WEBVTT

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This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers

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I see in binary, I speak source code

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Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose

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In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho

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Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold

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I was a dick with my 56

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Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable

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On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo

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On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero

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In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreampacks

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You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle

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Our exchange you could never stifle

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In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug

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I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z

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Your CG, it's all gonna be free

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Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely

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You feel that rattle in your bones?

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When I tell you we just hacked out Jones

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At NASDAQ, leave your fight on your back

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals

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Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RAMs, Sips, Sips

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack

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Alright, hello once again ladies and gentlemen

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You know, I'm just so bummed out, I'm just so not motivated

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I'm so bummed out

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Hi guys

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This is Binary Revolution Radio

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Yes

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As you can hear, Voodoo Hal is on the show

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I am Stankdawg, this is episode 39

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I don't, I don't even want to talk to what, tell them what the air date and all that stuff is

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I don't know how, um, air date will be the 30th, which is Tuesday

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No, I'm just so bummed

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Alright, let me, I'll get it together

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Let me just, let me just get my, get a deep breath

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I'm just, I'm just suffering from hack failure

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I just hate, oh, I failed

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I failed miserably and it's not a good feeling

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But, as you heard, we are here

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March 30th, 2004

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First aired

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Voodoo Hal is on the line

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I am Stankdawg

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Probably already said that

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And I'm just, I'm so depressed

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Um, let's go into housekeeping

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Let me see if I can, let me see if I can get some, uh

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Get my game face on here, as they say

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Um, why don't we start off talking about hack radio

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As a matter of fact, you talk about hack radio

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I, I need a moment

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I'm getting verklempt

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Uh, okay, well, hack radio is coming along quite well

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Um, pretty much done with the, most of the, um, scheduling software

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So you guys should start seeing actual things scheduled

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Um, RFA episodes, something through the latest

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I don't even remember at this point

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Are going into the mix

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Um, hopefully as we speak

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I'm looking at the script right now and making some changes

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So, um, by the time this airs

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You should be hearing RFA in the mix

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Um, I guess that's all the news for hack radio I have

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Oh, I guess, uh, we're going to talk about stats

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We did seem to have done last, well, the last, well, fuck

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Yeah, that, you know

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Last week with hack and slash

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That, that was, I'm, that's a good thing to bring up

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That'll, that'll cheer me up

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We did, we did really well last week

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We had, um, we finally

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Actually, that was our first official airing on hack radio

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Um, as the main stream or split stream

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Well, actually, it was split completely equally

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We had, um, an equal number of listeners over on Rant Radio servers

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As we did on our own servers

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So we've got some load balancing going on

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We've got people listening on multiple channels

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So that was really cool

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And, yes, like you said, our ratings were at an all-time high

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So that was pretty cool

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So we know the server can handle the load now

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Which is another test we wanted to do

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So, um, I guess we could probably jump into some emails

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Reading it, it'll, it'll always cheer me up

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Because people always have a lot of good stuff to say

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So let me, let me jump into some emails

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Maybe that'll get me motivated and going again

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Um, and plus, am I bringing you down?

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I don't want to bring you down

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No, don't bring me down

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Even though you helped, you helped me fail

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Just for the record

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Well, no, you didn't

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But I failed on my own, damn it

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Oh, that really sucks

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Anyway, email

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I hope you succeeded for failing

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Well, you know what is, what makes it really frustrating

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And I know the listeners are like

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What the hell are you talking about

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But I thought we had a big one

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And it got away

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It's like that big, you know, that big fish that got away

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Damn it

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Alright, email number one

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First email we got was

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Uh, didn't have a name on it, actually

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But, this is a question, actually

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That I get fairly frequently

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Uh, this one says

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Yo man, what is up?

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I am sending you this

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Because I heard a TTY version of Down In It

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On your show and loved it

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I want a copy

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Where's it at?

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If you can help me locate this

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That would be cool

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Or I guess I must make my own

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Heh

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Alright, late

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Um, I get a lot of this

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People like the closing music

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Whatever it happens to be

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And, of course, I mix it up a lot

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With a lot of independent artists

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Net artists, stuff like that

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Who give me permission to play their music

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And the one he's referring to

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Down In It, the TTY Down In

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It was from

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The Telephonic Craptacular

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Which we were just talking about

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Offline earlier

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Episode 25

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Um, and that

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Just like all of the closing music

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Is up on the

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Radio.binrev.com page

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Every time we put up a new episode

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I'd say the name

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Of who the closing music was

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The closing artist

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And a link to their site

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So, check that out

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That particular one was

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Was called Spleen Harvest

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So, if you go to

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Radio.binrev.com

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You can go down to

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Episode 25

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I think that's what it was

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I'm pretty sure that's what it was

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And, um

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Click through and check out

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That track

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As well as some others

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So, and that again

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Holds true for

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Every episode

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I make sure I put it up there

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And put links to it

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That's the whole point

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You know, is to promote

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Independent music

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And independent artists

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Uh, email number two

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Was from XZilla

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And this is another one I got

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After my rant on how much

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I hate AOL

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And AOL Instant Messenger

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In, in, specifically

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Um

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This one was from

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XZilla

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Like I said

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He, he says

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I was listening to episode 36

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And I heard how you had

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Dropped AIM

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Cause, well, basically

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They suck

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Well, yeah

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That's the understatement

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Of the year

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No later than an hour

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After listening

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I found an ad hack

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For AIM

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And I figured I'd give it a try

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First I uninstalled

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My current AIM

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And upgraded to the

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Most recent version

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Then installed the hack

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To my surprise

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It worked great

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There were no advertisements

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And when I checked

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My program files

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Viewpoint Media Player

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Wasn't there

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Oh, and for the record

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I've never seen

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Free.aol.com

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In my IE trusted sites

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Just think

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Just figured I'd let you know

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About another possible alternative

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And the link

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Which, we'll put this up

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In the show notes

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But it's

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Aftermath.dindns.org

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Slash AOL hack

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So, yeah

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Again, I get emails

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From people

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Ever since I

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I think actually

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Before 36

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When I very first

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Went off on it

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Saying that there were

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Hacks and that there were

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Tricks

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And there was a 2600 article

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Wasn't there

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A year or so ago

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About how to remove

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Some of the ads

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And stuff

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But, you know

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It was just

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I got tired of it

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I just got tired

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Of having to hack

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AOL's crap

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And to break it apart

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It's fun

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And it's alright

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To do it the first

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Couple times

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But then when you

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Have to do it

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Over and over

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And over again

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It just gets old

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And it was just

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The straw that broke

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The camel's back for me

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And I just said

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You know what

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Forget it

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They suck

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AOL is suck

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I hope they just

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Disappear off the

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Face of the planet

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There's other

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Instant messaging

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Software out there

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And they've got

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This mindset

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That they're the

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Big ones

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They're the

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First

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And they're the

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Most popular

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And most number

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Of users

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And you know what

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Somebody's gonna

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Knock them off

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There's other

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Competing alternatives

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That are just as

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Good if not better

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So I just don't

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Want to deal with

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Hacking anymore

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I couldn't care less

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Couldn't care less

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Now the free

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AOL.com

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And the trusted zones

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Maybe that's been

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Taken out

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Now again that was

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Something I

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If I remember correctly

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That was something

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I had read while

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Researching my

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Problems with AIM

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Someone else

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Making that accusation

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And I've never

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Looked frankly

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To see if it was

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In mine

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So maybe

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There was such

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An uproar

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About that

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That they

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Removed it

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But I haven't

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Heard anything

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Either way

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So

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Anyway

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Yes thank you

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For that email

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And I've thought

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About it

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And I've had

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Other people

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Give me similar

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Hacks or

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Mentions of

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Different hacks

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And websites

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And I just

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Don't want to

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Deal with it

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Don't want to

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Deal with it

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Trillian gets

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The job done

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Good enough

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For now

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It has

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Annoyances about it

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But it's still

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Infinitely better

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Than AIM

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Plus I get

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To tie in

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All my other

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Stuff too

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Down with the

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Man

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And you know

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The thing about

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Trillian that I

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Like best is

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I go in there

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And I override

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The defaults of

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Course but it

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Has logging built

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Into it

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And I've never

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Cared

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I you know

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To me an

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Instant message

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Is just like

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You know

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A quick chat

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A quick you know

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Couple lines of

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Code or something

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You want to send

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To somebody a link

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And I never

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Even thought about

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Or cared about

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Logging

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I was like

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I figured that'd be

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One of those features

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That big deal

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You know who

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Who cares

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But in retrospect

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Now I find myself

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Using that a lot

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I'll go back

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And I'm like

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You know what

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I sent that link

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To Voodoo

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How last week

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Let me go back

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And see you

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Open up the window

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And it has the

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Log in there

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Now it's only

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1024k

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But I upped it

09:52.700 --> 09:53.440
To 8

09:53.440 --> 09:56.640
So I have a

09:56.640 --> 09:57.760
Longer log

09:57.760 --> 09:59.300
Of each individual

09:59.300 --> 10:01.620
Session I guess

10:01.620 --> 10:01.920
If you want to

10:01.920 --> 10:02.400
Call it that

10:02.400 --> 10:03.580
So it's come in

10:03.580 --> 10:04.420
Surprisingly handy

10:04.420 --> 10:05.420
Especially codes

10:05.420 --> 10:06.180
And URLs

10:06.180 --> 10:07.080
And stuff like that

10:07.080 --> 10:08.040
I can go back

10:08.040 --> 10:08.640
And find that

10:08.640 --> 10:09.080
And that's really

10:09.080 --> 10:09.860
I've actually

10:09.860 --> 10:10.500
Found occasion

10:10.500 --> 10:11.120
To use that

10:11.120 --> 10:12.560
And actually

10:12.560 --> 10:13.000
I was talking

10:13.000 --> 10:13.680
To Nthory

10:13.680 --> 10:14.400
One day

10:14.400 --> 10:14.820
And I had

10:14.820 --> 10:15.400
Given him

10:15.400 --> 10:16.660
What was it

10:16.660 --> 10:17.180
A snippet

10:17.180 --> 10:17.840
No he had

10:17.840 --> 10:18.940
What was it

10:18.940 --> 10:19.700
We had given

10:19.700 --> 10:20.040
Each other

10:20.040 --> 10:20.520
Somebody had given

10:20.520 --> 10:20.860
Each other

10:20.860 --> 10:22.040
A little bit of code

10:22.040 --> 10:23.300
And I went back

10:23.300 --> 10:24.000
To look for it

10:24.000 --> 10:24.780
And it had gone

10:24.780 --> 10:25.240
Out of that

10:25.240 --> 10:25.940
1 meg buffer

10:25.940 --> 10:26.520
It was already

10:26.520 --> 10:27.460
Gone past

10:27.460 --> 10:29.160
So I increased

10:29.160 --> 10:29.760
It to 8

10:29.760 --> 10:30.660
So that I'd have

10:30.660 --> 10:31.060
More room

10:31.060 --> 10:31.540
So it would keep

10:31.540 --> 10:31.800
More

10:31.800 --> 10:33.240
So it had just

10:33.240 --> 10:34.000
Rolled off

10:34.000 --> 10:34.340
I guess

10:34.340 --> 10:34.860
Actually it's not

10:34.860 --> 10:35.240
A meg

10:35.240 --> 10:36.620
It's 1,024

10:36.620 --> 10:37.740
Characters

10:37.740 --> 10:40.020
So

10:40.020 --> 10:42.720
Let's see

10:42.720 --> 10:44.200
Where was I

10:44.200 --> 10:44.640
I am so

10:44.640 --> 10:45.780
Still so bummed

10:45.780 --> 10:46.920
I got another

10:46.920 --> 10:47.620
Email from

10:47.620 --> 10:48.480
Herbal Child

10:48.480 --> 10:50.100
Who

10:50.100 --> 10:51.400
We've known for a while

10:51.400 --> 10:51.980
Actually I know

10:51.980 --> 10:52.520
Herbal Child

10:52.520 --> 10:53.560
So shout out

10:53.560 --> 10:53.880
To him

10:53.880 --> 10:54.820
Hey Stank

10:54.820 --> 10:55.820
I was watching

10:55.820 --> 10:56.620
The History Channel

10:56.620 --> 10:57.380
Actually this is a good one

10:57.380 --> 10:57.980
I like this one

10:57.980 --> 10:58.820
Hey Stank

10:58.820 --> 10:59.260
I was watching

10:59.260 --> 11:00.000
The History Channel

11:00.000 --> 11:00.460
Today

11:00.460 --> 11:02.260
Or as we like to call it

11:02.260 --> 11:03.620
The Hitler Channel

11:03.620 --> 11:06.060
And I saw

11:06.060 --> 11:06.920
I added that

11:06.920 --> 11:07.600
Not him by the way

11:07.600 --> 11:08.920
And I saw a show

11:08.920 --> 11:09.800
About the history

11:09.800 --> 11:10.940
Of booby trapping

11:10.940 --> 11:12.440
It went from Vietnam

11:12.440 --> 11:13.360
To present day

11:13.360 --> 11:13.900
Kind of thing

11:13.900 --> 11:15.000
But what interested me

11:15.000 --> 11:16.240
Was near the end

11:16.240 --> 11:17.840
They talked about

11:17.840 --> 11:18.740
The new form

11:18.740 --> 11:19.560
Of booby trapping

11:19.560 --> 11:20.240
Viruses

11:20.240 --> 11:21.740
They were interviewing

11:21.740 --> 11:23.040
People from Symantec

11:23.040 --> 11:24.160
And it was weird

11:24.160 --> 11:24.860
That they were talking

11:24.860 --> 11:25.560
About it in very

11:25.560 --> 11:26.540
General terms

11:26.540 --> 11:27.320
But then when they

11:27.320 --> 11:28.460
But then they went

11:28.460 --> 11:29.240
On to say

11:29.240 --> 11:30.400
That Microsoft

11:30.400 --> 11:31.540
Has a way to fight it

11:31.540 --> 11:33.000
What they were saying

11:33.000 --> 11:33.360
Was how

11:33.360 --> 11:34.220
In Windows XP

11:34.220 --> 11:35.480
Has activation codes

11:35.480 --> 11:36.080
And what not

11:36.080 --> 11:37.040
Wow what security

11:37.040 --> 11:39.040
But it also said

11:39.040 --> 11:39.880
That if your codes

11:39.880 --> 11:41.000
Don't match your system

11:41.000 --> 11:41.900
Or your OS

11:41.900 --> 11:42.900
Will take a

11:42.900 --> 11:44.040
Dump

11:44.040 --> 11:45.180
We'll be polite

11:45.180 --> 11:46.580
Well I haven't ever

11:46.580 --> 11:47.580
Heard of this happening

11:47.580 --> 11:48.420
Even in the most

11:48.420 --> 11:49.600
Nubious people I know

11:49.600 --> 11:50.420
And how would they

11:50.420 --> 11:50.920
Know anyway

11:50.920 --> 11:51.700
You think that info

11:51.700 --> 11:52.280
Was transmitted

11:52.280 --> 11:53.680
During error reports

11:53.680 --> 11:54.700
I'm not sure

11:54.700 --> 11:55.360
And would like

11:55.360 --> 11:57.460
To possibly explore this

11:57.460 --> 11:59.580
Okay herbal child

11:59.580 --> 12:00.240
First of all

12:00.240 --> 12:01.260
I don't know

12:01.260 --> 12:02.080
I can't give you

12:02.080 --> 12:02.880
A straight answer to this

12:02.880 --> 12:03.280
Voodoo Hal

12:03.280 --> 12:04.420
I don't think you could either

12:04.420 --> 12:04.900
Can you

12:04.900 --> 12:06.260
Actually

12:06.260 --> 12:07.700
If I understood

12:07.700 --> 12:08.820
The email correctly

12:08.820 --> 12:09.400
Yeah

12:09.400 --> 12:10.660
If

12:10.660 --> 12:11.880
We had

12:11.880 --> 12:12.740
A bunch of clients

12:12.740 --> 12:13.340
Back in the day

12:13.340 --> 12:14.100
Who actually used

12:14.100 --> 12:14.940
The XP Home

12:14.940 --> 12:16.140
And Windows

12:16.140 --> 12:17.120
Would XP

12:17.120 --> 12:18.540
I know

12:18.540 --> 12:19.400
At least XP Home

12:19.400 --> 12:20.460
If it wasn't

12:20.460 --> 12:21.300
A pirated copy

12:21.300 --> 12:24.320
Would actually

12:24.320 --> 12:25.660
Force you to

12:25.660 --> 12:26.680
Connect to Microsoft

12:26.680 --> 12:27.600
To validate

12:27.600 --> 12:28.700
Your registration codes

12:28.700 --> 12:29.760
And if they weren't

12:29.760 --> 12:30.380
Valid you had

12:30.380 --> 12:31.040
Up to 30 days

12:31.040 --> 12:31.960
Before the machine

12:31.960 --> 12:32.500
Wouldn't boot

12:32.500 --> 12:33.300
At least that's

12:33.300 --> 12:34.360
What Microsoft warned

12:34.360 --> 12:36.180
I've never seen

12:36.180 --> 12:36.920
It actually happen

12:36.920 --> 12:37.900
But you know

12:37.900 --> 12:38.780
That's Microsoft

12:38.780 --> 12:39.780
Saying you know

12:39.780 --> 12:40.620
Whatever

12:40.620 --> 12:41.620
But also Microsoft

12:41.620 --> 12:42.280
Has a great way

12:42.280 --> 12:43.680
To fight any virus

12:43.680 --> 12:44.000
It's called

12:44.000 --> 12:44.840
The blue screen of death

12:44.840 --> 12:46.180
Well yeah

12:46.180 --> 12:46.880
It can't run

12:46.880 --> 12:47.860
It can't do anything

12:47.860 --> 12:48.220
Yeah

12:48.220 --> 12:49.380
Well I guess

12:49.380 --> 12:49.700
That's true

12:49.700 --> 12:50.300
Now I did

12:50.300 --> 12:52.520
I had a machine

12:52.520 --> 12:54.020
Where I basically

12:54.020 --> 12:56.060
Swapped out the motherboard

12:56.060 --> 12:56.660
You know

12:56.660 --> 12:57.820
Basically put the hard drive

12:57.820 --> 12:59.000
With everything installed

12:59.000 --> 12:59.820
Into a new box

12:59.820 --> 13:00.620
With new motherboard

13:00.620 --> 13:01.820
And new processor memory

13:01.820 --> 13:02.700
Yada yada yada

13:02.700 --> 13:03.860
And it did come up

13:03.860 --> 13:04.440
Saying that I had

13:04.440 --> 13:05.620
Changed too many things

13:05.620 --> 13:06.880
And

13:06.880 --> 13:08.420
I didn't even want

13:08.420 --> 13:08.900
To deal with it

13:08.900 --> 13:09.620
What I did instead

13:09.620 --> 13:10.400
Was I just installed

13:10.400 --> 13:11.260
Linux on it anyway

13:11.260 --> 13:12.740
So I mean

13:12.740 --> 13:14.000
I avoided the problem

13:14.000 --> 13:14.480
Completely

13:14.480 --> 13:15.300
So I can't tell you

13:15.300 --> 13:16.080
How far

13:16.080 --> 13:16.880
What you have to do

13:16.880 --> 13:17.840
To get it going again

13:17.840 --> 13:18.840
Isn't that the answer

13:18.840 --> 13:20.040
To every Microsoft problem

13:20.040 --> 13:21.040
Install Linux

13:21.040 --> 13:21.600
Yeah

13:21.600 --> 13:22.580
Yeah pretty much

13:22.580 --> 13:24.200
The

13:24.200 --> 13:25.840
But you know

13:25.840 --> 13:26.220
There is

13:26.220 --> 13:27.660
The fact that

13:27.660 --> 13:28.680
You know

13:28.680 --> 13:29.200
This question

13:29.200 --> 13:30.320
Comes up a lot

13:30.320 --> 13:31.780
What information

13:31.780 --> 13:32.720
Gets sent to Microsoft

13:32.720 --> 13:34.860
And I don't think

13:34.860 --> 13:35.560
Anyone can answer

13:35.560 --> 13:36.060
That question

13:36.060 --> 13:37.640
With 100% certainty

13:37.640 --> 13:39.520
Conspiracy theorists

13:39.520 --> 13:39.860
Have wondered

13:39.860 --> 13:40.680
For the longest time

13:40.680 --> 13:41.120
You can go out

13:41.120 --> 13:41.800
To news groups

13:41.800 --> 13:42.820
And tons of websites

13:42.820 --> 13:44.020
Of people asking that

13:44.020 --> 13:46.820
According to their

13:46.820 --> 13:48.000
Disclaimers and stuff

13:48.000 --> 13:49.260
On the Microsoft websites

13:49.260 --> 13:49.720
And

13:49.720 --> 13:50.940
You know

13:50.940 --> 13:52.820
When a crash

13:52.820 --> 13:53.740
An application crash

13:53.740 --> 13:54.040
And it says

13:54.040 --> 13:54.460
Do you want to

13:54.460 --> 13:55.100
Transmit this

13:55.100 --> 13:55.660
If you read it

13:55.660 --> 13:56.320
It tells you

13:56.320 --> 13:57.340
That it won't send

13:57.340 --> 13:58.320
Personal information

13:58.320 --> 13:59.480
You know

13:59.480 --> 14:00.500
Do you believe that or not

14:00.500 --> 14:01.040
When you go to

14:01.040 --> 14:01.800
Windows Update

14:01.800 --> 14:02.920
It claims that it's not

14:02.920 --> 14:04.860
Uniquely identifying anything

14:04.860 --> 14:05.180
But

14:05.180 --> 14:06.300
It's all about

14:06.300 --> 14:07.420
Whether you can

14:07.420 --> 14:08.140
Believe it or not

14:08.140 --> 14:09.800
I don't know

14:09.800 --> 14:10.640
As much as I

14:10.640 --> 14:11.260
You know

14:11.260 --> 14:12.780
Joke about Microsoft

14:12.780 --> 14:14.140
I think they're

14:14.140 --> 14:14.880
At least smarter

14:14.880 --> 14:15.480
Than that

14:15.480 --> 14:16.520
If they're going to

14:16.520 --> 14:17.580
Get their information

14:17.580 --> 14:18.220
It would hopefully

14:18.220 --> 14:18.880
Be from some

14:18.880 --> 14:19.720
Other source

14:19.720 --> 14:21.320
Then blatantly say

14:21.320 --> 14:21.940
Yeah we're not going

14:21.940 --> 14:22.300
To send your

14:22.300 --> 14:23.100
Personal information

14:23.100 --> 14:24.160
And then go ahead

14:24.160 --> 14:24.720
And do it

14:24.720 --> 14:26.700
But that's just me

14:26.700 --> 14:27.400
Yeah well I mean

14:27.400 --> 14:28.440
The danger of

14:28.440 --> 14:30.900
I mean that's a huge

14:30.900 --> 14:32.340
Even Microsoft

14:32.340 --> 14:33.480
Is not that big

14:33.480 --> 14:34.040
That they would take

14:34.040 --> 14:35.040
That much of a risk

14:35.040 --> 14:35.860
Right

14:35.860 --> 14:36.940
I mean the class action

14:36.940 --> 14:37.440
I mean they're

14:37.440 --> 14:38.320
They're huge

14:38.320 --> 14:39.520
They're on how many

14:39.520 --> 14:40.140
I'm not even going

14:40.140 --> 14:40.620
To go into

14:40.620 --> 14:42.100
Statistics

14:42.100 --> 14:42.760
On how many

14:42.760 --> 14:43.360
Percentage of

14:43.360 --> 14:43.920
Desktops

14:43.920 --> 14:44.840
And blah blah blah

14:44.840 --> 14:46.120
The class action

14:46.120 --> 14:46.840
Lawsuit from

14:46.840 --> 14:47.700
Something like that

14:47.700 --> 14:48.980
Would destroy

14:48.980 --> 14:49.820
Even Microsoft

14:49.820 --> 14:50.940
Yeah that would be

14:50.940 --> 14:51.700
Very nasty

14:51.700 --> 14:52.220
Yeah well

14:52.220 --> 14:53.280
Considering that

14:53.280 --> 14:54.400
European Union

14:54.400 --> 14:55.300
Lawsuit

14:55.300 --> 14:56.680
Or not lawsuit

14:56.680 --> 14:57.600
But are you

14:57.600 --> 14:58.280
Real about that

14:58.280 --> 14:59.360
I don't think so

14:59.360 --> 15:00.320
The European Union

15:00.320 --> 15:01.000
Is forcing them to

15:01.000 --> 15:02.160
Pay like 600 million

15:02.160 --> 15:03.140
Euros or something

15:03.140 --> 15:03.780
Woo

15:03.780 --> 15:04.840
Yeah it was

15:04.840 --> 15:05.740
Massive

15:05.740 --> 15:07.260
Wow no I did not

15:07.260 --> 15:07.680
Hear that

15:07.680 --> 15:08.200
We might have to

15:08.200 --> 15:08.800
Look into that

15:08.800 --> 15:12.480
And the other

15:12.480 --> 15:12.820
Thing I was

15:12.820 --> 15:13.480
Wondering is

15:13.480 --> 15:14.480
You know recently

15:14.480 --> 15:15.420
We talked about

15:15.420 --> 15:15.880
On the show

15:15.880 --> 15:16.280
And of course

15:16.280 --> 15:16.960
Floating around

15:16.960 --> 15:18.320
Was the leaked

15:18.320 --> 15:19.120
Source code from

15:19.120 --> 15:19.480
Microsoft

15:19.480 --> 15:20.860
And I would also

15:20.860 --> 15:21.880
Think that again

15:21.880 --> 15:22.320
We don't know

15:22.320 --> 15:23.420
What exactly was

15:23.420 --> 15:24.360
Leaked or how much

15:24.360 --> 15:25.080
Or what it was

15:25.080 --> 15:25.580
You know which

15:25.580 --> 15:26.420
Modules and stuff

15:26.420 --> 15:27.320
But you would think

15:27.320 --> 15:27.840
If somebody would

15:27.840 --> 15:28.480
Have noticed something

15:28.480 --> 15:29.360
In there it would

15:29.360 --> 15:30.020
Have been brought up

15:30.020 --> 15:30.780
Immediately or brought

15:30.780 --> 15:31.540
To our attention by

15:31.540 --> 15:32.600
Now too so we can

15:32.600 --> 15:33.440
Assume that it's not

15:33.440 --> 15:35.260
There or that part

15:35.260 --> 15:36.480
Of the code wasn't

15:36.480 --> 15:37.160
That which was

15:37.160 --> 15:37.660
Released

15:37.660 --> 15:39.800
So we don't

15:39.800 --> 15:40.640
Know for certain

15:40.640 --> 15:41.920
You know I guess

15:41.920 --> 15:42.800
Like like you said

15:42.800 --> 15:43.340
You just have to

15:43.340 --> 15:44.120
Use your judgment

15:44.120 --> 15:45.860
And I guess

15:45.860 --> 15:46.840
Err in the side

15:46.840 --> 15:47.300
Of caution

15:47.300 --> 15:48.000
I don't send

15:48.000 --> 15:48.580
Crash reports

15:48.580 --> 15:49.160
To anybody

15:49.160 --> 15:51.060
Legitimate or not

15:51.060 --> 15:51.720
Even at work

15:51.720 --> 15:52.600
You know which

15:52.600 --> 15:53.200
Of course we have

15:53.200 --> 15:53.980
Site license and

15:53.980 --> 15:54.740
Everything's perfectly

15:54.740 --> 15:55.660
Legal and of course

15:55.660 --> 15:56.440
I am at home too

15:56.440 --> 15:58.400
But I'm not sending

15:58.400 --> 15:59.040
Any of that to them

15:59.040 --> 15:59.660
Because I just

15:59.660 --> 16:01.220
A it's not going to

16:01.220 --> 16:01.500
Help

16:01.500 --> 16:03.660
You know all you do

16:03.660 --> 16:04.200
Is it says

16:04.200 --> 16:05.240
Thank you for

16:05.240 --> 16:05.920
Submitting this

16:05.920 --> 16:06.940
We can't do jack

16:06.940 --> 16:07.520
Shit about your

16:07.520 --> 16:07.920
Computer

16:07.920 --> 16:08.720
You know it should

16:08.720 --> 16:09.280
Come up like you

16:09.280 --> 16:09.680
Said and say

16:09.680 --> 16:10.260
Please install

16:10.260 --> 16:10.600
Linux

16:10.600 --> 16:11.900
That's the only

16:11.900 --> 16:12.540
You know that's

16:12.540 --> 16:13.380
The only solution

16:13.380 --> 16:16.240
Yeah it's worthless

16:16.240 --> 16:17.320
Anyway as far as

16:17.320 --> 16:18.240
Those error reports

16:18.240 --> 16:18.560
But

16:18.560 --> 16:20.000
I did some quick

16:20.000 --> 16:20.860
Research and

16:20.860 --> 16:22.540
It's 615 million

16:22.540 --> 16:23.360
Dollars or

16:23.360 --> 16:24.180
Approximately

16:24.180 --> 16:25.280
500 million euros

16:25.280 --> 16:26.460
And what was that

16:26.460 --> 16:26.940
About again

16:26.940 --> 16:29.100
Antitrust for the

16:29.100 --> 16:29.780
European Union

16:29.780 --> 16:30.540
Basically the same

16:30.540 --> 16:31.000
Thing they went

16:31.000 --> 16:31.580
Through with us

16:31.580 --> 16:32.460
But apparently

16:32.460 --> 16:33.720
They get screwed

16:33.720 --> 16:34.220
No matter where

16:34.220 --> 16:34.600
They go

16:34.600 --> 16:36.780
Well hey

16:36.780 --> 16:37.900
You do bad things

16:37.900 --> 16:38.540
You have to pay

16:38.540 --> 16:39.260
The consequences

16:39.260 --> 16:41.380
Alright

16:41.380 --> 16:42.540
I have one more

16:42.540 --> 16:42.880
Email

16:42.880 --> 16:43.420
Now this one's

16:43.420 --> 16:44.300
Kind of long

16:44.300 --> 16:46.720
And I've had a

16:46.720 --> 16:47.440
Couple emails on

16:47.440 --> 16:48.160
This topic as

16:48.160 --> 16:49.100
Well but I'm

16:49.100 --> 16:49.540
Going to choose

16:49.540 --> 16:50.520
To read this one

16:50.520 --> 16:51.420
On the show

16:51.420 --> 16:52.840
Because this

16:52.840 --> 16:53.820
Person was pretty

16:53.820 --> 16:54.960
Animated about

16:54.960 --> 16:57.340
The topic

16:57.340 --> 16:58.240
And that's a

16:58.240 --> 16:59.020
Topic that I was

16:59.020 --> 16:59.580
Pretty animated

16:59.580 --> 17:00.280
About on the show

17:00.280 --> 17:01.660
Too and that is

17:01.660 --> 17:02.900
The RFID tags

17:02.900 --> 17:04.220
So this person

17:04.220 --> 17:05.520
Sent me a long

17:05.520 --> 17:06.660
Email and I'm

17:06.660 --> 17:07.000
Going to go ahead

17:07.000 --> 17:07.500
And read it

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And I don't

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Really know

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There's a whole

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Much a whole

17:10.560 --> 17:11.280
Lot we can add

17:11.280 --> 17:11.940
To it but

17:11.940 --> 17:13.240
First of all

17:13.240 --> 17:14.340
This was sent

17:14.340 --> 17:14.960
With a real name

17:14.960 --> 17:15.340
And of course

17:15.340 --> 17:15.860
We don't read

17:15.860 --> 17:16.500
That on the air

17:16.500 --> 17:17.280
So a real name

17:17.280 --> 17:17.680
Withheld

17:17.680 --> 17:19.360
And he says

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Well the subject

17:20.560 --> 17:20.940
Line was

17:20.940 --> 17:21.940
RFID tags

17:21.940 --> 17:22.580
The mark of the

17:22.580 --> 17:22.860
Beast

17:22.860 --> 17:24.280
Which is kind of

17:24.280 --> 17:24.500
Funny

17:24.500 --> 17:26.680
And he says

17:26.680 --> 17:27.000
Quote

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As I frequently

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Do I like to

17:29.160 --> 17:29.960
Frequent Old Navy

17:29.960 --> 17:30.720
And goodies for

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My styling needs

17:31.860 --> 17:32.420
A.K.A.

17:32.500 --> 17:32.900
Soon to be

17:32.900 --> 17:33.860
Dirty blue jeans

17:33.860 --> 17:34.540
And old worn

17:34.540 --> 17:35.100
Out shirts

17:35.100 --> 17:37.160
This would not

17:37.160 --> 17:37.800
Be a problem

17:37.800 --> 17:38.640
Save for the fact

17:38.640 --> 17:39.280
That I have to

17:39.280 --> 17:40.500
Notify the cashier

17:40.500 --> 17:41.260
Of where I live

17:41.260 --> 17:42.040
To finalize the

17:42.040 --> 17:42.500
Purchase

17:42.500 --> 17:44.700
Which as an aside

17:44.700 --> 17:45.380
That was one thing

17:45.380 --> 17:45.840
That we've always

17:45.840 --> 17:46.340
Hated about

17:46.340 --> 17:47.200
Radio Shack

17:47.200 --> 17:48.640
If you remember

17:48.640 --> 17:49.420
Back in the day

17:49.420 --> 17:50.200
We always hated

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Having

17:50.440 --> 17:51.080
They always would

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Have to give them

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Give them your

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Name and address

17:53.120 --> 17:53.780
And stuff like that

17:53.780 --> 17:54.300
To check out

17:54.300 --> 17:54.740
And they finally

17:54.740 --> 17:55.640
Got rid of that

17:55.640 --> 17:57.080
But apparently

17:57.080 --> 17:57.980
Other places

17:57.980 --> 17:58.580
Are doing it

17:58.580 --> 17:58.860
So

17:58.860 --> 18:00.500
Anyway

18:00.500 --> 18:01.180
Back to the email

18:01.180 --> 18:02.000
It is bad enough

18:02.000 --> 18:02.840
That I have to do this

18:02.840 --> 18:03.440
Just for something

18:03.440 --> 18:04.560
Like a pair of pants

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But as of 2005

18:06.380 --> 18:07.380
Your favorite place

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In mine

18:07.740 --> 18:08.360
Wally World

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A.K.A.

18:08.840 --> 18:09.280
Walmart

18:09.280 --> 18:10.720
Will have most

18:10.720 --> 18:11.400
Of its suppliers

18:11.400 --> 18:13.400
Incorporate RFID tags

18:13.400 --> 18:14.440
In their merchandise

18:14.440 --> 18:15.880
It is bad enough

18:15.880 --> 18:16.880
I need a street address

18:16.880 --> 18:17.620
To buy clothing

18:17.620 --> 18:18.660
Which is undoubtedly

18:18.660 --> 18:19.780
Being sold for green

18:19.780 --> 18:20.740
To some illuminate

18:20.740 --> 18:21.920
Like database somewhere

18:21.920 --> 18:23.220
But in less than a year

18:23.220 --> 18:24.160
I will be tracked

18:24.160 --> 18:25.100
No matter what

18:25.100 --> 18:26.300
The corporations say

18:26.300 --> 18:27.180
That you will be able

18:27.180 --> 18:28.660
To opt out of RFID

18:28.660 --> 18:29.060
But

18:29.060 --> 18:30.420
Like the spam

18:30.420 --> 18:31.020
And junk mail

18:31.020 --> 18:31.540
I received

18:31.540 --> 18:32.400
Through cyberspace

18:32.400 --> 18:32.960
In the real world

18:32.960 --> 18:33.780
It is very iffy

18:33.780 --> 18:34.280
At best

18:34.280 --> 18:35.540
Which is true

18:35.540 --> 18:36.180
You can opt out

18:36.180 --> 18:36.680
Of those things

18:36.680 --> 18:37.540
But it never works

18:37.540 --> 18:38.940
So why should we feel

18:38.940 --> 18:39.840
That the RFID

18:39.840 --> 18:40.860
Opting out of that

18:40.860 --> 18:41.760
Is going to be any different

18:41.760 --> 18:42.660
And

18:42.660 --> 18:43.920
Back on RFA

18:43.920 --> 18:45.660
This is nothing new

18:45.660 --> 18:46.120
RFA

18:46.120 --> 18:46.840
I used to rant

18:46.840 --> 18:47.580
And talk about this

18:47.580 --> 18:48.160
A lot

18:48.160 --> 18:49.280
You can probably

18:49.280 --> 18:49.920
Go back to

18:49.920 --> 18:51.020
Oldschoolfreak.com

18:51.020 --> 18:51.560
And look through

18:51.560 --> 18:52.220
Some of the archives

18:52.220 --> 18:53.040
And the show notes

18:53.040 --> 18:54.820
And get some more

18:54.820 --> 18:55.580
Information on us

18:55.580 --> 18:56.300
Talking about that

18:56.300 --> 18:57.100
Walmart has been

18:57.100 --> 18:57.600
On again

18:57.600 --> 18:58.120
Off again

18:58.120 --> 18:58.560
On again

18:58.560 --> 18:58.980
Off again

18:58.980 --> 18:59.720
With the RFID

18:59.720 --> 19:01.500
And they're tiptoeing

19:01.500 --> 19:01.920
Around it

19:01.920 --> 19:02.640
Because they're scared

19:02.640 --> 19:03.760
To offend their consumers

19:03.760 --> 19:05.140
And violating privacy

19:05.140 --> 19:06.460
And last I had heard

19:06.460 --> 19:08.200
They were only going

19:08.200 --> 19:09.220
To implement RFID

19:09.220 --> 19:10.460
In their shipping

19:10.460 --> 19:11.700
And

19:11.700 --> 19:12.540
You know

19:12.540 --> 19:13.120
Managing

19:13.120 --> 19:14.720
Pallets of merchandise

19:14.720 --> 19:15.680
And how much gets

19:15.680 --> 19:16.580
Through the warehouse

19:16.580 --> 19:17.480
And making sure

19:17.480 --> 19:18.300
You know

19:18.300 --> 19:19.260
To count stuff

19:19.260 --> 19:19.940
Coming in and out

19:19.940 --> 19:20.920
Of the warehouse properly

19:20.920 --> 19:21.560
I didn't know

19:21.560 --> 19:22.620
Or haven't heard anything

19:22.620 --> 19:23.540
Since that they're going

19:23.540 --> 19:24.260
Back to

19:24.260 --> 19:25.740
Retail

19:25.740 --> 19:26.540
And to customers

19:26.540 --> 19:27.080
But

19:27.080 --> 19:28.720
It is going to happen

19:28.720 --> 19:29.640
At some point

19:29.640 --> 19:30.340
It's inevitably

19:30.340 --> 19:30.920
Going to happen

19:30.920 --> 19:31.420
I suspect

19:31.420 --> 19:31.780
It's just

19:31.780 --> 19:32.220
How long

19:32.220 --> 19:32.900
Is it going to take

19:32.900 --> 19:35.000
Let's see

19:35.000 --> 19:36.020
Where was I

19:36.020 --> 19:36.660
Let's see

19:36.660 --> 19:37.300
Very iffy at best

19:37.300 --> 19:38.080
Okay he says

19:38.080 --> 19:38.960
I do not wish

19:38.960 --> 19:39.720
To be tracked

19:39.720 --> 19:41.460
For just buying

19:41.460 --> 19:41.900
A coke

19:41.900 --> 19:42.320
Or even

19:42.320 --> 19:42.840
The cheap

19:42.840 --> 19:43.620
Sam's Choice

19:43.620 --> 19:44.160
Soda

19:44.160 --> 19:45.860
Which by the way

19:45.860 --> 19:46.600
That is crap

19:46.600 --> 19:46.940
Have you ever

19:46.940 --> 19:47.440
Had that stuff

19:47.440 --> 19:48.220
Yeah

19:48.220 --> 19:49.480
Oh my god

19:49.480 --> 19:50.480
That is just

19:50.480 --> 19:51.220
Murder

19:51.220 --> 19:53.080
Oh I can't

19:53.080 --> 19:53.760
Stand that

19:53.760 --> 19:54.140
Ugh

19:54.140 --> 19:54.840
Gross

19:54.840 --> 19:55.820
Even at half price

19:55.820 --> 19:56.720
It's still a rip off

19:56.720 --> 19:57.760
You can get them

19:57.760 --> 19:58.340
Out in the machines

19:58.340 --> 19:58.920
For a quarter

19:58.920 --> 20:00.620
What does that tell you

20:00.620 --> 20:01.100
Yeah right

20:01.100 --> 20:01.600
And you can get

20:01.600 --> 20:01.900
You know

20:01.900 --> 20:03.480
The name brand stuff

20:03.480 --> 20:04.180
For 50 cents

20:04.180 --> 20:04.880
It's half price

20:04.880 --> 20:05.700
And it still feels

20:05.700 --> 20:06.360
Like a rip off

20:06.360 --> 20:08.360
Two cans of crap

20:08.360 --> 20:09.240
Is still not equivalent

20:09.240 --> 20:09.980
To one can

20:09.980 --> 20:11.200
Of something good

20:11.200 --> 20:12.540
Of course

20:12.540 --> 20:13.260
Some of that's bad too

20:13.260 --> 20:13.980
But I digress

20:13.980 --> 20:15.240
He goes on

20:15.240 --> 20:15.860
When I go into

20:15.860 --> 20:16.240
Walmart

20:16.240 --> 20:17.100
I want to

20:17.100 --> 20:18.340
Buy some stuff

20:18.340 --> 20:19.380
Not give over

20:19.380 --> 20:20.420
Everything about me

20:20.420 --> 20:21.560
Such as my social security

20:21.560 --> 20:22.640
Number for Radio Shack

20:22.640 --> 20:23.240
Oh I just mentioned

20:23.240 --> 20:23.660
That earlier

20:23.660 --> 20:23.940
Whoops

20:23.940 --> 20:26.180
Is this their way

20:26.180 --> 20:27.320
Where am I at

20:27.320 --> 20:28.780
Is this the way

20:28.780 --> 20:29.500
Life should be

20:29.500 --> 20:30.300
It is bad enough

20:30.300 --> 20:30.880
That we are marked

20:30.880 --> 20:32.000
Cattle at our jobs

20:32.000 --> 20:33.060
Should that be extended

20:33.060 --> 20:33.680
To my life

20:33.680 --> 20:34.700
Outside my job

20:34.700 --> 20:35.220
Should I have to

20:35.220 --> 20:36.120
Give out blood sample

20:36.120 --> 20:36.840
Just to buy a bag

20:36.840 --> 20:37.240
Of cookies

20:37.240 --> 20:38.160
Or a pack of smokes

20:38.160 --> 20:39.380
I think not

20:39.380 --> 20:42.360
Forget the corpopolitical

20:42.360 --> 20:43.980
And I'm paraphrasing there

20:43.980 --> 20:44.500
Because I'm trying

20:44.500 --> 20:45.080
To cut back on

20:45.080 --> 20:45.720
The mad language

20:45.720 --> 20:48.920
Forget the corpopolitical

20:48.920 --> 20:50.080
That want to track

20:50.080 --> 20:50.680
Our votes

20:50.680 --> 20:51.720
Or eating habits

20:51.720 --> 20:52.660
I like that word

20:52.660 --> 20:53.380
Corpopolitical

20:53.380 --> 20:55.360
I like that word

20:55.360 --> 20:56.020
That's a good word

20:56.020 --> 20:57.400
That want to track

20:57.400 --> 20:57.860
Our votes

20:57.860 --> 20:58.620
Our eating habits

20:58.620 --> 21:00.020
And even if we like

21:00.020 --> 21:01.300
Single or double plied

21:01.300 --> 21:02.120
When wiping our

21:02.120 --> 21:04.120
Ah forget it

21:04.120 --> 21:05.260
When wiping our asses

21:05.260 --> 21:06.000
Forget the language

21:06.000 --> 21:06.440
I'm going to go

21:06.440 --> 21:06.820
With the language

21:06.820 --> 21:08.460
Just fuck it

21:08.460 --> 21:09.120
Go with it

21:09.120 --> 21:09.760
Yeah I mean

21:09.760 --> 21:11.500
I'm not doing justice

21:11.500 --> 21:12.080
Editing his

21:12.080 --> 21:12.600
I'm going to read

21:12.600 --> 21:13.160
What he's got

21:13.160 --> 21:13.520
Okay

21:13.520 --> 21:14.720
And even if we like

21:14.720 --> 21:15.560
Single or double fly

21:15.560 --> 21:16.780
When wiping our asses

21:16.780 --> 21:17.940
With everything so geared

21:17.940 --> 21:18.620
To finding out

21:18.620 --> 21:19.180
What I like

21:19.180 --> 21:20.920
With everything so geared

21:20.920 --> 21:21.600
To finding out

21:21.600 --> 21:22.220
What I like

21:22.220 --> 21:23.640
Just to find out

21:23.640 --> 21:24.540
Which junk

21:24.540 --> 21:25.620
To send in the mail

21:25.620 --> 21:27.020
Why don't the corporate world

21:27.020 --> 21:28.300
Ever do everyone a favor

21:28.300 --> 21:29.240
And just tattoo us

21:29.240 --> 21:29.840
With a barcode

21:29.840 --> 21:30.440
From birth

21:30.440 --> 21:31.920
Which has been done

21:31.920 --> 21:32.680
In several movies

21:32.680 --> 21:34.060
Do we need to really

21:34.060 --> 21:34.980
Be tracked and branded

21:34.980 --> 21:35.500
Like cattle

21:35.500 --> 21:36.160
Just to make some

21:36.160 --> 21:36.820
Company somewhere

21:36.820 --> 21:37.740
That only purpose

21:37.740 --> 21:38.620
Is to catalog my

21:38.620 --> 21:39.180
Buying habits

21:39.180 --> 21:39.560
And sell them

21:39.560 --> 21:40.360
To the highest bidder

21:40.360 --> 21:41.220
What if I buy

21:41.220 --> 21:42.280
Maxi pads or something

21:42.280 --> 21:42.940
What then

21:42.940 --> 21:45.220
Well you'll get

21:45.220 --> 21:46.000
Coupons in the mail

21:46.000 --> 21:46.780
For maxi pads

21:46.780 --> 21:47.880
I mean that's an easy answer

21:47.880 --> 21:49.700
I mean come on

21:49.700 --> 21:50.400
That's easy enough

21:50.400 --> 21:52.120
You know

21:52.120 --> 21:53.580
And I read this

21:53.580 --> 21:54.180
I've gotten some

21:54.180 --> 21:55.120
Other emails like this

21:55.120 --> 21:55.960
But I wanted to read

21:55.960 --> 21:56.620
This on the email

21:56.620 --> 21:57.600
Because I haven't

21:57.600 --> 21:58.080
Mentioned it

21:58.080 --> 21:58.760
On the show

21:58.760 --> 21:59.260
Because I haven't

21:59.260 --> 22:00.060
Mentioned RFID

22:00.060 --> 22:00.560
In a while

22:00.560 --> 22:02.160
It hasn't gone away

22:02.160 --> 22:03.300
It's not going away

22:03.300 --> 22:04.620
I haven't had any

22:04.620 --> 22:05.440
Specific stories

22:05.440 --> 22:06.000
To bring up

22:06.000 --> 22:06.520
That have really

22:06.520 --> 22:06.960
Irked me

22:06.960 --> 22:07.600
Because it's just

22:07.600 --> 22:08.380
More of the same

22:08.380 --> 22:08.920
So it's just

22:08.920 --> 22:09.480
A wait and see

22:09.480 --> 22:10.320
Pattern right now

22:10.320 --> 22:11.220
See where it goes

22:11.220 --> 22:12.960
But I still don't

22:12.960 --> 22:14.480
Like the idea

22:14.480 --> 22:15.260
Of RFID

22:15.260 --> 22:16.120
Or the potential

22:16.120 --> 22:16.820
Abuse of it

22:16.820 --> 22:17.420
This is something

22:17.420 --> 22:18.020
That definitely

22:18.020 --> 22:18.820
Has to be

22:18.820 --> 22:20.680
Watched carefully

22:20.680 --> 22:22.180
By consumer

22:22.180 --> 22:23.000
Advocate groups

22:23.000 --> 22:23.600
And make sure

22:23.600 --> 22:24.280
That you know

22:24.280 --> 22:25.800
It isn't used

22:25.800 --> 22:27.240
In ways like

22:27.240 --> 22:27.840
We've talked about

22:27.840 --> 22:28.120
And again

22:28.120 --> 22:28.480
I'm not going

22:28.480 --> 22:29.000
To rehash it

22:29.000 --> 22:29.460
You can go back

22:29.460 --> 22:29.980
And listen to

22:29.980 --> 22:31.540
Previous episodes

22:31.540 --> 22:32.480
Of Binary Revolution

22:32.480 --> 22:32.860
Radio

22:32.860 --> 22:34.220
Or Old School Freak

22:34.220 --> 22:35.120
And listen to

22:35.120 --> 22:36.400
Radio Freak America

22:36.400 --> 22:38.000
Where we have

22:38.000 --> 22:38.860
Beaten this to death

22:38.860 --> 22:39.860
But there are

22:39.860 --> 22:40.660
Genual concerns

22:40.660 --> 22:41.180
Over it

22:41.180 --> 22:42.000
The bottom line

22:42.000 --> 22:43.000
Is you know

22:43.000 --> 22:43.600
All you can do

22:43.600 --> 22:44.540
Is we come on

22:44.540 --> 22:45.000
The show

22:45.000 --> 22:45.880
And we go on

22:45.880 --> 22:46.280
Our sites

22:46.280 --> 22:46.680
And we write

22:46.680 --> 22:47.120
Articles

22:47.120 --> 22:48.540
About the dangers

22:48.540 --> 22:48.900
Of it

22:48.900 --> 22:49.960
And people

22:49.960 --> 22:50.380
Will either

22:50.380 --> 22:51.060
Listen and get

22:51.060 --> 22:51.600
The word out

22:51.600 --> 22:51.880
And it will

22:51.880 --> 22:52.920
Perpetuate and be

22:52.920 --> 22:53.240
Spread

22:53.240 --> 22:54.500
And we just

22:54.500 --> 22:55.320
Keep an eye on it

22:55.320 --> 22:56.500
And if it gets

22:56.500 --> 22:56.880
Stopped

22:56.880 --> 22:57.180
Great

22:57.180 --> 22:57.920
If it gets

22:57.920 --> 22:58.240
You know

22:58.240 --> 22:58.780
If you stop it

22:58.780 --> 22:59.040
Early

22:59.040 --> 23:00.220
That's just

23:00.220 --> 23:00.720
Honky dory

23:00.720 --> 23:02.000
But it's going

23:02.000 --> 23:02.540
To come back

23:02.540 --> 23:02.960
It's going to

23:02.960 --> 23:03.400
Be here

23:03.400 --> 23:03.940
It's not going

23:03.940 --> 23:04.660
Away like I said

23:04.660 --> 23:06.540
And instead

23:06.540 --> 23:07.680
Of being proactive

23:07.680 --> 23:08.340
And this is the

23:08.340 --> 23:09.080
Word I use on the

23:09.080 --> 23:09.760
Show all the time

23:09.760 --> 23:10.340
This is my pet

23:10.340 --> 23:10.760
Peeve

23:10.760 --> 23:12.040
So many things

23:12.040 --> 23:12.540
If people were

23:12.540 --> 23:13.820
Proactive about them

23:13.820 --> 23:15.520
And nipped them

23:15.520 --> 23:15.920
In the bud

23:15.920 --> 23:16.260
Early

23:16.260 --> 23:16.920
And go out

23:16.920 --> 23:17.320
And stop

23:17.320 --> 23:17.680
Something

23:17.680 --> 23:18.480
Before it

23:18.480 --> 23:18.980
Happens

23:18.980 --> 23:20.600
Don't let

23:20.600 --> 23:21.500
Don't react

23:21.500 --> 23:22.220
Don't be

23:22.220 --> 23:22.760
Reactive

23:22.760 --> 23:24.340
People in

23:24.340 --> 23:24.840
General are

23:24.840 --> 23:26.060
Very apathetic

23:26.060 --> 23:26.780
And they want

23:26.780 --> 23:27.060
To wait

23:27.060 --> 23:27.680
Until something's

23:27.680 --> 23:27.980
Happened

23:27.980 --> 23:28.500
And then act

23:28.500 --> 23:28.980
Indignant

23:28.980 --> 23:30.060
How dare

23:30.060 --> 23:30.540
They take

23:30.540 --> 23:31.080
My rights

23:31.080 --> 23:31.740
Away by

23:31.740 --> 23:32.280
Watching

23:32.280 --> 23:32.620
Watching everything

23:32.620 --> 23:32.900
I do

23:32.900 --> 23:32.920
I do

23:32.920 --> 23:32.940
I do

23:32.940 --> 23:33.620
With RFID

23:33.620 --> 23:34.440
Well guess

23:34.440 --> 23:34.660
What

23:34.660 --> 23:35.120
If you were

23:35.120 --> 23:35.980
More educated

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And more

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Knowledgeable

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Consumer

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And citizen

23:40.460 --> 23:40.960
Frankly

23:40.960 --> 23:41.400
This is not

23:41.400 --> 23:42.100
Not necessarily

23:42.100 --> 23:43.040
Only consumerism

23:43.040 --> 23:43.620
Citizen

23:43.620 --> 23:44.620
You would know

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When not only

23:45.160 --> 23:45.540
This right

23:45.540 --> 23:46.020
But any of

23:46.020 --> 23:46.360
Your rights

23:46.360 --> 23:46.660
Are being

23:46.660 --> 23:47.060
Threatened

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Or taken

23:47.400 --> 23:47.880
Away from

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And instead

23:48.320 --> 23:49.480
Of coming

23:49.480 --> 23:50.320
After the fact

23:50.320 --> 23:50.580
And they're

23:50.580 --> 23:50.940
Gone

23:50.940 --> 23:51.320
And taken

23:51.320 --> 23:51.780
Away from

23:51.780 --> 23:51.920
You

23:51.920 --> 23:52.280
And then you

23:52.280 --> 23:52.800
Want to whine

23:52.800 --> 23:53.220
And bitch

23:53.220 --> 23:53.600
And moan

23:53.600 --> 23:54.040
About it

23:54.040 --> 23:54.600
Why don't

23:54.600 --> 23:55.140
You keep

23:55.140 --> 23:55.760
Ahead of

23:55.760 --> 23:56.220
What's going

23:56.220 --> 23:56.680
On in the

23:56.680 --> 23:56.840
World

23:56.840 --> 23:57.280
And open

23:57.280 --> 23:57.660
Your eyes

23:57.660 --> 23:57.980
And see

23:57.980 --> 23:58.260
What they're

23:58.260 --> 23:58.600
Trying to

23:58.600 --> 23:58.800
Do to

23:58.800 --> 23:58.940
You

23:58.940 --> 23:59.680
And voice

23:59.680 --> 24:00.140
Your opinions

24:00.140 --> 24:00.940
Before they

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Take your

24:01.380 --> 24:02.000
Rights away

24:02.000 --> 24:03.840
Ugh

24:03.840 --> 24:05.240
Alright now

24:05.240 --> 24:06.000
I'm worked

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Up

24:06.400 --> 24:07.640
Ugh

24:07.640 --> 24:08.760
You're in a

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Better mood

24:09.160 --> 24:10.620
Yeah I guess

24:10.620 --> 24:11.220
I am but

24:11.220 --> 24:12.460
I'm in an

24:12.460 --> 24:13.000
Angry mood

24:13.000 --> 24:13.320
Now

24:13.320 --> 24:15.160
Alright well

24:15.160 --> 24:15.700
Anyway

24:15.700 --> 24:16.680
Now see now

24:16.680 --> 24:16.960
You had to

24:16.960 --> 24:17.200
Bring me

24:17.200 --> 24:17.500
Now you brought

24:17.500 --> 24:18.120
Me back down

24:18.120 --> 24:19.820
Man I'm so

24:19.820 --> 24:20.140
Bummed

24:20.140 --> 24:20.500
I hate

24:20.500 --> 24:21.460
I hate

24:21.460 --> 24:21.780
Hacking

24:21.780 --> 24:22.320
And failing

24:22.320 --> 24:23.360
Anyway that's

24:23.360 --> 24:23.700
It for the

24:23.700 --> 24:24.280
Mailbag

24:24.280 --> 24:26.380
Unless you

24:26.380 --> 24:26.840
Wanted to add

24:26.840 --> 24:27.300
Something about

24:27.300 --> 24:27.760
RFID

24:27.760 --> 24:29.140
Um

24:29.140 --> 24:30.960
Not really

24:30.960 --> 24:32.380
Uh

24:32.380 --> 24:33.480
What's

24:33.480 --> 24:34.060
What I would

24:34.060 --> 24:34.620
Add has already

24:34.620 --> 24:35.240
Been said many

24:35.240 --> 24:35.980
Times so

24:35.980 --> 24:36.600
Yeah

24:36.600 --> 24:38.280
Well let's go

24:38.280 --> 24:38.680
Into the

24:38.680 --> 24:39.040
If they don't

24:39.040 --> 24:39.580
Try to implant

24:39.580 --> 24:40.620
An RFID tag

24:40.620 --> 24:41.240
In my ass

24:41.240 --> 24:41.700
I'll be

24:41.700 --> 24:42.200
Alright

24:42.200 --> 24:42.920
Yeah but

24:42.920 --> 24:43.420
What if you

24:43.420 --> 24:44.240
Get 25 cents

24:44.240 --> 24:44.860
Off fish sticks

24:44.860 --> 24:45.920
For that though

24:45.920 --> 24:47.520
Well in that

24:47.520 --> 24:47.980
Case they can

24:47.980 --> 24:48.720
Plug my ass

24:48.720 --> 24:50.400
For RFID tags

24:50.400 --> 24:51.360
I don't want to

24:51.360 --> 24:51.780
See that in

24:51.780 --> 24:52.540
Signatures anywhere

24:52.540 --> 24:52.940
Thanks guys

24:52.940 --> 24:53.740
Yeah maybe

24:53.740 --> 24:54.320
Not only

24:54.320 --> 24:54.960
Not only do

24:54.960 --> 24:55.340
They put a

24:55.340 --> 24:56.080
Barcode tattoo

24:56.080 --> 24:56.660
Put it like

24:56.660 --> 24:57.260
On our hand

24:57.260 --> 24:57.600
Or something

24:57.600 --> 24:58.020
Where we can

24:58.020 --> 24:58.500
Scan it

24:58.500 --> 24:58.920
Every time

24:58.920 --> 24:59.200
Make it

24:59.200 --> 24:59.580
Let's make it

24:59.580 --> 25:00.220
Easy for them

25:00.220 --> 25:00.540
You know

25:00.540 --> 25:02.120
Cover my body

25:02.120 --> 25:02.640
With a bunch

25:02.640 --> 25:03.400
Of barcodes

25:03.400 --> 25:03.880
And then when

25:03.880 --> 25:04.440
I go into

25:04.440 --> 25:04.700
The store

25:04.700 --> 25:05.200
I can scan

25:05.200 --> 25:05.720
The appropriate

25:05.720 --> 25:06.540
Coupon code

25:06.540 --> 25:07.260
From my body

25:07.260 --> 25:08.000
Hang on my

25:08.000 --> 25:09.060
Buy load tags

25:09.060 --> 25:09.760
In my foot

25:09.760 --> 25:10.380
Uh my

25:10.380 --> 25:11.060
Wal-Mart tags

25:11.060 --> 25:11.600
In my upper

25:11.600 --> 25:12.140
Arm

25:12.140 --> 25:13.180
Oh and that

25:13.180 --> 25:14.120
Porn shop tag

25:14.120 --> 25:14.900
Hang on guys

25:14.900 --> 25:15.240
Yeah

25:15.240 --> 25:16.320
You don't want

25:16.320 --> 25:16.760
To see this

25:16.760 --> 25:17.400
Close your eyes

25:17.400 --> 25:18.980
All of a sudden

25:18.980 --> 25:19.540
All cashiers

25:19.540 --> 25:20.400
Must be 18 or

25:20.400 --> 25:20.800
Older

25:20.800 --> 25:23.020
And then you know

25:23.020 --> 25:23.420
And then you're

25:23.420 --> 25:23.840
Going to have people

25:23.840 --> 25:24.580
Getting jacked up

25:24.580 --> 25:25.060
In alleys

25:25.060 --> 25:25.720
And getting their

25:25.720 --> 25:27.440
Tags carved out

25:27.440 --> 25:28.060
Of their bodies

25:28.060 --> 25:28.620
And stuff

25:28.620 --> 25:30.160
And talk about

25:30.160 --> 25:31.000
What are those

25:31.000 --> 25:31.700
Commercials which

25:31.700 --> 25:32.260
By the way are

25:32.260 --> 25:32.580
Great

25:32.580 --> 25:33.040
The one where

25:33.040 --> 25:33.560
They got a

25:33.560 --> 25:34.440
The old guy

25:34.440 --> 25:35.180
Sitting in a chair

25:35.180 --> 25:35.720
But he's got a

25:35.720 --> 25:36.480
Girl's voice

25:36.480 --> 25:37.500
The identity theft

25:37.500 --> 25:38.420
Oh yeah

25:38.420 --> 25:39.180
Oh god those

25:39.180 --> 25:39.460
Are great commercials

25:39.460 --> 25:40.500
Like American Express

25:40.500 --> 25:41.280
Yeah it's one of

25:41.280 --> 25:41.720
Those cards

25:41.720 --> 25:42.240
Those are great

25:42.240 --> 25:43.020
Commercials

25:43.020 --> 25:43.940
But man you think

25:43.940 --> 25:44.620
Identity theft

25:44.620 --> 25:45.620
Is a problem now

25:45.620 --> 25:47.880
I just removed

25:47.880 --> 25:48.320
His arm

25:48.320 --> 25:49.300
Yeah right

25:49.300 --> 25:49.900
Just walk in

25:49.900 --> 25:50.720
Scan someone else's

25:50.720 --> 25:50.980
Arm

25:50.980 --> 25:53.200
Oh man

25:53.200 --> 25:54.080
Or Forge

25:54.080 --> 25:54.380
And you know

25:54.380 --> 25:54.960
I wonder how

25:54.960 --> 25:55.620
You know

25:55.620 --> 25:56.220
Technology

25:56.220 --> 25:56.660
I wonder what

25:56.660 --> 25:57.160
Kind of security

25:57.160 --> 25:57.500
They're going to

25:57.500 --> 25:57.980
Put on it

25:57.980 --> 25:58.660
And how easy

25:58.660 --> 25:59.140
It would be to

25:59.140 --> 25:59.720
Duplicate

25:59.720 --> 26:00.880
Anyway

26:00.880 --> 26:01.660
I'm not going

26:01.660 --> 26:02.180
Into the future

26:02.180 --> 26:02.840
This isn't

26:02.840 --> 26:03.880
The Jetsons or

26:03.880 --> 26:04.100
Anything

26:04.100 --> 26:05.380
We'll see what

26:05.380 --> 26:05.780
Happens

26:05.780 --> 26:07.440
Show and tell

26:07.440 --> 26:10.100
You were working

26:10.100 --> 26:10.720
On the radio

26:10.720 --> 26:11.040
Server

26:11.040 --> 26:11.300
I don't know

26:11.300 --> 26:11.980
How much detail

26:11.980 --> 26:12.380
You want to

26:12.380 --> 26:13.320
Go into that

26:13.320 --> 26:15.600
Tell you what

26:15.600 --> 26:15.840
Let me

26:15.840 --> 26:17.160
I'll start off

26:17.160 --> 26:17.680
And mention

26:17.680 --> 26:18.200
That I was on

26:18.200 --> 26:18.860
Default radio

26:18.860 --> 26:19.660
This past week

26:19.660 --> 26:20.360
With Decoder

26:20.360 --> 26:21.020
In theory

26:21.020 --> 26:22.060
Those guys over there

26:22.060 --> 26:23.800
A marathon episode

26:23.800 --> 26:24.380
I think we were

26:24.380 --> 26:25.220
Like three hours

26:25.220 --> 26:25.980
Maybe even more

26:25.980 --> 26:26.440
Than that

26:26.440 --> 26:26.860
But it was

26:26.860 --> 26:27.740
Just an absolute

26:27.740 --> 26:28.500
Blast

26:28.500 --> 26:30.140
Decoder in general

26:30.140 --> 26:30.580
Whether we're

26:30.580 --> 26:31.180
Chatting on a

26:31.180 --> 26:31.900
Conference line

26:31.900 --> 26:32.520
Instant message

26:32.520 --> 26:32.840
Or whatever

26:32.840 --> 26:33.540
Just makes me

26:33.540 --> 26:34.700
Laugh so bad

26:34.700 --> 26:36.280
I just absolutely

26:36.280 --> 26:37.340
Sometimes in tears

26:37.340 --> 26:37.860
From laughing

26:37.860 --> 26:38.420
He's such a

26:38.420 --> 26:38.940
Funny person

26:38.940 --> 26:40.300
So that was

26:40.300 --> 26:41.120
Really fun being

26:41.120 --> 26:41.460
On there

26:41.460 --> 26:41.880
And maybe I'll

26:41.880 --> 26:42.400
Do that more

26:42.400 --> 26:43.160
Often if I can

26:43.160 --> 26:43.620
So we had a

26:43.620 --> 26:44.240
Live show

26:44.240 --> 26:45.820
This past Friday

26:45.820 --> 26:46.640
On DDP

26:46.640 --> 26:47.420
Hack radio

26:47.420 --> 26:49.140
Default Friday

26:49.140 --> 26:51.300
And I've been

26:51.300 --> 26:51.740
Reading some

26:51.740 --> 26:52.640
Blacklisted magazine

26:52.640 --> 26:53.320
I've done some

26:53.320 --> 26:54.280
Reviews on past

26:54.280 --> 26:54.920
Shows about

26:54.920 --> 26:55.400
You know

26:55.400 --> 26:56.380
Specific ones

26:56.380 --> 26:56.860
I read like

26:56.860 --> 26:57.500
Three of them

26:57.500 --> 26:57.960
This week

26:57.960 --> 26:59.140
And I'm not

26:59.140 --> 26:59.420
Going to go

26:59.420 --> 26:59.820
Into all the

26:59.820 --> 27:00.200
Details

27:00.200 --> 27:01.200
But you know

27:01.200 --> 27:01.720
They all had

27:01.720 --> 27:02.200
The same thing

27:02.200 --> 27:02.660
In common

27:02.660 --> 27:04.420
Advertisements

27:04.420 --> 27:05.200
All over the

27:05.200 --> 27:05.840
Freaking place

27:05.840 --> 27:06.840
Tons and tons

27:06.840 --> 27:07.340
Of ads

27:07.340 --> 27:07.720
Whether they

27:07.720 --> 27:08.320
Were classified

27:08.320 --> 27:08.900
Ads

27:08.900 --> 27:10.220
Or half page

27:10.220 --> 27:10.480
Ads

27:10.480 --> 27:11.020
Or full page

27:11.020 --> 27:12.240
Ads for these

27:12.240 --> 27:12.700
Companies

27:12.700 --> 27:13.660
Lots of

27:13.660 --> 27:14.380
Classified

27:14.380 --> 27:14.920
Lots of

27:14.920 --> 27:16.060
It was just

27:16.060 --> 27:16.920
Tons and tons

27:16.920 --> 27:17.520
Of ads

27:17.520 --> 27:18.860
A couple articles

27:18.860 --> 27:19.520
And then just

27:19.520 --> 27:20.540
These lists

27:20.540 --> 27:21.960
I don't know

27:21.960 --> 27:22.280
What else to

27:22.280 --> 27:22.540
Call them

27:22.540 --> 27:22.980
But lists

27:22.980 --> 27:23.980
And like

27:23.980 --> 27:24.300
There was a

27:24.300 --> 27:24.920
Continuation

27:24.920 --> 27:26.020
Of abbreviations

27:26.020 --> 27:27.260
Like the first

27:27.260 --> 27:27.720
One I read

27:27.720 --> 27:28.000
On the year

27:28.000 --> 27:28.340
Last week

27:28.340 --> 27:28.680
Was like

27:28.680 --> 27:29.420
Starting with

27:29.420 --> 27:30.700
All abbreviations

27:30.700 --> 27:31.260
Or technical

27:31.260 --> 27:32.600
For technical

27:32.600 --> 27:33.440
Things

27:33.440 --> 27:34.640
Starting with

27:34.640 --> 27:35.200
A through

27:35.200 --> 27:35.560
C

27:35.560 --> 27:37.020
I mean

27:37.020 --> 27:37.920
I don't know

27:37.920 --> 27:38.660
Do people want

27:38.660 --> 27:39.760
Ten pages of

27:39.760 --> 27:41.580
Different abbreviations

27:41.580 --> 27:42.020
And what they

27:42.020 --> 27:42.380
Mean

27:42.380 --> 27:43.800
I don't

27:43.800 --> 27:44.300
I don't

27:44.300 --> 27:44.920
Yeah

27:44.920 --> 27:45.600
I don't quite

27:45.600 --> 27:46.140
I just don't

27:46.140 --> 27:46.620
Get that

27:46.620 --> 27:47.220
And there's

27:47.220 --> 27:48.000
Tons of lists

27:48.000 --> 27:49.140
BBS listings

27:49.140 --> 27:51.220
Which again

27:51.220 --> 27:51.740
Back then

27:51.740 --> 27:52.220
I understand

27:52.220 --> 27:52.580
It's a different

27:52.580 --> 27:52.840
Time

27:52.840 --> 27:53.320
That could

27:53.320 --> 27:53.600
Have been

27:53.600 --> 27:53.960
Useful

27:53.960 --> 27:54.500
But only

27:54.500 --> 27:54.900
To the

27:54.900 --> 27:55.300
People in

27:55.300 --> 27:56.220
That area

27:56.220 --> 27:56.680
And it's

27:56.680 --> 27:56.880
Just

27:56.880 --> 27:58.380
I don't

27:58.380 --> 27:58.620
Know

27:58.620 --> 27:59.120
Anyway

27:59.120 --> 27:59.500
There was

27:59.500 --> 27:59.800
Lists

27:59.800 --> 28:00.400
And that's

28:00.400 --> 28:00.660
Just a

28:00.660 --> 28:01.120
Couple examples

28:01.120 --> 28:01.520
There's all

28:01.520 --> 28:01.880
Kinds of

28:01.880 --> 28:02.160
Lists

28:02.160 --> 28:02.560
Of lists

28:02.560 --> 28:02.980
Of lists

28:02.980 --> 28:03.360
Of lists

28:03.360 --> 28:04.560
And I don't

28:04.560 --> 28:04.640
Know

28:04.640 --> 28:04.860
There was

28:04.860 --> 28:05.140
A couple

28:05.140 --> 28:05.540
Articles

28:05.540 --> 28:05.840
Here and

28:05.840 --> 28:06.160
There that

28:06.160 --> 28:06.800
Were worthwhile

28:06.800 --> 28:07.260
There was

28:07.260 --> 28:07.540
Some

28:07.540 --> 28:07.940
Amiga

28:07.940 --> 28:08.280
Stuff

28:08.280 --> 28:08.740
Which was

28:08.740 --> 28:09.460
Hit and

28:09.460 --> 28:09.640
Miss

28:09.640 --> 28:10.040
Interesting

28:10.040 --> 28:11.380
So I'm

28:11.380 --> 28:11.560
Not going

28:11.560 --> 28:11.820
To go into

28:11.820 --> 28:12.140
Detail

28:12.140 --> 28:12.520
About those

28:12.520 --> 28:12.780
But I've

28:12.780 --> 28:13.080
Been reading

28:13.080 --> 28:13.420
Some of

28:13.420 --> 28:13.600
Those

28:13.600 --> 28:13.880
Lately

28:13.880 --> 28:14.280
And that's

28:14.280 --> 28:14.720
Been about

28:14.720 --> 28:15.220
It for me

28:15.220 --> 28:15.940
Besides my

28:15.940 --> 28:16.780
Hack and

28:16.780 --> 28:17.160
Fail

28:17.160 --> 28:18.920
And I'm

28:18.920 --> 28:19.160
Not going

28:19.160 --> 28:19.480
To talk

28:19.480 --> 28:19.980
About that

28:19.980 --> 28:20.380
So

28:20.380 --> 28:23.180
Oh I was

28:23.180 --> 28:23.820
Right there

28:23.820 --> 28:24.140
Too

28:24.140 --> 28:24.540
It was like

28:24.540 --> 28:25.220
It was like

28:25.220 --> 28:25.780
You got the

28:25.780 --> 28:26.040
Fish

28:26.040 --> 28:26.780
You fought

28:26.780 --> 28:27.120
With it

28:27.120 --> 28:27.500
For a

28:27.500 --> 28:27.800
Fucking

28:27.800 --> 28:28.420
Day or

28:28.420 --> 28:28.680
So

28:28.680 --> 28:29.200
You got

28:29.200 --> 28:29.560
It reeled

28:29.560 --> 28:29.900
Into the

28:29.900 --> 28:30.120
Boat

28:30.120 --> 28:30.580
You put

28:30.580 --> 28:30.980
The net

28:30.980 --> 28:31.360
Out there

28:31.360 --> 28:31.860
And bam

28:31.860 --> 28:32.360
He jumps

28:32.360 --> 28:32.720
Off the

28:32.720 --> 28:32.900
Hook

28:32.900 --> 28:33.340
And swims

28:33.340 --> 28:33.680
Away

28:33.680 --> 28:34.320
And it's

28:34.320 --> 28:35.240
What a

28:35.240 --> 28:35.580
Horrible

28:35.580 --> 28:36.260
Feeling

28:36.260 --> 28:38.420
Maybe people

28:38.420 --> 28:38.760
Will know

28:38.760 --> 28:39.100
One day

28:39.100 --> 28:39.440
What we

28:39.440 --> 28:39.860
Are talking

28:39.860 --> 28:40.100
About

28:40.100 --> 28:40.500
Yeah

28:40.500 --> 28:41.040
Maybe

28:41.040 --> 28:42.620
I haven't

28:42.620 --> 28:43.060
Given up

28:43.060 --> 28:44.100
I may

28:44.100 --> 28:44.480
Still be

28:44.480 --> 28:44.600
Able

28:44.600 --> 28:44.900
To catch

28:44.900 --> 28:45.400
This fish

28:45.400 --> 28:46.080
I haven't

28:46.080 --> 28:46.480
Given up

28:46.480 --> 28:47.460
But it's

28:47.460 --> 28:48.040
Looking grim

28:48.040 --> 28:48.520
It's a

28:48.520 --> 28:48.940
Big ocean

28:48.940 --> 28:49.360
Out there

28:49.360 --> 28:50.640
Anyway

28:50.640 --> 28:51.860
How about

28:51.860 --> 28:52.340
You why don't

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You talk

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About something

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That

28:53.380 --> 28:54.120
Something that

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Didn't fail

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I don't know

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Maybe having

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My article

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Submitted

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I mean

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You had

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To go

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There

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Oh man

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Anyway

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Yeah I guess

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Just back to the

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Hack radio

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That's pretty much

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All I've been

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Doing that I

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Can think of

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Started a new

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Job

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Woo

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Got to turn

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It like

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A lot of

29:16.860 --> 29:17.040
You know

29:17.040 --> 29:17.280
How that

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Feels

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We're going

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To have to

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Go into

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Some detail

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About that

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Soon

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When you're

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More comfortable

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With it

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Yeah

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And talk

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About what

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Kind of

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Cool stuff

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You're doing

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Yeah that's

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Definitely

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We'll let you

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Get settled

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In before

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We touch

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On that

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But the

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Hack radio

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Stuff is

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Looking fantastic

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We went

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Into

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We talked

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For several

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Hours

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About that

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Over the

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Weekend

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Going into

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Some detail

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Working out

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Some logistics

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And I think

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That's going

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To be

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Very

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Very

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Cool

29:39.940 --> 29:41.940
And it's

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It's forcing

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The two of

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Us to

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Enhance our

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Strengths in

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The user

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Interface

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Department

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The code

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We don't have

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A problem

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With

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The logistics

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The designing

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The database

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The getting

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It to work

29:53.440 --> 29:54.160
The functionality

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But

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Boy

29:56.080 --> 29:56.720
Getting it

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User friendly

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Exactly

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Well like I

29:59.380 --> 29:59.660
Said

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You know

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If you could

30:00.360 --> 30:00.860
Just get rid

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Of the users

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The programmers

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Life would be

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You know

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Heaven

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Non-existent

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Two at the

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Same time

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But

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Well yeah

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But

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Yeah

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Whatever

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Exactly

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Yeah

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Hey whatever

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Happened

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Maybe I

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Shouldn't

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Damn I

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Should have

30:14.780 --> 30:15.080
Warned you

30:15.080 --> 30:15.560
This question

30:15.560 --> 30:15.980
Was coming

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So

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If you don't

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Want to talk

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About it

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We won't

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But whatever

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Happened to

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The DVD

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Project

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I'm still

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Slowly

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Working on it

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Very slowly

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It's just

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Time

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Really

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I know

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That's why

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So I mean

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We finally

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We finally

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Got the

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Machines

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Loaded

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And everything

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The way

30:36.140 --> 30:36.520
We want

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But I

30:36.900 --> 30:37.240
Just haven't

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Had time

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To go back

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And actually

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Do it

30:39.380 --> 30:40.860
And test

30:40.860 --> 30:42.560
But hopefully

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Soon you guys

30:43.340 --> 30:43.820
Will get an update

30:43.820 --> 30:44.260
On that

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I miss them

30:45.420 --> 30:46.180
I miss them

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Every day

30:46.720 --> 30:48.700
Yeah well

30:48.700 --> 30:49.540
With changing

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Jobs that's

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Just one more

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Thing you know

30:51.680 --> 30:51.940
That gets

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Shuffled around

30:52.680 --> 30:53.300
With you know

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There's not

30:53.580 --> 30:53.980
Enough hours

30:53.980 --> 30:54.420
In the day

30:54.420 --> 30:54.800
There really

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Isn't

30:55.400 --> 30:55.960
Well actually

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Next week

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I get to

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Work two

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Full time

30:58.660 --> 30:59.100
Jobs

30:59.100 --> 30:59.940
At the school

30:59.940 --> 31:00.540
So I'm

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Going to be

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Doing something

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For 101 hours

31:04.020 --> 31:04.900
During that week

31:04.900 --> 31:07.420
Sleep will not

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Be one of them

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I can say

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No

31:09.420 --> 31:10.900
Unfortunately

31:10.900 --> 31:12.420
Well I tell you

31:12.420 --> 31:12.840
What we'll give

31:12.840 --> 31:13.340
You a break

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Next week

31:13.820 --> 31:14.360
We'll get

31:14.360 --> 31:14.860
Someone else

31:14.860 --> 31:15.340
On the show

31:15.340 --> 31:15.760
And then you

31:15.760 --> 31:16.680
Can come back

31:16.680 --> 31:17.200
After that

31:17.200 --> 31:17.620
And tell us

31:17.620 --> 31:18.420
If you survived

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Or not

31:18.740 --> 31:19.140
We'll see if

31:19.140 --> 31:19.420
You're still

31:19.420 --> 31:19.780
Around

31:19.780 --> 31:21.020
See if you

31:21.020 --> 31:21.840
Implode or

31:21.840 --> 31:22.100
Something

31:22.100 --> 31:22.480
Or that

31:22.480 --> 31:22.800
Or you might

31:22.800 --> 31:23.660
Just go into

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Hibernation

31:24.200 --> 31:24.660
You might go to

31:24.660 --> 31:25.200
Sleep and wake

31:25.200 --> 31:25.700
Up three days

31:25.700 --> 31:25.920
Later

31:25.920 --> 31:26.320
You ever do

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That

31:26.580 --> 31:27.720
I've done

31:27.720 --> 31:28.120
That before

31:28.120 --> 31:28.340
I've been

31:28.340 --> 31:30.100
So exhausted

31:30.100 --> 31:30.680
That I like

31:30.680 --> 31:31.460
Go to sleep

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On a Friday

31:31.940 --> 31:32.460
And I'll wake

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Up and it's

31:32.840 --> 31:33.300
Like Monday

31:33.300 --> 31:33.680
All ready

31:33.680 --> 31:34.060
To do it

31:34.060 --> 31:34.580
Over again

31:34.580 --> 31:35.240
I think it

31:35.240 --> 31:35.860
Involves a couple

31:35.860 --> 31:36.560
Choice drugs

31:36.560 --> 31:39.040
Just kidding

31:39.040 --> 31:39.500
Yeah

31:39.500 --> 31:40.940
Just say no

31:40.940 --> 31:42.080
Yeah exactly

31:42.080 --> 31:42.440
Kid

31:42.440 --> 31:42.840
Yeah

31:42.840 --> 31:44.260
That's our story

31:44.260 --> 31:47.360
Now we have

31:47.360 --> 31:48.040
A topic

31:48.040 --> 31:48.580
That I wanted

31:48.580 --> 31:49.340
To talk about

31:49.340 --> 31:49.860
And I kind of

31:49.860 --> 31:50.740
Forced the issue

31:50.740 --> 31:51.380
To talk about

31:51.380 --> 31:51.760
This today

31:51.760 --> 31:52.220
Even though

31:52.220 --> 31:52.580
Frankly

31:52.580 --> 31:53.180
I'm not very

31:53.180 --> 31:53.860
Well versed

31:53.860 --> 31:54.140
In it

31:54.140 --> 31:55.660
And you and

31:55.660 --> 31:56.180
I have kind of

31:56.180 --> 31:57.060
Been talking about

31:57.060 --> 31:57.560
It looking at

31:57.560 --> 31:57.940
It together

31:57.940 --> 31:59.520
So how do

31:59.520 --> 32:00.260
You feel about

32:00.260 --> 32:01.500
Explaining this

32:01.500 --> 32:01.760
Or do you

32:01.760 --> 32:02.200
Want to read

32:02.200 --> 32:02.820
This first

32:02.820 --> 32:03.560
Or should we

32:03.560 --> 32:06.620
Well I guess

32:06.620 --> 32:07.660
We can go for it

32:07.660 --> 32:09.060
To all the listeners

32:09.060 --> 32:10.600
It's more or less

32:10.600 --> 32:11.640
An opinion of

32:11.640 --> 32:12.540
What in the hell

32:12.540 --> 32:13.880
Is

32:13.880 --> 32:15.420
Yeah

32:15.420 --> 32:15.940
Sure

32:15.940 --> 32:16.340
Whatever

32:16.340 --> 32:16.960
I'll tell you what

32:16.960 --> 32:18.080
I'll read some of it

32:18.080 --> 32:18.860
Parent sentences

32:18.860 --> 32:20.160
Gotta remember how to do that

32:20.160 --> 32:21.580
Yeah well I'll try to

32:21.580 --> 32:22.820
Skim some of the

32:22.820 --> 32:23.920
Important parts here

32:23.920 --> 32:24.920
Throw some of the numbers

32:24.920 --> 32:26.100
And then we'll talk about

32:26.100 --> 32:28.200
The realism of it

32:28.200 --> 32:29.620
The potential of it

32:29.620 --> 32:31.160
And the way we

32:31.160 --> 32:31.720
Understand it

32:31.720 --> 32:32.340
And by all means

32:32.340 --> 32:33.080
Somebody out there

32:33.080 --> 32:34.300
May have more

32:34.300 --> 32:35.100
Knowledge and experience

32:35.100 --> 32:35.540
About it

32:35.540 --> 32:36.740
And they can contact us

32:36.740 --> 32:37.760
I would love to hear more

32:37.760 --> 32:39.160
Some of the details

32:39.160 --> 32:40.160
Because again

32:40.160 --> 32:41.200
This is just an article

32:41.200 --> 32:43.740
An announcement

32:43.740 --> 32:45.220
Really more than anything

32:45.220 --> 32:46.160
It does not go into

32:46.160 --> 32:46.840
Tech details

32:46.840 --> 32:48.060
And we're making

32:48.060 --> 32:49.100
Presumption based on

32:49.100 --> 32:49.780
What we read here

32:49.780 --> 32:50.160
So

32:50.160 --> 32:51.880
And this is actually

32:51.880 --> 32:53.180
From NC State

32:53.180 --> 32:54.180
North Carolina State

32:54.180 --> 32:54.580
Scientists

32:54.580 --> 32:55.240
They've come up

32:55.240 --> 32:55.600
With a new

32:55.600 --> 32:56.500
Internet protocol

32:56.500 --> 32:58.540
Supposedly been

32:58.540 --> 32:59.280
Working on for

32:59.280 --> 32:59.920
About a year

32:59.920 --> 33:00.420
If I remember

33:00.420 --> 33:01.000
Reading correctly

33:01.000 --> 33:02.040
And it's called

33:02.040 --> 33:03.840
BICTCP

33:03.840 --> 33:06.600
Or B-I-C-T-C-P

33:06.600 --> 33:07.400
Which stands for

33:07.400 --> 33:08.660
Binary Increase

33:08.660 --> 33:09.420
Congestion

33:09.420 --> 33:10.900
Transmission Control

33:10.900 --> 33:11.380
Protocol

33:11.380 --> 33:13.420
Now

33:13.420 --> 33:14.820
They've been testing

33:14.820 --> 33:15.700
And doing comparisons

33:15.700 --> 33:16.720
Between that

33:16.720 --> 33:17.660
And some other

33:17.660 --> 33:19.200
Proposed protocols

33:19.200 --> 33:19.840
And this one

33:19.840 --> 33:21.260
Has been far and away

33:21.260 --> 33:22.400
The highest

33:22.400 --> 33:23.260
It has the best

33:23.260 --> 33:23.760
Stability

33:23.760 --> 33:24.420
Fairness

33:24.420 --> 33:25.100
Scalability

33:25.100 --> 33:25.480
Etc.

33:25.540 --> 33:25.780
Etc.

33:25.780 --> 33:26.680
To other protocols

33:26.680 --> 33:29.240
From

33:29.240 --> 33:30.060
Everywhere from

33:30.060 --> 33:30.660
California

33:30.660 --> 33:31.880
To University of London

33:31.880 --> 33:33.180
Lots of testing

33:33.180 --> 33:33.640
They've been doing

33:33.640 --> 33:33.940
All this

33:33.940 --> 33:34.640
And it consistently

33:34.640 --> 33:35.600
Scores well

33:35.600 --> 33:37.960
And let's see

33:37.960 --> 33:38.820
Dr.

33:39.060 --> 33:39.860
I'm going to

33:39.860 --> 33:40.440
I hope I don't

33:40.440 --> 33:41.100
Butcher this guy's

33:41.100 --> 33:41.520
Name because

33:41.520 --> 33:42.100
This is really

33:42.100 --> 33:42.820
A cool thing

33:42.820 --> 33:43.800
If it could be

33:43.800 --> 33:44.420
A cool breakthrough

33:44.420 --> 33:44.920
Dr.

33:45.480 --> 33:46.240
Injong

33:46.240 --> 33:46.820
Ri

33:46.820 --> 33:47.840
Associate

33:47.840 --> 33:48.500
Professor of

33:48.500 --> 33:49.240
Computer Science

33:49.240 --> 33:49.500
Says

33:49.500 --> 33:49.940
BIC

33:49.940 --> 33:50.540
B-I-C

33:50.540 --> 33:50.840
I'm going to

33:50.840 --> 33:51.100
Call it

33:51.100 --> 33:51.380
BIC

33:51.380 --> 33:52.120
For the rest

33:52.120 --> 33:52.500
Of the show

33:52.500 --> 33:53.420
BIC can

33:53.420 --> 33:54.040
Operate

33:54.040 --> 33:54.540
Given the

33:54.540 --> 33:54.980
Appropriate

33:54.980 --> 33:55.260
Medium

33:55.260 --> 33:55.900
At speeds

33:55.900 --> 33:56.460
Approaching

33:56.460 --> 33:57.140
10

33:57.140 --> 33:58.380
Gigabits

33:58.380 --> 33:59.040
Per second

33:59.040 --> 34:00.600
Gigabits

34:00.600 --> 34:01.820
Per second

34:01.820 --> 34:02.560
Which is

34:02.560 --> 34:02.940
Roughly

34:02.940 --> 34:04.620
6,000

34:04.620 --> 34:05.100
Times

34:05.100 --> 34:05.460
That of

34:05.460 --> 34:06.020
DSL

34:06.020 --> 34:08.220
And 150,000

34:08.220 --> 34:08.700
Times that

34:08.700 --> 34:09.100
Of current

34:09.100 --> 34:09.580
Modems

34:09.580 --> 34:09.940
Which

34:09.940 --> 34:11.400
You know

34:11.400 --> 34:11.800
If we want

34:11.800 --> 34:12.100
To compare

34:12.100 --> 34:12.360
I mean

34:12.360 --> 34:12.980
That's just

34:12.980 --> 34:14.180
Staggering

34:14.180 --> 34:14.900
6,000

34:14.900 --> 34:15.240
Times

34:15.240 --> 34:15.740
DSL

34:15.740 --> 34:16.380
Is staggering

34:16.380 --> 34:17.940
So

34:17.940 --> 34:18.540
It says

34:18.540 --> 34:19.180
This may

34:19.180 --> 34:20.100
Eventually

34:20.100 --> 34:20.700
Translate

34:20.700 --> 34:21.180
Into music

34:21.180 --> 34:21.760
Downloads

34:21.760 --> 34:22.200
In the blink

34:22.200 --> 34:22.740
Of an eye

34:22.740 --> 34:23.320
The potential

34:23.320 --> 34:24.340
Value

34:24.340 --> 34:24.940
Of this

34:24.940 --> 34:25.340
Protocol

34:25.340 --> 34:25.860
Is a real

34:25.860 --> 34:26.560
Eye opener

34:26.560 --> 34:28.460
Now

34:28.460 --> 34:30.040
It goes on

34:30.040 --> 34:30.240
Into some

34:30.240 --> 34:30.600
Detail

34:30.600 --> 34:30.900
Of where

34:30.900 --> 34:31.260
This was

34:31.260 --> 34:31.660
Announced

34:31.660 --> 34:31.880
Again

34:31.880 --> 34:32.240
This is

34:32.240 --> 34:32.540
Kind of

34:32.540 --> 34:33.000
An announcement

34:33.000 --> 34:33.360
It doesn't

34:33.360 --> 34:33.580
Give us

34:33.580 --> 34:33.860
A whole

34:33.860 --> 34:34.160
Lot of

34:34.160 --> 34:34.640
Detail

34:34.640 --> 34:35.540
But

34:35.540 --> 34:36.120
It talks

34:36.120 --> 34:36.520
About how

34:36.520 --> 34:36.980
They studied

34:36.980 --> 34:37.340
And how

34:37.340 --> 34:37.720
They came

34:37.720 --> 34:38.100
Up with

34:38.100 --> 34:38.460
This

34:38.460 --> 34:39.580
And

34:39.580 --> 34:40.940
Basically

34:40.940 --> 34:42.140
They were

34:42.140 --> 34:43.960
They analyzed

34:43.960 --> 34:44.720
The current

34:44.720 --> 34:45.640
Protocols

34:45.640 --> 34:46.660
And found

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The problem

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That's inherent

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With regular

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TCP

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The limitations

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And I'm

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Going to quote

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Him here

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It says

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The current

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Form of

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TCP

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Was originally

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Designed

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In the

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1980s

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When internet

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Speeds

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Were much

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Slower

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And bandwidths

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Much

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Smaller

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He said

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Now

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We are

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Trying to

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Apply it

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To networks

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That have

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Several orders

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Of magnitude

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More available

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Bandwidth

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To fill

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BIC

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On the other

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Hand

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Would open

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Gate

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So

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They've been

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Working

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Over it

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For the past

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Year

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And

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Let's see

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Maybe you can

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Explain this

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To the listeners

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In a second

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It says

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That

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The key

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To

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BIC's

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Speed

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Is that

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It uses

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A binary

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Search

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Approach

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A fairly

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Common way

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To search

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Databases

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Which we were

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Talking about

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Before the show

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That allows

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For rapid

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Detection

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Of maximum

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Network

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Capacities

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With minimal

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Loss

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Of information

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And

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And

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They quote

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Him

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As saying

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While

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It may

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Take

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Classical

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TCP

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Two hours

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To reach

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The full

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Capacity

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Use

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Of a

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10

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Gigabit

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Per second

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With a

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100

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Millisecond

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Round trip

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Time

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BIC

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Needs

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Only a

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Few

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Seconds

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Reset

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The greatest

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Challenge

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For the

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New

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Protocol

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He added

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Was to

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Fill the

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Pipe

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Fast enough

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Without

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Starving

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Out

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Other

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Protocols

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Which is

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Important

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And he

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Says

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That is

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A tough

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Balance

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So

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Yeah

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I guess

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Filling the

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Pipe

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Is fine

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But if

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You take

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Out

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FTP

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And everything

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Else

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If you

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Take out

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Every other

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Protocol

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I shouldn't

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Say FTP

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UDP

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Stuff like

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That

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That's

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A problem

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As well

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So

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Again

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We don't

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Have too

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Much

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Detail

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Based

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On your

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Knowledge

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What do

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You presume

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They're talking

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About here

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Well

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Like we

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Were talking

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About earlier

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TCP

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I don't

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Know

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You may

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Know

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TCP IP

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But TCP

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Is transport

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Layer

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Protocol

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I really

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Don't

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Understand

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Or at

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Personally

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I don't

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Understand

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How this

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Would

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In the

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Context

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Protocol

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Any

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Sounds

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To me

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Like

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They're

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Trying

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In

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Modern

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Protocols

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Or

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Routing

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Protocols

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Propagation

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To

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Me

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What

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It

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Sounds

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Like

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Working

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To

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Information

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Have

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It

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Sources

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So

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That

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When

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There's

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A

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Large

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Of

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Coming

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Toward

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I

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Shouldn't

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Say

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Coming

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Towards

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Something

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Like

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A

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Giant

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Wave

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But

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You

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Point

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That

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It

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Can

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Be

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Fast

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Enough

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To

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Discern

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The

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Proper

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Route

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But, I mean, I may be completely off on this.

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This is a very interesting little report.

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Right, and that's really why I wanted to bring up,

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just to at least make mention of it, because this could be huge.

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I mean, this could be the thing that bridges.

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I mean, if you look at that bandwidth that we talked about earlier,

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let's see, what was back, 6,000 times DSL.

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DSL and cable modems are already on the edge of making it possible to listen to streaming.

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Obviously, streaming audio is not such a big deal, but streaming video.

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Actually, I could tell a nice little story about that real quick on streaming video.

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We actually offer it.

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They offer, the company that I'm starting to work with offers TV over DSL.

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Nice.

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As a competition to cable.

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Very interesting.

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Is there really enough bandwidth to have high quality?

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As far as I understand it, they have 10 megabits going to each house

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that has a combination of DSL and TV.

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And the way it works is that each encoder has its own IP address.

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It's an internal IP address, although that would be really awesome if it wasn't.

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But each one has an internal IP address, and the set-top boxes themselves, I guess,

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query the channel information for the – or actually, I think they said they were all

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thin clients.

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It was really interesting.

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Apparently, I think they said they're one of the only two places in the country that

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offer it.

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And it's really cool because they offer things like – a friend of mine was telling me

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who also works there – they offer video on demand.

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Rather than just being like regular pay-per-view, you order a movie, it starts every 30 minutes

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or so.

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You can pause it.

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You can rewind it.

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You can do whatever you want with it, which seems to be really cool.

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Well, that – I really would like to hear some more detail on it, but that doesn't seem

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–

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I'll do some more later.

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It's only one for a day, all right?

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Yeah, that doesn't seem to – I mean, a DSL line's 1.5, and that's coming over copper.

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So I don't know where the extra – you said it was 10.

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There's got to be something more to the equation.

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Right.

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I'll find out.

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Yeah, that could be – it's very interesting if they're trying something like that, but

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I'd be skeptical of how effective that would be, at least with DSL.

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They've actually got, you know, a couple thousand users using it, so –

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So, obviously, it's working –

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It's completely implemented and in place.

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Hmm.

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Well, since you're working there now, you should get free samples, right?

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Actually, I think I'm supposed to, yeah.

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All right.

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So you can fill us in and let us know, be honest, and let's see if it gives you quality

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and – like, what about as far as number of channels and stuff like that?

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Is it just local, or is it like a – is it a true competition and has several channels,

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you know?

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They were showing me around into the server room and things like that, and it apparently

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they have receivers like you would have for satellites.

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So they have satellite receivers for each station, which feeds them to an encoder.

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So it's limited to the number of – you have one encoder per channel.

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And I want to say they have – I saw like 60 or 70 encoders.

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Hmm.

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So it's not a lot compared to something like, you know, DirecTV, where you have every channel

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known to man.

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Right, right.

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But, you know, it's a viable option.

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And it looks really – oh, and one of the coolest things – I thought this was really

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fat – is they had a demo – I had to go fill out some paperwork, and they had a demo,

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one of the demo TVs, you know, for the waiting customers.

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Right.

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And actually, if you have DSL, phone service, and TV, like when somebody calls in, the caller

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ID information pops up on the TV.

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Yeah, I think I've heard of devices that you can buy that will do that for you.

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I thought that was actually kind of cool.

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Yeah, that is – that's kind of neat.

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What about video recorder, DVR?

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That I don't know about, but I would assume – well, obviously it's –

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Because you mentioned rewinding, and that's usually a feature because you have it stored

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locally that you can rewind it.

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Right.

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I don't know for sure, but, I mean – well, no, I shouldn't say that.

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I'll leave that alone.

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I don't know for sure.

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Yeah, well, again, we'll get more information hopefully soon as you get more acclimated here.

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Man, you're going to have a rough couple of weeks, too.

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Working two full-time and going to school, man.

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It's – whoo, that's rough.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully this semester will be over soon.

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That's going to be rough, rough, rough, rough, rough.

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All right.

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Let's see.

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What are we time here?

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We've got a little time, and I've got a couple other smaller things I want to ease out on here.

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I really wish we had a little bit more technical information on that,

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and I'm going to research that for upcoming episodes,

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see if I can find out a little bit more detail of how that works

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and what the underlying technology is and see if I can come up with some explanations for it.

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But very, very cool if that actually takes place.

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And it seems like that's only come up in about a year of research.

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I mean, that's pretty amazing.

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I mean, again, I love the fact that there are universities out there

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that are still doing research to try to push technology ahead.

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I mean, TCP has been around for a long time.

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Yes, it works.

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Yeah, it still works.

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It still gets the job done,

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and we're tweaking and squeezing every last little drop of efficiency out of it.

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But that's no reason to stop development and looking forward towards the future, you know.

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So I'm very cool that there are universities doing studies like this.

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So NC State, I'll include those.

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That's part of my shout-outs to NC State and to their computer science department for doing this kind of research.

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Now, this one actually surprised.

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I don't know how this snuck up on me, this topic.

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Our good friends at Walmart.com.

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This is a little Project Walmart Freedom News, I guess.

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I wish Duel was here to yell at this one and go off about this one.

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But Walmart.com, apparently, I completely missed.

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Did you know this, by the way, before I go into it?

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Did you know that they started doing this?

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Yeah, I had been looking at it about a month ago.

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Yeah, I had no idea.

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It completely snuck up on me.

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But they are now offering music downloads like iTunes.

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They're competing with iTunes and those types.

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88 cents.

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For 88 cents.

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They're undercutting iTunes 99 cents with their 88.

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They're, you know, Walmart low prices every day, whatever the hell their slogans are nowadays.

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They're undercutting them.

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For 88 cents, you can download music tracks and have legal right to the digital version of whatever song you want.

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Or full albums they even have for sale, I look there.

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And I went and checked this out.

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And they also do, like, Netflix, which is where you pay a monthly fee and you can rent all the DVDs you want.

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And you mail them back.

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Apparently, they've knocked that off, too.

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They're doing a similar thing.

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You can rent DVDs from them.

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I never saw or heard anything about this.

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It completely snuck up on me.

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I'm sure Duel probably knew about it, like I said.

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But that completely blew me away.

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So we've got to do some research on that.

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I'm not signing up for it, but somebody will.

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We'll get Duel to do it.

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He's like Mikey.

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He'll try anything.

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They have, like I said, I didn't try it.

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I'm not going to try it.

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But they're going to use, I'm assuming, see, I don't ever remember there ever being a digital copyright scheme that actually worked.

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Everything that I've seen proposed and put out there was all busted.

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Some super easily, and we've talked about in the past.

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But apparently, they are trying this again.

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And they're putting limits, which I assume is in some sort of digital watermark or something, some sort of copyright scheme, that allows you, according to this, this is Walmart.

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Now, I assume iTunes is something similar.

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But Walmart allows you to do three things.

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It's got to download music to one computer and to back it up to two additional computers.

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Now, I don't know how in the world they count or know how many computers you've backed it up to or whatever, unless they're somehow communicating with each other.

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I mean, can you figure, I don't know how that one could be.

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Not really big on the DRM.

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That's not, yeah.

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The second thing is it'll let you make ten burns to a CD.

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I don't see why you have any limit, but ten seems like it's more than enough.

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I mean, if I ever burn, I'm burning one or two, you know.

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And three, to make unlimited transfers to portable players.

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Well, that's, you know, that's what the majority of people are going to do with it, I would think.

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Put it on their iPods or their whatever so they can go jogging so they can listen to it when they're on the bus, whatever.

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I'm not sure about this.

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What happens if I burn it to a CD and then take it to work and put it on the computer from the CD?

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Or can I not extrude?

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See, I've got to try this to know the details of it.

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If anybody has tried it, by all means, email us radio at binrev.com if you've tried this and let us know.

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I do know that by reading about it, doing a little bit of research, I know that, first of all,

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so Microsoft Windows only requires Microsoft Media Player 9.

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And for those of you who know, 9 is when they really started going heavy on the digital rights management,

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the DRM, Voodoo Howe was mentioning.

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And I have not upgraded to Media Player 9.

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I knew they were putting that crap in there, so I purposely have not upgraded to it yet.

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So I'm still using, I guess, 7, really, because I don't think I've updated in a while.

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Always use the older versions unless you have a reason to upgrade to these new ones.

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At work, I upgraded it because I think some website I went to required it, and I wanted to watch the video,

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so, and who cares, it's a work computer, big deal.

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But these downloaded songs are not MP3 format, they're WMA.

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Yeah, they're Microsoft's Windows Media Author, is that what, Audio or something, is that what it stands for?

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I think so.

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It's their proprietary Microsoft format, it's not MP3, you can't get AugVorbis out of it,

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it's Microsoft-only format.

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So if you've got a CD deck in your car or something that only supports MP3, you're screwed.

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You know, which I think really sucks.

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This is something that you just can't, simply can't use.

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So, that's a little lame, but I guess they're not aiming at people who want to do that,

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they're aiming at, well, they're aiming at Walmart customers, frankly.

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I'll just let you read into that what you want to.

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I'll leave that statement alone.

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Exactly, I'll let you read whatever you want to read into that.

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They're aiming at the people who buy, you know, white-tail hunting, deer hunting, fishing, you know.

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Oh, those are the best games, man, come on.

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Now, don't knock the fishing, I'm down with the fishing.

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But the whole, yeah, anyway.

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The game, why would you want to play a fishing game when you could go out and fish?

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That's the thing I've never figured out.

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Well, if you're a geek like me, the sun is a problem.

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Yeah, boy, I could give you a story.

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I'm actually suffering from a little sunburn right now.

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Spent the weekend down at the Haitian Swap Shop, got a little footage I might share with the audience soon.

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Yeah, how's that for a teaser?

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Now, here's the questions I have about this, too.

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First of all, is it going to be interchangeable with other types, like iTunes, for example?

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Can I combine all of these into one application and have them mixed and matched and stuff like that?

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And mix them with, what if I actually own an audio CD and I want to rip it to put it to my portable device, my iPod, my portable player, something like that.

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Can I mix and match these with no problems?

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Is it going to give me all kinds of errors and it doesn't know what's legal and what's not or what it thinks is copyrighted and what it doesn't know is copyrighted?

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You know, that's a concern.

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You know, I don't know how they're going to handle that or if that's going to be a problem or not.

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Maybe they have, I don't know.

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And frankly, because it's Walmart, can I get the full, original, unedited version of a song?

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You know, are they going to give me the edited where they take out the bad words?

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Because that's what they do with the CDs.

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Oh, Lord, no, please.

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They've got to, I'm certain they must do it.

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I mean, you're going to get controversial songs.

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You're going to find Cop Killer at Walmart.

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You know, are you going to find, are you going to find Madonna in their, what was it, I don't know what her latest controversial song is.

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Are you going to find this stuff from Walmart.com or are they going to play or are they going to do the editing thing?

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And I, I presume they're going to edit.

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I'm sure, why would they do anything different on the internet than they're doing in the stores?

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And, you know, again, what the, who's going to do that?

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Who, I don't know.

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Anyway.

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And then what it breaks down to, I was looking at one earlier and I think it was about ten bucks to download the whole CD.

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Well, frankly, you can go to Walmart and buy the CDs, most of the cheap CDs, mass marketed crap for around ten, twelve bucks.

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I don't mind paying a couple extra bucks for the, have the liner and stuff like that in that.

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Right.

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You know.

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Of course, I'm not paying that much for a CD anyway, but I'm just saying.

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So, and of course the last word on this is, after reading through their instructions and the how it works pages and stuff,

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this is my favorite part of the whole thing.

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It says, quote, note, music downloads from Walmart.com will not play on the Apple, Macintosh, or Linux operating systems.

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Yeah, that's one of the problems I ran into, and I kind of, because I brought Blandon to, I remember,

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talking him into trying out iTunes.

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Yeah, anything you download off iTunes, you also can't take around Linux.

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There's nothing on Linux that'll play it.

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Windows will at least play it, but that's only through the Windows iTunes client.

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Oh, see, that's, that's just weird.

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I have a pet peeve about that as well.

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You know that whole Pepsi, iTunes thing, right?

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Right.

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And I had to have bought like 30 Pepsis.

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I think we won like 20 songs.

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I think my kidneys fell, started failing before I decided to give it, call it quits.

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Right.

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Anyway, I ended up having to format and forgot to back up those AAC files, those, yeah, the downloads.

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Is that what they are, AAC files?

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Yeah.

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There is no way to recover them, apparently.

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Apparently, Apple says, well, okay, what you do with them is what you do with them.

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I mean, obviously, I have a record of me purchasing them.

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All right, so you can't go back and re-download it?

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Exactly, but they won't let you, or at least I can't find them anywhere, and if anyone knows

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of us in an easy way, you know, definitely email me at voodoohouseinrev.com.

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I would love to know, because I'd like to get my damn things back.

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Yeah, that's, that's lame.

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Is that just because of the Pepsi ones?

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Because the Pepsi free iTunes ones you got, or is that for all of the other iTunes stuff?

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See, honestly, I had MP3s that are songs that I had purchased myself as well, so.

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You know, that's apparently anything.

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Hmm, now that's not cool at all.

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Can you demand your money back?

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I guess not on a free thing, huh?

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Nah.

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All right, well, we are running low.

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I got one funny little story here that, because I always bitch about how Japan gets cool phones

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and stuff, and they take a year or longer before they ever come here.

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Actually, it's getting longer and longer.

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Instead of shorter time for us to catch up, it's becoming, you know, two years before we

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see the cool phones here.

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And cell phones are so popular in Japan, this is just a funny story to end with.

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The big trend going on over there right now is cell phone cases that are waterproof, that

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you can put your cell phone inside of it and put it in the shower with you so that you can

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talk on your cell phone in the shower in the morning.

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There's, they have, there's so, everyone over there uses their cell phones so much more

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than us, and they're so much more popular and in use over there that they actually have

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a need for a device like this, first of all.

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You know, first of all, that's amazing that they actually, they actually have this great

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tool and they use it every day.

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Now, maybe it's crossing a line using it in the shower, I don't know, and there's probably

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a prawn joke there, a phone sex joke somewhere that I'm not even going to go, I'm not going

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to touch.

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I'll just leave that one alone.

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But we can't even get good phones, like I said.

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We can't even get good phones over here in a reasonable amount of time compared to what

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they get.

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So, that sucks.

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Period.

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That just, that sucks.

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And, of course, we can't, you know, it's not like a, you can order a region, other region

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DVDs or other electronics from other countries and stuff like that because they're using different

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technology that wouldn't work over here anyway.

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Even if you did order it and have it shipped from overseas, you know, global economy and

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all, we don't have the technology.

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We can't make it work over here.

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So, come on, people, catch up.

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Catch up, United States.

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Somebody pay attention, damn.

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Talking out of my ass here, nobody's listening.

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Ah, speaking of talking out of my ass, that's for a segue.

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Let's close up the show.

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Alright.

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Oh, man, I'm sorry I was so bummed, but damn it, I'm so mad at myself.

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I had this whole nice thing all typed up.

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I had the article ready to go, big breakthrough announcement and, oh, and I don't know, I

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don't think it works, damn it, after all.

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It looked like it worked, and we tested it, didn't we?

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Alright, shout out.

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I got a lot of shout outs.

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I got a few shout outs, so why don't you go first?

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You got any shout outs you want to give?

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Big shout outs to Hack and Slash, welcome aboard.

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We always need slaves.

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I mean, welcome aboard.

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Yep.

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And dude, the Photoshop thread in the forums is hilarious.

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I forgot, can I do a quick announcement?

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Absolutely.

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I have, a friend of mine and I have been talking about this for a while.

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Some of you have seen Travelocity's new ads with the gnome, the traveling, the roaming

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gnome.

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Right.

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I don't know if you've seen it.

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Anyway, we were sitting around one night, and we had this great idea to create a site

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called DarkSideGnome.com, and take the little gnome, the same gnome from the pictures,

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and we wanted to actually take him to like strip clubs and things, and have pictures of

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them with strippers, and have them with big beer bottles, but unfortunately I don't think

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we're going to be able to do it, so I'm going to need some people who are decent with GIMP

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to help us out if you want to help with the little project.

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It's nothing special, but it's just something we're bored and want to do.

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This is just a for fun thing.

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What is it called again?

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DarkSideGnome.com, and hopefully we'll be registering that in the next couple of days.

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You better register it before this airs.

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And, oh, Sonic buys it.

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Well, kick your ass.

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I'll kick you in the nuts.

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I'll sick stank on you.

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Yeah, I'll kick you in the nuts.

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Respect my authority.

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I'm sorry, that's my cart, and that's as good as it gets.

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But yeah, it's just one of those for fun projects, but it was just one of those things that came

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about, and it was actually really funny when we were thinking about it.

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Just all the really bad pictures, like Whitesword and his porn shop, if we could get some pictures

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of the gnome with the giant.

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Were you drunk when you came up with this idea?

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Were you drunk when you came up with this idea?

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Do what?

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I said, were you drunk when you came up with this idea?

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Completely sober, sadly enough.

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Oh, man.

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Sadly enough is right.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah, shouts to Hack and Slash.

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I second that on the show last week.

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All-time high ratings.

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So, Hack and Slash is the man.

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The Mac Daddy.

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And now, officially, the youngest member of DDP.

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Wow.

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You got anything else?

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No, that's it for me.

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All right.

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I'm going to shout out, I mentioned it earlier, but I'll give a shout out to Decoder for having

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me on Default Radio.

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Lots and lots of fun.

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Always makes me laugh.

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That was a blast.

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I want to try to do that more often if he would have me on the show.

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Him and In Theory have to do such, it's such a fun show.

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So, and to Jason Scott over at textfiles.com for, he's working on a BBS documentary.

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So, and it's actually at bbsdocumentary.com.

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There's a plug.

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Go check that out.

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So, and it's, he's got a lot of great footage, good quality, and it looks like it's very well

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put together.

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He's doing a great job on that.

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So, shouts to him.

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And, um, email us again, radio at binrev.com if you have anything to add to anything, or

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corrections, or rants, or death threats, whatever.

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Send them to radio at binrev.com.

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Um, again, I'm going to remind people, send articles for Binary Revolution 2.2, articles

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at binrev.com.

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It is time, it is long overtime, if you want to get in, and, frankly, if you want to keep

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the magazine going, we need submissions.

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We need good submissions.

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So, we've only gotten a few submissions that are even worthwhile, and then some idiot goes

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and forwards 1 to 2,600.

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Damn fool.

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I know.

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What the hell was he thinking?

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So, um, hopefully that was, oh, what an idiot I am.

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Boy, I'm just having a bad week.

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I'm just having such a bad week.

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Uh, closing music tonight is from Tree Wave, which actually is used in that, uh, BBS documentary

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from Jason Scott.

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Uh, and it's called May Banners, and I heard that, thought it was pretty cool, so I'm going

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to close out the show with that.

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And, I think that is going to do it.

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So, Voodoo Howell, thank you again for being on the show.

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It's got the module finished, and RFA is now in the playlist.

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Oh, you did that while we were recording?

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Yeah.

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See, now that is multitasking.

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See, that is, that's, uh, uh, uh, what is it called?

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Uh, dual processing at its finest there.

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So, yeah, we'll wrap it up.

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Uh, hopefully I'll be a little bit more upbeat next time.

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See, now, if actually I pull this out of the fire, and I actually figure out that I can

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get this hack to work after all, then I'm going to be elated on the next episode.

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I'm just going to be, I'm going to be double my normal self next episode.

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Or I might just be even more unbearable than usual.

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But, if you want to find out, you'll have to tune in next week.

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Same hack time.

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Same hack channel.

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Peace.

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Peace.

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Peace.

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Peace.

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Peace.

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Peace.

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Peace.

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Peace.

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Peace.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.

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We'll be right back.