out in the middle of 2004,

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which would be this year.

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And even looking forward, and I don't know if they're actually going to stick to these dates.

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These are early announcements.

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But SQL Server 2000 Service Pack 4.

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Why even bother?

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Why not just do SQL Server 2004?

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Why call it?

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Well, anyway, who am I to question the big M?

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That's supposed to come out the first half of 2004.

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SQL Server Reporting Services, December 2003.

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So that should have been recently released.

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I don't know.

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I've never...

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Have either one of you guys ever used SQL Server?

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No, I haven't planned.

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That was a big no for the planter.

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I've never had any call or need, so I don't even know much about it.

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I'm on my Red Hat box right now.

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Let me patch it real quick here.

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Live on the air.

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And finally, Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1, first half of 2004 as well.

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Now...

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Hold on.

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I'm going to patch my Red Hat box.

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A-P-T.

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Enter.

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It's patching.

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Wrote a little script.

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Actually, Bland wrote a little script for App for RPM.

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So it goes out and gets all my stuff up.

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We're updated.

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We're good.

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You're good?

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I'm good.

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Are you good?

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That's it.

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Okay.

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Bland, how about that Slackware box?

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I'm getting there.

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He's doing it right now.

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Are you using Slapget or Soiree?

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I'm going to use Slapget.

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Bland is going to use Slapget, which I've yet to use.

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So you saved that review for the next RFA.

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Yeah, I'm just now getting the package in.

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You know, I'm just rebuilding this box right now.

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Brad.

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He's rebuilding the box.

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For everybody, look forward to the next RFA.

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You're going to get a review of Slapget.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So...

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Oh, crap.

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The show notes.

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What show notes?

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Stank.

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I'm so sorry.

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That's all right.

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We have a tendency to stray from the show notes.

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They're only a guideline.

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That's very true.

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So, what is in Service Pack, do you think?

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Oh, what a great segue back to the show notes, right?

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Yes.

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First of all, there's a lot.

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I cut and pasted this.

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That's why he's teasing me about the show notes being so long.

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I cut and pasted this stuff from the webpage.

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I will put the link up in the show notes so people can go there directly and read them all

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if they want more detail about them.

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But the quick version is they're adding basically four things.

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One is network protection, supposedly better protection against network-based attacks like

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Blaster, etc., etc., etc.

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They're going to update the ICF, the Internet Connection Firewall, turning on higher levels

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of security as default, which is something they really should have done from day one.

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I don't know why they didn't, but that's a whole other thing.

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RPC service, they're addressing some of the problems with that.

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DCOM, lots of network changes and modifications reactively instead of proactively.

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But, hey, take what you can get, I guess.

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The second thing is they're doing a lot of memory protections, meaning that they're going

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to protect, well, they're going to have protected areas of memory, I guess, most commonly referred

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to buffer overruns.

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They're going to have, like, non-executable stacks?

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Yeah, they're going to have, it's, there's so many different ways and so many different

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approaches to this that, again, this is something that you can go read up the details of exactly

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how and what, and actually, they're only going to release so many details, you know that.

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But, yeah, basically, they're going to have a little bit more memory protection, a lot

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more, but there's so many types that I don't, they're never going to get them all.

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So, again, they're reacting, fixing what's known and what's been released, but I'm sure

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people will find more.

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So, that's going to at least help, again, on a reactive standpoint.

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Number three is, say, for email, they're going to, well, they claim, anyway, see, fundamentally,

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the nature of Outlook and the way it works is weak, but they claim they're going to add

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some new security technologies to stop viruses, the email spreading viruses, the macro viruses,

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et cetera, et cetera.

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That, again, one part of that is changing the default settings so that they default at

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a higher security level, which, again, should have been there from day one.

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Man, I'm switching.

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Yeah, oh, it makes it worthwhile, right?

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Well.

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Who needs Firebird and Thunderbird?

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And the fourth thing, which is pretty much impossible, is safer browsing, they're claiming.

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They're going to put new security features in IE, Internet Explorer, I mean Explorer, that

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will add a lot more improved, quote, improved protection against malicious content on the

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web.

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No, I think any would be good.

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You didn't hear that, Blant said, I think any would be good.

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Ten billion lines of code, you can secure one or two.

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Yeah.

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Secure a couple of those lines of code, please.

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You know, I think Blant told me this before.

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You want to know how to browse securely?

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Don't use IE.

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Well, then there are, unfortunately, some people who don't have a choice.

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So, there are some people that a kid, a young person, has to use their parents' computer.

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They don't have a choice.

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They're going to have to use whatever their parents give them access to.

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You go to a university where you're not allowed to install anything or classroom environment

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or something like that, you don't have a choice.

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Well, then security's not up to you either.

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I'm sorry?

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Then security's not up to you either.

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Well, hopefully the sysadmins will be able to keep up with their standard desktops to update

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the security for their users.

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Right.

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So, it's better than...

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That's exactly what I'm saying.

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But they might not have the option to install Firebird.

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You know what would be cool?

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I was thinking about this.

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What would be cool, Blant, speaking up while you say it?

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Well, since you don't have to install Firebird on the Windows machine...

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That's true.

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You can put it on a CD, right, and make the default...

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Like the cache directory, you can either use no cache, or make it something that exists

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everywhere, like help or something like that.

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Tamp.

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So you're running from a CD.

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Can everybody write to temp in Windows?

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It all depends on how the security settings are set up, and what group settings they've

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been assigned to.

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Interesting.

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Well, whatever.

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It's all...

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Yeah.

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You can turn caching off.

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There you go.

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Well, the user might not be able to, once again.

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It all depends.

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No, no, no.

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I mean, like if you download Firebird and put it on a CD, and then like turn caching off

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before you burn it into the CD, and then you take the CD with you.

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Oh, I see what you're saying.

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Not a freaking business card CD.

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That rocks.

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Yep.

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And turn off caching.

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Turn off a business card, baby.

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Turn off cookies, all that kind of stuff.

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Yep.

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Hmm.

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That'd be an interesting thing to test.

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That would be an interesting article.

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That would be a very interesting article to write right there.

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Hint, hint.

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Hint, hint.

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Yeah, I'm using your t-shirt.

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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

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Oh, don't you have enough, stat writer?

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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

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Oh, man.

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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

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Bland is my dog, and the snake dog is my dog as well.

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You are my dog, and Bland is my dog.

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Oh, thank you.

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Everybody's my dog.

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Thank you.

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Oh, man.

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All right, well, we are running short on time, so I am going to start wrapping it up.

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Um, we will have Rax back on next week, and we're going to go through, probably the majority

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of the show will be going through that 101 ways to save the internet that we've been

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going on for the last few weeks.

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I'd like to try to wrap that up.

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We're only getting a few in each episode, so I'd like to spend an episode and try to get

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most of them, if not all of them, done.

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So, that will probably be next week's show.

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Again, with Rax, we can work that out.

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And then, shortly thereafter, probably Logan 5.

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So, um...

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Can I say something real quick?

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Sure, by all means.

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There's a great read on FlashDot, and it's about the iLug, the IRAC Linux users group.

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They had an interview with a gentleman that's there now, I believe.

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Um, a great read.

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Go read it if you can.

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And, uh, you can send me that link, and I will put it in the show notes for people.

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Will do.

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And, uh, directly to that article.

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And, uh, we're time for the shout-outs, so why don't you lead us off?

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Me?

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You!

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What kind of...

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I'm definitely me for opening my eyes.

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Okay.

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Land, of course, you, Spang, Rax, a whole AZ-2600 crew.

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Um, and you know what, just...

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I had an epiphany one day.

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One of many, I know.

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I was on IRC.

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Uh, while I was working on PWF.

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That's right, Project Walmart Freedom.

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Uh, people had sent in numbers, payphone numbers, Watts lines.

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I'd added, like, five people to the contributors, uh, at the top of the article.

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At the top of that big, large, at that huge text box.

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And I just, I was overwhelmed.

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I was literally overwhelmed by the sense of community, by the amazing people that contribute

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to things like that.

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And not just, not just PWF.

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I mean, that's just, that's just a small part of the community.

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They just do amazing things every day.

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The posts on the boards, the codes, the articles, the pictures, everything.

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You know?

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And, and, and again, I was overwhelmed.

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So I let everybody at IRC know.

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I said, wow, I feel, this is what I said.

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This is why I'm bringing this up.

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I typed this in IRC.

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I am proud to say that I am a part of this community.

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I, I had to.

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I had to let everyone know.

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And, of course, they all said, where the hell did that come from, you know?

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Weirdo.

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You know?

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I said, but, I, I told them, you know, I explained it to them.

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They said, yeah.

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And everybody said the same thing, you know?

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It's, it's amazing.

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It's amazing what we're doing.

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So, that's.

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Well, I, I second that.

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I'm very proud.

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Land, your shouts.

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Shouts to the authors of My Doom A and B.

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Now, you have to, you have to translate this.

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It's absolutely not picking up.

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Land said, shouts to the authors of My Doom A and B.

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It's much funnier when he says it, by the way.

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I'm sorry, sorry my line's bad, Plan.

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Everything is.

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Shouts to, uh, shouts to Walmart for giving me a reason to get up every morning.

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Shouts to Walmart for giving him a reason to get up every morning.

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Uh, shouts to everybody, um.

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This is, Blaine, Duel, you should be a relay operator.

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It's gonna say that.

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Okay, you're saying, Blaine?

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Uh, shouts to everybody, uh, that really makes us the greatest community in the world.

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Yeah, and shouts to everybody that makes us the greatest community in the world.

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I love you guys.

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No doubt.

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Oh, and, um, I second all of that, especially again to the Arizona crew, um, undertaking something

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that hopefully will turn out to be very, very cool.

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I know it's definitely in good hands, so definitely second that.

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Um, on a, on a more silly note, uh, Terry Tate, office linebacker, is back in business.

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And, yeah, I know you don't know who that is, but the listeners might check that out.

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TerryTate.com.

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And, yeah, yeah, never mind.

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You'll find out later.

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And to, uh, my other shout-out is for tonight's, let's actually segue into tonight's closing music.

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Uh, it's a beatbox by FX.

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E-F-F-E-X.

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I'm gonna put the link up again in the show notes as well.

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Go check this guy out.

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He's incredible.

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In-credible.

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Your other bass beatbox.

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Yeah, this guy does some incredible, he's got 20 different sounds going on at the same

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time.

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It's amazing.

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I'll come out of this pie hole.

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Exactly.

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Thank you for that description.

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He's done.

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Um, but listen, the guy's got skills.

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I don't know if you don't, you don't recognize it or whatever, but the dude's got talent.

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Dude, I think your beatbox's shit was good, man.

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Oh, please.

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Guitar, I love it.

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Yeah.

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Has it been released?

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No, and it never will.

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Oh, no, you've got to release that.

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Dude, don't even, now see, now you put me on the radio and people know, no.

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That's never going to.

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It was good.

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It was really good.

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It's never, never going to see the light of day.

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Says the bland.

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I dropped a couple beats for bland, and I hope those don't ever see the light of day.

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But if they do, yeah, right.

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Anyway, uh, so, yeah, shouts to the guy doing our closing music.

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I'll put that, and there's a video on the site.

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I'm going to play the audio.

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I don't know if it'll do it justice.

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But you kind of have to see him to realize that this is real, and it is coming out of

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his mouth, and these are the noise he's making, so, um, go check out the video and download

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it and watch it, um, and email us back.

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We said it earlier, I'll say it again, radio at binrev.com.

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And, Dool, thank you for being on the show.

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Bland, no one can hear you, but they can hear me thanking you for being on the show

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as well.

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Excellent.

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And we will close it out.

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I'll let you guys close out the show.

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Can you handle, can you handle the closing phrase?

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Can you handle the power of closing out the show?

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Absolutely.

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I'm sure you can.

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Now, wait a minute, they're not going to be able to hear Bland, though.

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I'll, I'll, uh, I'll translate.

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Okay.

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Number one, engage.

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Number one, engage.

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Uh, see you same hack times.

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Same hack channel, Bland says.

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Same hack channel.

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Peace out.

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Mate.

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Let me hear you say, I'm alright.

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I'm alright.

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Let me hear you say, I'm alright.

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Let me hear you say, I'm alright.

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I'm alright.

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Let me hear you say,

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Rack theater, rack theater, rack theater, rack theater.

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One, two, one, one, one.

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Dumb?

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Dumb.

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Dumb.

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Alright.

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All right.

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End of crack, end of crack, end of crack!

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That's me, that's me, that's me, that's me.

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End of crack!

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End of crack!

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H-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h!

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Watered, dwind, dwind, dwind!

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I watersh-hd!

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There you go, let me get, he-eh, behind me!

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Get, woh, chus, chus, chus!

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OH, doğru!

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Nobody get behind me

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Nobody get behind me

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Nobody get behind me

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Nobody get behind me

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Nobody get behind me

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If your mother only knew

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If your mother only knew

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She'd probably throw you out her home

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You'd probably be up on a park bench all alone

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If your mother only knew

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And here's the tricky part

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The beat and the chorus

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At the same time

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If your mother only knew

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Now that's...

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Now that's...

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Now...

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Now...

