This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs with you in a fag pose
In your digital stance, getting firewalls ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero
In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
And a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I carved the fight between Un and Jay-Z
Cause CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just packed out Jones
And NASDAQ leaves your fight on your back
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
They're real fun
So it's a cold, I'm so red
Wow, hello, and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio
Episode 127
And was that just me or did the theme song sound really garbled?
Yeah, it sounded fast and then slow and fast and then slow
And you actually sounded a little bit garbled now too
So hopefully this isn't going to mess with the show
Hopefully no one's hacksawing my internet connection
That's not good
You could be getting owned
That would be very bad
So anyway, episode 127
Airdate 12-20-2005
I'm Black Ratchet
Strom's off somewhere in the greater suburbia of Los Angeles
And I'm here today with Not Theory
Hey, what's up everybody?
I'm very glad to be on show 2 to the 7th minus 1
It's pretty exciting
Ooh, yes, I didn't even think of that
No, it's very important
Yeah, well, this is our special Chris McQuantica episode
So we're just
Because I don't like this whole non-denominational holiday thing
So you've got to put them all in there?
Yeah, Chris McQuantica
I don't like to have the whole
What do they call it?
Chris McQuantica?
Or no, no
Hannah Chris McQuantica
That's what Virgin Mobile calls it
That drives me nuts
Okay
That's my own holiday
And plus, I think I like it
Because each holiday gets its own syllable
Or close to it
Most of its syllable
Yeah, most of its syllable
Kwanzaa's got its own whole thing
The whole ah at the end
Well, that could be any holiday, I guess
This is true
I think we're sure changing somebody somewhere
We're going to get email about it, I'm sure
Well, I guess we could have like
Chris McQuantica
Dan or something
When's Ramadan?
Oh, Ramadan's like a whole month, isn't it?
Well, yeah
But I don't think it's around the solstice
I believe you're right
You know, I don't know much about it
I guess we could call it a
Chris McQuantica solstice or something
Because you've got the whole druid thing out there
Oh man, it's too involved for me
Yeah
How about
Happy New Year?
Does that work?
New Year, yeah
That was good
I'm personally
Despite
All the crazy stuff that's been going on about this
I do always say
Happy Holidays
Because
I don't know why I say it
But
I say Happy Holidays
Just to cover everything
I'm good for redundancy
Because you never know
I was actually at a friend's house the other day
And his
Con ed person comes by
And is checking to meet her
And when she leaves
She says
Merry Christmas
But he's definitely 100% Jewish
So he just kind of started it
Like she was crazy
Well, I mean
That's an honest mistake to make
That's fine
I mean
I got
I don't know
No, it's not
She's evil
She must be destroyed
Exactly
She must be destroyed
That's why
I do the whole
Happy Holidays
To cover all my bases
And just to
Avoid
Annoying
Situations like that
Right
Well
You know
When the legions come
You won't be destroyed
There you go
Exactly
When the PC police come
I will still be here
Yep
All right
So
We really don't have much housekeeping this week
Besides the whole
You know
Christmas cost
So special
There's nothing special about it
I don't know
If you're going to actually do anything special
Santa's not going to show up
Halfway through the show
Oh
Either Hanukkah Harry
Or
Kwanzaa
Hanukkah Harry
Yeah I remember that
That was good stuff
That's what the little Jewish kids have
With their Hanukkah bush
And they have Hanukkah Harry
I'm good like that
They don't have
Chanukah Charlie
I just love when it's spelled as a C-H
I can't get it
Oh
See
And that's part of the reason
Why I never say
Happy Hanukkah online
Because I'm never sure
How to spell it
I'm just like going
I don't know
So I just go
And I just say
Yeah yeah
Whatever
So
Do you want to go
Go straight into the email theme
Sure
Alright
Hopefully this will actually play correctly
I guess that got off okay
You never can actually tell with the theme
Because it stutters anyway
So
You never know
We got our first email tonight from Mike
And he says
What's up?
Just checking out your old episodes
Nice stuff
I work for a large
Evil telecom
Won't state who it is
Because I try and control everything I do
Mostly out of fear
LOL
I have been working out of the SEC
The NETSEC for various places
Over the past five years
Work for the DOD
At the Joint Forces Intelligent Command
And other places
I am starting my public speaking projects
This upcoming year
At the 2006 Cybercrime Summit in March
You should see about speaking there
They're mostly forensic guys
But I wanted to speak
Because I know a bit about how
To get the data there
For the forensics
If you know what I mean
Well props anyways
On the show
Mike
And he actually
He's a certified ethical hacker
So props to him
And I just
Mainly because I put this on
Because we only have two emails this week
And it's
You know
We're scraping the bottom of the barrel here
I guess everyone has the old
Holiday season
They're not listening to the radio show
Or something
But I thought it was pretty spiffy
That he's working for the
Joint Forces Intelligence Command
Those guys are hardcore
Those are crazy
Very cool
Yeah
Yeah but
But I find it kind of creepy
Because a Fed
Has emailed the show
OMG
Hacks
Yeah
Zone my god
You'll have to explain that
Zone my god thing later
I honestly
I really don't know
When it started
Okay well
In any case
I just
I don't know
I just
I like it with the whole
Z in the front
Oh I think it's cool looking
Don't get me wrong
Yeah it gets to sound a whole
A lot cooler
I knew it actually caught on
When I talked about it
With my sister
When she came home from college
And I said
Yeah
Yeah apparently
Oh my god
Spelt with a Z now
Yeah yeah
I've been seeing that
This is the exciting
Conversations we have
Anyway Mike
Good luck on the talk
Shouts out
And hope it goes well
And I should have said
Where the cybercrime summit is
I
I figure cybercrime is pretty global
So you never know what it is
Especially since you're being a Fed
They have all those
Junkets out there
Going down to Tahiti
Or something
On the
Taxpayers dollars
Oh must be nice
Yeah
I should become a Fed
Just so I can do that
Seriously
Alright next email
This evening
Is from
I'm assuming
This is his name
Ostriches 3
I assume it's the plural
Ostrich
The Apple OS
On iPods
Is crap
It never works
Now
There is now
Linux for you
iPod
Check out
iPodlinux.org
Actually
She says
The slash
Main underscore page
But if you go to
iPodlinux.org
It's okay
Anyway
It continues on
It is not yet supported
For all generations
Of iPods
But it works
On the older ones
It's way cool
You can even play
Movies with it
Now okay
I'm gonna sort of
Warm up the whole
Rant thing here
Um
I've tried iPodlinux
Um
And I gotta say
You
Ostriches 3
You are the first person
That I've ever actually
Heard someone say
It's good
I mean the damn thing
Can hardly play MP3s right
I'm gonna quote from
Their wiki
Uh
Currently
We use Intel's
Highly optimized library
For the ARM processor
That includes
MP3 decoding support
The MP3 player
In Podzilla
That uses this library
Runs quite well
But it isn't perfect
Some songs will skip
VBRs unhandled too well
And high bit rates
Aren't always decoded
Fast enough
So
They say
Like straight off the bat
It isn't a good
MP3 player
But you know
Hey
Ooh
It runs Linux
Isn't this cool
Yeah
Let me enjoy my
$500 iPod
It comes to paperweight
With a
Show me a picture of Tux
Color me
Fucking impressed
Oh
You're such a cynic
Oh
I mean
You know
The whole thing
I
I did play with
When it first came out
And they had the whole
I mean
It is a breeze to install
Shouts to them
It's completely
Easy to install
And set on up
And
I mean
If you
You know
Screw something up
I
I'm not
Apple
It's released
Their own
Little iPod
Firmware thing
That you can
Reflash it
And get back
To the original
Operating system
And
Also
In their defense
They did state
That the
Fourth generation
iPods
Do
They're
They're better
Supported
Apparently
They have
Like a faster
Processor
They've got to
Need that
When they're
Decoding movies
Or something
So
Like
Better hardware
Actually does well
But in reality
It's
My opinion
That's
That's a
Horrid excuse
You don't
Toss hardware
At a problem
Because of
Crappy code
It
Just
Shouldn't
Be allowed
I
Have a
I have a
I had
A professor
At
At school
Who used to
Call anyone
Who would do
That software
Jockeys
In a very
Derogatory
Torn
I agree
Exactly
I mean
If you're
Making like
A thousand
Widgets
That need
To do
Something
And
Your code
Isn't good
Enough
To run
On these
Widgets
What do
You do
Do you
Sit down
And you
Optimize
Your code
Or do
You say
Oh you
Need to
Spend an
Extra five
Dollars
On each
Unit
To buy
A better
Processor
In reality
You're costing
The company
Five thousand
Dollars
So
What you
Should always
Be
You should
Always be
That guy
That can
Come in
And say
Well jeez
I can save
You
Five thousand
Fifty thousand
Dollars
Depending on
How many
Of these
Units
You're going
To make
Just
You know
Pay me
Forty thousand
Dollars
And you
Know you
Go in
You sit
Around
You go in
You say
Oh I like
To work
From home
And you
Sit around
Home
For two
Weeks
And one
Afternoon
You clean
Up the
Code
And then
You come
In and
Say
Oh I've
Been
Working
On this
For two
Treat you
As the
Second
Coming
Of
Jesus
They'll
Throw palms
Down when
You walk
Into the
Office
What about
Rose petals
Too
Oh yeah
I guess
If you're
Hindu
I think
Hindus
Do the
Rose
Petal
Thing
Don't
They
I don't
Know they
Did it
In coming
To
America
And I
Thought it
Was
Awesome
There
I go
Exactly
I think
You just
Want
Rose
Petals
In life
Yeah
That's
It
You know
That's
All I'm
Working
For
It's
Just to
Get
People
To
Throw
Rose
Petals
At
My
Feet
So
Anyway
That's
What you
Have
You
Have
On
Your
Resume
Objective
Get a
Job
Where
People
Throw
Rose
Petals
At
My
Feet
Actually
I
Just
I
Just
Wrote
Up
My
Resume
And
Sent
It
Somewhere
You know
Just
For
The
Hell
Of
It
And
I
Forgot
To
Put
That
On
There
So
I
Maybe
Won't
Get
A
Call
Back
From
Who
Knows
Actually
Honestly
Didn't
Put
It
On
There
I
Think
You're
More
Likely
To
Get
A
Call
Back
Then
No
Way
If
I
Got
A
Resume
Put
On
My
Desk
Where
It
Said
Like
My
Goal
In
Life
It
Said
Have
Rose
Petals
On
My
Feet
I
Would
Be
That
Is
A
Person
With
Vision
And
I
Would
Hire
Them
On
The
Spot
I
Don't
Even
Know
What
They
Would
Do
I
Would
Just
Start
Paying
Them
Well
That's
Why
You're
Not
In
Management
Position
Exactly
What
Did
You
What
Does
This
Guy
Do
Here
I
Don't
Know
But
He
Just
His
Resume
Just
Sounded
Really
Cool
Exactly
Actually
Talking
About
Resumes
So
We
Have
A
Logical
Thought
Process
Because
Hey
We're
Out
Of
Email
Because
No
One
Has
Freaking
Emailed
Us
One
Of
The
Software
Developers
Weblogs
That
I
Read
One
Of
The
Guys
Recently
Got
Let
Go
By
His
Company
So
He
Redid
His
Resume
And
I
Think
Right
At
The
Top
It
Says
Tasty
Attention
Grabbing
Headers
And
It
Says
Really
Good
In PHP
And
All
Kinds
Of
Stuff
That
Actually
Did
Sound
Impressive
I
Will
Admit
That
But
I
Did
Like
The
Heading
I
Don't
Know
I
I'm
Glad
I
Don't
Have
I'm
Glad
My
Resume
Is
Out
Of
Date
And
I
Don't
Have
To
Worry
About
That
Knock
On
Wood
Oh
Yes
Just
So
Everyone
Know
We
Are
Live
Tonight
However
Dr.
Zygman
Has
Not
Decided
To
Show
Up
He
Apparently
Has
His
Real
Life
We
Didn't
Actually
Inform
That
We
Definitely
Were
Going
To
Be
Live
Tonight
So
We
Didn't
Clear
It
With
Him
And
Because
Strom's
Not
Here
We
Have
No
One
To
Take
Live
Phone
Call
So
You
Can
Call
Live
Phone
Call
It's
All
You
Want
But
You're
Not
Going
To
Get
On
So
I
Apologize
For
That
Well
You
Know
That
Gives
Me
A
Perfect
Opportunity
Then
For
The
Whole
Show
To
Say
How
Much
I
Love
Microsoft
So
Get
Ready
For
It
Guys
And
Nobody
Will
Be
To
Call
In
And
Be
Like
Nope
Microsoft
Sucks
No
Tonight
Microsoft
Rules
You
Okay
We're
Going
To
Talk
About
Visual
Studio
2005
And
The
Whole
Visual
Studio
Suite
And
All
Kind
Of
Yummy
Fun
Things
That's
Been
Going
On
So
Actually
Let's
Talk
About
What's
What
Have
You
Been
Up
To
Not
Theory
Well
I've
Been
Working
And
Working
Some
More
And
I
Actually
Have
Two
Companies
In
The
Process
Of
Trying
To
Talk
Me
Out
Of
Working
For
Myself
Right
Now
So
That's
Been
About
It
I've
Been
Working
Giving
These
People
My
Resumes
And
Nothing
Really
Exciting
No
Personal
Hacking
Or
Anything
Like
That
Just
Doing
My
Usual
Thing
I
Did
Find
Some
Cool
Tools
This
Week
Though
Maybe
I
Can
Talk
About
That
For
A
Second
I
Have
A
To
Manage
It's
For
Managing
Either
Postgres
Or
Microsoft
SQL
Or
My
SQL
Or
Oracle
And
It's
Almost
Like
An
IDE
For
Database
It's
Called
EMS
And
The
Web
Page
Is
SQL
Manager
Dot
Net
So
If
You
Go
There
You
Can
See
All
The
Versions
And
Check
It
Out
But
I
Mean
This
Thing
Has
Like
A
Visual
Database
Builder
It
Has
A
Visual
Query
Builder
It
Has
All
Kinds
Of
Backup
And
Restore
Utilities
And
For
Procedures
And
Functions
And
All
That
Stuff
It
Has
A
Debugger
I
Was
Going
To
Use
Bad
Word
But
It
Has
A
Debugger
And
It's
Just
Amazing
Because
Normally
Debugging
Stuff
In
A
Database
Is
A
Real
Hassle
But
Now
You
Can
Step
Through
It
With
A
Little
Tool
And
It's
Very
cool
And
There's
A
You
Know
Something
I
First
Checked
It
Out
The
Other
Day
It
Said
Something
About
195
But
I
Started
Talking
To
Stank
About
It
A
Couple
Days
Later
Unless
Maybe
I'm
Crazy
But
A
Couple
Days
Later
It
Was
Up
To
275
So
I
Don't
Know
If
I
Missed
Some
Kind
Of
Sale
But
I
Think
It's
275
For
Business
And
235
For
Personal
Or
Something
Like
That
So
It's
Pricey
But
If
You're
Really
Into
Databases
And
You
Need
To
Do
Some
Serious
Stuff
It
Definitely
Does
It
All
And
There's
The
Linux
Version
Oh
Yeah
So
Does
It
Does
It
Just
Support
Oracle
And
Or
Does
It
I'm
Looking
At
It
Right
Now
It's
My
SQL
Postgres
SQL
Server
Interbase
Firebird
DB2
And
Dbisam
Apparently
There
Is
No
Oracle
Support
I
Thought
There
Was
Oh
Pwned
Ah
Well
Whatever
It
Supports
MySQL
So
That's
All
That
Really
Matters
Everyone
Should
Use
MySQL
Oh
Yeah
But
Actually
Each
One
Of
These
Things
Is
A
Different
Piece
Of
Software
So
If
You
Get
The
Postgres
Version
You
Don't
Get
The
MySQL
Version
So
You
Know
While
You
Have
The
Opportunity
You
Switch
To
Postgres
Now
So
You
Don't
Have
By
Two
Tools
Actually
That's
Kind of
Interesting
I
Would
Assume
That
They
Would
Just
Sort
Of
Roll
Support
Into
Everything
About
That
Yeah
You
Know
But
Then
They
Can't
Sell
As
Software
Yeah
True
What
Would
Be
Really
Nice
Is
If
They
Had
A
Version
That
Supported
Like
You
Said
Both
MySQL
And
Postgres
And
SQL
Server
And
I
Could
Tell
It
Hey
I've
Got
A
MySQL
Database
Convert
It
To A
Postgres
Database
For
Me
With
Just
One
Click
That
Would
Be
Supreme
Shizzle
Well
Actually
I've
Been
Finding
Out
Lately
That
Because
Of
All
This
Wonderful
ODBC
Support
If
You
Use
The
Microsoft
SQL
Tools
They
Have
This
Data
Transaction
Something
Or
Wizard
And
Basically
It's
A
Giant
Pipe
And
I
Gotta
Say
It
Is
The
Most
Useful
Utility
Ever
Because
Basically
You
Say
I
Have
A
Database
Here
I
Have
A
Database
That
I
Want
To
Put
Here
You
Convert
It
For
Me
And
It
Does
Everything
Automagically
I
Gotta
Say
It
Is
One
Of
The
Finest
Pieces
Of
So
Microsoft
Has
Ever
Even
Made
Whoa
Okay
I
Have
To
Check
That
Out
At
Some
Point
I
I'm
Not
Sure
If
It's
Included
With
SQL
2005
Express
Edition
But
You
Might
Want
To
Try
That
Out
It's
Amazing
And
If
You
Have
An
ODBC
Driver
For
It
Picks
It
Up
Fine
No
Problem
Like
Bam
It's
There
It's
Amazing
Wow
I'm
Sorry
What
Is
The
Actual
Utility
Itself
Called
It's
DTS
Export
Wizard
Or
DTS
Import
Export
Wizard
It's
If
You
Install
The
Client
Utilities
On
Your
Computer
You
Get
It
Wow
That's
Just
Awesome
Because
Actually
I was
Talking
To
Somebody
At
This
Company
Today
About
Doing
That
Exact
Thing
He
Said
Oh
Yeah
I
Could
Probably
Write
Something
With
You
That
Uses
ODBC
To
Do
That
But
I
Mean
It's
Already
Written
So
No
Point
Yeah
I'm
Not
Sure
What
The
License
Of
It
Is
But
We've
Got
Like
You
Know
Licenses
Up
The
Wazoo
For
SQL
Server
At
Work
So
I
Get
Pretty
Lucky
On
That
And
Actually
I
Now
Have
A
License
For
SQL
Server
At
Home
But
We
All
Get
Into
That
Later
So
Wait
Now
You
Can
Convert
Yaffle
To
Postgres
Right
I
Could
Not
That's
Something
I'm
Going
To
Have
To
Try
Too
Bad
Postgres
Sucks
Got
Like
Two
Days
After
Our
Episode
I
Was
Like
Okay
Let
Me
Go
Sit
Down
And
Try
Postgres
Within
30
Minutes
I
Was
Pulling
Out
My
Hair
Going
I
Just
Want
To
Create
A
God
Damn
Table
Yeah
You
Know
How
You
Create
A
Table
You
Create
Table
No
Yelled
About
Me
What
Is
Something
About
Like
My
Auto
Increment
Nonsense
Wasn't
Set
Up
Correctly
And
I
Was
Like
Come
On
I
Just
Want
To
Have
Something
That
Increments
Every
Time
I
Add
Something
Ah
Yeah
Well
See
My
SQL
Postgres
Have
Different
Names
For
It
And
My
SQL
Is
An
Auto
Increment
And
Postgres
Is
A
Serial
See
You
Just
Got
To
Email
Me
I
Did
Email
You
Plus
The
Whole
I
Couldn't
Actually
Convert
The
Apple
Database
Over
To
It
With
All
The
Utilities
Provided
Because
All
Of
The
Wonderful
Database
Images
And
All
Kinds
Of
Fun
Stuff
Like
That
So
That
Wasn't
Fun
No
Actually
We'll
Go
Back
Over
Here
So
We're
Talking
About
How
I
Got
SQL
Server
2005
I
Actually
Do
Have
A
Legal
Copy
Of
The
Standard
Edition
Of
SQL
Server
Because
This
Weekend
I
Actually
This
Week
Last
Week
Thursday
I
Went
To
The
Microsoft
Visual
Studio
2005
Launch
Event
And
Boston
Yes
And
Got
Gobs
Of
Free
Software
Basically
For
Showing
Up
And
Spending
Four
Hours
There
I
Got
A
Copy
Of
Visual
Studio
2005
Standard
SQL
Server
2005
Standard
With
One
Client
Access
License
Which
Is
Another
Nonsense
We'll
Rant
About
That
Later
And
I
Get
Whenever
Biz
Talk
2006
Whatever
Biz
Talk
Is
I
Still
Didn't
Figure
What
That
Out
I
Get
A
Copy
Of
That
So
Good
Shit
Nice
Yes
And
Then
I
Immediately
Departed
From
There
And
Then
I
Headed
Over
And
Then
I
Bought
A
House
On
A
Whim
Decided
To
Go
Do
It
Wow
That
Must
Be
Nice
I
Wish
I
Had
Money
Like
That
Yeah
I
Wish
I
Did
Too
Seriously
If
You
Ever
Want
To
Just
Completely
Drop
Your
Docs
Out
There
What
Is
You
Want
To
Buy
A
House
And
I
Mean
Thank
God
No
One
Knows
Exactly
Where
I
Went
And
Bought
A
House
Because
Boy
Oh
Boy
My
Docs
Are
Out
There
Holy
Crap
You
Get
All
Over
The
Place
You
Have
To
Sign
Your
Soul
Away
Man
It's
Amazing
Yeah
You
Get
Pwned
By
The
City
Whatever
The
County
Clerk
Office
Or
Whatever
It
Is
They
Have
Everything
On
You
There
They
Know
How
Much
You
Spent
They
Know
Everything
About
You
Who
Owned
The
House
Who
Sold
The
House
It's
Creepy
So
Yeah
That's
The
Other
Fun
Thing
I
Figured
The
Sad
Part
Is
I
Completely
Have
To
Go
From
A
Western
Electric
5e
Offered
To
A
Nortel
TMS
100
From
My
Phone
I
Was
Like
Oh
Man
That
Just
Sucks
Wow
You're
Really
That
Think
About
It
Yeah
I
Mean
I
Don't
Like
Well
Cause
Around
Here
At
Least
For
Us
Like
There's
All
Kinds
Of
Crazy
Stuff
You
Can
Do
On
A
5e
SS
But
Like
The
DMS
100
Doesn't
Support
It
Like
Ring
Back
Isn't
There
And
The
A
Anak
Is
In
A
Different
Place
And
I
Gotta
Go
Relearn
Everything
And
My
Local
Total
Tandem
Is
Completely
Different
Oh
Man
It's
Just
Like
It's
Horrible
I
Gotta
Go
Completely
Relearn
The
Network
Which
I
Guess
Is
Fun
In
It's
Own
Right
But
Still
You
Shouldn't
Be
Complaining
About
Having
To
Learn
Stuff
It's
Terrible
Oh
No
I'm
Not
Complaining
To
Have
To
Relearn
Stuff
But
I'm
Mostly
My
Complaint
Is
The
Fact
That
Like
Certain
Things
That
I
Like
About
My
5e
SS
Is
No
Longer
No
Longer
Available
To
Me
It
Sucks
Or
It
Does
Sucks
Or
Yes
Anyway
So
On
To
The
Show
Topic
Tonight
Which
Is
Visual
Studio
2005
And
Basically
We're
Going to
Kind of
Branch
Off
From
Just
Visual
Studio
And
We're
Going to
Talk
About
.NET
And
.NET
Compact
Framework
And
Spark
Cloud
And
All
Kinds
Of
Fun
Stuff
So
What
Is
The
.NET
Framework
Do
You
Want
To
Take
This
Or
Shall
I
You
Know
Actually
There
Are
Parts
Of
The
.NET
Framework
That
Still
Mystify
Me
So
Maybe
You
Should
Take it
And
I'll
Chime
In
If
I
Got
Anything
Exciting
I
Don't
Think
Anyone
Knows
All
About
The
.NET
Framework
Actually
I
Did
Find
The
Job
For
Me
At
The
Launch
Event
One
Of
The
One
I
Was
Walking
Around
And
One
Of
The
Guys
Had
A
Staff
Badge
On
And
His
Job
Title
Was
.NET
Evangelist
And
I
Was
Just
Like
Oh
My
God
That's
The
Coolest
Title
Ever
Wow
And
Apparently
I
Like
I
Flied
Over
And
So
Excuse
Me
What
Exactly
Does
A .NET
Evangelist
Do
And
He
Says
I
Just
Go
Out
And
I
Just
Preach
.NET
And
I
I'm
Like
That's
Pretty
Cool
He
Basically
Just
Sits
There
And
He
Just
If
You
Have
Questions
About
The
Code
He
Answers
Them
For
You
And
I'm
Like
Wow
That's
Pretty
Nice
Are
They
Going
to
Say
.NET
Religion
I
Don't
Know
I
Guess
You
Could
Say
Microsoft
Is
It's
Own
Religion
True
All
Right
So
Anyway
Well
I
Mean
The
Whole
Thing
About
The
.NET
Compact
Framework
Is
That
It's
All
Designed
To
Be
One
Unified
System
On
All
The
Microsoft
Platforms
Like
For
Example
If
You
Have
Windows
2000
Or
Win
XP
Or
Win
Even
Windows
Mobile
Or
Pocket
PC
2003
Before
.NET
Came
Out
You
Have
To
Worry
About
What
I
Forget
What
Does
MFC
Stand
For
Microsoft
Form
Control
Microsoft
Foundation
Classes
Foundation
Classes
And
There
Was
Like
You
Know
If
You
Varied
Between
Different
Versions
You
Had
Like
You
Know
You
Had
MFC
For
Window
Control
And
Windows
NT
And
You
Had
One
For
2000
You
Had
A
Different
One
For
95
But
When
.NET
MFC
For
And
We're
Preferring
Everyone
Go
To
This
And
Basically
It's
A
General
Way
Of
Just
Saying
Okay
I
Want
To
Create
A
Window
And
I
Want
To
Create
It
Here
And
Just
Everything
What
Happens
Is
Everyone
Knows
How
To
Interpret
The
.NET
And
What
That's
Done
Through
Is
Called
Something
A
Common
Language
Runtime
And
Essentially
If you
Ever
Downloaded
It
The
CLR
Is
Included
In
Something
Called
The
.NET
Framework
And
What
The
.NET
Framework
Is
A
Set
Of
Libraries
For
Each
Individual
Like
One
For
2000
There's
One
For
XP
There's
One
For
Windows
Mobile
And
In
2000
Is
Now
Window
In
XP
Is
Now
Window
In
Windows
Mobile
And
Actually
They've
Expanded
This
Well
They
Microsoft
Hasn't
Expand
This
People
Have
Tried
To
Expand
This
Over
To
Linux
And
You
Got
Like
You
Know
The
Mono
Project
Where
If
You
Want
To
Learn
More
About
Mono
We're
Not
Covering
That
Here
But
I
Believe
I
Cover
That
In
My
Twat
Episode
And
We
Just
And
Not
Theory
Just
Crashed
No
I'm
Still
Here
No
My
Phone
Just
Beeped
Because
I
Unplugged
It
From
The
Computer
Oh
That
Was
Your
Phone
No
Sorry
That
Was
My
Laptop
My
Laptop
Just
Beeped
Because
My
Phone
Was
Unplugged
And
I
Just
Walked
To
My
Front
Door
And
My
Front
Door
Is
Wide
Open
That's
Interesting
Because
I
Know
I
Got
Well
Anyway
So
If
You
Happen
To
Hear
Me
Screaming
At
Some
Point
About
Being
Murdered
Or
Something
Like
That
I'm
Probably
Really
Being
Murdered
Yeah
I'll have
The
Three
Way
911
On
Oh
I
Was
Going
To
Say
I
Have
Estrus
Hang
Up
On
My
Channel
So
I
Don't
Mess
Up
The
Stream
That
That's
How
Hardcore
He
Is
He
Just
The
Show
Must
Go
On
So
Okay
With
The
Whole
Yeah
So
Up
Until
Up
Until
I
Don't
Know
When
Exactly
The
Release
Party
Was
I
Guess
You
Could
Say
Like
Early
Mid
November
They
Finally
Released
Two
Things
They
Released
Visual
Studio
2005
And
They
Released
.NET
On
2000
They
Also
Released
.NET
2.0
Which
Was
The
Third
Version
That
Of
.NET
That
Came
Out
And
Thanks
To
Kyle
Lely
Also
Pointed
Out
That
They
Actually
Released
The .NET
Frameworks
On
Different
Processors
That's
Another
Thing
That
I
Forgot
To
Mention
So
You
Know
It
Doesn't
Really
Matter
What
Processor
He's
Using
It
All
Runs
To
The
CLR
And
The
CLR
Knows
How
To
Talk
To
Each
Processor
Basically
What
Microsoft
Did
Is
They
Did
Java
Correctly
With
Though
It's
Not
This
Huge
Hulking
Mass
So
They
Released
.NET
2.0
And
They
Released
Visual
Studio
2005
And
The
Three
Things
They
Really
Kind
Of
Focused
On
Were
The
CLR
Was
Much
Vastly
Improved
With
The
Whole
Various
All
The
Stuff
I
Discuss
They
Kind
Of
Revamped
It
And
They
Kind
Of
Rebuilt
It
From
Scratch
Or
So
They
Said
They
Really
Started
Trying
To
Focus
On
Mobile
Computing
And
Like
You
Know
Smartphones
And
Pocket
PC
And
All
That
Kind
Of
Stuff
And
The
Third
Thing
That
They
Packed
They
Tried
To
Do
Was
Smart
Clients
So
Now
What
Smart
Clients
Are
I
Personally
I
Think
This
Term
Is
Very
Stupid
Because
I
Been
Thinking
About
Smart
Clients
For
Years
Literally
Smart
Clients
Are
What
It
Is
Easily
Deployed
Client
Applications
That
Basically
You
Can
Have
It
Connect
I
Can
Take
My
Pocket
PC
Out
I
Can
Go
Install
An
Application
On
It
I
Can
Sync
Up
With
Database
I
Can
Make
Changes
On
The
Database
While
I'm
Offside
My
Cradle
And
Then
When
I'm
Out
Plug
My
Whether
It
Be
My
Laptop
Or
My
Pocket
PC
And
It
Knows
How
To
Fix
Everything
And
Take
Care
Of
Problems
That
May
Have
Arised
And
They
Really
Tried
To
Focus
On
Mobile
Computing
And
The
Executives
On
The
Go
And
All
Kinds
Of
Stuff
So
Yeah
Personally
I've
Been
Thinking
About
This
For
Years
I
Don't
Understand
Why
This
Is
Such
A
Big
Deal
Now
But
Whatever
I've
Been
Doing
This
In
One
Shape
Or
Form
Since
About
2001
I
Guess
It
Has
A
Better
Name
Now
It
Got
Market
Buzz
They're
Selling
The
Sizzle
Oh
Yeah
Oh
Yeah
So
Yeah
Those
Are
The
Three
Big
Things
They
Kind
Of
Focused
On
They
Also
All
The
G
Whiz
Bang
Features
Of
Visuals
2005
Which
We'll
Kind
Of
Cover
Later
Do
You
Want
To
Talk
About
Managed
Versus
Unmanaged
Code
Yeah
I
Think
I
Can
Probably
Well
I
Don't
Know
That
I'm
An
Expert
Maybe
I'll
Explain
To
Me
How
About
That
Okay
Well
Okay
Managed
Code
Is
Basically
Like
What
You
Were
Talking
About
The
.NET
Framework
And
All
Of
Those
Classes
The
Ability
To
Just
Say
I
Want
To
Create
A
Text
Box
And
You
Instantiate
A
Text
Box
And
Boom
It
Pops
Up
Stuff
Like
That
Unmanaged
Code
Is
Kind
Of
Like
Underneath
More
Underneath
The
Hood
Everything
Is
Done
More
Manually
Memory
Management
You
Have
To
Keep
Track
Of
Your
Memory
Management
On
Your
Own
Whereas
In
.NET
Code
Or
Managed
Code
You
Can
Allocate
Something
And
If
You
Forget
To
Deallocate
It
As
Soon
As
It
Loses
Scope
The
System
Garbage
Collection
Deallocates
For
You
Or
Garbage
Collection
May
Happen
Whenever
But
It
Will
At
Least
Mark
It
To
Be
Garbage
Collected
In
Unmanaged
Code
If
You
Deallocate
Memory
It
Is
Just
Going
To
Sit
There
And
Never
Be
Reclaimed
Until
The
Machine
Or
The
Device
Is
Rebooted
But
Basically
Unmanaged
Code
Let's
You
Get
To
All
The
Functionality
In
Whatever
Your
Device
Is
That
Is
Not
Neatly
Wrapped
Up
A
Perfect
Example
Is
Windows
Mobile
2003
Has
Pocket
Outlook
On
It
But
There
Is
No
.NET
Libraries
For
Pocket
Outlook
There
Is
Basically
Windows
CE
Libraries
Windows
Mobile
Is
Basically
The .NET
Stuff
On
Top
Of
Good
Old
Windows
CE
From
Back
In
The
Day
And
Windows
CE
Is
A
Way
To
Access
Pocket
Outlook
But
If
You
Want
To
Do
It
On
Your
Smart
Phone
You
Have
To
Go
Into
Unmanaged
Code
And
You
Have
To
Manually
Touch
All
These
Object
And
Deallocate
Things
And
It
It's
Pretty
Hairy
But
Basically
It
Let's
You
Get
To
Those
Things
You
Couldn't
Otherwise
Get
To
Now
In
Windows
Mobile
5.0
A lot
Of
The
Things
You
Need
To
Do
In
2003
In
Unmanaged
Code
That
There
Weren't
Managed
Libraries
For
They
Now
Do
Have
Managed
Libraries
For
There
Is
A
Pocket
Outlook
Library
There
Is
A
More
Straightforward
Game
API
I
Heard
A
Rumor
That
There's
A
Camera
API
Now
But
I
Don't
Know
That's
Entirely
True
Oh
There
Is
Okay
Because
I'm
Thinking
About
Getting
The
Trillo
700W
And
If
It's
Got
A
Camera
API
I'm
Pretty
Damn
Happy
But
I
Hear
The
Bluetooth
API
Also
Is
Managed
Now
As
Well
Mobile
2003
Bluetooth
Like
I
Wrote
Some
Code
To
Mess
With
Bluetooth
But
Let
Me
Tell
You
Getting
Visual
C++
Code
To
Talk
C
Sharp
Was
Not
Exactly
Straightforward
Once
You
Know
How
To
Do
It
It's
Fine
But
Right
Off
The
Bat
The
System
Of
Using
Embedded
Visual
C++
And
Visual
Studio
2003
And
Like
Trying
To
Hook
Those
Together
To
Write
An
Application
With
Managed
And
Unmanaged
Code
Is
Just
Really
Confusing
I
Would
Think
From
The
Start
It
Would
Set
Things
Up
The
Right
Way
But
There's
A lot
Of
Stuff
You
Got
To
Go
In
And
Do
Manually
Now
Visual
Studio
2005
You
Can
Write
Managed
And
Unmanaged
Code
In
The
Same
Environment
So
You
Can
Debug
Them
Simultaneously
Now
Unfortunately
I
Was
Just
Trying
To
Do
That
Before
The
Show
And
Actually
While
I
Was
On
The
Phone
With
Black
Ratchet
Before
I
Was
Trying
To
Write
Some
Unmanaged
Code
In
2005
And
It
Wasn't
Working
For
Me
But
The
Cool
Thing
Was
I
Was
Talking
On
My
Phone
With
Him
While
I
Was
Debugging
An
Application
On
That
Same
Phone
And
The
Application
Was
Crashing
While
We
Were
Talking
But
The
Phone
Was
Still
Working
So
I
Have
To
Give
Microsoft
Props
On
That
I
Also
Got
To
Give
You
Props
On
I
Do
What
I
Can
For
The
Show
I
Really
Wanted
To
Get
This
Thing
Working
So
That
I
Could
Attest
To
The
Fact
That
It
Really
Does
Wrap
Everything
Nicely
Together
So
You
Can
Write
Your
Native
Code
And
Managed
Code
All
Together
Debug
It
In
One
Single
System
And
Make
It
Work
Like
The
Way
That
It
Should
From
Day
One
But
Unfortunately
I'm
Having
A
Little
Bit
Of
Second
But
They
Tell
Me
That
You
Can
Do
It
But
In
Any
Case
It
Is
Really
Slick
That
I
Can
Debug
On
A
Device
That
I'm
Using
Currently
And
Not
Have
It
Be
A
Problem
You
Know
The
Application
Crashing
Has
Nothing
To
Do
With
The
Actual
Operation
Of
The
Phone
Unless
Maybe
You
Were
Doing
Something
In
Native
Code
And
You
Did
Something
Really
Nasty
And
Messed
A
Bunch
Things
Up
But
My
Function
Was
Simple
Enough
But
I
Didn't
Kill
The
Phone
So
Hopefully
That
Makes
It
Clear
Yeah
The
Cool
Thing
About
The
.NET
Framework
Is
That
They
Have
Everything
Sort
Of
For
Lack
Of
A
Better
Term
They
Have
Everything
Sort
Of
Sandboxed
So
That
Is
One
Of
The
Advantages
Of
It
If
Something
Goes
Wrong
It
Doesn't
Actually
Thrash
And
Take
Out
The
System
Very
Hard
To
Do
Something
Like
That
Right
Yeah
And
Actually
The
Only
Time
I've
Ever
Had
An
Application
Crash
On
My
Windows
Mobile
Phone
Is
When
It
Needed
To
Get
To
Some
Unmanaged
Code
So
The
.NET
Framework
On
The
Mobile
Platform
In
My
Mind
Or
In
My
Experience
Has
Been
Very
Stable
So
I'm
Very
Impressed
So
And
Plus
Like
I mean
When
We're
Talking
About
Unmanaged
And
He's
Talking
A lot
About
The
Phone
Is
It's
Not
Just
You
Know
Phone
It's
Anything
But
You
Know
He's
Super
Leap
With
His
Pocket
PC
Phone
I
Oh
Actually
No
I
Have
A
Smartphone
I
Have
A
Very
Simple
Smartphone
Actually
I
Even
Found
It
For
$185
Now
So
How
Much
$185
Unlocked
Wow
That's
Not
Bad
At
All
Yeah
Do
You
Want
To
Drop
The
Model
Right
On
The
Air
We'll
Give
Them
A
Plug
Sure
The
Model
That
I
Have
Is
The
Q-T-E-K
8010
And
There's
Another
Company
Called
Imate
That
Makes
The
Same
Phone
I
Think
The
I
Mate
SP3
I
Don't
Have
The
Link
To
The
Place
That
Has
It
Really
Cheap
Right
Now
But
If
People
Are
Really
Interested
I'll
Post
It
In
The
Forums
Or
Post
It
In
The
Show
Notes
Or
Something
Like
That
But
It's
A
Pretty
Good
Phone
Windows
Mobile
2003
Second
Edition
It's
A
Smartphone
It
Doesn't
Have
A
Keyboard
Or
Anything
Like
That
Because
It's
A
Smartphone
But
It's
Pretty
Slic
I
Think
It's
Got
30
Eggs
Of
Ram
And
Like
I
Said
You
Know
I
Can
Hook
It
Right
Up
To
Visual
Studio
And
Just
Start
Banging
Applications
Out
With
It
So
It's
Pretty
Cool
Yeah
I
Gotta
Say
The
Whole
Pocket
PC
Development
Or
Windows
Mobile
Development
On
Visual
Studio
2005
Is
Very
Slick
I
Thought
It
Was
Pretty
Good
In
2003
But
2005
They
Really
Streamlined
More
Than
A
Few
Things
I
Mean
The
Virtual
Smartphone
Really
Kicked
Ass
Yeah
Definitely
And
The
Virtual
Pocket
PC
And
All
That
Stuff
Is
Really
Definitely
Cool
And
You
Know
What
It
Runs
A
Lot
Faster
Than
Visual
Studio
2003
With
All
That
Stuff
So
It's
Just
It's
Just
Awesome
Mobile
Development
To
Me
Is
Really
Cool
And
Like
I
Said
2003
Windows
Mobile
2003
Missing
A
Few
Things
But
From
What
People
Tell
Me
Windows
Mobile
5.0
Or
Windows
Has
Everything
Wrapped
Up
All
Nice
Within
It's
That
Contact
Framework
2.0
And
It's
Just
Awesome
I
Am
Very
Excited
For
The
Trio
700
When
Is
Trio
700
Coming
Out
Well
You
Know
I
Asked
Somebody
At
Verizon
Today
And
They
Said
That
They
Didn't
Know
And
The
Website
Says
Something
About
It
Coming
Out
Early
2006
But
I
Think
I
Can't
Promise
But
I
Think
The
Trio
700
W
Is
Verizon
Phone
With
EVDO
And
All
That
Other
Chunk
And
I
Think
It
Runs
Windows
Mobile
5.0
Because
If
It
Doesn't
Then
I
Won't
Get
It
But
Yeah
Windows
Mobile
5.0
Windows
Mobile
5.0
Actually
Came
Out
Before
Visual
Studio
2005
So
I
Would
Hope
That
It
Is
At
To
Run
5.0
Like
I
Have
A
What's
It
Called
Axum
XV50
Something
Or
And
They
Have
The
Whole
I
Mean
They
Have
Like
It
It's
Running
Pocket
PC
2003
Second
Edition
But
I
Went
On
Dell's
Website
And
They
Said
Well
If
You
Want
To
Run
Windows
Mobile
5.0
Get
The
CD
Right
Here
They
Are
Charging
Me
Money
For
It
Which
I'm
Not
Too
Happy
About
But
They
Said
Yeah
Sure
Get
It
Runs
It
Fine
So
I'm
Debating
That
But
The
Whole
The
House
Thing
That's
Kind
Of
Cramping
My
Fun
Budget
Yeah
I
Could
See
That
Being
Props
To
You
Just
Had
To
Give
Up
My
First
Born
Don't
Have
Them
Yet
So
We'll
See
Who
With
That
Yeah
So
I
Didn't
Actually
Know
The
Trio
Did
The
EVDO
That's
Interesting
Yeah
Although
Allegedly
I've
Heard
Mixed
Reports
About
This
But
They
Tell
Me
That
It's
Got
EVDO
Support
For
Its
Own
Functionality
But
They
Say
That
You
Won't
Be
Able
To
Use
It
For
Dial
Up
Networking
Because
Verizon
Wants
You
To
Buy
That
$50
Or
$60
EVDO
Card
Yes
Verizon
Has
Struck
Again
And
Disabled
More
Features
I've
Heard
That
Verizon
Does
This
With
A lot
Of
The
Disable
Features
That
They
Think
Are
Going
To
Cost
Them
Money
No
Yeah
They
Did
That
It
Was
A
Huge
Uproar
Actually
I
Think
Stank
A
Bit
By
This
He
They
Bought
A
He
Bought
A
Bluetooth
Phone
And
One
Of
The
Things
That
He
Wanted
Was
The
Whole
I
Don't
Even
Know
What
He
Wanted
He
Wanted
Like
Transfer
Pictures
Or
Something
Or
Transfer
Ring
Tones
And
The
Phone
Just
Flat
Out
Didn't
Support
It
They
Neutered
The
Ability
For
It
And
I
gotta
Say
That
That's
Lame
That's
Like
I
What
The
Hell
Yeah
Of
Course
Like
You
Know
That's
Nothing
Like
The
T-Mobile
Sidekick
Oh
Man
Let's
Not
Even
Get
Started
That's
It's
I'm
Sorry
The
Device
Itself
Is
Awesome
It's
Just
Everything
Else
About
It
Sucks
Yeah
When
The
Trill
700
Comes
Out
You
Should
Definitely
Consider
It
Because
The
Trill
700
With
Like
A
Mini
SD
Wi-Fi
Card
Like
It's
Got
Everything
You
Can't
You
Can't
Beat
It
I
Wonder
If
You
Can
Do
I
Wonder
If
You
Can
Voip
On
That
Sucker
That'd
Be
Pretty
Cool
Um
Pretty
Sure
It
Shouldn't
Be
Should
Be
An
Issue
It's
Probably
Got
A
Pretty
Fast
Processor
On
It
Too
By
Like
A
400
Megahertz
Something
Like
That
Jeez
Mr.
Ratchet
You
Have
No
Air
Time
This
Month
But
Apparently
You
Transferred
Two
Gigs
Of
Data
Oh
Geez
I
Don't
Know
What
Happened
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
How
That's
Possible
That
Would
Definitely
Be
Me
Because
I
Would
Just
I
Would
Just
Have
The
Thing
All
Day
Streaming
Just
Garbage
Just
To
Get
My
Money's
Worth
Oh
I
Was
I
Was
Like
With
The
Side
Kick
When
I
When
I
First
Got
It
I
Even
Now
I
Mean
First
Couple
Months
When
I
Got
It
I
Was
Literally
Doing
About
50
Megs
A
Month
And
That's
On
A
Flow
GSM
Connection
I
Gotta
Say
I
Was
Very
Impressed
By
That
And
I
Even
Talked
To
A
People
Who
Had
GSM
And
I
Was
Like
Yeah
What's
Your
Bandwidth
Like
Or
What's
Your
Data
Transfer
Like
Oh
Yeah
I
Do
About
50
Megs
A
Month
Really
Like
Yeah
That's
Me
I'm
Hardcore
Like
That
I
Think
Yeah
I
Saw
Some
People
In
The
Developer
Forms
Bragging
About
How
They
Were
Doing
Like
You
Hundreds
Of
Megabytes
A
Month
Because
They
Were
Just
Downloading
Huge
Applications
And
Transferring
All
Kinds
Of
Stuff
Back
And
For
So
Well
I
Actually
This
Is
Using
Their
Pre
Canned
Application
Support
So
Yeah
I
Mean
This
Is
Pretty
Good
So
I
I'm
Leap
Like
That
I'm
Definitely
Okay
Visual
Studio
2005
So
Now
Okay
Let's
Just
Toss
This
Out
Here
Because
You
Constantly
Were
Talking
About
It
Before
You
Don't
Have
Visual
Studio
2005
You
Have
Visual
Studio
2005
Beta
2
Beta
2
Right
I
Got
It
For
Like
Five
Dollars
From
Microsoft
With
Their
Windows
Mobile
Evaluation
Kit
Or
Something
Like
That
And
It's
Good
But
I
Found
Out
That
You
Know
Before
We
Started
The
Show
I
Was
Trying
To
Do
A
Little
Bit
Of
Debugging
To
Like
I
Said
Check
Out
The
Native
Code
Debugging
Capabilities
And
I
Managed
To
Crash
Visual
Studio
Twice
Possibly
Three
Times
I
Found
Two
Bugs
In
The
Documentation
Like
Typos
Not
Just
Like
Silly
Typos
And
Comments
Like
Show
Stopping
Typos
That
Were
Not
Too
Easy
To
Find
So
Visual
Studio
2005
Beta 2
Has
Got
Some
Serious
Issues
But
2002
Beta
Yes
2005
Beta 2
Has
Serious
Issues
But
I
Don't
Know
About
The
Full
Version
Have
You
Gotten
It
To
Crash
Yet
I
Haven't
But
I
Will
Admit
I
Haven't
Been
Doing
Such
Hardcore
Stuff
As
You
Have
I
Been
Fiddling
Around
With
Pro
At
Work
And
I
Have
Standard
At
Home
And
Working
Here
And
Just
Like
Normal
I
Wouldn't
Say
Day
To
Day
Use
But
Relatively
Heavy
Use
Like
I
Been
Doing
Pocket
PC
Development
On
It
I
Been
Also
Doing
A
Couple
Native
Windows
Applications
And
I
Have
Run
Into
Any
Issues
With
It
When
You
Were
Like
Saying
Oh
I
Crashed
Like
Three
Times
I
Was
Like
Wow
What
In
God's
Name
Are
You
Doing
Now
I
I'm
Either
Just
Really
Hardcore
Or
Totally
Incompetent
And
I
Would
Probably
Go
For
The
Ladder
Nah
You're
Hardcore
You're
Just
Nuts
I
Never
Care
About
The
Whole
Ladder
Informer
Thing
So
Ladder
Informer
I
Don't
Know
Which
I
Don't
Even
Know
Which
One
Which
I
Just
Say
Whichever
One
Sounds
Good
Yeah
Anyway
Let's
Go
Over
My
Personal
Favorite
Features
You
Can
Go
Toss
Whatever
You
Want
Here
I
There's
A
New
I
Wouldn't
Say
New
But
A
Vastly
Improved
Something
Called
IntelliSense
Now
What
IntelliSense
Is
Basically
You
Start
Typing
Out
Like
A
Variable
Name
That
You've
Done
Before
And
It
Like
Says
It
Pops
Down
The
Bottom
You
Know
It
Like
Autocompletes
A
Variable
For
You
Can
Continue
Typing
It
Out
But
It
Says
Basically
It
Comes
Down
In
A
Very
Unobtrusive
Way
Says
Oh
You
Must
Mean
This
And
You
Can
Hit
Tab
And
It
Will
Autocomplete
It
For
You
And
Like
If
You're
Using
A
Certain
Type
Of
Object
It
Has
All
The
Function
Calls
On
There
And
Actually
When
You
Start
Typing
Out
The
Function
Call
It
Does
That
Autocomplete
Thing
But
When
You
Start
Passing
Variables
Back
And
For
It
Says
Okay
What
The
Function
Call
Is
You
Need
To
Int
Here
And
It
Will
Say
Int
So
And
So
This
Means
What
You
Need
To
Feed
Is
This
Data
Bit
Right
Here
And
It
Explains
What
The
Function
Does
And
Explains
What
You're
Supposed
To
Feed
It
And
What
It
Should
Result
In
And
It's
Pretty
Cool
In
2003
Had
That
But
What
2005
Actually
Came
Out
With
Is
It
Will
Actually
Start
Picking
Up
Stuff
Within
Your
Own
Classes
Like
IntelliSense
In
2003
Just
Had
All
The
Basic
Microsoft
Stuff
Like
Official
Microsoft
All
The
Documentation
Was
There
And
It
Would
Pick
Up
On
That
But
In
2005
If
You
Document
Your
Not
I
Wouldn't
Say
Correctly
But
If
You
Document
The
Code
The
Official
Microsoft
Way
And
If
You
Start
Doing
Various
Classes
It
Will
Pick
All
That
Stuff
Up
And
It
Will
Actually
Create
The
Documentation
To
You
On
The
Fly
So
I
Find
That
Really
Cool
One
Of
The
I
Actually
Thought
It
Was
The
Best
Things
In
The
Slice
Bread
Until
Someone
Pointed
Out
That
There
There's
Two
Ways
Level
Stuff
First
And
Then
You
Do
The
Low
Level
Stuff
And
The
Other
Way
Is
Bottom
Up
Which
Is
The
Exact
Opp
So
You
Could
Do
All
The
Bottom
Nitty
Gritty
Stuff
First
And
Then
You
Do
The
High
Level
Stuff
And
Personally
Myself
I'm
Bottom
Up
And
IntelliSense
Is
Basically
Designed
To
Work
Like
That
Because
You
Need
To
Have
All
Your
Classes
And
Your
Functions
Already
Written
Out
And
Documented
For
IntelliSense
To
Work
At
100%
But
For
Those
People
Who
Are
Out
There
Going
Top
Down
You're
Hosed
Because
It
Doesn't
Know
Jack
Crap
About
What
You're
Actually
Calling
This
Class
Right
I
Think
It's
Hard
To
Top
Down
Development
Sometimes
You
Know
I
Kind
Of
It's
Hard
To
Say
Because
I
Kind
Of
Do
A
Mix
Of
Both
Depending
On
What
The
Application
Is
Sometimes
It's
Easier
To
See
The
Bigger
Picture
And
Then
Kind
Of
Design
The
Functions
If
I
Need
Them
And
Sometimes
It's
Easy
To
Say
I'm
Going
To
Need
These
Little
Bricks
Here
And
I
Can
Build
Them
Right
Now
And
Build
The
Applications
It
All
Depends
On
The
Type
The
Application
Is
I
Guess
But
It
Doesn't
Really
Matter
Because
I
Only
Program
Ruby
Anymore
So
What
You're
Not
Doing
Ruby
Anymore
No
I
Said
I'm
Only
Programming
In
Ruby
Now
Oh
You're
Only
Programming
In
Ruby
I
Thought
You
See
That's
What
Microsoft
Needs
Visual
Ruby
Oh
Actually
I
Will
Drag
Myself
Off
Topic
I
Started
Playing
With
Komodo
From
Active
State
And
There
Was
A
I'm
Not
Sure
If
It's
Still
Up
There
I
Think
I
Posted
It
Out
In
The
For
Basically
It
Was
A
Free
Copy
Of
Personal
Edition
You
Couldn't
Do
Commercial
Application
Development
On
Blah
But
It
Had
All
The
Ruby
Stuff
Built
Right
Into
It
I've
Been
Sort
Of
Fiddling
With
That
It's
Interesting
Let's
Just
Leave
It
At
That
Yeah
I
Haven't
Messed
With
Komodos
I've
Been
Messing
With
Rad
Rails
Which
Is
Something
People
Should
Check
Out
But
Yeah
I
Just
To
Make
Myself
Feel
Complete
Yeah
Just
To
Piss
Me
Off
Hey
Yeah
When
The
Scene
Gets
Together
And
Gives
Me
Enough
Money
To
Not
Work
Ever
Again
I've
Had
Like
Two
People
In
The
Past
Week
Ask
Me
Dude
What's
Up
With
Bell's
Mind
What
Do
You
Expect
Me
To
Know
Talk
To
Not
Three
Yeah
People
Can
Email
Me
And
Ask
I
Got
A
Couple
Emails
This
Week
About
The
Bell's
Mind
PBX
And
Some
Other
Stuff
And
I
Got
On
Top
Of
Them
And
Fixed
Them
You
Know
Bell's
Mind
Is
Still
Up
And
Running
In
The
Old
Way
I
Thought
I
Was
Going
To
Have
Time
To
Do
It
And
Then
I
Get
Slammed
With
A
Bunch
Of
New
Projects
But
It's
Still
Up
And
I
Don't
Know
I'm
Hoping
That
I
Can
Get
It
Done
In
The
Next
Three
Weeks
But
We'll
See
About
That
I
Can't
Promise
Anything
This
Whole
Overhaul
Thing
In
A
Couple
Of
Weeks
Starting
At
The
Beginning
Of
November
Just
Sort
Of
A
Lot
Like
Microsoft
In
That
Way
Not
Theory
Likes
Microsoft
So
Much
He's
Following
Their
Release
Schedule
Oh
Yeah
Honestly
The
Rewrite
From
What I've
Looked
At
Really
Isn't
All
That
Hard
It's
Just
That
I
Need
The
Time
To
Sit
Down
And
Fiddle
With
It
Or
Not
There
Are
A
Few
Things
That
Are
Complicated
But
Most
Are
Like
The
NPA
And
Ex
Searches
And
The
Number
Submission
And
Stuff
Like
That
It's
Cake
I
Can
Bang
That
Out
In
Like
A
Couple
Of
Hours
But
It's
Just
A
Case
Of
Finding
The
Time
And
Just
Getting
The
Damn
Thing
Done
Ruby
On
Rails
Is
Cool
But
It's
Just
A
Whole
They
Want
You
To
Choose
Certain
Way
Certain
Things
Certain
Ways
And
I'm
Not
Figuring
Out
How
To
Work
Around
That
Or
They
Let
You
Configure
No
I
Totally
Understand
Anyway
So
Visual
Studio
Visual
Studio
We're
Just
Talking
About
Free
Not
Theory
Of
Black
Ratchet
Rap
About
Programming
On
The
Next
Pin
Rev
Radio
One
Of
My
Personal
Favorite
In
Visual
Studio
2005
Over
2003
Is
That
They've
Taken
All
Their
Object
Names
And
They've
Apparently
Actually
Put
Some
Thought
Into
Them
Like
For
Example
Even
Going
Back
To
Visual
Studio
6
For
Menu
If
You
Make
A
Drop
Down
Menu
You'd
Have
Main
Menu
Then
You'd
Have
Menu
Item
1
Menu
Item
2
3
4
5
And
You
Just
Keep
On
Going
Down
And
Down
So
Say
In
Visual
Studio
2005
I
Have
The
Main
Menu
And
Then
I
Have
I
Want
To
Create
A
File
So
It
Names
That
Object
Menu
File
Then
I
Create
A
Drop
Down
Menu
Under
That
With
A
New
And
It
Names
That
One
Menu
File
New
And
I
Was
Like
Oh
My
God
Thank
God
Because
I
Basically
Every
Time
You
Have
To
Do
It
You
Have
To
Go
And
Rename
Every
Menu
Object
One
Is
Really
Menu
File
New
And
It
It's
Very
Tedious
Yeah
I
Hate
That
About
2003
As
Well
Button
One
Always
Button
One
What
The
Hell
I
It
Just
Sucks
Yeah
When
You
Actually
Give
Like
You
Name
Button
One
Okay
It
Names
It
Button
Okay
I'm
Like
Wow
Someone
Actually
Is
Smart
Thank
God
Yeah
And
Actually
It's
Got
A
It's
Got
A
New
Feature
Now
It's
That
Well
I
Don't
Know
The
2300
I
Don't
Think
It
But
Refactoring
Code
Refactoring
Oh
No
2003
Didn't
Have
That
Okay
Yeah
Because
I
Haven't
I
Haven't
Seen
It
In
There
So
I
Wanted
To
Make
Sure
That
I
Was
Not
Crazy
Yeah
Code
Refactoring
Is
Great
Because
Even
If
You
Name
Something
Really
Stupidly
All
Over
Your
Code
It's
Smart
Enough
Where
You
Can
Right
Click
On
It
And
Click
Refactor
And
Say
This
Is
The
Name
Of
This
Object
Intelligently
Go
Through
Find
All
The
Reconcits
To
This
Object
That
Are
Actually
This
Object
And
Rename
To
This
That
Way
If
You
Had
Button
Okay
In
Like
10,000
Places
And
You
Want
To
Rename
It
Button
Cancel
But
There's
Another
Button
Okay
Somewhere
In
Your
Application
It
It's
Smart
Enough
To
Not
Get
Confused
And
Rename
The
Other
Button
Okay
Button
Cancel
So
That
Is
A
Real
Time
Saver
And
You
Can
Do
It
Pretty
Much
Anything
That
Anything
You
Want
In
Visual
Studio
2005
It
Is
Awesome
Yes
That
Is
Very
Handy
Especially
With
Me
Because
I
Constantly
I
Instantly
Forget
Like
You
Know
When
You're
Talking
About
You
Know
Menu
I
Actually
Missed
One
Of
Them
This
Actually
Happened
To
Be
A
Couple
Week
A
I
Actually
Recently
Discovered
That
I
Missed
Like
Menu
Item
One
And
My
OCD
Just
Kicked
Various
Function
Calls
Over
It
And
It
Just
Drove
Me
Batty
But
When
I
Sat
Down
And
I
Actually
I
Ran
Into
This
Problem
On
Visual
Studio
2005
And
It's
Like
Oh
Crap
I
Gotta
Rename
This
And
That's
Going
To
Be
Annoying
And
I
Said
Okay
This
Is
Now
Button
Okay
Or
Just
To
Use
As
Example
And
I
Said
Oh
You
Renamed
This
Do
You
Want
Me
To
Go
All
Through
Your
Code
And
Change
This
For
You
And
I
Was
Like
Oh
I
Love
You
And
That
Actually
That's
Like
One
Of
The
First
Experiences
I
Had
And
I
Said
Wow
That's
It
Right
There
That
Visual
Studio
2005
Is
Actually
Not
Half
Bad
Um
Yep
Yeah
One
Of
The
Cool
Things
About
It
Is
Another
Fun
Thing
Is
Partial
Classes
Because
I
Like
To
Keep
All
Making
A
Class
I
Like
It
Was
Fun
To
Actually
Keep
Everything
I
Didn't
Like
Keeping
Everything
In
One
File
For
A
Class
And
I
Don't
Know
Why
Some
People
Like
Doing
That
Personally
I
Don't
But
With
2005
And
I'm
Pretty
Sure
You
Can
Do
This
Straight
Across
The
Board
I've
Only
Really
Done
This
In
C
Sharp
Is
You
Can
Actually
Make
Something
Called
Partial
Classes
And
You
Can
Keep
Certain
Functions
In
One
File
And
You
Have
The
Same
Class
But
Keep
Certain
Other
Functions
In
Another
File
And
It's
Pretty
Good
It's
I
Use
Only
Once
And
It
Was
A
Very
Light
Tweaking
More
Along
The
Lines
Of
Hey
Let's
Go
See
If
I
Can
Actually
Do
This
Then
It
Looks
Very
Interesting
I
Will
Actually
Probably
Have
To
Use
That
A
Little
More
They
Actually
Came
Out With
Something
I
Guess
You
Could
Kind
Of
Say
This
Is
Visual
Studio
But
They
Actually
Have
Something
Called
Visual
Studio
Team
Server
And
In
Reality
It's
Essentially
It's
A
Combination
Of
Mantis
And
CVS
And
You
Know
Whatever
You
Want
To
Call
Or
Subversion
If
You
Want
To
Call
It
That
And
It's
Pretty
Good
It's
Got
Integrated
Bug
Tracking
And
Build
Maintaining
And
It's
They
We're
Doing
This
I
Never
Actually
Use
This
But
They
Did
A
Demo
Of
It
At
The
Launch
Event
And
I
Was
Saying
Wow
That's
Actually
Pretty
Nice
And
It's
All
They
Have
Like
Conscurrency
Management
You
Know
Who
Has
What
File
Checked
Out
At
The
Glance
And
It's
All
Nicely
Integrated
Within
Visual
Studio
And
I
Really
Can't
Talk
About
It
Much
Other
Than
What
I
Just
Saw
The
I
Don't
Know
Some
Executive
VP
In
Boston
Showed
Me
But
It
Was
Pretty
Cool
I
Was
I
Was
Quite
Impressed
Certainly
Beats
The
Crap
Out
Of
Visual
Source
Safe
Yeah
You
Know
I
Never
Had
The
Displeasure
Of
Using
Visual
Source
Safe
But
I
Have
Heard
Really
Bad
Things
About
It
So
I
Have
Never
Used
It
But
I
Admitted
It
And
It's
Not
Fun
Basically
It's
I
Don't
Know
It's
Essentially
What
It
Is
Giant
Shares
And
It
Just
Has
Some
Type
Of
Version
Tracking
In
It
And
Version
Tracking
Sometimes
Doesn't
Work
Too
Well
Or
Rarely
Works
At
All
So
It's
Really
Yeah
I
Heard
Somewhere
That
You
Couldn't
It
Was
Very
Difficult
To
Have
People
Like
Working
On
The
Source
Code
Simultaneously
Because
They
Have
To
Check
Out
And
Lock
Files
And
All
Kinds
Of
Stuff
Like
That
And
Where
Something
Like
Subversion
People
Can
Check
Out
The
Source
Code
And
They
Can
Edit
The
Same
Files
And
Merge
In
You
Know
With
A
Very
Simple
Interface
They
Don't
Have
To
Worry
About
Locking
Files
Ever
Really
There
Is
An
Option
To
Lock
Files
This
Of
I
Don't
Know
Why
You
Would
Ever
Use
It
No
Basically
With
Source
Safe
Merge
Did
Not
Exist
That
Was
It
Right
There
You
Basically
Could
Lock
Files
Or
Not
Thankfully
Enough
In
The
Application
That
I
Had
To
Use
It
Well
Not
The
Application
But
The
Instance
That
I
Had
To
Use
It
I
Really
Didn't
Have
To
Worry
About
It
That
Much
It
Was
More
Of
Just
One
Developer
Who
Was
Very
Annoying
And
I
Didn't
Like
Him
At
All
But
He
Just
Wanted
To
Use
It
For
Version
Control
So
Hey
More
Power
To
Have
Right
Fun
Hopefully
It
Won't
Break
So
Everyone
Knows
That
Visual
Studio
Is
Insanely
Cross
Prohibitive
So
Actually
Microsoft
Took
Its
On
Windows
And
Really
Don't
Care
About
Whether
Or
Not
The
Whole
Political
Behind
It
But
They
Just
Want
To
Write
Code
Much
Like
Myself
So
They
Actually
Released
Something
This
Time
Called
Visual
Studio
Express
Editions
And
This
Is
Actually
Pretty
Cool
I
Got
To
Give
A
Lot
Of
Props
For
This
Because
Basically
What
They
Did
Is
They
Gave
You
A
Trimmed
Down
Version
Of
Visual
Studio
That
Works
More
Or
Less
The
Same
Way
I
Mean
It
It's
Completely
The
Same
It's
Just
Missing
A
Lot
Of
Advanced
Features
So
Okay
Let's
Just
Lightly
Gloss
Over
Them
First
One
That
They
Really
Try
To
Push
Is
They
Like
Talked
About
This
Endlessly
At
The
Launch
Event
Was
Visual
Web
Developer
2005
Express
Edition
And
Basically
What
It
Is
It's
Kind
Like
A
Front
Page
A
Combination
Front
Page
And
ASP
.NET
IDE
It's
Nice
It's
Lightweight
Easy
To
Use
They
Want
To
That's
What
They're
Trying
To
Push
For
ASP
.NET
2.0
Applications
And
One
Of
The
Cool
Things
About
It
Is
It
Actually
With
A
Lot
Of
The
Express
Editions
They
Include
Stuff
Called
Starter
Kits
And
That's
Like
Pre
Canned
Samples
Of
Certain
Things
You
Can
Actually
Download
Some
Off
Their
Website
Like
They
Have
A
Like
A
The
One
They
Actually
Demoed
Was
A
Banned
Fan
Site
For
Some
Reason
And
Everything
Is
Actually
They're
Trying
To
Really
Pushed
You
Can
Do
Integrated
E
Commerce
On
This
Of
Course
I'm
Not
Really
Sure
If
I
Just
Want
To
Do
E
Commerce
On
Microsoft
We
Won't
Get
Into
That
They
Have
All
The
Like
The
Starter
Kit
And
All
The
Things
Have
A
Nice
Integrated
Web
Server
In
Them
Which
Is
A
Big
Thing
Because
You
Do
Not
Need
To
Install
IIS
On
Your
Desktop
Oh
Thank
God
Because
I
Think
I
The
Three
Times
That
Like
I've
Seen
IIS
Installed
On
A
Desktop
It's
Usually
Been
A
Factor
In
Some
Type
Of
Virus
Attack
Like
Always
Yeah
Or
I've
Seen
It
In
Quite
A
Few
Times
Where
It's
Just
It
Destroys
The
Machine
I
Mean
The
Performance
Just
Goes
To
Hell
So
It
Might
As
Well
Be
Fire
Well
Hello
Microsoft
Product
Serif
Iris
We
Won't
Get
Into
That
Um
The
Other
Interesting
Thing
I
Actually
Haven't
Fooled
Around
With
This
But
They
Have
Something
Called
SQL
Server
Express
Edition
And
It's
Basically
A
Really
Toned
Down
Version
Of
SQL
Server
Like
You
Don't
Have
All
Their
Business
Logic
And
All
Their
Stuff
Out
There
It's
Oh
I'm
Not
Sure
If
I
Mention
This
All
Of
These
Are
Free
To
Download
And
We'll
The
Free
Has
A
Caveat
But
We'll
Get
Into
This
Later
Um
They
Also
Have
All
The
Different
IDs
They
Have
Visual
Basic
2005
Express
Um
Basically
It's
For
You
Ninnies
Out
There
Who
Want
To
Say
Oh
I'm
Not
Cool
Enough
To
Develop
On
C
Sharp
You
Can
Use
Your
Wimpy
Ass
Visual
Basic
Um
Then
There's
Visual
C Sharp
2005
Express
And
Um
Personally
For
Those
Of
You
Who
Don't
Know
I
Like
C
Sharp
C
Sharp
Is
A
Very
Yummy
Blend
Of
Java
And
C
Plus
And
I
I'm
Going
To
Go
Out
And
Say
I
Think
Microsoft
Might
Have
Gotten
The
Language
Right
Yeah
Actually
I
Agree
And
If
You're
Using
Visual
Basic
And
You
Want
To
Convert
To
C
Sharp
It's
Really
Not
That
Hard
I
Converted
Like
A
Thousand
Or
Two
Thousand
Lines
To
Code
From
Visual
Basic
Definite
To
C
Sharp
In
No
Time
It's
Just
A
Joke
And
Once
You
Get
Used
To
The
C
Sharp
Syntax
I
Think
You'd
Be
Addicted
To
It
Because
It's
A
Lot
More
Clear
It's
Got
A
Lot
Less
Of
The
You
Know
English
Like
Dim
This
Variable
As
Like
This
Variable
Is
This
Type
It's
Just
That
Simple
Visual
Basic
In
My
Mind
Is
Too
Wordy
It
Tries
To
Make
It
Look
Too
Much
Like
English
And
In
That
It
Makes
Itself
Just
Awkward
And
Terrible
To
Use
I
Personally
Can't
And
I
Don't
Know
Why
Anybody
Who
Starting
Programming
Would
Think
Like
Visual
Base
Is
Good
Thing
To
Do
C
Sharp
Like
You
Said
Java
And
C
Plus
Together
And
It
Uses
.NET
Framework
So
It's
All
The
Code
Is
Managed
And
It
Does
Garbage
Collection
And
All
That
Other
Fun
Stuff
So
I
Mean
You
Can't
You
Can't
Go
Wrong
With
It
I
Personally
I
Don't
I
I'm
Not
A
Fan
Of
Java
But
We
Won't
Get
Into
That
I
Don't
Know
I
Just
Don't
Like
I
Mean
That's
Why
I
Like
C
Sharp
Is
Java
Like
I
Like
The
Concept
Of
Java
I
Just
Don't
Like
The
Implementation
Of
It
I
Don't
Like
Java
Either
So
I'm
With
You
On
That
One
I
Used
J2ME
For
A
Little
While
Because
It
Was
The
Only
Thing
I
Could
Use
To
Develop
On
Phone
But
Now
That
I
Can
Use
C
Sharp
To
Develop
On
Phone
I
There's
No
Reason
I
Would
Ever
Want
Use
Java
Again
I
Think
It's
Trash
So
There's
Also
Visual
C++
2005
Express
And
For
Those
Of
You
Who
Want
To
Just
Do
C++
Development
On
Windows
I
Actually
Haven't
Used
This
I
Don't
Know
How
It
Actually
Fits
In
The
Whole
.NET
Architecture
Scheme
Of
Things
I
Think
Most
Of
The
Visual
C++
Stuff
Is
Just
To
Develop
Native
Unmanaged
Code
Yeah
That's
What
I
Would
Think
But
I
Haven't
Used
It
So
I
Don't
Know
There's
Also
Visual
J
Sharp
And
I
Really
I
Don't
Understand
Why
They
Have
This
I
Don't
Understand
At
All
It's
Java
But
It's
Java
With
.NET
And
It
Has
Nice
Little
Ties
With
.NET
Framework
And
I
Actually
Started
Thinking
About
It
On
The
Ride
Home
After
I
Wrote
Out
All
My
Notes
About
J
Sharp
And
I
Finally
Actually
Came
To
The
Whole
Computer
Science
Curriculum
Because
Apparently
Computer
Science
People
Are
Java
For
Some
Unknown
Reason
But
We
Don't
Get
Into
That
I
Don't
Really
Get
It
Yeah
I
Don't
Understand
I
Cut
My
Teeth
On
C
Plus
And
C
Plus
Was
Very
Much
A
Learning
Experience
And
I
Not
Saying
That
In
A
Bad
Way
But
Whatever
So
Yeah
I
Don't
Really
Don't
Know
Why
They
Use
It
I
Guess
There
Might
Be
One
Person
In
India
Who
Might
Develop
On
It
But
I
Really
Don't
Know
So
We're
Always
Talking
About
Express
Editions
So
What's
The
Major
Difference
Here
The
Express
Editions
What
They're
Saying
Is
It's
Designed
For
Hobbyists
Students
Novice
Developers
But
Really
Even
If
You're
Not
A
Novice
As
Long
As
You
Don't
Need
One
Of
The
Things
That
Are
Missing
Out
Of
It
Like
For
Example
If
You're
Doing
Pocket
PC
Development
You
Need
The
Full
Version
Of
Visual
Studio
None
Of
That
Stuff
Is
Included
With
Visual
Studio
Express
And
The
Express
Edition
So
When I
Got
My
Copy
That
That's
Basically
The
So
Reason
Why
I
Signed
Up
For
The
Launch
Med
Because
I
Wanted
Standard
Edition
For
Free
So
I
Could
Do
Pocket
PC
Development
Like
SQL
Server
Express
I
Really
Don't
Know
What
The
Big
Deal
Is
About
It
I
Looked
At
It
As
Basically
It's
Something
You
Can
Install
Locally
On
Your
PC
In
Case
You
Don't
Have
A
SQL
Server
Directly
To
Access
Like
On
Your
Laptop
Or
Something
But
Yeah
Whatever
They're
Really
Designed
Just
For
People
Who
Want
To
Learn
About
It
But
Don't
Really
Want
To
Feel
Like
Shelling
Out
$350
For
A
Full
Copy
Of
Visual
Studio
So
We
Said
Earlier
That
They
Are
Free
Now
This
Has
A
Little
Bit
Of
Caveat
On
It
What
They
Were
Originally
Going
To
Do
Is
They
Were
Going
To
Announce
Visual
Would
Be
$50
But
When
They
Released
It
They
Actually
Oh
Yeah
They
Released
Everything
Got
Released
November
6th
In
My
Notes
That's
What
I
Was
And
It's
Free
Until
November
6th
2006
But
My
Personal
Idea
Is
That
It's
Going
To
Be
Free
Forever
I
Mean
Because
Who
Really
Who
Is
Going
To
Actually
Start
Paying
$50
For
This
After
It's
Been
Free
For
A
Year
So
I'm
Really
Going
To
Think
Like
Right
Around
October
They're
Going
To
Say
Oh
Really
Yeah
We're
Not
Going
To
Actually
Start
Charging
Money
For
This
But
Of
Course
They
Could
Be
Stupid
And
Actually
Do
It
But
Personally
I
Don't
See
It
Happening
Also
They
Make
A
Thing
Here
With
The
Visual
Not
The
SQL
Surfer
Express
Edition
Is
Completely
Different
From
This
So
Lord
Only
Knows
So
Whatever
That
Is
You
Can
Actually
You
Can
Grab
All
These
Right
Off
The
Microsoft
Website
And
I
Actually
Had
Trouble
Finding
The
Starter
Kit
So
I'm
Going
To
Just
Toss
This
URL
Out
Here
It's
MSDN
Dot
Microsoft
Dot
Com
Slash
V
Studio
And
That's
The
URL
For
The
Visual
Studio
Stuff
And
There's
Also
Same
URL
Slash
V
Studio
And
If
You
Go
To
Slash
Downloads
Slash
Starter
Kits
And
That's
All
The
Free
Stuff
They
Give
You
To
Start
Off
With
Like
A
Bunch
A ton
Of
Samples
They
Actually
One
Of
The
Questions
In
Their
FAC
Is
Why
Are
There
No
Starter
Kits
For
C
Plus
And
They
Said
Well
We
Really
Don't
Have
Anything
So
I
So
I
Guess
That's
The
Kind
Of
A
Sign
That
Visual
C
Plus
Is
Kind
Of
On
Its
Way
Out
As
They
Move
All
Of
The
Not
All
Of
The
Libraries
But
Most
Of
The
Libraries
From
Native
To
Manage
I
Think
That
C
Plus
Is
Going
To
Disappear
There
Are
Still
Going
To
Be
Some
Things
You
Need
To
Do
In
Native
Code
But
I
Think
Its
Role
Is
Going
To
Be
Greatly
Reduced
In
Microsoft
Development
I
For
See
It
Actually
Going
I
Mean
You're
Always
Going
To
Need
To
Do
Stuff
In
C
Plus
Saying
That
C
Plus
Is
Dead
Is
Just
Sad
Hey
I
Checked
This
Starter
Kit
Thing
That
You
Just
I
Just
Checked
It
Out
They
Have
A
Mobile
Ink
To
Do
Starter
Kit
Like
An
Application
That
You
Can
Use
Your
Pen
On
Your
Tablet
PC
And
All
Kinds
Of
Cool
Stuff
Man
This
Is
Awesome
I
Actually
Just
Got
A
Tablet
PC
Some
Of
Us
Don't
Have
Tablet
PC
You
Moron
This
Machine
Was
Not
Really
That
Expensive
And
It
Is
A
Gateway
So
It
Junk
So
Don't
Be
Jealous
So
How
Much
Was
I
Think
It
Was
It
Was
1400
All
Sold
But
They
Have
It
Now
I
Think
For
1250
They
Keep
Going
On
Sale
And
Off
Sale
Off
Sale
So
Should
Be
Between
1250
And
1400
Now
But
It
Is
Nice
And
The
Battery
Life
Is
Really
Long
And
The
Screen
Is
Great
And
I
Think
This
Machine
Is
Awesome
I
Say
It
Junk
Because
It
The
Gateway
Because
It
Funny
To
Say
But
It
Is
Actually
A
Pretty
Good
Machine
Gateway
Used
To
Make
Solid
Machines
But
Then
They
Like
Started
Losing
Money
And
I
I'm
Actually
Kind
Of
Surprised
That
They
Still
Even
Making
Machines
I
Really
Don't
See
Them
Advertised
Or
Even
Really
Even
Think
About
Them
Yeah
I
Wasn't
Even
Aware
That
They
Existed
Either
I
Wasn't
Aware
That
They
Still
Existed
Either
I
Was
Just
Searching
For
Tablet
PCs
And
On
Google
AdWords
Like
An
Ad
For
The
Gateway
PC
Came
Up
That's
Not
Bad
It's
Not
A
Tablet
It's
A
Convertible
It's
Both
Tablet
And
The
Laptop
So
It's
All
That's
Something
I
Would
Like
To
Go
For
Yeah
There's
Solo
Editions
Those
Are
Pretty
Hot
Back
In
Like
1998
Or
So
Those
Are
Pretty
Good
Nice
Solid
PCs
Not
As
Good
Think
Pads
But
We
Won't
Get
Into
That
Yeah
So
Is
There
Anything
That
I
Really
Didn't
Cover
With
The
Whole
Visual
Studio
No
I'm
Trying
To
Think
No
I
Mean
I
Mean
Probably
Some
Nitty
Gritty
Details
Of
Like
Exact
Limitations
Of
SQL
Server
Express
I
Used
To
Know
What
They
Were
And
I
Don't
Know
What
They
Are
Anymore
I
Can't
Really
Think
Of
Anything
Else
I
Got
Actually
A
Question
For
You
About
This
So
I
Had
This
Visual
Studio
2005
Beta
2
Copy
Am
I
Eligible
For
An
Upgrade
To
Visual
Studio
Full
Like
Not
Full
But
Visual
Studio
Standard
Because
I
Know
That
There's
A
Standard
Edition
Upgrade
One
300
One
200
So
How
Do
I
Find
Out
If
I'm
Eligible
I
Really
Don't
Know
I
Think
Actually
The
Upgrade
To
Visual
Studio
2003
If
You
Have
The
Beta
You're
Hosed
Really
Yeah
That's
Terrible
Basically
I'll toss
This out
Here
If
You're
Interested
And if
You can
Go to
One of
Your
Launch
Events
I think
There's
Still
Like
Three
Or
Four
Left
On
The
West
Coast
If
You
Want
To
Go
To
A
Launch
Event
You
Will
Get
A
Free
Copy
Of
Visual
Studio
2005
SQL
Server
2005
And
Biz
Talk
2006
When
It
Comes
Out
Along
With
Like
You
Know
I
Got
Like
A
Bag
Of
Swag
And
They
Have
Like
The
Windows
2003
Server
Standard
Edition
Like
180
Day
Trial
And
They
Got
Some
Crazy
Stuff
On
There
I
Got
A
180
Day
Trial
That
I
Want
But
It
Never
Expired
I
Couldn't
Figure
That
Yeah
Crap
I
Might
Have
To
Install
This
Then
I
Still
Running
My
Whole
Educational
Copy
Of
Windows
2000
That
I
Picked
Up
When
I
Was
In
College
Which
Technically
I
Asked
The
Microsoft
Guy
Point
Blank
When
I
Leave
School
Do
I
Have
To
Not
Use
This
Anymore
He
Said
Oh
No
I
Was
Like
Okay
I
Want
To
Hold
You
To
That
So
I
Like
To
Thank
Microsoft
They're
Going
To
Send
Bill
Gates
To
Your
House
To
Rough
You
Up
Buy
Him
Out
Boys
Exactly
Anyway
Well I
Guess
We're
Going
To
Sort
Of
Wrapping
Up
Do
You
Have
Any
Announcements
Other
Than
What
You
Told
Me
Before
That
Yapple
Is
Converting
Completely
To
Ruby
On
Rails
Tomorrow
No
Not
Really
Yeah
I
Yeah
Well
Apparently
According to
Ruby
On
Rails
Evangelist
Over
Here
You
Can
Do
It
In
Like
An
Hour
You
Can
Convert
An
Entire
Web
Application
But
I'm
Just
Looking
At
It
Going
What
The
Hell
Is
This
Yeah
See
That's
The
Thing
If
You
Know
The
Language
You
Could
Do
It
Very
Quickly
Like
If
I
Really
Knew
Ruby
On
Rails
I
Could
Convert
Bell's
Mind
In
It
Really
Easy
To
Do
A
Lot
Of
The
Reporting
That
I
Do
But
The
Thing
Is
There's
Little
Things
In
The
Language
That
I
Don't
Know
Yet
That
Just
Make
It
Impossible
So
I've
Got
To
Do
More
Reading
And
Once
I
Figure
That
Out
Then
This
Application
Will
Take
Me
A
While
To
Develop
But
The
Next
Application
After
That
Will
Be
Much
Faster
Really
I'm
Tempted
To
Buy
Their
Book
They
Have
A
Book
Available
On
Their
Website
And
I'm
Looking
At
Going
I
Guess
I
Could
Possibly
Get
That
And
I'll
Just
Go
From
There
Because
Really
There's
Not
A lot
Of
Good
Explanations
Online
In
My
Opinion
I
Printed
Out
Two
Or
Three
Stuff
Here's
How
To
Do
A
Ruby
On
Rails
App
And
It
Was
Okay
But
Didn't
Want
Answer
A
Lot
Of
My
Questions
About
Syntax
And
How
Certain
Things
Actually
Work
Under
The
Hood
Yeah
That's
What
A lot
Of
It's
Missing
How
It
Works
Under
The
Hood
Which
Confuses
Me
Like
I'm
Not
Content
With
Just
Saying
Oh
Okay
I do
This
And
This
And
I
Have
A
Blog
Like
Okay
That's
Great
But
I'm
Not
Looking
To
Build
A
Blog
I
Need
To
Know
How
This
Official
One
The
Agile
Development
Yeah
Agile
Development
Yeah
That
Sounds
Right
Okay
Now
Of
Course
You're
Going
To
Yell
At
Me
Because
Every
Time
We
Bring
Up
Anything
You
Say
I
Have
It
I
Have
The
Book
And
Hey
It's
Like
A
$20
Book
Give
Me
A
Break
You
Can
Get
It
In
PDF
Format
If
You
Don't
Want
To
Read
It
On
Paper
But
I
Like
My
Books
Entry
Format
Actually
I
Do
Too
So
That's
The
Way
I
Got
It
Takes
You
Through
Building
A
Like
An
E
Commerce
Site
So
I've
Gotten
I've
Seated
A
Third
Through
It
And
It's
Pretty
Good
But
Again
It's
Limited
In
Such
A
Way
Like
There's
Certain
Things
I
Want
To
Know
How
To
Develop
And
Their
Example
Of
Building
An
E
Commerce
Site
Really
Doesn't
Lend
Itself
To
Exactly
What
I
Want
To
Do
So
Even
When I
Get
Through
That
Even
When I've
Gotten
Through
As far
As I've
Gotten
I
Have
Questions
I
Have
A
Feeling
That
By
The
Time
I
Get
To
The
End
Of
The
Book
All
My
Questions
Will
Be
Answered
Or
At
Least
Close
Enough
Where
I
Can
Go
And
Figure
It
Out
On
My
Own
But
As
Of
Right
Now
I'm
Still
A
Lost
But
With
Rad
Rails
The
IDE
That
I
Found
I
Think
I
Should
Be
Able
To
Pick
It
Up
Pretty
Quickly
Maybe
When
You're
Done
With
The
Book
You'll
Have
To
Come
On
The
Show
Again
And
We'll
Have
To
Talk
About
Ruby
On
Rails
I
Am
Down
Because
Either
I'll
Come
On
The
Show
And
Eat
My
Words
And
Say
Ruby
On
Rails
Is
Junk
Or
I'll
Be
Back
On
The
Show
Saying
That
PHP
Is
Junk
So
You
Know
What
We
I'm
Not
Sure
If
Stank
Ever
Had
It
But
We
Need
A
Show
Where
Just
Someone
Comes
On
And
Completely
Rips
Into
A
Software
Product
And
Just
Like
Tears
It
Apart
That
Be
An
Interesting
Show
Wow
I
Think
I
Might
Be
Able
To
Do
That
With
Quite
A
Few
Pieces
Of
Software
So
You
Pick
One
And
You
Give
Me
Just
So
Everyone
Knows
Going
Back
To
Personal
Hacking
Stories
I
Finally
Moved
The
Whole
I
Recently
Integrated
Apple
With
Google
Maps
And
Google
Maps
Is
Pretty
Cool
And
I
I've
Actually
Kind
Of
Moved
It
Out
From
Complete
Alpha
Testing
To
Beta
Which
Means
Hey
It's
On
The
Site
And
It
Sort
Of
Works
Just
Don't
Expect
It
To
Work
All
The
Time
So
If
You
Want
To
Go
Check
That
Out
It's
YAPL.org
I'm
Slowly
Integrating
It
More
And
More
But
That's
Pretty
Cool
Google
Maps
Is
Fun
Maybe
We'll
Do
An
Episode
On
That
Let's
See
2600
Meetings
Are
This
Right
No
Next
Week
No
See
I'm
Completely
Confused
This
Whole
Like
Christmas
Season
Just
Has
Me
Horribly
Confused
As
To
What
Week
It
Is
Side
Of
The
Week
If
You
Actually
Go
To
My
Web
Blog
I
Mention
This
In
Today's
One
Of
Today's
Post
Tiny
Oral
Dot
Com
Charly
Sierra
Tango
Victor
Papa
And
It's
A
Weblog
Entry
From
Someone
At
MIT
A
Girl
At
MIT
One
Of
The
Three
Of
Them
There
About
One
Of
The
Hacks
They
Pulled
Off
Recently
Apparently
What
They
Did
Is
They
Did
Their
Entire
Front
Lobby
Of
Their
Main
Building
Into
A
Super
Mario
Theme
And
If
You
Go
Down
This
Really
Long
Hallway
It's
An
Entire
Super
Mario
Level
Really
Yeah
It's
Pretty
Cool
Checked
That
Out
TinyURL.com
Charly
Sierra
Tango
Victor
Papa
It's
Pretty
Cool
It was
Very
Well
Done
A
Lot
Of
People
Were
Complaining
They
Posted
On
Slash
Dot
And
All
The
Trolls
Came
Out
Saying
Oh
That's
Not
A
Really
Impressive
Hack
But
If
You
Actually
Have
Ever
Been
To
MIT
This
Lobby
Is
Probably
About
Three
Or
Four
Stories
High
And
Somehow
They
Managed
To
Suspend
This
Completely
3D
If
You
Go
Back
If
You
Remember
Super
Mario
Brothers
One
You
Had
The
Pipes
You
Could
Go
Down
To
They
Had
Like
A
Completely
3D
Pipe
And
They
Had
A
Mario
Coming
Out
Of
It
And
It
Was
Just
I
Looked
It
Out
And
I
Had
Been
In
The
Building
Before
And
I
Was
Like
How
Did
They
Manage
To
Hang
That
Up
There
School
Rules
Were
Definitely
Broken
In
Setting
This
Up
Email
If
You're
Actually
Going
To
Email
Us
Maybe
We
Can
Shoot
For
A
Week
Of
No
Email
That
Would
Kind
Of
Pathetic
But
It's
Getting
Down
There
Radio
At
Binrev
Dot
Com
Send
Us
Your
Questions
Tell
Us
That
Microsoft
Sucks
I
Would
Like
To
Apologize
Again
For
Having
No
Phone
Calls
This
Week
But
Zygmunt
Wasn't
Here
And
Strom
Had
Personal
Business
I
Assume
Zygmunt
Had
Personal
Business
It
Was
Partially
Our
Fault
That
We
Couldn't
Actually
Get
Everything
Set
Up
Correctly
Strom
Actually
Found
Out
He
Couldn't
Be
Here
About
Oh
4
30
This
Afternoon
He's
Like
I
Can't
Be
Here
I
Don't
Know
What
To
Do
I
Was
Like
Calm
Down
Figure
Out
Yeah
Not
A
Big
Deal
Yeah
Whatever
We're
Always
Cool
As long
As
Somebody's
Here
Talking
And
Rambling
On
Hot
Theory
Is
Always
A
Good
Guess
So
I
Love
To
Ramble
And
Yell
And
Get
Angry
About
Things
That
Are
Inconsequential
It's
Great
It's
Great
That's
What
The
Internet
Is
All
About
Yep
Closing
Music
This
Week
Earthbound
It's
The
Red
Blue
Sanctuary
Remix
And
It's
From
Ocremix.org
Another
Wonderful
Video
Game
Remix
Site
So
Do you
Have
Anything
Else
You
Want
To
Say
Out
Here
Um
Nope
I'm
Just
Tired
Getting
Ready
To
Go
To
Sleep
So
I'm
Done
Alright
So
We
Will
See
You
Next
Week
Same
Hack
Time
Same
Hack
Channel
Up
House
And
Ah
H
,
H
Thank you.