This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million game pegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll school you on burning dream cats
You need some ISO? Let me do my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ, leave your fight on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the creepers
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RANs, SIFs, SIFs
This is dedicated to the hackers and the creepers
Hello everyone and welcome back
Or I guess I shouldn't say welcome back to them
I guess we're the ones coming back
And of course when I say back
I mean we're back from Hope, the hackers on planet Earth
Hope, the fifth hope in New York City
The conference put on by 2600
And by we, I mean myself, Stank Dog
Along with ZeroDB
And this is episode 54 of Binary Revolution Radio
Originally this is airing on July 20th, 2004
So I hope you're listening to it live that day
And yeah, we are finally, at least I am
I don't know about you, but I'm finally caught up on my sleep
And getting back into the swing of my sleeping pattern
Man, I haven't, I haven't got rest yet
I come back, I went straight to work
And I look at the schedule
They schedule me Friday, Saturday, Sunday
All the way to Thursday
I won't get another day off until Friday
Yikes
Well, I'm kind of screwed
And my damn boss is on vacation
So I can't do anything except freaking work
Yeah, I had to come back and work too
And luckily though, I had the weekend
I only had to work that Thursday and Friday
It didn't help that our plane didn't arrive until 1 a.m
Yeah
Almost 1 a.m
We got delayed in LaGuardia flying back
From bad weather
We were supposed to have left at 7
And we left at 9.30
Well, you arrived, didn't you?
Yes, I arrived in one piece
And I'm thankful for that
I truly am
But yeah, just
After the long week
And the long weekend up there
And all the sleep we missed
Or neglected
I should say neglected
Kind of looking forward to coming back
And going to bed that night
And didn't get it
So I had to go to work
And you're still going
Luckily, like I said, I caught up
So I feel for you, man
Yeah, I'm still kind of like struggling here
But I'll make up for it
Either Friday or Saturday
Yeah, you know what?
I'll go ahead and tell you up front
I will not call you Friday
I'm not going to disturb you
Just sleep in
And you'll feel a whole lot better the next day
I slept like Friday night until Saturday
Like 2 or 3 o'clock in the afternoon
Oh
It was a good long catch up sleep
I don't care what anybody says
All these doctors or whatever
I don't care what they say
I still say you can catch up on sleep
I really believe that
I know it
I can catch up on sleep
I don't know about everybody else
But I can catch up on sleep
Yeah, well, sleep is undefeated
You can't beat sleep
Well, you can't beat it, no
But you can
You can put it on pause for a little while
And catch up some of it later
It's probably not healthy
And I wouldn't recommend it
But
Yeah, if you've been up
Neglecting sleep for like
Almost a month straight
Because I was getting ready for the conference
For the presentations I was putting on
And just the trip
And all the stuff that was going on there
Neglecting sleep for damn near a month
And then coming back
Boy, when I got that first
Real good long night of sleep
Oh, it felt good
Yeah, well, you barely
You barely made it to the plane
I know
Yeah
You're not even joking
And remember
I was trying to sleep on the plane
I was thinking to myself
It's going to be, what
A three hour flight
From Florida to New York
South Florida to New York
For the listeners know where I'm at
Down in South Florida
And those
We were on soul plane, man
I'm telling you
I couldn't sleep
The thing was all jammed into my neck
And my neck was bent forward
How are you going to sit in a chair
That pushes your neck forward
I was looking down the whole trip
Because the cushion was so big
It was pushing my head down
Yeah
So needless to say
I didn't get any sleep on the plane either
So
We made it
Yes, we did make it
And again, you know what
I am actually thankful for that
So, hey
And I guess
Since we're talking about Hope
We might as well say
Welcome to
Some of the new listeners
That we might have picked up
Or hopefully picked up at Hope
Oh yeah
Lots of people
Yeah, we met a lot of cool people there
A lot of people who had already heard of the show
And listened to the show
And a lot of people who had not
So if you are one of the new listeners
Welcome
And we hope you enjoy the show
And this particular episode actually
Is going to be our
Story hour review
Of the Hope Conference
And pretty much a whole show
Dedicated to that
And some of the
Activities and events
That we partook of
While we were there
And of course
You know
Welcome to our regular listeners
We're always glad to have them around
And I guess also
Let's have a little point of clarification
That last week
We were actually going to record an episode
From the hotel room
And Hope
We stayed a few extra days
To do the New York City tourist thing
And we were going to record an episode
However, we decided that it might just be better
We didn't know what kind of quality
We'd be able to get from the hotel
Working on my laptop
And at the Hope Conference
What we did was recorded RFA
The lost episode of RFA
Episode 76
Which was an episode that mysteriously
Vanished or disappeared
Or was stolen
Or basically never existed
Episode 76 of Radio Freak America
So we kind of always said
That we would eventually get that done
Because we owed it to the listeners
And stuff
So at Hope
We did a special recording
Of RFA 76
Dual parallel of course
Hosting
And you know
A lot of the other hosts
It was kind of like another
I don't know
Another final episode
We got a lot of recap
We had a special guest on the show
So we thought that it would just be
Pretty cool for the listeners
To get that surprise episode
That was lost all this time
So we streamed that last week
In our time slot
So we hope you enjoyed that
It was still pretty much
The usual crew
The usual suspects
That we have on here
But this week we are back
Episode 54
Like I said
And we are beginning
Actually this is the second episode
Of season 2
So we kind of
We took off one week there
And enjoyed our trip at Hope
And now we're back
And hopefully we'll start
Another good long stretch
So there is no lost episode
Of BinRev Radio
Don't worry about that
One interesting thing
That happened while we were gone
You know
The other thing is
When I got back
I had to catch up on the site
On emails
On instant messages
On private messages
Etc etc
And one thing that I found
When I got back
Was that apparently
Somebody
Tried to attack our site
While we were gone
Somebody thought
That it was the opportune time
That when the dog
Is out of the house
They decided to
Try a little attack
On our site
They failed miserably
Laughably
It was just
It was just pathetic
It was just
One of the
It was a lame
DOS attack
What day was that?
You know what
I would have to go back
And dig the email back up
But
You know
If you have a properly
Configured router server
It'll swat that stuff away
Like a fly
Like it's nothing
Right
And you know
I got a message
From the router
I have it set up
To notify
Notifies me
That somebody's
Trying to attack
It diverted it
Nipped it in the bud
I mean
Come on guys
That's so lame
If that's all you got
Please don't waste my time
Seriously
Don't even bother
There's probably somebody
At the con or something
Well
I don't know
Yeah
Well hopefully they learned
That it's not going to be
That easy to do that
I also actually had
Another attack on the server
Somebody tried a dictionary
Attack on the server
But
They actually sent an email
And notified me
That they were going to do it
Or asking
Well
Kind of asking
They were telling me
That they needed to do it
So
Actually
I don't care about that so much
If you tell me
Then I know that when I see it
You know
That I'm prepared for it
It doesn't upset me
As long as it's not
Disrupting service or something
You know
I didn't mind that so much
At least they told me why
And the reason they were doing it
I could have
You know
If I would have been
In a position to access a server
Now guys
I've been unplugged
From the server
For a couple weeks
Like a few days before we left
And then a few days afterwards
I hardly came
I hardly logged on at all
I did not log in at all
So some stuff
Went on
While I was not
Quite available
To clean things up
So
The person
Had a reason for doing it
So it doesn't bother me too much
I think
And they know who they are
They should be a little bit ashamed
That just a basic
Simple dictionary attack
Worked
For what they were trying to do
They should be ashamed
Of that fact
But that's
You know
That's neither here nor there
That's a whole
Whole separate issue
So
Yeah I
Let's see
Before I jump into the email
Let me
Let me just give a quick
Mention
That
At the HOPE conference
I gave a presentation
Called
AS400
Lifting the veil
Of obscurity
Which was
A little presentation
On the AS400 system
What it is
How it works
Some of the holes
And possible weaknesses
Of that system
So
I want to say that
Early in the show
Because I'm going to read
Some email
That was feedback
Related to that show
So I didn't want
People to be confused
So the first email
I got
Was
Exactly about that
It's from
A person's real name
That we don't read
On the show
But it says
Quote
Hi Stankdog
I've been working
With the AS400
On and off
For around 15 years
And I loved your presentation
At the 5th HOPE conference
Thank you
My earliest consulting experience
With AS400
Has mostly been
The conversion
And deployment
Of large applications
From deep
Deck hardware
The apps were often
Written in PDP-11
Or VAX Assembler
The consulting company
I formed in college
Became IBM's
Consulting problem solver
Whenever they had
A difficult migration
Problem
Partly because
My professor
Was a world class
Expert in language
Conversion tools
And I was the only
One on my block
Besides the university
With working PDPs
And VAXN
In my shared living room
And a free
128 kilobit
Dedicated link
To the internet
I lived in a
Hacker house
At college
And those machines
Are great space
Heaters in winter
Not to mention
BABE magnets
I don't know
About the BABE magnets
Part
I must have missed
That part of it
But ten points
For use of the word
VAXN
Let's see
Where was I
Okay so
IBM basically
Paid my way
Through college
And grad school
Not to mention
Financing plenty
Of house parties
And they even
Gave me lots of
Free rods
In their private jet
To Rochester
Which is where
IBM headquarters is
To meet with
Prospective clients
Oh well
I like to grow my hair
Long and have a beard
Though I clean up well
So I never have made it
As an IBM employee
But I do have a warm
Place in my heart
For IBM
And for DEC
Even though I cost
Them a lot of business
I am still an
Independent consultant
And recently I've been
Reunited with the
AS400
I'm currently
Architect and lead
Developer on a
Web based content
Management and
Publishing system
For a digital
Publishing firm
In the New York
Area
On iSeries
V5R2
That's the version
Of OS400
With Web
Sphere
Java
DB2
SQL
MQ Series
And Notes
And I'm also
The application
Administrator
Until we find
A competent
Systems administrator
Who can do
OS400
Linux
And Windows
Administration
As you might
Have guessed
My current client
Is a True Blue
Shop
True Blue
Of course
He's referring
To IBM
So far
My client
Has sold
Its service
To several
Clients
And the
Project
Is a
Big
Success
Can't say
That about
Every
Java
Project
Well
I won't
Get into
A contest
Here
And make
People mad
Even though
I will
I don't
Know that
You can
Say that
Any
Java
Project
Is a
Big
Success
But
Don't
Let
Voodoo
Hal
Hear me
Say that
He'll
Get
Offended
I really
Okay
Here's
This is
The
This is
The part
That I
Really
Wanted
To
Read
On the
Show
I should
Have
Skipped
The head
Maybe
But
He says
I really
Took
Your security
Warnings
To heart
And since
I've
Got a
Development
AS400
That I
Can
Do
Pretty
Much
Anything
I
Want
With
For
My
Current
Project
I'm
Going
To
Be
Tracking
Down
All
Your
Articles
And
Cracking
The
Red
Books
On
OS
400
Security
This
Is
Especially
Important
Because
We'll
Be
Using
I
Series
E
Servers
As
Our
Production
Web
Application
Servers
Exposed
To
The
Internet
And
That's
Not
Uncommon
At
All
That's
Very
Common
A
Lot
Of
People
Do
That
And
You
Know
That's
One
Of
The
Reasons
They
Gave
The
Present
400
Ones
And
Watching
The
New
TV
Show
I'd
Also
Like
To
Chat
Sometimes
I
Can't
Make
This
Just
Def
Con
If
You're
There
But
Do
You
Hang
Out
On
IRC
At
All
Do
You
Do
Any
Other
Conferences
Let
Me
Know
Cheers
Okay
First
Off
Thank
You
For
The
Email
I
Do
Appreciate
The
Kind
Words
I'm
Not
Going
To
Make
It
To
Def
Con
This
Year
Unless
You
Still
A
Slim
Possibility
That
I'll
Make
It
At
The
Last
Minute
Some
Things
Have
To
Fall
Into
Place
And
If
I
Do
It
Will
Be
Fly
Up
Friday
After
Work
And
Fly
Back
Sunday
In
Time
For
Work
Monday
Morning
So
If
I
Do
It's
Going
To
Be
A
Short
Trip
But
That's
Pretty
Much
A
Long
Shot
To
Be
Honest
And
About
Your
Cons
I
I'm
Glad
That
You
Took
I
Wanted
To
Give
Anybody
And
Everybody
Who
Wanted
To
Learn
A
Better
Understanding
Of
The
AS
400
And
How
It
Works
And
Some
Of
The
Weaknesses
And
Some
Of
The
Oversights
That
System
Administrators
Make
And
Stuff
Like
That
This
Was
For
Anybody
And
Everybody
Who
Might
Have
Been
Interested
In
That
I
Knew
Hackers
Of
It's
A
Hackers
Convention
I
Knew
There
Be
Hackers
Wanting
To
Learn
From
It
I
Also
Know
That
Security
Professionals
Or
Just
People
Who
Want
To
Be
Educated
On
A
Subject
Also
Go
To
The
Conferences
And
Hopefully
They
Would
Learn
From
It
As
Well
So
You
Know
That
Was
The
Goal
Of
My
Presentation
I
Said
That
At
The
Very
Beginning
Of
Those
Goals
Too
So
Thank
You
For
Receiving
The
Message
That
I
Was
Sending
And
That
Working
In
That
Direction
So
Kudos
I
Got
Another
Email
From
A
Real
Name
Person
Who
Will
Still
Remain
Nameless
And
It
Says
Quote
Brilliant
I
Shouldn't
Even
Read
That
Brilliant
You
Were
Mobbed
At
The
End
So
I
Decided
To
Hold
Off
On
My
Questions
I
Really
Hope
I
Can
Meet
Up
With
You
To
Ask
A
Few
Of
Them
I
On
My
Blackberry
So
You
Can
Respond
And
I
Is
Everything
Logged
By
Default
And
Two
Can
The
Logs
Be
Sent
To
Syslog
What
Backup
Tools
Are
Available
I
Am
Wearing
A
Green
T-shirt
That
Says
Who
Is
Your
Daddy
If
You
Spot
Me
And
You're
Free
Let's
Talk
And
Actually
I
Did
Meet
Up
With
This
Person
He
Was
Right
I
Had
A
Lot
Of
People
Come
Up
After
The
Conference
With
Questions
And
Luckily
This
Understood
That
I
Hope
Everybody
Understood
I
Had
To
Move
Off
The
Stage
And
Let
The
Next
Presenter
Come
Up
And
Stuff
Get
Prepared
So
Kind
Of
Answered
As
Many
Questions
As
We
Were
Filing
Out
But
I
Did
Actually
Meet
Up
With
Him
Back
At
The
Vendors
Booth
When
We
Got
Back
There
And
Spoke
To
Him
For
A
Few
Minutes
So
I
I'm
Glad
That
We
Were
Able
To
Meet
Up
And
Answer
Some
Of
Your
Questions
And
As
I
Said
At
The
Beginning
Of
The
Show
I
Didn't
Have
Access
To
Well
I
Guess
That's
A lie
I
Had
Access
But
I
Just
Didn't
Have
The
Time
Or
The
Desire
To
Log
On
And
Check
Email
Or
Anything
Like
That
I
Was
Pretty
Much
Completely
Unplugged
For
The
Whole
Conference
While
Meanwhile
He's
Sitting
There
With
A
Black
Berry
And
He's
Instant
You
Know
He's
Right
On
The
Cutting
Out
Of
Technology
Emails
Sent
To
Him
Instantly
Sitting
In
The
Hackers
Conference
I
Mean
This
Guy
Was
Plugged
In
More
Than
I
Was
I
Was
Completely
Unplugged
And
He
Was
On
The
Opposite
End
Of
The
Spectrum
You
Know
What
I
Don't
Like
Those
Black
Berries
I
Really
Don't
Why
Not
I
Don't
Know
They
Don't
They
Just
They
Just
They're
Awkward
They
Just
They
Just
Seem
They
Just
Seem
Real
Awkward
They're
Clunky
I
Don't
Like
The
Keyboard
It's
Too
Small
I
Can't
Quite
Put
My
Finger
On
It
It's
Not
A
Technology
Thing
It's
More
Like
An
A
Thing
You
Know
I
Just
Don't
Feel
I
Just
Can't
Picture
Myself
Sitting
There
And
Typing
In
An
Email
Message
On
It
First
Of
All
And
If
I
Can't
Input
On
It
I'm
Just
Reading
Emails
That
Other
People
Send
Me
I
Mean
I
Can
Do
That
With
SMS
Messaging
I
Can
Do
That
On
My
Cell
Phone
I
Don't
Really
Need
An
Expensive
Blackberry
To
Do
The
Same
Thing
That
I
Can
Do
On
My
Cheap
Cell
Phone
You
Know
So
Anyway
But I
Mean
They
Are
Definitely
Cool
Devices
And
I
Know
Some
Friends
Of
Mine
That
Use
It
And
They
Get
Their
Email
Sent
To
Them
Right
Away
If
It's
Something
Important
In
Email
Then
Of
They
Can
Pick up
Their
Cell
Phone
And
Call
Somebody
Back
But
To
Me
It's
Still
Not
Quite
Ideal
Two
Way
Communication
Although
He
Obviously
Sent
This
From
His
So
During
The
Present
So
While
I'm
Presenting
This
Guy
Is
Ahead
Of
The
Game
He
Sent
Me
An
Email
Before
I
Was
Even
Done
Probably
Or
As
I
Was
Finished
So
That's
Kind
Of
Cool
Now
To
Answer
The
Questions
Yes
First
Of
All
First
Question
Is
Everything
Logged
By
Default
Yes
It
Is
By
Default
Everything
Is
Logged
AS
400
Box
And
Are
Sent
With
And
This
Is
It's
Been
Five
Different
Security
Settings
Or
Five
Different
Levels
Of
Security
And
Systems
Come
From
IBM
I
Believe
On
Level
Four
Maybe
Even
On
The
Level
Five
The
Highest
Level
Of
Security
And
It's
Part
Of
Their
Well
It's
Part
Of
Their
Security
Process
Is
They
Implement
That
System
And
They
Put
It
In
With
Security
Locked
Down
Tight
So
That
When
It's
All
Said
And
Done
When
They
Do
The
Install
Which
Is
Usually
Part
Of
The
Contract
They
Install
The
Hardware
They
Get
The
Software
Updated
Set
Up
Running
Secured
And
Everything
Before
They
Turn
It
Over
To
You
So
It's
Kind
Of
An
Ability
Or
Way
For
Them
To
Say
Okay
We
Shipped
The
System
It
Was
Secure
It
Was
Locked
Down
And
We
Turned
It
Over
To
You
And
We
Are
Not
Liable
For
Anything
That
Happens
On
That
Box
If
You
Choose
Afterwards
To
Lower
The
Security
Settings
And
Take
Them
Down
Or
Something
Like
That
Then
That's
All
On
You
And
They're
Not
Liable
It's
Not
Their
Fault
They
Send
Out
A
Secure
System
As
Opposed
For
Example
To
Microsoft
And
Not
Only
Microsoft
But
Microsoft
Is
A
Famous
Example
Which
Ships
With
Low
Security
And
You
Have
To
Batten
Down
The
Hatches
On
The
Damn
Thing
You
Have
To
Disable
Services
You
Don't
Need
And
Uninstall
Stuff
And
Patch
And
Blah
And
Work
It
Up
To
A
Security
Level
The
AS400
Ships
On
Maximum
Security
And
You
Have
To
Unbutton
It
If
You
Want
To
Open
Things
Up
That
You
Need
Which
I
Think
Is
A
Much
Better
Attitude
A
Much
Better
Way
To
Go
Oh
Yeah
So
Yes
On
This
High
Backup
Tools
Are
Available
Logs
Can
Be
Sent
Anywhere
So
I'm
Not
Exactly
Sure
What
You
Mean
By
Logs
Can
Be
Sent
Anywhere
They're
An
Object
In
The
System
They're
A
File
Just
Like
Any
Other
File
I
Even
Show
During
My
Presentation
I
Ran
A
Program
Or
I
Submitted
A
Submitted
A
Program
Or
Command
For
Lack
Of
A
Better
Word
That
Display
That
System
Log
To
A
An
Output
File
And
You
Can
You
Know
Whatever
Output
File
You
Want
Wherever
You
Want
Even
Move
It
To
Another
Machine
If
You
Want
FTP
And
Stuff
Like
That
So
It
Can
Be
Moved
Anywhere
So
I'm
Not
Sure
If
That's
What
You're
Asking
But
I've
Never
Tried
To
Change
The
Default
File
That
It
Reports
To
Like
If
You're
Saying
Can
You
Send
It
To
A
Totally
Different
File
By
Default
I
Don't
Know
I've
Never
Tried
That
But
I
Presume
There
Is
Because
Like
I
Said
Everything
Is
An
Object
Including
That
Program
That
Runs
That
Logging
System
I
Don't
Know
If
It's
Internal
It's
Probably
An
Object
That
You
Can
Access
And
Change
It
To
Go
Wherever
You
Want
Or
Even
Disable
It
Probably
Obviously
You'd
Have
To
Have
The
Proper
Security
Probably
Be
Something
The
File
But
You
Know
What
I
Didn't
Want
To
Touch
On
That
Topic
During
The
Presentation
I
Didn't
Touch
On
It
And
I
Didn't
Want
To
Intentionally
I
Purposely
Didn't
Touch
That
Because
You're
Talking
About
Destruction
You're
Talking
About
Destroying
Data
And
I
Understand
From
A
Hacker
Stand
Point
You
Want
To
Clean
Up
Logs
Hackers
Always
Want
To
Cover
Their
Tracks
However
You
Fix
Them
I
Didn't
Want
To
Teach
Or
Show
People
How
To
Destroy
Data
Or
Destroy
A
System
Or
Do
Damage
So
I
Just
Didn't
Even
Want
To
Touch
That
But
Is
It
Possible
The
Short
Answer
Is
Yes
So
You
Know
I
That
That's
Really
All
I
Can
Give
You
And
You
Also
Mention
What
Backup
Tools
Are
Available
I
Really
Don't
Know
That
There's
You
Know
Just
Like
Buying
Software
For
Anything
Else
I'm
Sure
There
Are
Backup
Packages
That
Exist
Built
Into
The
AS
400
Are
Save
Sys
Commands
To
Save
System
Files
Save
Data
Files
There's
A
Lot
Of
Save
Commands
In
There
Save
Log
Files
There's
A
Lot
Of
Different
Commands
To
Do
Backups
To
The
System
So
I
Don't
Know
If
You
I
Don't
Know
What
They
Can't
Do
That
You
Would
Robust
So
They
Probably
Do
Exist
Again
But
I
Don't
Know
What
They
Have
That
The
System
Does
Not
Offer
Okay
And
Let's
See
One
More
Email
Here
Because
These
Are
Long
Emails
But
They're
Very
Good
So
I
Want
To
Spend
Some
Time
Answering
These
The
Last
One
Again
Is
From
Another
Person
With
A
Real
Name
It
Says
Dear
Mr.
Dog
I
Am
A
Big
Fan
Of
Your
Radio
Show
I
Myself
Am
Not
A
Hacker
But
Am
Still
Nonetheless
Fascinated
By
The
Program
You
Present
Elements
Of
Hacker
Community
Of
The
Hacker
Community
Information
And
Such
In
A
Non
Elitist
Way
So
That
Non
Hackers
Like
Myself
Can
Learn
From
You
Rather
Than
Fear
You
I
Have
A
Ways
To
Go
Before
I
Attend
My
First
2600
Meeting
Believing
In
The
Notion
That
One
Should
Bring
Something
To
The
Table
To
Share
With
Others
Rather
Than
Take
But
Not
Give
The
Reason
I
Write
To
You
Mr.
Dog
Is
In
Reference
To
Something
You
Mentioned
In
The
Anniversary
Show
You
Said
Something
To
The
Effect
That
Everyone
Should
Find
A
Project
And
Commit
To
It
Until
It
Is
Completed
So
That
The
Hacker
Community
Will
Grow
I
Found
This
To
Be
Motivational
As
I
Am
Fairly
Scatterbrained
Myself
With
A
Tendency
To
Start
Projects
And
Never
Finish
Them
And
As
A
Result
I
Am
Never
Able
To
See
The
Fruits
Of
My
Labor
Instead
I
Look
Around
And
See
The
Multiple
Piles
Of
Documents
I
Have
Created
I
Realize
This
May
Be
Slightly
Off
Topic
But
I
Was
Wondering
How
Are
You
Able
To
Tackle
So
Many
Projects
At
Once
And
Not
Tire
Easily
Get
Bored
And
Move
On
To
The
Next
Thing
Sometimes
I'll
Be
Working
On
A
Project
And
Start
Thinking
To
Myself
Is
This
Worth
It
Am I
Wasting
My
Time
Here
I'll
Start
Second
Guessing
Myself
And
Before
You
Know
It
My
Project
Falls
Apart
The
Love
For
Hacking
Aside
What
Drives
Stank
Dog
And
How
Does
He
Stay
Motivated
Wow
Yikes
That's
A
Very
Philosophical
Question
I
Guess
Let
Touch
On
A
Couple
Smaller
Things
You
Mentioned
First
And
That
Is
Elitism
You
Know
I
We
Do
Try
To
Present
Things
In
A
Non
Elitist
Way
And
I
Know
Zero
DB
You
Can
Back
Me
Up
On
This
You
And
I
Both
Have
Talked
About
I
Just
Can't
Stand
That
Whole
Elitist
Attitude
Yeah
You
Come
Down
To
Earth
Sometimes
Just
Make
It
Simple
Plain
English
Try
To
Explain
Everything
You
Don't
Have
To
Have
Such
An
Ego
Where
You
Have
To
Make
It
Look
Like
You
The
Biggest
And
Badest
You
Know
Just
Explain
Anything
That
You
Want
That
You
Have
A
Working
Knowledge
Of
Just
Explain
It
In
Simple
Time
People
Respect
You
More
For
That
Yeah
Absolutely
Yeah
You
Trying
To
That's
Not
That's
Not
What
It's
About
Now
You
Can
You
Know
You
Don't
Have
To
Try
So
Hard
To
Be
I
Mean
Like
If
You
Know
What
You're
Talking
About
If
You
Know
Your
Stuff
It
Will
Be
Conveyed
People
Will
See
It
Exactly
But
You
Know
I
Freely
Admit
There's
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
That
I
Don't
Know
Every
Day
I'm
Learning
Trying
To
Pick
Up
More
Stuff
I
Went
To
This
Convention
Presenting
Something
That
I
Had
Experienced
In
Hoping
Other
People
Would
Pick
Up
On
It
But
At
The
Same
Time
I
Went
To
This
Convention
To
Learn
What
All
Of
The
Other
People
Had
To
Present
And
To
Talk
About
Stuff
Like
That
And
To
Meet
People
And
Learn
From
Them
I
Learned
I
Learned
So
Much
At
This
Meeting
From
Zero
DB
And
From
Not
Theory
And
Just
A
Lot
Of
People
That
I
Just
I
Mean
It
Blew
My
Mind
I
Mean
There's
A
Lot
Of
There's
A
Lot
Of
Intelligent
People
Out
There
Man
You
Just
Have
To
You
Know
Look
Past
The
Ones
That
Are
Just
Trying
To
Trying
So
Hard
To
Bring
Theirself
Up
In
The
Limelight
Look
You
Know
Just
Sit
Back
Relax
Look
At
The
You
Know
Look
At
The
Ones
That
Are
That
Are
Paying
Attention
And
Listening
And
Those
Are
The
Ones
That
Really
Truly
Have
A
Lot
To
Offer
To
The
Hiker
Community
You
Know
Yeah
It's
Just
It's
Just
An
Attitude
Thing
And
It's
Like
I
Don't
Know
I
Don't
Need
To
Be
I
Don't
Need
My
Ego
Strokes
Or
Anything
Like
That
I
I'm
You
Know
And
We're
Going
To
Talk
About
That
Coming
Up
A
Little
Bit
Later
Too
Slip
Mode
Had
A
Great
Hacker
Radio
Presentation
Where
We
Talked
About
Some
Things
That
We'll
Get
Into
Later
But
That
Means
Nothing
I'm
Here
To
Learn
Each
Week
Too
I'm
Here
Presenting
Some
Stuff
That
I
Do
Know
But
Also
Questioning
And
Learning
Stuff
That
I
Didn't
Know
So
They're
All
Students
Exactly
One
Of
The
Qualities
That
You'll
Never
Hear
Someone
In
DDP
At
Least
I
Hope
You
Won't
With
That
Elitist
Attitude
We
All
Respect
Each
Other
We
All
Respect
The
Community
And
Other
People
In
The
Community
And
That's
Something
I'm
Very
Proud
Of
I
Really
Think
We've
Got
A
Good
Group
Of
People
That
Understand
And
Get
It
You
Know
Now
What
Motivates
The
Dog
I'm
Not
Sure
Say
I'm
Not
Above
Being
Organ
Unorganized
I
Mean
I'm
Pretty
Darn
Unorganized
That's
Not
Necessarily
I
Get
Scatter
Brained
I
Start
Multiple
Projects
And
Leave
Some
Of
Them
And
Try
To
Get
Back
It's
An
Organizational
Skill
And
I'm
It's
Something
That
I
Really
Work
At
It's
Hard
It
Really
Is
Organization
Sounds
Like
A
Simple
Thing
It's
Not
Especially
When
You
Have
That
Hacker
Mind
And
I
Wrote
An
Article
One
Time
Called
Hackers
Insomnia
That
Where
I
Tried
To
Explain
It
And
I
Think
A
Lot
Of
People
Related
To
That
Where
You
Just
Have
So
Much
Going
On
In
Your
Head
At
One
Time
It's
So
Hard
To
Juggle
Them
All
Yeah
And
I
Tried
It's
Normal
Really
Yeah
And
It's
All
About
Trying
To
Organize
It
As
Best
You
Can
And
Try
Not
To
Spread
Yourself
Too
Thin
I
Work
Really
Hard
Trying
To
Organize
Things
And
I
Found
Some
Tricks
That
Work
For
Me
And
Everybody
Has
To
Find
Their
Own
But
I
Start
A
Lot
Of
Projects
And
Then
Lose
Track
Of
Them
Or
Something
Else
Comes
Along
That
Is
For
An
Article
Something
I
Want
To
Research
And
Dig
Into
And
I
Start
Writing
It
And
Then
I
Discover
My
Answer
And
I
Just
Will
Either
Lose
The
Energy
Or
The
Excitement
To
Finish
The
Actual
Writing
Part
Of
It
I
Found
My
Answer
I
Got
The
Knowledge
That
I
Want
Which
Is
Number
One
Most
Important
And
Sometimes
I
Have
A
Tendency
To
Go
On
To
Another
Challenge
Without
Finishing
The
Article
So
One
Thing
I
Do
As
Far
As
That
Goes
And
Maybe
This
Will
Help
You
Also
Is
That
I
Got
Now
So
I
Forced
Myself
To
Keep
All
My
Text
Files
In
One
Location
I
Put
Them
All
In
One
Folder
So
That
Anytime
I
Go
Browse
Through
That
Folder
I
See
Them
And
It
Reminds
Me
That
They're
Unfinished
And
I'll
See
Them
And
Get
You
Remotivated
A
Little
Bit
In
A
Strange
Kind
Of
Way
Yeah
Oh
Absolutely
So
And
You
Don't
Lose
Them
You
Don't
Mistake
Them
You
Got
Them
One
Central
Location
And
This
Of
Course
Is
Just
As
Far
As
Articles
Go
And
Stuff
Like
That
And
You
Know
The
Old
Saying
Out
Of
Sight
Out
Of
Mind
Keep
Them
In
Sight
Keep
Them
There
And
You
Won't
Forget
And
If
You
Only
Get
One
Done
That's
Great
That's
All
That
You
Were
Meant
To
Do
That's
All
You
Had
Time
To
Do
One
Is
Better
Than
Zero
One
Is
Better
Than
One
Completed
Project
Is
Better
Than
Ten
Unfinished
Ones
And
You
Know
I
That's
Really
What
That
Was
What
I
Was
Trying
To
Say
On
That
Anniversary
Is
Episode
Was
If
It
Takes
You
All
Year
To
Get
One
Article
Done
Or
One
Little
Thing
And
I'm
Not
Saying
That
Everybody
Has
To
Present
Something
Or
Make
Yourself
Provide
Something
To
The
Community
Make
Yourself
Do
Something
I'm
Saying
Try
Your
Best
To
Get
At
Least
One
Thing
Done
And
I
Think
That
You
Will
Find
That
Once
You
Get
Started
With
That
Kind
Of
Pattern
And
That
Motivation
You
Set
Out
With
A
Goal
Of
Getting
One
Thing
Done
By
The
End
Of
The
Year
And
You
Get
It
Done
After
Say
Three
Months
Hey
You
Can
Start
On
That
Second
Thing
Or
On
That
Third
Thing
But
Get
One
Thing
Done
And
Under
Your
Belt
And
I
Think
You'll
Start
To
Find
That
It's
Much
Easier
To
Do
Projects
One
At
A
Time
Like
That
You
Can
Keep
them
In
Your
Mind
And
Write
Some
Don
Notes
I
Have
A
Lot
Of
Notes
In
My
Articles
Directory
Where
I'll
Create
A
File
Name
Of
The
Topic
That
I
Want
To
Write
An
Article
On
This
Topic
I'll
Go
In
There
And
I'll
Write
Some
Bullet
Notes
Make
Sure
You
Point
Out
That
Research
This
Topic
Research
That
See
If
These
Are
Compatible
I
Write
Notes
To
Myself
Don't
Even
Start
The
Article
I
Just
Write
Notes
So
When
I
Do
Get
Time
And
Come
Up
To
That
Article
I'll
Know
What
I
Was
Thinking
At
That
Time
So
Those
Are
Some
Organizational
Things
That
Help
Me
I
Don't
Know
If
They'll
Help
You
Or
Anyone
Else
But
That
Helps
Me
Now
As
Far
As
Motivation
In
General
Organizing
Is
Just
Time
Management
And
Getting
Things
Done
My
Motivation
Is
Just
A
Hunger
Or
A
Thirst
For
Knowledge
Always
Something
To
Learn
Every
Article
That
I
Write
Is
Motivated
Because
I
Wanted
To
Learn
Something
I
Wanted
To
Learn
How
It
Worked
How
Something
Works
Why
It
Works
And
I
Assume
That
There's
Others
Out
There
That
Feel
The
Same
Way
So
While
I'm
Learning
It
I'll
Try
To
Write
It
Up
For
Other
People
You
Know
It
May
Take
Me
Weeks
Months
Years
Like
I
Said
However
Long
However
Fast
I
Can
Do
It
Or
Get
Around
To
Doing
Them
And
When
I
Get
It
Done
I
Try
To
Share
It
With
The
Community
And
Hopefully
Other
People
Can
Learn
From
It
As
Well
So
You
Know
Even
Reading
Articles
Just
Reading
Different
Magazines
BinRev
Magazine
2600
Magazines
Just
Any
Magazine
Or
Any
Articles
That
You
Might
Read
Online
Just
Read
Even
That
With
Different
Brainstorms
And
Things
That
You
Might
Be
Thinking
You
Might
Think
It
A
Little
Corny
But
Don't
Worry
About
That
Just
Go
Ahead
And
Create
The
Cause
You
Never
Really
Know
Who's
Reading
Out
There
And
There
Are
People
That
Really
Like
Different
Things
So
You
Can't
Really
Be
Worried
About
It
It's
Not
Going
To
Be
Good
It's
Not
To
Be
That
Just
Go
Ahead
And
Just
Do
It
And
Let
Others
Read
It
And
You'll
Be
Surprised
That
How
Many
People
Kind
Of
Like
You
Know
Think
Along
The
Same
Lines
As
You
I
Love
Reading
You
Know
I
Love
Reading
The
Magazine
Every
Week
I
Or
Every
Quarter
When
2600
Comes
Out
And
All
The
Others
And
Frack
Just
Came
Out
During
The
Conference
I
Believe
As
Well
And
You
And
I
On
The
Plane
Trip
But
You
And
I
Were
Both
Reading
On
The
Plane
Trip
Back
For
Three
Hours
Well
I
Wasn't
Quite
Three
Hours
Cause
I
Had
A
Little
Something
Going
On
In
The
Seat
Next
To
Me
That
Involved
A
Little
White
Bag
She
Took
Mine
Dude
She
Took
Mine
And
Just
In
Case
She
Filled
That
Up
I
Didn't
Want
Her
To
Overflow
So
I
Got
One
From
The
Seat
Behind
Me
Just
In
Case
She
Needed
The
Third
One
I
Wasn't
Sure
What
Was
Going
On
When
You
Was
I
Was
Just
Trying
Not
To
Start
A
Barf
Train
Cause
You
Know
Once
The
First
One
Hits
It's
Just
Going
To
Be
A
Wave
Through
The
Plane
That's
Not
Cool
But
Anyway
What
Does
She
Have
I
Don't
Know
I
Didn't
Ask
Her
And
I
Didn't
Want
To
Look
Oh
Okay
Yeah
But
Well
Anyway
Yeah
That's
A
Story
For
Another
Time
But
Yeah
On
The
Way
Back
You
And
Anybody
And
He
Was
A
Really
Cool
Guy
Nice
Enough
To
Sign
It
For
Us
And
That
Is
Hacking
The
Art
Of
Exploitation
From
No
Starch
Press
And
I'm
Sure
You
Can
Get
That
Online
Just
About
Anywhere
Go
To
No
Starch
Press
And
Check
It
Out
Really
Yeah
He
Was
A
Very
Down
To
Earth
Guy
You
Right
About
That
Very
Nice
Sat
There
And
Chatted
For
A
Little
While
Pretty
Good
Guy
25
24
25
Years
Old
Yep
Really
Bright
Individual
Very
Much
So
And
You
Talk
About
Motivated
I
Mean
I
Write
Some
Articles
Here
And
There
And
The
Radio
Show
And
Stuff
But
This
Is
A
Book
I
Mean
That
Dude
Respect
That
Yeah
Respect
That
This
Is
An
Entire
Book
And
It's
Very
Well
Written
And
It's
Not
I
Think
It
Not
Talking
Over
Your
Head
But
Also
Not
Talking
Down
To
You
I
Think
It's
Right
On
The
Perfect
Level
Yeah
A
Lot
Of
The
Stuff
I
Don't
Really
Understand
But
Especially
In
The
Beginning
It
Was
Pretty
Much
Plain
English
He
Brought
It
In
Such
A
Way
Where
I
Mean
If
You
Have
Any
Type
Of
Working
Knowledge
Of
Computers
Or
Even
A
Little
Program
You
Can
Pretty
Much
Put
Two
Together
And
Understand
Exactly
What
He
Saying
Even
Though
He
Sometimes
Even
Goes
Into
A
More
Simpler
Form
Of
Like
With
A
Map
Saying
You
Take
A
Car
And
Go
You
Drive
Down
This
Way
Drive
This
Way
And
He
Basically
Makes
A
Pseudocode
Right
And
He
Also
Makes
An
How
The
Program
Actually
Works
It's
Not
Putting
In
Really
Layman's
Term
Or
Asshole
Terms
Oh
Sorry
But
I
Mean
Nonetheless
He
Gets
The
Point
Across
Bottom
Line
And
You
Can
Understand
It
And
That's
How
I
Believe
Every
Book
Should
Be
Is
Where
You
Can
Pretty
Much
Understand
It
Yeah
And
I
Don't
Mind
Backing
Up
And
Rereading
A
Paragraph
Or
Even
A
Chapter
If
I
Have
To
So
And
One
Other
Thing
I
Since
We're
On
I
Was
Going
To
Talk
About
The
Book
Later
In
The
Show
But
Since
We're
On
That
Topic
Now
I
Also
Wanted
To
Give
Him
Much
Respect
For
The
Opening
The
Introduction
Of
This
Book
Which
Is
Basically
Explaining
Okay
This
Book
Is
Called
Hacking
The
Art
Of
Exploitation
And
He
Clarifies
And
Basically
Explains
What
Hacking
Is
Brings
Up
The
Visualization
Of
What
People
Think
About
Hackers
And
It
Basically
Explains
What
It
Is
And
What
It
Isn't
I've
Never
Seen
Something
That
I
Agree
With
100%
Like
I
Did
With
This
Is
The
Introduction
Is
Only
Let's
See
One
Two
Three
About
Four
Pages
Of
Text
But
It's
Absolutely
Brilliant
I'm
Going
To
Ask
Him
I'm
Going
To
Try
To
Get
In
Touch
With
Him
See
If
He'll
Give
Me
Permission
To
Just
Release
The
Introduction
Or
Something
If
He
Will
Let
Me
Put
It
Up
Somewhere
Or
Read
It
On
The
Show
Or
Something
It's
Kind of
Long
To
Read
The
Whole
Thing
On
The
Show
But
It's
Just
Brilliant
Everything
He says
Is
Right
On
The
Money
As
Far
As
What
A
Hacker
Is
And
Even
When
He
Goes
Into
The
Term
Hacker
Versus
Cracker
And
He
Explains
How
That
Started
And
Didn't
Quite
Catch
On
And
Actually
I
Highlighted
One
Line
In
Here
If
I
Can
Share
This
With
The
Audience
I
Think
Sharing
One
Line
Falls
Under
Proper
Copyright
I'm
Allowed
To
Do
That
And
It
Says
It's
Describing
The
Hacker
Ethic
The
Appreciation
Of
Logic
As
An
Art
Form
And
The
Promotion
Of
The
Free
Flow
Of
Information
Surmounting
Conventional
Boundaries
And
Restrictions
For
The
Simple
Goal
Of
Better
Understanding
The
World
You
Know
And
I
Think
I'm
Going
To
Put
That
In
My
SIG
File
Because
That
I
When
I
Read
My
Books
I
Highlight
Stuff
A lot
Take
Notes
In
The
Margins
I
Don't
Mind
Writing
All
My
Books
And
Stuff
To
Learn
And
That
Struck
Me
As
Right
On
The
Money
He
Gets
It
I
Believe
That
I
Think
The
Same
Thing
And
That
Is
Beautifully
Worded
So
Much
Respect
To
Him
For
That
And
For
Getting
It
You
Know
Much
Respect
So
Anyway
Here
I
Branched
Off
This
Email
So
Let
Me
Jump
Back
In
Here
We
Kind
Of
Got
Side
Tracked
Let's
See
What
Was
I
Saying
About
Oh
So
Anyway
The
Point
Of
Talking
About
That
Is
I'm
Reading
This
Book
I
Don't
Care
That
He's
25
I
Don't
Care
That
I
Want
To
Learn
I'm
A
Lifetime
Student
I
Wake
Up
In
The
Morning
Wanting
To
Learn
Desiring
Knowledge
And
That's
My
Whole
Driving
Force
Every
Day
And
It's
Not
About
It's
Not
About
I
Don't
Know
That's
One
Of
The
Reasons
I
Do
The
Radio
Show
I
Do
Hack
TV
I
Write
Articles
And
Stuff
Like
That
My
Motivation
For
Hacking
In
General
For
Doing
All
These
Projects
Live
To
Learn
And
The
Day
That
I
Stop
Learning
Is
The
Day
That
I
Cease
To
Be
A
Hacker
Or
You
Die
It's
That
Simple
The
Day
That
I
Stop
Learning
I
Don't
Know
If
I
Should
Say
I'm
Not
Saying
This
To
My
Horn
Or
Anything
I'm
Saying
It
As
A
Matter
Of
Fact
I'm
About
To
Start
Going
Taking
Classes
At
Another
University
My
Six
University
I've
Taken
A
Lot
Of
Classes
I
Don't
Need
To
Say
You
Know
How
Much
I've
Taken
Far
More
Classes
Than
I
Need
To
I
Have
A
Tech
Job
I
Make
Decent
Money
I'm
Doing
A
Job
That
I
Enjoy
And
That
I
Want
I
Have
Degrees
I'm
Not
It's
Nothing
About
That
I've
Got
Years
And
Years
Of
Experience
In
The
Computer
Industry
It's
Not
Because
I
Have
I
Don't
Care
About
The
Grade
I'm
Not
Trying
To
Get
More
Money
I'm
Not
Trying
To
Get
A
Bigger
Degree
I
Want
To
Learn
And
That
Is
My
Motivation
For
Everything
That
I
Do
Everything
Well
That
And
Porn
But
That's
You
Know
I
Had
To
End
It
With
A
Little
Joke
I
Didn't
Want
To
Get
Too
Weird
Or
Serious
There
I
Get
Real
Corny
On
The
Show
Sometimes
People
Know
That
But
Yeah
I
Notice
He
Mentioned
Something
About
Did
He
Not
Say
Something
In
The
Email
About
He
Has
Like
A
Ways
To
Go
Before
He
Attends
The
First
2600
Meeting
Yeah
He
Did
Say
That
I'm
Glad
You
Brought
That
Up
Go
Ahead
No
Man
Don't
Worry
About
Necessarily
Having
Something
To
Give
I
Mean
Just
Your
Did
Say
That
He
Said
He
Feels
Like
He
Doesn't
He
Be
Like
A
Leech
If
He
Went
And
Just
Absorbed
Knowledge
Without
Giving
Back
No
That's
Not
It
At
All
Man
Go
Listen
And
Learn
Because
That's
The
Reason
I
Like
This
Stuff
Is
Because
I
Want
To
Learn
I
Want
To
Share
And
I
Want
To
If
I
Can
Help
You
Out
I
Be
Glad
To
If
Right
Away
On
The
First
Meeting
Or
The
Second
Meeting
Believe
Me
Going
To
Them
People
Will
Learn
From
You
Just
As
You
Learn
From
Other
People
Don't
Hesitate
About
Going
To
Something
Like
That
Just
Like
Don't
Hesitate
To
Email
Us
I'm
Glad
You
Emailed
Us
With
That
That's
A
Step
That's
A
Step
Seeking
Knowledge
And
Finding
Wanting
To
Answer
To
A
Question
Or
Wanting
To
Know
How
I
Feel
About
Certain
Things
That's
A
Step
And
Going
To
A
2600
Meeting
That's
Another
Step
Man
Go
For
It
Yeah
You
Write
A
Little
Article
And
Present
It
At
Your
2600
Meeting
Or
Just
Go
And
See
What
It's
Like
Get
The
Feel
Of
Things
First
And
That's
What
I
Prefer
To
Do
Go
Feel
It
Out
First
And
See
What
It's
Like
And
Then
Go
Back
And
See
If
You've
Got
Something
You
Can
Bring
To
The
Next
Meeting
Now
That
You've
Felt
It
Out
A
Little
Bit
Tell
them
Stank
Dog
Sent
You
They
Might
Not
Know
Who
The
Hell
That
Is
But
Whatever
And
We
Said
This
To
People
Before
Go
And
Then
Email
Us
Afterwards
And
Tell
Us
How
It
Went
Tell
Us
If
You
Liked
It
Or
Didn't
Like
It
And
Be
Honest
Tell
Us
If
It
Stank
If
It
Just
Sucked
Email
Us
And
Tell
Us
And
Tell
Us
Why
Alright
Anyway
I
Think
That's
It
For
The
Housekeeping
For
The
Email
And
Boy
That
Lasted
A
While
But
We
Did
Cover
A
Lot
Of
Hope
Topics
In
That
And
This
Is
Basically
The
Main
Topic
Of
The
Show
Is
Hope
So
We're
Time
That's
Just
Basically
The
Main
Show
Topic
So
The
Format
Is
Kind
Of
A
Little
Off
But
Not
Exactly
We'll
Talk
About
What
We
Specifically
Went
To
The
Conference
For
And
Did
There
And
What
Else
Was
Going
On
At
The
Conference
So
I
Need
A
Drink
So
I'll
Turn
This
Over
To
You
First
Of
All
Because
You
My
Friend
Besides
Walk
I
Know
I
Saw
You
Walking
Around
Sniffing
A
Lot
Of
Wi-Fi
The
Whole
Weekend
But
Besides
And
So
Is
A
Lot
Of
Other
People
But
Besides
That
I
Want
You
To
Explain
To
Me
And
To
The
Listeners
Where
The
Hell
Did
You
Disappear
To
At
Like
3
4
5
In
The
Morning
You
Come
Back
To
The
Room
Well
I
Was
In
The
Movie
Room
Watching
The
You
Know
They
Had
A
Lot
Of
Different
Movies
On
In
The
Theater
On
The
Second
Floor
And
I
Was
Watching
Everything
From
Hackers
Now
The
Movie
Room
For
Those
People
Who
Weren't
There
Please
Explain
A
Little
Bit
Yeah
The
Movie
Room
Is
Like
A
Little
Sectioned
Off
Area
That
They
Had
On
The
Second
Floor
I
Think
If
You
Go
To
The
Bin
Rev
Gallery
I
Took
Some
Pictures
It
They
Show
Movies
I
Believe
It
Was
24
7
They
Were
Showing
Movies
From
Morning
To
Night
Any
And
Every
Kind
Of
Movie
That
Anybody
Had
You
Just
Pop
Up
Okay
Cool
Pop
It
In
You
Watch
Whatever
They
Had
Everything
Sci-fi
Technology
Anything
Well
For
The
Most
Part
They
Were
Somewhat
Hacking
Related
Or
Technology
Related
Right
Yeah
They
Were
The
Both
Of
Them
Yes
But
They
Did
Have
Some
Corny
Sci-fi
Stuff
There
It
Was
Kind
Of
Like
Weird
But
You
Know
It
Was
It
Was
Pretty
Good
It
Was
Always
Something
To
Do
At
The
Con
You
Know
If
You
Weren't
There
On
The
Terminals
Hacking
Or
Browsing
Or
Do
Whatever
People
Were
Doing
I
Mean
They
Even
Had
Atari
2600
Down
There
Me
And
One
Other
Guy
Was
Playing
We
Playing
Defender
We
Was
Playing
Centipede
We
Was
Playing
All
Those
Old
Oh
Wait
A minute
You
Had
To
Play
Combat
Don't
Tell
Me
You
Didn't
Get
Away
Without
Playing
Combat
With
The
Tanks
Actually
I
Didn't
See
Combat
Oh
Man
Defender
We
Didn't
See
Combat
That
What
Else
They
Had
Pac
Man
They
Did
Not
Have
Miss
Pac
Man
But
You
Know
We
Spent
A
Couple
Hours
There
And
Then
We
Started
We
Got
On
One
There
Was
This
One
Guy
I
Lied
You
Not
There
Was
This
One
Guy
He
Was
On
That
Terminal
From
At
Least
Three
In
The
After
No
Until
Five
In
The
Morning
The
Next
Morning
What
Was
He
Doing
Is
That
The
Guy
That
Was
Rooting
The
System
Yes
You
Know
What
Much
Respect
To
Him
That
It
Was
Funny
I
Walk
Up
And
You
Know
He
He's
Like
Half
Week
Half
Sleep
But
He's
Still
Going
You
Know
And
It
Was
About
2
30
About
2
In
The
Morning
So
While
He's
Doing
Whatever
He's
Doing
And
The
Table
Has
Like
4
PCs
4
Terminals
There
And
He's
Going
From
One
To
The
Next
This
Is
At
The
First
Floor
By
The
Registration
Desk
Right
And
They
Had
Four
Terminals
Set
Up
There
Then
They
Had
Like
A
Little
They
Had
The
Atari
2600
Little
Computer
Game
Set
Up
There
And
They
Had
A
Couple
I
Guess
A
Couple
Guys
Sleeping
Behind
Us
You
Know
I
Guess
They
Didn't
Have
Nowhere
To
Crash
So
They
Just
Crash
On
The
Floor
There
In
The
Hotel
But
He
Was
Rooting
The
Systems
Back
And
For
This
Guy
He
Was
There
All
Through
The
Night
He
Finally
Got
Up
And
Left
Maybe
At
About
Five
So
While
Me
And
This
Other
Guy
We
You
Know
We
Was
Playing
Centipede
And
Whatever
We
Got
Tired
Of
That
So
Then
We
Decided
To
Hop
On
The
Terminals
To
Find
Out
What
This
Guy
Was
Doing
You
Know
Yeah
He
Wasn't
Just
Trying
To
Root
He
Rooted
Yeah
He
Rooted
Let
See how
They
Had
It
Was
Running
DSD
And
It
Was
Pretty
Much
Just
A
Cluster
Of
Four
Systems
That
Worked
Off
The
Main
Server
Which
Was
Upstairs
At
The
Knock
On
The
Second
Floor
So
But
He
Did
Root
That
He
Just
You
Went
Through
The
Grub
The
Login
Bypassed
That
And
Edit
The
File
And
It
Got
Rooted
Pretty
Much
It
Was
Pretty
Simple
Yeah
If
Might
Have
Been
From
Cy
Pete
I'm
Not
Sure
Somebody
Told
Me
That
He
Actually
Rooted
It
A
Couple
Of
Different
Times
Yeah
Because
The
Story
Was
Sort
Like
Pete
Went
Downstairs
And
He
Noticed
Something
Was
Wrong
With
The
Terminals
Or
Whatever
So
He
Went
To
Try
To
Fix
It
And
Cy
Pete
He
Was
A
Volunteer
For
The
PTC
And
He
Basically
Was
His
Job
Was
Pretty
Just
Set
Up
The
Terminals
Make
Sure
They
Functioning
Make
Sure
They
Are
Working
So
For
And
So
On
But
In
The
Mith
Of
Him
Trying
To
Figure
Out
What
Going
On
With
The
Terminals
He
Noticed
This
Guy
Was
Rooting
The
Box
So
Pete
Was
Like
Hey
What's
Up
What
What's
Going
On
What
Are
You
Doing
He
Said
Oh
Well
I
Just
You
Know
Pretty
Much
He
Was
Rooting
The
Box
So
Then
From
What I
Understand
They
Was
Just
There
For
A
While
Later
He
Was
Showing
Pete
A
Couple
Other
Things
He
Was
Doing
And
Stuff
But
It
Was
Kind
Of
Impressive
Yeah
Very
I
Don't
Guess
Did
You
By
Chance
Catch
His
Name
I
No
I
Didn't
I
Didn't
I
Didn't
Really
Talk
To
Him
Yeah
I
Would
Love
To
Give
Him
Some
Credit
Here
And
Throw
Out
His
Handle
But
He
Was
A
Real
Geek
This
Guy
He
Was
Hardcore
He
Was
Pretty
Good
He
Looked
Pretty
Young
Guy
He
Was
Pretty
Good
I
Think
That
Was
Like
In
The
Afternoon
Maybe
About
Five
Or
Six
And
When
I
Went
Down
There
To
Play
The
Atari
Game
He
Was
Still
There
At
Three
In
The
Morning
So
It
Like
Man
This
Guy
But
Like I
Said
He
Was
Going
From
One
Turn
To
The
Next
One
Turn
To
The
Next
Yeah
And
That's
The
Other
Thing
That's
Hardcore
About
That
Too
Is
Because
I
Think
He
Showed
Pete
Or
Somebody
What
He
Did
To
Fix
It
And
They
Fixed
That
One
And
Then
He
Jumped
Right
Back
On
The
Box
To
Go
To
Try
To
Root
It
A
Way
And
Try
To
Rooted
Again
Yeah
But
There
Was
Another
Problem
After
Me
And
This
Other
Guy
Finished
Playing
The
Atari
He
Was
He
Was
Mentioned
We
Was
Mentioned
Something
About
I
Mean
Personally
My
First
Experience
I
Was
On
The
Terminal
On
The
Second
Floor
And
All
Of
A
Sudden
Someone
Took
Over
The
Terminal
You
Know
They
Type
Let
Me
See
What
Was
It
Was
Like
They
Type
Fuck
Across
The
Screen
Or
Something
And
Then
They
Held
On
Return
I
Couldn't
Type
Anything
In
The
Terminal
So
I
What
The
Hell
Is
Going
On
Somebody
Must
Have
Did
Something
Or
Got
Rude
On
The
Box
Or
Something
Basically
They
Just
Took
Over
The
Terminal
My
Session
So
I
Logged
Out
Owned
Yeah
So
I
Created
Another
Account
And
By
The
Way
It
Was
Pretty
Much
An
Easy
Set
Up
Login
New
Password
New
And
Then
It
Gives
You
The
There's
A
Script
Created
Where
You
Can
Actually
Create
Your
Own
Account
And
That's
How
You
Actually
Would
Login
After
The
New
Account
And
So
I
Created
Another
Account
And
When
I
Was
Speaking
Like
I
Was
Speaking
With
The
Gentleman
He
Was
Saying
Something
Was
Fishy
With
The
Box
Because
He
Would
Login
But
When
He
Would
Who
Is
Or
On
His
Self
It
Would
Say
He
Someone
Else
So
After
About
Let
We
Sposed
To
Spent
About
An
Hour
There
Trying
To
Figure
Out
What
The
Hell
Was
Going
On
And
Basically
There
Was
A
Problem
With
The
OS
What
Was
Happening
Was
It
Would
Assign
A
Different
Users
Group
And
Put
You
In
That
Group
Say
For
Instance
Like
If
I
Create
An
Account
Called
AOL
For
Instance
Oh
Man
And
Which
I
Did
By
The
Way
AOL
Okay
I
Didn't
Pass
Pretty
Simple
But
I
Didn't
Give
A
Shit
I
Could
Create
Many
Accounts
I
Want
But
Anyway
So
If
I
Created
AOL
And
I
Would
Do
Who
Is
It
Would
Say
For
instance
My
Group
Is
Not
AOL
I
Would
Have
The
User
AOL
But
My
Group
Would
Be
Something
Else
Like
Good
So
I
Think
That's
How
The
Other
Person
Took
Over
My
Session
Before
Is
Because
I
Was
In
His
Group
And
He
Could
Do
Anything
And
Everything
He
Was
Pretty
Much
I
Guess
He
Was
Monitoring
The
TTY
And
Seeing
What
I
Was
Doing
And
I
Must
Have
Been
Disrupting
Something
He
Was
Trying
To
Do
Or
Something
I
Don't
Know
But
Bottom
line
Is
We
Spoke
To
The
Knock
About
It
And
They
Realized
Yeah
There
Was
A
Problem
With
BSD
And
It
Was
Assigning
A
Different
User
Group
To
Different
Users
You
And
So
They
So
That's
Pretty
Much
Where
I
Was
At
Down
Stead
On
Second
Four
Trying
To
Figure
That
Crap
Out
I
Must
Have
Left
There
About
Seven
That
First
Night
Seven
A.M.
Yeah
Seven
A.M.
Sun
Was
Up
When
I
Left
And
You
Know
The
Thing
Is
I
Thought
I
Was
Pushing
It
Because
I
Was
Up
To
Like
Six
Slip
Mode
And
I
That's
The
Funny
Thing
You
Were
Not
Just
Busted
Out
Our
Laptops
And
Jacked
Into
The
Network
There
And
Powered
On
You
Know
Plugged
Into
The
Floor
To
Get
Some
Power
And
We
Were
Both
Working
On
Our
Presentations
On
Our
Laptop
And
I
Finally
Went
Back
Up
To
The
Room
About
Six
O'clock
Oh
Actually
I
Forgot
About
This
Story
This
Is
A
Funny
Story
I
Just
Thought
About
This
I
Was
Working
On
Our
Laptop
We
Were
Both
Working
On
Our
Laptops
About
Six
O'clock
Working
On
Presentations
And
I
Finally
Got
My
Next
To
My
Last
Video
Edited
And
Blurred
I
Had
To
Blur
Out
Some
Names
And
Stuff
So
I
Didn't
Get
Sued
Or
Anything
So
I
Did
That
And
Anybody
Who
Knows
Anything
About
Video
Editing
And
Shouts
To
Saito
Because
I
Didn't
Know
Anything
About
It
Either
Until
He
Taught
Me
Everything
So
Doing
Some
Video
Editing
And
I
Started
It
And
What
You
Do
Is
It
Takes
A
Good
While
To
Do
The
Editing
And
Blurring
Effects
And
Stuff
And
When
I
Was
Done
You
Start
To
Export
That
File
And
I
Was
Exporting
It
In
Divx
Format
And
It
Takes
It
Approximately
I
Was
Running
A
P4
2.4
With
512
RAM
Was
Estimating
Around
An
Hour
To
Render
And
To
Output
That
AVI
File
So
Finally
About
6
O'clock
We
Were
Slap
Happy
We
Were
Just
About
To
Pass
Out
We
Were
Doing
Beavis
And
But
Head
Impressions
And
We
Were
In
Tears
Laughing
Singing
Bananaphone
At
530
In
The
Morning
People
Walking
By
Looking
At
Us
Like
We
Were
Crazy
And
We
Just
Started
Doing
Beavis
And
But
Head
Voices
And
You
Know
What
We
Were
Working
Hard
Getting
That
Stuff
Done
So
I
Decided
Okay
I
Started
It
Rendering
And
I
Unplugged
From
The
Floor
I
Kept
The
Laptop
Open
While
It
Is
Rendering
And
Said
Alright
Man
I
I'm
Going
Up
To
Bed
I'm
Going
To
Let
This
Render
Overnight
It's
Going
To
Take
An
Hour
And
I'm
Finally
Going
To
Hit
The
Bed
And
I'll
Do
My
Last
Edit
My
Last
Video
Tomorrow
Morning
Well
I
Got
Up
To
The
Room
And
This
Was
Again
About
Six
O'clock
I
Got
Up
To
The
Room
I
Go
Looking
Around
The
Room
For
A
Place
To
Plug
The
Laptop
Back
In
Because
Obviously
The
Battery
Is
Going
To
Run
Out
I
Can't
Go
To
Sleep
And
Leave
It
Rendering
Because
I
Don't
Know
If
It
Would
Finish
In
Time
So
I
Got
To
Plug
It
In
So
I'm
Looking
Around
Every
Single
Outlet
In
Our
Hotel
Room
Was
Full
Everything
And
Not
Only
Them
We
Had
Extension
We
Had
Power
Strips
On
And
Those
Were
Full
So
Here
I
Am
I'm
Like
What
In
The
World
Am
I
Going
To
Do
I've
Got
To
Get
This
Present
Done
I've
Got
To
Get
This
Editing
I
Think
Calls
Me
At
530
In
The
Morning
I
Got
No
Power
I
Got
No
Power
What
The
Are
Talking
About
I
Found
Somewhere
To
Plug
In
Though
Didn't
I
The
Only
Outlet
Left
In
The
Entire
Room
In
The
Bathroom
I
Had
To
Unplug
The
Hair
Dryer
That
Was
In
The
Bathroom
And
Plug
Into
It
And
I
Kid
You
Not
I
Plug
My
Laptop
And
Put
It
In
The
Sink
And
My
Laptop
Was
Sitting
There
Rendering
My
Video
For
My
Presentation
In
The
Bathroom
Of
The
Hotel
Pennsylvania
In
The
Sink
Balanced
On
The
Edge
And
I
Went
Over
There
And
Tried
To
Go
To
Bed
And
I
Heard
I
Think
You
Come
In
And
Leave
Again
At
About
6
30
Or
7
Somewhere
Around
There
So
I
At least
I
Don't
Know
Who
It
Could
Have
Been
A
Total
Stranger
For
All
I
Know
I
Heard
It
And
I
Said
Hey
My
Laptop
Is
In
The
Sink
Don't
Turn
On
The
Water
Or
Anything
It
Must
Have
Been
Pete
Yeah
Maybe
It
Was
Pete
I
Don't
Know
So
I
Got
Up
And
I
Figured
I
Get
Up
And
Go
Check
On
It
And
It
Was
Done
Rendering
So
Instead
Of
Going
To
Bed
I
Sat
There
And
Edited
My
Last
Video
Again
And
Started
That
One
Rendering
And
Went
To
Bed
Around
7
In
The
Morning
And
Let
It
Render
Overnight
The
Next
Day
It
Was
Pretty
Much
Done
You
And
I
Put
Some
Final
Touches
On
It
But
My
Presentation
The
Last
Little
Touches
Actually
Took
Place
Obviously
If
I'm
In
The
Bathroom
My
Laptop
Is
On
The
Sink
You
Pretty
Much
Know
Where
I
Was
Sitting
So
I
Literally
Finished
My
Presentation
In
The
Bathroom
With
Hotel
Pennsylvania
In
New
York
City
That
Was
Pretty
Close
That
Was
A
Close
I
Was
Going
To
Go
With
It
Regardless
The
Presentation
Was
Going
To
Go
It's
Just
That
I
Wanted
Those
Things
Blurred
Just
To
Protect
Myself
So
Luckily
It
Worked
Out
Remember
The
Video
Problem
That
We
Had
Having
To
Redo
Those
Small
Videos
Yeah
Even
At
The
Last
Dry
Run
About
An
Hour
Before
My
Presentation
I
Sat
Down
And
Wanted
To
Just
Go
Over
It
One
Last
Time
So
I
Had
The
Flow
I
Was
In
You
Know
I
Do
This
With
A
Show
Before
We
Start
Taping
I
Sit
Here
With
Zero
DB
Before
We
Start
Recording
And
Said
Okay
Got
To
Do
This
Got
To
Do
That
We're
Going
To
Talk
About
This
I
Kind
Of
Get
Myself
Psyched
Up
And
Ready
For
It
And
In
Doing
So
I
Found
A
Couple
Of
The
Smaller
And
Those
I
Actually
Got
Finished
About
20
Minutes
Before
My
Presentation
So
We
Really
Did
Cut
It
Super
Close
At
Least
To
Get
It
Perfect
Which
I
Always
Strive
To
Try
To
Get
As
Perfect
As
I
Can
So
I
Would
Have
Felt
If
I
Would
Have
Gone
Up
There
And
Given
The
Present
Anyway
But
I
Wouldn't
Have
Felt
As
Comfortable
You
Know
For
It
Would
Have
Been
Minor
And
It
Would
Have
Just
Been
Tacky
Looking
But
The
Content
Would
Have
Been
Fine
I
Just
Would
Have
Felt
Bad
Because
Well
It's
Tacky
It
Was
Pretty
Good
Presentation
It
Was
Good
Well
Thank
You
And
I
Want
Somebody
Here's
My
Request
For
This
Show
I
Want
Somebody
Who
Watched
Or
Saw
My
Presentation
To
Email
Me
And
Give
Me
An
Honest
Represent
Because
Zero
DB
Is
Saying
That
You
Know
I
Know
I
Know
I
Know
I
Know
I
Need
Somebody
I
Mean
The
Video
That
Was
Kind
Of
I
Don't
Really
Sit
Through
A
Whole
Bunch
Of
Presentation
But
That
Was
Kind
Of
Like
A
First
That
I
Ever
Seen
That
Type
Of
Presentation
With
The
Little
Video
And
All
That
You
Know
Yeah
I
Try
Not
To
Do
Too
Much
Of
It
But
I
Had
To
Do
Some
So
It
Went
Over
Well
I
Think
I
Mean
You
Didn't
Have
A
Lot
Of
People
Just
Getting
Up
And
Walking
Out
Like
In
Some
Presentations
I
Seen
A
Lot
Of
People
Get
Up
And
Walk
Out
Before
You
Know
It
I
Think
There
Are
Maybe
25
People
Left
In
The
Presentation
But
Pretty
Much
In
Your
Presentation
Everybody
Pretty
Much
Stayed
And
I
Thought
The
Video
Spoke
For
Self
Was
Kind
Of
A
Live
Thing
And
It
Kind
Of
Kept
People
In
Their
Seats
So
It
Was
Good
I
Do
Think
That
The
Video
Was
Better
Than
The
Original
Which
Was
A
Bunch
Of
Screenshots
I
Don't
Think
It
Was
A
Step
Up
From
That
But
At
The
Same
Time
I
Warned
People
Up
Front
It
Was
Very
Dry
Technical
Material
Kind
Of
Boring
To
Some
People
So
I
But
I
Really
If
Somebody
Saw
It
Please
Write
In
And
Give
Me
An
Impartial
Verdict
Or
Summary
Of
What
You
Thought
Of
It
Did
You
Like
It
You
Didn't
Like
It
Was
I
Funny
Was
I
Not
Funny
Was
It
Boring
You
Tell
Me
What
Worked
And
Didn't
Because
I
Want
To
Know
Because
Should
I
Try
To
Do
Something
Like
This
Again
With
This
Did
The
Work
Do
You
There
Then
Like
The
Day
After
My
Presentation
Or
A
Couple
Days
After
On
This
Website
Midrange
Server
Dot
Com
They
Put
A
Review
Of
My
Presentation
Up
It
Wasn't
So
Much
It
Was
It
Was
A
Traditional
Review
Where
It
Was
Like
A
Summary
Of
What
My
Presentation
Was
About
It
Wasn't
Really
So
Much
A
Review
Of
How
Well
It
Was
So
Much
As
It
Was
A
Review
Of
That
Was
Really
A
Strange
Feeling
To
See
It
And
Of
Course
Referred
To
Myself
As
Stank
Dog
And
The
Third
Person
They
Described
It
The
Person
Revealed
Himself
Only
As
Stank
Dog
And
It
Was
Like
The
Way
That
Was
Worded
I
Like
What
Am I
Batman
Or
Something
What
The
Hell
Is
This
You
Know
You
Know
No
That
Silly
Don't
So
It
Was
Just
Funny
To
See
Myself
Referred
To
That
Way
And
Overall
Though
They
Said
It
Was
Pretty
Good
And
The
Coolest
Thing
About
That
Article
Was
That
It
Is
In
A
Mid
Range
Fairly
High
Traffic
Mid
Range
Computing
Site
And
A
Lot
Of
People
You
Know
On
Slash
Dot
Some
People
Had
Mentioned
They
Were
Shocked
And
Looking
Forward
To
The
AS
400
Present
Because
It
Has
Never
Been
Talked
About
Or
Done
Before
And
This
Article
Appearing
And
Some
Of
The
Angle
That
The
Person
Wrote
It
And
Some
Replies
And
Stuff
That
People
Have
Made
On
The
Site
Basically
I
Mean
I
Don't
Want
To
Say
Fear
But
They
Were
Basically
I'll
Use
Lucky's
Version
Of
The
Word
Fear
With
The
Threes
Fearing
They
Were
Fearing
Hackers
Learning
About
Their
System
And
That's
Really
You
Know
I
Wanted
To
Teach
People
About
The
AS
400
It
Is
A
Very
Cool
System
And
They
Were
Fearing
A
Little
Bit
That
We
Are
Starting
To
Learn
About
Their
Obscure
System
And
That's
Why
I
Titled
It
Lifting
The
Veil
Of
Obscurity
They
Can't
Live
Through
This
Security
Through
Obscurity
We
Are
Going
To
Learn
About
It
We're
Going
To
Find
Out
About
It
And
The
Time
Has
Come
So
They
Are
Concerned
And
They
Are
Aware
Of
It
And
They
Knew
And
Saw
This
Presentation
Before
I
Sent
It
They
Knew
It
Was
Coming
And
They
Reviewed
It
Immediately
So
I'm
Very
Happy
I
Think
That's
Very
Cool
And
I
Want
People
To
Learn
About
It
So
I
Hope
That
Steps
Up
Everybody's
Game
Hope
It
Steps
Up
Their
Security
I
Hope
It
Steps
Up
Sys
Admins
To
Secure
And
Lock
Down
Their
Systems
And
I
Hope
It
Causes
Hackers
And
Anybody
To
Go
Out
And
Experiment
And
Learn
About
These
Systems
And
How
Do
They
Work
So
I
Think
It's
A win
Win
Situation
For
Everybody
I
Think
You
20
People
Come
Up
After
The
Presentation
So
Many
I
Couldn't
Yeah
It
Was
A
Big
And
I
Apologize
I
Hope
I
Didn't
Snub
Anybody
But
They
Wanted
Me
That
Was
At
Five
O'Clock
On
Saturday
If
I
Remember
Correctly
We
Also
Had
One
At
Was
It
Nine
O'Clock
Saturday
The
Hacker
Radio
Presentation
The
Hacker
Radio
Was
At
Actually
Yeah
Nine
O'Clock
On
Saturday
Nine
O'Clock
On
Saturday
So
Once
I
Got
My
Main
Presentation
Over
With
That
Was
A
Huge
Load
Off
So
Basically
Friday
And
Saturday
I
Really
Spent
My
Time
Working
On
The
Passed
This
And
Virgil
Those
Guys
Were
Pretty
Cool
But
I
Didn't
Get
To
See
Some
Of
The
Other
Sons
I
Wanted
To
After
I
Got
Past
Mine
Slip
Mode's
Presentation
At
Nine
O'Clock
On
Hacker
Radio
And
Slip
Mode
Did
A
Great
Job
Like
I
Said
He
And
I
Worked
On
Those
Our
Respected
Presentations
That
Night
Before
So
He
Was
All
Ready
He
Had
His
Presentation
Up
Dual
Parallel
And
Myself
Sat
Up
On
The
Board
For
That
And
We
Both
Spoke
At
The
Microphone
A
Few
Minutes
About
Our
Respective
Shows
Obviously
His
Radio
Freak
America
And
Binary
Revolution
Radio
And
Talked
About
Some
Of
Our
Philosophies
And
Ideas
And
What
We're
Doing
With
The
Show
And
Some
General
Stuff
And
Slip
Mode
Had
A
Great
Presentation
Took
Some
Questions
At
The
End
And
There
Seemed
To
Be
Some
Pretty
Good
Interest
In
That
So
People
Came
Up
After
The
Show
From
That
You
Know
Hopefully
And
Seemingly
Motivated
I
Did
Get
An
Email
Just
Before
We
Started
The
Show
Here
I
Just
Checked
My
Mail
I
Got
An
Email
From
Someone
From
That
Session
Saying
That
They
Had
Gone
Forth
Since
The
Since
The
Presentation
And
Started
Putting
Together
The
Hardware
To
Put
On
Their
Own
Hacking
Radio
Show
So
Once
We
Get
DDP
Hack
Radio
Up
Which
Is
Back
On
I'm
Not
Going
To
Go
To
Much
Detail
On
This
Show
But
Next
Week
We'll
Probably
Talk
About
Some
Is
Coming
Now
That
Becomes
My
Number
One
Priority
Now
That
I'm
Past
The
Presentation
Now
That
I'm
Past
Some
Of
The
Stuff
That
I
Wanted
To
Get
Done
This
Be
Number
One
And
Myself
And
More
Importantly
Some
Help
Has
Come
Through
To
Get
This
Up
And
Running
Again
Hopefully
Soon
But
I'm
Not
Going
To
Spill
The
Beans
Until
We
Get
It
All
Ready
But
This
Actually
Will
Be
Streaming
On
DDP
Hack
Radio
This
Week
And
Hopefully
By
The
End
Of
The
Month
We'll
Have
A
Lot
Of
Other
Functionality
Built
in
But
Again
I
Don't
Want
To
Jinx
Actually
The
Damn
Network
Was
Down
Most
Of
The
Time
Yeah
I
Heard
A
Lot
Of
People
Say
That
Yeah
It
Was
Well
The
First
Day
It
Was
Cool
Was
Able
To
Get
On
Surf
No
Big
Deal
Later
On
When
More
And
More
People
Started
You
Know
After
They
Registered
And
Started
Coming
Up
It
Began
To
Get
Crappy
Quick
I
Mean
It
Was
I
Think
Within
The
First
Let
See
Four
Hours
Of
The
Con
The
Damn
Thing
Went
Down
And
Then
You
Know
It
Was
Down
For
Like
Hours
Then
It
Was
Like
Up
And
Down
Up
And
You
Know
I
Was
Sitting
In
Let
Me
See
Where
Were
We
Sitting
I
Think
We
Were
Sitting
In
The
Live
Off
The
Wall
Off
The
Hook
Off
The
Off
The
Wall
Off
The
Wall
Is
The
Show
Yeah
But
They
Did
A
Live
Show
Off
The
Hook
And
I'm
Not
Sure
It
Was
Off
The
Hook
Or
Another
Presentation
There
I
Think
It
Was
Kind
Of
Like
In
The
Middle
Of
Both
But
Anyway
I
Was
You
Just
Sitting
Off
On
The
Side
You
Sniffing
Packets
And
Browsing
As
I
Could
And
A
Guy
Behind
Me
Sitting
Behind
I
Guess
He
Was
With
The
Network
Operations
Cause
I
Just
Happened
To
Mention
Man
Why
Is
The
Network
Going
Up
And
Down
So
He
Turned
To
And
Said
Somebody
Is
Trying
To
Attacking
The
Network
So
At
First
I
Didn't
Take
Them
For
Anything
I
Said
Well
Whatever
I
Guess
But
Then
You
Know
Those
Armbands
That
Everyone
Had
The
Prison
The
Individuals
That
Were
Doing
Presentations
Had
Gray
I
Think
The
Knock
Had
Like
This
Orange
Pinkish
Yeah
I
Haven't
Had
An
Orange
One
You
Know
People
That
You
Know
I
Guess
The
Staff
And
The
Part
That
Be
Had
The
Orange
Orm
Bands
And
Everybody
Else
Had
Black
Yeah
Well
At
The
Con
Some
Of
The
People
Those
Damn
Arm
Bands
Kept
Falling
Off
For
Whatever
Reason
Maybe
Our
Arms
Are
Built
Right
I
Don't
Have
Enough
Muscle
To
Hold
It
Up
I
Guess
And
The
Shit
Wouldn't
Stay
Dead On
The
First
Day
Yeah
So
But
Anyhow
I
Happened
Getting
Back
To
The
To
The
Wi-Fi
Thing
I
Happened
To
Turn
Around
And
Look
At
His
Ankle
And
I
Saw
He
Had
One
Of
The
Orange
Armbands
Around
His
Ankle
So
I
Oh
Okay
He
Must
Be
One
Of
The
Undercover
Knock
Guys
That
You
Know
Monitor
The
Network
So
Apparently
He
Knew
What
He
Was
Talking
About
So
He
Had
Some
Sort
Of
Fancy
Dancy
Something
On
The
Screen
With
Arrows
Pointing
To
Different
IP
Addresses
I
Don't
Know
What
Kind
Of
Shit
He
Had
There
But
It
Looked
Pretty
Impressive
And
Yeah
You
Know
So
After
That
I
Figured
Okay
Well
Yeah
Apparently
That
Sounds
About
Right
I
Mean
After
All
There
Is
A
Hacker
Convention
So
But
The
Network
Was
Up
And
Down
It
Was
Back
Up
And
Up
And
You
Couldn't
Hardly
Get
Anything
Done
But
I
Guess
More
People
Were
Sniffing
Packets
And
Looking
To
See
And
Browsing
Everybody
Else's
PC
Or
Trying
To
Right
But
Other
Than
That
You
Know
It
Another
Reason
I
Stayed
Unplugged
The
Whole
Week
Yeah
But
The
Terminals
Were
Up
Though
They
Really
Went
Down
Could
Pretty
Much
Do
It
But
They
Were
Slow
I
Think
They
Were
Like
486
With
12
Mega
Ram
Or
Something
Yeah
I
Think
They
Had
A
Hodge
Podge
Of
Lots
Of
Old
Machines
For
That
A
Lot
Of
Old
Machines
But
They
Were
Just
Clustered
Off
Of
Things
Some
Were
Ethernet
And
Some
Were
Token
Ring
And
Being
Fed
From
Another
Server
A
Server
That
Was
Running
BSD
And
But
All
It
Was
Pretty
Good
I
Saw
A
Lot
Of
New
Things
A
Lot
Of
Different
Things
Met
A
Lot
Of
People
Yeah
And
Actually
That's
Probably
A
Good
Segway
Because
We're
Running
Long
Here
And
We
Still
Got
A
Lot
Of
Shouts
I
Think
We're
Both
Going
To
Have
To
Do
Here
At
The
End
So
We
Should
Probably
Wrap it
Up
This
Is
Definitely
Going to
Have
To be
A
Two
Part
Yeah
We're
Going to
Have
To
Continue
This
Next
Week
Or
Something
Because
We
Still
I
Wanted
To
Go
Through
Some
Of
The
Presentations
That
We
Saw
And
Talk
About
Them
But
We're
Going
To
Push
It
Off
Because
We're
At
A
Minute
Fif
Or
Excuse
Me
An
Hour
And
Fifteen
Now
Or
Somewhere
Yeah
Hour
Thirteen
So
We
Got
To
Wrap up
Here
To
Be
Continued
Yeah
Definitely
Because
We still
Got
A lot
More
Stuff
To
Talk
About
You
Know
We
Got
The
White
Castle
Stories
To
Talk
Oh
Yeah
We're
Not
Even
Half
Done
Oh
No
We
Got
A
Long
In
The
Bin
Rev
Forums
I
Mentioned
Earlier
That
We
Recorded
RFA
Episode
76
At
The
Conference
As
Well
After
Slip
Modes
Hacker
Radio
Presentation
As
A
Kind
Of
A
Special
Surprise
We
Filmed
Or
Excuse
Me
We
Recorded
RFA
Episode
76
Down
In
Level
Two
On
The
Second
Floor
Area
We
Sat
Down
With
Microphones
And
In
Theory
Brought
And
Some
Equipment
And
Stuff
Had
A
Bunch
Episode
76
With
Captain
Crunch
As
A
Special
Guest
Telling
Some
Of
His
Stories
And
Everybody
Talking
On
The
Show
A
Little
Bit
So
And
We
Did
It
In
Front
Of
A
Live
Audience
So
That
Was
Really
Cool
There
Must
Have
Been
Gosh
Upwards
Of
50
People
There
At
Any
Given
Some
Points
In
The
Show
I
Think
Is
That
Yeah
It
Got
Pretty
Granted
Around
There
Yeah
It
Was
Pretty
Good
And
Really
Fun
It
Was
Very
Fun
So
Anyway
I
Say
That
Because
Well
A
To
Point
Out
It
Was
Really
Cool
And
B
One
Of
The
One
Of
The
Prizes
That
We
Gave
Out
Was
An
Autographed
Copy
Of
Kevin
Mitnick
Book
That
Was
Signed
By
Kevin
Mitnick
And
It
The
Art
Of
Deception
Yeah
I'm
Sorry
Yeah
Kevin
Mitnick
Older
His
New
One
Hasn't
Come Out
Yet
Anyway
Hasn't
I don't
Think
Yeah
The
Art
Of
Deception
It
Was
Signed
By
Kevin
Mitnick
By
Steve
Wozniak
Woz
Signed
It
And
Captain
Crunch
John
Draper
Signed
By
Three
Well
I guess
Say
Legendary
Hackers
If
There
Is
Such
A
Thing
Or
Well
Known
You
Know
Big
Name
Hackers
So
All
Three
Of
Them
Signed
It
This
Is
An
Absolute
One
Of
A
Kind
Item
I
Visually
Know
For
A
Fact
That
These
Are
Legit
I
Know
These
Are
You
Know
This
Is
A
One
Of
A
Kind
Item
A
Scene
I
Know
These
People
Signed
It
No
One
Else
And
The
Person
Who
Won
That
On
Trivia
At
The
Show
Was
At
The
Taping
Was
Code
Monkey
Well
He
Already
Had
The
Book
He
Had
Already
Bought
The
Book
Himself
Anyway
He
Had
A
Copy
So
He
Decided
That
He
Would
Put
That
Book
Up
On
Ebay
And
Auction
It
Off
And
Give
The
Proceeds
To
The
EFF
The
Electronic
Frontier
Foundation
Which
We
Can't
Say
Enough
About
Is
A
Great
Organization
That's
Fighting
For
Our
Rights
And
Our
Freedoms
That
Are
Being
Taking
Away
And
Defending
People
That
Are
Being
You
Know
It's
Not
Just
About
Defending
Hackers
It's
Not
You
Away
And
These
Are
People
That
Are
Defending
Our
Rights
When
They're
Being
Infringed
Upon
So
It's
A
Very
Admirable
Organization
So
That
Is
Up
On
Ebay
I'm
Sure
If
You
Search
For
It
I
Will
Try
To
Put
The
I
Think
It's
Going
To
Be
Up
For
Six
Or
Five
Or
Six
More
Days
Four
Or
Five
More
Days
So
After
You've
Heard
This
It
Will
Still
Be
Up
FL2600
Oh
That's
Right
I
Did
Put
That
Link
On
FL2600
Dot
Com
You
Can
Get
To
It
From
There
Again
You
Can
Also
Find
It
In
The
Bin
Ref
Forum
Sometimes
It's
Tough
To
Find
It
There
Probably
If
You
Just
Go
On
To
Ebay
And
Search
For
Mitnick
Or
You
Know
Something
Like
That
You'll
Probably
Find
It
But
Definitely
If
You're
Interested
In
That
That's
Great
Thing
To
Work
In
Great
Collectible
To
Have
And
You
Know
You're
Supporting
A
Great
Cause
So
Check
That
Out
Please
And
A
Lot
Of
Shout
Outs
I
Guess
I'll
Just
Start
And
You
Can
Chime
In
If
You
Want
To
Interrupt
Somebody
Or
Interject
Somebody
Or
Something
Like
That
Or
Second
Or
Whatever
Boy
This
May
Take
A
While
First
Of
All
But
Really
There
Were
So
Many
Cool
People
Here
That
I
Couldn't
Even
List
Them
All
If
I
Wanted
To
I'm
Sure
I
Overlooked
Somebody
Here
But
I'm
Going
To
Try
To
Get
Everybody
Here
First
Of
Slip
Mode
Like
I said
He
And
I
Stayed
Up
Just
All
Night
Working
On
Those
Presentations
And
Then
Not
Only
That
One
Night
But
We
Went
Out
To
The
Bars
We
Went
Out
Did
A
Bunch
Of
Other
Stuff
The
Other
Nights
Too
But
Definitely
Shoutouts
To
Him
He
Does
The
Best
But
Head
Impression
I've
Ever
Heard
I
Can
Do
Beavis
But
I
Can't
Do
The
But
Head
So
He
And
I
Were
Doing
Beavis
And
But
Head
All
Night
It
Was
Just
Hilarious
I
Was
In
Tears
Laughing
That
Was
Great
And
Singing
Badger
And
Slinging
Singing
Bananaphone
And
Stuff
Like
That
Was
A
Blast
Shouts
To
DJ
Sub
Zero
Pimping
The
Magazine
Out
At
Our
At
Our
Vendor's
Booth
We
Were
Sharing
A
Booth
With
The
Guys
From
Port
Seven
Alliance
And
For
Hanging
Out
With
Me
At
White
Castle
I
Was
Obsessed
With
White
Castle
While
I
Was
Up
There
Hadn't
Eat
White
Castle
In
Probably
At
Least
Seven
Or
Eight
Years
So
When
I
Found
There
Was
A
White
House
A
Couple
Blocks
Well
Not
More
Than
A
Couple
It
Little
Bit
I
Wish
We
Could
Have
Done
More
I
Just
Got
Pulled
In
So
Many
Different
Directions
And
Sometimes
I
Turn
Around
And
I
Couldn't
Find
Him
Or
Couldn't
Catch
Up
To
Him
I
Wish
We
Had
Been
Able
To
Spend
More
Time
But
He's
Just
Awesome
We've
Said
That
So
Many
Times
Let's
See
I
Mentioned
Earlier
John
Erickson
I
Think
You
Can
Back
Me
On
That
One
Again
John
Erickson
Can't
Say
Enough
About
Him
Very
Bright
I
Mean
Down
The
Earth
He
You
Can't
I
Mean
You
Just
Had
To
Be
There
Yeah
He
Was
A
Good
Guy
He
Even
Did
A
Presentation
On
I
Think
What
Was
It
Introduction
To
Assembly
Or
Something
Like
Yeah
I
Think
It
Was
On
Assembly
Which
Is
One
Of
The
On
I
Really
Wanted
To
See
And
Unfortunately
Didn't
Make
I
Guess
I
Have
To
Wait
Till
They
Release
The
Videos
On
Them
And
Watch
It
I
Think
He
Did
Mention
That
I
Don't
Know
If
We're
Supposed
To
Say
Anything
About
That
Yet
But
I
Guess
And
You
Know
Not
Only
Were
We
Reading
I
Said
We
Reading
It
In
A
Plane
On
The
Way
Back
You
And
I
Both
Late
At
Night
When
We
Were
I
Can
And
I
Been
Reading
It
Just
About
Every
Day
Since
Then
I
Didn't
Take
It
To
Work
With
Me
Of
Course
But
I
Read
A
Little
Bit
Each
Day
So
Definitely
Cool
Acidus
Virgil
All
The
Guys
From
The
Dirty
South
Represent
Southeast
2600
Group
Very
Cool
Very
Cool
Acidus
Went
Hung
out with us down in Chinatown.
Hey, I don't think I told you this yet, or maybe I did.
They put a quote on MemeStreams, which is a site by one of the guys around.
Go check out memestreams.net, M-E-M-E-S-T-R-E-A-M-S dot net.
And somebody put like a, I don't know if it was a top ten list or just funny quotes from
the conference.
Did I send you that link?
No, I'm pulling it up right now.
Okay.
Somebody put up like a list of funny quotes that people said from the conference of where
we were hanging out, and one of them was from me, and I don't know if I told you this list,
but you might laugh at this, but one of the funny quotes on there was attributed to me,
and it was from our trip down to Chinatown, because I lost you for a second.
You remember what I said, right?
How do you lose a black guy in a Chinatown?
Yeah, how do you lose a black man in Chinatown?
So that made me laugh that they put that on their list.
They found that funny, and it was pretty funny, actually.
I turned my back for a second.
I turned to, they were like, I don't know what they were doing, chopping the heads off
of chickens or something caught my attention, and I turned around and you were gone, and
I didn't know what to do.
You mean that little, that seafood frickin' flea market or whatever the hell, where
they were selling all the crabs and stuff?
Yeah, yeah, that was, and the lady was picking out which one she wanted.
She's like, no, I want that fat fish over there.
She was picking which one she wanted to eat.
That was funny.
Yeah.
Let's see.
I just couldn't bear the smell, man.
Yeah, I know.
I couldn't stay there too long either.
I got some pictures and I left.
Big, huge, huge shots to Epiphany and Johnny Lightning.
Oh, yeah.
Two guys.
Yeah, those guys, you know, we were, they were dragging us, the noobs, around New York City.
We were noobs, didn't know where we were going.
That first day, we didn't know, I didn't think I'd ever figure out that subway system.
When they took us to the Yankees game, I'm like, I'll never figure this out, but by the
end, we had that down pretty good.
I was, yeah, yeah, A, E, and one, two, what is it, one, two, three, and nine?
Oh, all I know is the E is our best friend.
Yes.
The ace line, I called it.
The A-C-E, they all ran on that same track, the ace line.
And what?
The V will take you to ground zero?
No, the V goes east-west, I think.
No, no, I'm sorry, no, I think you're right.
Yeah, it goes down there, and then I think the F goes down to...
Two, three, nine, anyway.
The other place down there.
Yeah.
It didn't go to go too late.
We still had to consult the map occasionally.
Yeah.
But, yeah, huge, seriously, Johnny Lightning met us with a couple times, and we went to
Central Park, you know, took us to some other cool places, sightseeing, yeah, really tour
guys, him and Epiphany both, but, and Johnny Lightning took us to some urban exploration,
which we've got on film, we'll, we'll work that, edit that in, and probably get that into
Hack TV, some really cool sights, including the roof of the Hotel Pennsylvania at one point.
That was some fun stuff.
What?
No, no, no, no, did I say that?
Whoops.
Shouts to Kevin Mitnick and Darcy.
I met up with them a couple different times, actually.
They were both very nice.
Yeah, they were okay.
I didn't really expect them to not be nice, but they were nice, they were very approachable.
I talked to them for a few minutes here and there, and, you know, they seemed, they were
very cool.
I had, you know, no problems with them at all.
Even Emmanuel.
I met up with Emmanuel two different times, and he was nice as he could be.
I told him, you know, he's doing a good job.
He's obviously very hectic with all the stuff going on.
Yep.
And I, you, I hope you can definitely back me up on this one.
The biggest shouts of all were definitely to NotTheory.
NotTheory is a very good guy.
Yeah, I mean, he was just...
I mean, you're working, you're, I mean, the guy even, he missed the train, he's been
in the night, and he's got to get up, I think he must have left like 4.30 in the morning
at one time.
Yeah.
Just to get, you know, he's, you know, he's a really good guy.
Takes us to, you know, picks us up and takes us back and, you know.
Yeah, back in Port Airport.
Thanks a lot.
Yeah, that really was.
Sincere thanks for that, man.
That was fantastic of you, way above and beyond the call of duty, and it's truly appreciated.
It really was.
Oh, you come down to Florida, you know.
We'll take him, we'll take him down to the clubs, down to the strip.
Yeah, we'll go hang out, South Beach or something.
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
And, yeah, I think that's it.
And one other person, you know, there was one guy that, again, this was somebody that
I just didn't spend a whole lot of time with because I got pulled in.
Well, actually, we spent quite a bit of time.
I didn't talk to as much as I wanted, is what I should say, because I got pulled here
and there, but I guess I'm going to give him the nice guy award.
Like, this guy was a good, Southern, polite, manners, just absolute nice guy, and that was
Cessna.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just a genuine, genuine, nice human being.
Just a nice, genuine, real human being, and that was very cool.
So, big shouts out to him.
I think that is it.
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Our closing music this week, actually, I got from the conference, they were playing music
in between the presentations, and one of the songs they were playing is from a group called
Delirium, and it's called After All.
It's a free download from their website.
Go check them out.
And, again, they were playing that along with some other songs between presentations.
I like this one.
So, we're going to close with that.
So, shout-outs also to you, my friend.
We spent a long week together through the rain, through the lack of sleep.
Yeah.
A lot of stuff going on, so.
Yeah, we'll talk a bit more about that in another episode.
Yeah, we'll continue.
We'll have to have a part two to this, and definitely a lot more.
There's definitely a lot more.
Oh, yeah.
But, until the second part comes along, we will have to see everybody next week.
Same Hack Time.
Same Hack Channel.
She knows the voices in her mind.
They tell her, until you, she's tired smiling madly, until silence becomes very silently.
The noise in her mouth.
After all, she's in the biggest size.
No good to give, no meaning in the name.
The missing goal tonight.
Everything will stop.
No.
Thirdly changing.
After all, she's acts.
And there's no not.
I'm sorry.
Oh.
Yey.
Crying at the original
She knows the noises in her mind
Her face is mad
But she screams sadly
And if she knows she feels no necessary
The feeling of young
She does not die
My face should be a dark glow star
It's time to wear to fall
After all these shades
Could you send me say no?
After all these shades
Could you wear my heart in love?
The feeling of young
That she wouldn't cry
Than was responded
The feeling of
The feeling of young
After all these shades
Did you not knock
The feeling of young
The looking of young
To me
The feeling of young
Thank you.