This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll school you on burning dream packs
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just packed out Jones
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Serial codes, source codes, ISO
Hello and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio
Episode number 119 for October 25th, 2005
I'm Strom Carlson
And I'm Black Ratchet
Who was muted for some reason
Because I forgot to unmute myself
Yeah
The problem with Cisco's is that you always get side-toned
No matter if you're muted or not
Yeah, unfortunately
That's why the light's red
So you can look at it and see
Oh, mute!
Yeah, but I'm looking at my computer
There's other things I need to do, damn it
So, you can go ahead
It's a historical episode
Cause you set it all up
This is all you
Yeah, this is a historic episode
Because we are streaming live right now
This is not a recording
We are, yeah, we're streaming live
You're hearing us on about a 25 second delay
I think last time I checked
And we're nervous as hell
For some bizarre reason
We don't know if this is going to screw up
Well, we're pretty sure that it may screw up at one point
But we at least get out there
And we're providing content right now
Yeah
So, well, I guess that's worth something
But, of course, you also get to hear all the times
That we screw up during the show
That we edit out in the post-production process
Yeah
Like, for example, I just had to dial back in
Cause my phone blanked out
So, I actually just popped in right before
Strom's heard talking, thank goodness
Yeah, thank God
Anyway, yeah
That was kind of annoying
If you're listening to us on the podcast
And you didn't realize it was live this week
Shame on you
Tune in live next week
Because not only are we live
We are taking calls
We are actually going to be taking your phone calls
Questions, what not
And, uh
Should we give the number out now?
Ratchet?
Yeah, see, I think my phone's acting up
Oh dear, yeah
Now Ratchet's on his 2500 set
No, see, now my other phone's running up
Gee, see
See, this is the glory of live radio
Right here
See, this phone was acting fine
For the past hour and a half
Yet right now
Bam, just faded out twice
Within like five minutes
Well yeah, we were doing a test run
And the, um
What happened?
My second Cisco phone
Just felt like totally crashed
And rebooted itself on me
So
I was
Madly getting everything back together again
Yes
But I am amazed that this is working
That we are streaming live
Yeah, well
Let's just hope it keeps working this way
Yeah
Because I'll feel quite lucky
So
We are raising the bar
For BinRev Radio
Hell, we've gone beyond raising the bar
We take the bar
And we stick it in your eye
Okay
Ben, Ben, what's our new slogan?
BinRev Radio
Better than a pointy stick in the eye?
Exactly, exactly
Yes
Okay, so
We'll just sort of get this out of the way
Um
What's our call in line?
This episode is going to be
All user driven
Hopefully
Yeah
And we're going to have
Call in, ask your questions
Or just send shouts out
Or whatever
Yeah
So
Because right now
We don't have a guest
Because
We were sort of
Questioning whether or not
Oh, I was questioning
Strom was always confident
But I was to worrywart
About whether or not
This would actually get done
So we don't have a guest tonight
So you guys are going to be the co-hosts
There's going to be all
Like a bunch of
Co-hosts calling in at random times
Mm-hmm
This is so weird
To see people talking about
What we're saying
As we're saying it
In the IRC channel
Anyway
If you guys want to
Call in
The phone number
Is toll free
800
800-732-0442
I repeat
800-732-0442
And you can
Call that
And you'll hear the whole music
You'll sit in the queue
And we'll take your call
In the order it was received
If for some reason
The toll free number
Doesn't work for you
Or if you're listening
From outside the US
And you can't dial
Our 800 numbers here
You can call the
The regular line
At area code
213-415-1047
Repeat again
213-415-1047
And we'll
Take your call there
They both go to the same queue
So calling one
Has no advantage
Over calling the other number
So call the toll free number
First if you can
Okay
Yeah
Plus it's free to you
So whatever
I mean
We really don't care
If you want to pay
For long distance
Also we're both in
IRC.dal.net
Pound binrev
So
You guys can
Pop over there
And message us
And ask questions
Or whatever
Basically
Anything goes tonight
Within this thing
We will dump you
If you get obscene
On the air
Or anything
But
Other than that
I mean
Go right ahead
And since we don't
Have a guest tonight
I hooked up
I've been busily
Programming this
We now have
The Stank Dog
Simulator 3000
I thought it was
The Stank 9000
Hello all you
Rats galleons out there
This is Stank Dog
So this is what
You can enjoy
While we're doing this
Yeah
During our testing
Ratchet kept
Playing that thing
And I wondered
How long it'll be
Before people scream at us
That the stank recordings
Are too annoying
Well
Who cares
Because I haven't
And it's cool
Take a dick out of your mouth
Maybe that'll help
Okay
Do we have any other
Housekeeping things tonight
I'm not sure
I mean
Do you think we're going to
Screw up
That's the question
Will we screw up
Will
We make mistakes
Will Strom
Accidentally
And irrevocably
Reveal his homosexuality
To the masses
I think I've revealed that
A hundred times already
On the forum
So I don't think
I need to worry
About that
We're just
Flying by the seat
Of our pants tonight
So sit back
And enjoy
Fly by the seat
Of your pants
Bullshit
You think it's time
For email
I think it's time
For email
Okay let me
Grab my handy
Dandy email theme
Here
Alright
Well we have email tonight
Do you want to read
The first email
Or shall I
I'll read the first email
Dear
Binrev Radio
You have a very nice show
I like the format
And hope you continue
The good work
Strom is great
Black Ratchet is cool
And Dr. Zed
Should be a permaguest
Just finished listening
To your tour show
I'm not an expert
In anything
But still some
Bearded rainbows
To discuss
See
SWLabR
For details
Okay
I run a tour node
And it makes me feel good
So I guess it makes me
An expert
In giving away bandwidth
I'm addicted to finding ways
To obfuscate identity
Of course we all know
Nothing is truly anonymous
But you knew that already
See here are some comments
On the show
One
Removed
Okay
Two
At DEF CON 13
The EFF
Was giving away
Tor shirts
To those running
Tor nodes
That was cool
Number three
Please mention to contribute
To tor.eff.org
Four
You're right
Tor will eat up
All of your available bandwidth
Up to and including
A T3
Ouch
Number five
You mentioned one
Tor client
But it's worth mentioning
A very cool application proxy
That has an integrated
Tor client
In Java
No less
Java anonymous proxy
It can be found
At tinyurl.com
Slash
Three
B
Six
R
Three
Bravo
Six
Romeo
I'll leave all the
Tiny URL reading to you
So
Yeah that would make
The most sense
It uses
Mixmaster
Like technology
To anonymize
Web connections
The actual
Anonymity
Or the
JAP client
Is questionable
But the
Tor client
Has a very nice
Interface
Signed
CW
Well
Thanks CW
As always
Shouts to Dr. Zygman
I think that
At least I feel
He's hit
Two home runs
For each show
He's been on
I was checking out
That JAP
I constantly
Am referring to it
As JAP
So I'm not sure
What the official
Name is
It's pretty cool
And I think
It's a very
Cool use
Of the Tor
Network
And I really
Think it's perfect
For people
Who have to use
Like public PCs
And they can't
Install software
On their
Say
School
Internet cafes
Work
Etsy
And it's
Just cool
Yeah
I've yet
To play
With this
Stuff
So
JAP's
Need
I was
Fiddling
Around
With my
Tor
Client
So
It was
Cool
And I
Thoroughly
Enjoyed
It
And it's
Just
It's
Not
Perfect
But I
Much
Prefer
Provoxy
But at
The same
Time
You can't
Install
Provoxy
Wherever you
Are all
The time
Like you
Know
For example
If you're
On a
Public
Internet
Cafe
Sometimes
Of course
You can't
Do your
Proxy
Settings
Over there
So you're
Hosed
Anyway
Regardless
Exactly
So
I'll do
The next
Email
First off
I'm curious
Why number
One was
Removed
I mean
If you're
Writing
Email
And you're
Editing
That's a
Good point
If you're
Editing
The email
You know
You can
Delete
And
Renumber
Yeah
It was
Strange
And I
Just think
He was
Being deep
Dark
And mysterious
There
And
He ended
Up just
Looking weird
When I
Initially read
The email
But you know
We'll just
Leave it as
It is
Whatever
Yeah
No one
Our next
Email is
From Booter
Hey
I will
Sing to
Episode 117
When you
Mentioned
That you
Submitted
Binrev Radio
To Yahoo's
New Audio
Search
I did a
Search for
The show
At
Podcast
Yahoo.com
And there
Were a
Few
Results
You can
Come check
Them out
At
The link
Below
Tinyurl.com
Slash
B
D
8GH
Bravo
Delta
8
Golf
Hotel
Booter
And
That
URL
That you
Gave us
That
Searches
For
Binrev
Radio
Which is
What we
Call ourselves
But our
Official name
Is
Binary
Revolution
Radio
And if
You go
On Yahoo's
Podcast
Directory
We are
There
Just do
A search
For
Binary
Revolution
Radio
And we'll
Be there
For everyone
To see
And we'll
Be happy
And good
And
I was
Actually
Kind of
Impressed
At Yahoo
They're
Doing a
Pretty
Nice
Job
With
This
Stuff
I think
The
Interface
Is
Pretty
Nice
It's
Clean
It's
Very
Intuitive
For the
Most
Part
And they
Also
Have
Built
In
RSS
List
Where you
Can
Subscribe
To
Certain
Things
And get
A nice
Podcast
For all
Your
Favorite
Podcast
And I
Was
Pleased
To see
That
Three
Users
Have
Rated
Us
And we
Have
A 4.5
Out of
Five
Stars
However
We don't
Have
Any
People
Who are
Reviewing
Us
Yet
So
I
Have
A request
All of
Our
Listeners
I'd like
To see
You
All
Rate
The
Hell
Out
Of
Us
Good
I
Hope
But if
You
Think
We
Suck
Oh
You
Know
What
You
Going
To
Do
I'd
Like
To
Ask
You
Subscribe
I'm
Not
Sure
What
Exactly
It
Entails
That
Might
Involve
Having
A
Yahoo
Account
And
I
Also
Like
To see
A few
People
Write
Reviews
I
Feel
Kind
Of
I
Don't
Know
What
You
Would
Say
I
Subscribe
And
You
Know
Do
Whatever
You
Want
Stank
Always
Promoted
The
Hell
Out
Of
The
Show
And
I
Tried
To
Do
My
Part
I
Went
Out
There
And
As soon
As I
Found
Out
About
This
I
Submitted
Bin
Rev
Radio
And
Now
It's
Your
Turn
I
Really
Want
To
Boot
This
Week
In
Tech
Off
The
Number
One
Spot
And
That's
Probably
Not
Going
To
Happen
But
At
The
Same
Time
You
Never
Know
It's
Good
To
Have
Dreams
I
Guess
And
Yes
I
Do
Have
Delusions
Of
Grand
Ear
Why
Do
You
Ask
All
Right
So
I'll
Read
The
Next
Email
Yeah
Sure
Go
Right
Ahead
Okay
Hey
Guys
Great
Job
Uncovering
A
Wide
Variety
Of
Topics
And
Thanks
For
Recommending
The
White
Supremacist
Web
Host
I
Think
I'm
Going
To
Sign
Up
Open
An
Interracial
Gay
Pornside
On
Their
Server
Reveal
To
Them
I'm
From
Japan
And
Send
Them
A
Picture
Of
Me
Kissing
My
White
Girlfriend
Or
Something
Anyways
A few
Things
To
E-Man
Or
Whatever
His
Name
Is
About
His
Free
BSD
Comments
That
Would
Be
Dr.
Zygman
Number
One
Oh
No
I
Don't
Think
That
Was
Him
That
We
Got
Last
Week
Oh
Okay
Never
Mind
Number
One
There
Is
A
KDE
Slash
FreeBSD
Website
At
FreeBSD
Dot
KDE
Dot
Org
Number
Two
Gentoo's
Portage
Has
A
Much
Greater
Portion
Of
Their
Software
As
Broken
At
Any
Given
Time
No
Comment
On
Debian's
Package
System
I
Think
It's
Okay
Besides
The
Fact
That
You
Have
Three
Different
Branches
To
Deal
With
And
That
Is
Glacially
Out
Of
Date
Most
Of
The
Time
Number
Three
You
Don't
Complain
When
You
CVS
Your
Source
To
The
Bleeding
Edge
Untested
Branch
Of
The
Source
And
You
Can't
Get
KDE
Working
Number
Four
You
Can
Search
Freshports
Dot
Org
Or
FreeBSD
Dot
Org
Slash
Ports
Not
That
Hard
Keep
Up
The
Good
Work
Binrev
And
TLLTS
Are
The
Only
Good
Shows
Out
There
Kato
Fate
How
Do
You
Pronounce
Yeah
I
Think
It
Might
Be
Sort
Of
A
Japanese
Pronunciation
And
You
Nailed
It
As
The
Way
I
Would
And
Tato
Anytime
I
Was
Curious
If
Anyone
Is
Actually
Bothered
Our
Fine
Bigoted
Web
Hosting
Friends
Down
In
The
South
There
Sank
What
Do
You
Think
Of
Them
Give
Me
A
Fucking
Break
I
Would
Find
It
Humorous
If
Someone
Did
Kind
Of
Do
Something
Like
That
But
I
Condone
Harassment
Or
Hacking
Or
Annoying
People
Despite
Their
Alternate
Viewpoints
That
Might
Not
Agree
With
Ours
Blah
At
The
Same
Time
We
Probably
Find
It
Quite
Humorous
And
I
Like
To
Say
To
Tato
That
Debian
Package
System
There's
Three
Branches
There's
Testings
Unstable
And
Stable
Is
Glacial
But
At
The
Same
They
Only
Try
To
They
Try
To
Keep
All
The
Versions
The
Same
And
They
Try
To
What
Do
They
Try
To
Do
They
Just
Try
To
Keep
All
The
Versions
The
Same
Just
Backport
Security
Fixes
Over
To
The
Programs
That
They
Use
And
It's
Designed
For
Running
A
Server
Where
If
You're
Running
A
Program
That
Can't
Be
Tested
With
The
New
Software
That's
Always
Coming
Out
And
Might
Break
Something
Just
Run
Debian
Sable
It
Won't
Change
And
It
Won't
Break
So
That's
What
That
Is
As
For
Gentoo
I've
Never
Used
It
I
Know
A lot
Of
People
Do
But
At
The
Same
Point
Whatever
You know
Yeah
Running
A Debian
Server
It's
Actually
Kind
Of
Nice
To
Be
To
Have
The
Option
Of
A
Stable
So
Let's
See
Oh
My
Gosh
Somebody
Just
Called
In
So
We'll
Actually
No
Let's
Go to
The
Email
First
Okay
We'll
Do
Our
First
Email
And
Then
We'll
Take
Our
Call
So
Callers
Are
On
Hold
You
Want
To
Read
This
Yeah
I'll
Read
This
And
You
Can
Answer
It
While
I
Screen
The
Caller
Hey
Black
Ratchet
And
Strom
I
Have
A few
Questions
About
Programming
Projects
I
Have
A
Project
I've
Been
Working
On
In
Dot
Net
That
Is
Getting
Close
Are
Good
Places
To
Go
To
Get
An
End
User
License
Agreement
A
Software
Licenses
Free
Application
Closed
Source
And
How
To
Figure
Out
The
System
Requirements
For
The
Application
And
Releasing
Might
Be
A
Good
Subject
For
An
Episode
That
Would
Appreciate
The
Help
And
Of
Course
Your
Friend
Termite
Okay
Let's
Go
Screen
Our
First
Call
Are
We're
Actually
Screening
People
I
Just
Thought
We're
Going
Bring
Them
To
The
Conference
And
Dumb
Them
If
They
Are
Annoying
I
Figure
I
Should
At
Least
Get
Their
Handle
And
Ask
What
Their
Question
Is
Wow
We're
Actually
Kind
Of
Professional
Here
We're
Not
Flying
By
The
Seat
Of
Our
Pants
I'll
Be
Right
Back
So
Anyway
Well
Termite
I'd
Just
Like
To
Say
Why
Aren't
You
Releasing
The
Source
I
Mean
It's
Well
Within
Your
Rights
Not
To
Do
It
But
At
The
Same
Time
Hey
Consider
Opening
Your
Code
I
Mean
What
What's
The
Big
Problem
With
Not
Doing
That
If
You
Have
Problems
With
The
GPL
It's
Not
The
Only
Open
Source
License
Out
There
BSD
I
Think
Apache
Has
A
Good
One
There's
Tons
Of
Open
Source
Licenses
Out
There
And
A
Lot
Of
Them
Approved
By
The
Open
Source
Software
Consortium
Either
Way
I
Looked
And
I
Really
Couldn't
Find
A
Quote
Unquote
Standard
EULA
End
User
License
Agreement
I
Guess
They're
Sort
Of
Worked
On
By
Tons
Of
Lawyers
For
A
Lot
Of
Money
For
A
Reason
And
That's
Why
You
Do
It
So
You
Can
Hire
Massive
Amounts
Of
Lawyers
Spend
Money
On
Them
And
Have
A
Fool
Proof
Software
But
If
You
Do
Release
An
End
User
License
Agreement
And
You
Want
To
Close
Your
Code
Up
That's
No
Problem
Go
Right
Ahead
That's
Well
Thing
You're
Right
Like
I
Said
And
Just
Make
It
Fun
Code
Weavers
If
You
Have
Their
Crossover
Plugin
If
You
Look
At
Their
End
User
License
Agreement
You
Know
Major
Read
This
Please
And
They
Always
Say
Please
Read
This
And
They
Put
In
Parentheses
Like
Just
Some
Kind
Of
A
Strange
Thing
Like
I
Believe
One
Of
The
Versions
Said
Especially
About
The
Free
Car
Washes
For
Life
In
Section
Seven
And
I
Believe
Another
Version
Said
Especially
The
Clause
About
Giving
Up
Your
First
Born
Son
In
Section
Eight
And
If
You
Scroll
Down
To
Section
Seven
Or
Eight
They
Usually
said
Ah
Just
Making
Sure
Your
Reading
And
I
Found
That
Humorous
So
Do
We
Have
A
Caller
Um
We
Did
The
Person
Didn't
Say
Anything
But
I
Could
Hear
The
Stream
Going
In
The
Background
Let
Me
Try
Again
To
Grab
Them
Also
People
If
When
You
Do
Call
In
This
Does
Work
Like
The
Radio
Have
It
So
That
Your
Stream
Is
Off
In
The
Background
So
You
You're
Not
Echoing
25
Per
Second
Beforehand
And
That
Could
Be
Really
Annoying
Yeah
So
Let
See
Who
This
Person
Is
Let's
Give
This
Another
Shot
Actually
Stank
Why
Don't
You
Sing
For
Us
We
Are
A
Part
Of
The
Rhythm
Nation
Just
So
You
Know
I'd
Like
To
Send
Shouts
Out
To
I
Have
To
Go
Look
Back
In
The
Email
Because
Someone
Actually
Sent
This
In
Actually
His
Name
Is
Jeremy
He
Looks
Like
It's
Real
Thing
But
Thank
You
Jeremy
For
Sending
This
In
You
Guys
Rock
We're
Going
To
Have
I
Was
Having
Immense
Fun
With
This
Earlier
Like
It
Was
Thoroughly
Annoying
Strom
It
Was
It
Was
Amazing
And
I
Also
Like
To
Thank
David
Because
I
Actually
He
Sent
Some
Stuff
In
Early
August
Oh
He
Actually
Gave
A
Handle
But
I
Won't
Associate
His
Handle
With
His
Name
So
Who
Cares
Yeah
What
Was
I
Going
To
Say
The
Whoever
Calling
In
Yeah
The
Caller
Who
You
Know
I'm
Talking
To
You
On
The
Phone
If
I
Ask
You
To
Please
Talk
It
Would
Be
Helpful
If
You
Said
Something
You
Know
There
Always
Yeah
So
Let's
Call back
Again
But
When I
Say
Bin
Rev
Radio
I'm
Answering
The
Phone
And
I
Would
Appreciate
It
If
You
Talk
Back
I
Maybe
He's
A
Mime
Have
We
Thought
About
That
Maybe
Our
Call
Online
Is
Not
88
I
Because
It's
Fading
Out
Far
Too
Much
And
This
Is
The
Glory
Of
Live
Radio
I
Actually
Had
My
Other
Phone
Hooked
Up
Into
It
And
I
Was
Actually
Listening
On
One
And
Talking
On
Another
Because
This
Has
A
Nice
Annoying
Carbon
Mic
On
It
So
I'm
Going to
Be
Brought
By
Western
Electric
Goodness
Oh
Boy
This
Should
Yeah
So
We're
Going to
Sound
Extra
Crappy
Here
I'm
Going to
Sound
Like
The
Email
Theme
I'm
Very
I'm
Very
Sad
That
No one
Is
Calling
In
Yeah
Well
Hang on
They
Claimed
That
They
Couldn't
Hear
Me
So
Let
Me
Do
Some
Quick
Test
And
Why
Don't
You
I
Guess
We
Can
Talk
About
Our
Specific
I
Go
Into
My
Personal
Okay
Yeah
So
Well
I
Really
Didn't
Do
Much
This
Week
I
Got
A
New
Computer
Case
And
I
Going
To
Head
Out
Set
Up
And
I'm
Going
To
Set
Up
It's
A
Nice
Indwin
450
And
If
You
Ever
Seen
These
Cases
In
My
Opinion
They're
Like
Little
Tiny
Gods
They're
Absolutely
Glorious
And
So
They're
Tall
They're
Huge
You
Can
Fit
Tons
Of
Stuff
Into
Them
And
I
Already
Have
One
And
I'm
Really
Just
Tempted
To
I'm
Really
Happy
That
I
Have
Two
Of
Them
So
I
Can
Just
Set
Them
Up
And
Get
Them
Going
There
Also
I
Picked
Up
A
Nice
Little
Object
It's
Called
A
Whistle
Interjet
And
It's
Very
Interesting
It's
A
Small
Box
It's
About
Six
Feet
It's
The
Ineac
Of
Computers
It's
About
Six
Inches
By
Eight
Inches
Tall
Six
Inches
Wide
Inches
Tall
And
About
A
Foot
Long
And
It
Has
A
46
DX
Pro
Processor
On
There
I
Think
It
Runs
At
100
MHz
It's
CYRIC
So
It
Runs
Rather
Toasty
But
We
Won't
Get
Into
That
And
It
Has
A
Hard
Drive
And
A
Three
ISA
Slots
On
There
So
It
Was
Designed
To
Run
A
Free
BSD
Variant
On
There
And
What
It
Does
Now
Is
What
You
Can
Do
With
It
Is
That
It
It's
A
Full
X86
PC
It
Has
RAM
The
Whole
Shebang
And
Three
Slots
So
You
Can
Just
Sort
Of
Toss
Anything
In
There
It
Was
Originally
Designed
For
Sharing
Internet
And
I
Think
It's
What
I'm
Going
To
Make
It
Use
For
You
Can
Just
Pop
It
Out
There
And
I'm
Desperately
Trying
To
Get
To
Working
With
A
Software
Called
IPCOP
And
What
IPCOP
Is
Just
Sort
Of
Embedded
Router
Solution
And
I'm
Just
Tossing
On
There
And
Fooling
Around
With
It
Problem
Is
That
It
Has
No
Monitor
And
It
Has
No
Keyboard
And
I
Have
To
Do
Everything
Via
Serial
Port
And
I
Haven't
Actually
Gotten
That
Working
Yet
So
That
That's
Annoying
Strom
Do
We
Have
Somebody
Yet
We
Have
Got
A
Caller
Yay
We
Have
Ionix
And
Let
Me
Bring
Him
In
Right
Now
Just
A
Sec
Let's
See
If
That
Worked
We're
Going
Hello
Ionix
Hello
Bin
Rev
Radio
This
Is
A
Celebration
Our
First
Live
Call
In
Caller
We're
Amazing
Oh
My
Lord
That
Is
Absolutely
Amazing
I
Want
To
Off
You
Guys
A
Congratulations
On
Going
With
A
Live
Format
I
Do
Realize
How
Difficult
It
Can
Be
I've
Been
A
Part
Of
Hacker
Voice
Radio
Over
In
The
UK
For
A
Couple
Of
Months
Now
And
We
Do
A
Monday
Through
Friday
Daily
Show
Which
Goes
Out
Live
And
There
Have
Been
A
Few
Shows
That
Haven't
Been
Plagued
By
A
Couple
Of
Problems
So
I
Want
To
Give
You
Guys
A
Congratulations
It
Seems
Going
Very
Smoothly
Oh
God
Now
You
Said
That
We're
Completely
Hosed
Yeah
We're
Jinxed
Well
Our
Host
Happens
To
Be
A
Fan
Of
Skype
So
That
Tends
To
Be
The
Major
Issue
We're
Dealing
With
That
And
Hooking
In
Like
Four
Voice
Over
IP
Services
At
The
Same
Time
Yeah
I
Think
You
Should
Standardize
On
Just
Asterisk
Or
Something
Oh
We
Trust
Me
We'd
Like
To
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
Why
My
Cisco
Phone
Isn't
Working
I'm
Very
Displeased
By
That
Because
I
Sound
Just
Immensely
Better
Over
There
Not
That
You
Know
8000
Bit
Ulaw
Is
Really
Good
But
At
The
Same
Time
I'm
Sure
Carbon
Mic
Doesn't
Help
Oh
Lordy
The
Second
Thing
I
Wanted
To
Ask
You
Or
The
First
Thing
I
Wanted
To
Ask
You
About
Was
Web
Encryption
Over
Wi-Fi
I
Was
Wondering
If
You
Knew
If
Wi-Fi
Routers
Had
Been
Implementing
A
Web
Standard
That
Doesn't
Broadcast
Weak
IV
Frames
I'm
Not
100%
Sure
About
That
But
I
Believe
Certain
Things
Is
And
Also
Web
Is
Kind
Of
Going
Away
Well
At
Most
Part
It's
Still
There
But
Everyone
Is
Going
Rah
WPA
Right
Now
Oh
See
I
Think
That's
A
Bad
Thing
There's
Drawbacks
To
Both
Approaches
Oh
I
Agree
Entirely
Yeah
I
Mean
You're
Going
To
Be
Damned
If
You
Do
Damned
If
You
Don't
But
At
The
Same
Point
I'm
Not
Sure
If
Anyone
Has
Actually
Addressed
That
Issue
Perhaps
Someone
In
Our
Listening
Audience
Can
Come
And
Call
In
And
Give
Us
An
Answer
Yes
I
Can
Actually
Request
That
Now
Because
We're
Live
We
Can
What's
Actually
Pretty
Amusing
Is
I
Was
At
My
College
The
Library
And
I
Was
Looking
At
The
Instructions
To
Connect
My
Laptop
Via
Wi-Fi
And
What's
Kind
Of
Funny
They
Tell
You
Use
No
Encryption
Or
WEP
Or
WPA
But
They
Give
Everyone
The
Same
Damn
Key
It's
0123456789
So
It's
Like
If
Everyone
Has
The
Same
Key
I
Think
You've
Defeated
The
Point
Oh
Boy
Well
The
Security
Is
No
Longer
Obscure
Yeah
No
You
Can
Tell
My
School
Has
A
Crack
Squad
Of
Security
Engineers
Working
The
Account
System
If
You
Don't
Mind
Me
Asking
What
School
Might
This
Be
This
Would
Be
Santa
Monica
College
The
That's
Unfortunate
Yeah
The
Personal
Account
System
Is
Kind
Of
Funny
They
Assign
You
A
Password
Based
On
Your
Student
ID
Number
And
It
Doesn't
Change
For
The
Entire
Semester
There
Is
Nowhere
For
You
To
Change
It
You
Cannot
Change
It
Stuck
I
Can
One
Up
You
On
That
One
Because
I
Had
A
Password
Like
That
And
The
Password
Tooth
And
Nail
I
Was
Very
Familiar
With
The
Guy
Running
The
New
Brand
New
Online
Registration
Email
System
Thing
And
Just
It
Was
Really
Stupid
And
I
Fought
Them
Because
This
Is
The
Same
College
That
Was
Also
For
The
Longest
Time
Your
Student
ID
Which
Was
Your
Social
Security
Number
Was
Printed
On
Your
Encryption
On
Bank
Of
America
Platinum
Credit
Cards
Uses
What
The
Technicians
Call
A
Crawling
Encryption
Key
Which
Means
When
They
Were
Programming
The
Encryption
They
Were
Instructed
To
Do
So
The
Encryption
Key
For
The
Transfer
For
Whatever
It
Was
Is
Simply
Added
Plus
One
Each
Time
It
Simply
Adds
One
Digit
Each
Time
Yeah
That
Is
Kind
Of
As
Much
As
The
People
That
Were
Programming
It
Protested
The
Company
Insisted
Now
I'm
Sure
The
People
That
Were
In
Charge
Of
The
System
They
Were
Clueful
People
There
Thank
God
But
The
Head
Person
Who
Actually
Designed
It
Didn't
Actually
Make
Smart
Weren't
Smart
And
It
Was
Annoying
Well
It's
Just
A
Matter
Yeah
Well
I
Mean
It
Probably
Came
From
The
Same
Point
Of
Oh
Geez
For
The
Longest
Time
We
Use
This
Social
Security
Number
And
The
I
D
Why
Can't
We
Just
Do
The
System
Well
That's
All
Well
And
Good
Unless
Of
You
Want
To
Protect
The
Social
Security
Number
Of
The
People
That
Are
Paying
You
Good
Money
Tell
Me
About
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
It's
One
Of
Those
Odd
Encrypted
Via
GSM
If
The
Asterisk
Server
Would
Be
Able
To
Decrypt
It
Encrypted
Or
Encoded
Not
Encrypted
If
You
No
Asterisk
Can't
Do
It
But
If
You
Fire
That
Up
Into
Ethereum
I
Believe
That
Can
Do
That
Really
I
Seem
To
Recall
A
Presentation
At
Def
Con
12
Where
Somebody
Grabbed
A
Stream
Of
I
Think
It
Was
A
Net
To
Phone
Stream
And
Yeah
I
Believe
The
New
Version
Of
Ethereal
Can
Do
Something
Similar
To
That
And
There
Is
Also
Another
Program
Called
Cain
Enable
C
A
I
N
I
Believe
That
Will
I
I'm
Not
Sure
If
You
Can
Preload
Stuff
Into
It
But
I
Believe
I
I'm
Pretty
Sure
Can
Do
It
Live
The
FBI
May
Have
A
Place
For
You
No
I
Doubt
It
I
Doubt
It
Severely
Okay
The
Fourth
And
Final
Thing
I
Wanted
To
Talk
To
You
Guys
About
Was
That
Hacker
Voice
Radio
Right
Now
The
Group
In
The
UK
That
I'm
Involved
With
Has
Oh
Very
Nice
Yes
And
I
Was
Wondering
We
Already
Have
A
Ham
Radio
Relay
Station
That
Is
Willing
To
Relay
The
Signal
For
Us
Via
Telephone
And
I
Was
Actually
Wondering
If
You
Might
Be
Interested
In
Getting
In
On
That
Little
Conversation
Oh
Totally
Oh
Yeah
Definitely
I
I've
Never
Actually
Talked
To
The
Space
Station
I
I've
Talked
To
The
Mir
Space
Station
Back
When I
Was
Working
Satellites
With
My
Amateur
Radio
And
I
Think
The
International
Space
Station
Would
Be
Very
Interesting
Just
Sort of
Send us
An email
Offline
For
That
Oh
Yeah
Certainly
Will
Certainly
Will
And
Of
Course
If
We
Can't
Do
It
Live
On
The
Show
We
Can
Always
Do
A
Free
Recording
Yeah
That's
Pretty
Much
Our
Plan
Too
It
All
Depends
Of
When
The
Thing
Passes
Overhead
Of
Where
We
You
Know
Going
To
Be
Broadcasting
From
I
Remember
Working
Satellites
And
Downloading
Keplerian
Elements
From
NASA
And
Firing
Into
My
Program
And
Then
Because
I
Was
Running
A
386
Wait
15
Minutes
While
I
Crunched
All
The
Numbers
And
Getting
A
Nice
Little
Print
Out
Of
All
The
Overflights
In
The
In
The
channel
Right
Now
HBP
71605
Is
Saying
At
His
School
We
Use
That's
Almost
As
Bad
As
Having
Your
Password
Be
Password
I
Was
Actually
A
Couple
Weeks
Ago
I
Was
Watching
Clear
And
Present
Danger
I
Love
That
It
Is
A
Good
Movie
The
Book
Is
Much
Better
If
Anyone
Has
Ever
Actually
Liked
The
Movie
Read
The
Book
It
Just
Infinitely
Better
I
Was
Constantly
Chuckling
At
Their
Computer
System
And
How
They
Are
Doing
All
The
Password
Reversed
And
This
Guy
Was
Running
These
Special
Programs
To
Brute
Force
Passwords
I
Was
Like
Wow
Yeah
To
Brute
Force
The
Password
Of
The
Colombian
Drug
Lord
Birthday
Backwards
Birthday
Forward
Birthday
Mother
Son
And
Daughter
Wow
Really
The
Funniest
Part
Is
That
Often
times
Works
It
Does
Work
I
Gave
Prompts
For
That
But
At
The
Same
Point
It
Was
Kind of
Humorous
Watching
This
Guy
Do
It
Iron
Geek
Is
Reporting
At
The
Channel
That
NT
2000
XP
Can
Cast
Credentials
In
Case
It
Can't
Get
To
The
Network
Then
You
Can
Brute
Force
Those
Hashes
And
Get
Someone's
Social
Security
Never
Password
Oh
Yes
That's
A
Major
Problem
You
Have
I
Always
Disable
That
On
My
Laptop
If
You
Have
A
Cache
If
You
For
Example
Say
For
Example
You're
Part
Of
A
Domain
System
And
You
Log
You're
Plugged
Into
The
Network
And
You're
Logged
Into
Your
Domain
And
Then
If
You
Log
Out
And
Take
The
Laptop
With
You
I
Can
You
Can
Then
Log
In
With
Your
Domain
Password
And
It
Will
Remember
It
So
It's
Cached
Somewhere
On
The
System
And
There
Are
Programs
That
Will
Attack
That
And
That's
Always
Really
Handy
Because
That's
Actually
Come in
Handy
For
Me
A
Couple
Times
Because
This
Actually
Isn't
Just
Did
You
Just
Say
Specifically
Laptops
Because
For
Example
I
Had
A
Server
And
My
Domain
Got
Blown
Away
And
It
Was
An
Official
Blow
Away
It
Was
You
Merged
Over
To
Another
Domain
System
Dependent
It
Exactly
What
It
Is
And
So
I
Had
To
They
Needed
A
File
Off
Our
Old
File
Server
That
Was
Still
Configured
For
The
Old
Domain
And
The
IT
Department
Could
Not
Remember
The
Domain
For
The
Admin
Password
So
Yeah
I
Showed
Up
I
Cracked
My
Knuckles
And
I
Just
Logged
In
Under
My
User
Account
And
Said
Here
You
Go
And
People
Started
Giving
You
Funny
Looks
Exactly
They
Like
How
Did
You
Do
That
I
Was
Like
Skills
How
Did
You
Do
That
Well
That's
Why
I
Paid
The
Big
Bucks
Or
No
That's
Why
I
Should
Be
Paid
The
I
I'm
Just
A
Lowly
Developer
So
I
Can't
Do
Anything
Right
Owned
Baby
Yeah
But
You're
Saving
Their
Asses
Exactly
Well
They
Don't
Like
That
I'm
Sure
They
Don't
But
I'm
Sure
Whoever
Needed
That
To
Get
Done
Took
Note
Or
At
I
Hope
It
Did
Either
That
Or
Somebody
Else
Took
Credit
For
It
Yeah
Probably
That's
What
Happened
Where
They
Just
Made
That
Tossed
In
The
Memory
Hole
And
Didn't
Know
That
Nothing
Personal
But
Strong
Do
We
Have
Any
Other
People
In
The
Queue
No
Nothing
Personal
at
All
I
Think
We
Had
Someone
On
Let
Double
Check
Hold
On
Do
We
Have
Any
More
Questions
For
Us
Are
You
Going
To
Continue
With
The
Live
Format
I
Think
We're
Going
To
Continue
It's
Not
Going
To
Be
An
Every
Week
Thing
But
I
Think
If
This
Actually
Works
Out
Once
Or
Twice
A
Month
Wouldn't
Be
Too
Bad
About
It
It's
Just
The
Hard
Part
With
This
Is
That
It
Has
To
Be
Scheduled
Exactly
Between
9
But
I
Foresee
This
Happening
A
Little
More
Often
Of
Course
Considering
That
We
Never
Did
It
Before
I
Would
Be
Any
Time
More
Often
Yeah
It
Looks
Like
I
Can't
Pull
The
Next
Caller
Until
We
Hang
Up
On
This
Guy
All
Right
Well
Pleasure
Talking
To
You
Thank
You
For
Being
Our
First
Caller
I
Completely
Forgot
Your
Handle
So
I
Well
Thank
You
Very
Much
Ionix
For
Calling
In
Thank
You
For
Being
Our
First
Caller
And
Goodbye
Any
Shouts
Out
Ionix
Hello
I
Think
He
Left
He
Might
Thank
You
Thank
Ionix
Yeah
Thank
You
Ionix
For
Those
Of
You
Who
Are
Still
Listening
And
You
Still
Want
To
Call
In
Again
The
Number
To
Call
Is
800
7
3
2
0
4
2
Or
2
1
3
4
1
5
1
0
4
7
Do
We
Actually
Have
Anything
Fun
To
Spay
With
The
Name
Like
You
Know
Could
Get
Lucky
On
Here
Saying
Like
You
Know
2
1
2
400
Slig
I
Don't
Think
We
Can
Do
That
Let
Me
See
If
We
Got
Anyone
Else
Yeah
We're
Having
Dead
Ear
So
I'm
Just
Gonna
Chat
About
Something
Yeah
So
Whistle
Internet
It's
A
Really
Nice
Little
Thing
And
I
Think
My
Other
Story
Is
Today
Is
I
Had
A
I
Went
To
A
Wedding
Thing
With
The
Fiance
And
It
Was
A
Very
Old
Building
And
It
Built
Around
1940s
And
I
Was
Walking
Around
In
One
Of
The
Back
Rooms
One
Of
The
Hallways
That
Is
In
The
Back
And
I
Was
Looking
Around
And
All of
A
Suddenly
We
Enjoyed
And
My
So
Yes
Dead
Air
Thank you
Strom
For
Saying
That
In
The
Channel
At
Least
I'm
Saying
Something
You're
Just
Sitting
There
Doing
Nothing
So
It
Was
Quite
Amazing
That
These
Phones
That
Were
Probably
There
Since
About
I
Would
Say
Early
50s
Late
40s
Probably
Not
Late
40s
I
Think
50s
Should
Be
A
Thing
It's
Just
Been
Sitting
There
Since
And
It's
Actually
Kind
Of
Very
Depressing
To
Know
That
They've
Been
Just
Sitting
There
And
Doing
Nothing
Probably
For
About
20
Years
We've
Got
Another
Caller
Sure
Okay
This
Is
Living
Dead
Let
Me
Bring
Them
On
In
Hold
On
Hello
Living
Dead
Yeah
You're
On
Welcome
To
Vinrav
Radio
You
Are
Calling
Number
Two
Yay
I
Just
Wanted
To
Clear
Up
The
Gentoo's
Portage
And
Everything
Their
Stable
System
And
Their
Unstable
System
Is
Managed
By
A
Thing
Called
Masking
Which
Basically
Ignores
The
Unstable
Packages
And
You
Can
Select
An
Option
Using
Accept
Keywords
I
Think
Underscore
Keywords
And
Then
You
Can
Select
Whatever
Processor
Type
You
Have
AMD
64
PPC
Or
SA6
Various
Other
Types
And
You
Can
Actually
Install
The
Unsupported
Unstable
Packages
To
Be
There
Or
You
Can
Go
A
To
The
Stable
Which
Is
Usually
The
Newest
Or
Whatever
They've
Added
Because
It's
Mostly
Kept
Up
By
The
Community
And
Basically
You
Just
You
Can
Go
With
Unstable
Packages
If
You
Want
Or
You
Can
Use
The
Ones
That
Are
There
And
Called
Stable
Which
Are
Normally
The
Newest
Ones
That
Are
There
In
The
System
In
The
Tree
Well
Yeah
That's
True
It
Is
But
What
Is
The
More
Of
The
What
Is
More
Of
The
Chances
That
Something
Would
Be
Broken
As
In
Stable
Versus
Unstable
I
Mean
It
Can
Happen
Anywhere
I
Mean
What
Kind
Of
Testing
Happens
Into
It
In
My
Case
I
Haven't
Had
Many
Problems
With
The
Stable
Packages
Except
For
My
AMD
64
Which
I
Had
A
Hard
Time
Getting
The
NVIDIA
Kernel
Module
Working
On
There
But
I
Think
That's
More
Of
My
64
Bit
And
My
Bad
Motherboard
Than
Anything
Else
But
As
Far
As
I've
Had
Problems
I
Haven't
Had
Much
With
The
Stable
Packages
And
Even
With
The
Unstable
Ones
And
Certain
Things
Are
Masked
Because
Of
Certain
Reasons
Like
They're
Not
All
Unstable
Some
Have
Known
Security
Flaws
In
Them
Such
As
Vulnerabilities
And
They'll
Mask
Those
So
You
Won't
Install
Something
That's
Known
To
Be
Vulnerable
So
Wait
They
Actually
Have
Packages
In
The
Source
Tree
With
Known
Vulnerabilities
They
Have
Them
But
They
Are
Made
So
You
Can't
Emerge
Them
Which
Is
Like
It
Says
App
Get
Install
You
Emerge
And
They
Keep
Them
In
There
So
You
Can
Install
Them
If
You
Want
To
But
You
Need
To
Physically
Go
In
And
Allow
Yourself
To
Install
It
Won't
Let
You
Do
It
Until
You
Change
The
Config
File
Or
Do
It
From
The
Command
Line
To
Let
You
That's
Just
Silly
They
Do
Binaries
In
The
Port
Tree
Oh
They
Do
I
Actually
Didn't
Know
That
But
Anyway
Why
Would
Anyone
Want
To
Go
Anywhere
Else
But
Debian
Because
People
Who
Run
Debian
Are
Just
Uber
Cool
Like
Hey
That
Makes
Me
Uber
Cool
Oh
My
God
Debian
Or
Ubuntu
That's
Where
It's
That
Yeah
I'm
A
Bigot
Wow
Looks
Like
We
Have
Two
People
In
The
Cue
Now
Oh
My
God
So
I
Guess
That's
It
Unless
You
Have
More
Questions
About
It
I
Think
A
Gen
Two
Episode
Might
Be
Upcoming
And
We
Are
Looking
For
Comments
On
Gen
Two
And
As
Much
As
Just
He
Might
Not
Like
To
Talk
About
It
Gen
Two
Is
Here
And
Lots
Of
People
Use
It
So
We
Do
Talk
About
It
Every
Episode
He
Is
Ranting
And
Raving
In
And
What
Was
The
Other
Thing
He
Said
We
Need
To
Mention
To
Make
A
Complete
Episode
iPods
And
VoIP
There
We
Go
Yeah
Dude
We're
Okay
We're
On
VoIP
I've
Had
So
Many
Problems
With
Mine
All
Right
Should
We
Take
The
Next
Call
Yes
All
Right
Thank
You
Live
And
Dead
For
Calling
In
Thank
You
Thank
You
For
Being
Caller
Number
Two
If
You
Called
Earlier
You
Could
Rock
Sweet
Okay
We'll
Talk
To
You
Later
Living
Dead
Thanks
For
Calling
Thank
You
For
Calling
Just
Bring
The
Next
Person
Right
Into
The
Conference
And
We'll
Just
See
What
It
Is
Okay
Just
A
Second
And
We're
Just
Sort
Of
Killing
Here
Dead
Air
This
Would
Be
Handy
If
We
Had
A
Guest
Here
But
Like
I
Said
We
Didn't
Know
When
Exactly
This
Was
Going
To
Work
Or
If
Seat
Of
Our
Pants
Here
And
There's
Still
Nothing
Going
On
Look
At
That
Let's
Tell
You
What
Stank
Says
Rich
People
Piss
Me
Off
And
We
Have
Low
Tech
Mystic
Here
Low
Tech
How
You
Doing
How
You
Doing
Low
Tech
Hey
Doing
Good
How
Are
You
Guys
Doing
Pretty
Good
Cool
What
Kind
Of
Fun
Exciting
Things
Do
Have
For
Us
This
Evening
Not
A Whole
Lot
I
Went
To
Freak
Nick
And
Had
A
Good
Time
Oh
How
Was
Freak
Nick
I
Completely
Forgot
What
Happened
This
Weekend
Because
I
Was
Busy
With
Other
Things
Well
Due
To
Lots
Of
Alcohol
I
Kind
Of
Forgot
A
Lot
Too
It
Was
A
Very
Good
Time
You
Guys
Should
Have
Come
Down
We
Missed
You
I
Only
Really
Allowed
One
Convention
Per
Year
So
Plus
This
Was
Actually
I
Had
Something
Up
This
Weekend
So
I
Couldn't
Come
On
Anyway
Yeah
Freak Nick
Kind
Crept
Up
On
Me
Unexpectedly
Next
Year
I
Will
Make
An
Attempt
To
Go
Though
So
You
Are
Thinking
About
Going
To
Defcon
Hope
And
Freak Nick
Possibly
That's
Fun
Having
Disposable
Income
Well
No
See
The
Problem
Is
I
Just
Figured
It
Wasn't
Worth
The
Effort
And
Expense
At
This
Point
So
Tell us
What
Happened
At
Freak Nick
Lots
Of
Good
Stuff
There
Were
Several
Good
Presentations
Jason
Scott
Did
The
BBS
Drinking
Game
That
Was
Good
Fun
There
Was
A
Dude
That
Had
The
Tesla
Coil
Set
Up
In
His
Hotel
Room
And
Was
Frying
CDs
It
Was
Very
Fun
A
Tesla
Coil
In
Your
Hotel
Room
Just
Sounds
So
Dangerous
A
Tesla
Coil
Indoors
Sounds
Dangerous
For
Those
Of
You
Who
Have
Never
Seen
A
Tesla
Coil
Just
Picture
This
Giant
Sort
Of
Cone
Shape
Thing
With
Giant
Sparks
Falling
Off
The
Top
And
They're
Huge
Yeah
Just
Kill
Every
TV
On
The
Hotel
Floor
Yeah
Exactly
And
It's
A
Huge
EM
Pulse
So
What
Pray
Tell
Was
The
BBS
Drinking
Game
They
Put
In
The
Hacker
One
And
They
Had
A
Fast
Track
And
A
Slow
Track
The
Fast
Track
Was
To
Take
A
Drink
Every
Time
Somebody
Said
The
Word
Hacker
And
I
Don't
Remember
What
The
Slow
Track
Was
But
Drink
Every
Time
Someone
Said
Cracker
Hacker
No
Slow
Track
So
Apparently
Because
You
Didn't
Remember
What
The
Slow
Track
Was
You
Were
On
The
Fast
Track
Yes
That
Is
Correct
And
How
Long
Did
You
Last
About
Oh
20
Minutes
Not
That
Where
Two
Three
Minutes
It
Was
It
Was
Very
Fast
Holy
Grap
You're
A
Lightweight
I am
Yes
I'm
A
Very
Lightweight
So
Did
You
See
Any
Good
Presentations
Very
Good
Presentations
I
Think
One
Of
The
On
The
Stood
Out
The
Most
In
My
Mind
Was
The
One
On
A
Croquet
It
Was
In
My
Mind
It
Was
Like
A
Cross
Between
Your
Desktop
And
MMO
It
Was
Very
Weird
I
Don't
Know
A
Lot
About
It
But
What
Exactly
Is
An
MMO
Multiple
Massive
Online
Like
Ever
Quest
World
Of
Warcraft
And
MMO
RPD
Yeah
See
That's
The
Thing
I
Don't
Understand
About
Hacker
Conventions
You
Go
There
And
You
Play
Computer
Games
You
Can
Do
That
At
Home
Well
At
The
Same
Point
It
Was
Sort
Like
Back
When
I
Was
At
College
In
Freshman
Dorms
And
Quake
2
Just
Came
Out
My
Friends
And
I
Would
All
Play
Quake
2
On
The
Land
And
Then
We'd
All
Go
Into
One
Person's
Room
And
Just
Talk
Trash
Oh
Man
You
Suck
I
Totally
Nailed
You
In
That
Stuff
Um
Who
Just
Three
Way
In
I
Don't
Know
Oh
God
Okay
Hello
There
We go
Our
Bug
Hopefully
We
Just
Got
That
Out of
The
Way
That
That's
Weird
The
Server
Did
That
All
On
Its
Own
That
Was
Strong
Yeah
You're
Still
Here
Alright
Yeah
That
Was
Strong's
Hold
Music
For
Anyone
Who
Cared
That
Is
Music
On
Hold
By
Evan
Borbell
I
Was
Wondering
What
That
Was
Am
Actually
On
Now
Yeah
You're
Still
On
This
Is
Iron
Geek
Oh
Hey
There
Oh
Here's
What
Happened
Oh
Low
Tech
Actually
Fell
Off
That
What
Happened
Low
Tech
Must
Have
Hung
Up
And
Then
The
Music
On
Hold
Came
On
For
A
Second
And
Then
Iron
Geek
Is
Here
Now
Okay
Oh
That's
Interesting
Yeah
I'd
Forgotten
That
Part
Of
How
The
Cues
Work
Yeah
Well
I
Don't
Play
With
Cues
So
Iron
Geek
What's
Going
On
Not
A
Whole
Lot
Not
A
Whole
Lot
At
All
I
Just
Phoned
In
To
Sing
The
Praises
Of
Cain
Enable
One
Of
The
Few
Reasons
That
The
Average
Linux
Geek
Might
Want
To
Have
Windows
On
A
Spare
Partition
As
Far
As
Free
Tools
Are
Concerned
Out
There
Most
Everything
That
You
Want
To
Use
Is
For
One
Of
The
Unix
Like
Operating
Systems
Linux
Free
BSD
Most
Of
The
Good
Security
Package
Pen
Testing
Tools
But
Cain
In
Of
It
Is
Probably
The
Best
Free
Tool
Out
There
For
Windows
As
Far
As
All
The
Things
It
Encompasses
In
One
Tool
Unfortunately
It's
Not
Open
Source
But
They
Do
Provide
It
For
Free
And
They
Keep
Updating
With
Newer
Functions
As
Time
Goes
By
That
Did
Piss
Me
Off
That
It
Wasn't
Open
Source
But
Oh
Well
What
You
Going
To
Do
It
Is
Free
As
Beer
Though
So
I
Guess
I
Can
Well
One
Thing
On
That
Is
They
Might
Do
Something
Along
The
Lines
Of
Like
What
When
Fingerprint
Is
Doing
Now
And
Making
The
Open
Source
Branch
Kind
Of
Go
Away
It
Seems
And
Make
A
Closed
Source
Branch
They
Trying
To
Make
Commercial
I
Don't
Know
That
It
Drives
Me
Nuts
When
People
Do
That
Personally
Drives
Me
When
They
Take
An
Open
Source
Program
Move
It
Over
To
Closed
That
Is
Okay
Your
Show
But
Kane
Have
You
Used
Kane
Much
Before
I
Fiddle
With
It
I
Actually
Now
That
I
Moved
My
New
Computer
I
Don't
Have
It
Installed
Anymore
But
I
Wrote
Myself
A
Note
When
I
Brought
It
Up
Saying
Hey
That
Added
To
My
List
Of
Programs
You
Need
To
Install
Yeah
I
Have
Got
A
Windows
Box
Here
I
Should
Play
With
It
Well
It
Does
All
Sorts
Of
Odds
And
Ends
For
instance
It
Will
Copy
A
Sand
System
File
Off
A
Windows
Box
It
Will
Do
The
Same
Thing
Sand
Inside
Will
And
Allow
You
To
Crack
It
May
Not
Be
As
Fast
As
Loft
Crack
But
It
Is
Free
Also
You
Can
Use
It
For
Spoofing
Between
Two
Machines
Connect
Packets
It
Will
Also
Apparently
I
Haven't
Really
Tested
This
Out
It
Claims
It
Will
Be
Able
To
Up
Spoof
Between
Two
Machines
Using
Remote
Desktop
Protocol
Like
Connecting
To
A
Terminal
Server
Or
Windows
XP
Box
Running
Remote
Desktop
And
Transparently
What it
Does
Is
Proxies
The
Connection
It
Hands
It
Man
In
The
Middle
Attack
Yes
The
Man
In
Middle
Attack
And
Apparently
Remote
Desktop
Protocol
Unlike
Other
Protocols
Like
SSL
And
Secure
Shell
It
Doesn't
Actually
Verify
The
Person
You're
Talking
To
Is
Who
You're
Talking
To
So
The
Person
Doesn't
Even
Get
A
Warning
Message
Windows
I
Love
Windows
And
It
Has
Crackers
For
All
Sorts
Of
Different
Hashes
You
Can
Sniff
With
Network
Not
To
Mention
Recognizing
All
Sorts
Of
Plain
Text
Protocols
It
Got
Things
Built
In
Reversible
Ciphers
That
Are
Basically
Just
Obfuscation
Like
ROT13
Or
Let's
Say
Whatever
VNC
Uses
For
It
Storing
Of
Passwords
In
The
Registry
Or
In
That
Config
File
They
Put
On
Linux
Boxes
It
Has
Done
For
Reversing
That
It
Has
So
Many
Different
Tools
And
I
Add to
It
All
The
Time
They
Even
Have
A
Voice
Over
IP
Sniffer
That
Will
Depending
On
What
Codex
Are
Used
Toss
Out
What's
Going
Across
The
Line
And
Make
A
WAV
File
For
You
To
Listen
To
Since
You
Brought
That
Up
Do
You
Know
If
They
Support
EX
Protocol
Which
Is
Interastrix
Exchange
Honestly
I
Do
Not
Know
They
Do
Support
SIP
And
They
Support
A
Bunch
Of
Codex
For
That
But
As
For
The
EX
Protocol
You
Can
See
There
A
Call
Going
On
But
I
Believe
Right
Now
Unless
I
Could
Be
Wrong
This
Actually
The
Last
Time
I
Checked
Was
A
Few
Months
Ago
Right
Before
DEFCON
That
EX
Right
Now
Theoretically
Is
Unsufferable
By
Public
Known
Utilities
As
Far
As
I
Know
Of
Course
That
Could
Have
Changed
And
I
Could
Have
Been
Wrong
Back
Then
Too
But
To
The
Truth
I
Am
Not
A
Phone
Guy
We
Were
Using
I
,
I
Was
Testing
I
Know
I
Could
Sniff
Those
Phones
But
I
Not
Sure
What
Codec
And
Particular
Protocol
They
Use
There
Is
Some
Kind
Of
Nortel
Phone
IP
Phone
But
I
Not
Sure
What
All
Voice
Over
IP
Can
Is
Capable
Of
Doing
At
This
Point
I
Know
There
Are
A
Few
Protocols
That
Won't
Do
Because
They
Commercial
Codex
And
Since
It
A
It picks up SIP fine.
When I was using my Cisco phone, it picked up.
It told me what number I was dialing,
and it actually kind of really freaked me out when I figured that out
because when I did it, I wasn't actually paying attention to it,
and then I saw, oh, this person dialed 3-1-1-5-5-2-3-6-8,
and I was like, ooh, yeah, that's the number I dialed, isn't it?
I completely forgot I was running in the background,
and I just owned myself.
Well, as long as it's just you seeing the information.
Sometimes I'll run a sniffer while I'm web surfing around
just to see whether or not anything I'm doing is actually crossing the network
and isn't encrypted.
You'd be surprised the number of people at Freaknik
that were using insecure protocols that you could easily pick up using other tools.
I do have one complaint about Cain.
They say that you can read a PCAP file.
So let's say you walk from someplace with your PDA.
You have it loaded with Linux.
You do a big lib PCAP dump so you can parse it later on.
Well, I've never successfully gotten Cain to load one of those dumps
and actually be able to pass out plaintext passwords.
However, the same dump, something like dsniff or EtherCAP have no problems with.
According to Tom on the IRC channel, Cain can also remove scratches from your iPod.
Wow.
Is there nothing you can't do?
You can't do?
Yeah.
Actually, I just do my dishes.
That's the best.
I've currently fallen off IRC.
See, look at that.
I'm having horrible networking troubles tonight.
Oh, dear, yeah.
Cisco phone goes down.
IRC goes down.
IRC's actually blinking on all and off all day.
Yeah, well, it's all in that.
It goes down more than a dime store hooker.
So, Cain and Abel, that's what it is.
That's pretty much all I've really called him to say,
just sing the praises of Cain and the team that creates it.
All right.
Well, do you have shouts out?
I think we tried to do this to the first person,
and other than that, we actually didn't do anything.
Shouts to my buddies in Lux, Corey and Flying Penguin,
and to everybody I met at Freaknik this year.
How was Freaknik since I guess I have not?
Freaknik was good.
It kind of turned it into, at night, a giant party.
The lectures were pretty good.
My understanding the lectures aren't considered, like,
they don't have as many tracks as, say, a place like Descon does.
But the nice thing about them is they provide all the videos for free online later on.
Matter of fact, I think somewhere in the forums,
I want to say Fizone posted a link to it.
They've already put up some of the videos from the talks.
And also, it's only $20.
And if you're like a hacker from the Midwest, the South,
it's kind of expensive to go someplace like New York or Hope or out to Las Vegas for Descon.
So Freaknik kind of fills a niche.
Indeed.
That's what I always figured it is.
And I'd actually consider it going down,
because it seems like it's just a very, I don't know what you would call it,
just a very low-intensity convention, either like Hope or Descon.
But not this year and probably not next.
Here's a question.
Napster San actually asked,
does Kane and Abel work online?
I did some playing with that once, and I couldn't get it to work.
But then again, I'm no expert on configuring RINE.
So that doesn't mean someone else can't.
And if someone can, please print out a tutorial for me,
because in that case, I wouldn't even have to boot Windows for it.
Yeah, that would be pretty cool.
It'd actually be cool if they just ported it over to Linux.
Of course, you really can't deal with some of the stuff
that you can automatically do on Windows over on Linux.
Some things, but I mean, it uses WinPCAT for its sniffing.
So I imagine programming for WinPCAT has to be somewhat similar for LibPCAT,
but I've never actually done it, so I don't know for sure.
True, true.
So Strom says the queue is empty, so call on in.
Yes, again, the number, if you're just joining us, 800-732-0442,
or if you're listening from outside the U.S.,
the number is area code 213-415-1047.
Country code 1.
Yes, country code 1.
Check your directory for instructions on dialing the United States.
Good luck with the rest of the show, guys.
Hey, thanks, man.
Talk to you later.
Thank you for coming in.
Thanks for calling in.
Bye-bye.
Yeah, no whole music, so that's always cool.
So this actually is working out pretty well.
We're going on an hour here,
and I like to say that this sure beats the pants off off the hook.
What do they do, like 15 minutes for phone calls?
I don't know.
And like half of them are from Rebel?
Hey, there's someone in the queue.
Let's see who it is.
So, Stank, what have you been doing?
Just organizing, you know, timing and getting together
for that naked Jell-O wrestling stuff
that Black Ratchet and I were going to try to do.
Oh, was that not for the air?
Yeah, I'm sort of having way too much fun with this.
Whatever it is.
These bunch of sound clips that people have sent in,
we have another caller.
Yeah, we do.
It's someone named Dothman.
Let me bring him into the call.
Hold on just a second.
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
Do we do, like, some generic happening music
while these things are happening?
All right.
Hello, Dothman.
Welcome to BinRev Radio.
Hi.
It's great to be here.
How are you guys doing?
Doing well.
How are you doing, man?
Oh, I'm doing great.
Just got back from Freak Nick.
Oh, cool.
Everyone went to Freak Nick to CG's.
Oh, wow.
Well, you're not on the IRC channel, are you?
No, I'm not.
Sorry.
Oh, cool, cool.
So it's someone actually who heard the number on the show
and is calling us.
This is awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was real lucky that I even noticed
that you were on live tonight.
I'm usually so busy.
I don't even have time to check out, you know,
what time is life running live.
So that was real great.
Well, I never used to listen to it live.
I was just, like, popping on my iPod.
Hey, uh...
Pardon me.
Let me get this out there.
The iPod will be updated probably by tomorrow, I hope.
I just have to re-edit everything back in
and work it out that way.
Mm-hmm.
So it will be slightly delayed.
Uh-huh.
So, sorry.
Dossman, go right ahead.
Um, Ratchet?
Yeah.
Uh, just wanted to say, uh, I really enjoyed your twat.
Oh!
Oh, baby!
For those that might not know, uh, uh,
Droops, uh, has been doing this thing called Twat Radio,
uh, another podcast or radio program,
whatever you want to call it.
And, uh, anyone that wants to go in
that, uh, wants to do a little, uh,
short little segment on that's welcome to do that.
So, that was, uh, I really enjoyed your program,
your little segment you did.
Uh, I'm not really a programmer myself,
but I enjoy, uh, uh, what you talked about.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, so, um...
Uh, I believe the, uh, URL is twatech.org
and it's a website.
Oh.
Thanks.
Yeah, I didn't even think to say that.
Yeah.
It, it, it, it, it, it's a fun show.
It's, uh, it, it's daily content.
So, it's, it's cool.
And what they just do is they just sort of mix up the, uh,
uh, whatever it is, the, the host up every day.
And everyone does their own cybershopptic.
And I, I, last Wednesday, I think it was,
I, I did something on the glory of C-sharp.
And I actually, uh, have another link to give out.
It's probably a lot of dudes.
I'll just sort of do it tonight.
I just had to find it as a, uh, follow-up to that.
But anyway.
Yes.
Troops is doing a good job with it.
And it actually hasn't been updated, I believe,
in the past couple of days,
because Troops has been at Feetnik,
just apparently like everyone else on the planet except me.
No, no, I didn't go either.
So, everyone else on the planet except for the two of us.
Yes.
So, uh, first time I'd ever been, uh, to Feetnik.
So, it was a very enjoyable time.
Have you been to Feetnik and DEFCON?
Ah.
Have you been, have you been to both?
Oh, no, no.
Oh, okay.
I was going to ask you how the two compared.
Yeah, in fact, actually, this is only the second con I've been to.
I went to NataCon this year, uh, up in Cleveland.
So, they were, uh, pretty different events,
but, uh, both extremely enjoyable
and, uh, really just enjoyed meeting, uh,
all the different people, uh, people I've seen online and stuff.
So, so I'm kind of new to the con experience.
Uh, getting to meet people, you know,
just as handles and stuff, I think that's probably,
for a lot of people, that's the biggest thing, you know.
Uh, uh, oh, that's, uh, Iron Geek and, uh,
oh, that's Dr. Zygman and all that good stuff, so.
Yeah, the thing I always find amusing about con
is the fact that you are referring to real flesh-and-blood people
by their handles in person.
Yeah.
It's just so weird, you know.
I mean, I guess you get used to it at the 2600 meetings,
but, you know, you go to DEFCON.
I remember, I, when I, when I first went to my first DEFCON,
which was DEFCON 11, I, you know,
I hadn't really hung out in the scene much,
and it was just so weird to, to, you know,
talk to everybody and say, oh, oh, hi, oh, okay,
so, so you're weirdo dude and, and, and you're fractal boy.
Okay, hi.
Yeah, definitely.
Dude, my, my IRC is just freaking out right now.
Yeah, I can see you bouncing in and out of the channel.
Yeah, and then, like, it's, like, connected twice,
and it's failing out one thing and doing the other.
Yeah, but I, I fully agree with that.
It's actually kind of weird, uh, calling people by their real names for me.
It's, like, I, I know your real name, but I always call you Strom.
Yeah, and I always call you Ratchet.
Mm-hmm.
Except when I slip up and.
Slip up in front of, like, the entire presentation.
Yeah.
I wonder.
Oh, God, that was embarrassing.
But it was funny.
I gotta tell you, it was pretty funny.
Yeah.
Uh, um, the only thing I really had was I was kind of disappointed that, uh,
I, I brought an AS400 with me for people to play on,
and, uh, I, uh, set up a little table for selling DVDs of our show,
the pack of sniffers and T-shirts and stuff,
and set up an AS400 for people to play on and had commands
and a couple terminals and stuff,
but only four people even sat down and tried to log in.
I even gave them, uh, the account Freak Nick and a password and stuff
and a bunch of commands.
So, uh, shame on them.
But, uh, I did give out two DVDs to folks because, uh, one guy,
he was able to change the password and, uh, change the, uh, profile handle,
so, or the profile, uh, description.
So, that was something anyway.
I was, I was just glad that they, uh, sat down and tried and had some fun.
And brought back, you know, a lot of people,
some people would stop by and just talk about memories of working on the,
as an operator on an AS400 and stuff.
So, it was, uh, enjoyable.
And, and, I mean, it's always kind of disappointing when people,
you set up a computer for people and they don't use it.
I mean, come on, people, you're, you're hackers.
You, you, you, you need to do this.
Exactly.
It's one of those things.
Yeah.
But, oh, well.
And I, uh, raffled off, uh, a Toshiba T1000 8088 laptop.
Oh, nice.
DOS 2.11 in ROM.
Oh, that's, that's, that stuff's weak.
The other raffle prize was a token ring fun pack, as I called it.
At Mayport Mal, about nine or ten adapter cards for any platform you could ever want to connect.
Cables, an IBM token ring testing kit, everything he needed to get in with that.
The same guy ended up winning both prizes, and he was like the very last person to buy tickets.
Oh, my God.
I was looking at something, and it was like a SourceFord project.
And the guy was talking about, oh, you can get these touchscreen consoles for like $15.
And they're like, you know, $46, and they're just monochrome.
And the way you network them is either by serial or token ring.
And I was like, oh, man, token ring.
Because I actually am one of the few people who used token ring in my lifetime.
I personally converted a network from token ring to Ethernet, and I never want to ever do that again.
This reminds me, for some reason, of a story about the time someone convinced people at the office
that the reason the network was failing was because the token kept falling out of the token ring.
That joke has so old it has dust on it.
Yes, but no one has told the joke in like five years.
Cool, true, cool.
True, true.
There's actually a question for you, Doss, man, in the channel.
Oh, really?
Yeah, Lin-Lin wants to know when the new packet sniffers will come out.
Oh, that's a very good question.
Well, you know, I really wish I could say it would be soon.
But due to circumstances outside of my control, it may be after Christmas or late January.
Zach's got a lot of stuff going on in his life, and he's just got to, he's basically rearranged a lot of stuff
and just doesn't have time for the time being.
I am working on some of the projects, though.
We've got a, I guess I'll let a little bit of the cat out of the bag as far as we've got a spoof that we're working on.
And I won't name names or anything, but hopefully it will be enjoyable.
We're going to maybe get that out before Christmas.
I don't know.
But we're still working on stuff, and it's just, unfortunately, it's just so time-consuming doing the show.
So it's, I can't say that I would expect it to be out before January.
But thanks for asking.
I really appreciate that.
Well, you do have a dedicated fan base, and I am one of them.
Well, thank you.
It's always great to hear that.
And I really appreciate the work you guys do on BINREV.
I've been trying to listen more and more of the radio show.
I've listened to a lot of them when Stank Dog was hosting.
And it's just a really, really good program.
Nice technical discussions to listen to when I'm at work and stuff.
So it's really cool.
Take the dick out of your mouth.
Maybe that will help.
Yeah, getting the show live was actually kind of more of a pain in the ass than I thought it would be.
Well, that's usually how things work.
Of course, it's computers.
Computers make everything difficult.
Yeah.
So do we have another caller in the queue?
It doesn't look like it.
It doesn't look like it?
Yeah.
Nothing personal there, Doss, man.
But no problem.
I want to make sure that we're getting to everybody who wants to get in.
Because it is starting to get about that time.
We only have about 20 minutes left in the show.
Yeah.
So if you want to ask us a question, call in on the very first live BINREV radio.
Give us a call.
The number, again, in case you don't have it, 800-732-0442.
Or if you're calling from outside the U.S., area code 213-415-1047.
And, of course, prefix that with however you have to dial to the United States.
That would be cool if we got an international caller.
Of course, the problem with this is I was talking to, I don't even know how to pronounce the name,
Ali, A-A-L-I.
He was in Britain, and he was complaining that the fact that with the fact that we're on Eastern time
and we stream from 9.30 or so, that's like 3 a.m. in Britain.
Or, sorry, 2 a.m.
Yeah.
And I could see that being a problem.
We could theoretically, you know, stream to somebody in Australia or get a call from Australia or Hong Kong or something.
True.
We had someone from Taiwan, so maybe they're listening live.
Yeah.
I doubt it, but you never know.
Well, the thing I really love about Indiana is right now your show started at 8.30, my time,
but if it had been earlier in the summer, it would have actually been 9.30
because Indiana doesn't go on daylight savings time right now.
Yes, yes, no, it doesn't because you're weird.
Isn't that just eastern Indiana?
It's all of Indiana.
There are a few counties on the south and the north, actually.
And actually they've just, the state legislature, decided that we are going to observe daylight savings time now.
Now they're just deciding which one we're going to observe or which one we're going to standardize.
Do-do-do-do-do decision.
Plus next year, or next year, or 2008, I forgot, we're going to expand daylight savings.
Oh, boy.
Well, I think that's the way to go, really.
But meet us, Arizona, Hawaii, and Alaska.
We've got it right.
No, I really like Daylight Time.
It makes the afternoons longer than I like the afternoons.
See, my problem with expanding Daylight Savings Time is that
now Daylight Savings is going to be longer than Standard.
So doesn't that make Daylight Standard now?
The thing I always find amusing, actually,
is the fact that people don't seem to know the difference
between Daylight Time and Standard Time when they're writing out times.
Like, I'll see something that happens during the summer.
Written out as, come join us at 10 o'clock Eastern Standard Time.
And I'm like, it's during the summer.
You're on Daylight Time.
Why are you giving the Standard Time?
No, let's see.
Just sort of bypass that and write E.T.
There we go.
Yeah, Eastern Standard Time.
Eastern Standard Time is not the time zone.
It's the offset from GMT.
It's negative five.
There we go.
Yes.
And Eastern Daylight Time is just a different offset.
So all you're doing is changing the offset.
That's not changing the name of the time zone.
Or the, yeah, or the time you're in.
If you give something an Eastern Standard Time,
different offset from Eastern Daylight Time.
So be careful when using EST and EDT.
And the same goes for the rest of the time zones.
And I think that concludes my EDT rant.
Dude, we should just use all UTC and just go like that.
Yeah.
That would be awesome, wouldn't it?
Just one time.
That would make it much easier.
Yeah.
Abstraction.
I mean, just, uh...
That would actually be cool, because I'd probably get up at a decent hour.
Yeah, exactly.
It's 12 o'clock in the afternoon morning.
Or...
I always like to work anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm going to have to kick Cheddar out of the channel.
We, uh...
He, he, he...
Actually, he...
He's knocking Oregon Trail.
That's...
That's punishable by death.
Oh my god, no.
Oregon Trail was awesome.
I mean, especially on Apple II.
That shit was wheat.
Yeah.
Like your own tombstone?
God, you can put all kinds of crazy words down there.
Here lies ass fucker.
I never actually did that, but I enjoyed the fact that I could.
Here lies cat sex, although that would be a bit of an accident.
Exactly, you could have that.
Alright, do we have anyone in the queue?
No, sadly, there is nobody in the queue right now.
Call in, everybody.
You're stuck with me.
We've got 30...
How many live listeners do we have now?
31 live listeners.
Oh, you can actually tell that?
I actually forgot how to figure that.
Well, no, GDBHackRadio, on the page, there's a little now playing thing, and apparently
I didn't set the ID3 text correctly, because it says now playing, blank, 31 listeners.
Oh, 31 listeners.
I feel touched.
Yeah, I feel really touched.
People within the sound of my voice, give a call right in.
Yes.
Give out the numbers just to get...
Again, get your pencil out, get your pen out, get whatever writing implement you have
out.
If you've got to get out a quill and an inkwell, do that.
The number, for those of you calling from within the U.S., and I think it might actually
work from Canada, too, is 800-732-0442.
And if you're calling from outside the U.S., figure out what the dialing code is for the
U.S., and then the number is area code 213-415-1047.
We need something cool.
We need, like, 1-800-5-BINREV or something.
That would be a sweet number.
Oh, feel free to get it.
Just, I really don't feel like paying for that.
Yeah.
Are you, Dossman, are you calling in the 800 number or the 213 number?
Uh, 800 number.
Oh, sweet.
Yeah, our 800 number is Astrolink.
So, um, it seems they've fixed their jitter problems.
Oh, actually, I'd just like to bring this out in the show.
I was shocked to find out that Asterisk has forked.
Yeah, Asterisk has forked.
There's now something called OpenPBX.
Which is an open, which is a more GPLE asterisk.
And I am running into a corundum of figuring out which version I should run.
I know if I run OpenPBX, I'm sure Mark Spencer will personally kill me to death.
True.
But I don't know Mark Spencer, so.
Yeah, but I do.
So, I think I've got to maintain the friendship by running his software.
It's a very interesting thing.
And to be completely honest with you, I don't completely disagree with OpenPBX's problems.
Mm-hmm.
But, uh, it is.
Oh, since apparently they've released this and you can talk about it now, because I didn't even know about this.
Tell us what's up with the whole 24 port.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, months and months and months ago, I was told to keep the secret, not tell a soul.
And, um, finally it's come out.
It's the Digium TDM 2400P, which is a 24 port analog line card.
And you can put on, uh, quad, little quad port modules, so either FXS or FXO.
So you can have 24, uh, telephone, 24 dial tones coming off of the thing.
Yeah.
A one PCI card.
How much is it going to cost, do you know?
I think he's, uh, Mark said sub-$2,000.
Sub-$2,000.
Which, I mean...
Tell me when it reaches about $200.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, when you consider the fact that it's, you know, you'll, you're going to end up paying about $100 each, uh, for each dial tone.
Regardless of what you buy.
I mean, if you buy...
It's freaking expensive, though.
Yeah.
Well, I guess if you buy, like, the, uh, some of the SIP adapters, you pay, like, maybe $40 a dial tone.
But those are SIP adapters.
Those aren't actually, um...
Hey, they don't support rotary dial.
What's the point of that?
Tom claims he's, speaking of forks, Tom claims he's going to fork BINREV radio with his Ratchet and Strom soundboard.
I, I actually, I, I actually do have, part of, part of, part of the Stank soundboard someone sent me, I don't even know which one sent me this, was the, uh, was the, uh, was the, uh, Black Ratchet soundboard.
Letter number two.
Which is, which is really creepy when you listen to, uh, listen to yourself talk.
Yeah, well, no, what was really creepy was when I was setting up DEF CON by phone, the creepy bit was, uh, getting phone calls from myself.
I mean, I knew they were coming, but it was still creepy to, to get a phone call and hear a recording of me on the other end.
Hello!
This is the DEF CON by phone.
This is the DEF CON by phone interactive schedule, calling to remind you that the talk you wanted to see, cat sex.
Starting at...
Do you see cat sex far too often?
Yes, I do, but it, it, it, it's a better meta word than just foo.
Foo is just so much better.
Yeah.
Foo the show.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, there was, uh, a couple of guys from Digium, uh, Freak Nick, giving out free swag and stuff.
Oh, sweet!
Uh, one guy, um, let's see, his name was Matt, uh, I don't want to say his last name because I don't know, he gave me his business card, but, uh, gave out, uh, Droops and myself, maybe some other people, this, um, what is this, uh, VoIP adapter, um,
uh, uh, S101i.
An Eeksy?
Yeah.
They gave you an Eeksy?
Yeah.
So, I haven't had a chance to play with that yet, but, uh, I'll be honest, I'm not all that hip on the VoIP stuff.
I don't actually have a subscription.
Please send it to me.
Yeah.
Uh, we'll figure out something to do with it here.
Seriously, I'm not saying, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll send you a check tonight for $50 if you mail it to me.
Wow.
$50 plus shipping.
That was, uh, really cool of them to, uh, hang out at my booth for a while and, uh, just hang, and give out some free shweig like that, so.
Yeah, I, I, I didn't even get one of those, and I, I pimped them up like no tomorrow at DEF CON.
I mean, what the hell?
Same.
I'm still in shock.
Okay, Doc, man.
Oh, oh, sorry, go ahead.
Uh, I was just, uh, hanging out with Matt, uh, at our booth, and then, uh, later on caught him, uh, on Sunday as we were leaving, and he, I was actually getting in my truck, and he came running across the parking lot, and was like, here, here, take one of these.
Damn, I want one of them.
Jeez.
All right, uh, Dossman, I think I'm going to bid you, we're going to bid you farewell, because it's about time to wrap up the show.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Yeah, we're an hour and 21 minutes in.
Mm-hmm.
If I could, uh.
So, thank you for hanging out with us.
I mean, just sort of faded out toward the end, and we just sort of gasped back.
But, hey, that's been Rev Radio.
That's live radio for you, because no one else called the hell in.
Mm-hmm.
Do you actually have anyone else in the queue?
Uh, no, there's no one in the queue.
All right, so call in is over now.
Sorry.
Yeah, tune in next week, and, uh, get your questions ready.
Well, we may not be doing it live next week.
Oh, you are not out.
Damn it.
There will be another live show coming up, just more of a question of when.
We will actually, now that we know everything works, we're going to pimp this out and figure it all out.
Mm-hmm.
So, tune in next week, it might be live.
Sweet.
Well, thank you very much.
Shout-out for anyone, Dossman?
Um, yeah, shout-outs to twattech.org, with one T in the middle.
And, uh, shout-outs to everyone I met at Freak Nick.
I won't name names, since there's more people than I could name.
Uh, and my friend and co-host, Zach, he's going through some rough times right now.
So, uh, just know that everyone loves you, and we'll be here for you whenever, uh, the light shows up at the end of the tunnel.
Indeed.
Amen.
Thank you very much.
Well, we'll talk to you later.
Thanks for calling in.
All right.
Bye-bye.
Looks like we've got, um, one more caller.
Uh, all right.
Go right ahead.
Okay.
You stupid fucking cunt.
Who said that?
Who is this?
And apparently he's, uh, talking to the person, despite what I told him not to.
Mm-hmm.
See, this is the problem.
We're going to have to get a third person on here so I can, uh, sort of stop the dead air between, uh, phone calls.
Yep.
Ha-ha.
This is fun.
Just sitting here, talking to myself.
The reason why I always got strong back in the show is because, so, I, I wouldn't just, if I couldn't find someone to talk to, I just wouldn't be like this the entire time.
I believe Droops did this with Info-monic, Info-monic, whatever it's called.
Info-monic-on.
Can you talk tonight?
Yeah.
Actually, considering the length of our closing music, I think we should wrap things up.
So, that was Blake Ops.
He just said hi, so.
All right.
Well, hi, Bake Ops.
Just call in next time and remember to call in.
Yep.
So, um, we have a couple of announcements.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, once again, we're going to reannounce.
Spin Rev Meeting, Southern California in the Victorville, Hesperia, Apple Valley area.
Uh, kless plus meeting at gmail.com.
K-A-H-L-E-S-S plus symbol meeting at gmail.com.
And then the next, uh, announcement.
Merck might be setting up the VinRev meeting in the 301-202 area code.
That's for Washington, D.C., 202.
And it's suburbs in Maryland, 301.
Email merck at twatech.org.
That's M-E-R-K, at symbol, T-W-A-T-E-C-H, dot org, for more information or if you want to help with the meeting.
Yeah, at symbol.
There's at symbols and email addresses now.
Also called the commercial A or the strudel symbol.
Yeah, whatever.
Shouts, who do you have shouts out for?
Um, shouts out to Mark Spencer, who actually had to give me a little help on setting all this stuff up.
Yeah.
Did he give you an eeksy?
Um, not yet.
And he sucks.
Yeah.
Sorry, Mark.
We didn't really mean that.
Um, shouts out to everyone who called in tonight.
Yeah, shout out to everyone who called in.
Yeah, you guys made the show tonight.
And really, we didn't have to do much work.
And I'm not sure how this episode is actually going to sound once I put it up.
But hey, Kurt, it was live.
It was our first live episode.
Yeah, a landmark episode in the history of BinRev Radio.
Yes.
Uh.
So, as always.
Yeah, email.
Email, as always, is RadioPinRev.com.
And you can leave us voicemail.
Actually, we did get a voicemail this week, but I didn't have time to get ready for the show.
So, we'll do that next week.
But our voicemail line, we'll, uh, I guess we'll make it the same numbers as our call-in line.
800-732-0442 or 213-415-1047 for the, uh, for calls outside the U.S.
Yeah, sure, why not?
Yeah, our closing music this week.
BlackRatchet.org.
Org.
I just had to play that.
All right.
And I'd like to apologize in advance to Stag, because I'm probably just sitting there going,
why the hell is he playing stuff with me in there?
Mm-hmm.
Um, side of the week is, uh, by Acidus.
It's a new program he released at Freaknik.
It's called TinyDisk.
And it is absolutely, it's really cool.
It's basically, it's a file system or a way to store files within tiny URLs.
And it's, it's, it's really neat.
And I'm fiddling around with it, and I'm playing around, and I'm trying to figure it out.
And trying to do some things onto Windows with it, because it's all in Java.
And I hate Java, and Java sucks.
And it's, uh, www.msblabs.org slash tinydisk.
And that's Mike Sierra Bravo, Lima, alphabravosierra.org.
TinyDisk, D-I-N-Y-D-I-S-K.
Our closing music this week is, uh, from epitonic.com.
It's called Heavenly by Scuba.
Nice, uh, mellow track.
I like it.
Mellow.
We're going to leave it out with Mellow.
Mellow.
Hey, it's been a cool, relaxed episode.
Nothing, uh, nothing.
Cool, relaxed episode, and let everyone just sort of sit back and relax after an exciting
live call-in episode.
Mm-hmm.
So.
As always, we will see you next week, live or not.
See you next week.
Same hack time.
Same hack channel.
Bye-bye.
Thank you.