This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers.
I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you
in a fag pose.
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho, cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold.
I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable.
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo. On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a hero.
In a flash, I'll school you on burning dreamcast. You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle.
Our exchange, you could never stifle. In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug.
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z.
Your CG, it's all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely.
You feel that rattling in your bones when I tell you we just hacked out Jones?
And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack.
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals.
Serial codes, source codes, ISOs, RAMs, Cine...
Hello and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio episode number...
What episode is this?
132.
Did I put it in the show notes?
Oh, there it is. Yeah, there it is. Sorry about that. I'm kind of out of it.
Episode 132, with the air date of January 24th, 2006.
January 24th, 2006, yes.
I'm Strom Carlson.
Jeez, you lose for two weeks and you're just out of it.
I am totally out of it.
I'm a black ratchet.
Yeah, I haven't even touched a computer all day. I've been cleaning my apartment.
But, uh, so yeah, welcome to Binary Revolution Radio.
We're live again for the first time in a couple weeks.
And, uh, our surprise for all you, uh, all you listening live is that we have a new, improved, easier-to-remember call-in number.
The number is now 888-9-BINREV.
That's 888-9-BINREV.
Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
Custom number mania.
Good stuff.
Yeah.
888-9-BINREV.
So call on in, because we really were, um, we had a, we had a guest and he had to run off.
And he had a good excuse. It was cool. So, whatever.
But, uh, we're just going to be doing email tonight and call-ins.
And if you guys don't call in, the show is going to go off.
Because all these other times we try to do the listener-provided material,
it was more along the lines of, geez, this show sucks, because we just sort of sit there and go.
Um, nobody's calling in. We don't know what to do.
So, basically what we're going to do, if, if you don't call in, if the queue is empty,
by the time we, uh, hit, end the email, the, the, we're going to talk a little bit and, you know,
do our regular spiel.
But, once the show is over and we don't have any call-ins, the show is going to be over.
Mm-hmm.
So, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
So, get those dialing fingers ready.
Dial, dial, dial. 888-9-BINREV.
All my fingers are dialing. All my dialing fingers are ready.
I'm just ready to go and just, you know, hit all ten buttons at once.
Yep. Go, yeah.
On a, on a Western Western phone.
Actually, I can't dial my phone in my office.
Not do anything, yeah.
That'll just make no tone whatsoever if you hit the wall all at once.
Well, no, it makes a tone. It just sounds muted. It goes boop.
Not if you do it correctly. If you do it correctly, then that part of the, that part of the dial mechanism
never actually gets activated.
So, it just does nothing.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
If you press the buttons, it's kind of not quite at the same time.
If you, if you press the buttons, not quite at the same time, then you get, like, a burst of tone.
But if you press them at exactly the same time, nothing.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, interesting.
I didn't know that.
So, we're just going to toss a number out here again, 888-9-BINREV.
If you're calling.
Yeah.
And the archives are continued to be updated.
So, that was just a gaffe, and we're all set now.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
That's all it for the housekeeping. We have no housekeeping today.
Yeah.
Real life seems to have interfered with our hacking-ness.
Well, not really. I mean, I've been doing stuff. It's just, you know, whatever.
Let's go to the email.
Okay. Email, it is.
Yeah, the email theme. You know, you know that little thing you have, the button you have to press?
Like this?
This is the point where you say, no, no, no, no, no. Like this. Then you press that button where Stank says, take that cock out of your mouth or something.
No, I don't have that set up.
God damn it.
That would have been funny, though.
If you didn't, like, pounce on it right after the song ended, I would have gone, yeah, just like that.
But you ruined it.
Well, I was waiting for you to pounce on it, but nothing. So, oh, well. Next time.
Anyway, our first email.
We must be slightly lagged then.
Yeah, we probably must be.
Our first email comes from Kyle L., and he says, hey, Strauman Black Ratchet.
Recently, I needed some insurance on my car, so I headed over to Progressive.com to get a quote.
After entering my name and address, it gave back a list of cars titled Your Vehicles.
It listed all the vehicles we've had at this address in the last several years.
Anyway, I did some testing and found out the name you enter doesn't matter.
Simply with a mailing address, you can get a list of vehicles that have been registered there.
This information isn't hard to come by if you're willing to pay for it, but this is an interesting little free way of getting it.
Black Ratchet is my hero, Kyle.
I bet he's, like, cringing right now.
Technically, I think the original said, like, Black Ratchet is a noob, or Black Ratchet sucks.
I forgot exactly what he said, but I decided to do a little inline editing there.
Welcome to BinRev, where we get the...
Anyways, I'll just...
Yeah.
We read what we want to read on air, damn it.
Exactly.
But, yeah, Kyle's going to run me over to his Mustang or something.
Well, hey, with Progressive, he can cover it, you know?
That's awesome.
Yeah, he can cover it with Progressive auto insurance.
He can insure his Mustang and kill people and not have to pay an insane premium.
Exactly.
Is that...
No, Geico is the one with the gecko.
Yeah.
I forgot.
I don't trust anyone with really creepy, crazy ads.
Well, Progressive is pretty good, I think.
Yeah, Progressive is good.
They got the president, or the former president, the president who died.
Very sad.
Or is that Allstate?
Who?
I don't know.
It's kind of sad.
They've got Richard Nixon advertising insurance?
What?
No, see, no, you don't watch TV.
You can't comment on this.
Yeah, I'm just guessing that it's Richard Nixon.
But, Kyle, congratulations.
No, it's...
We won't get into it.
For those of you who watch 24, you know what I'm talking about.
Kyle, yeah.
Thank you.
That's actually really kind of creepy, I think, the way that they can actually bring
that up like that.
Actually, I thought...
I originally thought, like, ooh, that's pretty cool.
But the more I thought about it, this is a problem.
Because one of my friends, he was applying for a credit card because he was...
I think it was Dell, or maybe it was Gateway at the point.
I forget.
But he was applying for a credit card online, and one of their security features was,
after you entered, you know, name, social security number, mother's maiden name, flood
type, all that wonderful stuff.
They had, please verify your identity.
One of the questions was...
It was...
I think it was multiple choice, if I'm not mistaken, actually.
Of, like, you had, like, ten choices, and it's like, you know, please select the car that
you bought in such and such a year.
And they have, like, you know, eight choices, and his car was there.
And we both thought, it was like, wow, that's kind of scary that they know that.
But, um, I also thought, you know, well, that really isn't too secure.
I mean, someone could actually go and watch them and find out what car that they bought
and what cars they have, so they stand a good chance of doing it.
But, you know, I kind of dismissed that, because what you have to do is basically sit there,
and you have to do recon on your target if you want to steal their identity and go,
woo, yeah, you're driving a, you know, yellow Yugo, and then that would fill it out.
But, um, thanks to regressive and progressive auto insurance, not only can you get cheap rates,
but once again, you can reach out and own someone.
Just own them over the network and be, yeah, I know what car you drive.
So, anyway, yeah, and by the way, it does work.
I did verify it with something.
Actually, a very interesting thing is that they don't provide insurance in Massachusetts.
So, that was pretty interesting.
Our next email is from DuffUK.
Hi, BlackRatchet and co-host.
Recently, I downloaded and installed a host file to my C Windows System 32 driver's Etsy directory.
It's from a website called HP Hosts.
These guys maintain a massive list of domains, 42,258 at the last count,
that effectively block all the crappy inline ads whilst I'm browsing.
Well, anyway, to cut a long story short, binrev.com has been added to the list.
It's not a problem to edit out your entry, but I thought you may find this entry interesting nevertheless.
Anyway, great show.
Last week about the IRC stuff, very well-prepared and informative.
Keep up the good work, guys.
I'm looking forward to hearing the follow-up real soon about bots and stuff.
Best regards, DuffUK.
P.S.
I know you guys are into payphones, so I've included a nice picture of some public payphones in the arrival lounge
at Tunis Airport, Tunisia, taking on a visit recently.
Duff.
First off, hey, awesome photos.
I'm curious whether or not if you have submitted it to 2600, they do all that stuff.
I think they have on their back inside cover.
It used to be on their back cover, but on their back inside cover now,
they have all the photos from around the world of payphones.
I'm back.
Sorry, I've been screening calls.
Yeah, apparently.
I was like going, man, where the heck is he?
And I was just like, look at it out there, going, whatever.
Where does he go?
But we do have phone calls, so that's always good.
Anyway, so on their back inside cover, they do collect phone pictures,
so you might want to send it off.
And actually, I'll try and post this on my website, just so everyone else can see it.
Next, I don't know what these people were thinking, but sure enough, we are listed.
This was actually, I believe actually it was you, or maybe it was someone else,
messaged Zygman, and he brought it up in one of our secret forums that we have,
about, you know, we were listed.
And I guess these people really don't do QA work,
or else they just sort of, you know, blindly add sites in that someone reports,
and someone must have most reported.
Binrev.com is a super 31337 Hacksource site,
which I guess is a compliment.
I don't know.
But we are classified with the riffraff of, you know,
spyware sites and horrible sites and, you know, all kinds of stuff, you know,
stuff that will make your hair grow in your palms, and I don't know.
But anyway, so we decided, well, you know,
I think we hit this guy's description as a normal site,
so we'll just go and we'll try to get off of it.
And I went to their website, and he had instructions on their website.
I think it's just run by one guy, if I'm not mistaken.
And he says, you know, if you want to get listed, you know,
I need this information from you.
You know, what's your website about?
What does it actually do?
What entries do you want removed?
And, you know, it was very straightforward.
And I thought, okay, okay, I'll go do this.
And I registered.
And that was a week ago, and I have heard nothing since.
So, I mean, no, you know, no, you've been denied,
or no, you've been accepted, or, I mean,
I can't post on this bloody forum.
I actually need to go and email this guy and say,
hey, you know, I tried to do it your way,
but I'm actually directly emailing you now,
so take us off our list, damn it.
So, for the record, HB Hosts sucks.
Don't use them, but we will plug their website,
because it's an interesting project.
They will give the guy that.
And 42,000 sites listed, and I'm sure, you know,
at least a couple of them are listed incorrectly,
and you have to take care of your own website.
But it's tinyurl.com slash charlieoscarfoxeatwhiskey.
Check them out, look at it.
It's a fairly simple idea.
For those of you who don't know, your host files,
basically you can specify an IP address to a certain domain name,
and that overrides all your settings.
And if, for example, you're specifying that to a null website,
you can't get to that website.
Sort of very burning the village to save it,
but it's effective.
I will give them that.
Do we have a phone call this evening?
We do have a phone call.
Let's grab e.l.f.
Just a second.
Elf.
God, Will Ferrell's going to be on the show.
Go fly over to LA and smack him and say,
that's not funny.
Yes, that's not my joke, I know.
And this is why we enjoyed the call screener,
because we could just instantly bring them in
and not have to worry about calling them and talking to them,
and then I can just sit here
and not have to babble on incessantly about nothing.
So do we have Elf?
We have Elf.
I believe Elf's bridged in.
Say hello, Elf.
Yeah.
Oh, I just was going to let you guys talk.
I hope I don't have an echo.
I'm going through a landline that's hooked up to a voice system,
so there might be some kind of issue there.
You sound good to me.
No echo.
Okay.
You sound kind of grainy,
but other than that, you sound good.
Well, it's going through GSM on my end.
Ew!
So, yeah, I know we all hate GSM,
but, you know, 512K up, what can you do, really?
Well, you've got the bandwidth for,
I've got 608 up,
and I can do, like, seven calls with MULA at the same time.
Well, the worst thing about this system is it goes in and it goes out,
so every call really takes twice the amount of bandwidth,
you know, at least as it's usually set up,
because I have my apartment here within EECSI,
and I'm using a software phone right now, actually,
and it goes to Irvine where I answer servers,
and then it goes out either over VoIPjet or, you know,
a number of other routings.
Well, I mean, what will happen, actually,
is if, with EECS2, if you've got, you know,
if you've got something in the connection that doesn't need to be there,
EECS2 is smart enough to where it'll say,
okay, you and you talk to each other directly,
and then the redundant connection will drop out.
Oh, okay.
So it hands it off, kind of like people...
And it can actually SIP does that as well, but it...
So, anyway...
And this is why we don't use GSM,
because the lag is horrible.
Yeah.
Oh.
So, anyway, you had an interesting question about...
We're not trying to say anything, by the way they're else.
Okay.
So you had a question about, what was it,
step switches or something?
Step switches interconnected with VoIP.
I think people are making something called the CNET,
which is the collector's net,
and they're hooking a bunch of step switches together with asterisk boxes.
Let me guess, you read about this in Network World today.
I did.
No, I heard this a while ago.
I pointed that out maybe a week ago,
and I thought it would be an interesting topic for today.
Was it in Network World?
Yeah, it was actually...
I just...
I've paid attention to the mailing list that they're on.
I'm not actually really active in it,
but I do read the mail as it were.
I pay attention to their archives.
And I was reading it today because I was completely bored at work.
And they were just mentioned in Network World,
and I think I might be able to fish a URL out there for you.
Strom, do you want me to talk about this, or shall I?
Yeah, you talk about it because you know more about it than I do,
and I'll go screen the next...
Actually, no, I can't screen the call while he's on.
You go ahead and talk about it.
Okay, well, what CollectorsNet is,
is basically it's a bunch of telephone collectors
who own switching equipment.
And, you know, switching equipment meaning actual telephone switches,
whether it be step-by-step switches,
or I think someone actually owns a crossbar switch for some reason.
And what all these are, for those of you who don't know
and haven't paid attention over all those traumatized babblings,
are these are old electrical mechanical phone switches
spec that were used from basically, you know,
basically up until about the 1980s in most areas.
And they're not electronically controlled.
They're not digital.
They're all, you know, giant moving pieces of equipment.
And, you know, telephone collectors just seem to like collecting telephones,
and one of the parts that they actually do
is they connect their telephones up to actual telephone switches.
And actually what this group was is they were thinking,
well, geez, we have all these telephone switches,
but technically they're not connected to anything,
or maybe they're connected out to a single landline someplace.
What happens, why don't we try and connect them together via VoIP?
And this group, actually, let me go drop their website.
I believe it's www.ckts.info.
And basically this group got together and they all started using Asterisk,
and all of these people started connecting up their switches together.
And I believe on the network article they said they have, like, you know,
12 active switches all internet connected together.
And, you know, they all basically,
I think they all have their own exchange hooked into their switch.
Like, you know, for example, it would be 3-1-1-5-5-5 would be one switch,
while 3-1-1-5-5-6 would be another switch, you know,
possibly somewhere in another completely different geographical area.
And they've all interconnected them, and apparently it works.
They actually have a phone number that I've used occasionally,
and you can dial it up from the regular phone network.
You can get a dial tone,
and then you can actually dial out all of these numbers that were accessed in their network.
And it's very interesting.
If you liked old telephone equipment, go ahead.
Sorry, it must be that delay again.
I was just going to say, yeah, it's kind of a neat thing.
I remember I was listening to the Evan Doorbell recordings quite some time ago,
and he discouraged people from simulating the old network using digital, you know, digital methods.
And I suppose, of course, that doesn't directly apply to this.
But, you know, I was just kind of wondering, I know Strom has been in contact with him.
What would be his take on this whole thing?
I mean, I think it's really neat.
You know, they get to use the old technology.
And, you know, there's really no better way to interconnect it at the time.
They're not going to, you know, lease lines to each other and all that.
Well, I mean, there is a huge difference between having a real step switch on the end of a digital connection
versus having recordings of a step switch on a server somewhere.
I mean, with recordings, you lose all the cool things and make the real switch special,
whereas with a real switch, if you've got, you know, something on the end of a connection,
although it's not anywhere near as high-quality audio as you'd get from playing with it directly,
you still are moving selectors and so on.
Okay, yeah.
And should I move on to my second topic of the day?
Yeah, sure, go ahead.
Let me just hold on.
And I believe their website is ckts.info, and the Network World article is tinyurl.com
slash 9YankeeKilowattVictorUniform.
And now you can go.
Okay.
Well, this is a more personal thing.
A while ago, I got an ISDN line installed in my house just for the two phone lines,
and you don't have to pay for caller ID.
And, of course, this was through my parents, the house in Irvine, California, that is.
And, you know, my parents are not very knowledgeable about telecom in general, though,
and I don't profess to be, but, you know, I know a bit more than average.
And, of course, the whole selection of the long-distance carrier thing came up,
and somehow they got stuck with Sprint.
And recently we got a $120 phone bill, and Sprint was charging us $0.40 a minute
for in-stayed calls during the daytime.
And I called another friend of mine, and he suggested that this was kind of an unusual thing.
And I was just wondering, what's your opinion of Sprint?
We've had some experience with them in the past with cell phones and $500 a month bills.
But, you know, in your experience, does Sprint tend to rip people off more than other telephone companies do?
Hmm. I'm not sure about that.
I mean, I know you've used Sprint for more than a few years.
Well, I mean, I really have never used Sprint long-distance, per se.
I had Sprint local service in Vegas, but they were busy divesting that division.
My question for you is, did they intentionally sign up for Sprint,
or did they just find themselves with Sprint one day?
I think, oddly enough, when we were getting the new line, we told them we wanted MCI,
but that was what we had before.
And ever since we got the first ISDN bill, it was just Sprint.
So I also called the Sprint operator, and she quoted 30 cents a minute for in-state calls.
Well, that's the thing.
The thing is, if the telephone company sets you up incorrectly
and sets your pick to a different long-distance carrier for whom you don't have an account set up with,
they're going to charge you the casual access rates for all direct dial calls.
If you call up the long-distance company and set up an account with them,
then obviously they'll give you a better deal.
But, I mean, you can't just say Sprint, for example,
and expect that you're going to have an account with Sprint.
You have to call the inter-exchange carrier and say,
hi, I want to set up an account with you guys.
Okay, so that explains it, although it seems kind of odd in this day and age
where long distance is less than a penny that they would charge you 30 cents a minute.
Any long-distance carrier will do that if you use their network casually.
MCI will charge you insane rates.
Sprint will charge you insane rates.
AT&T will charge you insane rates.
Global Crossing will as well, and whoever else, you know.
Okay.
Yeah, thankfully, last month I started routing out VoIP jets,
and, you know, I don't think I remember going back aside from failover.
But, you know, that was just – and a related issue,
if you don't have anything to talk about,
do you think the public knows enough about telecom in general?
Do you think there are ways that they could be better educated about these kind of things
so that they don't run into, you know, $120 a month bills?
Or is this kind of intentional on the part of the telephone companies
to try and, you know, kind of not make this information too prominent
so that people will run into these kind of charges?
Well, I mean, they encourage you to sign up.
I mean, if they didn't want you to sign up for long-distance plans,
they wouldn't advertise them.
You know, they wouldn't advertise $0.05 a minute, $0.07 a minute, you know.
Casual access has always been an expensive tariff service.
It's always been that way because, you know, for what they have to go through in order to bill you,
it's far more complicated than what has to be done
if you already have an account established with them.
So the additional overhead in billing you for casual access.
Well, actually, when I got Verizon,
when I got Verizon, it was a, basically, I set up my line with Verizon
and, you know, they said, do you want a long-distance provider?
And I told them, no, I don't plan on making long-distance phone calls.
And I just sort of left off with you guys.
But, so, and I got a letter in the mail from Verizon saying, you know, okay,
your phone line's set up, here's your phone number.
You know, they gave me all the, you know, here's your service enabled.
And part of the spring was, you do not have a long-distance service.
If, you know, you need to set one up if you want to call long-distance or else,
I forget the exact quote.
But I think I don't have it in front of me, so it is, basically,
it's along the lines of, you know, so my God, set up a long-distance provider.
It'll be more expensive if you don't, if you call long-distance.
And if you don't set it up in 30 days, we may charge you $5 to set one up.
And that was the two things that the little paragraph got across.
But, I mean, yeah, they're at least saying, you know, set one up, bloody goddammit.
But, you know, come on.
And I know for a fact that my SBC bill says your long-distance carrier is,
you are, you're pre-subscribed to this,
and your calls automatically route to this carrier for intralata
and this other carrier for intralata.
And, I mean, they do that so that you don't accidentally, you know,
dial all your calls direct through some other carrier.
That might change your code through them.
So, really, the only thing that can truly damage you in the long run is your own ignorance.
Yeah, I suppose that's true.
I was just, you know, of course, when you have a system that's so complex
that you have to do research on it to know exactly what you're getting,
my question was just do you think the public could be better educated on it,
perhaps through whatever means or by the telephone company themselves, you know, proactively?
People are going to be ignorant on anything if you don't educate them.
Yes.
And even if you do make the stuff available, I mean, people are going to be ignorant of it regardless.
You can send, I mean, like...
That's true.
Yeah, you can send them literature that says,
hey, do this, hey, do that, hey, read this, and they'll throw it out and they won't read it.
Or they'll read it and they won't know what it's about.
So, I mean...
Or they'll trade it between themselves from people in California and people in Massachusetts.
Exactly.
Okay, well, yeah, I guess that's really all I had for today.
Of course, I can...
If you guys have networking subjects in the future, basically my job is to be a network engineer.
So, if you need someone that can talk about PGP or, you know, routing in general or firewalls or whatever, you know,
I can come on and talk about that stuff.
All right, cool.
Of course, you know, offhand, it's hard for me to think of, you know, subject to just feel about.
Hey, send us a proposal and we'll probably very seriously consider it.
And that goes for all you listeners.
Email either radiobinrov.com or email one of us, because I actually think I might have questions for you regardless.
Ha-ha!
Okay, well, thanks for having me on the show, and I hope you guys have some more entertaining material after I'm done.
You should.
Seems like you have a few people queued up, so I guess...
Hey, you gave good questions.
Thank you so much.
Are you going to kick me off with style?
Well, we appreciate you calling in, and we encourage you to call back again with more questions if you have them.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks.
Thanks for calling, man.
Bye-bye.
Thanks, John.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Do we have another phone call, or shall I read another email first?
Let's read another email.
Let's read another email, and you can go.
While you're answering it, yeah, I'll just bring the call.
Which one were we on?
All right.
Sounds good to me.
The one after...
We have number three.
That's right.
Yeah.
Hey, Black Ratchet and Stromcrawl.
The one after HP Host.
Yeah.
Just got a chance to download and listen to episodes 129 and 130.
In 129, you mentioned using Winamp to stream to Shoutcast Icecast from Windows, and Ices to do the same on Linux.
Another app for streaming audio I find somewhat useful on Linux is Muse.
And that's tinyurl.com slash CharlieQuebec9EchoUniform.
It has GTK slash curses slash command line interfaces for controlling and can talk to Icecast, Shoutcast, Darwin, etc.
It has support for playing MP3, WAVE, AUG files internally as well as recording from line in.
I haven't had experience with the GTK interface, but the curses interface gives me problems, but the CLI is great.
In episode 130, you mentioned the ARRL handbook and a couple of other books for studying for a hand-licensed test.
I'd also recommend QRZ.com.
Okay, QRZ.com.
They have practiced tests online with the entire question pool as well as other useful resources.
I use that site a lot when practicing for my tech license test.
Finally, several episodes ago, you mentioned that someone had built a rotary cell phone in passing.
Here's the link to that project.
Tinyurl.com slash...
Six, Oscar, Mike Echo, November.
Definitely a cool project.
Sorry for the long email.
Keep up the good work, Alex.
I'm going to jump right on.
You or I are lagged.
Yeah, I forget what it is.
Probably you, because I'm sitting right here on the clock.
I can talk about QRZ.
Go ahead and take the next phone call.
Okay, and I can talk about Muse.
All right.
Oh, you've used Muse.
Okay, that's good, because I actually haven't used it.
All right, so, Alex, thanks for those links.
I could have sworn that we actually plugged the...
Gave the link out for the tiny, whatever it is, the rotary cell phone.
But I guess not, so, you know, tinyurl.com slash six omen.
I just noticed that.
I actually spelled something.
How cool.
So, QRZ is a nice website.
For those of you curious, QRZ is actually something called a Q code.
Basically, back in the days of Morse code, they used to have all these little short Q codes.
And it was basically texting before texting was cool, because you would basically have these little three-letter codes,
like, you know, Q, letter, letter, and they'd all mean something different.
And basically, QRZ would mean, who's calling me?
Is someone calling me?
So, and what QRZ initially started out as is basically a radio lookup site for the different call signs.
Like, you'd enter someone's call sign, and you'd get back an address of whether you could contact that person or send them something called a QSL.
And QSL is another Q code, and it basically stands for I heard you, or I hear you, or do you hear me?
And another term for, and basically another use for that is a QSL card.
And what a QSL card basically means is a little card that you can trade, a little postcard saying, you know,
I contacted you on such and such a date at such and such a time.
And basically, you trade them, and, you know, if I contact someone in Botswana, I send them a QSL card, and then they send me a QSL card.
And I have, they have something from, you know, Boston, Massachusetts, and I have something from, you know, Haki, Botswana.
And basically what ham radio guys do is they, you know, collect them, and they put them on their walls.
And you can look at them, and, you know, I've, my university radio club had stuff from all over.
Like, you know, stuff back from, like, you know, USSR.
It was amazing, some of the stuff that they had.
Like, you know, and it's just basically, it's a little thing that's like, yeah, I talked there, yeah.
And you can hike your belt up and say, you know, like, you know, your phallus is larger than your competitors.
Strom, are you back?
Guess not.
Muse is a nice program.
I've never actually used it, but apparently Strom has, so we'll have to talk about it a little bit more.
I did some quick Googling, and it's got some nice reviews.
And they didn't, and sadly, they didn't have screenshots, but I guess that's kind of difficult if you're just, you know, making a curses client.
But I guess, you know, for the GTK client, you can make some pretty pictures.
Yeah, so QRZ, nice website.
They've really expanded.
They have, like, forums now.
And if I'm not mistaken, I believe they have web hosting, which you can do if you're a ham radio guy.
And some people are using that.
That could be a different website, though.
And they do have tests.
That's something I forgot to mention.
There's a lot of online testing that you can do.
QRZ has one.
I believe the ARRL has one as well.
And I think Strom is back.
I am certainly back, yes.
Or not.
Hello?
Oh, I guess I'm lagged.
Yeah, you are majorly lagged.
Yeah, why don't I talk about Muse?
And will you hang up and call back in?
Yes, I think I will do that.
Okay.
I'll talk about Muse.
Okay.
So anyway, when I was playing around with streaming BinRev Radio Live, I actually considered using Muse because it has a transcoding ability.
And it has the ability to – I was looking at it basically for two things.
First off, transcoding ability.
And second, the fact that I could play high-quality music and talk into a microphone to stream the audio live.
Oh, that's what you were looking at it for.
Yeah, that's what I was looking at it for.
But the problems I encountered with it were that really I just couldn't get it to work.
Apparently, that's a requirement.
You must have really high standards.
Yeah.
The GTK interface just did not work at all.
It really – like it would work every now and again.
I should give it some credit.
But I couldn't get it to work reliably well.
And, you know, it just – it wouldn't have worked out.
So that's why we do it this way.
Yes, yes.
Because it would actually really be cool to be able to put the higher-quality audio directly into the stream instead of having to go and mix it in later.
But I guess not.
I might try it again, and it might work this time.
But so far, I haven't gotten it to work.
Only time will tell.
Yes.
So who do we have for caller?
I believe we have Iron Geek as a caller, and he wants to chat about something – I forget exactly what he wants to chat about.
Something involving conventions.
Let me bring him on here.
Well, he can go bring it on here and talk about it.
Maybe – I believe he was actually talking in a Pound of a Omicron on Freenode about –
I don't know.
Someone was talking about how there were hot chicks at cons, and these are the important things you need to remember for computer cons.
Actually, oh, yeah, that's what it was.
They were showing a picture on Iron Geek's website about the hot chick sores, LOL.
All right.
I think we have Iron Geek on now.
Hello.
I'm on.
I was just going to mention a live CD that was recently released.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
How did you get conventions out of a live CD?
Well, no, no.
He had – okay, that's right.
He had two things.
One is a live CD.
One is a convention.
And I just forgot to note that.
Holy cow.
I took some pictures at – I took some pictures at Sweet Nick 9 of some very pretty women.
But you've got to keep in mind, I only took pictures of the pretty women by and large.
So it's not exactly representative of what you normally see at the convention.
That being said, there were some lovely ladies there.
Yeah.
So you've avoided violating your no fat chicks rule?
I did violate a time or two.
Ah.
So it's good to have some meat on them bones.
Yes, it is.
It depends on how much meat –
I hope my fiancé isn't listening.
There's a fine line between the, you know, the too much meat and too little meat.
But actually, no, there's not really a fine line.
There's a large area where it could go over.
Well, we'll take your word for it.
So our live CD.
Let's go get actually back somewhat on topic.
I haven't talked about.
Okay.
The live CD in question was recently released at ShmooCon.
Dr. Chaos and his team of people developed it.
Apparently, he was doing a lecture at InnerZone, I believe it was 4, where he talked about how
to create an OS that left very little traces as far as ingoing and outgoing.
Basically, anybody who tried to contact the system running this OS would receive no information
back about it, and all communications outbound would be encrypted and done in such a way
that it would be hard to trace back to it.
They came out with a CD based on OpenBSD 3.8 that allows a lot of this.
What they've done is they've built everything into this live CD, Tor, Trivoxy, and so forth.
And everybody knows what Tor is, basically, right?
Yeah.
I would hope so.
If not, you should listen to episode 120-something.
Yeah.
Oh, and by the way, the name of this live CD distribution is Anonymous, A-N-O-N-Y-M-O-S.
Thank you for saying that.
And they use all this, and they use Tor, and they encrypt everything, and they route it
through the network, and it makes it incredibly hard to trace back.
And they also have very stringent firewall rules that keep that particular box running
the CD from easily being able to be detected.
Though, obviously, if it's connected to a wireless network, it's going to be detectable
for people on the local LAN.
And I've been playing around with it recently.
It even sends the DNS traffic over, apparently, the Tor channel.
It runs both Firefox and game, no problem, with the Tor network.
And it uses the Trivoxy proxy to pull out extra information that JavaScript and other
client-side utilities might be able to pull up about the host.
So it looks like they're doing a pretty good job of trying to make a secure boot CD.
It might be a cool thing to play with in your local coffee shop that's popping into your
laptop, boot up from it, and see how secure you are.
Go web surf to a few places that list your IP address, like Nick84's website, and see
what it reports back to you.
Or even better, when you're in the coffee shop, go sneak on someone else's laptop and
go fire it up that way.
That's an idea.
And it seems to work pretty well on the VMware player.
So if you want to try it, and don't want to say that you can't boot for it.
Have we lost him?
That option.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
I thought it was me, honestly.
Yeah, no, it was me, too.
Will you repeat that?
I think you dropped out for a second.
Oh.
Also, if for some reason you can't get the live CD to work from straight booting it on
your laptop because it doesn't support your wireless card, you can always use VMware
Player.
It seems to run pretty easy on that.
And VMware Player is free.
Ah, cool.
Cool.
So I've run it on Windows in VMware Player.
Actually, VMware Player, there's actually tools out there.
All it would do is let you play someone else's virtual machine that they've created, let's
say, with the full VMware.
However, someone's come up with tools to make your own virtual machines for completely free.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
So it's almost as good as having full VMware.
Oh, I am so playing with that.
I used to have VMware on my computer from my job, but I don't have the CD anymore.
Technically, that's illegal, and you shouldn't do that, so I only can play with that work.
But I was missing that.
I had a lot of fun virtual OSs on my computer installed.
In this case, it's all legal because they provide VMware Player for free, and the person
who creates, I'll paste it into the channel a bit, but the person who creates VMX Builder,
he offers his thing for free, and between the two of them, you pretty much have most
of the functionality of the full VMware.
Well, this was before they actually came out with a free version of VMware, so that's
generally pretty cool.
Oh, and the other thing I'd like to mention is two upcoming cons I wanted to see if anybody
was going to be going to.
InnerZone is coming up in Atlanta.
I've never actually been to that.
It's apparently March 10th through the 12th.
And I haven't heard much about it, but I think some people from BinRev did a previous
year.
StankDog is going this year, I believe.
StankDog is?
I believe he is.
And then there's Noticon coming up on April 7th through the 9th.
And I think there's a whole lot of BinRev is going to be showing up for that one.
Not I, said myself.
But yes, a lot of people are going.
I believe Droops is presenting.
Droops might be.
I don't know.
Okay, Droops is.
Okay.
So, Noticon.
Okay, so InnerZone is March 3rd through 10th.
No, I'm sorry.
March 10th through 12th.
Yeah, I'm out of it.
I'm suffering from a Strom disease.
That's okay.
Now, where exactly is InnerZone?
I know it's down south.
Isn't it in Georgia?
That's in Atlanta.
Atlanta.
Atlanta, okay.
And Noticon's up in Cleveland, Ohio.
Spiffy.
Well, up from my standpoint.
Sort of across and down, you know, west-southwest for me, I think.
All right.
Well, do you have anything else?
Oh, he forgot to mention Layer 1.
Oh, yeah, Layer 1.
Layer 1.
I wasn't aware of Layer 1.
Where is it at?
Pasadena, California.
What is that?
That is, I believe, the weekend of April 15th through the 16th.
Seriously, someone needs to start a convention in Boston like yesterday.
I'm just bummed out.
I mean, come on, Cleveland?
Hey, scenic downtown Cleveland.
I mean, you know, Drew Carey's there, but that's about it.
Isn't the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame there also?
Who cares about rock and roll?
In other words, there's not much there.
I get the point, yeah.
I'd like to have one in Louisville, Kentucky, but that ain't going to happen anytime soon.
Well, Louisville's Kentucky is close to Freakneck, isn't it?
If I'm not mistaken.
I don't know.
Well, that's down in Nashville, Tennessee.
It's not, I guess it's fairly close.
It depends on what you mean.
It's a lot closer than me going out to Hope or out to Las Vegas with DEF CON.
How long of a drive is it?
Iron Beak.
Hello.
I guess he faded out.
Well, that stinks.
I'll have to go fire that in.
Louisville, Kentucky to Nashville, Tennessee.
Yeah, go fire that off into Google Maps later.
Yeah.
Anyway, if he didn't say anything in the next couple of minutes, I'm just going to drop
the call off my contract.
I think we've lost him.
All right.
I'm here, but I just don't have anything else to say.
Oh, okay.
Well, we asked you as well.
How long from Louisville, Kentucky to Nashville, Tennessee?
I want to say if you drive it and you don't have a lot of traffic, I think you can do it
in about four or five hours.
I think it ended up taking us six or seven because of traffic and various other problems.
Oh, that's not bad.
I didn't hear the question earlier.
Apparently, I dropped out or something.
Yes, I got you dropped out.
Are you calling from a landline phone?
Yes, I am.
Hmm.
It's an IP phone at work, though, so maybe some business is going on there.
Well, that's not exactly a landline phone, then.
Okay, not technically.
A sort of landline.
It's an IP phone.
All right.
Well, thank you very much for those conventions and also Layer 1.
So be there or be square no matter where you are.
I'll be square.
I'll be leaving in Boston.
Hey, I've got to drive all the way to Pasadena from Los Angeles.
And how far is that?
About 15 minutes.
Yeah, bite me.
Well, you guys have a good night.
You too.
Well, you too.
Thank you very much.
Thank you much, man.
No problem.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Um, I'll go read the next email.
Um, hey guys, I heard your episode 131, Amateur Radio and you.
Oh, can I interject here for a second?
Yeah.
Yes.
Dear emailer, amateur, spelled A-M-A-T-E-U-R.
It comes from French.
Read it exactly.
Get it out of your system.
A-M-A-T-E-U-R.
Deep breath.
Just take a deep breath.
It's a nice, cleansing breath.
The evil misspellings are not going to get you.
It's not R-mature without an R, okay?
It's amateur.
It's good.
I always had trouble spelling amateur, to be honest with you.
Blah, blah, blah.
I noticed a lot of talk about Verizon and even Verizon DSL.
Well, I have stated before that I work for a telecom.
Well, that's Verizon, sadly, I admit.
The bad thing is that I do not have any Verizon services.
I once had DSL on a local telephone through them,
but that was wickedly disappointing.
For instance, when I first got DSL, I had no connection whatsoever.
Why?
When Verizon told me I had some wild MAC address for my number,
which I never owned.
So from the get-go, I had to spoof my MAC address just for the connection.
Their exact words were,
Sir, you'll have to find this MAC address to get connected.
Okay, so let me put up with you.
Okay, so let me put out an ATV on it.
On top of that, the issue, randomly, the routing would go south and websites would drop off.
And I don't own a Linux box or call and report a problem unless you have Windows box to boot up.
Don't think he said that one correctly.
I think he tried to say that he has Linux, he doesn't have Windows,
and he can't report a problem that way.
I finally threw their Walmart modem out of the window.
Hmm?
Hey, Booter, what's up, man?
You need to mute yourself, Strom.
All right, I've got your questions.
I'm just going to park you here.
And sacrifice my residential alarm because their phone service sucks.
So here's just a Verizon employee who has no faith in their service.
And no, I don't work with the phone groups.
I work in Internet security.
Oh, and by the way, amateur radio is fun to mess with.
Packet radio in real life is some decent fun.
I'm a licensed amateur, also KGXXXXX, which is a Virginia license.
But like you said, don't give out your call sign.
Lots to laugh.
Good advice, guys.
Cheers, anonymous disgruntled employee.
P.S., I have a PSP, and I attached a wallpaper that I made.
And this wallpaper is the Verizon logo with making migraines every day underneath it.
I just realized I forgot to mute this side of the connection when I checked that call, didn't I?
Why, yes.
Yes, you did.
I'm sitting there, and I hear, this is Strom.
And I'm going, what?
And I hear, okay, Booter, let me put you on hold, and I'll park you right here.
And I'm like, okay, you must be talking to someone else.
So I continued with the email.
Yeah.
Oops.
I got to say, thank you for your Verizon rant.
You should have showed up during our free-fooding hostility episode.
That would have come in handy.
It's strange that they gave you the MAC address answer.
Perhaps it's different in Virginia.
Yeah.
But perhaps that they're different in Virginia, or perhaps that they're feeding you, you know, some grade A bull.
Well, I spoofed my MAC address on Verizon, but that's only because I – actually, no.
I was thinking – let me rephrase that.
I could have spoofed my MAC address on Verizon, but the only reason I did that is because I took their official, wonderful DSL router and modem all built into one unit.
And I read – I basically made it into an Ethernet bridge so I could control my own firewall rules.
And apparently some of their DSL modems, when you tell it to release your DHCP address, it doesn't actually do it.
And if you don't release your DHCP and you try to connect to it again via a different MAC address, it panics and doesn't give you an IP.
So it was very well documented, but I don't know what your problem was.
And technically that only – you lose internet, but you only lose it for like two hours for your lease to expire.
Or at least that's what everyone else said.
It didn't happen to me, thank goodness.
So, well, you know, it's very well documented.
I don't know what your problem was, but I think they refuted you some bull.
Well, I'll post your wallpaper up on my website.
I found – it gave me a chuckle.
And finally, you could also drop your digit because I know you're going to be KG4 because you're from Virginia.
Or at least I assume you are.
So, ho, ho, ho, I owned you.
You pwned him.
Yes.
And we have Bruder – oh, that's going to be on the line, isn't it?
I just had this psychic premonition.
You did?
Yeah.
It's like this little voice inside my head told me while I was reading the email.
Okay, well, yeah, I think you're right.
Let me see if I can grab Bruder here.
Yes.
Another thing about amateur radio, for those of you who don't know, depending on what part of the country that you are in,
you get a signed number on your call sign.
Like, for example, Northeast is 1, New York is 2, and the South is 4.
And I forget where 3 is, but, like, you know, all of California is 6.
And there's all kinds of, like, crazy stuff over there.
And I think Bruder's outside, because I think I heard a car pass by.
You there, Bruder?
Yeah, what's going on, yo?
Not much.
How are you, man?
Ah, relaxing.
He's taking a day off today.
I called in.
Cool, cool.
Oh, shoot.
Let's hope they're not listening to the radio show.
Yeah, but I'm not at work, so it's all good.
So your question involved broadband over power lines, and it's not?
Yeah, we had a meeting at work, a company-wide meeting, and he was talking, our CEO was talking
about how they're looking to get into that.
So I started to do some research, and I looked around a little bit, and basically the only
thing, I haven't found any, like, new articles.
Everything dates back to, like, 2003.
But basically all I really know of is it's supposed to be symmetrical as far as upstream
and downstream?
Yes.
So I was wondering if y'all knew much more about that?
Well, what broadband over power lines is, for those of you who don't know, broadband over
power lines is basically, you know, what you, it means exactly what it sounds like.
You get broadband, and it's over your electrical system rather than a cable system or a, or
your phone line.
It's symmetrical.
I believe it has very long, I don't know what you would call it, an effective radius
from wherever they actually start the signal from, or it's very easy to boost a signal as
opposed to, like, you know, TSL.
The main problem with BPL is that it could be flaky sometimes, and this is what I heard
in 2003.
I actually haven't done much research on it now.
But the main thing in, when it first came out is areas that got it, amateur radio operators
who worked the world bands, that's stuff below 50 megahertz, they had major interference.
And technically, that's a no-no, because with the FCC resignations...
What do you mean, regulations?
No, designated, because it's, well, it's a regulation and a designation.
I thought I heard you say resignations.
I'm like, resignation?
I would like the FCC to resign, but I meant to say designation.
I might have screwed up.
Lord only knows.
Well, okay, the FCC regulations state that certain equipment that can do RF interference
get designated under a certain rule set, and that's called Part 15.
And if you look under certain devices, you'll see, you know, FCC, Part 15, this device may
cause harmful interference or may have to accept harmful interference, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah.
But with the fact that it was interfering with amateur radio, amateur radio is designated
underneath another rule set called Part 97.
And with that, the Part 15 device gets completely blown out by the amateur radio device, and
because the Part 15 device was interfering with amateur radio, the ARRL, we mentioned them
last week, filed complaints on behalf of amateur radio guys saying, hey, this stuff is interfering
with our thing, and therefore is in violation of the FCC rules.
And a major battle ensued, basically, between the ARRL and the people with money.
And as it stands now, the ARRL is, I wouldn't say has one, but is winning.
It's looking very good.
A lot of the stuff that caused interference was of sucky quality anyway.
And the FCC did say to certain companies, you are causing harmful interference, you need
to cut this out.
And so with broadband over power lines, as it stands now, is that it's still being rolled
out.
However, the newer equipment is actually a lot better.
It's not perfect, and people are still bitching and moaning, as it were.
To some degree, they are right, but to some point, you're just going to say, hey, you know,
at least it wasn't as bad as it was.
Go ahead.
Yeah, because I was thinking that...
He was thinking that dropouts.
Wow, your VoIP connection just sucked today.
That would cause...
Are you on a mobile phone booter?
Yes, unfortunately.
Okay, you dropped out.
Can you please repeat that?
I'm saying, like, if it's just plugged into a regular outlet, I'm assuming that it would
pretty much need its own dedicated outlet, because if you had anything else plugged into
it, you know, it would cause interference, like a radio or any other sort of device plugged
into the same outlet.
No, I don't believe it does, actually.
I'm not exactly sure if there's any...
Well, what customer service equipment is involved in this, but from what I've heard, it's fairly
transparent.
I wonder what the billing's like, because, like, everyone's connected up to the same AC source.
Yeah, that's actually an interesting question.
Well, I mean, the whole broadband over power line thing, when I first read about it, it
struck me the wrong way, and it still hasn't...
I have this need.
It still doesn't seem right to me, because at least in my eyes, if you've got a communications
network and you've got a power network, the two should really be separate.
I mean, seriously.
Hey, Ken, like California, you can buy your telephone service from the power company?
Not as far as I know.
LAGWP doesn't have a telephone service.
No, no, what is it?
No, no, Las Vegas.
I remember you mentioned that on one of your recordings.
Oh, in Pahrump, the local electric utility had a SELEC division, I think.
Yes.
But it wasn't over power lines.
It was over...
It was still over the telephone network.
Well, this is the next logical step, isn't it?
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But yes, BPL was interesting, but personally, I'm with Strom.
I don't foresee it taking off anytime soon.
Yeah.
I mean, do y'all think, like...
I don't know, like, if they send out the same sort of signals, but I mean, as far as,
like, you know, like, war driving and stuff, like, wouldn't it be, like, a completely different
way of trying to pick up those signals, or would they just be coming from...
It's not wireless.
It's actually on the network, but what the problem was, was the signal transposed over
the electrical current caused harmful interference with amateur radio equipment.
And basically, you didn't actually pick up data, you just...
I believe the ARRL has, like, actual videos of this actually happening and sound recordings,
and basically what you hear is you just hear this...
And it's very noticeable, and if you want to pick up, like, a lot of, like, distant stations,
you won't be able to hear them with this interference on top of them.
Oh, okay.
So that was what the issue was.
Then I kind of had another question, or question, comment, slash thing.
I had a friend back just about a week before Christmas, and he was at the mall, and he had
his four-year-old daughter with him, and I guess they were in a food court, and it's,
you know, as kids do, his four-year-old daughter started to run off.
So instead of grabbing a cell phone that was on the table, like, he went and chased after
his daughter inside the mall, you know?
And some lady grabbed his cell phone and says, oh, I got me a new cell phone now, and, like,
she disappeared in the crowd as he was still chasing his daughter, which got me thinking.
And I was like, I don't know if there's any service out there, or if they're thinking
about doing it, where, um, from your phone, like, you know, if you got your SIM card in
your phone, where, if you could go through the internet and basically upload all the numbers
that you had into, uh, like, your online account with whatever provider that you have.
Some providers do this already.
Like, Sam and I, we have our sidekicks, and all of the contact information is kept online.
And this is actually how Paris Hilton got owned back last year or so?
I forget when it was.
Yeah, sometime last year.
Yeah, it's basically someone broke into the online version of her account and got all their
contact information that way.
But it's pretty cool because I just, uh, I just have my sidekick replaced because the
old one flaked out on me.
I've used it.
And, um, and I've stuck in my SIM card, and all my settings and all my contacts just downloaded
from, from their servers onto my sidekick.
And it was literally like I had never changed phones.
Mm-hmm.
Beautiful.
Yeah, I've never, I've never used T-Mobile, so I have no idea how their stuff runs.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, I believe, actually, my, yeah.
One of my friends uses, oh, crap, Singular, Singular, that's who they use.
And, um, they have something similar to that, where you can store your contacts online or
whatever you want to call it.
They don't, they actually, they either store it onto a web server or they store it, like,
not on the SIM card, as it were.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
But, I mean, typically the way GSM works is that, uh, all your contacts get stored on
the SIM, so that, uh, should you change phones, your contacts come with you.
And if you're, even if your phone doesn't have an internet uplink, a lot of phone, any
phone that has data cable, uh, some sort of capability to connect to your computer, either
with data cable or Bluetooth or infrared, the software that you download from the phone
manufacturer will, in fact, have the, have the ability to copy your contact onto your
computer.
So, it is kind of a, kind of a moot point at this point, because, uh, I mean, anyway, even
if you can't do that, if your phone is the only way, the only place you're storing your
numbers, and you, you know you can't transfer them off and you lose the phone, that's your
own damn fault for not having the numbers copied somewhere else, like in a book or something.
Yeah.
So, that's the wonderful world of, uh...
Oh, I mean, it's...
Yeah, number of storage.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's sad, but it, it happens.
Mm-hmm.
People just do it.
So, you know, what are you going to do?
Yeah.
And anything could happen.
Your phone could fall in the lake, um, your phone could get horribly crushed by a moving
vehicle, your phone could get, uh, swallowed by a toddler or something, so keep a backup of
your numbers handy in case your phone dies in some cataclysmic, horrible events like, I don't
know, the, the table catching on fire.
All right.
Anything else?
No, no, no, that, that was all I have for you guys, um, y'all keep up the good work.
Thanks.
Oh, and we should, we should congratulate, yeah, we should congratulate Booter Wilder Docs
for, uh, for being part of the new, uh, moderating team on, uh, the, the BinRef forums.
Yes, I mean, it makes it some, it makes it some, it makes it some, it makes it a
It makes it so much easier to get naked pictures of you guys.
Oh, yeah.
Well, we got, we got those in the mods forum, I mean, that's what we got to do.
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
All the mods have, all the, have naked pictures of all the other mods.
And you know I spearheaded that effort, so, um, uh.
Exactly.
I mean, hell, you had, you were giving us naked pictures of you before you were a mod.
Oh, hell yeah, hell yeah.
Well, I mean, that was just about, you know, what is it, uh, from, uh, whatever movie that
would meet the fucker, Circle of Trust.
Circle of Trust.
I'm going to have a hacker honeycomb hideout here.
All right, let me get you all done here.
But congratulations, okay, congratulations, Booter, um, uh, welcome to you on, and, you
know, watch out, everyone watch out for Booter, he's going to smack your ass down.
Mm-hmm.
And hanging of the floor.
All right, yeah, take care.
You're very welcome.
All right, talk to you later, man.
Talk to you later, man.
All right.
And speaking of the forums, that, uh, leads into our next email.
Yes.
It says, this email is just to remind you guys to mention the logo contest on the
forum, DJ Mollusk.
So, what we're doing on the BINREF forums is we have a contest to design new logos for
Binary Revolution and the Digital Dog Bound.
And I have been working on and refining my BINREFORM logo.
Did you know that I actually hadn't noticed this until he sent the email?
You hadn't?
I do not go into that forum at all.
OMG.
Yes.
If I want Photoshop, I go to FARC.
That's, that's, that's my rule of thumb.
Our Photoshop's just not good enough for Black Ratchet.
Well, no, I just, really, if I want to go to Photoshop, I go to FARC.
If I want to talk about hackings, I, I go to BIN, I go to, uh, DDP.
That's what it is.
I go to the BINREFORM.
Just talk about hacking.
And then when I'm done, I go to FARC.
I really shouldn't chide you because there are, I shouldn't chide you because there are
parts of the forum that I don't read either, so.
Yes.
But, uh, you know, yes, it's, it's in the forums in the, uh, Photoshop slash, I forget
what the actual name is.
It's in the Photoshop forum.
Photoshop contest, it's called.
Oh, that's what it is?
Okay.
I forget what it is.
And, uh, yeah, you can check that out and you can add your own logos.
And are we offering a prize or something or just bragging rights?
I don't know if we're offering a prize specifically.
Uh, let me take a look.
The wonder of live radio.
We'll offer a prize tonight.
If you get your, if you make a good logo, we will let you come on the, uh, radio show
and you can talk about whatever you want or something.
Yes.
There we go.
That's your prize right there.
It's a bit of a boobie prize, but.
And not the good type of boobies, but.
Yeah.
This is going to be a little different than other competitions because multiple people
could, quote, win, unquote, and there really isn't any prize other than the
satisfaction of being involved.
So.
Oh, we'll give you that too.
Yeah.
We'll give you that too.
But we're going to up the ante and we're going to offer, um, shit.
I'm, I'm going to, I'm, I'm cleaning up my apartment.
I'm sure I'll find some interesting, weird piece of electronics lying around here.
So I will, uh, offer that as a prize to whoever wins.
Interesting, weird piece of electronics from Strom's floor.
Yes.
Well, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, but write that in the notes for next week and we'll,
we'll go announce it then.
Yeah.
We'll give a prize.
Some type of prize to whoever Strom deems, deems worthy.
So, yeah.
Or we'll, we'll actually, we'll let all the mods go.
Yeah.
To figure that one out.
All right.
Yeah.
So tune in next week to hear the prize.
Want to read, want to read the, yes.
Yes.
Want to read the next email?
Sure.
Why not?
Let, uh, me, see, where'd I put that?
Uh, here we go.
Hi, you're ratchet.
You just had it up.
Yeah, I did.
Well, I went to, this actually was mailed, this actually was directly mailed to me, just
so everyone knows.
Was it actually mailed to the, uh, thing?
But it was, but it was cool enough that no one else actually emailed it, so I put it
on the radio show.
Uh, I feel held loved.
Hi, you're ratchet.
I was listening to you in Strom.
Yeah, in Strom.
I thought, I, my dyslexia kicked in.
I thought it said storm for a second.
I was listening to you in Strom on the bin rev stream, and I heard you talking about
XP Security Center and that annoying red shield.
I'm sure you've already figured this out, but just in case.
If you want to disable individual notifications of the whole shield applet, I do this completely
do the following.
Go to Start Control Panel Security Center.
On the left-hand side is a box out named Resources, with a small bullet-pointed list
of options underneath it.
Select the last option on the list.
This is called Change the Way Security Center Alerts Me.
Three options are listed here.
Firewall, Automatic Update, and Virus Protection.
Each of these has its own tick box.
Just untick the option.
That's a checkbox for all of those of you who don't speak British.
Just untick the option you don't want to be bothered by, or untick the item, or untick
them all, and the shield will disappear from your desktop.
Hope this helps, and if I'm way too late, sorry.
Smiley face.
Love the show, by the way.
You have quite a following over here in England, i.e. as in England-Britain.
I listen religiously, and that's saying something for an atheist.
Smiley face.
The stream this plays all day in my workshop, which slightly annoys my wife and cats, they
prefer music, but seems to have a magnetic effect on clients, etc.
Anyway, better scoot, it's nearly 5 a.m. here.
Insomnia is a truly terrible thing, but I do some of my best work at night.
Swings and roundabouts, I guess.
See ya.
It feels good to get in touch after listening to you for so long.
Maybe I'll email the end of the show with something useful in the future.
Anything's possible.
Regards, and best wishes for the show.
Rainy Day.
Yeah, like I said, this got sent on my personal address, but no one else really talked about
how to fix my problem that I ranted about.
I did get sick and tired of the message, so I did break down and Google it, and I figured
it out, but the exact solution was there that Rainy Day mentioned, and it was fixed, and
so I'm just going to give him shouts out for, hey, at least actually sitting down and writing
it to me.
I'm very shocked that we have a magnetic effect on people.
I'm shocked.
How about you, whether it be the cats or people?
I'm shocked that we have a magnetic effect on both people and cats.
You just like the whole cat sex thing.
Oh, I found the original dog balls image, which I will post into the forum.
Oh, I just can't wait for that.
Rainy Day, I'm glad you liked the show.
Thank you very much for the compliments.
I hope I didn't, you know, you said, you know, you might want to write in with something
useful someday.
This was useful, so we're reading it on the show.
I hope I didn't, like, you know, do, like, a breach of trust or something.
Oh, I emailed it to your personal address.
I didn't mean for you to read it on the show, but it was handy, and you never know, it might
actually fix somebody's problems sometime.
You never know.
We have a last email.
I'm not sure if we want to read this.
I actually think that I want to try to get this guy on the show, because he just did a
very cool thing, and I think I want to probe him and see what else he can do with this.
All right.
Yeah, I read over it, and I think it would be better if he was a guest rather than just
reading the email.
So we're going to try to get him on.
I told him to email the show, and I think I, I mean, I offered him to, when our guest
bailed on us this evening, he didn't bail.
I hate the term bail.
I mean, he used it so he understands what actually it means, but at the same point, I
just want to say, you know, you have an excuse.
Bailing is just not showing up or something.
But, you know, I tried to get him on, and basically he said to me, he IM'd me and said,
you know, oh, I mailed it in.
Can you read it on the show?
And I said, oh, yeah, sure, I can read it on the show.
And I sat down and I read it, and I checked all the links that he had, and I IM'd him
back about 10 minutes later saying, dude, do you want to be on the show tonight?
And he never got back to me.
So we'll hopefully get him on.
It's about TiVo hacking, and he did some very interesting things with his TiVo.
And we'll try to actually get him on here and talk about it, because it was very cool.
And, wow, we actually stretched this out to like an hour and 10 minutes so far.
We still haven't done anything.
Oh, yeah, well, Eggman in the channel had a question, which my IRC client crashed, and
I lost the question.
Oh, I think I can scroll up and get that.
Basically, he was talking about how Verizon used to be...
Oh, no, Hawaiian tele used to be Verizon, yeah.
If you could read it in its entirety.
Quick question for...
Yeah.
Yes, quick question to you telecom nuts.
This is from Eggman on poundbinrev on irc.del.net.
Out in here in Hawaii, we used to have Verizon.
However, now we have Hawaiian telecom.
After listening to the radio about telecoms, I am now curious who the hell owned them.
Any idea?
And how does that fit in with the rest of the telecoms around the country?
All right, here's what happened.
Hawaiian Telephone was an independent company which was bought by GTE sometime, I think,
in the 70s.
I don't know.
I want to see if it's the 70s or the 60s.
We're the one for you, Hawaii.
I'm sorry.
First thing that popped in my mind.
I'm Charleston Heston for Contel.
So, I'm Charleston for Contel.
Buy this phone from my cold, dead hands.
Let's go answer his question.
Yeah.
So, anyway, Hawaiian Tele was bought by GTE.
I don't know exactly when.
I want to say either the 60s or the 70s.
And when GTE merged with Bell Atlantic, when GTE merged with Bell Atlantic, it became Verizon Hawaii.
And then, I think, as part of their refocus on, for something, I don't know, I guess Hawaii wasn't high enough revenue for Verizon.
So, Verizon's the best of the Hawaiian Telephone division.
And I think Hawaiian Telephone is now just sitting there as an independent company, although it might get swallowed up by somebody else.
Well, it looks like an excuse to go to Hawaii to go play on an independent.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, it's still pretty much all GTD5s and whatnot.
But let me see, actually, if I can find their website and answer this live on the show.
Yes.
Actually, if you – I believe on oldschoolfreak.com, Dual Parallel went to Hawaii, and he photographed some payphones and some other telecom-related nonsense of – I believe then it was GTE.
I think he went to pre-2000.
Yeah, it's on oldschoolfreak.com, and if you don't know how to spell that URL, you know, tough doggies, go hang out in the forum, talk to Mattis, he'll tell you.
But yes, yes.
Hmm.
Do they not have their own website?
They have to have their own website.
It's the 21st century.
My cat has its own website.
Ah, hawaiintel.com.
So, let's see.
Hawaiian Telecom, it looks like it's independent about us.
It says,
Hi, we're back and proud to be serving the islands.
This is a brand-new chapter in our rich 122-year history in the islands.
Great things are in store for our customers, the community, and for all of us at Hawaiian Telecom.
Great things like dial tone.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And ring.
And busy.
As an independent telecommunications company headquartered in Honolulu.
Okay, so they are completely independent.
So, yeah.
As I thought, Verizon divested them, and they are now totally on their own.
And sure enough, the person talking about the TiVo,
just to end me back saying, did I miss your message?
Anyway, we'll try to get him on another show,
because he just did some very cool things, and that's what it is.
So, where have you been over the past two weeks, Strom?
We'll just sort of lightly gloss over personal hacking stories.
Oh, let's see.
I went to Chicago, and I played with the 1-8 yet.
Or as a friend of mine who's from there and who's been smoking for, like,
the better part of a half a decade, says,
Chicago!
But, uh...
All right.
Yeah.
But, so no, I went there, had a good time, played with the 1-8 ESS,
made some recordings, which I hope to be posting soon.
Um, and then I, I've just been busy with that, and I've been exhausted from that.
And now I'm recovering, so that's what I've been doing.
Yes.
Recovering by cleaning your apartment.
Yeah.
Well, no, I just thought of that today.
I was like, you know, I'm living like a slob, so I'm going to clean up.
Hell, I'm used to, like, living like a slob.
Um, heck, my, people that came over to my, um, my apartment when I lived in, uh,
actual Broston proper, god, that place was disgusting.
We basically ignored the dishes until they were overflowing and just corrupted together.
Hey, that sounds like my kitchen.
Oh, wow.
Oh, jeez, that fit right in.
It was basically, who could ignore the dishes the longest out of, like,
the six people that lived there in the three-bedroom apartment?
Wow.
Um, what have I been doing?
Uh, I haven't been doing much.
I've, um, I've been coding a lot more, and I've been fooling around with C Sharp and serial
connections and, and network streams and TCP clients and C Sharp, and I've also been, uh,
doing a lot of look at, uh, APRS and, uh, like we talked about last week, and Google Maps,
and there's a lot of some stuff out there, but nothing like I'm picturing, so I might have
a project soon.
Oh, yes, and I also, uh, tied into, I, I, I, well, I'm starting to tie in, uh,
yet another payphone list over to, um, Bell's Mind, so all of the Apple phones as of this
afternoon are posted over in Bell's, uh, posted into Bell's Mind, so that's pretty cool.
It was pretty neat.
He was complaining that he had only, oh, I only had seven new phone number submissions
this month, and I was like, well, let me give you all the Apple.
So, instead of seven new phone numbers, uh, now we have, oh, 2400 something.
Um, another thing that I want to say is go to bellsmind.net and submit numbers, damn it.
Oh, I've got something cool.
In cleaning up, I found a mini-disc I thought I had misplaced.
Uh, a, a whole bunch of recordings of, uh, traffic operator position system from June
of 2005, which I'll be editing, narrating, and putting on my site, uh, shortly.
Mm.
Well, like, people like me will be interested, but everyone's just like, Tops, what the hell
is that?
Yeah, Tops, yeah.
But I'll listen to it, it's cool.
Yeah, Tops, well, maybe I'll explain it and just play a short clip or something on the
next show.
Possibly, that's a good idea.
Yeah.
Um, finally, we have an announcement to make.
We do?
Um, I, yeah, I think we have an announcement to make.
Uh, we, the, the DDP has created a new website.
It's, uh, digitaldogpound.org, and we're trying to have a blog.
Uh, the, we, we, I was told to announce this, or said that we, we could announce it.
Uh, for those of you who don't know how to spell dog and all the, just the wonderful, um,
things on the misspellings that we all use, it's, uh, tinyurl.com,
slash, nine, golf, three, lima, alpha.
Oh, well.
So, digitaldogpound.org, D-A-W-G.
Yeah, well, at, at least that has some roots in, like, uh, slang pronunciation versus, like,
uh, what was the one that irritated me?
Oh, yes.
Amateur.
Which is just...
Also, oops is double O-P-S, not O-P-P-S.
I just wanted to mention that.
Now, that's...
You, you, you could just type that fast.
And, and really, that, that, it sounds the same.
It's, it's, what is it?
On, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on.
No, it's oops versus ops.
Whatever.
It doesn't...
Just shut up.
Ops is O-P-S.
So, you're misspelling it the other way.
Yeah.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Uh, site of the week.
Actually, do we have
announcements?
Not that we have announcements. Do you?
I don't. What is it?
Interzone, 10th through 12th in Atlanta,
Nauticon
in Cleveland. I don't remember the date.
And when is Layer 1?
Layer 1 is April. I want to say
14th through 15th,
but I closed that.
Hang on, hang on. Layer 1...
Yeah, it's April. We can plug it again.
15th through 16th.
Congratulations, you got it right.
Shouts out to
Useless.
Shouts out to
everyone else. And shouts out to
Egghead, but, you know, man, you should have called in.
And shouts out to everyone who called in this
evening, and we actually... I think this show turned out
rather well. Yeah, it did. Not like our
previous shows, of just going there going,
uh... What are we going to talk about now?
Yeah.
But yeah. Do you have any shouts?
Not that I can think
of off the top of my head, no.
Alright.
Uh, site of the week.
We're just going to shouts it out here.
Hexrev.com. This was sent in to us
by StankDog.
So, uh, go visit
Hexrev.com and go see how it's well done.
Oh, my announcement is that I have been
actually accepted to speak at Layer 1.
So, if you want to...
Oh, congratulations!
Yeah, if you guys want to come hear me
speak at Layer 1, uh,
come hear me speak at Layer 1.
I'm going to try to get into
hope. I have a presentation that's
currently in the embryonic stage, and we'll...
Mm-hmm.
Hopefully that'll work out.
Um, email
Radio at BinRev.com
Uh, our closing music tonight is by, uh,
it's on from ocremix.org.
It's, uh, Disco Dam.
Sorry.
Disco Dan.
As opposed to Disco Duck.
Zelda, Link's...
Disco Duck.
Oh, that's a good handle.
Damn.
Uh, Disco Duck.
I actually didn't mean to say that, but...
Disco Dan, uh, Zelda, Link's Awakening,
Braving the Telltale Heights.
They have such weird titles for remixes.
Yeah.
Uh, do we have anything else we want to say?
Not that I can think of.
All right.
So, as always, we will see you next week.
Same hack time.
Same.
Hack.
Channel.
Boy, could you just say that any slower?
Channel.
Oh, yeah.
Bye-bye.
Thank you.