This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers
I see in binary, I speak source code
Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag poem
In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho
Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold
I was a dick with my 56
Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable
On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo
On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a Nero
In a flash, I'll school you on burning dreamcast
You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle
Our exchange you could never stifle
In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug
I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z
Your CG, it's all gonna be free
Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely
You feel that rattle in your bones?
When I tell you we just hacked out Jones
And NASDAQ, leave you flat on your back?
Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack
This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals
Serial code, source code, ISO
Hello and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio
Episode number 133 for January 31st, 2006
I'm Strom Carlson
I'm Black Ratchet
And I'm Dr. Zygman
Yes, we have Dr. Zygman this evening
Scythe
Back, back, back in the saddle again
Or something
I'm a lucky guy, what can I say?
Yes, you're very lucky
Lots of people haven't been on Binary Radio at all
And you've been on like tons of times
I feel the love
Yes, well, yeah, I could make some joke about you really feeling the love
But I'm not witty enough at the moment to do that
Thank God, too
I think he's actually speechless, first time for everything
Oh, I'm sure by the midpoint of the show that he'll fall back to his usual sarcastic self
He's just gotta get rolling
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Gotta go kick back
Finish off that beer he has with him
He's tense for installing little pieces of equipment in his laptop
Yeah, I just got the internal wireless card for my ThinkPad
So I had to practically disassemble the whole thing to install it
And my God, are those pieces tiny
I thought you'd be used to handling all those small things
No, I like them big, Zygman
Ooh, that's pretty good, that's pretty good
I'm just kidding
I know, I know
Less than three
Okay
Did you actually use your approved IBM service manual or whatever they call it?
Yes, I did
I was reading the approved IBM service manual
That's the best thing about IBM
Is that they have all of their shit online
Even for the field techs
Like, I could completely
You can completely field strip an IBM laptop
If you just go to their website
It tells you
For those of you who've never, like, looked at an IBM ThinkPad
They're, like, marvels of engineering
And if you go to the IBM website
Every piece has a part number
And, like, you know
It's, like, six numbers
And
No, it's, like, four letters and numbers
And then another three letters and numbers
And each model has their own little designation
And if you fire that into their supports website
It says, okay
This is the exact configuration of your laptop
That we've made
And here's your service manual if you want it
Here's all your drivers
It's sick
And, like, you come out
And you, like, say
Oh, I want my field service manual
And you say
I want to replace a hard drive
And it says
Well, okay
To replace a hard drive
You need to remove part A
Part B
Part C
Part D
And then it'll give you
If you go to, like, you know
Look up part A
It'll tell you how to remove that
Then
It's just
It's insane
You can, like, completely remove
Every component from your laptop
And
If you put it into, you know
Little bags
Or little jars of formaldehyde
If you'd like it
That'd be pretty cool, actually
That'd be a nice decoration
ThinkPad parts in jars of formaldehyde
I don't know if formaldehyde would be
What you'd want to go with
Would you want to eat something
That was isotonic
And didn't have any corrosive abilities
Is formaldehyde corrosive?
See, this would actually be a question
That you would be able to answer, wouldn't it?
Yeah, you would think
But I'm not sure with a metal
Well, it's not the mad scientist
Meets the computer scientist
So I don't know
I don't have a real answer
And I'm going to say something wrong
So I'm just not going to say anything
If there are any taxidermists
Who are also hackers
In our listenership
Will you please email us
And let us know?
There was something online
Where this guy
Basically
He submerged his motherboard
In some type of liquid
Probably oil
For cooling
I think it was oil
If I remember correctly
I think it was mineral oil
Actually, I believe he first tried it
With deionized water
But it still shorted out
So they then went ahead
And used a mineral oil
I believe
Yeah, I think that would be it
That's just
Wow
Well, I know for a fact
That perfectly purified water
Is actually non-conductive
Correct
The second you have
Any sort of dissolved solids
In the water
Any sort of dissolved minerals
In the water
Then it becomes conductive
Which is bad
Oh, if you put your hand
In the water
It's instantly going to
Become conductive
So you're basically hosed
Mm-hmm
Yeah
I wonder if that's what they did
Perhaps we should
Look them up and email them
Yeah
Could you put your hand
In your water, sir?
Because if so
That would ruin it
Okay, I got a really
Hand of tea on that one
Ah
Yeah, that was terrible
Welcome to BinRev
Bad puns 24-7
Yeah, that's what it is
I just picked
Cool
I always find like, you know
People who overclock
And who are really obsessed with it
They're just insane
They really
They really are
They're worse than Gen 2 users
Yeah
Yeah, I said it
I said it
What are you going to do
About that, huh?
Huh?
Watch out
They're going to take
Their live CDs
And whack you in the head
With them when you're not looking
Yeah, I know
I'm like
My apartment building
Is going to be burnt down
With like
Angry Gen 2 users
Yeah
And then
In the ashes
There will be
The drawn outline
Of the Gen 2 logo
That's a command line
Right?
Emerge
Emerge Arson
Actually, I believe
There was some type of
Compile it from source
Pre-Gen 2 distribution
And one of like
It was
It had all like
Type of like
Fiery commands
Well, thank God
I'm not pissing those people off
Yeah, they called it
Thick
Because it was like
Fire Unix
Or something like that
Wouldn't that be
Fux?
F-U-X
Oh, Fire Unix
Yeah, I guess it is
Yeah
Thick
Thick is good
Maybe they just
Didn't want us to use
The word fucks
I don't know why
Fucks!
It's such a nice word
Yeah
Fucks!
It would go over so well
In a business environment
Oh, Bob
Have you installed
Fucks yet?
Yes
This press release
Is to tell our
Our wonderful
Esteemed clientele
That we have now
Moved to the
Fucks platform
Yeah, we're going to use
We're going to use
Fucks with
The Ash Hole
Distribution
The Ash Hole
Release Client
I don't know
And then, of course
If you had
Asterisk running on that
Then you got
Fucks Asterisk
Or you'd have
Fucks everything
Yeah, yeah
Because it'd be
Yeah, stars, black
Yeah
I'm trying to think
Of like, you know
Some type of
Abbreviation
That would come out
To S-L-U-T
Or
Not coming up
With anything
Well, that
On a tangent
That reminds me of
Something I heard
Of one time
About 22 years ago
In 1984
In California
Because of the
Los Angeles Olympics
You could get
Special Olympic license plates
And
The
There's like a
Two character thing
In the beginning
That occupies a single
Space in the plate
Where it's
LA or US
Or you can have
A blank space there
So someone
You know how the
DMV always checks
License plate combinations
To make sure that
They aren't offensive
Or anything
So someone actually
Figured out a way
To get past the
DMV supposedly
They got
US
And the license plate
Number was
L-U-T
Not bad
I was actually
Reading
We're just sort of
Going
Completely drifting
Off topic here
In the first 10 minutes
But that was
That's what
Makes the show
Fun you see
Yeah
That's what it is
It's just
Random thing
Since it went off
So well last week
Why not a little more
Apparently in Florida
When you request
A custom license plate
You have to explain
What it means to them
Yeah
I don't know about that
I'm in Florida
I don't have a custom license
Same thing in California
When you fill out the form
There's a little
Tiny line at the bottom
What does this mean?
Yeah
See
I've never actually
Done anything in Massachusetts
Like that
So I wouldn't know
I'm in the Zygman's boat
But um
Yeah
I should get a license plate
That says Zygman
That'd be cool
That would work
That wouldn't have
Did you see
Somebody in Virginia
Got a license plate
That says Goatsy on it?
Yes
I sent that to you
Didn't I?
Or was it
You sent it to me?
I think I sent it to you
Because it showed up
On the LA 2600 mailing list
Yeah
You sent it to me
Then I sent it to Koresh
I thought it was
The other way around
Yeah
That was
That was pretty good
Gotta
Actually
Like Massachusetts
Has the most
Asinine
Like license plate rules
I think on our
Custom license plates
You can't have numbers
Not at all
Really?
Yes
Wow
Because when you got
Your license plate
I was thinking about
Getting the
Massachusetts counterpart to it
And I fed it into the
See if your license plate
Is available
And I
You know
Entered it in
And
I came up
And said
Oh
Your license plate
Has numbers
And your license plate
Must meet the following
Requirements
It must start
With a letter
And
Oh no
Yeah
It must start
With a letter
And it can't
Alternate between
Numbers and letters
And I just said
Well that means
You can't have numbers
Period
Just say that
Geez
Well no
I think you can have
Like letters
And then some numbers
But you can't go
Back and forth
Well not in Massachusetts
You can't have numbers
Period
Really?
It means
Two of their rules
Were
You can't have
You can't start
With a number
And you can't
Alternate between
Numbers and letters
Well to me
That sounds like
A, B, C, 1, 2, 3
Would be perfectly
Acceptable
But like
A, 1, B, 2, C, 3
Would not be
See now
I'm going to have
To try that
But I like
I mean I tried it
In a couple of ways
And it just
Did not work
Huh
Yeah
It's Massachusetts
They're stupid
You know
Our RMV
Just sucks
And I'm going to
Get pulled over
Tomorrow
Because I said that
Or technically
I'll get pulled over
On Wednesday
Just so everyone knows
We're not live
We're taping this Monday
Yeah
So sorry
No live call-ins
At the moment
No
You suck
But actually
What I'll do is
Before this goes live
I'll set up
Our call-in number
So that when we're not
Actively doing it live
It will
Default to voicemail
So
Our super cool voicemail
That only one person
Has ever used
Ever
Well that's
That's partly my fault
Because like I set it up
And then
I've just kind of
Left it in live mode
Forever
So no matter when you call
It drops you into the queue
And you just sit there waiting
Just sit there waiting
For six
For hours on end
Listening to music on hold
Waiting to get off
In river radio
Mm-hmm
That'd be good stuff
Good stuff
Yeah
But no I'll set it up
So that it
So that it goes to voicemail
If we're not doing the show live
So if you
If you want to leave us voicemail
Call
888-9-BINREV
Ooh
888-9-BINREV
Oh yeah
You didn't
You didn't listen to last week's episode
You didn't know our super cool new number
Yeah
I did know about it
But I figured I'd plug it again
Oh
Let's do that
Let's all do that in unison
Ready
Ooh
888-9-BINREV
Ooh
Wow
That's just amazing
So
Yeah
We are a crazy bunch aren't we
Yeah we
We are weird
This is just
This episode is just going downhill already
People are just tuning out
Anyway
Well we're going to get better
Um
No let's jump into our housekeeping
I guess
Yeah let's do housekeeping
So we already covered that we're not live
Um
I just want to send a um
You know
A big thank you to everyone who called in last week
Oh yeah
That was very nice
And uh asked up an IRC
Um
I listened to the episode on the podcast
Which is actually something that I
I don't do too often
Because I
I'm here
I've
I'm
I'm the damn host
I know what happened on the radio show
Yeah
But I listened to it last week
Because it was
It was very
Fast and furious
I didn't remember everything that we covered
But uh
It
It went out quite well
And it actually sounded like a pretty decent episode
So
Thank you
Shouts
And all that stuff
Props and stuff
Props and shouts and
Yeah
Um
So
Here's something interesting
Um
I found
I guess before we get into the uh
The personal hacking stories and whatnot
I found
A uh
A whole ton of the
The old bin rev stickers
As I was cleaning up my apartment
The black hole of Calcutta
Yeah
I actually
Um
Had a bunch of bin rev stickers
I believe they're in my drawers right now
If I'm not mistaken
My storage
A lot
My storage
The bin rev stickers are
The stickers are awesome
But there was one minor oversight
Nobody put the website
On the stickers
No it's
What it is
It's just an in joke
Everyone
Everyone knows about it
Like you know
It's sort of like our secret sign
Mm-hmm
Oh
The break tag is our secret sign
Nice
Yeah
Cool stuff
Every
Every website loves us
Yeah
Except um
Except hphost.com
Or whatever it is
The hphost people
Who still have not gotten back to me
Regarding the bloody
Login
Because I want to get off
Because bin rev wants to get off their damn list
But
Mm-hmm
We won't get into that
Well I'm actually googling
For the break tag
To see if we show up
And I'm on like
Page five of results
And we don't show up anywhere
I'm
Yeah
Well cause
Cause like
Yeah
The break tag won't work
Because it completely disregards the
Yeah
It should parts it out
Yeah
Well no
It's finding everything
What it's doing is
It's taking out the angle brackets
And searching for BR
Yeah
That's exactly
Yeah
It's taking out the brackets
So
Mm-hmm
Yeah
BR is
It's a common thing
What is that
No
What's that
Beryllium
No
Beryllium is B-E
Yeah
I don't think there is a
Oh no
It's not boron
Cause that's just B
Yeah
No
Hmm
Come on
You're the science major
Zygman
We'll let you think about that
We'll let you trust our next housekeeping
Um
I'm gonna send a
A
Request out to the audience
Is there a lawyer in the house
Um
More than a few people have suggested this topic to me
It's um
Basically they
They want to have a legal expert on the show
And just
It
There's someone who's truthful about internet technology
You know
Etc
Understands all the crap that goes on
And apparently
If we can pump them enough
We'll probably get questions
And
You can have all your questions answered about
Legal
Legal stuff
Like you know
I have my
Copy
I have my website full of pornwares and mp3s
How many years would I go to federal pounding in the ass prison
Well actually you know
I think I know someone
So
I'll try and get him on
Well if you
You can try to get someone on
And if someone else knows somebody
Who's fluent
Like
If someone's from the EFF is listening
You know
Yeah
If someone from the EFF is listening
Or if someone knows someone from the EFF
Who may be interested in doing that
Um
I'd be much obliged
If you could tell them to contact us
Or put me in contact with them
And if we can get two or three of them
Hell the more the merrier
We can have a nice little round table discussion here
Oh yeah totally
Yeah
Meet the lawyers
Yes
Have we figured out if there's a BR element yet
I'm looking at the periodic table
And it doesn't appear to be a
Oh there is
There is
Uh
Bromide
Aww
What a bunch of noobs
No sorry
Not bromide
Bromine
This is I think
It's not
It's not like
Is a bromide
A anti
Anti
Antacid
It's right
It's under chlorine
I'm looking at it all in Czech
So it's not in English
Oh here we go
Here it is in English
It's what
I see
I was downloading from some website in Czechoslovakia
So it was all in Czech
Rather than
And it's
This one doesn't even have the names
So
I think it's bromine or bromide
I can't remember
Well it's definitely bromine
Bromide is when it's
When it starts to become a compound
When it's just the element
It's bromine
Ah okay
Thank you Zygman
Learn all the wonderful things
About your elemental tables
Here on FinRef Radio
We're doing all kinds of stuff tonight
We're talking about
You know
Lawyers
And elements
And
Previously
We were doing our taxes
Yeah
We're just all kinds of crazy
Wild and wacky stuff tonight
Nowhere else will you see
An instant shift from lawyers
To the periodic table of the elements
Just like that
I mean
What more can you possibly want
Out of your
Underground Hacker Radio show
Like hacker stuff
Which is what we're doing
We're covering tonight
Oh
I didn't think anybody wanted
To talk about that
Yeah
Who cares about that crazy stuff
I mean
Computers
Yeah
We're garbage
No one uses those things yet
We can talk about
Titanium
Oh we can talk about
Titanium power books
And there we go
We can have a nice little
Successful break there
Yeah
Element number 43
Yeah
Or Einsteinium
Or Seaborgium
What about Wolfstrom
Or
What does that mean?
That's tungsten
Wolframite
That's a
Yeah
I don't know
I
Literally
If the teacher
Didn't like me in chemistry
I would have failed
Like there was no tomorrow
I don't think I passed
A single thing in that test
But the guy was old
And I just decided
I was friendly with him
For some reason
Because he
Apparently knew my father
Somehow
And I just talked to him
Every day before class
And he used to let me
Off the sea
So
Yay
American educational system
Woo
Feeling
You have to be proud
At a time
Yeah
And then I took physics
The next two years
And got straight A's
So
It all works out
In the end
Chemistry just was not my thing
Anyway
So since we're actually
Talking about
You know
Computer stuff
Let's actually
Talk about the topic
Tonight
This is a continuation
Of
I had it written down
As episode 130
But I don't actually
Can't verify this right now
IRC
Yeah
IRC
The one that Strom wasn't on
Or the first one
That Strom wasn't on
Was going down to Tahiti
Or wherever he was
I was in Brazil
No
You were in Brazil
I forget what it was
Or Guantanamo Bay
Or North Korea
Or whatever we sent you
Last week
Yeah
We had tons of
Leftover material
Basically
I think
I think we covered
About 50%
Of what we originally had
And
More than a few people
Actually
There was like
Five or six people
At least
Who came up to me
In the IRC channel
And said
Hey
When are you going to
Talk about all that
Rest of that stuff
You just kind of
Lightly glossed over
Toward the end
And I
Said
Well
Guess we'll do
Another show
Or something
It is episode 130
Wait
You used
Natalie
As the closing music
Yes
I was
I was tired
And lazy
And it was like
1230 in the morning
And I had to get up
At 6
So
Hey
They need more plugs
Damn it
Yeah
It's been a half year
No one will remember
And no one would have noticed
Until you said something
Damn you man
Damn you
Yes
It's all my fault
Yes
Do you want to
Head into the email
Yeah
Sure
Why not
Our first email
Is from
Cbelly
And he writes
Hello
Insert any and all
Host names here
I know you must be tired
Of talking about
iPods
Gen 2
And telephones
By now
What
Never get tired
Of talking about
Telephones
But hopefully
Ill-humory
I've heard some
Of the hosts
Mention having
Sip phones before
I'm considering
Using VoIP
But I'm not sure
What you look for
In a phone
Can you make
Suggestions on
What some of
The most important
Traits to look for
Might be
Or even give
Suggestions of
Brand names
Or particular
Models that might
Have fun features
I'm especially
Interested in the
Portable Wi-Fi
Phones
I'd normally
Do my own research
But I'm clueless
About phones
And I don't know
Where to start
Thanks
Cbelly
So
Let's see
The phones
Ratchet and I
Use are
Cisco 7960
Phones
And
Personally I like
Them
I'm almost
Enamored with
Mine
Do you like
Yours Ratchet
I love mine
Oh yeah
They're fantastic
Phones
I know
Yeah
Thank you
They have
Sneeze buffers
Too
Little sneeze guard
Right in the phone
Top of your
LCD
All wet
And sticky
I mean
They're kind of
Pricey
But they're
Really well
Built telephones
And
They strike me
As the kind of
Phones that'll
Stand up to
Years and years
And years of abuse
And
They're pricey
But
In all
They're worth it
Oh yeah
Yes
And you can get them
Used on eBay
For about
300 bucks
Or 250 bucks
Is there anything
That's like
Is there a more
Low end phone
That you would
Choose if you
Weren't ready to
Spend $250
On a
VoIP phone
Something that
You would recommend
For the
Entry level user
Well if you're
Like really
Really entry level
And you just
Want a toy
To play with
Not actually
Use the
Serious telephone
You could
Always get the
Grandstream
Budgetone phones
Or possibly
The SNOM
But that's
Those are really
Crappy phones
It turns out
That
Sephora
Is
Has come out
With a really
High quality
Telephone
Called the
Sephora
SPA
941
Which
Actually looks
Kind of like
The Cisco
7960
Which
Isn't
All that
Surprising
Seeing as
Cisco
Now owns
Linksys
And Linksys
Bought
Sephora
So
Merger
Mania
OMG
Oh my god
I mean
Just to compare
The phones
I had one
Of those
Cheapy
Little silly
Phones
And
I
I used
It
Up at
From my
Office
And I
Just
I had it
At my
Office
So I
Could
You know
Access my
VoIP
And
I
Started
Playing
Then I
Got a
Cisco
Phone
About like
Two months
After that
And the
Phone
Just like
I was
Just so
Used to
All this
The wonderful
Cisco
Goodness
And
When I
Was using
The other
Phone
I was
Just like
Oh
This thing
Sucks
And
It's
More along
The lines
Of not
Knowing
What
Not knowing
What good
Is
Until you
Actually
Did it
And
Eyes wide
You know
Just
Hear no
Evil
See no
Evil
And
Yeah
All that
Kind of
Stuff
Yeah
The build
Quality
On the
Chibi
Ones
Is
Kind of
Like
Those
Five
Dollar
Phones
That
You
Buy
At
The
Drug
Store
Except
They
Speak
Sip
Instead
Of
Plugging
Into
Your
Phone
Line
So
They're
Good
For
Beige
Boxing
Not
Even
In
The
Least
No
They're
Not
They're
Not
Made
By
Con
Air
Oh
Sorry
I said
The
Quality
Is
Equivalent
Not
The
Phones
Are
Made
By
Listen
What
Will
We
Do
With
You
I
Get
A
Con
Air
VoIP
Phone
I
Know
Certain
People
Would
Just
Like
You
Know
Completely
Go
Into
VoIP
If
They
Have
That
Oh
Yeah
Some
People
Would
Go
Into
Spasms
If
They
Had
That
But
You
Like
Stick
An
Oldschool
Freak
Sticker
On
It
In
To
Make
It
Really
True
Freak
Phone
Or
Whatever
I
Should
Rice
Out
My
If
I
Get
Other
Cisco
Phone
Is
Just
Rice
It
Out
With
Old
School
Freak
Stickers
Do
You
Have
Some
I
Have
Old
School
Freak
Stickers
I
Have
Old
School
Freak
Stickers
I
Have
DC
350
Stickers
And
I
Have
Bin
Reef
Stickers
All
Of
Which
I
Picked
Up
At
Bin
Reef
305
Oh
Cool
Yeah
I
Have
To
Make
I
Think
We
Have
To
Do
Two
Things
We
Have
To
Make
New
Dell
System
Stickers
But
So yeah
As far
As the
Portable
Wi-Fi
Phones
I
Haven't
Played
With
Any
Of
Do
You
Know
Anyone
Who's
Played
With
Them
Ratchet
No
Not
Really
I
I've
Heard
That
The
Cisco
79
7940
7920
7940
I
Think
Their
Wi-Fi
One
That
Costa
Armand
Like
Apparently
That
Is
Pretty
Nice
That
Is
The
7940
Is
The
7940
Is
The
Two
Line
Version
Of
The
7960
Oh
Really
I
Always
Get
That
No
Cause
I
Think
We
See
I
Always
Get
Those
Confused
Cause
I
Think
You
Know
7960
Six
Lines
7920
Two
Lines
Well
Let
Take
A
Look
While
You
No
It's
The
7920
You're
Right
You're
Right
Cause
I
Remember
Like
Falling
Flat
On
My
Safe
Cause
I
Was
Dead
Sure
The
7940
Was
The
Portable
Phone
But
It
Isn't
It
Basically
It's
A
Wi-Fi
Phone
But
It's
Also
A
Cisco
Phone
And
I
Believe
It
Could
Support
The
SIP
Firmware
If
I'm
Not
Mistaken
Apparently
Shoot
What
Is
It
Is
XYZEL
I
Believe
They
Actually
Make
A
They
Make
A
Good
Phone
And
The
Y
SIP
W
I
SIP
And
Those
Are
Basically
The
Two
Major
Players
Right
Now
Are
The
Three
Major
Players
Technically
Cisco
I
Think
The
Cisco
One
Will
Probably
Run
You
Close
To
Four
Or
Five
Hundred
On
eBay
I
Don't
Even
know
Yeah
I
Don't
Even
Want to
Know
How much
It
Actually
Cost
New
But
I
I've
Read
People
Who
Used
It
And
They
Say
It's
Like
A
Cisco
Phone
But
It has
Wi-Fi
And
If
It's
Made
By Cisco
It has
To
Be
Good
Cisco
Wireless
7920
With
Desk
Charger
And
Extra
Battery
Buy it
Now
$449
How much?
$449
Yeah
Buy it
Now
One arm
One leg
Right
Let's
See
There's
One
That has
Like
Two
Days
Left
To
Go
And
It's
Currently
At
$275
With
No
Bids
So
Let me
Actually
Do
This
If
I
Sign
In
And
Then
I
Can
Search
For
The
Closed
Ones
I
Can
See
What
They
Actually
Went
For
Yes
Bin
Rev
Radio
Working
Hard
To
Bring
You
Real
Pricing
Live
Screw
Price
Watch
Dot
Let's
Go to
Bin
Rev
Radio
Exactly
So
What
Makes
This
A
More
Quality
Phone
Just
The
Fact
That
It's
Heavier
Or
Does
It
Have
A
Better
Sound
Quality
To
It
Does
It
Require
Like
Is
It
Doing
More
Work
Like
A
More
Processor
Built
Into
The
Handset
So
It's
Doing
Its
Own
Compression
And
Decompression
Like
Why
Do
I
Want
A
Cisco
Phone
Rather
than
Why
Is
That
Phone
Worth
$400
Well
It's
Just
Solidly
Built
It's
Actually
It's
Solidly
Built
That's
The
First
Part
It
Does
Have
A
Lot
Of
Bells
And
Whistles
On
It
It's
A
Very
Complete
Phone
It's
A
Phone
That
Basically
All
Of
The
Stuff
That
You
Can
Do
Like
With
One
Of
These
High
End
Business
Model
Phones
You
Find
Out
On
PBX
You
Can
Do
All
In
Software
On
A
Cisco
Phone
You
Can
Like
Conferencing
Calls
You
Can
Put
People
On
Hold
And
Park
Them
You
Can
Instantly
Call
Into
Your
Voicemail
With
One
Touch
Of
A
Button
There's
This
Whole
XML
Interface
You
Can
Program
With
It
And
You
Can
Interface
With
Services
Right
From
Your
Phone
On
The
LCD
Screen
That
They
Have
Call
Quality
Wise
It's
Good
And
The
Handset
And
It's
Very
Comfortable
To
Use
It
Feels
Like
A
Real
Phone
It's
Not
One
Of
These
Cheap
Cast
Molded
Phones
It's
Cast
Molded
Actually
But
They
Use
Really
High
Quality
Plastic
And
It's
Engineered
To
Very
Specific
Tolerances
The
Plastic
Pieces
Don't
Flex
And
They
Don't
Creak
Against
Each
Other
It's
A
Solid
Feeling
Phone
And
I
Mean
Personally
For
Me
The
Tactile
Feel
Of
Using
Something
Is
Really
Important
And
You
Just
Get
The
Impression
That
It's
Really
Engineered
With
Quality
And
Fit
And
In
Mind
It's
Kind of
Like
The
Difference
Between
Driving
Say
A
BMW
And
Driving
Like
A
Kia
Sophia
You
Know
They're
Both
Cars
They both
Have
Doors
And
Wheels
And
An
Engine
And
Glass
And
They both
Get
You
Where
You
Need
To
Go
But
The
BMW
Is
So
Much
More
Refined
All
Right
I
Think
That
Just
About
Settles
It
Yeah
So
Yeah
I'm
Looking
At
The
Prices
On
These
Cisco
7920
Phones
And
It
Looks
Like
On
The
Low
End
One
Went
For
$275
But
Typically
It
Seems
They're
Going
For
Between
$320
And
$360
With
Like
An
Upper
Limit
Of
About
$410
So
Be
Prepared
To
Lay
Down
Three
And
A
Half
Bills
For
A
Cisco
Phone
For
Their
For
Their
Portable
Phone
For
The
Wireless
Phone
Yeah
The
Desk
Phone
Will
Run
You
More
Like
$250
I
Think
Yeah
But
Apparently
The
Sephora
Is
Just
As
Good
Build
Quality
And
It's
Only
$150
Well
I'll
Have
To
Look
Into
One
Of
Those
When
I
One
Of
Those
For
Testing
Yes
Because
Lord
Knows
You
Don't
Have
Enough
Well
Hey
If
I
Gotta
Have
Something
To
Recommend
To
My
Clients
I
Better
Have
Recommend
Something
That
I
Actually
Like
True
All
Right
Do
You
Want
To
Get
Into
The
Next
Email
Yeah
Let's
Go
To
The
Next
Email
Our
Next
Email
Is
From
Eggman
Who
Called
In
Last
Week
Thank
You
Eggman
For
Calling
Thank
You
Eggman
All
Right
Forward
After
A bit
Of
Trouble
I
Had
With
Changing
My
Number
A
Few
Months
Back
I
Believe
I
Stumbled
Over
A
System
In
Which
I
Could
Change
My
Number
At
Will
If
I
Could
Generate
A
Hash
For
It
The
Basic
Setup
Is
Like
This
In
Your
Phone
You
Can
Access
The
Service
Menu
Via
Command
Code
Or
Having
It
Simply
In
The
Phone
Options
From
Here
You
Can
View
And
Edit
Your
Phone
Number
And
MSID
Due
To
A
Little
Trouble
I
Had
When
Changing
My
Number
I
Found
You
Can
Have
A
Number
Assigned
That
Is
Not
What
Your
Service
Plan
Assigns
You
Can
Make
Calls
From
This
Number
And
While
You
Can
Receive
On
That
Number
You
Can
Receive
Calls
On
Your
Real
Number
Basically
I
Yes
Yeah
Sprint
Mobile
Phones
I'm
Guessing
I
Mean
I
Don't
Know
Let's
Start
Cloning
Because
That's
What
It
Kind
Of
Looks
Like
That's
The
Road
He's
Going
To
Cloning
It
Doesn't
Look
Like
He's
Walking
Down
The
Road
To
Cloning
It
Just
Looks
Like
He's
Walking
Down
The
Road
To
Somehow
Being
Able
To
Figure
out
The
Hash
Or
A
Phone
Number
That
You
Want
To
Appear
As
Your
Outgoing
Number
So
I
Guess
Let's
Give
Out
The
URL
He
Gave
Because
I
Think
He's
Trying
To
Judge
This
For
The
Entire
Listening
Audience
Yeah
It's
Sprint
Phones
Dot
My
Pun
BB
That's
M-Y-P-U-N
As in
Nancy
BB
Dot
Com
Slash
Index
Dot
PHP
And
He
Passworded
So
Yeah
He
Passworded
It
So
Should
We
Give
Out
The
Username
And
Password
Yes
Okay
Hold on
Let's
Go
It's
Tiny
URL
Dot
Com
Slash
Charlie
Sierra
Whiskey
Juliet
X-Ray
At
The
Username
He
Gives
Us
Is
Bin
Rev
Radio
And
The
Password
Is
Very
Complex
You
Might
Want
To
Get
A
Pen
And
Paper
For
This
One
It
Is
Repeat
After
Me
One
Zygman
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
So the
Password
Is
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
Kind of
Password
Is
That
It's
Like
Something
Kind of
An
Idiot
Would
Have
On
His
Luggage
I
Should
Change
My
Luggage
Password
So
But yeah
What it
Sounds
Like
Is
Well see
I don't
Know
How
I
Guess
Changing
That
In
And
Of
Itself
Wouldn't
Technically
Be
Illegal
But
The
Question
Comes
Around
As
To
Whether
Or
Not
The
Number
That
Sent
Out
When
You
Call
Based
On
That
Is
What
Used
For
Billing
Or
Not
Because
If
When
You
Change
That
Number
The
Call
Gets
Billed
To
The
Number
That
You
Send
Out
Not
The
Number
Associated
With
Your
Telephone
Set
Then
That
Quite
Definitely
Falls
Under
The
Category
Of
Toll
Fraud
Yes
So
Personally
The
Way
He
Was
Explained
To
Me
It
Sounds
Like
That
Special
Number
There
Is
It
Just
Sounds
Like
Translates
Over
To
CPN
When
You're
Heading
Outside
Of
Sprint
Network
Or
Onto
The
Actual
PSTN
Personally
I just
Think
It's
An
Interesting
Trick
For
Spoofing
Caller
ID
But
It's
Probably
Nothing
More
Than
A
Parler
Trick
Yeah
I
Don't
Know
I'd
Want
To
See
How
It
Interacts
With
The
Billing
System
Before
I
Make
Any
Call
Yes
Very
True
We
Got
A bit
Of
A
Spam
Today
And
We're
Going
To
Make
Fun
Of
It
But
I
Think
We're
Running
Short
On
Time
And
Actually
We're
Just
Sort
Of
Gas
Bagging
A
Little
Too
Long
So
We'll
Go
Straight
Into
Oh
Come on
No
This
Quick
No
We can
Save
It
For
Next
Week
Okay
We'll
Do
It
Next
Week
Yes
It's
Just
Something
We
Occasionally
Get
These
Emails
And
We
Look
At
What
The
Actually
Give
This
Person
Credit
Or
I'm
Just
Going
To
Rename
The
Guy
To
Jim
Fuckface
And
I'm
Going
To
Rename
His
Company
To
J
Random
Shitbag
Incorporated
Hi
My
Name
Is
Jim
Fuckface
With
J
Random
Shitbag
Incorporated
Provider
Of
Award
Winning
PC
Pinpoint
Technical
Support
And
Help
Desk
Services
I
Was
Wondering
How
We
Go
About
Getting
Reviewed
Or
Receiving
Press
On
Your
Site
For
Our
Consumer
PC
Support
Services
We
Could
Offer
Free
Tech
Support
To
Your
Users
During
A
Technology
Spot
Or
Something
Like
That
To
Provide
Benefit
To
Your
Listeners
If
This
Is
Of
Interest
To
You
Please
Email
Me
The
Appropriate
Contact
Name
To
Discuss
Further
Thank
You
Very
Much
For
Your
Consideration
You
Can
Check
Us
At
www.jrandomfuckface.com
Or
Contact
Me
It's
Good
For
A
Laugh
I
I'm
Considering
The
Irony
Of
Telling
People
On
The
Radio
Show
To
Listen
To
The
Radio
Show
Before
You
Spam
Us
With
Your
Commercial
Email
But
If
They
Don't
Listen
To
It
They're
Not
Going to
Hear
This
Warning
Anyway
Oh
Chicken
The
Egg
Problem
Chicken
The
Egg
Yeah
So
Actually
But
Like
You know
When
We
First
Took
Over
The
Show
We
Got
An
Email
Someone
Trying
To
Promote
Their
Book
On
Mastering
Excel
Oh
Yeah
I
Remember
That
Yeah
I
Was
Just
Looking
At
It
Like
My
Goodness
People
Oh
And
Completely
Dropped
Their
Docs
Too
It
Was
Pretty
Funny
It
Was
Actually
The
Publishing
House
That
Did
It
So
Yeah
Technically
It's
Not
The
Author's
Fault
But
He
Could
Have
Been
Arranged
For
An
Interview
And
We
Were
Very
Happy
Oh
Let's
Go
Get
Him
On
There
All
Right
Personal
Hacking
Stories
Sigmund
What
Have
You
Been
Doing
Lately
I
Suppose
I'll
Start
There's
A whole
Plethora
Of
Things
But
I
Think
You
Know
What
I
Think
I'm
Going
To
End
Up
Sticking
With
I
Had
The
Chance
To
See
The
Creator
Of
Asterisk
He
Came
And
Did
A
Presentation
For
My
Local
Lug
Which
Is
The
Linux
Users
Group
Mr.
Spencer
Himself
Yes
Himself
Now
I
Have
To
Say
That
I
Happen
To
Think
And
I
Hate
To
Keep
Bringing
It
Up
But
I
Think
Asterisk
Is
A
Good
Product
You
Know
I
Think
It's
An
Excellent
Piece
Of
Software
It
Spents
A
Lot
Of
Time
On
It
Does
Exactly
What
It
Does
It
Does
A
Good
Job
And
Here
We
Had
The
Creator
Of
One
Of
The
Fastest
Growing
Most
Widely
Used
Pieces
Of
Software
The
Door
Into
The
Telecommunications
Industry
For
The
Open
Source
Community
And
These
People
Are
Asking
Him
About
Dial
Plans
I
Just
Wanted
To
Look
At
These
People
And
Be
Like
Listen
If
You
Are
Going
To
The
Creator
Of
A
Piece
Of
Software
Let's
Ask
Some
Technical
Questions
Like
Hey
How
Did
You
Overcome
This
Issue
Or
Hey
Don't
You
Have
Funny
Story
About
When
X
Happened
And
You
Were
Trying
To
Handle
The
Passing
Of
Whatever
Variable
Or
Whatever
Because
I
Kind
Of
Got
The
Feeling
That
I
Was
Going
To
Go
And
He
Was
Going
To
Tell
Us
About
The
Technical
Aspect
And
He
Was
Going
To
Answer
Some
Questions
Like
Why
Did
You
Do
This
Like
This
And
How
Did
You
Get
The
Aster
Gateway
Interface
To
Work
But
People
Just
Asking
Questions
That
If
You
Were
Read
The
Asterix
The
Documentation
Or
Spent
Ten
Minutes
On
The
Internet
Searching
You
Could
Have
Found
It
I
Just
Felt
That
It
Was
Really
Disrespectful
And
I
Hate
To
Put
Somebody
Up
On
A
Pedestal
But
This
Is
The
Guy
Who
Wrote
Game
Asterix
This
Is
The
Guy
Who
Got
A
Head
On
His
Should
Let
Take
Advantage
Of
It
And
Let's
Talk
To
Him
And
Let's
Get
Some
Detail
About
Some
Nice
Juicy
Coding
Stuff
And
Here
People
Were
Asking
Them
Questions
That
Like
I
Just
Couldn't
Understand
What
Was
Going
On
So
It
Kind
Of
Upsetting
So
I
Guess
My
Real
Thing
That
I
Want
People
To
Get
From
This
Little
Rant
That
I'm
Doing
Is
If
You're
Going
To
See
A
Creator
Of
A
That's
My
Little
Rant
And
My
Personal
Hacking
Story
Have
A
Glass
Of
Water
Thank
You
I
Feel
Much
Better
Now
Apparently
Is
That
It
Or
Is
There
Something
Else
Or
Alright
That's
My
Rant
I'll
Go
Real
Quick
And
Just
Say
I've
Done
A
Lot
Of
Work
Also
On
My
Search
Engine
That
I'm
Going
To
Hope
That
I
Can
Get
The
URL
Out
Just
So
I
Can
Get
It
Tested
And
Have
All
The
Hackers
Go
At
It
And
See
If
You
Can
Break
It
It's
Not
Quite
Ready
Yet
But
I'm
Working
On
An
Ad
Engine
Now
It's
A
Lot
Like
Google
Ad
Words
And
It
Doesn't
Have
The
Exact
Same
Features
Because
When
You
Write
It
Yourself
You
Always
Think
There
Things
You
Can
Do
Better
But
That's
What
I'm
Getting
Into
Now
And
It's
A
Lot
And
Break
It
For
Me
And
Let
Me
Know
What's
Going
Down
So
Keep
Tuned
For
When
I
Give
Out
That
URL
Hopefully
It'll
Be
Posted
In
The
Forums
Next
Week
That's
The
Hope
Seriously
You
Should
Register
Ziggle.com
Z-I-G-G-L-E
I
registered
A cool
Domain
It was
Dr.
Zygman
Rockswords
The
Net
Just
So
I
Can
Have
It
For
Reverse
DNS
For
IRC
Yeah
No
Oh
Someone
Owns
Ziggle.com
Actually
What
Bastards
Yeah
Registered
October
4th
2005
Oh
Just
Missed
It
Just
Missed
It
So
Sad
Oh
Well
Someone
In
North
Carolina
Quick
Take
Them
Down
All
Gentoo
Users
Go
Burn
His
House
Down
Rather
Than
Mine
What
Have
Been
Doing
Strong
Besides
Cleaning
Let
Me
Think
I've
Been
Cleaning
I
Bought
Some
Stuff
Cheap
On
Craigslist
But
That
Doesn't
Really
Count
As
Hacking
Stuff
What
Stuff
Computer
Related
Furniture
I
Bought
Chairs
And
A
9000
BTU
Air
Conditioner
For
40
bucks
Well
That's
Not
Really
Computer
Related
So
Well
It's
Cooling
Right
Well
You
Used
Computer
To
Buy
It
So
I
Guess
I
Guess
That's
Kind
Of
Covering
It
Yeah
No
The
Is
To
Buy
A
Wireless
Card
And
Install
It
In
My
Think
Pad
Just
So
Everyone
Doesn't
Make
The
Same
Mistake
I
Did
That's
Like
A
Mini
PCI
Card
That
Actually
Is
Something
You
Install
Internally
When
He
Was
Saying
Oh
Man
I
Gotta
Go
Sit
Down
And
Install
My
Wireless
Card
I
Was
Expecting
Him
To
Slide
This
Little
PC
Card
In
But
Slightly
More
Complicated
Than
That
Yeah
I
Had
To
Remove
The
Keyboard
And
The
Hard
Drive
And
The
Bezel
Thing
Um
What
Have I
Been
Doing
Yeah
Work's
Been
I've
Been
Waiting
On
Other
People
To
Do
Stuff
So
Rather
Than
Actually
Just
Sit
Around
And
Surf
Pointly
On
The
Internet
I've
Been
I've
Been
Pooing
Around
With
All
Kinds
Of
Crazy
Stuff
Um
I've
Been
Getting
I
Got
Bit
Once
Again
By
The
APRS
Bug
And
For
Those
Of
You
Who
Don't
Remember
What
APRS
Is
We
Covered
It
On
Episode
131
With
Not
Theory
And
It's
GPS
And
Radio
It's
Fun
With
All
Kinds
Of
Crazy
Maps
And
Cartography
That's
Just
A
Fun
Protocol
And
I've
Been
Messing
Around
With
That
And
Working
On
All
Kinds
Of
Stuff
With
Combining
The
Internet
And
All
Kinds
Of
Just
Fun
Things
And
Just
Random
Hacks
That
I've
Been
Doing
And
I
Might
Release
It
Eventually
Found
A
Very
Interesting
Project
I
Actually
Heard
About
This
A
While
Ago
But
It's
Actually
Approaching
Up
And
I
Think
I'll
Just
Talk
About
It
Now
It's
A
Suit
Sat
Now
Oh
Yeah
Suit
Sat
I
Heard
About
This
Yeah
Suit
Sat
Is
Pretty
Cool
What
Basically
Is
Going
To
Happen
Is
The
Crew
On
The
International
Space
Station
Has
This
Old
Suit
That's
Really
Not
Fit
For
Human
Use
Anymore
It's
An
Old
Russian
Space
Suit
It's
An
Old
Russian
Space
Suit
That
I
Think
Camera
And
A
Ham
Radio
And
A
Small
Computer
On
Board
And
They
Are
Going
To
Toss
It
Out
The
Air
Lock
And
It's
Born
To
Become
An
Orbiting
Satellite
For
Some
Time
I
Don't
Actually
Think
They
Have
An
ET
Of
How
Long
It's
Going
To
Last
I
Think
It's
Supposed
To
Last
Like
A
Couple
Week
And
It's
Predicted
To
Burn
Up
In
The
At
A
Few
Month
That's
Not
Surprising
So
Basically
What it
Is
It's
Going
To
Transparent
A
Beacon
On
A
Certain
Frequency
145.099
Megahertz
Or
990
Megahertz
And
You
Can
Listen
To
It
And
Basically
What
They've
Tried
To
Do
Is
They've
Tried
To
Make
It
So
You
Can
Pick
It
Up
On
Any
Type
Of
Radio
You
Have
That
Can
Pick
Up
The
Frequency
Like
A
Police
Scanner
Or
A
Ham
Radio
Or
Something
Else
I
Should
Get
My
Scanner
Out
And
Try
And
Listen
To
It
Maybe
What
I'll
Do
For
People
Who
Don't
Have
Scanners
Maybe
I'll
Try
And
Hook
Up
Some
Type
Of
Streaming
Audio
Thing
If
I
Can
Pick
It
Up
I
Need
To
See
If
I
Can
Pick
It
Up
First
Who
Knows
Let
Find
The
B-K-U-W
Bravo
Sorry
B-K-U-V-V
So
Bravo
Yeah
I thought
That was
One
Thing
Bravo
B-K-U-V-V
Yeah
Bravo
Kilowatt
Uniform
Victor
Thank you
And
If
You
Go
To
That
Website
There's
Actually
A
Picture
Of
The
A
Bunch
Of
Pictures
Of
The
Actual
Suit
That
It
So
There's
A
Bunch
Of
Pictures
And
Then
Also
There's
A
There's
A
Link
To
Where
You
Can
Type
In
Your
Zip
Code
And
It'll
Tell
You
Exactly
When
It'll
Rise
And
Set
Yeah
That's
Always
Fun
Satellite
Triggering
Is
Cool
There's
All
Kind
Of
Fun
Programs
That
It'll
Do
It
For
You
Other
Fun
Things
With
Radios
Just
Figuring
Out
All
Kinds
Of
New
Radio
Goodness
That
Have
Been
I
Was
Into
About
Oh
Some
Of
Three
Or
Years
Ago
But
I've
Faded
Out
Of
It
It's
Still
Stuff
That's
Fun
It's
Amazing
How
Much
It's
Grown
And
The
Internet
Has
Just
Really
Facilitated
A
Lot
Of
Things
On
It
Like
APRS
Is
Doing
All
Kinds
Of
Crazy
Stuff
On
The
Internet
Now
Which
Really
Back
When I
Was
Doing
It
Was
Quite
Cutting
Edge
And
Now
It's
Very
Old
Hat
And
I
Feel
Kind
Of
Sad
I
Picked
Up
A
Compact
Flash
GPS
Card
For
A
Combination
Of
Work
And
Home
Use
And
I'm
Getting
Into
GIS
Systems
And
Fun
Stuff
Like
That
And
I
Was
The
Fun
Pocket
PC
Has
Internet
You
Can
Now
Do
War
Commuting
I
Can
Sit
On
The
Bus
And
Sniff
Wireless
Signals
Or
Not
Sniff
Wireless
Signals
But
Plot
APs
At
Least
Yeah
That's
Some of
The
Stuff
I've
Been
Doing
There's
Like
Two
Or
Three
More
That
I
Can
Go
On
To
I've
Been
Doing
All
Kinds
Of
Crazy
Things
And
Not
Theory
Talked
To
Me
This
Week
And
My
But
In
Reality
I
Kind
Of
Did
So
Who
Knows
All
Right
Our
Main
Topic
Before
We
Get
To
Our
Main
Topic
Speaking
Of
Seeing
Mark
Spencer
If
You're
In
The
Southern
California
area
The
Southern
California
Linux
Expo
Is
Coming
Up
Scale
On
From
February
11th
To
12th
And
Mark
Tells
Me
His
Key
Is
Going
to
Be
There
So
Go
To
So
Cal
Linux
Expo
And
Sign
up
There
Don't
Ask
Questions
About
Dial
Plans
Yeah
Don't
Ask
Questions
About
Dial
Plans
Well
You
Can
Ask
Questions
About
Dial
Plans
Just
Make
Sure
Dr.
Zygmunt
Isn't
There
Because
He'll
Kill
You
Yeah
Tell
Mark
That
Ben
Rev
Radio
Sent
You
Tell
him
That
Strom
Sent
You
Yeah
Strom
Sent
Me
Okay
Come
Into
The
Speakeasy
So
How
Are we
Doing
On
Time
We
Are
52
53
Minutes
Into
The
Yeah
Okay
So
We're
Going
To
Continue
On
The
IRC
And
What
We're
Going
To
Do
Is
We're
Going
To
Talk
About
The
Fun
I
Would
Say
The
Fun
Things
But
The
Various
Wilds
Of
IRC
Hmm
I
Would
Say
The
Fun
Things
Well
They're
Fun
They're
Fun
Unless
They
Happen
To
You
And
They're
Mean
Spirited
How
About
That
They're
Fun
But
It's
Aspects
Of
IRC
Yes
Evil
Laugh
Here
The
Elite
Hacking
Aspects
Of
It
First
We
Kind
I
Believe
We
Kind
Of
Blew
Through
This
In
The
Last
Episode
But
We
Just
Want
To
Go
For
The
Clients
Again
We
All
Talked
About
It
For
Those
Who
Ever
Used
IRC
We
All
Know
MIRC
Or
Mirc
Or
Whatever
You
Want
To
Call
It
I
Think
It's
I
Believe
It's
MIRC
I
Think
We
Actually
Had
The
Discussion
Last
Time
We
Came
To
A
Conclusion
But
We
Don't
Remember
What
It
Is
Anyway
I
Apologize
For
Repeating
Anything
That
You
Already
Went
Over
Yes
Because
You
Were
In
Tahiti
Or
Whatever
You
Weren't
There
You
Were
Doing
Laundry
Actually
If
I
Remember
Correctly
But
I
Was
Preparing
For
My
Trip
To
Chicago
That's
Right
Yes
Um
MIRC
Is
Three
More
Like
Ones
That
Have
Copped
On
The
Scene
In
The
Past
Year
And
Then
There
Is
The
More
Like
Well
Seated
Windows
Versions
Out
There
That
Aren't
As
Popular
As
MIRC
But
Have
Been
Around
For
Quite
Some
Time
Um
There's
Berserk
Which
Is
Available
I
Believe
At
Berserk
Dot
Org
Um
KVRC
Which
I
Have
Never
Used
Um
Trillion
And
X
Chat
Trillion
Is
Sort
It
And
That's
When
I
Started
Using
Game
And
I've
Never
Looked
Back
Um
X
Chat
Which
Was
Originally
For
Linux
Is
Now
For
Actually
Being
Ported
Over
Windows
It's
There's
Two
Different
Builds
For
Windows
There's
One
That's
Available
For
Pay
By
The
X
Chat
People
But
There's
People
Out
There
That
Are
Constantly
Keeping
A
Build
For
Windows
That
Is
Actually
Free
Completely
Free
As
In
Speech
So
MIRC
Is
Really
Starting
To
See
A
Lot
More
Competition
Basically
MIRC
It
Wins
Because
It
Has
Been
The
De
Standard
For
I
Gotta
Say
At
10
Years
Probably
More
I
Gotta
Say
I
Remember
First
Seeing
It
In
1994
I
Was
Going
To
Say
Five
But
Four
Would
Sound
Right
I
Wouldn't
Doubt
It
It's
In
I
Think
It
Was
1995
It's
Definitely
Been
Around
A
While
It
Has
Been
Around
Forever
And
It
I
Mean
It's
Been
Around
Since
Windows
3.1
That's
How
Old
It
Is
I
Remember
Running
It
On
Windows
3.1
So
God
My
Graphics
Tablet
Is
Going
Totally
Mad
Yeah
Many
People
Still
Use
MIRC
And
Basically
It's
The
De
Facto
Standard
A
Lot
Of
Add
On
Scripture
Out
There
For
It
Which
Is
Probably
A
Huge
Feature
That
We
Should
Take
A
Second
To
Mention
Probably
A
Reason
That
MIRC
Has
Taken
Such
A
Great
Following
In
The
Windows
Community
Is
Because
You
Have
Such
An
Easy
To
Use
Scripting
Language
That
Comes
Along
With
It
That
You
Can
Totally
Write
Just
About
Anything
You
Want
To
Do
In
IRC
You
Can
Do
It
With
The
MIRC
Scripting
I
Mean
It's
Own
Programming
Language
More
Or
Less
And
Once
You
Have
Something
That
Established
And
I
Mean
He
Definitely
Took
An
Early
Market
Share
And
It's
Easy
To
Use
It's
Graphical
It
Looks
A lot
Like
The
Old
School
AOL
Chat
Rooms
Only
You
Can
Do
It
With
Dark
Colors
And
You
Get
The
General
Idea
But
I
Think
It
Was
Just
So
Intuitive
That
It's
Just
Easy
For
People
To
Use
They
Don't
Have
To
Learn
A
Whole
Bunch
Of
Commands
To
Get
Started
But
It
Has
Such
A
Great
Learning
Curve
To
It
Once
You
Get
Started
You
Just
Want
To
Keep
Going
And
Going
With
It
And
It
Has
Such
Great
Expand
Ability
Really
Your
For
Unix
There's
BitchX
There's
IRC2
And
There's
IRC2
Epic
Of
Course
Which
Is
Sort
Of
A
Derivative
To
It
IRC2
Is
The
De
Facto
Standard
For
There
That's
Been
Around
Forever
I
Remember
Using
It
Back
In
1995
When
I
Had
My
Unix
Shell
Account
BitchX
Is
Out
There
I
Don't
Like
BitchX
I
Think
I
Mentioned
This
No
Longer
Develop
Yeah
It
It's
No
Longer
Developed
I
Thought
It
Was
Still
Out
There
I
Was
Pretty
Sure
That
It
Was
No
Longer
Developed
And
That's
Why
A lot
Of
The
New
Features
That
Are
Apparent
In
I'm
Sure
You're
Going
To
Mention
It
The
IRC
As
I
Pronounced
It
I
ICQ
Yeah
I
Like
ICQ
That
Was
A
Pretty
Good
Name
I
Use
IRS
I
Or
IRS
I
IRS
Yeah
That's
What I
Post
Yeah
That's
The
Motto
Name
For
IRS
I
Use
That
For
My
Console
If
You
Ever
When
You
See
Me
On
99.9
%
Let me
Look
On
Wikipedia
And
See
If
There's
A
Pronunciation
Guide
There
Finally
Again
We
Already
Mentioned
This
For
Windows
But
XChat
Was
Originally
Written
For
Linux
And
That
Has
Its
Own
Powerful
Sifting
Languages
In
That
You
Can
Use
Perl
And
Python
For
That
So
A
Lot
Of
Stuff
Is
Starting
To
Come
Out
For
That
Too
Mac
OS
10
There's
A
Lot
Of
It
Supports
A
Lot
Of
The
Unix
IRC
Clients
Like
All
The
Ones
We
For
Linux
A
Lot
Of
Them
Are
Supported
On
Mac
OS
10
Now
There's
Actually
XChat
Is
Also
Supported
On
OS
10
And
The
Two
Ones
That
Were
Originally
For
Mac
One
Of
Them
Was
Urkle
IRCLE
And
Caliloquy
Which
I've
Used
Urkle
Before
When
I
Had
To
Use
A
Mac
At
My
University
And
It
Was
Pretty
Good
I
Much
Prefer
To
XChat
And
Caliloquy
I've
Never
Actually
Used
And
I
Don't
Even
Know
Where
You
Can
Download
It
So
Just
Google
It
Chatzilla
Is
The
Mozilla
IRC
Client
I
Can't
Stand
It
I
Don't
See
Why
They're
Developing
It
But
Someone
Thought
It
Was
A
Good
Idea
At
The
Time
Opera
As
Another
Built
In
IRC
Client
I
Actually
Did
Some
Research
Earlier
Today
And
It's
Worse
Than
Chatzilla
It's
Disgusting
I
Don't
Understand
It
So
Basically
If you
Want
If you're
In
Windows
Just
Use
MIRC
And
XChat
Is
Another
Option
For
You
If
You're
On
Linux
I
Personally
Recommend
IR
Do you
Know
How to
Pronounce
It
Doesn't
Seem
To
Say
Of
I
Personally
Remember
I
Personally
Recommend
IRS
Yeah I
Like
IRS
It's
Probably
IRS
Yeah
Or like
IRS
Or
Something
And
Bit
X
Is
Just
Everywhere
I
Can't
Personally
Can't
Stand
It
Myself
OS
10
You
Know
Bit
X
Is
Not
A
Bad
Client
But
The
Only
Problem
That
I
See
With
It
Like
Logging
It
Doesn't
Accept
Like
You
Can't
Do
A
Date
Variable
You
hate your logs and jazz like that.
I get this big feeling from BitchX that they really got a great start
and they just never added all the features.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, it's kind of like, you know, what typically happens
where everything gets off to this amazing start
and then it just goes, you know, all the gas runs out after, like, one version.
I don't want to say it because they did an excellent job with BitchX.
It's just they kind of stopped a little short of the mark.
And I think you were going to also mention a framework that exists.
Well, there's LibIRC.
I never actually played with it.
And it's a framework to include IRC in various applications.
It's still very much under development.
Is it a C library or a Perl thing?
I believe it's a C library.
There's libraries for IRC from all over the place.
Houndog, the pound bin rev IRC bot, that's all written in Perl.
That's actually a pro module called PoE Component IRC,
and it's all the IRC functions built into it.
And it's just a simple matter of writing your own code
to handle the certain actions that happened on IRC.
You know, I'll tell you, I didn't know such a library existed
because when I first started writing programs from IRC,
I was taking the raw socket, parsing it up myself, populating a structure.
You know, maybe I should turn around and start releasing that as a library
because it worked.
It was totally cool.
I just, you know, you know how I am sometimes with vaporware,
where I start it and I just, you know, I just don't end up finishing it.
You're no better than those bitch ex people.
What can I say?
I'm guilty.
Well, I always find it humorous that people constantly ask me
for the source of Hound Dog.
And if anyone's ever seen Hound Dog, which no one has
because I refuse to let anyone see it,
it's just this horrible piece of coding.
I need to clean it up and eventually release it
because it has some fun features on it.
But it's just terrific.
Oh, man.
You can just tell.
It's built like a deck of cards or a house of cards.
It's bad.
So, I mean, you're welcome to ask,
and maybe, you know, if enough people ask,
I'll finally get off my ass and do it.
But, oh, boy, you don't want to see it right now.
Let me tell you.
Can I see it if you make me sign an NDA?
No.
It's that embarrassing.
It's really, it's not the fact that it's,
I don't want people to see it.
It's the fact that I don't want to get embarrassed by it.
It's disgusting.
But we've all been there.
I think every coder's been there.
We're like, you know what?
I know I should have done more comments.
I should have organized it better.
I should have made that a function
instead of copying and pasting it.
Everybody goes through it.
It happens.
Well, it was just more of a,
it's figured out as basically something to run for,
my original plan was,
I'm going to run this for two weeks.
I'm going to defend the channel
from the various people that are attacking it.
And once the attack subsides,
I'll take it out of service.
But, no, it just stayed.
Because we were under attack by people.
Let's go, we'll just put a pause on that.
We'll hold that thought for a bit.
Let's go talk about the various things
that happen in IRC and attacks
and hack-soring and all that stuff.
Oh, well, probably the best way to segue,
probably the first thing,
because IRC is a great medium.
And, of course, you know,
there's always going to be hackers.
There's always going to be somebody
who wants to take advantage of it or exploit it.
So there has been a lot of history
of different things that you've been able to do.
Now, a lot of the things
we're going to talk about today
really aren't possible anymore,
because of things like services
and new patches and built-in things
into the actual servers themselves.
But it's more of a history
of things that you could have done,
and there's still some things that you can do.
There's still things you can do.
It's just a matter of conditions
that need to be met beforehand
that usually don't happen.
Yeah, that is very true.
But, you know, if you want to work hard enough,
you never know.
But I probably will start off
with the ICMP bombing.
You know, ICMP is, of course, that protocol.
You know, there's TCP, UDP, ICMP is one of them.
We'll save the lecture on what ICMP is,
but we'll just go with...
We're going to leave it at that.
And ICMP bombing is just basically
the sending of a forged ICMP message.
One of the leading ones
that does pretty much the most damage
is an ICMP redirect.
And what that basically tells your computer to do...
And actually, it doesn't only affect your computer.
An attacker will send a specially crafted packet
to the routers that are within your path
to whatever server you're connecting to,
which you could find out from a trace route
if you were lucky.
But what you're going to do is
now you're going to tell one of these routers
to redirect all the traffic
and say, you know what?
I don't want you to send it
wherever you're supposed to send it.
Send it to this IP address.
So they could really just dump all your packets
into the proverbial bit bucket
and you're going to lose your connection to IRC that way.
This is a really dangerous attack
because it not only affects your traffic,
but it can affect all traffic through the router.
So as you can tell,
that's something that they kind of put a stop to
as fast as they possibly could.
That's one of those annoying things
that people used to do.
I actually have fallen victim to...
Not in that type of context,
but that type of attack
for a completely unrelated reason.
It was during a capture-the-flight contest.
And technically, I didn't fall victim to it.
One of my teammates did.
But let's not get into that.
I'm dredging up bad memories.
It's basically just on the router.
Stop.
It prevents you from connecting
to your eventual target
that you're trying to get to.
So you're basically just going
wherever the attacker sends you.
So that's the first part of ICMP bombing.
Then right after that,
they have the host unreachable,
the host unreachable response,
which is actually you've seen this quit
a bunch of times, probably.
If you've ever watched IRC,
if you've been in it,
you've seen a host unreachable
as the quit message.
Yep.
And what that is saying is
more than likely,
somebody sent an end-of-file
or something that tells the socket,
the connection between IRC
and the client, the user,
that this socket is dead.
You know, close the connection
for one reason or another.
You know, whatever the reason is,
this connection is no longer
a valid connection.
Close it.
So what everybody's saying is,
oh, okay, well,
I guess this connection is gone,
so let me disconnect
and tell everybody that,
yo, I'm done.
And that's going to,
it's going to knock them off of IRC.
They're not going to be able
to send input anymore
because the socket,
the connection is closed.
They're not going to receive
any more input,
even though it might still be
being sent to them
from the server
because the server
doesn't quite know yet.
But that's another dangerous attack
that they did,
the ICMP host unreachables.
And these are really getting
into the people who are knowing
the socket layers
is, you know,
knowing the network
connectivity layers.
These are things where you
could just kind of go in
and if you could bend
the wheel of things
that were going to allow you
to do it,
you know,
this is where it was coming.
These are all upper level,
I'm sorry,
upper level is the exact
opposite term.
These are all the low level
network layer attacks.
Well, yeah,
so these are all actually,
when talking about,
we're talking about ICMP
host and reachables
and, I mean,
they're attacks technically.
They can be used in this way,
but all of the stuff
is basically all built
into IP.
For real reasons,
because it is actually needed.
It's built into TCP IP.
Oh, like ICMP,
when you send a ping out,
you're sending an ICMP packet.
It's an ICMP echo request,
and actually we'll talk
about that in a second.
But, yeah,
these are all built
into TCP IP.
These are all controlled
by the protocol.
This is just all networking stuff.
And, I mean,
these actually have valid uses,
but at the same point,
you can,
it's like a gun.
You can use it properly
or you can use it in bad ways.
Definitely.
Exactly.
But, yeah.
So, now,
I know that we've all
heard a lot about,
you want to talk about real quick
what a flood is?
Well, didn't that happen
down in New Orleans?
Oh!
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I went there.
I went there, yeah.
Yeah, I'm in 17 years
and three days yet,
or so,
whatever the law is.
What flooding?
Yeah, what flooding, basically.
That was a great
South Park episode.
Jared has AIDS.
Anyway,
talking about floods.
Huh?
Okay.
My lack of TV watching
befuddles me.
What flooding is,
is basically when someone
repeats or just
starts talking
into the channel
so rapidly
that nobody else
can really
carry on a conversation,
the person who's flooding,
their lines of text
just completely
overwhelms the channel.
Well, it can be
more than just text.
You go ahead,
Black Ratchet.
Well, yeah,
that's one type of flood.
That's text floods,
and you can do that
for a channel,
you can do that
for a person.
Basically,
what a flood is,
the general idea
is to send more data
that can be handled
by an individual
or a channel
or a server
or just send more text
than someone
can possibly handle.
And, you know,
this can cause
disconnects
for a single user.
You know,
if you're flooding
a server with enough,
you know,
zombies or whatever it is,
you can cause,
like,
a server and net split.
If you're attacking
a channel
and you're flooding that
and, you know,
no one's there,
there aren't any ops
around to kick you out,
I mean,
you basically own
the channel for a while.
It makes it incredibly hard
for people to do it
unless they start ignoring you.
We won't get into that.
One of the floods is,
you know,
we're talking about ICMP again.
We're going to talk
about ping floods
and what ping floods are
if someone's on
a faster pipe than you
or, say,
they have a botnet
or, you know,
a bunch of zombies
or, heck,
if they just, like,
get a bunch
of their friends together,
they can send
enough pings
to overload your,
you know,
you can say
it can still overload
like a cable connection
or some type
of broadband connection.
This was more prevalent
back when you had a,
oh,
a 2400-bit connection
to the Internet
or something
or 288.
If you had someone
who had a zippy
network connection,
they could basically
pound you into oblivion
and your network
would fall to a crawl.
But what it just does
is you send enough,
you send a bunch
of pings
or you send
a bunch of ICMP messages
or you just send
just a bunch
of random traffic
down to the target's
IP address
and it overloads
their connection
enough to that
they get disconnected.
What Strom was talking
about was text floods
and basically
it can be simple
as just putting
an annoying ASCII art photo
like, say,
curtsy guy
and just, you know,
put it out
and just send
countless messages
over and over
and over and over again
saying to A,
annoy a person
or B,
annoy a channel
or, you know,
it can be,
go back to the ICMP floods
if you overload
their connection
they're going to get
knocked offline.
And it's more than
just an ICMP flood
in that case.
You're actually flooding
them with so much data.
You know,
you can actually
flood somebody off
if you have 15 people
all on this
faster connection
sending just text messages
like private messages
to the guy,
it'll totally kill them.
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
Well, I was going to go on.
If you're ready,
if you want to say
something else,
go ahead.
Well, I mean,
like the really,
the fourth type of flood
is sort of the CTCP echo flood.
That is my favorite flood.
But definitely,
it's one of the most devious
and brilliantly thought out floods
in my mind.
Do you mind if I just,
if I talk about it?
You seem to be having
an orgasm over this,
so go for the goal.
I love this flood.
It's so devious.
It's a flood.
Well, what it's doing
is it's sending a CTCP request.
Yeah, there's a whole protocol
of CTCP.
It's in the RFCs.
But what it's basically saying is,
hey, you know what?
I'm going to send you some data.
I want you to echo it back to me.
You know, it's pretty simple, right?
Cool.
So let's say I have,
I don't know,
20 friends doing this,
and we're all telling this one computer
to echo data back to us.
And the computer's like,
oh, okay, I'll try my best.
It tries to send out all this data,
and then the IRC server says,
hey, wait a minute.
You're flooding.
Stop flooding.
I'm going to kick you off.
So you totally just flooded him
without actually,
he actually got kicked
for the flood
that you were flooding him.
So that's why I think
the echo response,
the echo attack
is just so devious.
Yes, when I first heard about that,
I was going,
ooh, that's bad.
It's devious,
I'm telling you.
Want to talk about
nick collisions
and net splits
and writing in a net split?
Well, why don't you rehash
what a net split is for us?
Well, what a net split is
is when you have
a bunch of servers
interconnected to each other,
like, you know,
server A is connected
to server B,
and then server C
is connected to server B.
If server A
drops their connection,
everyone C
is on server B and C.
Everyone who,
everyone on server B and C
sees everyone
who is on server A
just suddenly disconnect,
and that's what
a net split is,
basically.
Just an entire server
drops off the network,
and what everyone
sees it as,
that's like,
you know,
20 people on a channel
or X amount of percent
of people on a channel
just suddenly sign off
correct,
instantly.
And it's just,
it's basically,
it's a broken link
somewhere in the chain,
and they reconnect eventually,
and everything,
server,
everything gets
re-synced back.
But you can totally
take advantage
of the fact that these,
that these two servers
are now acting
as separate entities,
and that's where we come
into a Nik collide.
And what a Nik collide is,
and unfortunately,
on a lot of the networks
it no longer works,
and I'll say why
it doesn't work in a minute,
but what a Nik collide
is doing is,
let's say,
Black Ratchet
is on DAOnet,
and he is connecting
to the Rumble net,
or the Rumble.Florida.US.DAO.NET
server.
And all of a sudden,
the server in Australia splits.
Now, the server in Australia
is acting as its own server.
It's acting as its own
IRC network.
So what I do,
is I say,
hey, you know what,
I'm going to connect
directly to that network,
and change my nickname
to Black Ratchet.
Now, as far as IRC is concerned,
only one person
can have a nickname.
You know,
there can't be two people
with the same nickname.
So when the two servers
sync back up,
it says,
hey, wait a minute,
I can't have two Black Ratchets.
That's just not cool.
So it Nik collides
and disconnects both of them.
It kills them both.
So the Nik collide
is the act of killing
both of them.
Cool.
Unfortunately,
the reason it no longer works
on most networks
is they,
instead of just killing
both of them,
they kill the newer one.
So unless you've actually
been connected
to that server
longer than
the original Black Ratchet has,
and you've had
that nickname longer,
like let's say
the next split happened,
he disconnected,
then you joined
the split server,
changed your nick
to Black Ratchet,
he reconnected
and made his name
Black Ratchet
on the server
that's not disconnected,
like it would still work,
but that's a really
unusual set of circumstances
that has to occur
in order to get that
thing started.
What you can do
is you can combine
these answer attacks
with it.
You can say
you can knock someone off
and flood their connection
or do something crazy
like that,
or just cause them
to get disconnected
somehow.
And what you can do
then is just,
you know,
join the net split
of server and say,
hey, I've been here,
he's just re-signed on,
I was here first,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
and you'll win.
So, ha-ha,
winner is you.
Nikolai.
Yeah.
I guess we could,
we're probably going to
have to start getting
going on here,
so why don't we just
talk real quick
about a couple
of the ways
that people gain
ops fraudulently.
And I think,
I think the easiest
method that,
like,
people just don't
think about is,
sometimes it's as easy
as being like,
hey, can I get
some ops over here?
You know,
ask for it.
Come sit in the channel,
you know,
chat for a couple
of minutes.
You know,
maybe somebody
has a question
about something
and you answer it
and be like,
cool, you know,
look how cool
a dude I am.
You guys should
op me.
And that has worked.
Yes,
that has actually
worked for me.
Actually,
one of the more
interesting things
is this actually
has a bit
of a reverse
connotation to it
where certain
people are saying,
like,
certain people are
taking over IRC
channels in some
way,
shape,
or form
where it's a
popular channel
and they take
it over via
some type
of method
where they
attack the
computer
or they
compromise it
somehow
or they
compromise the
ops computer
and get their
password
or just,
they manage to
somehow get
ops.
And what they
do is they
send out,
they basically
position a bot
there who they
give ops
and the bot
messages people
and says,
hey,
want ops?
Go run this
command.
And basically
what the command
does is it
compromises their
computer as
well.
Oh,
that was an
exploit that
actually existed
and I believe
it was
MIRC.
One of
MIRC's
functions is
called decode
and I'm not
exactly sure
what it's
I think it
was write
is what they
did.
You ended
up writing
and created
the file
through the
messages.
Well,
yeah,
but what they
do is they
decode it
and there's
like some
type of,
it's some
type of
rudimentary
single-key
encryption of
some sort.
I'm not
common-key
or something.
But there's
a way of
doing it.
What people
will do is
say,
oh,
geez,
I want
ops,
I've got
to go run
this file
because the
op asked
me to.
And what
they'll do
is they'll
actually get
compromised.
A lot of
zombies are
actually starting
to be set up
that way.
It's kind
of creepy.
It's
phishing.
That's all
it really is.
Yeah,
that's exactly
what it is.
It's phishing.
It looks like
it's coming from
someone you trust
and it isn't.
Another way
that used
to work
and it
doesn't work
anymore is
to get
ops is to
write in a
net split.
Write
net split.
I remember
writing in
net splits.
Those were
so much fun.
Basically,
when a channel
is created,
no one is
in it.
The first
person that
creates it
gets ops.
So if you're
on a net
splitted server,
you join the
server that's
not part of
the network
that's acting
independently,
you create
the same
channel
and if
no one
else is
on,
you are
the first
person to
create it.
Therefore,
you get
ops.
Now,
when the
server
re-syncs,
you arrive
on the
other channel.
You still
have ops
because you
created that
channel,
so you
still have
ops.
So when
you rejoin,
oh,
you must
still have
ops.
You were
there.
You created
the channel.
You have
ops on the
main channel
and from
there you
can proceed
to take it
over.
The first
time that I
actually discovered
this independently
because it
happened to
me and
completely
wrong.
I joined
the channel
and no
one was
there and
I was
like,
this is
not right.
Someone has
to be here.
This is a
somewhat popular
channel and
the net
split
re-syncs and
I'm in the
main channel.
I'm like,
oh,
cool.
I'm chatting
along,
chatting
along,
chatting
along and
five minutes
later,
someone says,
who the hell
are you?
They de-op me
and I said,
how the hell
did I get
ops?
I finally
thought about it
and I was
like,
oh,
light dawned
from Marvel
and I said,
these are all
features of
IRC themselves
that are not
vulnerabilities in
IRC.
It was just the
way that the
network was set
up.
People were
taking advantage
of what you
could legally
do.
Now,
of course,
they've done a
lot of protections
against a lot
of these,
but something
that we don't
really have time
to get into
and I hate
to say I'm
not an expert
on,
but the
IRC DNS
spoofing,
which I was
totally slammed
by a guy
one day,
and this is a
quick story
I'll tell.
I was probably,
I don't know,
15,
and I just
saw the movie
Hackers,
so however old
I was when
that happened,
and I was like,
yeah,
I'm a badass,
I'm going to go
on IRC,
whatever.
So I get on
IRC and I'm
talking to this
guy,
and he turns
around and he
mirrors my IP
address,
he mirrors my
nickname with
one little,
he added something
at the end,
so it wasn't the
exact same nickname,
but he told me
he had cloned
who I was,
and I later
learned that it
was DNS spoofing,
and you can
actually tell IRC
what your IP
address is,
and you can tell
it some really
interesting details,
but you have to
really work to do
it.
So anybody who's
interested in
something like
that,
it's called IRC
DNS spoofing,
and a Google
search will
definitely get you
in the right
direction.
There's a lot
of tutorials on
how to do it,
but there's not
a lot of
information on
exactly what
it's doing,
and I feel
we'd be doing
you a disservice
if we just
kind of script
kittied you
through it.
So figure out
how it works
and get back
to us and
write us an
email.
We're kind
of running
short on time,
so let's go
blow through
the closing
bits here.
Announcements,
there's a new
2600 magazine
out,
winter 2005,
winter 2006,
2600 meetings
this Friday.
Do you go
to 2600 in
your area?
You have to
go to 2600
in your area.
I do,
yeah.
Where is your
2600 meeting?
It is at the
Broward Mall,
and I hope to
have a lot of
people come this
week.
We didn't
really have
anybody make
it last
week,
it was me
and Logos,
or last
month,
it was me
and Logos,
but let's
all get down
there,
guys,
if anybody's
listening.
It should
be a good
meeting.
I have a
couple of
things I'd
like to
showcase,
and so does
Logos,
so let's
all make
sure we
make it
down.
Boston 2600
is,
as always,
the Prudential
Center,
Prudential Mall
Food Court,
between the
two Omega
watches,
and just
sit there
and look
for a
bunch of
disheveled
hacker-type
guys.
LA 2600
as usual,
Union Station
from 5 to
7,
Philippe
7 to
10,
Denny's
10,
onwards.
You should
move to a
bar or
something,
10 onwards.
Right around
like 11 or
so,
you have
like 26,
21.
Ha ha ha ha
ha ha.
Yeah.
Shouts.
Zegman,
do you have
any shouts?
Oh,
don't forget
that.
Oh,
never mind.
Gale,
Southern
California,
socal,
lenoxexpo.org,
February 11th
and 12th,
2006.
Register,
go there.
Register today.
Woo!
Yeah.
Linux World
is coming
into Boston
in April.
I believe
general
registration
is starting
up.
That's
April 6th
at the
Heinz
Convention
Center.
Free
Wi-Fi,
in case
you're
interested.
And actually
it's right
next to
Prudential
Food Court,
though I
don't think
there are
2600 meetings
happening
during the
Linux Expo,
sadly.
Zegman,
shouts?
Okay,
here we are
again.
Shout out
to LogosX.
He's really
helped me
with some
PHP.
I know
he's just
learning the
language himself,
but he's
doing a great
job,
and I
appreciate it.
To Biz,
StankDog,
Katie,
everybody in
BinRev,
and Kyle.
Kyle's really
helping with a
lot of software
and a lot of
programming,
and good luck
with his new
job that's
coming up.
Kyle's a
noob.
Strom,
shout.
Shout out
to one of my
local friends,
Beamer.
I've kind
of given
him more
crap than
he deserves,
and I
feel bad
for it.
So shout
out to him.
He's
cooler.
He's cooler
than I
gave him
credit.
Aw,
Fort Beamer.
Yeah.
Let's see,
we have,
I don't know
what I've
shouted for.
Shout out to
StankDog for
hooking me up
with the
site of the
week this
week.
And like I
said,
shout out to
all the people
that called
last week.
We did a pretty
good episode,
and I'd just
like to thank
everyone who
participated in
it.
That was you
guys' episode,
and you guys
did a good
job.
We were just
along for the
ride.
site of the
week,
www.lifeinhex.com,
L-I-F-E-I-N-H-E-X.com.
StankDog recommended
to me.
It's a radio show.
I've only listened
into like a quarter
of one episode,
but it was pretty
good in my opinion,
and he says it's
really nice,
and I'm going to
download all of
them and start
listening to them,
because I really
need new radio
shows to listen to,
and I've fallen
into a bit of a
rut.
Email,
radio at
binrev.com.
It hasn't
changed,
hasn't.
Oh,
yes,
what is the
voicemail?
888-9-BINREV?
888-9-BINREV.
Woo-hoo!
Go leave us a
voicemail.
Call us up at,
you know,
2 a.m.
and tell them
that you're naked
and you're thinking
of us or something.
I don't know.
We encourage you
to leave really
weird,
crazy voicemails
so we can edit
them together
and play them
on the air.
Yes,
why not?
We may be,
give us material,
we might have an
episode of just
strange voicemails.
Our closing music
tonight is the
Zelda 64
or Kiana of Time
Prelude
Remix.
ocremix.org
The remixer is
Ocarina of Time.
Yeah,
Ocarina.
Definitely not
a Zelda of Time.
Hey,
Ocarina.
Whatever,
I didn't have
a Nintendo 64.
I went straight
from an 8-bit
Nintendo to a PS2.
You don't have
an emulator?
I never played
the game,
but I know
that the instrument
is called
an Ocarina.
Oh,
it's an instrument?
I don't know.
Yeah,
that's the whole
flute thing
that he played
the whole game.
Why do they call it
the Flute of Time?
Because an Ocarina
is not a
specific kind
of flute.
It's an Ocarina.
Yeah.
Anyway.
It's an Ocarina.
Anyway,
so it's
Zelda 64
Ocarina
of Time
Prelude
Remix
Pizazz.
Oh,
God,
you people.
Ocarina
Remix.org,
blah, blah, blah,
blah, you know.
Anyway.
Anything else
that we missed?
I think that
covered it.
That's about it, I think.
Yeah, we'll
see you next week.
Same OMG
Hacks time.
Same Hack
channel.
Thank you.
Bye.
Thank you.