This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll school you on burning dreamcast
You need some ISO? Let me do my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RANs, SIFs, SIFs
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack
I'm back
That's right
Stank dog back with you once again on Binary Revolution Radio episode number 85
I am back after a little hiatus
Today is, what is it, March 1st, 2005
And joining me on the show today is Black Ratchet
Hello to you my friend
Hello, hello
And, wow
Boy, it's been a rough couple of weeks for me I have to say
And it's not over yet
But the show must go on
So, we've got a lot of stuff to take care of this week
So let's jump into housekeeping right away
We've got a ton of email that's fallen behind
I forwarded a bunch to Doug
But we've got a bunch more to cover tonight
And I guess let's start with the housekeeping first of all
And thank Doug for taking over the show for the last two weeks
For those of you who
Yay, Doug
Yeah, for those of you who don't listen regularly
I had to take a little time off
And I'm going to talk about that later in the show
And tell some of that stuff
But, basically, I had to take care of some things
So, if you're wondering where the hell I've been
That's what I was doing
Taking care of some real life stuff
But, I needed somebody to take the show over
I don't want to just leave the show
I know a lot of people look forward to it each week
I look forward to it each week, frankly
It's the funny thing is
That I was dying to go out there and download Doug's episode
So I could listen to the show
So, I did not want to miss a couple of weeks of the show
To take care of stuff
So, Doug was gracious enough to take it over
Almost forcibly
I kind of forced him into doing it
But, Doug and Lucky 225
Took over the show episodes 83 and 84
And they did a fantastic job on the show
I listened to both of them
Doug did a great job keeping everything orderly
Going with the same format we go with
Lots of interesting topics
So, definitely thank you to Doug
And, hopefully, maybe we can get Doug to do it again
Or someone else in the future
Maybe rotate things in and out
Because I know I'm an acquired taste
Sometimes people don't want to listen to me every single week
I don't want to listen to myself every week, frankly
So, we might start doing some more things like this in the future
Another thing I wanted to talk about
Is the magazine orders
We are still shipping out magazines
For anybody who has not purchased Binary Revolution magazine
We have the first three issues
Yeah, we do
It's actually at magazine.binrev.com
Yeah, maybe you ought to, you know, actually look up once in a while on the webpage at the top
You know, not the forums
There's a whole lot of other
Oh, gee
Yeah, there's a whole
Looks like I'll have to, like, order those or something
Yeah, there's a whole lot of other stuff that we do
So, yeah, I'm still fulfilling orders
It's still an out-of-my-apartment kind of thing
So, with the other stuff that's going on
It's gotten a little bit slow here
Basically, I'm only able to do this once every week or two
So, I basically save up the orders
Go down there once every week or two to the post office
Mail out a big batch
Take a box down there
Something like that
So, if you're lucky
And you get your order in
Like the Thursday
And I take them on a Friday
Then you won't notice the difference
But, if you're on the other end of the whole cycle
Then it might get to be a couple weeks before I can even get them sent
Or you'll get them
So, keep that in mind, please
That we are not, like, a real business
This is more like a hobby, information, sharing
Whatever you want to call it
Just kind of an out-of-the-basement deal
So, hopefully, you know, at some point in the future
I can offset all this somewhere else
Let somebody else deal with this hassle
But right now, this is the only realistic way to get it done
So, bear with me a little bit
Also, I guess the biggest news this week
As far as we're concerned
Or at least, certainly the most
Let's see, I'll choose my words carefully here
Help me out with this one
The most annoying
No, the most vocal bit of news this week
Has been in the forums
Where
The largest piece of BinRev forum-related news
Yeah, well, you know what
It's just, there's always the drama
But
We have created
An environment with the forums
That I try to make as friendly
And as approachable as possible
To do that
It requires that we have moderators
So, I've named some new moderators lately
And every time this happens
You know, somebody gets bad out of shape
That a post they made gets edited
Or something like that
And they start freaking out about it
Well, first of all
Moderating the forums is not nearly as easy
As some people may think it is
There's a lot of
There's a lot of things to take into consideration
It's not simply
A power thing
Where like
You're going to delete posts from people
You don't like
Or you don't know
Or you don't
Whatever
The whole
The moderators basically have two jobs
Now, they're not
They break down into a lot more detail
But two essential jobs
One
Is to try to keep the place friendly
Approachable
And keep people civil to each other
That's the hardest part of this
Trust me
That is the hardest part of this
And that's why so many other forums
Over the years
Come and go
That's why they all die out
That's why Alt-2600
And all of the news groups
That's why they all died out
Because it's a giant cluster fuck
And everybody's flaming everybody
That's full of elitism
Everybody's putting each other down
And it's just constant negativity
And I try to keep that out of our forums
And that's one of the things
That the moderator's job is to do
Is to try to keep people polite
Civil and sociable
So, to that effect
We have a warning system
To think
To try to control that
The second thing
That the moderators have to do
Is keep the site
And me
From being sued
What that means
Is there are certain things
That A
We will not allow
To be posted in the forums
And B
Frankly, I don't want them
Posted in the forums either
A simple example
Is wares
I do not condone wares
I am not going to allow them
In our forums
If you put up wares
Wares, of course, being
Juarez
Whatever you want to call it
Pirated software
I will not host that
On the site
That is something
That will get me
Shut down in a heartbeat
And we will lose everything
So I will not allow
That in there
If we find it out there
It will be deleted
Some of the other things
That we don't allow
Is in stream porn
Or prawn
As we like to call it
Because we have
Certain people here
That are not
Of legal age
There are younger people here
That do not need
To have that thrown at them
And that could get me
In trouble as well
Posting personal information
Which is the one
That came up this time
Posting personal information
About people
Kind of falls into both things
A
This is not a site
For you to drop docs
On people
Nor is docdroppers.org
But that is a whole other story
If you are posting numbers
About the phone company
Or any company
Really
For the most part
That kind of thing
Can slide
What I don't want
Is posting people's
Personal phone numbers
Whether that be
Personal
Whether that be
People in the forums
Other people
Other members
And stuff like that
Or that be celebrities
I don't want them
In this forum
Now I'm not saying
That there's anything
Wrong with it
I think Paris Hilton
Getting owned
Is freaking hilarious
I think it's fantastic
I think it's hilarious
That it's
And it's also
Triply funny
That it's her
Over and over again
Consistently
It's so funny
But I just can't
For those of you
Who don't know
Sank has a huge
Paris Hilton fetish
I've seen his room
It's scary
Yeah there's
Don't tell them
About binrev.com
Slash Paris
Never mind
I'll edit that out
No but I don't want
To get sued
By these people
And have the site
Shut down
Over something so silly
So the moral
Of the story here
Is if you're going
To put that kind
Of thing in there
Link it to a
Different site
So that their
Responsible for the
Content
If we just link
To it
Then it's a little
Bit easier
A little bit
It's a little bit
Easier for me
To recover from
And defend against
Now
I'll refer you back
To the old
Forgesucks.com
Controversy
And the case
With 2600 and stuff
As far as linking
Goes
That also is
Dangerous
But I'm more
Comfortable with that
And willing to
Fight that
And deal with that
Than I am
Posting the actual
Data in the forum
Posting actual
Information
So to me
It makes common
Sense but I guess
Not to everyone
Else so
We have rules
Up to try to
Control that as
Much as possible
The rules can't
Cover everything
I couldn't
Possibly sit down
And write up a
List of rules
That are going to
Cover every single
Thing that can
And cannot go
Into the forums
Nor do I have
Any intention to
That's ridiculous
To even make
An allegation that
I have to write
Rules against what
You can't do
That's silly
But anyway
What I can do
Is put in a few
More moderators
So that's what
I'm getting at here
I put in a couple
New moderators
We have Strom
Carlson and Doug
Yay
And here's the
Funny thing
Two of the nicest
Guys
That you'll ever
Meet in life
In a matter of
Three days
They went to
The most hated
People on the
Entire site
It seems like
I know that's
Not the case
I'm joking
But these are
Two guys that
I think that
We can trust
I think the
Regular listeners
To the show
And visitors to
The forum
Know that they're
Trustworthy people
I trust them
Enough to protect
Us and the forums
And things like that
And I trust
Their decisions
When they make
A decision
To edit
Something
Or remove
Something
They did it
With the best
Of intentions
And I don't know
How you can get
Upset and fault
Somebody for that
It's always easy
In retrospect
To put it back
If we decide
You know what
Maybe we should
Have left that
Number up
Maybe we should
Have left that
Link up
We can always
Go back
And put it back
It's not that
Big a deal
Don't get
Your panties
All in a twist
People
Seriously
You can untie
The knots
Really
Panties are
Real easy
To untie
Can I get
An amen
On that
Black Ratchet
Yes
Every post
I edit
I make sure
I have a copy
Of what I've
Edited
In case someone
Comes back
And says
You know
You really
Should have
Put that
There
And that's
Me
I do that
Right
Because I
Don't trust
Myself
Yeah and
Sometimes
Sometimes it's
Something that
You want to
Take down
Right away
You're not
Sure about
Well we've
Done something
So what
Happens here
Is then the
Users in the
Forums get
All bent out
Of shape
Thinking that
We're big
Brothering them
And editing
Everything they
Do and yada
Yada
Alright so
I had to
Think about
This I came
Up with a
Compromise
And actually
Droops had
A fantastic
Idea
And that is
To create a
Moderators only
Forum
And that's
What I've
Done
Now we have
A members only
Forum which
Is separate
And irrelevant
For DDP
Members
But we also
Have a
Moderators only
Forum
So all
DDP members
Have access
As well as
All of our
Moderators
Like Droops
Obfuscated
Icon
Strom
Carlson
Doug
Etc
They all
Have access
To this
And basically
What this is
For is to
Talk about
Or debate
Any posts
That are
Questionable
So if
Somebody does
Post a
Number
Instead of
One moderator
Taking it
Upon themselves
To remove
It
Which I
Agree
Could potentially
Be dangerous
I guess
If you don't
Trust your
Moderators
Or somebody
Gets an
Ego
Trip
I don't
Think that's
The case
With us
But to
Avoid that
Potential
And those
Allegations
That people
Have made
We've come up
With a rule
That says
Now that if
Somebody finds
Something that's
Questionable
They are to
Post it
To post it
In the
Moderators
Only forum
Where all
Of the rest
Of us
Can see it
And if
We get
A consensus
Of three
Members
Three moderators
Three DDP
Members
That agree
That it
Needs to
Come down
Then it
Will come
Down
So you
Can't
Whine
And complain
About any
Individual person
Taking down
Your post
Or editing
Your post
It takes
Three people
Now
That's as
Democratic
As I can
Make it
Three of
The moderators
I think
That's
I think
That's a
Fair solution
I think
It's fair
To us
Gives us
Protection in
The forums
And allows
The forums
To keep
Growing
And stuff
Like that
While at
The same
Time
It's fair
For the
Users
Because we
Don't have
Any one
Person
Who is
Above the
Law
For lack
Of a better
Words
Or who can
Go in
There and
Have a
Grudge
Or whatever
Is that
Is there
Any
That sounds
Fair to me
Mm-hmm
Well you know
How to
I mean
Look at
How cool
We are
You know
Nuclear
Weapons
Have a
We have a
Three man
Rule
Yeah we
Have a
Three man
Rule
Three person
Rule
So just
Think it'd be
A whole lot
Easier to
Bring about
Nuclear apocalypse
Than like
You know
Abuse power
On dvp
Forums
Or bin rev
Forums
Excuse me
We're
We're safer
Than nuclear
Power
That should be
Our new
Slogan
That's our
New catchphrase
We're safer
Than nuclear
Power
So I think
That's a great
Solution
I think it's
Fair to everybody
Involved
And I think
It takes away
That accusation
Of so and
So
Has a grudge
Against me
Which we have
Dealt with
In the past
So I wish
Somebody else
Here's the drawback
And this is the
Frustrating part
To me
I wish somebody
Had actually
Offered that
Suggestion
Besides
Droops
You know
Give him credit
That is a good
Idea to put a
Moderators only
Forum
I took it
I took it a
Step further
To start
Making some
Rules
Of three
Votes
You're
Out
That kind
Of stuff
But
I wish
Someone else
On the forums
Would have
Offered this
Suggestion
You know
Why is it
Always crying
About it
And flaming
And saying
You know
F this person
And screw that
Person
And all this
You know what
Why don't you
Contact somebody
Privately
And try to help
Become a part
Of the solution
And not a part
Of the problem
Amen
That's my biggest
Frustration
With people
In general
I have no
Tolerance for
People who are
Trying
Who are not
Trying to help
You're either
Trying to help
Or you're not
Trying to help
And if you're not
Trying to help
Get out of my way
Serious
Well at the same
Point when this
Got brought up
The first thing
I thought
Is geez
Why didn't I
Think of that
Yeah
It was a great
Idea
Hindsight is
20-20
I will give
Everyone that
So big credit
To Droops
That was a great
Idea
And hopefully
That will
Keep things
A little bit
More organized
As far as
Our power
And control
However
I still want
To put out
There
The other job
Of the moderators
Is to make sure
People are friendly
And kind
To each other
I'm not going
To tolerate elitism
I've said it
From the beginning
And if you want
To say
I'm abusing power
By making such a rule
Well then maybe
You need to go
To another forum
Or go to another site
Hang out
But if you post
Comments out there
That are rude
That are unnecessary
That are unhelpful
Or whatever
Jokes I'm okay
I'm very lenient
I'll take jokes
Not a problem
And if it's
Misinterpreted from a joke
You have this
Three moderator rule
Now that will save you
But I'm not
Going to be tolerant
Of people who are
Just coming into the forums
To be assholes
Got no time for you
So
Wow
Didn't want to spend
That much time on that
But hey
It happens
And that's
Welcome to
BinRev Radio
Yeah that's the tip
Of the iceberg
Of the drama
For this episode
I believe
Actually
I'm still
I'm not even out
Of the housekeeping
Yet for crying out loud
The other thing is
I wanted to let
Everybody know
For those of you
Who didn't already see
That I've installed
A new gallery
And we're in early testing
This is a very low
Priority to me
I have to say
I mean I hate to say
That but it's true
Basically when we
Switched servers
I had to move
I moved
I have
I have a backup
Of all the old data
And when I moved
All the old data
Over from that server
To this one
The short version
Is that
The settings
Were really
Really screwed up
And I was not able
To easily recover
The gallery
As is
In the proper format
With everything
In place
I was able
To do that
With all of the
Other sites
And all of the
Other software
Just about
Except for
The gallery
So
I do have
The pictures
I do have
The data
But
To reinstall
Gallery
Is going to
Take some time
And more importantly
To reorganize it
Unfortunately
The people
That made the
Galleries
And created
Their own
Galleries
And uploaded
Files the last
Time
Created everything
With under default
Names
So all the
Categories
And topics
All the
Folder names
Say album
One
Album
Two
Album
Three
Very few
People
Went that
Extra step
To make it
Organized
To say
You know
Web hacking
Album
Or
Wallpaper
Screenshots
Album
You know
Something like
That
So all I've
Got is
Album
One
Album
Two
Which means
I have to
Go through
Them
Picture
By
Picture
One
By
One
To figure
Out
What the
Topic
Is
What the
Theme
Is
Put them
Together
Upload
Them to
A new
Gallery
And it's
Just a
Huge
Hugely
Time
Consuming
Process
So
Bear with
Me about
That
I'm doing
It the
Best I
Can
But frankly
It is
A low
Priority
I'm also
Because I
Was going to
Have to go
Through such
This
Such a
Hassle
To reinstall
The gallery
I went
Ahead and
Tried this
New
Gallery
Copper
Mine I
Think it's
Called
Does it
Sound right
Something like
That
Yeah
Something like
That
So
At some
Point
We'll skin
That to
Match the
Rest of
The site
Yada
I haven't
Tweaked any
The settings
All the
The file size
Somebody's been
Telling me
That you
Can't upload
More than
A meg
I'll look
Into that
I don't
Know how
The settings
Are yet
So
I'll see
How that
Works
And give
Me a
Little
Time
I'm lucky
That I've
Already
Got it
Installed
You know
So
That's
All that
I have
For that
So
That being
Said
So if
You like
I can
Upload
Lots of
Photos
So if
Anybody
Wants to
Send me
Their
Porn
Collections
That'd be
Blackratchet
Dot org
And I
Gladly put
It up
On the
Gallery
For you
Yeah
Our
Personal
We'll
Make a
Separate
Prawn
Gallery
I will
Personally
See
That
Pictures
You know
Actually we
Probably could
Joking
I know
You're joking
We could
Probably
I think
There's an
Age
Check
In here
Make them
Click through
An age
You're above
18
To come
In
But we're
Not a
Prawn
Site
So we
Won't
Do that
Although
There's a
Little bit
Of
Phone
Prawn
In there
I think
I can
Let that
Slide a
Little
Bit
As long
As
Probably
Oh
Yeah
The
Oh
Yeah
I got
To
Upload
That
Too
Okay
Let's
See
Here
I guess
Unless you
Have any
More housekeeping
Stuff
No I do
Not
Okay
Then let's
Go into
Some
Email
Here
So
Email
Music
All right
And
I guess
Let's go
Ahead
And do
This
Email
To
Start
The
Show
Off
With
Let's
Start
Off
And
Then
We
Can
Move
Upwards
From
Move
Up
And
On
From
Here
First
Email
This
Week
Comes
From
UT
Crazy
UT
Crazy
Says
Hello
Stank
You
Do
Not
Seem
To
Get
Much
Hate
Mail
Let
Me
Be
One
Of
Those
Few
Emails
While
I
Have
Enjoyed
Your
Show
For
The
Past
Few
Years
What
Happened
Last
Week
Made
Me
Lose
Any
Respect
For
You
That
I
Once
Had
When
You
Removed
My
Show
From
The
DDP
Hack
Radio
Stream
It
Really
Pissed
Me
Off
I
Can
Understand
If
You
Did
It
Because
I
Was
An
Ass
But
I
Wasn't
I
Tried
To
Email
You
As
Nicely
As
Possible
I
Said
I
Realized
It's
Hard
To
Run
A
Station
Like
That
But
Oh
No
You
Had
To
Take
My
Stream
Off
The
Air
I
Realized
That
You
Probably
Do
Not
Care
What
I
Think
You
Didn't
Even
Care
When
Somebody
Got
Fired
Because
Of
You
I
Realized
You
Don't
Even
Care
I
Also
Realized
That
You
Don't
Even
Care
What
I
Think
But
I
Thought
I
Would
Make
It
Clear
How
I
Think
Clearly
I
Don't
Want
You
To
Add
Us
Back
On
The
Stream
That
Is
Not
Why
I
Emailing
You
That
Was
Your
Decision
And
I
Respect
It's
Just
Not
The
Same
What
Also
Makes
Me
Mad
Is
How
You
Made
Fun
Of
The
Guy
Who
Said
Plan
Pilot
Instead
Of
Palm
In
An
Email
I
Personally
Know
How
It
Feels
To
Have
Someone
Read
Your
Email
And
It
Makes
You
Feel
Good
But
Then
They
Start
Poking
Fun
At
You
It
Really
Hurts
To
Hear
This
Person
That
You
Respect
Say
Such
Things
Well
That's
One
Person's
Opinion
Thanks
But
No
Thanks
Okay
UT
Crazy
First
Of
All
I
Do
Get
Hate
Mail
Quite
A
Bit
Of
It
Actually
And
I
Even
Make
Light
Of
It
You
Know
On
The
Show
Several
Times
Which
I
Thought
You
Were
Loved
By
All
You
Know
Funny
Oddly
Enough
I'm
Not
You'd
Think
So
You
Know
But
Just
No
Not
Everybody
Gets
Me
Not
Everybody
Gets
So
I
You
I
Get
I
Do
Get
A
Lot
Of
Hate
Mail
Or
People
Who
Don't
Like
Me
Or
Whatever
And
I
Do
I
Read
Most
Of
It
On
The
Air
So
I
Don't
Know
How
You
Might
Have
Missed
Some
Of
It
But
And
This
One's
No
Different
I
Read
This
On
The
Air
As
Well
A lot
Of
What
Does
Bother
Me
Is
For
Someone
To
Say
How
Much
They
Hate
Me
When
I
Done
Nothing
Except
Gone
Out
Of
My
Way
To
Help
Somebody
That's
What
Bothers
Me
A
Little
Bit
I'm
Offended
That
For
Me
To
Do
Everything
I
Can
Do
To
Try
To
Help
Somebody
And
Then
Get
An
Email
Like
This
That
Bothers
Me
So
If
You
Disagree
With
Me
And
You
Hate
Me
Because
You
Disagree
Or
You
Don't
Think
I'm
Smart
Or
I'm
Not
Saying
What
You
Want
To
Hear
Me
Say
Or
Whatever
That's
Fine
Because
That's
A
Difference
Of
Opinion
And
I
Can
Live
With
That
I
Can
Say
Okay
Well
Sorry
You
Disagree
With
Me
But
That's
You
And
I'm
Me
And
I
Guess
That's
All
There
Is
To
Say
About
That
But
When
I'm
Trying
My
Best
To
Help
Somebody
And
I
Get
An
Email
Like
This
That
Bothers
Me
Let's
Back
Up
Here
And
Talk
About
This
First
Of
All
And
Let's
Talk
About
The
Technical
Aspect
Of
DDP
Hack
Radio
First
Of
All
Nick
84
Especially
And
Myself
But
Nick
84
Especially
Has
Put
In
A
Lot
Of
Time
Worked
Very
Hard
Putting
Together
DDP
Hack
Radio
I
Mean
A
Lot
It
Was
Not
Easy
By
Any
Stretch
Of
The
Imagination
It's
Something
That's
Never
Been
Done
Before
In
The
Open
Source
Community
Absolutely
Hasn't
Happened
Normally
What
We're
Putting
Together
Here
Is
Something
That
Cost
A
Lot
Of
Money
You
Can
Check
With
Rant
Radio
For
Example
They'll
Back
Us
Up
On
This
Rant
Radio
I've
Spoken
With
Them
They've
Given
Me
Ideas
And
Pointed
Me
In
The
Of
Software
Pay
Software
Out
There
That
You
Can
Get
That
Does
A
Lot
Of
This
It's
Very
Expensive
So
It
Is
A
Lot
Of
Time
Cost
Of
Software
Hardware
And
Debugging
And
Stuff
To
Maintain
A
Server
And
To
Run
A
Station
It
Really
Is
I
Don't
Expect
Everybody
To
Really
Understand
That
Without
Having
Your
Hands
In
It
And
Seeing
How
Difficult
It
Is
You
Can
Just
I
Guess
You
What
We
Did
Is
Because
We
Couldn't
Afford
The
Software
We
Got
Open
Source
Applications
Combined
Several
Open
Source
Applications
Along
With
Some
Custom
Code
That
We
Developed
In
House
Which
Will
Also
Be
Chewing
Gum
And
Buff
Tape
On
It
Exactly
And
Right
Now
It
Is
Kind
Of
Like
That
But
We
Are
Definitely
Cleaning
It
Up
As
We
Test
Along
And
Our
Portion
Of
This
Will
Also
Be
Released
Into
The
Open
Source
Community
Once
It
Stable
And
Working
Again
But
By
Combining
What's
Out
There
And
Developing
Stuff
On
Our
Own
We've
Created
Not
Only
A
Server
I
Mean
There's
Icecast
Out
There
Are
Ices
To
Feed
It
There
Are
Tons
Of
Ways
To
Feed
The
MP3
To
It
All
That
Stuff
Exists
But
There's
Not
A
Total
Programming
Solution
And
That's
What
We've
Put
Together
Combined
All
These
Things
With
In
House
Stuff
And
Made
A
Total
Programming
Solution
That
Allows
People
To
Set
Up
Their
Own
Stations
With
Their
Own
Content
Anywhere
All
For
Free
All
Open
Source
Stuff
And
Like
I
Said
We'll
Release
It
When
The
Time
Comes
That
We
Feel
Confident
That
It's
Stable
Enough
To
Use
And
This
Is
Going
To
Be
A
Huge
Thing
Because
It's
Porn
Radio
Station
Somebody
Wants
To
Start
Another
Tech
Radio
Station
Somebody
Wants
To
Start
An
All
Music
They
Will
Have
This
Because
We've
Developed
Such
A
Thing
Now
The
Problem
Here
Is
That
Somebody
Has
To
Test
It
Just
Like
Every
Other
Software
In
The
World
Somebody
Has
To
Test
It
We've
Been
Testing
It
For
Quite
Some
Time
And
It
Works
It
Works
Most
Of
The
Time
So
We
Are
Until
We
Moved
Hosts
When
We
Moved
To
A
New
Hosting
Company
We
Moved
To
A
New
Physical
Server
We
Started
Getting
A
Few
Reports
Well
From
UT
Crazy
That
His
Show
Was
Getting
Kicked
Off
The
Air
So
The
First
Time
It
Was
Not
Up
And
Running
Yet
We
Had
Just
Moved
Like
On
A
Sunday
Or
Monday
And
Something
Like
That
And
We
Just
Didn't
Have
It
Up
And
Running
Yet
So
That
Understandable
That
Fine
The
Second
Time
It
Happened
Apparently
Was
Because
Of
Mistakes
On
Their
End
Where
They
Didn't
Upload
The
Show
Properly
And
Didn't
Follow
The
Directions
That
We
Had
So
Fine
A
Couple
Little
Things
Happened
But
We
Moved
On
After
That
Reported
To
They
Reported
To
Us
That
The
Show
Didn't
Air
A
Few
More
Times
At
The
Same
Time
That
I
Was
Getting
Those
Messages
From
You
Binary
Revolution
Radio
Also
Did
Not
Air
I
Uploaded
It
Everything
Seemed
Fine
I
Was
Equally
Affected
By
This
Binary
Revolution
Radio
Did
Not
Air
At
Least
One
I
Think
Two
Weeks
Though
And
Everything
Looked
Fine
To
Me
As
Well
So
Point
Being
I'm
Not
Happy
About
It
Either
Believe
Me
I
Don't
Want
My
Show
Skipped
Any
More
Than
I
Want
Intermittent
Problem
It
An
Intermittent
Mistake
Or
Whatever
You
Want
To
Call
It
Everybody
Else
Seemed
Fine
And
We
Looked
Through
The
Logs
We
Tried
To
Find
Out
What
Was
Going
On
We
Looked
Into
It
Right
Away
Of
Course
And
We
Couldn't
See
Anything
That
Was
Causing
This
So
All
We
Could
Do
Is
Keep
Monitoring
It
The
Best
We
Could
With
This
Open
Source
Software
That
We
Having
To
Deal
With
There
Is
No
Error
Logging
Or
Almost
No
Error
Logging
That
Is
Generated
And
Any
Programmer
Out
There
Listening
And
Black
Ratchet
Maybe
You
Can
Back
Me
Up
On
This
If
There
Is
No
Logging
And
No
Information
Being
Generated
And
You
Have
An
Intermittent
Problem
It
Is
Very
Difficult
To
Find
Out
What
Is
Causing
It
Logging
Is
For
Whimps
Yeah
Right
Beta
Is
A
State
Of
Mind
If
Something
Just
Crashes
And
Doesn't
Give
You
An
Error
Of
Why
It
Crashed
And
You
Can't
See
Any
Regular
Pattern
Or
Something
Else
Running
Or
Something
Else
That
Caused
It
It's
Really
Hard
To
Figure
Out
What
Caused
It
Seriously
Or
You're
Just
Running
Windows
Yeah
And
We're
Not
Luckily
So
I
Thought
The
In
Red
Was
Windows
2000
And
I
Yeah
You
Keep
Believing
That
All
Hail
Microsoft
All
Hail
Microsoft
I
Think
Somebody's
Been
Brainwashed
But
No
It's
Really
It's
Kind of
Like
Taking
Your
Car
To
A
Mechanic
And
Like
Handing
Them
The
Keys
And
Go
Yeah
It's
Broke
There's
Something
Wrong
And
Then
You
Just
Walk
Away
You
Don't
Give
Them
Any
Explanation
There's
No
Diagnostics
Tools
Available
To
Check
Your
Car
You
Just
Like
Yeah
It
Screws
Up
Sometimes
And
You
Just
Walk
Off
Now
How
In
The
World
Is
Somebody
Going
To
Figure
Out
The
Problem
That
Way
You
It
Should
Be
That
Good
Oh
Yeah
Gosh
I
Keep
Forgetting
That
I
Guess
It
Is
Yeah
It
Is
Probably
My
Fault
Damn
Yeah
Anyway
It's
Always
Your
I
Know
I'll
Take
It
It's
My
Fault
Fine
I'm
An
Ass
Whatever
Any
Of
The
Intermittent
Problem
Anyway
Especially
When
You
Don't
Have
Logs
Or
Information
Alright
So
Fine
And
Dandy
There's
The
Technical
Situation
That's
What's
Going
On
An
Intermittent
Problem
Very
Hard
To
Decode
Whatever
That's
Honky
Dory
Great
Let's
Turn
This
Into
A
Positive
Light
Here
What
Did
We
Do
Or
What
Can
We
Do
To
Try
To
Solve
The
Problem
What
Can
We
Do
To
Fix
It
Well
Shut
Down
Bin
Rev
Radio
Yeah
Darn it
Yes
That's
The
Solution
That's
The
Solution
Apparently
Some
People
Would
Want
Actually
But
You
Won't
Get
Any
More
Complaints
Now
Will
You
That
Is
True
I
Mean
I
Just
Think
You're
Looking
At
A
I've
Had
My
Finger
On
The
Turn
Off
The
Forums
Button
A
Couple
Times
Too
When
I
Talk
Myself
Back
Down
No
Because
Then
I
Think
Is
That
The
Part
Where
We're
Supposed
To
Laugh
Oh
No
We
See
Here's
The
That's
What
They
Want
Me
To
Do
We
Can't
We
Can't
Joke
About
That
Because
He
Mentioned
In
His
Email
That
Somebody
Got
Fired
For
Watching
Hack
TV
And
That's
My
Fault
So
We
Can't
Really
I
Guess
We
Probably
Shouldn't
Joke
About
That
We're
Not
All
To
Joke
On
The
Your
Monitor
Is
Visible
To
The
Outside
Of
The
Hall
That
That's
The
Question
Exactly
Everybody
Knows
That
Your
Back
Of
Your
Monitor
Should
Be
Facing
Toward
Everybody
Else
So
They
Can't
See
What
You're
Doing
And
If
You
How
Do
You
Expect
To
Serve
Porn
At
Work
And
That's
Why
You
Also
Have
To
Get
To
Get
A
Privacy
Guard
If
You
Can't
Turn
Your
Computer
Around
You
Got To
Get
That
Privacy
Screen
To
Put
Over
It
So
That
You
Have
To
Be
Looking
Directly
On
To
It
To
See
What's
On
The
Screen
And
Also
You
Got
To
Program
Yourself
A
Little
Macro
For
A
Hotkey
Hit
That
F1
Boss
Key
When
Somebody
Walks
In
Or
Something
Not
F1
Seriously
There's
No such
Thing
As
Up
But
If
You
Hit
Alt
B
You
Brought
Up
A
Screenshot
Of
A
DOS
Prop
It
Was
The
Coolest
Thing
Ever
I
Don't
Think
Anybody
Understood
Any
Bit
Of
That
Because
You
Started
Breaking
Up
Horribly
Gotta
Be
Some
Voip
Going
On
There
Some
Voip
Tasty
Voip
Goodness
So
This
Call
Brought
To
You
By
New
Phone
Yeah
There
You
Go
That's
A
Little
Bit
Better
But
You
Were
Saying
About
The
Hot
Boss
Key
That
Would
Bring
Up
A
DOS
Prompt
So
That
If
A
Boss
Walked
By
Which
Is
What
The
Name
Is
For
That
All
Of
A
Sudden
The
Boss
Key
Or
A
Spreadsheet
Would
Come
Up
To
Make
It
Look
Like
You
Were
Working
So
Really
Quickly
All
You
Do
Is
Hit
The
Button
Now
All I
got
You
Wait
A
Minute
Did
I
What
Dying
Okay
Virtual
Dying
Anyway
So
Again
Back
To
The
Positive
We
Got
You
Know
What
Are
We
Going
To
Do
About
This
With
Fixing
The
Server
Such
As
It
Is
Well
First
Of
All
Like
I said
There's
Not
A lot
Of
Error
Checking
And
Stuff
Like
That
And
Debugging
So
Nick
84
Has
Been
Adding
Tons
Of
It
More
And
More
Each
Day
To
Try
To
Figure
Out
If
We
Can
Generate
An
Error
To
See
Exactly
What
Causing
It
Or
Where
In
The
Process
This
Is
Dying
Because
Everything
Everywhere
We've
Looked
It
Looks
Like
It
Should
Be
Working
We've
Put
Some
Delays
In
There
Maybe
It's
Trying
To
Reconnect
Too
Fast
Maybe
It's
Not
I
Don't
Know
What
It
Could
Be
But
I
Know
We
Just
Lost
Black
Ratchet
So
I
Going
To
Hang
Up
On
Him
And
Hopefully
He'll
Call
Back
And
Another
Thing
That
We've
Done
Is
Added
In
A
Feature
Or
A
Logging
Thing
That
If
A
Show
Drops
That
We'll
See
Something
In
The
Logs
That
Tell
Us
Exactly
Why
We'll
See
A
Date
We'll
See
A
Time
Et
Cetera
Et
Cetera
So
We
Know
Exactly
Why
Or
Hopefully
We'll
Know
Exactly
Why
It
This
Call
Brought
To
You
By
New
Phone
You
Can't
Say
That
Enough
Right
I'm
Not
Actually
No
I
Can't
Blame
New
Phone
For
This
One
This
Is
Buggy
System
Drivers
For
Asterisk
I'm
Calling
You
Off
My
VoIP
Line
And
Because
My
Phones
Are
So
Horribly
Unsupported
I
Actually
Just
Received
A
Phone
Call
And
Because
I
Had
It
On
Do
Not
Disturb
Apparently
When
It
Hangs
Really
Need
To
Fix
Yeah
That
Makes
Perfect
Logical
Sense
It's
A
Very
Buggy
Driver
And
Certain
People
And
I
Are
Trying
To
Fix
It
But
Slowly
And
Steadily
Alright
Well
I
Was
Just
Continuing
On
And
Letting
Everybody
Know
That
Some
Of
The
Solutions
We
Were
Trying
To
Take
On
This
Server
Problem
With
The
Radio
Server
Is
That
First
Of
All
We
Adding
More
Logging
And
Error
Generation
And
Things
Like
That
Another
Thing
We
Did
That
Was
Prompted
From
This
Is
That
We
Contacted
All
The
Other
Shows
Well
Not
All
The
Other
Shows
But
The
Other
Shows
Out
There
That
I
Hadn't
Heard
From
In
A
While
And
Said
Hey
Are
You
Having
Any
Problem
Have
You
Had
Any
Shows
Missed
And
Make
Sure
Maybe
Someone
Else
Is
Having
This
Problem
So
We
Continue
To
Work
On
The
Server
If
Anybody
Else
Does
Have
Problems
Contact
Us
Right
Away
It
Works
99.9
Percent
Of
The
Time
It
Really
Does
It
It's
Very
Unfortunate
That
It
Just
Happened
To
Two
Of
Us
And
One
Of
Us
I
Guess
Wasn't
Patient
And
Understanding
Enough
To
Work
Through
It
So
And
Who
Was
That
Well
I
Think
That's
Pretty
Painfully
Clear
So
I'm
Sorry
That
It
Came
To
That
UT
Crazy
But
You
Know
What
Good
Luck
You
Go
Your
Way
And
I'm
Sorry
That
We
Weren't
Able
To
Make
DDP
Hack
Radio
Work
For
You
Now
Let's
Move
On
To
Some
Good
Hold
On
Since
We're
On
The
Subject
Let
Me
Get
On
My
Soap
Box
And
I'd
Just
Like
To
Say
To
You
Stank
You
Are
Quite
Frankly
You
Do
A shitload
Of
Stuff
For
The
Community
I
Swore
There
Oh
Well
You
Do
A lot
Of
Stuff
For
The
Community
And
A lot
Of
People
Like
You
Know
Complain
About
Oh
You
Know
The
Stuff
Stinks
It's
Like
You
Know
It's
Not
Working
Properly
You
Know
The
Gallery
Is
Up
To
Spec
I
Mean
How
Much
Do
You
Get
Paid
For
Doing
This
I
Get
Like
Oh
About
75
Grand
A
Year
Plus
In
Can
You
Hire
An
Assistant
Yeah
Exactly
I
Can
Be
Your
Boston
Correspondent
Alright
There
You
Go
Yeah
And
You
Know
I
Am
Willing
I
Mean
There's
Certain
Times
Like
You
Know
During
The
Server
Move
For
Those
You
Paying
Attention
To
On
Yet
Another
Payphone
List
There
Was
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
That
Was
Broken
When
We
Tried
To
Move
To
The
New
Server
Oh
My
And
You
Know
We
Been
Banging
Our
Heads
Against
This
And
I
Mean
You
Know
Technically
I
Could
Be
Really
You
Know
Pissy
Against
Stank
About
Oh
You
Know
This
Doesn't
Work
This
Doesn't
Work
This
Doesn't
Work
But
At
The
Same
Time
You
Know
I'm
Getting
This
For
Free
I'm
Getting
A
Very
Fast
Server
And
Very
You
Dedicated
Very
Fast
Fight
Very
You
Okay
Stop
Blowing
Smoke
On
My
Ass
The
Thing
Is
I
You
Know
You're
Helping
Out
A
Lot
Too
You're
Helping
Out
With
Projects
All
Of
DDP
That's
Why
We're
Hosting
All
The
Sites
And
That's
Why
People
Who
Are
Productive
And
Giving
Back
To
The
Community
That
Have
Always
Been
Positive
Attitude
And
Helpful
You
Know
I
Host
A
Lot
Of
Other
Sites
Besides
Just
The
DDP
Sites
And
I
Don't
Know
How
Many
People
Know
That
And
I'm
Not
Going
To
List
Any
Because
I'm
Not
Sure
Who
Wants
People
To
Know
What's
Hosted
Here
So
But
It's
Not
Me
That's
Doing
I
Yeah
I
Try
To
Do
As
Much
As
I
Can
Real
Life
Allowing
But
There's
A lot
Of
Other
People
Putting
In
Time
To
Frankly
If
Oh
Yeah
Please
I'm
Not
I'm
Not
Trying to
Disrespect
Any
Of
The
Other
People
That
You
Know
Give
Back
To
The
Community
Please
Don't
Give
Me
That
But
You
Get
A lot
Of
Crap
Flung
At
You
I
Don't
Think
That's
A word
But
Anyway
Whatever
I
Do
And
You
Know
What
I
Have
I
Have
A
Thick
Skin
I
Can
Take
Most
Of
It
And
Honestly
This
One
This
Incident
I
Would
Have
Probably
Just
Brushed
It
Off
It
Wasn't
Such
A
Big
Deal
If
It
Was
Just
Me
But
I'll
Be
Damned
If
I'm
Going
To
Sit
There
And
Allow
Somebody
To
Attack
A
Creation
That
Nick
84
Has
Put
So
Much
Time
Into
And
Got
Working
So
Freaking
Good
I'm
Not
Going
To
I
Am
Not
Going
To
Let
You
Disrespect
My
Friends
Like
Me
It's
Just
A
Principles
Thing
It's
Just
Something
I
Stand
Up
For
No
Matter
Who
It
Is
But
Anyway
Let's
Move
On
To
Some
Other
Emails
Some
Normal
Emails
And
Boy
I
Think
This
Might
Be
Another
One
Of
Those
All
Email
Shows
Because
We've
Still
Got
A
Lot
To
Go
And
We're
Already
Way
Into
The
Show
So
I'm
Gonna
Wow
Let's
Speed
Up
On
Some
Of
These
I
Further
Proof
On
Why
You
Shouldn't
Take
Two
Weeks
Off
Yeah
Exactly
If I
Don't
Get
To
Them
All
Today
We'll
Carry
Them
Over
To
The
Next
Show
Okay
Our
Second
Email
This
Week
Comes
From
10
Base
2
Stank
Dog
I've
Been
A
Hacker
For
The
Past
20
Years
Non
Active
For
The
Past
10
Years
Oh
That's
Sad
I
Recently
Listened
To
Your
Internet
Radio
Presentation
At
Hoped
And
It
Invigorated
Me
To
Get
Back
Into
The
Fold
Thank
You
For
The
Inspiration
I've
Also
Registered
On
Bin
Rev
At
10
Base
2
Old
School
Oh
Well
Let
Just
Give
Credit
Where
Credit
Stu
Here
I
You
Said
You
Listen
To
Your
Internet
Radio
Presentation
Technically
That's
That
Was
Slip
Mode's
Internet
Radio
Presentation
I
Just
Had
A
Little
Bit
Part
At
The
End
There
Talking
About
Specifically
Binary
Revolution
Radio
So
I
Only
Had
5
Or
10
Minutes
Dual
Parallel
Had
5
Or
10
Minutes
Talk
About
RFA
But
That
Was
Slip
Mode's
Presentation
So
First
Of
All
Let's
Just
Give
Credit
However
I
Appreciate
The
Comment
And
Thank
You
For
Joining
The
For
Again
Drama
Comes
Up
Every
Once
In
A
While
My
Attitude
Is
You
Address
It
And
You
Move
Past
It
I
Just
Moved
Past
One
A
Couple
Seconds
Ago
And
It's
Over
As
Far
As
I'm
Concerned
So
Come
To
The
Forums
When
You
See
The
Drama
Just
Try
To
Ignore
It
It'll
Go
Away
And
You'll
Find
A lot
Of
Interesting
Stuff
A lot
Of
Smart
People
There
And
Hopefully
You'll
Enjoy
It
I
Know
It's
Been
Very
Helpful
To
Me
I
Find
A lot
Of
Good
Information
I
Enjoy
It
Sometimes
More
Than
Others
So
Hopefully
You'll
Enjoy
It
And
As
Far
As
Presenting
Since
You
Gave
Me
An
Opening
I'll
Pimp
My
Speech
And
I'm
Going
To
Be
Giving
I'm
Giving
A
Presentation
At
Interzone
4
Coming
Up
In
Atlanta
Next
Let's
See
Next
Week
No
Two
Week
And
A
Something
Like
That
Tuesday
To
Tuesday
The
Weekend
Of
March
11th
Week
And
A
Half
Two
Week
Whatever
So
If
Anybody
Wants
To
Um
Should
I
I guess
I've
Already
Announced
It
It's
On
Disposable
Email
Vulnerabilities
So
I
Won't
Go into
Too
Much
More
Detail
About
That
But
It's
Pretty
Much
Self
Explanatory
The
Innate
Problems
With
Disposable
Email
Sites
Disposable
Email
Accounts
The
Just
Built
In
Problems
With
Them
And
Our
Solution
For
Yet
Another
Project
That
We
Put
Together
And
We
Will
Announce
That
At
Interzone
4
So
It
Will
Be
Officially
Announced
There
So
I
Don't
Want
To
Give
Too
Much
Away
Now
So
If
Anybody
Can
Make
It
Come
On
By
To
Come
On
Over
To
Atlanta
Interzone
4
March
11th
Through
The
13th
Okay
Our
Next
Email
From
Dev
Monkey
Who
Was
Nice
Enough
Take
Notes
To
This
People
Who
Was
Nice
Enough
To
Give
Me
A
Pronunciation
Of
The
Name
To
Make
Sure
I
Didn't
Screw
It
Up
Dev
Monkey
Yeah
See
That's
What I
Need
I'm
A little
Slow
Hey
Doug
Slash
Stankdog
Yeah
I need it
Keep a
Database
Hey
Doug
Stankdog
Of
Course
He
Didn't
Know
Who
Was
Going
To
Be
Hosting
Because
We
Been
Jumping
Around
A lot
My name
Is
Dev
Monkey
And
I've
Been
Listening
To
Bin
Rev
Radio
Since
Episode
40
And
It's
Quite
A
While
I
Just
Want
To
Say
Good
Job
With
The
Show
And
Keep
Up
The
Good
Work
Oh
Actually
You'll
Remember
This
Because
I
Think
You
And
I
Talked
About
This
Several
Times
He
Says
About
The
Hard
Drive
Freezing
You
Mentioned
Earlier
It's
Pretty
Much
A
Myth
Ha
I
Told
You
Sometimes
Is
Probably
Due
To
A
Basic
Principle
Of
Chemistry
As
Objects
Heat
Up
They
Expand
And
As
They
Cool
Down
They
Shrink
If
Your
Hard
Drive
Dies
But
Is
Adjacent
To
A
CD
DVD
Burner
Or
Another
Hard
Drive
The
Heat
From
These
Drives
Could
Be
Enough
To
Increase
The
Size
Of
The
Platters
Just
Enough
For
The
Read
Heads
To
Be
Misaligned
The
Freezing
Serves
Only
To
Bring
The
Entire
Drive
Back
To
A
Cool
Equal
Temperature
So
That
The
Drives
Heads
And
Platters
Are
All
Properly
Aligned
Since
Hard
Drives
Are
Designed
To
Operate
In
Specific
Temperature
Ranges
Anyway
Thanks
For
Reading
This
If
You
Read
This
On
The
Air
And
I
Would
Like
To
Give
A
Shout
I
Would
Be
Glad
To
Pass
On
Some
Shout
Out
To
Pound
AVS
Chat
That
That's
Obviously
An
IRC
Channel
There
AVS
CHAT
And
The
Flap
So
Shouts
To
Them
I'll
Pass
That
On
T
E
H
To
Me
I
Would
Almost
Lobby
To
Make
T
E
H
A
Word
Because
That's
The
One
I
Misspell
More
Than
Anything
When
You're
Typing
Fast
I
Just
Have
It
On
Autocorrect
I
Don't
Think
I
Type
It
Correct
Anymore
Yeah
Exactly
And
That
Makes
It
Worse
I
Run
Horribly
It's
Like
When
I
Was
A
Little
Kid
When
I
Was
Like
I
Don't
Know
Third
Or
Fourth
Or
Fifth
Grade
I
Was
In
Spelling
Bees
Now
Oh
Good
Grief
I
Couldn't
Spell
Four
Letter
Words
Properly
Certain
Ones
But
You
Know
I
Have
Been
Elitized
I
Guess
So
Ha
See
I
Always
Said
That
This
Is
A
Myth
As
Any
Kind
Of
Viable
Data
Recovery
In
A
Rare
Case
It
Might
Work
I
Have
A
Problem
With
This
Okay
Go
A
It
Pretty
Much
A
Myth
The
Reason
It
Does
Work
Wait
A
Minute
Wait
Excuse
Me
What
The
Reason
It
Does
Work
Sometimes
Keep
Reading
They
Work
Sometimes
Okay
So
Then
It's
Not
A
Myth
Now
Is
It
It's
Not
A
Regular
Viable
Data
Recovery
Method
Did
I
Ever
Say
It
Was
A
Regular
Or
Whatever
You
Just
Said
Some
People
Think
That
And
We're
Trying
To
Squash
It
We're
Trying
To
Put
A
Solution
To
This
And
Put
It
To
Bed
Dude
I
Sacrifice
Small
Animals
If
Forensic
Analysis
Where
They
Go
In
And
Start
Picking
Apart
Every
Little
Tiny
Bit
In
Magnetic
Positive
And
Negative
To
Try
To
Reconstruct
Data
Is
Insanely
Valuable
Some
More
Than
Others
I
Was
Going
To
Say
My
Prong
Collection
Is
Priceless
You
Know
And
I
Got
To
Do
Whatever
I
Have
To
Do
To
Try
To
Recover
It
So
I
I'm
Sure
The
Listeners
Can
Feel
Me
On
I'm
Saying
That
It's
Just
It's
Such
A
Rare
Occurrence
That
It
Happens
That
A
It
Possibly
Could
Be
Chalked
Up
To
Coincidence
However
I
Think
What
He
Said
Is
Right
That
It's
Causing
Expanding
And
Contracting
It's
Contracting
Of
The
Machinery
Inside
For
Lack
Of
A
Better
Word
And
That
It
Will
Occasionally
One
In
A
Thousand
Times
Work
That's
My
Ballpark
Estimate
And
We're
Going
To
Keep
Getting
Emails
And
This
Is
The
Funny
Thing
This
Is
Why
It
Falls
Into
That
Urban
Legend
Category
Because
We're
Going
To
Get
Emails
Both
Ways
For
Months
And
Months
To
Come
We're
Going
To
Get
An
Email
When
Somebody
Listens
To
Each
One
Of
These
Saying
Oh
No
It
Worked
For
My
Cousin
Sister's
Uncle
And
Then
Somebody
Else
Is
Going
To
Go
No
That's
Impossible
Because
You
Can't
Do
This
And
That
And
That
And
Then
Somebody
Is
Going
To
Yeah
I
Did
It
Myself
One
Time
It's
Going
To
Go
On
Forever
I
Need
To
Contact
I'm
You
Know
What
I'm
Going
I'm
Going
To
Write
This
Down
I'm
Not
Going
To
Try
To
Remember
I
Am
Going
To
Contact
Like
Western
Digital
And
Try
To
See
If
I
Can
Get
Somebody
There
To
Give
Me
A
Solid
Answer
You
Think
There's
Any
Chance
They
Would
Give
It
To
Me
Probably
Not
Did
You
Fall
Asleep
On
No
I
Don't
Have
One
I
Have
A
VTEC
Tube
I
Know
But
My
VTEC
Has
A
USB
Port
Sweet
Yeah
My
Western
Electric
Can
Kill
A
Man
I
Can
Oh
Wow
I
Guess
That
Wins
I
Can
Upload
Bitmap
Wallpaper
On
Mine
Alright
You
Still
Win
Alright
Next
Email
Don't
Mess
Don't
Mess
Don't
Mess
With
The
Western
Electric
Okay
Our
Next
Email
This
Week
Comes
From
DJ
Lunar
Says
I
Was
Wondering
First
What
Really
Happened
At
The
End
Of
Hack
TV
Episode
One
My
Imagination
Sucks
A lot
Of
The
Time
Okay
Let
Me
You
Know
I
I'm
Going
To
Do
This
As I
Go
Along
This
Is
Longer
Email
At
The
End
Of
Hack
TV
Episode
One
Some
Urban
Exploration
Continued
Into
Places
That
Would
Not
Be
Happy
To
Have
The
Footage
On
The
Air
That's
All
That's
All
I
Have
To
Say
About
That
Second
If
It
Wasn't
For
You
Guys
I
Would
Have
Never
Found
Out
About
Doug
TV
And
White
Sword
TV
As
Well
As
The
Broken
Sorry
About
That
Last
One
Going
Through
Websites
Third
I
Can't
Wait
Till
Episode
Two
One
Let's
See
One
And
One
And
A
Half
Kicked
Ass
I
Guess
One
And
A
Half
He
Must
Be
Referring
To
Pwned
The
Special
Episode
Pwned
One
And
One
And
A
Half
Kicked
Ass
You
Really
Pwned
Lucky
Fourth
I
Just
Wanted
To
Let
You
Know
I
Have
My
Own
Radio
Show
I
Hoping
That
You
And
Everyone
At
The
Shows
Broken
White
Sword
Doug
Etc
Can
Listen
To
Me
In
The
Near
Future
Tell
Me
What
You
Think
It's
Down
At
The
Moment
Trying
To
Get
A
Server
To
Work
Properly
Okay
So
I
Guess
We
Won't
Be
Listening
To
Anytime
Soon
Finally
Number
Five
Are
You
Are
Y'all
Out
Of
The
Orlando
Area
Of
Florida
Are
Y'all
In
Florida
Because
The
War
Driving
Part
One
Of
The
Places
Because
On
The
War
Driving
Part
One
Of
The
Places
That
Was
Getting
Packets
Was
Not
Blurred
And
I
Used
Google
To
Find
Its
Location
And
It
Said
Kissimmee
Or
However
The
Heck
You
Spell
It
Anyway
This
Is
DJ
Lunar
Signing
Out
Or
As
My
Friends
Call
Me
Not
Your
Typical
DDS
Dark
Deep
Dark
Saphira
Okay
Yeah
Um
Well
Let
Me
See
Let
Me
See
Um
Was
It
In
Orlando
I
Am
Not
Based
Out
Of
Orlando
I
Am
Based
Out
Of
Boston
Right
You
May
However
See
Footage
That
Could
Come
From
Anywhere
How
About
That
For
An
Answer
You
May
See
Footage
That
Because
We
Get
Around
I
Go
To
A
Lot
Of
Conferences
A
Lot
Of
Conventions
Do
A
Lot
Of
Traveling
So
Never
Be
Surprised
Where
You'll
Find
Footage
From
However
I
Don't
Think
There's
Any
Harm
In
Saying
That
I
Am
Actually
Located
In
South
Florida
Fort
Lauderdale
Miami
Area
So
No
And
Yes
I
Guess
I
Guess
That's
The
Answer
Yes
And
No
For
Your
Answer
To
Whether
That
Was
Anyway
He
Goes
On
To
Say
P.S.
I
Was
Listening
To
Episode
One
Of
Bin
Rev
Radio
Listening
From
The
Beginning
And
Was
Wondering
If
Perhaps
You
Knew
Of
Any
Sites
To
Get
Info
On
People
I
Actually
Got
Gypped
Out
Of
60
Bucks
From
A
Guy
Who
Was
Selling
Me
A
Video
Game
System
But
Never
Sent
It
And
As
Soon
As
I
Heard
About
That
On
Episode
One
I
Realized
I
Got
Majorly
Screwed
I
Would
Love
To
Go
To
New
Hampshire
And
Oh
New
Hampshire
Hey
That's
Not
Far
And
Kick
His
Ass
I
Too
Poor
For
An
Airplane
Ticket
So
I
Kind
Of
Want
To
Mess
With
Him
Somehow
Any
Who
One
Other
Small
Thing
I'm
Not
A
Hacker
But
I'm
Wanting
To
Take
Classes
To
Be
A
Good
Witch
Not
A
Bad
Witch
Are
You
A
Good
Witch
Or
A
Bad
Witch
Wizard
Of
Oz
I
Like
That
That's
Good
Stuff
And
Always
Tell
People
I'm
A
hacker in training so if anyone is ever called a script kitty and you know they don't read other
people's stuff well anyhow you get the idea i'll stop bugging you now and close my theme to the
radio show just because i'm sending it to a bunch of peeps uh if you like it and like all different
kinds of music i like from bach to prodigy from spice girls to max romeo be sure to check us out
uh sorry i'm a big talker in email sometimes anyhow peace out okay and then he closes to ask
where you can get our theme song from our show um well since you're only episode one where can you
get this theme song on the show could you point me to a place where i might find a link yeah since
you're since you're starting in episode one obviously keep listening you'll find out that
the answer is zero.com i'm gonna give the answer because that's what i do why waste time if i'm
not gonna give the answer zero.com z-e-a-r-l-e.com redesigned so um that's it let's move on from
that email um blah blah blah let's see where are we here time wise okay we're gonna well we're gonna
have to bust through these emails okay next email comes from pbx34k stank and guest co-host if this
is read on the air love the show i just picked up a random email writer hi i just
picked it up a few weeks ago and have already absorbed the entire second season and half of
the first episode 60 with in theory got me off my butt and into asterisk i had heard of it before
yeah it's that episode has gotten a lot of people into asterisk so that's awesome i had heard of it
before but never really thought much of it thanks to binrev i'm now the proud owner of my own pbx
uh yeah you uh you can you can relate to that one the hair can't you i am not i have to admit i'm not
the owner of my own pbx i figured there's so many yeah i know because you guys have so many of them
already that why make another one i'll just use yours okay a topic that came up in earlier episodes
was human ml or human markup language i remember this topic that was quite a while back uh for
which you actually missed it yeah that was that was a while back for which you expressed no optimism
i think your complaints about con artists using xml to fake a smile over irc while valid
misses some of the other possible uses for this protocol
protocol well protocol is not the right word there but i know what you mean all of your arguments
against hml seem centered around essentially client to client type applications while an xml
substandard such as hml or human markup language again provides a convenient format to be stored and
replayed one day client-side applications given this data could use it as a framework to create
convincing avatars both real-time and scripted using the various sensors uh let's see where did i
lose uh losing the basic information given in the hml the application would fill in the blanks
robotics could benefit from a concise method of accessing context of human speech and surrounding
environments various sensors within a robot would be able to connect and add data to the same xml files
generating a real-time log an operator could tell if the machine could tell the machine dig over there
while pointing to the location instead of instructing the robot to move specific directions
i think there really may be some use for this human ml stuff keep up the great work with the radio show
and magazine awesome work all right now this is a cool email this is a good email the guy
thinks for himself i assume it's a guy i i guess whatever the person thinks for themselves and catches
something that quite frankly is i think legitimate i think that's a very valid point
first of all um it's good to hear that people are listening to the old episodes that's awesome
the information in them should be holding up very well um a few of them might be dated
i don't really go back and listen to many of myself but for the most part it's teaching
fundamentals and a specific topic that doesn't change over time so hopefully they should stand up
very well over time i guess obviously time will tell but specifically you're talking about episode
40 i looked it up and you do have a very valid point with human markup language i'll give that
to you completely i was looking at the potential for abuse that's something that i you know i always do
i always consider that in all projects and everybody should the potential for abuse not only the potential
for use but the abuse as well and at the time i honestly didn't see any good applications for it
i think you did the only appetite application i saw was for avatars and i even joe and i said that
back then we even joked about them being nothing but fancy emoticons and how they could be easily
faked and that they were worthless and things like that however you have a very valid point here
and the ability to use data for later applications i was thinking all client to client exactly what you
said and you're absolutely right this would be a kind of something that could potentially be useful
well first of all let me let me back up and remind everybody that human markup language or hml
is an xml substandard just like rss is an xml substandard different formats of xml different tags of xml
to contain data data to a specific process podcasting is another one for example rss for
and human markup language is one that's supposed to have data for um facial expressions and and body
movements and things like that such as raising an eyebrow or how the mouth moves or a smile what
muscles and things like that so just to bring everybody up that's what that that's what it's referring to
but the focus extremity eyebrow value 60 degrees upward yeah exactly and how putting all that
together that and that's what our big joke was big deal you can make a fake avatar you can sit there
and flat bold face lie to somebody with the help of this you could be laughing your ass off but if
you send the proper uh human markup language to be smiling you could sit there and smile to their face
while you're lying to them so that was like one step closer to uh the metaverse man snow crash it's all
about well and and his examples too are are was not so much the now the the in the now or what's going
on right now of applying this but i now once he got once he mentioned this it got me to thinking that
this is the kind of thing that where the scripts could be saved and used later like for reenactment
of trials or or forensic analysis and things like that that you could keep this type of stuff on file
in some sort of data warehouse environment a warehouse of different um expressions and tendencies
and things that were done sociological standpoint things and you know stuff like that that could be
maybe searched for patterns at a later date from that standpoint yeah that is absolutely something i
hadn't thought of i think that's a very good point i don't know how honestly how useful it would be but
i do think it is a good point it still seems a little bit too arbitrary and difficult to reenact from a
historical standpoint but i'll admit the possibility that is something very much to to consider
and plus this just brings me one step closer to my jenna jameson ai come on dude you've already got three
the real dolls but but they're just that's not the same but you need them to actually wink at you and
talk back and stuff i thought i told you not to mention that on air um don't worry we'll edit that out
forget about it oh okay good good okay so yes thank you um for the email those are very good points
and that's that's a good email that's the kind of email i like to get very good stuff so pbx34k i gave
you shots for that that was a good one okay uh next email uh on this email spectacular or craptacular
i don't know uh comes from booter booter says stank dog i've been listening to stuff on phone
losers.org for a while now and found you guys through them rest assured binrev.com is bookmarked
i've always been interested in hacking cracking etc i'm trying to catch up on the radio shows which
are great but my question but what my question is what's the best advice for getting for someone
getting started in hacking i've read the usual docs online but nothing seems to point on where to
really get started i went to school for network administration and currently work for yahoo
doing web hosting support for yahoo well if you work for them i hope you're doing support for them
okay well booter welcome and hopefully you'll become our yahoo insider you can give us the inside
scoop on uh what kind of good stuff yahoo is hiding from us and just for the record not that i care but
we don't really have a direct affiliation with phone losers we have some friends in common we've both
been around for a while that sort of thing but they're them and we're us so um i'm glad that you
found us through them and i'm sure it works the other way around as well um as far as the best
way to get into hacking um black ratchet can affirm this that this is the question that we get a lot
lots of emails worded worded a little differently each time but i mean this is a this is a how to the
same question yeah this is a how how do i hack how to hack email dude how do i actually yeah we
sit and ask how to hack hotmail and he seems i don't know this one seems a little legitimate so
i'm gonna thought i'd take a little step here i should have learned better than with that first
email than taking a risk but anyway i i don't know this is i'll give some vague cliche stuff here and
hopefully it'll sink in a little bit the best way to get into hacking i mean again it is this is a
just an enormously vague question it really is there's no magic book that i can tell you go read
x y and z and that's it it's not that simple there's not even a magic book that i can tell you to get
started with there is no starting point that's the thing you've got to get past you can't believe or
think that there's something that you're missing like there's one thing out there that you need to
get started it's not that simple the best thing you can do and i know this is a horrible cliche
but you've got to train your mind you've got to open your mind and be able to think outside of the
box as the saying goes think outside color outside of the lines you've got to think outside of the
limitations that you face so what that means really to put it in more plain english question everything
everything always question everything how does this work how does that work why can't i do this
what happens if i do that where does my lap go when i stand up um mine doesn't go anywhere but
um i see my solution is i never stand up um but yeah learn is learn as much as you can about
everything and just don't take no for an answer now i know that sounds really silly and you're
thinking that doesn't help me it really does start consciously make an effort to consciously
think overthink things for a while anything work related that you run into any website that you come
across start thinking outside of what you see before you and i'm done it might i'm starting to sound
like matrixy or something aren't i yes i don't want to sound all weird basically just don't i took the
blue pill yeah i took them both and man did i get a massive headache i took the blue pill in a 50k
amphetamine chaser oh yeah yeah baby uh it really is the hacker mindset is the fundamental building block
from which everything else grows and that's the only thing that i can tell you as far as thinking
about it and that is the most important thing you have to get that thought process working first and
foremost a hacker doesn't just ask why a hacker asks why not that's the biggest thing and you've got
to train yourself to do that and to some of us i guess that's how we knew that we were different or
knew that we were hackers is because we've always done that it can be trained it can be taught it's
just not something that you're taught in schools and everywhere else so it is definitely something
that you have to make a conscious effort to try to do when you read something don't just go by what
you see on the paper you know there's another story behind that just because you read one side of an
article you know that somebody else has a different opinion try to think what that opinion is try to
think why did they say this why does it mean that what does it mean here what if i didn't do this
what if they did do that question everything now that's all well and good and i hope honestly i i
sincerely mean it that is very important to do that and start training yourself to do that as far as the
technical aspects now that's really what he wants right i don't know most people want to know this man
yeah well most are you asking me most people want the magic bullet they want you to tell them okay
download this program and you can hack the gibson and it's not you know i think it's not that simple
it's just there's no one what do you mean it's not that simple i'm using krad hacksaw 2.0 from
microsoft well yeah i mean i've been elite ever since i downloaded ao hell but you know god oh man
we're talking about god this is like the the reminiscing episode yeah i went old school yeah
i went old school on you that time um thanks yeah it's it's and then actually that kind of
demonstrates the point is even if you had a program or some book or whatever it changes it's outdated
you have to be able to adapt so the simple answer for the technical aspects of what you want is to
read not just a book not just a particular place and not i'm not going to tell you something specific
to read there's not one thing that you can read it's generally read read everything that you can
get your hands on and read critically do critical reading while in the state of mind i described
earlier read thinking outside of the lines don't accept the words that are on the page as gospel
but try to build upon them try to understand them and learn them and take them a step further
so not only will you read and understand what you're reading but you'll be able to build on it
and start coming up with things on your own what about this i wonder if i can do that that type of
stuff so one of the best things i ever you know you ever can ever ask when reading something is
well why can't the system work this way yeah that's that's how revolutions take place that's
how changes happen because somebody questions it to say i think i can do this let's see what happens
when i press this button exactly oh blue screen of death why'd you push that button man the show
was going along good and you just blue screened it dude you're new don't push buttons anymore okay
dude i'm using my k-right hackster 2.0 from microsoft yeah just don't push all i gotta do is pull
you're gonna do is pull down your menu from the you know super elite choose the person you want to
hack and i took you to stank dog and i just shoot hack store system yeah i think you're cute i think
you're queued up i think there's probably 500 people in front of you to hack stank dog
yeah but they don't have you know k-right hack store 2.0 that i downloaded from bill gates uh personal
directory well what if they have 2.1 they have a newer version oh man i haven't run windows update in a
while so yeah it comes with it comes with windows update that's good okay anyway that's uh that's
it go to docdroppers.org lots of different texts on there but no one of them is some magic thing but
read through them all learn from them build upon them give feedback to them etc and uh read them and
the ones that interest you and see if you can take them a step further that's pretty much it good luck
one of the things you didn't mention was um you know hell just hang around bin red forums and you
get like tons of juicy little nuggets out of there oh yeah if you have a question ask it you know if
you're afraid of getting flamed ask it at newbie hq you can't get hack sorted you can't get a hack
sword yeah i guess i have an eye on the mind you can't get uh flamed in there that's i mean you know
go ahead do it that's a good point i forgot about that we have a flame free zone the newbie hq you can
ask anything and if somebody flames you will ban them that simple so you've got a safe place
and listen to the radio show yada yada pimp pimp whatever okay uh next email how many more do i
got boy this is gonna okay next email from digital galileo who says dear stank dog i just found your
show about a week ago and i've been trying like a madman to catch up 80 something episodes anywho
why is everybody machine anywho i just installed my first distro of linux fedora core 3 and i found
that there is no support for mp3 besides the linux port of real player oh god uh which i hate with a
passion that no language short of klingon could express and i can't speak klingon you speak klingon
don't you no i don't that sounded good though yeah no one did that's that point no one else speaks so
you can just like sort of like you know say like you know any type of guttural phrase and people
were like whoa nobody would yeah nobody could have called you on that nobody nobody i do know
one word and that's uh which is success and back when i was a severe trekkie in high school that's
what i used to cry out every once in a while oh gosh all right come on i've been like five years
clean i wouldn't yeah i wouldn't have admitted that on the air but yeah yeah there was nothing wrong
with that oh recovering trekkie oh come on like you never did anything embarrassing during high
school oh man i don't share those stories on the air uh i was hacksawing the gibson when i was in
high school and rollerblading and riding motorcycles and making out with an angelina jolie
um oh and selling how high school did you go to man um whichever one was in suddenly like you know
you have 50 listeners signing up to like you know dude i gotta transfer into southern florida i don't
care oh man uh let's see so anywhere oh where was i so anyway i was wondering if you know where i
can get an aug version of your show thanks for an awesome show and keep doing what you're doing
okay fedora perfectly fine distro to start with don't worry about the distro wars or anything if
that's the one you chose go with it try something else later if you want perfectly fine good starting
yeah whatever so yeah yeah blah blah blah now i promised a long long long long long time ago that
i'd put out binrev in aug format frankly i haven't had time shut up debian's fine too but let the guy
don't get him spending time switching distros what the debian do you mean uh yes subliminal now are we
it is uh oh okay so yeah i haven't had time to uh encode this stuff into all the format it's like the
lowest of low priorities to me quite frankly i just have so much other more things to do i had people
offer which i appreciate but that's not really doesn't really help me because you have to encode from
the original files for to have the quality and they're 700 megs plus per episode times 85 episodes
do the math be a lot to send digitally or even burn it to dvd is not even reasonable so and space was
an issue in the past now we've got a new server now it's not such much an issue but the time is so
uh other than that real player sucks i'll give you that one and uh in klingon we say
i don't know i made that up that probably that's the funny thing is it probably did mean something
and i don't even know
probably means i have it never mind
so oh now you're gonna act like you don't know what it means to pretend like you don't know klingon
be honest
well i guess he can't be honest if he's dropped off the line the second time i guess he got another call
in so i'm going to continue on with the email here and boy we're running this is going to be an all
email show so i'm going to wrap this up quickly um email from zedex z-e-d-e-x-x who says hey guys
hello from new zealand and thanks for the show the tv show and the magazine they are all great
and i really enjoy listening watching and reading them the handle luco zady from episode 82 that's a
british is a british energy drink called luco zady i reckon the name is a play on that so luco zady
is how i'd pronounce it so we have an answer to that mr dropped offline somebody called me again
no i don't know what that happened i think i think actually this one was new phone
well new phone sucks all right so i guess so all right now i've taken like you know complete
measure against it i've called over my copper line so unless someone blows up the uh you know my
switching station i hopefully will work all right hopefully the sound qualities hopefully you're loud
enough that people are still going to hear the sound levels but uh got to burn through this
electric phone yeah we got to burn through this super fast because we're not even going to get
through the email that doesn't look like tonight um i know uh from the same company oh from the
same episode amstrad is a british computer company amstrad.co.uk they made 8-bit computer in the 80s
which i guess is what the guy referring to and they bought out sinclair hope you've heard of them
they made the awesome zx-81 and spectrum home machines which were my introduction to computers
finally i have a tip for dealing with that name in a while yeah yeah that's that's a long sinclair
finally i have a tip for dealing with real media files i use the streambox ripper program and the
streambox vcr suite to convert them to mp3 unfortunately you still have you still have to
have the real player installed so the converter has access to the real codec but at least this
means you only need it on one machine and you actually have to run the real player program
so thank you for that i appreciate it lesser of the two evils also sent me an email about the
energy drink and the pronunciation so thank you for the email and once again the real socks thank
you very much um next email we got two more i'm going to hurry up uh email from lane wired who says
thank dog it is thanks to people like you that people understand what hacking is all about i hope
so thank you i have been listening for about a month and i have pretty much caught up with wow all
the episodes in a month i have recently ordered binrev magazine can't wait to get them i wanted to
know if there is any other merch merchandise i could buy to support your work or if you accept
paypal donations maybe there's something i could do to help cough cough co-host a show
cough cough let me know okay one last question i was wondering how many regular listeners the show
has keep up the good work i know you put a lot of effort into this but remember we listeners really
appreciate it p.s i know everyone has gmail now but in case any of the listeners don't have one yet
i'd be more than happy to give all my invites out i have like 40 left uh and he has his email here i
won't read it on the air because um we have a thread in the member or in the uh forum for giving out gmail
and uh very generous of you and there's a lot of other people doing the same thing so just feel free
to post them in there uh request them in there tons of people have them now so they're not exactly a
premium so in general thank you for the kind words i like you know i'm glad to see that people
actually get it i'll tell you what let's jump it's kind of hard i'll jump into the to the question
about how many listeners and and then come back to the merchandise stuff well i'm still waiting for
the merchandise stuff i want to know when i can get binrev the flamethrower uh it is hard to determine
how many listeners we have all together quite frankly because of the fact that um well that we can't
count wait a minute did it what oh no because the fact that there's a bunch of mirrors out there
that we just can't can't count all of them so because of that all i can do is really give you an
estimate now the estimate is based on our website and a ballpark estimate to put it in perspective
is that we get about and remember most people download the show there's can be upwards of 50 people
listening to it when it streams usually it's more like 15 to 25 range listening to it live most people
download it the next day or within a week or two so i'd estimate that anywhere between 1500 and 2000
listeners within the first week that we released the show for download so and those are the you know
the regular listeners who are coming back and checking for us each week or on the podcast or
something like that and then of course it starts to drop down over time um i think it's very safe it's
being very very conservative to say that any one episode right now by the end by within one month
of it being released has around 3 000 listeners just from our site alone hello listeners blackratchet.org
visit it yeah just watch your see if we can get your hits to spike as an experiment yeah sure might
as well i mean no one else was the damn site also uh you have another payphone list yapple.org
my apple yeah do you have that um working again by the way that uh m hash problem we were having
um yes yes i'll tell you how i fixed it later okay we'll talk about that later and to put in just
another little kind of funny tidbit here is people keep downloading of course and you've heard some of
the other listeners say some of the other uh email writers say that they are listening to the old
episodes so to put a little bit more perspective on it going back to the first few episodes the first
10 episodes we're getting about 100 listeners on those so far like about 100 to 150 a month still
listening to the first episodes so people are going back and downloading the first episodes as well so
obviously the newer ones are what most people download and start going backwards so
3 000 not counting other sites so and and growing and growing each week which is awesome so welcome
to old listeners and new listeners alike now for the merchandise stuff thank you for the opportunity
actually you're giving me a platform to talk about this because i have a weird lunchbox i haven't yeah
i have a kind of a weird thought handle on this i don't really feel right taking donations i just
feel weird about it i don't i'm not comfortable with it so i've never put up donation links no one ever
knows where the money's going with something like this and i try to be up front but there's always
people who think that we're getting rich and i'm sitting on a pile of money and people are donating
and stuff i i just don't even want to avoid the potential accusations because again as we saw earlier i get
accused of stuff like unwarrantedly so i'll just avoid the search circumstances altogether if you
do want to make a donation i mean i'm not going to turn it down or anything you can just send anything
to orders at binrev.com it's the same address when you order something that goes to however i would
prefer that you just buy the magazine because that way you get something in your hands you actually
get some tangible benefit something that you can read and pass on order extras if you're really
generous and you really want to support order some extra ones so that and hand them out to your friends
or get people reading them educate people i'd rather that than just donating money outright because it
just feels better to me personally um we don't charge for the site for the tv show for the radio show for
any of that kind of stuff and i don't plan on it but if you buy a magazine it helps us produce more of
these all of the stuff that you would buy from us or any money that you donate goes back into producing
these things if i have to buy a new microphone to do the radio show that's what the money goes to
most of the money goes to the printing costs of the magazine which we're still in the hold on so
it's not like we're making really any money so any money that does come in from this stuff we
reinvest it to make t-shirts and to make more magazines and to buy equipment or whatever we
have to do so so when is the stank dog action figure coming out in a in action figure you mean
the stank dog action figure you know with the laptop accessory and real war driving action war
driving action yeah you pull the string you have the stank mobile with interchangeable cooler parts
you pull the string and i can flame on command got to do the closing here in a second um
uh just to say other as far as other products go we are actually working on t-shirts possibly some
polo shirts or hats or something i'm not going all crazy i don't know why people make thongs i don't
foresee anybody wearing a binrev thong but please correct me if i'm wrong if you're one of the ladies
and would like a thong email us and let us know as long as you're going to take a picture just for
ladies thanks for the visual i think that one's just sub-zero's uh working on a t-shirt uh he mentioned
in the forums and i'm trying to put one together for interzone any day now we'll have that stuff up
so as soon as we do we'll post it on the website so there's something else you can do to to help
support and we put that money back into like i said the other projects and stuff and and and if you
don't believe there are people who don't believe you should give any money for anything like that
that's fine too okay you don't have to do any of this you're welcome to the forums and the radio show
just do me one favor and don't bitch it's free exactly thank you so if you do want to support
us and pay we'll gladly accept it and try to keep producing stuff for the deadbeats out there
anyway thank you and the other thing is thank you for for that line about appreciating us i don't
i don't need to have my ego stroked or anything but once in a while it is it's truly nice sincerely
to hear somebody say that they appreciate what we do i really it really is nice to just hear it once
in a while especially after that first email that i talked about and people like that it's really
nice to know that somebody does support us and care and understand so thank you for that sincerely
i appreciate it now we are going to have to jump i'm afraid this was an all email show it's just too
much to catch up on so we're going to have to to thank you can never take a vacation ever again i know
i know and i mailed i sent some of the emails to doug i just couldn't get all of them over there
all right well first of all we're closing out reminder 2600 meetings this friday
i actually finally go to the boston 2600 oh cool well you can tell us about that on an upcoming
episode how that goes yes um shout outs i've got anyone wants me to meet me just you know
send me a line and i'll introduce myself okay i'll go ahead and put a couple of mine out first for
the shouts i want to shout out to nix nyx who's been updating hackermedia.net with our show
i appreciate him doing that because i never have time to go out and do that kind of stuff myself
if i had to go out to every single site that had listing of shows and add it i would never ever have
time it would just it would be just such a time i don't have time to do that so i sincerely appreciate
nix doing it for me so um i just try to concentrate on putting the show out and hopefully others will
help get the word out and help share remember folks you can't spell nine x without nix that's exactly
right and let's see most people know what nine x is i'm gonna have to explain that if you don't know
what nine x is shame on you uh and from infotex um who he's been working back and forth with me on
email he wrote an application called eyedropper which also is a fantastic name what a great appropriate
name um and it's at uh actually he tiny url this for us which is nice tiny url.com slash
six nine ccc and basically that's really cool and what it is is it takes the xml feed from doc
droppers and makes it accessible to your ipod so it's very completely awesome yeah so i need to go
i need to get one of those free ipods so i think i might go hang out at kevin rose and just beg for
people to click on my referral link and uh lastly sincere thanks again to doug doug did a fantastic job
with the show on short notice he's welcome to come back anytime sincerely it was a good job and
i think everybody i i'm sure that everybody agrees i mean he did fantastic job taking over the show
so that's it for me you got any shouts you want to throw out there um i'll i'll second your motion on
uh doug and lucky they did an awesome show i just recently listened to him from like you know the past
two episodes and they really did they kicked ass yeah they did great job stuck with the format
i'll send shouts out to uh strom carlson and uh phone trips.com both of which are unrelated but
anyway other than that i don't know okay and uh email us if we ever get caught up on email we might
get to your email email us everyone put a post moratorium on email for one week radio at
binrev.com now we'll catch up to all of them that we just had a couple long ones we had to address
at the beginning of the show unfortunate ones but email us radio binrev.com our closing music this
week is i went i went different i'm switching it up this time going with a little jazz little jazz
from a group called the south street band the song's called black and blue so we're going to get jazzy with
it and black razzle thank you for being on the show even though it was pretty much me reading emails most
of it oh it's always enjoyable to be on the show well we'll um we'll have a more proper show after
you go to your meeting and fill people in and we got inner zone coming up so the busy times are
still coming so um i guess it's going to do it for this week so we'll tell everybody that we will
see them next week same hack time same hack channel
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Thank you.