This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six foe
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll school you on burning dream cats
You need some ISO? Let me do my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the cruisers
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RAMs, SIFs, SIFs
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack
Welcome everybody to Binary Revolution Radio Episode 72
I am Stankdog
And I am here this week with my co-host Lucky225
Yo, what's up?
And we are coming to you on November 30th, 2004
Yet another Tuesday, like we're always here on Tuesdays
And we aired a special episode
Well, special like in Short Bus Special last week
Where I played my presentation from The Fifth Hope in New York City in July
So we've been piling up on emails in the meantime
So we've got quite a bit of email to talk about this week
And some pretty interesting topics coming up later on in the main portion of the show
So probably should just jump into the email quickly, right away
We're not even a minute into the show
And we're going straight to the email
Now, our first email comes from Nick Nick
Who says, I don't know if it would be possible
But the PowerPoint presentation that you used for your presentation
Would be nice to have while listening to Episode 71
Yeah, I know
It's on my to-do list
It's on my list of things
And yeah, it would have been really nice to have it for the Episode 71
But the problem is it's still on my laptop
I haven't had time to bring it over to my main system
Where I can kind of work on it, massage it
I need to package it up and make it available for download
And all that good stuff
And somebody's got a call interrupt thing going on here
Yes, my call waiting is inevitably going off
Great, great timing
Well, we're going to go right through it anyway
Because, well, that's you
That's right
The presentation also has videos
Embedded videos and sound in it
Which makes the file size like really, really big
So it's going to make it a really big download
So that's another reason I've kind of been hesitating
I'm going to try to massage it a little bit
Like I said, try to get the file size down
Et cetera, et cetera
So, yes, I'll try to get it up as soon as possible
And yes, it should have been up
It would have been perfect to have had it up for that episode
But, sorry, what can I tell you
And what else do we have here
Email from Elzer
Elzer says
Dear Stankdog, or Buck Dangler
If he is the host
Actually, Buck Dangler
Only shows up for some strange reason
On episode 69 of every show
I don't know why
He just has a habit of showing up during that episode
So I don't know what that's all about
First, let me say thank you
For putting on an incredible show
I think you and the DDP crew
Put on the best shows on the net
Yeah, yeah
That's right
I only started listening in March of this year
But I have learned so much
That I might never have looked into
Or cared to look into
Anyway, the other day
My mother received a strange email
Supposedly coming from SunTrust Bank
Asking for the typical phishing things
Credit card information, et cetera
Since you did a show on phishing
I thought you might want to see it
It looks pretty professional
And the link directs you to
And it gives me a URL here
Which, even if I wanted to read this long URL
This is actually the numeric IP address
It's down now anyway
So I won't bother
Go figure
The strange thing is that
There is some hidden text at the bottom
Which reads
Quote
American Express
Golden Globes
Carmen Electra
Horoscopes
Blah, blah, blah
I'm not going to read all this
Brittany Murphy is in here
Robert Blake
Open Directory
Harley Davidson
Just random
Seemingly random
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Cats and Dogs
Yeah
Ramadan
Come on
Ramadan
Anyway
What do you make of it?
Well, keep up the good work, guys
I really enjoy your show
Yeah, actually
Our fishing
The episode we did on fishing
I was
I believe Acidus co-hosted that with me
And
That was
Gosh, a couple months ago
Very timely as it turns out
Because I know I've seen
Slashed out articles lately
There's been
News articles
In some of the security
Magazines
Some of the trade magazines
About how fishing is on the rise
Etc, etc
I don't know
But maybe it's related to Gmail
You know, so many people
Having Gmail accounts
That you can create for free
Disposable, etc
Maybe a lot of people
Are using Gmail for these things
Maybe that's why they're on the rise
I don't know
Just thinking out loud
But what about those words
At the bottom, Lucky?
Do you have any
Thoughts?
I mean
My guess would be
So that if
People are searching
For this type of thing
In a search engine
That they'd get directed
To that site
Yeah, and that's
That's one of the things
That I thought of
But on the other hand
It may be the exact opposite
It may prevent it to be
It may be in there
To keep it from being blocked
By search engine
Not just bump it to the top
Obviously a lot of those terms
Are things that would
Bump it to the top
People that are in the news
And things like that
But at the same time
Some search engines
Actually block sites
That are known spam sites
So I'm wondering
If those keywords
Are an attempt
To make it not look like spam
Something similar tactic
You see in actually
Spam email messages
You'll get
The Viagra spam
Or the Nigerian
And it'll have some like
It looks like it's a passage
From a book
But it's all like
Unintelligible English
And that's an attempt
To throw off that spam filter
So it
You know
The spam filters
Usually have like
A measurement scale
Every time they see
A certain keyword
It raises the spam
Likelihood factor
I don't know
What term it is
But it gives it a point
Every time it sees
Certain words
And if it gets above
A five
For example
I think that's what
Spam assassins defaults
Is it anything five
Or above
So every time it sees
The word sale
Or the word viagra
Or the word
Hot triple x action
Or whatever it's looking for
It adds a point or two
And the words are weighted as well
But by putting in passages
Of text and stuff
It actually helps to lower it
Because the word
The quality word ratio
Is lowered
So it doesn't look like
It's total spam
When it's mixed in
With an actual
Like you said
A book passage
Or a poem
Or just random words
Yeah
So it may be
The same thing
That they're trying
Not to get blocked out
By search engines
I don't know
That may not be
The case either
Because you know
These things don't
Stay up long enough
Really for a search engine
To pick them up anyway
So I don't know
That's kind of
A tricky one
It could be
Any number of things
While those words
Are down there
But it's something
Related to that
It's something close to that
Yeah
Okay
We have another email
From Lentium
Lentium says
On a recent episode
Of BinRev
With Decoder
I'm pretty sure
It was episode 69
Decoder mentioned Sony
As an example
Of a well known name brand
And you said something
To the effect of
Don't ever buy Sony
I was curious
Why you dislike Sony so much
Not that I have a bias
But I'm going shopping
See you're laughing
Because you know my
You know how much
I hate Sony
No I'm laughing
Because of my own
Experience with Sony
But go on
Okay good
This will be a good one here
Not that I have bias
But I'm going shopping
For a surround sound
Receiver soon
And the local Sony store
Is going to be tax free
This Friday
Well sorry
We weren't able
To get back to you
By Friday
Sorry about that
I hope you didn't buy Sony
So it seems like
A perfect time
To get one
If I decide to go
With the Sony model
Now I said something
To the effect
Of don't ever buy Sony
I don't remember
What my exact words
Were
But let me make it clear
Don't ever buy Sony
Who are you to dictate
What people can
And can't buy
Okay
In my humble opinion
I am a show
In my personal opinion
Don't buy Sony
They suck
I don't want to support
The company
That's my personal choice
And I hope
You know what
Let me explain why
And maybe some other people
Will understand
Where I'm coming from
And actually
Let me make a correction
First of all too
Episode 69
Was the episode
Where this came up
But it was not decoder
People make that mistake a lot
Yeah I believe it was
Mr. Pink
That was on episode 69
Exactly
Mr. Pink sounds
Strikingly
Just almost
Like a double
A voice double
For decoder
But it was in fact
Mr. Pink
And Buck Dangler
Hosting that show
Like I said
They only show up
For episode 69
I don't know
What that's all about
But
And you know what
They both sound like
Sergeant Switchhook too
Who's been on
Default Radio before
That's right
So they all sound
A lot alike to me
So I understand
The confusion
Don't worry about that
But yes
Mr. Pink
But
And I've been in this rant
On other shows
And let me
I'll just get my short
I'll give you the short version out
And then you share
Your Sony story
Boy that's a tongue twister there
I almost got a lisp there
I almost developed a lisp
On trying to say that
Alright
On previous episodes
I've gone into more detail
But here's the very short version
And I've said this phrase before
And I'll stick to it again
Sony
Is the Microsoft
Of the electronics industry
They are
To electronics
What Microsoft is
To software
To operating systems
They try to force
Their own standards
Down your throat
They don't care
About compatibility
They don't care
About cross compatibility
They don't care
About working with
Standards
And known whatever
Sony makes their own
They don't want to
Make
It's all proprietary
Yeah they don't want
To make CD burners
When CD burners
First were coming out
And stuff like that
They didn't do that
What did they make
The mini DV
They made their little
Mini DV discs
That were like
A little disc
Inside of a housing
Like cassette cartridge
Thing
To store your music to
And it was proprietary
The way it worked
You could only copy
From other
It was
Anyway
It was their proprietary thing
Another example
Memory sticks
Guess
Hey Sony
Guess what
SD is a standard
Compact flash
Is a standard
MMC is a standard
Why don't you support
Any of those
You know why
Because you suck
Because you want to
Force your own standards
On me
And make us buy
Memory sticks
If you buy a Sony
Video camera
Or whatever
A digital
Or whatever
You're going to buy
A memory stick
To store your pictures on
It won't support
MMC cards
It won't support
SD cards
It's going to support
The memory sticks
Which
Oh guess what
Surprise surprise
They cost twice as much
As all the others
Gee
I wonder why
Sony sucks
But that's only one reason
Oh I have more
I have more
Don't worry
I also think
Just as a company
I just find them
Incredibly hypocritical
It's absolutely hypocritical
I have no credibility
No respect for them
Because of the fact
That here they are
One of the biggest proponents
One of the biggest
Voices against
Piracy
And against copying music
Because you know
Sony Entertainment
Sony Pictures
Sony whatever
Oh don't copy our movies
Oh don't copy our music
And our CD
We're going to sue you
Your grandmother
And your 12 year old kids
We're going to sue you
Yet
Let me just think
For a second
Don't you guys
Make CD
Burrs
Come on now
What the hell
And then
Didn't they also put out
Those anti-piracy CDs
Yeah
They tried
Yeah
We saw how that went
They were defeated
With a marker
We saw how well
That went
Yeah
So anyway
That's my short version
And
Even the short version
Started to get me mad
There
Yeah
I saved at the end
I said what the
I didn't say what I was going to say at first
So that'll stay on the radio
I hope
Now you said you had a Sony story as well
Yeah
I've had several
I've just had several bad luck
With Sony
Anything Sony that I've owned
That just totally like broke on me
I had a Sony CD radio for my car
I've had a Sony CD player
A Lockman
I've had a Sony VAIO laptop
And they all broke within the first year
So you have quality issues
You just
You think they don't make good products
Is that what you're saying
You just don't
Yeah
The quality of their shit sucks
Hmm
Well
The quality of their stuff
Yeah
Um
I
You know what
I really can't confirm or deny that
Because I don't buy Sony
Yeah well good
You should be glad
Because if you did
You would uh
You would just end up
Buying more Sony crap
Unless you uh
Unless you learn the first time
I do hear a lot of people claim
And say that
Like in the defense of Sony
They always say that
Sony makes the best audio products
Oh they don't
Let me tell you
I have not had any luck
With Sony's audio products
Yeah
And again
I don't know
And I don't think
That they're any better than
I mean
There's other
There's a lot of options
There's a lot of alternatives
And come on
I mean
Even the Sony Playstation
The first batch of them
All have like
Read airs
After the first year
Or something like that
Yeah
Yeah well
What are you gonna do
I don't know
The only good thing
I'll say in defense of Sony
Was
And I don't have the
Playstation 2
And none of this stuff
But um
I liked the fact
That they made it
Backwards compatible
That surprised me
And that was a cool move
That they pulled
You can play Playstation 1 games
On the Playstation 2
I thought that was cool
They could have easily
Made all your Playstation 1 games
Obsolete
When they released Playstation 2
And they didn't
So I'll give them
I'll give them one good thing
But frankly
Who's gonna play Playstation 1 games
On a Playstation 2 anyway
I mean
Yeah
So
But anyway
Yeah I'll give them
A little bit of credit for that
But all in all
I think they're hypocritical
I don't like their business practices
They really are
The Microsoft
Of the hardware world
You know
Forcing their own
Whatever
Down your throat
And
And then
Again
If you want a replacement
Or the stuff goes bad
You have to go back to Sony
To get it
You know
You can't buy another
Generic SD
SD memory card
You have to go back to them
And what happens
Just like Microsoft
Microsoft drops support
For their old operating systems
For their old software products
I mean
Didn't Microsoft make a phone one time
I have no idea
I think Microsoft made a phone one
I think they tried to get into
The electronics
And made a phone
Well they make cell phones now
I know that
They manufacture them
I know they have Windows on
Windows version on cell phones
A CE or something
Oh yeah
On the Motorola's
That's right
Right
But I don't know
They made their own phone
That's news to me
I think they actually
Made their own
I think they actually
Made their own home phone
At some point
Maybe somebody
Knows confirm
Actually if somebody
Has one
I'd like to have
One of those
Just for my museum
Just for the heck of it
Oh my god
That would be cool
But um
And
Anyway
Why did I go off
On that tangent
Because
What happens is
A couple years down the road
They drop support for it
And then you're stuck
With this old phone
If it breaks
There is no repairing it
You're SOL
You're just
You're done
And the same thing with Sony
Five years down the road
If they say
Oh we're not doing the
What do they call it
Memory sticks anymore
We're not making those anymore
We've moved on to something else
So you're going to have to
Buy a new camera
And a new upgrade
Or whatever
You're just out of luck
And I don't like that
I don't like the way
They do business
They are
Everything
That's wrong with Microsoft
In a different market
That's all
Yep
Okay
Anyway
So don't buy Sony
Yeah
And don't buy things
On the buy nothing day
Either
Hey
Wait
Aren't you the one
That just said
Who are you
To tell people
What to buy
I was just going off
On a tangent
From a recent
Mind war episode
Themindwar.com
Let's see
And actually
We're going to talk
About that later
So we'll come back
To that
Okay
Where were we
More email
We got an email
From
I'm not sure
That's a stall tactic
I had to catch up
Where I was
On my notes
It's an email
From OOB
I was going to say
I don't know
If it's OOB
Or if it's OOB
OOB
But I'm going to go
With OOB
Because actually
OOB sounds too much
Like noob
And this is actually
A pretty cool email
A pretty cool thing
That he found here
OOB
Actually that's
Boo backwards too
That's right
Anyway
OOB says
Hey you guys
We're talking about
Google Desktop
Actually that was
Natus and I
Were talking about
That one episode
He says
Well it's pretty insecure
We know that somewhat
But this is a new thing
That I'd never heard of before
Because it checks
If you are coming
From 127.0.0.1
So if you tunnel
From another computer
It would seem
That you were coming
From 127.0.0.1
Which of course
Is local host
And it looks like
You're coming from
That local machine
So you can search
From a remote computer
And he says
The proof of concept
You can get it
Off my website
At
And being the nice guy
That I am
I made a tiny URL
For this
It's
TinyURL.com
Slash
3
M
T
R
5
So go check
That out
And he says
If it's down
Sometimes it's down
He can email me
But it's been up
I checked a couple times
That kind of
Can hold true
With other software
I believe
Probably
I don't know
Server stuff
Anyway maybe
But it is definitely
Interesting
I had not heard that
About Google Desktop
Before
So it is very interesting
If it's true
But
You still have the problem
Of getting into
Said machine
So if you're on
A local network
An intranet
Something like that
That you can easily
Get access to a
Oh for example
A co-worker's computer
A friend's computer
A school
A fellow student's
Computer
And a lab
Then yeah
You could probably
Get away with a lot more
But
For example
If I wanted to
Connect to
Lucky's computer
And use his
It's a little bit
More difficult
Or less difficult
Really when you look
At it
Hey
What are you trying to say
Are you looking at
My Google Desktop
I'm just teasing you
Not really
Alright
Let's see
That is actually
Pretty cool
Again
That tiny URL
Is 3MTR5
Now
As if that email
Wasn't enough
So far
Now we kind of
Jump into
What I call
The international
Email extravaganza
I got
Email from a lot
Of cool
Different countries
Today
And the first one
Comes from
Well look at that
It's OOB again
That's it
Hey
Love your show
Don't really get
Stuff like your show
In South Africa
I'm not sure
That we've had
A South Africa
Before
I can't remember
Off hand
Anyway
Let's see
But anyway
I was listening
To episode 69
And you guys
Were talking about
TV licenses
In the UK
Well here in
South Africa
We also have
TV licenses
But we still
Get lots of
Advertising
And if you don't
Yeah
Surprise surprise
Yeah you're
Double
You're double
Whammed on that
One
And if you
Don't have
A license
You can't
Buy a TV
And if you
Do
If you do
Somehow get
A TV
And they
Find you
You get
Arrested
And if it's
A repeat
Offense
You get
Jailed
For two
To three
Years
What the
Hell
Or have
A 50
Good save
50,000
Rand
Fined
Which is
Like
$5,000
The TV
License
Is
270
Rand
I guess
That's their
Currency
Yeah
Okay
Which is
About $48
A year
For four
Channels
And if you
Want paid
TV or
Satellite
You still
Pay for
The TV
License
Plus the
Extra
Channels
This is
Baloney
But it
Isn't
I did a
Little editing
There
This is
Baloney
But it
Really
Isn't
But it
Isn't
Really enforced
Because our
Police force
Thankfully
Has better
Stuff to
Do
But I
Do
Know
People
Who
Have
Spent
Nights
In
Prison
And
Pay
Huge
Fines
For
This
Idiotic
Idea
Wow
That's
A
Double
That's
Just a
Ream
Raid
Right
There
You're
Getting
It
From
Both
Ends
When
You're
Paying
The
Fee
And
You're
Getting
The
Ads
On
Top
Of
It
Yep
That
Just
Seems
Like
And
If you
Get
Satellite
You
Still
Have
To
Pay
For
The
I
Mean
Isn't
It
The
Point
Of
Satellites
To
Avoid
In
The
United
States
Anyway
You get
Satellite
To
Avoid
The
Cable
Fees
The
Cable
Monopolies
You get
Satellite
Here you have
To pay
For
Both
That
I don't
That kind
Of
Stanks
What
About
The
Penalty
What
Do
You
Think
Of
Those
Penalties
Yeah
Man
That's
A
Little
Harsh
Two
To
Three
Years
In
Jail
For
Having
A
TV
Man
We
Let
Drug
Dealers
Go
With
A
Slap
On
The
Wrist
We
Turn
Back
On
The
Streets
Yeah
You
Go
To
Jail
For
Batting
An
Illegal
Television
Set
In
South
Africa
Hold
On
Hold
On
Let
Make
A
Note
Real
Quick
Note
To
South
Don't
Move
To
South
Africa
Got
It
Alright
Um
Well
I don't
Know
What
To
Tell
You
There
Oob
Boo
Oob
But
Sorry
About
Your
Luck
Man
That
Sucks
There's
No
Other
Way
To
Put
That
Is
There
I
Can't
Find
A
That
Definitely
I
Don't
Fast
Forward
Through
TiVo
That's
You're
Bypassing
The
Advertising
And
Therefore
Stealing
From
Don't
Get
Into
That
Whole
Tangent
I
Know
Their
Whole
Complaint
About
How
They
Say
People
Are
Stealing
If
You
Fast
Forward
Skip
The
Ads
I'll
Rewind
And
Watch
The
Ads
Later
Yeah
That's
A
Good
One
I'm
Done
With
My
Show
I'll
Go
Back
And
Watch
The
Ads
Start
The
Ads
And
Walk
Out
Of
The
Room
Hey
Technically
The
Ads
Played
Just
Because
You
Weren't
There
You
Just
Rearranged
The
Order
Of
Them
So
Also
In
Regards
To
TV
Licenses
This
Is
I
Got
A
Lot
More
Responses
On
This
Than
I
Really
Thought
Than
I
Really
Expected
This
Is
Apparently
Very
Well
Known
Over
There
I
Had
Never
Heard
Of
That
I
I'm
Very
Ignorant
Of
The
Outside
World
I
Guess
I
Try
To
Be
I
Try
To
Stay
Up
But
Man
There's
A lot
Of
A lot
Of
Interesting
Stuff
Out
There
That's
Why
I
Love
Getting
Emails
From
Other
Countries
They
Always
Have
Stuff
That
I
Never
Heard
Of
Before
Yeah
Like
TV
Licenses
Yeah
I
Mean
We're
Going
To
Revoke
Your
TV
License
You
Been
Watching
Too
Much
TV
Kid
Maybe
Their
Maybe
Their
Programming
Yeah
I
Doubt
It
Too
Maybe
You
Can
Get
Restrictions
On
Your
TV
License
Like
No
Porn
Not
Allowed
To
Watch
Porn
Come
Now
Don't
Even
Joke
About
That
That's
Not
Funny
At
All
It's
Not
Funny
Now
We're
Going
To
Get
An
Email
Said
Yeah
You
Actually
Can
No
Porn
That's
Just
That
Makes
Stank
Dog
Sad
Yeah
I
Know
Why
Have
A
Television
If
There's
No
Porn
Seriously
Man
Yeah
Or
No
Violence
Yeah
Exactly
The
All
Porn
Channel
Let's
See
Yeah
Again
TV
License
I
Got
An
Email
From
Lesser
Of
Two
Evils
Also
Confirming
The
TV
License
And
I
Also
Got
An
Email
From
Someone
By
The
Name
Of
Tim
Iverson
Also
Confirming
The
Same
Information
But
He
Also
Ended
His
Letter
With
This
Line
That
Says
Why
Might
People
Who
Write
In
Not
Want
Their
Names
Revealed
On
The
Air
Now
Tim
Iverson
Is
From
The
United
Kingdom
He
Obviously
Doesn't
Mind
Us
Using
It
Or
He
Wouldn't
Have
Made
Such
A
Statement
And
I
Mean
There
Is
A
Very
Good
Reason
Again
And
Thank
You
For
The
Information
On
He
Sent
Me
Some
Good
Links
And
Some
Good
Information
We
Can
Put
This
Topic
To
Bed
Finally
I
Think
We
All
Realized
The
License
Fees
They
Have
Over
There
They
Pay
For
It
They
Pay
For
The
Television
But
They
Don't
Have
Advertising
They
Get
A
Couple
Channels
Generally
It
Seems
To
Be
Accepted
That
The
Quality
Of
Their
Programming
Is
A
Little
Bit
Better
More
Educational
Less
Biased
But
You
Know
What
I
Guess
That
That's
A
Personal
Opinion
Thing
Some
People
A
Personal
Opinion
Thing
I
Tried
To
Say
And
Some
People
Like
It
Some
People
Don't
Some
People
Disagree
With
That
System
And
Try
To
Skip
Out
On
The
Fees
Other
People
Don't
Mind
And
I
Guess
That's
On
A
Case
By
Case
Basis
So
Put
That
Topic
To
Bed
We
We've
Got
That
Now
As
Far
As
The
Real
Names
There's
Really
A
Couple
There's
A Couple
Reasons
Here
First
Reason
That
I
Have
Is
Because
If
They
Don't
Say
Otherwise
I
Always
Am
Careful
Not
To
Read
Their
Real
Name
Or
Email
Address
Because
Of
The
Simple
Fact
That
Here
In
The
United
States
And
Around
The
World
It's
No
Different
People
Are
Still
Afraid
Of
Hackers
They
Still
Have
This
Predisposition
Of
What
A
Hacker
Is
And
What
Hackers
Talk
About
And
So
I
Just
Don't
Want
To
Mention
Anybody's
Real
Name
On
A
Hacking
Radio
Show
It's
Just
That
Simple
I'll
Read
It
As
A
Handle
I'll
Read
It
As
An
Anonymous
Listener
Anything
Like
That
But
I
Just
Don't
Want
To
Drop
Somebody's
Real
Name
And
You
Know
What
If
They're
At
Work
And
Somebody
Walks
By
And
Here's
Their
Name
On
A
Hacker
Show
Or
Here
It's
Just
The
Potential
For
Embarrassment
Even
If
We
Believe
It's
Undue
Embarrassment
And
Unfair
Treatment
I
Just
Don't
Want
To
Put
Anybody
In
That
Kind
Of
Situation
I
Don't
Want
Somebody
To
Get
Fired
I
Don't
Want
Somebody
Get
In
Trouble
Or
Anything
Like
That
So
I'm
Just
Careful
Not
To
Do
That
But
The
Second
Reason
And
Lucky
You
Could
Value
This
One
More
Than
Me
It's
Just
Simple
Privacy
Yep
That's
All
You
Have
To
Say
About
That
You're
Mr
Privacy
Common
Sense
People
Don't
Want
Their
Docs
Dropped
On
The
Air
Like
I
Mean
You
Know
Anyone
Can
Listen
To
The
Show
It's
Broadcasted
Over
The
Internet
And
Someone
Doesn't
Like
Your
Particular
Opinion
You
Know
We
Got
Psychos
Out
There
That
Will
Hunt
You
Down
Kill
You
Yeah
And
You
Know
I
Know
You're
Saying
That
As
A
Joke
But
There
Really
Sometimes
You
Never
Know
I
Mean
People
Get
Stalkers
Out
There
You
Make
A
Certain
Political
Opinion
Or
You
Make
A
Certain
Opinion
On
A
On
A
Site
Or
A
Product
And
Suddenly
Everybody
Wants
To
Come
After
You
You're
Getting
Denial
Of
Service
Attacks
You're
Getting
There's
Some
People
Out
There
That
Don't
Get
It
And
Support
The
TV
Fees
Thing
In
The
UK
And
Then
Some
Nut
Job
Over
There
Who's
An
Extremist
And
Says
No
You're
Wrong
And
I'm
Going
To
Show
You
You're
Wrong
By
Making
You
A
Martyr
And
I
Don't
Want
Anything
Weird
Stuff
Like
That
Happening
I
Just
Play
It
Careful
That's
All
Yeah
I
Just
Play
It
Careful
It's
Not
Because
They
Don't
Want
It
It's
Because
I
Don't
Want
It
So
No
One
Emails
Me
And
Says
Please
Don't
Use
My
Real
Name
Or
Anything
Like
That
Well
Sometimes
They
Do
That
Too
But
Which
Of
Course
We
Respect
But
If
They
Say
Nothing
Either
Way
I
Just
Err
On
The
Caution
And
Don't
Say
It
That's
Very
Easy
Answer
Definitely
Let's
See
Where's
Our
Next
Email
On
The
International
Extravaganza
I
Just
Like
Saying
That
Extravaganza
Say
It
With
Me
Extravaganza
There
We
Go
See
That's
A
Cool
Word
Next
Email
Is
From
Hey
We
Have
Fun
On
The
Show
Next
Email
Is
From
Jab
Or
Is
J
A
B
It's
Probably
Jab
Or
Badge
Backwards
I
Don't
Know
Why
I'm
Reading
Everything
Backwards
Today
And
It
Says
Hey
Guys
My
Name
Is
Jab
Or
J
A
B
Or
Whatever
I'm
From
Germany
Ooh
We
Got
A
German
Listener
Welcome
And
Have
Discovered
Your
Show
A
Few
Weeks
Ago
As
I'm
New
To
The
Whole
Scene
I'm
Sorry
I'm
New
To
The
Whole
Scene
I
Need
Some
Help
Yeah
The
Whole
I'm
Sorry
Let
Me
Start
Over
As
I'm
New
To
The
Whole
Scene
I
Need
Some
Help
Getting
Into
This
Security
Thing
Do
You
Have
One
Or
Two
Nice
Links
To
Boards
Communities
That
Might
Be
Helpful
To
A
Noob
Would
Be
Very
Nice
If
You
Got
Some
Infos
For
Me
To
Get
Started
Yeah
Bin
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Bin
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Just
Bin
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In
General
Any
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Our
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Of
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Hand
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We
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It's
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He
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We
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We
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To
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You
Pay
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We'll
Ship
It
Over
To
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And
You
Know
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Show
I
Mean
We
Try
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Actually
Have
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In
The
Show
I
Mean
We
Have
Fun
And
We
Joke
A
Lot
But
There's
Some
Serious
Topics
And
That's
Usually
On
The
Shows
That
I'm
Not
On
Shut
Up
That's
Not
True
That's
Not
True
So
Yeah
That's
Really
All I
Can
Tell
You
Go
To
Those
Sites
And
There's
You
Know
Google
You
Know
I
Hate
Saying
That
Answer
Because
When
You
Tell
Somebody
To
Google
It
Sounds
Like
You're
Being
A
Smart
Alec
But
You
Know
What
You
Got
To
Just
Go
Out
And
Start
Learning
How
To
Search
And
Finding
That
Information
On
Your
Own
But
To
Find
Some
It
In
One
Place
To
Get
Started
Which
Is
What
He
Wants
I
Can't
Think
Of
Any
Better
Place
Than
Those
Sites
That
We
Mention
So
Keep
Listening
To
The
Show
And
Listen
To
The
Old
Episodes
As
Well
Go
Back
And
Listen
To
Season
One
Start
With
The
Beginning
Or
Start
With
The
Current
And
Work
Backwards
I
Think
They'll
Hold
Up
Pretty
Well
Find
The
Topics
That
You'll
Learn
About
Phishing
What
It
Is
How
It
Works
Some
Of
The
Things
That
They
Do
And
Why
Etc
You
Can
Go
Back
And
Listen
To
Geez
Any
Number
Of
Episodes
The
VoIP
Episode
They're
Just
All
Kind
We've
Had
Several
Asterisk
We've
Had
Database
Relational
Database
Episode
And
That
Stuff
Is
Still
Holds
Up
Well
So
Go
Back
And
Listen
To
Some
Of
Those
Older
Episodes
Okay
Next
Email
Is
From
B
Ryman
In
The
International
Extravaganza
And
He
Emails
From
Canada
Does
Canada
Count
They're
Still
In
North
America
It
Is
A
Different
Country
It
Is
But
They're
In
North
America
We'll
Count
That
As
International
I
Tell
You
Why
Don't
You
Read
This
Email
I
Want
To
Hear
You
I
Want
To
Hear
You
Read
This
Email
I
Want
To
Sit
Back
And
Listen
To
You
Say
These
Alright
Here
We
Go
From
B
Ryman
Let's
Start
This
Off
Right
Don't
Change
It
Stay
Dog
For
The
For
Our
FM
Radio
Listeners
Exactly
Broadcasters
You
Better
Get
Ready
To
Make
An
Edit
Now
You
Fucking
Rock
Mainly
The
Only
Reason
I
Listen
To
Your
Show
Is
Because
You
Make
It
So
Damn
Interesting
I
Was
Wondering
If
You
Could
Do
Something
On
Plam
Pilots
I
Think
He
Means
Palm
Pilots
Keep
Reading
I
I'm
Sure
He
Probably
Met
Palm
Pilots
Keep
Reading
See
If
He
Says
It
Again
I
Was
Wondering
If
It
Was
At
All
Possible
To
Use
A
Plan
Pilot
As
A
Plan
Pilot
We
Don't
Know
What
A
Plan
Pilot
Is
Maybe
That's
A
Canadian
Exclusive
Product
Yeah
That's
Canadian
Version
Of
The
Palm
Pilot
Okay
He
Was
Wondering
If
It
Is
At
All
Possible
To
Use
It
As
A
Free
Cell
Phone
Maybe
Using
Skype
Or
Some
Program
I
Really
Think
Plan
Pilots
Are
Going
To
Take
Us
To
The
Truckaholic
Side
Of
The
Universe
Plus
They
Are
Just
So
Cool
I
Really
Wish
I
Could
Get
One
And
I
And
If
I
Did
I
Was
Wondering
What
One
Would
Be
Oh
I
Suck
At
Reading
Today
I
Was
Trying
To
Be
The
Best
Bang
For
Buck
Drink
Some
Beer
Eat
Some
Bacon
And
Ski
On
Up
You're
Fan
B
Rhyming
I
Was
Trying
To
Prove
To
The
Audience
That
You
Are
In
Fact
Literate
But
You
Didn't
Really
Help
Your
Cause
A
Whole
Lot
There
I
Sorry
Man
I
I'm
A
Little
Bit
Tired
Beer
And of
Course
We're
Just
Kidding
With
B
Rhyming
But
Yeah
B
Rhyming
Used
The
Word
Plan
Pilot
Three
Different
Times
I'm
Sure
That
Was
A
Typo
And
I'm
The
Last
I'm
The
Last
Person
To
Talk
About
Typos
But
Yeah
You
Know
If
We
Want
To
Go
On
The
Topic
Sure
Plan
Pilots
Are
Okay
I
Guess
But
I
Don't
Think
They're
Really
The
Way
To
Go
Right
Now
Myself
And
I
Don't
Know
If
You
Have
Any
Experience
Using
Them
From
The
Cell
Phone
He
Was
Mentioning
About
Using
Skype
And
Things
Like
That
I
Don't
Know
If
You've
Ever
Done
Any
Research
Or
Know
Anything
About
That
But
I
Would
Suspect
That
A
Pocket
PC
Might
Be
More
Apt
For
That
I
Don't
Know
That
Skype
Makes
A
Client
That
Will
Run
On
Those
Or
Yeah
I
Doubt
It
Yeah
Or
Some
Alternatives
But
If
There
Was
I
Think
It
Would
Be
On
Some
Of
The
Pocket
PC
Based
PDAs
Not
On
The
Plam
Pilots
The
Plam
Pilots
Are
Played
Out
I
Mean
Plam
The
Company
Is
Getting
Just
Beat
By
The
What's
That
Other
One
The
Who
Was
It
That
Split
Off
And
Made
Their
Own
Company
They
Used
To
Work
For
Plam
No
Idea
I
Can't
Think
Of
It
Off
The
Top
Of
My
Head
But
They
Oh
Man
Drawing
A
Blank
Here
Somebody
Will
Email
Me
I'm
Sure
A
Million
People
But
Companies
Broke
Off
And
Started
Making
Knockoffs
Of
Them
And
Cheaper
And
Undercutting
Them
And
They're
Just
I
Don't
Think
The
Plam
Pilot
Is
The
Way
To
Go
Right
Now
I
Say
The
Pocket
PC
If
You
Want
To
Really
Explore
Stuff
Like
That
I
Know
Droops
Has
Uses
His
Pocket
PC
For
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
I
Don't
Know
If
It's
A
True
Pocket
PC
Or
Just
A
Window
CE
Device
Or
What
But
I
Think
You'll
Find
More
Stuff
Like
That
Because
The
Matter
Is
As
Much
As
You
Want
To
Say
About
Microsoft
They
Offer
A
Lot
Of
Tools
And
Support
For
Developers
I
Should
Have
Played
That
Clip
Right
There
Huh
Yeah
They
Actually
It's
A
Little
Bit
Easier
To
Develop
Stuff
For
Them
I
Know
Palm
Pilot
Excuse
Me
Plam
Pilot
And
I
Know
Plam
Also
Makes
Software
Development
Kits
But
The
Other
Thing
Is
The
Market
Drives
Sales
And
Drives
Demand
And
The
Fact
Of
The
Matter
Is
The
Big
Market
Here
The
Big
Money
Users
Are
Business
Having
That
Pointing
Click
They
Like
The
Windows
Interface
It's
Comfortable
To
Them
So
They're
The
Ones
Buying
And
Spending
So
That's
The
Market
That's
Being
Catered
To
And
That's
The
Market
That's
Becoming
More
Successful
So
I
Mean
Your
Likelihood
Of
Finding
Applications
Of
Any
Type
Are
Probably
Going
To
Be
Higher
On
Some
Sort
Of
Pocket
PC
Or
Windows
Based
PDA
The
Plan
Pilots
It's
And
I
Know
There's
Some
Plan
Pilot
Lovers
Out
There
That
Are
Going
To
Email
Me
I'm
Not
Saying
It's
Bad
Or
Anything
Or
Negative
I'm
Just
Saying
That
If
You
Want
Application
Support
For
Some
Of
Things
That
It
Sounds
Like
You're
Trying
To
Do
I
Think
The
Pocket
PC
Is
The
Way
To
Go
Anyway
Thank
You
I'm
Going to
Have
To
Agree
With
You
Thanks
A lot
For
The
Email
Of
Course
We're
Kind
Of
Teasing
You
About
Your
Plan
Pilot
Spelling
There
But
Like
I said
I'm
The
Last
Person
To
Talk
About
Typos
Anybody
That's
Ever
Had
Instant
Message
Conversations
With
Me
Knows
That
I'm
The
Worst
Person
About
Typos
So
I'm
Not
Going
To
Make
Fun
Of
You
For
Your
Plan
Pilot
Wait
I
Guess
I
Already
Did
Okay
Whatever
All
Right
Next
All
Right
A
One
More
Email
And
This
Is
A
Really
Good
One
I
Thought
This
Was
A
Very
Good
Topic
That
I
Really
Kind
Of
I'm
Looking
Forward
To
Talking
About
This
Is
From
Cenobite
And
Cenobite
Says
Hi
Excellent
Article
Glad
You
Got
That
Point
Across
Now
He's
Talking
About
My
Article
In
The
Current
2600
Magazine
Which
Lucky
I
Know
You
Love
That
Article
The
Hacking
The
Lottery
My
Hacking
The
Lottery
Article
So
He's
Referring
To
That
Says
The
Only
Time
I
Really
Played
The
Lottery
Was
When
I
Was
Working
A
Lousy
Job
And
Because
One
Of
My
Co-workers
Called
It
His
Faint
Hope
Clause
Which
Is
That
Yeah
That's
A
Funny
Idea
I
Kind
Of
Like
That
Actually
Random
Numbers
And
If
There
Are
Statistical
Ways
To
Check
For
Randomness
While
You
May
Not
Win
The
Lottery
By
Playing
Maybe
You
Can
Use
Their
Numbers
For
Other
Things
I
Know
There
Seems
To
Be
A
Demand
Out
There
For
A
Good
Random
Number
Generator
And
This
One
Doesn't
Need
A
Seed
On
The
Other
Hand
Perhaps
You
Could
Use
Physics
To
Calculate
Odds
On
The
Lotteries
I
Wonder
If
The
Balls
Are
All
Dropped
In
Same
Order
Or
All
At
Once
Probably
Forms
A
Chaotic
System
But
It
Would
Be
Interesting
I
See
Yeah
I
Think
That
Is
I
Think
That's
A
Great
Question
It's
A
Great
Point
And
It
Is
Interesting
Now
Well
You
Know
What
I
Have
A
Question
For
You
Actually
Shoot
Go
For
It
Since
The
Lottery
Seems
To
Be
Played
Out
Every
Week
And
The
Odds
Of
Winning
Are
One
In
A
Gazillion
Right
How
Come
One
Person
Always
Seems
To
Win
Every
Week
Well
One
Person
Doesn't
Always
Win
I
Know
Right
Now
In
Florida
The
Lottery
Is
Up
To
Like
60
Million
Or
Something
I
Don't
Know
If
Anybody
Won
It
This
Week
But
It's
Been
Building
Up
And
Building
Up
And
Even
If
It
Was
Every
Week
I
Bet
You
If
You
Looked
At
How
Many
People
Played
During
That
Week
You
Would
Find
That
It
Is
Definitely
Over
Those
Odds
I
Know
It
Seems
Like
Because
Somebody
Wins
Every
Week
It
Seems
Like
Not
But
If
They
Sold
150
Million
Tickets
And
The
Odds
Are
101
In
150
Million
If
Somebody
Wins
That
Is
Keeping
Up
With
Statistics
That
Very
Much
Is
Keeping
Up
With
Statistics
So
A
Not
Only
Is
The
Statistics
Working
For
Them
Not
Only
Are
The
Statistics
Working
For
Them
I
Should
Say
On
Top
Of
That
The
Way
They
Do
The
Payout
And
This
Is
Something
I
Did
Not
Touch
In
That
Article
This
Is
Because
This
Is
Not
Really
Technical
At
All
But
To
Get
To
A
Conspiracy
Theory
Point
Here
The
Other
Thing
The
Way
They
Get
You
Is
The
Way
Hand
Out
And
Gets
A
Big
Cut
They
Will
Take
Half
Of
It
Or
Almost
Half
Yeah
Secondly
They
Will
Do
That
Payment
Plan
Where
They
Offer
You
Payments
For
So
Many
Years
Yeah
Like
26
Annual
Payments
Well
In
The
Meantime
While
They're
Doing
That
They're
Sitting
On
All
The
Interest
That
Money
Makes
And
They're
Using
All
That
Interest
To
Go
Back
Into
Their
Fund
So
You
Really
Want
To
Get
Into
Conspiracy
I
Can't
Stand
The
Lottery
Because
There's
So
Many
Things
Going
Against
It
Another
Thing
And
A lot
Of
People
Know
That
Aspect
Of
It
Too
Another
Thing
That
I
Found
During
My
Research
And
This
Surprised
Me
Another
Little
Trick
That
They
Do
Is
That
What
They'll
Do
Is
Buy
Government
Bonds
They'll
Take
Money
Up
Front
And
Use
It
To
Buy
Government
Bonds
To
Be
Paid
Off
10
20
Years
In
The
Future
And
They
Buy
Them
At
Today's
Prices
And
Rates
The
Value
Of
Them
Goes
Up
Over
The
Course
Of
So
Many
Years
And
By
The
Time
It
Matures
It's
Made
Money
Again
So
These
People
Are
Making
Money
Hand
Over
Fist
And
They're
Only
Paying
Out
A
Fraction
Of
The
Amount
Of
Money
That
They
Take
In
So
Believe
It's
Legalized
Gambling
It's
Exactly
What
It
Is
And
I
Mentioned
In
The
Article
I
Wasn't
Going
To
Go
Into
That
Rant
But
You
Know
What
I
Guess
I
Can
Do
It
Here
On
The
Radio
Show
It's
Legalized
Gambling
They're
Going
To
Outlaw
Gambling
In
Certain
States
Yeah
Like
California
Where
They
Have
A
California
State
Lottery
Right
Where
They
Have
The
Biggest
State
Lottery
You
Know
It's
Okay
For
The
Government
To
Gamble
But
It's
Not
Okay
For
Other
People
You
Know
What
It's
More
Hypocrisy
In
Our
Government
Which
Is
How
Many
Times
We're
Going
To
Beat
That
Dead
Horse
Anyway
That
Is
Nothing
To
Do
With
The
Question
Actually
I
Wanted
To
Use
This
Email
As
A
Launching
Off
Point
A
Spring
Board
If
You
Will
Into
Talking
About
Random
Numbers
Especially
As
They
Relate
To
Computer
Systems
Now
This
Also
Could
Get
A
Little
Bit
Philosophical
Say
That
Ten
Times
Fast
This
Could
Get
A
Little
Philosophical
Because
There's
A
Couple
Ways
Of
Thinking
About
Random
Numbers
And
There
Really
Is
A
Couple
Trains
Of
Thought
On
This
People
Who
Believe
And
Follow
The
Science
If
You
Will
Of
Chaos
Theory
Believe
That
Everything
Is
Random
Each
And
Every
Single
Thing
Is
Random
But
On
The
Other
End
There
Are
Those
People
Who
Believe
That
Everything
In
The
Universe
Is
Predetermined
And
That
There's
A
Specific
Order
And
That
Everything
Happens
In
A
Predetermined
Fashion
So
There's
No
Such
Thing
As
True
Randomness
Everything
Can
Be
Predicted
So
You
Got
Two
Extreme
Thoughts
Right
There
Both
Of
Them
Are
Ineffective
When
It
This
Might
Get
A
Little
Deep
I
Hope
This
Doesn't
I'm
Trying
To
Just
Come
Up
With
The
Best
Way
To
Explain
This
Well
Basically
If
You
Believe
In
The
Order
That
Everything
Is
There's
An
Order
To
The
Universe
And
Everything
Can
Be
Predicted
The
Second
Missing
Aspect
Of
That
Is
Knowing
How
To
Predicted
So
If
You
Cannot
Predicted
Or
Don't
Know
How
To
Predict
It
Now
It
Is
Therefore
Unpredictable
By
Definition
It
May
Be
Predictable
In
The
Future
Maybe
We
May
Figure
Things
Out
With
Quantum
Physics
Quantum
Mechanics
We
May
Learn
How
To
Predict
Things
Better
In
The
Future
But
Right
Now
It
Is
Still
Unpredictable
Even
If
It
Is
The
T
Did
That
Make
Sense
At
All
Yeah
That
Made
That
Made
Perfect
Sense
Okay
Good
It's
Impossible
To
Do
It
Now
By
Any
Means
Because
Nobody
Knows
How
Yes
Now
Back
To
The
Chaos
Theory
People
Who
Believe
That
Everything
Is
Random
That's
Also
A
Good
Theory
But
As
A
Matter
Of
Fact
When
You
Try
Something
And
You
Get
99
Out
Of
100
Positive
Results
Or
99
Out
Of
100
That
Are
The
Same
And
Only
One
That
Turns
Different
Yes
I
That
Could
Be
Debated
That
There's
A
Random
Effect
There
That
Nothing
Can
Be
Predicted
With
Precision
However
It's
Not
Effectively
Random
For
Application
To
The
Needs
That
We
Have
Today
Something
Is
99
Out
Of
100
Yes
You
Can
Say
Well
Then
It's
Not
Random
Because
It
Didn't
Happen
Every
Single
Time
Like
You
Had
But
At
The
Same
Time
What
Good
Is
Something
That
Gives
You
The
Number
99
Out
Of
100
Times
So
It's
Not
Effective
It's
Not
Useful
That
Idea
Now
What
Is
Useful
And
The
Key
Word
Here
Is
Effective
When
It
Comes
To
Computers
Am
I
Way
Off
Here
I
Don't
Want
To
Get
Too
Weird
Or
Too
Deep
On
This
But
Our
Listeners
Can
Follow
This
I'm
Just
Trying
To
Speak
Clearly
On
It
That's
All
When
It
Comes
To
Computers
The
Generally
Accepted
Way
To
Create
A
Random
Number
Is
To
Use
A
Seed
That
Is
Effectively
Unpredictable
And
When
I
Say
Effectively
Meaning
You
Can't
Manually
Or
Even
With
The
Help
Of
A
Computer
Even
The
Same
Computer
Ironically
Predict
The
Results
Of
What
That
Seed
Will
Be
In
A
Computer
Generally
This
Is
Your
System
Clock
Not
Just
Obviously
Your
Hours
Are
Only
Going
To
Change
Very
Slowly
Your
Minutes
Change
A
Little
Faster
Your
Seconds
Go
Faster
But
When
You
Get
Down
To
Deep
Decimal
Position
4
5
6
8
10
Decimals
Deep
Those
Numbers
Are
Whizzing
By
So
Fast
That
It
Is
Effectively
Unpredictable
What
That
Ninth
Digit
Out
There
Is
Going
To
Be
Right
If
I
Asked
You
Losing
Me
There
Okay
If
I
Asked
You
Right
Now
I
Said
Lucky
Right
Now
What
Time
Is
It
7
40
Okay
You
Can
Answer
And
Tell
Me
7
40
Which
Is
Completely
Wrong
But
Okay
Whatever
7
40
You
Can
Predict
The
7
Right
And
I
If
I
Asked
You
About
What
Time
It
Is
You
Say
It
About
7
If
I
Asked
You
What
Time
If
I
Asked
You
7
40
And
How
Many
Seconds
Could
You
Tell
Me
That
If
I
Was
Looking
At
My
Watch
If
You
Had
A
Okay
And
That
That's
Exactly
What
I'm
Getting
At
That's
Exactly
What
I
Wanted
You
To
Say
You
Can
Look
At
Your
Watch
And
You
Can
See
The
Seconds
Hands
If
You
Have
That
Can
You
Tell
Me
What
The
Time
Is
To
The
Fourth
Decimal
Precision
For
Example
740
Point
0
7
1
6
Can
You
Tell
Me
That
Well
I
Might
Be
Able
To
Tell
You
It
But
I
Want
To
Spit
It
Out
Before
That
Time
Had
Already
Pass
Exactly
The
Point
You
Would
Not
Be
Able
To
Predict
It
So
It
Is
Effectively
Unpredictable
As
An
Effective
C
And
That's
Why
It's
Used
In
Computer
Programming
And
Computer
Applications
And
It's
Kind
Of
Funny
Because
When
You
Think
Of
It
Doesn't
Get
Any
More
Predictable
Than
That
Time
Is
Constant
It's
Always
Moving
It's
Always
Incremental
It
Seems
Illogical
It
Seems
Like
I'm
Like
I
Don't
Know
Dude
It
Doesn't
Get
Any
More
Unpredictable
But
All
You're
Getting
From
That
Is
A
Seed
It
Is
Effectively
Unpredictable
And
You
Basically
And
Again
You
Can
Actually
Use
That
Because
The
Farthest
Precision
You
Can
Get
It's
Going
To
Be
Effectively
Unpredictable
If
You
Hit
The
Spacebar
Ten
Times
You're
Going
To
Get
Ten
Random
Numbers
From
Those
Precision
It's
Effectively
By
Itself
Effectively
Unpredictable
But
What
A
Lot
Of
People
Do
Is
Well
First
Of
All
They
Use
It
As
A
Seed
You
Know
It
Can
Be
Random
By
Itself
But
Usually
Use
That
As
A
Seed
And
What
You
Take
What
You
Do
Is
You
Take
That
Seed
And
Then
Multiply
It
By
Some
Other
Effective
Number
Even
Another
Random
Seed
A
Split
Second
Later
Because
Those
Precision
Decimals
In
A
Split
Second
Have
Changed
Yeah
You
Know
They're
Unrelated
So
You
Can
Multiply
It
Times
Another
Time
Stamp
A
Split
Second
Later
And
It's
Going
To
Hard
Or
Near
Impossible
And
Therefore
Effectively
Unpredictable
Effectively
Random
To
Do
That
Or
You
Can
Just
Multiply
It
By
Something
Like
Pi
Some
Kind
Of
Number
Like
E
Or
Again
Another
Time
Stamp
Or
Any
Other
Number
Like
That
You
Can
Multiply
It
Out
That's
What
People
Normally
Do
In
Computer
Programs
That
Makes
An
Effectively
Random
Number
For
All
Intensive
Purposes
Something
That
You
Couldn't
Recreate
Something
That
You
Couldn't
Know
Something
That
You
Can
Never
Predict
Even
With
The
Help
Of
Another
Computer
Or
Even
Being
On
The
Same
Computer
Because
When
That
Program
Grabs
It's
Time
Stamp
To
The
Ninth
Precision
Even
If
You
Had
A
Sniffer
Running
That
Triggered
Something
Else
To
Run
It's
Even
A
Computer
Is
Not
Fast
Enough
To
Grab
That
Exact
Same
Time
Stamp
To
The
Ninth
Tenth
Precision
That
You
Would
Really
Want
To
Use
Did
That
Is
That
Did
That
Go
Right
Did
That
Sound
Okay
Did
That
Sound
Okay
I
Really
That
Was
A
Very
Cool
Question
And
Actually
That
That's
Kind
Of
Going
Off
A
Tangent
Of
His
Question
Yeah
He
Actually
Was
Saying
Using
The
Lottery
Results
The
Balls
From
The
Lottery
System
They
Track
Those
Over
Try
To
Find
A
Pattern
And
I
Mentioned
That
Finding
Patterns
But
He
Had
An
Interesting
Idea
Of
Using
Those
Numbers
As
Seeds
And
Really
The
Only
The
Only
Drawback
To
That
Would
Be
That
They're
Limited
To
The
Number
Of
Balls
I
Mean
You
Got
1
To
53
Or
1
To
48
Or
1
To
60
Or
Whatever
What
Is
It
In
California
Do
You
Know
I
Have
No
Idea
1
To
100
But
You
Only
Got
53
You
Know
You
Have
To
Come
Up
With
Some
Tricky
Equations
Or
Some
Algorithms
To
Manipulate
It
And
It
Wouldn't
Really
Be
Kind
Of
Defeats
The
Point
Time
Is
Infinite
Time
Is
Ever
Changing
Even
If
It's
Predictable
Even
Though
It's
On
The
Same
Path
Using
That
Precision
That
That's
Really
The
Best
That
You
Can
Get
So
Wow
That
Wait a
Minute
Did I
Take
Your
Breath
Away
Are
You
Going
To
Have
A
Heart
Attack
There
Or
What
I'm
Fearing
Over
Here
Are
You
Okay
Well
Speaking
Of
Fearing
I'm
Fearing
Your
Media
Horridness
Is
That
So
We'll
Segway
Into
The
Show
And
Tell
Portion
Of
The
Show
Because
You
Actually
Have
Show
And
Tell
To
Talk
About
You
Were
Mentioned
And
Only
You
In
Wired
Magazine
And
Not
Only
Me
Out
Of
The
DDP
And
Set
Associates
Yeah
Well
And
That's
I
Wanted
You
To
Talk
About
That
I
Know
You
Talked
About
This
And
We'll
Pimp
Out
That
You
Guys
Recorded
A
Special
Thanksgiving
Episode
Of
Default
Radio
Where
You
Also
Talked
About
This
A
Little
Bit
Yeah
So
There
You
Go
Listen
to
That
But
The
Short
The
Short
Version
Of
That
Story
Was
Basically
The
Yeah
Like
You
Said
I
Had
Been
Mentioned
In
Wired
Magazine
They
Seemed
To
Want
To
Pimp
Me
Out
For
Some
Reason
Even
Though
They
Interviewed
Strom
And
Then
They
Used
Quotes
That
Strom
Had
Said
And
Made
It
Look
Like
I
Had
Said
Them
Yeah
I
Don't
You
Know
I
Know
That
They
Did
That
But
It
Makes
You
I
Mean
I
Don't
Like
The
That
Puts
You
The
Light
That
Paints
You
As
Though
You
Somehow
Did
That
Or
Yeah
Like
I
Had
Manipulated
It
To
Only
Include
Me
Which
You
I
Not
Trying
To
Exclude
Anyone
Right
No
I
Mean
I
Know
For
A
Fact
I
Mean
You
And
Strom
Made
That
Presentation
At
Defcon
That's
What
They
Talked
About
Yeah
You
Know
And
I
Think
Natus
Got
Slided
A
Little
Bit
If
I'm
Correct
And
Oh
Yeah
They
Talked
To
Natus
He
Was
Just
Totally
You
Know
Him
And
Strom
Neither
Of
Them
Appeared
In
That
Article
So
It's
Like
What
The
Hell
Yeah
So
And
The
Other
Thing
Is
I
Went
And
Looked
I
Actually
You
Know
What
I
Have
It
Right
Here
In
Front
Of
Me
Hold
On
And
The
Person
Who
Wrote
That
Article
I
Don't
Think
You
Guys
Mentioned
This
On
Default
But
I
Looked
This
Up
And
Do
You
Know
Who
Wrote
That
Article
Annalee
Newitz
From
EFF
From
The
EFF
That
Blew
Me
Away
Yeah
I
Talked
To
Her
On
The
Phone
A
Couple
Times
And
She
Seemed
Like
A
Real
Cool
Person
And
To
Tell
You
The
Truth
I'm
Not
Really
Sure
If
This
Is
Her
Fault
Because
I
Think
She
Relays
This
Information
To
People
At
Wired
And
They
Rewrite
The
Article
For
Her
You
I
Would
Gosh
I
Wish
There
Was
Some
Way
We
Could
Get
Her
On
And
Find
That
Find
Out
For
Sure
Because
Well
I
Do
Have
Her
Phone
Number
Somewhere
So
I
Could
Definitely
Give
Her
A
Call
Sometime
Later
And
Be
Like
Yeah
What
The
Hell
Yeah
Right
We
Should
Yeah
Darn it
We
Should
Have
Planned
That
Maybe
We
Can
Put
That
On
An
Upcoming
Show
Somehow
But
Yeah
Just
When
I
Saw
That
It
Was
Her
That
Wrote
It
And
I
Met
I
Really
Don't
Think
She
Had
Any
Intentions
Of
It
Coming
Out
Like
That
And
I
Mean
That
Would
Really
Reflect
That
On
The
EFF
Yeah
I
Would
Feel
That
Would
Really
Bother
Me
If
I
Found
Out
That
The
EFF
Somebody
That
I
Supported
Didn't
Have
Journalistic
Integrity
I
Mean
Yeah
There's
Got
I
Don't
Know
I
Really
Hope
That
There's
More
To
The
Story
And
That's
Why
About
It
Yet
Your
Assignment
For
Our
Listeners
Want
To
Know
We
Want
The
Truth
We
Can
Handle
The
Truth
Your
Listeners
Want
To
Know
About
My
Media
Whoring
Right
Now
My
Listeners
Don't
Want
Me
To
Yell
In
The
Microphone
Like
I
Just
Did
But
Yeah
No
Seriously
Can
You
Find
Out
I'd
Like
To
Hear
What
Happened
I'd
Like
To
Hear
What
Wired
Does
To
The
Articles
If
Anything
I'd
Like
To
Hear
How
That
Process
Works
Just
For
The
Knowledge
Of
It
Just
Because
I
Know
From
My
Own
You
Know
We
Were
Supposed
To
Do
A
Photo
Shoot
They
Canceled
That
On
Us
You
Know
And
I
Had
Received
A
Couple
Calls
From
Back
Checkers
From
Wired
Magazine
That
Like
Wanted
To
Confirm
A
Couple
Things
You
Know
And
I
Try
And
Get
Something
Right
For
Them
And
It
Didn't
Come
Out
Right
In
The
Article
It
Came
Out
Halfway
Decent
But
Well
They
Canceled
The
Photo
Shoot
When
They
Saw
You
Oh
Boom
Owned
Yeah
That's
Really
Sad
That
They
Would
Do
That
And
The
Other
Thing
Is
The
Article
Itself
Was
About
Cell
Phone
It
Wasn't
Even
About
VoIP
Yeah
It's
Like
Did
They
Switch
Topics
In
Mid
What
Is
That
About
I
Think
They
Had
Like
A
Little
Bit
Of
Left
Over
Material
From
A
Couple
Different
Articles
And
They
Just
Shuffled
Them
All
Together
Into
One
Yeah
That
You
Know
I
Don't
Know
Anyway
What
Else
You
Got
Going
On
There
And
Gwasti
Well
Not
Much
Man
Not
Much
At
All
Not
Much
I
Got
A
I
Got
A
Stop
Signed
Ticket
That
I
I'm
Preparing
To
Beat
Here
That's
About
It
Oh
Good
Grief
Oh
Well
I'll
Tell
You
What
We'll
Save
That
Story
Once
You
Get
A
Result
If
You
Beat
It
You
Can
Tell
Us
That
Story
And
How
And
When
You
Lose
You
Can
Tell
Us
That
Story
Too
Alright
Okay
Um
I've
Actually
Had
A
Pretty
Busy
Week
I
Um
Uh
Oh
And
Again
Just
To
Reiterate
Default
Radio
Dot
Com
Go
Download
That
New
Thanksgiving
Episode
That
Was
Really
Cool
Decoder
Came
Back
You
Doug
The
Engineer
All
Did
An
Episode
So
That
Was
Cool
So
Go
Download
That
At
Default
Radio
Dot
Com
Do
You
Know
What
Episode
That
Was
Do
You
Guys
Go
By
Numbers
Or
What
Thirty
Eight
I
Don't
Know
What
It
Doesn't
Matter
Um
I
Went
Out
Being
The
Consumer
That
I
Am
I
Did
Not
Go
Out
On
Black
Friday
And
Buy
This
But
Last
Week
Only
Thing
I
Bought
On
Black
Friday
Was
I
Got
Up
At
The
Crack
Of
Popcorn
And
That
Was
It
So
Screw
You
Guys
I
I'm
Going
Home
But
Before
That
I
Went
Out
And
Bought
One
Of
Those
New
Nintendo
DS
The
Dual
Screen
The
Touchscreen
Game
Boy
Thing
You
Know
Nintendo
Just
Seems
Like
They're
Making
The
Same
Game
Boy
Systems
Over
And
Over
I
Don't
Know
What's
Up
With
That
I
Don't
Know
What's
Up
With
It
Either
But
I
Didn't
Have
Any
Of
Them
So
I
Figured
Hey
It
Sounds
Like
A
Good
One
To
Start
With
Because
It
Has
Built
In
Wi-Fi
That's
Really
One
Of
The
Things
That
Attracted
Me
I
Wanted
To
See
How
Their
Wi-Fi
Worked
What
They
Done
To
Implemented
How
They
Maintained
Wi-Fi
With
Batteries
Because
It's
Very
Needs
A
Lot
Of
Power
Running
Wi-Fi
So
I
Wanted
To
See
How
They
Got
The
Balance
Between
The
Two
And
I
Just
Like
Touch
Screens
I
Just
Like
Touch
Screen
Systems
So
It
Had
A
Touch
Screen
On
The
Bottom
And
A
Screen
On
The
Top
I
Wanted
To
See
How
They
Interacted
It's
Actually
Pretty
Cool
I
Gotta
Say
I
Am
Impressed
And
The
Real
Reason
Let's
Get
The
Bottom
Line
The
Real
Reason
Because
It
Had
Mario
64
On
It
My
All
Time
Favorite
Game
The
Greatest
Game
Ever
I
Don't
Care
Send
Me
Hate
Mail
I
Don't
Care
Mario
64
Is
The
Coolest
Game
Ever
On
Any
Console
Playstation
Sucks
No
Forget
About
It
Any
Even
You
Know
That's
From
The
Nintendo
64
Not
The
Game
Cube
That's
Back
On
The
64
So
They
Got
This
One
The
Same
Game
That
Was
On
That
Big
Cube
That
You
Set
In
Your
Living
Room
Before
The
Nintendo
64
Box
Now
In
The
Palm
Of
Your
Hand
The
Same
Power
Running
The
Same
Game
And
Engine
Is
Identical
With
Extra
Levels
And
Stuff
Added
On
To
It
Very
Impressive
Very
Impressive
Very
Fun
And
Addictive
Game
And
Also
I
Want
Somebody
To
Email
Me
If
They
Know
This
Maybe
I
Should
Probably
Talk
To
C4
The
Guys
Over
Gamer
That's
Games
And
More
Entertainment
Radio
There's
Some
Kind
Of
Weird
I
Don't
Know
What
To
Call
It
A
Mystery
A
Conspiracy
Theory
I
Went
Out
And
I
Just
Couldn't
Honestly
I
Don't
I
Was
So
Confused
I
Don't
Know
What's
Going
On
But
There's
Some
Kind
Of
Weird
Conspiracy
Theory
About
The
Capabilities
Of
The
System
Because
Of
The
Fact
That
It
Has
Wi
Fi
And
There's
Some
Kind
Of
Weird
Marketing
Campaign
Going
On
Where
They're
Making
It
Sound
Like
Somehow
I
Guess
They're
Going
To
Some
Kind
Of
Wi-Fi
Canopy
That
They
Can
Communicate
With
The
Others
Like
If
You
Have
Two
Of
Them
Together
You
Can
Communicate
With
The
Other
One
Via
Wi-Fi
Or
Some
Other
Wireless
Standard
That's
Built
In
With
It
And
Play
A
Game
With
The
Other
Person
With
No
Wires
To
Connect
It
But
And I
Guess
Some
Of
The
Conspiracy
Theorists
Are
Saying
That
It's
Even
More
Powerful
Than
That
If
You
Actually
Had
Several
Of
Them
Together
That
Somehow
They
Acted
As
Like
A
Grid
Or
A
Repeater
If
Not
Figured
Out
They
Got
They
Put
Out
These
Slogans
And
These
Messages
That
Are
Backwards
And
Song
Lyrics
And
These
Ads
And
Videos
Of
Stuff
That's
Like
What
Does
That
Mean
What
Is
The
Significance
What's
The
Point
Of
This
Guy
In
A
Mask
Covering
A
Camera
I
Don't
Even
Know
What
It's
Supposed
To
Be
Saying
Please
Dumb
This
Down
For
Me
Somebody
I
Have
No
Idea
That
It's
Going
To
Be
Like
That
I
Love
Bees
Or
I
Like
Bees
Or
Whatever
Where
It's
Going
To
End
Up
Being
Just
A
Marketing
Campaign
That
Was
Some
Kind
Of
Halo
Microsoft
Campaign
Where
They
Mixed
Something
Into
The
Halo
Game
And
Had
People
All
Wondering
What
It
Was
And
Put
Up
A
Website
I
Think
It's
Going
To
End
Up
Being
A
Marketing
Thing
Like
That
I
Suspect
But
Some
Of
The
Conspiracy
Theorists
Were
Saying
That
You
Can
Use
The
Game
Boy
As
A
VoIP
Phone
That
You
Would
Be
Able
To
Use
That
Wi-Fi
To
Hop
Get
On
Someone's
Internet
Connection
And
Have
A
VoIP
Line
I
Don't
I
Yeah
That's
What
I
Said
I
Think
That's
Really
Stretching
It
A
Lot
Because
Well
And
The
Reason
They
Say
That's
Because
It
Has
A
Microphone
In
Jack
Headphone
Jack
Has
A
Microphone
Theoretically
I
Guess
But
I
Don't
I
Don't
Know
What
I
I'm
Waiting
For
Somebody
To
Kick
A
Field
Goal
I
Don't
Know
What's
Happening
Anyway
Other
Than
That
One
Of
One
Of
Your
Favorite
Companies
AT&T
Wireless
I
Have
Come
To
The
Conclusion
That
They
Stink
I
Get
Dropped
Call
All
The
Time
I
Will
Be
At
Four
Five
Bars
Blam
I'm
Right
In
Mid
Conversation
Gone
And
I
Redial
It's
Just
They
Just
I
Explain
This
To
You
Before
The
Show
No
You
Started
To
And
I
Interrupted
You
And
Said
Explain
It
To
Me
On
The
Show
Okay
Explain
To
The reason
Is
Because
You're
Using
GSM
Which
AT&T
Now
Singular
No
They're
Still
Building
Mostly TDMA
Out
There
And
If
You
Would
Get
Yourself
A
T62U
Sony
Ericsson
Gotta
Pimp
That
Phone
Out
Cause
It's
Mine
The
Phone
Should
Matter
I
Got
A
V600
The
Phone
Is
Tight
Yeah
The
Phone
Is
Tight
But
It
Doesn't
Have
TDMA
Capability
Man
You
Cannot
Hop
Onto
TDMA
Towers
Which
Is
All
Florida
Has
Well
Then
What
Good
Is
It
To
Have
A
Phone
That
Supports
Everywhere
Else
They're
Still
Building
It
It's
A
New
Network
Man
Well
When
They
Do
That
I'll
Switch
Also
Now
And
But
I
Want
To
Correct
You
AT&T
Wireless
Merged
With
Singular
Somewhat
But
They're
Still
Operating
Independently
Right
Now
I
Was
Told
I
Was
Told
When
I
Got
My
Phone
Which
Is
This
Phone
I
Had
It
For
What
Two
Months
Maybe
Three
Months
At
The
Most
Yeah
They
Had
Just
Merged
Well
They
Merged
I
Guess
Five
Or
Six
Months
Ago
Four
Or
Five
I
Don't
Know
Something
Like
That
And
I
Was
Told
That
If
You're
An
AT&T
Wireless
Customer
Which
I
Was
Just
Signing
Up
I
Was
Allowed
To
Use
The
Sprint
Network
I'm
Sorry
The
Singular
Network
I
Was
Allowed
To
Singular
Towers
I
Was
Allowed
To
Piggy
Back
On
Their
Network
To
Try
Yeah
I
Hadn't
Bother
To
Try
Until
Well
Actually
A couple
Weeks
Go
I
Started
Really
Playing
Around
With
My
Phone
To
See
How
That
Would
Come
Out
Are
You
Getting
Another
Call
There
I
Might
Be
But
I
Guess
We're
Going
To
Keep
On
Going
Anyway
And
Just
Pretend
Nobody
Heard
That
Phone
Ringing
In
The
Background
Because
Somebody
Would
Call
Me
Knowing
That
I'm
Recording
A
Show
And
Can't
Stop
To
Answer
The
Phone
Right
Now
But
I'm
Sure
They'll
Call
Back
When
I'm
Not
Recording
My
Show
I
See
So
Mr.
Decoder
Who
Thinks
He's
Important
And
Just
Got
Hung
Up
On
Will
Call
Me
Back
Owned
So
Anyway
Not
Okay
So
Anyway
Supposedly
I
Can
Use
That
Network
So
I
Got
To
Playing
Around
With
My
Phone
I
Got
So
Frustrated
With
Dropped
Calls
And
Stuff
That
I
Went
Into
My
Phone
And
When
I
Do
A
Search
For
Networks
I
Do
See
Singular
On
There
Listed
And
I
See
T-Mobile
Listed
So
I
Switched
It
Over
To
Singular
And
It
Worked
And
Now
It
Says
Singular
On
My
Phone
Even
Though
It
Says
AT&T
Wireless
On
The
Physical
Phone
Itself
And
I
Switched
It
Back
Just
Because
I
Don't
Want
Any
Weird
Bills
Or
Anything
I
Want
To
Call
Them
And
Try
To
Straighten
It
Out
With
MC
Because
AT&T
Stinks
And
Their
Prices
Aren't
All
That
Great
In
The
First
Place
I
Can't
Wait
I
Was
Very
Happy
I
Thought
T-Mobile
Had
The
Best
Service
Down
Here
Yeah
Well
They
Probably
Do
Have
The
Market
On
The
GSM
Down
There
So
But
They
Would
Have
Just
I
Hope
You
I
Will
Be
Getting
It
Unlocked
Soon
I
Hope
Yeah
And
If
You
Don't
You
Sending
Me
The
Phone
Why
Am
I
Sending
You
The
Phone
Because
So
You
Can
Unlock
It
600
For
AT&T
If
Like
You're
Not
Going
To
Use
It
You
Better
Unlock
I
Should
Send
To
You
So
You
Can
Unlock
And
Send
It
Back
How
About
That
Yeah
Help
A
Brother
That
How
It
Will
Go
Down
Sure
It
Will
Oh
Okay
So
Other
Than
That
I
Will
I
Will
Again
Follow
Up
On
That
And
Try
To
Let
Everybody
Know
How
That
Comes
Out
I
Think
The
Coder
Is
Calling
Me
Now
But
Go
On
See
He's
Purposely
Trying
To
Another
Presentation
On
Hacking
Kiosk
Hacking
That
I'd
Like
To
Get
Done
And
Developed
Something
I'm
Trying
To
Work
With
Acidus
On
We
Talked
About
At
Freaknik
So
I
Just
Wrote
My
Very
First
Initial
Version
Of
That
And
I
Did
A
Little
Kiosk
Hacking
And
That's
What
Motivated
Me
Our
Walmart
The
Wally
World
Near
Me
Which
I
Never
Go
To
But
I
Went
To
Over
The
Weekend
Actually
No
I
Went
Last
Weekend
And
They
Had
A
New
Kiosk
In
There
Owned
And
It
Was
Pretty
Cool
I
Got
Some
Picture
Phone
Pictures
Of
That
And
Putting
Together
It
Got
Me
Motivated
To
Sit
Down
And
Start
It
So
I
Put
Down
The
Rough
Version
Of
That
Presentation
So
I'll
Be
Working
On
That
And
Hopefully
Get
That
Together
By
Def
Con
Or
Some
Other
The
Past
Couple
Of
Weeks
Oh
And
Not
To
Mention
A
Couple
Projects
That
I
Mean
We're
Going
To
Have
Some
Great
Christmas
Gifts
Coming
Up
Black
Ratchet
And
I
Have
Been
Working
Very
Hard
On
One
Project
In
Particular
And
Nick
84
And
I
Mostly
Nick
84
Have
Another
Project
That
Is
Done
And
Completed
And
Working
And
We're
Just
Doing
Some
Beta
Testing
On
Right
Now
That
Will
Definitely
Hopefully
Both
Of
Them
Will
Be
Announced
By
Christmas
And
Some
Upcoming
Shows
So
That's
What
I've
Been
Spending
A
Lot
Of
My
Time
On
As
Well
And
You
Know
What
Both
Of
Those
Are
Although
You
Probably
Forgot
Yeah
Probably
Anyway
Let's
Jump
Into
Our
Main
Topic
Tonight
Which
Is
A
Bit
Of
A
Rant
From
Me
But
I
Thought
We'd
Go
Over
Some
Basics
Before
I
Go
And
You
Being
The
Privacy
Nut
That
You
Are
You
Know
I'm
Sure
You
Can
Appreciate
A
Proxy
Server
For
What
It
Does
Although
They're
Not
All
As
Privacy
Friendly
As
People
Might
Think
And
That's
Really
One
And
Actually
Some
Proxy
Servers
Can
Actually
Be
Used
To
Invade
Your
Privacy
Yes
And
That's
A
Good
Point
Too
And
That's
Exactly
You
I
Want
To
Make
Sure
We
Leave
With
That
Point
I
Want
To
Make
Sure
We
Leave
That
Point
With
People
Before
We
Leave
This
Topic
So
Let's
Make
Sure
We
Remind
That
First
Of
What
A
Proxy
Server
Is
And
Well
It's
A
Server
Of
Course
And
Most
Of
The
Time
What
A
Proxy
Server
Is
For
Is
To
Be
An
Intermediary
Between
You
And
Another
Site
Generally
speaking
Most
Of
The
Time
It's
Another
Website
That's
The
Most
Common
Application
That
Allows
You
To
Surf
Some
Website
And
Again
Back
Earlier
To
The
Example
Of
People
Using
Their
Real
Name
And
Hacking
You
Know
Some
People
Don't
Want
To
Be
Associated
With
That
They
Want
To
Learn
They
Want
The
Information
But
They
Can't
Take
The
Risk
Of
Getting
Seen
At
Those
Sites
Or
Visiting
Those
Sites
And
That's
Where
A
Proxy
Server
Comes
In
You're
Visiting
The
Proxy
Server
You're
Not
Visiting
The
Remote
Site
So
You're
At
Point
A
The
Site
You
Want
To
Reach
Is
Point
C
A
Lot
Of
Schools
Net
Nanny
All
Those
Products
We've
Talked
About
In
The
Past
The
Way
Around
All
Of
Those
Is
Via
A
Proxy
Server
If
You
Can't
Get
To
Site
If
You
Can't
Get
To
A
Particular
Site
Because
You're
Blocked
Set Up
If
You
Can
Get
To
A
Proxy
Server
The
Proxy
Server
Can
Then
Visit
That
Site
For
You
Get
The
Information
Back
To
The
Proxy
Server
And
Hand
It
Back
To
You
And
You
Don't
Have
To
Access
The
Site
Directly
That's
The
Fundamental
Point
Of
Your
Basic
Proxy
Server
As
It
Relates
To
HTTP
And
Port
80
And
Web
And
Another
Thing
That
A
Lot
Of
Businesses
Actually
Use
Proxies
So
That
You're
Not
Visiting
The
Site
Directly
Yeah
And
There's
Many
Applications
Of
It
But
Fundamentally
They
All
Work
The
Same
They
All
Work
That
Same
Way
And
It
Doesn't
Have
To
Be
Web
Traffic
At
All
That's
Just
The
Most
Common
Use
You
Can
Go
To
Sites
For
Example
Like
Anonymizer
Dot
Com
Space
Proxy
Dot
Com
Why
What
Was
That
Oh
God
For
Anonymizer
Dot
Com
Man
That's
Old
School
Yeah
That's
Yeah
Are
They
Still
Around
I
Don't
Know
Dude
Yeah
I
Didn't
I
I'm
Not
Really
Sure
I
Don't
Even
Have
A
List
In
My
Notes
About
This
But
I
Just
Off
The
Top
Of
My
Head
Is
Space
Proxy
Gosh
You
Know
Where
I
Go
To
Get
My
Proxy
Servers
Stay
Invisible
Dot
Com
Okay
There's
Another
Good
They
Have
A
Nice
Comprehensive
List
Of
Updated
Proxies
It's
Updated
Like
Every
Hour
Well
I'm
Talking
About
Websites
Designed
For
Proxy
Web
Surfing
Right
Now
I
Wasn't
Going
To
Go
There
Yet
Oh
But
Since
You
Opened
The
Door
We
Will
Go
There
Are
Sites
That
You
Can
Visit
Like
I
Said
Space
Proxy
Etc
That
Will
Work
As
A
Web
Portal
For
You
To
Do
What
We
Talked
About
Earlier
That's
A
Publicly
Accessible
Website
That
Does
The
Same
Function
You
Don't
Have
To
Visit
A
Website
To
Act
As
A
Proxy
Server
You
Can
Actually
Visit
A
Server
Itself
Running
Proxy
Software
That
Disguises
Your
Original
Originating
Address
And
That's
Where
The
Site
You
Talked
About
Again
What
Was
That
URL
Stay
Invisible
Dot
Com
Okay
And
I
Use
I
Like
Stay
Invisible
Because
It
Tells
You
The
Amount
Of
Non-amidity
Like
That
The
Proxy
Will
Actually
Give
You
Like
Some
Proxies
Are
Just
That
It's
A
Simple
Proxy
And
It'll
Still
Forward
Your
IP
And
The
Headers
Right
And
That's
Well
And
That's
Coming
Up
To
When
I
Talk
When
I
Go
On
My
Rant
About
This
Particular
Product
I
Tried
I'm
Going
To
Explain
That
Very
Detailed
As
Well
That
All
Proxies
Are
Not
Alike
Yeah
But
Again
They
Can
Be
Used
For
FTP
Traffic
Any
Traffic
Any
Traffic
Basically
You'll
Just
Summarize
It
Like
That
Mostly
It's
For
Web
Traffic
In
General
But
It
Can
Be
Used
For
Any
Type
Of
Traffic
It
Depends
On
The
Proxy
Software
Too
Some
Of
It
Will
Only
Allow
You
To
Use
HTTP
Right
That's
What I
Insinuated
It's
On
Whatever
They
Respectively
Allow
You
To
Do
If
It's
An
FTP
Proxy
You
Can
Use
It
For
FTP
If
It's
An
HTTP
Proxy
Etc
Yeah
Alright
Well
I
Of
Course
Dabble
In
This
Quite
A
Bit
And
I
Found
A
New
Product
That
I
Decided
To
Try
Out
And
It's
Called
Steganos
Internet
Anonymity
Pro
7
Well
7
Version
Yeah
Right
And
I
Think
The
Website
Is
Steganos
S
T
E
G
A
N
O
S
You
Can
Google
For
But
I
Think
It's
Steganos
Dot
Com
But
Anyway
What
This
Does
Is
There
Gunfire
In
The
Background
Of
Your
House
What
Is
That
Geez
Let's
See
This
Now
The
Main
Function
Of
The
Software
Is
Exactly
What
I
Said
Internet
Anonymity
It
Is
It
Uses
A
List
Of
Proxy
Servers
To
Surf
The
Web
Anonymously
That's
The
Main
Point
Of
This
What
It
Does
That
What
It
Tries
To
Do
To
Be
Different
Is
It
Has
A
Map
Of
The
World
Come
Up
And
All
These
Proxies
Can
Be
Located
Anywhere
It
Doesn't
Matter
Where
They're
Located
Keep
That
In
Mind
They
Move
A
Lot
They
Can
Be
Changed
The
IP
Address
Could
Change
Any
Number
Of
You
Know
It
Could
Be
Anywhere
In
The
World
I
Could
Be
Hitting
A
Site
In
England
To
Get
To
Site
C
Which
Is
Verizon
Zone
You
Know
Whatever
I'll
Pimp
Your
Site
Verizon
Fears
Dot
Com
There
You
Go
So
It
Doesn't
Matter
Where
These
Proxy
Servers
Are
Located
Well
What
This
Thing
Does
Is
It
Comes
Up
With
A
Map
Of
The
World
And
While
You're
Surfing
You
Can
Have
This
Thing
Running
In
The
Background
Or
On
Another
Screen
And
It
Shows
You
Exactly
Which
Proxy
You're
At
So
It
Shows
You
Bouncing
From
One
Country
To
Another
Ooh
Like
I
Really
Need
To
See
It
To
Know
That
It's
Working
Right
Makes
You
Feel
Like
You're
In
The
Movies
And
Shit
Yeah
And
That's
What
It
Is
And
It's
Just
So
Over
Dramatized
First
Of
Second
Of
All
Is
It's
Misleading
And
It's
Title
You're
Not
Surfing
The
Web
Anonymously
With
This
Thing
Unfortunately
Again
A
Proxy
Server
Filters
Or
Getting
Around
Firewalls
Or
Something
You're
Not
Allowed
To
Go
To
That
Site
And
Use
A
Proxy
Server
It's
Still
Going
To
Pass
Your
IP
Address
Still
Going
To
Pass
Your
User
Agent
It's
Still
Going
To
Pass
That
The
Site
That
You
Want
To
Visit
On
Your
Beh
So
The
Results
Get
Sent
Back
To
Site
B
Which
Then
Ties
It
Back
Into
Your
Requesting
Site
And
Sends
You
Your
Results
But
Site
C
Never
Got
Your
Information
That's
What
A
True
Anonymous
Proxy
Is
Supposed
To
Be
Doing
Well
When
You
Go
To
These
Sites
Multiproxy.org
And
The
Site
You
Mentioned
Earlier
I
Wager
Has
The
Same
Thing
You
Have
To
Be
Careful
They're
Giving
You
A
List
Of
Proxies
But
They're
Not
All
Necessarily
Anonymous
Proxies
That's
Right
And
That
Was
My
Biggest
Beef
With
This
Software
By
Default
First
Of
All
I
Find
It
Kind
Of
I
Don't
Know
That
They're
Maintaining
Their
Own
List
Of
Proxies
Or
Not
But
I
Found
A
Lot
Of
Interweb
Hello
If
You
Go
Out
And
Google
You
Go
To
Some
Of
These
Sites
A
Lot
Of
My
Recognized
Because
I
Visit
Them
I
Use
Them
A
Lot
So
A
They're
Using
Publicly
Known
Lists
Which
I
Think
Is
Not
Cool
You
Know
But
In
A
Way
Would
You
Trust
A
Server
That
They
Main
And
Raintain
And
Run
Either
Anyway
But
Anyway
Yeah
They
I
Recognize
Some
Of
These
Proxies
And
I
Don't
Like
The
Fact
They
Are
Trying
To
Sell
It
This
Thing
Cost
60
Bucks
Oh
My
God
Yeah
It
Would
I
Know
Some
Freeware
Right
Now
That
Probably
Does
A
Lot
Better
Than
That
Software
Absolutely
At
Multiproxy
You
Can
They
Have
A
Plugin
That
You
Can
Use
You
Can
Set
Up
Well
Not
Really
A
Plugin
But
A
Little
Local
Server
You
Know
And
It
Will
Redirect
But
Anyway
That
Another
People
Can
Go
And
Read
About
That
Application
Of
It
The
Other
Thing
That
This
Product
Comes
With
Besides
The
Web
Surfing
The
Anonymous
Supposedly
Anonymous
Surfing
Is
That
Something
Called
Quote
Trace
Destructor
Oh
Trace
Destructor
Great
What
Exactly
Is
The
Trace
Destructor
You
Ask
It
Deletes
Your
Cookie
Files
That
That's
Pretty
Much
It
And
Your
Cached
Directories
Deletes
The
Stuff
Out
Of
Your
Cache
Maybe
Your
History
If
You
Want
It
You
Know
What
There
Are
A
Million
And
Seven
Freeware
Application
Shareware
Open
Source
Things
That
Do
That
It's
The
Dumbest
Most
Common
Thing
And
They
Labeled
It
Trace
Destructor
Dump
Come
On
So
Basically
You're
Just
Paying
To
Look
At
That
Pretty
World
Map
Yeah
And
You
Quite
Frankly
Anyway
They're
Triangulating
Through
Europe
Yeah
And
You know
I do
Want to
Come
Back
We
Just
Touched
On
It
But
I
Want
To
Make
That
Emphasize
The
Point
That
You
Don't
Know
Who's
Running
These
Web
Servers
They
May
Be
Running
It
Do
You
Trust
Them
Are
They
Logging
Everything
Yeah
In
General
Any
Of
You
Don't
Know
Who's
Running
These
Proxies
And
They
Could
Be
Logging
Every
Website
That
You
Go
Through
Anybody
On
Any
Of
These
Lists
You
Don't
Know
Even
Those
The
Publicly
Available
List
You
Don't
Know
That
There's
Been
Rumors
That
The
Government
Is
Operating
Some
Of
Those
And
They're
Watching
And
Tracing
And
Logging
Everything
That
Happens
Do
You
Know
If
That's
True
Or
Not
I
Can't
Confirm
Or
Deny
That
I
Don't
Know
That
Yeah
But
You
Don't
Do
You
Don't
Know
The
Administer
Of
The
Proxy
So
I
Mean
Is
It
Really
Trustworthy
Right
I
Mean
You
Know
The
Easy
Answer
Here
Is
Don't
Do
Anything
Stupid
That
You're
Going
To
Get
In
Trouble
For
Or
Caught
For
Anyway
That's
Not
The
Point
That's
Not
What
You're
Supposed
To
Be
Using
Them
For
Sure
They
Could
Be
But
You
Don't
Want
To
We're
Not
Endorsing
That
I'm
Just
Saying
That
You
Know
Be
Careful
Because
If
You
Think
Because
You
Use
An
Proxy
List
That
You
Got
Somewhere
Or
An
Anonymous
Software
That
You're
Anonymous
Think
Again
Yeah
Think
Again
Never
Don't
Trust
Anyone
D
T
A
Don't
Trust
Anyone
Yeah
If
You
Really
Want
To
Be
Anonymous
So
Much
I
Mean
Come
On
Hop
On
A
Wireless
Network
Spoof
Your
MAC
Address
And
Yeah
That's
Pretty
Much
The
Ultimate
Way
Of
And
That
Is
Still
Not
Truly
Anonymous
Because
You
Still
Have
A
Location
Exactly
A
General
Location
But
You
Know
What
It's
Good
Enough
Now
My
Biggest
Beef
With
This
And
We're
Running
Real
Low
On
Time
I'm
Going
To
Make
This
Quick
My
Biggest
Beef
With
This
Was
The
Fact
That
It
Broke
My
Other
Software
When
I
Installed
This
All
Of
A
Sudden
Smart
FTP
Stopped
Working
I
Could
No
Longer
Connect
To
Sites
Nice
Distributed
.net
Stopped
Working
It
Wouldn't
Upload
Packets
Anymore
These
Things
Don't
Have
Anything
To
Do
With
A
Proxy
Server
Why
Would
Have
A
Proxy
Running
On
That
Port
Come
On
That
That's
Just
Ignorant
And
The
Other
Weird
Thing
Is
Smart
FTP
Wasn't
Working
Which
Is
What
I
Normally
Use
In
My
FTP
Client
Of
Choice
I
Could
Open
Up
Internet
Explorer
And
Use
The
Built
In
FTP
That
Was
In
Explorer
And
It
Works
Fine
Beautiful
Yeah
It's
Bizarre
It
Wasn't
Consistent
Maybe
That
Software
Is
Sending
Back
All
Your
Piece
Of
Crap
That's
My
Review
Of
Steganos
It's
Crap
Avoid
It
Don't
Waste
Your
Money
It's
Not
Even
Worth
Having
A
Free
Copy
If
You
Smell
What
I'm
Cooking
There
It's
Not
Even
Worth
Having
On
Your
Computer
I
Uninstalled
That
Stuff
It
Just
Cost
So
Many
Headaches
It's
Not
Trustworthy
It's
Worthless
There
Are
Better
Alternatives
Out
There
And
They're
Free
And
This
Was
60
Were
Rumors
And
I'm
Sure
They
Still
Are
That
One
Of
The
Major
Proxy
Supposedly
Anonymous
Proxy
Servers
Out
There
Is
Run
By
The
Federal
Government
I
Don't
Know
If
It's
True
I'm
Not
Saying
One
Way
Or
The
Other
One
But
You
Know
What
It
Is
Possible
And
You
Don't
Know
That
So
Don't
Do
Anything
Stupid
That
If
That's
True
You
Could
Be
In
Deep
Trouble
You
Know
Yeah
Definitely
That's
Something
To
Keep
In
Mind
Now
We're
Going
To
Close
Up
Here
Because
Boy
We
Had
A
Full
Show
Today
Lucky
You
Got
Any
Kind
Of
Shouts
You
Want
To
Give
Out
Or
What
My
Shout
Out
Is
Going
To
Go
Out
To
Natus
Today
Natus
Yep
I'll
Second
Natus
And
The
Coder
And
Sergeant
Switch
Hook
Yeah
And
Everyone
The
Whole
Crew
From
The
Mine
Mr.
Pink
And
Yeah
Natus
Just
Updated
Oldschool
Freak
Dot
Com
Go
Check
It
Out
He
Added
A
Couple
Articles
On
There
A
Day
Or
Two
Ago
And
My
Shout
Outs
Go
To
Shada
Who
I
Mispronounced
Last
Week
Shada
Over
At
Persuasion
Dot
Info
And
You
Know
I
Do
It
Once
In
A
While
I
Shout
Out
To
Nick
84
But
You
Know
What
This
Guy
The
Amount
Of
Stuff
That
He
Does
Seriously
Anything
I've
Ever
Thrown
At
Him
Not
Only
Does
He
Do
It
Not
Only
Can
He
Handle
Anything
The
Guy's
Brilliant
He's
Sharp
But
He's
Never
Been
Unable
To
Do
Something
Even
If
It's
Something
He's
Never
Seen
And
Done
And
The
Turnaround
Time
Of
The
Things
That
He
Has
Yeah
I
Mean
Seriously
Amazing
Hey
You
I
Just
Looked
Over
At
My
Clock
And
It
Is
11
So
Reminder
That
Your
2600
Meetings
Are
This
Friday
Coming
Up
This
Friday
So
Go
To
Those
If
You
Do
Or
If
You've
Been
Meaning
To
Go
Check
Them
Out
Of
Course
Email
Us
At
Radio
At
Bin
Rev
Dot
Com
As
You
Heard
We
Get
A
Lot
Of
Email
I
Love
Reading
It
Lots
Of
Good
Top
So
And
If
Sounds
Vaguely
Familiar
They
Actually
Are
The
Same
People
Who
Wrote
The
Toyota
Commercial
Toyota
Had
A
Contest
Or
Something
Where
They
Allowed
People
To
Submit
Entries
Independent
Artists
And
Stuff
And
This
Is
The
People
That
Won
It
So
I
I'm
Not
Going
To
Play
That
Song
Of
Course
But
Another
Song
Of
Their
It's
Actually
A
Pretty
Cool
Song
Alright
So
Lucky
225
Double
Deuce
Thank you
For
Being
On
The
Show
Again
This
Week
Oh
And
As
Always
Great
To
Be
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
How
Great
But
It
Was
Actually
You
Know
What
I
Am
This
Was
A
Fun
Episode
This
Is
The
First
Good
Long
Episode
With
Great
Topics
We've
Done
Because
Vacations
And
Playing
The
Thing
Last
Week
And
It's
Been
A
Rough
Time
This
Is
A
Good
Show
I'm
Happy
With
It
And
Hopefully
We
Can
Do
It
Again
Next
Week
Same
Hack
Time
Same
Hack
Channel
You
Noob
Doug
The
Engineer
Late
Listen
To
You
From
Your
Pedestal
Telling
Us
All
How
Your
World
Was
Fall
Shit
Why
Couldn't
You
Bow
And
Say
Thank
You
All
To
Everyone
Who
Made
You
What
You
Are
It's
In
The
Heart
Crushing
Doll
These
Are
My
Dreams
Yeah
My
Shame
You
Living
My
Life
Can't
You
See
You
Are
Living
Life
Living
My
Life
Only
Dream
Oh
Love
The
Kingdom
You
Own
Does
It
Drag
You
Down
I'll
Gladly
Relieve
You
Of
Your
Big
Shiny
Crown
You
Say
It's
So
Frust
Dray
Now
I
Can't
Believe
You're
Faking
Living
The
Life
ぽ
Says
To
Be
You
I
Living
ひ
Into
You
Everywhere
Whenever I
I
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Say
Share
Silver
Back
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With
advanced
In
You
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Nike
I'll be your nobody, nobody
You're living the life
Don't you see who I'm living the life
You're living the life that I won't say
You're living the life
Please don't tell me my dream is fine
This isn't the way that I
Don't you see who I'm living the life
You're living the life
Fly away, heart
Come on, come on
Come on
You're living the life
You're living the life that I won't say
You're living the life
You're living the life that I won't say
That I won't say
You're living the life that I won't say
Thank you.