This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll sue you on burning dreamcast
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ, leave your fight on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Serial phones
Source code
Good afternoon and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio episode number 124 for November 29th, 2005
I'm Estrom Carlson
I'm Black Ratchet
And we have Knot Theory this evening
Hey, what's up?
Back after a long hiatus
Yeah, you see, cause like
I could never contact you
Cause like you
The way I always figure this out is when I'm at work
I only have access to AIM at work
And you're never on AIM, you idiot
Yeah, yeah
I've switched
Maybe I shouldn't tell people
But I've switched to Google Talk
Just because
It's easier
I don't know
AIM, there's just lots of nonsense that goes on
But I don't like to deal with
Don't you use your own team?
No, well
No, okay
No, I don't get like Harry Potter ads
That come up and like
Pop up in my face
Like my co-workers do
But
But it's still like
You know, they add stuff to your buddy list
And all kinds
You know what?
AIM is good
Oh yeah, okay
I'll give you that
That pissed me off
Yeah
I mean, that was just a minor nuisance
But in general, like
I just don't like AIM
That's all
Crap
Now the sidekick's gonna have to get like
Cheat Talk support
Oh
Hey, did you see Hack TV 3?
Oh man
We might as well
Make this out right now
Hack TV 3
Has been released
It's up on the website
Zygmunt's poured long
And uh
Many efforts
And hours of skills
And labor
And blood, sweat, and tears
And even a hurricane
Couldn't stop him
And him being evacuated
For like a week
Up to Georgia
So
It's out
You can download it
Use the BitTorrents
I believe we have BitTorrents
I also think we have a mirror
On archive.org
So go use that
Go grab it
And then watch the
Do an improved opening sequence
With uh
Not Theory and Natus
And their
Wacky sidekick hijinks
Oh yeah
You actually get to see me
Accidentally drop my sidekick
Once
And it gets a little
Scratch on it
So
It's very funny
And you get to see
Yours truly
In the film
And me slamming the door
On Stankdog
Yeah
Am I in it at all?
I don't think so
I think you can see yourself
In the background
Ah yeah
I'm on there
Mentioned at the end
I think
Probably
Um actually
Since we're talking about
Natus
So we might as well
Mention that
He did get his
Xbox
Last week
He uh
Did wait in line
For ten hours
And he got his
Xbox
The next morning
At like 7am
When they opened
And uh
Then later that afternoon
He sold it for
Almost twice
What he paid
So
Not bad
Yeah
Isn't capital
Great
It seriously is
Especially uh
You know
Natus just takes
Advantage of it
As much as possible
That kid knows
How to make money
There's no doubt there
Yeah
He's like
Reading all kinds
Of crazy stuff
That I don't want
To mention on air
And actually
When we were talking
That night
He did say
That there were
Fights and arrests
With like
There was
There's this
Woman that showed up
At like 7am
And cut in line
And the guy behind her
Like said
Excuse me
I've been waiting
In this line
Since like 10pm
The night before
And she almost
Tried to kill him
And the cops
Had to be called
And she was being
Hauled off in handcuffs
When he came out
With his Xbox
And I believe
The guy that
She cut in front of
Did get his Xbox
If I remember correctly
You had another reason
Why I love the holidays
Ah yes
Isn't it wonderful
It brings out
The best in people
Of course
Merry Hanukkah
So yeah
Just a reminder
We are streaming live
Again tonight
Oh yes
You might as well
Get those numbers
Out there
Yeah
So if you want
To call in
And ask a question
Assuming that
Sigmund is now
Sitting
Waiting to take
Your questions
Call 800-732-0442
From within the
United States
Or from outside
The US
Call area code
Country code 1
Area code
213-415-1047
And we will
Answer your calls
Live
The topic tonight
Not theory
What is the topic
Tonight
The topic tonight
Is how MySQL
Is the best database
Ever
Oh my god
We are so going
To just cut that clip
Up and I want to
Play it every once in a while
Whenever you
Why do I open my mouth
Ever
God damn it
No
SQL is the best database
Ever
Oh that's going to go
On a soundboard somewhere
Thank god I'm sick
At least
You know
It will sound like crap
Plausible deniability
Yeah exactly
We will have to get you
Drunk or something
Make you think
That won't be a problem
I'm sure I'll be there
At DEF CON
And hope
Anyway
So
The topic of the show
Is
Postgres
And how it is
The best database
Ever
Yeah see
The reason why
I had you introduce it
Because I wasn't
Completely sure
How to pronounce it
So
Look at me
I'm tricky over there
You know
I've been using it
For like
Three years now
And I don't know
How to pronounce it either
I just say Postgres
PostgresQL
Is a little
Is a little too much
For me
So Postgres
Postgres SQL
Yeah well
It could be
But the thing
You know what
I don't like
Pronouncing it
SQL
Because SQL
Is like a Microsoft thing
Like Microsoft
Calls their server
SQL server
But everybody calls it
MySQL
You know
The language itself
Is called SQL
You know
The CEO of MySQL
Calls it MySQL
Get out of here
No
I'm curious
Don't give him another
Excuse to hate MySQL
Geez
No no no
He says MySQL
Really
I'm impressed
I thought that
No I really thought that
You know
SQL was a Microsoft
Creation
That's just what
They started calling it
It just caught on
But I stand corrected
That's pretty crazy
Well in any case
I'll give MySQL
It's props for it to do
I'm not going to trash it
I'm not going to go crazy
About that
I might even say
Some nice things
About Microsoft SQL
We'll see
Yeah
Holy crap
He's actually going to say
But geez
I didn't expect this
Out of him
I actually can say
Nice things
Every once in a while
It's just not often
Not nice things
About MySQL
Or MySQL
Or whatever you call it
Yeah
I don't know
What you call it
But
I didn't think
That was possible with you
I thought you like
Burst in the flames
No no no
There's a few things
I can say about it
That are nice
I will
When the time comes
Well
Yeah
Well let's go
Hurry that time along
And go straight into email
Our first email
Is from
Machine Screw
And he says
Frapper is what
You're looking for
I was going to
Set one up for you guys
I did one for
Rant Radio
At
WFFrapper.com
Slash Rant Radio
I set the default view
Because I knew
Rant Radio
Had people in Australia
And that we need to see them
I set it up two weeks ago
And there are 200 plus listeners
This is apparently
In response to
Our question about
Doing a map
Or just kind of our
What I
I made a throwaway comment
Throwaway comment
About having a map
Where we
Where we have
Did you do that
Or I said
I don't know
One of us did
No I think
I came up with the idea
Of having like a big
A big map
Where people stick
Where I stick pins in
Where the listeners are
Oh yes
Yes you did
Okay so it wasn't my idea
Oh shucks
I did
This is what I was thinking of
When you were saying it
And I was like
Oh I saw this online service
And this is exactly
What I was thinking of
And I'm going to
Also send a shout out
To Cypress
Who also sent in the link
About literally
Two minutes after this email
But he was
He was a little bit slow
So he didn't get
Right on the air
So I set up a map
It's at
Frapper.com
Slash Binary Revolution
Radio Listeners
And now
Because just
Rather than
Spill everything out
It's tinyurl.com
Slash 9CharlieHotel5Alpha
And just so everyone knows
It's F-R-A-P-P-R
Dot com
I announced it
On the forums
This weekend
And I believe
I also mentioned
In the IRC channel
A couple times
But for those of you
Who don't hang out
In the forums
Or the IRC channels
What the hell's wrong
With you
Go there anyway
But here you go
That's the link
Go push yourself in
And I think
I think our current
Number right now
Is 51
That's what we stood
At this afternoon
I think it'd be cool
If we could break
100
However
Well all we've done
So far is posted
On the message board
We haven't announced
It on the show yet
Yeah so
You never know
Hopefully our listeners
Will go and madly
Start sticking pins
Into the Google Map
Yes Google Maps
Good stuff
I think it'd be cool
If we could break 100
That's my goal
Well I just added myself
So
Oh not there
I believe you're
Our first New York listener
Or
Really
Let's take a look
This is actually pretty cool
I was actually a little
More excited about it
At first
Because I thought it like
I thought it was
Like somehow
Tying into the
Radio server
And finding IPs
And doing all kinds
Of nonsense
But still it's pretty cool
Getting people
To join over this
I'm sure we could do that
Some
Out of anybody
I'm sure you could do that
Jesus Christ
You code wizard you
I could
I probably
Don't have the time
To do it
Seeing how
I can't get anything
Done anymore
But we'll get into that
Later
We'll get into that
Later
Exactly
We're going to put you
On the hot seat
And people are going to
Know what the hell's up
Oh man it's going to be awful
On a sort of
Semi unrelated note
I'm kind of disturbed
By this trend of
We can't think up a name
For something
So we just like
They make up a name
That doesn't have anything
To do with the product
But it's a nonsense word
And nobody has the domain yet
So
That's what the domain
Is called
Oh you don't think
Crapper means anything
Well I don't see how
Yeah I don't see how
Crapper you know
Translates into
Sticking pins on a map
I'm not really sure
Maybe there's like
An about us
Somewhere that explains it
Who knows
Let's draw on your own
I mean well
Also look at Napster
Napster was the
Sean Fanning's nickname
Uh huh
Ah no
No no no no no no
Hold on hold on
What
Crapper does have a meaning
It stands for
Friend Mapper
Yay for totally
Non-apparent meanings
Yeah totally
It's just
I think it was a crap name
And they found a meaning
For it
So whatever
But it was a cool service
Well what they probably
Just did is they said
Okay let's get
Friend Mapper dot com
Damn that's registered
How about
Friend Mapper
No
And they kept on
Subtracting letters
Until they finally got
Frapper
They're like
Fine just register it
Jesus Christ
Yep
Yes well I've actually
Been fooling around
With Google Maps
But more on that later
Right after we
Crill thought theory
Oh damn it
Okay
Our next email tonight
Is from
Kitchy
Or at least how we
No he says
Kitcha
It's like kitchen
Yeah kitchen
Without the
Without the end of the end
So it ends with a
Schwa sound
Not an N
So
Kitcha
So he writes
Yeah I thought
What he said on the IRC
Was K-I-T-C-H-E
Yeah and then I said
Kitchen without the N
And then I said
K-I-T-C-H-S-S-H-W-A
And he said
Yeah that's right
Oh
So
Alright
The email says
Dear Binrev
I would like to say
Thank you for having
Such a wonderful
Internet radio show
Now on to the topic
On why I emailed you
A couple of episodes ago
You were talking about
Single letter domains
And well it seems
That the internet
Oversight agency
Is going to let
These letters
To come over to the public
I was wondering
What your take is on this
Yeah
And emails
Yeah
My honest opinion
I really don't care
And I
They're cool and all
But
You know
95%
What's going to happen
Immediately
When they go on the market
95% of them
Within like the first second
Are going to be like
You know
Put up by
Sex sites
And crazy shit
And you know
Horrible
Redirecting search engines
And Trojan horses
And all that wonderful stuff
And those
Those annoying squatters
And basically
What they're going to try to do
Is resell them for
Like 20,000 times more
Than what the heck
They originally paid
And really
Who wants to pay
A hundred million dollars
For f.com
I don't know
F.com
Sounds pretty cool
It could be short
For flappers
If I could get it
For cheap
I'd get x.com
Well
Apparently
This is kind of bold
Because x.org
Is already taken
Yeah
But there's a
Different group
That administers
The .orgs
Right
No
This is all
Built on by
Ican
And they take
Care of everything
There's also
There's like
I was reading
The news story
On this
Because it was on
Slash.today
And I'm actually
Kind of rehashing
Slash.news
And there's like
You know
Six or seven
Ones
Taken
One of which
I knew
Off the top of my head
Was x.org
Which is like
You know
Q.com
Or something
I can have
Q.com
We can have
Everything about
That
The
Engineer
You're from
James Bond
The Q
Homepage
Fanpage
Oh
I'm
Pleased to
Report that
Zygman has
Finally come to
His senses
And is now
Screening our
Call
So
Again
I'll repeat
The number
Zygman is
Standing by
Operators
And by
Operators
We mean
Zygman
Are standing
By
At
800-732-0442
Or if you're
Calling from
Outside the
U.S.
Area code
213-415-1047
For like
The Christmas
Episode
We should have
Like you know
Two or three
People
And like
Be like
PBS
And like
Ask for money
Donate now
Starving children
Get a free
Binrev tote bag
At the
$50 level
At the
$150 level
Get
Cat sex
Autographed by
Strom Carlson
And Black Ratchet
I always think
Of that
That shirt
You made
What
The Bell
System
Shirt
No
The
I listened
To a
Pinrofe
Radio
Religiously
Oh yeah
That's right
I made a
T-shirt
I listened
Religiously
To Binary
Revolution
Radio
And all
I got
Was this
Lousy
T-shirt
And then
A frowny
Face
Yeah
Well who
Wouldn't
Want one
Of those
Anyway
Getting back
To the
Topic
At hand
I guess
It's kind
Of cool
But I
Never
Understood
Why they
Blocked
Him in
The first
Place
So
Yeah
Whatever
Personally
I want
Them to
Open up
Dot
Int
Which is
A very
Which a lot
Of people
Don't know
About
It's
An
International
Domain
It's sort
Of like
A dot
U.S.
Or dot
FR
And
It stands
For like
International
Entities
Because I
Think it's
Like
UN dot
Int
That's the
UN
Website
And there's
NATO dot
Int
And there's
Like four or
Five different
Ones out
There
I want
Them
To open
It up
And register
It so
I can
Buy
Unsigned
Dot
Int
Or like
Signed
Dot
Int
That would
Be nice
I think the
ITU has a
Dot
Int page
Also
Oh yeah
The ITU
Yep
Yeah
Actually
I wanted
To get
Low dot
IQ
But the
Iraqi
Registrar
Will not
Give it
To me
So
Emailed
And emailed
And got
Nothing
So
Well that's
Actually like
This big
Thing
Because apparently
Like the
Iraqi government
Wants it
Back
But like
It's owned
By like
It's currently
Administered by
This group
In Texas
That doesn't
Want to give
It away
And there's
Like this
Major battle
Going on
At least
There was a
Major battle
Going on
About six or
Seven months
Ago
Really
Initially read
About it
It was
Humorous
How exactly
Did they get
Control of it
Do you have
Any idea
Well because
I think it was
Along the lines
Of because
It was ITU
And UN
And they were
Under UN
Sanctions
When the
Internet came
Around and
They started
Assigning all
This crap
They were like
Well you can't
Have it until
You are not
Under sanctions
Anymore
So they
Cut this
Company in
Texas to do
It or something
I'm not
Exactly sure
How they got
It but I
Believe that
Was how it
Went down
Okay
So
You never
Know
Maybe someday
You can get
Low.IQ
Yeah that would
Be awesome
Or high.IQ
No I want
Low
Genius.IQ
Moron.IQ
Yeah well
The possibilities
Are endless
Mmhmm
It's like
Retarded
I think it's
Like retarded
Mentally
Mental retardation
Dot IQ
Should we move
On to the next
Email
Yes we should
Okay our next
Email is from
Hack 5190
And he says
Strom Carlson
And Black Ratchet
Thanks for reading
My email on
Episode number
123 regarding
Running asterisk
On open WRT
Sitting under my
Desk is an
Unused WRT
54G so adding
Asterisks seemed
Like a good use
For it
I already have
A good supply
Of paperweights
And Linux boxes
Around here
So I'll take
Your advice
And head down
The Linux
Install route
For experience
Before I attempt
The Linksys install
Black Ratchet
Asks
Where the 5190
My name's
Come from
It was my
First hacking
Project
A then current
Nokia 5190
Cell phone
Even though my
Projects have
Expanded beyond
The cellular world
The name stuck
And I gotta say
Mainly the reason
I put this on
Was the
I was deadly
Curious about
The 5190
And I was
We were actually
Kind of desperate
For emails this week
So we put it on here
Good thought on the whole
Not attempting it
Until you get a
Firm grasp on
How to install Linux
And I would just
Like to say
You know
5190 sucks
5165 forever
Yatch
5190 is the
GSM model
So GSM forever
Damn you and your
TDMA
Well screw you
Because GSM sucks
I like GSM
Oh yeah
Well
You know
It's a sticky situation
GSM's cool
Because you can
Swap SIM cards
And all that
But
But still
You know
CDMA
And other standards
They got some
Merit to them
Dude
I'm totally
Jigging CDMA
Now
Ever since I found
About EVDO
Oh yeah
Definitely
Even back in the day
A couple of years ago
When I had Sprint
I was using my
Sprint phone
To connect to the
Internet
Before I had DSL
And man
It was
Whippin'
Fast
Unbelievable
In New York
So CDMA
Has got it made
For data
Everybody tells me
That GSM
Is going to have
I think it's called
UMTS
Or something
That's going to make it
Really fast too
But
I don't know
When it's going to happen
I don't think
There's
Edge
For GSM
Which is
I don't know
It's something
Extended data
For the GSM
Something
Mumble
That's supposedly
Like
Out now
And then there's
Whatever the hell
Is happening
Down the road
We have a call
Let's get a call in
Since we're
Sort of in between here
Okay
This is
DarkSource
Let me pull him in
Guys keep talking
While I bring him in
So
My theory
What's going on
Hey
Not much
I'm just waiting
For a phone call
Yeah
Oh man
Yeah we're having
A four way
On Midnight Radio
Bow
Oh yeah
We need
Four musical
We're waiting
For people to come in
Hopefully soon
I'll have my
Laptop back
Up so I can
Like start having
Like sound boards
In the middle
Of the show
Yeah and I need
To get better
At having this ready
So I can
Bring callers in
Like right now
Say hello
To DarkSource
Hello DarkSource
Hello
Hey Ratchet
Hey Strom
How's it going
Doing well
How are you man
What you don't like
Not Theory
Pretty good
Yeah hey
What's up
Not Theory
What's up man
Alright
Got a question
For you guys
I just got
An IPAC phone
That has
Wi-Fi built in
And I'm looking
For a good client
Either SIP
Or IAX
That supports
G729
Hmm
You're running
On Windows
Whatever they call
The Windows
CE thing now
Yeah
Pocket PC
Yeah
I believe
SJ phone
Oh god
We're having a
VoIP question
Aren't we
Jesus Christ
Yeah
I believe
SJ phone
Supports
G729
Okay
Have you ever
Hooked that up
With Asterix
Or does it
Work well
Or
Yes I've
Hooked it up
With Asterix
However
It's quite
Flaky for me
And I think
That was partially
Because my
Asterix box
Was behind a
Nat
And I didn't
Particularly like
That
I believe
It supports
SJ phone
Supports
G729
However
What it is
The problem
With it
Is that
It only
It
They
They released
It for a while
And then they
Stopped releasing
It for
Well they
I'm sorry
They released
It for free
For a while
And then they
Stopped releasing
It for free
And technically
They don't anymore
However
What you can do
Is you can find
A
Older version of it
Which still
Works fine
And it is
It's also a bit
Of a memory hog
If I remember
Correctly
Is it SIP only
Yes it's only SIP
There is
There is no
Eek soft phone
For pocket PC
Yet
Okay
So
I'm trying to figure out
Why you'd want to use
G729
That's the one you have
To pay money for
Isn't it
Well I actually
Purchased the license
Oh okay
But
Just for lower bandwidth
That's the only reason
Really
Right
Yeah I'm sure
A lot of these
Will also support
GSM
So
Well I know
For a fact
SJ phone
Supports
GSM
Sounds roughly
The same
And it costs
Less money
Yes
That's why
If given
If forced to use
A low bandwidth
Codec
I'll choose
One of the free ones
Rather than
The
I believe
There's like
Three or four
Codecs
That supports
If I remember
Correctly
I don't know
Not there
Are you big
On the whole
Pocket PC thing
Actually I'm
Brand new to it
I just got it
Today
How about you
Not there
You know
I'm planning
On getting one
It's just
I'm having a
Really hard time
Choosing which one
Because there's a
Choice between
You know
From which
I'm not into
It all
Windows Mobile
2003
And then
Windows Mobile
5.0
And I really
Want Windows
Mobile 5.0
But everything
That supports
It is just
Really expensive
So
Well
The one I just
Got today
Is actually
Has a
The singular
Cell network
As well as
Wi-Fi built in
And
It
It's pretty cool
I like it a lot
I can go
But what I want
To do is be able
To use
SIP when I have
Wi-Fi
And be able to
Use the cell
When I don't
Yeah that sounds
Pretty cool
I think there
Was a phone
Out there
That did that
If I remember
Correctly
But
This one's
HP6325
Yeah these
HP ones are
Nice
I personally
Am a fan
Of the
Axums
The
X50
And the
X51
And that
Series
But
I played
With iPacks
Before
They're pretty
Cool
And I believe
Also
If you're
Well actually
If you have
Singular built into
It
I'm not sure
If you're
A little
Mess with it
Is
iPacks
Are much
Better supported
Under
Handhelds.org
And
Qtopia
And all
That good
Stuff
Cool
Familiar
That's what I'm
Thinking of
Familiar
The Linux
Distribution
For iPacks
So
Well look at
SJphone
That's the only
There's
I also think
There's a couple
Other
SIP clients
Out there
But
I believe
SJphone
Is the
Most reliable
And or
Free one
Well
Sounds great
I'll check it
Out
Hey
I enjoyed
Your guys'
Show at
DEF CON
I was there
So
Shout out to
That
Cool
Hopefully you
Be at the
Next DEF CON
Oh for sure
Okay cool
I'm going to
Fed CON here
Soon
Cool
I should be
Doing a
Talk there
So
Already got one
In the works
Cool
Alright you guys
Have a good one
You too
Have a good one
Man
Talk to you
Later
Bye
I'm hurt
That I was
Not informed
Of this
Well no
I just
I've just
Kind of
Came to
The
Come to
The
Conclusion
Recently
And I'm
Going to
Do
Another
Talk
So
I should
Get like
Working on
DEF CON
By phone
And hope
By phone
So it's
Not
I don't
Have to
Write it
The day
Of
Yeah
What I
Think we
Really need
To do
This time
Is actually
Like have
Some sort
Of a menu
Tree
Beforehand
On paper
So we
Know what
The hell
We're
Doing
Yeah
So
Know what
We're
Doing
Oh that's
No fun
Come on
Maybe
We can
Write it
Yeah
Maybe we
Can
Write it
All
So it's
Just
All
Uses
Postgres
Yeah
Exactly
Yeah
Definitely
That's
Your
Job
You're
The
Coding
I'm
The
Talking
Exactly
A whole
Lot
Of
Talking
So
Strom
We'll
Start
With
You
First
Then
We'll
Go
Down
To
Not
Theory
What
Have
You
Been
Doing
Lately
I
Have
Been
Doing
About
The
Same
Things
I've
Been
Doing
Before
Just
More
With
The
Smart
Cards
And
Following
The
AT&T
Merger
And
That's
Been
About
It
I
Haven't
Really
Done
Much
Hacking
This
Week
Per
Say
Well
You
Made
A
Phone
Call
Today
Didn't
You
Oh
Yeah
I
Just
For
Kicks
I
Called
Up
SBC's
Corporate
Headquarters
In
San
Antonio
Just
To
See
What
Would
Happen
And
So
Thank
Calling
AT&T
Powered
By
SBC
For
Residential
Service
Press
1
For
Business
Service
Press
2
For
All
Other
Inquiries
Press
3
So
You
Press
3
During
Business
Hours
And
There
Receptionist
Answers
AT&T
Powered
By
SBC
This
Is
Anna
Can I
Help
You
That's
About
As far
As I
Got
You
Didn't
Ask
For
Mr.
Whitaker
No
I
Didn't
Think
To
Ask
For
Mr.
Whitaker
Though
I
Think
Would
Be
Cute
We
Can't
Really
Do
It
Like
Do
It
During
The
Show
Since
They're
Closed
But
I
Think
It
Would
Be
Amusing
To
Call
Up
Mr.
Whitaker
And
Leave
In
His
Voicemail
Box
A
Rendition
Of
Us
Saying
Happy
Merger
To
You
And
He'll
Get
All
Warm
And
Fuzzy
Inside
Maybe
We
Can
Do
It
For
The
Chairman
Of
Verizon
When
They
Finish
Their
Merger
With
MCI
True
Well
They
Just
Got
Approval
For
That
I
Believe
Yeah
They've
Got
California
Approval
And
Federal
Approval
I
Think
The
Only
Hurdle
For
Them
Are
A
Couple
Of
States
That
They
Still
Need
To
Be
Approved
In
I
Wonder
If
Massachusetts
Approved
Them
I
Forget
I
Know
With
The
AT&T
Merger
California
Was
Like
The
Last
Hold
Out
And
Pretty
Much
The
Day
California
Gave
Their
Approval
The
Merger
Closed
Hmm
So
Anyway
For
Me
At
Least
I've
Been
I
Broached
Into
The
Wonderful
World
Of
Google
Maps
And
I
Finally
Sat
Down
And
Started
Looking
At
All
Their
API
And
Everything
And
Hopefully
Sooner
Rather
Than
Later
And
A
Few
People
Have
Already
Seen
This
I
Going
To
Start
Working
Into
Yet
Another
Pay
Phone
List
So
You
Can
Get
Pretty
Age
When
You
Bring
Up
A
Phone
And
It
Sort
Of
Works
I've
Actually
It
Actually
Maps
It
Just
Looks
Absolutely
Hideous
On
The
Web
Page
I
Need
To
Find
A
Way
Of
Working
It
In
So
It
Actually
Looks
Not
Like
This
Horrible
Kledge
That
It
Currently
Does
I
Actually
I
Salvaged
It
On
My
Server
Finally
I
Copied
All
Stuff
Over
The
Network
And
I
Finally
Got
All
The
Old
I
Brought
Myself
Peace
Of
Mind
By
Getting
All
The
Bin
Rev
Radio
Episodes
Off
Of
All
The
Raw
Ones
That
We
Keep
Online
All
Like
Oh
20
Gigs
Worth
Yeah
Copied
Over
And
The
Catalyst
For
This
Is
I
Also
Recently
Bought
Another
160
Drive
From
My
Desktop
And
Yeah
That's
About
It
So
Not
Theory
Hey
What's
Up
What
Have
You
Been
Doing
I
Been
Sitting
On
A
Beach
In
The
British
Virgin
Islands
Doing
Nothing
For
The
Past
Four
Month
I
Always
Assumed
That
I
Assume
You
Picked
Up
That
Cold
Down
In
The
British
Virgin
Islands
Yeah
Definitely
No
I
Been
Working
A
Lot
Doing
Some
Pretty
Good
Business
Which
Means
That
I
Haven't
Been
Doing
Much
Of
Anything
With
Bell's
Mind
But
There
Is
An
Update
Plan
For
It
Like
There's
Been
For
A
Long
Time
It's
Partially
Finished
And
The
Biggest
Issue
With
It
Right
Now
Is
That
I
Guess
I
Can
Let
Everybody
Know
I'm
Changing
From
PHP
And
I
Know
That
You're
Going
To
Hear
This
I'm
Changing
From
PHP
To
Ruby
On
Rails
Now
Initially
I
Was
Just
Going
To
Play
Around
Ruby
On
Rails
Because
It
Was
Fashionable
And
Cool
And
Whatever
But
After
Looking
At
It
It's
Like
Definitely
Fundamentally
Like
A
Better
Way
To
Design
Web
Based
Interfaces
To
Big
Databases
Like
That
So
I'm
Going
To
Get
Some
Ruby
On
Rails
A
Little
Bit
Of
AJAX
Going
Pretty
The
Thing
Up
And
Hopefully
It'll
Be
A
Lot
More
Usable
Than
Yeah
It
Just
Simplifies
A
Lot
Of
Things
There's
A
Very
Good
Separation
Of
Business
Logic
And
Presentation
Logic
There's
A
Very
Strong
Line
This
Is
Your
Presentation
Stuff
This
Is
Your
Day
To
Day
Stuff
And
They
Absolutely
Never
Mix
Unless
You
Need
To
Do
Something
Really
Weird
So
That's
Really
Nice
So
I
Can
Go
And
Change
It
Not
Where
The
Now
Yeah
Probably
Jesus
Christ
No
But
You
Know
What
You
Don't
Have
To
Spend
Your
Whole
Life
Doing
It
You
Know
What
You
Can
Do
I
Have
To
Send
You
Some
Links
On
It
But
There's
A
Couple
Of
Videos
That
Show
Some
People
Throwing
Together
Some
Basic
Applications
With
Ruby
On
Rails
And
This
Guy
Writes
A
Web
Blog
With
Comment
Support
And
All
This
Kind
Of
Stuff
In
Like
Five
Minutes
It's
Really
Pretty
Awesome
And
It's
Got
Some
Built
In
Ajax
Support
So
There's
Little
Tags
That
You
Can
Put
In
There
That
Say
When
A
User
Submits
This
Take
The
Results
From
This
Script
And
Put
It
Here
On
The
Form
And
It's
Not
Convoluted
At
All
It's
A
Simple
Syntax
That
Makes
Sense
When
You
Do
It
So
It
Does
A
Lot
Of
Grunt
Work
You
Don't
Need
To
Connect
To
Your
Database
You
Basically
Put
Your
Database
Configuration
In
One
Place
And
All
Your
Pages
Connect
To
It
Only
If
They
Need
To
It
Understands
How
Your
Database
Is
Laid
Out
From
The
Database
Driver
And
You
Can
Just
Pull
Data
Out
Of
It
You
Can
Search
For
Data
Very
Easily
It's
Just
Awesome
I'm
Not
Saying
PHP
Is
Dead
Or
Anything
PHP
Has
More
Libraries
That
It
Can
Use
Than
Ruby
Does
Right
Now
But
PHP
For
Me
Personally
I'm
Only
Going
To
Use
It
In
Applications
That
I'm
Already
Using
With
The
Exception
Of
Mine
Which
I'm
Going
To
Rewrite
So
That's
About
It
Maybe
Help
To
Redesign
Apple
Damn
You
For
Giving
Me
More
Work
No
Well
Check
It
Out
Maybe
You'll
Think
It
Just
Does
The
Job
Quickly
But
Did
First
And
It
Went
Pretty
Well
I
Gotta
Say
I
Am
Digging
The
Whole
Ajax
Thing
I
Was
Looking
At
Online
That
And
I
Was
Going
Oh
Shit
This
Stuff
Is
Pretty
Good
Yeah
May
Have
To
Go
Work
Some
Stuff
Out
Yeah
It's
Nice
To
Have
Your
Applications
Responsive
And
Not
Web
Like
That's
The
Biggest
Problem
For
Me
When
I'm
Using
An
Application
On
The
Web
It's
Just
Whatever
It's
Called
Like
All
These
Things
Are
Real
Quick
Web
Applications
You
Know
I've
Never
Actually
Played
With
Virtual
Earth
Mainly
Because
Google
Maps
Has
Everything
Well
You
Know
Something
Virtual
Earth
Actually
Has
A lot
Of
Things
That
Are
Better
Than
Google
Maps
Believe
It
Checked
It
Out
And
Microsoft
Does
A
Couple
Of
Things
Right
I
Gotta
Give
Them
Credit
And
Virtual
Earth
The
One
Thing
I
Like
Better
Than
Google
Maps
Is
I
Think
That
The
Satellite
Imagery
That
They
Have
Is
Better
Than
The
Google
Maps
Stuff
Sometimes
Google
Maps
Satellite
Imagery
Is
True
Color
Real
Color
And
Some
Of
It
Is
Grey
And
Some
Of
It
Pink
And
All
Kind
Of
Weird
Stuff
Virtual
Earth
Seems
To
Be
A
Little
Bit
More
Uniform
At
Least
The
Places
That
I
Am
Looking
So
Well
Actually
What
I
Did
Hear
Is
Apparently
Well
Virtual
Earth
May
Be
More
Uniform
But
It
Older
Like
For
Example
If
You
This
Was
A
Big
Hoo-ha
About
A
Couple
Months
Ago
Where
If
You
Went
On
To
Virtual
Earth
And
You
Looked
At
Apple
Cupertino
Campus
All
You
Saw
Was
This
Big
Parking
Lot
Or
Like
This
Giant
Dirt
Pile
And
Everyone
Thought
Oh
My
God
They
Erased
It
They're
A
Bunch
Of
Idiots
And
I
Actually
Sat
Down
I
Looked
At
My
Lug
List
Actually
Sent
This
Out
To
Me
And
I
Looked
At
It
And
I
Was
Like
Well
No
That
Looks
Like
Construction
Equipment
And
Sure
Enough
When
This
Hit
The
Register
And
Yeah
You
Know
What
For
A
Lot
Of
The
Satellite
Stuff
It's
Not
Really
It's
Not
Really
All
That
Important
Some
Places
Of
Course
Where
They
Do
A lot
Of
Construction
Yeah
It
Stuff
Is
All
Aerial
Photography
Oh
Right
You
Are
Right
Yes
But
They
Still
I
Mean
They
Still
Are
Mismatched
In
Places
And
It's
Annoying
Well
Like
A lot
Of
The
Stuff
That
They're
Mismatched
In
Is
When
It
Like
Flips
Over
From
Aerial
Photography
To
Satellite
And
It
Looks
Absolutely
Horrid
Right
But
Actually
A lot
Of
The
Stuff
From
If
You
Ever
Look
At
Cambridge
Massachusetts
On
The
Google
Earth
Client
I
Assume
Google
Maps
As
Well
That
That's
Actually
All
Imagery
From
Satellite
And
It's
All
Like
One
Meter
Orthogonal
It's
Pretty
Sweet
Like
You
See
People
It's
Creepy
Because
Yeah
It's
Awesome
If
You
Ever
Look
At
It
Apparently
There
Were
Some
People
At
MIT
That
Had
Gobs
Of
Money
So
They
Hooked
It
Up
Over
To
Cambridge
And
Yeah
We're
Doing
Satellite
Imagery
Do
You
Want
To
Have
Cambridge
All
Done
We
Have
Shapiro
Cash
Sitting
Around
And
They're
Like
Okay
So
Now
All
Their
Maps
Are
Down
To
One
Meter
Resolution
It's
Pretty
Insane
Wow
Now
This
Is
On
Google
Earth
Or
Google
Maps
Or
Both
Because
I
Think
They
Use
Different
sources
I
Know
For
A
Fact
It's
On
Google
Earth
But
I
Think
It
Also
Might
Be
On
For
The
Entire
State
Like
They
Did
It
Themselves
For
Like
GIS
Work
And
I
Believe
They've
Worked
Into
That
So
And
That's
Where
Google
Maps
Gets
It
So
They
May
Have
It
They
May
Not
I
Don't
Know
And
I'm
On
VoIP
So
I'm
Not
Going
To
Download
It
And
Get
Garbled
Up
Oh
No
I'm
Checking
It
Out
Right
Now
Oh
Good
Shit
So
Okay
Well
Our
Next
Our
Next
Question
Is
What's
Up
With
Freak
Factor
Ouch
Oh
Man
You
Don't
Pull
Any
Punches
This
Isn't
Like
A
Bullshit
TV
Interview
Oh
Man
Really
I
Mean
The
Only
Reason
I'm
Asking
Is
Because
I
Constantly
Get
Asked
Like
Oh
Man
When's
The
Freak
Factor
Coming
On
Don't
You
Know
No
I
Don't
You
Know
What
The
Funny
Thing
About
It
Is
When
The
Show
Was
On
Everybody
Said
It
Was
Stupid
And
What's
The
Point
And
All
This
Kind
Of
Crap
And
As
I'm
Doing
The
Transition
From
The
Old
Bell's
Mind
Server
To
The
New
Bell's
Mind
Server
I'm
Moving
Freak
Factor
Over
And
I'm
Trying
To
Do
One
Project
At
A
Time
So
One
Actually
Gets
Done
And
Freak
Factor
Is
Going
To
Wait
Until
Bell's
Mind
Is
Back
Up
Just
Because
The
Way
Things
Are
Going
For
Me
So
It
Could
Be
Two
Weeks
It
Could
Be
Three
Weeks
Who
Knows
But
It
Is
Coming
Back
In
Some
Form
Or
Another
Eventually
Do
You
Want
To
Say
Bye
The
New
Year
Or
Do
You
Just
Want
To
Say
Any
Date
At
This
Point
Well
You
Know
What
The
Problem
Is
With
The
Whole
New
Year
Thing
Around
The
Holidays
I
Don't
Really
Have
A lot
Much
Time
To
Sit
Around
And
Program
Because
I
Can't
Really
Guarantee
I
Have
That
Much
Time
To
Dedicate
I
May
Not
Even
Be
In
The
U.S.
For
Some
Of
The
Holidays
So
Not
There
Is
The
International
Man
A
Mystery
I
Going
Back
To
British
Virgin
Islands
Come
On
Yeah
True
We
Going
To
Have
A
Mai
Thai
Going
To
Request
Your
Margarita
With
No
Salt
We
Need
Buy
Music
Right
Now
I
Don't
Report
You
To
The
Tourist
Bureau
No
I
Don't
I
Don't
Know
That
I
I'll
Be
Doing
That
There's
A
Possibility
I'll
Go
Out
Of
The
Country
But
If
I
Do
Get
A
Chance
To
Go
Out
The
Country
That
Means
There
Will
Be
No
Bell's
That
Will
Pay
Me
Off
So
I
Don't
Go
On
Vacation
But
I
Really
Don't
Think
That's
Going
To
Happen
So
Yeah
We
Have
Trouble
Getting
People
To
Call
The
Show
For
Free
And
Say
Hi
Ask
Here's
A
I
Got
An
Email
From
War
Saying
That
He
Likes
Free
Factor
And
I
Got
An
Email
From
Somebody
Else
Saying
Yeah
I
Want
Bell's
Mind
Back
Up
I
Think
It
Was
Coder
But
Other
That
I
Hear
Things
From
Other
People
Like
Natus
Will
Tell
Me
Oh
People
Are
Asked
When
Bell's
Mind
Is
Going
Back
Up
But
You'll
Tell
Me
People
Want
To
Know
What
Free
Fact
Is
Back
Up
But
Nobody
Ever
Tells
Me
I
Don't
Know
Why
So
Because
You're
This
Unapproachable
Guy
Who's
Constantly
Hanging
Out
Down
The
Virgin
Islands
They
Don't
Want
To
End
You
And
Get
Owned
That's
True
I
Might
Start
Another
Hurricane
Yeah
So
Epsilon
You
Who
Pissed
You
Off
This
Time
You
Know
It
Was
The
DMV
This
Time
I
Don't
Want
To
Go
Into
It
Now
You
Got
Two
Emails
So
Yeah
All
Of
You
Who
Are
Listening
And
Are
Too
Lazy
To
Call
In
Pick
Up
Your
Telephone
And
Give
Us
A
Call
With
Whatever
Question
You
Want
To
Ask
Us
800
Not
Theory
On
The
Lack
Of
Bell's
Mind
Yes
Exactly
Give
Your
Opportunity
To
Do
Live
And
Humiliate
Him
In
Front
Of
All
How
Many
Listen
Right
Now
20
Listen
To
The
Podcast
Definitely
Call up
Scream at
Me
Telling
Me
I'm
A
Terrible
Person
And
I
Will
Do
Nothing
But
Sit
Back
And
Thank
You
For
It
Yes
800
732
0442
I
Repeat
800
732
0442
Or
If
You're
Calling
From
Outside
The
U.S.
Sorry
Outside
The
U.S.
Area
Code
213415
1047
Prefixed
Obviously
With
Whatever
Code
You
To
Access
The
United
States
112
Then
215
And
Then
The
And
This
Signals
Are
Our
Best
Poggin
They
Cost
A
Penny
Anyway
Oh
Man
I
Do
Have
Email
Man
You
Are
Sneaky
Bastard
Yes
I
Am
Sneaky
Bastard
So
Should
We
Get
Into
Our
Specific
Topic
Well
Let's
Go
Sit
Back
And
Let's
Watch
Not
Theory
Rant
And
Rave
Here
Okay
Well
My
First
Question
That
I
Have
Written
Down
Here
Was
How
Do
You
Actually
Pronounce
Postgres
So
We
Already
Sort
Of
Vintured
So
Not
Theory
What
Is
Postgres
SQL
Well
The
Simple
Answer
Is
That
It's
A
Database
The
Slightly
Longer
Answer
Is
That
It's
A
Free
Database
That's
Been
Developed
For
Many
Years
That's
Pretty
Much
On
Par
With
I
Don't
Know
If I'd
Say
On
Par
With
Oracle
But
I
Definitely
Know
That
The
Comparisons
I've
Done
Between
It
And
Microsoft
SQL
Server
It
Surpasses
Microsoft
SQL
Server
In
Some
Places
And
It's
Very
Close
To
Others
So
I
Would
Say
Right
Now
It's
The
Most
Feature
Packed
Reliable
Free
Database
That's
Anywhere
Essentially
How does
It compare
To
Say
MySQL
Oh
Man
Who
Can
Compare
To
MySQL
Well
Let me
Tell you
MySQL
It's
Just
So
Awesome
I
Know
It's
The
Absolute
Best
No
Seriously
I'll
Try
To
Be
As
Serious
As
I
Can
About
This
Without
Screaming
And
Flipping
Out
Especially
Since
I'm
Sick
I
Can't
Scream
Flip
Out
So
Well
You
Can
Try
To
Scream
And
Then
You'll
Just
Kind of
End
Yeah
But
You
Guys
Will
See
A
Kinder
Chantler
Not
There
Because
I
Can't
Yell
Thank
You
Cold
Virus
So
MySQL
Does
A
Few
Things
Really
Well
It's
Simple
Kind of
And
It's
Fast
And
People
Like
To
Use
It
Because
It
Comes
With
Red Hat
Or
Red Hat
Enterprise
Linux
Or
Whatever
It
Comes
With
A
Lot
Of
Systems
Either
Pre-Installed
Or
As
A
Package
That
Is
Very
Easy
To
Install
Personally
I
Don't
Think
MySQL
Is
Easier
To
Use
Than
Postgres
But
We
Won't
Even
Get
Into
That
But
Like
I
Said
It's
Very
Simple
I
Think
Postgres
You
Can
Get
By
Just
Creating
User
Accounts
And
Using
It
Very
Simple
Fashion
Like
That
But
Postgres
Gives
You
The
Freedom
To
Like
Really
Get
Into
Databases
And
Say
Like
I
Want
To
Start
Learning
Triggers
And
Store
Procedures
And
You
Know
Rules
And
Roles
And
All
Kinds
Of
Stuff
Like
That
MySQL
Actually
May
Support
In
Version
5.0
But
I
Haven't
Checked
It
Out
Too
Much
Yet
Yeah
So
In
General
I
Just
Think
Postgres
Is
Probably
If I
Had
To
Guess
I
Say
Two
Or
Three
Years
Ahead
Of
Where
MySQL
Is
Like
I
Know
MySQL
Now
Does
Have
Triggers
And
Some
Sort
Of
Procedures
And
What
Not
But
You
Know
Postgres
Has
Been
For
Years
How
Long
Has
Postgres
Been
Around
I
Think
I
Want
To
Say
It's
Like
Eight
Years
But
I
Could
I
Could
Be
Wrong
Well
We
Can
Talk
Yeah
I
Look
It
Up
For
You
Yeah
I
Do
Remember
The
MySQL
Was
Out
Before
Postgres
Okay
Since
You're
Talking
About
All
This
I
Am
A
MySQL
Baby
MySQL
Or
Whatever
You
Want
To
Go
Look
What
In
God's
Name
Are
All
These
Things
Triggered
Storage
Procedures
Complex
Joins
Okay
Let's
Start
Out
With
How
Like
How
You
Language
Using
The
SQL
Language
You
Would
Get
Data
Out
Of
Your
Database
By
Using
Something
Like
A
Select
Statement
Or
You
Would
Put
Data
In
Your
Database
Using
An
Insert
Statement
Or
Update
Statement
And
In
A
Very
Simple
Database
Let's
Say
You
Want
To
Make
A
Database
Of
Your
Friends
And
Their
Phone
Numbers
You
Could
Say
Insert
My
Friend's
First
Name
My
Friend's
Last
Name
And
My
Send
Phone
Number
Into
This
Table
It's
A
Pretty
Simple
Example
Of
A
Database
But
As
You
Get
To
A
Database
That's
Larger
And
Larger
You
Know
Inserting
One
Piece
Of
Data
May
Not
Be
As
Simple
As
You
Know
Insert
This
One
Record
Into
A
Table
You
May
Have
To
Insert
Things
Into
Like
You
Know
Five
Or
Six
Different
Tables
And
In
Order
To
Make
Sure
That
Everything
Happens
At
One
Shot
You
Want
To
Use
Transaction
The
Transaction
Says
I'm
Going
To
Execute
All
These
Things
But
If
One
Of
Them
Fails
Then
Roll
Back
Everything
I
Did
If
You
Don't
Have
If
Your
Database
Doesn't
Have
Transaction
Support
You
Have
To
Constantly
Check
And
Say
Did
My
Last
Step
Work
If
It
Didn't
Work
Then
Let
Me
Roll
Things
Back
And
The
Problem
With
That
Left
Inconsistent
So
Transactions
Are
Something
That
My
SQL
Does
Support
With
Some
Extra
Software
But
Postgres
Has
Supported
For
A
Long
Time
So
That
Big
Feature
Number
One
Still
Procedures
Are
Basically
If
You
Want
To
Make
A
Function
To
Do
Something
You
Could
Do
It
All
On
Your
On
Your
Client
Side
Where
You
Say
Okay
Let
Pass
All
These
Statements
To
My
SQL
My
Postgres
Server
And
Your
Side
But
You
Could
Move
All
Of
That
Processing
To
The
Server
Side
By
Taking
All
That
Code
And
Putting
It
Into
A
Stored
Procedure
And
Storing
It
In
The
Database
And
That
Saves
You
A
Lot
Of
Traffic
You
Don't
Have
To
Go
Back
And
For
And
Say
Insert
This
Was
It
Successful
Insert
This
Was
It
Successful
You
Can
Tell
The
Database
Hey
Listen
I
You
So
You
Being
Nice
In
Your
Network
Resources
And
You
Keeping
All
The
Processing
On
The
Server
Side
Where
It
Belongs
Triggers
Are
Something
That
You
Can
Tell
The
Database
When
A
Certain
Action
Happens
Like
Let's
Say
Somebody
Inserts
A
Record
Into
The
Database
You
Say
Somebody
Inserts
A
New
Person
Into
The
Database
I
Want
To
Insert
A
Piece
Of
Data
Into
Like
An
Audit
Trail
Database
So
A
Trigger
Is
Just
Basically
A
Piece
Of
Code
That
Executes
Itself
When
It
Sees
Either
A
Select
And
Update
And
Insert
Or
Delete
Statement
And
It
Can
Be
Very
Nice
For
Security
Because
You
Can
Have
A
Table
That
Your
Users
Can't
Touch
That
Has
An
Audit
Trail
That
Says
This
User
This
And
This
And
If
Your
User
Has
Ability
To
Insert
Update
And
Delete
From
The
Audit
Trail
That
Set
Up
The
Triggers
And
Then
Check
And
Say
Okay
Well
You
Inserted
A
Bunch
Of
These
Sales
And
You
Deleted
Them
And
Now
The
Money
Is
Missing
So
What
Happened
So
It
Can
Be
A
Security
Thing
It
Can
Be
Just
Basically
A
Logging
Thing
Or
It
Can
Make
Your
Database
Enforce
Some
Kind
Of
Rules
You
Can
Say
If
Somebody
Tries
To
Insert
A
Record
Here
Make
Sure
It
Matches
This
And
This
And
Then
Insert
Another
Record
Here
Stating
That
It
Did
Match
All
The
Criteria
You
Can
Actually
Even
Have
Triggers
Rollback
Statements
If
They
Don't
Meet
Certain
Criteria
So
In
That
Sense
They
Can
Kind
Be
Like
Store
Procedures
As
Well
But
Instead
Of
Executing
It
Explicitly
It
Kind
Of
Executes
In
The
Background
You
Don't
Really
Know
About
And
Like
I
Said
If
You
Are
Doing
A
Simple
Database
It
Doesn't
Really
Matter
If
You
Have
All
These
Features
Or
Not
But
If
You
Really
Want
Your
Database
To
Do
A
Lot
Of
Really
Cool
Things
And
Be
Consistent
All
The
Time
You
Need
Transactions
And
You
Need
Triggers
And
Basically
In
My
Opinion
In
My
SQL
You
Just
Can't
Get
Along
Without
So
That
Why
I
Postgres
Is
The
Way
To
Go
So
That
Was
Kind
Of
A
Very
Long
Answer
That
Encompassed
A
Lot
Of
Things
So
If
There's
Anything
That's
Unclear
Definitely
Ask me
To
Expand
Upon
And
I
Will
Expand
Away
I
Think
You
Pretty
Much
Nailed
It
Down
I
Found
Answers
To
Our
Questions
About
History
And
Pronunciation
Who
Is
Tommy
Oh
Not
That
Question
Okay
The
Correct
Pronunciation
Is
Postgres
QL
Okay
There's
Even
A
Handy
MP3
File
That
Tells
You
What
It
Is
Wow
Cool
It
Sounds
Like
This
Postgres
QL
Alright
That's
Too
Soft
Postgres
QL
There
We
Go
Wow
Okay
I'm
Learning
I'm
Learning
And
Okay
So
The
Basic
Summarized
History
Is
The
Guy
At
Berkeley
Was
Working
On
Ingress
The
Ingress
Project
Got
Sick
Of
It
He
Left
It
To
Commercialize
It
In 82
And
Eventually
Returned
To
Academia
He
Started
Working
On
Postgres
In
1985
First
Release
Was
In
June
1989
And
It's
Been
Rewritten
Since
Then
Wow
Okay
So
It's
Been
Out
Much
Longer
Than
I
Thought
Pretty
Cool
That's
Pretty
Insane
I
Didn't
Think
It
Was
Out
That
Long
But
I
Guess
I
Was
Wrong
Yeah
And
If
You
If
You
Go
To
The
About
Page
Also
There's
A
Couple
Of
Interesting
Factoids
About
It
Like
The
Maximum
Database
Size
Is
Unlimited
I
Don't
Know
How
To
Pull
That
Off
But
Maximum
Table
Size
Is
32
Terabytes
Maximum
Row
Size
Is
1.6
Terabytes
And
Maximum
Field
Size
Get
This
Is
One
Gigabyte
So
Postgres
Can
Handle
Huge
Data
Sets
Whereas
Finally
Can
Code
The
Entire
Porn
Movies
Into
One
Row
Yeah
Seriously
Not
Bad
So
I'm
Just
I'm
Just
Curious
Maximum
Database
Size
Unlimited
What
Happens
If
I
Have
Like
A
800
Meg
Hard
Drive
I
Really
Don't
Think
I'm
One
Of
32
Terabytes
Down
There
That's
What
I'm
Saying
That's
Why
I
Say
That
Unlimited
Is
Just
Strange
I
Don't
Know
How
They
Can
Deal
With
That
But
Practically
Unlimited
Crazy
Encryption
All right
Well
You
Were
Saying
That
My
SQL
Is
Simple
To
Get
Running
So
Like
You
Know
The
Other
Side
Of
That
Does
That
Mean
That
PostgreSQL
Is
Hard
To
Get
Running
Actually
No
You
Know
People
Always
Say
My
School
Is
Very
Easy
To
Get
Running
And
It
Is
If
You
Have
A
Package
That
Installs
It
And
Even
If
You're
Compiling
From
Source
It's
Really
Not
That
Hard
But
I
Guess
When
I
First
Started
Using
PostgreSQL
I
Was
Like
Oh
Wow
This
Is
Going
To
Be
A
Real
Hassle
To
Install
But
It
Turned
Out
You
Know
I
Built
It
From
Source
I
Run
Emit
DB
And
Then
I
Run
Create
User
And
Create
Database
And
I
Got
A
Database
Up
And
Running
So
PostgreSQL
Especially
Since
A lot
Of
Distributions
Like
Gen2
We
Have
Pension
Gen2
They
Have
Packages
For
It
You
Can
Install
No
Problem
And
It
Got
You
Know
A
Little
Blob
After
You
After
You
Get
It
Installed
It
Says
You
Have
To
Do
This
And
This
To
Set
It
Up
And
I
Think
It's
Really
Easy
User
Administration
In
Postgres
Is
Just
Cake
On
The
Command
Line
You
Want
To
Create
A
New
User
You
Type
Create
User
And
User
Name
And
It
Creates
It
That's
It
In
My
SQL
If
You
Want
To
Do
It
You
It's
Simple
Also
But
It's
A
Few
More
Steps
Than
Just
Typing
Create
User
In
The
User
Name
So
No
My
SQL
Sucks
For
User
Administration
Unless
You're
Using
Their
Wonderful
Graphic
Client
It
Sucks
Hard
We
Do
Have
A
Question
About
Integration
With
Apache
And
PHP
And
Perl
Sure
Go for it
Yeah
Let me
I think
It's
Right
Coast
Let's
See
Because
That's
Actually
One
Of
My
Questions
Is
How
Easy
Is
It
To
Get
Running
With
All
This
Crazy
Stuff
Is
Bell's
I
Assume
That
Bell's
Mind
Is
All
Postgres
Yes
Bell's
Mind
Is
All
Postgres
And
It's
Running
With
PHP
So
Right
There
It's
Just
Not
Very
Hard
To
Get
Running
I
Guess
You're
An
Expert
Yeah
I
Will
Admit
That
Apple
Is
All
My
SQL
And
Like
I
Said
That's
Totally
Fine
I
Don't
I
Don't
Hate
People
That
Use
My
SQL
I
Hate
When
People
Say
That
My
SQL
Is
Easier
To
Administer
Without
Actually
Looking
At
The
Two
Of
Them
Or
I
Hate
People
That
Say
My
SQL
Is
Faster
Without
Actually
Giving
Me
A
Real
Comparison
You
Know
That
Type
Of
Stuff
Baseless
Comparison
Of
What
I
Just
Like
About
The
whole
My
SQL
Versus
Postgres
thing
Well
I
Think
That
Postgres
Was
Pretty
Hard
To
Administer
Back
When
Linux
Started
Starting
Because
I
Remember
Looking
At
It
Like
98
99
And
It
Was
Clunky
It
Was
Really
Clunky
And
Most
Of
The
Code
Out
There
In
1998
Was
All
Playing
My
SQL
My
I
Had
The
Same
Problem
I
Used
My
SQL
Also
Back
Then
Because
I
Saw
That
Postgres
Was
Like
I
Said
Had
Tons
Of
Features
And
There
Wasn't
That
Much
Example
Code
And
When
I
Started
Using
My
SQL
I
Was
Like
What
Do
I
Need
Besides
Select
Insert
Update
And
Delete
But
Then
I
Saw
The
Light
We
Have
Right
Coast
On
The
Line
Hey
What
Is
Hey
How
Are
You
Well
What
I
Was
Wondering
Is
Basically
I
Have
Some
Program
Experience
In
Perl
You
Know
I
Took
College
Programming
Theory
Classes
You
Know
The
Intro
To
Programming
Type
Stuff
I
Have
An
Apache
Machine
Debian
Server
And
I
Figured
If
You
Know
Learn
Through
Your
Pitfalls
If
You
Had
To
Do
It
Over
Again
What
Would
You
Start
Out
With
And
Do
You
Know
Any
Good
Books
On
Exactly
Where
I
Mean
I
Never
Used
SQL
At
All
It
Is
Kind
Of
Hard
To
Say
Honestly
I
Would
Probably
Wow
Man
It
Is
Really
Hard
To
Say
I
Would
I
Would
Say
Start
Out
With
PHP
And
Perl
And
I
Would
Of
Choose
Postgres
But
Try
To
Find
Yourself
Just
A
Straight
Up
Database
Theory
Book
And
Or
Maybe
Some
Like
Database
You
Know
Doing
Projects
With
Database
Yeah
I've
Got
A
Really
Good
Book
On
Databases
Here
Let
Grab
It
And
I'll
Read
You
Guys
The
ISBN
Number
Okay
I've
Even
I've
Heard
That
There's
A
Book
Called
PHP
And
Postgres
I
Think
Nat
I
Would
Look
It
Up
And
See
If
You
Can
Find
It
And
It
Should
Give
You
A
Pretty
Good
Identity
It
I
Bought
Setting
Up
Lamps
So
I
Have
Them
All
Running
Now
So
That's
What
I
Was
Wondering
Is
How
To
Integrate
SQL
Into
That
Well
Personally
My
Opinion
Is
Just
Start
Googling
And
Bang
Against
It
Yourself
That's
The
True
Hacker
Way
Man
Oh
Definitely
Yeah
I
Would
Say
At least
Start
With
A
Goal
At
First
Like
Think
Of
Think
Of
Something
You
Know
That
You
Would
Like
To
Organize
In
The
Database
Even
If
It's
Just
A
Stupid
Pet
Project
Where
You
Say
Okay
I
Don't
Know
Make
A
Make
A
List
Of
My
Friends
And
Their
Phone
Numbers
Something
Like
That
And
Then
Slap
A
User
Interface
On
It
You
Know
Try
To
Keep
Everything
As
Simple
As
Possible
And
Then
Just
Expand
On
It
Say
Okay
Well
Now
Maybe
I
Want
To
Put
Their
Addresses
In
It
Or
Now
Maybe
I
Want
To
Put
You
Know
I
Don't
Know
What
Kind
Of
Car
They
Drive
Or
Something
Just
I
Say
Keep
Belting
On
To
It
Until
You
Until
You
Kind
Of
Outgrown
And
Then
Start
With
A
Bigger
Project
Yeah
This
Book
Is
Called
An
Introduction
To
Database
Systems
By
CJ
Date
This
Is
Apparently
The
Granddaddy
Of
All
Database
Intro
Books
And
It's
Pretty
Good
I
Well
Let me
Take a
Look
At
The
Table
Of
Contents
Here
Because
There
Are
Non
There
Are
Non
SQL
Databases
Personally
I've
Never
Used
Them
Before
But
People
Always
Tell
Me
Oh
Yeah
There
Are
Databases
That
Don't
Use
SQL
Well
Yeah
Access
There
Is
A
Whole
Chapter
On
SQL
And
Then
There
Is
A
Chapter
On
Like
There
Is
A
Text
On
Relational
Databases
Database
Design
Transaction
Management
And
Further
Topics
So I
Think
It's
More
Of
A
General
Concept
Book
But
I
Think
It's
Important
To
Understand
The
Understand
The
Concepts
Before
You
Get
Into
The
Nitty
Gritty
Oh
Yeah
Definitely
And
I
Think
That's
Probably
What
I
Would
Check
Out
First
Yeah
If
You
Go
Online
And
You
Just
Look
Up
People's
SQL
Code
For
Different
Maybe
Forums
Or
Something
Like
That
You're
Probably
Going
To
Find
A
Lot
Of
Them
Don't
Use
Fancy
Features
Like
Transactions
And
Stored
Procedures
And
Stuff
Like
That
So
If
You're
Just
Googling
Around
You're
Going
To
Learn
The
Basics
But
Until
You
Get
A
Book
Like
That
Tells
You
You're
Going
To
Need
Transactions
To
Do
This
You're
Not
Really
Going
To
Get
A
Very
Good
Understanding
Of
Why
They're
Important
And
Why
They're
Make
Your
How
Did
I
Know
That
Was
Coming
Oh
Man
Come
On
It
Was
Just
So
Easy
It
Was
Just
Sitting
Out
There
I'm
Like
Oh
555
2368
Good
Old
2368
Yep
Nothing
Beats
It
Well
Thanks
For
The
Advice
Guys
You're
Very
Welcome
Matt
All
Right
Take
Care
Have
A
Good
Take
Care
Matt
Talk
To
You
Later
Bye
So
Another
Thing
I
Was
I
Was
Saying
Before
Hold
On
One
Second
I
Gotta
Get
Myself
A
Go
Snort
As
Cocaine
Oh
Yes
That's
The
Only
Way
For
Me
To
Stay
Awake
And
Get
Healthy
To
Do
Blind
To
Blow
On
The
Air
So
I
Thought
Drinking
On
Beer
Was
Bad
Enough
But
Man
I
Think
It'd be
Pretty
Fun
To
Get
Drunk
During
An
Episode
Of
Bin
Rev
Radio
We
Should
Do
That
When
We
Have
Nothing
Better
To
Talk
About
Bin
Rev
Radio
Totally
Smashed
Edition
You've
Never
Been
Drunk
On
A
Radio
Show
No
Actually
During
Freak
Factor
I
Got
Up to
Eight
Shots
Of
Tequila
But
It
Really
Didn't
Have
Any
Effect
Me
For
Some
Reason
Whoa
Okay
Now
I
Got
I
Got
To
Applaud
You
For
That
I
Stupidly
Ate
Beforehand
So
Ah
The
Buffer
Effect
Yeah
It's
An
Amateur
Mistake
Yeah
I
Figure
We
Just
Like
Not
Eat
For
Like
Supper
And
Then
We'll
Just
Go
And
Bin
Rev
Radio
When's
New
Year's
Eve
Maybe
We
Do
A
New
Year's
Eve
Let
Take
A look
Yeah
Is
New
Year's
Eve
On
A
What
Day
Of
Tuesday
I
Don't
Think
So
New
Year's
Eve
Is
Saturday
Tuesday
The
27th
And
Then
Tuesday
The
Third
Well
We
Well
We
Could
Have
A
Post
Christmas
Pre
New
Year's
Party
On
Bin
Rev
Radio
Possibly
We
Just
Join
Up
To
A
Conference
Bridge
And
Just
Have
Everyone
Join
Yeah
We
Could
Do
That
Yeah
So
Listeners
If you
Guys
Are
Up
For
That
Send
Us
Email
Yes
All
Right
Well
Getting
Back
To
Post
Res
How
Supported
Is
It
How
Supported
Is
It
Um
You know
Like
There's
Like
15
Basili
Discussion
Groups
And
Everyone
Just
Seems
To
Use
To
Use
It
Just
It
Always
Seems
So
That's
What
They
Use
My
SQL
And
Very
Rarely
Do
You
See
Yeah
You
Know
There's
A lot
Of
Web
Applications
Out
There
That
Don't
Use
It
And
I
Don't
Know
Why
Because
I
Don't
Think
That
If
Postgres
Because
The
Syntax
Is
Almost
Identical
Because
It's
SQL
And
If
You're
Not
Using
Transactions
Then
It's
No
Big
Deal
And
Even
If
You
Are
Postgres
Supports
So
I
Don't
Really
Get
Why
People
Aren't
Using
It
Now
My
Still
Has
A
Couple
Of
Non
SQL
Standard
Quirks
To
It
That
Might
Be
Tripping
People
Up
But
In
General
I
Think
That
The
Migration
Is
A
Lot
Easier
Than
People
Think
And
I
Think
It's
Just
You
Know
They
Don't
Want
To
Be
Bothered
With
It
You
Know
Supporting
Two
Or
Three
Or
Four
Databases
Is
A
Real
Hassle
So
I
Think
A lot
Of
It
That's
Interesting
I
Didn't
Know
My
SQL
See
I
Always
Hate
When
People
Have
Like
Proprietary
Extensions
SQL
Because SQL
It's
Standard
Query
Language
Standard
And
Everyone
Seems
To
Forget
That
Oracle
Microsoft
Apparently
MySQL
I
Apparently
Never
Went
Into
That
Yeah
I
Can
Actually
I
Assume
Postgres
Does
As well
Since
Everyone
Else
Does
Yeah
You
Know
Everybody
Deviates
A
Little
Bit
But
I
Think
That
MySQL
Does
It
In
A few
Places
That
Are
Dangerous
And
I
Can
Enumerate
The
Few
That
I'm
Familiar
With
Because
I
Just
Actually
Finished
A
Very
Large
Project
For
A
Customer
Involving
MySQL
Because
They
Couldn't
Be
Talking
Postgres
They
Said
Oh
We
Got
Red Hat
Enterprise
Linux
It's
Already
Got
MySQL
Installed
We
Need
To
Use
It
I
Was
Like
But
Why
And
They
Like
It's
Already
Installed
Didn't
We
Just
Tell
You
So
It
Was
A lot
Of
Running
Around
In
Circles
And
Hand
Waving
And
Paranoia
About
Oh
No
We
Might
Have
To
Install
A
New
Application
But
They
Don't
Even
Know
How
To
Use
MySQL
Yeah
Well
You're
Doomed
Yeah
Pretty
Much
But
I
Got
Paid
For
It
Already
So
It's
All
Good
That
Matters
Yeah
Pretty
Much
The
Problems
That
I
Had
With
MySQL
Were
Timestamp
Fields
One
Of
The
Big
Problems
Oh
Yeah
I
Remember
This
One
Okay
If
Let's
Say
I
Have
A
Field
That
Has
Like
Okay
Again
We'll
Go
Back
To
The
Address
Book
Example
Because
It's
Very
Simple
It's
Got
You
Know
Somebody's
First
Name
Their
Last
Name
And
Their
Phone
Number
And
We
Put
A
Timestamp
In
There
That
Says
When
We
Inserted
The
Record
Right
Well
And
Normally
If
In
SQL
You
Have
To
Specify
What
The
Timestamp
Was
Or
You
Have
To
Say
The
Timestamp
Is
Set
To
Now
Meaning
Like
Whatever
The
Time
Value
Is
Right
Now
In
The
System
Put
That
Into
My
Statement
For
Me
Or
You
Could
Specify
And
Say
Okay
Well
I
Inserted
This
Last
Week
Or
I
Want
To
Make
It
Look
Like
I
Inserted
It
Last
Week
You
Can
Put
Whatever
Timestamp
You
Want
There
Well
My
SQL
When
It
Has
A
Timestamp
Field
When
You
Insert
A
Record
Into
A
Table
It
Conveniently
Ignores
Whatever
You
When
The
Record
Was
Inserted
We'll
Say
First
Name
Last
Name
Phone
Number
And
The
Person's
Birthday
Right
So
I
Say
Hey
Bob
Jones
5551212
And
His
Birthday
Is
February
14th
1980
Right
Well
When
You
Do
That
Insert
In
My
SQL
It
Is
Going
To
Take
That
February
14th
1980
And
Just
Throw
It
Out
And
Replace
It
With
The
Current
Time
Stamp
The
Scary
Thing
Is
It
Won't
Even
Tell
You
It
Won't
Even
Put
A
Warning
Up
It
Will
Just
Do
It
Now
In
General
When
SQL
You
Know
It's
Supposed
To
Be
When
SQL
Insert
Something
To
It
Or
Is
About
To
Insert
Something
Into
Database
And
It
Doesn't
Match
What
You
Told
It
Either
Because
It
Can't
Convert
The
Types
Or
The
Data
Type
Can't
Hold
A
Value
That
Size
Or
You
Specify
An
Invalid
String
Or
Something
Like
That
It
Supposed
To
Stop
And
Give
You
An
Error
And
Say
Listen
I
Can't
Insert
This
Data
And
Here
Why
Because
Otherwise
You
Could
Just
Be
Inserting
Data
And
Not
Know
That
It's
All
Bad
Data
So
When
I
Was
Working
On
This
Project
I
Was
Inserting
A
Bunch
Of
Stuff
With
Time
Stamps
And
I
Noticed
Like
All
These
Time
Stamps
Are
Sequential
Even
Though
I
Was
Moving
From
An
Old
Database
To
A
New
Database
I
Noticed
Like
You
Know
All
These
Time
Stamps
Are
Not
What
I
Put
In
There
And
Sure
Enough
I
Looked
Into
The
Documentation
And
It
Said
Time
Stamp
Fields
Are
Going
To
Set
To
Now
No
Matter
What
You
Do
And
The
Work
Around
Is
To
Make
Two
Time
Stamp
Fields
Don't
Use
The
First
One
Because
It
Is
Always
Set
To
Now
And
The
Second
One
You
Can
Set
To
Whatever
You
Want
That
To
Me
Is
Just
Too
Weird
And
The
Fact
That
It
Doesn't
Tell
Me
Is
Just
Ridiculous
It's
Unacceptable
But
The
Problem
With
It
Is
Now
A lot
Of
People
Have
Written
Open
Source
Projects
That
Depend
On
This
Behavior
And
If
You
Take
It
Out
And
Upgrade
Then
A lot
Of
Going
To
Break
So
MySQL
Is
Stuck
They
Made
A
Mistake
In
The
Beginning
Everybody
Fired
To
With
Their
Mistake
And
Now
It's
Going
To
Stay
There
Forever
Oh
That's
Just
Totally
Brain
Damaged
Well
It's
Just
More
Hey
Let's
Work
Around
It
But
I'll
Fix
It
When
I
Have
Chance
And
Then
When
They
Actually
Get
Fixed
They're
Like
I
Don't
Want
To
Fix
It
Now
Yeah
But
Open
Source
Programmers
Are
Whiny
Like
That
Anyway
Well
Hell
L
Programmers
Are
Whiny
Like
That
Anyway
I'm
Sorry
All
Programmers
Are
Whiny
Like
That
Yeah
That's
Right
You
Actually
Adjust
The
System
And
Apply
A
Security
Patch
Or
You
Take
Someone's
Code
And
They
Compile
It
All
Up
And
You
Put
It
On
To
The
System
For
Production
And
Their
Bug
Comes
Up
And
It
Says
Well
My
Version
Didn't
Do
That
You
Must
Have
Done
Something
To
It
Yeah
Shut
The
Fuck
Up
And
Fix
It
I
Think
You
Have
To
Get
Just
As
Whiny
With
Them
I
Want
To
Fix
Now
It
Didn't
Change
Anything
Well
It
Should
Be
Working
Fine
Then
Shouldn't
It
I
Was
Just
Going
To
Say
I
Understand
Where
They're
Coming
From
There
Is
Such
A
Huge
Software
Base
That
Depends
On
MySQL
But
They
Just
Can't
They
Know
That
It's
Not
Standard
It
Says
In
Documentation
This
Is
Not
Standard
We
Know
It
It's
A
Screw
Up
You
Have
To
Deal
With
It
But
You
Know
It's
Scary
To
Just
Say
All
Of
We're
Going
To
Change
This
Behavior
And
Hope
Everybody
Does
The
Right
Thing
Because
They're
Not
Going
To
So
I
Can
See
Where
They're
Coming
From
And
Kind
Of
Not
So
We
Have
A
Very
Special
Caller
Apparently
So
Let
Me
Bring
Her
In
Yeah
It's
A
Her
For
Those
You
Who
This
Is
For
All
The
People
On
IRC
Apparently
I
Want
To
Hear
Jeopardy
Music
What's
Going
On
We
Have
The
Music
On
Hold
Yeah
So
I'm
Need to
Work
On
This
Whole
Getting
In
Here
Quickly
And
He's
Like
Asterisk
To
Have
A
Macro
Or
There
Needs
To
Be
A
Soft
Key
On
A
Cisco
Phone
That
Says
Join
Into
Conference
Ah
That
Would
Be
Nice
Yeah
After
The
Show
I'd
Probably
Like
To
Ask
You
How
It's
All
Tied
Together
Sounds
Interesting
Oh
Yeah
It's
Pretty
easy
To
Do
I'll
Explain
It's
Probably
Nothing
Like
Freak
Factors
It
Actually
You
Know
Works
Yeah
Behind
The
Scenes
It's
A
Little
Hairy
But
It's
Okay
It
Does
The
Job
So
Speaking
Of
Hairy
Let's
Bring in
Katie
Hello
Katie
Hi
Oh
She's
Actually
A
Girl
That
Or
A
Boy
With
A
Hormone
Problem
Yeah
I'm
Both
So
What's
Your
Question
Yeah
Go
Ahead
Yeah
So
What
Are
You
Wearing
I'm
Wearing
The
Black
Jeans
Black
Socks
Black
Shoes
And a
Really
Nice
Black
Collared
Shirt
With
Turquoise
Silver
Blue
And
Lavender
Stripes
On
It
Wow
You
Are
So
Gay
Oh
Yeah
I'm
Glad
I got
All the
Details
In
That
Too
You
Have
A
To
I
Thought
That's
It
Okay
I'm
Okay
I thought
You were
Going
To
Explode
Into
The
Fireball
Of
Rage
That
You
Were
Threatening
In
The
IRC
Channel
Oh
Not
Yet
When I
Hang up
I
Will
Okay
Alright
Have fun
Thanks
For
Calling
Bye
See I
Thought
That
Was
Actually
Going
To
Be
Far
More
Interesting
Because
She's
Like
On
The
Channel
She's
Like
All
I'm
Going
To
Boycott
The
Radio
Show
Blah
Yeah
Why
Is
That
Why
Did
She
Want
Boycott
The
Show
Because
We
Zygman
Rejected
Well
We
Answered
That
Question
We
Now
Know
What
Strom
Is
We
Yeah
Alright
So
We'll
Do
A
Quick
Mad
Dash
For
The
Last
Couple
Questions
How
Hard
Is
It
To
Convert
From
My
SQL
To
Postgres
Have
You
Ever
Done
It
Before
Um
Yeah
We
Sure
Already
Covered
This
But
Is
There
An
Automated
Way
Of
Doing
It
There
Isn't
Really
An
Automated
Way
Of
Doing
It
In
General
There's
You
Can
Use
The
My
SQL
Dump
Function
And
Then
Try
To
Import
It
Directly
Into
Postgres
And
A
Lot
Of
Times
It
Will
Work
Because
The
Data
Types
Match
Up
Pretty
Well
Again
Because
They're
Standard
Query
Language
Or
Structured
Query
Language
Everything
Should
Be
The
Same
There
Are
A
Few
Quirks
Here
And
There
My
SQL
Uses
The
Back
Tick
Character
To
Escape
Field
Names
So
Let's
Say
You
Have
A
Field
Name
Of
Varkar
Or
Something
Which
Is
A
Reserved
Word
Well
You'd
Have
To
Put
Back
Ticks
Around
It
And
If
You
Feed
Back
Ticks
To
Postgres
It's
Not
Going to
Like
It
So
Basically
Go
Into
VI
Go
Into
Your
Text
Editor
Find
All
Intenses
Of
The
Back
Tick
And
Replace
It
With
An
Apostrophe
Or
Double
Quotes
Or
I
Forget
Right
Now
Is
A
Little
Bit
Different
Index
Is
A
Little
Bit
Different
So
Your
Best
Bet
If
Your
Database
Isn't
That
Large
Is
To
Just
Dump
The
Schema
Without
The
Keys
Dump
The
Data
Put
The
Data
Back
In
And
Then
Put
The
Keys
In
By
Hand
If
You
Have
A
Huge
Database
You
Can
Try
Doing
The
Keys
Automatically
Sometimes
It
Will
Work
Sometimes
It
Won't
You
Know
There's
Not
Much
It's
Definitely
Worth
It
So
I
Would
Say
The
Conversion
Difficulty
Is
Low
To
Moderate
For
Most
Databases
All
Right
Windows
Capability
I
Assume
It
Supports
ODBC
Because
I
Use
A
Lot
Of
That
Work
Yes
It
Does
And
They
Do
Have
It
Running
On
Windows
I
Wouldn't
Recommend
That
People
Install
On
Windows
Not
Just
Because
I'm
A
Linux
Sell
It
Just
Because
It's
Not
It's
Not
As
The
Linux
Version
If
You
Want
Something
That's
Rock
Solid
The
Linux
Version
Has
Been
Tested
Forever
I
Would
Use
That
Apparently
It's
Been
Tested
Since
1989
Yeah
There
You
Go
All
Right
I've
Been
Banging
On
It
Since
The
First
Bush
Administration
That's
Pretty
Terrifying
Yeah
I've
Been
Reading
Stuff
About
All
Those
Crazy
Programs
And
How
Everything
Got
Started
It's
A
Book
It's
Kind
Of
Creepy
To
Long
Like
Talking
About
Like
The
First
Altair
8800
In
1979
I was
Like
Wow
That's
Like
25
Years
Ago
More
Than
25
Years
Ago
At
This
Point
Creepy
Very
Creepy
You ever
See
One
Of
Those
Things
In
Person
Yeah
I
Almost
Bought
One
An
Altair
8800
Yes
Wow
With
No
Cover
And
Absolutely
Covered
In
Dust
And
The
Guy
Wanted
Like
50
Bucks
For
It
Only
50
Bucks
Yeah
You should
Have
Done
It
Yeah
Well
It
Was
I
Don't
Even
Know
There
Was
Something
Else
That
I
Wanted
That
I
Wanted
Very
Much
So
I
Got
That
Instead
I
Saw
One
In
Pretty
Much
Perfect
Condition
Maybe
About
10
Was
It
10
Years
Ago
Yeah
Maybe
It
10
Years
Ago
A
Guy
On
The
Forums
Who
Goes
By
The
Handle
Tycom
He
Had
One
In
Perfect
Condition
And
This
Was
Back
When
I
Was
First
Getting
Into
The
Scene
And
Everything
Like
That
And
He
Was
Showing
Me
The
Out
And
All
This
Other
Cool
Stuff
So
I
I've
Seen
It
And
When
It's
In
Perfect
Work
Condition
It
Looks
Awesome
And
Apparently
There
Was
A lot
Of
Money
On
Ebay
People
Are
Buying
And
Selling
Them
For
A
Ton
Of
Money
If
They're
In
Good
Shape
So
Pretty
Cool
I don't
Know
How
We
Got
On
That
Topic
Old
School
Hackers
Working
On
Bush
Administration
Stuff
And
Just
We're
Talking
About
The
Old
Days
Back
When
There
Was
The
Bell
System
So
Actually
I'm
Recalling
Now
The
Time
When
I
Saw
An
Apple
One
In
Person
Oh
That's
Cool
Yeah
That was
A lot
Of
Fun
It
Was
Just
Like
A
Circuit
Board
There
Was
No
Casing
I
Don't
Even
Think
I've
Seen
An
Apple
One
Before
No
An
Apple
One
Was
Just
Basically
A
Circuit
Board
That's
What
They
Sold
It
Us
So
For
So
For
Those
You
Have
Been
Paying
Attention
For
The
Past
Hours
So
Not
Theory
Recommends
Running
MySQL
On
Linspire
As
Root
No
Actually
I
Recommend
That
You
Run
Berkeley
DB
Or
Some
Type
Of
Flat
File
Something
Or
Other
On
Windows
Preferably
Windows
95
Or
Windows
3.11
For
Weak
Man
Weak
What
About
DOS 5
You
Know
What
DOS
5
Is
Okay
But
I
Started
Out
With
3.3
And
I
Think
3.3
Is
A
Lot
More
Stable
Than
5
I
Will
Have
To
Drag
Out
My
Copy
Of
IBM
DOS
3.3
And
Run
Back
I
Actually
Found
A
DOS
3.3
Boot
Disc
I
Have
The
DOS
3.3
Thing
With
The
Paper
With
The
Box
Thing
And
The
Manual
And
The
Floppy
Disc
In
Back
Of
The
Binder
And
I
Found
It
In
My
High
School
Like
Just
Lying
Around
I
Must
Keep
This
That's
Pretty
Cool
I
Found
It
When
Did
I
Found
It
In
I
Was
Cleaning
Out
My
The
Bottom
Of
My
Old
Computer
Desk
Like
A
Week
Ago
That
My
Parents
Use
And
They
Were
Cleaning
It
Out
Like
Piles
Upon
Piles
Of
Like
Where
In
The
World
Is
Carmen
Persia
And
I
Got
Rid
Of
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
But
I
Kept
Most
Of
The
Games
Of
Course
Because
My
favorite
Was
Lemmings
Rocked
I
Don't
Have
Lemmings
But
I
Didn't
Get
School
Yeah
Where
The
Carmen
San
Diego
That
Rocked
Come
On
That
That's
True
Yeah
It
Did
Rock
You
Know
A
Lot
Of
People
Didn't
Like
It
But
I
Like
Where
In
Time
Is
Carmen
San
Diego
For
Some
Reason
I
Don't
Know
If
You
Have
Played
It
Before
But
I
Seem
To
Vaguely
Recall
Playing
That
On
Apple
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
I
Always
Like
The
Acme
Detective
Agency
That
Thing
With
The
Shit
Anyway
We
Have
Five
Minutes
Left
So
Five
Minutes
Ten
Minutes
Well
Five
Minutes
Plus
Closing
Music
Closing
Music
Alright
So
Yes
Linspire
MySQL
Root
There
We
Ideally
Postgres
8.1
There's
8.0
And
There's
7.4
And
All
This
Stuff
Out
8.1
Fixes
Actually
The
One
Gripe
I
Had
With
Postgres
For
The
Longest
Time
So
Now
I
Don't
Even
Know
What
To
Complain
About
Anymore
Oh
Well
You
Know
With
Me
I
Find
Something
To
Complain
About
No
It
Makes
User
Administration
Even
Easier
In
The
Sense
That
Instead
Of
Like
Creating
All
These
Users
And
Then
Assigning
Each
One
Specific
Rights
You
Can
Create
Like
A
Fake
User
That
Has
All
The
Rights
That
You
Want
And
Then
You
Can
Say
I
Want
All
Of
These
Users
In
This
List
To
Inherit
This
Person's
Rights
So
You
Only
Have
To
Set
Users
Up
Once
And
As
You
Change
The
Permissions
Of
That
Top
User
You
Can
Revoke
Or
Add
Permissions
To
Those
People
Below
It
So
It's
Awesome
And
It
Takes
Like
Two
Seconds
To
Set
Up
50
Users
Now
It's
Great
Sounds
Interesting
Well
I
Will
Have
To
Try
Postgres
And
I'll
Probably
Move
All
The
Apple
Database
Over
To
It
On
My
Backup
Server
And
We'll
See
What
Happens
I'll
Try
I'll
Get
That
I'm
Waiting
for
My
Power
Supply
My
Mother
Board
Announcements
2600
Meetings
This Friday
Prudential
Center
Philippe's
And
Where
Is
The
Do
You
Go
To
New
York
2600
You
Know
Man
Speaking
Of
Being
Able
To
Complain
About
Anything
I
Do
Not
Go
To
The
New
York
2600
Meetings
Because
They're
In
Manhattan
And
They
Start
At
Five
O'clock
And
By
The
Time
I
Can
Actually
Get
Down
There
It
Would
Probably
Be
Like
7
30
Or
8
So
It
Just
Doesn't
Work
Out
From
It
5
PM
Who
The
Hell
Is
Wrong
With
Him
Geez
We
Got
Natas
On
7001
Let's
Have
Him
Say
Hi
Quickly
Okay
So
Yes
2600
Meeting
Closing
Music
This
Week
Is
Evolution
Control
Committee
Rocked
By
Rape
It
Sounds
Weird
But
Really
Just
Give
It
A
Listen
It
It's
Humorous
Say
Hi
Adam
Natas
Put
Down
The
40
Natas
Oh
Hey
What's
Up
Say
Hi
Yeah
What's
Up
What are
You
Guys
Doing
We're
Closing
The
Show
Actually
Natas
Do
You
Have
Any
Shouts
Shout
To
Everybody
In
The
DDP
And
Shout
To
Zygman
For
Getting
Out
Hack
TV
3
Amen
What about
You
Not
Theory
Oh
Man
You
Know
I
Had
Shouts
And
I
Totally
Forgot
Them
So
I'm
Not
Going
Shout
Out
Anybody
I'm
Going
To
Shout
Out
Natas
Because
I
Know
Natas
Is
My
SQL
On
Inspire
On
It's
Phone
And
That's
Lee
Crazy
Shit
How
About
You
Strom
Who
Do
I
Have
Shouts
For
I'm
Trying
To
Think
Shouts
To
Shouts
Systems
Tech
In
Hawthorne
For
Hosting
Our
DC
2
And
3
Meetings
Alright
Shouts
Donatus
For
Being
An
Evil
Capitalist
Good
For
Him
Shouts
For
Not
Theory
For
Possibly
Making
The
See
The
Light
For
Post
Grows
So
At
Give
It
A
Whirl
And
See
What
The
Hell
It
Goes
On
And
Ruby
And
Ruby
Jesus
Chris
I
Don't
Want to
Use
A
Japanese
Programming
Language
Yeah
You
Do
The
Japanese
Are
Leap
Okay
Yeah
Shouts
To
Japan
All
Japan
Shouts
To
Sushi
Oh
My
God
Sushi
Yeah
See
That's
What I'm
Talking
About
All right
Closing
Music
Side
Of
The
Week
Is
W3
Schools
Dot
Com
Slash
SQL
So
Thanks
To
Kyle L
For
Pointing
That
One
Out
To
Us
In
The
IRC
Channel
Yes
And
We
Didn't
Have
A
Side
Of
The
Week
So
Congratulations
Kyle L
You
IRC
Stat
Whore
You
Get
To
Have
The
SQL
On
The
Side
Of
The
Week
So
Yeah
That's
It
And
We
Will
See
You
Next
Week
Same
Hack
Time
Same
Hack
Channel
This
Is
The
CBS
Evening
News
With
Dan
Rather
Reporting
From
CBS
News
Headquarters
In
New
York
Good
Evening
Danger
War
Killer
Fraud
CIA
Mayhem
Crisis
Horrible
Inflation
Military
Threat
Flaming
Debris
Fatal
Heart
Attack
Stress
Enjuries
Prison
Disaster
Economic
Collapse
Dangerous
Radiation
A
Tide
Of
Violence
And
Human
Misery
A
Liar
And
An
Unremorseful
Killer
Communists
International
Smuggling
Pipeline
Starving
Victims
And
Now
They
Die
Killable
Weapons
Carpet
Bombing
Deaths
Top FBI
Killed
And
Injured
Children
Police
Conspiracy
Negative
Attacks
Discipline
Sex
And
Drinking
Binges
Dying
Of
A
Heart
Attack
Dying
Of
Breast
Cancer
Dying
Of
A
Japanese
Nuclear
Bomb
Mountains
Of
Credit
Card
Death
The
Mountain
Of
Cocaine
Tons
Of
Cocaine
Atomic
Bomb
Radiation
Experiments
Unwitting
Test
Subjects
Dangerous
Radiation
Marijuana
Abuse
Hooked
On
Drugs
Time
For
Us
To
Bug out
Rock
By
Rape
Rock
By
Rape
Rock
By
Rape
Sex
Drugs
Rock
By
Rape
Nazi
War
Criminals
Cancer
Garbage
Murder
Caution
Terrorist
Castigation
Police
Conspiracy
Dramatic
Urban
Torture
Drunk
Driving
Hostage
Siege
Government
Shutdown
Collapses
Desperation
Despair
Deep into
Death
Criminals
Persecuted
Semi
Automatic
Handgun
Explosive
Gunmen
Killed
Tourists
Humeral
Victims
Racist
Massive
Lawsuit
Hostage
Ethnic
War
Cancer
Death
Rate
Fleeing
For
Their
Lives
CIA
Narcotics
Opulations
Hungry
Homeless
Frustrated
Terrorists
Spoiled
Unsanitary
Hard
Hitting
Illusions
Brutal
Bizarre
Critical
Bombing
The
Gang
Drew
Criminal
Anti-Government
Love
Triangle
Deeper
And
Deeper
Into
Damage
Even
Death
Anti-Drug
DEA
Worldwide
Band
Time
For
Us
To
Bug
Out
Rock
By
Rape
Rock
By
Rape
Rock
By
Rape
Sex
Drugs
Rock
By
Rape
Disgruntal
Conspirator
Attack
Killed
U.S.
Warplane
Went Down
In Flames
Crash
Gunned Down
Shooting Death
Blood Drops
Murderer
Desperate
Tragedy
Isn't He Dead
Death Penalty
Ransom Note
Forbidding
Notorious
Overwhelming
Communist
Urban
Punishment
Low Ethics
Extortion
And Murder
A Plain Christ
Set an Entire
Neighborhood
On Fire
International
Smuggling Pipeline
Make It Faster
Better
Cheaper
Help
Risk
Terminal
Murdering
A Man
Tough
Diplomatic
Hell
On Earth
Magnetic
Radiation
Fraudulent
Assassins
Mysterious
Murder
Chemical
Terrorism
Military
Targets
Fatal Christ
Danger
Freak Accident
No Known
Survivors
Wild and
Woolly
Semi-Automatic
Truck Bomb
Emergency
Anti-Fatal
Shooting
Rampage
Notorious
Negative
Police
Brutality
Fear
The Hidden
Nazis
Next Door
Marxist
Rebels
Serious
Murdering
Accidents
Problems
Purity
Damages
Like that
Negative
Heart-Wrenching
Controversial
Time for us
To bug out
Rock
Rock by
Rape
Rock
Rock by
Rape
Rock
Rock by
Rape
Sex
Drugs
Rock
By
Rape
Bug out
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For the CBS EVU's Dan Rappers
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