This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a Nero
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dream packs
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
At NASDAQ, leave your pride on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Cereal codes, source codes, ISO, RAM, SIP, SIS
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Microsoft is spending more and more money these days on security
And with good reason, the world's biggest computer company has suffered a string of attacks from hackers
The company knows that its systems became vulnerable, its profits plummet
So let's meet Microsoft's enemy
Our North American business correspondent Steve Evans has been talking to the hackers
Deep in the recesses of cyberspace, a great intellectual battle is underway
Microsoft versus hackers bent on breaching its computer system
It's a very high stakes chess game that even threatens Microsoft's future
Hackers like Porkchop, as he's known, say it's about finding defects to alert the company before others wreak havoc
We're the type of people who find those problems in the first place
We let Microsoft know before we tell anybody else
You're presenting it as though you're generous to Microsoft
That you're helping Microsoft by finding the gaps in their system
Microsoft, I suspect, would say that you're trying to bring them down, maybe destroy them
We don't actually tell people how to damage it until Microsoft has had a very generous amount of time to fix the problems
It's been months between the discovery of a bug and the release of the bug to the public
Whatever Microsoft doesn't pay attention to
At a gathering of hackers in New York run by hackers on planet Earth, H-O-P-E, HOPE
There's a star turn
Kevin Mitnick was jailed for hacking into company and government computers just for the thrill
I guess we could all sum it up, that it was sheer entertainment
Once I was able to get control of the system
It gave me a feeling of accomplishment
It was kind of like picking a lock
Not because you want to get to the other side to steal anything or to cause any harm
But just the thrill of being able to pick it
And what did you get into?
A lot of different fund companies, Motorola, Fujitsu, NEC, Sun Microsystems, IBM
The other thing you got into was jail
That's true
I ended up serving about five years in custody
I was the government poster boy
I was like held in solitary confinement because a prosecutor had told a judge that I could start an nuclear war by whistling into a telephone
Was it true? Could you have started a nuclear war?
Of course not
There are noises that are used by hackers for far less dangerous, though still illegal reasons
Rich the Rebel is a phone freak
Someone who breaches phone systems
When you make a phone call
You put a quarter into a phone and it makes a sound
And that tells a phone company that you've put in a quarter
And the sound sounds like this
The automated system will hear that
And they'll think that a quarter is being put into the phone
Isn't that theft?
Yeah, I guess it is
For many hackers, it's a naive game
They seem to have odd personalities, almost childlike
Bernadette Schell of the University of Ontario has studied hundreds of them
Many hackers come from broken families, she found
And lack trust in others
There seemed to be a history in early childhood of interpersonal difficulty
And that had a long-term impact on how they were feeling about others in terms of relationship
Essentially what they did was they escaped creatively into the computer
So that's where they found solace
And they continued into adulthood to communicate with others through the net rather than through face-to-face
A small minority would be dangerous
But the vast majority would be of extreme positive use to businesses and to society
Particularly as they were approaching age 30
Which is fine, but how should we treat hackers before they reach that age of useful maturity?
Don't answer that
Steve Evans reporting from New York
Welcome to Binary Revolution Radio, episode 65
Coming to you on October 5, 2004
I am Stank Dog
Representing the Digital Dog Pound
Reporting from Parts Unknown
And also representing the Digital Dog Pound with me this evening
Is a blast from the past
A voice you have heard
Many times in the past
Been kind of taking care of bidness lately, have you?
Just a little
Voodoo Howl
One of our esteemed members of DDP
Back in action
And looking very forward to doing the show tonight
I am, that is
Doing the show with you
I don't look forward to any of the other shows
I only look forward to doing this show with you tonight
I bet you say that to all the guys
Oh, well
Yeah, well, you know
What can I say? I'm easy
Hey, I didn't mention this before the show
But I forgot about this
Oh, great
The first time I was ever in
My first show that I was ever on during season one
Involved a beautiful story
Maybe it was the second
Anyway, all I've got to say is Deadly Halon
What was that Deadly Halon?
You broke up on me there
Deadly Halon
Deadly Halon, yeah
That was also on the anniversary episode
I guess that's the most famous story
We ever had on the show
Classic episode there
I thought I'd bring it up since this is my first season two appearance
Is it really?
Yeah, I guess it is
It's been
Hmm, man
Kind of temporarily unplugged there, didn't you?
Yeah
Had to take care of some
Permanently unplugged
And just managed to find my way back
Well, we're glad to have you back
Why don't we do some
Let's take care of some housekeeping
Let's
We'll get you right back in the flow of things
Because you did several
It's not like you're a noob to this or anything
You know, you did quite a few episodes of this
Let's see
We still got
We haven't changed a single bit since season one
So don't worry
I don't know if that's good or bad
We'll see
Yeah, I thought I was promised
Promised half-naked women for season two
What was up with that?
They never arrived?
Well, never saw them
You know what?
I tell you what
We'll make that happen at Freak Nick
How about that?
Alright, I'm game
There we go
Freak Nick, baby
Bring on the freaks
Okay, yeah
Let's do a little housekeeping here
Let's take care of a couple things
First of all
Quick little note
I screwed up some
At least one
I think a couple
Possibly previous episodes
Of the show
I think I fixed all the downloadable versions
But a couple of my streamed
Where I forgot to insert
The email theme music
Into the show
So
I fixed a couple of them
On the downloadable version
I missed one
That
Shout out to everybody in IRC
Some people in IRC
Checked them for me
And I appreciate that
I went through and redid
The episodes that were messed up
So
Go check out
Radio.binrev.com
These would have been
Pretty recent
I think 63
Was really the only one
That needed to be redone
This time
Like I said
I caught the other ones myself
Before I uploaded them
So I think 63
Is really the only one
Unless
You really like to hear me
You know
Singing and mumbling
Or whatever it is
That I was doing
When I announced the theme music
I kind of just kind of
Do a little filler there
Because I usually edit it
Afterwards
And put the theme in
By the way
I don't know about
Editing this one
Because we're actually
Recording on Tuesday
November the 5th
So this is not a show
That was recorded
A day or two days before
We are actually
Coming to you on Tuesday
I can say that
As a matter of fact
What else do we have here
I also have
Old School Freak
Back up as well
Things are coming back
I love it when a plan
Comes together
Name that
Name that TV show
Now that was
From your generation
Don't give me any
Old man jokes here
I was going to go
With Bonanza
But hell
I have no idea
That was the A-Team
Man
That wasn't during my age
Oh
Watching Sesame Street
When the A-Team
Was on
Oh god
Maybe I am old
Oh my god
Oh I don't want to
Do the show anymore
I don't want to
Live anymore
Thank you for
Bringing me down
Holy crap
I'm old
Man
Well
Anyway
Old references aside
I know some
Some of my dogs
Out there
Will get that reference
I know I'm not
The only one
That remembers the A-Team
You don't remember
Mr. T?
I remember him
With his bling bling
Oh
The king of bling
He made bling famous
He was the original blinger
Oh
Anyway
What was I saying
Oh
It's late
What can I tell you
Old school freak
The site is back up
We announced that before
We will be updating it soon
Okay
We
We put it back up
We made a couple
Changes to it right away
Cleared up a couple things
And
We lost some things
Like email addresses
Email forwarders
And things like that
Unfortunately
We're not going to be
Replacing those
In the short term future
I don't know
The long term future
Exactly
Of the email
But
The long term future
Of the site
Seems to be fine
So
We do have some updates
I have some T-files
To upload to that site
I have some photos
And things like that
So
Yeah
People that have sent in
Some stuff
I do have it
I just haven't gotten around
To updating it
And
Frankly
Actually
When I say I
I'm probably not going to be
The one updating
And maintaining that site
I just got it up and running
With permission of course
And
We're actually just kind of
Kicking around
How we're going to take care of it
How we're going to maintain it
And who's going to maintain it
And take that responsibility
Etc
So
Keep an eye out for that
But
It is back
Probably going to be
Some of the site's going to change
Some of the layout's going to change
A little bit
For the most part
It's going to look and feel the same
But we just might rotate a few
Of the files
Off to other more appropriate sites
Kind of clean up some things
And
Kind of basically re-emphasize
Technology
Privacy
And freedom
Which is what the site's always been about
And we're kind of
Really re-emphasize that a lot
With the site
So
We'll do some clean up
But again
Everything that's ever been on there
Is of course public domain
And that's something
Dool was always very
Very big on
You know
He wanted the community
To have this
Even if we just put it back up
And never touched it again
You know
It's out there
People are welcome to do with this stuff
What they want
We might just clean it up
For cosmetic purposes
And for ease of navigation
So
So feel free to have
And help yourself
To anything that's on there
As usual
Now
Let's play a little
E-mail theme music
Okay
First e-mail
Is from
X-Logic
Speaking of
Old school freak
This is a
Long time friend
Of not only
Binary Revolution Radio
But
RFA as well
Radio Freak America
So
He writes then
To say
Hey
I just launched
PHX2600.com
That's
PHX
Phoenix
PHX2600.com
And I put up
A video of me
With the glove
At a 2600 meeting
Along with other videos
Our last meeting
And I'm winning
The glove by the way
For people who don't
Remember
X-Logic had made
A stun glove
A shocking glove
A shock glove
And the video
Was up at
Again
PHX2600.com
Very cool
And we talked about
That on
On RFA
Quite a while back
And the
Kevin Rose incident
And we were not
Going to relive that one
You know how much
We all
Love that
Let's see
Where was I
I'm just butchering
The show tonight
Back into the email
He says
Our last meeting
Was very interesting
Since we had a special agent
From the FBI here
It was very informative
And that was
That was an invited guest
By the way
Don't read anything
Into that
They asked him to come
Before you freak out
It was very informative
He said that
The MPAA
And RIAA
Were zero priority
On their list
Nice to hear that
He also asked about
HPR
Being a listener
To RFA
And BinRev
On his spare time
For entertainment
I might add
It's just nice to think
That it's not completely
An us versus them thing
After all
The feds are people
Just like us
I would like to think
Well maybe not
Just like us
But I would like to think
That we all have
A common goal
Of making things better
For the common good
What I like about this
Is that we have real feds
Listening to real hackers
Also there was mention
In a few issues
Back of 2600
That the FBI
Here in Phoenix
Was doing a presentation
On cyber crime
And they addressed
2600 at the meeting
Well
Should I drop
I'm not sure
If I should drop the name
I don't think so
I'm gonna just
Skip it
Just to play safe
Even though
I guess it was
In the meeting
Yeah
Just to play safe
He mentions
The officer's name
And just to play safe
I'm not gonna mention it
Because I don't know
How he feels
But the fed
That was at
The meeting
Was one
That held that meeting
Referred to in 2600
Which is interesting
Okay
Oh and one more thing
Godel Escher Bach
By Douglas R. Hofstetter
Hofstetter
Is definitely
A worthy read
It is a big book though
One I would tend
To read slowly
I think it would
Blow your mind though
By the way
My avatar on Binrev
Is actually a picture
Of Godel
Just in case
Anybody was wondering
Okay
Thank you
Logic
X-Logic
X
We've recalled you
So many things
On the show
In the past
But logic
I think is the way
He likes to refer to it
I think it's really cool
That the feds show up
To me
You know
I've always been
And out in the open
My docs are out there
I don't hide
That kind of stuff
And I think
You feel the same way
About the doc situation
Right
I lost you there
What
I say there
Oh man
I was taking a drink
I say
You feel the same way
As I do
About
You know
I don't hide my docs
Very much
It's not such a big deal
To me
I don't really
You know
So the fact that
A fed would come
To my meeting
If you knew
That a fed was invited
To your local meeting
Would that stop you
From going
Would you not go
Because a fed's there
Not at all
I mean
I've met
A couple of Nipsey agents
And I thought
I mean
They were nice
Obviously
For reasons
That we won't discuss
They were there
But I mean
They were more than nice
I thought they were
Pretty cool people
Well
And the forensic guys
Were kind of scary
But that's another story
Yeah
See
You know what
My whole thing is
You know
It's a public meeting
Everybody's invited to attend
No exclusions
That includes the feds
If they want to come by
And listen
That's fine
Now
I guess
I think you know
Kevin Rowe should be banned
Though
Well yeah
Okay I'm sorry
One there's
You know
There's a couple exceptions
I guess I should
Take that back
Yeah let's
Great
Let's start a big feud
I'm kidding
I watch the screensavers
I'm a geek
Yeah
What's wrong with Kevin
And the Broken
Uh huh
Just a good target
I mean
Did you see
The Stripe Snoop episode
Recently
As a matter of fact
I'll give a little shout outs
Here
Early
Here to Acidus
On a recent episode
Of the screensavers
Kevin Rowe stole
I mean
I'm sorry
Presented
Gave a presentation
On Stripe Snoop
Which of course
We had asked us
On the show
To talk about
A cool project
He presented it
At the Hope Conference
That he had an article
On 2600
That he's been working on
For a long time
And it's very cool
That Kevin stole
I mean
I'm sorry
Made a presentation
On that
On the screensavers
And uh
You know
It was really
I'm sure it was just
Oversight
That he forgot to mention
Acidus' name
Anywhere
I'm sure that was
Pure accident
So you know what
Acidus
I'll mention your name
Big shouts out
From Stank Dog
For whatever that's worth
I know I'm not
Kevin Rose
Getting out there
To all the people
Watching G4
Tech TV
Whatever the hell
That thing is now
For me at least
I don't want to give a shout
But I do want to say
Thanks to Acidus
I thought it was a great
I probably just mutilated
His name
I think you
I think you actually
Kind of broke up there
Okay well then I can hide it
Yeah I pronounced it correctly
No I mean I thought
It was a great article
Because me
I'm a software person
Always have been
Me too
And I've got tons of stories
Of me trying to play
With hardware
And nearly blowing
Everything up
Because I had no idea
What I was doing
But I thought it was
A great article to read
Yeah I
In the same way
I'm a software guy
I would love to learn
More hardware stuff
So yeah I thought
It was very cool
And very well written
And yeah we've talked
About it in the past
So anyway
Let's see about the
Went off on a tangent
There on Kevin Rose
Thanks for drawing me
Out there
That's what we do
That's what we need
To make enemies
With a big media icon
Kevin Rose
Anyway let me get back
To the letter here
He mentioned in there
I guess it's kind of
A good point really
That he says
Feds are people too
To me that sounds
Like a t-shirt slogan
We should market
Shirts that says
Feds are people too
And sell them to feds
They probably
Probably make some money
I could make one
And wear it
To Freaknik for it
Oh there we go
Spot the fed
They don't have that
At Freaknik though do they
I don't know
No I don't think
They have that there
Yeah I would actually
I'm tempted to see
If I can contact
Some local agents
Down here to come
To a meeting
Got some other things
I'm working on
For some upcoming
Meetings as well
And now when we
Get down to the
To the show
And tell stuff
When we get down
To the hacking stories
The personal stories
I'll talk some more
About that stuff
But yeah
To me
It opens up a dialogue
And I think
That's what's really cool
You open up a dialogue
Between you
And the feds
And let them understand
You know
That we're not all
What they seem to think
We all are
For whatever that means
So I think that's
Kind of cool
So big props to them
And hey hopefully
He starts coming
Regularly
You know it's cool
That he came on an invite
As a guest or whatever
I think it would be cool
If he started coming
Regularly
The more you go
The more you're exposed
To it
The more he might
Actually get it
And realize
It's not
You know
Not so bad
You know
Yeah
Actually pretty darn good
Sometimes aren't we
We do good things
They do lots of good things
They don't
They um
The good things
Don't make the headlines
They don't
They don't put asses
In the seats
You know
They want to
They want to sell the fear
The bad things
Well think about it
How many paper newspapers
Do you see
Where somebody's been murdered
How many times
Does a birth
Make the front page
Well
Yeah
That's true
They put all the births
In a special section
In the back
Yeah
But no one ever
Gets that far
Yeah right
Except the people
That are involved
In the birth
You know
They
It's basically
Just dedicated for them
Because no one else
Really
You know
Knows them
Anyway
Um
So
Let's see
Where was I
Okay
Another email
From Kevin420
Kevin420 says
Hey
Who's the guy
In the intro song
Okay
I'm actually joking
But are you aware
Of the way it sounds
On episode 64
I downloaded it today
And the intro
Isn't the same
It's not the original version
You usually play
It's a choppy version
With weird editing
Anyways
I don't need to explain
Just re-listen
Um
Yes
You're absolutely correct
And
It was
Intentional
I just felt like
Using a different mix
That I'd made
I mixed
The other version
Myself too
Cut it down
To a nice
Minute or so intro
I just felt like
Using a different one
And I was curious
As if anybody
Would even notice
Anyway
Obviously somebody did
So
Good catch
Um
A lot of people
Jump into the stream
In the middle of the show
Anyway
And miss the opening theme
So
Um
And
I have another
Email here
From someone who
I'm not going to read
Their name
Because I'm not sure
But um
We'll just say
Real name withheld
Because we don't know
Who says
Dear Mr. Stank
I ran across your radio show
One day when I was at work
I worked for a school system
As
And was working by myself
Cloning a lab
I did a search somewhere
And found your show
Since then
I have been listening to the show
Have ordered all your magazines
And watched Hack TV
Very cool
I would like to thank you
In so many ways
I recently changed jobs
Which I have a 45 minute commute
In the northern Virginia traffic
The first week
I tried in vain
To find something
I would like to listen to
On the FM band
Well
Yeah you realize
That was futile
I'm sure you realize
That pretty quick
Unless you don't like
Boy bands
And
Slutty
Blonde chicks
Nothing wrong with NPR
Yeah
Uh
I then thought
Why not get episodes
Of BinRev Radio
And put them on a CD
And play them in my car
CD player
That does MP3s
One night I did that
And for the past week
I have been listening
To nothing else
But your radio show
I have learned a lot
And have been entertained greatly
While listening to a few
Old shows
I noticed you mentioned
Blacklisted 411 magazine
I remembered I had a few
Of their older magazines
From 1998
A few times over the past years
I would do a search for them
And found nothing
I visited their site
From a link on yours
And ordered a new subscription
And a few back issues
Tonight I dug up their old mags
And also found one called
Thud
The Hacker's Underground Digest
Which appears to be put out
By the same people
As Blacklisted 411
Have you ever seen this one
While driving to and from work
I thought about myself
And I've always been a hacker
Ever since I was a kid
I would play with things
And see how they worked
I remember getting in trouble
Because I took apart the phone
Oh yeah
Everybody's
That's the first sign right
Isn't that like the first sign
That you know
That you know you're a hacker
I had a radio scanner
When I was about 12
And I've listened to a lot of things
And even messed with McDonald's
University security
Mall security
Ran license plates
To the DMV
On a police frequency
With a modded 2M440
Amateur radio
Since then
I've gotten a good job
In computers
And made a pretty good life
I owe all of what I have
From curiosity
And learning on my own
On another note
I was listening to
The second edition
Craptacular
That's the telephonic
Craptacular of course
And was a little surprised
When you left in
The DTMF tones
When calling Bell South
To cancel your DSL
When I got home
I hooked up my
Universal M400 decoder
And played back the tones
I was hoping you were
Not that stupid
And really leave them in
I told my girlfriend
What I was doing
And said
If Stank left them in there
I'm going to call him
Keep up the good work
Alright
First of all
This is a great letter
By the way
This is a really good letter
Thanks
Thank you for the support
You know
Ordering the magazines
That is what allows us
To keep putting out
The radio show
Pay for the bandwidth
I should say
To put out the radio show
And the TV show
And maintain the sites
And all the other projects
And stuff we do
So thank you very much
For that
Thud
The Hackers Underground Digest
Yes I have heard of that
I have
One issue
Of Thud
It's the only one
I ever saw on the shelves
I think
They might have released
Three or four
I
Probably would have to
Contact Zachary
I might actually
Email and ask him
Some info about that
Maybe by the next show
If I can get in touch
With him
But yes
It is put out
Or was put out
By the same people
Do you remember
That one by the way
Not I
No
It was
You know
Blacklisted was the first one
And it was black and white
Back then
And I remember
Thud coming out
Being in color
And that was
I guess they both
Lasted about
A year
Longer than that
When Thud first came out
Like I said
There's two
Three
Maybe four episodes
At the most
And then I think
It disappeared
So
I guess that's when
They went through
Their troubles
And kind of
Disappeared temporarily
And obviously
They are back now
We've talked about
Them in the past
Blacklisted411.net
I believe
And yeah
They did put out
Thud back then
And I think
I remember
That they're going
To try to
Bring Thud
Back out again
At least they were
Saying they would
Like to
I don't know
What the reality is
I don't know
If the interest level
The success of
Blacklisted
Is probably going
To determine
You know
If they're going
To bring something
Like that back
So
Whether it actually
Happens
I don't know
Yeah
Taking apart the phone
That's the first sign
That you know
There's always those
Events that happen
In life
That you realize
That's what you were
Born to do
That's what you were
That's what you are
That's what you're
I mean
Take apart the phone
Take apart the VCR
You know
I took apart
The old VCRs
I could never
Put it back together
Don't get me wrong
Oh thank god
I thought I was
The only one
Who just said
I just wanted to see
How it went together
I couldn't actually
Get it back
How it went together
I couldn't put it
Back together myself
Like you said
I was a software guy
I've always been
A software guy
I've never been
That much on hardware
I tried to put it
Back together
Don't get me wrong
I'm like
Oh I bet if I
Just replace this
With that
And change this to that
I can make it work better
Oh it doesn't work
At all anymore
Oops
That's when the
Abundancy of duct tape
Because of living
In the south
Comes in handy
Oh yeah
And barbed wire
Oh anyway
What else
And also
There's a positive thing
I don't know
Let me go back
And reread this
Because I thought
This was a cool statement
Since then
I have gotten
A good job
In computers
And made
A pretty good life
I owe
All of what
I have
From curiosity
And learning
On my own
So there's hope
Every hacker
Out there
There's
And not hope
I mean
That's a case
That's an example
Right there
Hackers are
And can be
And will be
Successful
They all
Will be successful
There's never
Going to be
A true hacker
That's not successful
It's just
An innate
Ability
We have
To be good
At things
You know
So
That's a very
Positive message
Now
About the
DTMF
Tones
And the
Craptacular
I never
Got the phone
Call
And I'm sure
He knows
Why
Again
Back to
The docs
We were talking
About earlier
My docs
Are public
You know
They're very
Easy to find
I've said that
Before
I don't hide
From it
Blah blah blah
I wouldn't
Have dropped
Them quite so
Easily
By putting
Them in
The
Craptacular
But it's
Kind of
Cool that
You looked
For it
I hide
A lot
Of little
Games
And puzzles
And stuff
Like that
Into the
Show
Anytime you
Hear DTMF
Tones
Anytime you
Hear
Edits
Or
Stuff like
That
There's
Usually
Some
In joke
Or
There's
A
Reference
Or
There's
A
Hint
Or
Some
Kind
Of
Little
Game
On
The
Site
Scattered
In
Different
Places
There's
Still
hidden
Things
That
Not
Many
People
Have
Found
If
Any
Sometimes
People
Will
Find
Something
That
Even
I
Forgot
That
I
Put
Out
There
So
There's
Lots
Of
Hidden
Stuff
There's
Always
Something
Going
On
At
VINREV
Sometimes
More
Than
Others
Everybody
Unplugs
At
The
Same
Time
And
The
Wheels
Stop
Turning
But
You
Know
How
That
Goes
Now
Boy
We
Have
Got
A
Lot
Of
Emails
Let's
See
How
We're
Doing
Another
Email
We've
Got
One
More
Email
And
Then
We'll
Close
It
Up
From
Feeble
Says
I
Was
Recently
Browsing
The
Hope
Five
Website
And
Found
This
File
And
It's
A
URL
But
Basically
It's
BBC
Hackers
.
MP3
If
You
Go
To
The
Fifth
Hope
.org
If
You
Go
To
The
Hope
Website
And
Look
In
The
Wiki
I
Believe
It
Is
In
The
Media
Section
But
We're
Going
To
Open
The
Show
We
Actually
Did
Open
The
Show
With
This
So
You
Heard
It
At
The
Beginning
Of
The
Show
So
We
Found
This
File
Of
A
Radio
Cast
From
The
BBC
And
I
Think
You'll
Agree
With
Me
On
This
Media
Image
Hackers
As
It
Were
Is
Starting
To
Get
Very
Outdated
And
Is
Really
Starting
To
Anger
Me
I'm
Doing
Good
With
The
Language
So
I'm
Catching
It
Really
Starting
To
Torque
Me
Off
I'll
Say
That
And
It
Seems
To
Me
As
Hard
As
We
Try
To
Make
People
Understand
Why
We
Do
What
We
Do
And
The
Kind
Of
Ideas
We
Hold
Are
Not
Reported
As
They
Should
Be
Attitudes
Like
The
One
Displayed
In
This
Radio
Cast
Seem
To
Stamp
On
All
The
Good
Work
You
Do
And
Others
Like
You
BBC
The
Not
I
No
I
Thought
You
I
Thought
You
Actually
Liked
The
BBC
Before
Oh
I
Do
I
Just
Wouldn't
Consider
Myself
A
Big
Supporter
I
Watch
It
Yet
Oh
Okay
All
Right
I
Read
BBC
Local
News
Oddly
Enough
Still
Not
Sure
Why
But
It
Kind
Of
Cool
Hearing
What's
Going
On
In
Northern
Ireland
Generally
They
Are
A
Little
Bit
Less
Biased
Than
Well
I
Mean
It's
Hard
To
Not
Be
Everybody
Is
Less
Biased
Than
American
News
But
That
Could
Be
A
Whole
Show
In
And
Of
Itself
Anyway
BBC
The
British
TV
Corp
Are
Widely
Known
To
Report
News
As
It
Is
Unlike
The
Most
Dumbed
Down
US
Media
The
BBC
And
The
Guardian
Are
Both
Nonprofit
Orgs
So
They
Have
No
Reason
To
Make
Say
Shareholders
Or
Aspects
Of
Government
Look
Good
E.G
During
The
War
The
US
Media
Stopped
Showing
Pictures
Of
Things
Like
The
Coffins
Of
Dead
Servicemen
And
Were
Subject
To
A
Cutting
Down
Of
The
Facts
These
Those
Types
Of
Actions
Weren't
Taken
Over
Here
My
Problem
Is
Why
The
British
Media
And
Other
Media
Centers
Seize
Fit
To
Report
The
Facts
On
Wars
Government
Pop
Gulture
Etc
But
Can't
Seem
To
Manage
It
On
This
Topic
Information
On
The
Kind
Of
Ideas
Many
People
In
The
Hacking
Community
Hold
I
Hope
I
Read
That
I
Kind
Of
Stumbled
Over
That
One
A
Little
Bit
Most
Respect
To
Bin
Rant
Radio
And
Default
Radio
Oh
And
Stank
More
Rants
Please
It's
Good
To
Hear
People
Getting
Issues
Off
Their
Chest
Yeah
I
It
Would
Be
Interesting
For
Me
To
Do
An
All
Rant
Show
I
Would
Probably
Collapse
From
Blood
Rushing
To
My
Head
And
Dehydration
And
Heat
Stroke
All
At
The
Same
Time
If
I
Try
To
Go
An
Hour
Ranting
So
That's
Kind
Of
A
Dangerous
Proposition
For
Me
Now
Some
Of
Your
Topics
Here
Now
First
Of
All
We
Again
We
Played
The
BBC
At
The
Opening
At
The
Beginning
Of
The
Show
So
People
Know
Exactly
What
We're
Talking
About
But
There's
Couple
Other
Comments
Here
That
I'm
Not
Quite
Sure
I
Agree
With
And
Again
Jump
In
Here
If
You
Want
To
If
You
Disagree
Or
Whatever
But
You
Know
His
Example
Was
Carrying
Coffins
Let
Me
Read
It
Again
During
The
War
The
U.S.
Media
Stopped
Showing
Pictures
Of
Things
Like
The
Coffins
Of
Dead
Servicemen
Cutting
Down
The
Facts
And
We're
Subject
To
A
Cutting
Down
On
The
Facts
To
Me
Showing
Pictures
Of
People
Carrying
Coffins
That's
Not
Really
News
Or
Reporting
To
Me
I
Mean
Even
The
U.S.
Media
No
Media
Is
Hiding
The
Fact
That
People
Are
Dying
In
This
War
There's
No
Doubt
About
That
Whether
Or
Not
They
Show
Coffins
And
Dead
That
To
Me
Just
Crosses
A
Line
Into
Gratuitous
I
Mean
Do
I
Really
Need
To
See
The
Misfortune
And
The
Horrible
Scene
And
The
Gory
Details
Quite
Frankly
Or
Something
Like
That
That's
Not
Really
Do
You
Really
Need
To
See
It
Is
The
Question
Is
Does
The
Average
Person
And
I
Think
The
Easy
Answer
To
That
Is
Yes
How
Many
Traffic
Jams
Have
You
Been
Stuck
In
Because
Of
A
Wreck
On
The
Side
Of
Showing
You
Know
Just
Because
They
Show
Something
Like
That
I
Don't
See
How
That
Qualifies
As
Better
News
Reporting
Really
At
All
So
I
Not
Sure
About
That
Example
I
Think
The
Omission
Of
It
To
Me
Is
Better
News
Reporting
Personally
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
If
I
Go
That
Far
But
Well
Kind
Of
Yeah
I
Mean
I
Kind
Of
Agree
With
That
But
Not
In
This
Particular
Example
Yes
In
This
Particular
Example
There's
Just
No
Need
To
Show
Like
A
Hostage
Situation
Do
We
Really
Need
To
See
Those
Beheadings
And
Stuff
It's
Terrible
Enough
To
Know
That
They
Have
Good
Entertainment
Unfortunately
Yes
Well
To
Some
People
Unfortunately
Yes
But
You
Know
What
It's
A
Horrible
Thing
And
I
Don't
Need
To
See
It
To
Feel
Bad
And
To
Feel
Terrible
That
Something
Like
That
Happens
But
You
Know
What
Let's
Just
This
Is
A
Hacking
Show
Let's
Not
Get
Too
Caught
Up
In
The
Political
Aspect
I
Just
Wanted
To
Say
That
You
Know
Sometimes
I'm
Going
To
Give
The
Benefit
Of
The
Doubt
And
Say
Yes
Our
Media
Is
Biased
That
Might
Not
Have
Been
The
Best
Example
But
You
Know
Take
It
For
What
It
Is
Now
Back
To
The
BBC
And
This
Particular
Clip
It
Is
A
Shame
To
Hear
Hackers
Reported
In
Poor
Light
In
Poor
Things
Poor
Ways
I
Don't
Really
Know
It
It's
Going
To
Take
A
Long
Time
To
Change
People's
Opinions
On
Hackers
You
Know
And
It's
Been
Tried
In
Many
Different
Ways
And
We've
Been
Over
This
On
The
Show
We've
Beaten
This
Horse
To
Death
You
Know
The
Whole
Hacker
Versus
Cracker
Thing
That
Didn't
Go
Over
Very
Well
If
Anything
There's
Remnants
Of
That
Now
Where
Some
People
Try
To
Force
Those
Terms
And
They're
Thinking
They're
Doing
The
Right
Thing
And
They're
Just
Making
It
Worse
And
More
Convoluted
And
Then
You
Got
The
Black
Hat
White
Hat
Thing
I
Like
That
One
Better
Actually
Because
There
Are
Black
Hat
Hackers
Out
Of
Course
You
Know
Read
Binary
Revolution
2.1
For
My
Opinions
On
That
But
It's
Not
An
Overnight
Process
It's
Going
To
Take
Time
And
It's
Going
To
Take
Action
You
Know
Actions
Always
Speak
Louder
Than
Words
Putting
Out
This
Show
Each
Week
All
The
Other
Shows
That
Talk
About
What
Hacking
Really
Is
And
What
It's
About
Going
Out
And
Working
On
Projects
And
Positive
Things
And
Giving
To
The
Community
And
Stuff
Like
That
Action
Will
Help
Overcome
Some
Of
That
Stuff
And
It's
Slowly
Over
Time
So
Yeah
We're
Fighting
Constantly
To
Change
People's
Beliefs
But
It's
Definitely
An
Uphill
Battle
Definitely
Plus
You know
Like I
Said
There
Are
People
That
Are
Using
Computers
To
Do
Bad
Things
That
Aren't
Even
Hackers
But
They
Use
A
Computer
To
Do
It
And
They
Claim
To
Be
A
Hacker
They
Do
It
In
The
Name
Of
Hackers
You
Know
Sometimes
They
Get
Labeled
As
Hackers
And
They
Didn't
Even
Know
It
Just
Because
They
Used
A
Computer
So
That
Sets
Things
Back
Even
Further
So
That's
Why
You
Know
That's
Why
We
Call
This
The
Binary
Revolution
Revolutions
Take
Time
This
Is
The
Beginning
Of
A
Binary
Revolution
A
Taking
Back
Of
The
Word
Hacker
We
Have
Only
Begun
To
Fight
By
The
Way
If
We
Get
Into
A
Fight
At
Freak
Nick
You
Got
My
Back
Right
Of
Course
I'll
Throw
Down
Oh
Man
Alright
I
Think
Let's
Close
Up
The
Mail
Bag
I
Have
One
More
Here
I
Might
Come
Back
To
Later
But
It's
More
Of
A
Review
And
I
That's
Actually
More
Like
Real
Content
So
I'm
Going
To
Hold
Off
On
That
For
A
Little
Bit
And
Let's
Jump
Into
The
Personal
Hacking
Stories
So
I'll
Go
Into
My
Show
And
Tell
What
I've
Been
Working
On
For
The
Past
Geez
I
Had
My
2600
Meeting
This
Past
Week
And
We
Reminded
Everyone
To
Go
To
Your
2600
Meeting
Before
So
My
2600
Meeting
I
Thought
Went
Very
Well
Probably
The
Very
Good
Presentations
Well
I
Guess
I
Should
Say
Two
Very
Good
Presentations
Mine
I
Don't
Know
How
Mine
Was
I'm
Not
Going
To
Say
Mine
Was
Great
There
Were
Two
Other
Very
Good
Presentations
Someone
I
Invited
Actually
To
Come
Give
A
Demonstration
And
Thank
You
Very
Much
To
Him
For
Presenting
El
Diablo
Coming
To
Our
Meeting
And
Kind
Of
Developing
A
Relationship
A
Cooperation
If
You
Will
Between
Our
2600
Meeting
And
The
Semi
Local
DEFCON
Meeting
There's
A
DEFCON
Meeting
Further
Away
From
Us
In
A
Different
County
But
We're
Kind
Of
Been
Talking
And
Working
Together
Kind
Of
Forge
An
Alliance
If
You
Will
A
Relationship
Something
Like
That
Where
We
Can
Maybe
Attend
Each
Other
Meet
On
Occasion
Now
Again
Two
Different
Counties
It's
Quite
A
Drive
For
A
Lot
Of
People
So
I
Don't
Know
That
It's
Something
That
Can
Happen
Regularly
But
At
Least
For
Presentation
Purposes
Maybe
We
Can
Show
Up
At
Each
Other's
Meetings
If
We
Have
Presentations
To
Kind
Of
Help
It
Out
Not
A
Competition
Thing
There'll
Be
A
Lot
Of
Crossover
From
The
Groups
Etc
I
Think
That's
Very
Cool
I
Think
These
Groups
Can
Co
Exist
You
Know
So
I
Like
To
See
That
Happen
In
More
Places
Myself
Now
Besides
That
Some
Of
The
Listeners
Might
Remember
Gosh
It's
Been
Quite
A
Few
Episodes
Ago
Maybe
Ten
Or
More
Episodes
Ago
Maybe
Not
That
Many
Well
I
Mentioned
On
The
Air
That
I
Was
Having
A
Problem
With
My
KVM
Switch
And
My
Keyboard
Video
I
Have
One
Monitor
One
Keyboard
One
Mouse
And
I
Try
To
Control
Multiple
Boxes
I
Try
To
Free
Up
Some
Desk
Space
By
Getting
Rid
Of
All
The
Extra
Monitors
Etc
Well
The
Problem
I
Was
Running
Into
With
It
Was
That
I
Have
A
Couple
Of
Linux
Boxes
On
Here
I
Have
A
Linux
Box
I
Have
Two
Linux
Boxes
An
XP
Box
And
A
Test
Box
For
Whatever
I
Feel
Like
Throwing
On
At
Any
Given
Time
Well
The
Problem
That
I
Have
Is
That
When
I
Switch
Over
To
The
Linux
Boxes
The
Mouse
Just
Goes
Berserk
It
Just
Goes
Completely
Haywire
Can't
Control
It
On
The
Screen
On
The
Linux
Boxes
That
Is
On
Windows
Box
It
Will
Work
Fine
But
On
The
Linux
Boxes
The
Mouse
Just
Goes
Crazy
The
Cursor
Goes
Crazy
I
Should
Say
I
Cannot
Control
It
With
The
Mouse
And
Any
Trying
Or
Attempt
Ends
Up
It
Blindly
Clicking
And
Moving
And
Dragging
Like
Things
Start
Disappearing
And
Moving
On
The
Screen
So
It
Basically
Comes
Down
To
A
Shutting
Down
Of
The
Box
Or
Actually
I
Think
I
Found
Out
That
Restarting
X
Restarting
The X
Windows
Environment
Will
Seem
To
Fix
It
Until
Of
Course
I
Navigate
Away
From
It
On
Last
Week
Was
That
Perhaps
Putting
In
A
Constant
Power
Supply
To
The
KVM
Switch
The
KVM
Switch
Does
Not
Require
Power
It
Actually
Gets
Its
Power
Through
The
Keyboard
Port
The
PS2
Port
Which
I
Thought
Was
Interesting
So
As
Long
As
One
Keyboard
Is
Plugged
In
From
One
Of
The
Systems
It
Got
Power
To
Run
The
Box
Well
I
Thought
Maybe
Putting
In
A
Constant
Power
Supply
To
Communicate
And
Pull
The
Hardware
And
I
Was
Thinking
That
Maybe
Switching
From
One
Control
To
The
Other
Going
Through
My
KVM
Controls
Was
Causing
It
To
Lose
Communication
And
Therefore
Get
Confused
And
Choke
Well
It
Didn't
Help
Long
Story
Short
It
Did
Not
Work
Still
Acting
The
Same
Way
I
Don't
Know
What
Is
Going
On
I
Have
The
Power
Supply
On
There
The
Correct
Power
Supply
And
It
Still
Having
The
Same
Thing
Now
Again
Like
I
Said
Restarting
X
Seems
To
Fix
It
So
I
Guess
It
Is
An
X
Windows
Issue
Of
Some
Sort
And
I
Guess
I
Have
To
Look
Into
It
If
Anybody
Has
Had
Problems
Like
This
Please
Email
Me
Your
Advice
And
Let
Me
Know
What
Worked
For
You
I
Can
Tell
You
That
The
KVM
Switch
Is
A
Belkin
4
Port
KVM
And
I
Wondering
Now
That
Maybe
Is
It
Possibly
A
Driver
Because
I
That's
Really
Been
My
Issue
Going
For
The
Last
Well
However
Long
It's
Been
Going
On
For
The
Last
Month
Or
Two
So
I
Was
Very
Disappointed
To
Find
Out
That
Adding
The
Power
Supply
To
It
Did
Not
Help
Or
Did
Not
Work
So
Again
Our
2600
Meeting
I'm
Hoping
We'll
Start
Having
A
Lot
More
Presentations
More
Regularly
Again
I've
Got
Some
Guests
In
Mine
Lined
Cooperation
With
Some
Of
The
Other
Groups
And
Some
Other
Security
Groups
And
User
Groups
And
Stuff
Like
That
And
Try
To
I
Mean
Our
Meeting
Was
Probably
Let
Me
Think
Our
Meeting
Was
Probably
20
Or
More
People
This
Month
Which
Is
Definitely
The
Biggest
I've
Seen
I
Mean
There
Might
Have
Even
Been
25
Or
More
People
There
At
Any
Given
Time
So
That's
Very
Cool
So
I'd
But
I
Guess
We'll
Find
Out
Next
Month
So
Yeah
So
Do
You
Think
That's
Probably
The
Problem
With
The
KVM
Switch
I
Think
So
Yeah
And
What
Is
That
Problem
Again
Probably
Just
Some
Form
Of
Problem
In
The
X11
Configuration
Settings
Is
It
Probably
You
Think
It's
A
Driver
Issue
With
The
Intellimouse
The
Microsoft
Intellimouse
Explorer
Whatever
This
Damn
Thing
Is
Called
Do
You
Think
It's
The
Fact
That
It's
The
Laser
Mouse
Or
Do
You
Think
It's
Something
More
I
Don't
Know
I
If
You
Look
There
Are
Obviously
Different
Types
Of
Mice
Are
You
Using
Auto
And
Like
Standard
PS2
Or
Are
You
Using
Settings
Specifically
For
Intellimouse
I
Think
I
Tried
Both
And
Had
The
Same
Problem
Either
Way
And
The
Ultimate
Question
Have
You
Talked
To
God
About
It
Well
Of
Course
And
He
Told
Me
To
Call
You
Actually
Google
Told
You
To
Call
Me
They
Took
They
He
Put
Me
On
Hold
And
Transferred
Me
I
Must
Be
Special
At
Google
That's
Yeah
Google
Labs
Aptitude
Test
We
Won't
Go
Into
That
Again
We
Had
A
Two
Hour
Conversation
On
That
Already
Today
Oh
Man
Anyway
So
Yeah
My
Meeting
Was
Really
Good
And
That's
Pretty
Much
My
Show
Until
Now
How
Did
Yours
I
Mean
Did
You
Go
To
Your
Meeting
And
You
Don't
Have
Anymore
We
Don't
Have
Anything
Around
Here
Yeah
I
Guess
I
Should
Yeah
I
Guess
I
Started
Working
On
An
Asterisk
Project
Getting
To
Play
With
Asterisk
A
Bit
Which
Is
Fun
I
I'm
Envious
Of
Not
Theory
Bastard
Yeah
Everybody's
Putting up
An
Asterisk
Box
These
Days
It's
The
Thing
To
Do
It's
The
Cool
Thing
It
Is
Very
Cool
Let's
See
What
Else
Have
Been
Doing
I've
Been
Getting
Some
Coding
In
As
Sad
As
I
I'm
Going
To
And
I
Like
It
I
Thought
You
Were
Going
To
Say
Java
I
Would
Have
Flogged
You
For
That
I'm
A
Java
Person
I
Know
You
Are
And
I'm
Not
Flogged
Me
For
Doing
What
I
Always
Do
Yeah
There
You
Go
But
I
Have
Been
Playing
With
I
Learned
C
Sharp
I
Like
The
.NET
Platform
It's
A
Cool
Idea
I
Know
I
Should
Be
Logged
For
It
Open
Source
Open
Source
Woo
But
Well
You
Can
Open
Source
Projects
Just
Because
It's
In
Their
Closed
Source
Environment
Yeah
This
Is
True
IDE
It's
Quite
Impressive
I'm
Trying
To
Think
Of
What
Else
I've
Been
Doing
Again
A
Lot
Of
Porn
You
Just
Had
A
Big
Burst
Of
Static
On
Your
Phone
There
Too
I
Don't
Know
Where
That
Came
From
Oh
Yeah
It's
My
Lovely
T720
I've
Bitched
About
That
Tons
Yeah
Did I
Tell
You
I
Finally
Upgraded
I
Got
The
Motorola
V600
Now
I
Bet
Your
Life
Is
So
Much
Better
I
Retired
I
Retired
The
T720
The
T720i
Is
Now
Retired
And
Yeah
This
Phone's
Been
Pretty
Good
So
Far
I
Actually
I'm
Glad
You
Brought
That
Back
Up
I
Didn't
Mention
That
In
My
Hacking
Stories
I
Might
Have
Mentioned
That
On
A
Previous
Show
But
So
Far
Yeah
I'm
Pretty
Happy
With
This
Phone
It's
The
Service
The
Carrier
I'm
Not
Real
Happy
With
But
You
Know
What
It's
For
As
Little
As
I
Use
It
And
It's
Not
Really
Worth
A
It's
Not
A
Big
Deal
Gets
The
Job
Done
I
Got
Mine
Only
Gets
About
Half
Way
There
Yeah
Statically
Just as
You said
That
Too
How
Ironic
But
I
Think
That's
Pretty
Much
It
I
Haven't
I
Haven't
Really
Been
Up
To
Too
Much
Mostly
I've
Been
Working
On
My
Personal
Things
Like
Music
I've
Been
Focusing
On
That
Playing
A
Whole
Lot
More
Lately
That's
Very
Cool
And
We
Will
Make
Sure
That
We
Put
Those
Online
For
Everybody
That
Is
If
There
Is
Something
You
Want
To
Share
Of
Course
But
We're
Going
To
Let's
Jump
Into
The
Regular
Show
Topics
Tonight
And
Let's
Just
Pull
Out
The
Shotgun
Because
I
Just
Got
A
Lot
Of
Short
Topics
Little
Things
To
Talk
About
Not
A
Bunch
Of
Little
Things
A
Few
Little
Topics
And
Probably
The
Biggest
One
Let's
Start
With
And
Let's
Make
Kind
Of
The
Really
Unnecessary
For
A
Lot
Of
People
Because
I
Know
A
Lot
Of
People
Are
Using
Firefox
Already
You
Use
Firefox
Regularly
Correct
Every
Day
Yeah
I've
Abandoned
Everything
Else
I
Have
IE
Of
Course
Because
A
You
Can't
Get
Rid
Of
It
You
Have
No
Choice
If
You're
Using
Windows
OS
And
B
I
Still
Have
A
Couple
Things
That
Only
Work
In
IE
And
They're
Of
Course
Work
Related
And
I
Can't
Do
Anything
About
You
Know
It's
Out
Of
My
Hands
But
I
Have
Found
A
Couple
Of
Plugins
A
Couple
Of
Things
That
Only
Work
In
IE
And
It's
Usually
Other
Microsoft
Products
Of
Course
So
That
Being
Said
I
Still
Am
Completely
Sold
On
Firefox
I
Made
It
My
Default
Browser
Quite
A
While
Back
And
I
Just
I
Use
It
For
99
Percent
Of
My
A
Couple
Of
Bugs
That
I
Found
And
I
Am
A
Little
Bit
Disappointed
Tell
Me
What
You
Think
Of
This
If
You
I
Found
A
Couple
Bugs
And
They
Are
Not
Like
You
Know
They're
Not
Severe
But
They're
Annoying
And
I
Went
To
Actually
Report
Them
And
I
Was
A
Little
Bit
I
Don't
Know
What
The
Word
Is
Disturbed
A
Little
Bit
Angry
To
Find
That
If
They
Want
You
To
Actually
Register
With
Them
To
Report
A
Bug
And
I
Didn't
Really
Care
For
That
A
Whole
Lot
No
I
Don't
Think
I
Necessarily
Agree
With
It
I
Mean
In
A
Way
It
Could
Be
A
Good
Thing
But
I
Don't
I
Don't
Think
It
Should
Be
A
Requirement
Yeah
I
Don't
Why
I
Can't
Think
Of
Why
They
Would
Make
You
Register
To
Report
A
Bug
I
Just
Give
You
Mad
Props
Yeah
Right
That's
Not
Going
To
Happen
Well
Let
Just
Share
Them
With
The
World
At
Large
Again
Like
I
Said
They're
Kind
Of
Minor
But
They
Are
Things
That
I
Use
A
Lot
Because
One
Of
The
New
Features
On
Firefox
That
I
Really
Like
Is
The
Control
F
To
Use
The
Control
F
To
Find
A
Phrase
On
The
Page
And
This
Is
Something
That
I
Always
Loved
I
Fell
In
Love
With
This
When
It
Came
With
The
Google
Toolbar
And
I
It
Would
Allow
Me
To
Highlight
Terms
On
The
Page
So
I
Could
Type
In
Something
In
The
Google
Toolbar
Like
Search
For
Through
Google
Which
I
Do
A
Lot
Of
With
Toolbar
And
If
You
Have
Multiple
Terms
You
Can
Have
Them
Highlighted
In
Different
Colors
You
Can
Click
On
The
Words
In
The
Toolbar
And
It
Will
Go
Straight
To
It
Have
You
Used
Those
Yeah
Are
You
Talking
About
The
New
Search
Features
In
1.0
Beta
Right
Of
Firefox
I
Was
Comparing
Them
Back
To
The
Old
Google
Toolbar
That
Plugin
For
IE
I
Have
Actually
Never
Used
The
Google
Toolbar
Okay
Well
See
It
Had
Similar
Thing
Now
In
The
New
One
You
Have
The
Control
F
Will
Automatically
Bring
Up
A
Toolbar
A
Little
Tiny
Bar
At
The
Bottom
Of
The
Screen
In
Firefox
And
I'm
Saying
Yeah
That's
Really
Something
Cool
I
Actually
Had
A
Discussion
On
This
At
Our
Last
2600
Meeting
About
How
I
Like
The
Google
Toolbar
And
IE
And
Some
Of
The
Like
Highlighting
A
Word
On
A
Page
And
I
Use
That
A
Lot
Because
I
Do
Some
Pretty
Intense
Searching
I
Do
Some
Pretty
Complex
Searching
Some
Google
Hacking
Whatever
You
Want
To
Call
It
Using
A
Lot
Of
Their
Terms
And
I
Want
To
Be
To
Find
Specific
Things
On
The
Page
And
Sometimes
I
Use
It
To
Browse
A
Data
File
And
Find
Something
You
Can
Type
Into
That
Google
Toolbar
And
I
That
Is
The
Plugin
And
Look
For
It
On
The
Page
Without
Actually
Going
To
Google
Sites
So
It
Actually
Serves
A
Point
Of
Doing
A
Find
On
A
Very
Large
Data
File
For
Example
Well
That
Feature
Was
Not
In
Firefox
Google
Bar
I
Won't
Call
It
Toolbar
But
The
Google
Search
Thing
You
Could
Click
On
It
Select
Drop
Down
Select
Find
On
Page
And
Then
Search
That
Way
But
It
Not
The
Same
It
So
You
Have
To
Go
Through
A
Lot
Of
Clicks
To
Do
That
And
I
Don't
Really
Keep
My
Hand
On
The
Mouse
On
The
Keyboard
I
Know
All
The
Keyboard
Shortcuts
I
Don't
Really
Go
To
The
So
They
Added
Control
F
Feature
To
Firefox
Which
Is
Fantastic
And
What
It
Does
As
Soon
As
You
Hit
Control
First
All
It
Is
Very
Intuitive
Which
I
Like
About
It
Very
Intuitive
All
You
Have
To
Do
Is
Hit
Control
F
And
It
Automatically
Pops
Up
At
The
Bottom
And
You
Can
Start
Typing
In
Whatever
Word
You
Want
To
Search
For
And
If
It
Not
There
It
Will
Kind
Of
Buzz
At
You
And
Let
You
Know
That
It
Is
Already
Not
On
The
Page
And
If
It
Is
On
The
Page
It
Will
Jump
To
It
And
You
Also
Have
The
Find
Next
And
Find
Previous
Buttons
And
I
Believe
It
Also
Has
The
Highlight
Function
Does
It
Not
Yes
It
Does
Okay
So
That's
Also
Something
In
The
Google
Toolbar
If
You
Had
Multiple
Words
With
The
Google
Toolbar
You
Could
Even
Do
Them
In
Multiple
Colors
So
You
Could
Find
Each
Individual
Word
On
The
Page
I
Don't
Know
All
Of
Them
And
Maybe
That's
Something
They
Can
Improve
On
In
Future
Releases
Just
The
Fact
That
It
Exists
Is
Already
Very
Cool
But
As
Far
As
Bugs
I'll
Tell
You
There's
Two
Bugs
Related
Specifically
To
That
One
Is
I
Found
That
It
Will
Not
Search
Inside
Of
An
Embedded
Text
Box
For
I
Guess
That's
What
You
Would
Call
It
If
You
Have
Text
Inside
Of
Inside
Like
A
Scroll
Bar
Right
I've
Noticed
That
It
Won't
Search
Depending
On
The
Type
It
Won't
Search
Inside
Of
Other
Frames
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
If
It
Depends
On
Frame
But
Like
For
Instance
Mine
Won't
Search
At
Supernova
Unless
I've
Actually
Clicked
Within
The
Middle
Frame
That
Has
The
List
Of
Files
Yeah
I
Guess
That
Probably
Makes
Sense
That's
Probably
True
Of
Any
Of
The
Browsers
Are
Probably
Like
That
But
Like
A
Terms
Of
Service
Website
Where
It
Says
You
Have
To
Scroll
Through
The
Terms
Of
Service
Click
On
I
Agree
When
You
Try
To
Search
If
There's
A
Word
In
That
Terms
Of
Service
And
You
Know
It's
There
And
You
Do
The
Control
Find
It
Will
Not
Find
It
Inside
Of
That
Embedded
Text
Box
Is
That
After
You
Put
The
Cursor
In
That
Box
I
Pretty
Sure
I
Tried
That
And
Yes
It
Still
Did
Not
Find
It
Inside
Of
The
Box
No
I
Was
Just
Making
Up
An
Example
I
Don't
Remember
Exactly
How
I
Came
Across
I
Think
I
Was
Embedded
Into
A
Little
Text
Box
So
That
It
Wouldn't
Execute
So
It
Scrolling
Through
Some
Source
Code
So
And
I
Think
I
Did
A
Find
On
One
Of
The
Terms
Or
Parameters
Or
Something
But
I
Didn't
Want
To
Use
That
As
An
Example
Because
It
Was
Trying
To
Make
Up
A
Better
Example
So
And
Here's
Another
Weird
This
Is
Truly
A
Bug
I
Think
Because
I
Ran
Into
This
One
Where
Again
As a
Matter
Of
Fact
This
Confirms
The
Highlighting
That
I
Was
Talking
About
If
You
Use
The
Highlight
Feature
On
That
Control
F
Find
Bar
If
You
Do
Highlight
The
Search
Terms
On
The
Page
It
Will
Highlight
The
Word
Yellow
Which
Again
Is
Great
Feature
And
Everything
You
Highlight
The
Word
And
When
It's
Highlighted
You
Can
No
Longer
Type
Over
It
Or
Change
It
And
Obviously
If
It's
A
Word
On
The
Web
Page
You
Can't
Change
It
Anyway
But
For
Example
Go
To
Google
Right
Now
Those
Of
You
Or
Whatever
Then
And
Get
Your
Results
Or
Whatever
And
On
The
Results
Page
Go
Up
And
Highlight
The
Word
Dog
Go
Excuse
Me
Go
To
The
Control
F
Toolbar
Font
Do
Your
Find
And
Type
In
D
A
W
G
It
Will
Highlight
The
Word
Dog
Up
In
The
Search
Page
On
Google
And
Let's
Say
You
Suddenly
Changed
Your
Mind
You
Don't
Want
Digital
Dog
Pound
You
Want
Digital
Do
It
Even
Though
It
Is
On
A
Data
Entry
Field
You're
Allowed
To
Type
In
That
Google
Search
Thing
It
Will
Not
Let
You
Do
It
If
You've
Got
The
Highlight
Turned
On
Now
That's
Just a
Bug
It's
A
Feature
Yeah
Sure
Say
I never
Know
If
You're
Even
There
Anymore
Now
I'll
Just
Randomly
Answer
With
Exactly
Arbitrary
Comments
That
Make
No
Sense
Oh
If
The
Listeners
Only
Knew
How
Much
Of
An
Edited
The
Show
This
Ended
Up
Being
Oh
There's
Such
A
Backstory
There
Oh
Man
Kill
A
Fucking
User
Day
Sounds
Better
And
Better
Oh
The
Things
We
Do
To
Get
You
On
The
Show
Man
Oh
What
Else
Can
We
Talk
About
In
The
Firefox
Mini
Review
The
Ad
Blocker
Extension
Plugin
Whatever
You
Want
To
Call
It
Is
Incredible
Phenomenal
How about
Blocking
In
Firefox
Or
Even
Firebird
Has
Always
Been
Nice
Yeah
But
The
Ad
Blocker
Itself
You
Can
The
Ad
Blocker
Plugin
It
Automatically
Detects
Most
Advertisement
Puts
A
Little
Tab
On
It
That
Says
Ad
Block
A
Little
Transparent
Tab
And
You
Can
Click
On
It
And
You
Can
Block
That
Ad
From
Ever
Coming
Up
Again
Now
That
Is
Really
Cool
Just
To
See
It
Work
But
What
Really
Makes
It
Fantastic
Is
That
It
Accepts
Wild
Cards
And
Most
Of
These
Advertising
Companies
They're
You
Know
A .com
Like
For
Example
Double
Click
.com
If
You're
Getting
An
Ad
From
Double
Click
.com
And
It's
Got
A
Bunch
Of
Gibberish
And
Random
Seed
Variables
And
Blah
.swf
Or
.gif
Or
Whatever
You can
Block
It
Individually
Or
You can
Block
Double
Click
.com
Slash
Asterix
And
You'll
Block
Anything
From
That
Site
You'll
Never
See
Another
Ad
From
That
Site
Again
That's
Incredibly
Powerful
So
Like
Sometimes
You
Can't
Do
That
Uh
Oh
What
Sometimes
You
Can't
Do
That
And
Sometimes
You
Will
Accidentally
Block
Out
Real
Content
If
You
Do
It
Too
Globally
But
For
Example
You'll
Find
Something
Like
Ads
You'll
Find
A
Subdomain
Where
They
Put
All
Their
Ads
So
You're
Like
Ads
.yahoo.com
So
You can
Safely
Block
Ads
.yahoo.com
Slash
Star
And
You
Won't
Block
Out
All
The
Other
Yahoo
Images
At
The
Same
Time
Does
That
Make
Sense
Yeah
A lot
Of
Places
Domains
Using
The
Wild
Card
You
Can
Block
Out
Entire
Sites
Like
Double
Click
Etc
Or
If
They're
All
Coming
From
A
Certain
Directory
You
Can
Block
It
Out
On
A
Directory
Level
With
The
Wild
Card
Just
Really
Powerful
The
Best
Ad
Blocking
Software
I've
Ever
Seen
On
Any
Platform
Any
Browser
Any
Kind
Bin
Rev.com
Slash
Star
Yeah
Block
It
All
Baby
And
What
Oh
There's
Also
A
Cool
Extension
For
Downloads
I
Don't
Know
What
The
Exact
Name
Of
The
Extension
Is
I
Probably
Should
Have
Looked
It
Up
If
I
Was
A
Good
Show
Host
But
I'm
Not
But
They
Have
A
Downloads
Extension
That
Will
Basically
Let
It
Also
Put
A
Toolbar
At
The
Bottom
Of
The
Browser
Because
I
Don't
Really
Like
The
Download
Manager
Very
Much
I
It
Can
Get
Annoying
Sometimes
I
Like
To
Know
The
Status
Of
Things
And
I
Don't
Have
To
Keep
Going
Back
And
Checking
To
The
Thing
And
If
You
Download
A
Lot
You
Have
To
Clean
It
Up
Because
It
Says
It
And
Yes
You
Can
Configure
It
Different
Ways
But
It
Just
Too
Inflexible
This
Plugin
What
It
Does
Is
Put
A
Little
Bar
At
The
Bottom
And
Puts
And
It
Is
Very
Intuitive
A
And
B
Very
Unintrusive
Sits
Down
At
The
Bottom
Of
The
Screen
It
Doesn't
Take
Up
Much
Screen
Real
Estate
It
You
Know
It
The
Cool
Thing
About
It
About
Firefox
That
Is
That
If
The
Feature
Is
Not
There
Which
There
Is
Already
A
Lot
Of
Great
Ones
People
Are
Writing
Some
Really
Good
Extensions
For
It
That
Fill
In
A
Lot
Of
Sometimes
Yes
I'm
Here
I
Was
Bad
No
Feedback
Oh
I
Was
Just
About
To
Pause
Again
Thought
We
Dropped
You
Again
Oh
Anyway
Um
What
Else
Do
We
Have
My
Yahoo
Like
I
Said
This
Shotgun
Some
Topics
Here
My
Yahoo
The
Customizable
Yahoo
Page
Which
Is
Pretty
Much
My
Home
Page
I
Customize
It
With
All
The
New
Stuff
That
I
Wanted
From
Sports
Scores
And
Stuff
From
Yahoo
You
Know
Not
Very
Demanding
Um
They
They've
Changed
Their
Engine
Now
The
Way
That
They
Load
Content
Um
They've
Always
Used
Their
Own
News
Feeds
Proprietary
Stuff
They
Pay
For
Content
From
Different
Providers
Well
Now
They're
Using
RSS
News
Feeds
So
We've
Had
An
RSS
Episode
Before
Really
Simple
Syndication
I
Wish
I
Knew
The
Number
To
Tell
You
To
Go
Back
And
Listen
To
It
But
You
Can
Find
It
In
The
Show
Notes
They're
Using
RSS
For
Their
Feeds
Now
And
Allow
You
Now
To
Connect
To
Any
RSS
Feed
Out
There
And
Add
It
To
Your
My
Yahoo
Page
So
That's
Really
Cool
I've
Added
Root
Secure
You
Know
Nick
84
Over
There
Has
Got
Some
RSS
Feeds
On
His
Site
That's
Very
Cool
I
Put
Those
At
The
Top
Slash
Dot
My
2600
Page
For
Example
Has
Stuff
Like
Not
Yet
Oh
I
Could
Have
Anything
On
My
Site
What
Are
You
Talking
About
Yeah
I
Could
Have
Sworn
I
Saw
The
Button
For
That
On
There
Wait
We
Might
Actually
Have
It
I
Don't
Do
The
Development
For
You
Don't
Even
Know
That
You
Have
It
On
Your
Own
Site
I'm
The
Admin
Damn
It
Yeah
Right
Yeah
But
Any
RSS
Feed
You
Can
Add
And
Put
It
On
My
For
Their
Own
Internal
News
Feeds
Like
Their
AP
Press
Feeds
Their
Yahoo
Headlines
Feeds
Their
Other
Yahoo
Content
I
Wonder
If
They're
Switching
To
RSS
Feeds
Themselves
And
Feeding
It
To
Their
Own
Site
And
If
So
I
Wonder
If
I
Can
Reverse
Engineer
The
Code
A
Little
Bit
To
Take
Their
RSS
Feeds
And
Post
Them
Over
On
My
Site
Or
On
Another
Site
Parsing
Through
Their
XML
So
That
Might
Make
An
Interesting
Project
Oh
And
Update
Yes
We
Have
RSS
There
You
Go
Gotta
Love
AIM
Oh
Let's
See
What
Else
Okay
You
Know
What
I
Got
A
Couple
Articles
Here
Let
See
How
We're
Doing
On
Time
It's
Kind
Of
Hard
To
Tell
With
All
That's
Been
Going
On
Tonight
I
Have
A
Couple
Things
From
I
Just
Got
My
New
Popular
Science
October
2004
Issue
Of
Popular
Science
And
It
Had
A
Couple
Articles
In
There
I
Wanted
To
Talk
About
Nothing
Too
In
Depth
But
And
I
Know
You
Don't
Have
This
In
Front
Of
You
So
I'll
Kind
Of
Wing
This
A
Little
Bit
Like
I'm
Not
Already
Dominating
The
Conversation
Anyway
You
Should
Just
Jump
In
Once
In
A
While
Make
Comments
For
Me
If
I'm
Not
There
Okay
I
Don't
Know
If
I
Can
If
I
Can
You
You're
Great
You're
Awesome
You're
My
Hero
Let's
See
There's
Two
Things
In
Here
Actually
I'll
Go
Through
One
Quickly
Because
I
Want
To
Read
A
Couple
Of
These
One
It's
A
Little
I
Don't
Know
If
This
Is
A
Joke
Or
If
It's
Light
Hearted
I'll
Say
That
It's
Called
Five
Things
To
Know
Before
Getting
An
RF
ID
Chip
Implant
RFID
Of
Course
Something
We've
Talked
About
In
The
Show
Many
Times
And
These
Are
Five
Things
To
Know
Before
Getting
Your
RFID
Chip
Implant
Top
Five
List
If
You
Will
And
Basically
This
Is
Just
Their
Way
Of
Telling
You
Some
Basic
Stuff
About
It
The
First
One
Says
You'll
Hardly
Feel
A
Thing
The
Chip
Is
Housed
In
A
Glass
Capsule
The
Size
Of
A
Grain
Of
Rice
That
Is
Inserted
Just
Under
Your
Skin
By
Syringe
And
Removed
With
A
Tiny
Scalpel
Slice
Only
Massive
Blunt
Force
Trauma
Can
Shatter
It
That
Sounds
Fun
Yeah
Just
A
Little
So
They're
Going
To
Put
A
Little
Grain
Of
Rice
In
There
With
The
RFID
Tag
In
It
And
Whatever
Information
And
A
Scalpel
Slice
Can
Take
It
Out
So
What's
The
Stop
I
Steal
Your
RFID
Tag
Out
Of
You
Just
Cut
Off
Your
Whole
Arm
Yeah
Number
Two
There's
No
On
Off
Switch
The
Chip
Is
Activated
By
A
Same
Brand
RFID
Reader
Passing
Within
One
Or
Two
Feet
One
To
Two
Feet
But
The
Only
Info
Stored
On
It
Is
An
ID
Number
For
A
Password
Protected
Database
To
Which
You
Control
Access
So
Far
The
Chips
Lack
A
GPS
Capability
So
You
Can't
Be
Tracked
Um
Yeah
About
That
I
Don't
Really
Know
How
I
Feel
About
Having
Any
Kind
Of
Database
Tied
To
An
RFID
Tag
Especially
Like
This
Brings
To
Mind
The
Idea
Of
Using
The
Same
Password
For
Every
Single
Site
That
You
Go
To
Using
The
Same
One
Password
Every
Time
You
Go
To
A
Site
It
Is
Kind
Of
Like
This
RFID
Tag
If
It
Is
Tied
To
Different
Databases
For
Example
You
Use
An
RFID
Tag
In
Your
Arm
That
Is
Going
To
Identify
I
Think
There
You
Know
There's
Been
Talk
Of
Having
Your
Medical
Information
You
Go
To
The
Hospital
They
Can
Scan
Your
RFID
Tag
And
Know
What
Allergies
You
Have
What
You
Allergic
To
Using
The
Chip
To
Give
You
Access
To
Your
Place
Of
Business
For
Example
As
A
Security
Measure
You
Have
To
Have
RFID
Tag
That
Identifies
You
To
Come
In
So
Again
Back
To
Having
The
Same
Password
From
Multiple
Sites
You
Get
That
Feeling
Of
If
You
Get
Someone's
RFID
Tag
Through
Whatever
Means
Necessary
Then
You
Sure
Get
A
Lot
Of
Access
And
Actually
I
Should
Have
Read
Number
The
Database
The
Chip
Is
Linked
To
Can
Hold
Anything
From
Your
Medical
History
To
Access
Rights
For
Secure
Buildings
Exactly
What
I
Just
Said
A
Feature
Already
Being
Used
By
The
Mexican
Government
Interesting
And
Number
Four
Is
Or
It
Can
Just
Get
You
Drunk
The
Baja
Beach
Club
In
Barcelona
Let's
Customers
Get
Chipped
For
150
Bucks
Bartenders
Scan
Implanted
Patrons
Arms
Patrons
Arms
To
Now
Come
On
Seriously
I
Mean
There's
No
Way
In
Hell
I
Would
Tie
A
Credit
Card
To
This
Thing
Absolutely
No
Way
Because
Again
It's
Too
Easy
To
Lose
Or
To
Have
It
Stolen
Or
Any
Number
Of
Things
Go
Wrong
With
It
And
It's
Tied
To
Your
Credit
Card
That's
Just
Way
Too
Dangerous
Is
It
A
Little
Extreme
To
Believe
That
Would
Happen
Maybe
So
But
If
They
Ever
Really
Became
Widely
Used
I
Guarantee
You
That
Is
Something
That
You
Would
Start
To
See
Happen
Absolutely
Would
And
People
Would
Stalk
And
Watch
You
To
Find
Out
Where
Your
RFID
Works
They
Know
Where
Your
Credit
Card
Information
Is
And
They
Would
Follow
You
And
Take
Advantage
Of
It
Or
They
Would
Steal
Your
Chips
Somehow
I
Mean
The
Potential
Is
Just
Phenomenal
And
Number
Five
Is
Fido
Is
One
Step
Ahead
Of
You
Verichip
The
Company
That
Makes
The
Only
Human
Implantable
Chips
Has
Already
Put
Them
In
More
Than
30
Million
Dogs
Cats
Livestock
And
Wild
Animals
Every
Month
About
6,000
Lost
Pets
Are
Reunited
With
Their
Owners
When
Shelters
Scan
The
Chips
Now
That
Is
A
Very
Cool
Use
For
RFID
That
I
Support
I
Think
That's
A
Very
Cool
Thing
Putting
It
Into
Animals
But
You
Know
What
We're
Human
Beings
We're
Not
Animals
Well
I
Guess
We're
Kind
Of
Sort
Of
An
Animal
But
We're
We
Don't
Need
To
Be
Chipped
Because
We
Get
Lost
Like
An
Actual
Animal
So
That
Seems
To
Be
What
I
Could
Do
With
It
And
If
I
Could
Hack
It
Or
Something
Like
That
Allowing
This
To
Be
Done
But
I
Certainly
Wouldn't
Tie a lot
Of
These
Things
That
They're
Suggesting
People
Do
With
It
That
Really
Sounds
Dangerous
And
You
Know
If
You
Are
Somebody
That
Has
Let's
Say
Let's
Go
Back
To
The
Physical
Security
Thing
If
You
Have
Physical
Security
To
A
Building
You
Suddenly
Become
A
Target
Let's
Say
You
Had
Physical
Access
To
The
Twin
Towers
Or
Something
Like
That
Obviously
A
Point
Of
Attack
They
Were
You
Know
Speaking
In
Past
Tense
Here
I
Guess
You
Had
Access
To
A
Building
That
Somebody
Wanted
To
Do
Something
To
Or
Access
To
A
To
A
Secured
Area
That
Somebody
Wanted
To
Break
Into
Well
They're
Going
To
Be
Casing
The
Joint
And
Guess
What
They
Watching
And
Casing
You
You're
Being
Stalked
The
Potential
There
Is
That
You
Become
A
Target
For
People
Who
Want
To
Perform
This
Kind
Of
Stuff
So
That
Makes
That's
A
Whole
Another
Scary
Aspect
To
The
Whole
Thing
That
I'm
Sure
People
Probably
Haven't
Thought
Of
Yet
And
I
Mean
It's
A
Very
Real
Possibility
So
You're
Ready
To
Get
RFID
Chip
Now
Aren't
You
I
Definitely
I'm
Going
To
Get
It
Stuck
Right
In
My
Ass
Alright
Well
I don't
know if
It's
The
Size
Of
A
Piece
Of
Rice
I
Guess
You
Probably
Could
Put
It
Anywhere
And
That
Might
Prevent
People
From
Stealing
It
Like
I
Might
Have
Suggested
Because
I'm
Sure
Not
Going
Down
There
For
It
That's
Just
My
Preference
And
Let's
See
One
Other
Story
I
Have
A
Bunch
Of
Small
Topics
Let's
Just
Do
One
Or
Two
More
Of
Them
Quickly
One
More
From
This
Popular
Science
And
Then
I'll
Probably
Start
Wrapping
It
Up
And
This
One
Was
A
Section
Called
Is
Linux
Ready
For
You
Geeks
Have
Loved
It
For
Years
But
The
Open
Source
OS
Alternative
Finally
But
Is
The
Open
Source
OS
Alternative
Finally
Easy
Enough
For
The
Rest
Of
Us
And
Quickly
What
This
Basically
Did
There
Were
Such
A
Thing
Low
End
Being
A
Free
Distro
Medium
Range
And
A
High
End
Distro
And
On
The
Low
End
They
Referred
To
SUSE
9.1
That's
The
One
They
Recommended
Said
It
Was
Very
Good
Gave
It
A
Lot
Of
Good
Comments
Without
Going
Into
Too
Much
Detail
They
Just
Talked
About
What
It
Came
With
Open
Office
Adobe
Acrobat
Blah
Some
Of
That
Kind
Of
Stuff
And
The
Support
That
Again
Most
Of
Our
Listeners
Know
So
That's
On
The
Low
End
And
On
The
Medium
Range
They
Mention
Xandros
2.5
Linux
In
A
Box
They
Refer
To
It
Which
Apparently
Is
89
Bucks
That
Used
To
Be
Caldera
Is
That
Correct
Oh
Really
I
Think
That
Is
No
Not
Caldera
I
Sorry
Corel
Okay
Yeah
Didn't
Corel
Have
Caldera
Was
Purchased
Or
At
Least
Owned
Originally
By
SCO
Dum
Ah
There
You
That's
Right
I
Had
The
Name
Wrong
I
Think
It
Was
Corel
Didn't
Corel
Try
To
Make
Linux
At
One
Point
And
They
Did
I
Guess
It
Became
This
And
Basically
What
They
Mention
On
This
One
And
What
Made
A
Difference
Was
That
It's
89
Bucks
It's
A
Shrink
Wrapped
Ready
To
Go
Out
Of
The
Box
Not
To
Mention
It
Also
Came
I
Think
It
Was
90
Days
Support
Or
60
Days
Limited
Tech
Support
Out
Of
The
Box
As
Well
So
Of
Course
They
Gave
It
Some
Points
For
That
Because
Again
The
Question
Is
It
Ready
For
The
Typical
User
And
Support
Is
Something
That
New
Users
To
Links
Are
Going
To
Need
So
Is
It
Worth
89
Bucks
You
Know
That
Is
Debatable
Again
And
On
Their
High
End
They
Are
Expensive
They
Actually
Talked
About
The
Walmart
Box
That
Comes
Preloaded
With
Linspire
Formerly
Lindos
And
They
Talked
About
How
You
Can
Buy
A
Box
From
Walmart
That
Already
Comes
Pre
Installed
With
Linspire
Which
Is
I
Guess
A
Linux
Distro
However
I
Can't
Say
Enough
Bad
Things
I
Mean
I
Can't
I
Hate
Linspire
Worse
Than
I
Hate
Microsoft
Because
They're
Trying
To
Charge
For
Something
That's
Free
And
It's
Not
Good
And
It's
I
I'll
Give
Them
That
They
Do
Charge
But
For
Instance
Their
Annual
Price
To
Download
Packages
Which
Still
Is
Ridiculous
But
It's
Only
Like
Five
Or
Ten
Dollars
It's
Not
Bad
I
Don't
Know
I'll
Read
You
Some
I'll
Read
You
Some
The
Numbers
Here
That
They
Claim
Again
I
Don't
Know
For
Sure
Because
I
Wouldn't
Use
It
I
Actually
Want
To
Try
It
Just
To
See
If
It's
Really
I'm
Missing
Something
But
I
Doubt
It
But
They
Basically
Roasted
Because
They
Did
Try
To
Charge
For
Every
Little
Thing
That
You
Needed
Or
Try
To
Download
It
Etc
And
They
Even
Actually
Told
People
Not
To
Go
With
This
They
Actually
Recommended
Against
It
This
Is
Popular
Science
They
Are
Usually
Pretty
Open
Minded
And
They
Actually
Rented
People
Recommended
That
People
Just
Get
SUSE
9.1
For
Free
Or
Some
Other
Free
Distro
And
Instead
Of
Buying
This
Box
Freeloaded
With
Linspire
They
Said
Put
A
Couple
Hundred
Bucks
Extra
Into
It
And
Download
The
Free
Version
You
Know
And
Avoid
Linspire
Completely
Now
In
The
Article
It
Let's
See
It
Choked
On
A
Simple
Word
File
Saying
I
Needed
An
Excel
Compatible
Program
That
Was
For
Sale
On
Linspire's
Website
For
$75
Then
It
Suggested
I
Sign
Up
For
A
$5
Per
Month
Membership
To
Get
Software
In
The
Future
Oh
And
If
I
Wanted
To
Run
Windows
Programs
That
Would
Be
Another
$90
So
Yeah
They
Basically
Roasted
It
Saying
It
Wanted
Money
For
Every
Little
Thing
If
You
Wanted
The
Same
Functionality
That
You
Could
Have
Gotten
For
Free
With
SUSE
9.1
Or
Any
Number
Of
Other
Distros
Of
Course
But
In
This
Article
SUSE
9.1
Personal
Edition
Well
With
Any
Free
Linux
That
Has
A
Decent
Package
Management
System
That
Handles
Dependencies
On
It
Own
Yes
I
Know
Red
Hat
Was
Nice
Back
In
The
Day
But
Debian
App
Or
Dare
I
Say
Portage
My
First
And
Only
Love
I
Mean
There's
No
Reason
To
Try
To
Go
Get
You
Know
To
Pay
For
These
Especially
With
Linspire
Because
That's
What
You're
Paying
That
Five
Dollars
Per
Month
It's
Basically
The
Ability
For
You
To
Do
App
Get
And
Get
Their
Customized
Packages
Yeah
I
Was
Going
To
Say
I
Mean
App
Is
The
Way
To
Go
So
Yeah
It's
Linspire
Is
Just
Not
A
Not
That
I've
Used
It
We
Had
A
Client
Who
Was
Using
It
Just
To
Cover
My
Ass
On
That
One
Sure
Right
Whatever
I'll
Do
One
More
Quick
Thing
Here
A
Cool
Website
That
I
Found
It's
Called
Clusty
Dot
Com
C
L
U
S
T
Y
Clusty
Like
Crusty
The
Clown
Clusty
The
Clown
Clusty
Dot
Com
New
Search
Engine
Supposedly
To
Compete
With
Google
Of
Course
Every
Search
Engine
Says
That
Every
Search
Engine
Comes
Out
Says
Yeah
We're
Going
To
Compete
With
Google
We've
Got
Blah
Well
This
One
I
Thought
Was
Really
Cool
And
I've
Talked
About
The
Same
People
That
Made
This
Made
Another
Engine
Called
Vivissimo
Which
I
Had
Mentioned
On
A
Show
A
Long
Time
Ago
And
How
Much
I
Like
That
Vivissimo
Being
A
Clustering
Engine
And
I've
Liked
It
I
Still
Use
It
To
This
Day
Vivissimo
And
It's
Not
Really
A
Search
Engine
It's
A
Clustering
Engine
Vivissimo
That
Is
Where
And
I'm
Just
Kind
Of
Reminding
People
What
It
Did
That
Was
Different
And
That
I
Liked
Was
It
Searched
Multiple
Search
Engines
Brought
All
The
Results
Back
To
Vivissimo
And
Clustered
Them
Together
By
Topic
So
It
Helped
You
Refine
Broad
Searches
More
Easily
You
Can
Find
Things
Tied
To
A
Topic
And
Threaded
If
That's
A
Good
Way
To
Describe
It
Or
Not
But
Threaded
Search
Results
So
I
Always
Liked
The
Clustering
Aspect
Of
Vivissimo
But
Again
It
Was
Getting
Results
From
Google
And
From
Alta
Vista
And
From
All
These
Other
Search
Engines
Out
There
And
Clustering
Those
Together
Well
The
Same
People
That
Made
That
Have
Now
Made
This
Engine
Again
Clusty.com
C-L-U-S-T-Y
And
If
You
Go
Out
There
And
Use
It
Just
A
Couple
Times
You'll
Realize
That
It's
Very
Similar
To
Vivissimo
In
That
It
Clusters
The
Results
And
I've
Always
Liked
That
However
The
Difference
Is
That
The
Clusty
With
Clustered
Results
So
Instead
Of
Clustering
Other
People's
And
Other
Search
Engines
Results
I
Guess
They
Realized
How
Successful
That
Was
And
What
A
Good
Idea
It
Was
Now
They've
Made
Their
Own
Engine
And
Yeah
I mean
Quite
Frankly
It
Never
Used
It
But
I'm
Using
It
Right
Now
And
I
Do
Like
The
Way
It
Groups
The
Results
Yeah
I
Like
The
Clustering
Because
It
Helps
You
Then
Focus
Things
Down
Because
Even
If
You've
Got
A
Precise
Search
Term
You
Still
May
Not
You
Still
May
Get
An
Overwhelming
Number
Of
Hits
On
It
So
Gosh
I
Can't
Make
Up
An
Example
Off
The
Top
Of
My
Head
But
You
May
Find
Your
Search
Term
Is
Surprisingly
Associated
Is
Their
Lyrics
In
The
Song
For
Example
And
You
Didn't
Even
Know
That
When
You
Went
Searching
Well
This
Is
Actually
Funny
That
You
Say
That
The
First
Thing
I
Searched
For
Was
The
Word
Asterix
Security
The
Fifth
Hit
On
This
Or
The
Fifth
Group
Is
Microsoft
Yeah
So
If
You
Were
Looking
For
Aster
Security
And
As
More
Precise
Hits
So
That's
What's
Cool
About
It
I
Think
That's
A
Really
Cool
Engine
And
I'm
Going
To
Start
Using
It
A
Little
Bit
I
Don't
Know
If
It's
Going
To
Replace
Google
Or
Anything
But
I
Might
Start
Trying
It
More
Often
I
Still
Like
I
Go
To
Vivisimo
When
I
Want
To
See
What
Kind
Of
The
Thing
About
The
Clustering
Engine
Is
I
Like
To
See
How
It
Clusters
Sometimes
I'll
Do
A
Vanity
Search
On
Vivisimo
And
Now
On
Clusty
To
See
What
They
Have
Stank
Dog
Associated
With
You
Know
If
I
See
Stank
Dog
In
A
Cluster
Called
Binary
Revolution
Hey
That's
Great
You
Know
That's
Cool
I'm
On
There
You
Know
My
Name
Is
Probably
All
Over
The
Damn
Thing
If
I
See
It
Under
I
Don't
Know
Clown
Erotica
And
There's
14
Hits
With
The
Word
Stank
Dog
Wait
A
Minute
Something's
Fishy
Here
That
Wasn't
Supposed
To
Get
Out
I
Mean
That
Wasn't
Supposed
To
Exist
Well
This
Is
Actually
Kind
Of
Cool
The
Fact
That
You
Can
Expand
Upon
One
Of
The
Groups
And
Then
Have
Sub
Groups
And
You
Can
Get
For
instance
Let
Go
Back
To
Asterix
Security
Real
Quick
You
For
instance
Voice
Over
IP
And
Then
You
Get
Other
Sub
Groups
And
These
Are
Expandable
Like
Voip
Info
Dot
Or
You
Can
Expand
Those
Even
Further
This
Is
Actually
Kind
Of
Nice
I
Think
I'm
In
Love
Yeah
It's
Like
It's
Like
Browsing
Through
Your
Results
Instead
Of
Digging
Through
Your
Results
You
Know
It's
Kind
Of
Cool
So
Why
Don't
We
End
On
That
Note
That's
Good
Note
That's
A
Cool
Site
For
Everybody
To
Check
Out
Again
C
L
U
S
T
Y
Dot
Com
Clusty
Dot
Com
So
Go
Check
It
Out
And
Let's
Jump
Into
Shout
Outs
I
Already
Started
So
Let
Let me
Go
Ahead
And
Finish
I
Gave
Shout
Outs
To
Acidus
For
Reasons
Mentioned
Earlier
Shout
Outs
To
El
Diablo
Again
Thank
You
Down
In
Miami
And
Shouts
Out
To
Disposable
And
He
Knows
Why
So
What
Do
You
Got
What
Kind
Of
Shouts
You
Got
Shouts
To
Anybody
Who
Makes
It
The
Freak
Nick
In
Two
Weeks
We
Got
For
Like
Last
Year
It's
Going
To
Be
Nice
People
Flying
In
People
Picking
Us
Up
Yes
This
Is
The
Voodoo
How
Show
For
Service
Exactly
I
Guess
That's
It
I
Don't
Really
Talk
To
Anybody
Or
Done
Anything
Yeah
But
Hopefully
That's
Going
To
Change
You
Know
You
Had
Business
Things
To
Take
Care
Of
And
Life
Things
You
Kind
Of
Temporarily
Unplugged
And
We're
Plugging
You
Back
In
Whether
You
Like
It
Or
Not
You
Are
Back
In
Feedback
You
Got
An
Email
For
Send
It
To
Radio
At
Bin
Rev
dot
Com
And
Send
Sting
Dog
At
Bin
Rev
Dot
Com
Yeah
And
Closing
Music
Tonight
Is
From
Ming
And
FS
It's
Called
Hijack
The
Disco
Little
Breakbeat
Track
A little
Techno
Breakbeat
Deal
And
That
Is
Going
To
Do
It
So
I'm
Going
To
Close
Up
The
Show
Because
I've
Got
So
Incredibly
Much
Editing
To
Do
On
This
Episode
Of
The
Show
We
Actually
I
Mean
We
Might
As
Well
Explain
Because
It's
Going
To
Be
Pretty
Spliced
Together
In
Case
People
Are
Wondering
Why
We
Laughing
So
Much
At
The
Beginning
And
Why
We
Were
So
Disoriented
During
This
Show
Is
Because
Someone
One
Of
The
Two
Of
Us
I
Won't
Say
Who
But
Someone
Was
At
Work
Recording
This
Which
Has
Never
Been
A
Problem
In
The
Past
But
For
Some
Reason
Today
I
Love
Customers
Yeah
I
Mean
On
That
Note
We're
Gonna
Tell
Everybody
That
We
Will
See
Them
Next
Week
Same
Hack
Time
Same
Hack
Channel
You're Miami
Perverted
My
Ass
For
Real
For
Real
For
Real
For
Real
For
Real
One
Two
One
Two
Turn
It
Turn
It
Pioneer
Come
On
Yeah
Junk
Yard
Straight
Out
It
Come
On
It
Yeah
Come
On
We
Got
It
Time
To
Make
You
Move
Your
Feet
Every
Day
Seven
Days
A
Week
The
Junk
Start
To
Make
You
Reach
Your
Beat
Make
It
F
Yo
Drop
That
Beat
Back
Hi Jack
This is a warning
Hi Jack
Wait for the signal
Joke Yard
Hi Jack
Hey you think that's funky right there
Wait for the signal
Warning
Hi Jack
Oh my goddess
Listen
Hi Jack
Lock all the doors
Nobody move, nobody get hurt
Inside the arena, live and direct
Mingan FS
Hips the magic
Dulu
The sound of the joke y'all
Og Impact
We're going to do a straight
Hi Jack
We're going to do a different
We're going to make the laugh
And the female
Al Moh toen
We're going to do a different
Hijack
Disco
Hijack
Hi Jack.
Let's talk.