WEBVTT

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This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers

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I see in binary, I speak source code

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Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you and a fag pose

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In your digital stance, getting firewalled hoe

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Cause I'm riding the net in my six foe

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I was a dick with my 56

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Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable

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On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo

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On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a Nero

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In a flash, I'll sue you on burning dreamcast

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You need some ISOs? Let me through my hard drive rifle

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Our exchange you could never stifle

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In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug

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I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z

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Your CG, it's all gonna be free

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Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely

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You feel that rattle in your bones when I tell you we just hacked out Jones

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And NASDAQ, leave your fight on your back

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals

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Serial code, source code, ISO, RAM, SIP, SIS

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack

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This is Binary Revolution Radio

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I am StankDawg and I am joined today on episode 32 by our good friend Rax

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Rax, say hello to the people

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Hey what's up everyone

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And we are coming to you today, February 10th

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Well today is not February 10th, but as far as you know it is

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February 10th we are streaming this episode

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And I have one email that I want to jump on quickly

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And then we've got a lot of stuff to go into

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So let's jump right into the first email

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Which is from Palladir, I believe

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D-Y-R, I guess that's pronounced

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Very simple question that says

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Where does Binary Revolution broadcast from?

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Now

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Well technically it's not a broadcast, right?

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It's a unicast

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Right, and I guess

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I'm not sure what he really means

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If he's asking whether we actually do broadcast

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Over a radio station somewhere

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Then we don't

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We don't broadcast from anywhere, technically

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But where are we originating from?

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Where are we streaming from?

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Where are we shoutcasting from?

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Whatever terminology, proper terminology you want to use

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First of all

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We had episode 7 it was

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With Duel and I

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Where we talked about

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How we put the radio show together

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And all the steps and stages

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And how we do it

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But the short summary version

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Is that we stream everything from everywhere

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We're on the phone

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On the phone right now

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And technically I'm in Florida

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So if you want to say

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Where does it stream from?

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Streams from Florida

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But it also

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Comes from New Mexico

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From New York

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From Texas

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From all kinds of different places

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So

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From a spider hole

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Somewhere in an undisclosed location

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In the Middle East

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I don't

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No, I don't think we've done that yet

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Okay

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But I'm not ruling it out

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I mean

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You know, it's a possibility

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I don't know if the technology

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Is quite there yet

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But

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So

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There's your answer

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We don't really broadcast anywhere

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But we are homed

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I guess

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I don't even know if I should say that

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Because there isn't really a home

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Our home is

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BinRev.com

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It's all ephemeral

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It's all just zeros and ones

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Exactly

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Exactly

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So

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There you go

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Paladir

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Thank you for the question

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Again, check out episode 7

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On the

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Older episodes page

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On the archives

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The quote classics

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If you want to refer to them as such

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Or the old junk

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Whatever you want to call it

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I'm okay with that

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The only

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The other thing I wanted to talk about

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With you particularly

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Because you and I

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Have an interesting

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Look at this

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Is the Super Bowl

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The Super Bowl has streamed

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Since the last time

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You and I were talked

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And one of the things

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That everybody looks forward to

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For the Super Bowl

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Is

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Not the football

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But the commercials

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During the Super Bowl

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That's the only thing

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I watch it for

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As a matter of fact

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A lot of my geek friends

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I mean

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We've been doing this

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For about four years

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We just get together

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You know

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Have some food

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Have some drinks

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And turn the thing down

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When the game is on

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And turn it up

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For the commercials

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And of course

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The halftime show

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But we won't go there

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Actually I do

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I like football

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So

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But the game

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Didn't get interesting

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Until the end

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So I kind of was

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Back and forth between it

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And yes

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I kind of did the same thing

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When it went to commercial

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I would watch

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Some of the commercials

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I don't know

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If this is a general

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Overall phenomenon

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Is happening

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On all of television

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But on this Super Bowl

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I guess more than any other

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More than anything recently

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It really stood out to me

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How many more

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Tech related commercials

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There were out there

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I mean obviously

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There's been more and more

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Because it's becoming

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A bigger part of our society

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And our world

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That we live in

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But

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I really felt this time

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That

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Well especially like

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There were a lot of

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Crossover commercials

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Like for example

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The one that

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A lot of people

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Were curious

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And came out

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Was the Pepsi

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And iTunes commercial

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So you've got Pepsi

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Who of course

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Has been making commercials

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For years and years

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But combining with iTunes

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You know

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They're starting to do

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These partnerships

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Where they capitalize

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On each other's names

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Yeah but let's face it

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The most

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Probably the most

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Famous commercial

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Of all time

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Was aired only once

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It was aired

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At the Super Bowl

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In 1984

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And it was the

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Famous Apple

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1984 commercial

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And it

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Amazingly

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That it was only

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Aired once

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I mean that

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That to me

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Is amazing

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Yeah but I mean

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It's been floating

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Around forever

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You know

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Yeah it has

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But I mean

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It actually

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In a weird way

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Had more of an impact

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Because it only

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Aired once

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It gave it

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Like a mystique

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Has kind of a mystique

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About it

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Because of that

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Yeah

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You know

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And that much

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More effective

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It was so

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Powerful of a commercial

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That they only

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Needed to show it

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Once

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And that was it

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Well it's just

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You know

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It's marketing 101

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You know

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You have

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You make it

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Something exclusive

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And you know

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You either make it

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Available everywhere

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And try to get

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Saturation that way

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Or you make it

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Exclusive

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And you try to

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Buy Mindshare

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From that exclusivity

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Right

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But you know

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I think a few years ago

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Before you know

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The dot com bust

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You know

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You had the

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You had

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You know

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Pets.com

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With the famous

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Sock puppet

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He even came back

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Kind of

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I think it was

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Last year

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I guess

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He came back

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And made a

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You know

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Someone pulled him

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Out of mothballs

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And used it again

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But you know

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All the monster.com

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Commercials

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All the e-trade

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Everything else

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And I think

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A few years ago

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Actually it was

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More technology

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Related than now

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The biggest thing

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I noticed

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This is probably

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Every year

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But this is

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Fresh in my mind

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Was all the

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Budweiser commercials

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Oh that's

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Definitely

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Every year

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Every year

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But now

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Coolest commercials

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I think

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The funniest

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Was

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And I missed it

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Because I was

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Going to the can

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But someone

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Had described it

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To me

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About the couple

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I guess

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And that horse

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Drawn carriage

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And the candle

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And the

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The flatulent horse

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The horse flatulence

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Yes exactly

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But aside from that

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I think the coolest

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Commercials were

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For the Ford GT40

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And I actually

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Got a chance

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To see that

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The Ford GT40

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In person

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At the Detroit

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Auto Show

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A couple of weeks

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Back

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Right

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We talked about

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That

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Yeah

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There was another

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Budweiser commercial

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With the donkey

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That I kind of liked

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I thought that was

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A cute commercial

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That was nice

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Yeah they were

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Talking about that

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On NPR

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They had some

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Media analyst

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On NPR

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And said you know

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It was great

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It was funny

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And everything else

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And it would have

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Been good just

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Kind of as a

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Parody of itself

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If it didn't have

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It went just a

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Little bit too far

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When it had that

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Extra platitude

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Of the donkey

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Actually becoming

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You know one of

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The Clyde sales

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I think it was

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Funny as heck

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You know

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I even got hair

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Extensions

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You see this donkey

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With the hairy feet

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And stuff

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That was great

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But

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That was good

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But yeah

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I don't know

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There's nothing

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Particularly

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You know

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Superly

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Amazingly striking

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And as far as

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The halftime show

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I mean come on

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That is planned

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The pictures are

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All over the net

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If you look at that

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Where Janet Jackson

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Claims that

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The front of her

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Boostier was ripped

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Well you look at that

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Because they do have

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Up close and personal

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Pictures of that

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There's no little

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Tatters of red cloth

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Around the edge

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So that was

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Completely planned

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You know

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Yeah I mean

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It absolutely

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It so obviously

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Was

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The only question

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Still outstanding

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To me

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Is

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I have no doubt

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That she knew

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About it

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But did he

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And I really think

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He had to have

08:36.060 --> 08:36.760
Known about it too

08:36.760 --> 08:37.720
He still claims

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I don't know

08:38.560 --> 08:39.080
If you watched

08:39.080 --> 08:39.720
The Grammys

08:39.720 --> 08:40.880
But the Grammys

08:40.880 --> 08:41.880
Justin came up

08:41.880 --> 08:43.080
And won some award

08:43.080 --> 08:43.660
I don't know what

08:43.660 --> 08:44.600
And said

08:44.600 --> 08:45.900
That it was an accident

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And he apologizes

08:46.760 --> 08:47.480
If anyone was

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Offended

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And I don't know

08:49.800 --> 08:50.600
If I buy that

08:50.600 --> 08:51.600
Part of it completely

08:51.600 --> 08:52.460
Yeah well

08:52.460 --> 08:52.820
You know

08:52.820 --> 08:55.160
It doesn't really

08:55.160 --> 08:55.860
Matter that much

08:55.860 --> 08:56.140
To me

08:56.140 --> 08:57.560
Yeah but it's

08:57.560 --> 08:58.680
Inappropriate

08:58.680 --> 08:59.220
Kind of like

08:59.220 --> 09:00.700
Think about it

09:00.700 --> 09:01.440
We went from

09:01.440 --> 09:02.360
30 years ago

09:02.360 --> 09:03.140
Or 40 years ago

09:03.140 --> 09:03.620
Now I guess

09:03.620 --> 09:04.060
When the Beatles

09:04.060 --> 09:05.460
Were on TV

09:05.460 --> 09:07.000
That's just been

09:07.000 --> 09:07.400
Recently

09:07.400 --> 09:07.780
You know

09:07.780 --> 09:09.040
And the

09:09.040 --> 09:10.260
Controversial song

09:10.260 --> 09:10.740
Is I Want to

09:10.740 --> 09:11.560
Hold Your Hand

09:11.560 --> 09:12.220
Okay that was

09:12.220 --> 09:13.000
Really racy

09:13.000 --> 09:13.520
I Want to

09:13.520 --> 09:14.280
Hold Your Hand

09:14.280 --> 09:14.940
Oh my gosh

09:14.940 --> 09:15.720
You know

09:15.720 --> 09:16.360
Fast forward

09:16.360 --> 09:17.380
About 35 years

09:17.380 --> 09:18.100
You know

09:18.100 --> 09:19.000
Back five years ago

09:19.000 --> 09:19.400
Or whatever

09:19.400 --> 09:20.300
With you know

09:20.300 --> 09:21.020
Nine inch nails

09:21.020 --> 09:21.440
I want to

09:21.440 --> 09:22.460
You like an animal

09:22.460 --> 09:22.880
Okay

09:22.880 --> 09:23.880
So we've come

09:23.880 --> 09:25.060
In 30-40 years

09:25.060 --> 09:25.640
From I Want to

09:25.640 --> 09:26.160
Hold Your Hand

09:26.160 --> 09:26.720
Being racy

09:26.720 --> 09:27.920
To you know

09:27.920 --> 09:29.540
The other one

09:29.540 --> 09:30.620
I think his song

09:30.620 --> 09:31.140
Is actually called

09:31.140 --> 09:31.540
Closer

09:31.540 --> 09:32.600
So you've come

09:32.600 --> 09:32.980
You know

09:32.980 --> 09:33.420
That far

09:33.420 --> 09:34.720
So keep pushing

09:34.720 --> 09:35.080
The edge

09:35.080 --> 09:35.540
Keep trying

09:35.540 --> 09:35.980
To make things

09:35.980 --> 09:36.420
Shocking

09:36.420 --> 09:36.920
Where is it

09:36.920 --> 09:37.320
Going to end

09:37.320 --> 09:38.420
I don't know

09:38.420 --> 09:38.860
I don't know

09:38.860 --> 09:39.700
But it's

09:39.700 --> 09:40.060
You know

09:40.060 --> 09:40.380
It's

09:40.380 --> 09:41.320
I guess

09:41.320 --> 09:41.800
We're just

09:41.800 --> 09:42.880
Becoming so jaded

09:42.880 --> 09:44.180
And there's

09:44.180 --> 09:45.180
Literally nothing

09:45.180 --> 09:46.060
Virtually nothing

09:46.060 --> 09:46.920
Shocking anymore

09:46.920 --> 09:48.840
So Hannah tried

09:48.840 --> 09:49.480
To push the edge

09:49.480 --> 09:49.980
A little bit

09:49.980 --> 09:51.200
And you know

09:51.200 --> 09:52.240
Obviously some backlash

09:52.240 --> 09:52.660
But

09:52.660 --> 09:53.140
Right

09:53.140 --> 09:53.480
You know

09:53.480 --> 09:54.680
She'd lose a lot

09:54.680 --> 09:55.060
Of respect

09:55.060 --> 09:55.720
For some of those

09:55.720 --> 09:56.460
You know

09:56.460 --> 09:57.720
What is simply

09:57.720 --> 09:58.280
Nothing more

09:58.280 --> 09:59.360
Than a publicity stunt

09:59.360 --> 09:59.740
You know

09:59.740 --> 10:00.160
Yeah

10:00.160 --> 10:01.280
But anyway

10:01.280 --> 10:01.760
So let's talk

10:01.760 --> 10:02.780
Some technology stuff

10:02.780 --> 10:03.580
Well actually

10:03.580 --> 10:04.660
It's funny

10:04.660 --> 10:05.780
Let's tie this

10:05.780 --> 10:06.420
Into technology

10:06.420 --> 10:07.420
Because I assume

10:07.420 --> 10:08.440
You've probably heard

10:08.440 --> 10:09.040
On the news

10:09.040 --> 10:09.840
As well as I have

10:09.840 --> 10:11.160
That that was

10:11.160 --> 10:12.020
The number one

10:12.020 --> 10:12.740
Most searched

10:12.740 --> 10:14.320
Thing of all time

10:14.320 --> 10:14.840
Was the internet

10:14.840 --> 10:15.520
Halftime show

10:15.520 --> 10:15.940
After that

10:15.940 --> 10:16.800
That controversy

10:16.800 --> 10:18.200
As much as

10:18.200 --> 10:18.940
It was again

10:18.940 --> 10:19.560
Inappropriate

10:19.560 --> 10:20.080
The same way

10:20.080 --> 10:20.860
I put a disclaimer

10:20.860 --> 10:21.300
On the top

10:21.300 --> 10:21.980
Of our show notes

10:21.980 --> 10:23.460
A reminder to myself

10:23.460 --> 10:24.060
To cut out

10:24.060 --> 10:24.860
The foul language

10:24.860 --> 10:25.640
Because it's really

10:25.640 --> 10:26.220
Not appropriate

10:26.220 --> 10:26.660
I want to try

10:26.660 --> 10:27.640
To keep it controlled

10:27.640 --> 10:29.100
I never can stop it

10:29.100 --> 10:29.780
If I feel

10:29.780 --> 10:31.480
Incensed about something

10:31.480 --> 10:32.520
I want to say

10:32.520 --> 10:33.380
What I need to say

10:33.380 --> 10:34.240
I sometimes

10:34.240 --> 10:35.120
Will let them out

10:35.120 --> 10:36.580
But I don't want

10:36.580 --> 10:37.220
To censor myself

10:37.220 --> 10:38.380
But I try to keep

10:38.380 --> 10:39.260
It reined in

10:39.260 --> 10:40.600
And the same thing

10:40.600 --> 10:41.280
With the Super Bowl

10:41.280 --> 10:41.820
I kind of feel

10:41.820 --> 10:42.400
The same way

10:42.400 --> 10:42.620
I mean

10:42.620 --> 10:43.460
That seems inappropriate

10:43.460 --> 10:43.820
To me

10:43.820 --> 10:44.680
But the tech

10:44.680 --> 10:45.500
Relationship

10:45.500 --> 10:45.920
Is that

10:45.920 --> 10:46.600
That was

10:46.600 --> 10:47.580
The number one

10:47.580 --> 10:48.100
Most searched

10:48.100 --> 10:49.020
Item in history

10:49.020 --> 10:51.380
On the internet

10:51.380 --> 10:51.880
Yep

10:51.880 --> 10:52.500
It actually

10:52.500 --> 10:53.600
Exceeded

10:53.600 --> 10:54.640
The searching

10:54.640 --> 10:55.300
For the information

10:55.300 --> 10:55.920
On 9-11

10:55.920 --> 10:56.620
Exactly

10:56.620 --> 10:57.420
The other thing

10:57.420 --> 10:58.200
I think is interesting

10:58.200 --> 10:58.960
Is that

10:58.960 --> 11:00.460
TiVo had released

11:00.460 --> 11:02.000
That was the most

11:02.000 --> 11:03.340
Viewed thing

11:03.340 --> 11:03.760
Ever

11:03.760 --> 11:04.340
In the history

11:04.340 --> 11:04.820
Of TiVo

11:04.820 --> 11:05.080
You know

11:05.080 --> 11:06.140
Fast forwarding

11:06.140 --> 11:06.680
And reversing

11:06.680 --> 11:07.100
And whatever

11:07.100 --> 11:08.280
The scary part

11:08.280 --> 11:08.940
About that is

11:08.940 --> 11:10.100
TiVo knows

11:10.100 --> 11:10.800
Exactly what

11:10.800 --> 11:11.460
Everyone's watching

11:11.460 --> 11:11.960
That's what

11:11.960 --> 11:12.400
I was getting

11:12.400 --> 11:12.900
Ready to say

11:12.900 --> 11:13.560
I heard that

11:13.560 --> 11:13.960
And I don't

11:13.960 --> 11:14.720
Have a TiVo

11:14.720 --> 11:15.140
And don't know

11:15.140 --> 11:16.260
Exactly how it works

11:16.260 --> 11:16.720
But I thought

11:16.720 --> 11:17.640
It was a hard drive

11:17.640 --> 11:18.660
Type situation

11:18.660 --> 11:19.720
Where you store

11:19.720 --> 11:20.780
Stuff on your TiVo

11:20.780 --> 11:21.260
Locally

11:21.260 --> 11:23.060
And you can rewind

11:23.060 --> 11:23.820
It because it's

11:23.820 --> 11:24.440
Stored there

11:24.440 --> 11:25.340
And you can back up

11:25.340 --> 11:26.100
Skip the commercials

11:26.100 --> 11:26.760
Or whatever

11:26.760 --> 11:27.580
It is

11:27.580 --> 11:28.040
But there's

11:28.040 --> 11:28.740
How can

11:28.740 --> 11:29.720
That seems like

11:29.720 --> 11:31.260
A very huge

11:31.260 --> 11:32.040
Huge invasion

11:32.040 --> 11:32.600
Of privacy

11:32.600 --> 11:33.300
If they actually

11:33.300 --> 11:34.840
Watch and maintain

11:34.840 --> 11:35.720
Well there's obviously

11:35.720 --> 11:36.540
A feedback loop

11:36.540 --> 11:36.900
For that

11:36.900 --> 11:37.560
Second of all

11:37.560 --> 11:38.320
As far as invasion

11:38.320 --> 11:38.840
Of privacy

11:38.840 --> 11:39.900
When you sign the contract

11:39.900 --> 11:40.780
You agree to have

11:40.780 --> 11:41.940
That information released

11:41.940 --> 11:42.660
Right

11:42.660 --> 11:43.480
Allegedly

11:43.480 --> 11:45.600
It's just aggregate data

11:45.600 --> 11:46.620
So they can't identify

11:46.620 --> 11:47.360
The viewing habits

11:47.360 --> 11:48.500
Of an individual person

11:48.500 --> 11:50.160
And if you have enough

11:50.160 --> 11:51.600
I was talking to someone

11:51.600 --> 11:52.320
About this before

11:52.320 --> 11:53.520
Our 2600 meeting here

11:53.520 --> 11:54.120
I met someone

11:54.120 --> 11:55.540
At the borders

11:55.540 --> 11:56.660
But if you have enough

11:56.660 --> 11:57.720
People doing something

11:57.720 --> 11:58.800
It's basically like

11:58.800 --> 11:59.560
Hiding in a crowd

11:59.560 --> 12:00.620
So you've got

12:00.620 --> 12:01.240
How many of them

12:01.240 --> 12:02.120
Millions of people

12:02.120 --> 12:03.540
Watching the Super Bowl

12:03.540 --> 12:04.600
Literally around the world

12:04.600 --> 12:05.420
But even let's say

12:05.420 --> 12:05.780
I don't know

12:05.780 --> 12:07.240
How many TiVo owners

12:07.240 --> 12:08.020
There are out there

12:08.020 --> 12:09.060
But let's assume

12:09.060 --> 12:09.600
That you know

12:09.600 --> 12:10.300
I don't know

12:10.300 --> 12:10.660
Let's say

12:10.660 --> 12:12.080
Three quarters of a million

12:12.080 --> 12:13.360
TiVos were tuned

12:13.360 --> 12:14.220
Into the Super Bowl

12:14.220 --> 12:15.000
And watching that

12:15.000 --> 12:16.940
So identifying

12:16.940 --> 12:18.100
Just think of the volume

12:18.100 --> 12:19.360
Of data they'd have to keep

12:19.360 --> 12:20.880
And store

12:20.880 --> 12:21.640
Just to see

12:21.640 --> 12:22.740
What the viewing habits

12:22.740 --> 12:23.760
Of an individual person

12:23.760 --> 12:24.640
Would be

12:24.640 --> 12:25.340
They'd have to be

12:25.340 --> 12:26.060
Highly motivated

12:26.060 --> 12:26.640
To see what that

12:26.640 --> 12:27.520
Individual is doing

12:27.520 --> 12:29.440
It's certainly possible

12:29.440 --> 12:30.080
But again

12:30.080 --> 12:31.340
You know

12:31.340 --> 12:32.320
You have a little bit

12:32.320 --> 12:32.840
Of that ability

12:32.840 --> 12:33.900
Of hiding in plain sight

12:33.900 --> 12:34.840
But it is just

12:34.840 --> 12:35.760
In general scary

12:35.760 --> 12:36.820
Well you know

12:36.820 --> 12:38.160
Aggregate information

12:38.160 --> 12:38.980
Is one thing

12:38.980 --> 12:40.280
Looking at a general

12:40.280 --> 12:41.140
Overall number

12:41.140 --> 12:42.560
But it's scary

12:42.560 --> 12:43.600
Do they have the potential

12:43.600 --> 12:45.080
To watch an individual person

12:45.080 --> 12:45.760
Doubably

12:45.760 --> 12:46.460
If

12:46.460 --> 12:47.020
Well see

12:47.020 --> 12:48.640
I have no doubts

12:48.640 --> 12:49.140
Of it at all

12:49.140 --> 12:49.800
And what

12:49.800 --> 12:51.180
What scruples are involved

12:51.180 --> 12:52.160
What is the line

12:52.160 --> 12:52.620
Where

12:52.620 --> 12:53.780
You know

12:53.780 --> 12:54.620
What's going to stop

12:54.620 --> 12:55.120
The government

12:55.120 --> 12:56.120
Or anybody

12:56.120 --> 12:57.080
For that matter

12:57.080 --> 12:58.260
To get a summons

12:58.260 --> 12:58.720
Subpoena

12:58.720 --> 12:59.480
Saying give us

12:59.480 --> 12:59.960
The information

12:59.960 --> 13:00.740
Of what this person

13:00.740 --> 13:01.160
Watched

13:01.160 --> 13:01.900
Or what this person

13:01.900 --> 13:02.400
You know

13:02.400 --> 13:03.180
Let's take it

13:03.180 --> 13:03.660
Let's take it

13:03.660 --> 13:04.300
To the next level

13:04.300 --> 13:04.900
Beyond that

13:04.900 --> 13:05.300
Okay

13:05.300 --> 13:06.580
Relating

13:06.580 --> 13:07.680
You can relate this

13:07.680 --> 13:08.960
To the MPAA

13:08.960 --> 13:10.080
The RIAA

13:10.080 --> 13:10.680
Any of the things

13:10.680 --> 13:11.220
Like that

13:11.220 --> 13:12.200
But every

13:12.200 --> 13:13.400
Bit of data

13:13.400 --> 13:14.560
That you're getting

13:14.560 --> 13:16.600
Through your

13:16.600 --> 13:17.260
Internet connection

13:17.260 --> 13:18.300
From your ISP

13:18.300 --> 13:19.320
Unless you're

13:19.320 --> 13:20.260
Tunneling it somewhere

13:20.260 --> 13:21.620
All that can be

13:21.620 --> 13:22.040
Monitored

13:22.040 --> 13:23.380
Every IP address

13:23.380 --> 13:24.580
Every picture you see

13:24.580 --> 13:25.900
Every website you go to

13:25.900 --> 13:27.060
That can all be

13:27.060 --> 13:27.500
Monitored

13:27.500 --> 13:28.860
Right

13:28.860 --> 13:29.280
And that

13:29.280 --> 13:30.080
That to me

13:30.080 --> 13:30.960
Is more like

13:30.960 --> 13:31.660
What you said earlier

13:31.660 --> 13:32.840
About hiding in a crowd

13:32.840 --> 13:33.380
Right

13:33.380 --> 13:33.900
But again

13:33.900 --> 13:34.780
If there's

13:34.780 --> 13:35.100
You know

13:35.100 --> 13:36.180
If they figure

13:36.180 --> 13:36.440
Okay

13:36.440 --> 13:37.080
Stank Dog

13:37.080 --> 13:37.500
Is a

13:37.500 --> 13:38.700
Mr. Dog

13:38.700 --> 13:39.100
Is a

13:39.100 --> 13:39.560
You know

13:39.560 --> 13:40.720
Threat to national security

13:40.720 --> 13:41.600
They'll start monitoring

13:41.600 --> 13:42.320
What Mr. Dog

13:42.320 --> 13:43.120
Is doing on the internet

13:43.120 --> 13:43.760
Right

13:43.760 --> 13:45.020
Well

13:45.020 --> 13:46.260
You know

13:46.260 --> 13:47.240
And also

13:47.240 --> 13:48.200
But it kind of

13:48.200 --> 13:48.960
It kind of worries me

13:48.960 --> 13:49.840
What you said a minute ago

13:49.840 --> 13:50.980
About you know that

13:50.980 --> 13:51.980
When you sign the contract

13:51.980 --> 13:52.900
Well your typical

13:52.900 --> 13:53.780
Everyday person

13:53.780 --> 13:55.220
The majority of them

13:55.220 --> 13:56.320
And frankly

13:56.320 --> 13:57.100
I'm not above it

13:57.100 --> 13:57.760
There are some times

13:57.760 --> 13:58.300
I'm in a hurry

13:58.300 --> 13:58.880
I might not

13:58.880 --> 14:00.440
If it seems harmless enough

14:00.440 --> 14:01.260
I would probably read

14:01.260 --> 14:02.800
My TiVo information

14:02.800 --> 14:03.300
Pretty good

14:03.300 --> 14:04.040
Since I know

14:04.040 --> 14:05.540
The technology aspect

14:05.540 --> 14:06.540
But just because

14:06.540 --> 14:07.440
You sign the contract

14:07.440 --> 14:08.700
And just because

14:08.700 --> 14:09.920
They say in there

14:09.920 --> 14:10.820
That they can do it

14:10.820 --> 14:11.680
Doesn't make it right

14:11.680 --> 14:12.680
And doesn't make it okay

14:12.680 --> 14:13.700
You still have the right

14:13.700 --> 14:14.640
To be outraged

14:14.640 --> 14:15.100
And upset

14:15.100 --> 14:15.760
And offended

14:15.760 --> 14:16.580
Well you have the right

14:16.580 --> 14:17.160
To be outraged

14:17.160 --> 14:17.840
You're upset and offended

14:17.840 --> 14:18.640
You even have the right

14:18.640 --> 14:20.100
To launch a lawsuit

14:20.100 --> 14:21.300
But contract law

14:21.300 --> 14:22.580
Is such that

14:22.580 --> 14:23.040
Right

14:23.040 --> 14:24.040
Basically it's given

14:24.040 --> 14:24.940
That both parties

14:24.940 --> 14:25.760
Have the same amount

14:25.760 --> 14:26.860
Of rights and power

14:26.860 --> 14:27.700
At that time

14:27.700 --> 14:28.920
If you don't like

14:28.920 --> 14:29.800
The terms of the agreement

14:29.800 --> 14:30.780
You don't have to

14:30.780 --> 14:31.400
Sign up for it

14:31.400 --> 14:31.940
Right

14:31.940 --> 14:32.460
And actually

14:32.460 --> 14:33.120
I was going to say

14:33.120 --> 14:33.460
The opposite

14:33.460 --> 14:33.860
I was going to say

14:33.860 --> 14:34.660
You don't really have

14:34.660 --> 14:35.320
The right to sue them

14:35.320 --> 14:35.800
Well you have the right

14:35.800 --> 14:36.300
To sue them

14:36.300 --> 14:37.440
But don't expect to win

14:37.440 --> 14:38.740
Because I have studied

14:38.740 --> 14:39.440
Contract law

14:39.440 --> 14:39.820
And yes

14:39.820 --> 14:40.580
You're absolutely right

14:40.580 --> 14:41.420
You've signed it

14:41.420 --> 14:42.600
And you're pretty much

14:42.600 --> 14:43.100
You know

14:43.100 --> 14:43.660
Unless there was

14:43.660 --> 14:44.260
Something in there

14:44.260 --> 14:45.660
That was worded improperly

14:45.660 --> 14:47.000
Or some loophole

14:47.000 --> 14:47.740
Blah blah blah

14:47.740 --> 14:48.920
Without going into detail

14:48.920 --> 14:49.180
Yeah

14:49.180 --> 14:50.100
When you sign that contract

14:50.100 --> 14:51.080
You're agreeing to it

14:51.080 --> 14:51.680
And you kind of

14:51.680 --> 14:52.680
Waive those rights

14:52.680 --> 14:53.120
Right

14:53.120 --> 14:54.280
But that having been said

14:54.280 --> 14:55.300
That's what class action

14:55.300 --> 14:56.340
Lawsuits are all about

14:56.340 --> 14:57.300
A bunch of people say

14:57.300 --> 14:58.440
Hey we're being ripped off

14:58.440 --> 14:59.680
This is unfair practice

14:59.680 --> 15:00.840
And you know

15:00.840 --> 15:02.080
Whether it's leasing a car

15:02.080 --> 15:03.300
Or some credit card things

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Those are a couple

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That I can think of

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That I've you know

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Gotten information

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About stuff

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For a class action

15:10.080 --> 15:11.020
Lawsuit that was developed

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Because of those practices

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Those terms and conditions

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Of the contract

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Were unfair

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Absolutely

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Absolutely right

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Okay

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Oh

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Another commercial

15:22.240 --> 15:22.960
That I did actually

15:22.960 --> 15:23.560
Want to bring up

15:23.560 --> 15:23.900
Was

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And it's been on the web

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For quite a while

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And I think we've actually

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Seen it on

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Aired a few times

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But airing it

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During the Super Bowl

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Was another big

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Important step for me

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And that was the

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IBM Linux commercial

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Yeah

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And they did not show

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The full long version

15:38.260 --> 15:39.480
I really really wish

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They would have shown

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A good two minute long

15:41.760 --> 15:42.780
Well wait a minute

15:42.780 --> 15:43.240
Think about it

15:43.240 --> 15:43.860
It was two and a half

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Million dollars

15:44.680 --> 15:45.460
For thirty seconds

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Okay

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I know

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But look at Budweiser

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How many of those

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Thirty second blocks

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Did they buy

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Yeah there's

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I think there's

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Less overhead

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In producing beer

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Than there is

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In producing hardware

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But go ahead

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I think

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I think IBM

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Had more than one

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Of those thirty second slots

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So instead of airing

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I don't know how many

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We'd have to look it up

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And verify

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And I'm sure we could do that

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If we were so motivated

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If they had five thirty minute ones

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I think it could have been better

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To air one big

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Two and a half

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Minute

16:10.040 --> 16:11.640
Long version

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Instead of five

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Thirty minute

16:12.960 --> 16:14.040
Or thirty second

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Excuse me

16:14.740 --> 16:16.220
Thirty second short versions

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Well they might not have had that

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As an option either

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Well that's

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Yeah that's absolutely true as well

16:20.820 --> 16:22.800
But regardless of the fact

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Linux commercial on the air

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IBM backing it

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So you got a big name of IBM

16:27.700 --> 16:29.040
Saying Linux is okay

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Which again

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This is not new

16:30.120 --> 16:31.340
But it's new

16:31.340 --> 16:32.720
To that audience

16:32.720 --> 16:33.520
The Superbowl

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Watching audience

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Your everyday

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At home person

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Watching the Superbowl

16:37.000 --> 16:37.960
Has probably

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And might not

16:38.640 --> 16:39.440
Have been exposed

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To those commercials

16:40.200 --> 16:41.800
And realized

16:41.800 --> 16:42.360
That hey

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IBM says Linux is okay

16:44.560 --> 16:45.260
You know

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So I think

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That was a very

16:47.340 --> 16:48.180
Very good

16:48.180 --> 16:49.220
Positive move

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And a great

16:49.800 --> 16:50.980
Great use of

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Of commercial time

16:52.460 --> 16:54.460
As opposed to

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And

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I

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I find them as

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Entertaining as anyone else

16:58.200 --> 16:59.360
But guess what

16:59.360 --> 17:00.460
The Budweiser commercials

17:00.460 --> 17:01.640
Are they really selling

17:01.640 --> 17:02.820
Budweiser

17:02.820 --> 17:03.300
I mean

17:03.300 --> 17:04.720
Budweiser's gonna

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One of the

17:05.560 --> 17:05.880
Again

17:05.880 --> 17:07.140
I was listening to NPR today

17:07.140 --> 17:08.200
And they were talking about it

17:08.200 --> 17:09.460
And that donkey commercial

17:09.460 --> 17:10.060
Specifically

17:10.060 --> 17:11.400
That was reinforcing

17:11.400 --> 17:12.680
The quote unquote

17:12.680 --> 17:13.160
Brand

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Of those

17:14.040 --> 17:15.060
Lightestale horses

17:15.060 --> 17:15.720
Right

17:15.720 --> 17:16.080
Right

17:16.080 --> 17:16.560
And I mean

17:16.560 --> 17:17.320
Those things are

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Part of it is

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You know

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Building the brand name

17:19.360 --> 17:20.340
Building the recognition

17:20.340 --> 17:21.500
Building the mystique

17:21.500 --> 17:22.500
You know

17:22.500 --> 17:23.420
Building all that

17:23.420 --> 17:24.240
Kind of stuff

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Is what makes

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You know

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That's important to them

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So you'll think of Bud

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Rather than

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You know

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Some other

17:29.600 --> 17:30.800
Watered down

17:30.800 --> 17:33.840
Barley and malt

17:33.840 --> 17:34.240
And hops

17:34.240 --> 17:34.500
You know

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Me I drink Guinness

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If I drink beer

17:36.040 --> 17:36.700
I drink Guinness

17:36.700 --> 17:36.940
But

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Endorsement

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How much do you get

17:39.940 --> 17:40.520
Paid for that?

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I probably won't even

17:43.120 --> 17:44.060
Get a free pint out of it

17:44.060 --> 17:44.420
But anyway

17:44.420 --> 17:45.080
That's another story

17:45.080 --> 17:47.160
I've talked

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By the way

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This is not the first

17:48.380 --> 17:48.840
I've done this

17:48.840 --> 17:49.420
I've talked about

17:49.420 --> 17:50.100
Drinking 180

17:50.100 --> 17:51.120
Before on the air

17:51.120 --> 17:52.520
On RFA

17:52.520 --> 17:53.480
I used to talk about that

17:53.480 --> 17:54.200
But I don't think

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You can get 180 anymore

17:55.180 --> 17:55.780
I'm kind of bummed

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Hmm

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I don't know

17:57.700 --> 17:58.380
I bet you probably

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You've got to go

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To the right places man

17:59.680 --> 18:00.100
You've got to get

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Down the hood

18:00.680 --> 18:02.400
Yeah I've been trying

18:02.400 --> 18:02.800
Anyway

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Anyway

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Yeah this

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See the thing about it is

18:08.560 --> 18:08.920
Bud

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I have a theory

18:10.180 --> 18:11.640
I have a theory

18:11.640 --> 18:13.020
And I really wanted

18:13.020 --> 18:13.700
To actually do something

18:13.700 --> 18:14.480
Now I wanted to do

18:14.480 --> 18:16.060
An analysis on this

18:16.060 --> 18:16.700
Or maybe even write

18:16.700 --> 18:17.460
A thesis on this

18:17.460 --> 18:18.040
For college

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And never got the opportunity

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And of course

18:20.280 --> 18:21.220
My free time is limited

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But I have a theory

18:22.560 --> 18:23.960
Budweiser

18:23.960 --> 18:25.580
In addition to the

18:25.580 --> 18:26.360
Like you said

18:26.360 --> 18:27.580
The brand recognition

18:27.580 --> 18:28.360
They're getting that name

18:28.360 --> 18:28.660
Out there

18:28.660 --> 18:29.700
And they're burning it

18:29.700 --> 18:31.040
Into your mind

18:31.040 --> 18:31.880
Repetition

18:31.880 --> 18:33.060
Saying the name

18:33.060 --> 18:33.880
Over and over again

18:33.880 --> 18:34.740
It's like on the radio

18:34.740 --> 18:36.240
They have those commercials

18:36.240 --> 18:37.040
Call 1-800

18:37.040 --> 18:37.700
Blah blah blah

18:37.700 --> 18:38.480
To find out

18:38.480 --> 18:39.000
About more

18:39.000 --> 18:39.660
1-800

18:39.660 --> 18:40.700
That number again

18:40.700 --> 18:41.940
Is when they repeat it

18:41.940 --> 18:43.640
To ingrain that

18:43.640 --> 18:44.220
Into your mind

18:44.220 --> 18:44.620
And that's what

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Budweiser's doing

18:45.560 --> 18:46.480
That's the

18:46.480 --> 18:47.780
I guess I shouldn't say

18:47.780 --> 18:48.160
Obvious

18:48.160 --> 18:49.060
But that's the main

18:49.060 --> 18:50.080
Point of some of these

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When they're not

18:50.480 --> 18:51.120
Actually showing

18:51.120 --> 18:53.280
Or pitching the product

18:53.280 --> 18:54.660
Because we know

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What their product is

18:55.520 --> 18:56.240
They're Budweiser

18:56.240 --> 18:57.340
They're a huge name

18:57.340 --> 18:58.100
They're an absolute

18:58.100 --> 18:59.380
Giant in the industry

18:59.380 --> 18:59.640
You know

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They don't have to

19:00.760 --> 19:01.380
Come out and pimp

19:01.380 --> 19:02.120
The product

19:02.120 --> 19:03.360
Same thing with Pepsi

19:03.360 --> 19:03.940
And some of those

19:03.940 --> 19:04.880
Let's just get some

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Celebrities

19:05.900 --> 19:06.620
Throw them on TV

19:06.620 --> 19:07.360
To get attention

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To put their name

19:08.840 --> 19:09.600
In people's head

19:09.600 --> 19:10.540
Well I have another

19:10.540 --> 19:11.660
Theory with Budweiser

19:11.660 --> 19:12.340
And I think it's

19:12.340 --> 19:13.180
A very interesting

19:13.180 --> 19:15.460
I may be way off

19:15.460 --> 19:16.560
Another conspiracy thing

19:16.560 --> 19:18.140
But I think

19:18.140 --> 19:19.120
They are actually

19:19.120 --> 19:20.200
Not only doing it

19:20.200 --> 19:21.180
For the name

19:21.180 --> 19:22.260
Recognition factor

19:22.260 --> 19:23.940
I think they're doing it

19:23.940 --> 19:24.900
And treating it

19:24.900 --> 19:25.800
As a product

19:25.800 --> 19:27.140
Because now

19:27.140 --> 19:28.260
They can sell

19:28.260 --> 19:29.280
And I know it sounds

19:29.280 --> 19:29.840
Silly but

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All I'm going to say

19:30.860 --> 19:32.000
Is the Budweiser frogs

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They can sell

19:33.500 --> 19:34.060
T-shirts

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They can sell

19:34.980 --> 19:35.900
Stuffed frogs

19:35.900 --> 19:36.660
They can sell

19:36.660 --> 19:38.360
Donkeys and stuff

19:38.360 --> 19:38.700
Like that

19:38.700 --> 19:39.380
They are not

19:39.380 --> 19:40.380
Treating it only

19:40.380 --> 19:40.940
And I think

19:40.940 --> 19:41.440
It's actually

19:41.440 --> 19:41.880
I've got to say

19:41.880 --> 19:42.660
It's very smart

19:42.660 --> 19:43.740
It's a very smart move

19:43.740 --> 19:44.540
They're not only

19:44.540 --> 19:45.560
Selling Budweiser

19:45.560 --> 19:46.260
As a name

19:46.260 --> 19:47.560
As brand recognition

19:47.560 --> 19:48.660
But they're also

19:48.660 --> 19:50.700
Selling clothing

19:50.700 --> 19:51.880
And caps

19:51.880 --> 19:52.720
And hats

19:52.720 --> 19:54.100
And stuffed animals

19:54.100 --> 19:55.620
And download

19:55.620 --> 19:56.540
Screen savers

19:56.540 --> 19:57.180
And you know

19:57.180 --> 19:58.180
Selling screen savers

19:58.180 --> 19:58.660
And stuff like

19:58.660 --> 19:59.820
They're actually

19:59.820 --> 20:01.380
Making money

20:01.380 --> 20:02.620
Off of

20:02.620 --> 20:03.700
The money they spend

20:03.700 --> 20:04.540
On commercials

20:04.540 --> 20:05.180
Well sure

20:05.180 --> 20:07.580
And I think

20:07.580 --> 20:08.060
That's really

20:08.060 --> 20:08.840
Something unique

20:08.840 --> 20:10.160
Not unique to them

20:10.160 --> 20:10.620
But I think

20:10.620 --> 20:11.440
They are the best

20:11.440 --> 20:11.960
At it

20:11.960 --> 20:12.820
Budweiser

20:12.820 --> 20:13.840
Well I mean

20:13.840 --> 20:14.860
You can look

20:14.860 --> 20:15.380
At any of the things

20:15.380 --> 20:15.920
Why do you think

20:15.920 --> 20:18.300
All the Home Depots

20:18.300 --> 20:19.040
And Marlboro

20:19.040 --> 20:19.740
And that all

20:19.740 --> 20:20.160
Sponsors

20:20.160 --> 20:20.600
And NASCAR

20:20.600 --> 20:20.960
So they get

20:20.960 --> 20:21.780
Their little patch there

20:21.780 --> 20:23.180
But they make

20:23.180 --> 20:24.220
A boatload of money

20:24.220 --> 20:25.060
Selling like you said

20:25.060 --> 20:25.440
The hats

20:25.440 --> 20:26.100
The t-shirts

20:26.100 --> 20:27.020
You know

20:27.020 --> 20:27.720
You name it

20:27.720 --> 20:29.720
But you know

20:29.720 --> 20:31.260
So all those things

20:31.260 --> 20:31.840
End up becoming

20:31.840 --> 20:32.500
A profit center

20:32.500 --> 20:33.100
For them as well

20:33.100 --> 20:33.600
Absolutely

20:33.600 --> 20:34.300
I don't think

20:34.300 --> 20:34.960
There's any conspiracy

20:34.960 --> 20:35.760
About that at all

20:35.760 --> 20:36.360
I mean that's just

20:36.360 --> 20:37.440
A statement of fact

20:37.440 --> 20:37.720
You know

20:37.720 --> 20:38.280
Once you've got

20:38.280 --> 20:38.920
Enough people

20:38.920 --> 20:40.160
Liking something

20:40.160 --> 20:40.560
You know

20:40.560 --> 20:41.500
I don't pick

20:41.500 --> 20:42.340
Donna Karan

20:42.340 --> 20:42.820
Clothing

20:42.820 --> 20:43.380
Or you know

20:43.380 --> 20:45.200
I don't know

20:45.200 --> 20:45.520
Any of these

20:45.520 --> 20:46.140
Other designers

20:46.140 --> 20:46.860
Ralph Lauren

20:46.860 --> 20:47.520
And all that

20:47.520 --> 20:47.920
Other stuff

20:47.920 --> 20:48.860
I mean the only

20:48.860 --> 20:49.380
Thing that's making

20:49.380 --> 20:50.060
Their stuff

20:50.060 --> 20:50.660
Different than

20:50.660 --> 20:51.220
Anything else

20:51.220 --> 20:51.940
Is just that

20:51.940 --> 20:52.560
Particular name

20:52.560 --> 20:52.860
On it

20:52.860 --> 20:54.040
So it's again

20:54.040 --> 20:54.840
Back to marketing

20:54.840 --> 20:55.180
101

20:55.180 --> 20:55.740
You know

20:55.740 --> 20:58.220
You make a

20:58.220 --> 20:59.380
Specific brand name

20:59.380 --> 21:00.260
And you give

21:00.260 --> 21:00.800
The perception

21:00.800 --> 21:01.920
That that's

21:01.920 --> 21:02.600
More important

21:02.600 --> 21:03.740
Than another one

21:03.740 --> 21:05.020
And people are

21:05.020 --> 21:05.480
Willing to pay

21:05.480 --> 21:06.100
For it

21:06.100 --> 21:06.720
Which actually

21:06.720 --> 21:07.240
Brings me back

21:07.240 --> 21:08.020
To some dual set

21:08.020 --> 21:08.680
Last week

21:08.680 --> 21:09.860
Talking about

21:09.860 --> 21:11.780
That book from

21:11.780 --> 21:12.580
The guy who

21:12.580 --> 21:13.500
Been behind

21:13.500 --> 21:14.200
Adbusters

21:14.200 --> 21:15.140
Right

21:15.140 --> 21:15.880
We've been so

21:15.880 --> 21:16.700
Programmed

21:16.700 --> 21:18.300
To accept

21:18.300 --> 21:19.060
All that stuff

21:19.060 --> 21:19.500
And believe

21:19.500 --> 21:20.300
All that stuff

21:20.300 --> 21:21.440
And you know

21:21.440 --> 21:21.980
Think about it

21:21.980 --> 21:23.200
I can't tell you

21:23.200 --> 21:23.580
How many people

21:23.580 --> 21:24.000
I know that

21:24.000 --> 21:24.320
They'll

21:24.320 --> 21:25.520
Like for example

21:25.520 --> 21:25.960
A monitor

21:25.960 --> 21:26.740
Someone I know

21:26.740 --> 21:27.820
Would only

21:27.820 --> 21:28.500
100%

21:28.500 --> 21:29.060
Absolutely

21:29.060 --> 21:30.140
Only ever

21:30.140 --> 21:30.480
Ever

21:30.480 --> 21:30.880
Ever

21:30.880 --> 21:31.760
Buy a Sony

21:31.760 --> 21:32.160
Monitor

21:32.160 --> 21:32.880
Period

21:32.880 --> 21:33.600
End of discussion

21:33.600 --> 21:34.600
Let alone the

21:34.600 --> 21:35.460
Fact that first of

21:35.460 --> 21:35.920
All that they

21:35.920 --> 21:36.520
Have some pretty

21:36.520 --> 21:37.060
Good technology

21:37.060 --> 21:37.940
Like the CRT

21:37.940 --> 21:38.320
Monitors

21:38.320 --> 21:38.880
Trinitron

21:38.880 --> 21:39.340
And all that

21:39.340 --> 21:40.080
But there's a

21:40.080 --> 21:40.720
Bunch of other

21:40.720 --> 21:42.060
Companies that are

21:42.060 --> 21:42.540
Using that

21:42.540 --> 21:42.840
And they're just

21:42.840 --> 21:43.280
Not putting the

21:43.280 --> 21:44.100
Sony name on it

21:44.100 --> 21:44.740
So you know

21:44.740 --> 21:45.900
It's that

21:45.900 --> 21:46.360
Mindshare

21:46.360 --> 21:46.680
If you can

21:46.680 --> 21:47.420
Buy that

21:47.420 --> 21:47.760
If you can

21:47.760 --> 21:48.660
Program people

21:48.660 --> 21:50.500
To do this

21:50.500 --> 21:51.000
Kind of stuff

21:51.000 --> 21:52.820
It absolutely

21:52.820 --> 21:53.320
Pays

21:53.320 --> 21:53.840
You know

21:53.840 --> 21:54.520
We could go

21:54.520 --> 21:54.900
Into a whole

21:54.900 --> 21:55.400
Diatribe

21:55.400 --> 21:55.840
This is not

21:55.840 --> 21:56.520
Really technology

21:56.520 --> 21:56.920
Related

21:56.920 --> 21:57.340
But like

21:57.340 --> 21:58.780
If any of

21:58.780 --> 21:59.020
The listeners

21:59.020 --> 21:59.440
Out there

21:59.440 --> 21:59.840
Are interesting

21:59.840 --> 22:00.320
Look up

22:00.320 --> 22:03.220
I think it was

22:03.220 --> 22:03.640
In the early

22:03.640 --> 22:04.120
80s

22:04.120 --> 22:04.420
There was an

22:04.420 --> 22:04.860
Article in

22:04.860 --> 22:05.640
Esquire magazine

22:05.640 --> 22:06.280
It's online

22:06.280 --> 22:07.080
About the

22:07.080 --> 22:07.420
DeVere

22:07.420 --> 22:07.960
Stamling

22:07.960 --> 22:08.480
And diamonds

22:08.480 --> 22:09.680
And you

22:09.680 --> 22:09.980
Will be

22:09.980 --> 22:10.500
Or go to

22:10.500 --> 22:10.760
Amnesty

22:10.760 --> 22:11.360
International

22:11.360 --> 22:12.180
Look at

22:12.180 --> 22:12.480
Some of the

22:12.480 --> 22:13.000
Little flash

22:13.000 --> 22:13.460
Movies they

22:13.460 --> 22:13.740
Have

22:13.740 --> 22:14.360
And you

22:14.360 --> 22:14.600
Will be

22:14.600 --> 22:14.980
Absolutely

22:14.980 --> 22:15.600
Shocked

22:15.600 --> 22:16.720
And horrified

22:16.720 --> 22:18.280
By all the

22:18.280 --> 22:18.720
Blood money

22:18.720 --> 22:19.020
And everything

22:19.020 --> 22:19.460
Else that's

22:19.460 --> 22:19.800
Going on

22:19.800 --> 22:20.420
Behind diamonds

22:20.420 --> 22:20.860
And diamonds

22:20.860 --> 22:21.300
Really aren't

22:21.300 --> 22:21.700
That rare

22:21.700 --> 22:21.960
And they're

22:21.960 --> 22:22.340
Really not

22:22.340 --> 22:22.700
Worth that

22:22.700 --> 22:22.900
Much

22:22.900 --> 22:24.140
But completely

22:24.140 --> 22:24.760
Untechnology

22:24.760 --> 22:25.100
Related

22:25.100 --> 22:26.060
But from a

22:26.060 --> 22:26.940
Social aspect

22:26.940 --> 22:27.900
You know

22:27.900 --> 22:28.800
We have to

22:28.800 --> 22:29.400
Deprogram

22:29.400 --> 22:29.420
Deprogram

22:29.420 --> 22:30.820
Desensitize

22:30.820 --> 22:31.260
Ourselves

22:31.260 --> 22:31.700
To all

22:31.700 --> 22:31.960
This

22:31.960 --> 22:32.500
Marketing

22:32.500 --> 22:33.020
And crap

22:33.020 --> 22:33.280
That we

22:33.280 --> 22:33.660
Get thrown

22:33.660 --> 22:33.980
At us

22:33.980 --> 22:34.200
All the

22:34.200 --> 22:34.440
Time

22:34.440 --> 22:34.980
Right

22:34.980 --> 22:35.900
And it

22:35.900 --> 22:36.160
May not

22:36.160 --> 22:36.320
Be

22:36.320 --> 22:37.160
Technology

22:37.160 --> 22:37.660
Related

22:37.660 --> 22:37.980
But it

22:37.980 --> 22:38.260
Is

22:38.260 --> 22:39.460
Hacking

22:39.460 --> 22:40.100
The mind

22:40.100 --> 22:40.880
And breaking

22:40.880 --> 22:41.420
The mindset

22:41.420 --> 22:41.860
And I do

22:41.860 --> 22:42.340
Think that's

22:42.340 --> 22:42.780
Appropriate

22:42.780 --> 22:43.140
I don't have

22:43.140 --> 22:43.440
A problem

22:43.440 --> 22:44.040
Talking about

22:44.040 --> 22:44.260
That

22:44.260 --> 22:44.600
So

22:44.600 --> 22:46.060
Don't feel

22:46.060 --> 22:46.580
Don't feel

22:46.580 --> 22:46.820
Free

22:46.820 --> 22:47.640
You don't have

22:47.640 --> 22:47.920
To rein

22:47.920 --> 22:48.420
Yourself in

22:48.420 --> 22:48.720
I think

22:48.720 --> 22:48.980
This is

22:48.980 --> 22:49.340
Absolutely

22:49.340 --> 22:49.960
Appropriate

22:49.960 --> 22:50.680
Discussion

22:50.680 --> 22:51.220
For the show

22:51.220 --> 23:01.080
It's still

23:01.080 --> 23:01.400
Interesting

23:01.400 --> 23:01.920
So yeah

23:01.920 --> 23:02.260
I think

23:02.260 --> 23:02.580
Yeah

23:02.580 --> 23:03.100
I think

23:03.100 --> 23:03.440
We pretty

23:03.440 --> 23:04.100
Much exhausted

23:04.100 --> 23:04.360
That

23:04.360 --> 23:04.680
Oh there

23:04.680 --> 23:04.840
Was

23:04.840 --> 23:05.740
The AOL

23:05.740 --> 23:06.260
Commercials

23:06.260 --> 23:06.460
You saw

23:06.460 --> 23:06.840
The AOL

23:06.840 --> 23:07.700
Commercials

23:07.700 --> 23:07.980
With

23:07.980 --> 23:08.700
I don't know

23:08.700 --> 23:08.860
If you

23:08.860 --> 23:09.360
Recognize

23:09.360 --> 23:09.700
But the

23:09.700 --> 23:10.240
Guys from

23:10.240 --> 23:11.780
American Chopper

23:11.780 --> 23:12.060
Yeah

23:12.060 --> 23:12.540
Which I

23:12.540 --> 23:12.860
Thought that

23:12.860 --> 23:13.240
Was just

23:13.240 --> 23:13.800
An intriguing

23:13.800 --> 23:15.000
Combination

23:15.000 --> 23:15.620
To put on

23:15.620 --> 23:17.480
The Super

23:17.480 --> 23:17.740
Bowl

23:17.740 --> 23:18.100
Which is

23:18.100 --> 23:18.760
Mass market

23:18.760 --> 23:19.100
You know

23:19.100 --> 23:19.440
People

23:19.440 --> 23:20.580
What do they

23:20.580 --> 23:20.860
Call it

23:20.860 --> 23:21.200
Broadcasts

23:21.200 --> 23:21.860
Television

23:21.860 --> 23:22.640
But they

23:22.640 --> 23:23.240
Use these

23:23.240 --> 23:24.360
I won't say

23:24.360 --> 23:24.780
Characters

23:24.780 --> 23:25.080
Because I

23:25.080 --> 23:25.380
Guess they're

23:25.380 --> 23:25.820
Real people

23:25.820 --> 23:26.340
From

23:26.340 --> 23:27.160
You know

23:27.160 --> 23:27.680
TLC

23:27.680 --> 23:28.000
Is it

23:28.000 --> 23:28.280
TLC

23:28.280 --> 23:28.840
Or Discovery

23:28.840 --> 23:29.300
I forget

23:29.300 --> 23:29.840
Which one

23:29.840 --> 23:30.380
Which one

23:30.380 --> 23:30.840
American

23:30.840 --> 23:31.280
Chopper

23:31.280 --> 23:31.520
Is on

23:31.520 --> 23:31.740
One of

23:31.740 --> 23:32.040
Those two

23:32.040 --> 23:32.520
Channels

23:32.520 --> 23:33.200
So they

23:33.200 --> 23:33.500
Use these

23:33.500 --> 23:34.060
People from

23:34.060 --> 23:35.240
An educational

23:35.240 --> 23:36.320
Cable channel

23:36.320 --> 23:37.180
And put them

23:37.180 --> 23:37.480
I don't know

23:37.480 --> 23:38.240
If I

23:38.240 --> 23:39.120
Call

23:39.120 --> 23:40.100
The

23:40.100 --> 23:41.500
Orange County

23:41.500 --> 23:41.920
Chopper

23:41.920 --> 23:42.320
People

23:42.320 --> 23:42.720
Paul

23:42.720 --> 23:43.580
I don't know

23:43.580 --> 23:43.700
If I

23:43.700 --> 23:44.100
Call that

23:44.100 --> 23:44.580
Education

23:44.580 --> 23:45.100
It's more

23:45.100 --> 23:45.980
Quasi

23:45.980 --> 23:47.740
Reality

23:47.740 --> 23:48.220
TV

23:48.220 --> 23:49.140
That one's

23:49.140 --> 23:49.380
A little

23:49.380 --> 23:49.620
Bit

23:49.620 --> 23:50.300
Over

23:50.300 --> 23:51.660
There's a lot

23:51.660 --> 23:52.080
Of drama

23:52.080 --> 23:52.440
In there

23:52.440 --> 23:53.020
But there's

23:53.020 --> 23:53.480
Also a lot

23:53.480 --> 23:53.980
Of mechanics

23:53.980 --> 23:54.400
In there

23:54.400 --> 23:54.820
There's also

23:54.820 --> 23:55.120
A lot

23:55.120 --> 23:55.680
Of interesting

23:55.680 --> 23:56.940
Watching how

23:56.940 --> 23:57.500
They create

23:57.500 --> 23:57.760
Stuff

23:57.760 --> 23:58.220
So it has

23:58.220 --> 23:58.920
Some educational

23:58.920 --> 23:59.360
Value

23:59.360 --> 24:00.240
I would say

24:00.240 --> 24:01.240
In my opinion

24:01.240 --> 24:02.480
But that's

24:02.480 --> 24:02.840
Just me

24:02.840 --> 24:03.540
I love

24:03.540 --> 24:03.560
I love

24:03.560 --> 24:04.220
Monster Garage

24:04.220 --> 24:04.540
For that

24:04.540 --> 24:04.860
Same

24:04.860 --> 24:05.360
Thing

24:05.360 --> 24:05.980
To watch

24:05.980 --> 24:06.280
What they

24:06.280 --> 24:06.860
Can do

24:06.860 --> 24:07.140
And how

24:07.140 --> 24:07.440
They go

24:07.440 --> 24:07.880
About doing

24:07.880 --> 24:08.180
Some of

24:08.180 --> 24:08.440
The stuff

24:08.440 --> 24:09.600
I find it

24:09.600 --> 24:09.920
Interesting

24:09.920 --> 24:10.420
I also

24:10.420 --> 24:11.040
Every once

24:11.040 --> 24:11.300
In a while

24:11.300 --> 24:11.640
I find it

24:11.640 --> 24:11.960
Interesting

24:11.960 --> 24:12.600
Just to watch

24:12.600 --> 24:13.700
The melodrama

24:13.700 --> 24:14.340
That's professional

24:14.340 --> 24:14.740
Wrestling

24:14.740 --> 24:15.800
Oh yeah

24:15.800 --> 24:16.400
Well that's a

24:16.400 --> 24:16.700
Whole

24:16.700 --> 24:17.520
That's a whole

24:17.520 --> 24:17.960
Other story

24:17.960 --> 24:20.000
What is the term

24:20.000 --> 24:20.500
Sports

24:20.500 --> 24:21.140
Entertainment

24:21.140 --> 24:21.520
That's what

24:21.520 --> 24:21.920
They call it

24:21.920 --> 24:22.080
Now

24:22.080 --> 24:22.240
Yeah

24:22.240 --> 24:22.920
They call it

24:22.920 --> 24:23.240
That now

24:23.240 --> 24:23.620
But hey

24:23.620 --> 24:24.200
Still

24:24.200 --> 24:25.180
You can't

24:25.180 --> 24:25.620
Deny the

24:25.620 --> 24:26.120
Athleticism

24:26.120 --> 24:26.480
Of those

24:26.480 --> 24:26.740
People

24:26.740 --> 24:27.400
I wouldn't

24:27.400 --> 24:27.760
Go up to

24:27.760 --> 24:28.380
One of those

24:28.380 --> 24:28.600
Guys

24:28.600 --> 24:28.860
And say

24:28.860 --> 24:29.200
Hey you're

24:29.200 --> 24:29.600
Just a big

24:29.600 --> 24:29.920
Phony

24:29.920 --> 24:30.200
Yeah

24:30.200 --> 24:31.020
One of those

24:31.020 --> 24:31.460
Dudes is

24:31.460 --> 24:32.120
I think

24:32.120 --> 24:32.760
Seven foot

24:32.760 --> 24:33.500
Five hundred

24:33.500 --> 24:34.100
Pounds

24:34.100 --> 24:34.740
Yeah

24:34.740 --> 24:35.200
Good

24:35.200 --> 24:35.860
Glory

24:35.860 --> 24:36.580
Hoka mocha

24:36.580 --> 24:37.100
Yeah

24:37.100 --> 24:37.620
Anyway

24:37.620 --> 24:38.360
Body slammed

24:38.360 --> 24:38.720
Me against

24:38.720 --> 24:39.100
The wall

24:39.100 --> 24:39.440
You know

24:39.440 --> 24:40.060
See how

24:40.060 --> 24:40.760
Real did

24:40.760 --> 24:41.100
That feel

24:41.100 --> 24:41.340
Was that

24:41.340 --> 24:41.600
Big

24:41.600 --> 24:42.000
Yeah

24:42.000 --> 24:42.720
Exactly

24:42.720 --> 24:43.060
Yeah

24:43.060 --> 24:43.380
Oh he

24:43.380 --> 24:43.840
Rolled with

24:43.840 --> 24:44.360
The punch

24:44.360 --> 24:44.780
Or whatever

24:44.780 --> 24:45.240
Well guess

24:45.240 --> 24:45.460
What

24:45.460 --> 24:45.860
He still

24:45.860 --> 24:46.620
Got punched

24:46.620 --> 24:47.220
Yeah

24:47.220 --> 24:48.400
Anyway

24:48.400 --> 24:49.100
Let's move

24:49.100 --> 24:49.600
On to our

24:49.600 --> 24:50.360
Personal hacking

24:50.360 --> 24:50.640
Stories

24:50.640 --> 24:50.920
And you

24:50.920 --> 24:51.180
And I

24:51.180 --> 24:51.520
Both

24:51.520 --> 24:51.940
Of course

24:51.940 --> 24:52.280
I think

24:52.280 --> 24:52.420
We're

24:52.420 --> 24:52.600
Going to

24:52.600 --> 24:52.980
Talk about

24:52.980 --> 24:53.440
Same

24:53.440 --> 24:53.680
Thing

24:53.680 --> 24:53.920
Different

24:53.920 --> 24:54.480
Locations

24:54.480 --> 24:54.760
And that

24:54.760 --> 24:55.000
Was our

24:55.000 --> 24:55.620
2600

24:55.620 --> 24:56.120
Meetings

24:56.120 --> 24:57.200
Which were

24:57.200 --> 24:57.860
This past

24:57.860 --> 24:58.440
Friday

24:58.440 --> 25:00.560
I had a

25:00.560 --> 25:00.840
Pretty good

25:00.840 --> 25:01.040
Meeting

25:01.040 --> 25:01.400
I got

25:01.400 --> 25:01.540
There

25:01.540 --> 25:01.920
I got

25:01.920 --> 25:02.200
To mine

25:02.200 --> 25:02.520
Early

25:02.520 --> 25:02.980
Actually

25:02.980 --> 25:04.420
And

25:04.420 --> 25:05.680
Started

25:05.680 --> 25:06.040
Working

25:06.040 --> 25:06.580
On a

25:06.580 --> 25:07.260
Presentation

25:07.260 --> 25:07.600
I was

25:07.600 --> 25:08.320
I don't

25:08.320 --> 25:08.660
Know what

25:08.660 --> 25:08.900
I'm going

25:08.900 --> 25:09.120
To do

25:09.120 --> 25:09.380
With it

25:09.380 --> 25:09.580
I was

25:09.580 --> 25:09.800
Thinking

25:09.800 --> 25:10.160
I might

25:10.160 --> 25:10.460
Present

25:10.460 --> 25:10.600
It

25:10.600 --> 25:10.800
Hope

25:10.800 --> 25:11.180
If they'll

25:11.180 --> 25:11.740
Have me

25:11.740 --> 25:12.120
I don't

25:12.120 --> 25:12.500
Know how

25:12.500 --> 25:13.020
That process

25:13.020 --> 25:13.340
Works

25:13.340 --> 25:13.820
Of submitting

25:13.820 --> 25:14.180
It or

25:14.180 --> 25:14.520
Whatever

25:14.520 --> 25:15.960
Possibly

25:15.960 --> 25:16.380
For inner

25:16.380 --> 25:16.760
Zone

25:16.760 --> 25:17.000
Or

25:17.000 --> 25:17.640
Defcon

25:17.640 --> 25:18.020
I don't

25:18.020 --> 25:18.220
Know

25:18.220 --> 25:18.480
But

25:18.480 --> 25:19.100
Anyway

25:19.100 --> 25:19.440
I started

25:19.440 --> 25:19.720
Working

25:19.720 --> 25:19.980
On a

25:19.980 --> 25:20.600
Presentation

25:20.600 --> 25:21.220
AS400

25:21.220 --> 25:21.980
Presentation

25:21.980 --> 25:22.300
I'm not

25:22.300 --> 25:22.460
Sure

25:22.460 --> 25:22.720
How it

25:22.720 --> 25:22.760
Will

25:22.760 --> 25:22.940
Go

25:22.940 --> 25:23.180
Over

25:23.180 --> 25:23.520
But

25:23.520 --> 25:24.400
Got

25:24.400 --> 25:24.800
Started

25:24.800 --> 25:25.220
On that

25:25.220 --> 25:26.280
Which

25:26.280 --> 25:26.580
I had

25:26.580 --> 25:26.700
Been

25:26.700 --> 25:26.940
Putting

25:26.940 --> 25:27.180
Off

25:27.180 --> 25:27.300
So

25:27.300 --> 25:27.420
It was

25:27.420 --> 25:27.680
Good

25:27.680 --> 25:28.140
Quiet

25:28.140 --> 25:28.380
Time

25:28.380 --> 25:28.560
You know

25:28.560 --> 25:28.680
It's

25:28.680 --> 25:28.860
Funny

25:28.860 --> 25:29.120
I got

25:29.120 --> 25:29.700
I had

25:29.700 --> 25:30.020
Quiet

25:30.020 --> 25:30.340
Time

25:30.340 --> 25:30.600
In the

25:30.600 --> 25:30.780
Center

25:30.780 --> 25:31.020
Of a

25:31.020 --> 25:31.200
Food

25:31.200 --> 25:31.380
Court

25:31.380 --> 25:31.560
In the

25:31.560 --> 25:31.740
Mall

25:31.740 --> 25:31.940
It was

25:31.940 --> 25:32.140
Actually

25:32.140 --> 25:32.460
Kind of

25:32.460 --> 25:32.880
Ironic

25:32.880 --> 25:34.180
But

25:34.180 --> 25:35.480
We

25:35.480 --> 25:36.040
Let's

25:36.040 --> 25:36.160
See

25:36.160 --> 25:36.420
People

25:36.420 --> 25:36.660
Started

25:36.660 --> 25:36.980
To show

25:36.980 --> 25:37.100
Up

25:37.100 --> 25:37.340
I guess

25:37.340 --> 25:37.560
Around

25:37.560 --> 25:38.280
Six

25:38.280 --> 25:38.560
The

25:38.560 --> 25:38.780
First

25:38.780 --> 25:39.080
Person

25:39.080 --> 25:39.320
Showed

25:39.320 --> 25:39.460
Up

25:39.460 --> 25:40.020
Somewhere

25:40.020 --> 25:40.300
Between

25:40.300 --> 25:40.620
Six

25:40.620 --> 25:40.760
And

25:40.760 --> 25:41.040
Seven

25:41.040 --> 25:42.080
And

25:42.080 --> 25:42.680
Started

25:42.680 --> 25:43.000
Talking

25:43.000 --> 25:43.240
Our

25:43.240 --> 25:43.820
Main

25:43.820 --> 25:44.260
Point

25:44.260 --> 25:44.380
Of

25:44.380 --> 25:44.860
Conversation

25:44.860 --> 25:45.060
Was

25:45.060 --> 25:45.200
Some

25:45.200 --> 25:45.500
Local

25:45.500 --> 25:46.140
Root Wars

25:46.140 --> 25:46.380
We're

25:46.380 --> 25:46.540
Trying

25:46.540 --> 25:46.620
To

25:46.620 --> 25:46.740
Put

25:46.740 --> 25:46.880
On

25:46.880 --> 25:47.160
A

25:47.160 --> 25:47.360
Root

25:47.360 --> 25:47.520
War

25:47.520 --> 25:48.020
Locally

25:48.020 --> 25:48.760
Put

25:48.760 --> 25:49.080
In

25:49.080 --> 25:50.000
A

25:50.000 --> 25:50.380
Lab

25:50.380 --> 25:50.720
Self

25:50.720 --> 25:51.200
Sustained

25:51.200 --> 25:51.440
Self

25:51.440 --> 25:51.820
Contained

25:51.820 --> 25:52.220
Lab

25:52.220 --> 25:52.360
And

25:52.360 --> 25:52.540
Stuff

25:52.540 --> 25:52.720
Like

25:52.720 --> 25:52.940
That

25:52.940 --> 25:53.120
So

25:53.120 --> 25:53.260
That

25:53.260 --> 25:53.400
Was

25:53.400 --> 25:53.600
One

25:53.600 --> 25:53.700
Of

25:53.700 --> 25:53.760
The

25:53.760 --> 25:53.960
Points

25:53.960 --> 25:54.100
Of

25:54.100 --> 25:54.680
Conversation

25:54.680 --> 25:54.940
And

25:54.940 --> 25:55.240
That's

25:55.240 --> 25:55.400
Been

25:55.400 --> 25:56.000
Ongoing

25:56.000 --> 25:58.240
And

25:58.240 --> 25:58.600
That

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Was

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would just take, you know, not in this lifetime are we ever going to see that ever able to

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be fixed.

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I mean, they would basically have to come up with a new program and call it DOORS instead,

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you know, and have it completely written from scratch with security.

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You know, so fire someone, hey, okay, great.

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You know, make someone the scapegoat, make them the sacrificial lamb, fine.

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That's still not going to fix the problem.

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No, I think it comes down to organization.

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I don't think it's the code monkeys that are the problem.

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I think it's the management.

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And like you said, I don't know if it's as high as Bill or Steve, but it's somebody

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in management whose job it is to tie all these things together.

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And when you tie components together and integrate, which is their favorite word, you have to

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integrate not only features, not only how it looks and feels, but you have to integrate

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security.

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That's part of the whole thing.

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So I think that's a management, that's a project manager's job.

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Yeah, but again, I think it's a higher level than that.

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It goes back to, again, Bill as the chief software architect.

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That's the title that he gave himself now.

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The title given to him by Queen Elizabeth was Sir Bill Gates, but that's another story.

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That's the other.

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But again, because everything was so fast and loose back in the day when they were developing

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Windows and DOS and everything.

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And yes, of course, Microsoft did not develop DOS.

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They bought it from someone else and added their own stuff onto it.

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But anyway, all of that was not designed with security.

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Let's face it, the internet was not designed for security.

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TCP IP is notoriously bad.

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We just got done talking about security and ports and everything else.

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So the whole paradigm of thing needs to shift, and we need to do things from a secure standpoint.

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And by firing a couple of developers, I'm sorry, that's not going to do it.

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Well, in defense, it does say fire someone.

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It doesn't say developers, but, well, actually, it does say developers, developers.

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Are they going to fire the janitor?

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But it says fire someone.

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Lunch lady?

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Come on.

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All right.

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Are they going to fire?

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Who's it going to matter?

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If it's not a code or if it's not someone typing away in the salt mine that's chained to

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their cubicle.

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Well, they probably will throw someone under the bus, but I think upper management needs

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to accept responsibility.

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Yeah, that's going to happen.

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Well, I didn't say it was realistic.

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I said should.

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And unfortunately, we don't live in should-ville.

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But number 53, give away a good spam filter.

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Is it Microsoft's job to build and create and write a spam filter for us?

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Well, you know, they started putting antivirus back in DOS 622 and stuff.

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But I'm going to get back to the same thing.

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It's going to sound like a broken record here, but email is broke.

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Email is broken.

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It needs to be fixed.

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Again, it was designed back in the days when security didn't matter, and it was only these

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people in universities that were sending stuff to each other.

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So, yeah, should they do it?

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Maybe.

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Then again, every time Microsoft tries to do something like that, those little developing

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companies come up and say, eh, eh, eh, it's not fair.

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Microsoft's giving that away.

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We're trying to make a living selling that, and they're giving it away.

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It's not fair.

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All right.

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And frankly, I would debate, why is it Microsoft's place to do this?

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Microsoft's not in charge and invented email.

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Well, yes, they're, you know, they own all the desktop, majority of desktops in the world, and

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sure, Outlook has problems and stuff.

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Well, fix Outlook.

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Outlook has a spam filter in it.

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They provide one with Outlook.

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Outlook, without getting into a debate on how good it is or how bad it is or anything like

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that, they provide one with their mail software, but why should they have to provide a universal

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spam filter?

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I mean, why them?

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Why not Netscape?

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Why not, hell, why not Linus?

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Linus Torvalds.

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Why not, you know, why not Linus Torvalds?

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Well, there are actually a lot of good spam filters.

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There absolutely are.

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Spam Assassin I use.

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Yeah, or even, you know, some of the other things, the Bayesian filtering kind of algorithms,

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but, and those are, those are also available for Windows, but, you know, the, the great unwashed

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masses out there aren't going to be able to start going to SourceForge or FreshMeat and

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download and install that stuff.

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Right.

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Well, no, I mean, I'm not sympathetic with them, but I do have to play the, the devil's

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advocate here and say, I don't know that it's really their place to.

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If I was there and somebody told me, I'd be like, yeah, whatever.

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We already provide a spam filter.

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But, anyway, number 54, and you just mentioned this, ship an antivirus wizard.

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Why can't the paperclip guy tell us something important like, this message is infected with

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so big.

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Well, I'll, I'll save you the broken record thing because they didn't have it.

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They didn't think this kind of stuff was going to happen with email.

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They didn't predict it.

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Their software has these vulnerabilities.

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So, singling out, looking for a specific virus, no.

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But, should Microsoft ship an antivirus wizard?

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Well, I don't know.

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First of all, Clippy, the paperclip, got fired.

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They actually had a big thing one time with Gates.

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I forget what they were launching.

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Oh, it was probably Office XP.

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I think so.

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Someone come up, dressed up like the paperclip, and Bill handed him this big, huge pink slip.

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Yeah.

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He's fired, so.

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And they actually had fun and made fun of that, too.

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They realized that that was about the biggest screw-up since Microsoft Bob.

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It was actually, Gilbert Gottfried did the voice of Clippy.

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All right, 55.

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Again, I had the same, same comment for this, number 55.

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Block self-installing adware for good.

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Well, you can't make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.

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Someone's going to figure a way around something out of that all the time.

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Well, what's the saying about every time you make something idiot-proof, the world makes bigger and better idiots?

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And again, I don't know whose place that is to do that.

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This is under the Microsoft to-do stuff, so I don't, it's a tough one.

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Realistically, that's just way too broad.

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56.

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Enable automatic file encryption.

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We've heard promises for years, but even Apple offers this already.

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What's the holdup?

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Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but you optionally with Windows 2000 and above can have your files encrypted automatically.

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You just choose to do that as you set that up as one of the properties for that particular volume under NTFS.

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Yeah, I was going to say, I think an NTFS, uh-oh, there's a timer.

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Under NTFS, I do think that's true, but is that appropriate for a home user?

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Is that realistically something a home user, you know, I have to admit I've never tried it,

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but I would wonder if a home user was going to have any problems accessing their files and their data as easily under an encrypted file system or not.

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Well, if the operating system is working, it's not going to be an issue.

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Right.

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You know, then again, there's a lot of boxes, I think, are still being set up even from the factory with FAT or FAT32 rather than NTFS

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because, you know, you can boot a DOS disk and still get to your files on if it's FAT as opposed to NTFS, so.

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Right, right.

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And what I normally do is set up my primary drive, uh, on a Windows box anyway, is NTFS.

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And then, uh, my extra data drive or anything like that I have in there is FAT32.

56:48.300 --> 56:53.340
Oh, dude, you should go NTFS all the way because of the cluster size and all the economies of scale and everything else for it.

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But I have, uh, limited, um, I need, without going into detail, I need to be able to access it from other boxes within the house,

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and there's so many disparate different versions and seeds of Linux and stuff like that that I want to keep it as universal as possible.

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Set up, set up, uh, have a central SMB server running Samba that you'll be able to get.

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Yeah, and that's the answer I've heard, and I, yes, that's what I need to do eventually, but it's on the list.

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Way at the bottom of the list.

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Speaking of lists.

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Uh-oh.

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Where are we up to now?

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Number 57?

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57.

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Filter fake error messages.

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Those ads that pose as Windows error messages.

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Your computer may be infected.

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Download fix.

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Should appear in front of your lawyers, not us.

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Well, give me a break.

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Well, again, I don't, I don't know.

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This whole section, I have to admit, I don't like this.

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They're not, they're, Microsoft has problems, a lot of them, but I'm not sure the way he's approaching this list so far is, I'm not sure that I agree with it.

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Yeah, these are non-realistic.

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Yeah, and I mean, it's, again, it's not Microsoft's place.

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If somebody uses, you know, somebody designs a banner ad that looks like the Windows error box, how is that, be accountable, whoever made the message.

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Someone did get in trouble, if I remember correctly.

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I don't know if you, some company, some banner company, got in trouble for making errors that looked like Windows error messages at one point.

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I mean, it looked like, I think it was a blue screen DOS error that popped up in a window or something like that.

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Does that ring a bell?

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Yeah, kind of.

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You might have to research that and maybe post it somewhere, but someone did get in trouble for that.

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Yeah, there was some other stuff too, like.

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I want to say it was one of those utility programs that says speed up your memory and your system is not optimized or something.

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I think it was one of those utility programs, but I'm not sure.

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Could very well be.

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If anybody knows, please email me, radiobinrev.com.

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58, take the blame.

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Well, that's a hole with no bottom right there.

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Software licensing agreements that absolve you of, oh, deleting three years' worth of email are irresponsible.

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Bugs are negligence, and negligence should cost you, not us.

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I love that sentence.

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Well, but there's two conflicting ideas there.

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Okay.

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Yeah, bugs are negligence, bugs are issues, and you just can't.

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Let's put it this way, if any of the auto companies made cars that had as many bugs as Windows had,

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they'd be out of business, we'd be incensed.

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I mean, look at the Pintos and everything else, the Edsels, and one little thing like that,

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and the car companies get no slack.

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So that's one thing, and I definitely agree with that.

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But software licensing agreements that absolve you of, oh, deleting three years' worth of email are irresponsible.

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Wait a minute.

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How are you going to indemnify against people's stupidity?

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So a person deletes their entire file folder with three years' worth of email,

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how is that the responsibility of the company?

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People aren't taking responsibility for themselves these days or their kids or anything else.

01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:04.680
Absolutely.

01:00:04.680 --> 01:00:08.900
So you're looking for someone else to blame because you were an idiot and deleted all your three years' worth of email?

01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:09.680
Come on.

01:00:09.680 --> 01:00:19.720
Right, but there are also, at the same time, there are legitimate circumstances where Outlook will download the latest supposed security patch

01:00:19.720 --> 01:00:26.180
that comes from Microsoft, and the next time you fire up Outlook, oops, your last three years of email are gone.

01:00:26.580 --> 01:00:30.360
I mean, those things exist, too, and I think that is the type of situation.

01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:37.500
Of course, logistically, how are you going to prove and define one versus the other, and where is that line?

01:00:38.220 --> 01:00:44.580
I mean, it would be a mess to actually go through that and try to get a finger pointed at someone and keep it there.

01:00:44.700 --> 01:00:49.720
Right, and there are so many variables, and after the fact, and trying to do forensics to figure out what actually happened.

01:00:50.220 --> 01:00:50.560
Right.

01:00:50.560 --> 01:00:55.400
Let's face it, end users aren't, let alone the whole responsibility issue that I got on a second ago.

01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:03.860
If anyone out there works in the IT area as a help desk kind of thing or whatever, you go to look at someone's computer, what did you do?

01:01:03.900 --> 01:01:04.720
Oh, I didn't do anything.

01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:05.580
I didn't change anything.

01:01:05.660 --> 01:01:06.540
It just acted like that.

01:01:06.680 --> 01:01:15.240
Well, the logical absurdity that I take that to is that you go out to someone's desk in a company-setting business environment and say,

01:01:15.500 --> 01:01:16.260
okay, what did you change?

01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:17.080
I didn't change anything.

01:01:17.080 --> 01:01:21.320
You know, meanwhile, they have an iMac sitting on their desk when your company standard is, you know, PCs.

01:01:21.720 --> 01:01:22.580
Oh, I didn't change anything.

01:01:22.680 --> 01:01:23.960
It was just like that when I got here today.

01:01:24.340 --> 01:01:24.920
Yeah, right.

01:01:25.220 --> 01:01:25.420
Yeah.

01:01:25.520 --> 01:01:28.520
You know, people don't want to admit that they changed anything because they don't want to catch out.

01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:29.920
Right, right.

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Let's whip through these last few here.

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59, make anonymous net use easier.

01:01:37.580 --> 01:01:38.800
I think that's a great statement.

01:01:38.940 --> 01:01:39.720
That's a great idea.

01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:41.580
Again, why is it in the Microsoft section?

01:01:42.420 --> 01:01:44.420
I mean, yeah, it'd be nice if they added that feature, sure.

01:01:44.420 --> 01:01:49.960
Yeah, but I think maybe some of that, as I'm thinking about it now, some of that may be just because, again,

01:01:50.060 --> 01:01:53.500
for individual users, yeah, there are anonymizer-type products out there.

01:01:53.580 --> 01:01:55.420
There's anonymous proxies and everything else.

01:01:56.780 --> 01:01:59.640
But generally, people aren't going to be able to do that.

01:01:59.820 --> 01:02:05.260
You know, the quote-unquote normal regular computer user isn't going to be able to do that.

01:02:05.260 --> 01:02:08.940
So if it's included with the operating system, yeah, then that's a possibility.

01:02:09.180 --> 01:02:12.640
If it's not, most of the people out there aren't going to be able to do it.

01:02:13.160 --> 01:02:13.380
Right.

01:02:13.580 --> 01:02:18.760
And, well, on the same logic to contradict myself and play devil's advocate to the devil's advocate,

01:02:19.300 --> 01:02:26.160
if they can bundle Microsoft Network on the desktop, they certainly can bundle anonymous net browsing in there as well.

01:02:26.520 --> 01:02:26.740
Right.

01:02:26.820 --> 01:02:28.740
And maybe that's another profit center for Microsoft.

01:02:28.940 --> 01:02:31.640
Of course, are you going to trust Microsoft to be your anonymizing company?

01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:32.680
Yeah, right.

01:02:32.680 --> 01:02:33.320
Right, exactly.

01:02:33.620 --> 01:02:36.900
For another $9.95 in months, you can search the net anonymously.

01:02:37.040 --> 01:02:40.340
By the way, you know, you have to be a subscriber to the Microsoft Network.

01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:42.760
And, by the way, we'll see every bit of data that's going through your hard drive.

01:02:43.180 --> 01:02:45.980
Please enter your social security number and blood type in the following field,

01:02:46.020 --> 01:02:47.120
and we'll get you started right away.

01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:47.800
Exactly.

01:02:48.660 --> 01:02:49.020
Exactly.

01:02:49.140 --> 01:02:50.160
It's like it's a drug dealer.

01:02:50.340 --> 01:02:51.420
First three months free.

01:02:51.940 --> 01:02:54.620
Well, that's why there's only two things that have users, drugs and computers.

01:02:54.860 --> 01:02:55.440
There you go.

01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:00.760
Number 60, make networked home PCs back each other up.

01:03:02.200 --> 01:03:02.600
Yeah.

01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:09.000
Logistically, that involves setting up, configuring software to see and recognize each other.

01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:13.560
What do you do when parts of the network go down, trouble communicating, consistent throughput.

01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:16.940
There's a ton of logistic nightmares in that.

01:03:17.200 --> 01:03:17.660
Well, yeah.

01:03:17.660 --> 01:03:24.380
I mean, make it to, you may as well throw one in there, make your computer not boot unless you can prove you have a backup of your data.

01:03:25.780 --> 01:03:30.760
It's like those cars with the built-in breathalyzers, you know, you have to blow in the tube to see if you're drunk or not.

01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:31.160
Hmm.

01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:34.300
Number 61, create.

01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:36.520
Okay, now this is a valid one, I think.

01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.400
Create a security advisory board.

01:03:39.900 --> 01:03:41.260
Appoint some outsiders.

01:03:41.260 --> 01:03:43.920
It says, parentheses, Dan Gear.

01:03:44.080 --> 01:03:45.720
I have to admit I don't know that name.

01:03:46.540 --> 01:03:52.740
To decide which security upgrades should be auto-pushed to consumers' PCs, then make it happen.

01:03:52.740 --> 01:03:56.400
Well, I like the idea of a security advisory board.

01:03:56.460 --> 01:03:58.960
I still don't want them to auto-push anything to me.

01:03:59.280 --> 01:03:59.460
Right.

01:03:59.460 --> 01:04:03.120
I still want the bottom line say-so of what I'm going to put on my system.

01:04:03.120 --> 01:04:08.620
No, and maybe more of an incorporate environment, you know, that's appropriate, but for the home users.

01:04:08.820 --> 01:04:13.560
And let's face it, that's where a lot of these, you know, zombie machines are out there as the home user.

01:04:15.080 --> 01:04:18.220
You know, if you push that out to them, that's at least better than having nothing.

01:04:18.580 --> 01:04:23.620
Although, if we roll the tape back just a second and saying about you just get the latest security fix for Outlook,

01:04:23.660 --> 01:04:24.980
and it leads to three years' worth of email.

01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:26.780
So, it's kind of a catch-22.

01:04:27.220 --> 01:04:27.580
Yep.

01:04:27.580 --> 01:04:32.880
Number 62, add a low-bandwidth mode to Internet Explorer.

01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:34.760
Well...

01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:38.920
Now, technically, there is an option in Internet Explorer to turn off images.

01:04:39.300 --> 01:04:39.480
Right.

01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:42.820
You can tell it not to download images and stuff like that, so...

01:04:42.820 --> 01:04:45.000
And disable any plug-ins or anything like that.

01:04:45.100 --> 01:04:47.340
So, that's pretty low-bandwidth.

01:04:47.560 --> 01:04:47.940
Right.

01:04:48.260 --> 01:04:53.140
If they're saying a text-only version, I don't know that they should have to, but...

01:04:53.140 --> 01:04:53.820
That's beside the point.

01:04:54.080 --> 01:04:54.660
What, I'm sorry?

01:04:54.940 --> 01:04:55.600
It's called Lynx.

01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:57.120
Yeah, well...

01:04:57.120 --> 01:04:58.800
We won't go there.

01:04:59.160 --> 01:05:02.280
But, actually, logistically, that shouldn't be too difficult to put in IE.

01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:04.100
Just have a different mode.

01:05:04.560 --> 01:05:09.520
Just an option that says full functional mode or text-only mode where it will only pull down.

01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:10.780
There you go, Stink.

01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:11.600
There's what you need to do.

01:05:11.600 --> 01:05:15.600
You need to write a little add-in toolbar that will shut off, you know,

01:05:15.660 --> 01:05:17.120
because people won't know where to dig for it.

01:05:17.140 --> 01:05:23.440
So, you add a little toolbar in that, you know, turns on or turns off ActiveX content

01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.060
and turns on and turns off the pictures.

01:05:27.120 --> 01:05:28.380
Yeah, I'll put that on the list.

01:05:30.940 --> 01:05:31.420
Oh, right.

01:05:31.480 --> 01:05:35.460
And, actually, you know, I really don't think that would be that difficult, but...

01:05:35.460 --> 01:05:38.640
Not to belittle it, but it's really not as difficult as some other things might be.

01:05:39.220 --> 01:05:40.300
Number 63.

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Offer more language translations.

01:05:43.620 --> 01:05:46.160
We want to read those Iranian blogs.

01:05:46.160 --> 01:05:53.920
Maybe I'm being very, very, I don't know what the proper word is here,

01:05:54.020 --> 01:05:58.920
but I'm not particularly interested in reading a lot of stuff in other languages.

01:05:59.520 --> 01:06:01.560
Well, actually, I am.

01:06:01.780 --> 01:06:02.980
I actually...

01:06:02.980 --> 01:06:09.400
Well, not frequently, but there are occasions where there's, like, German hacking zines out there or...

01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:10.960
Well, there's a site for it.

01:06:10.980 --> 01:06:11.760
It's called Babelfish.

01:06:12.340 --> 01:06:13.120
Well, but I don't...

01:06:13.120 --> 01:06:15.160
It doesn't have all of the translations.

01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:20.300
It only has a select few translations, and I have come across some that it won't translate.

01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:23.020
There are some obvious ones, like Japanese, for example.

01:06:23.340 --> 01:06:26.100
It's very, very, very difficult to translate.

01:06:26.100 --> 01:06:31.520
Yeah, but, you know, software is not to the point that you're going to get any non...

01:06:31.520 --> 01:06:38.100
Any pictographic kind of language, whether, you know, whether it's any of the Asian languages...

01:06:38.700 --> 01:06:39.120
Arabic.

01:06:39.560 --> 01:06:42.540
Arabic, Hebrew, even Cyrillic for Russian.

01:06:42.860 --> 01:06:43.220
Right.

01:06:43.700 --> 01:06:46.920
So that, you know, we just don't have the technology available to do that yet.

01:06:47.820 --> 01:06:50.580
Well, I would like to see that progress in the future.

01:06:50.700 --> 01:06:51.280
I think that...

01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:53.340
I think it will eventually, but, yeah, not yet.

01:06:53.700 --> 01:06:55.680
Yeah, and we'll tell you what, after you get the other program written,

01:06:55.680 --> 01:06:56.760
and start working on that one, too.

01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:57.480
All right, that's on...

01:06:57.480 --> 01:06:58.800
Okay, that one's after the other one.

01:06:58.820 --> 01:06:59.580
Let me write that down.

01:06:59.760 --> 01:06:59.980
Okay.

01:07:00.180 --> 01:07:02.520
This is the part where I pretend I'm actually writing this down?

01:07:02.760 --> 01:07:03.120
Exactly.

01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:05.520
Okay, I'm done pretending to write that down.

01:07:07.020 --> 01:07:08.260
Last one for the day.

01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:10.020
We're way over, actually.

01:07:10.020 --> 01:07:13.020
So, number 64, simplify for security.

01:07:14.200 --> 01:07:16.280
Fewer features means fewer bugs.

01:07:18.260 --> 01:07:19.080
Excuse me.

01:07:19.680 --> 01:07:20.640
I just sneezed on the air.

01:07:20.680 --> 01:07:21.460
Is that bad, radio?

01:07:21.700 --> 01:07:22.560
Oh, definitely, yeah.

01:07:22.560 --> 01:07:23.280
Oh, man.

01:07:24.060 --> 01:07:26.180
Fewer features means fewer bugs.

01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:28.540
So, I don't like that at all.

01:07:29.120 --> 01:07:34.120
Well, the only thing is, like, again, since we're talking specifically about Microsoft here,

01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:38.020
Microsoft's only real competition is Microsoft, you know,

01:07:38.200 --> 01:07:43.340
and no, you know, all Linux and Mac fans don't start sending me hate mail for that.

01:07:43.620 --> 01:07:45.320
We're talking specifically about Microsoft.

01:07:45.740 --> 01:07:46.880
The only competition is Microsoft.

01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:55.280
So, if you have Office 97 or Office 2000 or Office XP, what's your motive to upgrade to the next version?

01:07:55.740 --> 01:08:00.600
Unless you have one of those kind of restrictive licenses that Microsoft's holding a gun up to your head,

01:08:00.740 --> 01:08:02.060
there really is no reason.

01:08:02.060 --> 01:08:07.760
So, the only way Microsoft can compete with the older Microsoft is having new features.

01:08:08.300 --> 01:08:12.840
Now, that having been said, there's, you know, something wrong about that because, you know,

01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:16.660
you can't, they can't, every company can't keep growing 20% from quarter to quarter.

01:08:18.420 --> 01:08:22.740
Keep, you know, I don't need 47 different colored squiggle underlined.

01:08:22.820 --> 01:08:27.680
Like, it was kind of cool, yeah, when I typed something wrong in Word and put the little red squiggly underline

01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:28.800
to let me know I typed it wrong.

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Okay, that's pretty cool.

01:08:30.080 --> 01:08:30.680
That's really useful.

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But now, if I have improper grammar, there's a green squiggly underline.

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Right.

01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:39.620
And now, if I say a bad word, is there going to be an orange squiggly underline?

01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:42.080
If I do something else, is there going to be a purple squiggly underline?

01:08:42.180 --> 01:08:43.920
I mean, how many more features do I need?

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Don't forget about smart tags.

01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:46.000
Well, there you go.

01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:51.380
So, you know, yeah, you know, stop trying to throw more bells and whistles at it

01:08:51.380 --> 01:08:53.760
and just work at improving and just say, hey, you know what?

01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:58.460
But maybe it's actually going to be the fact that everyone out there is not going to buy

01:08:58.460 --> 01:09:05.100
the latest and greatest, you know, gwiz.com version 4.750 just because there's a new one out

01:09:05.100 --> 01:09:07.200
and just because my stockholders need to make more money.

01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:12.740
Well, that's not exactly the same issue.

01:09:12.860 --> 01:09:13.940
You kind of branched off there.

01:09:14.300 --> 01:09:16.540
Releasing bad buggy software is one thing.

01:09:16.540 --> 01:09:22.780
But I don't think that you should take away features or remove features or avoid adding

01:09:22.780 --> 01:09:25.700
and giving people new features because of the potential.

01:09:26.160 --> 01:09:30.960
I mean, I don't think a user should have to suffer or do without something.

01:09:32.280 --> 01:09:34.180
You know, I don't think the user should have to suffer.

01:09:34.360 --> 01:09:39.040
I think they should just simply do it and do it right, period.

01:09:39.780 --> 01:09:43.640
If you're going to do the features, do them right, secure and safely.

01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:49.040
And don't just take them away or not create them because, oh, it might be, you know,

01:09:49.180 --> 01:09:51.920
it's not, you know, if it's not ready, don't release it.

01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:53.220
But don't stop developing them.

01:09:53.400 --> 01:09:54.580
Don't stop making features.

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I don't like, I don't, I don't think that's right.

01:09:58.320 --> 01:10:01.760
But anyway, we are done for this episode.

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We left off on, what was it, 60, we'll start with 65 next time.

01:10:07.280 --> 01:10:12.400
We are out of the Microsoft section, which, again, I don't see a lot of those really were Microsoft only.

01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:18.580
And for all the listeners out there, too, let us know, you know, are you enjoying going through this?

01:10:18.660 --> 01:10:21.660
You know, we're having some fun talking about that, but let us know what you want to hear.

01:10:21.900 --> 01:10:23.140
If you want to hear this, keep going.

01:10:23.260 --> 01:10:23.700
Let us know.

01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:26.640
If you say shut up and talk about something else, let us know that, too.

01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:26.980
Right.

01:10:27.120 --> 01:10:30.260
And what I'm really trying to do is still stick with a good topic.

01:10:30.380 --> 01:10:33.920
Like, I think port knocking is very interesting, and I'm going to be reading up on it.

01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:36.600
So I like to slip this in with other topics.

01:10:36.700 --> 01:10:38.880
I don't want to do an only show with only this.

01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:41.760
So I kind of mix a few in at the end of each one.

01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:43.500
But, yeah, if you're getting tired of hearing these or whatever.

01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:46.220
The other thing is, I haven't read this completely yet.

01:10:46.320 --> 01:10:48.200
I skimmed it when I first got it and thought it was interesting.

01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:54.400
But this is spontaneous that I'm reading these as we go along and kind of making decisions and thinking for myself.

01:10:54.660 --> 01:10:57.580
So that's another reason I thought it would be interesting.

01:10:57.740 --> 01:11:02.360
But, yes, radio at binrev.com is where you can e-mail us at and let us know.

01:11:03.020 --> 01:11:08.540
And, of course, it is time to do shout-outs, and mine are pretty simple this time.

01:11:08.540 --> 01:11:17.640
I shout-out everybody at my 2600 meeting, particularly 0DB, who actually we were talking about heading up to New York together.

01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:20.260
So we're going to see how that works up for the fifth hope.

01:11:20.860 --> 01:11:22.180
So we may be able to work that out.

01:11:22.500 --> 01:11:23.320
So what do you got?

01:11:23.500 --> 01:11:24.740
Who do you want to shout-out this time?

01:11:25.360 --> 01:11:27.360
Well, again, I'll echo your sentiments.

01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:30.680
Shouts to the people here at the PHX 2600 stuff.

01:11:31.400 --> 01:11:33.660
And shouts to my boy Bill.

01:11:34.860 --> 01:11:35.960
My boy Bill Gates.

01:11:36.080 --> 01:11:37.660
You know, I'd be pimping you, man.

01:11:37.700 --> 01:11:38.520
I'd be wearing your shirt.

01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:46.000
You know, I don't think you're going to get a lot of support e-mails on that one.

01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:47.920
I've got to tell you something that's really funny, though.

01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:49.760
So the 2600 magazine came out.

01:11:49.860 --> 01:11:50.640
You know, we're in Borders.

01:11:50.780 --> 01:11:51.660
I got there a little early.

01:11:51.780 --> 01:11:53.220
I'm wearing this Microsoft T-shirt.

01:11:53.780 --> 01:11:57.380
And I go by the 2600 magazine, and there's this young guy behind the counter.

01:11:57.740 --> 01:12:00.660
And he's looking at the 2600 magazine, and he's looking at my Microsoft shirt.

01:12:00.740 --> 01:12:04.000
And he's looking at the 2600 magazine saying, something's not right here.

01:12:04.040 --> 01:12:06.180
And I said, yeah, it's just really to mess with people's minds.

01:12:06.180 --> 01:12:09.780
So shouts as well to Seth at Borders at 24th and Camelback.

01:12:10.320 --> 01:12:11.040
All right.

01:12:11.040 --> 01:12:16.160
And, you know what, and since you brought it up, Decoder and Lucky225 both had articles in there this time.

01:12:16.240 --> 01:12:17.240
So shout-outs to them.

01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:20.280
Can't wait to read them if I ever get my issue.

01:12:21.820 --> 01:12:22.480
Yeah, well.

01:12:22.940 --> 01:12:24.420
Yeah, I won't even go there.

01:12:25.060 --> 01:12:27.960
Got to go look at it in the bookstore because I haven't gotten mine mailed to me yet.

01:12:28.020 --> 01:12:30.040
But that's all for me.

01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:34.280
Closing music this time is from Shun, a group we've had on before.

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This is a different track.

01:12:35.120 --> 01:12:36.860
It's called Call Out the Lions.

01:12:36.860 --> 01:12:39.120
And that's going to wrap it up.

01:12:39.280 --> 01:12:40.840
Episode 32 is in the books.

01:12:41.460 --> 01:12:45.680
Rax, I think we will have to continue this next week.

01:12:45.780 --> 01:12:46.560
Same hack time.

01:12:47.020 --> 01:12:47.720
Same hack channel.

01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:53.540
Don't sit in the corner waiting for your chance.

01:12:53.540 --> 01:12:57.600
Make your own music start your own dance.

01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:13.060
Sometimes I'm a big, big liar.

01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:16.100
Sometimes I'm just a big.

01:13:16.340 --> 01:13:19.200
I don't know, no, I don't know.

01:13:19.460 --> 01:13:22.340
But baby, baby, baby, I want to get bigger.

01:13:22.340 --> 01:13:23.540
Run now.

01:13:25.440 --> 01:13:26.600
Run now.

01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:29.700
Run now.

01:13:31.700 --> 01:13:32.780
Run now.

01:13:35.120 --> 01:13:37.740
Oh, baby, I like the king.

01:13:38.420 --> 01:13:40.920
Oh, baby, I like the dance.

01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:43.980
Oh, baby, I like the smile.

01:13:44.700 --> 01:13:47.020
Oh, baby, I'm the biggest award.

01:13:47.260 --> 01:13:50.020
Another ginger, ginger, on the dance floor.

01:13:50.380 --> 01:13:53.100
Another ginger, ginger, ginger, ginger, ginger, ginger, ginger, ginger.

01:13:53.100 --> 01:13:54.100
That's my opportunity.

01:13:54.100 --> 01:13:56.680
The legend goes that's the fuck I got.

01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:00.440
Oh, baby.

01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:01.220
Oh, baby.

01:14:01.940 --> 01:14:03.120
Oh, baby.

01:14:03.480 --> 01:14:04.160
Oh, baby.

01:14:04.320 --> 01:14:04.740
Oh, baby.

01:14:04.740 --> 01:14:05.420
Oh, baby.

01:14:05.420 --> 01:14:06.120
Oh, baby.

01:14:06.120 --> 01:14:07.080
Oh, baby.

01:14:07.080 --> 01:14:07.220
Oh, baby.

01:14:07.220 --> 01:14:08.020
Happy that gracias.

01:14:08.020 --> 01:14:10.380
Through our hands.

01:14:10.420 --> 01:14:11.300
Oh, baby.

01:14:11.300 --> 01:14:12.020
If you dare sieht.

01:14:12.020 --> 01:14:12.100
시 scares.

01:14:12.100 --> 01:14:14.780
That's why I gotta call out the police

01:14:14.780 --> 01:14:18.040
I don't worry about what I ain't got

01:14:18.040 --> 01:14:19.820
God, why you are?

01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:21.280
Come with me, baby

01:14:21.280 --> 01:14:22.880
God, why you are?

01:14:23.080 --> 01:14:24.440
Come with me, baby

01:14:24.440 --> 01:14:25.940
God, why you are?

01:14:26.200 --> 01:14:27.520
Come with me, baby

01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:30.880
Come with me, baby

01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:46.480
I ripped it off before you ripped it off

01:14:46.480 --> 01:14:49.620
So don't rip me off or I'll rip you off

01:14:49.620 --> 01:15:05.100
Do I care now about the police?

01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:08.220
That's why I gotta call out the police

01:15:08.220 --> 01:15:11.420
I don't worry about what I ain't got

01:15:11.420 --> 01:15:13.140
God, why you are?

01:15:13.400 --> 01:15:14.720
Come with me, baby

01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:16.300
God, why you are?

01:15:16.480 --> 01:15:17.720
Come with me, baby

01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:19.380
From my what you are

01:15:19.380 --> 01:15:20.600
Come with me, baby

01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:22.460
From my what you are

01:15:22.460 --> 01:15:24.600
Come with me, baby

01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:27.280
Are we there yet?

01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:29.940
Is this it?

01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:34.000
I'm so sick of trying

01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:37.760
Call off the Lions

01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:39.280
Call off the Lions

01:15:39.280 --> 01:15:40.800
Call off the Lions

01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:42.400
Call off the Lions

01:15:42.400 --> 01:15:43.960
Call off the Lions

01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:45.480
Call off the Lions

01:15:45.480 --> 01:15:47.000
Call off the Lions

01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:51.580
I'll be fine, I'll be fine, I'll be fine

01:15:51.580 --> 01:15:56.000
I'll be fine, I'll be fine, I'll be fine

01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:14.360
Don't sit in the corner waiting for your chance

01:16:14.360 --> 01:16:18.400
Make your own music, start your own dance