This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million game pegs of you in a fag poem
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dream packs
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ, leave your fight on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RANs, SIFs, SIFs
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack
Hello everyone and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio
Numero noventa ocho
Ninety-eight
Episode 98 coming to you on May 31st, 2005
And some of you who have been listening for a while
Probably recognize that little voice you just heard
Our returning co-host this week
A long time returning co-host
The original co-host actually
Wintermute is with us this week
It's not really a little voice, it's a pretty booming voice
As Duel would say it was a radio voice
Radio voice, exactly
It's not little
So, we are going to talk about some cool stuff today
Wintermute is going to talk about some ham radio topics
That he's been working on lately
And hopefully bring me up to speed at least a little bit
I'm sure not completely
I'll see if I can follow along as best I can
But before we do that, let's take care of a little housekeeping
Here at the beginning of the show
Actually, there's only one thing I really wanted to talk about
And that is Freak Factor
Freak Factor Episode 5
If you haven't been listening to Freak Factor
That is our new hacking freaking reality radio show
You can check out FreakFactor.net
That's P-H-R-E-A-K
P-H-A-C-T-O-R
For more information, to download some of the other episodes
Etc, etc
It's been much more successful than I ever thought it would be
We did it just because it was new
Never been done before
We wanted to see if we could do it
And kind of a fun idea
And it really has been kind of a fun show
This past week particularly
I guess some people didn't care for it
But others seemed to take a
Had a lot of fun with it
And Episode 5 actually had the highest ratings
As it were
Not that there's like ratings exactly
But probably the most activity that we've ever had on any episode
So considering we're only five weeks in
To an experimental show that has no set format
No particular way of doing things
That's completely random and chaotic
I think it's coming along pretty good
We had upwards of 75, 76 people in the IRC channel
And active and talking and chatting
Which is very cool
And pound binrev on down that
We also had
I believe I saw it as high as 54, 55 listeners to the stream
So we've got a lot of people listening
We're eating some bandwidth on that show
That's for sure
So we had about 54 people listening
At least when I checked
And of course I was kind of in and out
Walking back and forth
So I wasn't constantly monitoring it
So I don't know how high
It may have actually gotten
I might have to go back and check some stats for that
But it is higher than even the first episode
The premiere episode
So the show is getting some attention
People are finding it fun and interesting
So hopefully you are one of them
And if not
Again check out freakfactor.net
And not only listen
But join in and participate
So
Unless you had some housekeeping
Actually you know what
I'm going to put you on the spot here
For housekeeping
I didn't ask you this earlier
But
Is wintermute
Ones and threes of course
Dot net still up and running these days?
It is
It's a little
It's a little taken down
I haven't done anything
Because I was planning on doing something over a break
If you go there now
It's going to be just
Kind of a title page
It doesn't have anything
It says November 15th on it
Because I thought I was going to fix it
On November 15th
But
School got the better of me
And I just kind of let it be
So
I mean
I'm thinking about it
I got some material
I could definitely put up there now
So
I'm thinking
I mean
If I find some time
I have a 40 hour work week nowadays
So
We can see
But
It's still up
I still own it
It's the only whip that I own right now
And you've been renewing it
And what not
Yeah
I renew
I do some other websites
Some other private ones
But
I still keep that one
Because I like the name
Actually
Someone is trying to sell
Wintermute.com
They didn't
They didn't ask me for it
They just put up an ad for it
Which is pretty funny
Wow
That was awful nice of them
Alright
Well
Then I guess
At this point
We should probably
Jump into the email
All righty
So our email this week
Is
Actually
This is one of the lightest
Weeks for email
That I think we've ever had
Even since the first episode
We did not have a whole lot
Of email this week
But the ones we got
Were pretty good
And actually
Before I go into a specific one
I
I got my very first piece
Of Gmail spam
Have you gotten any spam
On your Gmail account?
Never
I have been so impressed
I don't get those little
You know those little ads
On the side
But those don't really matter
I mean I've never gotten
A physical piece of spam
It's beautiful
Right
The ads on the side
You know you accepted that
When you created the account
And all that
So you don't really
You have to get those
But yeah
I'd never gotten an actual
Piece of spam
Until today
Tonight I should say
And this is
We're recording this
Monday night by the way
So I just got a piece
Of spam for the first time
One piece
And it was filtered
Don't get me wrong
It wasn't in my inbox
It went to the spam folder
So first one
That I had ever seen
Which I thought
Was kind of
Kind of a landmark achievement
I guess
I guess now that
People have figured out
How to get in there
Then maybe it's a matter of time
So
Start
Before it starts getting flooded
I sent the person
The person who
The spam came from
I actually sent them
A Gmail invite
In response
I thought you know
Kind of be nice
And invite them to Gmail
But it bounced back
Big surprise
But hey
I tried
I had
I got 49 left
Alright
So
First email this week
Comes from
Dabee
From over at Telefreak
And Dabeef says
Hello
As normal
Great show
I was sitting here
Writing code
And listening to episode 97
A person wrote in
About open VMS programming
DCL
And general
Safe programming
DCL actually stands
For digital command language
I thought we actually
Mentioned that on the show
But okay
For the most part
You're correct
About it's usage
It mostly
It mostly used
As a scripting
Type of language
Right
You can also use it
For submitting batch jobs
And such
What makes it more like
A quote
Real programming language
Is the use of
Lexicles
Lexicles allow you
To make
Allow you to do
Make obtain
Information
Wait a minute here
To obtain information
About the process
The system
And devices
It also allows you
To manipulate data types
And strings
This allows you
With DCL
To create
Real
Quote
Real
Programs
For example
CGI's
And that is a good example
About the security
Of open VMS
You're correct
That open VMS
Has a bit of an advantage
With it's security
Through obscurity
Which I mentioned
Last week
That it's just one of those
Things that not many people
Know about
Now of course
I'm not saying
That that's a good
Form of security
And like I said
Last week
It just
It is a bonus
That not many people
Know what OS you're using
And I said the same thing
About Plan 9
From Bell Labs
Plan 9
Is another OS
That not many people
Know about
So it's going to be
More difficult to hack
For the simple
Security through obscurity
Factor of it
Anyway let's see
This doesn't change
The fact that VMS
Is actually a very
Secure operating system
Things were thought out
In VMS a decade
Before it hit the
Nix world
For example
Clustering and
System fine
Grain security controls
Or ACLs
Checking for overflow
Conditions etc
I've been offering
People a chance
To hack on my
Cluster for over
Four years now
The result has been
A few security
Problems in third
Party software
The WASD web server
For example
It's not been
Through lack of
Trying I assure you
We have yet to see
A core open
VMS exploit
Don't get me wrong
I'm not saying
That they don't
I'm certainly not
Saying that they
Don't exist
We've had people
Like
I apologize
If I don't
Pronounce this
Jean-Luc
Gailey
The author of
Gzip
Who wrote the
Assembly back
In for crack
To handle
SysUAF.dat files
Even Kevin Mitnick
Show up in the
Cluster
Jean-Luc was able
To create an
Exploit for the
WASD web server
On the secure
Programming side
OpenVMS helps
You out
A bit with that
Typically things
Like buffer
Overruns are
Caused by
Unsafe
Programming
Practices
And this is
Kind of changing
A little bit
Of topics
One of the
Other things
We talked
About last
Week also
Was someone
Had questioned
Safe programming
Practices
And he's
Addressing that
In regards to
VMS
The same
The same can
Even happen
With VMS
OpenVMS helps
With secure
Programming
With things
Like descriptors
Without going
Through the
Descriptor
Mechanism
The user
Application can't
Use a
Privileged
Operation
Access a
Privileged
Resource
Or change
The system
Kernel or
Other user
Memory
Dynamic
Descriptors
Where the
User can set
The buffer
Size
The system
Attempts to
Allocate the
Space
If for some
Reason it
Cannot the
User gets
An exception
Fault
Trying to
Write beyond
The allocated
Buffer size
Into system
Kernel or
Another user's
Memory
You'll get
An exception
Fault
Many of the
OpenVMS
Privileged
Service
For example
Sort of like
Running a
SUID
Program in
Nix
Use static
Descriptors in
Which the
Buffer size
Is fixed
And controlled
By OpenVMS
Privileged
Code
The user
Application
Has no
Influence
Over the
Buffer size
In this
Case
There are
Things now
In the
Nix
World
That emulate
The same
Ideas
But with
Technically
Different
Approaches
For example
OpenBSD
Non-executable
Stack
And libraries
Like LibSafe
Anyways I'll
Stop ranting
On
As I said
Great show
And a
Big fat
Howdy
To
Natus
Okay
Thank you
The Bee
For the
Email
That was
A lot
Of good
Insight
Into
VMS
Thank you
Very much
For sharing
That with
Us
And confirming
A lot
Of the
Stuff we
Talked
About
Last
Week
DCL
Control
Any
Kind of
Control
Language
Not only
DCL
But any
Kind of
Control
Language
All act
Very
Similarly
To what
We've
Described
In the
Past couple
Of episodes
Whether
It's
Mainframe
Whether
It's
VMS
Whether
It's
AS400
Whatever
They
All act
Very
Similarly
Wow
Say that
For me
Similarly
Gosh I'm the
Worst radio
Host ever
Alright
So
Make sure
No
That would
Be
Dual
Oh I
Forgot
About
Him
Yeah
I'm
One
Step
Above
That
Thank
Goodness
Woo
Oh he'll
Never hear
This to
Yell at
Me
Anyway
Dual
Is
Long
Unplugged
Although I
Just spoke to
Him a couple
Days ago
He's doing
Well
I pass
On
Well wishes
From people
To him
Sometimes
And he
Appreciates
It
So check
Out
Deathrow
Dot
Viztech
Dot
Net
That's
D-E-A-T-H-R-O-W
Dot
V-I-S-T-E-C-H
Dot
Net
And check
Out their
VMS cluster
Create an
Account
You can get
Some
VMS
Experience
On that
Very cool
Plus
I love
The naming
Convention
It's called
Deathrow
For a reason
I think
If you check
Out the
Node
Names
You'll
Figure out
Why
Fairly
Quickly
Have you
Been doing
Do you
Use
VMS
At all
Wintermute
I used
To
When
Hankerman
Was around
And I heard
About it
Then
I made
A couple
Accounts
Played around
A little
Bit
It was
Pretty
Cool
It's
Very
Structured
Very
Is that
Rigid
I would
Say
It's
More
I don't
Know how
To
Explain
It
It's
Very
Structured
It's
A very
Structured
Operating
System
I think
I would
Say
Rigid
Is a
Good
Word
Also
But
I
Don't
Want to
Sound
Like
It's
Controlling
It's
Open
Of course
It's
An
Open
It's
Called
Open
VMS
For
A reason
But
I mean
It
Keeps
You
In
Check
Basically
It
Doesn't
Let
You
Do
As
Much
Or
Get
Away
With
A lot
Of
Errors
It's
Very
I
Don't
Know
The
Right
Word
Rigid
Would
Be
A
Good
Word
I
Guess
And
Your
Experience
With
It
Was
Also
Online
Here
Playing
With
It
With
This
Exact
Cluster
It's
A
Great
Cluster
They
Run
A
Lot
Of
Very
Useful
Tools
On
It
Just
Kind
Of
Nice
Little
Quarks
Bulletin
Board
Systems
And
Really
Very
Solid
Stuff
I
Was
Pretty
Impressed
Yeah
It's
Definitely
A
Good
Service
And
Any
Anybody
That's
Offering
Like
We've
Talked
About
Also
On
The
On
Past
Shows
Like
There's
Some
People
Out
There
That
Offer
AS
400
Shells
Which
Is
Very
Cool
And
Obviously
Now
Open
VMS
Shells
Which
Is
He's
Been
Doing
This
For
Four
Years
Plus
Four
Plus
Years
Which
Is
Very
Cool
I
Love
The
Fact
That
People
Are
Doing
This
Because
It's
Not
As
Many
People
Find
It
As
Interesting
As
I
Do
I
Do
I
Think
It's
Great
I
Have
Some
VMS
Experience
Gosh
It's
Been
15
Plus
Years
Since
I've
Really
Played
Around
With
It
Too
Much
But
I
Still
Hop
On
And
Can
Move
And
Navigate
Around
Somewhat
I
Don't
Think
I
Can
Get
On
There
He's
Saying
That
No
One
Is
Really
I
Don't
Know
If
He
You
That
That's
Not
Going
To
Be
The
Case
But
One
Of
The
Nice
Things
With
VMS
Is
There's
A
Great
Help
System
In
There
It's
Better
Than
Man
Pages
Almost
You
Can
Find
Anything
You
Need
Very
Quickly
If
You
Don't
Know
How
To
Do
A
Command
All
The
Core
Stuff
Is
Built
Into
The
Help
And
I'm
Assuming
The
Third
Party
Things
Adapt
Very
Nicely
To
All
Right
So
Let's
See
Here
That
Was
A
Great
Email
To
Start
The
Show
With
Again
Thanks
Again
To
The
Bee
For
That
Dub
Beef
Dub
Beef
Okay
Next
Email
This
Week
Comes
From
Someone
Who
I'm
Going
To
Withhold
Their
Real
Name
Who
Says
I
Notice
That
You're
Able
To
Make
The
Account
Last
For
An
Indefinite
Amount
Of
Time
By
Modifying
The
Source
Code
He's
Referring
To
Who.biz
Of
Course
Is
Our
Disposable
Email
Project
That
Will
Allow
You
To
Put
A
Temporary
Email
Account
For
X
Number
Of
Hours
Or
Days
If
You
Want
To
Get
Some
Information
Or
Register
For
A
Site
But
You
Don't
Want
To
Get
Spammed
In
The
Process
You
Can
Use
These
Accounts
For
That
Type
Of
Activity
While
Still
Maintaining
Some
Level
Of
Security
And
This
Gentleman
Seems
To
It
May
Look
Like
That
At
First
If
You
Try
To
I
Mean
Like
Anything
Else
It's
Got
Parameters
That
Are
Being
Passed
To
Get
Post
Etc
And
You
Can
Replace
Anything
You
Want
In
There
Just
Like
Anything
Else
And
I
Think
Blandon
Crisitor
Wrote
A
Really
Good
Article
About
This
Couple
Years
Back
About
How
This
Could
Be
Abused
With
Like
A
Lot
Of
Shopping
Carts
And
Online
Shopping
Systems
Back
In
The
Day
Where
You
Could
Change
In
That
Amount
And
If
They
Don't
Have
Any
Bounce
Checking
On
The
Back
End
It
Might
Go
Through
Well
We
Do
Have
Bounce
Checking
On
The
Input
Fields
You
Can
You
Can
Put
It
In
There
When
You
Actually
Submit
You
Can
Change
It
To
Whatever
You
Want
But
As
Soon
As
It
Hours
So
Seven
Days
Is
The
Maximum
That
We
Allow
People
To
Set
It
Up
So
Yeah
It
May
Have
Looked
Like
It
Worked
But
If
You
Would
Have
Actually
Gone
All
The
Way
Through
You
Would
Have
Realized
That
It
Would
Stop
You
Before
It
Would
Create
The
Account
But
Thanks
For
Playing
And
We've
Got
Some
Parting
Gifts
For
You
No
We
Don't
Actually
But
It
Was
Pretty
Cool
Booter
Says
Hey
Stank
I
Just
Recently
Hacked
In
Quotation
Marks
I
Recently
Hacked
A
Bar
Machine
Slash
Game
Those
Are
Those
Machines
You
See
Sitting
In
Bars
That
Have
Games
On
Them
Like
Golf
And
Trivia
I
Noticed
That
By
Clicking
On
The
Menu
Slash
Info
Button
That
It
Prompts
You
With
Three
Choices
I
Chose
The
One
With
Stars
Turns
Out
This
Is
A
Password
Prompt
Consisting
Of
A
Four
Digit
Code
Using
Numbers
One
Through
Six
I
Know
It
Can
Be
Cracked
By
Social
Engineering
Of
Course
Getting
The
Password
From
Someone
Right
But
I
Was
Determined
To
Do
The
Ground
Work
I
Created
A
Spreadsheet
And
Listed
All
Possible
Solutions
I
Then
Went
To
Work
On
The
Machine
Think
War
Dialing
Well
No
There's
A
Better
Term
Than
That
Think
Brute
Force
That's
What
You're
Brute
Forcing
It
I
Finally
Cracked
It
And
Although
There
Isn't
Too
Much
To
Do
With
The
System
It
Was
Still
Interesting
And
Intriguing
To
Actually
Accomplish
My
Mission
Yeah
I
Mean
Brute
Force
Is
Awesome
I
Still
Love
Brute
Forcing
Things
I
Mean
I
Know
Encryption
Is
Around
And
Some
Things
You
Can't
Brute
Force
Anymore
They
Made
It
With
Proper
Application
Of
Encryption
Techniques
You
Can't
Really
Brute
Force
A
Lot
Of
Things
As
Easily
Or
As
Effectively
Anymore
But
Stuff
Like
This
Absolutely
Can
And
Just
The
Simple
Fact
That
You
Wanted
To
Yeah
I
Mean
Yeah
You
Could
Have
Tried
To
SE
It
Out
Of
Somebody
Get
The
Password
From
Somewhere
Look
It
Up
Online
See
If
It
Was
On
Default
Whatever
Just
A
Simple
Fact
You
Didn't
Want
To
Do
That
You
Wanted
To
See
If
You
Could
Hammer
Away
At
It
So
I
Think
That's
Very
Cool
It's
Not
Just
Brute
Force
But
A
Little
Bit
Of
Logic
In
There
Right
I
Mean
We
Can
Eliminate
Some
Combinations
Through
Logic
Just
Through
Simple
Logic
We
Know
It's
Only
Numbers
One
Through
Six
You
Know
We
Don't
Have
To
Include
Anything
Seven
Eight
Nine
In
There
Level
Probability
Course
You
Can
Really
Narrow
That
Stuff
Down
Exactly
And
I
Want
Some
Of
My
Favorite
College
Courses
Of
All
Time
Were
Probability
Which
They
May
Call
It
Different
I
I've
Never
Seen
It
Called
Probability
But
You
Can
Take
Some
Of
The
Higher
Level
Statistics
Courses
Contain
Probability
Advanced
Statistics
Quantitative
Methods
Of
Business
Some
Of
The
Higher
Math
Classes
And
Or
They
May
Be
Listed
With
Accounting
Slash
Statistics
Possibly
But
Those
Are
Very
Interesting
Classes
And
Once
You
Take
One
You'll
Never
Gamble
Again
In
Your
Entire
Life
You'll
Never
Ever
Want
To
Gamble
For
The
Rest
Of
Your
Life
Even
I
Had
A
Great
Teacher
I
Was
Very
Happy
With
The
Teacher
I
Had
For
Q
And
B
Where
He
Used
Gambling
As
Examples
For
A
Lot
Of
It
As
Application
For
A
Lot
Of
Not
Only
Did
He
Show
You
How
It
Was
Rigged
And
How
It
Was
Always
Weighted
Against
You
But
Also
The
Actual
Application
Is
To
Calculate
The
Exact
Odds
And
The
Exact
Probabilities
Of
Certain
Things
So
Not
Only
Did
You
Know
It
Was
Against
You
Which
Logic
May
Dictate
That
Everybody
Knows
That
The
Odds
Are
In
Favor
Of
The
House
But
When
You
Can
Sit
Down
And
Calculate
It
And
See
How
Much
They
Are
In
Favor
Of
The
House
It
Really
Opens
Your
Eyes
A
Lot
And
You
Can
Sit
Down
And
Based
On
A
Little
Bit
Of
Information
Figure
Out
Which
Games
Give
The
Best
And
Worst
Chances
And
Which
On
You
Actually
Have
Some
Shots
At
Winning
Money
At
In
The
Short
Term
And
The
Long
Term
None
Of
Them
But
Anyway
I digress
Those
Are
Some
Of
The
Most
Interesting
Classes
I've
Ever
Had
And
I've
Always
Emphasized
I wrote
That
Article
Hacking
The
Lottery
Explaining
How
The
Lottery
Works
And
What
A
Big
Rip
Off
What
A
Big
Joke
That
Was
And
That
Was
Definitely
Inspired
By
Those
Classes
It's
Definitely
Important
That
Anybody
In
The
Computer
Field
Have
A
Very
Strong
Math
Background
That's
Just
My
Opinion
And
Maybe
Because
I
Just
Enjoy
Math
I
Really
If
I
Had
Not
Gone
To
CIS
Major
I
Might
Have
Actually
Become
A
Math
Major
But
I
Don't
Know
We'll
See
Maybe
I'll
Go
Back
To
School
Again
Soon
Alright
So
Yeah
I'm
Glad
To
See
That
You
And
You
Actually
Cracked
It
Which
Is
Very
Cool
So
There
Was
An
Article
It
Seems
Like
In
2600
Do
You
Still
Get
2600
By
The
Way
You
Still
Read
It
Or
What
I
Read
It
Not
Sold
Around
Here
Actually
I
Still
Read
It
Seems
Like
There
Was
An
Article
Sometime
In
The
Past
Year
Of
Somebody
That
Had
Put
Together
Like
This
Giant
It
Was
Basically
One
Big
Number
Like
What
He
Had
Sent
Us
I
Will
Put
This
Up
On
The
Notes
But
He
Sent
It
Dial
It
And
Then
You
Could
Dial
Through
All
Of
The
Different
Codes
Through
Answering
Machines
So
Like
If
You
Were
War
Dialing
You
Could
Just
Dial
This
One
20
Or
30
Digit
Long
Number
Or
It
Is
It
Been
Around
For
A
Long
Time
It
For
Doors
That
Are
Probably
Accessible
But
You
Know
You
Don't
Need
A
Key
Because
The
Key
Is
Hard
To
Copy
And
It
Hard
To
Get
People
Keys
It
Hard
To
Change
The
Key
Lock
But
A
Simplox
Lock
Is
Easy
Reprogram
And
It
Just
A
Number
It
A
Very
Easy
Number
To
Memorize
It
Could
Be
Of
Any
Length
It
A
Couple
Numbers
It
Could
Be
Ten
Numbers
Or
Whatever
But
It
Is
Very
Easy
To
Go
Through
A
Lot
There
Is
A
String
Of
Numbers
To
Push
I
Never
Used
It
I
Don't
Even
Have
It
I
Just
Heard
About
It
That
You
Can
Get
Through
A
Lot
Of
Simple
Code
Very
Quickly
Yeah
And
Actually
Some
Of
Shouldersurf
Even
Better
Yet
Shouldersurf
The
Password
From
Somebody
But
The
Newer
Ones
Have
An
Interface
So
You
Can
Plug
A
Laptop
In
There
And
I
Actually
Was
Going
To
Look
Into
This
And
See
What
I
Could
Find
Out
And
It
One
Of
Those
Projects
I
Haven't
Had
Time
To
Do
But
You
Can
Plug
A
Laptop
In
There
And
I
Believe
You
Have
Proprietary
Software
That
Will
Connect
And
You
Can
Actually
Program
People's
Names
In
There
Because
A lot
Of
Them
Now
Will
Let
You
Swipe
A
Card
Or
Punch
In
A
Number
So
They
Have
An
Interface
Where
You
Can
Load
In
A
Data
File
With
A
List
Of
Approved
People
On
There
And
Connect
And
Change
The
Password
And
Things
I
I'm
Not
Sure
What
All
The
Features
Are
So
Some
Of
The
Are
More
Doors
Around
Here
Are
Two
Numbers
At
Once
And
One
Number
Or
A
String
Of
Five
Or
Six
I
Mean
To
The
Discretion
Of
Whoever
Runs
The
Door
And
There
A
Lot
Of
Older
Ones
I
Haven't
Seen
In
Those
New
Ones
I
Been
Seeing
A
Lot
Of
He
Said
People
I
Mean
Not
Twins
But
Even
Like
Cousins
Or
People
Being
Able
To
Get
Through
The
Door
So
I
Mean
It's
Not
A
Lot
Of
The
Stuff
Is
Not
High
End
It's
Not
Like
Government
Issue
Right
Of
Course
And
Of
Course
If
They
Have
Proper
Physical
Security
They
Have
Cameras
In
Place
And
Things
Like
That
Anyway
But
That's
A
Whole
Another
Kind
Of
Interesting
And
I
Will
Throw
That
Up
Somewhere
On
The
Site
I'll
Put
In
The
Show
Notes
Unless
He
Objects
And
I
Have
Already
Stripped
Out
The
Metadata
Be
Careful
Of
Any
Microsoft
Office
Stuff
That
You
Send
Around
It
Keeps
A
Lot
Of
Metadata
With
Company
Name
Author
Name
Things
Like
That
So
I
Strip
That
Out
And
I
Will
Throw
It
Up
Whenever
I
Get
Around
To
Putting
The
Show
Notes
Up
For
This
Episode
And
I
Think
That's
It
And
Just
You
Know
What
And
Generally
Speaking
I
Know
That
I
Know
That
Kind
Of
Is
A
Brute
Force
Attack
It's
Not
Exactly
The
Most
High
Tech
And
Some
New
Technique
Or
Anything
Like
That
But
You
Know
What
It's
Still
Fun
Sometimes
And
It's
Still
Fun
To
Find
Something
You
Don't
Know
Anything
About
And
Just
Challenge
Yourself
To
Do
It
There's
Nothing
Wrong
With
Brute
Forcing
It's
All
About
Finding
Something
That
You
Want
To
Play
With
And
Hammering
A
Way
At
It
Figuring
Out
How
It
Works
By
Whatever
Means
Necessary
That's
Fun
That's
What
Makes
Hacking
Fun
And
Kudos
To
You
Booter
I
Don't
Care
If
It
Doesn't
Have
To
Be
The
Most
Elegant
New
Breakthrough
Zero
Day
Leet
Exploit
And
Our
Last
Email
Speaking
Of
Default
Somewhat
I
Wonder
What
The
Default
Is
For
Those
Simplex
By
The
Way
I
Don't
Know
The
Default
But
People
Can
Make
It
Really
Easy
To
Memorize
No
Default
Alright
Our
Last
Email
Comes
From
S.
M.E.S.
Who
Says
Hey
Stank
Dog
And
Winter
Mute
I
Am
Sure
That
You
Are
All
Familiar
With
The
Enigma
Machine
Used
In
World
War
II
By
The
Germans
And
Yes
Actually
If
You
Are
Not
Familiar
With
It
You
Might
Want
To
Go
Back
And
Listen
To
OMG
I
Don't
Remember
The
Episode
With
Alanka
We
Had
Alanka
On
To
Talk
About
Cryptography
And
She
Mentioned
That
Along
With
A lot
Of
Other
Great
Stuff
And
Of
Course
You
Can
Search
For
It
And
Probably
Find
A lot
Of
Information
But
Anyway
The
Enigma
Machine
Used
By
World
War
II
By
The
Germans
It
Was
Their
Cutting
Edge
Cryptographic
Device
That
For
A
While
Was
Deemed
To
Be
Uncrackable
That's
Like
A
Hacker's
Favorite
Word
By
The
Way
Oh
I'm
Sorry
Behind
Porn
It
Was
Not
Until
Alan
Turing
Came
Along
And
Built
His
Binary
Computer
That
The
Enigma
Code
Was
Decipher
However
Some
German
Enigma
Operators
Simply
Left
The
Machine
Alphabetic
Code
Gears
On
The
Default
Setting
Of
A
Or
XYZ
And
Left
Them
Set
To
The
Duration
Of
The
War
Post
War
It
Was
Discovered
That
If
The
Operators
Had
Changed
The
Code
Set
Like
They
Were
Supposed
To
Do
The
Enigma
Machines
Code
Would
Have
Been
Impossible
To
Crack
It's
Just
Another
Example
Of
People
In
This
Case
The
Axis
Powers
Getting
Owned
By
Leaving
Their
Technology
Set
Yes
S-M-E-S
You Are
Correct
That
Everything
And I
Mean
Everything
Is
Always
On
Default
It's
Also
Amazing
How
Not
Just
The
Fact
That
They
On
Default
But
How
Amazing
It
Was
If
You
Go
Back
To
The
History
Of
The
Machine
About
How
They
Broke
It
Because
It
Was
A
Bunch
Of
Math
Politicians
Over
In
London
I'll
Just
Give
A
Quick
Snops
So
It won't
Take
A
A lot
Time
No
Go
Over
In
This
Very
I
Think
It
Was
Blenchley
Park
Or
Blenchley
Park
And
They
Would
Just
Sit
There
And
They
Would
Look
At
The
Strings
Of
Code
And
Read
Them
Think
About
Them
And
Then
There
Was
One
Guy
That
I
Don't
Think
It
Was
Turning
I
As
Much
As
He
Wanted
And
If
You
Read
About
The
Ink
Machine
It
Was
An
Amazing
Device
It
Was
So
Simple
It
So
Complex
About
How
It
Would
Reorganize
The
Alphabet
But
He
Was
Able
To
Make
His
Own
Test
Machine
Before
They
Actually
Got
A
Machine
I
Think
During
The
War
They
Did
Steal
One
But
He
Was
Able
To
Basically
As
Soon
As
The
New
Code
Came
Out
Or
As
Soon
As
The
One
He
Couldn't
Translate
Came
Out
He
Would
Start
Working
On
And
Get
It
But
He
Did
Notice
That
Some
Of
These
Codes
Never
Changed
So
It
Became
Easier
And
Easier
To
Fix
The
Machine
Because
They
Could
Pick
Out
A lot
Of
The
German
And
Rewrite
It
So
It
Was
An
Amazing
Job
They
Did
So
Read
About
It
I
Am
Giving
A
Bad
Translation
Of
What
Happened
But
Definitely
Read
About
It
Is
A
Great
Story
And
Probably
That's
Just
A
Cool
Name
To
Me
The
Enigma
Machine
That
Is
Just
So
Mysterious
And
Just
Such
A
Cool
Foreboding
Sounding
I
Don't
Know
I
Just
Love
The
Sound
Of
Saying
Enigma
Machine
And
It's
Just
Further
Proof
And
Like
He
Says
It's
Just
Further
Proof
That
Leaving
Anything
On
Default
Will
Get
You
Componed
Over
And
Over
And
Over
Again
I
Mean
You
Are
Basically
Giving
One
Key
Up
By
Leaving
Something
On
Default
And
One
Key
Ciphers
Don't
Aren't
Effective
They're
Just
Not
That's
No
More
Difficult
Than
The
Little
Orphan
Anti
Decoder
Wheel
Or
You
Know
Well
It's
A
Little
More
It's
A
Little
Bit
Worse
It's
Just
If
You
Don't
It's
Like
It's
Like
Leaving
Key
It's
Like
Not
Changing
The
Key
On
Your
Web
Right
So
Let's
Close
Up
The
Mailbag
Now
I
Think
And
Let's
Move
On
To
Our
Show
And
Tell
Portion
Of
The
Show
And
We
Can't
Do
Let's
See
I'll
Go ahead
And
Start
Off
Because
You're
Going to
Have
To
Do
Show
And
Tell
All
The
Way
Back
To
Episode
26
Last
Time
You
Were
On
And
That
Might
Take
A
While
Yeah
Is
That
You
Leaving
A
Message
On
My
Cell
Phone
Let's
See
Maybe
It's
Crime
Hitting
The
Internet
Again
Hold
On
Let
Me
See
Oh
No
It's
Sports
Crap
Okay
Let's
See
Me
I've
Got
A
Short
One
I
Got
Some
Pretty
Cool
Stuff
In
The
Mail
Today
I
Got
A
Copy
Of
SQL
Server
2005
Preview
Edition
Which
Gives
Me
Interestingly
Now
First
Of
It's
A
DVD
Which
Is
Cool
So
It's
A
Big
Piece
Of
Software
It's
Developer
Edition
It
Is
365
Day
Evaluation
And
It's
32
Bit
Only
So
This
Is
One
Year
So
That's
Good
Evaluation
There
No
More
This
30
Day
Crap
30
Day
60
Day
And
What
Not
So
I'm
Looking
Forward
To
Playing
With
That
As
A
Matter
Of
Fact
I
Might
Jump
On
That
I
Just
Got
It
Today
As
We
Record
I
Might
Be
Using
It
By
The
Time
You
Hear
This
Show
Tuesday
So
I
Also
Got
In
Some
Beta
2s
Of
Visual
Studio
2005
And
I'll
Probably
Play
Around
With
Those
Soon
As
Well
But
I'm
Definitely
Looking
Forward
To
Playing
With
The
SQL
Server
2005
And
Actually
Not
Theory
And
I
Had
A
Good
Little
Discussion
About
This
Earlier
In
The
Week
Because
He
Was
Working
On
A
Project
In
SQL
Server
2000
Of
Course
Which
Is
The
Last
Time
This
Is
2005
And
SQL
Server
2000
It's
A
Little
Old
Than
Now
A
Little
Long
In
The
Tooth
And
We
Were
Talking
About
Some
Functionality
He
Needed
That
Unfortunately
Was
Not
Supported
Or
Not
Built
Into
SQL
Server
2000
So
Kind
Of
Was
Mentioning
That
I'm
Hoping
Or
I'm
Thinking
It
Might
Be
In
The
New
2005
Version
Now
I Can
Confirm
And
Verify
That
But
You
Know
He
Made
An
Excellent
Point
Of
How
Is
It
That
Open
Source
Software
Particularly
Postgres
How
Is
It
That
Open
Source
Software
And
Open
Source
Databases
Are
Out
There
That
Are
More
Advanced
Than
Microsoft
SQL
Server
2000
A
Very
Expensive
Product
Used
In
Production
Facilities
All
Over
The
World
But
It's
Behind
Open
Source
Software
It's
Amazing
But
Anyway
That's
My
Show
And
Tell
I'm
Going
To
Be
Playing
With
That
And
I
Actually
Spent
Some
Me
Time
This
Week
I
Spent
Some
Time
Doing
Some
Other
Stuff
Non
Tech
Related
You
Got
To
Do
That
Once
In
A
While
After
Freak
Factor
I
Went
Out
Sunday
And
Did
A
Little
Drift
Fishing
A
Little
Deep
Sea
Fishing
I
Didn't
Catch
Jack
Squat
Crappy
Fish
But
Was
A
Good
Time
Out
On
The
Ocean
So
I
Kind
Of
Unplugged
For
A
Day
Or
Two
And
Always
Good
To
Do
That
Definitely
Don't
Get
Stuck
In
Front
Of
The
Computer
24
7
Even
Hackers
Have
Their
Limits
You
Got
To
Go
Get
Some
Fresh
Air
And
Some
Exercise
And
That
Kind
Of
Good
Stuff
And
That
Something
That
Duel
Always
Would
Say
A
Lot
And
Go
Fishing
That's
What I
Like
To
Do
Go
To
The
Beach
Go
To
Do
Whatever
It
Is
That
Interests
You
Don't
Sit
In
Doors
All
The
Time
Go
Out
And
Do
Something
Be
Active
I
Was
Momentarily
Possessed
By
Dual
Parallel
What
Can
I
Tell
You
So
How
About
You
What
Do
You
Got
For
Show
And
Tell
You
Don't
Really
Have
To
Go
Back
To
The
26
You
Can
Just
Talk
About
What
You
Are
Working
On
Right
Now
What
Interests
You
Right
Now
Oh
Well
I
Mean
As
A
Lot
Of
People
Know
I
Haven't
Been
Take
As
A
Requisite
I
Had
To
Take
Biochemistry
Class
And
I
Loved
That
Class
I
Really
Might
Want
To
Pursue
That
As
I
Go
On
Right
Now
I
I'm
Actually
Working
For
Notre
Dame
Rewriting
Some
Classes
And
Counseling
A
Camp
At
The
Camp
I
Counselored
Or
The
Camp
I
Was
At
Which
Where
We
Began
Everything
So
Long
Ago
You
Know
What
That's
A
Good
Point
Actually
Live
On
A
Payphone
I
Think
Yeah
It
Was
Live
Out
Of
A
Well
It
Wasn't
A
Payphone
It
Was
A
Real
Phone
Oh
Okay
It
Would
Be
Payphone
Sounded
Like
Crap
No
We
Did
It
Out of
There
That
Was
Like
The
First
Show
I
Think
About
Two
Years
Ago
This
Summer
Yeah
This
I
Think
It
Must
Have
Been
This
Summer
Oh
Yeah
It
Had
To
Yeah
This
Day
Two
This
Summer
It
Was
Great
And
I
Come
Back
To
Counsel
It
So
Yeah
And
I
Have
Just
Been
Working
On
Ham
Radio
Stuff
Which
I
Talk
About
In
A
Minute
Well
Actually
Let's
Go ahead
And
Transition
To
That
Now
Because
That
Is
Our
Main
Topic
For
This
Episode
And
That
Is
Kind
Of
See
The
Thing
And
I
Said
This
Before
And
Actually
I
Feel
Really
Bad
Here
Because
I
Think
Last
Time
You
Were
On
The
Show
I
Had
Said
Back
Then
That
I
Was
Going
To
Start
Studying
To
Get
My
Ham
License
And
I
Still
Haven't
So
Maybe
You're
Going
To
Motivate
Me
To
Buckle
Down
And
Go
I
Actually
Was
Motivated
Enough
To
Try
To
Find
A
Local
Ham
Club
In
My
Area
But
It
Was
One
Of
Those
Dead
Clubs
That
Nobody
Goes
To
That
It
Still
Officially
Existed
But
They
Didn't
Meet
They
Didn't
Do
Anything
They
Didn't
Provide
Any
You
Know
There
Was
No
Place
To
Take
The
Exam
It
Was
Like
It
Was
Just
A
Dead
Scene
So
I
Was
Pretty
Much
On
My
Own
So
That's
Pretty
Much
The
Because
I
Want
To
Go
Off
On
A
Lot
Of
Things
To
Do
So
For
Those
That
Haven't
Heard
The
Previous
Shows
Amateur
Radio
That's
Kind
Of
My
Thing
Outside
Of
Hacking
Or
That
Whole
Genre
But
Amateur
Radio
It's
Basically
It's
Just
Like
Broadcast
Radio
Except
Amateur
Radio
Anyone
Can
Do
It
As
Long
As
They
Pass
A
Test
You
Don't
Broadcast
You
Just
Transit
And
You
Talk
I
Know
The
WBAI
The
Station
That
Runs
Off
The
Hook
And
Off
The
Wall
I
Think
They
Also
Do
Off
The
Wall
They
Transmit
Over
Shortwave
And
Tons
Of
Broadcast
If
You
Get
A
Short
Radio
Shack
Or
Flea
Market
You
Have
A
Ton
Of
Fun
With
It
I
Just
Shirts
Online
For
Shortwave
You
You'll
Find
A
Ton
Of
Stuff
But
Amateur
Radio
Is
Another
One
Of
Things
I
Really
Enjoy
Because
It
Really
Together
With
What
I
Want
To
Do
With
The
Rest
Of
My
Life
Being
Electrical
Engineering
And
Everything
But
At
College
Where
I
Amateur
Is
Pretty
Big
And
I
Helping
The
Guys
Out
Working
And
Making
The
There's
A
Club
Here
And
I
Helping
Those
Guys
Out
You
Know
Start
To
Get
It
Going
And
Everything
I
Met
A
Ton
Of
Fun
About
A
Year
Go
Just
Before
I
Went
To
College
I
Passed
My
General
There's
Three
Tests
For
Amateur
There's
The
Tech
License
The
General
License
And
The
Amateur
Extra
License
And
I
Passed
My
General
License
Beginning
Of
College
That's
The
One
That
Requires
The
Morse
Code
That
That's
A
Stumbling
Block
For
People
But
That
Might
Be
Going
Waste
And
There's
Talk
About
Removing
That
A
Lot
Countries
Don't
Require
Morse
Code
Anymore
So
America
Might
Be
Going
That
Direction
Too
So
Watch
Out
For
That
Eventually
It
Will
Be
Going
Away
A
Lot
Of
Test
It
Is
More
About
The
Written
Part
Of
The
Test
There
Are
Multiple
Choice
And
All
The
Questions
Are
Available
Online
And
There's
A
Lot
Of
Websites
That
I
Can
Put
In
Show
Notes
Later
On
That
I
Can
Give
You
Links
To
That
Will
Help
You
100%
And
Books
And
Everything
There's
A lot
Of
People
Out
There
That
Want
You
To
Pass
And
Once
You
Never
Go
Away
As
Long
As
You
Find
Their
Niche
On
Amateur
Radio
And
You'll
Love
It
So
Right
Now
I'm
Actually
Prepping
For
The
Amateur
Extra
Final
Test
It's
A
Longer
Test
Than
The
First
Two
It's
About
50
Questions
And
It's
A lot
More
Theory
It's
Actually
Funny
The
Stuff
That
You
Can
Learn
Is
What
I'm
Going
To
Be
Learning
About
Next
Year
There's
A
Very
Large
Question
Pool
So
Once
You
Learn
It
You'll
Have
It
For
The
Time
For
The
Test
So
Don't
Worry
About
That
And
The
First
Test
Is
Really
Very
Easy
Very
Basic
There's
35
Questions
You
Need
To
Get
A
D
Or
About
60
Or
70
Percent
On
It
To
Pass
And
Don't
Worry
About
It
Once
You
Got
It
You're
All
Set
And
How
Long
Does
That
Much
I
Mean
Unless
You
Break
The
Law
Then
They
Revoke
Your
License
Right
And
But
And
They
Fine
You
I've
Read
A
Lot
Of
Reports
About
People
Being
Fined
A
Lot
Of
Money
I
Mean
The
One
Thing
People
Said
Is
If
You're
Going
To
Get
The
Amateur
Radio
Don't
Do
Pirate
Radio
Or
Anything
Because
If
You
Get
Caught
Doing
Pirate
Radio
And
You
Have
An
Amateur
Radio
Since
You're
Going
To
Get
In
Big
Trouble
So
I
Mean
If
Radio
Is
Your
Thing
And
You
Want
To
Be
Legit
About
It
Or
Make
It
Your
Life
You
Want
To
Dedicate
Something
And
Make
It
A
Real
Hobby
Then
Stick
Being
Legal
I
Mean
There's
A lot
Of
People
In
It
That
Do
Gray
Area
Things
Which
Is
Okay
But
Don't
Go
Don't
Go
A
Kilow
Out
Of
Your
Trump
Transcending
Over
Some
Big
Broadcast
Radio
Station
Or
You
Will
Get
Caught
Right
And
There
Is
Actually
A
Lot
Of
Emphasis
When
I
Was
Studying
Some
Of
This
There's
A
Lot
Of
Emphasis
On
Ethics
Yeah
There's
A lot
Of
Ethics
And
A lot
Of
Things
There's
A lot
Of
Safety
Issues
Too
There's
Whole
Entire
Sections
Of
The
On
Safety
Issues
About
How
Much
Power
Am
To
Have
And
They're
Very
Strict
About
It
But
They
Do
Give
You
A
Lot
Of
Freedom
As
Long
As
Long
As
You
Stay
Within
Those
Bounds
And
You
Can
Bend
I
Mean
There's
A lot
Of
Bending
To
Which
You'll
Find
Out
Once
You
Get
Into
It
If
You
Get
Into
It
Serious
Enough
You
Will
Get
Into
A lot
Of
The
Cooler
Aspects
That
Aren't
Exactly
The
Right
The
Right
Things
To
Do
But
You
Have
A
Lot
Of
Fun
So
I'll
Go
On
Last
Weekend
If
Anyone
This
Is
Actually
A
Very
Big
Swap
Meet
It's
Called
The
Dayton
Ham
Fest
They
Call
It
The
Mecca
Of
Ham
Fest
A
Ham
Fest
Is
Like
A
Swap
Meet
For
Technical
Amateur
Radio
Or
Computer
Stuff
It's
Becoming
Very
Broad
Now
Nowadays
I
Went
There
Two
Years
With
A
Friend
Of
Marketers
There's
A
Main
Place
For
Real
Retail
To
Go
Along
And
Real
Businesses
To
Come
In
And
The
Real
Radio
Makers
Show
Off
Their
New
Products
But
Then
There's
The
Whole
Parking
Lot
Which
Is
Filled
With
Just
Junk
I
Mean
It
Was
Like
Think
Of
Like
If
You
Could
Condense
All
Of
The
Crap
You
Have
Like
Everyone
All
The
Listen
Have
In
Their
House
And
Put
Into
One
Parking
Lot
And
That
You
Just
And
Then
Multiply
Five
Times
Ten
Because
It's
Insane
And
I
Mean
I
Saw
Everything
There
And
Actually
Along
With
Things
I
Saw
I
Met
A
Lot
Of
Good
People
I
Met
The
President
Of
The
Amateur
Radio
Relay
League
ARRL
They
Kind
Of
Run
They
Kind
Of
The
Voice
Some
People
Consider
Them
A
Good
Voice
But
They
Are
A
Voice
For
Amateur
Radio
It's
Kind
Of
It's
Just
A
Club
That
People
Join
And
You
Donate
Money
To
But
They're
Always
Kind
Of
Active
In
Lobbying
Things
For
Amateur
Radio
And
Funny
Enough
I
Saw
Emmanuel
Goldstein
There
And
I
Talked
To
About
A
Minute
Yeah
Don't
Actually
I
Think
Quite
A
Few
Of
The
2600
Guys
For
Lack
Of
A
Better
Or
2600
People
I
Thought
Quite
A
Few
Of
Them
Actually
Go
To
That
Yeah
Bernie
If
You
Go
Back
Way
Back
Into
Some
Old
Off
The
Hooks
There's
I
Think
Actually
If
Root
Secure
I
Haven't
Been
There
In
A
While
But
Root
Secure
Has
Some
Recordings
Of
Them
Talking
About
It
Pretty
Interesting
But
Go
To
You
Go
Over
And
See
Root
Secure
Go
Over
There
Great
Site
But
He's
Got
Some
If
You
Go
To
MP3
Or
Audio
Recordings
He'll
Talk
About
That
It's
Very
Funny
I
Was
Just
Running
Into
Them
It's
Pretty
Funny
And
Then
I
Also
When
You
Go
To
Dayton
You
Plan
On
Spending
A lot
Of
Money
Usually
You
Crack
Under
The
Pressure
Of
All
The
Junk
That
You
Need
To
Have
Right
But
It's
Not
Necessarily
Expensive
It's
Actually
Pretty
Reasonable
Cheap
Priced
Items
That
Are
Out
There
Right
It's
Just
That
You
Want
So
Much
Of
It
Yeah
I
Mean
There's
A lot
Of
Things
If
You
Have
The
Patience
That
You
Know
What
You're
Looking
For
You
Can
Find
It
Cheap
Enough
I
Mean
A lot
Of
People
Jack
Priced
I
There's
A lot
Of
They're
Very
Cheap
Right
So
I
Mean
You
Just
Gotta
Look
Around
The
Flea
Market
I
Mean
I
Didn't
Trust
The
People
But
It
Modification
Where
You
Open
It
Up
To
Do
More
Than
It
Was
Supposed
To
And
If
You
Read
Online
One
Great
Site
For
Mods
That
I
Always
Talk
About
Mods
That
Dk
That's
A
Wonderful
Website
For
Finding
Mods
On
Any
Radio
That
You
Could
Possibly
Imagine
Just
Doing
Different
Things
Opening
Up
Quite
A
Bit
Of
Money
There
But
It
Was
Well
Worth
It
Because
A
Lot
Of
Useful
Things
Which
Moves
Me
On
To
My
Next
Topic
Well
Before
We
Leave
Before
We
Leave
Hamvention
Here
Let
Me
Ask
A
Couple
Questions
Here
Do
They
Have
I
Realize
That
Of
Course
It's
More
For
Hammies
For
The
Hammers
But
I
Don
Know
If
Those
If
That's
An
Impolite
Term
Or
Not
But
Do
They
Have
Much
In
The
Way
Of
Computers
And
Other
Electronic
Stuff
There
Because
I
Always
Thought
That's
A
Good
Question
I
People
That
Did
Leave
Were
The
Computer
People
So
I
Mean
You
Can
Find
The
Computer
Stuff
A
Lot
Of
People
Outside
In
The
Swap
Market
Were
Selling
Cisco
Switches
And
I
Mean
Any
Kind
Of
From
Places
That
Have
Like
Been
Liquidated
And
They're
Getting
Rid
Of
All
The
Stuff
There's
Actually
A lot
Of
Liquidation
Out
There
There's
A lot
Of
You
Know
Power
I
Mean
Just
There's
A lot
Of
UPS
A lot
Of
You
Know
Una durable
Power
Supplies
A lot
Of
Just
Kind
Of
Crap
Really
That
Would
Come
Out
Of
Like
A
Junk
Store
Or
Something
Right
Which
Is
Sometimes
Really
Fun
Though
Yeah
You'll
Find
A lot
Of
Things
If
You
Need
A lot
Of
Cables
You'll
Find
Cables
Dirt
Cheap
The
Things
That
I
Was
Looking
For
Were
A lot
More
High
End
If
You
Just
Need
Basic
Stuff
That's
Where
You
Go
Yeah
And
That's
Very
Good
To
Mention
That
Yeah
These
They
Have
I've
Been
To
Some
Of
The
Computer
Oriented
Ones
Less
From
The
Ham
And
More
The
Computer
And
That's
Definitely
Where
You
Get
Cables
Adapters
Little
Things
Like
That
You
Can
Buy
Them
Online
It
May
Cost
You
A
Couple
Of
Plus
Shipping
Or
You
Can
Go
To
These
Places
Like
The
Ham
Ventions
Etcetera
Computer
Shows
Local
And
You
Can
Get
Them
For
$25
Or
Three
For
A
Dollar
Or
Just
Ridiculous
There's
A lot
Of
Things
There
That
You
Might
Go
Online
You
Go
To
Best
Buy
And
It
Cost
You
Like
$20
Right
But
I
Saw
Fire
Wired
Cables
There
For
Like
$2
Or
$1
And
You
Don't
Pay
Any
Shipping
And
You
Don't
Pay
Any
Tax
So
It's
A
Deal
Good
Stuff
Good
Now
One
Other
Question
This
Is
More
Of
A
Sales
Thing
It's
Made
For
The
Booths
Inside
With
The
Real
Vendors
And
Stuff
And
The
Swap
Shop
Outdoor
Garage
Sale
Type
Stuff
Do
They
Have
Or
Do
They
Offer
Are
There
Any
Kind
Of
Classes
Slash
Presentations
Like
At
A
Hacking
Convention
It's
Kind of
Like
It's
Kind
Like
Hope
In
A
Way
Because
They
Have
A
Lot
Of
What
Would
I
Say
It
Like
They
Have
A
Lot
Of
What
Is
The
Word
I'm
Looking
For
Like
You
Know
Panel
Discussion
And
Stuff
There
Do
They
Have
A
Schedule
They
Offer
The
Test
There
And
Stuff
So
They
Have
A
Lot
Of
Those
Things
Right
I
Would
Hope
That
They
Offer
The
Tests
On
Location
If
People
Wanted
To
Do
That
Would
That
Would
Be
Kind
Of
Neat
But
I
Didn't
Did
They
Actually
Have
A
Schedule
And
A
List
Of
Presenters
And
Times
Or
Is
It
Maybe
Just
Two
Or
Oh
Yeah
The
Reason
The
Reason
The
President
The
ARRL
Was
There
Because
The
ARRL
Made
Their
Convention
Along
With
Simultaneous
At
The
Dayton
Ham
Venture
So
Yeah
It's
All
Worked
Out
There's
A
Big
Schedule
Beforehand
And
You
Show
Up
To
Your
Certain
Panel
On
Satellite
Work
So
There's
A lot
Of
Stuff
There
Interesting
And
Do
You
Have
Any
Ballpark
Numbers
Of
How
Many
People
Show
Up
To
This
Thing
I
We
Don't
Know
If
They
Started
At
Zero
But
Yeah
The
Dayton
One
Is
The
Biggest
One
I
Think
We
Know
That
Is
Definitely
The
Biggest
Show
You
Can
Go
To
Right
But
However
Look
In
Your
Area
There
Are
Local
Ones
I
Know
There's
One
In
Miami
Down
Here
I
Know
There's
There
Have
Them
In
Other
Places
So
Check
Out
When
One's
Local
To
You
And
Go
Check
It
Out
Yeah
I
Talk
About
That
More
I
Mean
You
Look
If
You
Go
Look
Online
For
Clubs
For
In
Your
Area
On
The
ARRL
Website
Which
I'll
Link
To
In
The
Show
Notes
There's
Just
A
Search
For
You
Put
In
Your
Zip
Code
I
Think
I
I've
Mentioned
This
A lot
Before
Put
Your
Zip
Code
In
The
Local
ARRL
Affiliated
Clubs
Almost
All
Clubs
Do
Once
A
Year
Hand
Fest
To
Raise
Funding
For
The
Club
So
You
Go
There
And
You
Can
Find
Anything
You
Need
Computer
Wise
I
Guarantee
It
Cool
Alright
Good
Stuff
Now
Let's
Move
Out
Of
The
Hand
Fest
Stuff
And
You
Wanted
To
Talk
About
Some
Actual
Application
Stuff
One
Of
Things
I
Found
I
Was
A
Skeptical
At
First
In
Amateur
Radio
But
I
Found
Out
That
It's
Been
Really
Fun
I
Talk
About
I
Like
The
One
Thing
I
Really
Like
About
Amateur
Is
Talking
To
People
Very
Far
Distances
That's
The
Thing
With
Short
Wave
But
There's
Another
Thing
I
Mentioned
Before
IRLP
The
Internet
Radio
Linking
Project
That's
Online
You
Can
Go
To
RLP
Or
Some
Of
The
Old
Episodes
I
Think
The
First
Episode
Of
RFA
If
You
Can
Find
It
Not
The
First
Episode
First
One
But
The
First
One
I
Was
On
Which
Is
In
The
20s
I
Actually
Did
A
Little
IRLP
Segment
So
We
Go
There
And
Listen
To
It
If
You
Want
To
Get
Inter
Sparked
And
All
The
Stuff
I
The
One
Thing
I
Want
To
Talk
About
Now
Is
Satellite
Operations
And
Microwave
Later
On
But
Satellite
Work
As
You
Know
There's
Satellite
TV
These
Days
They
Have
Satellite
Internet
That's
Extremely
Expensive
And
Totally
A
Lot
Of
Latency
On
There
So
Don't
Buy
Satellite
Radio
Or
I
Mean
Don't
Buy
Satellite
Internet
Unless
You
Really
Need
It
But
I
Mean
X
Serious
Radio
Satellite
There's
Another
Thing
There
And
There's
Amateur
Radio
Satellites
Have
You
Ever
Heard
Of
That
Think
I
Actually
You
Told
Me
A
Little
Bit
About
It
Before
But
Beyond
That
I
Have
Done
No
Research
On
It
Yeah
So
Amateur
Radio
Satellites
They're
The same
Things
They're
Just
Satellites
That
Are
Up
There
Are
Different
Orbits
Around
The
Planet
I
Mean
There's
No
Geosynchronous
From
What
I
Know
And
What
I
Talk
To
There's
No
Geosynchronous
Amateur
Satellite
Because
It's
A
Very
Expensive
Place
To
Sit
In
That's
Where
All
The
Direct
TV
Sits
In
But
It's
Very
Expensive
To
Sit
There
Because
There's
So
Many
That
Want
To
Be
There
You
Sit
There
In
Space
Huh
You
Sit
There
In
Space
Yeah
Well
Geosynchronous
Okay
I
Should
Explain
Terminology
Geosynchronous
Means
It
Stays
In
One
Place
It
Follows
The
Rotation
Of
The
Earth
At
All
Times
So
You
Always
At
A
Direct
TV
Right
So
It
Is
A
Fixed
Place
In
Orbit
Around
The
Earth
That
You
Can
Count
On
It
But
It
Goes
With
The
Orbit
Of
The
Earth
Right
Exactly
Yeah
Okay
And
Also
Just
To
Clarify
Earlier
You
Mention
RFA
And
Of
Course
Most
Listeners
Know
That
Radio
Freak
America
You're
Referring
To
That
You
Can
Check
Out
At
Old
School
Freak
Dot
Com
Yeah
There's
A lot
Of
Links
I
Don't
Think
They
Carry
All
The
Sites
But
There's
A lot
Of
For
All
Of
The
Shows
Go
Search
Mute
In
The
House
Or
Meet
Just
Search
MUT3
On
That
You'll
Find
Me
And
One
Of
The
Show
And
Listened
To
That
First
Episode
Yeah
We
Do
Have
All
Of
The
Shows
Up
And
Available
Now
So
They
Should
All
Be
There
And
We
Actually
Relaunched
A
Podcast
And
I
Don't
Know
If
You've
Been
Made
Aware
Of
The
Earth
But
And
This
Is
Where
The
Amateur
Radio
Comes
In
So
You
Have
Your
Satellite
And
Just
A
Basic
Premise
Of
A
Satellite
There
Is
A
Problem
Today
If
You
Have
An
Antenna
On
The
Top
Of
Your
House
You
Waves
That
Bounce
Off
Of
Different
Parts
Of
The
Ionosphere
Of
The
Earth
There
Is
Different
Bands
If
You
Search
Ionosphere
Of
The
Earth
Online
And
You'll
Give
Better
Explanation
But
Because
Of
The
Sun
Certain
The
Radio
Waves
Can
Stay
Within
The
Circle
Of
The
Sphere
Of
The
Earth
They
Bounce
Off
This
Kind
Of
Almost
Bouncing
Of
Cloud
But
They
Are
Not
Cloud
But
Different
Rings
And
They
Can
Bounce
Off
And
Go
Around
And
That
Is
What
Makes
These
High
Frequency
And
HF
And
Short
Waves
So
Powerful
That
You
Can
Go
All
The
Way
Around
The
Earth
With
Them
But
So
To
Overcome
This
You
Can't
Use
HF
For
Everything
You
Need
More
Bandwidth
And
More
Power
So
You
Need
To
Use
More
Megahertz
To
Transmit
More
Data
Because
There
Is
A
Limit
To
It's
Geosynchronous
You
Could
Just
Send
Data
To
It
And
Relay
Data
To
Everyone
Else
So
There
Satellites
Pointed
There
Dishes
Pointed
At
Satellites
That
Send
Data
Up
To
It
And
The
Satellite
Spits
It
All
Back
Down
To
America
For
instance
So
The
Same
Principle
Happens
Here
There
Satellites
That
Orbit
The
Earth
That
Are
Called
Amateur
Satellites
Or
OSCARS
Operational
Satellites
Carrying
Amateur
Or
Some
Acronym
Like
That
And
You
Can
Go
To
As
I
Said
This
Will
Be
The
Site
Of
The
Night
Act
Or
Site
Of
The
Week
Called
AMSAT
Org
You
Go
There
You
Find
Everything
You
Ever
Want
To
Know
About
Satellites
And
I
Just
Do
Because
They
Do
Some
Awesome
Work
They
Put
The
Satellites
Up
There
So
The
Thing
Is
These
Satellites
Are
Really
High
Up
In
There
I
Mean
Some
Of
Them
They
Average
Thousand
Meters
Up
There
So
That
Is
Pretty
High
So
You
Throw
Them
Up
There
And
You
Can
Point
A
Very
Directional
Antenna
At
It
Like
You
Have
Satellite
Dishes
For
Dish
Network
And
All
Those
Things
And
You
Point
A
Highly
Directional
Antenna
At
It
And
You
Can
Send
Signals
To
It
So
That
Is
What
They
Online
You
Can
Get
A
Program
That
Tell
You
The
Path
Of
The
Satellite
Because
As
I
Said
Before
They
Are
Not
Geosynchronous
So
They
Follow
An
Arc
Across
The
Sky
So
There
Is
A
Lot
Of
Software
Out
There
Some
It
Is
Pretty
Expensive
Just
Depending
On
How
Cool
It
Looks
But
You
Can
Tell
Where
The
Satellite
Is
Going
To
Come
Over
The
You
Can
You
Don't
Realize
How
Cool
It
Is
Until
You
Do
It
Because
You
Are
Hearing
People
Across
The
Country
With
A
Normal
Amateur
Repeater
Or
Something
That
Local
You
Can
Only
Go
So
Far
Maybe
50
Miles
These
Satellites
Cover
The
Continent
Or
Even
Mexico
And
Canada
You
Can
Talk
To
Anyone
Up
There
That
Under
The
Footprint
Of
The
Of
The
Satellite
At
The
Moment
So
It
Is
Really
Cool
Very
Good
Stuff
Now
Is
That
What
Kind
Of
Equipment
Do
You
Need
To
Get
Started
On
That
Because
That
Is
A
Little
Bit
Different
Than
That
Is
Yeah
I
Mean
First
Of
I
Mean
For
Any
Kind
Of
Amateur
You
Need
A
Decent
Hand
Hold
Radio
Or
A
Decent
Base
Station
Radio
I
Mean
That
Is
Going
to
Be
Some
Cost
That
Could
Be
$100
Or
$50
Depending
On
Where
You
Get
It
From
How
Much
Features
It
Has
And
What
Kind
Of
Use
It
Has
I
Also
Recommend
Getting
A
Scanner
A
Radio
Scanner
That
Can
Be
Bought
On
Ebay
Pretty
Nicely
About
$50
Or
$50
You
Don't
Need
Anything
Fancy
You
Don't
Need
Anything
New
Right
Now
But
For
These
Satellites
They
Operate
On
Different
Frequencies
So
You
Might
Send
On
A
Different
Frequency
And
Then
Receive
On
A
Completely
Different
Frequency
Different
Bands
There
Is
The
144
MHz
Band
And
They
Might
Receive
The
Frequency
On
The
440
MHz
Band
Or
Something
Like
That
So
They
Are
Wildly
Different
So
I
Mean
What
I
Did
Was
Why
I
Spent
So
Much
Money
Was
Because
I
Got
A
Nice
Compact
System
That
You
Know
That
Sends
A
Signal
Out
There
And
I
Receive
It
Very
Well
But
You
Don't
Spend
That
Much
Money
On
It
If
You
Go
On
That
Website
As
Before
They
Tell
You
What
You
Need
To
Get
You
Can
Do
It
With
A
Scanner
And
A
Cheap
Radio
Maybe
$100
To
$150
For
The
Entire
Thing
Depending
On
You
Can
Get
A
Scanner
And
Listen
To
Amateur
You
Have
Stuff
You
Can
Spend
Maybe
$100
And
Just
Listen
To
This
Stuff
Right
Yeah
That's
A
Good
Point
That's
A
Good
Point
Of
Clarification
It's
Just
The
Broadcasting
Yeah
It's
The
Transmitting
Excuse
Me
Right
Yeah
It's
The
Transmit
That
Cost
The
Money
Because
You're
Setting
It
Up
There
I
Had
To
Buy
A
Nice
Direct
Antenna
That's
Kind
Of
Lightweight
I
Always
Go
Mobile
So
That
I
Can
Be
Portable
With
But
I
Don't
Have
To
Be
Tied
Down
To
Because
Again
The
Tied
Down
Stuff
Cost
A
Lot
More
Money
So
I
Bought
That
Thing
So
I
Can
Be
Around
I
Can
Show
People
Stuff
So
Yeah
Very
Cool
Very
Cool
All
Right
Well
We
Are
Pretty
Much
Full
For
The
Show
We've
Got
A
Little
Bit
Of
Time
If
You
Wanted
To
Touch
On
Anything
Else
Yeah
I
Just
Wanted
To
If
You're
Still
Interested
In
Amateur
Radio
I'll
Link
To
The
Website
To
Tell
You
Where
Amateur
Radio
Clubs
Are
At
But
The
Last
Day
Of
This
Month
Last
Weekend
In
June
Is
Amateur
Radio
Field
Day
Which
Is
This
Big
Thing
It
24
Hours
Long
It
Is
To
Mirror
A
Emergency
Communication
Things
Where
If
Something
Bad
Happened
You
Need
Amateur
Radio
Quickly
This
Is
What
It
Is
A
Big
Contest
Everyone
Gets
On
The
Air
Everyone
Operates
An
Emergency
Power
And
They
Make
As
Many
Contacts
As
Possible
Within
24
Hours
So
Usually
There
Is
Demo
So
You
Can
Go
And
Do
Amateur
Radio
Right
There
You
Don't
Need
A
License
Because
Of
The
Rules
Of
How
It
Works
As
I'll
Link
It
Later
On
Tonight
But
I'll
Show
You
Where
It's
Very
Easy
To
Get
There
And
Get
Involved
Very
Quickly
All
Yeah
Great
You
Got
A lot
Of
Good
Links
That
You're
Going
To
Send
Me
And
We'll
Put
Them
Up
In
The
Show
Notes
As
Soon
As
Possible
And
I
Guess
The
Biggest
One
In
Our
Official
Site
Of
The
Week
As
You
Said
Earlier
Is
Amsat
Dot
Yeah
I
Mean
They
Just
Search
Amateur
Radio
Satellites
I
Mean
I
Got
Very
Interested
I
Collected
About
Five
Or
Six
Bookmarks
And
About
Ten
Pages
About
All
This
Stuff
I
Mean
It's
Very
Experimental
I
Mean
A
Lot
Of
People
Not
Experimental
In
That
It's
New
But
Experimental
In
That
A
Lot
Of
People
It's
Very
Easy
To
Work
With
Because
The
Stuff
Really
Once
You
Get
The
Microwave
As
I
Said
Before
It's
Not
That
Expensive
It's
Actually
Kind of
Come
Full
Circle
I
Mean
Back
When
As
A
Kid
Playing
With
The
Wireless
802.11b
And
Building
All
That
Stuff
It
Comes
Full
Circle
Or
I'm
Coming
Back
Up
To
Commercial
Grade
Stuff
So
Pretty
Interesting
Yep
Good
Stuff
Alright
Well
Let's
Start
Closing
It
Out
This
Week
We
Did
The
Side
Of
The
Week
Already
Remind
Everybody
That
We
Have
2,600
Meetings
Coming
Up
This
Week
Are
You
I
Know
That
You
Been
Kind
Of
Focusing
On
College
And
Stuff
Like
That
Do
You
Even
Do
You
Ever
Attend
Anymore
At
All
When
I'm
In
Chicago
I
Always
Go
As
Long
As
I
Love
It
We
Kind
Of
Move
Places
We
Been
To
A
Better
Place
Now
Not
A
Bar
But
A
Better
Place
To
Even
Mute
Here
Who
Is
Unplugged
From
A
Lot
Of
Other
Things
To
Concentrate
On
College
And
What
Not
Still
Finds
A
Day
Out
Of
Each
Month
Or
As
Many
As
He
Can
To
Go
To
Go
To
Go
To
Whatever
Whether
It's
2600
Meeting
A
DEF CON
Meeting
Again
A
Find
Something
See
If
They're
Active
See
Where
They're
Meeting
And
Go
Check
It
Out
And
Shouts
Why
Don't
You
Start
Us
Off
With
Shouts
This
Week
You
Got
Any
Shout
Out
Yeah
I
Got
Some
Shouts
Shout
Out
To
My
Best
Friend
E
To
The
site
That
The
Music
Comes
From
The
Opsound
And
The
Software
I
Never
Mentioned
The
Software
Before
The
Satellite
There
There's
A
Software
Free
It's
Actually
Included
I
Think
It's
Actually
Standard
On
Debian
It's
Called
Predict
P-R-E-D-I-C-T
It's
Text
Based
Type
It
Where
You
Can
Actually
Plug
All
That
Data
Into
A
Program
That
Will
Plot
It
For
You
And
You
Can
See
It
In
Pseudo
Real
Time
So
Yeah
Okay
Yeah
I'm
Glad
You
Glad
You
Remembered
To
Mention
The
Software
My
Shouts
This
Week
Go
To
Bland
Inquisitor
I
Spoke
To
Him
The
Other
Day
And
He's
Doing
Very
Well
Cypher
X
To
Mr.
V
Tech
And
To
Anyone
I've
Done
That
I
Listen
To
Most
Shows
While
I'm
At
Work
And
Coding
I'm
In
My
Headphones
While
Everyone
Around
Me
Drones
And
Buzzes
Around
Doing
Their
Thing
And
Listening
To
Music
Or
Whatever
And
I'm
Trying
To
Multitask
And
Educate
Myself
By
Listening
To
Talk
Radio
And
Listening
To
Online
Talk
Radio
And
Coding
Etc
So
I
Hope
We
Help
You
All
Make
It
Through
The
Day
I
Know
It's
Very
Beneficial
To
Me
As
A
Listener
To
Do
That
And
Of
Course
This
Is
Monday
That
We're
Recording
This
You're
Hearing
This
On
Tuesday
So
It's
Probably
A
Day
Late
When
You
Hear
This
But
You
Know
I
Have
To
Give
Shouts
Out
And
I
Do
This
Every
Year
To
All
The
Veterans
Out
There
This
Is
Memorial
Day
And
I
Give
Shouts
And
Thanks
Genuine
Thanks
To
Everyone
Out
There
Because
People
That
Are
Out
There
Doing
This
And
The
Veterans
Out
There
They're
The
Reason
That
I
Have
The
Freedom
To
Do
This
Show
Every
Week
In
And
Week
Out
They're
The
People
That
Have
Given
Me
The
Ability
And
Given
Me
The
Freedom
To
Do
This
Show
So
The
Biggest
Shouts
Of
All
To
Them
Happy
Memorial
Day
And
Thank
You
And
Our
Closing
Music
Mentioned
A
Minute
A
Alcorine
And
It's
Called
Precinct
One
And
That
Is
Going
To
Do
It
So
I'm
Glad
We
Were
Able
To
Catch
Up
First
Of
All
I
Mean
It
Took
Almost
100
Episodes
No
I
Guess
It
Took
About
75
Episodes
Or
Somewhere
About
Before
We
Were
Able
To
Get
It
Back
Together
Again
But
It
Was
Definitely
For
The
Right
Doing
Good
Stuff
For
Us
And
We're
Very
Proud
That
You're
Doing
That
And
Of
Course
You
Do
Pop
In
Once
In
A
While
Whenever
The
Forms
Are
Working
That
Is
So
We're
Keeping
In
Touch
And
We
Still
Hear
From
You
And
Talk
To
You
Occasionally
So
Good
To
Have
You
Back
On
The
Show
Again
And
I
Think
That
Is
Going
To
Do
It
For
Episode
98
Of
Binary
Revolution
Radio
So
We
Tell
Everybody
How
Do
We
End
The
Show
Now
I'll
Let
You
Start
At
This
Time
Since
It's
Been
So
Long
Alright
So
You
Know
We'll
See you
Next
Week
On
The
Same
Hack
Time
And
The
Same
Hack
Channel
Bo
Time
Bye
Love
Bye
Morning
Bye
We have been planning on the attempt to storm it, so the weather is going to air with clear skies.
This is the West Wing, it's predicted tomorrow arrival.
This is the West Wing.