This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers.
I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you
in a fag pose, in your digital stance, getting firewalls hoes, cause I'm riding the net in
my six foes, I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable,
on the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo, on the digital highway, my name is Neo and
I'm a hero, in a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast, you need some ISO, let me through
my hard drive rifle, our exchange you could never stifle, and a digital hug, you just caught
the love bug, I bootlegged your CD, I caused the fight between Un and Jay-Z, cause CG, it's
all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely, you feel that rattle
in your bones, when I tell you we just hacked Al Jones, and NASDAQ leaves you flat on your
back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack,
this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers, serial code, source code, ISO, RAM, SIF, SIF,
this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers.
Good evening, welcome to Binary Revolution Radio, episode 114, for September 20th, 2005.
I'm Strom Carlson, I'm Black Ratchet, and I'm Dr. Zygman, Dr. Zygman, from the forums
and the IRC channel of Bin Riv, here this evening with us, aren't we just honored?
I feel very honored.
Yes.
If you don't know who he is, obviously you don't hang out on the forums for the IRC enough,
so come hang out, dammit.
Yeah, we're all there, we're cool.
I think the real honor's mine, it's a pleasure to get to work with you gentlemen.
God, you're just a kiss-ass, aren't you?
So, anyway, so, we have a couple of housekeeping items tonight,
and I'd just like to say that the email has once again started to flow, much like the spice.
Yes.
Spice has started to flow, and the email started to flow, and the email is the lifeblood.
And, of course, all the emails this week were all about Strom's question with iPods,
and it's going to be a very, very kind of bland email this week, so.
Very iPod-centric.
Yeah, I expected, like, at least one person to say,
oh, hey, you forgot about meeting X, or, oh, you should really look into this group or something.
Nope, nope, not a bloody thing.
I was all about Strom's iPod scratches.
I feel just honored that the masses are so concerned about my iPod.
Well, my iPod has scratches on it, I just don't complain about it like you do.
Oh, my iPod has scratches on it.
You guys have a contract with iPod now? Is that what you're doing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, iPod, the official digital music player thingy of BinRev Radio or something.
Yeah, so we're going to redo the BinRev logo.
It's going to be all white and have a nice matte finish to it.
Well, no, it'll be white, and it'll be kind of glossy with that, like,
as if there's a light on it from an angle type of thing.
Oh, yeah.
And as soon as you look at it, you will walk it by...
Oh, oh, oh.
Sorry?
Yeah, no, I like Zygmunt.
Zygmunt's talking about, we can start doing commercials.
We can have BinRev Radio commercials.
Oh, yeah, with, like, a pink background and people listening to BinRev Radio in silhouette.
No, I was thinking more of, you know, Zygmunt and for Hack TV.
Hi, I'm Dr. Zygmunt.
Oh, cool.
Are you sick and tired of Kevin Rose?
No offense meant, Kevin.
No comment.
So, I understand, Strom, that you've been someplace this weekend.
Oh, yes.
I went to see Cat's Ex the Musical.
No, no, sorry.
I went to TourCon in San Diego.
That was...
What is TourCon?
Previously, up until you mentioned, I've never heard about it.
It's one of the, I guess, one of the larger, smaller conventions.
This is in Southern California.
There were two tracks of talks.
There was a seminar session on Friday, which I didn't attend because that cost even more.
And there was a vendor area, and there was lots of good stuff.
It was really exciting.
Met some cool people.
Had some good drinks.
We, in fact, Microsoft bought everybody all the drinks they cared to drink.
That just seems wrong.
So, is this like a hacker convention, or is this more...
Yeah.
And Microsoft sponsored it?
Yeah, Microsoft sponsored part of it.
But you weren't allowed to share drinks, right?
What?
Man, you better be pretty sober if you want to read that, EULA, before clicking I Agree.
That was great.
God, I don't know why that joke never occurred to me.
Man, we could just make tons of bad Microsoft puns with alcohol, couldn't we?
Yes, we could.
But no, lots of recognizable faces were there.
The Schmook group was there.
What's-his-face, the guy that wrote in a math theater, was there.
The unforgettable What's-his-face.
Yeah.
Jason Scott was there.
And I'm sure plenty more underground celebrities who I am failing to mention were there.
Oh.
We need someone on the East Coast, man.
We got Schmook on, but we need something in Boston.
Come to that conclusion.
Oh, we do have Vaughn.
That's happening this week in Boston.
I'll kind of harp upon that upon the announcement section.
But for those of you who might be going to Vaughn tomorrow, the VoIP conference in Boston,
I will be attending in the Expo.
I don't know.
Drop me an email or send me an IM if you want to get together.
I will be there along with a couple other cohorts.
Excellent.
We will anxiously await your report on Vaughn next episode.
Yes.
And I'll be at Astrocon in Anaheim sometime next month.
So I'll report back from that.
Oh.
And if any of you are going to...
We'll be here.
Yes, we do.
I'm sorry.
We're talking about telephones.
Everybody.
If you are going to be at Astrocon, send me an email and we'll meet up there or something.
Yeah.
Are you going to be making an appearance, Dr. Zygmunt?
I'm going to be at Freaknik.
Anybody who's going to be going down to that.
Oh, when is Freaknik?
You know what?
I know I have the date not exactly right, but it's right around October 21st.
Somewhere right in that weekend.
I'll have to start working that into the announcements.
I forgot about that.
Freaknik is...
I'm not sure if I can afford to go, but that's something I'm going to have to look into.
I'm curious about who else is going to the...
Yeah, let's price it out.
Everyone who says anything about it, they say it's the Real Drinkers Conference.
Yeah, that's why I'm going.
But I know a bunch of people said they were going to be there.
We're going to try to do some segments for Hack TV or something while we're up there.
So if you want to be famous, you should definitely make your way over.
It'll be like the Today Show.
We'll have Hack TV with a big glass in the back.
Everyone will be having signs saying,
I love you, stank dog.
No, I think the signs will be...
Peoria, Wisconsin says hi to Hack TV.
No, I think the signs will more just be like,
Fear!
Yeah, actually, all these signs will be in LeetSpeak.
Yeah.
Well, any other places that we're going to be going anytime soon?
I don't think so.
My living room?
Yeah, well, my living room.
I'm going to be in my bedroom, sleeping, tonight.
But anyway.
So, okay, let's go into the email theme.
Our first email is from DigitalDD.
I assume that's how you pronounce it.
Hello, Black Ratchet and Strom Carlson.
I forget which of you had scratches on the LCD on their iPod,
but I've used toothpaste and a soft-bristled toothbrush
to remove scratches from the screens on an old U.S. Robotics Palm Pilot,
various cell phones, a Toshiba PDA,
and also from the plastic display on a DVD player.
It doesn't always work, but what it does is make the large scratches much smaller,
so they are barely visible.
I wouldn't use this method on a really soft membrane like on many laptop LCDs.
I haven't tried it, but something tells me it wouldn't work.
The fact is it works on two PDA touchscreens leads me to believe that it has a pretty good chance
of working on the iPod.
That's the end of the email.
No.
So, I've heard that work with products with similar consistencies.
I don't remember where I heard it,
but I do remember hearing the soft-bristled toothbrush and some toothpaste.
I recall back in, I think it was middle school,
I scratched the screen on my calculator or something,
and I was trying to buff it out using toothpaste.
And all that happened was I added more scratches to the screen with the toothpaste.
I believe what you have to do is you have to use something with a very fine grit,
and it just sort of lodges itself into the scratch, and it actually works.
There's all kinds of methods to do it.
It's a home remedy, that is for sure.
But I guess that if you don't want to do a toothpaste,
we can go into the next email from Mr. White.
Hey, guys, here's a product I use to get the scratches out of my iPod,
and it works great.
And it's radtech.us.
With a capital P, mind you.
Yeah, I should tiny URLs, shouldn't I?
Yeah.
You should.
Anyway, radtech.us.
And the cream is spelled C-R-E-M-E dot A-S-P-X.
And what do you think about this, Strom?
Well, I tell you, you're early.
Well, I looked at it, and it looks intriguing.
My only real question is whether the results are similar or comparable to a factory fresh iPod,
like you have right out of the package,
or whether if you hold it in the light, you'll notice all these swirly polish marks on it.
Well, honestly, I think with the way it's going, you're never actually going to get a brand spanking new looking iPod.
I mean, you'll bring it up, and it'll work okay, but it's gone.
It's not coming back.
And actually, on the website, which I am tiny URL-ing right now,
except for some reason my clipboard isn't working correctly,
they actually use an iPod right on the site.
It looks pretty good for their before and after shots, but your mileage may vary.
But what I liked about it is that they included a bright metal refinishing pad
and a couple of polishing cloths, which are, in my opinion, are very handy,
especially if you want to ever restore practice plastics.
They're very handy to have.
And I actually have that tiny URL now, and it's tinyurl.com slash 75golfxrayquebec.
So, thanks, Mr. White.
And, you know, it's not an official product endorsement, as always.
Your mileage may vary, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
If any of you have actually used this thing, please email us and let us know how it actually works for you.
Yeah.
I don't know, Zegman, have you ever restored plastics,
or is this why you're just kind of staying silent in the back?
Well, the closest I ever came to was I did the toothpaste trick.
I've done that plenty of times on different CDs.
But I used to do it all the time.
It worked really well.
And then one day I decided I was using this new toothpaste.
I switched over to Rembrandt, which is not another product endorsement.
But Rembrandt has a grit in it.
It's like, I don't know if it's like, it's like the equivalent of flavor crystals, or whatever it is.
So when I finish buffing, when I finish buffing the CD, I have a nice, healthy, all entirely scratched, ruined CD.
So don't ever use Rembrandt.
Take that Blink-182.
Anything that's smooth works.
And I see those infomercials all the time, you know, where like,
oh, your glasses are scratched? Spray this magical spray on it.
So I don't know how I feel about it.
I guess if I saw it work, I'd be impressed.
But other than that, you know, I'd be more willing to live with a couple of scratches rather than using a product.
Mm-hmm.
Well, yeah.
But apparently Strom is OCD enough to care.
Yeah, it's not really that irritating when you hold them to light.
Does it actually look all scratched up?
But, you know, it's just one of those things where if it's possible to buff it out, I might as well do it, you know.
To be honest, if I hold my iPod up to the light, I really don't want to know what it looks like.
If you hold it against the light, it's opaque.
That's good enough, right?
Exactly.
Out of sight, out of mind.
Our next email says,
Hey, guys.
On the most recent edition of Binary Revolution Radio, Black Ratchet, question mark, mentioned that he had some scratches on his iPod screen.
Well, that was me, not you, but anyway.
While I do not own an iPod, I remember seeing an episode of From the Shadows where they polish the scratches out of an iPod and a PSP.
It works surprisingly well.
Perhaps this is the solution to your problem.
Check it out at fromtheshadows.tv or tinyurl.com slash 8dmxr.
For this specific episode.
That's 8dmxr.com.
Thank you for this specific episode.
Strom and Black Ratchet, I think you guys are doing a great job, and all the freak-related topics gives it a default radio feel at times.
This, however, might be a left-handed compliment.
P.S.
Back on episode 105, Strom stated that he had only appeared on one or two radio shows before BINREV.
He forgot to mention the Hacksaw radio show on which there is a show entitled Strom Carlson Freaks Out, pronounced yawk.
I've got to say, Strom, that's actually the first show I ever listened to you on.
Oh, was it?
Yes, that kind of led me over to here.
Oh, cool.
I've kind of forgotten the details of what that one was.
It was just a very general show.
Actually, all the copies I found stopped after an hour and 20 minutes.
The show officially goes on for another 20 minutes.
Was there anyone on with me?
I don't remember.
You, Lucky, Hairball, Johnny Hackers.
Oh, that.
Oh, my God.
I'd forgotten about that.
I don't even remember that.
It's over a year.
It has to be over a year old.
Over two years.
About a year and a half.
Yeah, ages ago.
So, yeah, that one or two thing was kind of a general estimate.
It wasn't intended to be a wholly accurate recounting of my past experiences.
I mean, it's not like I've got a scorecard here.
A number of radio shows I've appeared on.
This one, this one, this one.
I was actually on Default Radio, and then it closed the next week.
It was very disappointing.
That was my claim to fame for a while.
Last episode of Default.
Well, now it's like second or third to last, but I was on it, and G.I. Joe and I, I believe,
were on it, because we had Collins, and I basically just ranted about Defcon for a while,
and then a week after that, nothing.
A week after that, nothing.
And I was like, oh, my God, he killed it.
And I was like, oops.
Yeah, I haven't actually looked at the From the Shadows thing yet, because none of the
episodes are actually all that specific as to what they contain, so I wasn't sure whether
the links were accurate.
Yes, yes.
So, maybe when I have copious free time, I will look at that tiny URL and...
I'm going to pop a few on to the PDA.
Watch them on the bus.
Oh, cool.
That's what I usually do.
My little mobile media center.
Oh, sweet.
Since I drive to my place of occupation during the day, I really can't do that.
Take the bus.
That's what it is.
Ah, yes.
Living on the bus.
Yeah.
Get off the bus.
That left-handed compliment, though.
That left-handed compliment doesn't bother you guys, right?
You're both ambidextrous.
You do the freak and the computer world.
Well, I'm ambidextrous at some points during the day, but...
Ah.
I think with Strom, he does the computer world sometimes, and the freak world always.
That might be it.
It's a state of mind.
Yes, I am very much a computer geek, and the phone thing is just sort of branched off
from that, and I'm the other way around.
Zikman, actually, have you been on the radio shows, or is this your first one?
I think this is my first radio show.
I'm pretty excited about it.
Wow.
Let's have a moment of congratulations.
Yay!
Oh, I feel the love.
Thank you.
Heart.
I'm sorry.
Less than three.
Anyway, that sort of wraps up the email bag.
It was all iPod all the time.
Yeah.
So, you will have to try these solutions and get back to us, Strom.
I will.
Maybe.
Ooh, maybe I can go on Craigslist or something and ask for iPods Damaged Beyond Repair and
try it on those.
Now, there's actually an idea.
Mm-hmm.
That's a fantastic idea.
There we go.
Project.
Okay.
In fact, I think I might even post this while we're recording.
Aren't you just a wonderful multitasker?
Yes, I am.
Alt-tab.
So, anyway, let's go into show and tell.
Dr. Zikman, what the hell have you been doing lately?
Well, this week, I had the chance to play around with this interesting website.
It was a website for a, and pardon the listeners, but it was for a sex toy shop, an online sex
toy adult toy store.
And they had a really interesting feature.
I brought up the live...
Were you interested in buying sex toys, and that's how you found this website?
No, I was not.
But, uh...
Sure, you weren't.
How did you come across this website, Mr. Zikman?
Yeah, this is a question that needs to be answered.
Actually, I came across it because I was doing a little bit of Google mining.
Oh!
For sites that might possibly be vulnerable to SQL injection.
Ah.
But to get back to...
Yeah.
I'll not make my stupid jokes.
But to get back to it real quick, I had a chance to try out and really work with the
Firefox plug-in live HTTP headers.
Oh, that's a wonderful plug-in.
Oh, it's absolutely fantastic.
And what I was able to do was I put a couple items in my shopping cart.
We're not going to go into what they were, but we put those couple items in.
Did they have two prongs or three prongs on the power side?
It all glowed in the dark, so it wasn't important.
Anyway, look back to your story.
I'm sorry.
This is just way too good to make jokes on.
But what you were able to do was if you were to change the item quantity to a negative number, the balance in the cart you could make negative.
So you would actually have a negative balance in the cart, or you could even it out and have a zero balance and have like negative five vibrators and 15 double-headed dildos, and it would work out that it would be zero dollars or whatever it was.
And they were even nice enough to throw in a free vibrator because of the size of my order.
You know, in case you were buying double-headed dildos for a whole porn set or something.
FinRef Radio, fun entertainment for the whole family.
Yeah.
I'm not really that interesting, so, you know.
It's not like I really own any of these.
So let's see now.
Now, you were playing with the headers.
So it was doing something in the HTTP headers with the quantities, or?
In the URL that was being posted.
Oh, okay.
So it was doing, okay.
Because I haven't played with live headers in a while, but I do remember that it really knocked my socks off.
I've recently upgraded over to the alpha build, and the problem is that none of the plug-ins work anymore.
They started porting it over, but like a lot of my plug-ins have completely stopped working since I moved over to the alpha branch.
And it's highly annoying.
Yeah, so for anybody who hasn't checked out the live HTTP headers, you should definitely check those out.
It'll capture them while you're surfing.
You can see exactly what's going on.
And, you know, every now and then it's always nice to run a little, uh, uh, an Etherroll or whatever your favorite program is,
and just to see exactly what's going from your computer to the server, how the responses are working,
and how you can play with them a little bit.
Because a lot of times people aren't set up, because, you know, that's a very easy bug to fix, you know?
Just make sure you're parsing your input to make sure that there's no negative numbers.
But nobody thought about it.
That's something you really should look into, and that's...
Shame on the developer for that one, and that's something you...
If you're ever even thinking about moving something in production like that,
you should be smacked over the head repeatedly with a large mackerel.
We need a smack sound effect to randomly inject.
Whack! Whack!
Whack!
So, yes, we will state for the record that, once again, that live HTTP headers rules,
except I don't believe they still support, uh, the alpha build of, uh, Firefox yet, which makes me sad.
Oh, and as long as we're going for the record, I don't have a, a huge collection of sex toys.
Yeah, that's it.
Thank you, thank you for pointing that out, because we were thinking that you had the big leather mask on, and...
So, Strom, what have you been doing, Strom?
Let's go move directly over into another subject.
Yeah, well, my personal hacking story actually kind of ties into Dr. Zygmunt.
Uh-oh.
Yeah, yeah.
I was, I went to TourCon this weekend, so that was a lot of fun.
And one of the, one of the presentations was, uh, on something called cross-site scripting,
which, uh, apparently lots of websites are vulnerable to this stuff, and you can actually...
MySpace!
Mm, sorry.
Well, no, like, the interesting thing is, the, the way it works is you actually don't even need to bother writing your, you know,
putting up your own phishing site.
Like, you actually just write your own script, and then inject that into a URL, where, um...
Into a URL, and have the person load up the real, actual web page.
But it runs your script at the same time, so it looks legitimate.
MySpace!
Mm, oh.
Yeah.
Do you have something against MySpace, I wonder?
No, for, for those of you who don't know, and who are playing at home, um, MySpace is one of those social network sites,
and for the longest time, they were just, they, they did absolutely no input filtering, which was absolutely disgusting.
I, I think they've cleaned up their rack.
I, I don't, I, I don't use them, so I don't know, but, like, you could do, like, horrible, horrible things,
like insert JavaScript into, uh, people's, insert JavaScript into your profile,
and also, when people visit your profile, the JavaScript ones.
And for, for those of you who don't really understand the concept of, of cross-site scripting, uh,
it looks, what, what it is, is you visit a website, and that website's running your script,
and attacking the user, so all their cookies that code that website back and forth are essentially yours,
along with, you know, other things.
And if you trust that website more, like, for example, if you say, oh, my bank is trustworthy,
you have the low security settings on it, if your bank somehow gets hacked,
all of your security settings go right out the window, because you trust that website, right?
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, cross-site web scripting is a very nasty, nasty thing.
Let me think, what else did I do?
I also almost hit Dan Kaminsky in the head with a ping-pong ball,
and for that, I want a T-shirt.
And, oh, speaking of T-shirts, at the, at the TourCon, there were, there were these vendors,
there were actually at DefCon, too, where, um, what, what they do is they make T-shirts on the spot.
They have a, a plotter with a cutting blade on it, and they have a sheet of vinyl,
and they cut out whatever design you, you want, and they put it on a T-shirt,
and it lasts just as long, even longer than silk screening, apparently.
So, I now have, possibly, the world's only Bell System T-shirt with the 1964 logo on it.
Soon to be, too.
Soon to be, too, yes.
And, actually, um, I guess I might as well make the shameless plug.
If any of you out there are interested in such a T-shirt, uh, send, send me email,
and I will aggregate them together and save on shipping.
Or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, anyway.
We'll give, we'll give their website out later.
They're, they're a cool company, so.
Uh, oh, what have I done?
Um, I went to the, oh, I forgot the rest of my personal hacking story.
Thank God for show notes.
So, the, so the, the convention did get me interested in some more stuff,
and I'm probably going to do some dabbling with SS7 and mobile phones,
which, uh, if any of you know me, I think mobile phones are actually pretty boring,
but I saw some interesting stuff at TourCon.
And, uh, also smart cards.
So, ooh, we can do, like, a smart card episode.
That'd be cool.
Yeah.
People want smart card questions.
Go send them in.
Yes.
Smart cards have always been really interesting.
A lot of ways on, uh, just how people with nothing but money have been able to microscopically
go in and attach leads and pull things out.
And there's a whole article on, uh, bit flopping.
And I don't know if anybody's had the chance to check that out.
But what they basically do is they take the smart card, and they put it underneath a really bright light.
And there's some whole physics calculation that's involved to get one of the bits to flip from a zero to a one,
or a one to zero.
And the hope is that by doing that, you're going to destroy the security features built into the smart card
and be able to download all the data right off of it.
Oops.
That's awesome.
So they're doing a lot of things with smart cards right now,
because a lot of banks are going really into them.
Uh, a lot of the stuff also applies to, uh, SIM cards.
It's not the exact same technology, but it's similar.
Well, a SIM card is essentially a smart card.
It's a chip on a, on a card and has the same specifications.
Well, it's, it's similar, but I don't believe it's identical.
I believe smart cards have, um...
Well, there are, there are many, yeah.
There are many varieties of smart cards.
Yes, indeed.
Absolutely, yeah.
We'll save this for our smart card episode to be, uh, done at some unspecified point in the future.
Yeah, and I think, I think we'll have Zygman on, because apparently he knows more than both of us.
Sweet.
Oh, smart cards are nice.
Yeah, smart cards are fun.
I, I actually dabbled in smart, my, my laptop has a smart card reader on it, and that, that's pretty cool.
That's very smart.
Yeah, that's very smart.
And I can, I can actually have, if I really wanted to, and in Windows, I can have all my smart card stuff
and use that to authenticate off me, which is really, really weird in my opinion, and I don't use it at all.
So, anyway, um, I went to the flea, as always, as I talked about that.
I did not wear a Hawaiian shirt, because we thought it was going to rain,
and we didn't want to actually set up a table, because we thought no one was going to show up.
But, uh, for those of you who have never been to a flea market, if it rains, no one shows up,
and therefore, you know, to pay to get in is kind of stupid, for selling, that is.
However, the, the day turned out relatively nice, and we kind of had egg on our face,
but next month, third, third, third Sunday, we will, Washington 2600 will be there,
and we have a laundry list of stuff we need to sell, buy, and trade.
So, come on down.
If you're, we've given you a month's notice, so all you people from across the country,
fly on over, and, you know, spend the weekend, and go to the flea.
Yeah, that's it.
Great part.
Um, actually, our, our key acquisition this week was a, was a bunch of old Athlon motherboards,
not too old, it's, they're relatively new, Athlon motherboards and processors,
and a bunch of broken power supplies.
But, most of the motherboards and power supplies, most of the motherboards and processors work,
so, uh, myself, Goresh, the kids, Stalin, we're basically all going to,
set them up, and make cases, and do all kinds of nefarious things with them.
That was, basically, our Sunday consisted of testing that,
which is really fun and really boring at the same time.
So, yeah, I'm not exciting, I don't have anything else to talk about.
So, shall we move into the main topic?
Sounds good to me.
I think it's time.
I think it's time?
Ooh, it's time.
We should, yeah, we should really get a intro song for the main topic.
Yeah.
Something Star Wars-y.
Yeah, we'll, we'll figure something out.
If you have, if you listeners have any suggestions, or things you've written, send them on in.
Yeah, so Strom can listen to them.
Yeah.
Uh, so, our, our show topic tonight is digital video, you know, video, video editing,
and taping, and generally hack TV also, so.
So, this is, this is all Zygmunt, because Zygmunt, in case you didn't know,
I don't think we actually put that on your resume at the beginning of the show,
is Zygmunt is in charge of hack TV, and for, so if it sucks, complain to him.
Uh, and he's, he's in charge of all that, he edits it up, and, do you do, do you do a lot of the taping?
Um, you know, for this, uh, for, I only did the editing for episode two.
I've taken over the project from that point.
So, episode one.
Oh, yes, yes, I, I should have specified that, yes.
Stank did one, uh, Zygmunt did two.
And, uh, I, I didn't do any of the, uh, taping for that one.
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, I, I don't believe I'm doing any of the taping for this next one,
because we have a couple of great submissions, and we have some, uh, footage for it.
Stank has been kind enough to, uh, to, uh, leave to me.
But, uh, really, in the, in the next upcoming episodes,
I'll, I'll end up getting behind the camera and doing a lot more of that.
But, as it's been now, I've just been the man behind the computer.
Oh, great.
Well, that, I mean, that's, that's the people you don't run into.
You don't actually see, but they're the people who get the stuff done.
I know, because I was, I was in TV club in high school.
Yeah.
Back in the day, I was actually one of the first people to probably ever use a digital editing system.
Ooh.
Yeah, I know.
We, computer, well, it was a computer-based analog system.
That's our tax dollars, hard at work.
Yeah, yeah, that is what it is.
Got a killer show.
But, anyway, well, what, okay, let's, let's, let's start off beginning.
What, what, what, what the hell is digital video?
All right.
I guess when you're going to mention digital video, it's really important to talk about
the difference between digital versus analog.
Most of the television that you get in your house is going to be based off of an analog signal.
Now, the difference mainly between an analog and a digital signal is that analog will measure
small fluctuations in whatever medium is being used to send the, to send the signal.
Perfect example is your AM and FM radio.
That's amplitude modulation or frequency modulation.
And that's just small changes in that specific medium.
As opposed to digital, which takes that small, that small fluctuation and actually quantifies it
into a number and uses that to send the signal.
The main difference being when you have an analog signal, you have a lot of noise that can be
from just background radiation, heat, electrical interference, or anything like that.
And all of those are going to make small changes to the analog signal.
It's going to affect the sound.
As opposed to with digital, you're going to end up with, even if you have something that's
a small effect, it's not going to change from the number zero to the number one, because
whatever it's closer to is what the digital medium is going to say that it is.
That's just the nice little intro to the difference between analog and digital.
When we're talking about digital video from the Hack TV perspective, it's the nice, gift-wrapped,
codected up, all that jazz slapped onto somewhere where you can download and watch it on your
computer for the most part.
Where do I get the gift-wrapped version?
I never actually got that one.
I'm sorry?
Where do I get the gift-wrapped version?
The gift-wrapped version?
That's going to be episode 34.
It's going to be gift-wrapped.
Oh, I can't wait.
When's that going to get released?
Like 30, 50?
Something like that.
At the rate we're going.
Well, you guys are turning it out relatively.
I mean, the one to two is a big thing, but three's in the works.
We'll get into that later.
We'll talk about release dates and everything.
Absolutely.
So, okay.
Well, we now know the difference between digital and analog.
So, basically, analog would be like an old VHS tape, and digital would really be like
something downloading off the Internet, or a DVD player.
Or a CD or anything like that.
Yeah, a CD.
A CD is another good one.
Okay.
So, now that we covered that, how the hell did you get into this?
I mean, did you go to school about this?
Are you elite video hacksaw?
Actually, my claim to fame is not video.
But I did, at one point, I went to a middle school that was a performing arts middle school.
I actually went in as a photography special student.
They actually have magnet programs in Florida, where I live.
So, I was a photography magnet student.
I was doing a lot of work in the lab with, you know, enlargers and all that jazz.
And I'm much more of an instant gratification kind of guy.
So, I started playing with the digital.
Exactly.
I started playing with Photoshop, was my first experience into the whole digital foray.
And then, from there, the natural revolution is just to go up through video.
And then, everything else has just been on my own.
Just playing with it.
Every now and then, you know, hey, I'll give you $100 to do this, or whatever.
You know, you never know who you're going to come across.
And it's really just been a great stepping stone.
It's helped got me some money, which is always nice.
Always a plus.
And that's where that comes from.
So, just make me feel old here for a second.
So, what year did you start playing with Photoshop?
I started playing with Photoshop at version 3.0.
So, I'm not sure what year that is.
It's probably...
That's probably about late, early 90s, I think.
I want to say right around 92, 93.
But don't quote me on that.
So, how old are you right now, just to start a curiosity?
Oh, I'm 22.
Okay.
So, okay.
You're not one of those young whippersnappers that we have, you know, hanging out around us.
No, I'm not that quite young.
Yeah, I don't feel compelled to go and buy things like Rogaine at the drugstore now.
Well, we're going to get into the hair-losing situation another time, but, you know.
So, Photoshop was pretty cool.
So, what do you use to kind of...
Photoshop, I mean, is stuff for photos, obviously.
Photoshop.
For images, absolutely.
Yeah, what the heck do you use for video?
Really, one of the main programs that I have used for the actual editing.
We're not talking about converting and codexes, which we'll actually talk about next.
But the main program that I'll use just for my editing is going to be Adobe Premiere.
I mean, Adobe really has, and I hate to say this about a company that charges so much for their software,
but they really have really done a great job with their anything that's digital artwork, I guess, is the way to say it.
But Adobe Premiere has been an excellent product.
I use Adobe Premiere Pro.
They have several versions of that out.
And I actually went up and made a tiny URL, because you can download it,
but we'll get into that when we get to the very end as to things that you might need to collect.
But Adobe Premiere Pro, it's a Windows product.
It's the only reason I still have Windows on my computer.
And I guess now might be a good time to also talk about the Linux options.
I've looked at a couple of them, but they really just haven't struck me as anything that stands out.
But I believe Black Ratchet and Strom, you guys had a little bit to say about that, the Linux aspect?
Well, we've been fooling around with a couple of projects that we've been doing.
Nothing for public consumption.
Don't get yourself excited.
And we were looking at a software program called CINerella, and it's – I don't know the URL off the top of my head.
It's C-I-N-E.
Cinnerella, not Cinnerella.
Cinnerella?
Oh, maybe.
Cinnerella.
Cinnerella is kind of like a –
Yeah, not like the fairytale character.
Cinnerelli, Cinnerelli.
I don't know.
Top of your ad infringement!
No, no, fair-use, fair-use.
So how do you pronounce it?
Do you remember how to spell it?
Because I sure as heck don't.
I think it's C-I-N-E-R-E-L-L-A.
C-I-N-E-L-E-R-R-A
You can use me
So anyway
No, it's
C-I-N-E-L-E-R-R-A
And that's
HeroineWarrior.com
And heroin with an E
So let me go tiny URL
So that's the Linux one
We've never actually fooled around with it
But we're going to start playing with it
So you don't use this, Zygmunt?
You know, I really
And as much as I love Linux, all my systems are Linux
It's just that specific program
I mean, for this specific media
This industry is not really developed
On Linux, and for a long time
It wasn't even developed for Windows
It was all really done for Mac
But as things have changed
You know, as time's grown on
And Microsoft and the
IBM compatible computer
Has really taken more of a hold
Everything has started to move over to there
I would love to see
A nice open source port
Of something like Adobe Premiere
That has all the power
That Adobe Premiere has
And we'll get into some of the effects later
But I just haven't seen that product for Linux
And it breaks my heart
But you've got to do what you've got to do, right?
Yeah
So anyway
The tiny URL I was talking about
Is tinyurl.com
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So
What makes Adobe Premiere so great?
Why can't we use
Well, I mean
What makes you think Adobe Premiere is so great?
This is absolutely my opinion
I don't want to say anything bad about
Anything bad about all the people
Who've worked really hard, I'm sure
On the other Linux versions
I'm sure they're excellent products
A lot of it just comes down to
It's what I've worked with
It's what I'm used to
I know how to use it
And then there are just certain features
That
Certain plugins
That have only been written for Premiere Pro
We'll talk about Steadicam a little later
We'll talk about keyframing
And things like that a little later
That really just
Are smoothest in Premiere
Because they've just been doing it longer
They have a little bit more experience
And you know
It's the almighty dollar
They have a lot more money to spend
On developing this software
Well
Not
Well of course
I mean
You can always say the almighty dollar
And everything
But of course
There's also Linux alternatives out there
And I'll figure out Cinderella
I just need a better computer
To actually turn it on
Because I think
If I remember correctly
It's a bit of a hog
So
Okay
We'll have to play with it
Yeah
Well I mean
We'll all have to play with it
And basically
Adobe Premiere
You'll have a free download
But of course
And I have that tiny URL for you now
You can actually download a trial version
That's going to be
TinyURL.com
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I don't know what that is
In fancy talk
Okay
So is that
2 November
Bravo
Uniform mic
Yes
That's exactly correct
Alright
See look at that
I even heard
Download that free trial
Of Adobe Premiere Pro
How long is your free trial for?
You know
I think
I think it's 30 days
But don't quote me on that
It might be 15
I'm not exactly sure on that
So
Adobe wants its money
Look at it that way
Adobe is a bit of a
Adobe products
They're expensive
But they're
They're almost always worth it
I love PDF
As a developer
Look at it that way
And PDF
There's all kinds of stuff
So
Okay
So we have
We have a show
We want to edit
So
Let's start
Walking through it
We have all the shows
How does Hack TV work?
Alright
We'll jump into
One specific
A couple of specific
Attributes of Hack TV
Things that we had to do
For that one
For Hack TV 2
That everybody got to see
It was an excellent episode
In my personal
Humble opinion
And there were
A lot of things
That the end users
Really didn't have to see
And deal with
That really became part of it
And why a program
Like Adobe Premiere Pro
Is really going to help
In something like this
One of the first things
Is a lot of
The segments are filmed
By Stank
He does a great job
But he has
I don't know
What he's got
Some sort of disease
That he shakes like crazy
Every time he's taken
He's taken the videos
And I'm sure
You know he's underground
You know he's trying
Not to get caught
Doing whatever
But
Repelling off the sides
Of buildings
And taking down
The Kremlin
And
The feature
That gets rid of that
Well the first thing
That we used
Is a filter
It's a
A plug-in
By the name of
Steadicam
And you know
Forgive me
I don't know
The name of the people
Who make it
But what it basically does
Is it looks at the shake
And takes some of the shake out
Basically the trade off
You make
Is sometimes the images
Are a little sharp
And a little grainy
I'm sure you guys saw that
Especially in the
Remote terminal part
You can see how sometimes
It's a little sharp
It's a little grainy
And that's because
Of that specific filter
We had to use
I actually
I did notice that
I just thought
It was a codec problem
No
That's exactly the reason why
Is because of this filter
That's the side effect
It's more or less
It's the price you pay
To steady up your video
So the lesson is
There's always trade off
Exactly
Another thing that we
Really had to use
Was
You saw a lot of the blurring
Blurring in Adobe Premiere Pro
And every program in the world
Is the hugest pain in the ass
That you can possibly imagine
You know
You see it in cops all the time
When they like blur faces
That's a lot harder
Than it looks
But what you can do
Is you can make the computer
Work for you
It has to do with
Maths and key frames
We'll get into right now
I guess is a great time
Basically what you do
We'll take one segment
Was the actual
The numbers and the data
That was right above
The remote terminal
It was those orange
And brown letters
That you couldn't see
Because they were blurred out
The first thing we do
On a segment like that
Is
We take
Basically a white box
We put it right on top
Of that
Of whatever it is
We're going to cover
And we use what's called
Key framing
My method
And some people
Will disagree
Is I do
First thing
I do
A frame that covers it
In the very beginning
And you have to do this
Frame by frame
In the very beginning
We'll cover it
And then at the very end
We'll cover it again
And then I'll split it in half
And then I'll find that place
That covers it
I'll split that in half again
And I'll find a point
That covers it
And you keep doing that
And by doing that
Enough times
The theory is
You're going to let the computer
Do the work for you
These are what key frames are
It's a key point
That I'm telling the computer
I want you to move my mat
Which is my little white box
From point A
To point B
And you're going to do
The work for me
So instead of me
Having to sit there
For 29.97 frames
Per second
I can just have the computer
Move it around for me
29.97
Can't they just round that up to 30?
Yeah
Can you explain the whole
29.97 frame thing
At some point
Because that's always confused me
We'll get into the frame rates
And stuff like that
Alright
Just to finish up
The blur real quick
Is once you have
That white box
That clears everything out
You go ahead
And you cut it out
Into a separate segment
And that's your mat
You take a copy
Of the original segment
And you blur that
Using usually
Mosaic
Or pixelate
Or anything
That's going to really
Crystallize
And make it
Unviewable
Then you go ahead
And you drag back
In your other segment
So that you have your mat
And everything in the same
Little image lineup
Your video lineup
Then you go ahead
And you apply
Your track mat
Filter
And a couple other things
That you can really
Easy see online
It's tough to explain it
But once you set
All those filters up
Then you go ahead
And you get the blur
And you get that nice
Moving blur
That's always nice to see
And that really is
The main reason
The main reason why
Hack TV took so long
To get out there
Is because all those
Blurs
Even though I can
Keyframe it
I still have to go through
And watch it
Frame by frame
By frame
That three minute
Or four minute segment
That you all saw
Was easily
Two weeks worth of work
Just to get that in there
And that's not counting
Just for three minutes
Of blurring
Absolutely
And then when you
We'll talk about rendering
A little later
But you're really getting to
Painstaking and
Mind numbing work
And it's really
Could you imagine
Having to actually do it
Frame by frame
It's the beauty of keyframes
And that kind of
Covers that
So that's like
That's like eight steps
No kidding right
That's
How
Each
Those eight steps
Take about like
Oh
Just like a couple of days
Each
And wow
I'm sorry
I'm just kind of impressed
The thing that really
Takes a while
Is just to move that
Mat around
It's a lot easier
Of course with people's faces
Because you can
Blur out a lot more
But when you have something
That's a pretty specific size
You have to rotate it
When the camera turns
You have to move it
From side to side
You have to make it
Larger and smaller
When people zoom in
And zoom out
And I mean
As much as
I really like Stank
You know
It's
It just wasn't something
That was considered
While it was done
And it's
One of the main reasons
Why it just took so long
To get together
We're going to start
The
Get Stank
A
Tripod fund
He does a good job
With it though
We all like him
Oh yeah
We all do like him
And you know
Basically
Even if you say
That Stank sucks
Basically you probably
Do the same exact thing
Unless you have hands
Like a surgeon
Trust me
Absolutely
So
How fast is your computer
That does this
My computer at home
And this is
We're going to get
Into rendering here
It looks like
Okay
When
My computer at home
And I love my setup
It's dual monitors
Which makes it a lot easier
Especially for video editing
It's a 2.8
I have a gigabyte of RAM
A six
I'm sorry
A 500 gigabyte hard drive
That I use for
The video editing
It's a RAID 0
You guys want to talk
About RAID real quick
What exactly that is
A quick introduction
To RAID for people
Would be
A RAID 0
Is basically
You take two hard drives
And your computer
Sees them as one hard drive
So instead of
You know
Two 250 gig hard drives
You'd have
One 500 gig hard drive
And it's faster right
It's Stripe
Yes
It's faster
Because what your computer
Can do
Is your computer
Can read from
Two hard drives at once
So it says
Hard drive one
Get me data A
And hard drive two
Get me data B
And it can have
Data A and B
All at once
And that really
That helps with the rendering
I have that
500 gigabyte hard drive
The 2.8
I'm not sure
If RAID 0
Does that
To be honest with you
I know RAID 1
Does that
It might be RAID 1
You know
I don't really know
I'm not sure
Whatever the one
That Stripes is
But just
And to render a scene
That was as complex
As that remote terminal
Where you had
Various blurs
Something like that
Even on that computer
It took at least
I think it was
Nine and a half hours
To render
And what rendering is
Is it's taking
Every single frame
And applying
All the effects
That you spent
All that time doing
And spitting it out
As a
Whatever format
You tell it
To spit it out in
Wow
And this is really
Where you get into
Clustered computers
You look at a movie
Like Titanic
Everybody thinks
Because I don't think
That's done on a P4
Well that's actually
Done on a cluster
That was done
On a whole series
Of computers
That were connected
Together
Because it got to
The point where
You know what
They ran out of money
And they didn't want
To keep throwing money
At this problem
So they basically
Took a whole bunch
Of regular computers
You know maybe
They're only 1 gigahertz
2 gigahertz
I'm not sure
On the exact
Details about it
But they created
What's called
A rendering farm
And a lot of that
Goes into
What are they called
Beowulf clusters
Yes
How do those work
Well what Beowulf clusters
Is are
Basically I have
A
I have a desktop computer
And I have another
Desktop computer
And I have another
Desktop computer
And all these computers
Work independently
And what a Beowulf computer
Is
Is a
Linux
I wouldn't call it
A distribution
But it's
The brief
Time I used it
Which was like
Back in like
1999
I had a
I had a nice
Big stack
Of 486's
That were being
Retired
And I recently
Read about it
So what it was
Is you have
One computer
That was designated
A master computer
That was in charge
Of all the clustering
And like
For example
I
You take all the computers
And you plug them
Into the network
And what it is
Is you need to actually
Have a nice big fat pipe
For this
Because what you're
Going to do on it
Is because you're
Transferring gobs and gobs
Of data
And you want to do it
Really really fast
So there's one computer
That's a master
And then you have like
X computers
That are a slave
And what you do
Is you boot all
These computers up
With a specialized
Floppy disk
That I had
And it all looks
For the master
And it talks
To the master
And what the master
Does is basically
You give the master
A task
And it just
Distributes the load
Between all of the
Slave machines
So what it is
Is
You're splitting the load
Up
Instead of having
One computer
Work on it
All the time
You're having
Eight computers
Work on it
All the time
So therefore
You're going to be
About eight times
As faster
Give or take
There's overhead
Involved
So
And plus
Eight computers
Is nothing on the cluster
What was that
Supercomputer cluster
Down on like
University of Virginia
It has like
Fifteen hundred
Mac G3s in it
And they're all
Like dual cores
Or dual processor
Or something
And it's just
Row upon row
Of these
Not G3s
Like G5s
Or something
The Xers
That's what they were
The Xers
When they first came out
They had a delay
Because University of Virginia
Bought like
Fifteen hundred of them
Like they took
Like their entire
Inventory that Apple had
Their itty bitty one
And they say
Make us all of this stuff
And they all just
Clustered them
Together
So it's this
Incredible supercomputing
Complex
And it's a whole lot
Cheaper than actually
Getting a supercomputer
To do it
So basically
You just have
A whole bunch
Of processors
That you're just
Getting nothing
But raw
Bone crunch
And power
Out of it
Right
Exactly
They don't
They don't do
Anything else
Except the tasks
You tell them to
What I actually did
Is I did some
Very basic
On my
Cluster of 486s
Was some
Very basic
Computer graphics work
Like 3D modeling
And everything
POV ray
And what not
I mean that's
An excellent
Example of what
You would really
And this is
One of those
Things that
Clusters are
More and more
I think
Madagascar
Was another movie
That was made
Almost entirely
On clusters
Because it's
So much
Cheaper
To have
You know
100
One gigahertz
Computers
Than it is
To really
Invest in
That supercomputer
That's going
To be obsolete
In who
Knows how
Long
I believe
The biggest
Cluster
That I can
Always think
Of is
People over
At Pixar
Who do
Disney's
Computer graphics
Work
They have
Room upon
Room of
Computers
I believe
They're Intel
I'm not
Sure exactly
What their
Specs are
But the
Funny story
I heard about
Them is
They lost
The air
Conditioning
Unit one
Day
And it
Was a
Mad scramble
To shut
Them all
Off
Because within
15 minutes
The computer
Room went
From a
Balmy
63 degrees
Or so
All the way
Up to
110
And that
Was 15
Minutes
Wow
Yeah
That actually
Happened at
My office
One time
We had a
Data center
Across from
My office
And on
The same
Floor
Building
And the
Air conditioning
Unit broke
And literally
We walked
In there
And we
Were for
The next
10 minutes
Running around
Madly
Trying to
We couldn't
Shut any
Systems down
We had to
Madly find
Fans
And we
Were all
We were
Busy trying
To blow
Cool air
Into the
Room
And circulate
The hot
Air
Out of
The room
And
Yeah
That's one
Of those
Oh shit
Moments
What a
Mental picture
Oh yeah
I believe
I wasn't
Actually part
Of
I wasn't
Actually there
When it
Happened
But I
Believe we
Had a
Similar
Situation
Like that
In our
Server room
And oh
It was
Interesting
From the
Stories I
Heard
And it
Was basically
You know
Either shut
The computers
Off
Or point
Fans
At them
Well I
Guess we
Now would
Be as
Good a
Time
As any
To go
Into
As long
As you
Talk about
Raw
Processing
Power
To go
Into
Exactly
What codecs
Are
Okay
What are
Codecs
Alright I'm
Sure
What's a
Codec
That everybody
Knows about
You have
The MPEG
4
You have
DivX
Anything
Else
That you
Guys
Could
Think
Of
DivX
MPEG
AVI
I've seen
Various
Codecs
On AVI
So I
Think AVI
Is more
Of a
File
Format
Yeah
AVI
Is a
File
Format
QuickTime
Of course
Is a
Big
One
QuickTime
Yep
Anyway
There's tons
Out there
H.264
That's the
New one
That's coming
Out
Basically
You know
Take a
Bag of
A thousand
Marbles
And for
Each one
There's a
Codec
Exactly
Absolutely
Well what
A lot of
These codecs
Are doing
And I
Guess we'll
Hit the
Audio part
Of it
Real
Quick
Something
Like
MP3
Is a
Little
Bit
Different
Than
A
Lossy
Codex
And what
That means
Is that
You're
Willing
To
Lose
Some
Data
Or
In
This
Case
Some
Music
In
Order
To
Compress
The
File
What
MP3
Does
Is
And
Don't
Quote
Me
On
The
Exact
Range
Of
Human
Hearing
But
I
Think
It's
Something
Like
16
Or
8
Hertz
Up
To
Like
10
Thousand
Hertz
Or
You
Don't
Quote
Me
On
The
Exact
Figure
But
What
MP3
Does
Is
It
Will
Really
Chop
Out
Anything
That
The
Human
Ear
Can't
Hear
So
Basically
You're
Losing
That
Data
Which
Is
Why
A lot
Of
Times
If
You
Make
A
CD
Out
Of
MP3
As
You
Try
To
Play
It
In
Your
Car
You
Don't
Really
Feel
The
Music
As
If
You
Would
If
You
Were
Just
Playing
A
Store
Bought
CD
You
Get
Around
That
With
Bit
Rates
And
Things
Like
That
But
That
Excellent
Definition
Of
A
Lossy
Codex
Speaking
Of
Codex
Now
That
You're
Talking
About
Audio
Another
Wonderful
Example
For
Us
Is
The
Codex
That
We
Use
During
Our
Asterisk
Presentation
Same
Concept
It's
Basically
You
Cut
Little
Bits
Out
Of
The
Data
And
The
Smaller
They
Are
The
More
They
Sound
Like
Crap
Exactly
Well
What
Video
Does
Is
Standard
Video
Is
Recorded
In
RGB
Which
Is
Red
Green
And
Blue
Those
Are
The
Three
Primary
Colors
That
Are
In
Video
And
What
Happens
When
You're
Using
A
Codex
On
A
Video
Is
You
Actually
Convert
It
Into
What's
Called
Y
CBCR
And
That's
A
Color
Format
The
Y
Is
For
Luma
Which
Is
Short
For
The
Lumination
The
Brightness
Basically
How
Do
I
Have
No
Idea
Where
That
Comes
From
To
Be
I
Just
Call
It
L
B
C
B
R
I'm
Sure
L
Was
Taken
And
Then
You
Have
The
CBCR
Which
Is
The
Chroma
Which
Is
The
Actual
Color
You
Know
How
Much
Red
How
Much
Green
How
Much
Yellow
What
Exactly
Is
This
Color
Made
Up
Of
And
From
There
They
Go
A
And
They
Do
A
Process
It's
Called
Chroma
Sub
Sampling
Down
Sampling
Which
Is
That
Loss
That
I'm
Sorry
The
Lossy
Codex
That's
Where
You
Get
Into
A
Lot
Of
That
And
From
There
It's
Broken
Down
Into
What
Are
Called
Macro
Blocks
Those
Are
Usually
Those
16
By
16
Blocks
Sometimes
You
Have
Different
Sizes
But
16
By
16
Is
Pretty
Standard
And
What
That
Is
Just
Doing
Is
Taking
Your
Big
Image
And
It's
Breaking
It
Down
Into
Smaller
Pieces
And
Those
Smaller
Pieces
Are
What
Going
To
Actually
Be
Encoded
Into
Video
And
If
You
Ever
Look
If
You
Ever
Downloaded
A
Video
That
You
Were
Legally
Allowed
To
Download
Like
Hack
TV
Absolutely
Although
This
Doesn't
Happen
With
Hack
TV
Something
That's
Of
A
Lot
Lower
Quality
If
You
See
A
Scene
And
It
Cuts
To
Another
Scene
And
Then
You
See
The
Blocks
On
Your
Computer
Screen
That's
Exactly
What
You're
Seeing
Those
Blocks
That
Don't
Quite
Fit
They're
A
Different
Color
Or
They
Look
Like
They're
From
The
Last
Scene
A
Lot
Of
That
Is
Exactly
And
A
Lot
Of
That
Is
Also
Because
Of
What
Is
What's
Called
Motion
Compensation
I
Feel
Smart
By
Knowing
That
One
Exactly
And
What
Motion
Compensation
Really
Comes
From
And
This
Is
Really
What's
Going
To
Save
You
A
Lot
Of
Data
And
A
Lot
Of
Space
On
A
File
Is
If
You
Have
A
Video
And
It's
A
Picture
Of
A
Guy
And
His
Dog
On
The
Beach
Throwing
A
Frisbee
The
Sky
Is
Always
Going
To
Be
Blue
The
Clouds
Are
More
Or
Going
To
Be
In
The
Same
Place
The
Ocean
Is
Going
To
Be
Blue
And
The
Sand
Is
To
Be
White
Yellow
Whatever
Color
You
Want
To
Call
It
And
The
Computer
Knows
This
The
Computer
Says
Hey
Don't
Change
This
Stuff
Okay
Just
Leave
It
Up
There
For
The
Most
Part
But
You
Also
See
That
You
Have
This
Guy
Who
Is
Running
He
Throwing
His
Frisbee
And
The
Dog
Is
Catching
It
This
Is
The
Actual
Motion
That
You
Need
To
Be
Continually
Rendering
So
What
A
Computer
Is
Saying
And
Compression
Is
Really
Come
From
They
Have
Fancy
Words
For
That
Like
Discreet
Cosine
Transform
And
The
Quantonizing
Of
Everything
And
The
Entropy
Encoding
But
Basically
This
Is
Where
You
Really
Going
And
Then
From
There
You
Have
Your
Completed
Your
Nice
Happy
MPEG
File
And
By
You
Having
The
Codex
On
Your
Computer
That
You
Need
To
View
This
Specific
Codex
Or
This
Specific
File
You
Doing
The
Packets
You
Are
Taking
All
The
Data
And
You
Are
Just
Turning
It
Back
Into
An
Image
You
Are
Going
To
Lose
Some
Quality
Because
It
More
Frequently
Updates
The
Bigger
The
File
Is
Basically
Yeah
That's
Really
Going
To
Do
It
For
You
If
You
Shoot
If
You
Can
Use
The
Codex
On
Two
Different
Movies
That
Are
Exactly
The
Same
Size
One
Of
Is
The
Picture
Of
Just
Paint
Drying
On
A
Wall
And
The
One
Is
Some
High
Speed
High
Action
Car
Chase
That
High
Speed
High
Action
Car
Chase
Is
Going
to
Be
A
Bigger
File
Because
There's
More
Data
Because
You're
Not
Going
To
Be
Able
To
Do
That
Motion
Compensation
You're
Not
Going
To
Have
Just
The
Constant
Color
Every
Time
Something
Is
Updated
Is
When
It's
Written
Back
Into
The
Codex
That's
Pretty
Cool
And
I
Don't
Get
That
On
My
Cable
Though
Yeah
And
I
Gotta
Download
Those
Episodes
But
I
Feel
Guilty
On
That
So
Wow
That's
Pretty
Interesting
So
How
Hard
Is
All
This
Stuff
I
Mean
Can
I
Basically
I
Don't
Think
I
Can
Sit
Down
On
My
P3
733
Here
And
Do
It
But
If
For
Example
If
I
Had
A
Fast
Computer
Can
I
Do
It
Well
You
Know
What
Even
If
You
Have
A
Slow
Computer
You
Can
Still
Do
It
The
Only
Price
You're
Going
To
Pay
Is
You
Know
What
It
Might
Take
Three
Days
To
Render
That
Scene
It
It's
Not
Unheard
Of
I've
Had
Not
For
Hack
TV
But
I've
Had
Projects
Before
Where
It's
That
Rendered
For
Seriously
An
Entire
Week
And
If
Your
Computer
Slower
I
Mean
That's
Just
The
Price
You
Pay
You
Really
I
Guess
If
You're
Going
To
Say
Minimum
System
Requirements
To
Not
Want
To
Bang
Your
Head
Against
The
Wall
I
Probably
Say
A
1.5
RAM
Is
Key
Here
Because
The
More
RAM
You
Have
The
Better
Things
Are
Going
To
Move
For
You
While
You're
Actually
Doing
The
Editing
But
You're
Probably
Looking
At
Something
Like
Right
Around
500
Megabytes
Of
RAM
And
A
1
A
1.5
Gigahert
Machine
And
You
Can
Definitely
Do
This
At
Home
There's
A
Million
Excellent
Tutorials
Out
There
That
Tell
You
How
To
Do
Specific
Things
Like
How
Do
I
Get
That
Matrix
Effect
And
How
Do
I
Blur
His
Face
And
How
Do
I
Use
The
Brightness
And
Contrast
Filters
And
All
That
Jazz
How
Do
I
Be
Like
Neo
How
Do
I
Be
Like
Neo
That
You
Need
More
Than
One
Camera
To
Do
It
Well
Yeah
I
Think
That's
Kind
Of
Complicated
That's
Not
All
Adobe
Premiere
For
You
No
But
We're
Talking
More
About
That
Scrolling
Green
Text
Going
On
Top
Of
Things
Because
Like
In
The
Matrix
They
Had
The
Scene
I
Guess
In
The
First
One
At
The
Very
End
Where
They
See
The
Agents
And
They're
Standing
In
The
Hall
And
They
Have
The
Green
Text
Flowing
Over
Them
Something
Like
That
Is
Very
Easy
To
Do
In
Adobe
Premiere
It
Just
Takes
You
Know
What
You
Do
You
Got
To
Have
A
Couple
Of
Clicks
This
And
That
And
Yeah
It's
Not
That
Difficult
And
We
Really
Like
To
See
A
Lot
Of
People
Doing
It
Wow
Okay
Holy
Crap
I
Had
No
Clue
About
Any
A
Good
90%
Of
The
Conversation
So
It's
A
Fair
Trade
Off
There
We
Go
We're
Enlightening
People
And
You're
Enlightening
People
So
We
Can
Lighten
People
Together
Nice
So
I
Guess
The
Big
Question
On
Everyone
Lip
Is
When
Is
Hack
TV3
Coming
Out
Oh
Hack
TV3
Hmm
Really
What
We're
Targeting
For
Is
A
Late
September
Early
October
Release
Wow
That
Fast
Yeah
I'm
Just
Waiting
On
A
Couple
More
Clips
A
Couple
Things
Submitted
Clips
Especially
We
Have
One
From
Booter
That's
Coming
Out
That
I
Just
Want
To
Say
Hello
To
Booter
I
Really
Appreciate
You
Doing
This
Recording
And
Sending
It
To
Me
Because
That
Means
I
Don't
Have
To
Record
It
But
There's
A
Couple
More
Clips
We're
Waiting
I've
Always
Had
A
Deal
And
I
Guess
Now
Is
Raw
DVD
If
You
Can
Do
It
Which
Is
Basically
Means
No
Codex
Uncompressed
Video
Uncompressed
Audio
That
Way
We
Can
Get
That
Nice
High
Quality
That
Hack
TV
Has
Any
Editing
That
I
Do
I
Will
Always
Send
The
Clip
Back
To
You
Before
It's
Included
So
You
Will
See
The
Clip
Your
Clip
As
It
Edited
As
It
Will
Appear
And
If
You
Have
A
Problem
With
It
You
Know
Hey
You
Know
That
Part
Is
A
Little
Shady
I
Don't
Know
If
I
Want
To
See
That
And
Whatever
I'm
More
Than
Happy
To
Work
With
You
On
It
A
Great
Place
To
Upload
Them
So
That
You
Don't
Have
To
Use
Your
Own
Bandwidth
Is
FTP
Binrev
Dot
Slash
Incoming
I
Have
Access
To
That
Thanks
To
Nick
84
I
Appreciate
That
Yeah
He's
Don't
Edit
The
Video
That
You
Send
To
Me
Oh
I
Mean
You
Know
We're
Talking
About
Hack
TV
But
At
The
Same
Point
If
This
Is
More
Of
We'll
Be
Happy
If
You
Send
Stuff
Up
For
Hack
TV
But
If
You
Want
To
Do
A
Stamp
Collecting
I
Don't
Know
What
Other
People
Do
A
TV
Show
On
This
Is
The
Stuff
You
To
Learn
If
You
Want
To
Do
Something
On
This
Feel
Free
To
Submit
Your
Stuff
To
Hack
TV
But
If
You
Think
Hack
TV
Sucks
Go
For
The
Gold
Do
It
Yourself
I'm
Going
To
See
A
Line
From
Jason
Scott
Just
For
A
Second
He
Says
And
For
Any
Who
Don't
Know
Who
Does
The
BBS
Documentary
He
Says
That
He
Hopes
That
The
BBS
Documentary
That
He
Put
Together
Is
The
Worst
BBS
Documentary
That
Ever
Comes
Out
And
I
Feel
The
Exact
Same
Way
About
Hack
TV
I
Hope
Hack
TV
Is
The
Worst
Hack
Show
That
Ever
Comes
Out
Because
There's
Going
To
Be
A
Million
More
And
They're
Just
Going
To
Kick
My
Ass
I
Can
Just
Say
So
Many
Bad
Things
Right
Here
But
I'm
Not
I'm
Not
I
Bought
A
Copy
Of
Oh
Jeez
God
Did
I
Got
This
Cold
Kevin
Rose
Um
So
Okay
Well
I
Mean
You're
Talking
About
Submitting
Stuff
To
Hack
TV
What
Kind
Of
Stuff
Do
You
Want
Um
Really
Anything
That
You
Think
That
Could
Really
Be
Of
Interest
To
Other
Hackers
People
Who
Are
Of
The
Same
Mindset
It
Doesn't
Have
To
Be
You
Sitting
in
Front
Of
A
Computer
You
know
Hax
The
Gibson
Although
You
Know
That
I
Don
No
My
Gibson
Is
Pretty
Lead
You
Have
The
Full
3D
Graphics
For
Directory
I
Like
Fly
Over
The
File
System
It
It's
Pretty
Sweet
But
Like
With
Just
Anything
That
Maybe
Not
Even
Thinking
About
It
As
Something
That
Hackers
Would
Be
Really
Interested
In
But
If
It's
Really
Just
If
It's
Going
To
Teach
People
Something
It's
Going
To
Be
Information
That's
Not
That
Commonly
Known
That
People
Had
To
Go
Out
There
And
Figure
Out
Anything
Like
That
Is
An
Absolutely
Excellent
Segment
Something
That
Really
Makes
You
Look
At
It
And
Be
Like
You
Know
What
That's
Something
That's
Very
Interesting
I
Wish
I
Would
Have
Thought
Of
That
Anything
Like
That
And
Even
If
You
Don't
Want
To
Do
A
Hack
TV
Segment
And
I
Hate
To
Jump
Off
This
Topic
Again
Even
If
You
Have
A
New
Way
Of
Using
Nmap
You
Can
Make
A
Quick
Little
Video
You
Can
Edit
It
Up
At
Adobe
Premiere
A
Great
Screen
Capture
Program
Have
Either
Of
You
Guys
Used
This
It's
Called
Wink
That's
A
Free
Open
Source
Program
For
Linux
And
Windows
They
Have
Both
Versions
And
That
Basically
Is
An
Excellent
Screen
Capture
Utility
And
You
Know
What
If
You
Want
To
Do
A
Screen
Capture
And
Send
It
Into
Pack
TV
It's
Definitely
Going
To
Be
At
Least
Considered
I
Mean
We're
Definitely
Not
Going
To
Be
Elitist
About
It
If
You
Got
Something
Cool
We
Definitely
Want
To
See
It
Anything
New
Anything
That
You
Know
Maybe
Everybody
Knows
How
To
Do
It
But
When
Was
The
Last
Time
Somebody
Showed
What
It
Was
Like
To
Do
With
Something
That's
Crazy
That's
Like
That
Tandem
Stacking
Yeah
Exactly
When
Was
The
Last
Time
Anybody
Done
It
How
Many
Of
Us
In
Our
Lives
Have
Actually
Seen
It
Done
Or
Heard
The
Sound
Of
Tandem
Stacking
Other
Than
Strom
Those
Are
Available
On
PhoneTrips.com
Yes
We'll
Just
Toss
That
Plug
Out
There
And
That
Sort
Of
Answers
My
Next
Question
I
Don't
Have
A
Video
Camera
How
Can
I
Help
And
I
To
Me
Narrate
While
I
Move
My
Mouse
Across
The
Screen
And
Go
Yeah
I'm
Leap
I
Can
Move
A
Mouse
And
You
Can
Make
Your
Own
Music
Behind
It
With
Something
Like
Adobe
Audiology
Or
Fruity
Loops
I
Believe
Is
The
Program
It's
An
Excellent
Mixing
Program
I
Believe
Adobe
Is
Called
Audition
Oh
I'm
Sorry
My
Apologies
Yes
But
Also
Another
One
Out
There
Free
Is
Oh
I'm
Completely
Drawing
A
Blank
And
I
Feel
Audacity
Thank
You
And
That's
What
Stank
Uses
To
Edit
The
For
This
Bin
Rev
Radio
Exactly
Who
Is
This
So
Yeah
So
Wow
So
Okay
Let's
Give
That
Download
Again
For
Adobe
Premiere
Is
There
Anything
Else
You
Want
To
Talk
About
I
Think
We
I
Think
The
Only
The
Only
One
More
Thing
That
I
Want
To
Mention
Is
The
Program
That
I
Usually
Use
Because
I
Really
Like
This
One
The
One
That
I
Usually
Use
To
Convert
Between
Formats
I
Really
Happen
To
Recommend
Ultra
AVI
Converter
It
Is
A
Windows
Program
It
Just
Kind
Of
Fits
In
With
The
Whole
Motif
You
Can
Get
It
From
Download
.com
I
Know
They
Have
A
Free
30
Day
Trial
But
It
Is
Inhibited
You
Really
Just
Got
To
Pay
For
It
And
Get
It
But
That
Really
Can
Handle
A
Whole
Slew
Of
Different
Kinds
Of
Codexes
That
You
Going
To
Need
To
Go
In
And
Out
Of
And
The
Whole
DivX
Pro
Suite
Is
An
Excellent
Other
Program
For
Converting
Things
To
The
DivX
Format
Which
Is
One
Of
The
Great
Compressions
That
You
Really
Going
Things
And
If
You
Want
I
Believe
You
Can
Get
Around
To
That
If
You
Actually
Pay
For
The
Codec
But
I
Believe
That's
Thoroughly
Out
Of
Anybody's
Price
Range
Around
Here
I
Have
No
Idea
I
Didn't
Even
Know
You
Could
Buy
The
Codec
I
Thought
You
Could
Buy
The
Codec
Perhaps
I'm
Wrong
Send
Your
Emails
In
Radio
Of
I
Haven't
Actually
Ever
Played
Around
With
Us
But
It's
Kind
Of
Interesting
Now
I'm
Going
To
I'll
Go
Do
Some
Leet
Things
I'll
Go
Edit
All
My
Porn
Clips
Together
Or
Did I
Say
That
Out
Loud
Anyway
So
Yeah
Man
I'm
Thoroughly
Impressed
Yeah
I gotta
Say
That
Is
This
Has
Been
One
Of
Our
Best
Episodes
So
Far
Thank
You
I
Feel
The
Love
Guys
Thank
Wow
I gotta
Get
You
Hear
More
On
So
Yeah
That's
Everything
You
Ever
Want
To
Know
About
Digital
Editing
And
You
Were
Scared
To
Find
Out
By
Dr.
Zygman
I
Feel
The
Love
A lot
Of
It's
Thanks
To
The
Wiki
Thank
You
Wiki
What
Wiki
Are
We
Talking
About
The
Wiki
The
Wiki
Encyclopedia
It's
The
That'll
Give
You
A lot
Of
The
Actual
Specifics
Like
The
Difference
Between
That
Wikipedia
Dot
Org
Yes
Which
Is
Which
Is
A
Great
Resource
For
Basically
Everything
It's
Lots
Of
Fun
To
Hang
Around
Like
For
Example
I
Found
Last
Week
Way
Too
Much
Information
About
The
Price
Is
Right
There
Is
A
Whole
Slew
Of
Information
On
There
And
It's
Like
Two
Or
Three
Pages
Worth
The
Price
Is
Right
On
Wikipedia
Is
Great
For
All
Of
Your
Information
Knowing
Needs
And
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
You
Never
Really
Wanted
To
Know
In
The
First
Place
All
Right
All
Right
Well
Dr.
Zygman
Do
You
Have
Any
Announcements
As
Far
As
Announcements
Go
Just
Really
Be
On
The
Look
Out
For
Hack
TV
Episode
Three
Coming
Up
Soon
I
Hope
To
Get
It
Out
By
It's
Really
Looking
Like
The
First
Or
Second
Week
In
October
But
Don't
Hold
Me
To
That
It
Might
Be
A
Little
Bit
Later
Depending
On
Anything
That
Needs
To
Be
Edited
From
That
Just
Really
What
I
Want
People
To
Take
From
This
Is
To
Make
Videos
And
Go
Ahead
And
Present
Things
At
Your
Local
Meetings
Maybe
You
Are
Scared
You
Don't
Want
To
Talk
In
Front
Of
People
Here
Is
An
Excellent
Way
To
Bring
Something
To
The
Meeting
Here
Is
A
Start
Something
Online
Where
We
Can
All
Just
Share
Them
Together
And
Do
It
For
Your
Local
Meetings
That's
Where
You're
Really
Going
To
Get
To
Talk
To
People
Get
Those
Ideas
Flowing
And
All
That
Great
Stuff
Much
Like
We
Talk
About
Last
Week
Go
To
Your
Damn
Meetings
Yes
I
Go
To
Three
I
Go
To
Two
You
Have
Your
One
Up
On
Me
What
A
Shame
Owned
No
Knows
Oh
I
Have
Some
Announcements
I
Like
I
Said
I
Really
Kind
Of
Said
This
Me
In
The
Show
But
I
I'll
Be
At
Vaughn
Tomorrow
And
I
Might
Be
There
Other
Times
During
The
Week
But
Boston
2600
A
Couple
Of
Friends
Are
Going
Over
There
And
That's
About
It
For
Me
I
Don't
Have
Any
Other
Announcements
Yeah
I
Don't
Think
I
Have
Any
Announcements
Either
Just
Kind
Been
At
Tour
Con
And
Having
A
Good
Time
But
I
Guess
I
Can
Do
My
Shouts
Yeah
I'll
Give
A
Shout
To
Stoner
Savant
From
The
Bin
Rev
Forums
For
Putting
For
Putting
Me
Up
And
Putting
Up
With
Me
During
Tour
Con
Thank
You
Very
Much
Man
Dr.
Zygman
Oh
I'll
Jump
In
With
A
Couple
Of
Shouts
Let
Me
Give
A
Shout
To
The
Bin
Rev
561
Great
Group
Of
Guys
That
Is
Being
Organized
By
Tabiz
He's
Really
Doing
A
Great
Job
With
That
Good
Friend
Of
Mine
RM
Pants
Booter
I
Mentioned
Him
Already
But
He's
Helping
Out
With
Some
Hack TV
Stuff
To
Costi
He's
Always
There
Fixing
All
My
Code
That
I
Mess
Up
And
You
Know
I
Figured
I
Throw
This
In
My
First
Radio
Show
Hi
Mom
If
I
Know
My
Parents
Were
Shocked
When
I
Said
I
Have
A
Radio
Show
A
Real
Radio
Show
No
It's
On
The
Internet
It's
Listened
To
A
Couple
Of
Thousand
People
And
A
Shout
As
Well
To
The
Guy
Who
Does
The
Radio
Show
In
Vegas
That
Guy
That
Does
That
Radio
Show
Because
There's
Only
One
Of
In
Las
Vegas
Yeah
No
I
Was
On
It
With
Mark
Spencer
God
I
Forgot
His
Name
Suddenly
It's
I
Believe
It's
The
Usual
Suspects
Dot
Com
K
L-A-V
Yes
On
K-L-A-V
Whatever
His
Name
Is
I've
Totally
Forgotten
It
But
He
Bought
Me
Lunch
So
He
Rocks
That's
Nice
Yeah
Let's
See
I'm
Not
Sure
I
Don't
Have
Really
Any
Shouts
I
Shouts
Boston
2600
Shouts
To
Dr.
Zygman
For
Doing
An
Excellent
Episode
I
Gotta
Say
If
This
Was
Your
First
Time
I
Your
Second
Time
Is
Going
To
Really
Kick
Ass
He
Wins
Our
Applause
Thank you
Very much
For
Having me
Guys
It's
An
Absolute
Pleasure
I
Hope
To
Have
A
Chance
To
Do
It
Again
Judging
From
Your
Performance
This
Week
That
Will
Be
Not
A
Problem
I
Feel
the
Love
Side
Of
The
Dot
Com
They
Do
Custom
T-shirts
And
Stickers
And
What
Not
You
Give
Them
Designs
And
They
Cut
Them
Out
Of
Vinyl
And
You
Get
Really
Cool
Cut
Out
Stickers
And
They'll
Do
Anything
Yeah
I
Got
Myself
A
Bell
System
T-shirt
Well
I
Was
Thinking
More
Of
Someone
At
Def
Con
For
Those
Of
You
There
Was
A
Bit
Of
A
Cisco
Problem
With
Centorship
And
Such
And
People
Were
Going
Around
All
The
Time
With
New
And
Even
Wilder
Fuck
Cisco
T-shirts
So
It
Was
Kind
Of
Cool
They
Will
Print
Anything
Email
Radio
At
Bin
Rev
Dot
Com
We
Previously
Announced
The
Episode
This
Week
And
No
One
Emailed
Any
Video
Editing
Questions
For
Dr.
Ziegman
I'm
Very
Disappointed
In
You
All
Let
Me
Just
Put
Out
My
Email
Address
If
Anybody
Has
A
Specific
Question
I'm
Sure
It's
Not
Going
To
Be
That
Inundated
But
If
You
Ever
Need
To
Contact
Me
Have
Questions
About
Hack
TV
You
Can
Reach
Me
At
Dr.
Ziegman
At
Bell
South
Dot
Oh
Is
It
Dot
Net
Or
Dot
Net
There
You
It's
D-R-Z-I-G-M-A-N
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Net
That's
D-R-Z-I-G-M-A-N
For
All
Of
You
People
Listening
In
Britain
Australia
All
Right
Yeah
So
I'm
Not
Sure
I'm
Actually
Give
Out
The
Address
Radio
Bin
Rev
Dot
Com
Email
Us
And
You
Can
Email
Us
Questions
And
I
Will
Forward
Along
To
Dr.
Ziegman
In
Case
You
Can't
Spell
And
You
Don't
Know
What
Zed
Means
Closing
Music
Tonight
Is
Greenlander
By
Pavement
Which
Is
One
Of
The
Top
Downloaded
Songs
On
Epitonic
Dot
Com
As
Always
Because
I
Just
Go
In
There
And
Randomly
Check
Stuff
Out
And
Say
Sounds
Like
Pretty
Good
Closing
Music
So
We'll
Just
Check
That
Out
So
We
Will
See
You
Next
Week
Same
Hack
Time
Same
Hack
Channel
Through
Creels
And
Blocks
Filled
With
Dirt
And
When
The
April
Thaw
Brings
Us
Out
Again
Bless
The
Arrows
The
Sun
Won't
Stop
And
The
Land
Will
Never
Fall
Unvirgin
Fields
Will
Escape
Snap
Our
Children
Will
Create
Let
The
Arctic
Wind
Breathe
In
A
Wind
Will
Spend
Into
Thresh
And
Flow
You
Can't
Thresh
The
Snow
When
The
Snow
Is
Sending
In
Your
Divine
Row
You
Can't
See
The
Plank
It's
Gone
Everything
I did
Was
Right
Everything
That
Was
Wrong
Now
We'll
Wait
Till
Fall
The
Night
Bring
The
Dawn
Into
The
Home
In
Room
Where
Fire
Is
Warm
Where
We
Keep
Our
Fights
Is
Warm
It's
All
That's
Left
All
That's
Left
Is
Fights
Is
Torn
Left
To
Left
Member
To
a
から
出
Up
To
Each
One
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To
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