This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you and a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dream packs
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
To CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the creepers
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RAMs, SIPs, SIPs
This is dedicated to the hackers and the crack
Asuka, you the ones you need to przez this
That's where you look for for many used esempio
And long before you use this
Asuka, you should see because you keep an eye out there
And you lose it
The люди and socials are protected
And always just make sure
You stretch them up in your ability
And if you want to knock us out there
Or think about you
That's your mind
THE END
104 of Binary Revolution Radio.
Two years bringing you hacking, news, information, techniques, tips, how-tos, advice, opinions,
and a few dick and fart jokes mixed in along the way.
And I am StankDawg joining you again for this momentous episode.
Two years, 104 episodes every week, non-stop for the most part.
For the last two years, we have been coming to you, trying to share in some knowledge, spreading the knowledge and the fun and the joy that is hacking, setting some minds straight on what hacking is and is not, educating people, and just overall trying to have fun in the world of hacking.
And we hope that you continue to listen to the show as we continue on into the future.
But on this episode, we thought instead of looking to the future, we would take a look back to our past.
Kind of a walk down memory lane, if you will.
Because many of you long-time listeners probably realize that Binary Revolution Radio may have started two years ago.
But the DDP has been around longer than that, and we've been doing a lot of other projects before Binary Revolution Radio started.
And there were other radio shows before Binary Revolution Radio started.
So we'd really have to look back to the old Radio Freak America days to really look back at some of the first attempts at hacking radio and freaking radio.
Radio Freak America from OldSchoolFreak.com was a show started by our good friend Dual Parallel, DDP member, very good friend of mine.
And Rax, the same thing goes for him, and some guys from Phoenix, 2600 meeting, Condor, and started a little show called Radio Freak America.
And as Dual and I became friends, I also became part of that show, something I'm very proud of and happy with,
and kind of broke new ground, if you will, in the content and the type of material that we covered on the radio show.
And as that went along, we realized that, you know what, there are other people that are interested in this,
and we kind of wanted to branch out and kind of make another show that was really focused more on the tech.
And that show, of course, came to be what you know today as Binary Revolution Radio.
Both shows fantastic, that it was great when they were both around for a while.
Radio Freak America ended its run at episode 99, and a lot of people thought that might also happen with Binary Revolution Radio,
yet here we are, once again, episode 104, two seasons continuous, and an accomplishment that I personally am very proud of.
And hopefully we can keep putting out good shows consistently into the future.
Now, as part of this walk down memory lane, we thought we'd kind of go back and visit the past a little bit, if you will,
and touch base with a lot of our former co-hosts and kind of talk about the show and how far we've come over the years.
I mean, back in the early days of RFA, we thought it was just the coolest thing ever when we had, you know,
we'd break one or two hundred downloads of the show.
You know, it was a small community of friends.
It was just some of us who liked hacking and who were of like mind and wanted to just have fun and, you know,
make a radio show to try to maybe educate people, try to share our fun and enthusiasm about hacking with other people.
And as the show continued to grow and grow, it kind of took us by surprise.
It was just an amazing phenomenon to see this happen.
And later on, as Binary Revolution Radio spun out of that, it continued to also grow and gain a lot of new listeners.
Majority of this still came from word of mouth.
We've never really been too big into going out and promoting the show so much.
It was just people who would tune in and hopefully enjoyed it or hated it.
As long as they still tuned in, they were hopefully getting something out of the show.
And to this day, we're continuing to grow into season two.
And as season three begins next week and beyond, all of this thing, all of these things kind of taken into consideration
has really built something that, once again, I'm just very, very proud and fortunate and honored to have been a part of.
I'm shocked and amazed that we have reached the level that we have and the number of listeners that we have.
And individually, every single one of you, whether we've spoken personally or whether I know you on an individual basis,
if you're just one of those listeners who listens in headphones at work and has never emailed us or contacted us,
you just listen to the podcast, or you're one of the listeners or one of our good friends who actually does contact us
and help us out with projects and hang out in the forums and things like that,
we appreciate each and every one of you.
One thing that I've always maintained through all of this is that the show is still supposed to be two things,
it's educational and fun.
And we try our best to keep both of those things going.
And as I said before, hopefully we can continue to do that.
And also, not only do I have to thank the listeners and the supporters we've had,
but I also have to thank all of the co-hosts that we've had over the years.
You know, some amazing people with some amazing experiences and just incredible knowledge and information.
Honestly, some of the most intelligent people I've ever met in my life.
And I've had the good fortune of being able to not only work with them and combine our talents and skills on projects
and having fun, but you know what, just developing friendships that are going to span years and years
and go outside of any radio show or any individual project.
I've met people that I consider some of my closest friends in the world.
And, you know, that's something else that's just fantastic about doing a show like this
and about this community in general.
It has its ups and downs.
And sometimes events happen and things come along and people have to come and go and leave the scene
and things like that because real life is still the most important thing.
But you know what?
Hacking is a part of who you are.
And I think as we kind of continue through the show, I think you'll notice that that is an ongoing theme.
What we're going to do is we're going to kind of talk to some of the co-hosts that we've had over time, over the years.
Some of them we've heard many times.
Some of them we've only heard once or twice.
But all of us who have that genuine interest and understanding in what hacking is
and have that desire for knowledge, that thirst for information,
that drive to always find out how things work, the curiosity,
the just inquisitive nature that makes up a hacker.
So let's talk to a few people and see what they thought of their experience on Binary Revolution Radio
and what it is and what it has become and what it came from
and what it may end up being and how it may go forth in the future.
So let's start with one of our frequent co-hosts on the show
and I think you will recognize this voice right away.
Alright, I am on the phone with Wintermute, this final episode of Binary Revolution Radio
and Wintermute, of course, was the original co-host of Binary Revolution Radio
right there from episode one.
Well, yeah, it was right at episode one.
It was actually the camp I, you know, camp I counseled and I was,
or not the counselor, but I was actually participating in Notre Dame
and we recorded out of a phone booth and, you know, a lot of people were bothering me at the time
wondering what the hell I was doing, but, you know, it was kind of funny.
But actually, if you remember, Stank, we actually recorded episodes before that on our own.
Do you remember?
Well, we did do a pilot episode, episode zero.
Yeah, but we actually did episodes negative one and negative two back when RFA was on.
How do you mean?
Well, okay, back when we would tape, if anyone remembers RFA or Radio Freak America,
we actually did a couple shows on there all by ourselves and it was a lot of fun.
And we were a co-host a lot of the time with Duel Parallel,
but then we also did a show twice on our own.
Yeah, I forgot about that.
So I kind of call those our first real episodes.
Yeah, I forgot all about that.
Yeah, no, those were definitely RFA.
Yeah, I forgot all about it.
You're right.
We did do a couple of those.
I gave Duel a few weeks off there.
But, yeah, we, you know, that's the thing is Duel and I, you know,
hooked up a couple of years ago towards the beginning of RFA and just hit it off as good friends.
You guys hooked up?
Well, we didn't hook up like that, you know, that kind of hook up.
I mean, we met and hit it off and we became friends.
Nothing sexual or anything like that.
Jeez, man, send somebody off to college and all their minds go straight to the gutter.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that was, I forgot all about it.
We did do two episodes where you and I co-hosted them.
Gosh, I don't even remember the topics.
Now I'm going to have to look it up myself.
Boy, I didn't, you surprised me with that one.
I forgot all about those.
But, yeah, you and I, not only we co-hosted that one, we co-hosted,
or we co-hosted with Duel, of course, on there a few times and with some other people playing Inquisitor.
Yeah, you and I did some by ourselves there towards the middle, I think.
So, yeah, that was, that don't really count, though.
That was RFA, and VinRev definitely started off with a new format and a new kind of way of doing things
that was a little bit different because, quite frankly, Duel would blow me away with a lot of his freaking knowledge and whatnot
and kind of was over my head, I guess.
I'm still not the big phone freak to this day, but I have learned a tremendous amount from him and everybody else
and from you, Mute.
I mean, so much of the ham radio stuff and electronics and even, you know, lots of hacking stuff.
I mean, we always have good conversations and, you know, we always learn from each other, I hope, a little bit,
and hopefully that will continue.
Just because the Binary Revolution radio, as we, well, it's not closing.
We are kind of turning the page, if you will.
Well, but just because I'm not going to be hosting the show anymore doesn't mean I'm disappearing
or that we're going away or that we're not going to talk.
I'm sure you and I will still keep in touch like we always have.
So it's not all like, you know, old yell or goodbye permanently or anything like that.
But, yeah, it's definitely been an interesting ride the whole way.
And, you know what, it's kind of been, I don't know, looking back on it, I'm very happy with the way things turned out.
I think that it's just time to close it up because of the fact that there's a lot of things going on.
I mean, I remember back then we didn't really have any, I think the magazine was just starting.
I think we were just becoming kind of, you know, we were starting to write for a lot of different magazines.
We were becoming pretty popular people.
And I think that it was a good thing to do and now it's time to close it up because we've got a lot of other shows coming on.
We've got a whole entire podcast.
We have so many episodes of this stuff to listen to.
I mean, it's almost getting too much.
Yeah, and, you know, just think back.
Do you remember back when we first started it and, like, we would be just amazed if, you know, like 200 people downloaded the show?
Yeah, I mean, it would be like we would just try to tape record it and it would take,
or not tape record it, but record it on the computer and we had so many issues before.
Do you remember, like, we spent, like, a week fixing all that stuff?
Oh, there were some of them that were just almost irreparable.
Yeah, exactly.
So, I mean, it was hilarious.
I mean, we had tons of fun and I would never trade it for anything.
Yeah, it was definitely good stuff.
So, we went from, you know, a couple hundred listeners to several thousand now and hopefully that will continue to grow and with, and hopefully people will stick around and participate in some of the other projects and stuff that we're working on and doing as well.
So, yeah, once again, we're not disappearing.
We'll be around for a while and I think the same holds true for you, Wintermute.
So, thank you for starting the show with me.
You and I just decided, you know what, we wanted more and we went out and did it.
Then we're still around and hopefully the show will be around in some iteration or form in the future.
Let's see how long it takes for it to disappear from people's minds or see what the future of the show holds.
Definitely, most definitely.
All right, well, thank you, Wintermute, for being on the show so many times and thank you for doing this with me.
Spend just a few minutes here to kind of reminisce with everybody and, you know, being that you were the first one, I figured you'd probably be the one we should start with.
Thank you.
I think that's going to do it.
Let's close it up there.
All right.
Jeez.
On the phone with us now is Black Ratchet and Black Ratchet.
Am I being recorded?
I don't want you to do anything.
You're being recorded.
You are being recorded.
Do I have your permission to record you and broadcast you to the global interweb?
I think I'm going to have to talk to my lawyer about that one.
Well, you do it every week on Freak Factor anyway.
We record that?
Yeah, a little bit.
Does that get broadcasted?
Actually, we don't.
Other people ended up doing it, so we intended not to, but that's a whole different story for another time.
I thought it was just a conf.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
People listen to that?
Yeah, maybe we need to put disclaimers or warnings or something up for that.
I actually think we have disclaimers and warnings up for that.
Yeah, I thought we did, too, actually.
Got to protect ourselves legally.
Yeah, but I'm a American, so I can do about anything.
Well, that's true.
All rights reserved, as Lucky would say.
How did you actually, how and when did you actually come across Binary Revolution Radio and subsequently Freak Factor, et cetera, et cetera?
Oh, well, back in the day of, you know, May 2004, May, April, I don't know.
Someone posted on FlashDot about, you know, cool radio shows to listen to on your iPod.
And, you know, me recently getting an iPod, I was like, oh, cool, go check out that.
And they, someone was talking about RFA.
And from RFA, I, you know, started listening to that and hooking up the archives.
And then I started, you know, finding out from other links about default radio.
And everyone started talking about the BINREV forums, BINREV forum, BINREV forum, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So I was like, oh, okay, forums.
And at that point, I was like, you know, forums suck.
Why would I want to go there?
But everyone started chatting about it enough.
And so I finally headed over and lurked there for about a month.
And then I picked up BINREV radio.
And, you know, finally started listening to that.
And, you know, lurked on the forums for a while and picked up that and just, you know, finally registered an account.
I think I actually just celebrated my one-year anniversary on the forums.
No, it seems like longer than that.
Hasn't it been longer than a year?
No, it's just been a year since I've been around.
Wow.
It's just like I registered an account.
I lurked there for a while, but I never actually posted.
Ah, I see.
Well, and it's kind of funny that I never knew that you heard that before from people talking about the forums
because mostly people bitch and complain about the forums.
Well, everyone's like, you know, oh, shouts out to the BINREV forums.
And I'm like, what the hell is up with this?
Well, that's cool.
That's good, though.
And it's good that, you know what, that's why, you know, people talk about getting slashed out and stuff like that.
We don't really go out of our way to promote any of the sites exactly.
We kind of, you know, put the word of mouth out there in the hacker community,
but we don't usually go out to Slashdot and other similar related or bigger name sites, so to speak,
for lack of a better word.
So it's interesting that you found us that way.
And now you hear you...
Well, thank, you know, my boring job for giving me copious amounts of free time to serve Slashdot all day.
Yeah, I used to know that song, too.
Yeah, I used to know that as well.
Now I actually have, like, you know, real work to do.
Exactly, exactly.
I just looked up my profile.
It was June 2, 2004.
Wow.
I'm actually curious when my first post was.
I'll go check that out next.
And what was it?
Here we go.
That'll be our...
Let's...
I believe my first post, someone was talking about cool cell phones,
and I gratuitously pimped my hip-top.
You know, not seriously, like, cringing right now.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, we all know his feelings on those devices.
Fine, member's post, last page.
And now here you are, how many, what, a year later?
Yes, less than a year later, in DDP, on Binary Revenue.
More than a year later.
A year and a month or so.
Okay, and co-hosted Binary Revolution Radio a few times.
Yeah.
Kind of a headache, though, wasn't it?
Oh, God, I don't see why anyone would want to host a show.
Yeah, it's kind of a...
People probably don't realize how much work and time and everything goes into it,
but you know what?
It's still...
It's all good.
It's all good, sometimes, more than others, but, you know.
Indeed it is.
It's enjoyable.
Some days more than others.
Yeah, my first post consisted of the text of Danger Hip Toss, also known as the T-Mobile
Sidekick, and I posted an image of a hip top that I found online.
June 2nd at 6.58 p.m.
Well, now, let's be honest.
Your first post was the one that says,
How do I hack Hotmail?
And I deleted it for you.
I mean, let's be honest.
Dude, dude, I told you not to say that.
Nah, yeah, but this isn't...
Dude, I made you swear never to say that.
But this is the anniversary special.
We have to let out some secrets.
We have to let out a few embarrassing things, and...
Oh, well, yeah.
It was my first post for the Hotmail one,
and then I sent a second one that said,
Lucky is a noob.
Well, everybody, that's tradition there.
And then my third post was,
My God, these forums suck.
Oh, yeah, I know I deleted that one.
Yeah.
Because I'm a fascist,
and I don't let people have their free speech and whatnot.
Yep, yep, indeed you are.
Exactly.
And then I hacked BinRev, and then you covered it all up.
Nah, yeah, I did that too.
Sure I did.
Anyway, well, it's been good to have you on the show,
and, yeah, I had to also slip in that little jab and embarrass you,
because I don't know if I have enough outtakes to embarrass you.
So let me dip into the outtakes bag here and see what I've got.
Oh, I'm sure there's tons of this for me.
Yeah, well, I don't know.
There might be, like, I have to look and see.
I don't know how many offhand, but we'll put them in right now.
So, Black Ratchet, thanks for being on the show
and for doing this quick segment with us,
and hopefully we will keep hearing your voice in the future.
I sure hope so.
Let's restart.
Okay, normal speaking voice, and this is my mic check.
One, two, sucky, sucky, boom, boom, long time.
Too beaucoup.
All right, I'm looking good.
How's your say something in a normal voice?
Well, I don't know.
You know, I don't like to talk in a normal voice.
I like to yell real loud and then whisper real soft,
just to fuck with your audio level.
Anyway, so, do you think, like,
do hot chicks have a mirror taped to their monitor, do you think,
so they can look at themselves while they're on the computer?
I don't think hot chicks use computers.
I think it's, like, something, like, a gene or something.
Yeah, you're probably right about that.
Oh, okay.
And then an email from system, sister shocker.
That said, oh, that was nasty sounding.
I'm glad that didn't slip on the air.
That sounds like a, oh, man, that would have been, like, some kind of weird, yikes.
System shocker.
Oh, God, I'm so glad.
Oh, I might have to save that one for the outtakes.
I'm going to apologize that I screwed up 72,
and I'm going to explain this little rant on how much Windows sucks my nutsack.
I won't say that on the air, I hope.
No comment.
It's handy when you're reading, like, you know,
my pickup of British slang was incredibly handy when I was reading Harry Potter, though.
It's the first time I ever really ran into it.
Hmm.
Interesting.
And, yes, I read Harry Potter.
Thank you very much.
I, uh...
I know we're getting stickers out in the audience right now.
Now, wait a minute.
Now, I will go with you on this one.
I actually read the first book to see what all the fuss was about.
It was good.
I listened to the second book on MP3,
and that was pretty much the end.
Liked it the first time.
I'm addicted.
I go out, and I've read every book so far.
Okay.
Okay, you are not allowed to make American Idol jokes from now on.
Just for record.
You listen to Harry Potter.
I like American Idol.
We're both...
Harry Potter is cedar of the mind.
American Idol is pre-canned rubbish.
Are you kidding?
The only good thing about Harry Potter is that chick that's...
Oh, never mind.
I don't want to say that on the air,
because I get all kinds of nasty mail.
All I'm saying is she's growing up quite nicely.
Oh, that is so wrong on so many levels.
Oh, no, I've seen it online.
And there's some type of, like, you know, legal countdown clock.
Yeah, they did it with the Olsen twins, and it was funny.
But if I do it about the Harry Potter chick, it's not funny.
They did it on Saturday Night Live one time.
No, no, I've seen it online for...
I don't even know what the hell her real name is.
For all I know, she could be one of those, like,
25-year-olds who's playing however she's old as she's supposed to be.
I don't even know.
Oh, sorry.
No, she's not.
Oh, okay.
Well, anyway.
I hate to break it to you.
All that's going to get edited out and put onto an outtake.
So you might as well just...
Let's just go on in.
And next up on the really big show tonight is a person who's been on the show a couple times,
especially recently.
And hopefully we'll be on a lot in the future.
I know we try to work out some timing issues because you're a busy man,
and I'm a busy man.
And luckily we're able to get together on occasion to do a show.
And, of course, I'm talking about the star of Hack TV Episode 2, none other than Acidus.
The slightly inebriated star of Hack TV 2 when that segment, I believe, was filmed.
That is a very, very true statement that we did not mention on Hack TV, but okay.
That's a good...
I really have that outgoing and enthusiastic about my work in person, too.
So, yes, to answer anyone's question, I really am like that.
Yeah, we were a little bit...
That night there had been some drinking going on, we'll say that.
Certainly, certainly.
Maybe the occasional scream from the hallway might have given that away, too.
The occasional drunk yelling from out in the hotel hallway.
But, yeah, that was actually...
You know, we're going to have some great director commentary on Hack TV.
If we put together a DVD, and we put a director's commentary track,
and we'll have all kinds of great backstories and stuff to add to it.
It may even be more interesting than the show itself, quite honestly.
We could have an entire backstory of just, you know,
spending the night in a room with Lucky.
I mean, that would...
Oh, yeah.
That's a story.
Lucky can be a full-length story in and of himself.
I think it could be like a reality TV show,
and I think somebody might be working on that, actually.
Oh, man.
Yeah, and just so everyone knows, the credit card number,
if you actually watch Frame by Frame a pack, too,
that was, in fact, a credit card of mine,
but, of course, is canceled and was canceled, actually,
when we did the filming.
Oh, man.
I was going to let people keep believing it
and let them try to get...
See, let them try to use it and get busted.
Oh, yeah.
That's what you get for carding, you bastards.
Exactly.
True.
Completely.
So, anyway, let's get back to, like, the show itself,
because this is the two-year anniversary of Binary Revolution Radio,
and as I said before, you've been on a couple times.
And, again, Hack TV, I mean, we're putting out a lot of stuff,
and you have been very, very good at helping out.
I mean, that's one of the reasons you and I, I think, get along so well,
and we have from the first moment we met,
is because we both have that idea of doing stuff and having fun
and putting things out there,
and whether it's presenting or a radio show or whatever the case may be,
I mean, a lot of people are downloading this
and hopefully getting motivated and, you know,
interested in the same things that we are.
You know, hacking, you know, we've had our talks offline and such.
Hacking is all about learning,
and BinRev has really become kind of the center of learning
with the magazine, with the forums, with the radio show.
You know, you're doing a great service to the community
by having this infrastructure there to get, you know,
people who are interested in certain subjects together
with people who are interested in other subjects
and just, you know, let them mingle, let them talk,
let them, you know, brainstorm new ideas,
help each other with their, you know, areas that they like
and areas they want to learn about,
and, you know, the show is just such a great resource.
I actually have downloaded all of the ones on FTP
and put them onto my iPod,
and I'll, like, listen to them throughout my day at work.
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's,
we get that from a lot of people that download them,
and you know what, the key words you said there,
and I'm glad you said this, is help each other, you know,
and help, you know, work on things together and help learn.
I mean, that's from the beginning of the show,
what we've always set out to do,
and I think I said it earlier,
is that we hope that from every episode
that each listener takes something away from it,
like, oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, I learned something new from this episode,
and that's one of the things that we've tried to do,
and while we always, we have fun,
and we have our jokes,
and we can get crude sometimes,
but we also try to cover good topics
and share information and spread the wealth.
Sometimes it's easier than other times,
don't get me wrong.
Some people aren't as interested in getting
and learning the information
and participating as others,
but you know what,
I guess that's kind of the nature of things.
Some people just don't want to,
some people want to be solo.
Hackers, by nature, are very solitary creatures.
You know, I really believe that,
and I, you know,
I've tried to make a community
where instead of us all being solo creatures
hiding from each other,
why not work together?
Why not share information?
That's what the spirit of the hacker community
is supposed to be.
Let's get people sharing and working together.
So hopefully we've done that.
You know, I just recently started actually
a business endeavor with some friends,
and it really came down to,
listen, no single one of us can do this,
but, you know,
you've got this strength,
I've got this strength,
you know,
you've got this other strength,
and, you know,
if we all pull this stuff,
we can not only make it,
not only can we do something
we couldn't have even done by ourselves,
but we can actually make something secured
and much better
than typical industry will turn out
and might as well pool our talents,
might as well actually make something
other than writing, you know,
some random G file
that five people read
that it could have been a lot better
had you consulted more people.
Yeah, you know,
and I think that's a great way
to kind of end this segment here
before I embarrass you
with all these outtick clips I have,
is that the simple fact that,
and if there are,
I don't want to say this in a negative way,
but for young people that are listening
or people that are listening
that don't quite feel like
they can contribute
or that they have certain,
you know,
I get a lot of people say,
I don't know anything,
I can't present,
I can't work on this project
because I'm not good enough
or I don't know it.
That's so not true.
And secondly,
everybody has weaknesses
and everybody has strengths
and feel free,
working together
is going to help increase your weaknesses
and make you stronger at things
and work together
and you will absolutely accomplish things
and your story is a great example of that.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate that.
All right.
Well, I guess this is,
I honestly do not know
what these outtakes of you
are going to be,
so I guess,
like,
I've forgotten so many
of these outtakes,
but one of them
I do remember was,
and we'll start with this one,
was when I think
I left you on the speakerphone
while I went to get
a glass of iced tea
and you just started talking,
so I think that's
probably the way
to close that episode.
Nobody was there.
I'm like,
hello?
Hello?
Hopefully I wasn't,
you know,
discussing felonies
and or other things.
I think you were,
I think you were making
some comments about me
that I didn't hear
until I listened back
to the thing I heard,
so,
Ashton,
thank you for being on the show.
Maybe I was talking about you
and your,
you know,
sports obsessions.
It could very well
be some of those
as well.
You're right.
Hey,
right on the face.
Perhaps some of your,
you know,
granted,
they're very funny
and we,
you know,
we rib on you
in all good taste,
but let's see your
redneck qualities
about you,
baby.
Hey,
hey,
NASCAR is a sport.
I don't care
what anybody says.
All right,
man,
thanks a lot
for being on the show,
not only this time,
but,
you know,
several times
that you've been on
and Hack TV
and,
you know,
we're going to keep
working together
as much as we can
and see if we can
do some more episodes
of both.
I apologize
for dropping the ball
on my end.
Things have just been
so crazy,
but I really do need
to keep my priorities
straight.
And you,
and working on projects
is certainly high
on the list.
Yeah,
I agree.
I really want to get
back into more projects
myself and I'm kind of
pulling away to
concentrate on that
myself and,
and yeah,
hopefully we can work
together on some stuff.
We still have,
you know,
we were going to get
that presentation
together for DEFCON.
I know that didn't
work out,
but I do still have
that rough outline.
We won't,
I guess we'll take
that off the air,
but I do still have
that outline that I
had sent you before.
If you still want
to get together
and co-present
maybe at Hope
or Interzone
or something like
that,
I'm still up for it.
Yeah,
fantastic.
Yeah,
I think we can
work something out.
All right,
buddy.
Thanks a lot for
being on the show
and let's start
embarrassing you now.
Take care,
Spank.
Bye.
All right,
so checking blah,
blah,
blah.
Blah,
blah,
blah.
Blah.
Honestly,
man,
that looks pretty
good right off
the bat there.
But just for the
fun of it,
because Kroger
screwed you on the
car,
which by the way,
I haven't seen a
Kroger since Kentucky.
It's like seven
years ago,
but did you know
there's such a site
called KrogerSucks.com?
It doesn't surprise
me,
but I didn't know
it existed.
As soon as you
hung up and said
that you were
having problems
with the car,
I just for the
hell of it went
to check and
sure enough,
it's there.
There's not
really anything
on it.
It's part of
the Sucks 500
network,
whatever that is.
Sounds like
porn,
but...
Yeah,
exactly.
I love these
random web
rings that spring
up over the
weirdest crap.
You suffer.
Yeah,
when I said
go get a drink,
I meant like
water or juice
or something.
No,
I don't want
you...
It's been a
long day
and after that
crap at Kroger,
it'll be nice
to just play back.
Don't worry,
I'm not going to
go crazy and
drunk on the
air for you.
I was getting
ready to say
that might be
good radio
if you just
get shit-faced
by the end
of the show.
So,
joining us on...
What episode
are we on
anyway?
Didn't it say
63?
63,
September 21st
this is going
to air.
Dude,
I turned
33 last week
by the way.
Happy belated
birthday.
Yeah,
thank you.
Dude,
I'm so old.
That's not too
bad.
See,
Stank,
you can just
dye the ground
out of your hair,
buy a sports car
and start dating
20-somethings.
There's any
number of
things that they
can do.
Yeah.
All right,
hey,
hold on a second,
all right?
Sure.
I gotta pause
myself.
Something the
hell is...
I thought it
was my cell
phone.
Hold on,
let me write
down the time
here and I'll
be right back.
I thought it
was my cell
phone going
off in the
other room
and I was
going to
ignore it,
but now I
need to go
see what
it is because
it won't
stop.
Hold on.
Sure.
Fuck.
Those of you
who don't know,
Stank is actually
keeping seven
women prisoner in
his basement and
one of them has
broken free and
started banging on
the windows.
Yeah,
she's just that
type of gentleman.
Yeah,
it was my cell
phone.
I got nine
missed calls.
I want to know
who the fuck
keeps calling me.
Hey,
Stank,
don't listen to
what I said.
Just use it
one of your
outtakes.
What did I
miss?
It'll be good.
There you go.
Now,
our next voice
you're going to
recognize from a
long time back,
not to infer that
you're old or
anything,
don't get me
wrong,
only that you've
been on the air
for quite some
time and of
course I'm
referring to
Rax.
He of RFA
fame.
Yeah,
it was quite a
while ago
actually now that
you look at it
in that scope of
things.
Yeah,
let's put it in
perspective because
that's kind of what
we're doing here on
the show is this is
the second year
anniversary of
Binary Revolution
Radio.
And of course,
I know you and I
were both on
Radio Freak America.
When I say RFA,
for the listeners who
might not know,
we're referring to
Radio Freak America
at OldSchoolFreak.com,
but you actually
were on there from
episode one.
You know,
Dool and I became
friends like a while
into the episodes and
you know,
an occasional co-host,
guest,
whatever,
but you've been in
there since day one
and that was,
gosh,
when did it start?
When was that?
Well,
I think the idea
for the thing,
Dool came to our
2600 meeting in
Phoenix and he was
talking about it.
I think the first
thing that we
recorded,
no,
it was the first,
it was the idea
came together on
02-02-02,
February 2nd of
2002,
which was kind of
an ominous date.
And then the first
segment he recorded,
I think he took his
little recorder and
did a dumpster dive,
was like February
20th,
02.
And it kind of all
took off from there.
At 02-22 in the
afternoon?
I don't know if he
was adding all about
it,
but the idea behind
that,
we were talking on
names and I guess
I've had the privilege
of naming a lot of
things in the community,
but we came with the
idea of the Radio
Freak America because
it was an old school
freak and it was
Freak A,
it was a capital K
in freak,
deliberately misspelled
just because it was
free K,
free knowledge.
Right.
And the original
slogan for it,
and I've still got
the sticker up on my
monitor here,
there's a big long
story about that.
We were trying to
come up with stickers
to give away to
promote the show
at H2K2.
And the producer
of the stickers,
the company that was
making it,
didn't quite get
around to it in time.
But anyway,
the original slogan,
slug line was
technology,
privacy,
freedom,
and knowledge,
but we didn't
have enough room
to put knowledge
there.
So all the RFA
stuff that you see
now just says
technology,
privacy,
freedom.
So we sacrificed
the knowledge.
Yeah,
we kept the freedom
and so you know,
had to strive for
one thing over the
other I guess,
but I think the
knowledge is implied.
Yeah,
you've got to take
your victories I
guess.
If you have to
label the knowledge
then it becomes
kind of,
I'm not sure what
the word is there.
I don't know,
self-aggrandizing
maybe.
It's less fulfilling
I guess,
I don't know.
If you have to tell
people that they're
gaining knowledge
then they're not
probably not really
gaining the knowledge
they should anyway.
But hey,
that's neither here
nor there.
So that was
020202 basically,
again not exactly
when the first episode
aired or anything,
but basically
early 2002.
That's right.
And you guys
started the show
because you just
wanted to do it
for the fun of it
just because it was
another outlet,
another way of,
you know,
we won't go into
a big rant on
mass media and
how the same
big companies
are putting out
and controlling
the radio waves,
the airwaves,
etc.
Of course until now
the onset of
satellite radio
gives some new
options.
But,
you know,
back then the
internet of course
still does give
you a lot of
options and give
us a lot of
options to explore
alternative viewpoints
and information
and points of
discussion I guess.
And that was
really before the
whole podcasting
thing took off as
well.
Right,
right.
And,
you know,
podcasting is a
great distribution
tool,
but,
you know,
we predated
podcasting quite a
while.
So that was then.
Now,
here we are
2005.
Look where we are
now with the
Bin Rev Empire.
The Bin Rev Empire.
Oh my gosh,
that sounds so
ominous.
Yeah,
you've got the
black Rolls Royce
limo with the
green VR license
plate on it now,
I understand.
Sure I do,
right.
I'm just rolling
in the bucks
here.
We first started
it for the money
and then for the
chicks and now
it's for the money
again I guess,
right?
Yeah,
are you getting
money that I'm
not aware of?
Yeah,
right.
Can I say,
you're holding
out on me?
Yeah,
well I forget
what ep that was.
Someone was quoted
for a while with
that,
you know,
it's like,
I'm only here
for the chicks.
Yeah,
I think that
might have been
your little catchphrase
for the longest
time,
huh?
For a while,
yeah.
Yeah,
I'm just in it
for the chicks.
Well,
I am in it
for the chicks,
but I don't know
if you listened
to last week's
episode yet,
I know you're
a little behind,
maybe more than
one week,
but we had a little
I'm busy,
alright?
Okay,
I'm busy,
give me a break,
man.
We had a little
bit of a challenge
where we had a
female listener
write in saying
Oh my God,
there's a female
listener out there?
Hey,
how you doing?
Exactly,
here's the joke
though,
she said that
we would be
surprised that
we have more
female listeners
than we seem
to think,
so I issued a
challenge,
okay,
email me,
if you're a
female listener,
email me,
you can email me
with a fake name
through a fake
account if you're
worried about
anything weird
like that,
I just want to
get a count,
I bet it's less
than X number
of people,
well,
you know how
many emails
we got?
One,
one email,
actually I've got
one since then,
so it's up to
two,
and that second
one could have
been forged,
you know?
Yeah,
exactly,
exactly.
Because as they
say on the
internet,
no one knows
you're a dog.
Yeah,
exactly,
no one knows,
well,
oh man,
you did not
just say that
our female,
you'll see the
famous cartoon,
it was probably
about like 1994,
I was talking
about that with
someone the other
day.
The New Yorker.
Yeah,
you didn't just
call our female
listeners dogs
though,
right?
No,
not at all,
not at all.
I was referring
to the cartoon
from the New
Yorker.
Just to clarify
that,
that would
generate a lot
of email
from female
listeners.
That would
really...
Before we upset
the two listeners
out there,
I just want to
clearly state
that that was
just a reference
to the cartoon.
Oh man,
well...
And send,
stank your email,
send me your
pictures.
Great.
Yeah,
I don't think
that's going to
work either.
You might get
pictures that you
really didn't want
now.
You might get
a lot of
interesting pictures
now.
Yeah.
Anyway,
alright,
well I guess,
man,
we've come
a long way
since the
first episode
of RFA
and hopefully
the future
will continue
going upward
and onward.
Hopefully,
honestly,
joking aside
and to be
kind of serious
I guess to
close up here,
hopefully we're
still bringing
knowledge,
hopefully we're
still keeping
knowledge free
and keeping
information flowing
and that still
is fundamentally
what the show
is about.
You know,
we try to
touch on topics
and educate
people as well
as educating
ourselves,
go into some
opinions,
go into some
all kinds
of underground
topics.
Well,
we try to,
my goal
with the show
from day one
and still to
this day
is every week
I'm hoping
that there's
one,
at least one
thing that
somebody can
take away
and go,
I didn't know
that.
I learned
something new
from this
week's episode.
That's my
goal every week.
Hopefully somebody
will learn
something from
every episode.
I know I do.
You know,
you've got to
learn something
new every day
because if not
you get really
far behind
really quick.
Yeah.
Well,
Fat Racks,
thank you for
being on the
show again
and I don't
know what
kind of
outtake
situation.
I don't think
I have any
outtakes on you.
I think you're
going to get
off lucky
this time.
Like I said,
it's because I do
everything perfect
the first time.
Yeah,
that's it.
Yeah,
if I remember
quite,
you were featured
quite prominently
on the first
anniversary season,
so I guess
that's enough
torture for you.
There you go.
And next up
on the block
tonight is
our good friend
Natus,
the current
maintainer of
OldSchoolFreak.com.
Natus,
out and about
at 2 o'clock
in the morning
or almost
2 o'clock
in the morning
having himself
a coolata.
So this is
take two
trying to
do this segment
because somebody
decided to order
a coolata
on the air.
But that's okay.
The listeners
can hear that
for themselves
in a few seconds
in the outtake
section of the show.
And actually,
see,
that's the cool
thing,
Natus.
You're the
funniest co-host
because totally
by weird luck,
I guess,
or I guess
maybe we just
put you in
these situations
like on location
where there's
always some
weird stuff
going on
while we're
trying to record.
There's like
a mugging
going on
or the subway
going by
or there's
always something
weird going on
when you're
on the show.
How do you
explain that?
I don't know,
man.
The way I do.
That's just
how I roll.
No,
sorry,
I don't have a
cigarette.
I just got
people asking me
for cigarettes
while I'm on
the air,
too.
See,
dude,
anytime you're
on the show,
it's like
we're recording
during a Jerry
Springer episode
or something.
it's like
somebody's
going to
throw a chair
and hit you
in the head
or something
while we're
recording.
Well,
right now
I'm sitting
in a park
on a bench
and there's
like six
homeless people
sleeping next
to me.
Oh,
you should
get one
of them
on the
phone.
No.
They'd
probably steal
your phone
and run
away,
though.
Yeah.
Oh,
man.
I think you
should walk
over and pinch
one on the
ass,
though.
That would
be pretty
good stuff.
I might
like it.
Are they
hot?
Yes.
Ooh.
How about
pigeons?
Are there
any of those
little death
hunting black
pigeons or
whatever you
were talking
about?
No.
They were
here earlier,
though.
I saw some
guy throwing
like a whole
loaf of bread
at them.
And the
squirrels?
They were
loving it.
Oh,
man.
I don't know.
No squirrels
here.
This park's
kind of small.
Wow.
Well,
back on to
the show
topic.
See,
that's the
other great
thing is you
and I always
laugh and go
into all these
weird tangents
and stuff,
too.
But,
Mattis,
this is the
two-year
anniversary of
Binary Revolution.
Can you believe
it?
Two years,
dude.
I can't.
Two freaking
years,
non-stop,
mind you.
Week after
week,
a regular
weekly show.
more than I
could do.
Yeah,
one or two
exceptions may
be in there
somewhere.
But,
as far as the
people know,
they were all
consecutive episodes.
Well,
there's 104 of
them in two
years,
so you do
the math.
Mm-hmm.
But,
man,
can you believe
that we can
still provide
crappy content
like this on
a regular
basis?
I can't
believe it.
You know
what,
though?
The show
is,
you know,
we've been
talking with
some of the
other co-hosts
and,
you know,
the show is
great that we
do try to
educate people
and we talk
about serious
topics and
stuff,
but at the
same time,
we still try
to have fun.
And I don't
think we've
ever lost...
Who's that?
Some random...
I was going
to say,
we've never
lost sight.
Yeah,
we've provided
a lot of crappy
content and a lot
of good outtakes.
Yeah,
I was going
to say,
we've never,
you know,
we've always
tried to
keep having
fun and still
to this day,
including this
anniversary episode,
having fun on
the show.
I don't care
that that's going
on and we're
not going to
retake this.
This is the show.
That's what it's
all about,
man,
keeping it fun.
That's right,
we're keeping
it real.
Keeping it real
and you know
what?
That's something
that we've done
from day one
on Binary Revolution
Radio,
you know,
we let people
speak their minds,
we agreed on
the show,
we disagree on
the show,
we have people
with opposing
viewpoints.
We give
everybody a chance
to have not
only opinions,
but we go
into some
factual discussion,
some technical
discussion.
I know you've
done a lot
of asterisk
talk,
a lot of
general freaking
discussion we've
done on the show,
even like I know
I've called and
contacted you to get
answers to emails
we've had on shows
that you weren't
even particularly
co-hosting.
I'll call and say,
hey Natus,
this user asks
about this,
you know,
is this right
or is this wrong?
and we've still
tried to be
consistent.
I actually hope
we've gotten
better over the
years.
I mean,
I like to think
we have anyway.
Definitely.
You think?
Yeah.
I hope so.
I mean,
I guess we
got nowhere to
go but up.
I mean,
when you've got
the stuff going
on that we
have.
I have to be
on my toes
when I'm on
the show,
man.
Even though
it's all fun
and games,
I have to get
my show notes
ready and
everything because
you're on
the ball all
the time.
Yeah,
I know.
And you
know what?
I don't think
damn it,
Natis,
I don't think
anybody in all
the other
interviews so
far has made
fun of my
show novels yet.
So you get
the privilege
of talking
about my
show novels
as Duel
used to call
them.
My show notes
but he started
calling them
show novels
because they're
so long.
And I don't
know if we've
ever done this
on the air
before.
You know
what?
This is kind
of a reminiscing
show but I
guess I'm going
to give a little
bit of information
just to let
people in on
this.
how I do
show notes
every single
week.
Maybe I
should put a
sample show
notes up
somewhere so
people can
see.
But basically
I have a
plain ASCII
text file that
I keep of
the format of
the show every
week of the
flow of the
show.
and we have
the email
section at the
beginning of the
housekeeping and
we have our
show and tell
and we have
our main
topics, extra
topics and
all the closing
reminders of
meetings, etc.
etc.
And like
Natis was
referring to,
I always send
it to the
co-host, have
them add their
input to it or
corrections or
any additional
things they want
to make so
that we're on
the same page
and we do
kind of a
five minute dry
run ahead of
time to make
sure we're all on
the same page
about what
we're going to
say and what
we can't say
sometimes or
shouldn't say
sometimes.
And we've got
it down now so
that we pretty
much do it in
one take.
You know?
Well, unless
there's like an
emergency like
with your
episodes where
somebody's getting
shot or stabbed
in the background
live on the air.
Guys almost
getting hit by
bikes, getting
hit by taxis
on their bikes
and stuff.
Is that what
happened that
one time?
They're going to
hear that in the
outtakes in a
few seconds also.
Is that what
it was?
A guy almost
got hit in a
bike?
No, I think
there was like
an ambulance or
something, a
fire truck, but
somebody almost
got hit by a
taxi one time
too.
I remember
that.
Oh, man.
Yeah, so you're
just Mr.
Excitement,
Mattis.
You're the
exciting portion
of the show.
And now I feel
bad letting you
go.
I'm going from
the exciting
portion of the
show and now
here's some
outtakes and
then we're going
to go on to
something else.
But anyway, I
guess that's how
I roll.
So, Mattis,
hopefully we'll
get some more
excitement on some
upcoming episodes of
the show.
How about that?
Yeah.
And enjoy the
excitement that is
the world that
Mattis lives in.
Nice and quiet,
Eric.
All right.
Well, we are on
the air with our
good friend Mattis
who always seems to
be around the
sirens.
What's that about?
I don't know.
Sorry.
Hi.
Can I get a
small strawberry
culotta?
Whipped cream?
Live on the air.
We got to start,
we got to keep that
as an outtake or
something and start
over because we
can't have you
ordering.
Well, hold on.
Let me get this
culotta real quick.
All right.
It's funny though.
Hukake Lane.
You know where
it is?
Oh, yeah.
I absolutely
recommend that
people get a
bachelor's degree
if you can from
a real...
Now that is
cool.
Now that...
That was
hilarious.
What the hell
just happened?
A huge...
Like a whole
fire station
just went by me.
That was...
Holy crap.
I was crossing
New York, man.
They're going
through like
shitloads of traffic
and everybody's
just like honking
and not doing
anything.
Dude, I thought
you were fucking
dead or something.
I'm like, oh,
I thought I heard
like, holy shit,
he died on this
show.
I'm going straight
to hell for that.
Holy crap.
Oh, shit.
Oh, my gosh.
I don't know
if that's going
to make an
outtake or if
we should leave
that one in.
That was
pretty good.
I was trying
to like cover
the mouthpiece
and everything
so you can feel
the air,
but it didn't
work.
Holy crap.
I think I need
some quiet time
after that.
Holy shit.
Literally,
a whole fire
station
just went by
me.
It sounded
like an
accident right
behind you
or something
and then I'm
like, what
the fuck?
All right.
Anyway, let me
get back on track
here.
That's going to
have to come
out.
Oh, that's
going to be a
great outtake
though.
All right.
So, let's
take it out.
Yeah, it's got
to come out.
All right.
So, we've got
a lot of places
with a lot of
information, man.
There's really a
lot of stuff
going on that
people really
can find
interesting and
blah, blah,
fuckity suck
balls.
Oh, that's
going in the
take our episode.
Oh, I was
done.
I was getting
ready to finish
and then you
said something
and it fucked
me all up.
I didn't know
where to go
with it.
All right.
Fuck.
Yeah, I guess
that will go
into the
outtakes.
Damn you,
Nattis.
Oh, no.
All right.
Now, moving
on with our
next victim,
I mean, our
next freak on
the show tonight.
And, of course,
I mean freak as
in PH the good
way, the good
freaks, the good
wicked freak of
the east.
I don't know
what the fuck
am I saying
tonight.
Fuck.
All right.
So, Doug,
you are next up
on this episode
of Binary
Revolution Radio,
a walk down
memory lane,
a very special
episode.
Very special.
You're a very
special person
to have on here,
not in a short
bus special
kind of way,
but in the
simple fact that
you are one
of the few
people, well,
you're the only
person,
the few people,
you're the only
person to ever
actually do the
show without me.
Well, I guess
Lucky falls into
that too, but
you and Lucky
did the show
without me.
You're the
only people
that can make
that claim.
What do you
think about
that?
That's pretty
elite.
That's it?
Pretty elite?
I had a great
fear of a time.
I had a great
fear of a time.
Oh, man.
You and Lucky
have always worked
real well together
doing stuff, so
whether it was
default radio and
then coming over
to BinRev for a
couple episodes,
that worked out
really well.
and the show
didn't miss a
beat.
Everything went
through fine.
You guys took
over.
The ratings didn't
drop or anything
like you had
predicted.
Did the ratings
actually raise?
I don't know if
they raised or
not.
I don't know if
I'd go all that
far.
Okay, you know
what?
Sure, they went
up.
We'll go with
that.
We'll say they
went up.
Whatever.
No, man.
But you were
certainly real
happy to give it
right back to me
after two weeks
now, weren't you?
Yeah, you know
the show was a
pain in the ass
but I did have
a good time
doing it though.
Yeah, and it
wasn't, it was a
little bit, the
format wasn't a
problem, right?
The format of the
show wasn't the
big deal but it
was the, like if
I remember right
there were a
couple emails that
you're like, we
can't answer that
right back to
Stank Dog in two
weeks.
Yeah, because
there's a lot of
things I don't know
what I'm talking
about when it
comes to the
hacking and
computers and
stuff.
So it's kind
of hard to do.
You've got to be
in that kind of
category, you
know, you've
got to be
interested in
those kind of
topics.
So people, I
don't think people
realize how hard
of a show is even
though if you are
into that.
Well, would you
say you did
default weekly for
a while there while
it was going on?
Was that, was that
difficult to do
every week?
Yeah, but the
thing with default
was it was never,
there was never
any show notes to
follow.
It was totally, you
know, just out of
thin air and it was
also a category that
we're all familiar
with like me and
Lucky are into
very well so
that was an
easier show to
do.
Right.
And it wasn't a
professional show
at all so.
This show is a
lot more professional
than default would
ever have become.
We've got a long
way to go before
we can ever use the
word professional to
describe this show.
We have a professional
format maybe I'll say
that or a standard
format.
I believe that
Binder Revolution
Radio is the most
professional underground
internet radio show.
Isn't that like an
oxymoron professional
underground?
I don't know.
I don't know what
that means either but
I guess I'll, should I
take that as a
compliment or?
It's a compliment.
It's a damn good
show.
It's not boring, you
know, you're still
learning things.
It's informative.
It's entertaining.
It's infotainment.
Right.
Joking aside, I do
know what you mean
because, you know,
there is a standard
format.
I do try to keep,
yeah, it's not
professional but I
try to keep a serious
tone to it as, at
least, on a case by
case basis we'll go
off tangents, we'll
have some jokes, we'll
make some fun, we
don't hold back, we
don't not joke around
or have fun.
But for the most part,
yeah, for the most
part, we try to keep
the show a serious
topic anyway.
And that's really one
of the things with
Freak Factor that we
split off is that
Freak Factor goes back
to that anything goes
mentality.
I mean, it's
different than
Default.
Definitely Default was
more, I mean,
Default, you have to
say, is more
professional than
Freak Factor.
Freak Factor is
total reality radio,
you know, it's
totally anything goes.
So I guess if we
put them in order of
professionalism, maybe
in comparing them,
Freak Factor is way
down in the opposite
end of things.
Right.
I know what you
mean, I know exactly
what you mean.
Well, I guess, Doug,
to keep the professional
level on this
anniversary episode
down, I guess this
would be the point
where we switch from
this little walk down
memory lane and I
play all the
embarrassing outtakes
I have of you.
Of me?
Of you.
All right.
Everybody in there,
I honestly, I don't
know what I have offhand
now as you and I are
talking, but I'm sure
I can dig something up.
So let's check out
and see what I've got
on Doug of Default
Radio fame and Doug
TV fame and the Doug
Show fame and what
else do you want to
pimp while we've got a
second here?
Doug TV and Default,
that's good enough.
That's good enough.
Okay.
Well, check out what
Doug has in the old
outtakes reel.
So how many batteries
does your vibrator
take anyway?
Four double A's.
Oh, it's just one of
those tiny ones?
I thought you'd have
one of those big
gigantic like kickstart
with a UPS and all
that kind of stuff.
Are you recording?
Possibly.
All right.
Now, how could we
possibly get through
a reunion show or
whatever the hell
we're calling this,
a clip show, an
anniversary show,
whatever it is,
without having my
good friend Lucky
225 on the episode?
It would be, it
wouldn't be complete
if we didn't have
the Luxter,
the Double Deuce.
See, I coined that
nickname for you,
by the way.
Oh, you coined it.
The Double Deuce.
I made that up one day.
I think we made it up
on the air, but,
and one of our listeners
gave you the diabolical
Lucky 225.
Remember that?
Yes, I do, I do remember
that.
Yep, yep, that was a
good one.
I like that one.
Both of those names
fit.
Well, Double Deuce,
what do you think of us
reaching 104 freaking
episodes of Binary,
two years, consecutive
non-stop episodes of
Binary Revolution Radio?
Wow, and you know what,
it wasn't the first
episode zero?
Um, you know,
well, we, yes and no.
We recorded an episode
zero as a test,
as a pilot episode,
but it did not count
towards the continuity,
but you know what,
that's a good point.
Technically, that is
105 episodes.
Yeah, that's what I was
thinking about, like,
wow.
Yeah, we, we.
That is a lot of
episodes, man.
I didn't even think
about that.
That is a good point.
We didn't release that,
we only put that up on
the website a little bit
later, that it was our
pilot, once we decided,
once we'd done a few
episodes, so, but
yeah, we've actually
done 105.
Here I am an hour into
the show, talking about
episode 104, and
actually, this is
technically the 105th
episode, so, damn,
now I have to go back
and redo it all.
I know.
Do you love me?
Yeah, screw that.
I'm not doing that.
But, man, I mean,
you know what, and
we, we've already,
we've talked to, to
Rax and some of the,
some of the guys from
RFA, and, and,
you know, I,
didn't you, you
listen to RFA,
right?
I mean, I know it's
been a while back,
but, but did you
listen to Radio Freak
America?
Yes, I did,
actually.
I actually found it
because I'm a
narcissistic bastard,
and I was Googling my
name one day, and I
came across RFA, and
I'm like, whoa, what
the hell?
There's like an
internet radio show
about hacking?
You know?
I was like, this is
awesome.
How cool is that,
right?
Yeah.
I, you know,
actually, Duel and
I met early on in
RFA, like, totally
just because we
happened to run in
the same circles, and
kind of met each
other, and kind of
just started doing the
show together for a
little while, and,
you know, and
obviously it kind of
spun off, and things
have become what they
are now with Bin
Rev Radio, but it's
kind of, it's actually
kind of weird, because
default radio falls into
this mix, something that
you were a part of,
which was also a great
show that I love
listening to, because RFA
started off as, you
know, Radio Freak
America, obviously the
emphasis on freak, but
not only freaking, they
covered, you know,
freedom, you know,
technology, privacy,
freedom, knowledge,
information, you know,
the catchphrase that
they covered all these
different wide variety
of things, which was
great and incredible,
but one of the reasons
we started Bin
Rev Radio was to try
to bring it back in and
focus on one of those
subjects, specifically
hacking, which was, you
know, my passion.
So I kind of pulled
away to do Bin
Rev Radio and focus
on the hacking side
of things, and
ironically, it was
shortly after...
And obviously, you
know, me and Dakota
were just sitting
around, and we were
like, we need another
freaking show, you
know?
Exactly, that's what I
was getting to.
We started focusing on
hacking, and then you
guys realized that,
yeah, you wanted to do
some more freaking
stuff, and with RFA
ending at episode 99,
you know, default radio
kind of was born, I
guess.
Yeah, it was
short-lived, but it
was pretty good.
Well, it wasn't that
short-lived.
How many episodes?
You got 39, 37?
I forget.
I believe we have 38
or 39.
Somewhere in that
range.
That's nothing.
That's quite a few
episodes, and of course,
we all know why the
show kind of ended in a
very sad note and a very
bad reason for it, so we
won't rehash that,
unfortunately, but big
shouts to Decoder, you
know, no matter what's
going on with all that,
and, you know, it's just
unfortunately not doing
the regular episodes of
Default Radio, but maybe
an occasional special.
You guys did one.
The last one we did was a
Thanksgiving special.
You know, maybe sometime
in the future we might
think about coming out
with another one.
Yeah, and I would love to
be a part of it.
You know, and that's the
other thing is I, you know,
I was on a couple episodes
of Default Radio.
It was, you know, it was
definitely, Default Radio
was very cool to me because
I learned something on
every episode, and that's
the kind of thing, and I'm
being serious, you know,
I'm not in the freaking
scene so much.
You know, everything, I've
said this before, I give
credit where credit is due.
Everything where credit is
due, everything I've learned
about freaking I've learned
from Dual Parallel, from
Decoder, and from you,
Lucky.
Honestly.
Everything that I know
from you guys.
Don't leave out Natus.
He's found some cool
shit, too.
Well, Natus, and Doug
also, Doug is very good
at, like, dumbing things
down for me so that I
understand it, so Doug's
definitely very good at
that.
And actually, we've already
heard from Doug earlier
on this episode of the
show, too, so, yeah, Doug
is very good at, like,
explaining it to me so
that I can understand
it, so that's what's
great about Doug.
But, yeah, everything...
He translates things into
layman's terms, basically.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
You know, I try so hard
to do that, like, in all
my 2,600 articles that
I've read for and
everything, and people
still just can't get
it, and I'm like,
what the hell am I
doing wrong?
Yeah, well...
I think I'm just going
to turn everyone over
to Doug from now on.
There you go.
Oh, man.
Well, you know, Default
was very successful, even
though it, you know, had
to have the unfortunate
ending that it did.
There were other, and
we won't go into detail
here, but there were
other radio shows that
popped up as an attempt
to, I say, compete with
Default and with Bin
Rev and stuff like that
that were even shorter
lived.
There were some that,
you know, they didn't
last, what, 14 episodes,
and they were just
horrible anyway.
I think you know what
I'm talking about.
We won't mention the
name, though.
But there were...
Yeah.
Well, there were other
ones that were good,
but...
There were some good
ones.
See, the thing is, you
have to keep a radio show
going, and you need
content, which, I mean,
even Default Radio
suffered with the content
part of it, some of the
times, you know.
Yeah, but you were
always having fun with
it, even if you didn't
have a specific topic.
You guys were always
real good at just
winging it and making
phone calls.
You always had numbers
available.
See, that's the cool
thing that, you know,
Decoder and you always
brought to the show.
Oh, yeah, that's what I
was going to mention,
too, is a lot of people
strive.
They hear it, and they
think it's cool, and
they're like, they want
to do it on their own,
but, I mean, you have
to have that kind of
personality to just, you
know, to put out that
information and just come
up with stuff off the
cuff, you know.
Yep, and you know
what?
I think we probably
should wrap it up here
and play some outtakes
because I have a lot of
outtakes of you.
I can't wait until you
listen to this and hear
some of the outtakes.
You're aware of them
all, but you probably
have forgotten about
them.
And you know what
else I'm going to do
as kind of a little
tribute here to Decoder
and to Default Radio?
I'm going to put some
of the outtakes I have
of him on here also
because Decoder's also
been on Binary Revolution
Radio, and you know
what?
Decoder has always been
one of my best friends
online, one of my best,
closest friends.
We always, you know,
Decoder was definitely
a straight shooter guy,
and he's someone that
I've gotten along with
from day one.
Tell it like it is,
and you know what?
I've always liked that
about Decoder, and I
can't wait until he does
get back here so that we
can catch up on a lot of
things, so I'm going to
go ahead and play a big
batch of outtakes from
the, what is it?
The Rock Stars of the
Internet Underground
from Default Radio.
Yes, that's from
Wired Magazine, I believe.
Annalee knew it, right?
Yep, you got it.
So here we go with some
outtakes.
All right, a little bit,
move the mic a little bit
closer.
What are we getting,
hold on, what are we
getting for dinner, Ma?
I don't know, but I'm
about to do a radio show
right now, so I don't
want to have all these
questions in the middle
of it.
I don't know, what are you
guys going to get?
Sure, sounds good.
Yeah, well, let's delay
the show so Lucky gets
his order in to Mom.
But, okay.
Mommy!
Are you going to send me
the show notes or what?
Are you going to get a
happy meal or what?
Are you going to send me
the show notes or what?
Yeah.
All right, this is
Stank Dog, and I'm
recording from the center
of Hurricane Gene,
which just suddenly died.
All right, normal
speaking voice, and I'm
looking pretty good if I
do say so myself.
Lucky, how are you
feeling?
Fantastic.
What are you doing?
Eating.
Eating what?
What did Mommy bring
for you to eat today?
I'm eating cheese
that's out of a box.
All right.
Never underestimate
the power of cheese.
This isn't going to be
on the outtakes, is it?
It might just.
Oh, you fucker.
Dude, let's do a
Klondike commercial.
Lucky 225, what would
you do for a Klondike
bar?
Thank God for a
radio show.
I think I'll take you
up on that offer.
All right, well, I guess
we've got enough there.
We'll edit out the
three or four tries and
just put it in as the
first try and make it
sound like it'll work.
Nobody will know the
difference.
What are you doing, noob?
Sorry, my phone was like
fearing for a second.
Do you not know how to
operate a phone?
Okay.
Apparently not.
My phone was fearing you.
What?
You're a noob.
What?
You're a noob.
Fucking use a phone made
by Con Air.
They make fucking hair
dryers, not phones.
I wasn't using a
Con Air phone.
That's the problem.
Oh, wow.
The Con Air phones are
actually real loud.
So what kind of phone
were you using?
I'm still using that
phone and it's a Sony
piece of shit.
Well, it's Sony.
You shouldn't even own
anything by Sony, those
fuckers.
I know.
I 100% agree with you.
I hate everything Sony
makes.
Everything.
I hate the PlayStation.
I hate the fucking
PlayStation 2.
I hate the fucking
Sony CDs.
I hate the fucking
Sony CD players.
I hate any fucking
thing made by Sony.
It all sucks.
Word.
Pussy, run your life
there and let's start
again with the email.
First email from
Australia.
Australia, mate.
far stuff.
Alright, do you want
to do it or not?
Alright, you're going
to do the first email.
Okay, that's what
we'll do.
You read the email
then I'll do the
answer and I'll try to
do an Australian
answer.
That way we both do
it and we both suck
and we both whatever.
Alright, so the
second email, I'll do
the second one from
Mike Howell.
Oh, should I do a
funny voice?
I should do like a
sling blade voice for
this.
Well, here's the day
on the 1st of
February, I was
called over the
fields by my wife
who said that my
daughter had done
cut her wrists
because it was the
first of the month.
And plus, look at his
assholes are reed or
red.
He doesn't know the
difference between red
and red the color and
red a book.
I mean, this guy's
fucking bizarre.
Your assholes are red
and your asshole is
blue.
Well, which is it?
Are assholes red or
blue?
I mean, what the fuck?
Make up your mind.
Yours is blue because
it gets pounded so hard.
Oh, I guess.
Generally, they're red.
Is that what he's
saying?
Yeah.
Stank doogie, stank
doogie sucks, metallic
I don't know.
Mine's brown, but that's
just me.
Well, that's too much
information.
Wait a minute.
Did I record that?
Holy shit.
Hold on.
Let me see.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Oh, yeah.
Score on that one.
I'm going to loop that
like open.
I'm going to use that
for the next telephonic
craptacular to separate
them.
Like when I used you
whistling the quarter
tone that one time, I'm
going to separate every
segment with you going,
mine's brown.
Fuck you.
Oh, that's lead.
Okay, so now I'm
talking at my normal
voice that I will be
using when the show
starts, and on the
phone today is Lucky
225 doing a sound
check for me.
Lucky, can you speak
to the people, please?
Well, what the fuck
do you want me to tell
the people?
Something that I can
use?
You want me to tell
them to fuck off?
Well, if you feel the
need, let me adjust
because you're kind of
loud there.
Now, you were going
to tell them to what?
I was going to tell
the people to fuck off.
Now, why would you
tell the people to
fuck off?
Why not?
Don't you think
that's a little bit
just rude?
I mean, they're
tuning in to listen
to you, the nefarious
Lucky 225.
Fuck them.
They're not turning
in to listen to me.
Well, who are they
turning in to listen
to?
Sure as shit, not me.
Well, they've been
doing it every freaking
week to listen to your
ass for 91 episodes
now.
It's whoever my
co-host is.
I'm just along for the
ride.
All right.
Let me see.
I'm going to take you
down another notch.
I've got to save that
for the outtakes,
you telling everybody
to fuck off.
I'm sure they're
going to love you
after that.
Ooh, that hard
is so hot.
All right.
That was good.
It has to be just a tad
here.
Just like I said it,
Julie, what don't you
understand about
give me that big
hard drive
and laugh
while you say it.
This whole thing is
supposed to be funny.
Julie, if nothing else,
I want to thank you for
getting him to say that
so I can use it in the
outtakes.
Decoder saying give me
that big hard drive.
I'm going to use that
over and over again.
I'll fucking kill you.
I'm so totally saving
that.
So anyway, I'm recording
now, by the way.
So this is my sound
check.
Blah, blah, suckity,
suckity.
Welcome to C2.
So you weren't recording
when we were having
phone sex?
You just started now?
Right.
I just started now.
I mean, we can do the
phone sex again if you
want.
I'm done, man.
I can only bust two or
three out fucking in a
sitting.
Yeah, so same with me.
So I'm done.
Small company is in
financial trouble.
Okay.
And one of the workers
has to be let go.
So the boss thinks it
over and he comes to
the conclusion that it
should either be Jill
or Jack, right?
So he decides to discuss
it with each of them
individually before he
makes his final decision.
So he calls Jill into
the office and he says,
all right, I got a
problem.
I have to lay you or
Jack off.
And she says, well,
then you better jack
off because I've got a
fucking headache.
That was so horrible.
I know.
That's what I'm trying
to say.
Bad jokes.
Bad jokes should never
ever see the light of
day.
All right, here you go.
Here's another one.
Oh, God.
The couple gets married
and the wife brings a
footlocker into the
bedroom.
She locks it and puts the
only key on a chain
around her neck.
And for years, her
husband tries to figure
out what's inside the
freaking footlocker,
right?
But she always changes
the subject so he never
gets around to finally
find it out.
Why didn't he just
smack her up a little
bit until she fucking
gave it up?
But that would have
ruined the joke.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Go ahead.
Finally, on their 50th
wedding anniversary, he
says to her, look, I've
got to know what's in
there.
We've been married for
50 years.
Come on.
So she says, all right,
it has been 50 years of
marriage.
So she takes the key and
unlocks the footlocker.
How old were they at this
point?
Because 50 years plus, let's
say, 21, they've got to be
old by then.
Yeah, definitely.
So she opens up the
footlocker.
And inside the footlocker...
Does my stalling make the
joke even worse?
Yeah, of course.
My interruptions like this?
Oh, yeah.
Because it can't get any
better than the last one.
Oh, it will.
So inside the footlocker,
there's two ears of corn
and $25,000.
So the husband said, what
the fuck is with the two
ears of corn?
They'd be pretty rotten.
Wouldn't there be like
maggots and stuff all over
them by then, too?
Well, of course.
But here, it might not.
Well, you didn't mention
the maggots.
But she says, well, for
the last 50 years, every
time I fucked another guy, I
put an ear of corn in the
trunk.
So the guy says, well, you
know what?
Twice in 50 years, that's
not too fucking bad.
You know, I mean,
whatever.
It's about to happen
twice in 50 years.
That's good.
But what's with the $25,000?
And she says, well, every
time I got a bushel, I
sold it.
Which explains why there's
no maggots.
Yeah, that was...
You're not funny.
I said bad jokes, bro.
I got good jokes, but
these are the bad ones.
Well, give me a good
one.
Please save me from the...
All right, let me think
of a fucking good one.
We don't have any good
ones.
Back in the fucking days.
You're not funny.
You don't have a good
joke.
I got good jokes.
I got to think of the
fucking ones we used back
in the days.
It always fucking worked.
Fucking back in the day?
That's old shit.
Nobody wants to hear old
shit.
Yo, old shit fucking
comes around again, man.
The past repeats itself.
Yeah, I know.
I saw your clothes.
I saw your outfit at
Hope.
What happened?
Nothing.
What did you just say,
fucker?
Nothing.
Tell me your fucking good
joke, will you?
Ah, screw you.
Oh, now you don't want to...
See, now you admit you
don't have any good jokes.
No, I got a good one.
I don't want to fuck it up.
That's why I'm trying to
think.
Hold on a second.
All right, all right.
I'll wait for the payoff
for the delivery of the
good joke.
All right, all right.
A fucking chick is driving
around in her BMW, right?
Right.
And she fucking...
And it starts making this
fucking bad noise from the
engine.
Like, clonk, clonk, clonk.
So she's like, whatever.
She pulls into a fucking
mechanic, right?
Mm-hmm.
To play.
She gets up to the guy.
She's like, look, this
thing, you know, my engine
is making noise, and I got
to be gone soon, you know
what I'm saying?
So you got to fix this for
me quick.
And he's like, all right,
no problem.
Let me check it out.
So she, you know, goes
around to this little
shopping, comes back in
like an hour.
And she's like, are you
telling my car?
And he's like, yeah,
yeah, no problem.
Done.
And she's like, well,
what was wrong with it?
And he was like, oh,
enough, just shit in the
carburetor.
And she said, well, how
many times a week do I
have to do that?
Damn it, I said it
fucking wrong.
You blew that.
Fuck.
That's because I fucking
can't think of it.
You put me on the spot.
I didn't put you on the
spot.
You're volunteering.
You're fucking Mr.
Comedian all of a sudden.
Um, how about the bear
and the rabbit in the woods?
What about them?
Bear and the rabbit
were in the woods talking.
And the, uh, the bear
turns to the rabbit and
asks him, he says, hey,
will you take a shit?
Don't you hate it when it
gets all stuck to your
fur and bunched up and
stuff like that?
Yeah, of course.
The rabbit says, no, I
don't have to worry about
that.
The shit comes off my
fur naturally.
I don't have a problem.
Uh-huh.
So the bear wiped his
ass with the rabbit.
That's not funny.
You laughed.
That was funny.
Come on.
That was good.
Come on.
Dude, you laughed.
That was good.
You should give me a
better one than that.
You need to give me a
better one than that.
Dude, I don't know.
You should call it the
Hacker Honeycomb Hideout.
It is.
We are recording live, not
live, we're recording,
coming to the listeners from
the Hacker Honeycomb Hideout.
At the top of the Kuala Lumpur
Tower in Kuala Lumpur,
Malaysia.
Not coming.
The Hacker Hacker, what are we
called again?
The Honeycomb Hideout is not
in Malaysia.
Yes, it is.
It's atop the Kuala Lumpur
Tower in Kuala Lumpur,
Malaysia.
Nope, nope.
That's way too far.
Live from the top of the
Kuala Lumpur Tower.
It's Saturday night.
Are you really recording?
I am now.
You are listening to radio,
freak, Antarctica.
No, I gotta do...
Technology, privacy, glaciers.
I gotta do sound checks anyway,
not theories uber low.
Yeah, because your phone sucks,
dude.
Why don't I just record it
on the bridge instead of
dealing with your crappy
speakerphone?
Well, do it on the bridge.
That's cool too.
Turn up my levels, kid.
All I'm saying is decoder
sounds perfectly fine,
but you...
How do you call him, Scott?
Something in it.
You guys are absolutely
deafening.
On a regular phone,
completely deafening.
Honeycomb's got something
inside of it.
Sugar, sugar, sugar.
Big, big, big.
It'll give you a big
heart attack.
Lucky.
Two to five.
Raise your cholesterol.
Hi, hi, hi.
Have good health.
No, no, no.
That's not right.
Uh-uh, uh-uh.
Honeycomb fears.
It got owned.
Tron, Tron, Tron.
Dude, we gotta make
Tron cereal.
We gotta make Tron sing
that song.
Oh, man.
Tron O's.
Sugar Tron.
What's the prize
inside of every box?
Docks.
Somebody's docks
dropped in every box.
Wrapped in like plastic.
You open it up.
Someone's docks.
Like a Cracker Jack prize.
Docks dropped
at every box.
Oh, dock dropper cereal.
That's it, man.
All the docks.
Oh, dock droppers are big.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Actually, that's the coffee
I'm drinking right now.
A chock full of docks.
Mm.
A chock full of docks.
Really?
The funny part
to that story
is that last night
we were chock full of cocks,
weren't you?
Oh, yeah.
Very much.
Okay, next up
on our voices
from the past episode
of the show
on our anniversary show
will be a voice
that goes way,
way back.
Back to the days
of RFA, actually.
As well as
Men Rev Radio
co-hosted quite a few
episodes with me.
And someone that I hope
you'll all enjoy
because I know you
haven't heard from him
in quite some time.
And I would love
for him to come on
here right now
and kind of let
everybody know
that he's doing okay.
So I think I'll let
the voice speak
for itself.
Bukkake blast
from the past.
One Mr. Bland Inquisitor
in the words
of Obi-Wan Kenobi.
There is a name
I have not heard
in a long, long time.
Back in the
Bland Inquizzle Nipple.
Wait, what did they
call you that one time?
Weren't you like
a Bucky Cheek Spreader
or something like that?
No, I think you were
Cheek Spreader.
I was Buck Dangler.
Buck Dangler, that's it.
Buck Dangler.
And you were like
Chester Cheek Spreader?
I don't know.
Oh, that was
those are some
funny times, man.
Oh, that was good stuff.
That was good stuff.
How you been doing?
Been doing great.
Job's working out.
I'm doing everything.
Got my life
pretty much going
the way I'd like it to go.
And I'm just
really, really happy.
I'm glad to hear it.
And I know
you coming on the show,
I appreciate you doing it.
But you and I talk
all the time anyway.
We keep in touch
with each other.
It's not like you've
disappeared from my radar.
But I definitely am glad
we got you back on the show
because I know a lot of people
out there haven't heard
from you in a while
and are probably wondering
how you're doing.
So I'm glad that we were
able to get you on here
at least kind of
touch base with people.
You're still a staff writer
for 2600 Magazine.
What's up with that?
I've got a new article
I'm kind of playing
with writing.
I'm probably going to
write it and send it in
the next week or so.
Hopefully this week
I'll get it all
sewn up and sent in.
But yeah,
I'm just kind of a selfish
bastard, you know.
I kind of love the community.
You know,
there's just a whole lot
of drama and a whole lot
of people and just a whole
lot of, I don't know.
So I just stepped away
and really it was
a great decision.
It was the right decision
for my family.
It was the right decision
for my job.
It was the right decision.
It was the right
mental decision for me.
And, you know,
as much as I love everybody
and everybody is great,
but there was just
a lot of home shit
and I think it was
a good decision.
I do definitely
stand by it.
Oh, and I couldn't,
you know,
I know exactly
where you're coming from.
I'm doing the same
thing myself
and real life
always comes first
and we've said that
so many times
people put their lives
in perspective
and put the whole
hacking scene
as it were
in perspective.
You know,
hacking is,
you know,
it's a way of life.
It's a part of who you are
and whether you're in
the quote-unquote
scene or not,
you know,
it is part of who you are
and it's not going to change
and you're still
the same guy
you've always been
and whatever that may,
whatever that may count for.
No.
Yeah, well, you know,
it's,
you know,
being a hacker
is a lot more
than fucking around
with a computer.
I mean,
as you well know,
I mean,
there are,
I've met people
who couldn't find
the on switch
to turn their computer on
but they are just elite.
They're just,
they're just kind of
dripping with
the hacker spirit.
You know what I mean?
Oh, absolutely.
You know,
whether it's,
and that's like
on some of the episodes
of the show lately,
whether it's,
whether we have musicians
and artists
and just all kinds
of wide variety
of people,
you know,
it's,
there's the hacker mindset,
you know,
the ability to think
a certain way
is just
not confined
to computers.
Yes,
it's predominant,
predominantly in computers.
There's no doubt
about that
because that control
and the ability
to manipulate technology
to do what you want
and to overcome
boundaries
and obstacles
and to get things done,
there's a natural
relationship there
but it's not necessarily
limited to
or tied only to that.
I mean,
it's the ability
to just think your way
around,
through things,
over things
and as a life,
you know,
as a way of living,
as a way of life,
it really is.
I mean,
I don't want to sound
like all corny
or,
what do you call it,
like some kind of
zen philosophical.
You don't want to be
melodramatic about it.
Yeah,
not all philosophical
and whatnot
but,
you know,
but yeah,
it really is
and you know what,
that's once a hacker,
always a hacker.
I think you said that before.
Yeah,
and more of that,
you're born one.
I don't know,
you know,
at what point
you kind of become one
and whether it translates
into computers
or into music
or into just,
you know,
soldering electronics,
building your own
solutions for things.
It's,
you're made
and it doesn't have
anything to do with,
you know,
being cooler than thou
or whatever.
It's just,
you're you
and that's,
you know,
and you're special.
Yeah,
speaking,
you know what,
speaking of music,
I mean,
obviously,
you know,
it's real life
is first and foremost
but it also does
free up some time
for you to look
at other interests
like,
for example,
music.
Have you been
enjoying some time
to play some music?
Yes,
I have.
I've been playing
kind of,
kind of on request.
People will be like,
hey,
you know,
grab your guitar
and come over
and we'll sit around
and we'll play
some tunes or whatever
and sing a little bit
and drink some beer
and eat some barbecue
and you know how it goes,
you know?
That's right.
That's how we roll.
All right,
man.
Well,
listen,
it was good having you
back on the show again.
I know a lot of people
were happy to hear from you again
because,
you know,
you do have a lot of friends,
you know?
A lot of them
may not be able to call you
or have contact with you
or nothing like I do
and I,
of course,
you and Duel and I
we all keep in touch
and whatnot
but I know a lot of people
do care about you
and have a lot of respect
in the hacking community
so I'm sure,
I'm hoping that they'll be
very happy to have heard
from you again.
So,
at this point,
let me see,
do I have,
let me see,
I don't know if I have
any outtakes from
the Inquisitor
because this is season two.
I probably don't have
any outtakes
to throw down on you.
So,
how about some
parting words of wisdom
for all of our listeners
as I speak very slowly
to give you a few moments
of time
to come up with
some parting words
of wisdom.
You see how I'm
stalling that
a little social engineering
tactic there?
I'm kind of biding some time
and I still am
if you haven't noticed
and that way
by probably by about now
you can give them
some great,
funny,
philosophical,
deep,
one line of some kind
and something tells me
it's going to be
horribly perverse
and at my expense
but that's okay.
What kind of parting
words of wisdom
do you have
for our listeners,
Mr. Inquisitor?
Measure twice,
cut once,
especially if you're
a rabbi.
Oh, God.
And we'll go out
on that note.
And next up
on the anniversary
episode,
the two-year anniversary
of Binary Revolution Radio
is another one of our
more popular co-hosts
of the show
who we haven't heard
from in a little while.
It's been not too
awful long,
a couple months
since you were on
the show,
Voodoo Howl,
so welcome back,
I guess in a weird
kind of way.
What's up, everybody?
And we're not going
to keep you on here
for an entire episode
because I know
you're a busy,
busy man as of late.
I know you've kind
of been taking care
of some,
I guess,
I don't know
if unplugged,
I'm getting tired
of saying everybody's
unplugged all the time
but real life things
come along that people
have to deal with
sometimes, right?
Yeah,
I wouldn't say
that I'm unplugged
because I do kind
of lurk around
on occasion
but real life
is definitely
taking over.
I'm still alive.
Do you,
I'm sure our listeners
are glad to hear that.
It has been a couple
of months
but you do still
lurk around
in the forums
occasionally?
Forums
and occasionally
on IRC.
You know what
I come on at.
Yeah,
I see you pop in
once in a while
and say hey
but yeah,
I mean that whole
real life thing
kind of steps in
once in a while
and I'm kind of
going through
some of that
stuff myself
and you know
it comes and goes
and sometimes
it sticks around
for longer
than we had hoped.
Unfortunately,
yeah.
Sometimes you can
just take a month
off and deal
with whatever
whether it's
bills or family
problems or health
or whatever the
case may be
but sometimes
they have a tendency
to linger on.
Sometimes you just
gotta work and pay
the bills I guess,
right?
Yep.
Yeah,
I know that feeling
and well,
are you going to
I think you're
on again,
off again about
DEF CON.
Are you off again
for sure?
Yeah,
definitely now
because I've already
made flight arrangements
and everything for
training so now.
Oh,
that stinks man.
I was really hoping
we could all hook up
at DEF CON
but being that
you're not,
like you said,
you're not completely
unplugged,
there's a chance
that we'll bump in
somewhere else
maybe Interzone
or one of the other
conferences sometime?
Yep,
maybe,
I think I may be
going to Freaknik
this year
if it's gonna be
in October.
Yeah,
I think
so we should
see about that.
Yeah,
Freaknik 9
in October 2005,
Freaknik 9
because this is
gonna be dated,
I don't know
how long people
will be listening
to this
but in case
we pass Freaknik
they're not waiting
for us at Freaknik 10
somewhere.
I don't know
if I'm gonna make
Freaknik this year
myself.
That's the frustrating
thing is that
unfortunately
everybody has
their own
different schedules
and their own
real life things
driving them
and we can't
all get off
the same day,
the same month,
the same conference
every time
unfortunately.
So,
well,
I guess
what I try
to plan on doing
is to at least
make DEFCON
every other year
and Hope
every other year
and alternate
between the two
of them
and everything
else that I can
make is on a
case-by-case basis
if I can get off
and if I can
afford it,
et cetera,
et cetera.
Well,
also,
if anyone's
going to be
at Coupon,
which is kind
of an Asterix
developer conference,
give me an email.
We'll get a beer
or something.
I'm gonna be there
early August.
Very cool.
Very cool stuff.
Well,
have you been
listening to the show
lately, by the way?
Do you have time
to even listen
to the shows
besides just
lurking in the
forums?
Occasionally.
I haven't,
I've probably
missed the last
couple,
but I do not
use it as
background noise
at work sometimes
if I remember
to actually go
get it.
Yeah,
I do the same
thing.
I listen to a lot
of stuff while
I'm coding at
work and sometimes
I'm three or four
episodes behind
on any given
show.
So that's not
unusual.
That's the way
we all do,
but you do keep
up once in a while.
We've had some
pretty interesting
people on lately
and hopefully
sometime soon
we'll get you
back on
and we can go
into some
asterisk stuff
because I know
you've got a lot
of cool information
lately with all
the work you've
been doing,
so we'll have
to try to make
that happen.
How's that sound?
Sounds good to me.
All right,
well,
Voodoo Howell,
thank you for
being on the
show and I'm
sure everybody's
glad to hear from
you.
Like I said,
it's been a
couple months
and people like
to know that
you're still doing
well out there,
so I guess we
will see if I've
got any funny
outtakes on you.
I don't know
if I have any,
we'll have to
dig into the bag
here and see
what kind of
stuff we've
got on you.
Oh,
now sounds
like a good
time.
All righty.
Shit,
customer,
hang on.
All right,
and for our
final voice of
the evening on
this two-year
anniversary special,
I would be remiss
if we did not
have one of my
best friends from
doing this for the
longest time,
not to sound all
corny and sappy
and blah,
blah,
but we couldn't
have a show
without Dual
Parallel.
Thank you so
much,
Stank.
Of RFA
frame,
and you know
what,
dude,
you and I
have been through
a lot together,
man,
seriously,
I mean,
not to start
crying on the
air or anything
weird like that,
but you know
what,
seriously,
we've both
been through it,
we're both on
the same page,
we both have
the same kind
of philosophies,
we get along,
we,
you know,
it's like,
I don't know,
man,
can you believe,
honestly,
okay,
listen,
Radio Freak
America started,
and we heard
from Rax earlier,
like,
you decided
one day,
wouldn't it be
fun to do,
you know,
at the
Phoenix 2600
meeting,
am I correct?
Yes,
to quote
Bland,
mm-hmm,
go on,
girl,
you go,
that's exactly
what happened,
it was three
of us,
me,
Condor,
and Rax,
Condor,
Rax,
and me,
yeah,
and that was,
dude,
do you realize
that was four
years ago,
like,
something,
two,
let's see,
February 2nd,
2002,
isn't that right?
did you
came up,
yeah,
you know,
can I take
this opportunity
for one,
you know,
I'd like to
give one last
review,
that's great
last episode,
I'd like to
review screwdrivers,
screwdrivers are
drinks,
they're made
with vodka
and orange juice
and some ice cubes,
and then they stick
a little straw in
there normally,
I like screwdrivers,
I've had a few of them,
and then Stank calls
me up,
and we're doing
the show,
and you know
what,
I'm glad,
I'm really glad,
I'm damn glad,
because Stank is a
good friend,
and a damn good
man,
and he's done so
much for the
community,
you should all
be so happy,
oh,
you're definitely
drunk,
and he's done so
much for you,
you're definitely
drunk,
it's what happens
to get old,
and get old,
and fucking
pleasure it,
and drunk,
that's right,
we're doing this
RFA style,
bitches,
taking it back
to the beginning,
yeah,
you know,
if I may have
started all,
you know,
again,
me,
Max and Condor
were at a
meeting,
the three of
us,
we said,
dude,
let's,
you know,
let's fucking
do this show,
you know,
and it came
to be,
and so many
more have
come afterwards,
you know,
made us look
like noobs,
and it's great,
Condor,
you know,
if I believe
in God,
God bless his
soul,
he's actually
in Iraq right
now for
everybody,
so let's all
hope for his
sacred turn
in this
illegal war.
I actually,
you know,
to take a
little tangent,
I'm sorry,
I actually do
hear from Condor
once in a while,
and it's great
to hear from him,
and I always
say thank you.
Wait a minute,
since he's been
to Iraq?
I don't know,
it's probably been
three months
probably since I've
heard from him,
but yeah,
I believe since...
No,
because I've heard
of,
I've,
I talked to him
right before he
left.
Okay.
Well,
he's IM'd me,
and you know,
it's like,
you know,
I have to say,
even though,
even Condor,
we've been through,
we've known Condor
for a long time
and been through
a lot of stuff
together,
you know?
Yeah.
So Condor
definitely,
you know,
shouts to you
for sure,
and everybody,
not just Condor,
but everybody
over there,
but that's a
whole nother tangent,
I guess.
The political
aspect of things,
you know?
Yeah,
yeah.
Seriously,
I'd like to thank
you,
Stank,
for everything
you've done,
because no,
I haven't,
you know,
I haven't been
quoting this scene,
but you know,
I still talk to people,
I still like to write,
you know,
I still,
you know,
never stop hacking,
but you've done so much,
you've given so much
of your time,
which is the most
valuable thing,
not to mention your money,
I know how much
money you've spent.
You know,
everything you've done
for everybody,
you know,
and I know the hosting
will go on,
hopefully the magazine
will go on.
Yeah,
everything,
you know,
we're not,
you know,
just because,
you know,
the thing is,
we've always said,
and Bland and I
talked about this,
we've always said
that real life
comes first.
we've never ever made
any bones about that
whatsoever.
There's never,
there's no gray area,
there's no cross line,
line to be crossed,
there's no questionable,
it's always,
real life comes first.
Your family is the most
important thing,
your well-being,
your pursuit of happiness,
that's always the most
important thing in life,
no matter what.
Hacking is a part of who you are,
and it's going to continue
no matter what,
but making yourself,
making sure you're happy
with who you are
and where you are in life
and your direction is life
is always the most
important thing.
Always has been,
always will be,
it's something we've always
said on the show,
and,
you know,
it's just,
sometimes you gotta do
what makes you happy,
sometimes that involves
closing the bathroom door
with a little bit of lube,
sometimes that involves,
sometimes that involves
sitting in a bar
with a screwdriver
in your hand.
Yeah,
fucking A man,
God bless Jackie,
my bartender,
she's the best.
No,
that's just it,
we're having fun
on the show,
you know,
you gotta have fun
with everything you do,
even if it is
in the hacking scene,
whether it's not
in the hacking scene,
whether it's with your friends,
on the phone,
whatever,
it's all about having fun
and,
you know,
trying to be positive
about things,
you know,
you and I always try
to keep everything
spinning in a positive
direction,
you know,
it's like,
it's why,
it's just,
it's not that hard,
it really isn't,
some people work
really hard
to make things
dramatic,
all the drama
and all the,
just keep,
you know,
anybody listening,
anything that I,
if there's something
I want to say,
it's just,
just have fun,
just have fun
with hacking,
that's all
that it's about,
have fun with hacking,
don't make it a chore,
don't make it not fun,
don't make it drama,
don't make it insulting
and attacking
and looking to make people
look bad and destroy,
have fun,
that's what hacking is,
have fun,
fucking A,
if I may quote RMS,
it's playful cleverness,
yep,
playful cleverness,
and playful is synonymous
with fun people,
I mean,
come on yo,
don't take things,
get all up in it,
yeah,
it's not that serious,
it's a radio show,
you know,
have fun with it,
it's hack TV,
it's the websites,
the forums,
don't flame each other,
don't be dicks to everybody,
just have fun,
don't forget everything else,
keep it,
keep it real,
have fun,
and,
you know what,
I think that's a good note
to kind of close up on,
what do you think?
I think that's good,
can I give a couple shouts?
Of course you can,
the mic is all yours.
Okay,
shouts to everybody
I've ever had contact with
in the community,
because everybody has been good,
everybody I've talked to
has always been really nice,
so,
thank you to all of them,
big shouts to Logic,
of course,
Bland,
you,
Mute,
Archangel,
who's effing elite,
man,
just,
more,
you know,
Nottis,
Decoder,
more than I can name,
you know,
and especially,
especially you think,
so.
Oh,
wow,
please.
That's it,
yo,
and shout to Jackie,
yeah,
yo.
Oh,
man.
You give me,
I'm in Frisco,
by the way,
for everybody,
I'm in San Francisco,
beautiful,
looking at Fishman's Wharf
right now,
looking at it right now,
it's beautiful,
it's gorgeous,
especially with the buzz.
Life is good,
life is very good.
Life is damn good.
Alright,
well,
now,
let's see,
we're saying all these good things,
but now I'm going to embarrass you
with the outtakes,
I'm playing everybody's outtakes too,
so.
Oh,
fuck.
Actually,
I don't think I have too much
on you this time,
I think that,
actually,
all the stuff we have this time
is just really funny,
silly stuff,
again,
having fun laughing,
so,
I guess we're going to close it up,
again,
thank you,
you know,
not only for the whole,
you know,
friendship we've had for the years,
but for doing RFA,
and for helping out in projects
that we've worked on together,
and,
you know,
you're one of the people
that does get the whole idea
of it being fun,
and I'm glad that we actually
kind of always have seen eye to eye
and worked together on it,
so.
I'm going to,
getting over-clamped.
Thank you,
Stank.
I'm going to close this,
I'm going to close it up
and play your stuff,
and then,
and then I think we'll probably
wrap up the entire show,
so,
yeah,
to everybody,
you know,
from,
all of us from the old RFA days
and the BinRev days,
you know,
thanks for always having fun with it,
and hopefully keep going.
All right,
this is Stank Dog,
and we're starting off
Binary Revolution Radio.
This week,
we have Decoder and Lucky
on the show,
and Decoder,
actually,
why don't you start us off
and give me your impression
of Lucky 225?
I'm the fairness.
I'm the fear.
Now,
Lucky 225,
what do you have to say then?
Are you really the fairness?
Yeah,
I'm such a noob.
they're going to be so pissed.
Oh,
oh,
man.
Oh,
that's funny.
Did you get that,
really?
Yeah.
And,
not theory,
unfortunately,
I was not able to get in touch with,
so,
I guess his punishment
is going to simply be
that I'm going to play
all of the outtakes
I have of him,
and these are so funny
that I just cry myself
listening to them
as I try to put them together,
so,
not theory.
I wish I could have got you
on this final episode
of the show,
but I know you're a busy man,
so we'll just leave the listeners
with some of your
best of moments.
Check,
check,
one,
two.
Hi,
how you doing?
Hey,
baby.
My name's The Fearness.
The Fearness.
I'm fearing The Fearness.
All right.
I am.
As I eat my last
Reese's Peanut Butter Cookie.
Okay,
that's definitely no good for me.
I've got to lean in here
a little bit,
because even though
you're like
a couple thousand miles away
in New York,
I want to be as close
to you as possible,
so I like to put my lips
right on the speakerphone
while we're recording.
Oh,
that's so hot.
Does that turn you on?
Uh,
naturally.
record.
All right.
Sound check,
one,
two,
one,
two,
normal speaking voice.
Okay.
And how are you doing
there on the phone?
I'm doing pretty good.
Testing,
testing,
anal butt sex.
All right.
Um,
you're a little high.
Let me move this up
just a bit.
Oh,
man,
speaking of high,
time to take some pills.
Uh-oh.
Um,
what was that part
about anal butt sex again?
Uh,
you know,
just fucking
doing the rinse dance
in the butt.
All right.
Normal voice,
no laughing,
no music,
no singing
the gummy bears theme song.
Oh,
damn it.
I was just going to do it.
Use your big boy voice
consistent.
Let's go.
My big boy voice?
Like,
the one I use
when I yell to my mom
that I didn't poop
my pants
with my pull-ups?
Mommy,
mommy,
I went all by myself.
You come out
with shit smeared
down your leg.
I went all by myself.
I just went on the couch.
But you did it
all by yourself.
You should be proud.
Oh,
man.
All right.
Mic check,
one,
two,
one,
two.
Chickity check yourself
before you riggity wreck yourself.
Not theory on the mic.
Take it one time.
Booy!
Microphone check,
Micah,
microphone checker.
Oh,
yes,
sir.
That's it?
That's it.
That's all I got.
I'm too lazy
to keep rapping.
God damn it,
I'm white.
What was that?
Huh?
What?
Nothing.
Yeah.
Oh,
I'm damn sexy.
Get in my belly!
You're too sexy.
I'm too sexy
for my shorts.
I know that.
Too sexy
for your kilt.
I'll eat you,
baby.
I do the worst accents.
You know,
I do so many crappy accents
on the show,
but they all suck.
But the funny thing about it
is that I keep doing them anyway
even though I know
that they suck.
It doesn't stop me
from going again.
I'm like those people
on American Idol
that think they actually can sing
and they just keep going back.
But there's a determination
to be a perpetual noob.
Well,
you know,
what are you going to do?
Sometimes you have to
do what comes natural.
Sometimes you feel like a noob.
Sometimes you don't.
We've got to use that slogan.
We've got to use that slogan
for some upcoming show.
Sometimes you feel like a noob.
Boom, boom.
Sometimes you don't.
Oh,
dude,
we have so got to use that.
We want to use that
for Freak Factor?
Is that,
wait,
is that going to be an outtake?
Oh,
you want to use it as for,
oh,
yeah,
you know,
that might make a good,
wouldn't it?
You know what?
I may be able to get somebody
to sing it for me.
No,
it has to be us.
It has to be too bad.
It has to be bad singers.
Sometimes you feel like a noob.
Sometimes you don't.
Freak Factor's got nuts.
Sometimes you don't.
I don't know what the fuck.
I don't know.
I think it's something.
Oh,
he goes big.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
Well,
I think they suck.
Well,
I think they suck too.
So,
yeah,
me and a bunch of my buddies
are hanging out.
We had gone out drinking,
whatever.
We're staying over at this kid's place
and sleeping on the couch,
whatever.
Right before we go to sleep,
kid decides he's going to take
this big,
nasty,
like,
post-bar dump.
It was gross.
It dumped so bad.
But I don't know why he decided this,
but he decided he wasn't going to flush.
Of course not.
That's a trophy.
Oh,
man.
So,
whatever.
In the middle of the night,
I got to get up and take a piss
because I'm like,
you know,
I had like eight million beers.
Oh,
whatever.
So,
I open up the,
the toilet
and there is this fucking,
like,
his,
the crap must have been loose
and nasty
because it was this big
turd pancake.
It looked like
the skin on top of,
like,
chocolate pudding
when you let it sit there
for a long time.
but just bumpy and foul.
It was so gross.
But I was like,
fuck,
I don't want to flush this
and then wait for it to refill,
whatever.
So,
I just had to take a piss,
like,
through it,
like,
I'm some type of fucking,
like,
crap ninja.
So,
dude,
as soon as my piss
stirred up this,
this fucking ass muck,
the stench was unbelievable.
I was like pissing and retching
at the same time.
It looked so funny.
I was doing,
like,
the Michael J. Fox,
like,
crazy,
like,
shaking dance.
It was awesome.
Oh my God,
I can't breathe.
So you vomit,
you could have had,
like,
a vomit,
piss,
old doo-doo
concoction.
Oh,
yeah,
I stirred up some type
of a fucking crap demon
that was just like,
I don't know,
silence for a thousand years
and now it was awakening
to feed me its wrath.
Wow.
And it fucking sure did.
Oh,
I thought I was going to die.
It was so disgusting.
That's pretty rotten now.
I gotta say,
we did the same thing
some friends and I
one time
without the crap,
just the urine.
We had a party
over at our friend's house
and just
basically none of us
flushed
and we just kept
pissing in there
over and over again
for like the whole weekend
and I just did this
again by myself
recently,
but
it's even more fun
when you do it
with friends.
We basically had the,
we called it
the communal piss pot
because we all
forgot to flush.
We called it this
after the fact,
of course,
not like in a
worshiping kind of way
but after it was
all over with
because
everybody would just
go in there
and take a piss
and just not flush
basically so you had
this giant
piss soup
and it was just like
all the different,
it was actually
kind of a beautiful thing
because you had
black guy piss
and white guy piss
and shiny,
all the piss
intermingling
in this great
melting pot of urine
and it was really
I was just thinking
it's just like
New York City.
Exactly,
exactly like
New York City
but you had to like
I mean really
seriously your eyes
would water
it's like
the piss would be
in there
and it's not a problem
until that next
when the next pisser
comes in
and stirs it up
and I swear
you ever see like
when you're pumping gas
and gasoline
and that little cloud
comes out
and like everything's
kind of shaky
and blurry
and you can't quite see it
it like distracts
the light
and stuff
that's what it does
when you piss
in the communal piss pot
like this cloud
comes out
it's like this little
nuclear mushroom cloud
and it's like
you'd knock your head back
you have to control yourself
not to piss on the walls
or fall down
because it was just
so fetid
it was the most
rancid smell
ever
it was just
foul
oh that's fucking awesome
oh yeah
that was pretty bad stuff
finally somebody broke down
and flushed it
the end
oh that's no fun
I know
see now
this is the kind of stuff
that the listeners
don't get to hear
we have to save this
for the outtake show
because
this is just
these are too good
of stories
to not ever see
the light of day
yeah so I'm telling you
once I switch to sack free
I'm just not
I'm not going back
everything is so
free
oh um
dude I hear you
I'm telling you
I got the same thing
I ordered like 50 pairs
I got a friend in Germany
to mail them to me
I'm set now
I think we're
on the air
I mean
a friend had a friend
in Germany
and I heard about it
and it was good
exactly
you know what
yeah what I meant to say
was I'm going to be
the US distributor
so that's why
I ordered so many
because
I don't think
that's any better
than saying
you ordered them
for personal use
I was
I was buying them
for
donating to
Goodwill
or something
don't even say
you were going to
give them as Christmas
gifts to your family
because that's gross
I was going to
hand them out
to the homeless people
that are on the
street corners
so we could have
a bunch of homeless
people walking around
sack free
oh my god
that's charity
right there
oh yeah
hey
we all do
our little part
you know
actually
all that we just
said is true
I do have
stock and sack
free
however
OMG sacks
that was the
greatest ever
the only
there's no
not theory.com
is there
I think
I looked at
N Theory
or something like
that a long time
ago
and I think
it's owned
by some math
department
or some
number theorist
group
or some
kind of
nonsense
like that
but I don't
own it
so go there
and go crazy
you're so easily
owned
yeah I know
lame
L4M3
how are you
going to be
dropping Leet
like that
on the show
you can't spell
Leet
this is the radio
you have to
pronounce Leet
I know you
can't spell
Leet
because that's
because you're
from the south
Leet is spelled
L-E-E-T
it's spelled
1337
oh shit
I just got
owned
my Yankee ass
see every time
I've hit the
hope
there's never
been a hot
chick there
so
well it's a
hacking conference
do you really
expect there
to be hot
chicks
at DEF CON
there were
some fucking
hot chicks
really
and they
didn't have
fucking
ear ring
nose
piercing
tongue
piercing
nipple
through the
toenail
kind of
all kinds
of shit
tattoo
some of them
were just
fucking
good looking
chicks
there was
this one
chick
was chilling
out in
the hot tub
fucking
completely
naked
she was
nice
looking
damn
yeah
see now
that's what
I'm talking
about
yeah
and then
the guys
who ran
DEF CON
they're like
you gotta
put your
clothes on
I was like
what are you
doing
oh
fucking
cock blockers
man
that needs
to happen
more often
naked chicks
in a hot tub
dude
yeah
that's why
we need
more of
in this world
there would
be less
wars
and less
problems
if we
had
more
naked
chicks
in
hot
tubs
can I
get
an amen
that is
precisely
why I'm
in the
scene
is fucking
naked
chicks
in the
hot
tubs
that's
what
Rach used
to always
say
I'm in it
for the
chicks
exactly
of course
we're still
waiting
now we had
quite a few
other co-hosts
along the way
who I was
not able to
get a hold
of to do
recordings
for this
final
anniversary
episode
however
that does
not make
them exempt
from the
outtakes
phenomena
so here's a
few random
miscellaneous
outtakes
from different
co-hosts
that we've
had over
the past
season
buddy
hi buddy
alright
every time
you say
buddy
you owe
me a
dollar
why
what are you
Donald Trump
you got a
copyright on
buddy now
I just
filed for
trademark
yeah right
whatever
it only
cost me
four hundred
dollars
so you'd
have to get
people to
say buddy
four hundred
times
yeah to
make the
money back
yeah
what about
people in
IRC typing
the word
buddy as
they listen
to this
does that
count
a quarter
oh it's
a quarter
if you type
in an IRC
it's a dollar
if you say
it out loud
yeah
because when
you just
type in
IRC
like five
people hear
you
but when
you say
it out
loud
you know
a lot
of people
can hear
you
what if
I get
it tattooed
across
my
penis
free
yes
because no
one's ever
going to see
that
well then
when I get
aroused it
says buddy
that was a
long way
for a bad
joke
that was a
long way
for a bad
joke
I don't
care
it's still
funny to
me
hello
hey there
buddy
hey buddy
let me grab
some ice tea
and I'll be
ready
alright
should I
hang on
or call
back
ok
what the
fuck
did anybody
understand that
answer
was that
yes hold
on
or was
that
call
back
ok
I guess
that means
call back
it's like
an episode
of clueless
if you think
about
I'm sorry
steak dog
I just had
like three
phones in my
house ring
while I was
trying to
deliver this
rant
ok
and so
I completely
lost focus
alright
let's
like someone
called my
phone
and it
started
beeping
and then
my
I'm sorry
I'm going
to have
to get
the phone
go ahead
this is
binary
that's right
don't you
forget it
last
sound check
ok
1212
no that's
I'm
trying a
different way
ok
1212
I am here
this is episode
59
Jason Scott
on the phone
Jason or
Jay or do
you care
just Jason
whatever people
want to call
me
Jason is fine
so I can
say my
co-host
today is
Dickface
is fine
Dickface
Esquire
because
practicing law
oh gotcha
gotcha
people are
like wow
who's your
lawyer
and I'm
like oh
Mr. Crowbar
in your
face
Esquire
you don't
want to
talk with
him
alright
I know
I got
myself a
glass of
water
I was
going to
say you
got your
you got
a bottle
of beer
or whatever
your hookah
whatever
I actually
do have
a hookah
here
actually
I was
going to
say you
got your
bong
ready
yep
must have
necessities
before we
start recording
the show
yeah we
actually did
one show
where we
smoke hookah
through the
whole show
okay let's
see
okay this is
hopefully the
last sound
check
blah blah
stank dog
episode 62
fuck me
and my
co-host
on this
fuck me
show is
what up
yo
sound check
test test
use your
normal voice
that we're
going to
record with
man you know
what I really
hate I hate
it when people
go up on
microphones and
they're like
test test
I think I'm
going to
fucking copyright
that
what test
test
yeah or
like check
one two
no so you
gotta check
like dos
effects you
gotta say
microphone
check mic
on microphone
checker
one two
checker
one two
checker
see
gotta do it
old school
style
check yourself
before you
riggity wreck
yourself
gotta do
the old school
mic check
yeah
I think
that's before
my time
staying
I'm sorry
oh you're
a youngin
are you making
fun of my
birthday being
today
yeah I was
I was gonna
mention it on
the show
but
yeah
yeah let's
not give
them
ah fuck
it who
cares
I don't
know
hey what
about me and
my outtakes
though
you love
your outtakes
what's wrong
with outtakes
it makes a
funny show
you love me
some outtakes
I love me
some outtakes
the audience
loves the
outtakes
they like
well first of
all I make
a fool out of
myself anyway
without being
like outtakes
just my normal
shows
you know
so
I have to
have outtakes
to show that
everybody else
messes up
too
I like them
I think they're
funny
yeah I gotta
have a
you know you
gotta have the
traditional clip
show I mean
different strokes
did it
the facts of
life did it
you know
saved by the
bell did it
like every
sitcom ever
invented did it
even punky
brewster had a
clip show
I mean you
don't want to
you know we
gotta do what
all the other
shows do
wow the only
show I knew
you were talking
about was
saved by the
bell
oh man am I
old dude
holy crap I'm
old
I was purposely
trying to come
up I'm like
okay what did
that watch
what about my
two dads
do you remember
that one
I remember
that one
oh that was
cutting edge
TV in the
day
a chick living
with her two
fathers yeah
figured that out
but they weren't
gay
I was nine by
the end of the
80s I was
happy
I don't
remember much
of them
oh man
oh yeah
gotta love the
outtakes
check one two
one two
whoa snap
holy crap that
was loud
and it's gonna
be
I'm drinking
a beer right
now
oh wow
I figured I'd
have some
pre-show
warm up
wait a minute
see I'm not
sure how to
take that are
you telling me
that you have
to drink a
beer do you
have to get
drunk to be
able to take
the torture of
doing binary
revolution radio
no this is for
geek club radio
man I gotta be
loosened for
tonight
oh okay I
gotcha
no I'm like
talking to some
girl right now
that wants me to
photograph her
naked
oh if I had a
nickel for every
time that
happened
I'd have like
25 cents right
now
man how long
are you gonna
keep milking
that line
no it's
it's true man
I got a
photography class
this semester
I know but
come on that's
an awful
convenient line
too
hey you know
girls dig it
too that's
awesome
they're just
like they're
like oh
photography
this girl
goes oh my
gosh she's
like this is
probably my
once in a
lifetime chance
to see myself
and how I
look like that
she's like I
trust you she's
like so anytime
you want to do
it just let me
know
all right
damn it but
see the thing
is what's to
stop me from
trying that I
mean how do
they prove or
know that you're
really in a
photography class
for all I
know you took
a photography class
three years ago
and you're still
milking it
yeah you know
I'm in a
photography class
right now
but I guess I
don't know how
they know
I'm professional
I'm just a good
social engineer
that's all I
can say
oh okay
late I ate
late lunch
you said you
weren't really
hungry
oh I wasn't
really hungry
but you ate
a half of a
pizza
that's correct
I ate a half
of a pizza
what do you
eat when you
are hungry
well actually
you know it's
one of those
Winn-Dixie type
pizzas
those little
I don't know
one of those
little cardboard
pizzas
yeah the
little
the smaller
ones
I guess
they're like
all right
well I think
that's probably
enough outtakes
for this episode
of the show
and it's time
to wrap things
up here on
Binary Revolution
Radio episode
104
we have got
to move on
with the show
and that brings
us to our big
announcement for
this episode
I mentioned
the previous
couple of
episodes that
there would
be a big
announcement
this episode
and it is
time for that
announcement
and some of
you may be
thinking that
we're announcing
that we are
ending the show
well we're not
ending the show
I'm happy to
report we are
going to go
right into
season 3 of
Binary Revolution
Radio starting
next week with
episode number
105 so for
those of you
who wanted
us to end
sorry to
break the
news to you
but we're
going to keep
trying to move
forth with it
however there
is going to be
a little bit
of a change
you see I do
not have the
time to
continue hosting
Binary Revolution
Radio this
weekly show
really takes a
lot of time and
preparation to do
it right and to
do it with the
format that we
have and quite
honestly I have
just run out of
time in life I've
got too many other
things going on I've
got some more
important personal
things to take care
of in life so real
life is taking over
for me so I am going
to be unplugging for
a little while not
only from the show
but just from the
scene in general so
after after my
presentation at
DEF CON July 2005
I am going to be
taking a little
hiatus I don't
know how long it
will be but I
foresee it being for
a good while I'm
going to be around
I'm just going to be
behind the scenes
the site will
continue running the
forums aren't going
anywhere we're still
going to have
everything is going
to continue try to
put out magazines
etc etc but I've
just really had enough
of being in the
public eye as it
were started doing
this show a couple
years ago and even
the early episodes
of Radio Freak
America we kind of
referred to when we
were talking about it
earlier and we
started doing this
show because it was
fun and it was a
small group of people
who had similar
interests and and
were having fun
doing the show and
and the show grew
and that's great to a
certain extent that
there are more people
out there that are
becoming interested in
the show and listening
to the show and if
you're listening to the
show for the right
reasons because you are
interested and you
genuinely want to
learn that's great
and you're more than
welcome to and
hopefully we'll
continue to do that
I try my best to
continue to you know
be accommodating of
people and and things
like that but it's
really starting to
wear on me lately
the negativity that's
come across the scene
the whole point of
Binary Revolution was
to get people together
and stop being solo
creatures stop being
individuals out there
who are all competing
with each other and
fighting with each
other somehow trying to
create a name for
yourself or trying to
to be famous for lack
of a better word in the
hacking scene and it's
it's just been going on
for years it's the you
know it's it's really
what has destroyed the
hacking community over
the past 10 15 plus
years this elitism where
everybody wants to
somehow make a name for
themselves and they all
seem to think that the
way to do that is to
defame someone else and
that's really not our
style here at Binary
Revolution we kind of
have been trying to get
people to understand
that cooperation and
working together and
making friends in the
community that's the way
to really excel and to
learn new things and to
you know get things
done that is what
Binary Revolution is all
about whether it's
Binary Revolution Radio
Binary Revolution Forums
whether it's Binary
Revolution the Magazine
any of the products
that we put out all the
stuff we work on is DDP
it's not about
individuals I come on
here all the time on
the show and I never
ever ever try or intend
to say oh well Stank
Dog did this or so and
so did that I'm trying to
get people involved as a
hacking community I want
people working together
if we work together there
is so much stuff that can
be accomplished out there
and as hard as I try it
seems like every day the
community seems to be
fighting harder against
me to not allow that to
happen there's just a few
people out there that are
very vocally against that
mindset I don't know why or
against that idea they
don't want people to help
they have this idea that
they learned the hard way
and they came up to become
hackers or they think they
are anyway because they've
been around for so long and
they had to learn it all
themselves and figure it
all out look it up and
they think that the act of
helping someone somehow is
is not a justifiable way to
learn and I mean if we can
make it easier for people to
understand hacking and to be
hard part of the hacking
community and the real hacking
community and getting it and
understanding the right and
wrong and hacker ethics and all
that I don't understand how
helping people can be a bad
thing so I am just making one
last plea on my last episode of
the show here to the hacking
community is you know even
though I'm kind of stepping out
for a little while the hacking
community is going to be around
and I hope I really do hope that
you guys help each other as
corny as it may sound I really
hope you try to support each other
and work together on projects no
matter how big no matter how small
get the projects done and let
the project speak for itself
stop trying to put other people
down and bring negativity into
the community we're all on the
same team here we're all in the
same mindset and it's really
really really really the best way
to go for the hacking community and
for us individually to learn and
grow and to educate people if we all
work together so that's my closing
thought I guess for the show I don't
know that we have a closing thought
really but I wanted to get that out
there and I want I do want to
sincerely and you know I guess the
show is getting kind of corny we
have all the jokes and the outtakes
but I do want to sincerely come out
and thank every single person that
listens to Binary Revolution Radio
we started doing this for the fun of
it like I said with just a handful of
people you know and we had you know
a hundred people download an episode
we thought it was fantastic a couple
hundred people as we kind of grew
for those first few episodes and we
thought that was just the coolest
thing because we knew most of these
people it was a small close-knit
community where everybody was fairly
supportive and now there are thousands
of people listening to the show and
it's kind of gotten a little bit
overwhelming and just time for me
personally to move on but over these
two years I have met some fantastic
people so despite the fact that I am
kind of moving back out of the scene
for a little bit it's simply because
I've got real life things to take care
of and I've just got to take a step
back and evaluate my standing and what
it means to me and what my priorities
in life are and you've heard it in this
episode of the show and previous ones
that real life takes precedence it
always does so I'm going to try to take
care of some real life stuff myself but
to everybody out there that's been
along for the ride whether you've been
on for the last one or two episodes or
whether you've been here since the
early days of Radio Freak America and
Binary Revolution episode one whether
you came over from default radio with
our good friends over there that were
doing good freaking radio and so many
shows that I'm so proud of that are on
DDP hack radio they're great shows out
there that are just really putting out
good stuff and doing positive things
for the community and I'd like to see
that continue and to each person
listening thank you because here I am
some guy on a microphone in front of a
computer just talking and trying to
share information and trying to have
fun and enjoy the hacking scene and I do
immensely and I always will and I have to
thank every one of you for allowing me to
do that there are like I said so many
people that listen to this show and are
taking an hour and a half out of every
day or every week I should say to listen
to me bitch and complain and moan and
argue and give my opinions hopefully try to
educate people enlighten people have fun
and joke and you're giving me an hour and a
half out of every week and that's that
really means a lot to me the simple fact
that somebody's willing to listen to me
talk for an hour and a half is very
humbling and it's you know I couldn't be
any more appreciative of that fact I
really really do honestly thank every
single one of you for making binary
revolution a success whether it's the
radio show the forums you know I know
there's a lot of people that only
listen to the radio show and they don't
come out and check out hack TV or they
don't come to the forums they're just
listening to the podcast that's great
too it doesn't matter you know anybody
that supported us in any way shape or
form if you're giving a link to us on
your site thank you for that if you
listen to the show and you never write
to us thank you for that if you're a
listener who writes to us all the time
via email and participates in the forum
and those hack TV and all of the products
we thank each and every one of you if
you've listened to one show we thank you
I thank you personally from the bottom of
my heart and thank you for allowing me
to come into your living rooms and your
iPods and your offices and your assorted
mp3 players and and letting me speak my
mind so the only other thing that I want
to mention before I take leave and
close out the show here is that I want
to give big big big shouts to my good
friend decoder who's been going through
the hardest time of all lately so decoder I
know you probably can't hear this and
probably won't hear this for a while but
when you get out just know that we're
thinking about you and thank everybody
that's you know through this whole
situation everybody's been asking about
you and worried about you all your
friends are asking about you and you
know it was the best thing that we all
kept everything quiet so that we could
all you know everything would work out
for the best for you so hopefully that
has happened and is going to happen and
and as soon as we are available to talk
about that we will do it but decoder you
know thinking about you we've been
thinking about you for the last year and
and hopefully we will hear from you
personally very very soon I think that
is going to do it excuse me that is
going to do it for this episode of
binary revolution radio two years in the
books come back next week for episode
105 the first episode of season three of
binary revolution radio with your new
hosts and if you want to find out who
those hosts are you know that you can
come back next week same hack time same
hack channel
this is dedicated to all the hackers and
the crackers you know what i'm saying if
you hear this i want you to bump this
and do your dirt dog do your dirt you
could fill a stadium with cats who's and
shit cracked by radium liquid sky will
never die before the crackers and the
hackers life was wacka software we could
never stack for we were floored by these
evil whores all the best shit we could never afford
the internet and mp3 they set us free
i'm downloading windows and me right now
off ftp you bitches will never find me
because i'm everywhere see
yo dong you got something new hit me off on
icq i'll help you back and jive i got some top
notch shit on i drive you shut one site down
we multiply like a phoenix from a different
place we rise then you got the squares
yo dude you're stealing don't you care lol bitch i got a terabyte of wares
i like my files zip zip or rare i'll download seven hundred segments from a thousand sites
i'll drink coffee snort speed i'll stay up all night i'll hack the company site and blank and white ghost isps find me please
please
dedicated to the hackers and the crackers
this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers
the ones that set us free
thanks for setting us free
this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers
i see in binary i speak source code
step on my toes i'll post a million jpegs
if you're in a fag pose
in your digital stance getting firewalled ho
cause i'm riding the net in my six foe
i was a dick with my 56
now with my cable i'm able to get that stable
on the out my name is ace and i'm a leo
on the digital highway
my name is neo and i'm a hero
in a flash i'll screw you on burning dreamcast
you need some iso
let me through my hard drive rifle
our exchange you could never stifle
and a digital hug
you just caught the love bug
i bootlegged your cd
i caused a fight between un and jay-z
gonna be free whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
you feel that rattle in your bones
when i tell you we just hacked out jones
and nasdaq leave your pride on your back
cause i am he who loves to hack and crack
this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers
serial codes, source codes, isos, rams, sips, sips
this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers
your encryption is primitive egyptian
i'll do more with a 486 and a plex tour
we've won when the six billion got athlons
and we tell each other how to get it on
cyber armies and the pentagon were storming
i just found out who killed jfa
the smoking gun will have it within a day
all the lies even faster
go check the name truth on napster
digital disaster
the bricks will never find me in this matrix
a million keyboard voices all named morpheus
this is dedicated to those who set me free
gotta buzz, you're always my cuz
radium, if i could only say to them thanks
kalisto, you know
utopia and all my digital dogs
my net dons, my cyber gangsters
my wire warriors, my computer comrades
this is for you
this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers
i wouldn't be able to do shit without y'all man
i've been sitting in front of my fucking computer
doing a goddamn thing playing games
y'all made it possible
this is dedicated to you
dedicated to you
dedicated, this is dedicated to y'all
dedicated to y'all
this is dedicated to the hackers and the crack
this is dedicated
can't you see me
dedicated, this is dedicated
this is dedicated
to the hackers and the crackers
this is dedicated
to the hackers and the crackers
this is dedicated
uh
this is dedicated
uh
We'll be right back.
We're right back.