This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Cause CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattling earphones when I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Serial codes, source codes, ISO, RAM, SIP, SIP
This is dedicated to...
Hey there, welcome to Binary Revolution Radio episode number 118 for October 18th, 2005
I'm Strom Carlson
I'm Black Ratchet
And I'm Dr. Zygman
And this week we are...
Yeah, we've got Dr. Zygman in from...
I don't even remember where you're from
All around
Florida
Florida, okay
BR561
Sweet
Right?
I think it's BR561
That's right
Oh, okay
Wow, I surprised myself on that one
The joy of the internet where borders are so non-existent
Non-existent
You don't even remember where anyone's from anymore
That's gone
It's eerie when you start
Like, you're sitting in the middle of work
And I'm on the IRC channel
And you see people
Oh, okay
I'm going to bed
And I was just like
Where are you?
What's wrong with you?
And it's like people from like Europe and Britain
And it's kind of weird
Yeah
And of course then there's people who IM me
On the west coast
Not you, but other people
When I'm in bed
It's 3am
And I hear my computer start going
Ding
And I'm like
Where are you?
Hello
OMG
Wake up
Hi
Are you there?
Hello
They like start posting me their life stories
And I'm just like
I don't care
I was actually
I was actually talking about this on the IRC channel today
I need something for like Windows
That will automatically mute my
My speakers between like midnight and four
Well, there is the volume control in the little corner of the window
I'm sure you could just turn that down
Yeah, but I want to do something automatic
Well, I mean
Normally I do
But I just
Sometimes I forget
Because I'm tired
And I want to go to bed
But people will let me
Because they're IMing me
You know
I like
I do something really nice
I just turn my IM sounds off completely
Forever
Agreed
And that solves the problem
Agreed
Well, I just have the
Initial
You just got a message sound
I don't have the
One for every time
But normally
For some reason
Whenever I hear one
I'm just like
Oh my god
If I don't turn it off
Like 15 more will come from 15 different people
And I'll constantly hear that all night
So
Enough gas bagging
We have
We have some mega email this week
We got
We got gobs of email
I don't think we've got this much email ever
Yeah
Not even our first episode
Back, baby
We were always here
We just know
We never wanted to talk to us
Yeah, well I think people are starting to warm up to our
Pined, friendly demeanor
No, we probably just picked up a good topic, I guess
Perhaps, yeah
Oh
Alright, do you want to fade in the email theme here?
Yeah, let's insert the email theme
Insert host slash co-host here
Glad to hear a show on BSD
Good for a change of pace
I use both Linux and free BSD at home
I run BSD on my server and Linux on my desktop
I've been using Linux for a few years now
And can get around pretty well
BSD was more to my taste
I'm a Cisco guy
Yeah, yeah, whatever
And one thing I liked about BSD
Is that it doesn't do anything until you tell it to
I like this
But due to my lack of Unix knowledge
I didn't even know how to set my IP correctly
Using ifconfig
Because I was spoiled with Linux's tools
Then I had to figure out how to set my default root
Anyways, I think BSD is a great OS
And their port system is just fantastic
Much easier for me than even apt
Well, keep up the good work
Frostbite
Wow
This is the first time I've ever heard
That someone says that
Something is better than apt
Because I love apt
I love apt too
I've seen the light
There are Linux distributions out there
Just so you know
That they won't hold your hand
They'll make you do everything you want
Slackware was actually pretty good at this
But they've started to
I don't know
Drift to the dark side as it were
I think we should start a new Linux distro
Balls to the wall Linux
Advanced Linux
Linux for hackers
For hacksors
Hacks or Linux
Script kitty Linux
And we'll do it
We'll do it
You know
L1 NU
Greater than
Less than
Yeah
And make it a live CD
Yeah
What I always feel is
You know
Linux is
Geared toward mom and dad now
And they want to try to make it
So that everyone can install it
Ubuntu is a great
I don't know what you're saying
Example of this
Yeah
Except when you read the documentation
It's like having someone in Birkenstock
Talk to you
But anyway
I always get that feeling
About the entire operating system
But it all seems to work
Right out of the box
I mean
The same thing with
Something like Red Hat as well
Where it's
It's a commercial
It's a commercial substitute
For Windows
More than it is a
Unix based operating system
Mm-hmm
Well with the whole
Red Hat thing
Is that they're starting to
They tried to
Stop gearing it toward
The user base
And they're trying to
Make a splash
In the enterprise
And they're
They're doing relatively well
With that
When I worked at
When I worked at a large
Monopolistic kind of
Ticketing distribution company
I hear they're the
Master of ticketing
Yes
They are in fact
Masters of ticketing
But
They in fact
Used a distribution
Which was
You know
Very much
I think it was a
Red Hat derived
Internal distribution
For the company
So based on the
Fedora core
No
Not Fedora core
It was based on
Like one of the
Commercial Red Hat versions
Yeah
All right
Yeah
Yes I actually
I actually heard about
Someone running
Red Hat Enterprise Linux
On their desktop
Which
And they
They weren't in like
An enterprise environment
Which was
Completely foreign to me
And I have no clue
If they actually
Support this correctly
I always assumed that
When I always heard about
Red Hat Enterprise Linux
It was for
Servers
Not desktops
But
I could be wrong
I've never used it
So I could be just
Blowing smoke out of my ass
Yeah
Also this wasn't really
A cross company thing
There were numerous
Other distributions
That were running
Around the company
Oh that's interesting
Yeah
I'm sure that's a nightmare
For your support department
Ah no
Each team kind of
Administers their own stuff
Ah
Something that makes sense
Unlike my department
Yeah
So anyway
Now that I've done
Buy it in my NDA
Linux is geared
More toward
Average users
And getting everyone
Installed on it
And you can give your parents
The CD
And say
Just pop this in
It'll install it all
Automatically
Much like Windows
It really depends on the distro
Because if you're going to
Walk out of the gate
With something like Slackware
You're going to have to
Do some work to configure it
You know
It might have those
Fancy tools
But when it gets down
To the meat and the potatoes
You're going to be sitting
With your VI
Editing config files
It really
However much work
You want to do
However much control
You want to have
I think that's a
Big advantage of Linux
Of having so many distros
Is hey
You can decide
Hey I want to
I want to understand it
From this level
Yeah and the Debit install
Also I think there's
Several modes of operation
Where in one instance
It'll pretty much
Just show you all
Happy faces
And install itself
Without any interaction
And then you can also
Go for the really complex
Ask you everything
Package by package
Yeah pretty much
Or package rather
Not packet
Yeah
Do the happy faces
Dance when you install
I don't recall
But I think it would be cute
If they danced
In the tribal thing
Maybe that would be more
Of the Ubuntu thing
Yeah
By the way
Ubuntu
Finally released
5.10
Which is
Breezy Badger
This week
So
If you like Ubuntu
Download it
I was impressed
I upgraded
They actually went to
A completely graphic
Boot up screen
Which
I'm not sure
How I feel about yet
But we won't get into that
Anyway
My point is
While certain Linux distributions
Try to gear toward
Everybody
BSD
Tries to gear
More toward people
Who know what the hell
They're doing
As we previously stated
So they
They don't care
As it were
They don't try to make it easy
They assume you just know
What the hell you're doing
And by the way
Frostbite
I can feel your pain
About IF config and route
Excellent
I had that problem
With Solaris
It was
It was not fun
Yeah
I've tried to install Solaris
Actually
And I've gotten nowhere
So I should
Download it again
And give it another shot
I installed Solaris
X86
On a P200
And it was weird
It was very weird
To see CDE
Booting up on a
Or coming up on a PC
It was
Very strange
That just sounds like
An exercise in
Masochism
I used to use Solaris
A lot
When I was in college
It was the
College of Computer Science
Used to have that
And that was their
Default install
You would have Solaris
I was familiar
With the CDE
And on a completely
Unrelated note
Strom
Is it router
Or router
I think it's a router
Router
But it's a root command
Yes
Rate and rating operator
What about you Zygman
Router or router
I'm going to have to go
A router on that
Okay
Because I heard it
Like pronounced both ways
And I'm just curious
Well only because
From what I can
There are several
Competing plumbing companies
In the Los Angeles area
There's roto-router
And rescue-router
And both of those
Spelled router
R-O-O-T-E-R
So to avoid ambiguity
I don't think anyone
Would pronounce the latter
Router
So I'm going to pronounce
R-O-U-T-E-R
As router
Yeah I actually do router
But I also call the
Command route
Because what does it do
It routes packets
But of course
If you're going out
On a paper route
You go on a paper route
Not a paper route
And no one would ever
Talk about route 66
I've heard it both ways
Paper route and paper route
Yeah
I think it's just more
Of where you are
And what pronunciation
You like
And what you
Brought up with
I guess
Yeah
So let's hear
The flooded email
Route versus route
Yes
How do you pronounce it?
Route or root
And router or
Rooter
And in what context
Yeah
Send your email
To radio
At binrev.com
Send send send now
We have like
A survey site
Or something
Yeah we should
We should do that
Huh
Finrev
Anyway
We have a week
Our next email
I'm sorry Zygmunt
What?
We can do all the polls
We want on the forum
Yeah maybe I should
Do that tonight
I actually still
I pronounced
I promised something
Like two weeks ago
That I still haven't
Gotten up yet
And I should
I should actually do that
But
I won't say what it is
Because
I won't
Bire myself like that
Anyway
I'll put up the
Route and route
Poll tonight then
On the forum
Sounds like a plan
Our
Next email
Is
Hello
Stankdog
And Wintermute
Who are those people?
I don't know
I really don't know
And he says
H-E-D-P
Go on
Slash
W-W-W
Dot
P-C-B-S-D
Dot
Org
Papa Charlie
Bravo
Sierra Delta
Have you seen
This
B-S-D
P-C-B-S-D
Project
It's based on
Free B-S-D
And provides a
Robust graphical
Interface for the
Initial install
And doesn't require
Much Unix knowledge
For the post-install
One might compare it
To Suze or Mandrakes
In the Linux world
Nevertheless
The major B-S-Ds
Are well documented
And highly supported
Operating system
Linux is well
Documented too
But I feel the
Dividing factors
In the Linux community
Cause there to be
More
Diatribe
Yeah
And propaganda
For that
Thing
Good information
Especially surrounding
The various distributions
And the kernel
Itself
I believe
I know
Of the forums
You wanted to mention
In the last episode
That is
www.bsdforums.org
There are quite a few
Knowledgeable people there
And
Wow
Um
Who
Stankdog and Winterview
When's the last time
That Stankdog and Winterview
Hosted the show
Does anybody know?
I can look it up
I think it was like
Right before we took it out
Like two or three weeks
Beforehand
They did something together
But I
I think our friend here
Was just sort of
Pulling our chains
Or something
And trying to get
A rise out of us
I
I'm
I
I'm assuming
It's silly
Or sarcastic
Because no one is stupid
That writes email at
Binrev.com
The last one hosted by
Stankdog and Wintermute
Was episode 98
From May 31st
2005
It was classic though
So you can't blame them
Yeah
It was humorous
It made me do a double take
I will give you that
Um
BSD forums
Was the site we were thinking of
I
I verified it with a couple other people
And showed it to them
And said
Oh yeah
That's it
Uh
They are cool
I
They seemed very friendly and helpful
In my slight perusal
But uh
I couldn't really tell much
Because I don't know BSD
So most of the questions were like
Oh
Okay
And
And now
Strom has volunteered to read the next email
Our
It's
Epic
Wow
It's epic like two and a half lines long
If you've got a 3,000 column display
Ha ha ha ha ha
All right
Take it away Strom
And we'll sort of edit out all the breaths
So you can uh
Okay
It can sound like one thing
Here we go
Hi
Listening to your show on the BSDs
I noticed that there were a few inaccuracies
Concerning the BSD family tree
I think that it was Stalin
Who said that the BSDs discussed
Were all derivatives of AT&T code
Not so
Quote
The BSD operating system is a full-featured open-source Unix-like operating system
Descended from the Berkeley Networking Release 2
Net slash 2
4.4 BSD Lite
And 4.4 BSD Lite 2
And that's tinyurl.com slash bravo
What's R?
Romeo
Bravo
Romeo
Victor
To
Norway
Is N?
November
Okay
I'm still learning the phonetic alphabet
Uh
B-R-V-2-N
Tinyurl.com slash B-R-V-2-N
Even more interesting would be the family tree project that Grockline bases its timeline project on
And that's Grockline.net
G-R-O-K-L-I-N-E
Which includes almost all Unix derivatives
Even the newer Dragonfly BSD
And that's Levenez.com slash Unix
L-E-V-E-N-E-Z dot com slash Unix
The freely available BSDs aren't direct descendants of the AT&T code
Because of the lawsuit between Berkeley and USL, among other reasons
If you're not familiar with this lawsuit at all
In a nutshell, USL sued the regents of the University of California and Berkeley Software Design, Inc.
Over intellectual property
The case was settled out of court because the regent proved that USL was using their code without proper attribution
As well as that
As well and that no pertinent trade secrets inherent in their BSD implementation were revealed
This is admittedly a very liberal summary
You'll find more at tinyurl.com slash
Nine
Delta
November 5 Charlie
Yes
Nine Delta November 5 Charlie
Where there are all sorts of links
Other than that, I have to concur with your guests on BSD's place on the desktop
If you're a bit technically savvy, I'm sure you can get all the most popular BSD variants installed and configured to most of your needs
Personally, I've used OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and NetBSD as desktops
And heard that something called Windows can also be used
Provided that you don't install any supplemental software or connect it to the interweb
But it'll be a chore
My recent experiences with FreeBSD, from 5.x to 7.0 current
Have been that their ports aren't always stable or easy to install
KDE or Gnome, for example, haven't ever built without problems
But be it incompatible patches or uncompilable code
With KDE, I've been successfully, in quotes
Sorry, with KDE, I've even successfully installed the meta port with the, quote, make install, unquote
And found that start KDE was missing
Which leads me to believe that the port itself was a bit faulty
In fact, it would have been easier for me to download the source myself
Patch, configure, compile and install it, then use the meta port
A couple of years ago, at the systems trade show in Munich
I spoke with a BSD user group member about this
Munich is in Germany, by the way, he wants to point out
To which he replied with something along the lines of
Gnome is a known problem, but why not use something light and fast, like Fluckbox
Or sounds like a KDE problem
Years later, it's still happening, and I know I'm not the only one in the world
That uses KDE Organome on BSD
I've yet to find a stable alternative
That looks as nice as either of these desktop environments
E17 and XFCE4 are pretty close, though
And of course, the ports tree is not searchable
Except with other tools, not like Gentoo
With Emerge-S
Or Emerge-S
Or Debian's apt-cache search
So you might just have to know what they call the package
Case-sensitive, of course
That said, I think that the core system of the BSDs
Are indeed clean, stable, fast, and well-documented
If you really want to knock yourself out
Why not use one of them as a desktop system?
Well, I guess that this was mostly incomplete commentary on the BSDs
But I hope those links are helpful
Keep up the good work and watch out for Red Tide
Eman
I have to say, that's amazing
Also, that was really long
But a very good summary
I was quite impressed
Long, well-written, and thorough
I heartily approve
Eman, you get mad shouts
I'll have to remember to put you in my shouts tonight
Anyway, that Levinas link
I actually tinyurled that
It's tinyurled.com
Slash two, three, Delta, Yankee Golf
Because I apparently forgot to do that
I usually try to tinyurled the URLs in this
But I kind of slipped by
Because I was kind of rushing through the show notes tonight
Ratchet, ratchet, ratchet
I'm a regular
Yeah, I actually
Real life is starting to rear its ugly head with work today
So, that was really annoying
Wow
So, let's move on
So, rest your mouth here
I'll take the next one
Are you sure?
Yes
Okay
Actually, this email is dedicated to Merck
He kind of made a comment on how we don't get any international emails
Besides like two or three in the past X episodes
And this one comes from our friends to the north in Montreal
Yeah, Montreal
Hi guys, I am from Montreal
Love the show
And I'm thinking about doing my own asterisk box
After hearing you talk about it
I love your explanations of different telephone systems
I'm not into freaking
But I have an electronic background
And to find your explanations
Easy to follow and interesting
I just have one question
What would be a good cheap interface
So I could use my
What would be a good cheap interface
That I could use
To interface my asterisk
With my standard phone line
Now that you've said you've had problems
Remembering RAID levels
Me too
Here is a good site
That referenced all the RAID levels
Somewhat clearly
Be sure to click on the diagram
For RAID 5
As it will animate the process
In front of your eyes
Exclamation mark
Bang, bang, bang
It's simpler, I think
Yeah, but I like saying the exclamation mark
He also disclaims
I have no affiliation
With this company
And it's
TinyURL.com
Slash
Three
X-Ray
Bravo
Five
Yankee
Also you talk about
A keylogger inside
A Dell laptop
Here is a circuit
You see on the page
But it is used
Inside a PS2 keyboard
And not on the laptop
Keyboards
And that's
TinyURL.com
Slash
Nine
Tango
Alpha
Nine
Romeo
And I got to say
That's a really cool tutorial
I want to keep it bookmarked
And I will also remember
To bookmark it at work
Because that's usually
Where this stuff comes up
However, I doubt
It's going to help me
Memorize any of those
Damn numbers
Because I hate numbers
Numbers suck
You're a phone freak
You have to like numbers
I like numbers
I don't like memorizing
Stupid things
I'm the only phone freak
That can't memorize
Phone numbers
Right off the top of my head
That's why I keep
Protudous notes
That are on flash paper
So when I get rated
I can just burn them
Ha ha
So
I like his link
To the
Keylogger thing
And they show it
Going inside of a PS2 keyboard
However, I was looking
At the pictures they have
And the picture
One of the pictures
They have
Looks a lot like
The same picture
The guy posted on his site
A lot like it
Enough to be
Suspiciously similar
Enough
It's very
Suspiciously similar
Ooh
I actually should have
Gone for some alliteration
There
Super
Surprisingly
Suspiciously similar
There we go
Surprisingly
Suspiciously similar
Okay, we can get
Really carried away
Yes, we can
So
Either he's amazing
And he just got it
Lined up
Perfectly
When he took his
Because he says
That I took all these
Pictures taking apart
My laptop
And I never
Saw otherwise
That I stole this
From the site
So he must have
When he took the
Picture
He must have
Just used the
Same background
Lined it up
Exactly the same
Got the same
Rotation
The same angle
The same lighting
And he's just
That good
Or
He just
You know
Took it from the
Site
He never told us
And he's lying
About this entire
Thing
You be the judge
I'm not making
Any comments
On that
I like the
Occam's razor
Principle
All things being
Equal
The simplest
Explanation
Tends to be
The correct one
Again
This is just
Another knock
Toward that site
By the way
I'm curious
If anyone
Signed up
For their
Straight
Non-Jew
Whatever it was
The web posting
That we wholeheartedly
Endorsed last episode
I should sign up
For it
You know
You should just
Do it
You should
Just see what
They make you do
Yeah being gay
Raised Jewish
You know
I should sign up
And see what happens
And see what
They
And hopefully
You'll get it
You'll be able to
You should email
And say
I lied
I'm not
I was raised
Jewish
And I'm
Homosexual
Ha ha ha
I suck cock
Ha ha ha
I don't know
If you need to
Get into that
Much detail
Actually no
It probably
Blew their minds
You should
No pun intended
Ha ha ha ha
Ha ha ha
So
Okay that sort of
Wraps it up for email
I think that's one of our
Our longest email segments yet
Yeah
Could be
Well that's
One of the
Sure
I mean still
Eamon
You rock
Thanks for that email
You sort of
I'll forget you on the show
If we ever do a BSD show again
Yeah email us your contact information or something
What we have is contact information
Yeah
More detailed
Voice contact info or whatever
Yeah
So
Personal hacking stories
Zygmunt what have you been up to?
Have you been slaving away on the Hack TV editing console?
I have been going crazy on Hack TV
Let me give everybody the update
What's going on now
We're almost ready to get going with it
We just need a couple of little intro segments
And we're just working
The thing that's really taken a long time with this
Is
Because it was submissions from other people
Things have to be converted
So that it all looks uniform
And that's taken a little bit longer
Than I had originally hoped
And it's
It's no fault on anybody who submitted
Because we really appreciate it
Everybody who submits
It's just you know
You just got to make it all look like it came together
There's a million different codexes
A million different ways of doing things
I didn't have the opportunity
To take all the footage
So you got to apply all those special fancy filters
We were talking about last time
Things just have to render
It's going to get out there soon
As absolutely possible
And I'm looking
I'm really looking forward to having it look nice
The intro
It's a new intro
That's the little tidbit
That we're going to give everybody
It's a brand new intro
It features a couple of people
We're not going to mention any names
But it's really
I think it's coming together nicely
I'm really looking forward to seeing it
As soon as it's ready guys
We're just trying to push it out at this point
And it's just at the point where
Everything's got to be put together
And you know
It's got to get those final okays
From everyone along the road
Because of course
I did make that deal
Anybody who submitted
You are going to approve your clip
Before it's actually used
So a couple of things like that
We're just waiting on
And it really should be very soon
I really look forward to bringing it out soon guys
I mean I'm looking forward to that
That intro you were talking about
About Kevin Rose and the Stank Dog
And the Mudrest
Oh wait
I shouldn't have said that
Well we were going to use that clip
But you couldn't see both of their faces
Oh
That sucks
Oh man
And Whitesword taped it too
That was the best part
Oh wow
Anyway
So do we have an ETA
I mean are you willing to
Yeah the ETA was last week
ETA was last week
So as soon as it's ready
It's coming together
It's getting ready to get thrown up there
Hopefully Freaknik is not going to drag me down
Which is coming up by the way
Freaknik is this week
This week? Really?
Freaknik is this week
Oh shoot
We might have to get you back on here
And have a
Have a Freaknik wrap up
Yeah so anybody's going to be going to Freaknik
You can see me there
I'll be hanging out with like Droops
And Tabiz and RM Pants
And all that lot
So if you're going to make it up to Freaknik
We're going to have the camera there
We're going to try to film a lot more
Hack TV while we're up there too
You never know who we can run into
Doing something crazy
Or you never know what you're going to
Walk across and find
Is Mrs. Droops going to be there?
I don't believe Mrs. Droops is going to be there
Oh she introduced one of the Hack TV episodes
And I'm sure Droops is steaming right now
Oh wow yeah definitely
Well if he's in the sauna yeah
Yeah we all love you Droops
And we love Mrs. Droops too
I'm not meaning that in a derogatory statement
But anyway
I love Droops stickers for his radio show
Oh dude those stickers rocked
They still have one around here someplace
Yeah actually I think I pasted it on my
Yes I pasted it on my laptop
Oh cool
I've got
On my fridge I've got
The Special Olympics of Internet Radio
Yeah I decided to rice out my laptop
A couple of weeks ago
And use all my spare stickers
That I got from DEF CON
And just slap it on the side
Nice
I should take a photo of that
And I swear my laptop runs
Definitely like a P4 right now
And before it used to be a P2, 233
And it runs like a P4
Because I put all the stickers on it
I learned that trick from the ricers
Stickers make it go faster
Exactly
Absolutely
Also black makes it go faster
Yeah some neon
I should add some neon on that
You need ground effects on your laptop
OMG
Ground effects
Oh god
I haven't heard someone say that in forever
That would be pretty sick
To have a clear laptop
With ground effects on the bottom
Actually one of my friends
Was at the MIT flea
I actually didn't go to the MIT flea
The wind was too bad
And they were on and off
Closing the bridge
That I used to get into Boston
So I decided to stay home
And catch up on my sleep
But apparently the new thing is
Oh what is it
It's a neon light
But it has like strobe lights
At the end
And it's supposed to look like
Oh what is it
Like lightning or something
And crazy stuff
Spinners too
Oh man
That's what I should do
I should get like
A fan
I should get like a spinner
And put it in front of one of my fan vents
So it like rolls around all the time
No your CD-ROMs
Other things need the spinners
Anyway
I think we're getting way off track
Yeah we are
Oh it's a personal hacking story
I mean we're all talking about
Stuff we can do to our PCs
Yeah that's true
That's true
Actually going back to the video thing
I was very
I actually put up a blog entry on this
For those of you who
Don't visit my site
I was very
I was very ho-hum
About Apple's
Video iPod
Until I was
Looking at the next day
That
When did that get released
That got released like
Thursday or something right
The 12th
Yes
Whatever that was
And I was
I was very ho-hum on it
And basically
The talking heads
I really didn't like
Look at anything on Apple's site
Or look at any of the live
Blogging stuff
That they had all over the place
That all the Apple dieharders
Were doing
And I just caught the tidbits
On the 6 o'clock news
And they were saying
Actually I was watching
ABC Affiliate
So they were pumping it out
Like no tomorrow
Because you can download
All the ABC shows onto it
And I was like
Oh that's
That's pretty neat
Nothing spectacular
But oh well
And so
You can have
Desperate housewives
In your pocket
Inches from your crotch
Now is there
Is there a copyright issue
On that yet?
Has that been decided
Like with a legal precedent
As to the legality
Of having a television show
On your hard drive?
Oh they
Well what they did
Is it's official
They made a partnership
With ABC
Does it have commercials?
I don't know
But you pay for it
You pay like
Two bucks a shot
Oh really?
Yes
That's interesting
That's a great idea
Because a lot of people
Are going out
To the peer-to-peer networks
And are just downloading
Shows that way
If they had a centralized
Database where
For two bucks
You can download
The episode of
Stargate SG-1
You missed
I think a lot of people
Would use a service
Like that
I think it's pretty cool
I think it's not going
To make BitTor
Go away anytime soon
But
Of course
It makes you feel
A little bit more honest
I mean I love
iTunes Music Store
Cruising along
Listening to
WFNX in Boston
And oh here
That song's pretty good
And I just pop over
To iTunes Music Store
And buy my song
And life is good
It's pretty nice
And I like the TV thing
And it was a good idea
The problem is
It's only supported
By ABC now
But hopefully
It'll take off
And other people
Will start getting on board
But I was
Next day during my lunch break
Because I had nothing better to do
I checked out Apple.com
And looked at all the reviews
About it
I read on Slashdot
And found out
This very interesting thing
Called video blogging
Which apparently
It's like podcast
For your videos
Because apparently
Well of course
It's XML
So you can RSS anything
But there's apparently
All these TV shows
Out there
And now this got me
Intrigued
Because
This would be very cool
I was thinking about
Doing something on my
Pocket PC for this
That I could have
Like a weekly
Geekly
Weekly
Geek radio
TV show
And just have something
Like that
And if someone
Could actually do that
That would kick ass
So
I actually
Bounced this off
A couple of people
And there could be
Something in the works
Where it's a
Sort of a weekly
Talkish
Type show
But
Radio with talking heads
Basically
Yeah well not that
But we're going to do
A little more
Like
You can do a lot more
Stuff on TV
It's a whole lot easier
To look at a screenshot
Than to describe
What it's going on
To on TV
That's true
Yes
Oh look
It's kind of got
A green background
And there's icons
On the left
And it's pretty neat
I mean I can show you
A video iPod
Rather than
Actually just sort of
Describe what it looks like
Not that I have a video iPod
I'm not buying one
Anytime soon
But still
It introduced
An interesting concept
And I think
If this takes off
That this whole
Making your own TV shows
Could really just do
What the whole radio show
Thing did about
A year ago
So we could be living
In exciting times
And good luck
To everybody
Who tries to put together
A 30 minute production show
Every week
Yeah I know
Good luck
I'd love to see it
But I mean
That's a huge
Time investment
Well not only that
I mean
The hard part is
What you've just got to do
Is you've got to get
A couple weeks ahead
And you can't just
You know
Instantly do everything
And try to burn out
Or not try to burn out
But end up burning out
Or you could get in
And you could do
What Twat Radio is doing
And you could have
Maybe five or six
Different hosts
And you know
Each one has a week
That might not be
A bad idea
Oh yeah
Actually we should
We should plug them
Because I don't think
I ever actually
Talked about that
Twat Radio
Do we have a website
For them?
I don't have that handy
Let me Google
Hold on
Twat Radio
It's this week
Well this
This with a techie
Or something
Troops is
Getting really pissed
At me right now
I'm actually going
To be on
On Wednesday
So that will be
Up there tomorrow
For you guys
It would be
Twatech.org
So
It's a
Daily radio show
And it's only
It's done all
With different people
So for example
I'm doing it
On the 19th
And then
I think the next day
Troops is doing it
And it's exciting
It's cool
It's a very interesting concept
And I'm kind of
Excited with it
Of course
I haven't listened to one yet
I'm not going to
Admit that on air
Oh I just did
Oh well
Come Tuesday
I am going to
Film
Right now
After we're done
Taping
I'm going to
Fill my iPod up
And listen to them
All day
So I can get
Caught up on them
And find out
What the hell
I'm supposed to do
And they're not
That long either
So you just get
Like a nice little
Tidbit
Of whatever it is
That the current
Topic is
Yeah I think
It's supposed to be
At least five minutes
I believe
And I'm going to
Shoot for 15 or so
But who knows
So check that out
I will be on tomorrow
That will be Wednesday
Whatever the
That will be the 19th
So I'm doing some topic
Not
I have like two or three
That I haven't decided upon
But check me out
And check out
Check out the website
It's really cool
T-W-A-T-E-C-H
Dot org
So strong
What have you been doing
Nothing
Extraordinarily intriguing
I've done
I've kind of got two
Like kind of
Silly projects going on
The first one is
It's been raining here
In Los Angeles
And
This was more of
An unintentional project
I had two
Decamultias
That didn't really work
I tried to turn them on
And
It just didn't work
They've been sitting
On my balcony forever
And
It's finally started raining
And they've been just
Getting totally drenched
So I'll post photos
Up on my website
After this whole rain thing
Blows over
Of what they look like
After being rained on
For a couple days
I don't think
They're going to work
After being rained on
So
Yeah well they didn't work
Before being rained on either
So it's not like
So well there was
No net gain
Or no net loss
So we're good
Exactly
Well net gain
And seeing what happened
Yeah
Why are
We putting them
Then out on your
Balcony in the first place
I think I was
Cleaning up
And I just needed
Somewhere to put them
And the balcony
Was a convenient place
At the time
Is that common place
In Silicon Valley
You know
Silicon Valley
Is a couple hundred
Miles north of me
I don't know
Southern
All the cool hackers
Live in
SoCal
Yeah
Hackers and freaks
You
Lucky
Doug
Yeah
All again
Silicon Valley
Down there
That's
Silicon Valley
Is in SoCal
Right
No Silicon Valley
Is in the San Francisco
Bay Area
That's northern California
No
That's northern California
At least a six hour drive
North of here
I'm
I'm in eastern Massachusetts
There's no screwing up there
And
The other thing
That I've
That I've done
Is that
I've got a
I have an answering machine tape
That I found at the thrift store
That I
Started listening to
Just to see what the hell
Someone else's incoming messages
Sound like
It's actually pretty funny
So as soon as I get a real tape deck
Instead of just playing the back
Of an answering machine
I'll put the funnier ones online
Nice
Oh you
You picked it up
At a thrift store
So you were at like
Goodwill or something
Yeah
Somebody
Yeah
Somebody's incoming message tape
Wow
And they didn't erase it
Wow
Nope
See this is just
Kind of a low tech
Story about
People not erasing
Hard drives
And all that jazz
Idiots
Exactly
But
Dear idiocy
My gain
Yes
Well we all look forward to it
There you go
Should you get on
TWA tech
And
Go make an
Answering machine
Show
Yeah I could do that
Yeah you can do that
Answering machine archaeology
And I believe
Actually
Droops
I think I said that
Droops is running it
And so is an iron geek
They're looking for
Additional
DJs as it were
Well I'll certainly do one
Yeah so
Well I mean
They're looking for
A commitment
Like you know
Once a month
Or whatever
So just
Send
I believe it's right on
Their website
Volunteer for it
It's a cool project
And it's an interesting idea
And if you're
Kind of lazy
Much like me
You can
Just sort of
Back off
And only do it
Once a month
Unlike me
Who I do a weekly radio show
That's about an hour and a half
With Strom
Wow I'm stupid
You idiot
Yes
So let's go
Because we'll move on
To our main topic tonight
And our main topic tonight
Is Tor
Yay
Tor
The North God of Thunder
No
I'm Tor
Take an aspirin
Ah I'm so funny
No no no
Tor is
The anonymous proxy
Made by the EFF
Well I don't think
It's made by the EFF
It's endorsed by the EFF
What can I say about Tor
Tor is great
It's awesome
For the Onion Router
Doesn't it
Sort of a
It's a really nice program
It's a tool set
For a wide range
Of organizations
And people who want
To improve their safety
And security
On the internet
Usually Tor
Can help you
Anonymize web browsing
Through publishing
Instant messaging
IRC
SSH
And or any other
Applications that use
TCP protocol
Just sort of
Ripped that right off
The main page
Basically what it is
Is it's a proxy
And you can fire
Your packets off
Through it
TCP
Because UDP
Would be horrible
Latency on it
Well UDP will not
Function over Tor
It won't
No
It will only
Accept TCP packets
Well it kind of
Makes sense
Because who would
Actually want to run
UDP through it
Because
UDP is a very
Kind of
They want to make it
Get there really
Really fast
And the one
Problem about Tor
Is that it's
Really slow
Zygman you're
Sort of the
Expert on Tor
You did a lot
More
You did a lot
Of research
In this
Do you want
To explain
How Tor works
Well basically
What you get
With Tor
Is you have
You're going
To run that
We'll get into
Details about it
Later but
You're going
To run a
Tor client
On your
Computer
You're going
To point
Whatever
You're going
To send
Data through
The Tor
Client
And from
There it's
Going to
Go to the
Entry node
Which is
One computer
That is running
A Tor server
That's going
To allow you
To connect
To it
As soon as
You make
This connection
This is an
Encrypted
Connection
With specific
Keys that
Are used
That only
These two
You and
The first
Node
You're the
Only two
People who
Know each
Other
Then this
First node
Talks to
The second
Node
But the
Second node
Doesn't know
Who initiated
The packet
It only knows
The person
Immediately behind
It which is
The first
Node
And who
It's sending
It to
The third
Node
From there
That second
Node is
Going to
Forward it
To the
Third
Node
Which is
Going to
Usually be
The exit
Node
Which is
Where it's
Going to
Be decrypted
And go ahead
And sent
Out to
Go wherever
It is you
Need to go
Be it a
Web page
IRC
FTP
Whatever
So basically
What it is
Is you get
This black
Box
And just
Picture a
Black box
It's about
A foot
Long by a
Foot wide
And about
Six inches
Tall
And you can
Put a
Marble
On one
End
And it'll
Come out
The other
Side
In one
Of many
Holes
And you
Never know
Where that
Marble is
Coming in
Or going
Out from
Depending on
Which side
You're looking
At it
You have to
Look at both
Sides
Which is
Physically
Impossible
With Tor
That was
That was a
Really bad
Analogy
But it
Sounded good
At the
Time
It seems
To work
For me
Yes
Well then
You get
Into the
Whole
Problem
With
And we
Might as
As well
Bring it
Up now
The main
Problem
That can
Exist
With Tor
That can
Really
Work
Against
Your
Anonymity
Is if you
Have what's
Called a
Global
Adversary
Which is
Somebody who
Can see a
Large portion
Of the
Internet
And has
The ability
To do
And you're
Going to
Talk about
This later
Traffic
Analysis
And what
You can
Do from
There
Is let's
Say I
Can see
30%
Of the
Interweb
Whatever
You know
I'm the
Man
I have
Control of
All these
Massive
Servers
That everything
Is being
Routed to
I thought
You didn't
Want to
A bit
That
That's
True
Now we
Know
Zygman
Is the
Man
That's
Exactly
What
Happened
That's
Why
I
Am
Doing
The
Radio
Show
For
Free
Anyway
Because
He
Can
Afford
It
Because
You're
The
Man
And
You
Have
On it
So
Say
You
Control
30%
Of
The
Internet
Or
You
Just
Have
The
Ability
To
Look
And
See
What's
Going
On
You
Could
Actually
Say
Okay
These
Are
All the
Entrance
Nodes
These
Are
All
The
Exit
Nodes
Of
Tor
Let
Me
Line
Up
The
Times
I
Can't
See
What
It
Is
You're
Saying
But
I
Can
See
That
You're
Talking
To
So
And
So
Just
By
Comparing
The
Times
That
Is
It's
Such
A
It's
Such
A
Large
Undertaking
That
It's
Practically
And
Statistically
Impossible
But
I
Mean
It's
Still
Theoretically
It's
Something
That
Could
Happen
Yeah
I
Wouldn't
Say
It's
Statistically
Impossible
But
At
The
Same
Point
It
Would
Be
Very
Difficult
I
Mean
Statistically
You
Really
Long
Time
But
For
The
Most
Part
You
Can
Really
Use
Tor
For
Your
Anonymity
Needs
And
We'll
Get
Into
Things
That
Actually
Deal
With
It
But
Why
Don't
You
Go
And
Tell
Us
What
Traffic
Analysis
Is
Well
Traffic
I
Mean
You
Got
People
Who
You
Are
At
Work
You
Are
An
Internet
Cafe
And
You
Don't
Know
What's
Going
On
Your
Boss
Could
Be
Looking
At
You
Your
Work
Could
Be
Running
Some
Type
Of
Web
Analyzation
Software
That
Watches
Everything
That
Goes
Across
And
Logs
It
I
Mean
Heck
You're
In
China
Has
A
Great
Firewall
That
Does
Everything
They
Want
To
Go
Or
Heck
If
You
Just
Basically
They
Want
To
Log
Everything
That
Goes
Out
There
And
Make
Sure
That
All
Their
Chinese
Citizens
Don't
Visit
These
Naughty
Democracy
Sites
Or
On
The
Other
End
Of
Thing
You
Got
J
Random
Hacker
Hacksore
Sitting
In
The
Coffee
Shop
With
You
And
You
Don't
Know
What
The
Heck
Is
Going
On
You're
Checking
Your
Email
But
All
Of
A
Sudden
He's
Running
Kismet
Just
Logging
Everything
Across
The
Wireless
Land
There
I
Just
Completely
Drew
A
Blank
On
What
The
Hell
That
Was
Called
So
People
Out
There
They
Want
To
Keep
They
Just
Track
Everything
That
You
Do
It
It's
Scary
It's
Annoying
It's
Stupid
So
What
Tor
Does
Is
Basically
They
You
Fire
It
Off
You
Use
That
As
Your
First
You
Use
Your
Proxy
And
It
Encrypts
Everything
So
They
Can't
See
Anything
That
You
Using
And
The
First
Step
So
Say
I'm
Using
Tor
And
I'm
Trying
To
Check
My
Mail
I
Connect
To
Tor
I
Connect
I
Configure
Tor
To
Actually
Connect
To
My
Want
To
Connect
Out
And
I
Configure
My
Mail
Program
To
Use
Tor
To
Connect
To
My
Mail
Server
That
Foils
A
The
Evil
Person
Trying
To
Monitor
My
Thing
In
The
Internet
Cafe
And
If
I'm
In
Internet
Cafe
In
China
All
The
Chinese
Government
Says
You see
This
Encryption
Connection
Going
Out
Something
You should
Mention
About
Tor
Most
Tor
Outlets
Will
Block
Port
25
Oh
Really
They
Will
Most
Will
Block
Port
25
To
Prevent
Spammers
From
Using
Tor
Yeah
We
Will
Cover
All
That
Later
With
Lace
Little
Caveats
There
And
What
It
Is
For
Example
If
I
Was
Checking
My
Mail
On
Port
110
Using
Pop
3
It's
All
Encrypted
People
Can't
See
It
And
All
The
Person
At
The
End
Knows
When
They
Get
Released
Unencrypted
Out
The
They
Just
Know
That
Someone
Somewhere
Is
Checking
Their
Mail
On
Such
And
Such
A
Server
Or
Going
To
Such
And
Such
A
Website
They
Don't
Know
Who
I
Am
They
Don't
Know
What
I'm
Doing
They
Don't
Know
That
I'm
In
China
And
They
Don't
Know
What
Other
Sites
You've
Gone
To
Exactly
Like
Because
I
Send
Out
One
Packet
And
Every
Five
Minutes
So
It
Changes
My
Path
About
Actually
Let's
Cover
How
It
Works
What
Happens
Is
You
know
Zygman
Gave
A
Kind
Of
Basic
Explanation
That
I
Use
My
Computer
To
Here's
How
I
Have
It
Set
Up
I
Have
Run
It
On
My
Computer
And
I
Configure
All
My
Programs
To
Use
It
As
A
Proxy
And
Then
What
My
Computer
Does
Is
It
Has
A
Giant
List
Some
Place
Of
Other
Nodes
On
The
Net
Of
The
Tor
Net
That
They
Can
Use
So
My
Computer
Connects
Out
To
One
Of
Those
Nodes
And
Then
That
Node
Consults
Its
Giant
List
Of
Other
Nodes
To
Connect
To
And
It
Connects
To
One
Of
Those
Nodes
And
This
Happens
For
Two
Or
Three
Hops
And
At
Which
Point
After
It
Sees
That
It
Has
Been
Two
Or
Three
Hops
And
It
Has
Sufficiently
Masqueraded
You
Can't
Actually
Trace
It
Back
Unless
You
Are
Doing
All
That
Hardcore
Traffic
Snooping
That
Zygma
Was
Talking
About
It
Finally
Consults
A
List
Of
Exit
Nodes
And
What
Exit
Nodes
Are
There
Tor
Computers
That
People
Have
Graciously
Set
Up
That
Say
Hey
You
Can
You
Also
Use
Me
To
Bounce
Your
Connections
Off
Between
Tor
Nodes
You
Can
Also
Use
Me
To
Access
One
Of
Exit
Nodes
And
The
Exit
Nodes
Unencrypts
My
Traffic
And
Sends
It
And
Forges
Along
And
Every
Five
Minutes
Or
So
What
It
Does
Is
It
Changes
The
Path
Of
My
Connection
So
Say
I
Was
Using
My
Node
To
Node
1
To
Node
2
To
Node
3
To
Node
4
Now
It
Whips
Around
And
My
Node
To
Node
5
To
Node
6
Node
7
Node
8
So
It
Kind
Of
It
Around
Like
Node
4
Can't
See
Everything
That
I'm
Doing
Or
Seeing
That
Someone
Is
Visiting
This
Website
All
The
Time
It
Actually
Bounces
Over
To
Node
8
And
Node
8
Knows
That
I
Instantly
Just
Started
Going
To
This
Website
Or
Mail
Sure
Note
That
Node
8
Has
No
Idea
Who
Node
5
Is
At
The
Same
Point
That
Node
8
Doesn't
Know
I Am
At
Node
Alpha
I guess
You
Call
Me
Nobody
Knows
Who
I
Am
It
Just
Knows
That
Someone
Somewhere
On
The
Tor
Network
Who
Is
Using
Tor
Is
Visiting
This
Website
It
Is
Sufficiently
Randomized
And
Such
That
It
Makes
It
Very
Difficult
For
People
To
Track
And
Once
You're
In
The
Tor
Network
It's
Very
Difficult
To
Actually
It's
All
Encrypted
And
You
Really
Can't
Tell
What
The
Hell
Is
Going
On
So
Is
That
Is
That
An
In
Depth
Explanation
That
Make
Sense
I
Think
It
Sounded
Good
So
It's
What
It
Is
That
It's
Pretty
Much
Randomized
It's
What
What's
The
Freenet
Is
Another
Kind
Of
Implementation
Of
This
And
It
Uses
Some
Of
The
Same
Principles
But
They're
Actually
Kind
Of
Moving
Over
To
A
More
Tor
Like
With
Freenet
If
You
Ever
Used
It
It's
Slow
It's
Really
Slow
Tor
Is
Slow
Because
You're
Basically
You're
Lengthening
Your
Internet
And
For
Example
Node
1
Could
Be
In
I
Could
Be
In
Massachusetts
Node
1
Could
Be
In
California
Meanwhile
Node
2
Could
Be
In
Southern
Indonesia
For
All
I
Know
And
So
With
All
These
Hops
You're
Going
To
Slow
Down
Your
Connection
There
Is
A
Let's
Say
I
Click
On
A
Link
And
I
Could
Come
Back
A
Half
Hour
Later
And
It
Still
Hadn't
Loaded
And
It's
Still
Trying
To
Connect
To
It
And
Trying
To
Figure
Out
Where
It
Is
Freenet
Slightly
Different
There's
Certain
Local
Caching
Going
On
There's
A
Lot
More
Complex
Stuff
With
It
And
It's
A
Really
Cool
Program
I'm
Not
Trying
To
Knock
It
But
With
I
I'd
Like
To
Say
That
Tor
Is
An
Overall
Better
System
I
Mean
I
Can
Absolutely
Agree
With
What
You're
Saying
There
Um
I
Think
A
Major
Difference
Like
Freenet
Also
Implements
Geolocations
And
Putting
Things
Next
To
Each
Other
And
They
Have
All
These
Complex
Equations
They
Actually
Gave
A
Talk
About
It
On
At
Def
Con
13
But
What
Tor
Is
Doing
Is
Taking
A
Lot
Of
The
Extra
Work
Out
And
It
Just
Making
A
Pipe
When
You
Get
Down
To
A
Tour
It
Just
It
Acting
Like
Your
Chain
Of
Proxies
It
Just
Connecting
Things
Together
And
It
Acting
As
A
Pipe
Your
Biggest
Latency
Is
Going
To
From
Going
Exactly
From
Massachusetts
To
California
To
Indonesia
To
Taiwan
Back
To
The
United
States
For
Your
For
Your
Actual
Web
Page
You
Have
Latency
And
The
Time
It
Takes
From
A
Package
To
Traverse
The
Distance
Also
It
Is
Being
Encrypted
Along
The
Way
And
Also
With
The
Exit
Nodes
Is
That
Exit
Nodes
Are
On
The
Torn
Network
They
Are
Quite
Few
And
Far
Between
And
You
Have
People
Out
There
Abusing
This
Network
We'll
Get
Into
That
Later
And
These
People
Could
Be
Running
On
Massive
Connections
Nodes
While
On
A
56
K
Connection
Just
To
Screw
Everyone
Over
Because
They're
Mean
And
Annoying
And
Make
Me
Sad
So
It's
The
Lag
Is
There
And
It's
Encrypted
And
You
Have
All
This
Stuff
And
Even
If
I'm
Going
From
My
Computer
Upstairs
To
My
Server
Downstairs
That
Is
On
Internet
Address
It
Could
Be
Routed
Halfway
Across
The
World
For
All
I
know
It
Probably
Will
Be
And
Actually
Yeah
Probably
Will
Be
I
Actually
When I
Use
Tor
Every
Once
In
A
While
I
Just
My
Paranoid
Self
I
Go
To
Check
Out
My
IP
Address
And
What
Is
My
IP
Address
Dot
Com
Or
I
Don't
Even
Know
If
That's
A
Real
Website
Yeah
What
Is
My
IP
Dot
Com
Oh
Really
Okay
I
Have
One
Bookmarked
I
Don't
Even
Know
What
It's
Called
It's
Just
Like
Connections
All
Over
The
Place
So
When
He
Says
It's
Most
Likely
Routed
Around
The
World
It
Is
Most
Likely
Routed
Around
The
World
And
I
Just
Like
To
Send
Shouts
Out
To
All
These
People
Running
These
Exit
Servers
Thank
You
So
Much
And
I
Feel
Very
Sorry
For
People
Abusing
Your
Connections
So
Okay
Now
We
Were
Talking
About
Free
Net
Free
Net
Is
Only
Stuff
That
Can
Be
Published
Within
A
Free
Net
Network
And
Apparently
You
Can
Also
Do
This
With
Tor
Right
You
You're
Much
More
Expert
On
This
Than
I
Can
Tor
Has
What
Are
Called
Hidden
Services
And
What
That
Basically
Means
Is
Let's
Say
That
You
Want
To
Have
A
Web
Page
That
Published
But
You
Don't
Want
Anybody
To
Know
That
You're
The
One
Publishing
That
Web
Page
You
Don't
Want
Them
To
Know
Where
You
Are
Physically
And
I
Mean
There's
A
Lot
Of
Reasons
For
This
Let's
Say
You're
Publishing
A
Very
Controversial
Website
About
Whatever
Animal
Rights
And
You
Don't
Want
Your
Address
Out
There
You
Don't
Want
People
Stalking
You
Don't
Want
To
Register
Who
Is
Etc
What
Tor
Provides
Is
These
Hidden
Services
You
Can
Run
A
Web
Server
An
FTP
Server
An
IRC
Server
From
Within
The
Tor
Network
And
Then
Instead
Of
www.
Animal
Rights
Dot
Com
It
Changes
Into
Animal
Rights
Dot
Onion
And
What
Happens
Is
Onion
Is
A
DNS
Entry
That
Can
Only
Be
Resolved
By
Tor
Servers
So
By
Connecting
To
This
Tor
Network
When
You
Set
Up
A
Hidden
Service
Wherever
That
Server
Is
Located
It
Tells
All
The
Other
Tor
Nodes
Hey
If
Anybody
Asks
For
This
Send
It
To
This
Place
You
Go
Ahead
And
That
Place
Is
Also
Shifting
It's
Just
A
Temporary
Address
Among
All
The
Different
Nodes
The
Only
Way
That
You
Can
Prove
That
You
Are
Who
You
Say
You
Are
Is
Through
The
Use
Of
Keys
Tor
Is
Very
Heavy
On
Keys
When
You
Set
Up
A
Hidden
Service
You
Actually
Have
A
Private
Key
That
Proves
That
You
Are
The
Person
Who
Is
Running
This
Private
Service
You
Really
You're
Getting
To
The
Point
Where
You
Have
A
Network
Inside
Of
A
Network
You
Can
Use
Tor
To
Publish
Content
That
Might
Otherwise
Be
Questionable
Or
Objectionable
It
Doesn't
Necessarily
Have
To
Be
Something
That
Illegal
It
Could
Really
Just
Be
Something
As
Simple
As
This
Is
My
Website
I
Don't
Want
People
Knocking
On
My
Door
I
Don't
Want
This
The
Solicited
Spam
Mail
For
Having
Who
Is
Info
I
Don't
Want
Any
Of
This
Jazz
And
It
It's
Another
Great
Feature
Of
Tor
That
You
Can
Have
This
Network
Inside
The
Network
So
Does
I
Don't
Really
Want
To
Call
It
A
DNS
Server
Because
It's
Not
Doing
The
Exact
Same
Thing
It's
Not
Turning
A
Host
Name
Into
An
IP
Address
Which
Is
When
I
Think
DNS
Server
That's
What
I
Think
But
What
This
Is
It's
Going
To
Turn
That
Host
Name
Into
A
Tor
Location
It's
Advertised
As
This
For
The
Next
However
Long
This
Is
Where
You
Can
Find
This
Specific
Web
Page
So
You
Can
Go
To
In
Your
Web
Browser
All
Set
Up
Through
Tor
www.animalrights.onion
And
You'll
Go
To
The
Animal
Rights
Onion
Web
Page
That's
A
True
Web
Page
That
You
Can
Go
To
Just
Like
A
Regular
Web
Page
It's
Set
Up
With
Your
Favorite
Server
Application
Be
Apache
Or
Any
Other
Web
Server
And
You
Have
The
Ability
To
Open
Up
Your
Own
Your
Own
Hidden
Websites
Where
People
Can't
Track
They
Have
No
Idea
What
Hardware
You're
Running
On
They
Don't
Even
Know
Where
You're
Physically
Located
I
Mean
It
Takes
Out
A
Huge
Part
Of
Footprinting
Which
Is
If
You're
Going
To
Go
After
A
System
You
Try
To
Find
Out
Is
It
Co-located
Who
Is
Located
With
What
Kind
Of
Hardware
Is
It
Running
With
The
Operating
System
Something
Like Tor
Is
Going
To
Really
Make
It
Difficult
For
Anybody
To
Try
Anything
Like
That
You
Can't
Port
Scan
It
You
Can't
Port
Scan
An
IP
Address
That
Doesn't
Really
Exist
You
Don't
Know
What
The
IP
Address
Is
You
Might
Be
Able
To
Find
The
Client
That
Is
Being
Used
For
Whatever
Service
You're
Trying
To
Find
But
If
I'm
Going
To
Be
A
Responsible
Person
Make
Sure
My
Stuff
Is
Updated
And
Patched
And
Everything
Is
Nice
And
Clean
From
A
Security
Standpoint
It
Might
Be
A
Little
Slower
But
It's
A
Lot
More
Secure
To
Not
Have
To
Divulge
All
Of
Your
Details
And
That's
Really
What
Tor
Is
About
It's
A
Lot
Less
About
I'm
Going
To
Hide
And
Do
This
It's
You
Have
It's
No
Business
Of
Yours
Who
I
Am
I'm
Coming
I'm
Looking
At
Your
Content
And
I'm
Moving
On
With
My
Life
I
Don't
Want
To
Be
Tracked
I
Don't
Want
To
Be
Sold
Something
And
That's
Where
People
Are
Coming
Up
To
Tour
And
Using
Maybe
A
Hidden
Service
Because
This
Isn't
Something
That
The
World
Needs
To
Know
That
I'm
Seeing
This
There's
A lot
Of
Things
I
Don't
Want
Everybody
To
Know
That
I
Like
Going
To
This
Website
Be
It
Whatever
It
Is
Anybody
Who
Says
Anything
You're
In
Trouble
But
Anyway
I
Mean
A
Hidden
Service
Is
Something
That
You
Can
Easily
Set
Up
With
Tor
It's
Just
A
Couple
Of
Edited
Lines
And
Config
Files
With
Hidden
Service
Port
Hidden
Service
Name
You
And
You
Register
It
It's
Not
Even
It's
Not
Even
A
Difficult
Thing
And
I
Wish
I
Do
The
Cost
If
There
Was
One
But
Other
Than
That
Well
I
Mean
The
Cost
Would
Just
Be
What
Your
Hardware
And
Your
Processing
Time
And
All
That
Stuff
I
Mean
And
You're
Also
Just
Talking
About
Websites
But
That
Means
It
Not
Just
Has
To
Be
Website
To
Be
You're
Saying
Like
FTP
For
Example
If
I
Can
Run
A
SSH
Server
I
Don't
Know
Why
I
Want
A
Hidden
SSH
Server
But
I
Could
Do
It
On
Tor
Right
Absolutely
Now
You
Get
Details
About
How
Your
Actual
Clients
Are
Going
To
Have
To
Use
Tor
And
We'll
Cover
Those
Programs
In
A
Minute
Or
So
But
You
Could
Really
Run
Just
About
Any
Kind
Of
Any
Kind
Of
Service
On
Any
Port
You
Want
You
Could
Run
Your
Own
Custom
Application
On
Whatever
Port
You
Want
It
Doesn't
Have
To
Be
Built
Into
The
Server
Software
It
Is
Just
Set
Up
You
Know
Because
All
You're
Really
Doing
Is
Binding
It
To
A
Local
Port
And
Telling
Tor
Anything
That
Comes
Through
That
Local
Port
Send
Through
My
Server
And
Then
Tor
Is
Taking
Care
Of
The
Rest
For
You
God
Bless
Tor
Absolutely
Or
Diety
Bless
Tor
How
About
that
For
Actually
If
You're
Atheist
Screw
You
So
Okay
So
Basically
How
Would I
Get
Tor
Running
I
Have
Tor
Now
What
Else
Might
I
Need
I
Know
So
Basically
You
Run
Tor
I
Think
There's
Binary
Available
For
Windows
But
What
I
Just
Do
Is
I
Run
It
On
My
Linux
Box
I
Compile
It
Down
And
Everything
Is
Good
And
I
Have
It
Up
And
Running
What
Do
I
Need
Well
As
You
Were
Saying
There
Are
Binaries
For
Windows
There's
Source
You
Know
There's
A
Million
Different
Ways
Of
Getting
It
One
Way
Or
Another
Get
The
Software
Great
Next
Thing
You
Need
Is
You
Need
Something
Tor
Is
Really
Just
The
Pipe
That's
All
It
Really
Does
For
You
Need
To
Use
Something
On
Top
Of
That
To
Add
To
Your
Anonimity
And
A
Good
Actually
An
Excellent
Program
That
Tor
Recommends
Is
Privoxy
And
What
That
Is
It's
An
HTTP
Sox
Proxy
And
One
Major
Problem
With
Tor
Is
That
It
Leaks
DNS
Requests
If
You
Weren't
Using
Something
Like
Privoxy
And
You
Put
In
www.google.com
That's
Going
To
Go
To
Your
Name
Servers
Your
DNS
Whatever
And
It's
Going
To
Resolve
To
An
IP
Address
But
That's
Going
To
Come
Directly
From
Your
Computer
That's
Not
Going
Dr.
Zygman's
Looking
At
House
Of
Naked
Babes
Exactly
You
Know
But
I
Don't
Want
Everybody
To
Know
That
I
Don't
Want
Everybody
To
See
The
DNS
Records
Attached
To
My
True
IP
Address
So
I
Use
Something
Like
Privoxy
What
That
Does
Is
It's
Going
To
Force
The
DNS
Requests
Through
Tor
Or
Use
The
Tor
DNS
Plugins
And
Different
Things
Like
That
And
First
It's
Going
To
Allow
You
To
Have
A
Clean
DNS
Where
You're
Not
Going
To
Leak
That
Information
As
To
Who
It
Is
Who's
Actually
Looking
Up
The
Host
From
There
What
Also
What
else
Privoxy
Does
Which
Is
It
Takes
Out
All
The
Ads
Or
Most
Of
The
ads
Privoxy
Even
By
Itself
Without
Tor
Is
A
Very
Handy
I
Guess
You
Could
Call
Web
Filtering
But
It
Filters
Out
The
Stuff
You
Don't
Want
To
See
Like
Ads
And
Annoying
Flash
Things
And
I
Think
It
Actually
Has
Some
Limited
Worm
Support
On
There
Too
It
It's
A
Fun
Program
To
Play
Around
With
Even
If
You're
Not
Using
Tor
For
Example
If
You're
Forced
To
Use
Internet
Exploder
For
Some
Reason
Use
Provoxy
It'll
Make
Your
Life
Easier
And
It
Also
Will
Clean
Up
The
Headers
For
You
That
Could
Reveal
Who
You
Are
Things
Like
That
Privoxy
Is
An
Excellent
Program
For
That
And
You
Can't
Just
Use
A
Web
Browser
With
Tor
Unless
You
Have
One
That
Supports
Sox
4a
Which
Is
The
Version
Of
Sox
That
Works
Based
On
Host
Names
Rather
Than
IP
Addresses
But
If
You
Want
To
Use
Your
Mozilla
Or
Your
Firefox
Or
Your
Internet
Explorer
With
It
Or
Conquer
For
That
Matter
Any
Web
Browser
You
Are
Going
To
Need
To
Use
Privoxy
Or
Some
Sort
Of
HTTP
Proxy
And
That
Is
What
Going
To
Allow
You
To
Utilize
That
Pipeline
That
Tor
Is
Opening
Up
For
You
Can
Set
Up
Your
Web
Browser
To
Use
Tor
By
Itself
But
At
The
Same
Time
You
Get
That
DNS
Thing
So
You
Don't
Necessarily
Need
Proxy
But
At
Same
Time
Point
Just
Use
It
Don't
Bother
I
Mean
It's
It'll
Make
Your
Life
A
Whole
Lot
Easier
And
It'll
Warn
You
If
You're
Doing
Something
Dangerous
It'll
Come
Flat
Out
Big
Pop
Up
That's
A
Warning
Are
You
Sure
You
Want
To
Do
X
I
Don't
Think
It
Actually
Comes
Up
With
A
Pop
Up
But
At
The
Same
Point
If
You
Look
At
Your
Console
Which
Normally
Is
What
Tor
Runs
At
Default
It'll
Say
Hey
You're
Sending
This
Out
This
Is
Bad
You're
Just
Sending
An IP
Address
To
Us
That
Means
You're
Probably
Querying
A
DNS
Server
Would
You
Like
To
You
Really
Should
Install
Provoxy
And
Actually
Process
That
Right
There
It
Says
Provoxy
Use
That
You're
Doing
Something
Bad
You're
Very
Bad
Provoxy
Will
Also
Load up
That
White
Background
Screen
That
I'm
Sure
You've
Seen
With
The
Red
And
The
Blue
On
It
Which
Will
Warn
You
About
Things
It
All
Depends
On
What
Exactly
It
Is
You're
Doing
But
As far
As
HTTP
Goes
And
Your
Web
Surfing
You
Really
Should
Use
Pyboxy
Or
I
Think
There's
One
Web
Browser
That
Allows
You
To
Use
Tor
Directly
Without
DNS
Leaking
But
It's
Definitely
Not
One
Of
Common
One
It's
Something
For
Apple
And
I
You
Know
Forgive
Me
For
Not
Knowing
The
Exact
Name
Of
It
But
Most
Web
Browsers
Would
Really
Benefit
From
Using
Something
Like
Pyboxy
And
If
You're
Already
Going
Through
The
Trouble
To
Use
Tor
You
Might
As
Well
Yeah
I
Set
It
Up
Almost
Immediately
Afterwards
I
Wanted
To
Fool
Around
With
It
First
And
Get
A
Feel
For
It
Because
I
Wow
Okay
This
Is
Just
Infinitely
Better
And
Because
Provoxy
Just
Has
All
Those
Features
That
Tor
Doesn't
Like
I
Said
Tor
Is
A
Pype
Provoxy
Actually
Uses
That
Pype
Very
Efficiently
It
Scrubs
Everything
You
Want
Out
Of
Your
Out
Of
Your
HTTP
Requests
Like
For
Example
If
Anyone
Actually
Looks
At
My
HTTP
Requests
It
Will
See
That
I
Running
Internet
Explorer
7
Oops
Little
White
Lie
And
I
Actually
Gave
It
Insane
Specs
I
Actually
Think
It
Internet
Explorer
7.1
Just
For
The
Hell
Of
It
And
Pyvoxy
Is
Really
Easy
To
Configure
With
Tor
Right
On
The
Website
To
Tell
You
The
One
Line
You
Have
To
Add
To
It
And
The
Two
Lines
You
Comment
Out
I
Mean
And
There
Pictures
I
Mean
It's
Screen
Captors
Of
Exactly
What
To
Change
So
I
Actually
Think
The
Pyvoxy
That
I
Downloaded
You
Didn't
Have
To
Do
Everything
They
Actually
Fixed
A
Couple
Of
Things
Oh
Really
You
Already
Had
That
Added
In
There
I
Think
So
Some
Of
The
Stuff
Like
The
Two
Things
They
To
Comment
Out
Because
That's
Bad
I
Believe
I
Believe
If
You
Looked
In
Their
Change
Log
They
Said
Oh
Yeah
That's
A
Really
Good
Idea
We
Should
Do
Netscape
On
Junkbuster
Oh
Yes
Junkbuster
Was
A
Project
That
Ended
Right
Around
1998
I
Think
1998
Was
Their
Last
Release
It
Was
Version
2.0.2
And
Basically
Pyvoxy
Picked
Up
Where
Junkbuster
Left
Off
Junkbuster
Was
Great
In
1998
But
Now
In
2005
We
Have
All
These
Crazy
Tricks
That
People
Are
Doing
You
Know
There's
Tricks
With
Javascript
We're
Not
On
HTML
I'm
Sorry
HTTP
1.1
Anymore
It's
Just
Not
Where
We
Are
So
Pyvoxy
Is
The
Improvement
Of
Junkbuster
Yes
Junkbuster
Was
Fine
But
The
Spammers
And
The
Ad
Doers
Have
Gotten
Much
More
Smarter
Since
1998
Sadly
And
So
Therefore
It
Didn't
Work
So
Pyvoxy
Picked
Up
The
Torch
And
Is
Doing
An
Excellent
Job
Carrying
It
So
Okay
There's
Tor
Provides
The
Pyvoxy
Provides
The
I guess
You'd call
The
HTTP
Server
Yes
Now
Is
There
Any
Other
Things
You
Can
Use
With
Tor
That
Makes
Your
Life
Easier
More
Fun
Now
If
You
Wanted
To
Connect
To
An
FTP
Server
You
Can't
How
Would
I
Do
That
You
Can't
Do
That
Through
Pyvoxy
Because
Pyvoxy
Is
Only
An
HTTP
Proxy
It
Doesn't
Understand
The
Messaging
The
Protocol
Things
Like
That
What
Is
SoCat
And
You
Can
Get
That
Right
Off
Of
The
Tor
Website
They
Have
A
Million
Links
To
It
And
What
SoCat
Does
Is
It
Will
Actually
Form
Let's
Say
I
Want
To
Connect
To
Google.com
On
Port
21
Because
I
Want
To
Access
Their
FTP
Server
Whatever
Great
I
Go
Ahead
And
I
Give
The
Command
To
SoCat
And
SoCat
Has
I
Love
This
Program
I
Really
Do
But
It
Has
The
Worst
Command
Line
Options
I
Have
Ever
Heard
In
My
Entire
Life
I
Actually
Wrote
A
Program
Just
To
Pass
The
Command
Line
Options
Because
They're
So
Weird
But
Anyway
So
They're
Clear
About
What
It
Is
You
Can
Write
Your
Program
Or
If
You
Want
I'll
Post
It
On
The
Form
Whatever
What
It
Does
Is
It
Will
Form
That
Connect
You
Tell
I
Wanted
To
www.google.com
Port
21
Pipe
It
To
Local
Host
Port
9999
And
Then
All
I
Have
To
Do
Is
Use
My
Normal
FTP
And
I
Can
FTP
To
Local
Host
9999
And
That
Is
The
Exact
Equivalent
Of
Actually
FTP
Directly
To
Google
Port
21
Only
This
Is
Going
Through
Tor
And
A
Program
Like
Socat
Which
Is
Going
To
Be
Excellent
For
Any
Programs
They
Don't
Have
Built
In
Sox
Proxy
Support
You're
Going
To
Have
To
Go
Through
A
Program
Like
Socat
And
That
Will
Work
For
Just
About
Anything
For
SSH
It's
Really
Protocol
Independent
All
It's
Doing
Is
Creating
The
Pipe
For
You
Now
One
Drawback
With
Socat
And
You
Get
The
Same
Drawback
When
Using
Tor
For
An
IRC
Conversation
Or
Something
That's
An
Extended
Connection
Is
That
You're
Using
Tor
If
I
Use
Tor
With
Socat
And
I
Connect
To
My
Favorite
IRC
Server
Which
Would
Happen
To
Be
Down
That
Channel
Bin
Rev
Go
Anyway
It's
Going to
Keep
The
Same
Route
The
Entire
Time
It's
Not
Necessarily
A
Bad
Thing
You
Know
Because
If
I
Was
Going
To
Keep
Changing
Routes
That's
Going
To
Give
Somebody
That
Much
More
Chance
To
Be
To
See
What
It
Is
It's
An
Open
TCP
Connection
It
Doesn't
Hand
Off
Like
That
And
That's
Probably
The
Only
Drawback
Behind
Tor
Is
If
You
Have
An
Extended
Connection
Tor
Is
Much
More
Effective
When
It's
Being
Used
For
Browsing
The
Web
Because
You're
Going
To
Be
Coming
Out
Of
Different
IPs
Different
Things
Like
That
But
If
You
Just
Have
The
One
Connection
It's
Still
Not
You
It's
Still
Coming
Out
Somewhere
Else
Is
Still
Encrypted
It's
Still
I
Mean
You're
Not
Really
Getting
Tracked
By
It
But
You're
Going
To
Need
To
Use
A
Program
Like
Socat
Or
Tsox
Or
Something
Like
That
That's
Going
To
Create
That
Pipeline
For
You
It's
Going
To
Be
To
Connect
Through
There
And
That's
A
Beautiful
Thing
Especially
If
You're
Behind
A
Firewall
Or
Something
That
Doesn't
Allow
A
But
Yeah
Other
Than
That
I
Mean
You
Really
Get
Into
You
Get
Into
Whatever
Protocol
You
Want
To
Use
You
Can
Really
Just
Bind
It
To
A
Local
Host
Port
Through
A
Program
Like
Socat
Except
If
It's
UDP
Of
Course
As
We
Mentioned
Before
UDP
Is
Not
Supported
Over
Tor
For
A
Couple
Of
Reasons
Probably
The
First
Main
Reason
Is
It's
An
Entire
Different
Protocol
To
Implement
It
Would
Take
That
Much
More
Work
Second
Reason
Is
How
Are
You
Going
To
Get
A
Response
Through
UDP
Packet
There's
No
Error
Checking
It's
Just
Supposed
To
Send
It
Back
To
You
But
Who
Are
You
Could
Be
Somebody
Different
In
Five
Minutes
So
UDP
Doesn't
Really
Work
With
Tor
You
Need
To
Have
A
Full
TCP
IP
I'm
Sorry
Not
A
TCP
IP
A
And
Going
Through
All
That
Jazz
That's
Where
You're
Going
To
Try
To
Walk
With
Tor
The
Beauty
Of
It
Is
It's
A
Pipeline
For
You
To
Use
And
Whoever
You
Want
To
Use
It
You
Can
Use
It
For
Your
Web
Browsing
You
Can
Use
It
For
Your
FTP
You
Can
Use
The
Only
Thing
You
Can't
Use
It
For
Is
Port
25
Because
A
Lot
Of
Exit
Notes
Will
Jump
On
In
Well
I
Mean
We're
Going
To
Talk
About
The
Drawbacks
And
Why
People
Shouldn't
Be
Stupid
And
There
Are
Exit
Nodes
That
Block
Certain
Services
Like
For
Example
Port
25
Because
With
Tor
As
Always
Anonymy
Anonymitity
Is
A
Double
Edged
Sword
Because
It's
Good
Because
People
Can't
Track
You
But
At
The
Same
Time
If
Someone
Is
Harassing
You
Via
Tor
You
Can't
Track
Them
Back
I
I've
Heard
Of
A
Couple
Situations
Where
People
Have
Complained
To
Your
Favorite
Three
Letter
Agency
And
They
Have
Come
To
Exit
Node
Saying
Hey
Why
Are
You
Harassing
This
Person
And
There
Have
Been
Some
Legal
Troubles
I
Mean
The
People
Nothing
Bad
Has
Happened
To
These
People
But
The
No
One
Is
Actually
Sued
Tor
Yes
Yet
I
Am
Sure
It's
Coming
Because
One
Of
Tor
I
The
R
I
Double
A
Can't
Track
Me
So
Let
Me
Go
Set
Up
My
Bit
Torrent
And
Download
I
Don't
Know
The
New
Wallace
And
Gromit
Movie
And
I'll
Just
Use
Bit
Torrent
I'll
Be
Completely
Anonymous
Which
Sounds
Good
And
It
Will
Keep
Them
Anonymous
But
At
The
Same
Time
You're
Putting
These
A
Tremendous
Load
On
These
Exit
Ports
Not
Only
That
You're
Not
Really
Being
That
Anonymous
Because
How
Do
You
Think
That
Tracker
Is
Being
Located
Unless
You're
Resolving
DNS
For
It
You're
Resolving
To
The
Tracker
I
Mean
It
Is
Anonymous
It's
A
Lot
More
Anonymous
Than
Running
It
Off
Your
Public
IP
But
At
The
You
Know
What
You're
Doing
You
Could
Definitely
Dance
Around
It
Absolutely
Indeed
But
Of course
Not
All
These
People
Are
Doing
It
That
I
Heard
Of
Somebody
Who
Said
Oh
I
Got
This
Nice
Connection
I'll
Go
Set
Up
An
Exit
Port
And
They
Had
A
T3
And
At
Their
Work
And
They
Got
Their
Rost
Distribution
And
Everything
And
They
Said
Oh
How
Much
Bandwidth
Is
Going
To
Use
Probably
Not
A
Lot
Probably
A
Good
Size
Amount
But
Nothing
Horrible
And
They
Ran
It
For
24
Hours
And
They
Denial
Of
Service
But
The
Lag
Was
Noticable
And
I
Think
They
Took
Up
A
Good
Chunk
Of
Their
T3
Which
Is
Just
Disgusting
And
When
They
Did
Traffic
Analyzation
On
It
Much
To
His
Chagrin
But
He
Finally
Had
To
Figure
Out
What
The
Hell
Is
Going
On
With
This
Thing
And
They
Just
Saw
Bit
Torrent
Bit
Torrent
Bit
Torrent
That
That's
Really
Unfortunate
That
That's
What
It's
Coming
Down
To
Yeah
So
As
Always
Anonymity
Is
A
Double
Edged
Sword
And
Also
I'm
Sure
You
Can
Relate
To
This
How
Easy
Is
It
To
Get
On
IRC
Through
Tor
Oh
It
Is
Very
Difficult
And
The
Reason
Behind
Is
A
Network
Like
Down
That's
Having
A
Lot
Of
Large
Problems
Right
Now
With
Trolls
Or
People
Just
Coming
In
Spam
They're
Blocking
Every
Exit
Node
Because
All
The
Exit
Nodes
Are
Made
Public
I
Don't
Know
If
People
Realize
That
The
Exit
Nodes
Are
Public
There
Is
A
Place
Where
You
Can
Look
At
Every
Exit
Node
For
Tor
Who
Cares
Who
Cares
If
You
Know
Where
I'm
Coming
From
You
Just
Don't
Know
Exactly
Where
I
Am
You
Might
Know
My
Exit
Node
But
You're
Going
to
Know
Absolutely
And
I
Mean
You
Can
Even
Go
So
Far
To
Say
It's
Up
To
The
Individual
Exit
Node
Because
The
Exit
Node
Can
Arbitrarily
Block
Whatever
Ports
They
Want
To
It
Is
Their
Decision
Most
Of
Them
Won't
You
Know
Because
It
Defeats
The
Purpose
Of
Granting
You
This
Great
Service
Oh
And
By
The
Way
You
Can't
Use
This
Or
This
And
This
And
This
But
I
You
Are
Definitely
Seeing
That
Problem
Now
Where
Because
Of
Some
A
Few
People
Are
Creating
A
Problem
Tell
It
Like
It
Is
Because
Of
A
Couple
Of
Assholes
Actually
More
Than
A
Couple
Probably
A
Good
Handful
Of
Assholes
Are
Ruining
These
Services
Ruining
The
Service
For
A
Lot
Of
Decent
Hard
Working
Netizens
I
Mean
Let's
Be
Honest
It's
Not
Like
Really
Hardcore
Criminals
Are
Using
Tor
Isn't
Perfect
It's
A
Little
Bit
Slower
Than
The
Rest
Of
The
Internet
A
Hardcore
Criminal
Is
Using
His
Bot
Network
Or
Using
Compromised
Systems
To
Walk
Through
He's
Not
The
One
Who's
Really
You
Know
Everybody
Makes
Tor
To
Be
Well
If
You're
Anonymous
You're
Doing
Something
That
You
Shouldn't
Be
Doing
That's
Not
The
Case
It's
Not
A
Matter
Of
Tor
Is
A
Safe
Haven
For
Criminals
That's
Not
At
All
True
A
Criminal
Is
Going
To
Do
Whatever
They
Want
To
Do
Anyway
A
Criminal
Is
Not
A
Hacker
We're
Not
Going
To
Start
This
Debate
Again
But
A
True
Criminal
Can
Get
Access
To
Whatever
Server
They
Want
Anonymously
Anyway
What
Tor
Is
Doing
Is
Making
It
So
That
Not
Only
Criminals
Have
Privacy
And
It
Gets
To
A
Point
Where
In
Whatever
Country
Person
Isn't
Allowed
To
Have
Any
Sort
Of
Privacy
His
Rights
Can
Be
Trampled
On
Exposed
To
Everybody
This
Is
Why
The
EFF
Is
Standing
So
Hard
Behind
Tor
It's
Going
To
Give
The
Common
Person
The
Ability
To
Be
Anonymous
And
To
Have
His
Web
Surfing
Private
It's
Not
A
Matter
Of
Something
Illegal
Going
On
It's
Trying
To
Even
Out
The
Balance
Of
Power
Here
If
The
Only
People
Who
Are
Really
Being
Able
To
Do
Anything
That
They
Want
To
Do
Are
The
Criminals
Who
Are
Already
Willing
To
Break
The
Law
What
Are
We
Saying
About
Ourselves
As
A
Population
That
We're
Not
Allowing
The
Free
Dissemination
Of
Ideas
Indeed
And
Again
I'm
Going
To
Toss
Out
This
Plug
Again
It's
A
Book
It's
Called
Crypto
And
It's
By
Stephen
Levy
L
E
V
Y
And
For
Anyone
Interested
In
Cryptology
And
This
Whole
Anonymity
And
Keeping
The
Government
Off
Your
Back
You
Really
Should
Read
It
It's
A
Really
Cool
Book
It's
Basically
The
History
Of
The
Crypto
Movement
Just
Read
It
It's
Good
Ratchet
Recommended
All
That
Stuff
I'm
Going
To
Pick
That
Up
Yeah
It's
Good
So
Once
You
Cover
The
Last
Bit
About
Tor
Being
It
Really
Depends
On
What
You
Put
Into
It
Oh
I
Mean
That's
Just
Common
Sense
Really
I
Just
Sort
Of
Tossed
That
Down
There
But
I
Wasn't
Sure
If
I
Monitoring
That
On
The
Exit
Node
Or
Somewhere
Down
Stream
Of
That
They
Can
Trace
That
Back
To
That
IP
And
Sure
It's
Only
Good
For
A
Certain
Amount
Of
Time
Period
But
I'm
Basically
Blowing
My
Anonymity
Away
If
For
Example
I
Didn't
Do
Anything
Over
To
That
They
Wouldn't
Know
Who
The
Hell
I
Was
I
Just
Be
A
Random
IP
But
For
That
Somewhat
Time
Being
They
Actually
Know
Who
I
Am
So
And
Also
If
I'm
Sending
Out
Usernames
If
I'm
Sending
Out
Passwords
I
Don't
See
A
Way
Anyone
Would
Want
To
Use
An
Unencrypted
Service
Over
Tor
In
The
First
Place
Because
Even
Though
You're
Going
Directly
On
The
Exit
Node
If
Someone
Has
Compromised
That
Exit
Node
Or
Someone
That's
Looking
At
Exit
Note
They'll
Be
Able
To
Sniff
Your
Passwords
And
Everything
So
While
It's
Anonymous
It's
Not
Perfect
So
Basically
Just
Don't
Put
Any
Identifying
Information
Out
There
While
You're
Doing
This
It's
Literally
Just
Use
Common
Sense
It's
Kind
Of
Obvious
And
I
Think
Most
People
Here
Will
Understand
That
Oh
Hey
I
Shouldn't
Actually
Give
Out
My
Name
And
Address
When
I'm
Using
Anonymous
Proxy
But
Some
People
Will
And
We
Just
Want
To
Work
Hard
And
Enlighten
Those
Folks
So
Yes
Do
We
Want
To
Give
Some
Links
Out
Here
So
We
Can
Go
Tor
EFF
Org
That's
T-O-R
Dot
E-F-F
Dot
O-R-G
And
Privoxy
That's
W-W-W
Dot
Privoxy
P-R-I
V-O-X-Y
Dot
Org
And
Do
You
Have
The
Website
For
SoCat
Because
I
Don't
Have
That
One
You
Know
Off
Top
My
Head
I'm
Not
Sure
I
Know
It's
Right
There
On
The
Links
And
While
You're
Chatting
I'll
Look
It
Up
Just
To
Make
Sure
So
Tor
Is
Cool
I
Again
Ratchet
Approved
I
Guess
I
Should
Get
A
Rubber
Stamp
Or
Something
Sounds
Cool
To
Me
To
I
Probably
Should
Download
And
The
Onion
Router
I
Think I
Said
That
At
The
Beginning
Of
The
Show
Actually
I
Could
Be
Wrong
I
Don't
Know
But
Tor
Is
Cool
Do
We
Have
A
Website
Yet
Yes
The
SoCat
Multipurpose
Relays
Website
Is
www.dest
Hyphen
U
N
R
E
A
C
H
Dot
O
R
G
SoCat
Which
Is
S
O
C
A
T
But
It's
Really
Easy
To
Find
Just
From
The
Main
Tour
Website
Even
On
The
Page
Where
You
Download
Tour
Itself
There's
Links
To
It
So
It
Shouldn't
Be
Too
Much
Of
An
Issue
To
Find
And
Remember
That
SoCat
Not
SoCal
Exactly
I'm
So
Funny
Other
Cat
Ha
Yeah
Who
Is
Anyway
It
Cost
Me
$6,000
So
Namaskit
Says
That
The
Bin
Rev
508
Meeting
Is
This
Friday
At
The
Borders
In
Framingham
Around
6pm
85
Worcester
Road
Off
Route
9
That's
508
Bin
Rev
Meetings
Dot
Com
I
Won't
Be
There
Despite
It
Actually
Being
In
Massachusetts
I
Have
Previous
Engagement
Everyone
Wants
To
Meet
Me
I
Know
But
I
Won't
Be
There
I
Think
They
Were
Planning
The
Boston
2600
Some
Folks
Out
There
Were
Planning
A
Field
Trip
Out
To
Framingham
And
Might
Will
Be
At
That
Meeting
I'm
Not
100%
Sure
But
If
You're
In
The
Massachusetts
Area
Head
On
Out
There
Framingham
And
If
You're
Going
Out
In
Framingham
Anyway
Check
Out
The
Verizon
Framingham
Tandem
Giant
God
Large
Building
With
A
Huge
Antena
On
Top
And
It's
Fun
To
Look
At
And
Just
Think
All
Your
Long
Distance
Calls
Are
Being
Routed
Through
There
We
Also
Have
Merk
M-E-R-K
Who
Is
Completing
That
We
Don't
Have
Enough
International
Letters
Or
Something
He
Also
Wants
To
Be
He's
Thinking
About
Setting
Up
A
Bin
Rev
Meeting
In
The
301
202
Area
Code
And
That's
DC
In
The
Suburbs
And
Maryland
I
Believe
Yeah
DC
Is
202
And
Maryland
Is
301
And
There's
An
Overlay
For
301
Or
Something
I
Believe
There's
410
Out
There
As
Well
Yeah
410
Is
Another
Half
Of
Maryland
Yeah
Anyway
He
Says
Anyone
Who
Might
Be
Interested
For
Information
Or
Wanting
To
Help
Them
Out
Email
Him
At
Merck
At
T
W
A
Tech
Dot
Or
And
That's
M-E-R-K
At
T
W
A
T
Meeting
Actually
You
Want
To
Say
This
One
Since
You
Know
What
The
Hell
Is
Going
On
Sure
The
BINRAF
561
Meeting
It
Should
Be
This
Week
But
It
Is
Being
Pushed
Back
A
Week
And
That's
Due
To
Freak
Nick
We're
All
Going
To
Be
At
Freak
Nick
Sorry
Guys
But
Instead
Of
Being
This
Week
The
Meeting
Will
Be
Next
Week
The
Meeting
Location
Is
Also
Moved
It's
Been
Up
On
The
Website
For
About
A
Month
Now
Instead
Of
Meeting
At
The
Town
Center
Mall
We're
Going
To
Be
Meeting
At
The
Panera Bread
On
Yamato
And
Federal
Highway
It's
Big
It's
Easy
To
See
Nice
Comfortable
Chairs
And
Free
Wi-Fi
Which
Is
Something
We
Didn't
Have
In
The
Mall
So
Come
On
Down
And
Check
Us
Out
Not
Also
DC213
Which
Is
The
Defcon
Group
For
The
Los
Angeles
Area
Is
Having
Its
Two
Year
Anniversary
This
Friday
It's
Systems
Technology
Inc.
In
Hawthorne
I
Don't
Remember
The
Exact
address
It's
Like
One
It's
On
DC213
It's
Like
The
13,000
Block
Of
Hawthorne
Boulevard
In
Hawthorne
Yes
I
Know
That's
Out
In
310
Land
But
213
Is
Considering
Moving
It
Back
To
213
If
I
Can
Find
A
Decent
Meeting
Space
In
There
But
Go
To
DC213
Dot
Or
Check
It
Out
If
You're
In
The
Los
Angeles
Area
And
You're
Going
To
Be
Free
This
Friday
Systems
Tech
Inc.
From
Like
8pm
Onwards
So
Show
Up
We
Have
A
Barbecue
Yeah
Freak
Nick
When
And
Where
Freak
Nick
Is
In
Nashville
Tennessee
This
Weekend
It
Starts
Friday
At
Noon
The
Presentations
Begin
And
The
Presentations
End
Saturday
Night
Relatively
Late
I'm
Not
Exactly
Sure
On
The
Time
I'll
Be
There
Thursday
Night
A
Bunch
Of
People
Will
Be
Getting
There
Thursday
Night
We're
Going
To
Try
To
Do
A
Little
Bit
Of
A
Meetup
There's
Only
One
Meeting
Room
And
There's
The
Area
Where
Everybody
Hangs
Out
So
We'll
Hold
Up
A
Sign
Or
Just
Look
For
Us
The
Guys
In
The
Black
Shirts
That
Have
VR
On
Them
And
We're
Definitely
Going
To
Try
To
At
Get
Together
And
Maybe
Go
Out
To
Dinner
Or
Something
Similar
To
A
Bar
For
Those
Of
Who
Are
Old
Enough
And
Things
Like
That
But
Yeah
Definitely
Try
To
Head
Up
To
Freak
Nick
It's
Really
Cheap
Registration
I
Want
To
Save
20
But
Don't
Quote
I
Don't
Think
It's
The
Holiday
Inn
But
It's
Being
Held
Exactly
At
And
I
Can
Give
You
An
Address
Is
It
On
Freaknick.org
Actually
It's
Freaknick.info
And
The
Actual
Hotel
It's
Staying
At
It's
Obviously
The
21st
To
23rd
It's
Tanking
Place
At
The
Days
In
Stadium
In
Nashville
Tennessee
And
The
Address
Of
That
Location
Is
As
We
Wait
See
This
Is
The
Okay
So
It's
At
The
We
Can
Enter
Into
Google
Maps
Or
Freaknick.info
It's
In
Stadium
Slash
Downtown
211
North
First
Street
Nashville
Tennessee
Yeah
It's
Freaknick.info
Just don't
Mix up
The dot
Info
And
Yeah
That's
Freaknick
It should
Be
Pretty
Entertaining
And
Exciting
Come
And
Meet
The
Illustrious
Dr.
Zegman
And
As long
As
We're
Doing
Announcements
Just
Real
Quick
The
Magazine
Is
I'd be
More than
Happy
To
Ship
It
To
You
It's
A lot
Of
Fun
Believe
Me
I have
My own
P.O.
Box
Now
I'm
Very
Excited
Those
Are
Fun
Yes
But
The
First
Three
Issues
Are
Out
And
Sooner
Or
Later
We're
Going to
Have
That
Fourth
One
On
There
But
If
You
Have
Missed
Out
And
You
Haven't
Gotten
The
First
Three
Issues
And
You
Wanted
To
Check
Them
Out
They're
Five
Bucks
Each
Shipping
Is
Dirt
Cheap
I
Think
We
Charged
$2.50
For
Shipping
And
It
Actually
Costs
Us
$2.61
So
It's
Alright
We
Love
You
Guys
And
We
Want
You
To
Come
Get
The
Magazine
You
Can
Order
It
Online
There's
A
Big
Link
Right
On
The
Front
Page
Of
www.binrev.com
And
We'll
Take
Care
Of
It
We'll
Get
It
Shipped
Right
Out
To
Because
I
Never
Actually
Got
One
And
Final
Announcement
Hurry
Up
Yeah
Binrev Radio
Will
Be
Broadcasting
Live
Next
Week
I
Will
Have
Everything
Set
Up
We
Will
Be
Broadcasting
Live
At
What
Time
Do
We
Broadcast
Live
It's
Like
5
PM
9
30
9
30
PM
Eastern
Yeah
On
Tuesday
Whatever
Tuesday
Next
Week
Is
Okay
Make
Sure
To
If
This
Doesn't
Happen
It's
Strom's
Fall
Because
I
Just
Heard
About
This
Right
Now
Yeah
Well
I'm
Getting
A new
Asterisk
Box
Set
Up
We
Will
Be
Live
And
We
Will
Also
Try
And
Take
Your
Call
Leave
Us
Voicemail
Area
Code
213
415
1047
And
Email
As always
Is
Radio
At
Binrev.com
Zygman
Quick
Shouts
Go out
Quickly
To
Biz
RM
Pants
Everyone
Who
Submitted
To
Hack
TV
And
To
My
Illustrious
Co-host
Today
Thank
You
Very
Much
And
I'll send
Shouts
Right
Out
Back
To
You
And
That's
It
Yep
Strom
Shouts
To
Zygman
I
Feel
Love
Nice
Closing
Music
Tonight
Is
Shave
By
Enon
Epitonic
Dot
Com
And
As
Always
We
Will
See
You
Next
Week
Same
Hack
Time
Same
Hack
Channel
Something
Never
Must
Be
In
The
Same
I
Know
You
Can
Save
All
Your
Money
To
Secure
Your
Favor
I
Know
You
Can
Share
Save
Eu
Unfortunately
And
I
Know
You
Can
Stay
In
Your
Room
W
Expense
To
Maybe
Up
Them
I
Say
Thank you.
Time, my love, up to the end of time.