This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast
You need some ISOs? Let me do my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Cause CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RANs, SIPs, SIS
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
I am StankDog
You are listening to Binary Revolution Radio
Episode 91 coming to you this day in history
On April 12, 2005
And today's show is our first ever
Voice Pulse to Voice Pulse recorded show
And according to our co-host this week, Mr. 225
It could quite possibly be our last?
Yeah, that's correct
I mean, I'm ditching Voice Pulse
And from what you tell me
You're thinking about ditching it too
But I think you're in a contract with them, right?
Yeah, I'm not very smart
I signed up for your contract
Now, I'm probably six months into it, maybe
Four or five months into it
Something like that
So I don't have too much longer to deal with them
But yeah, I mean
I've had them go out for certain periods of time
I mean, I've had to reschedule recording of the show
Because they were out like on a Sunday night
Or a Monday night or something
When I was planning on recording
Which is when we normally record the show
So yeah, I've had to reschedule
Because of their inability to maintain a connection
Yeah, and unfortunately
I think you're going to be seeing a lot of that
With all
We got all these basically
They're startup VoIP companies
Who wanted to get in on the market
And make some gain
You know, and I switched over to Broadvoice
Because it's only $19.95 a month
And, you know, same problem
I'm getting the same problem here
And I just have to deal with it
Fortunately, though
I don't use my phone for outgoing calls that much
I just, I'm basically using their number as a DID
So people can call my cell phone
Which just happens to be ringing
So let me try and find it and turn it off
Alright, well I do the same thing
With my voice pulse set up
I have the call hunting or whatever
I mean, I don't know who calls what trademark name
But the thing where it will forward to wherever
Like it'll ring at my house for a few rings
And it'll ring on my cell, etc, etc
So I have the same thing set up
And that is really handy
But that is something that all of the VoIP providers provide
So it's not like it's a voice pulse trick
I mean, if I go to Vonage or one of the others
They're going to offer the same thing
True, true
But there was that caller ID spoofing little exploit
Which came in handy every once in a while with voice pulse
Yeah
But I've since switched over to another voice over IP carrier
For doing my caller ID spoofing
I'd rather pay the two cents a minute
Than stick with voice pulse on their shitty service
Yeah, I have to say
I mean, I do like it
It's kind of handy that I have some privacy protection
Thanks to their inadequate setup
I guess, for lack of a better word
Because the way they've set things up
They give me a level of privacy
And that's really what sold me on voice pulse
I just shouldn't have gone for the one year contract
Yeah, I understand that, definitely
Oh well
Yeah, and a lot of the other voice over IP carriers
Will send your CPN when you start 6-7
So, yeah, your number can still get out there
When you're placing outbound calls
Except for, obviously, with voice pulse
It sends a 2-1-2 number or something
Right, right, exactly
But, I mean, and you know what
I have to say
Voice pulse is one of the more reliable carriers
Which is pretty sad
Well, yeah, that's real sad
Well, no, but
I've never heard anybody
When it comes to reliability, Vonage
I always hear Vonage
Good things about it
Yeah, well
And I know they gear towards
I was just going to say that, too
Is that Vonage is the number one in reliability
However, I cannot come to terms
With their terms of service bullshit
They're sending me emails
Saying that I was using them for business calls
And then, of course, they switched me over to business
And I could not convince them to switch me back
So, I told them, you know what
You guys can just fuck off
Right, right
But that's
And that is, again, though
For most users like myself
I'm not going to be using it as much as you were
So, I'm not in danger of getting switched to a business account
Well, you would think that
Yeah, well
I mean, I feel that I should not have been in danger either
If they're going to advertise unlimited
Then it should be unlimited
Oh, I agree
Don't get me wrong
But
Because you went over their unlimited limit
They decided
Well, I don't want to get into this whole argument again
Yeah, well, we've rehashed
We're going to be tangenting off into Packet Aid
And every other VoIP carrier
If we go into that
Yeah, go back and listen to Default Radio
For more information on this discussion
It's been done before
Yeah, definitely
Well, like I said
So, VoIP for the home user
I don't think it's quite here yet
That's basically a statement I was trying to make
No matter what carrier you go with
Even Vonage cuts out, you know
Sometimes, though
Well, I think it's here
It just is not perfect yet
That's all
Yeah, it needs a little improvement
Yeah
In fact, broad voice
The area code and prefix they gave me
Which is not even a local prefix, by the way
I had to choose something that was a local toll call
However, that area code and prefix
Is not even programmed correctly
The routing for it is not programmed correctly
In some of the switches out here
Some of the people that try to call me
Are receiving a fax when they call from certain areas of the 909
Well, everyone else can get through to me
So I don't know what all that's about either
I'm not sure if that's a SELEC problem
That's got to be a switching problem
Or if it's, you know
What's going on with that?
That's got to be a switching problem locally at the SELEC
You would think, right?
Yeah, I'm assuming
Well, because it's only when people are calling me from their landline
And I think it's only out of one central office
So I don't know if it's on
And the central office is served by Verizon
And, you know, I can call it fine from my central office
But this one particular person that tries to call me
When they try and call me from their landline
They get a fax
And I'm not sure if that's on Verizon's end
Or if it's on the SELEC's end
You know, I'm not really sure yet
So, I'm trying to figure out who to blame for that
Yeah, well
Speaking of blame
I actually have a little
I have a little problem today
I'm having a bad weekend
I'm having a frustrating weekend, I've got to say
Speaking of cell phones going off like yours did earlier
My cell phone
I'm
It's not a cell phone rant
See, I have my cell phone set up
That I get news alerts sent to it
And I think I've talked about this on the show before
I have anything with a keyword hacker
If there's a news story that goes through with the keyword hacker
Then it sends it to my cell phone
I also have it set up
And that's fine
You know, I get one every couple days maybe
Of new hacker vulnerability found
Or hacker breaks into something
Or, you know, whatever their headline is
But I also have it set up to send me like
Top story headlines
And, you know, I
If it was going to be too much
If I was going to be getting too many of them
I can turn it off easily
But all in all
I get maybe one every day or two
It's always been very
Non-obtrusive
I don't get a whole bunch of them
For some reason this weekend
The thing just started going
Ape shit
And sending me all kinds of crappy
Top news alerts
And just before we started to record
I got a cell phone alert
Top story that says
Quote
Crime hits the net
Holy shit
No, there's crime on the fucking internet
Are you kidding me with this shit?
Oh my god
Crime on the internet
Who would have ever thought that might happen?
That's breaking fucking news
Isn't that just the fucking most brilliant thing
You've ever heard of?
How did I possibly miss
That there's crime
Somewhere on the global internet?
Am I completely
Am I blind to this kind of thing?
Where was I?
Did I turn the other way and miss it?
Was I looking like behind me
When crime hit the internet
And I was completely out of the loop?
I mean what the fuck?
How did this turn of events happen
And me not be aware of it
Until I got this
Breaking news text message
On my cell phone
The whole fucking internet is doomed
Now that there's crime on the
Lucky, did you know there's crime on the internet?
I did it
There's crime
No, it's fact
I got it on my cell phone
It's gotta be true
It's a top story
Sent to me by
AP Press
Or whatever the hell
Is providing their top stories
That's a federal offense in it
And you know
I'm sure Interpol is getting on it
You can't have crime on the internet
That's like illegal or something
You know what took them so long
You know what
Honestly
What took them so long to get crime?
I knew it was a matter of time
Before crime ever made it to the internet
I don't know why it took so long
I mean
I've been just traipsing around the internet
You know
Just throwing out my credit card
And personal information
And what not
You know
Thinking I was just all safe
And honky dory
But apparently there's crime
On the fucking internet
Well I just must be in the dark
Stank
Because
I just found out a couple weeks ago
That the internet's on computers now
Oh get the fuck out of here
No wonder there's so much crime
On the internet
If the internet's on computers
What's the world coming to?
What is the fucking world coming to
When there's crime on the internet?
But you know what
There's a bigger story here
There's a bigger thing here
That pisses me
This is why this pisses me off
More than
Is this what really passes
For news these days?
Is this what the fucking mass media
Considers news?
Crime hits the net
No fucking shit
What the hell kind of
Stupid ass report is that?
This is the motherfucking top story
That they felt the need
To instant message
And send to every cell phone
And put at the top of the news headlines
Crime hits the net
That's real fucking brilliant
That is
That is just absolutely
The greatest
I just hate the fucking media
More than more
Than I ever thought
I could possibly hate them
They just make shit up
Or they
And they just pass the shit off
As journalism
This is journalism
Crime hits the net
That's investigative journalism
At it's motherfucking finest
Only the brilliant lines of the world
Could come up
With a headline like that
And let it
I'm glad they let me know about it
Because now I feel safe
For knowing that there's crime
On the internet
And I didn't know that
Before I got this message
That's all the fucking media does
And it makes me sick
That this is what
They pass off as news
Somebody got paid
And spent a lot of time
To come up with this
Fucking story
If it's not this stupid
Made up bullshit story
Then it's some kind of
Over sensationalized
Bullshit story
To the point where
You can't even believe it
Some story that's so
Overwhelmingly biased
And ruined
Is so ridiculous
It's less believable
Than a fucking sitcom
I can watch an episode
Of punky fucking Brewster
And believe that shit
Better than a story
That I read in the
Fucking public media
I can watch Webster
I can imagine
That there's a little
Two foot black child
And it's been adopted
By two rich white family
And raised in their household
Who never grows an inch
I can believe that
More as reality
Than I can believe
What I see on the mass media
Whether it's local news
Whether it's NBC news
Fox news
All the big channels
CNN
All this bullshit
Even the fucking Simpsons
Look like a real family
Compared to what I see
On the goddamn news
Pisses me off
And I'm getting tired of it
It's always this inane drivel
Like this shit
That means absolutely nothing
Crime hits the net
What a waste of my fucking time
They are just now realizing
That crime hits the net
That's the most ridiculous thing
That I've ever heard
All these things
They're doing in between
Reporting stories
Of biased news stories
That's obviously slanted
Whether it's to their
Political agenda
Or the political candidate
Of choice
Whether it's
Liberally biased
Conservatively biased
Or whatever
Or they're selling out
To their advertisers
You know what else?
I like reality shows
I watch a couple of them
But guess what?
I've watched Survivor
I get it
Target gives you soap
Every once in a while
Get the fucking Target logo
Off the island
You're giving them
A Ford Focus
Or some shit
When they win it
You know what?
Put them on the Survivor show
To survive
Give them a knife
Let them cut the fuck out
To the other
Whoever wins
Whoever's left standing
That's a fucking Survivor
Don't stick all this
Damn advertising and shit
In there
And think I'm too stupid
To notice it
Television has gone
All to hell
It's all biased
It's all ruined
Advertising has fucked it all up
Including the news
And it shouldn't be
Screwing up
What supposedly
The news
The fake news
There is no real news
On the mass media anymore
It's fucking ridiculous
I just
I'm sick of it
I do not watch
The news anymore
I don't watch
My local news
I don't watch
CNN
MSNBC
Fox News
ABC News
NBC
Any of that shit
Boycott the mass media
Fuck them all
I'm literally spellbound
Stank
I've never heard you
Go off like that before
I don't know why
I've heard you go off
On your rants
But uh
You know
I'm looking at the top
Of the notes here
It says cut back
On the foul language
All right
Well I can't stick to that
This is definitely
Not one to listen to
With your grandmother
But damn it
I don't know why
This pressed my button
So much
Crime hits the net
It's just
It's just dumb
You know there's a
Three year old out there
Going no shit
You fuckers
There's crime on the net
It's just stupid
Well I couldn't agree
With you more
I mean obviously
Uh
There's other
Uh
Media reports
That are
Just as similar
I mean
Uh
There was this
Caller ID spoofing
Report
About someone
Uh
About someone
Pranking like a
Bill Clinton in Arkansas
Or something
Not
Not the president
Or the former president
But uh
Someone who just
Happened to have that name
And lived in Arkansas
And when they were
Pranking
They were using
Uh
They were using
Caller ID spoofing
And they were also
Spoofing his number
To his neighbors
And I guess uh
The sensational journalist
Uh
You know
He hyped it all up
He's like
Hackers can hijack
Your phone number
And have it displayed
Well you know
And that
That sucks too
That's another thing
That gets old
After a while
But that's just
That's somebody
Who's misleading
And misinformed
Which is also
Pretty crappy
And pathetic
Uh
Pathetic example
Of what the media is
But crime hits the net
I mean
Come on
Yeah
Somebody had a deadline
Pointing out the obvious
That's like uh
Yeah
Pointing out the obvious
Somebody had a deadline
And couldn't come up
With anything
Oh crime hits the net
That sounds good
Yeah
Anyway let's do some
Carjackers can steal cars
Yeah exactly
Rain is wet
More at 11
What the fuck
You know
It's just
You know what
Let's do some email
Alright
Alright uh
Let's see here
Our first email
This week
I gotta get my
Blood pressure down here
Our first email
This week
Comes from
Slander
Slander says
What a nickname
I stumbled onto
Your show
Sometime in the last
Three days
All kind of a blur
Haven't slept in a while
It is
It is beautiful
As far as it goes
I have to know
If you can bring back
Lucky 225
In a few shows
I love you Stank
But Lucky is
Diabolical
And he is
Truly genius
Wow
That's uh
I have been
Listening forward
And backward
To your shows
And picked up
Some default radio
After I heard you
Pimp it out
A few times
I was wanting
To know
What decoder
Did to get
Locked in a
Steel box
And is he
In fed
Or state
I mean
I could guess
But it just
Isn't the same
You know
Alright
Slander
Um
Well
Your wish
Is our command
Ask and you
Shall receive
The diabolical
Genius himself
Lucky 225
Is with us
Tonight
As you've
Already heard
I would not
Consider myself
Either of those
Adjectives
That was funny
Lucky
That was a good one
That's the public
Perception
And what can I do
But run with it
Right
Exactly
Well I don't know
About the genius part
But anyway
Lucky's my dog
Everybody knows that
And actually
You've been on the
Show a lot
I don't know
I guess
You haven't been on
Lately I guess
It's been a while
So anyway
Back on this one
Now
About decoder
And you and I
Can kind of
Both address this
Because
With decoder's
Situation
We really can't
Talk too much
About it
And the reason
Is very simple
It's nothing
Underhanded
Or anything like that
It's just simply
That I personally
Have been legally
Advised
And I've spoken
And not for myself
But I've been
Calling on some
Favors and
Getting some lawyers
Involved in
Decoder's situation
And trying to help out
And I was told
And advised legally
That releasing
Any information
On decoder's situation
Right now
At this point in time
And this is why
We haven't released
Anything in the past
Since this has happened
Because releasing
Anything is not
In decoder's
Best interest right now
He is still
In process
He's in the process
Of the legal system
And he's still
Got chances
Of working out a deal
Or the whole thing
Falling through
Or them finding out
They've done something wrong
Or realizing that
The findings
Are unbiased
There's just so many
Things that could
Still happen right now
And having it thrown out
Or something worked out
So while there's still
A possibility of that
We don't want to get involved
In any way shape or form
Excuse me
We'll let the lawyers
Handle that
And that's what's
Going on right now
So we can't go
Into too much detail
About that
But
Announcing too much
Information here
Or asking anybody
To get involved
Or anything like that
It's not going to do
A whole lot
If we make a big scene
And get everybody
Fired up
Writing in letters
Complaining
Getting it out in the news
Free Kevin
Blah blah blah
You know what
The free Kevin movement
Didn't really get Kevin
Out any sooner
You know
If anything
It could be argued
That it made it worse
That's a whole different
Topic
I don't want to get
Into that argument
But
Right now
And Decoder's best interest
Is to just stay calm
And not stir things up
If we go causing trouble
And make it a big deal
And expose all this stuff
Then the chances of him
Getting a fair shake
And getting anybody to
You know
Once you get it in the media
Then they're going to feel
The need to really push it
Even harder
So it's not in his best interest
To make a big deal
Or a big spectacle
Of this
Right now
However
There's going to come a point
Where either
Something good will happen
Or something bad will happen
And it will be painfully obvious
That
When that time arrives
If he's not getting a fair shake
If something's not going
Something's not going his way
And it becomes a point where
It is time
To release the information
And let that full story be known
Then
We will do
Of course
Whatever we can
To help out
Decoder
But until that time
Our legal advice
To sum it up
For our audience
Is Stafoo
Shut the fuck up
And just wait it out
So I'm sorry
We can't give more information
Than that
However
There is something
We can do
Right Lucky
Yes that's right
You can always send
Your letters
Or emails of support
And we're not going to
We're not going to
Release his mailing address
Where he's currently
Incarcerated
However
If you want to
Handwrite your letters
You can send them
To my post office box
At PO box
1111
That's
1111
Guasti
G-U-A-S-T-I
California
Zip code
There's
91743
And then
The last four
Is 1111
The same as
The box number
And
You can just
Address it to
Decoder
Care of
Lucky 225
And then
The PO box
Information
And I will
I will receive
His letters
I won't
Open them
Or anything
Like that
I'll simply
Put them
In another
Envelope
And address it
Actually I don't
Know I hate to
Say this
But maybe
You should
Open them
Because
There's certain
Information
They're going to
Be searching
All of his
Email that
Goes in there
Well all of
His mail
That goes in
There
I'm sorry
Did I say
Email
Yeah all of
His mail
That goes in
They're going
To check it
All so
I don't know
If we should
Blindly be
Forwarding anything
In there
I hate to
Say it
But maybe
It would be
Again in his
Best interest
If we check
What gets sent
I hate to
Say that
I don't
I don't know
I know that's
A privacy thing
But you know
What
I don't know
What do you
Think about that
I'm not sure
Well see
Because I was
Going to say
That we are
Going to
We are
We are going
To have
An email
Address set up
Which is
Decoder
At default
Radio.com
And you can
Send your
Emails there
And we will
We will
Be screening
The emails
Because we're
Going to have
To print
Those emails
And then
Actually
And then
Actually put
Them in an
Envelope
And send
Them off
And we
Will have
To screen
That
Because
Because we're
Going to be
Basically mailing
Stuff that
Has already
Been mailed
To us
First
And
Right
And it
Goes without
Saying to
Everybody too
That
This is going
To be
Screened
Like Lucky
Said
Not only
By
I guess
Doug and
Lucky
Are going
To check
It out
And make
Sure
What goes
Through
But also
Like I said
This is going
To be read
By the
Guards
In the
Prison
Or whatever
When it
Goes in
So
Don't do
Anything
Stupid
You know
Don't send
Anything stupid
Don't send
Anything
Incriminating
Just send
You know
Hey how are
You doing
Hey have
You read
About this
Have you
Heard about
That
Something to
Stimulate him
Get him
Talking
No
Magazines
And
How does
What is
That rule
No magazines
No bulk
Items
Or something
Yeah
The only
Thing he
Can receive
Basically
Is letters
Yeah no
Magazines
Stuff like
That
All that's
Going to
Get filtered
Out
Basically
Yeah
And the
Guards
Will probably
Read the
Letters
I'm pretty
Sure they
Read them
Before it
Even gets
To decoder
I'm certain
They do
But
What I was
Going to
Say was
The physical
Mail
You know
I'm saying
If someone's
Going to
Take the
Time
To write
That stuff
Out
I don't
Personally
Want to
Go through
Everyone's
Written mail
You know
But at the
Same time
Somebody who
Didn't like
Decoder
Could really
Make things
Bad for him
But I
Believe that
Whatever is
Going to be
Screened out
Is going to
Be screened out
By the
Guards
Yeah but
Well if
They can
Use that
Everything
That gets
Sent to him
Can be
Used against
Him in
His case
And if
Somebody sends
Him something
Pretending to
Be
You know
Now I'm
Just giving
Ideas on
The air
Which is not
Good either
You know
What I mean
No I'm
Sorry Lucky
That has to
Be
You have to
Filter through
That stuff
Too
Alright well
I will
Filter through
It with
With dear
Care
You know
Like I said
I don't
Want to
Invade his
Privacy or
Anything
But
Right
But if
Somebody
All it takes
Is one
Dick
To send
Something
That says
Hey
I left
That money
You asked
For under
The tree
Or you know
Something
And get
Him any
Deeper
When he
Goes to
Court
That mail
Is going
To come
Up
While he
Was incarcerated
He got
An email
He got
A message
That says
Yada yada yada
So I think
That's not
Good
I think
Just
I think
The email
Thing is best
And if you
Do send
Something to
The PO box
Just understand
It's going
To be
Checked
Yeah
Okay
I think
That's the
Best thing
So
Yeah
That's
Is that
Pretty much
It
Yeah
We said
No magazines
No like
Gifts or
Items or
Anything
Right
Yeah
Definitely
You know
Stickers and
Stuff like
That
I don't
Even
Think
You
Could
Send
That
And
Do
I remember
Reading
That it
Can't
Even
Be
Stapled
Does
It
Have
To
Be
Single
Sheets
Of
Paper
Yes
That
Is
Correct
He
Cannot
Receive
Staples
Stapled
Items
Yeah
It
All
Has
To
Be
Single
Sheets
Of
Paper
I
Don't
Even
Think
You
Could
Tape
It
Together
Right
Front
And
Back
And
Just
You
Can't
Staple
It
Just
Fold
It
Or
Try
To
Keep
It
To
One
Or
Two
Pages
Or
Whatever
But
They're
Very
Tight
They're
Very
Tight
Yeah
I
Mean
And
I
Guess
People
Really
Shouldn't
Be
Too
Concerned
About
What
They'll
Be
Else
Is
Going
To
Read
It
Before
It
Gets
To
Him
Anyway
Yeah
Exactly
What I'm
Saying
In
Normal
Cases
I
Would
Say
Of
Course
You
Never
Read
You
Know
Something
That's
Being
Forwarded
But
I
Think
In
This
Case
I
Think
There's
No
Choice
And
By
Letting
Them
Know
Up
Front
We're
Not
Really
Violating
Anybody's
Privacy
Or
Trust
Because
We're
Announcing
It
Ahead
Of
Time
Yeah
So
All right
Well
Why don't
You
Take
An
Email
Here
All right
Let's
See
Here
Next
Email
Is
From
Coder
Right
Coder
Yes
Coder
365
And
He
Writes
In
And
Says
Hey
Stink
Just
Wanted
To
Mention
That
At
My
Local
Library
The
Archives
Page
Is
Filtered
Due
To
Excessive
Language
Weight
Limit
Exceeded
I
Find
This
Extremely
Funny
And
I
Can
Still
Listen
To
The
Shows
By
Typing
In
The
URL
Into
The
Media
Player
And
Pressing
Enter
I
Just
Have
To
Go
Without
The
Show
Notes
That's
Not
A
Problem
Though
Thanks
For
Giving
Me
A
Laugh
On
Many
Boring
Times
In
The
Library
And
Keep
Up
The
Good
Work
Well
This
Episode
Language
Wait
You
Know
I'm
Not
Sure
Does
It
Somehow
Download
The
Audio
Files
First
No
Certainly
It
Can
If
It
Did
This
One
Would
Never
Meet
Any
Filter
I
Mean
Today's
Episode
Would
Just
Send
It
Off
The
Charts
Yeah
That's
What
I
Was
Just
Going
To
Suggest
No
I'm
Just
Pulling
Your
Chain
There
Oh
Okay
Yeah
No
I
I'm
Trying
To
Think
I
Don't
Even
Think
We
Really
Have
Bad
Words
In
The
Show
Notes
Exactly
I
Think
Even
Those
We
Change
But
When I'm
Guessing
And this
Is
Totally
A
Guess
At
The
Top
Of
The
Page
It
Does
Have
A
Disclaimer
That
Says
Warning
Excessive
Language
Used
In
The
Shows
Lots
Of
Profanity
You
Know
Not
Safe
For
Work
There's
A
Warning
Or
Disclaimer
And
Maybe
Their
Filter
Sees
The
Disclaimer
And
Therefore
Blocks
The
Page
Maybe
It
Doesn't
Actually
See
Any
Bad
Words
Anywhere
Yeah
Either
That
Or
Maybe
I
Just
Have
A
Reputation
One
Of
The
Two
Yeah
So
Anyway
Like you
Said
You
Just
Bypass
You
Go
Straight
To
The
MP3
File
Because
It
Can't
It
Doesn't
Know
How
To
Block
The
MP3
It's
Only
Blocking
The
Particular
Page
So
Okay
Just
Go
Straight
To
The
MP3
Luckily
We
Use
A
Standard
Naming
Convention
And
It's
Easy
To
Find
And
The
Directory
Is
Open
Where
Our
Archives
Were
So
Yeah
Makes
It
Makes
It
Pretty
Easy
To
Still
Get
Through
All
That
Kind
Of
Stuff
And
Speaking
Of
Which
Now
Won't
Go
Off
On
A
Big
Tangent
But
I'll
Drop
A
Little
Hint
That
The
Hacking
101
Article
From
The
Next
Issue
Bin
Rev
Is
About
The
Very
Topic
Standards
And
Naming
Conventions
And
The
Good
The
Bad
And
The
Ugly
If
You
Will
So
Look
Ahead
For
That
Soon
I
Don't
Know
How
Soon
Don't
Email
Me
I'm
Doing
My
Best
Anyway
Next
Email
Comes
From
Knock
Noctmeister
Is that
Right
That's
Right
Yeah
That's
How
I
Would
Have
Said
German
Or
Something
Knock
Meister
Knock
Meister
Knock
Meister
Dear
Stank
Dog
Oh
Wait
That
Was
French
How
Did
I
Get
A
French
Accent
Out
Of
Germany
That's
Fuck
Up
Dear
Stank
Dog
And
Company
As
To
The
Scene
Quote
The
Scene
Which
Is
We
Talked
About
The
Scene
On
Last
Episode
Or
The
One
Before
That
Which
Is
A
Show
About
Where's
Groups
And
Things
Like
That
Well
Anyway
Go
Back
And
Listen
To
The
Previous
Shows
About
That
As
To
The
Scene
Shortly
After
Listening
To
Episode
89
Well
There
You
Go
I
Went
Searching
For
The
Source
Of
The
Sony
Propaganda
Claims
The
Only
Enlightening
Result
Was
A
Slash
Dot
Article
In
The
Comments
Of
Which
Was
Only
Was
Not
Only
Mention
Of
An
Apparent
Former
Sony
PR
Person
Working
For
The
Production
Company
But
They
Also
Apparently
Drew
Connections
From
The
Main
Actor
To
Someone
He
Looked
Like
Who
Worked
With
The
Woman
In
Question
So
He
Looked
Like
Somebody
At
Sony
So
I
Guess
That's
Enough
I
Don't
Think
Get
Sony
Is
Doing
Either
Really
But
For
What
It's
Worth
It
Does
Seem
To
Be
Turning
Into
A
Cautionary
Tale
Sort
Of
Thing
What
With
The
Authorities
Closing
In
On
The
Group
And
All
And
All
The
Friends
And
Relatives
Introduced
Into
The
Segments
Who
Can
Be
Hurt
By
Their
Impending
Arrests
It's
Almost
Entertaining
In
And
Of
Itself
To
Think
Of
If
You
Think
Up
Over
Old
Propaganda
Film
Black
And
White
Anyway
And
Speaking
Of
Funnier
You
Might
Check
Out
Welcome
To
Tuss
Scene
Dot
Com
A
Parody
Of
The
Scene
In
This
One
The
Group
Doesn't
Get
Beat
Because
Their
Main
Character
Sells
Their
Movies
To
Asian
Bootleggers
They
Get
Beat
Because
They
Seem
To
Be
A
Bunch
Of
Congenital
Screw
Ups
It
Even
Makes
A
Relative
Noob
Like
Me
Feel
Good
And
Clarify
The
Difference
There's
Welcome
To
The
Scene
Which
Is
The
Original
Film
That
Everybody
Thinks
Is
Propaganda
Which
I
Like
I
Think
It's
Cool
There's
I
Have
No
I'm
99.5%
Sure
That
It's
Not
A
Propaganda
Film
I
Mean
They're
Distributing
It
Via
Peer
To
Peer
So
They
Find
That
Odd
If
It
Was
Sony
Doing
It
I
Don't
Think
They'd
Promoting
It
By
Using
Kazaa
And
E-Donkey
And
All
These
Other
Downloads
Links
And
Stuff
Like
That
So
If
They
Were
It
Would
Be
Pretty
Smart
And
Funny
It
Would
Be
It
Would
Be
Pretty
Cool
They
Would
They
Got
Me
Sucked
In
If
That
Is
If
It
Does
Turn
Out
To
Be
True
However
And
The
Plot
Of
It
Yeah
It's
Kind
Like
He
Says
A
Cautionary
Tale
Where
They're
Closing
In
And
Stuff
Like
That
But
Let's
See
Where
It
Goes
You
Know
The
Other
Thing
Is
What
Else
Could
They
Have
Done
I
Mean
They
Could
Have
Made
It
The
Happy
Go
Lucky
Documentary
And
Everybody
Lives
Happily
Ever
After
No
I
Like
The
Angle
That
They're
Taking
Of
Course
They're
Going to
Close
In
Because
That's
Drama
That's
Good
Writing
And
Part
Of
Story
So
I
Don't
Know
I
Guess
You
Know
What
Let's
Wait
And
Play
It
Out
See
How
It
Goes
I
Mean
It
Does
Make
You
Want
To
Watch
It
Is
It's
Strangely
Boring
But
Strangely
Addictive
I
Mean
Basically
You're
It
Sounds
Like
Default
Radio
That's
A
Good
One
The
Whole
Thing
Is
Just
The
You
See
His
Computer
Screen
And
His
Chat
Windows
Popping
Up
And
In
The
Corner
That
He
Has
Like
A
It's
A
Video
Camera
Of
Him
So
There's
Not
Much
Acting
Or
Speaking
Or
Too
Much
Like
That
It's
Mostly
Just
Reading
His
Chat
Conversations
And
Some
Of
The
Things
He
Does
On
The
Computer
Screen
So
It's
Kind
Of
Slow
As
Far
As
That
Goes
But
In
A
Weird
Way
It
Does
Keep
You
Wanting
To
What
Happens
Next
And
They
Do
A
Good
Job
Of
Ending
It
On
A
Question
Mark
And
It's
Pretty
Good
Now
The
Other
One
That
He
Mentioned
Is
Welcome
To
Tussine
Which
Basically
Is
The
Common
Misspelling
Of
The
Instead
Of
T-H-E
It's
T-E-H
Welcome
To
T-E-H
Scene
Dot
Com
And
That
Is
A
Parody
Of
The
Original
The
First
One
Yeah
They
Probably
Think
That
It's
The
First
One
Was
A
Propaganda
Film
I
Think
They
Even
Say
That
On
Their
Site
But
You
Know
It
Doesn't
Really
Matter
What
The
Motivation
Was
It's
A
Parody
And
It
Is
Pretty
Funny
I
Like
It
They're
Having
Fun
With
It
Does
Have
Some
Pretty
Funny
Jokes
In
It
So
I
Think
That's
Cool
To
Definitely
Go
Check
Both
Of
Let It
Fully
Supplant
Google
But
It
Really
Doesn't
Suck
Ass
Anymore
As
To
Episode
90
And
Real
Alternative
It
Calls
The
Player
Quote
Media
Player
Classic
End
Quote
And
It
Coexists
Just
Fine
With
The
Latest
Version
As
It
Defaults
To
A
Different
Directory
Program
File
Slash
Real
Alternative
NXP
The
Only
Gripe
I
Have
Is
That
It
Doesn't
Yet
Integrate
Smoothly
With
Firefox
But
Hopefully
They
Will
Fix
This
Soon
And
As
Sodas
Go
I
Really
Miss
Surge
That
Green
Colored
Citrus
Thing
Coca-Cola
Produced
Several
Years
Ago
Thanks
And
Keep
It
Up
You
Guys
Talked
About
Soda
On
Episode
And
This
Is
The
Weird
Thing
Lucky
It
Was
Like
It
Was
A
Weird
Tangent
That
Just
Came
Up
You
Know
How
Sometimes
I
Joke
About
How
I
It
Is
Like
Snowball
I
Have
No
Clue
Why
Anybody
Cares
But
Apparently
People
Find
It
Interesting
What
I
Drink
I
Don't
Or
What
We
All
Drink
As
Hackers
Or
Whatever
I
Mean
I
Remember
Surge
I
Mean
It
Was
You
Know
My
Life
Moved
On
After
It
Disappeared
But
Yeah
I
Remember
It
Was
Okay
I
Liked
It
I
Got
Off
This
Grape
Soda
Kick
I
Back
Want
To
Go
Into
Soda
A
Little
Bit
Go
For
It
You
Know
There
Was
A
Isn't
There
That
Store
Beverages
And
More
Which
They
Stock
Like
All
The
Old
Sodas
And
Like
All
Kinds
Of
Wines
And
Imported
Stuff
I
Don't
Know
I
Know
There
Is
A
Store
In
Chino
Hills
Goes
By
Beverages
And
More
I
Not
Sure
If
They
Have
All
The
Old
Sodas
But
Yeah
They
Picked
Me
Off
Because
I
Got
A
Little
Argument
With
Them
About
My
Credit
Card
You
Get
Into
An
Argument
With
Everybody
About
Your
Credit
Card
Yeah
I
Know
This
Is
The
Guy
Who
Tries
To
Go
Into
A
Store
And
Buy
Something
With
His
Credit
Card
Number
From
Memory
He
Won't
Show
Them
The
Card
He
Is
Like
I
Have
It
Memorized
And
I
Have
The
Little
Three
Digit
Proof
Code
Memorized
And
Then
He
Gets
Mad
When
They
Won't
Accept
That
Well
Actually
I
Mean
That's
What
Makes
You
The
Diabolical
Genius
I
Guess
Well
Yeah
I
Mean
I
Believe
When
Credit
Cards
First
Came
Out
They
Gave
You
Like
A
Five
Digit
Account
Number
Or
Something
And
You
Could
Just
Go
In
There
And
Give
Them
Your
Account
Number
Verbally
And
Like
That's
The
Whole
Thing
Is
Like
If
You
Caught
In
A
Jam
And
You
Don't
Got
Your
Wallet
On
You
But
You
Know
Your
Credit
Card
Number
You're
Supposed
To
The
Merchant
Is
Supposed
To
Allow
You
To
Buy
Things
Since
You
Know
The
Account
Number
It's
Your
Account
And
If
You
Have
Identification
I
Mean
That
Should
Surmise
Yeah
But
You're
Usually
Not
Willing
To
Show
Your
Identification
Says
If
The
Back
Of
The
Card
Is
Signed
They
Cannot
Require
Identification
They're
Supposed
To
Compare
The
Signatures
From
The
Credit
Card
And
When
You
Sign
It
Yeah
Well
You
Need
To
Write
A
Book
On
All
This
Stuff
Also
I
Was
Thinking
About
Getting
Into
A
Fight
With
One
Of
The
Local
Clubs
Up
Here
Because
This
Girl
Was
Trying
To
Order
Something
With
A
Credit
Card
And
They
Were
Like
Well
Do
You
Want
To
Open
Up
A
Tab
And
She
All
No
I'll
Just
Come
Back
And
Purchase
Again
With
My
Card
Every
Time
If
I
Want
A
New
Drink
Or
Not
I
Don't
Want
To
Open
Up
A
Tab
And
Leave
It
Open
You
Know
The
Guys
All
Well
There's
A
Ten
Dollar
Minimum
Which
Is
Also
A
Violation
Of
Visa
Merchant
Agreement
So
I
Was
Like
Big
Deal
Out
Of
The
Agreement
I
Just
Tell
To
Fuck
Off
And
I
Go
To
Another
Bar
Well
Yeah
They
Shouldn't
Be
Imposing
That
At
All
If
They're
Going
To
Accept
Visa
Customers
Then
They
Need
To
Treat
Their
Visa
Customers
The
Way
Every
Other
Merchant
Does
Of
Course
Every
Other
Merchant
Does
The
Same
Thing
Violating
The
Agreement
But
They're
Not
Supposed
To
Right
Well
I
Yeah
That
Sucks
That
Does
Suck
Yeah
Alright
Let's
See
Next
Email
Here
Is
From
Sen
S-E-N
Who
Says
Hey
Stank
Just
Want
To
Say
I
Love
The
Show
And
Plan
On
Getting
The
Magazine
Soon
What's
Up
With
The
Three
Pack
For
The
Magazine
Is
That
The
Only
Way
To
Buy
Them
Or
Can
You
Get
Them
Separate
Well
Sen
Of
Course
You
One
That
Looks
Like
You
Want
To
Try
It
Or
Buy
It
Or
Whatever
And
At
The
Bottom
Of
Each
One
Of
Those
Pages
There
Is
A
Link
To
Buy
The
Three
Pack
Or
To
Buy
That
Individual
Issue
So
You
Can
Shipping
On
From
Now
On
We're
Not
Changing
The
Price
Of
The
Magazine
And
Don't
Foresee
That
Happening
Anytime
Soon
This
Should
Alleviate
Any
Financial
Pressures
Back
Off
Of
Me
Personally
Luckily
So
If
You
Order
A
Single
One
It's
Going
To
Hurt
You
More
On
Shipping
It's
Like
A
Buck
Fifty
Shipping
For
One
Issue
Whereas
If
You
Buy
The
Three
Pack
I
Think
It's
Two
Fifty
I
Think
That's
Right
I'd
Have
To
Check
It
Off
Hand
PayPal
Calculates
All
That
For
So
Yeah
If
You
Do
Want
To
Order
One
Individually
And
Try
It
See
If
You
Like
It
Or
Whatever
Absolutely
Just
Go
To
The
Page
For
That
Individual
Issue
And
You
Should
See
A
Link
At
The
Bottom
Also
Since
We're
Talking
About
This
Thank
You
For
The
Segway
Here
I
Am
Adding
By
Binary
Revolution
T-Shirt
I
Mention
I
Had
Them
Printed
Up
And
Taken
To
Inner
Zone
And
I
Do
Have
Some
Left
So
We're
Going
To
Put
Them
Up
On
The
Website
We
Only
Have
One
Size
Unfortunately
Extra
Large
Is
The
Only
Size
We
Could
Get
Done
That's
The
Most
Universal
And
Fit
Majority
Of
People
And
To
Do
Them
In
Different
Sizes
Would
Have
Cost
Us
A
More
Because
It
Was
Easier
For
Us
To
Do
Right
Now
On
This
First
One
Now
When
These
Run
Out
We
Do
Another
Batch
We'll
Try
To
Have
Them
In
Different
Sizes
As
Well
I
Don't
Know
How
Long
That
Will
Be
Of
Course
And
Since
We
Do
Have
The
T-Shirt
We're
Also
Going
To
Put
Together
Like
An
Introduction
Pack
For
New
People
New
Readers
A
Pack
With
All
Three
Of
Magazines
And
The
T-Shirt
For
25
Bucks
Put
The
T-Shirt
Three
Issues
Of
The
Magazine
25
Bucks
Plus
Whatever
The
Shipping
Is
Which
Is
Maybe
Five
Bucks
Shipping
On
Top
Of
That
Or
Something
So
For
25
Bucks
You
Can
Get
Caught
Up
With
Everything
That
We
Have
Available
As
Of
Now
And
Any
Orders
Of
A
T-Shirt
We're
Going
To
Send
You
Or
The
Intro
Pack
Out
At
Conferences
And
Things
Like
That
And
If
You
Order
One
Of
These
Packs
Or
If
You
Order
A
T-Shirt
Because
I
Know
A
Lot
Of
People
Already
Have
The
Magazines
Which
We
Appreciate
We
Will
Send
You
The
Sticker
So
Order
The
Shirt
Or
Order
The
Package
Or
Whatever
And
We'll
Give
You
A
Bin
Rev
Sticker
And
A few
Others
We
Have
Some
Other
Stickers
And
Some
Cards
That
Will
Slip
In
There
As
Well
Some
Other
Good
Bonus
So
You
Can
Put
It
On
Your
Laptop
Your
Car
Your
Penis
Whatever
Works
For
You
Whatever
You
Feel
Like
Doing
With
It
Just
Oh
My
God
You
You're
Such
A
Dirty
Don't
Send
Us
Pictures
Of
The
Last
One
There
In
That
List
Although
Duel
Had
Some
People
Send
In
Pictures
Of
Unique
Uses
Of
The
RFA
We'll
Accept
Those
If
It's
The
Female
Gender
Then
It's
All
Good
Exactly
And
You
Have
To
Have
Been
Born
Of
The
Female
Gender
Not
Surgically
Altered
And
Actually
All
The
Orders
I'm
Sending
Out
Now
I
Have
Some
Other
Goodies
Some
Other
Stickers
Some
Inner
Zone
Stuff
That
I'm
Putting
In
All
Of
The
Orders
Right
Now
So
All
Of
This
Stuff
All
The
Stickers
Are
While
Supplies
Last
When I
Run
Out
Of
Shirts
I
Don't
Know
What
My
Financial
Situation
Will
Be
To
Get
More
Done
So
If
You
Want
It
Order
It
Now
I
Will
Try
To
Get
More
Printed
If
The
Demand
Is
There
But
Yeah
While
Supplies
Last
I'll
Throw
Some
Goodies
Some
Extra
Stuff
In
The
Orders
So
Order
Soon
And
You
Will
Get
The
Good
Stuff
And
Then
You
Can
Taunt
Your
Friends
Because
You
Got
The
Leap
Bin
Rev
Sticker
On
Your
Car
And
They
Don't
Yep
All
Right
Let's
See
We
Got
To
Start
Getting
Through
Some
Emails
Here
Next
Email
Is
From
Max
Drive
Max
Drive
Says
Hi
I've
Been
Running
A
Leaf
Node
Based
NNTP
Server
For
A
While
Now
But
Never
Really
Wondered
About
The
Spam
Drop
Off
Till
Episode
74
Wow
He's
Catching
Up
On
Some
Older
Episodes
It
Seems
Like
Eternal
September
Might
Be
Winding
Down
And
Hopefully
A
Good
Chunk
Of
The
Spam
That
Has
Been
Clogging
The
System
From
AOL
Please
Note
Beginning
Early
2005
AOL
Will
No
Longer
Be
Providing
Direct
Access
To
News
Groups
We
Apologize
For
Any
Inconvenience
And
He
Gives
Me
A
Link
To
That
Story
Which
We'll
Put
In
The
Show
Notes
He
Says
Wikipedia
Has
Quite
A
Bit
Of
News
On
The
Subject
Professionally
Written
And
Non-Biased
For
The
Most
Part
Good
Reading
All
In
All
You
Know
We
Might
Talk
We
Might
Make
That
A
Subject
Of
A
Future
Show
To
Interrupt
Wikipedia
There
Have
Been
Accusations
Of
Biased
And
Stuff
Against
Them
And
I
Don't
Know
If
They
Are
Unfounded
Or
Not
So
I
Don't
Want
To
Talk
About
It
Now
But
We
Might
Have
To
Go
Into
That
On
A
Future
Show
Do
A
Little
Research
On
That
Because
I
Know
Some
People
Have
Branched
Off
And
Started
Making
Others
Because
It
Is
An
Open
Source
Thing
I
Think
People
Have
Branched
Off
And
Taken
Most
Or
All
Of
The
Content
And
Trying
To
Make
A
Similar
One
And
Anyway
We'll
Go
Into
That
Another
Time
Let's
See
Back
To
Max
Drive
Email
Here
He
Says
My
Opinion
Is
Somewhat
Mixed
I
Won't
Mix
The
Extra
Spam
Trolls
In
Flaming
Well
Maybe
A
Little
But
With
Probably
Less
Than
1%
Of
The
Total
NNTP
Servers
In
The
World
Being
Truly
Free
A
Lot
Of
Good
Stuff
Is
Going
To
Disappear
With
It
Maybe
It's
My
Hacker
Nature
But
It
Somehow
Seems
Wrong
To
Suddenly
Cut
Off
The
Flow
Of
Data
Especially
When
The
Service
Has
Been
Running
For
Such
A
Long
Time
Just
My
Opinion
On
It
Good
Show
Guys
Keep
It
Up
Yeah
I
Definitely
Agree
With
That
Email
I
Mean
That's
Like
Your
ISP
Telling
You
Yeah
So
We
Just
Got
The
Internet
Too
And
You
Are
No
Longer
Going
To
Be
Able
To
Access
The
Internet
Shutting
It
What
I
Know
What
Internet
Too
Is
I
Work
On
It
Quite
A
Bit
But
What
Is
That
Nobody
Is
Going
To
Shut
Off
The
Internet
Well
That's
Well
I
Mean
That's
What
I'm
Saying
They're
Saying
They're
Shutting
Off
News
Groups
Right
Well
The
AOL
Is
Probably
Doing
It
Because
They
Probably
Don't
Want
To
Support
It
Their
Users
Probably
Don't
Understand
It
AOL
Is
Just
AOL
I
Don't
Try
To
Understand
Any
Decisions
They
Ever
Make
Well
I
Don't
Understand
If
AOL
Cannot
Understand
Basic
News
Groups
How
Are
They
Going
To
Come
Out
With
Voice
Over
IP
Is
AOL
Getting
Into
The
Voice
Over
IP
Market
Yes
They
Are
That
Was
A
News
Story
I
Think
It's
On
In
The
Forums
Under
Phone
Freaking
Well
They're
Doomed
They
The
Same
Thing
They
Tried
To
Get
Into
AOL
For
Broadband
And
What
Did
End
Up
Canceling
It
All
And
Selling
It
Back
Out
Or
Something
Didn't
They
I
Have
No
Idea
Whatever
Happened
With
AOL
For
Broadband
AOL
Is
Suck
So
What
More
Is
There
To
Say
About
That
I
Mean
AOL
Is
Suck
And
You
Know
What
And
Another
Thing
Is
And
I
Think
People
Have
Been
Sensing
My
Tone
Lately
About
Google
But
This
Is
Another
Scary
Thing
Is
That
Google
As
Far
As
I
Know
Anyway
Is
The
Only
Person
That
Has
To
Complete
Or
Semi
Complete
I
Guess
You
Should
Say
Backup
Of
Usenet
Has
Been
Around
For
A
Long
Time
I
Started
On
The
Internet
Using
Usenet
There
Was
No
World
Wide
Web
I
Told
This
Story
A
Long
Time
A
Long
Time
A
The
Archive
Net
Doesn't
Have
Usenet
It's
Only
Website
Through
It
I
Don't
Know
I
Really
Do
Not
Know
It's
Own
Protocol
So
You
Have
To
Have
Been
Keeping
It
I
Know
It
Used
To
Be
Oh
What
Was
The
Name
Deja
News
Was
The
Name
Of
The
Company
And
Google
Ended
Up
Buying
The
Database
From
Them
So
That's
The
Only
Complete
One
That
I
Ever
Knew
Of
Now
There
May
Be
More
What
About
Jason
Scott
I'm
Sure
He's
Got
A
Lot
Of
That
Stuff
Backed
Up
Well
No
He's
Only
Got
Those
Well
He's
Got
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
But
He's
Like
Got
Individual
Text
Files
That
Have
Been
Collected
From
Usenet
Over
The
Years
And
Of
Course
They're
Within
Certain
Topics
You
Don't
Think
He
Has
Some
Discs
Somewhere
With
Like
News
Groups
I
Know
Scott
That
He
Burned
Of
Like
Usenet
Stuff
Or
Yeah
But
I
Mean
Hard
Drive
512
Meg
Hard
Drives
Or
Something
You
Gotta
Realize
How
Enormous
Usenet
Is
Oh
Yeah
Jason
Scott
Is
It
Could
All
Be
Put
Back
Together
But
I
Mean
It
Would
Be
A
Huge
Undertaking
And
Yeah
I
Hopefully
Some
Government
Agency
Somewhere
Has
Been
Keeping
All
This
Stuff
Too
But
I
Don
Know
I
Mean
I
Jason
Scott
Is
A
Friend
And
No
Offense
To
Him
But
Just
Logistically
Speaking
Even
Everything
That
He's
Got
Saved
Is
You
Know
One
Percent
Less
Than
One
Fraction
Of
One
Percent
Of
All
Of
The
Usenet
Is
Out
There
And
You
Know
An
Immediate
You
Eliminate
The
Binaries
News
Groups
And
Stuff
Like
That
There's
No
Way
That
Anybody
Can
Have
An
Entire
Collection
Of
Everything
From
The
Binary
It's
Impossible
It's
Ridiculously
Impossible
So
When
You
Say
Usenet
You're
Only
Talking
About
A
Lot
Of
The
Talk
And
Discussion
Groups
And
Stuff
Like
That
So
I
Mean
There's
A
Lot
Of
You
Have
To
Set
Up
For
Some
Definitions
To
Talk
About
What's
There
And
What's
Not
There
So
If
Somebody
Knows
If
There's
Somebody
Out
If
There's
Some
Other
Site
Out
There
That
Has
A
Backup
Or
A
Large
Backup
Of
Usenet
I
Would
Like
To
Hear
About
It
And
The
Other
Thing
This
Guy
Mentioned
Is
I
Assumed
It's
A
Guy
Again
I
Always
Make
That
Assumption
Max
Drive
Says
That
There's
Not
Very
Many
Free
Usenet
Servers
Out
There
There's
Not
I
Mean
Your
Service
Provider
Will
Give
It
To
You
Sometimes
Some
Of
Them
Obviously
AOL
Is
Discontinuing
Theirs
And
It
May
Be
A
Matter
Of
Time
For
All
The
Other
Ones
Start
Doing
That
As
Well
And
It
May
Be
Dying
Out
Which
Is
The
Fear
Here
But
You
Know
If
Google
Ends
Up
Being
The
Only
One
That
Has
It
How
Long
Do
You
Think
Before
Their
Stockholders
Start
Saying
Charge
Money
For
It
Charge
For
It
Charge
For
It
We're
The
Only
Ones
That
Have
It
That
Is
Not
Good
So
I
Hope
Someone
Else
Does
Have
An
Archive
Of
It
Maybe
Somebody
Should
Send
A
Spider
And
Crawl
Google
And
Get
There
Yeah
Definitely
A
Good
Suggestion
There
Yeah
You
Need
A
Lot
Of
Disc
Space
I'm
Telling
You
That
Huge
All
Right
Anyway
Let's
See
Next
Email
Comes
From
I
Got
It
I
Got
It
Says
Hey Stank
And
Co-Host
I
Am
A
Frequent
Listener
Of
Your
Show
Though
I
Don't
Get
To
Hear
It
Live
Every
Week
I
Damn
Will
Make
Sure
To
Have
Your
Podcast
So
I
Can
Listen
On
My
Way
To
Work
You
Know
What
75%
Of
The
People
Do
The
Exact
Same
Thing
Although
I
Got
To
Tell
You
I
Well
Anyway
I
Talk
About
I
Give
That
Shouts
At
This
As
We
Know
Pwnage
P-W-N-A-G-E
Is
Actually
Meant
To
Be
Ownage
But
With
The
Characters
O
And
P
Being
So
Close
Together
On
A
Keyboard
Gamers
Make
Typos
So
I
Guess
They
Are
Just
Capitalizing
On
The
Typo
Well
Duh
Yeah
Jamaica
Does
Not
Offer
Much
Technology
Oriented
Shows
And
The
Ones
They
Do
Off
Are
Pumped
With
So
Much
Marketing
Advertising
It
Is
A
Turn
Off
To
Die
Hard
Geeks
The
Screensavers
Was
One
Of
The
Few
Tech
Shows
I
Look
Forward
To
For
Fun
Informative
And
Totally
Tech
Related
Stuff
Until
The
Merger
Then
It
Went
Got
Then
It
Starring
One
Or
None
Other
Than
Lucky
225
The
Diabolical
Genius
Himself
I'm
Going
To
Start
Announcing
You
From
Now
On
I
Am
Going
To
Refer
To
You
As
Lucky
225
The
Diabolical
Genius
Oh
God
I'm
Not
Sure
If
I'm
Comfortable
With
That
Title
But
Alright
I'm
Going
To
Change
Your
Title
In
The
Forums
Diabolical
Genius
Is
That
An
Upgrade
Or
Downgrade
For
Media
Whore
That's
An
Upgrade
Media
Whore
Is
Getting
Old
That's
Just
A
Joke
We
Tease
You
With
Anyway
Let's
See
Yeah
We
Have
Pwned
We
Have
Our
Own
Show
PWNED
Which
Is
Our
Big
Special
Video
Show
That
We
Did
And
Hopefully
Have
Some
More
Coming
Up
But
We
Pronounce
Pwned
P-O-W-N-E-D
It's
Spelled
P-W-N-E-D
Because
Of
The
Transposition
Of
The
Letters
Like
I
Said
I
Understand
That
But
We
Pronounce
It
Pwned
They
Spell
It
With
The
P
The
Same
Way
P-W-N-A-G-E
Pwnage
But
They
Pronounce
It
Ownage
Instead
Of
Pwnage
So
We
Pronounce
The
P
And
They
Don't
To
Me
It
Just
Sounds
Funnier
To
Say
Pwned
Because
You
Know
What
They
Me
To
Say
It's
Kind
Like
Saying
Fajir
You
Know
It's
Funnier
To
Say
It's
Funny
So
A-O
And
Big
Up
To
Jamaica
Mon
Represent
Alright
Let's
Burn
Through
Some
Email
Here
We're
Running
Out
Of
Show
Time
Man
How
The
Heck
Did
We
Get
Oh
Man
That's
What
Happens
When
You
Start
Talking
About
Drinks
And
Ranting
And
Ranting
About
Text
Messages
To
My
Cell
Phone
Alright
Deviant
Bastard
Says
Stank
Dog
Just
Wanted
To
Write
To
Say
I
Appreciate
What
For
The
Community
I
Have
Been
Out
Of
The
Scene
For
A
Few
Years
While
I
Was
In
The
Military
And
Listening
To
Bin
Rev
Was
Exactly
What
I
Needed
To
Get
Back
Into
The
Swing
Of
Things
That
Being
Said
I'm
A bit
Rusty
So
I
Was
Wondering
If
You
Could
Help
Fast
Track
My
Search
For
Some
Good
Web
Security
Guidelines
And
Their
Implementation
A
Buddy
Search
Through
The
Forums
And
Dock
Droppers
But
To
No
Avail
With
The
Intended
Demographic
I
Know
There's
Bound
To
Be
Some
Hopefully
Good
Natured
Foolish
Foolishness
Any
Help
You
Can
Provide
In
This
Regard
Will
Be
Very
Much
Appreciated
And
If
Possible
I'd
Like
To
Return
The
Favor
I
Know
Logan
Five's
Your
Boy
When
It
Comes
To
Graphics
Design
But
If
For
Some
Reason
He's
Not
Available
Or
If
He
Needs
Help
With
An
Absolutely
Huge
Project
Drop
Me
A
Line
And
I'll
Hook
You
Guys
Up
Once
Again
Thanks
For
The
Kick
Ass
Show
Deviant
Bastard
All
Right
DB
We're
Going
to
Call
You
I
Might
Take
You
Up
On
The
Graphics
Offer
I
Might
Do
That
So
You
Might
Not
Know
What
You're
Getting
Yourself
Into
So
Be
Careful
With
Those
But
We
Might
Have
To
Hook
Up
And
Talk
About
That
As
Far
As
Sites
Bringing
You
Up
To
Speed
And
Security
Guidelines
And
Such
There's
A
Lot
Of
Them
Out
There
So
It's
Really
Unfortunately
That's
Just
A
Really
Vague
Question
And
Since
You
E-mail
Us
You
Probably
Have
Already
Found
A
Lot
Obviously
There's
RootSecure.net
Which
Is
One
Of
Our
Sites
That
We
Frequently
Mentioned
Run
By
Nick
84
It's
A
Great
Site
For
Security
News
And
Information
Announces
A
Lot
Of
Exploits
And
Brings
Together
A
Lot
Of
Different
News
Feeds
So
You'll
Find
Out
About
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
There
And
Security
Focus
Dot
Com
Is
Always
A
Great
Site
You'll
Find
A
Lot
Of
Reputable
Writers
There
And
Diabolical
Geniuses
Writing
There
So
I
Mean
Those
Are
Two
You
Know
Staples
That
Most
People
Know
About
But
Really
I
Mean
You're
Running
Mambo
So
First
Of
All
I
Think
It
Goes
To
Check
The
Mambo
Forums
And
The
Mambo
Site
There's
Mombers
I
Think
M-A-M-B-E-R-S
There's
Gosh
There's
Several
Mambo
Has
A
Very
Big
Following
Of
People
And
Check
Those
Sites
Out
And
Any
Security
Holes
Will
Be
Announced
There
Usually
Soon
And
What
Is
It
At
Stake
That's
The
X
Force
Alerts
I
Mean
Really
I
Hate
To
Say
It
I
Know
This
Is
A
Terrible
Answer
But
Google
I
Mean
You
Just
Have
To
Google
And
See
There's
No
One
Site
I
At
Least
I
Can't
Think
Of
One
Lucky
Correct
Me
If
I'm
Wrong
But
I
Can't
Think
Of
One
Site
That
I
Can
Say
This
Is
Where
You
Always
Go
To
Keep
Up
To
Everything
No
Unless
You're
To
Today
And
I
And
I
And
I
And
I
Can
Save
We're
Running
Long
Time
Here
Okay
Our
Last
Email
This
Week
Comes
From
Praetorian
Who
Says
Thank
Just
Blah
The
End
No
Praetorian
Says
Thank
Just
Covered
The
Show
Love
It
Listen
To
It
Every
Week
On
My
iPod
Actually
Look
Forward
To
The
Weekly
Release
I
Like
Your
Viewpoint
And
You
Have
Sound
Educated
Opinions
All
Wrapped
Up
In
A
Good
Content
Well
After
The
Way
I
Started
This
Email
I
Might
Not
Sound
So
Educated
I
Have
Only
Heard
From
80
We
Have
Fun
On
The
Show
I
Only
Heard
From
80
On
Up
Downloading
Episode
One
And
Starting
From
The
Beginning
Great
Job
Please
Keep
It
Rolling
I
Was
Particularly
Interested
In
The
Data
Center
Discussion
I
Recently
Toured
A
Local
Data
Center
In
My
City
The
Setup
Was
Amazing
You
Had
To
Be
Visually
Recognized
At
The
Door
Just
To
Make
It
In
Then
A
Biometric
Hand
Scan
Which
Entered
You
Into
A
Man
Trap
Then
You
Could
Actually
Get
Into
The
Different
Parts
Of
The
Facility
Only
After
Another
Scan
The
Center
Had
Massive
Battery
Backups
Powered
By
Three
Massive
Generators
That
Were
Run
In
Pairs
While
The
Third
Idled
Then
They
Would
Rotate
So
Two
Were
Always
Running
Because
Of
The
Hurricane
Threat
Down
Here
In
The
South
They
Had
Arrangements
For
A
Tanker
That
Would
Back
Into
The
Facility
And
Keep
The
Generators
Fueled
I
Forgot
How
Long
The
Facility
Could
Maintain
Itself
But
It
Was
Ridiculous
Anyway
Just
Thought
I
Share
Keep
Up
The
Great
Content
Yeah
And
I
Don't
Know
About
You
Lucky
I
Don't
Know
If
You
Can
Give
Us
A
Story
On
This
But
We
Talked
About
This
Last
Week
That
If
Anybody
Has
Ever
Seen
Like
A
Nice
Big
High
Quality
Data
Center
Or
Even
A
Small
But
Yet
High
Quality
Data
Center
It's
A
Very
Impressive
Site
And
When
I
Get
To
A
Financial
Situation
Where
I
Can
Do
Design
And
Clean
And
I'm
Not
Going
To
Go
With
All
This
Biometric
Stuff
I
Don't
Think
I
Think
That's
A
Overkill
For
Me
But
I
Like
A
Nice
Organized
Computer
Room
I
Like
Having
Redundant
Back
Redundant
Power
Supplies
Things
Like
That
Backups
So
If
You've
Never
Been
To
One
Of
These
Before
It's
Definitely
Very
Impressive
Have
You
Been
Into
A
Nice
Data
Center
Before
No
I
Get
Tours
If
You
Call
Up
Like
Some
Local
Companies
And
Probably
Social
Engineer
Your
Way
Into
A
Tour
Of
The
Facility
Either
Go
With
The
Student
Looking
For
Information
Angle
Or
You're
Looking
To
Be
A
Customer
But
You
Want
To
Tour
Their
Facilities
First
And
See
That
They
Have
Blah
Or
Hell
Just
Call
And
Ask
Them
They
May
Offer
Tours
Sometimes
To
Show
The
Thing
Off
So
And
Here's
Another
A
Little
Social
Engineering
Trick
One
Day
We're
Going
To
Do
A
Show
All
Social
Engineering
Tricks
And
Stuff
Too
But
Here's
One
For
You
Can
Get
A
Job
At
These
Places
Get
A
Weekend
Operator
Job
Or
Third
Shift
Operator
Job
To
Get
Into
Some
Of
This
Stuff
And
Get
Access
To
It
Even
If
You
Quit
It
48
Hours
Later
Or
Something
Like
Whatever
Means
You
Want
To
Get
In
There
Can
Get
In
There
Call
On
A
Favor
From
Somebody
Meet
Somebody
That
Works
There
Whatever
It
Is
Definitely
An
Impressive
Site
To
See
And
There's
Some
Links
On
Our
Show
Notes
From
Last
Week
To
Some
Of
The
Sites
We
Talked
About
On
The
Show
Like
One
And
One
Which
Has
A
Phenomenal
Setup
Phenomenal
Setup
And
Lots
Of
Cool
I
Tell
And
I
Kind
Of
Want
To
Follow
Up
On
Something
From
Last
Week
As
Far
As
Our
Main
Stories
Go
And
My
Show
And
Tell
This
Week
Is
Fairly
Short
Because
The
Project
That
I've
Been
Working
On
Is
Taking
A
Lot
Longer
Than
I
Hoped
It
Would
I'm
Rebuilding
My
File
Server
I
Mentioned
On
The
Show
Before
How
I
Don't
Know
If
I
Made
A
Mist
Setting
USB
Hard
Drives
It
Was
A
Mess
So
I
Put
That
Box
Back
Together
I
Added
Some
Fans
In
It
Because
I
Was
Also
Concerned
About
The
Heat
In
There
With
Seven
Hard
Drives
Spinning
It
All
The
Time
Oh
My
God
Yeah
So
I
Added
Some
More
Fans
In
There
It's
Still
Probably
Not
Enough
And
I
Installed
Windows
Server
2003
On
It
Studying
For
The
MC
DBA
Certification
I
Purchased
A
Copy
A
Legal
Copy
And
I
Am
Practicing
On
This
Box
So
I
Just
Installed
It
Registered
It
Makes
You
Activate
It
So
Luckily
I
Did
Have
A
Legal
Copy
Which
Is
Cool
I
Don't
Know
What
Happens
How
That
Activation
I
Guess
There's
Probably
Cracks
And
Work
Rounds
I
Have
No
Idea
But
Install
It
And
It
Looks
Like
Unfortunately
The
Raid
Cards
That
I
Have
In
That
Box
Controlling
Those
Hard
Drives
The
Raid
Controllers
I
Don't
Think
They
Have
Drivers
For
Windows
Server
2003
So
I
May
Be
Screwed
After
All
So
I'm
Kind
Of
Bummed
About
That
So
I
Got
To
See
If
I
Can
Figure
Out
What
I
Can
Do
If
There's
Anything
I
Can
Do
I
Have
To
Buy
New
Controller
Cards
Or
I
Don't
Know
What
I
Going
To
Do
I
Have
No
Idea
Where
I'm
Going
With
This
So
That's
Going
To
Be
My
Next
My
Project
For
The
Next
Couple
Of
Weeks
It
Looks
Like
And
You
I
Think
For
Your
Show
Until
You
Said
Something
About
Your
Wang
What
Was
You
Were
Going
To
Talk
About
I
Was
Just
Joking
Around
I
Hope
You
Really
Did
Write
Down
Let
Me
Delete
That
Out
Of
The
Notes
Oh
Yeah
That's
Right
Net
Spend
Is
Now
Harvesting
Social
Security
Numbers
Who
Isn't
These
Days
Everybody
Is
Harvesting
Social
Security
Numbers
Yeah
Well
They're
Claiming
That
Federal
Law
Requires
Them
To
Collect
It
Now
I
Guess
Net
Spend
Accounts
Are
Considered
A
Bank
Account
Under
The
Patriot
Act
Which
I
Was
Under
The
Impression
That
They're
Just
Stored
Valued
Cards
I'm
Not
Sure
How
Legitimate
Their
Claims
Are
To
The
Note
That
Federal
Law
Requires
Them
To
Collect
This
Information
But
They
Just
Started
Collecting
It
I
Believe
April
1st
Which
Doug
Had
Called
Me
Up
And
Said
Dude
Lucky
I
Logged
Into
My
Net
Spend
Account
And
It's
Asking
For
My
Social
Security
Number
I'm
All
Oh
That's
A
Good
April
Fools
Joke
There
Doug
But
Sure
Enough
I
Have
Two
Net
Spend
Accounts
And
One
Of
Them
Luckily
The
One
That
I
Don't
Use
When
I
Logged
Into
It
Was
Asking
For
My
Social
Security
Number
And
I
Don't
Know
How
I
Never
Gave
My
Social
Security
Number
For
The
Other
One
But
There
Is
No
Notice
Asking
For
My
Real
Account
But
Yeah
They're
Definitely
Trying
To
Collect
It
From
Every
Net
Spend
User
Who
Does
Not
Have
One
And
It's
The
HTML
Page
Is
The
Same
For
Every
User
It
Says
The
Information
Must
Be
Collected
Before
April
15th
I
Don't
Know
If
That's
Or
What
Or
What
Or
They're
Going
To
Suspend
Your
Account
And
I
Don't
Know
How
That's
Going
To
Work
It
Doesn't
Say
Take
Your
Money
And
Run
I
Was
Going
To
Say
They're
Just
Going
To
Close
Up
And
Take
Your
Money
That's
Right
Well
The
Account
Is
Supposedly
FDIC
Insured
And
If
Federal
Law
Really
Does
Require
Them
To
Collect
This
Information
My
Question
Then
Is
Everyone
Who
You
Know
I've
Referred
To
Net
Spend
And
Has
This
Type
Of
Account
I'm
Wondering
If
They
Don't
Provide
That
Information
And
They
Close
Up
And
Take
Your
Money
It's
FDIC
Insured
Money
But
Can
You
Get
It
Without
Giving
Your
Social
Security
Number
To
Get
The
Money
Back
I
That's
A
Good
Question
I
Have
They
Have
To
Cut
You
A
Check
They
Have
To
They'll
Probably
Mass
Cut
Out
A
Bunch
Of
Checks
If
They
Go
Through
With
This
It
May
Just
Be
One
Of
Those
Things
They
Put
Up
And
Then
Like
I've
Worked
For
Companies
That
Have
Done
Something
Similar
Not
With
Social
But
I
Worked
For
A
Company
For
Example
That
What
Put
Up
A
Thing
Requiring
Everybody
To
Have
Direct
Deposit
Of
Their
Paychecks
And
I
Argued
With
Them
I
Said
There's
No
Way
You
Can't
Make
People
Have
Direct
Deposit
You
Can't
Make
People
Have
A
Bank
Account
Period
You
Know
You
Cannot
Force
Somebody
If
They
Don't
Want
To
Have
A
Bank
Account
If
They
Don't
Believe
In
Banks
There
Are
Some
Places
That
Have
Some
Religious
Beliefs
That
Do
Not
Believe
In
Using
A
Bank
You
Cannot
Force
Everybody
To
It
By
Such
And
Such
A
Deadline
Well
The
Deadlight
Came
And
Went
Most
People
Did
Do
It
Because
They
Didn't
Know
Any
Better
They
Thought
Oh
Well
I've
Got
To
Do
It
I've
Got
To
Do
It
They
Just
Did
It
However
A few
People
Did
Not
When
It
Passed
They
Didn't
Punish
Some
They
Didn't
Go
Through
With
For
To
Do
It
Because
They
Didn't
Have
To
Idle
Threat
And
It
Worked
99%
Of
The
People
Went
Switched
Over
To
Direct
Deposit
So
It
May
Be
Just
A
Threat
And
You
Know
What
On
The
16th
Oh
Well
We
Got
Most
Of
The
People
To
Do
It
And
The
Didn't
Maybe
They
Will
Not
Make
You
Do
It
After
All
Is
What
I'm
Getting
At
Hopefully
Well
I
Don't
Know
What
To
Tell
You
About
That
I
Don't
Know
About
Florida
Law
But
I
Know
In
California
That
Would
Not
Fly
You
Can't
Tell
Somebody
They
They're
Required
To
Have
Direct
Deposit
You're
Going
To
Fire
This
Person
If
They
Don't
Sign
Up
For
A
Bank
Account
Right
Yeah
They
There
Is
It
Is
Also
Against
Florida
Law
And
I
Pointed
That
Out
And
I
Gave
Them
The
Law
Now
See
The
Problem
With
This
They
Don't
Want
You
To
Do
That
So
I
Put
Myself
In
A
Bad
Situation
But
I
Did
I
Printed
Off
The
Law
And
Presented
It
To
Them
And
Said
Listen
This
Is
The
Law
You
Cannot
Make
People
Do
It
And
I
Even
I
How
Employers
Take
That
Stance
That
Oh
This
Is
Our
Peon
Employee
What
Does
He
Know
How
Can
He
Be
Using
The
Law
Against
Us
It
Is
Just
Like
That
Whole
Credit
Card
ID
Issue
That
I
Was
Talking
About
If
I
Worked
At
Walmart
And
I
Was
Processing
Credit
Cards
All
Day
I
Would
Refuse
To
Ask
People
For
Their
Photo
ID
If
The
Back
Of
The
Card
Was
Signed
Because
It
Is
Against
The
Merchant
Agreement
And
I
Wouldn't
Want
To
Be
Punished
For
Something
That
My
Company
Is
Making
Me
Do
Right
Would
Have
Been
Easiest
On
Me
I
Should
Have
Gone
Along
With
It
To
Make
My
Job
Easier
So
Ironically
I
Was
The
One
That
Was
Going
To
Program
It
Yet
I
Was
The
One
Defending
Not
Making
Them
Do
It
So
Well
That
That's
Exactly
What
I'm
Saying
Too
Is
You
Now
Become
A
Threat
To
If
Somebody
There
Decides
They
Don't
Want
A
Bank
Account
And
They
Sue
The
Anymore
So
Alright
Well
Anyway
Are There
Any
Alternatives
Then
To
Net
Spend
Is
Doing
This
Do
Any
Other
Alternatives
To
Suggest
To
People
The
Only
Other
Alternative
I
Can
Suggest
Right
Now
Would
Be
Paypal
And
Using
Your
Credit
Card
To
Sign
Up
But
I
Think
That
Still
Leaves
You
In
An
Unverified
Status
I
Not
Sure
If
Paypal
Will
Ever
Allow
You
Yeah
It's
Been
A
Long
Time
Since
I
Set
Mine
Up
I
Don't
Remember
What
I
Had
To
Do
How
Are
You
Going
To
Get
Your
Money
Into
Paypal
Is
Another
Problem
Too
Well
Problem
I
Mean
Technically
I
Guess
You
Could
Transfer
Money
From
Your
Credit
Card
And
Then
Go
Pay
It
Off
Or
Something
But
That's
Probably
Considered
Money
Laundering
Or
Something
Take
Your
Money
Off
Your
Net
Spend
Account
And
Send
It
Over
To
Paypal
Yeah
Right
All
Right
Anyway
Let's
Jump
Into
The
Main
Topic
For
This
Week
And
It's
Actually
An
Extension
A
Follow
Up
Of
Last
Week
Show
I
Didn't
Quite
Get
To
Finish
But
Last
Week
Show
With
Slip
Mode
We
Talked
About
And
Let
Me
Just
Rehash
A
Couple
Of
Little
Things
We
Talked
About
Wireless
Security
Or
Lack
Thereof
Specifically
WEP
Encryption
And
How
It
Is
Some
Of
The
Cracking
Techniques
And
Some
Other
Newer
Forms
Of
Attack
On
WEP
And
Specifically
What
We
Talked
About
Last
Week
Is
Slip
Mode
Talked
About
An
Application
Called
Air
Pone
And
Air
Pone
Uses
Some
Similar
Techniques
As
To
What
I'm
Going
To
Talk
About
Tonight
But
A
Couple
Of
The
Terms
That
You
Need
To
Be
Familiar
With
One
Packet
Injection
Now
You
Know
When
You're
Sitting
In
Front
Of
Your
Computer
And
You're
Surfing
The
Internet
The
Page
Has
To
Be
Transported
Through
The
Phone
Line
Somehow
And
That's
Done
In
The
Form
Of
Packets
I
Don't
Want
To
Be
Talking
Down
To
Anybody
I'm
Just
Trying
To
Make
Sure
We're
All
Brought
Up
To
Speed
Well
Those
Packets
Are
Certain
Set
Size
And
I
Even
Mention
This
Especially
In
Reference
To
The
CEH
Exam
You
Have
To
Know
Intimately
The
Breakdown
Of
A
TCP
Packet
And
Several
Other
Types
Of
Packets
Your
TCP
Packet
Has
A
Header
Some
Header
Information
Footer
Etc
And
A
Payload
Or
A
Text
Information
That
Has
Parts
Of
Whatever
It
Is
That
You're
Sending
Whether
It
Be
A
Web
Page
FTP
Whatever
The
Your
File
Of
Whatever
That
Size
Happens
To
Be
That's
How
Stuff
Gets
Sent
Back
And
Forth
Through
The
Global
Interweb
As
It
Were
Using
TCP
Anyway
And
It's
Pretty
Much
The
Same
For
Others
It's
Just
The
Packets
Are
Different
Formats
And
Different
Specs
I
Guess
Anyway
So
That
Being
Said
A
Man
In
The
Middle
Attack
Is
One
Where
Somehow
You
Get
In
Between
Two
People
That
Are
Communicating
On
The
Internet
And
Inject
And
It
Goes
Along
With
Packet
Injection
Because
You
Can
Then
If
You're
The
Man
In
The
Middle
Inject
Extra
Packets
In
Between
Those
Two
People
Back
And
Forth
Or
One
Way
Or
Whatever
And
That's
The
Way
Airponed
Work
Airponed
Was
The
Thing
And
You
Probably
Remember
This
Lucky
At
Def
Con
Where
People
Were
Injecting
The
Goatsy
Guy
The
Picture
JPEG
That
There
Was
An
Image
It
Replaced
It
With
The
Goatsy
Guy
Yeah
Packet
Injection
Also
Right
That's
Just
Simple
Packet
Inject
Well
Not
Simple
That's
Just
Basic
Packet
Injection
Technique
And
That's
Gone
A
Step
Further
Now
As
It
Regards
To
WEP
Encryption
Well
WEP
Cracking
Is
Again
Something
That
Many
Of
Our
Listeners
Are
Already
Know
And
Already
Are
Familiar
With
WEP
Is
Fundamentally
Flawed
There
Is
A
Weakness
In
WEP
Encryption
Whereas
One
In
Every
So
Many
Packets
And
I
Don't
Know
What
It
Is
Off
Hand
Unfortunately
One
In
Every
So
Many
Packets
Will
Be
Encrypted
With
A
Weak
Algorithm
A
Low
End
Number
If
You
Want
To
Think
Of
It
Like
That
It
Creates
An
Algorithm
Or
It
Creates
A
Key
That
Is
Weaker
Than
All
Of
The
Others
And
Tools
Like
Air
Snored
And
Things
Like
This
Will
Sniff
These
Packets
Out
And
Save
Them
And
Calls
Them
What
I
Think
The
Term
That
They
Uses
Is
Interesting
Packets
Meaning
Those
That
Are
Potentially
Weak
So
The
More
Of
These
Packets
All
You
Really
Need
Theoretically
Is
One
I
Guess
But
The
More
Of
These
Packets
That
You
Collect
And
Save
So
If
You
Packets
Then
You
Got
A
Better
Chance
Of
Cracking
It
Because
You
Probably
Got
More
Weak
Packets
It
Is
A
Statistical
Thing
There
Is
A
Certain
Percentage
Of
Them
That
Are
Going
To
Create
It
If
You
Sniff
For
Ten
Minutes
You
Are
Probably
Not
Get
Nearly
Enough
Packets
To
Crack
It
If
It
Is
A
Wireless
Network
That
Is
Just
I
Like
A
Home
Network
Exactly
Or
Not
Being
Use
That
Much
Right
Exactly
So
It
So
It
Is
Tough
Yes
It
Is
Doable
If
You
Go
To
A
Business
Where
There
Is
Always
People
Using
A
Wireless
All
The
Time
You
Know
Then
You
Are
Going
To
Get
A
Lot
Of
Traffic
In
The
Air
And
Even
In
That
Situation
You
Have
To
Get
Hundreds
Of
Thousands
Of
Packets
Lots
Of
Packets
It
Will
Still
Maybe
Take
You
A
Day
Get
To
Determine
It
Obviously
The
More
Packets
You
Get
The
Better
So
Sniff
As
Long
As
You
Can
If
You're
Not
In
A
Hurry
Then
You're
Fine
However
You
Know
For
The
Most
Part
That
Being
Said
That
Still
Maintains
Some
Security
For
Web
Let's
Say
You
Sat
There
And
Sniffed
All
Day
On
A
Network
And
You
Got
Hundreds
Of
Thousands
Of
Packets
You
Go
Home
It
Takes
You
24
Hours
To
Decode
It
I
Mean
You
Put
Such
A
Delay
In
There
A
You
Could
Have
Been
Discovered
B
You
Know
Who
Knows
What
They've
Changed
It
Another
Technique
That
A lot
Of
Companies
Are
Using
Is
Changing
The
Web
Key
Daily
And
Sometimes
Some
Places
I
Think
There's
A
Way
That
You
Can
Have
It
Change
Every
10
Or
15
That
Was
Then
That's
The
Old
School
That's
The
Old
School
Way
Of
Cracking
Web
The
New
Hotness
Is
Packet
Injection
And
Specifically
What
You
Can
Do
Here
Is
You
Do
A
Man
In
The
Middle
Attack
Using
Some
Packet
Injection
Techniques
You
Will
Get
In
Between
A
Wireless
Network
Between
One
User
And
Another
You
Sniff
Some
Packets
Out
Of
The
Air
You
See
Who
Connecting
To
What
You
See
What
The
Hub
Etc
And
You
Basically
Take
Two
Wireless
Cards
And
Put
Them
In
Your
Laptop
Or
Whatever
We're
Assuming
Laptop
Here
And
Put
Them
In
There
One
Card
Is
Designated
To
Receive
Packets
And
It's
Going
To
Pretend
That
It's
The
WAP
So
That
User
Is
Actually
Going
To
Be
Connecting
To
You
Have
Another
Card
On
Your
Laptop
That
Then
Communicates
To
The
Wireless
Access
Point
So
You
Injected
Yourself
In
The
Middle
Of
This
Process
So
Every
Packet
That
Goes
Through
Is
Going
To
Go
Through
You
All
Right
Now
First
Of
All
That
Doesn't
Really
Change
Anything
Whether
You're
Sniffing
The
Packets
Or
You're
Intercepting
Them
And
Passing
Them
On
In
The
Man
In
The
Middle
The
Number
Of
Packets
Has
Not
Changed
So
You
Really
Didn't
Do
Anything
There
To
Help
Your
Cracking
Your
Increase
Your
Chances
Of
Cracking
That
Web
All
You're
Doing
Is
Passing
It
Off
Well
It
Was
Discovered
That
Similarly
To
The
Airpone
Situation
That
The
Packets
Themselves
The
Headers
Are
Not
Encrypted
Only
The
Payload
Only
The
Actual
Text
Part
Of
The
Packet
Is
Encrypted
So
You
Can
Sit
There
As
The
Man
In
The
Middle
And
Catch
All
These
Packets
That
Go
Through
You
May
Not
Be
Able
To
Read
The
Payload
But
You
Can
See
All
The
Headers
And
All
The
Header
Information
And
Anybody
That
Ever
Used
Edder
Cap
Or
Any
Kind
Of
Other
Capturing
Software
And
They
Specifically
It
Is
Called
Air
Replay
And
I
Think
There
Are
A
Couple
Others
Out
There
But
That
Is
The
Most
Popular
One
Right
Now
That
Basically
Will
Pick
Up
These
Packets
And
It
Doesn't
Matter
Like
I
Said
What
The
Payload
Is
Don't
Look
At
Cracking
The
Payload
Of
The
Individual
Packet
Although
That
Is
An
Interesting
Topic
For
Another
Time
As
Well
All
You
Have
To
Do
Is
Take
That
Packet
In
On
Your
Incoming
Wireless
Card
And
Send
It
Back
Out
On
Your
Outgoing
Wireless
Card
And
Be
That
Man
In
The
Middle
But
You're
Sniffing
Them
As
They
Go
Through
And
All
You
Have
To
Do
Is
Sniff
For
A
Few
Seconds
Even
And
You're
Going
To
Get
All
Kind
Of
Packets
Art
Packets
ICMP
TCP
Packets
Etc
And
You're
Going
To
Be
Able
To
Gather
Enough
Information
Out
Of
The
Headers
You're
Going
To
Get
Back
Addresses
You're
Going
To
Get
Uniquely
Identifiable
Things
In
The
Header
To
Know
The
Components
On
The
Network
Once
You
Have
That
Like
I
Said
It
Doesn't
Matter
What's
In
The
Packet
All
You
Got
To
Do
Is
Send
A
Packet
Wherever
You
Want
Send
A
What's
The
Point
Of
That
You
Say
You
Don't
Know
What's
In
The
Packet
It
Doesn't
Matter
What's
In
The
Packet
All
You're
Doing
That
For
Is
To
Basically
Generate
A
Response
Because
Every
Response
That
You
Generate
Is
Another
WEP
Encrypted
Packet
So
If
I
Send
Out
In
A
Matter
Of
Seconds
A
Few
Hundred
Thousand
Packets
And
I
Get
Responses
Back
That
Are
Also
Encoded
There's
Responses
I'm
Generating
My
Own
Packets
I
Don't
Have
To
Sit
There
And
Sniff
For
Hours
Or
Days
Or
Weeks
To
Get
A
Hundred
Thousand
Hundreds
Of
Thousands
Of
Packets
Now
I
Can
Generate
All
These
Phony
Packets
To
The
Same
Device
And
You're
Generating
Your
Own
Packets
So
Even
If
They
In
Their
Best
Case
Scenario
Are
Changing
Their
Web
Key
Every
15
Minutes
Or
Something
Like
That
Or
Every
Day
You
Know
What
With
This
And
It's
Been
Proven
There
Are
I
Don't
Unfortunately
I don't
Have
Any
Links
A
Security
Focus
Article
Is
The
Best
Thing
That
I've
Seen
On
It
And
Air
Replay
If
You
Do
A
Google
Search
For
That
You'll
Find
It
And
It's
A
Matter
Generated
A
Bajillion
Packets
As
Many
As
You
Want
Start
Cracking
Away
At
It
You've
Got
So
Many
That
And
I
Don't
Know
If
I
Emphasized
This
Earlier
The
More
Packets
You
Get
The
Easier
It
Is
To
Crack
Because
You
Get
More
Weak
Packets
In
There
Well
When
You
Can
Generate
Them
On
Demand
You
Can
Generate
A
Whole
Bunch
Of
Them
In
A
Matter
Of
Minutes
Turn
That
Cracker
Loose
And
The
More
You
Have
The
Faster
The
Crack
Goes
So
If
You
Stop
It
After
10
Seconds
It
Still
Going
To
Take
You
A
Long
Time
To
Crack
If
You
Let
It
Run
For
A
Minute
And
A
Half
Two
Minutes
While
It
Find
You
But
Even
Then
You
Know
Whatever
That
Is
A
Whole
Another
Topic
But
You
Can
Generate
Packets
On
Demand
So
That
You
Can
Then
Start
Cracking
Them
Almost
Instantly
So
You
Can
Be
It
It's
Gotten
To
The
Point
Now
Where
You
Can
Pull
Up
To
A
Wep
Encrypted
Network
Anywhere
And
All
You
Got
To
Get
A
Couple
Packets
To
Get
Started
And
Then
You
Start
Generating
Your
Own
And
You
Can
Own
Any
Wep
Encrypted
Network
And
Therefore
Any
Wireless
Network
Maybe
WPA
Of
Course
If
People
Are
Using
That
Which
Never
Caught
On
So
This
Pretty
Much
Defeats
I
Mean
Wep
Is
Dead
Wow
Yeah
It
It's
And
Actually
It's
Brilliant
It
Really
Is
Brilliant
It's
Brilliant
In
It's
Simplicity
I
Think
It's
Great
Idea
And
Even
If
There
Was
A
Network
Looking
At
The
Logs
Or
Something
I
Mean
You
Could
Still
Use
Mac
Spoofing
Yeah
You
Spoof
Your
Mac
Address
Of
Your
Orinoco
Card
That
We've
All
Been
Doing
For
Years
The
Orinoco
Gold
Card
So
Yeah
It
Really
Is
Dead
It's
Pretty
Much
Anybody
That
Wants
To
Get
In
I
Mean
Obviously
People
Have
To
Know
This
But
It's
Only
A
Matter
Of
Time
Before
This
Technique
Becomes
Wrapping
The
Show
Up
I
Guess
For
Our
Site
Of
The
Week
We
Should
Go
Ahead
And
Give
It
To
Security
Focus
Dot
Com
Because
That's
Where
I
Read
About
This
Actually
Voodoo
Hal
Is
The
One
Who
Told
Me
About
This
First
And
Got
Me
Interested
In
It
And
I
Read
Up
On
It
And
It's
Like
Wow
This
Is
Pretty
Hard
Core
So
Security
Focus
Dot
That's
Our
Site
Google
Mining
For
Bell
South
Oh
My
God
I
Don't
Know
If
You
See
We're
Supposed
To
Be
Discussing
That
Oh
Man
There's
A
Lot
Of
Good
Stuff
Out
There
For
That
Yeah
We
Won't
Give
It
On
The
Air
But
Go
To
Forums
Dot
Bin
Rev
Dot
Com
And
The
Google
Mining
Section
Which
Is
One
Of
Our
Projects
That
We're
Working
On
With
The
Roman
Poet
He
Is
Keeping
An
Eye
On
That
As
Well
And
Coming
Up
With
Some
Other
Projects
That
He
Wants
To
Research
So
Far
There's
Been
Some
Really
Interesting
Finds
Some
Plain
Text
Passwords
And
All
Kinds
Of
Good
Stuff
Yep
Let's
See
My
Shouts
This
Week
Go
To
Zero
DB
To
Cloak
Dagger
To
Rim
To
Iggy
And
El
Diablo
And
I
Gotta
Say
A
Long
Overdue
Shout
I
To
Everybody
In
IRC
I
Hopped
In
The
IRC
Channel
During
The
Show
Last
Week
There
Were
A
Lot
Of
People
In
The
I
Was
Blown
Away
That
There
Were
So
Many
And
All
Talking
And
It
Was
Fun
Good
Conversation
Interesting
Conversation
Funny
Conversation
Everybody
Was
Well
Behaved
There
Were
No
More
Trolls
There
Anymore
At
Least
Not
When
I
Happened
To
Be
In
There
So
Shouts
We'll
See
On
April
12th
Yeah
Right
IRC
Everybody
In
IRC
Big
Shouts
To
You
Guys
I
I'm
Going
To
Try
To
Hanging
Out
In
The
IRC
Channels
More
Often
Myself
It's
Just
I
Never
Ever
Seem
To
Get
Time
But
I'm
Going
To
Start
Jumping
In
At
Least
Maybe
When
The
Show
Is
On
I
Used
To
Do
That
In
The
Beginning
And
Then
I
Just
Always
Get
Pulled
Away
Or
Have
To
Go
To
Sleep
Because
It's
A work
Night
And
I'm
Old
And
Yada
Definitely
Understand
That
And
You know
My
New
Job
I
Got
All
These
Service
Orders
I
Got
To
Go
Out
To
I
Don't
Even
Know
If
I'm
Going
To
Be
Home
For
This
Show
But
If
I
Am
I'll
Definitely
Hop
On
Send
Anything
To
Radio
At
Bin
Rev.
Com
That's
Stuff
That
I
Read
On
The
Air
Or
May
Read
I
Won't
You
Know
If
You
Tell
Me
Not
To
I
Won't
Read
It
But
If
You
Send
Something
To
Stankdog
At
Bin
Rev.
Com
Or
Stankdog
At
Any
Of
My
Addresses
Anything
Else
Does
Not
Necessarily
Get
Read
On
The
Air
Before
I
Will
Read
Any
Of
I
Will
Contact
Delete
Them
Every
Time
I
Can't
Go
On
There
All
The
Time
And
Keep
Up
With
Them
So
By
The
Time
I
Look
At
Them
They're
Old
And
I've
Gotten
Into
The
Habit
Of
Deleting
Them
So
I
Don't
See
Anything
In
Private
Messages
On
The
Forums
If
You
Send
It
To
My
Private
Email
That's
The
Best
Way
To
Get
In
Touch
With
Me
That
Will
Not
Be
Most
Diabolically
Genius
Audience
There
Is
Closing
Music
Tonight
Is
From
Peanut
Butter
Wolf
I
Don't
Know
If
I've
Used
This
To
Close
Before
But
I
Like
It
Some
Old
School
Nattacists
Is
For
You
It's
Called
Styles
Crew
Floats
Beats
And
Lucky
225
Thank
You
Diabolical
Genius
That's
Got
Such
A
Ring
To
It
Though
I
Do
Like
That
Lucky
225
Thank
You
For
Doing
The
Show
With
Me
Again
And
Tell
Everybody
That
We
Will
See
Them
Next
Week
Same
Hack
Time
Same
Hack
Channel
Why
Do
You
Do
That
One
Two
Three
It
Was
A
Party
Night
Everybody
Was
Breaking
The
Highs
With
The
Scream
And
Everybody
Go
Peanut
Butter
Wolf
Peanut
Butter
Wolf
Peanut
Butter
Wolf
from
The
Beat
Pop
With
End
And
He's on
His
hot
?
Hey
Everybody
Phase 2
Phase 3
Phase 2
Yeah.
Ha!