This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers.
I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you
in a fag pose.
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho, cause I'm riding the net in my six foe.
I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable.
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo. On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero.
In a flash, I'll school you on burning dream cats.
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle.
Our exchange you could never stifle.
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug.
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z.
Your CG, it's all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely.
You feel that rattling your bones? When I tell you we just hacked out Jones?
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back?
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals.
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RAMs, SIFs, SISs.
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack.
And welcome everyone to Binary Revolution Radio, episode 69.
We are coming to you on November 9th, 2004.
That's a Tuesday.
And this episode is a little bit different than any of the previous ones
because your host tonight is not going to be Stank Dog.
Stank Dog is not on the episode tonight.
This special episode 69 has actually got a new co-host, me, Buck Dangler.
And joining me, in case you don't recognize that voice, is none other than Mr. Pink.
All of my favorite things is pink, baby.
But this is not just a sausage party.
Oh, no, no, no.
Well, hell no.
We could not bring you an episode without having yet another co-host.
This is the first time we've had a third co-host on the show.
And what better way to start it than with the one and only Juicy Julie.
Boo, I'm so hot to be here.
And we are hot to have you here.
Oh, yeah.
Now, first of all, I should apologize that my voice is a little off today.
I've been sick.
So I'm going to do the best I can.
And Mr. Pink here is going to help me out.
And let's take care of a little bit of housekeeping here at the beginning, though.
First of all, of course, everybody knows that last week we were not on
because we were preempted for a live election show.
So, obviously, that means this week the elections are over.
Like it or not, like the results or not, it's done.
And that's all we're going to say about the matter because, frankly, the elections are not hot.
They're not hot at all.
Do you think that – is there anything even hot, remotely hot, about the presidential election there, Julie?
No, I do not think so.
I agree.
So we're not going to go into that at all.
You don't – baby, you don't think – Julie, you don't think the – that John Kerry is just a stud?
No, I think Bush is kind of a stud.
Well, who doesn't like Bush?
Oh, I love – well, actually, I don't love Bush.
Well, and –
My girls need to trim it up, baby.
A nice trimmed Bush is acceptable.
I need it – I need it bald.
This pink needs to see some pink.
If you do – if you do actually want to hear and discuss and talk about the election, among a lot of other interesting topics,
you should probably head on over to a new show that is to be upcoming on Rant Radio, if I understand correctly, called The Mind War.
Yeah, that's actually hosted by myself – well, no, that's not hosted by Mr. Pink.
Right.
That's hosted by another guy named Decoder.
Some – yeah, some – some retard.
This new guy named Decoder.
Yeah, that's hosted by Decoder, Rigel Five, Doug, and some other guests, I guess, mixed in there as well.
Yeah, we got revolving cast of characters.
They – they have a revolving cast of characters.
They – excuse me there.
Yeah, I'm losing my mind over here.
The Mind War.
Dot com.
So check them out.
Psychological warfare and propaganda.
And there's nothing hot about that either.
Actually, it is kind of hot.
Well, okay.
Also, in the housekeeping, I got a couple shouts to get out here at the beginning as it relates to our Distributed.net team
because this past week, the Distributed.net team broke into the top 100 on D-Net.
So, we have to – have to give some shouts out here because there's a couple people in particular that have driven us to that point.
Big shouts to E. Wiggin.
He's putting up huge numbers in a very short period of time.
He's going to hit probably number two on our team list very, very soon.
And possibly number one at the rate he's going.
Of course, number one, we have to give out more shouts to Bob Nino.
And as long as we're talking about him, all of the Mac guys, Pixel Fiend, all the guys that are using Mac.
Logan 5, those Macs are putting up big numbers.
So, shouts to them and everybody that's putting up numbers for Distributed.net.
This is a cool group project that we like doing.
So, we're actually putting up numbers, again, on par with the top 50.
So, we're going to keep going and try to break into the top 50.
It's going to take a little bit of time, but eventually, we're going to get into the top 50.
I'm sorry for interrupting there, stanked Angler.
I mean, bugged Angler.
But why do the Mac guys have such big numbers?
Is there something I'm missing about that?
Well, I mean, anybody can tell you.
Julie, I mean, you can back me up on this.
Bigger is always better.
Yeah, see, that's what I thought.
See, the Macs put out big, big numbers just because the architecture of their processors
can turn the numbers faster, at least in this particular application.
Okay, well, I've never used a Mac, unfortunately.
I hope to use one soon.
The G4s and G5s just really crunch numbers better than the current generation of Pentiums.
Yeah, I've been thinking about trying to pick up a G4 on eBay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, now, let's get into some email, if you don't mind.
So, we're going to play a little email theme music here.
Is it the, uh, bow, ticka, bow, bow?
Yeah, well, there you go.
That is our, we'll use that.
That is our email theme music.
Oh, yeah, that's it right there.
Brought to you by Mr. Pink.
Mailman.
Now, our first email tonight comes from someone who goes by the name ToneDeaf, T-0-N-E-D-E-P-H,
by the way.
I kind of like that.
I think that's a pretty cool name.
That's pretty cool.
Who says, sup?
I just watched the Hack TV download.
I thought you guys did a great job.
You actually took the time to explain what you were doing and how it works.
That's a big step on other hacker videos I've seen.
What other hacker videos?
Anyway, the only complaint...
The only complaint I have is the actors.
Those guys were pretty ugly.
You should hire some better looking actors.
I think we said from the beginning that, uh, the guys, well, especially the guy who plays
you in Hack TV.
Who, me, Buck Dangler?
I mean, excuse me.
Buck Dangler's not in Hack TV.
The guy who portrays the role of Stank Dog.
Yeah, the actor that plays Stank Dog was pretty, he was pretty, pretty foobar.
Yeah, he's kind of hard on the eyes.
Yeah, he was pretty, did you, did you know, I mean, Julie, did you happen to see that?
Did you notice the size of the bulge in that guy's pants, though?
Ooh, that's so hard.
I'm just saying, the dude looked like he was hung.
That's all I'm saying.
Oh yeah, he was packing a nine-banger, or better.
I'm saying he had nine, well, never mind.
He was definitely packing a nine-banger, at least.
Yeah, exactly.
So, um, no, of course he is joking, and he, uh, he did say that in the email, but.
They call him, they used to call him Stretch, and not because he's tall.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, this, um, this is Hack TV.
It's not pretty.
It's not gonna be pretty.
Uh, if you want, if you want that, go buy the Hacksource.
The H-A-X-X-DVD.
I wish I knew the URL to get out of that, but, um.
Hacks, triple X, O-R, H-A-X-X-O-R dot com or something, or dot org or something.
Yeah, something like that.
Hacksource.
If you do a search for H-A-X-X-X-Zero-R-S, I think you'll get it.
Maybe a Z.
Nobody knows.
Yeah.
But, well, maybe we should do that with Hack TV.
Maybe that'll, maybe we need to get a bunch of hot, naked chicks dumpster diving.
Dumpster diving?
Yeah, that was on, that was on the Hacksource DVD.
Was it?
Yeah.
I didn't see it.
So, we're gonna put that into the, uh, the, um, suggestion bag, and we're gonna consider
that for the next episode.
Get better actors.
Yeah.
I'm gonna get, um, Brad Pitt to play Stank Dog next time.
Because I want somebody that...
You know, that's what you were gonna do from the beginning.
Yeah, I want somebody who actually looks like Stank Dog, and Brad Pitt or...
Dean Cain could probably play the role of Stank Dog.
Yeah, some hot...
I mean, Julie, who's some hot guys that you think could play that role and actually pull
it off?
Yeah, hot guys besides that guy Decoder, of course.
Yeah.
Tom Cruise.
Tom Cruise, that's a good one, yes.
He's about three feet tall, and he's a Scientologist, though.
That kind of excludes him.
Well, we won't, we won't ask him about his, uh, religious, science, pseudo-religion...
The cult.
Yeah.
We won't bring up the cult.
All right.
Him and Travolta can talk about that in the, in their dressing room or whatever.
Um, okay, now let's move on to another email, another short email here that says, oh, and
this, I'm sorry, this is from Freeze.
He says, just wanted to let you know that I'm too damn lazy to download any file I want
from your site manually, so I'm just going to teleport it.
Great site, keep it up, especially Hack TV.
It could be huge.
And, of course, Julie, I mean, you've got to back me up here.
I mean, they like it huge.
They like it huge, especially downloading the hard drive.
Oh, yeah, you've got to love that.
Um, yeah, actually, Hack TV might be huge if I get off my dead ass and actually get it
done, get it, do it.
But, um, I am actually dedicating some time.
I've got the holidays coming up.
I'm going to have some time off.
Um, I'm sorry, Stank Dog is going to have some time off.
Buck Dangler don't take a vacation.
Buck Dangler don't stop from nobody.
That's right.
I got boots to knock and asses to rock.
Oh, yeah.
So, uh, I got, I don't know where that came from.
Um, so Stanko's got some time off over the holidays and he's going to be working on it.
And, uh, hope, get at least an episode of it done.
I've got some footage, I mean, he's got some footage already recorded.
And, um.
Can we just kill that whole fucking shit?
No, that's.
Remember.
We're going to go with it.
Um, I, I, I want to mention, I kind of, I've lost my video guy, unfortunately.
That's one of the things that slowed this down.
Um, and I learned a lot of it myself.
I'm going to be doing it myself this time from now on.
So, hopefully I learned enough from watching him and playing along with him and learning
it.
Who was doing the video?
Uh, Saito was doing the video.
What happened to Saito?
He is unable to do it now.
Uh-huh.
So, um.
Real life is up to you sometimes.
Exactly.
And it's a real life, yeah.
Involves a ring on a finger.
Ah.
So, yeah.
Shouts to him.
Yeah, shouts to Saito, man.
I gave him shouts last time.
I mean, Decoder, I think, gave him shouts last time he was on this particular program
for the video.
Yeah.
He did good stuff.
And hopefully.
That was fucking good shit.
If I learned from it, hopefully I'll be able to pull off something close anyway.
Yep.
And just in case anybody doesn't know what he meant when he said teleport it, he's referring
to this offline browsing tool, a web spider, whatever you want to call it.
Um, basically like a WGET where it goes out and gets all the files, um, spiders through
them and downloads them so you can browse them locally.
So, he was using that to go out and grab all the files.
So, if you are actually interested and want to check that out, it's at TenMax, T-E-N-M-A-X.com
if you want to check that out.
Sounds like some hot shit.
Yeah, unless, unless he's referring to a different one, but that's the teleport that I know.
So, uh, you can check that out if you're interested.
Now, uh, I've got a couple more.
I've got, here's an email from Mad Hatter.
Mad Hatter 22.
He says, I've recently discovered your show and have listened to season two in the last few
days at work.
The show was great and made work pass right by.
The only reason I gave your show a chance is because it met my criteria of MP3 format and
your mutant ability to cuss like a truck driver, which, yes, I have to pat myself on the back.
I'm pretty good about that, but I'm trying to keep it calm today.
I'm trying to keep it cool.
I got my, like, default radio, those old episodes, if you're into that.
Those are pretty rough.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, that, that was definitely.
I'm not even going to get into that.
That's how I never realized that I sounded like that.
If you, uh, if you tried to edit that for actual FCC consumption, it would be a constant
beep.
You just can't.
It would be a constant beep the entire show.
It might as well just be milliwatt radio and just play a milliwatt.
Yeah.
Um, I'm very happy that if you go to AUG format, you said you'd keep the MP3s on your site, which,
yes, I absolutely, of course, because a lot of people, frankly, they just can't or won't
use AUG.
Why not?
Um, some, there's not, um, not all players.
You can play it in WinApp, and if you're not using WinApp, then you're some kind of noob,
and you shouldn't even be allowed on the internet.
No, that's not true.
See, that's why we, we don't mind.
We want noobs listening so that they can learn and not be noobs anymore.
We're not using WinApp.
Well, they come with, uh, like Dell's come with their own proprietary MP3 player.
People really use that shit?
I don't know, I guess.
I don't know.
It's fucking news to me, but anyway.
I don't know.
Um, and plus don't, let's see, the new version of WinApp has it built in, but the old ones
you had to have a plug-in, I think.
I have nothing wrong with plug-ins, man.
Yeah, well, anyway, so, uh, where was I, see, MP3s.
He says, please do not hold back the necessary swearing.
Products like RealPlayer and AOL deserve both barrels on your inter-world web only show.
I'd also listen to a special rant only show.
P.S. Can you get Alanka, the crypto genius, on the show?
So, MadHatter22, um, this is not, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna,
we're gonna try to control the language a little bit today.
Um, we're gonna go with just the innuendos today.
Um, but, we're gonna have some ranting coming up.
Decoder's gonna take over and do a little bit of ranting, and I'm gonna hop in.
On here?
Is that Mr. Pink?
I'm sorry, did I, what, yeah.
I meant, um, I meant Mr. Pink is going to do some ranting.
Oh, it's funnier the way we keep messing up.
Yeah, that's true.
Mr. Pink is gonna do some ranting on the show, and I, Buck Dangler, am going to join in and help.
And even Juicy Julie occasionally.
I mean, Juicy Julie, are you up for helping us out on the show?
I'm always getting you up.
Oh, that's what I like to hear.
Oh, yeah.
That's what I like to hear.
So, um, we are gonna get to a little bit of ranting.
This is gonna be a pretty good rant show, and Decoder's, uh, pretty good at that.
Now, also, uh, and really the reason I mention this email is because of your request.
You, uh, requested of us getting Alanka on the show.
Now, I met Alanka, um, and she is incredibly, incredibly nice person.
Um, very nice person, and I did contact her about being on the show, so you can look forward to that.
We're gonna get her on here in two or three weeks.
So, um, you know, send in your ideas and suggestions, because here on Binary Revolution Radio, we give the listeners what they want.
Hey, Julie.
I do what I want.
Julie, do you give the listeners what they want?
Anything.
Anything?
All right.
Okay, now, our last email, and Decoder, I'm gonna need your help on this one a little bit, um, because my voice is already starting to give.
Let me take a little sip here.
Yeah, you better do that.
I can hear it.
Yeah, now, let me see if that iced tea helps a little bit.
Now, let me get through this email, because this one's kind of longer.
And, um, this one comes from Binky, and I'll, I'll go ahead and tell you, uh, before I get into the email, that Binky hails from the UK.
He's writing from England over there across the pond.
Yeah, pals across the pond.
Hell yeah.
So, he says, Stank, of course, that's not me, but I'm passing this on.
I am Buck Dangler.
Wait, did you, are you reading Stank's email?
Stank forwarded it to me.
Oh, okay, I was gonna say, you're some sort of, like, lead hacker.
He forwarded it to me.
He knew this was episode 69, and that I was gonna be hosting it, so he went ahead and forwarded all these to me.
I hear you, man.
So, um, Stank will be back next week, hopefully with his normal voice working again.
But you and Stank are both sick.
Yeah, it's amazing.
I don't know how that works.
How old do you live together?
Um, oh yeah, I bet you do.
Don't ask, don't tell.
I hear you.
Okay, so, Binky says, Stank, just listening to BinRev65, and you opened with the clip of the BBC,
and you went on to talk about it being less slanted and biased than Fox or CNN.
I call it the Beeb.
The Beeb.
That's what I call it.
I've heard this a lot, and whether it is or not, in my opinion, it can be biased,
because it's pretty much controlled by the British government.
I've heard this talked about a few times.
I think you might have mentioned it before, and I know Sean Kennedy has talked about it on one of his shows before.
But what I've never heard mentioned is how the BBC works, which is my little rant, me being British.
It only affects us, but this is something others should bear in mind before praising the BBC.
I don't know about how it works over in the UK, since I'm not there, but I don't think anyone says that the BBC isn't slanted.
It's just vastly less slanted than the American news media.
And just because fucking Fox News and NBC and CNN aren't technically run by the fucking government,
don't think for a split motherfucking second that there isn't a knowledge filter and a news filter in this country.
If the government, for whatever reason, doesn't want something on the news, and for good reasons and for bad reasons sometimes,
you know, like, they can't tell you, there might be a reporter over in Iraq right now with these special forces over in Fallujah,
you know what I'm saying?
And they're not going to put that on the news right away, because this is like secret shit, you know what I'm saying?
So there's always going to be a filter, always.
All that anybody's trying to say is that the BBC, and we get BBC America and the US, it's probably not even the same thing.
But all that we're trying to say is that it's less slanted, much less, all right?
All right.
Now, and he kind of explains why it does have the potential to be slanted here.
He says, first, the BBC doesn't carry advertising, which is a good thing, he points out.
Yeah, it's definitely a good thing.
Well, let me tell you.
This is Binary Revolution Radio.
This is a fucking hacker show, okay?
I'm pretty fucking sure, although, like I said, I can't be positive because I do not live in the UK.
I would like, I hope, you know, I'm going to talk to somebody from the UK this week, as a matter of fact, about this,
because I didn't, I was actually unaware of this, that you had to pay TV licensing or whatever.
But I'm pretty fucking sure that there's a way around that, you know?
Like, there has to be, there has to be a way around that.
Well, I'll tell you what, let's, the next section actually kind of talks about it, and we can think about it after that.
Okay.
And, and yes, we're, we're a hacking, we're a show about hacking and bicycles, just.
And bicycles.
The number of times I hear, excuse me, he goes on to say, the number of times I hear Sean Kay going on about a listener license on the after now,
we pretty much already have that.
You have no choice but to pay the license fee if you want to own a receiver, and if you want cable, you have to pay for cable and for a license too.
If you don't pay, your name goes on a database, and so they say they have detector vans that somehow can tell if you have a TV or not.
But I think they just knock on the doors of houses who don't have licenses and search to see if they own a TV or not.
Is it really like, I don't think that fucking really happens.
He says either way, it's an invasion of privacy if I ever heard one, which is true.
Is the fucking TV police come and knock on your door to see if you've got a telly in your house?
I don't know.
That's what they call it over there, a telly.
I don't know.
I don't know if this is true or not.
Maybe some of our other, I know we have other listeners in England that can verify this for us, so.
I've never heard of such a thing.
Well, we're not in England, so we really wouldn't have.
Yeah, but I speak to, you know, I don't necessarily speak to a million people over in the UK, but I speak to quite a few people in the UK.
Okay, and while I can say that this particular topic of television has never really came up, I find it kind of hard to believe that for some reason I wouldn't know about this.
I definitely talked to a few people in the UK, and maybe the people in the UK don't realize that us in the States don't have to do that.
Yeah, I mean, it's not something that comes up in normal conversation, I would imagine.
Well, yeah, you're kind of right.
As a licensed player, the only benefit I can see for paying this is that the BBC is advertisement-free,
or is it because when I come out to the States and watch BBC America or wherever I watch BBC World or BBC International channels, they run advertising.
No matter how many channels they produce, they're still making money on selling advertising,
and it makes me sick that even if I do not want to watch CNN or any of the hundreds of cable satellite channels,
I still have to pay the BBC when 99% of their content is pure crap.
And if you don't believe me, go to www.bbc.co.uk slash Nottingham, N-O-T-T-I-N-G-H-A-M.
Like the sheriff of Nottingham?
Right, Robin Hood, straight out of here.
Oh, yeah.
This is my local radio station, and it's so poor, I can't believe I'm forced to pay to fund this.
It's so exciting and informative.
I'd sooner listen to a sine wave, I love that, sooner listen to a sine wave rather than the pervert on a BBC phone
and moaning about the fact that he bought a house next to the local tip because he was so dumb
and didn't realize rotting rubbish smells like robbing rubbish.
I guess local tip must mean dump.
I think it must be a British slang.
Perhaps.
And he feels the need to share and express his dumbass mistake.
So that's my rant, and as you showed, they put all hackers in the same box,
just as CNN, Fox, Sky, MSNBC, Euronews, and all the other biased corporate broadcasters.
The culture of fear is gradually taking over the UK,
the same as the US and the BBC are certainly playing their part.
Well, they're not as bad.
I hope you enjoyed your first week off since the year dot.
Well, they're not as bad.
The BBC is not as bad as Fox motherfucking News or MSNBC or anybody else.
Yeah, I can't completely bash the people that gave us Ali G and American Idol.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
But it's not even that.
Like, I listen to that episode.
You're going to let me get away with the American Idol?
Yeah, American Idol was a dope show.
I watch it all the time.
All right, fucking, I have no problem admitting that.
American Idol was the shizzle.
But anyway, I happen, you know, even though I've been offline for a little while,
I did get the opportunity to listen to episode 65 when it came out, I think.
And I heard the intro.
Why have you been offline for a while, Mr. Pink?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore anyway.
Fuck up.
But anyway, I did get an opportunity to listen to that, okay?
They don't have computers in the porn industry where you're at?
No, no, they don't.
Sorry.
Juicy, Julie, do they have computers in the porn industry where you work?
There's always porn.
Always porn.
See, that's what I'm saying.
I don't know what's wrong with Mr. Pink here.
Do you?
No.
Something's not right.
But okay, Mr. Pink, you go ahead.
But anyway, I listened to that, I heard the guy from the Beeb, I heard him talking, you
know, about the hackers at Hope and everything, and it seemed that, from my perception at least,
it seemed that he had the attitude of someone who wasn't quite 100% sure of what was going
on, and it was kind of apparent, and he did put a little bit of a negative slant, but
not so much, but believe me, at least he acted like he wasn't 100% sure about what
what hackers did.
If it was MSNBC or Fox, the evil, evil, evil, look at these guys, fucking stealing from
you, robbing you, fucking you, over-setting you viruses, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Fuck them.
The BBC is a little bit better.
It's not, of course, it's not, it's not independent media, so they're not going to give you the
real story, not as slanted as the American media.
Yeah, I mean, even, um...
I mean, dude, what's the guy's name?
Who wrote that email?
Um, that was Binky.
Okay, Binky.
I understand from you, you've been to the States before.
Okay, I've never been to the UK, so maybe I'm just talking out of my ass.
But I have to live here every single day.
I turn the TV, I watch this news every day, and then I listen to BBC radio and watch the
Beeb on TV, and it's so fucking refreshing.
It's not independent media by any means, but it's so much better than what I see every day
in the States.
Maybe I'm biased.
Maybe I'm biased towards the American media.
You know what I'm saying?
I could very well be.
But I'm just telling you from my perception, my perspective, that the BBC, I'd much rather
listen to those fuckfaces than MSNBC or CNN.
All right, language.
Talks news.
Language.
Excuse me, I can't help it bad.
Also, um, I mean, I do have to say that he has one point that I do agree with wholeheartedly
if this is true, the fact that, um, if they have, the fact that they have no advertising
on it doesn't give you, I mean, that eliminates one bias.
And I don't know if he, actually, he didn't really refer to that, but I thought of that.
If they don't have advertising, you don't get biased out of fear of losing advertisers
and stuff, which is something else that happens.
And that's another thing.
He says the BBC is owned by the British government, but these, these American, um, news outlets
are owned by these large corporations, like NBC is owned by General Electric.
So when General Electric, General Electric is doing some bad stuff, do you really think
they're going to report that straight?
Oh, of course not.
You know what I'm saying?
No, of course not.
And, and what I don't understand is like, and you know about the licensing fees, right?
And the fact that you have no advertising, but you pay licensing fees.
I don't recall what episode it was, but it was quite a while ago on Radio Freak America.
A friend, Bland Inquisitor, was actually schooling us on something that I'm not sure a lot of
people are aware of, that when cable television, pay cable television came out in the U.S.,
right?
That these cable channels didn't have advertisements.
They had advertisements for the actual channel.
You know, so if you were watching MTV, the only advertisements you were going to see
were advertisements for MTV, something that was coming out later, you know what I'm saying?
Anything like that.
And then slowly but surely, you have regular commercial advertisements on cable television,
shit that you already pay for.
You're already paying money every month for it, and you're getting advertisements on it.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's to the point where, like, how many people realize that TV is even free?
Like, when I cut my cable off because I was sick of paying $50 a month to watch the
History Channel because it's all I really watched, when I cut off my cable, it was
like, man, I forgot that there was free television, just fucking over the airwaves, you know?
You don't get the quality, that's what they claim.
What do you mean?
They say you don't get the same signal quality.
You don't get the same signal quality, you know why?
Not because they can't, because they don't, because they don't want you to get free television.
It's there, you know, it's always been there free, but they don't want you to have it.
But you can't get the porn channels that way either.
Yeah, you can't get the porn channels, you're right.
I can't live without my porn.
I don't know about Juicy Julie, but I can't live without my porn.
Can you?
Oh, of course not.
Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying.
Well, you know, I'm Mr. Pink.
I wonder if they have...
I make my own pornography every night.
I wonder how the porn channels work on the Beeb.
I don't know, I bet you it's that newscaster, the bald guy, just telling you stories.
Is that where the naked news comes from?
Is that from like the...
No, that's from Russia.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, Russia started all that, you know.
It was a pretty good idea.
Let me put, let me give this example of, I mean, basically he's saying that it might be a little less biased than ours, but it's still biased.
Well, it's a lot less.
Right.
But let me give an example.
Let me give an example here.
Okay, go right ahead.
Stank Dog, my good friend, who's brilliant, I might add.
That dude.
Brilliant dude, that guy.
Stank Dog gave a presentation at that Hope Conference, that very Hope Conference.
And some magazines, some trade magazines, his presentation was on the AS400.
And it was very much a, this is what it is and this is how it works.
There was nothing underhanded, dirty, black hat.
Here's how you pwn it.
Yeah, it was nothing all that awful.
I did pwn a machine.
I mean, he did pwn a machine there as part of the presentation, but it did not teach a step-by-step how-to or anything like that.
It was just mostly educating people.
Yeah.
Well, the write-up in American press, from trade magazines to websites to IBM sites, was all about hackers teaching you how to break into the AS400.
Ridiculous.
So, I mean, it's extremely biased here.
It's extremely slanted.
More than biased.
And ignorant.
Well, what it is is it's ignorant.
That's what it is.
To this guy in the UK, bollocks.
The American media is bollocks.
That's the best way for me to tell it to you.
And if the beam is slanted, I bet you it's not pure bollocks.
And if your little local station over there in Nottingham is shit or shite, whatever you want to call it, that's one thing.
That's Nottingham.
What about Manchester?
What about fucking London?
You know, what about places like that?
Yeah.
Hey, as long as I get Red Dwarf reruns, I'm happy.
That's like the worst show ever.
Are you crazy?
I hate that show.
I have every Red Dwarf, and of course I had to buy them Region 2 because they delay releasing them in the United States.
Yeah.
How'd you get around that, by the way?
That's the greatest show in the world.
A Dwarf.
Red Dwarf.
I think it's garbage.
Oh, that show is so good.
Oh, dry, man.
I just...
That's what makes it great.
Come on.
Oh, that's a good show.
That's one of my all-time favorites.
Don't get me wrong.
I like some shows over there from the UK.
I was so happy that they announced that new season.
Screw Red Dwarf.
It's all about Doctor Who.
I couldn't wait for that to come to BBC America.
I was sitting in front of the TV waiting for that to get the new season.
You know, everybody over there...
I didn't think it was all that.
Everybody over there had already seen it, like, twice, three times in reruns before
I finally got it over here.
There's better stuff than Red Dwarf that you just don't see over here.
Um...
Trust me.
Excuse me.
Bless you.
Thank you.
Well, let's wrap up the...
Anyway, yeah, enough of the beeb.
The mailbag there.
And let's move on to...
Wait, can I just say one last thing?
Sure.
The BBC is motherfucking lead.
I'll tell you why.
Because of all those bands that have a fucking CD called Live from the BBC, and it's always
dope.
The Beatles.
David Bowie.
It's always dope.
Bow House.
Dope.
All of it.
Better than MTV Unplugged?
Yeah.
When he retarded?
Of course.
So the beeb is leet.
All right.
Well, like I said earlier, some of our listeners over there across the pond, email us and let
us know if you agree with this, disagree with it.
Did we miss the mark?
Is Mr. Pink bollocks?
Is Mr. Pink...
Is he bollocks or what?
...full of brown?
All right.
Let's close up the mailbag and go into a quick little show and tell, because, again, I'm not
feeling too well, and I'm running a fever, and my voice is about to give out any second.
Show and tell?
That damn Stank Dog made me sick.
Is that what we're doing?
Show and tell?
We're going to do a little show and tell.
Hey, Julie, I've got something to show you.
Are you going to tell?
Of course not.
Is it a secret?
That's right.
Keep it a secret.
Well, my secret is that I have simply been working on some projects with Stank Dog.
He unplugged and is kind of concentrating on getting some projects organized and running.
Some of them have appeared in the forums, trying to get people moving on to something
positive and not bitching about things.
I like to bitch about stuff.
That's all I'm going to say.
And, as you can obviously tell, if you haven't made it abundantly clear through the show,
I don't know what the hell I caught, because I also went to Freaknik in Nashville with Stank.
I don't know what the hell I caught when I was in Nashville.
You and Stank seem to do a lot of things together.
We do.
We're very close.
Do you hold hands when you do these things together?
No, we don't actually hold hands.
No, that is not correct.
Are you just winking at each other, giving each other a look?
All right, right.
All right.
A little pat on the ass.
Hey, now.
A little go team, you know.
Too much information.
Just saying, a little go team, you know, good catch kind of.
Um, but yeah, I, something, I don't know what kind of funk they got in Nashville.
So you got it now.
But I got some kind of Nashville funk that just will not, dude, antibiotics did not kill it.
I don't know what they got going on in Nashville, but I'm not going back.
I bet you a jug of moonshine will just like kill it.
Maybe.
It'll wipe it right out of your system.
A big old jug, triple X on the, you know.
I missed an entire week of work, and I went through two weeks of antibiotics, and I'm still coughing up lung butter.
That's, once again, more information than we've.
It's not, not fun.
Now, hey, hey, Julie, is coughing up lung butter, does that make you hot?
No, I'll make you cough up something.
Oh.
Now.
I'll make you cough up something.
Right.
Oh, now, Mr. Pink, what have you and your friend Decoder been up to lately?
You know, just attending the 2600 meeting over here in New York City.
Is friend the proper term or life partner?
I always get that.
That's right.
I choose to, I plead the fifth on that one.
Matter of fact, it's Mr. Pink.
He just loves the pink.
Ah, gotcha.
He doesn't love the brown?
No, I love the pink, baby.
Oh, okay.
Anything pink.
Decoder loves the brown.
I don't know what he likes.
Anyway.
You know, just this past Friday was, of course, 2600 meeting, and I, you know.
Oh, yeah, good point.
Hung out with a few people, did a few things, you know.
What's his name?
What's his face?
Wasn't there.
Emmanuel, I guess he was out of town.
Yeah, he is actually on the road, as a matter of fact.
On the road again.
I actually know that for a fact.
The world tour.
And, yeah, actually, now that you bring that up, Stank told me to mention on the air,
that, to give shout outs to his 2600 meeting, he is also there, and took some copies of
Blacklisted Magazine and handed out.
Really?
Yep.
The new one's out now?
The new one is out.
I gotta go check if it's at the local...
Tell you what, man.
This Stank dog guy's got an article in this one, too, and I'm telling you, that guy, not
only is he brilliant, not only is he handsome, not only is he hung like a moose, but that
dude can write.
He can write it up.
I'm telling you, he can put it down.
You know, I'll put it to you like this about Blacklisted 411.
Well, we're not going to...
This is not a show about Blacklisted, right?
No, no, I just want to say one quick thing.
All right.
And the same goes for 2600.
Okay, go ahead.
No matter what you think, no matter whether you think it's wheat, or you think it's garbage,
you think it's trash, no matter what, right?
These are still people, quote, in the, quote, community, you know what I'm saying?
And I don't know about any of y'all, but my dumbass goes to the bookstore and pulls out
the green out of my pocket.
The pink pulls the green out, and he drops it on the counter for these magazines.
So the thing is, support it, you know?
2600, Blacklisted 411, in the stores, you know?
And Final Revolution magazine.
Yeah, and you know, the thing is, write articles.
And make it better if you don't...
Yeah, you don't like it?
Write a fucking article.
You know, I'm sick of that shit.
I'm sick of people telling me this shit.
Oh, this sucks, this sucks, that sucks, you know?
Change it.
Yeah, exactly.
You keep this up with the format.
These people, this isn't motherfucking.
These aren't some publisher guys in some big golden office, you know?
These are guys who want your feedback.
If you don't like Blacklisted 411, you got a problem with it, send them an email.
Say, like, look, here's how you make it better.
Maybe they'll listen to you.
Maybe they won't.
But the point is, drop the dollars.
Yeah, don't, and that, you know what?
And that, don't bitch and complain, make it better, applies to a lot of other things.
Not only the magazines.
And not just magazines, but everything.
Your whole entire life.
Preach on, brother.
You know?
I just wanted to make the point that regardless of what I...
You know, maybe I like the magazines, maybe I don't, but I still buy them.
Yeah.
Just because.
Maybe that, maybe I'm being all that high and mighty, saying that I support, I'm underground.
It's five or six bucks every three months.
Come on.
Oh my God, I'll break the fucking bank.
No.
You know?
That's two beers.
No, you're making money off of hacking where the information should all be free and...
It should all be free.
This magazine, it's a print magazine that you hold in your hand, all right?
The information is free, and the paper costs you money.
The printing costs you money.
The graphics costs you money.
Buy it.
Yeah, but you should put it online for free, too, for people to download.
But you don't.
I know.
That's what I hear all the time.
Well, you know what?
My idea, this has gone off into a huge tangent.
I'm sorry about this.
You were right.
Maybe I shouldn't have, but I just wanted to get that out.
But I am going to say this.
My idea, and this was originally for 2600.
This was before Binary Revolution, Bin Rev Magazine came out.
That I think, when, let's say, volume, what is it right now?
I'm holding the 2600 right in front of me.
This is volume 21, number three, right?
Well, when volume 22, number one, comes out, I think that volume 21, number one, should
be thrown out PDF on the fucking site.
That's just my personal opinion.
If I was 2600, that's what I would do.
I would push back four issues.
You know what I'm saying?
And boom, PDF on the site.
I'm sorry, so one year delayed?
Is that what you said?
One year delayed.
Or one quarter delayed?
No, one year.
I'm saying that this is right here, the one with the Chinese guy with the AK on the cover.
This is volume 21, number three.
The next one's going to be, you know, so when this is here, when I get this in my hands,
volume 20, number three, which was a year ago, should go up as a PDF.
Well, I, we kind of do something similar to that with BinRev Magazine, and that is...
Why do you put teaser PDFs?
No, no, no.
Yeah, well, we put PDFs, teaser PDFs up right away.
Yeah, which is...
But no...
No one else does that.
One, one issue delayed, one issue delayed, articles from the previous magazine are released
online as text files.
Yeah, the articles as text files.
You don't get all the...
You know, when you buy the magazine, when you pay your good money, when you throw stank
dogs of money on PayPal...
Yeah, which I'm getting rich off by the fucking way.
Yeah, you know, I mean, how much do you...
Go out there, you fucking noobs.
Go out there and try to print up a magazine as the quality of 2600 or the quality of
Binary Revolution.
You know what I'm saying?
Go do that.
And see how much you're going to pay for it.
You think stank dog is getting rich?
Oh, I'm fucking rolling in money.
I sleep on a mattress filled with $100.
Oh, and stank, you don't pay anyone for their articles.
People just submit them.
You know, you don't...
If you want to get paid for the article and stank ain't going to pay you, don't fucking
submit it.
Go cry somewhere else.
Right.
Go submit that shit to Wired and watch them laugh in your face.
Hey, if we make it to store shelves someday, I'll pay for articles.
I'm...
I think that's perfectly fine, but right now we can't.
Yeah, this is an underground community.
Shut the fuck up, everyone.
Just go drop dead or something.
We don't care.
No.
Um...
Well, we care, but I'm tired of hearing it.
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
We're sick of hearing the same shit.
It's like...
We don't have anything nice to say.
Don't say anything at all.
I mean, that's something that everyone's mother should have taught them when they were a year
old.
Well, I don't know.
When do you start talking?
I don't know.
I don't have kids.
I don't know when they start...
Nowadays, they should...
When do they stop pooping themselves?
Stop talking is what I want to know.
Yeah.
When do they stop pooping in their drawer of diapers?
Never.
Because I'm pretty sure the same people who talk shit are still shitting their pants every
day.
We don't care, though.
You know what I'm saying?
You...
If you want to bitch about the magazine costing money, you know what?
Nobody's fucking forcing you to buy it.
You don't want to buy it?
Don't fucking buy it.
Screw yourself.
And don't bitch about, oh, Stank's not paying.
He's taking our articles and making money off of it, and we're not getting paid for it.
Don't fucking submit an article.
Kill yourself.
Submit it to someone else.
Get paid for it.
See if you can get paid for that article.
See if you can get paid for your shitty article that's probably bullshit anyway.
You probably can't write.
It's probably wrong.
Nobody cares.
Get the fuck out of here.
I don't know.
We printed yours.
I hate these people, man.
I'm getting sick of it.
What about people who come in the forums and don't like the forums and hate the drama
and how the forums are going?
Go the fuck away.
Nobody asked you to be there.
Nobody dragged you there.
The point is, this whole fucking thing, everything.
These opinions, of course, are all Mr. Pink.
Huh?
I said these opinions are from Mr. Pink and do not reflect necessarily.
Not necessarily.
They do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Binary Revolution Radio or BinRev.com.
These are my opinions.
But they probably do.
Yeah, they might.
They don't necessarily.
They're probably pretty damn close.
But they might.
Yeah, they're close.
But if Stank Dog were to say him, he's the asshole bad guy for saying it.
Yeah, right.
No.
All I'm saying is, call me an asshole.
I don't care.
This whole thing is supposed to be fun.
And you know what?
Sometimes, you know, real life kicks in and it's not fun anymore.
Some people get in legal trouble.
A lot of shit goes down.
You know what I'm saying?
But at the end of the motherfucking day, it's still supposed to be fun.
You make a magazine because you want to.
I think you love for the fucking, for everything.
You want to, you want to do this.
You know what I'm saying?
You're not going to give it away for free.
You want to print a fucking magazine, a color motherfucking cover.
A good looking magazine, but a BinRev magazine, thanks to Logan Five, who is a fucking
goddamn genius.
The guy's an amazing artist.
You know what I'm saying?
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday to Logan Five, by the way, yesterday.
Birthday, yeah.
Happy birthday, man.
Yesterday was his birthday.
The guy's a phenomenal artist.
Like, let me tell you, when, when, your fucking, BinRev magazine is fucking lead.
I'm not just saying that either, because I'm on this show.
If it was shit, I'd say it's shit.
It's fucking lead.
Okay?
So you people don't want to drop five, six dollars on it, kill yourself.
No one cares.
Take that six dollars, and buy a motherfucking butt plug.
Shove it up there, and shut the fuck up.
Hey, Julie, Juicy Julie, what do you think about that plan?
A butt plug.
Oh, bend me over.
Oh, yeah.
I'm serious, man.
It just pisses me off.
It's supposed to be about fun.
Fun.
Don't start bitching when you don't like something.
Just shut the fuck up.
Or change it.
Help.
Or change it.
Do something about it.
Help.
Or, how about this?
Here's a novel idea.
How about, instead of bitching about it, why don't you pose it in a different way and
say, you know what?
This has kind of been bothering me.
Maybe, you know, maybe other people think the same way, but I think that this could be
done a little different.
Instead of saying, oh, you guys are fucking noobs.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
All right.
Just get fucking real, man.
Seriously.
Jesus.
And for those of you all playing along with how many times does he say fuck?
Yeah.
Keep track on IRC as you play along and listen to this?
Yeah, keep track.
Keep fucking track.
That's one more.
Now, let's move on to our main topic, which is going to drop a few more F-bombs if I
know Decoder well.
I mean, Mr. Pink, Mr. Pink, Mr. Pink.
I haven't been on the radio for a little while.
Yeah.
Except, well, this Mind War thing, you know, but since that's kind of my project and
Rogel's project.
Well, that's Decoder's thing.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, Decoder and Rogel, so they do what they want over there.
But I'm serious, man.
They do what they want.
Oh, they do what they want.
Just like my man.
Lucky 225 does what he wants.
Exactly.
It's still my dog, though.
Lucky is my man, yeah.
That's right.
Don't bring that drama here either.
Yeah, let's move on into our main topic, which is my all-time favorite store, Best Lie.
Best Buy.
And I say that with so much sarcasm that you can't even tell, especially when I'm
so screwed up.
And here's the thing.
I loved Best Buy about two years ago, two to three years ago.
But Best Buy took a turn for the worse in their attitude and the way they started treating
people, and there's a story right now, a recent story in the Wall Street Journal.
Stank, remember you said that.
Remember.
What's that?
Remember you said that you stopped going there a couple of years ago.
I did.
Because they took a turn for the worse.
I want to mention something.
I stopped going there for a couple of reasons, and these reasons are, they're getting even
worse now.
They're announcing intentionally.
They've made it clear and public that what they're doing is, and they're doing it intentionally.
For example, one of the things I stopped going was, A, they got really bad about the
bait and switch.
You know, they advertised something, they've got one when you get there, and it's gone,
and they don't give you a rain check, or they want to fight and argue about the rain
check.
And then even if they give you a rain check, you can't get the same price because the
price is with a rebate, and by the time the rain check comes in, the rebate's expired,
and they won't give it to you at that price.
I don't fuck with rebates anyway.
Yeah, and everything they do is with a rebate.
It used to be you could go in and get something with either what they call the instant rebate,
which is basically a different price.
I don't know why they call it the instant rebate.
There are still some instant rebates.
Yeah, but very few.
Most of them, they want you to mail it in, and they know that most people won't get around
to it.
But some of them are manufacturer's rebates.
They can't really blame Best Buy for that.
Yeah, the biggest thing was, A, they stopped competing on price, which was the only reason
to go there because they offered better prices.
It certainly isn't for the customer service or the super intelligent employees they have
there to answer your questions.
That sure as hell not.
But the biggest thing that pissed me off was when they added this 15% restocking fee.
And you know what?
Before I even go off on a tangent about that, because I don't want to wear my voice out,
I'm just going to start reading a few clips from this article here.
Again, this is from the Wall Street Journal.
Brad Anderson, CEO, Chief Executive Officer of Best Buy Company, is embracing a heretical
notion for a retailer.
He wants to separate the angels, the quote angels, among his 1.5 million daily customers
from the quote devils.
Best Buy's angels are customers who boost profits at the consumer electronics giant by
snapping up high-definition televisions, portable electronics, and newly released DVDs without
waiting for markdowns or rebates.
The devils are its worst customers.
They buy products.
Ooh, that's terrible.
Oh, don't buy shit here, please.
No, no product buying.
That makes you the devil.
Well, they apply for rebates.
Oh, holy crap, that's a terrible customer that actually applies for the rebates that
you offer.
I throw those things out myself.
God forbid you actually follow up on that.
That makes you a bad customer.
And this is what they're defining as devils.
I'm not making this up.
Return the purchases, then buy them back at return to merchandise discounts.
Now, that I agree with.
That I can see.
That I don't have a problem with.
That's a scam.
Yeah, you buy a laptop and break it and then return it and then come back two weeks later
and buy it open box at a discount.
Yeah, I see that.
And I understand that's probably why they try to justify the restocking fee.
But you know what?
They tried to hit me with a restocking fee on something that I bought that was defective
out of the box.
That's ridiculous.
What'd you do about it?
I ended up having to send it in to the manufacturer to honor a rebate, which is a much bigger hassle.
I want to be able to return it to the store.
If I can't return it to the store, I'll buy that shit online.
Did you try to exchange it or return it flat out?
I just wanted to exchange it for a new one.
I would have just bid.
They said that they would have given me a new one.
They said they would have given me a new one, but I also had to pay 15% restocking fee.
I would have told them to go kill themselves.
They sold a defective item.
You call the fucking better business period.
You can't do that.
And they told me that I had to send it back under warranty to the manufacturer.
It was a hard drive.
You kidding me?
Nope.
Fuck that, man.
So, that was pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
The customer service is terrible.
They don't honor rain checks.
They don't advertise properly.
They don't give you what they say they're going to give you.
And just all in all, I just got fed up with it.
Well, now they've decided to roll this out full scale as an official way of doing business.
The devils are the devils.
The devils are its worst customers.
They buy products, apply for rebates, return the purchases, then buy them back at return merchandise discounts.
Okay.
They load up on, quote, loss leaders.
Now, if you don't know what a loss leader is, that's like you see it in retail a lot with Walmart, for example, or something.
They'll sell the Clorox bleach for $0.29 a gallon, hoping to get you in the store that after you're in there, sure, they lose money on selling a thing of bleach, but they hope you buy other stuff and load up your cart and they make that money back from you buying other things.
It will take a loss on one to make the money on something else, just the fact that you're a dumbass inside their hellhole.
Now, that's a perfectly standard strategy, a perfect thing that businesses do all the time.
Usually it works, but you know what?
It's a risk you take when you do it.
You can't whine and cry about it, in my opinion, if it doesn't pay off for you.
If you're going to list something out there as a loss leader, because you know what?
Really, it's their fault because they're trying to one-up Circuit City or Walmart or Target or one of the other companies by lowering it and lowering it so they can say, we have the lowest price.
Well, guess what?
You chose to do that.
Now, you're going to damn well honor it.
That's the way I feel about it anyway.
I, of course, only speak for myself, Buck Dangler.
Where's my bow-chicka-bow?
Bow-chicka-bow-bow-bow.
They load up on loss leaders, severely discounted merchandise designed to boost store traffic, then flip the goods at a profit on eBay.
All right.
Well, you know what?
That's a valid concern of Best Buy.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, I mean, yeah, they're taking the risk by taking losses on certain items to get you in there to buy something else.
But when you're saying you're going to sell, you're going to take a TV, perhaps, right?
Like, let's say a nice, you know, plasma screen TV, right?
And your cost.
Well, generally, loss leaders are low-ticket items.
That's what I'm saying.
So who's flipping something on eBay?
Well, if it's a low-ticket item, they could just as very easily put a limit on how many you could buy.
And that's it.
You know, if it's something that's small, you know, something that costs maybe their cost for it is $10, and they're going to sell it for $8 to get your dumbass in the store, you can only buy one.
Or you can only buy two or three.
Or just give a limit, you know?
And they usually do that as well.
And I just don't see why I'm a bad customer.
Because I go in the day that the new DVD, Star Wars, or whatever comes out, Lord of the Rings comes out, and I want to buy it because they have the lowest price.
So I go in, I buy it at the price that they advertise, and I walk out of the store with it.
How am I a bad customer because of that?
How am I a devil?
They're not making any money off of you.
See, this isn't...
That's their fault, not mine.
It's the thing.
You've got to understand that...
No one made them put that at a low price like that.
I understand this, but...
If they wouldn't have done it, I would have gone to whatever had the next lowest price.
And if they just price their stuff instead of trying to compete with each other, they're taking a risk.
If it doesn't pay off, that doesn't make me a bad customer.
That makes you a bad business person.
But once again, nobody's forcing you to shop at Best Buy.
And I think...
And I don't anymore.
I don't...
Well, yeah.
I think that this guy, he has the right idea.
He might be going about it the wrong way.
There's a few things he's doing that I don't agree with.
But it's always been a standard thing in business that all customers are important.
And I've had the displeasure to work in retail quite a few times in my life.
And I will tell you this.
That it's always been my contention that that's a load of shit.
That there's certain types of customers that you don't want in your store.
Now, the problem is that maybe the person who goes in there and just wants to buy the stuff on sale, that's not necessarily a bad customer.
But there's probably a higher percentage of people who do that that are bad customers.
Consumers have a...
That's just not the people who buy the regular stuff that are bad customers.
Consumers have rights.
Consumers do have rights, but they also have the right to shop wherever the fuck they want.
That's right.
And they have a right that if you advertise something at a certain price, they have a right to come in and purchase that product at that price.
Period.
That does not make you a bad customer, a devil, or anything wrong with it.
This paragraph goes on to say,
They slap down rock-bottom price quotes from websites and demand that Best Buy make good on its lowest price pledge.
If you have a pledge that you're going to price match and meet or beat anyone's price, that's a business decision that you've made.
And if somebody comes in with a price and says,
I found this cheaper, price match it,
you damn well better be prepared to honor it or you are a fucking liar.
Yeah, but where are you going to pull that off of?
You're going to make your own website and then say,
Oh, look, this guy has this TV for 50 cents.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, no, because normally what they say on those is that it has to be a recognized site.
Now, yes, that gives them a vague area.
That's too vague.
Why don't they just say another physical retail, like a store that you walk in with those circulars in the mail?
Why don't they just say we don't match prices on the motherfucking internet?
That's what their official rule is.
It has to be a bricks-and-mortar store.
Okay, that's good.
So if I get it, K-Mart, that's good.
Nobody should come in on the internet and say this.
You just say, Look, you're fucked.
But I order a lot of electronics and stuff from a place up in New York.
It's a brick-and-mortar store, but I buy it through their online web front.
Okay.
They should honor that, but they didn't.
It's a brick-and-mortar store?
I went in there with that exact printout, and they would not honor it for me.
I've gone in there with printouts from Circuit fucking City.
Now, don't tell me they shouldn't honor that.
They wouldn't honor it?
No, they wouldn't honor it.
Because it's a lie.
It is an out-and-out lie.
I'm losing my voice trying to scream over you.
It is an out-and-out lie where they rape the customers.
They say we have a price-matching policy when the bottom line fact of the matter is they do not.
But it is a lie, and they should be held accountable for it instead of blaming us for being bad customers.
You're a bad customer.
Ridiculous.
You know you're a bad customer.
And here's the other funny thing.
Here, just to put this in perspective, Best Buy estimates that as many as 100 million of its 500 million customer visits each year are undesirable.
And that the 54-year-old chief executive wants to be rid of these customers.
20%.
100 million.
You know who would be happy to have them?
Walmart, who's number two on the list of electronic retailers.
I'm going to get to that in a second.
Believe it or not.
I'm going to get to that.
Number three, Circuit City.
Hey, guess what?
If they get 100 million customers, they're going to leapfrog into number one.
Well, yeah, yeah.
They'll be glad to take them.
I'm certain of it.
Unless those 100 million customers are the shitty customers who come and fuck you over and scam you.
Yeah, right.
Number four is actually Dell, which is a different animal altogether.
And five is Target.
So, you know what?
All those places, they'll be glad to take those customers.
I think this is a stupid, stupid business decision.
And I'm going to watch Best Buy fall flat on their face for this.
Hi.
Well, let me ask you this thing.
I saw that particular article in the Wall Street Journal.
And can you do me a favor and tell me what their sales figures total were last year?
Yeah, and this is actually, you didn't see this, but this is actually a funny part of the whole thing.
If those customers are ripping them off so bad and screwing them over so horribly that they feel it's necessary to do this, explain these numbers.
I will.
I'll show you in a second.
In the 2004 fiscal year that ended in February, Best Buy reported a net income of $570 million.
Okay.
Up from $99 million during the year earlier period.
Okay.
So, they made $500 million more than the previous year.
But somehow...
So, it was only...
I thought that that was $99 million more.
No.
Up from $99 million.
Okay.
$500 million more.
I'm going to explain exactly...
All right.
I'm going to explain something right here.
You've got the microphone for a second.
You go ahead and tell me.
Okay.
You said that you stopped doing business with them a couple of years ago because of their policies that they implemented.
Right?
Right.
Well, obviously, they're fucking working because they went up to $500 million in those new policies.
And this guy, Anderson...
What's his name?
Brad?
I call him Brad.
Brad Anderson.
What he's looking at is saying, look, we implemented these crazy fucking policies and we're up $500 million this year.
They did not...
No, no, no.
We're just getting real fucking nuts.
They didn't implement these policies officially.
Okay.
But you said they were doing it like the 15% restocking, which is totally unheard of.
You know what I'm saying?
That's not fucking heard of.
But if this has made them that much money, how about for it?
Do it.
That's not unheard of.
I just went and got a nice fresh glass of iced tea there.
Maybe that'll help my voice.
It's not unheard of.
A lot of online places do it because of the fact that it does cost them money to do some of this stuff.
And again, that's a risk you accept as a consumer.
It's a online place when you have to ship something out.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a bitch.
But that's exactly what it is.
That's an online thing.
There's no reason for the bricks and mortars to do that.
Well, there isn't.
But Best Buy is doing it.
It's stupid.
But you know what?
Walmart.
It's made these guys $500 extra million last year.
So you know what?
I think by...
The way this...
It could have been $900 million if they didn't piss off people like me with these stupid policies.
You never know.
Maybe it would have been less.
That's the thing.
And that's what he's trying to do.
Now, I understand your side of the story.
I definitely do.
And I think there's...
But from a perspective, from a retail perspective, you've got to put yourself in this guy's shoes.
No, it's not...
It is heresy by turning away customers.
It's bad business.
Some customers are bad customers.
But sometimes heresy takes you far.
It's bad business all the way around.
Well, we never...
We'll see.
This guy, Brad Anderson, he got a $500 million a year company.
Let's see what he does.
Let's see what happens.
It could have been a $900 million a year if he hadn't pissed off...
Because I'm not the only one that thinks this.
Oh, I'm sure.
Look online over the past year or so and look at how many Best Buy sucks stories there are.
That's true.
You know, Best Buy reputation is going down.
And meanwhile, this is exactly what Circuit City did in the 80s.
Yeah.
Circuit City now has gotten better.
They got rid of the commission with the salespeople hawking over you.
Circuit City now is on the upswing because they're catching off all that business of people that are sick and tired of dealing with Best Buy.
I do all of my shopping at Circuit City now, and I do spend a lot of money on electronics.
You know, I'm a computer geek.
I buy all that kind of stuff.
I used to go to the Best Buy.
Not anymore.
Well, I go to Circuit City, and you know why?
Because, A, they do honor their price match.
I've gone to them a couple times with the Best Buy ad, and they have price matched it.
Not a problem.
They were happy about it.
So you know what I do as a consumer because of that?
I take my other business back to them.
That makes that company grow.
Well, I hear you on that, man.
I definitely hear you, but, you know.
Let me finish.
Okay, okay.
That is a business decision that this guy has made, myself, and there are a lot of people like me.
You just were getting ready to say that you agreed with me.
All of us have taken our business away from them.
Yeah.
So, sure, they made $570 million, but it could have been higher and would have been higher except that they're alienating customers by doing this.
Well, we'll see what happens at the end of the fiscal year next year after these policies are implemented.
Yeah, well, it's going to take a little bit longer because now they have so many physical locations,
and there are so many places where they've strong-armed other companies out of business.
If they're in a location where there is no Circuit City, and there is no Walmart, like that's...
That's it.
They're the only game in town.
Yeah, like there is...
Yeah, well, there's no place where there's no Walmart anymore.
Not here.
Right fucking here where I live, baby.
And actually, there's another parallel, if we have a second to go on this, is the fact that Walmart, before Sam Walton died, was a great place.
Sam Walton was the bomb.
Sam Walton was a really cool guy.
Walmart would take anything back.
They would take all returns, no questions asked.
I saw, and this is not a joke, I am not making this up, you can believe it, or if not, I saw somebody return a box of condoms used to a Walmart, and they gave them their money back.
I do that all the time.
Yeah, well, I know.
Don't we all now?
I return them.
But no, I mean, of course you're going to have people that do nasty stuff like that, but for the most part, people are coming back in because the item broke, and they're honest or whatever.
If you try to return something to Walmart these days, forget about it.
That's why Walmart is so hated now.
Well, as far as, I want you to get into a little tangent about Walmart.
Well, they get into a...
The top five electronics retailers?
No, wait a minute.
Here's the point of that, and the reason I bring that up.
And it also goes back to Circuit City in the 80s.
They used to be the only game in town.
And they shot themselves in the foot, and they got a bad reputation.
They're on the upswing now because they hopefully learned their lesson.
But what happens is when they're growing and when they're a small company taking off, they're good.
They have that hunger.
They're wanting to be successful.
They want customers.
There comes a point where they hit a point where they think they're great.
They think they're too big that they can make up the rules and change the rules.
But guess what?
Consumers are the ultimate decision makers.
And consumers are more intelligent than these people give us credit for.
I will shop online or at another alternative store to get these items if Best Buy does not cater to what I want and what I need.
I am not going to let them take advantage of me.
And the majority of consumers, I think, feel the same way.
Well, you're probably right.
But all I have to say is this.
I think the guy is on the right track.
He's just going to do it the wrong way.
I think he is on the right track that not every customer is important.
And sometimes you want to get rid of a certain element of the customer.
Yeah, a very tiny percentage, not 20%.
No, not 20%.
No, no.
Like I said, I think he's on the right track.
But he hasn't quite gotten it yet.
One twentieth of one percent.
Well, no.
I would go towards, personally, from my personal experience, what I have seen.
And maybe I live in a crazy place.
Maybe New York is kind of wacky or something.
You live in New York, too?
I would say it's closer to five percent of customers you want gone.
Did you know the decoder lives in New York, too?
Yeah, yeah.
We hang out there.
I want to say 2,600.
Oh, you should hook up.
Yeah.
Yep, definitely.
But I'm going to say closer to five percent.
Maybe because I'm really cynical.
Maybe it's closer to about two, two and a half percent.
But it's not a tenth of a percent, like you said, man.
The only people.
It's a large number, but it's not 20 fucking percent.
It's not 100 million of the people walking through Best Buy every year.
That's fucking goddamn sure.
I just think instead of taking all these weird strategies and alienating customers,
I think if they would just stop doing the loss leader tactics all the time and sell it
at whatever a minimum profit or a small profit or even a big profit so that at least when
people come in, they know where they stand, they know where they're getting, and they
know you're being honest.
You're going to learn.
Now, listen.
You're going to learn.
I'm sorry.
You're going to lose some customers like that to the other loss leaders.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, but you're not going to lose 20 percent.
When you intentionally alienate 20 percent by doing this kind of stuff, you're shooting
yourself in the foot.
Definitely.
He definitely is.
I think he's on the right track, but he's going to fuck up.
But I will say that I'm not Mr. Consumer.
But when I see the Best Buy ad in the Sunday newspaper, and I see this new movie on DVD that
comes out, and it's $10 or $15 or whatever the fucking sale is, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
And, you know, it's brand new.
It's just out.
And I want to go pick it up that Tuesday that it comes out.
I'll walk into the Best Buy.
I'll pick up that DVD.
And, you know, while I'm there, I will buy a few other things.
I'm not going to just buy that DVD, but that's just the way I work.
That's just the way I shop.
Because I'm already there.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm already physically in the fucking store.
I don't want to come back.
Trust me.
I don't really want to be out there shopping for shit inside a retail establishment.
It gives me a bad taste in my mouth.
So I want to get what I've got to get.
So maybe I'll go in there for that $10 or $15 brand new movie that just came out on DVD.
But I might also say, oh, look, that's a cool DVD, and it's only $10.
I'm going to grab that, too.
And then I might walk over and look at the CDs and say, oh, here's a fucking new band,
and this CD is only $8 or something because it's one of these new bands, you know?
And I'll pick that up, and I'll say, oh, yeah, you know, and I need fucking batteries.
Oh, and I need a new fucking whatever, you know, for this random piece of electronic equipment I have.
And I might pick up a few things while I'm there.
Not because I'm a consumer and because I'm so tempted to buy so many things.
It's because I don't want to be in the motherfucking store that much.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, but at the same time, there are some times, I'm like that, too.
If there's something I need, I'll get it while I'm there and get it on one trip.
But at other times, I'm going there because I'm only here to get one thing, a DVD, and get the hell out.
That doesn't make me a bad customer.
Yeah, it's understandable.
Sometimes I do that as well, but usually I am going to buy more than the DVD, but that's just me.
Well, that's...
I'm only going to sit my ass and best buy like three or four times a year, you know?
Right, but I mean, like me, I'll go in there four or five times.
Each time, I'm going in there for a particular DVD, and again, I do not anymore.
They lost my business.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I hear you on that, man.
I go in there four or five times.
Each time, it's to buy a particular item.
I need...
Well, things.
I need a USB cable.
I need a CD burner because my other one broke.
I need, or I want, I should say instead of need, I want this DVD that came out.
So I go in there five times and I buy only the one item that I want, the one item that's on sale,
that they've got as a loss leader, if that's the case, whatever.
But you know what?
Out of those five times, I also notice that they have a digital camera section.
Yeah.
So when it came time to buy a digital camera, I know where I'm going to go to buy it.
Not anymore.
You're going to chase me out those four or five times.
I'm not going to come back and buy a camera because you don't want me.
You're kind of right.
I will say, though, that we, as hackers, we're an electronic store.
We're going to get other shit.
Whether we fucking went in there for it or not, we're going to get other shit.
You're going to buy something else, you know?
Unless you've got nothing in your pocket and you really only want to spend this $15 on this DVD.
Come on.
You're into technology.
You're going to get something else.
You're going to buy a fucking pack of blank CDs.
You're going to, you know, something.
Why would I need blank CDs?
I don't know.
Why would you need them?
I don't know.
I don't understand that either.
I mean, there's nothing I would need those for.
Why not?
Because I don't need to really burn anything.
I mean, the only people that burn stuff are software pirates.
Okay, fine.
Maybe I'm a software pirate.
Screw you.
Yeah, you don't even have a computer, you douche.
Whatever.
I'm just saying, the point is that you're in an electronic store.
Not everyone, but just we, in our particular here community, you might buy a few more things.
Me, personally, like I said, I don't want to be in the fucking store.
Ever.
So if I'm going in there to get that $15 DVD, I'm going to grab a few other things while I'm there.
It's not something I want in there specifically.
Are you really sitting, are you really going to sit here and tell me that you've never gone into a store for one item and one item only and left buying only one item?
Um, I have.
You're walking down the streets of New, come on, we walked in the subway and you go and you buy the one day subway pass because that's all you need.
Yeah, but sometimes, I'm going to explain it like this.
I don't go in there, I go in there wanting that new, what's a new movie that's out?
I don't know.
What's a brand new fucking movie that's out?
I have no idea.
All right, well, whatever.
Fahrenheit 9-11.
I go in there and I want to buy Fahrenheit 9-11 on TV.
No, no, we're not using that on my show.
It's on sale.
I'm not using that.
Only one I can think of, dude.
I'm giving you another one.
Shrek 2 just came out, I think.
Shrek 2, I was going to say that, but I don't like Shrek.
Well, if I was inclined to like that Shrek nonsense, I would go in there and I would say, okay, Shrek 2 is out.
I'm going to buy this, it's cheap here at Best Buy.
Fine.
So I go in there and I'm not thinking about getting anything else.
But now I go over to where the DVDs are, I pick up Shrek 2, and being the fucking inquisitive person that I am,
I'm going to look around the DVDs and I'm going to say, oh shit, fucking Metropolis.
You've got to catch the subway, man.
You've got to hurry up and catch the subway.
Get the hell out.
No, I'm just going to say, look, it's Metropolis and it's ten bucks.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm going to grab that DVD and I'm going to buy Shrek 2 and I'm going to buy Metropolis.
Well, you're a woman.
What do you want me to tell you?
You're shopping.
It's not shopping.
Yes, you are.
You just went over and looked at Metropolis.
You're a woman.
Whatever.
Get the hell out of here.
Get off my show.
We are going to get the hell out of here.
Get off my show, motherfucker.
I've got a little bit of voice left.
I'm not going to be...
Anyway, you know what?
To wrap up the whole Best Buy thing.
Right.
It's fucked up what he's doing.
It's not good to customers.
But you know what?
Here's the bottom line.
The bottom line is, if in the 2005 fiscal year, this crazy fucking plan that Rad Brad, whatever
his last name is, what's his last name?
Rad Anderson.
Well, whatever Rad Brad Anderson does, if it fucking works, you're going to see some
really crazy shit happen in the world of commercial fucking consumerism and stuff like that.
I couldn't have more confidence that this is going to fail.
Okay.
Well, hey, you know what?
Absolutely.
I'm ever the skeptic, and I just don't know.
It might work.
It might not.
I think he's on the right track.
If you chase away people, they're not going to notice that you...
Basically, they make money on high-ticket items.
If people don't come in and buy the low-ticket DVDs and music and stuff, they're not going
to buy a new DVD.
Don't fucking sell DVDs and CDs in your Best Buy if you want to make money on the $6,000
plasma TV.
Well, that's what they're doing.
That's really what they're trying.
Well, then don't fucking stop carrying them.
Don't carry batteries.
That's what I'm saying.
Don't carry batteries in an electronic store, but you don't need to carry the DVDs.
You don't really fucking have to.
Anybody could go to Tower fucking Records and buy a CD.
You know what I'm saying?
Anybody could go anywhere to buy the media.
You know what I'm saying?
But if you want to buy a $10,000 fucking TV, then go to Best Buy.
If you don't want this shit, Rad Brad Andrews, don't sell DVDs.
Don't sell CDs.
Don't sell these low-ticket items.
That's it.
That's all I can tell you, bro.
That's all I can tell them.
Because the people who buy those are devils, according to Brad Anderson.
Yeah, but he's right, though.
People might come in there.
They might fucking...
We're devils.
He's right.
They're devils.
That's brilliant.
They might try to pull one over on you or buy something, and then it goes on sale next
week, and they want to come back and say, oh, I bought this last week, and now it's
on sale.
It's like, what's tough fucking shit?
You bought it last week.
Tough shit.
Well...
You've got to put yourself in his shoes as well.
You've got to stand in the shoes of yourself as a consumer, but every once in a while,
you've got to stand in Rad Brad's shoes, and you've got to say, I'm a fucking CEO of Best
Buy.
I want to make fucking more money.
Oh, God.
It's so impossible to get a word in edgewise with you.
I'm sorry.
Well, you said that you had a sore throat and you didn't want to talk.
Well, yeah, you're right, but it makes it worse trying to speak over you.
I'm sorry.
I don't pause enough.
I'm just going to say that, I'm going to go back and say that, first of all, everybody
that does this or somebody else out there that's happy because they're going to swoop
on the business because they are smart businessmen.
And that's why I say Circuit City is the place right now, because they do honor their price
matching policy.
They do still honor the prices that you come in.
They don't treat customers like criminals and devils.
That's disgusting to even use such a term.
That I do agree with.
You really should call them devils.
You could call them bad customers or non-profit customers, you know what I'm saying, or lost
customers, but devils and angels, get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, that's just sickening.
It is.
Circuit City is going to be glad to have you come in there.
They're going to sell you the stuff.
And if they don't have the best price, go it online, but avoid best lie.
That's my summary.
Don't go there.
If they don't want you, we don't want them.
Yeah, exactly.
Don't go there.
You don't like their policies, don't go there.
Absolutely.
Exactly right.
And what you just said about people saying, I bought it last week and now it's on sale
this week.
Guess what?
Circuit City has a 30-day price match.
If you do find it on sale in 30 days and take it back, they will give it to you.
Okay, so Best Buy, you think it's a smart idea to not do that?
Guess where everybody's going to go.
Guess who's laughing all the way to the fucking bank.
Yeah, well, Circuit City is still number three, my friend, and Best Buy is number one.
And you watch.
By the way, was that?
You watch.
Those top five, though, that was electronics retailers?
Electronics retailers only.
I'm going to say one thing about Walmart, because we all hate Walmart.
I'm going to say one thing about Walmart.
The lines, the products, the models that these electronics companies send to Walmart are Walmart
only most of the time.
Very, very quickly do this.
Yeah, most of the time they're Walmart only.
So when you see that Sony CD player at Walmart...
Oh, God, don't buy Sony.
I'm just saying, I'm just making up a name.
When you see that Sony CD player at Walmart and you think, oh, Sony's good shit, check
out the model number.
Go look it up online and find out that it's Walmart only.
It's fucking inferior.
Do not.
Don't buy anything at Walmart.
But if you can help it, never buy a piece of electronic anything at Walmart.
Don't.
Just do yourself a favor and don't do it.
These are not real products.
These are Walmart products.
Just because it says Sony, this is shit they only send to Walmart most of the time.
I could be wrong, but this is what I've noticed.
I try to stay the fuck out of Walmart.
There's no Walmarts that close to me.
I think the closest one is maybe 20, 30 miles.
So I'm lucky right here where I am.
But I've lived in places where Walmart's the main thing in town.
And I've noticed this, that these electronics are not the real deal.
These are fucking inferior shit that these manufacturers make on the cheap just for Walmart
because they know Walmart's one of these cheap old fucking stores.
So don't do it.
Don't buy any electronics at Walmart.
Get them out of the top five.
Get them the fuck out of the top five.
I've lived in places where Walmart was the only game in town.
Dude, when I lived in the state of Iowa, and Walmart was the only game in town.
And you know fucking what?
I drove 65 fucking miles on the interstate to Iowa City, well, almost Iowa City, to the mall
and shopped at a little store called Best Buy.
Yuck.
Well, you know, that was the other only game in town.
But I could have went to Circuit City or anything else.
I traveled the 60-something miles to the mall instead of shopping at the Walmart six-tenths
of a mile away from me.
Now, see, you've just told everybody not to buy batteries at Best Buy.
They can't shop at Walmart.
Juicy Julie, I mean, you know, where are you going to buy batteries for your assorted sex toys?
The porn store.
Oh, there you go.
The porn store sells batteries.
Convenience.
Oh, they do.
Are they, like, cheap?
Speaking from experience, that is.
They're probably really expensive at the porn store, right, baby?
Oh, yeah.
You pay for convenience.
Yeah, exactly.
They're very convenient, actually.
Gosh.
If you're in New York, you buy batteries on the subway.
Everybody knows that.
I fucking buy batteries on the side of the highway.
I get off the exit, and there's a guy selling batteries, okay?
And you know he stole them, but you know what?
They're cheap.
I don't care.
That's capitalism.
The only thing you buy on the side of the highway down here is oranges.
But anyway, let's wrap up the side.
You can go buy flowers for your girl, writers, fresh fruit, watermelons, and honeydews and
stuff right up the side of the highway.
Do they have the homeless voice?
Do they have that up there?
What?
The homeless voice?
The hell is that?
Is it a newspaper?
Yeah, the homeless people stand out there with cups begging for money, and they give you
a newspaper called the homeless voice.
Oh, shit.
I wish they did.
I'd give them money.
Oh, yeah.
Anyway.
Yeah, we got to wrap up.
We have a full, full show, and if whoever earlier asked an all-ranting show, they ended
up...
That's what this turned into, wasn't it?
Well, it's what happens when I'm around.
Oh, man.
I'm sorry.
I apologize.
I don't have much voice left, so I'm going to wrap it up here.
Let me get some shouts out of the way, and then I'll open it up for you and Juicy Julie.
First of all, my shouts, I kind of insinuated this earlier, but my shouts go to people who
don't make sites and forums and places worse by stirring up shit and drama and stuff like
that.
People who don't do that.
If you don't get caught up in that stuff and don't get pulled in by trolls and don't
become a part of the problem, you know, be a part of the solution, not part of the problem.
So, specifically, I want to give shout-outs to Twirls, to Black Ratchet, G.I. Joe, end
users, Skedja, Skeda.
By the way, I should have mentioned a long time ago, I always forget to check out persuasion.info.
That's P, the number three, R-S-U-A-S-I-O-N.info.
I should have pimp that a long time ago, and it's been on my notes, and I always forget
about it.
Who's set is that?
Skeda.
Okay.
I hope I'm pronouncing it right.
Please forgive me.
S-C-H-E-D-A.
What kind of shit is on that site?
Thank you for that.
That's a social engineering site that he runs.
Right.
And actually, I have an article that's a couple weeks old that I've been, it's on my desktop
at work.
I've saved it at work that I've been meaning to send, and I keep forgetting it.
I get caught up in coding and stuff and forget about it, but I have an article to send
him.
But yeah, I wanted to single those guys out.
Thank you very much for emails that they sent me.
I really, really appreciate it.
I appreciate what they had to say, and I got them, and I wanted to acknowledge that.
It really means a lot to hear from people saying what they said, and I appreciate that.
Now, did you have some shouts you wanted to give out there?
Just one quick question.
That's persuasionwitha3.info?
Right.
Okay, I'm definitely going to go check that out.
I'm always on the lookout for new, cool sites.
It sounds pretty cool.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a good guy, and that site is fairly new, but growing, and he's really working
hard to post a lot of information and articles and things.
I'm actually writing that down right now.
That sounds really fucking cool.
Yeah.
All right, my shouts definitely go to Roger5andDoug, who helped me over at the Mind War.
TheMindWar.com.
I heard your email address got owned or something.
What was that about?
Shut up.
It's TheMindWar.
The reason that we were originally going to call it Mind War, but MindWar.com is already
registered, so the name of the show is The Mind War.
And yeah, hopefully, I think I just got word from Doug a little while ago that we're going
to be on Rant Radio, I think, by next week.
Just like, you know, a kind of propaganda, psychological warfare type of show.
So, just, you know, be on the lookout for that shit.
We already got a few episodes out.
Rigel5 did an amazing job on the website.
So, huge shouts to Rigel5.
You can always, you know, check it out.
TheMindWar.com.
I think we have an email.
TheMindWar at USA.com.
Or, of course, you know, just any one of us at TheMindWar.com.
I don't really know what they did with the emails.
Who else?
Oh, everybody in New York City 2600, especially Epiphany, Dementia, and Anon.
Everyone else in New York City 2600.
Yeah, you got to pass on to Epiphany and Johnny Lightning.
Tell those, give them my regards.
I haven't spoken to them in a while.
Yeah, no doubt, man.
No doubt.
And, of course, shout out to my man Slipmode.
Slipmode.
It's a show in the now.
Slipnet.org.
He helped us out the other night to do an episode of The Mind War.
So, that's about it.
Shouts to all those dudes.
And shouts to everyone who isn't a fucknut and who has fun and does cool shit and doesn't fucking bitch.
Yeah.
And shouts to you, StankDog, for having me on the show.
Oh.
I mean, Buck, dang.
Yeah, he's getting there to say, wait a minute.
For having you, Mr. Pink.
Oh, yeah.
On the show.
All right.
Well, our closing music today is a little...
Does Julie have any shouts?
Oh, Julie.
I'm sorry.
Juicy Julie, do you have any shout outs you'd like to give?
Say hi to somebody?
No, not really.
I'd just like to thank you guys.
Oh, no, thank you because the show was just so hot with you on it.
You're not the only one who were hot.
Oh.
Julie, you don't want to shout anybody out on, like, the bridge or anything?
Uh, no.
All right.
Well, I give shout outs to Juicy Julie for helping us out with episode 69.
Thank you.
Had a little fun.
Had a little fun with this episode.
It came out pretty good.
Oh, yeah.
Our closing music, appropriately, is a song that fits some pretty good music that fits the topic of 69.
And I think you'll hear why in a minute.
And, um, that's going to do it.
If you have feedback, send it to radio at binrev.com.
Uh, like I said before, that, uh, uh, that retarded stank dog's going to probably be back next week, hopefully with a voice, um, that you can actually understand, so, um.
Or an underground porn.
Yeah, so, until next week, I guess that's going to do it, so, we will see everybody, same prawn time.
Same prawn channel.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, come on.
Seriously.
No.
I mean.
How was it?
Okay.
It's like holding a two-fisted burrito.
Oh, my God.
It ain't so sexy.
I couldn't watch it.
Oh, my God.
Take me with both hands.
Take me with both feet.
Take me how you can.
And I hope you like white meat and the honky-donkies.
Honky-donkies.
Let's go for a ride.
I know what you lack.
You've never been rode.
I like it bareback.
And I'm always ready for the second load.
Honky-donkies.
Let's go for a ride.
Bye.
Okay.
How big were his feet?
Because I need to know if that's true.
Is it the feet?
Is it the hands, the ears?
No.
Nothing about the feet.
I think it's the lump in the pants.
Is this the simple?
Yes.
He has to get his underwear custom.
Oh, my God.
So it ripped my jaw so awkward.
For a week, three.
And once you chase me, you're gonna want more.
Don't wanna waste me, and you'll always let me in the back door.
Honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-ay, let's go for a ride.
Honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-ay, let's go for a ride.
Honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-a-donk-ay-donk-ay.
Honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-ay-donk-ay-donk-ay.
Honk-a-donk-ay, honk-a-donk-ay-donk-ay.