This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers, to the hackers and the crackers.
I see in binary, I speak source code, step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs if you
in a fag pwned, in your digital stance getting firewalled ho, cause I'm riding the net in
my six foe, I was a dick with my 56, now with my cable I'm able to get that stable, on the
out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo, on the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a
Nero, in a flash I'll screw you on burning dream caps, you need some ISO, let me through
my hard drive rifle, our exchange you could never stifle, and a digital hug, you just caught
the love bug, I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z, your CG, it's
all gonna be free, whether we take it by force or we take it nicely, you feel that rattle
in your bones, when I tell you we just hacked out Jones, and NASDAQ, leave you flat on your
back, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack, cause I am he who loves to hack and crack,
this is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers, serial phones, source code, ISO, RAM.
Hello and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio, episode number 135 for February 14th, 2006.
I'm Strom Carlson.
And I'm Richard Leck, otherwise known as Sub-Zero.
Hello Richard slash Sub-Zero, which would you prefer me to call you during the show?
I just call me Richard.
Alright Richard.
So we don't have Ratchet with us live on the show this week, that's because we sent him
off to Torino to cover the 2006 Winter Olympics.
No way.
Yeah, yeah, we figured we were going to expand our coverage on FinRev Radio because, you know,
first off, you know, hey, that's what the listeners want, and secondly, you know, the
media only talks about the sports, and you know, there's more to the Olympics than just
the sports, there's a hacking angle too.
Yeah, you guys must have just gotten like a huge budget, man.
Yeah, yeah, you know, since we've done this thing, we've just like started spending thousands
of dollars an episode and everything.
Raking it in.
Oh yeah, raking it in, all those advertising dollars.
Exactly.
So anyway, apparently it's too expensive even for us, for Ratchet to call back in and give
us a report, but I do have a telegram that he sent in.
So here we are with the FinRev Radio's first ever Olympic moment.
As we open this up here, and it says, oh my god, dead hookers everywhere.
God, I hate it.
That's value for reporting.
I hate when that happens.
Yeah.
Ah, man.
So I guess tune in next week for more of Black Ratchet's wonderful insights into the 2006
Torino Olympics.
Man, that sucks.
Yeah.
When Olympics go bad, you should be like a second.
Yeah.
Man.
Totally crazy.
So, housekeeping.
I just want to let you guys know that for those of you who have been listening on the
podcast and 134 didn't show up, that's because I had a drive problem and I've just now found
the files.
The drive was leaking out on me.
So I've still got to mix that and post it up, but you will have it, historically, and
this should be more reason for you to listen in live.
So remember, if you're listening on the podcast, listen in live every Tuesday night at 9.30
Eastern, 6.30 Pacific PM, and on radio.binrev.com.
You're almost going to ping my say, dude.
You're going to be like pimping my geek over your say.
Yeah.
It's okay.
Yeah.
Well, we can pimp that, too.
You can listen to Geek Love Radio, too.
But, yeah, we're doing our Valentine's Day special.
Richard is of Geek Love Radio.
That would be correct.
Yes.
And so we're going to be doing a little bit unconventional stuff, but since our audience
tends to be young and male and single.
And if they're listening, they're probably not dating anybody right now.
Yeah, exactly.
If you're listening live, you're not on a Valentine's Day unless your idea of a Valentine's Day is
listening to Binrev Radio, in which case, we love you forever.
Hey, hon.
You've got to listen to the show.
Screw going to dinner.
We're just going to listen to Binrev Radio.
Yeah.
We're getting messages from the IRC channel.
Please tell Richard to talk louder and enunciate.
Okay.
Yay.
So.
Yeah, I have a crappy phone, so I apologize off the bat.
I'm using some phone that the school gave us.
So.
Hey, it sounds good to me.
I can understand you.
Yes.
All right.
So, do you have any housekeeping you need to take care of?
No.
No, I'm good.
All right.
Let's do some email.
If I can pull up the email theme here.
Just sing it.
Bin, bin, bin, bin, binrev, radio, binrev.com.
Yeah.
You should just sing it one week.
Surprise, everybody.
Yeah.
Just be recording me going, yeah, bitradio at binrev.com.
It's like all sorts of weird overdriven stuff in the background.
All right.
Are you a Mac expert?
Me?
No, I know Mac, but not an expert by any means.
Yeah.
Neither am I.
So, our next email is from IP Filter, and it says,
Hi, guys.
I just got a G4 400 megahertz, and since I don't know shit about Macs,
I just wanted to know, would OS X run on this decently,
or should I just go with Yellow Dog?
Any help would be great.
And he was the wrong, great.
Yeah.
I don't think, I'm not an expert, but I don't think it's going to run decently.
It might run, but it's going to be really crappy.
Yeah.
I have, like, zero experience with this,
so I seem to recall OS X running just fine on my friend's iMac when he was living here.
But, so I, in lieu of actual real knowledge, I asked the IRC channel.
And so, we got, ew.
We got, doesn't sound good, hee hee.
From XSL.
Well, Subxena says, I run 10.1 on a 233 megahertz G3 with 160 megs of RAM.
It runs fine.
And then Teoxy says, I think Panther will run fine if Tiger won't,
although not terribly speedy.
Yeah, I don't think it'll be too fast.
Yeah, but, I mean, yeah.
I don't see why it wouldn't work.
But, although, once again, I'm not a Mac expert, so.
Yeah.
And then Teoxy points out that OS X is more RAM hungry than CPU hungry.
So, yeah, I guess.
Sure.
Listen to them.
Yeah, listen to them.
Don't listen to me, because I am not really a Mac person.
I don't think, yeah, few and far between, man.
I've not met very many Mac people.
Like, at least not, like, I don't know.
Not people that would know up front and back, you know.
Most of them are just users.
Yeah, I remember I was in a cafe one time, and I was, you know, I was, they had Wi-Fi
at the cafe, and I couldn't get mine to work.
And, you know, it was connecting, but it wasn't rooting correctly.
And so, you know, I said, I was running Linux, and so I noticed someone was sitting across
the room with a Mac.
And I said, you know, oh, Macs run Unix.
So I said, that's fine.
So I said, hey, can you by any chance tell me what route your IP packets are taking out
to the network?
And she just looked at me and said, what?
What's an IP?
Yeah, what's IP?
Can you just pull up your IP routing tables?
This is what happens when you live in a town populated with screenwriters.
They're all trendoids.
They just run Macs and then.
Yeah, everybody has the Macs to look trendy.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I should do a survey at my local cafe because it's all like, it seems like screenwriters
and Mac people and nothing else in the cafe.
Yeah.
Like, the only thing I ever use Mac for are, like, graphical stuff, you know.
Mm-hmm.
I'm a graphic design photography major, so that's pretty much what I use it for.
So it's not one of those things that, like, I don't know.
Like, I'm not sitting there writing papers on it or anything, so I wouldn't be an expert
by any means on Mac.
Mm-hmm.
But, like, I don't understand, like, why anybody would, like, want to, like, I don't know,
a PC or, like, even just, like, a Linux, you know, throw some distro on.
You're, like, I don't know.
It pisses me off.
I can't speak anymore.
Yeah.
Well, you're getting distracted by that fire hydrant.
What the heck was that?
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm here.
You cut out and music started playing.
Weird.
We're going to have to figure this out later.
Yeah.
That was weird, dude.
Yeah, that was weird.
The joy of live radio.
Yeah.
Wow.
Didn't know that could happen.
I wasn't expecting it.
So, anyway.
Dude, it was an ambulance that drove by.
I think that's what, I don't know.
Yeah.
The best interference.
All right.
So, our next email is from Rob, and he writes,
Dear Stank Dog, long-time listener, first-time emailer.
I guess by long-time listener, he means haven't listened for a long time.
Oh.
Harsh but true.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Yeah, Stank isn't on the show anymore.
Yeah, just in case you were paying attention, Stank has not done the show for quite a while now.
Unless he thinks you're Stank.
That could be.
I mean, I sound exactly like him.
Yeah, you do.
It's eerie.
You guys look alike, too.
Yeah.
We're exactly the same person.
I get you guys confused.
Oh, yeah.
All the time.
Maybe it's just me.
So, what was his email?
His email says,
Do you know of a way to set up asterisks to make the following work?
I have an asterisk box at home.
I have a cell phone plan, which provides me with unlimited anytime incoming calls.
I would like to add functionality to asterisk,
to such that when I call my home phone from my cell phone,
asterisk recognizes the caller ID from my cell phone and does not answer the phone.
After hang up my cell phone, asterisk...
I should have edited this email because it's like all sentence fragments.
Yeah.
After I hang up my cell phone, asterisk dials out to call my cell phone.
I then accept the incoming call from asterisk.
Once connected, I would like to be able to make my asterisk box dial out to any number I punch into the phone.
Not sure if this would require a second line or if it would work as a conference call.
Hope my question makes some sense.
I'm essentially trying to get around making outgoing calls from my cell phone
as incoming calls are always free.
Keep up the good work on the show.
Rob, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Sweet.
You know what?
He might be listening to old shows that are being run on Red Radio, maybe?
Maybe.
Because I know they do that sometimes.
Yeah, I've got to check on that.
I'm being told to say Gen 2 and iPod right now and get it the hell over with.
So, all asterisk, all Gen 2, all iPods, all the time.
Been Red Radio.
But anyway, so, yeah.
That is, what was I going to say?
That is doable.
I mean, what you'd have to do, the way asterisk works is you could set up a script to, what was I going to say?
You could set up a script to have it, you know, generate an outgoing call when you call a specific number.
And then, once you have, what it does, basically, you just have it copy a .call file into bar, spool, asterisk, outgoing.
And so, once the call connects, it's treated just like an incoming call and extends to a specific context.
And you can have a dial tone or a bong tone or whatever and then dial at your asterisk box.
So, it's totally doable.
It's a little more technical than I want to get into right now.
But I guess if Rob wants to email radio at binrev.com directly, I can always explain it in person.
But, yeah, I mean, it's a cool idea.
But, you know, on the other hand, you know, how much are you talking on your mobile phone that you need all free calls all the time?
Yeah, I don't think I could ever, like, talk on it that much.
I know.
I checked my balance of minutes this month.
I think my billing cycle begins at the beginning of the month or somewhere very close.
And so far this month, we're halfway through the month, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, we're exactly halfway through February.
This whole month of my 1,000-minute mobile phone plan, I have used 81 minutes.
Yeah.
Well, you and me are, like, yeah, I'm the same way.
I think I use more of the data, like, features on my phone than I'm actually calling out to anybody.
Yeah, I use the data all the time, but the voice I just barely use.
Yeah.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah.
So, anyway, by the way, guys, what was I going to say?
If you're listening live, we are taking calls.
Don't forget to call 888-9-BINREV from within the U.S. and Canada.
No, actually, not from within Canada.
I'm losing my mind.
Call 888-9-BINREV from within the U.S.
And then from Canada and other countries, call country code 1-213-415-1047.
And the lovely and illustrious Dr. Zygman will answer your call.
Woo-hoo!
In fact, I think, um, I think just for kicks, we should give him a call, should we?
Yeah, do it.
Yeah, let's give him a ring.
I'll ask him where his, uh, his Valentine's Day date is.
Pioneer Resolution Radio, this is Dr. Zygman.
Do you have a question for the crew tonight?
Hey, hello, it's Strom and Sub-Zero.
Yo, what's up?
Hey, guys.
Hey, you're on the show.
For lack of better things to do, we, uh, we decided to call you.
With no warning?
What's up with that?
Yeah, none whatsoever.
We've, you know, surprise phone calls.
We were going to question you about your love life.
About my love life?
Uh, yeah.
I work for the, I work for, uh, you know, Binary Revolution, and I go to school, and, uh, that's about it.
So, uh, I really have my love life.
It happens, it happens.
Uh, so yes, we, we at Bin Rev Radio will be, um, will be helping you with your love life thing.
Yes.
Tonight, one and only chance.
If you want a girlfriend, call in.
As much as I, as much as I appreciate the, uh, the offer, you know, I, I'm a really busy guy.
I really don't have time for somebody else.
I, I'm the most important person in the world.
I mean, you are.
I mean, you're not going to be me.
Yeah.
So, if you, if you want to berate Sigmund, you can call 888-9-BINREV, and, uh, and maybe you'll get on the show, too.
So, call now.
Call, call, call.
Call.
Call 888-9-BINREV.
If you have any questions, or if you want to do, say anything on the show, call us, and, uh, yeah, talk to Zigmund.
That's right.
I feel the love.
Oh, yeah.
Feel the love.
I, I, I think I need you to hang up, Zigmund.
Uh.
He's like, no, I don't think I'm going to hang up.
I'm sorry?
I don't think I can, I can't hang, I can't hang up on you.
You can't?
No.
Try it.
Uh, well, if I, I'm going to drop you to an extension, and you're going to hear a hold
music.
No, no, no, no, no.
Hit, hit the hang up button on your phone.
On your soft phone.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
Bye, everybody.
There we go.
So, um, do you have any personal hacking stories?
Uh, none right now.
None that, none that I can speak of, actually, right now.
Yeah, actually, same with me.
I just made a major breakthrough on some project I've been working on, but I can't talk about
it yet.
Yeah.
So.
Which is really cool, by the way.
Yeah.
If, if, if I've told you about it personally, then, yeah, you know how cool it is, but,
uh.
Yeah.
Wait, wait around for BinRev Radio, and, uh, or wait around for either the BinRev Radio
where I do talk about this, or, uh, I'll, I'll be talking about a Layer 1, maybe a Black Hat
and DEF CON 2.
Probably both.
Like, yeah, probably both.
You should, you should go to Hope, too.
Maybe, yeah, and then just, like, totally conference myself out.
Exactly.
Go to every CON ever.
No, I guess, um, I'm trying to start a CON here in Chicago, if you guys didn't know.
Like, I had, like, moved all the way up to Chicago, the big city, and, like, I've been,
uh, thinking about starting a CON, and I'm like, I've had good, uh, response from most
people, so, if anybody's interested in starting a CON, I guess, in Chicago area, uh, just
I guess email BinRev Radio, and, like, Strom can forward me emails, or whatever.
And I'm going to be, like, speaking at the, at the 2600 meeting, this upcoming, I guess,
this upcoming meeting about it, and, like, I've talked to a lot of people from St. Louis
area, and, like, surrounding Midwest 2600s, too.
So, everybody's receptive, so I'm going to see if, I'm just going to get it going.
I figure, you know what?
Screw it.
Might as well.
Awesome.
Yes.
So, I guess that's, like, the only thing, I guess, right now.
Cool.
So, uh, we are getting into our, we are just running through this, like, mad tonight.
We're already on the show topic, and we're only, what, 20 minutes into the show?
We're, we're, we're in serious trouble here.
Hello?
We're in doubly serious trouble, because, uh, hello?
Hello?
We're in triple serious trouble, because I think we've lost, uh, lost sub-zero.
I can hear him, and he can't, uh, hear me.
This is really horrible.
So, um, we're, we're having technical difficulties.
One moment.
Uh, let, let me message him and say, call back in.
Oh, there.
He hung up.
So, so, we're, we're, we're going to talk about Geek Love Radio tonight, but we can't
really do it unless, uh, unless sub-zero comes back, and I'm sure he will in a second here.
In fact, I better just bring him back.
One moment, please.
Uh, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's,
let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's play.
Dude, I don't know what's going on here, man.
Yeah, okay, we, we, we, we're, we're back.
We've got, uh, we've got Richard back with us.
Sorry about that.
Dude, dude, it's kind of crazy.
I'm, like, stealing the phone from, like, stealing, like, this phone line from, not stealing, I'm borrowing it.
it so like i'm not like in my room or anything so maybe like some of these i don't know the phone's
flaking out freaking weird man that's all i gotta say it's those valentine's day demons yeah
valentine's day demon so speaking of which it is valentine's day it's it's uh less than three day
yes day for for you uh the the wonderful person that you are to spend lots of money and time
and energy on your sweetheart and uh and and hope that they they don't think you do too little and
break up with you yes but uh seeing as our audience is typically you know young and male and usually
single and has trouble with relationships we figure that valentine's day would be a great uh great
opportunity to talk with uh with with richard of key club radio and and offer some wonderful advice
to all of you uh all of you struggling hackers out there who are trying desperately to get chicks
or guys as a baby yes how to hack relationships yes hacking relationships on binary relationships 101
yeah so uh so i mean okay you you i admit i've been a bad friend and i haven't been listening to your
show so um so why don't you go ahead and and start off on your spiel okay well um actually to tell you
the truth like uh since i moved up to chicago i adam my co-host for geek club radio um we've been
kind of like uh on this break like this winter break uh since about mid-december or whatever
and we actually just recording it recorded a show that it's going to be up tonight uh so if anybody
wants to go download it it'll be like out at midnight tonight probably and uh it's like the
valentine's day special show or whatever and but we're going to get back into the swing of things
like we just had to get organized like me moving to chicago and him back in iowa where we do our show
so like we just had to figure out how that was going to work out um but yeah we're like back in
the swing of things pretty much like this show for anybody that hasn't listened to it it's
i guess the only way to compare it is like that show love line like you hear like
on regular radio i guess it's like love line for geeks you know and we pretty much give love advice
you know people email us and like send us instant messages all the time so we get like wide ranges
of emails and all the time it's pretty crazy cool so yeah so i mean what are what are the typical
you know things you see i mean the stereotype is that hackers are you know very much socially inept
and unable to unable to handle themselves in social situations is is that you know pretty much the kind
of stuff that you see when you get viewer email and you answer viewer calls or yeah what kind of
do you get we find most people are just kind of shy you know like they're they're scared to go up to
to like a girl or a guy and like just like initiate conversation and like that that seems like to be one
of the biggest steps especially for like people that haven't done the dating thing much or like
it's just like that scary step you know you don't know what's going to happen and like i've been
working with uh some people about like with it and and i mean it's after you get past that step i mean
it gets pretty easy but i mean just getting past that step in itself is is the hardest part and i mean
like i'm not gonna lie sometimes it takes like a couple months you know just like slowly building
yourself up to it so
so cool so they're just pretty much shy yeah like i'm like on the other hand too it's like one of
those things where like for instance like we get a lot of emails asking about like conversation topics
and stuff like that because a lot of hackers you know they're like all into the tech stuff and
most girls you know to be honest just don't do the whole tech thing so like trying to find common
ground you know between you and like whoever you're trying to talk to sometimes that can get
difficult too and you know to be honest like hackers in general like have a different mindset
than most people obviously you know and like that's why they're hackers like but i mean like the way
people think in general is different so i don't think it's like so like when people start talking
about like nerds and geeks like being really weird or like not having like social you know skills or
whatever you want to call it you know for dating it's not a matter of like not having social skills
it's just like there's a difference in like mindset and like the way people think so like that's mainly
like the biggest problem and like trying to adjust you know to to like other i don't know to other
people because when you're sitting there coding all day and like your main conversation is with like
somebody on irc you know that's not like you know the most socially
productive environment yeah it works it works black hole of being social yeah yeah kind of
but i mean you know anybody can do it to be honest you know it's just a matter of like
actually taking initiative and doing it cool and like that's that's what we talk about so
we have a caller yes so let's grab our caller
hello war are you there
hey what's up hey what's up man what's going on man
welcome to bin rev radio hello
hey what's up um did i interrupt something i'm sorry
what did i interrupt something uh no no no you're you're on you're on the air
oh okay hey um i just wanted to mention that uh in reference to that fellow who phoned about the
asterisk callback visa system uh-huh there's uh there's actually a really good one that's available
on the internet oh really yeah i don't know if you want me to read the url off or what here
yeah point us at the url i thought you might like to know it's uh on nerd nerd vittles blog i don't
know i think it's been mentioned on the forum can you spell that for us finally sorry what can you
spell that for us hello hello hello hello
man we're just having crazy crazy difficulties
i hear a nice little echo too yeah hey hey hello
sorry i heard like this uh 20 seconds of high speed talk i'll come back at one time
freaky okay sorry i'm just looking for the url here okay
it's in my history
so yeah brain dead from canada so i'm allowed to be mentally retarded right
i guess so
oh you gotta be kidding me what
hello hello oh there gotcha okay um what the hell it seemed to just have disappeared out of my
history just as i uh went to go look for it
hmm so it's the irony isn't it yeah you said nerd vittles right n-e-r-d-v-i-t-t-l-e-s or something
oh there it is um yeah that's right uh http colon backslash backslash those are forward
fundy.org slash blog that's m-u-n-d-y period
mm-hmm org o-r-g backslash blog b-l-o-g
um that'll put you to the blog i guess you probably want a direct link don't you
hmm yeah uh tiny url or something and and so while you're doing that do you have a question about uh
about hacker relationship for richard
no i don't i just uh i just thought i had mentioned that are you guys talking about
hacker relationships yeah we are it's our valentine's day special
oh more like our valentine's url do you want to see the tiny url here yeah definitely
okay it's tinyurl.com backslash a b v w three alpha bravo victor whiskey three cool cool
all right so there it is for our for asterisk radio question person yeah for that fellow it
works pretty well okay all right sweet cool all right okay bye see you man
all right so um this is going exceedingly well
see what i'm telling you it's the valentine's day curse it is it is you can't escape it no you can't
you've got the the the fire engines going we've got there oh yeah i think one of the buildings is
like burning down oh yay so so we've got like natural disasters and lack of of love yeah it
happens it happens so tell us more about about like what are some bizarre things that you've gotten on
the radio show uh let's see all right one time we were doing this show and we got emailed about uh
we got emailed from some guy well okay it wasn't really email it was like a text message during the
show and dude i seriously think my building's burning down no okay it was a text message during
the show about some guy that uh he walked in on him and his girlfriend and his best friend
like just having sex in his best friend's house and he was like moving down and he had like his
car full of of like junk you know so he could go move in with his girlfriend and she when he walked
in like the best friend and the girlfriend were just there you know kind of doing it oh no yeah so
he like went back he like the first thing he did i guess is go to a hotel room get on his laptop and
like message us and like ask us what he should do we're just like uh like i don't know oh no yeah it
was like on the spot sort of thing yeah it was great but i feel bad for the kid and like he ended
up like emailing us saying like a couple months later like thanking us for everything and like saying
that he moved on and like he's his he's still friends with his friend but like you know they're not
so close anymore but yeah that was like probably a memorable moment like there's like some weird
lesbian chicks that like wanted us or something they like kept messaging us saying like thank you
for the radio show that like our voices were so sexy and we're just like right we just get weird
crap like that all the time crazy non-stop
and i'm dropping money on the floor
so yeah we're right so i mean like apart from the shyness what are some some of the problems that
you think face uh face hackers who are trying to get into relationships and what what kind of
what what do you what would you say seems different about uh about hackers in relationships and geeks
than uh what you perceive to be your typical you know young adult in a relationship well like the
main thing is this okay most like geeks and nerds or hackers or whatever you want to call it like
they like they'll pretty much be in the relationship like i mean if they're in a relationship they're
like head head on you know like they're not gonna like take crap because i mean most times most of
these people like me included you know like and i'm a geek so like i mean it's when relationships
come they're like far and few between so it's like okay you like work at it as best as you can
and like one of the things that like separates geeks from like most of the people is like just
while they're in the relationship like i mean you'll hear like girls that just say like geeks are
like the best thing on the date just because like they're so nice you know they'll be like
thoughtful and caring and just because they work at it harder than like most people do
that just you know get random relationships like in a bar every other week i mean so like i don't
know i think that's like one of the big differences between like relationships and like the dating
styles between like geeks and like other people other people i don't know how you want to call the
other people but yeah because i mean most people you know go through these relationships like
they're candy and like so they don't treasure it as much i guess and like for instance like this
summer like we were out in like uh los angeles in like your area and like we were like we went and
talked to kat schwartz for a while and like we hung out with her and like we're talking to her and
like did an interview with her and stuff like that and uh she was saying how like she she wouldn't
ever not date a geek just because like geeks are like the best sort of guy to date so
so if you're a geek out there like don't worry like if you can't get anything like right now
because like trust me it'll happen sooner or later like girls will just eat it up
yeah i've i've not been in terribly many relationships myself i've like dated someone
in september or october and then i've like briefly dated somebody in january and that was about it
as far as like serious dating goes yeah like i mean like me personally like i'm always on the
move like right now it wouldn't really be like i don't think it'd be fair like if i was dating
somebody just because like i'm always traveling somewhere like i'm always doing something and
like i don't have enough time like to put into the relationship and like that's a big thing like
we always talk about like on our show is like you got to self-evaluate yourself and like make sure
like you're ready for the relationship because if you're not it's just not going to work out no
matter what you do
dead air uh dead air yeah you gotta love it oh yeah oh yeah no but i mean like okay like one of
the main examples i mean we always get is like you always hear or we'll always you always hear like
the guy you know that's like the nerd or the geek or whatever and you'll be like
like his idea of a date might be like sitting at home playing like video games or like getting
online and playing like world of warcraft or something and when you're in a relationship you
gotta spend like way more time in the relationship than you like you have to like work at it it's not
one of those things that just comes easy and like i think that's that like that's another problem
with like geeks because like i mean for instance like computers you know it's easy for us to get
on a computer and like fix problems and like workout problems but like when it comes to relationship
and like there's so many different like weird things that can go wrong you know and like you're
just not ready for it i think that's kind of like what what like takes it i like most people just don't
understand it you know to be honest well i mean what do you think are some of the barriers to
understanding just i mean because the thing that strikes me as odd is you know as as hackers and
geeks we're so good at picking up these really complicated really technical things really you
really quickly and then uh but when it comes to relationships some so often we're just totally
clueless yeah okay well it's like the way of thinking um i took this whole class on it actually
and basically i mean there's two parts of our brain we use like our right side of our brain and
our left side like the left side is more like the technical aspects of the brain and the right side
is more like the artistic side of your brain and um most like geeks and like computer hackers and
like everything like that they're pretty much like all left-brained and like because of it
everything's like technical everything's like you know everything has its place and and but like
that's not how relationships work so like when you're trying to get like it's like if you were
right-handed and you're trying to like right left-handed you know it takes practice you know
before you can get anything to come out just because you're not i mean you're just used to
one way like all your whole life so that's how it is and like when you're used to like thinking
really technically oriented and like you're good most like left brain people are good at math they're
like good at computers and like i mean they can see code and just like figure out what's wrong with
it as opposed to like somebody who can like i mean and like to be honest like most hackers aren't
artists and like most artists have like the whole right brain thing going on where they can just like
think abstractly and like think in like you know different dimensions and levels and like you know
there's like more emotion that goes into it instead of just like you know technical like
tapping of the keyboard yeah but i guess conversely you you can be too right-brained and then not
really think logically at all exactly exactly it goes both ways and but like i think that's one of
the main like issues when it comes to like just like trying to get like you know a right brain girl
like to to get into like a left brain guy is kind of sort of hard but i mean there's it can happen
but you just got to work at it you know and you have to understand like things aren't going to come
easy like in relationships like they do in computers you know something's wrong just shut the computer
off you can't really do that with a relationship you know so so i mean like the thing that occurs
to me is you know obviously you're you know hackers are very much left-brained people and and girls
are more right-brained what what happens when you know a left-brained hacker meets a left-brained girl
and they're both very technical and they're they're not neither of them is very artistic or emotional
well like when i'm like that's just really like extremes like most people aren't just left-brained
or right-brained right and like the thing is like no matter who you meet there's different levels also
that come into play like personality matches you know like things like you know are you into the
same music or just like random stuff that that just isn't left-brained or right-brained that come
into play but like i mean when say like a right-brained person meets like or two left-brained
people meet you know they have an easier time to click because they like can understand each other
better so it's going to be yeah it'll just be easier for them to like i mean they'll find more
common ground quicker you know they'll almost be into the same things you know sooner or later so
like maybe it's not exactly the same things but it i mean it's just easier for it to happen that way
like realistically speaking most times it just doesn't happen that way and i mean like even
like i said nobody's like either just left-brained or right-brained and like there's always a mix in
between but one side dominates more i guess and like so it just depends well yeah i mean obviously
there's uh you know of course no one's ever extreme i was just saying you know more predominantly
left-brained versus more predominantly right-brained yeah yeah yeah i don't know it's
it happens you know but that's like one of those things you have to work through and like that's
and sometimes it's hard to like understand that you have to actually work at it and it's not
like something that just comes easy and like you see people out there like all the time that you know
just pick up women like it's king like i mean just like walk into like a candy store and you know
but like the thing is like i mean everybody had to start somewhere and like everybody was shy at one
point and it's just working through that and and you know i guess like going with it i mean you can't
really you're never really good at anything you know when you start out so yeah that's true
now the question i have is do you think really that um do you think that it it is it's destined to work
if do you think it's destined to fail if you've got someone who's you know very very logical very
probably left-brained and then someone who's very very right-brained i mean they say that offices
attract and they say that you know it's it's good not to be just like your your partner but i mean
yeah surely there has to be some sort of conflict there yeah i mean there always is going to be a
conflict you know like just the way things work like for instance i mean it's not impossible and it's
actually like i mean it happens all the time but like the thing is there's like i said there's
other issues that go into play like for instance like personality you know like backgrounds like
are you are you from like the same social background sometimes that even has effect you know or like are
you from like do you believe in the same religions and like just stuff like that like once you can find
like more ground between each other that just isn't left brain or right brain related like you have a
more likelihood of making it work so like it's not i mean it's just not like a left brain right
thinking you know it's it's personalities and like making it click you know do you like the same
movies do you listen to the same music you know it's a mixture of everything and like so like when
you sit there and like you meet a girl for the first time you know you're not like automatically
like throwing around one side of the other you know yes or no sort of thing so
but yeah i don't know it just depends on like the girls you meet and like where you actually go meet
like meet girls who are guys if that's the case yeah well i mean where where are good places to find
them and where are bad places to find them bad places like i'm gonna advise like just never go to a bar
expecting to pick up women and like don't ever go to a bar to expect to pick up a woman and like
have a relationship with a woman it can happen i'm not saying it won't happen but like if you think
about it most people go to bars just to have fun you know so like if you're gonna if you like end up
going home with like a girl or like a girl goes home with you or a guy goes home with you or like
whatever it's not one of those things that you can be like okay you know there's gonna be like the
relationship this is it because i mean obviously they went there to have fun you went there to have fun
and like so like the expectations of a relationship aren't there like when you meet especially
especially if you're meeting somebody like when you're drunk because you have no clue like what
they're like in person i mean like if you're only if the only way you've ever seen them is like
with alcohol in them you know you can't really judge somebody and say hey this is you know who i
like this is who i want to be with you know yeah well i know for a fact that the the gay bars are more
more pretty much all about picking up and hooking up people yeah is it just like picking up hooking
up and just being like yeah whatever yeah for the most part yeah sometimes sometimes it results in
longer lasting things but oh my god it's all about sex with the gay bars yeah i mean and like that's
what people okay you know to be honest you see all these girls dressing like to go to the bar and
like skimpy outfits you know they'll have like the mini skirts on and like the the t-shirt that's like
five sizes too small and like the breasts are hanging out you know and like you know girls
don't dress like that just to go get a relationship they dress like that so they can go get some action
and like no matter what any girl says and they're like oh we just want to feel sexy and like stuff
like that i mean that's that's like the underlying fact and you have to realize that like when you go
to these bars they're like you know like they're there for action they're there for fun you know
they're not looking for relationships so if you if your whole reason for going out and like
going to bars and it's like meet women don't expect anything serious to come out of it and like
there's so many people that i know that try and it just never ever ever works
although one place that's pretty good to meet women well like for instance like i'm sure most of the
people that are listening are in college or a lot of people that are listening are in college
um classes like going and like having classes together with people you know and like meeting
up with friends of friends and who knows you know that's always a good way to meet people
there's a comment on the irc channels from riot and they say sub-zero is wrong girls don't dress
slutty for action they do it for attention yeah they do do it for attention but their attention
and their overall purpose is the fact that they want to have like either they're going so they can
you know just like tease all the guys because like girls like to do that sometimes guys like
to do it too uh but like other than that like i mean there's no i mean if they wanted the attention
there there's a reason for the attention you know they want to be seen and they want to be
hit on by guys and like that's the reason for going to the bars it's not like saying hey we're
going to get in a relationship you know i mean like if they were serious about it they wouldn't be
like they're ass hanging out of their like skirt and shit yeah one of the things that i see a lot
is i see very long-distance relationships yes where people you know because it's it's the internet
and people are so used to chatting online with people that they've never met in person i mean that
not only do they meet in person and then get in a relationship and one of them has to move away
so they do the long distance thing but i've seen situations where like they have never met in
person and yet they are together yeah well like there's a problem i mean you can't actually be
together together with somebody you've never really met and like i'm not going to mention any names but
there's like some people that like have recently gone through through this and like have actually
gone farther than just you know getting in a relationship i don't know if you know what i'm talking
about so i'll i'll talk to you later about it anyhow um but i mean like the whole online
relationship thing is a huge deal right now and like like honestly to me like i think it's really
funny to an extent because like you're reading all these nobody has like a clear answer on like
whether it's right or wrong you know and nobody can say whether something's right or wrong just by
like i mean like if they haven't tried it you know don't knock it sort of thing but like the
thing is i mean like who's to say i mean you can't bond in like a certain level or whatever with
somebody that you've never met i mean physical attraction is part of relationship and like you
know actually physically being there but i mean there's other parts of relationships like being on
like same mental level or like like understanding each other and like i think to an extent there's
like stuff that goes on like on the internet you know that you can talk to people and like and like
you can get to know somebody and like who they are without actually judging them for like what they
look like or like whatever so yeah oh no i totally agree it's it's a useful tool i mean i i do it myself
but i think the difference is that you know if if you're like if you're local to each other and you see
each other in person often enough you know then then chatting online is just a way to supplement
that oh yeah definitely yeah and that's a good i mean you can there's a lot of people that like
would normally not say half the stuff they say online you know like they like the internet seems to
just like open people up you know there seems to be like this free talking will or something like
i mean you can meet somebody in person and they'll be like shyest person ever and like you talk to
my mind they could be like the craziest person ever oh yeah well i mean yeah the computer kind
of removes that anxiety of having to be in front of a real person exactly so and like in a part i
mean that that's good but also it's i mean it's not that good because you still need a like the
physical interactions and like seeing people and like how they talk you know body language is a big
issue so i mean you can't be like totally saying you're going to be in a relationship with somebody
online that you've never met and like one of the things is like i can understand if there's obviously
people like everywhere that have like their profiles and everything like that and myspace or facebook or
whatever they're on and like the one thing like that my roommate and i like have always said is like
okay if you're ever talking to somebody online just make sure that's them first you know before you
like start saying like oh man i'm in love and like it's happened like people that i know you know
they they'll like be talking to who they think is the pictures that are being sent to them and then
like just like really find out that it's not you know not the person at all yeah so i mean it happens
all the time so like that's one thing you want to like be careful of like if you're in this like
online sort of dating style you know you just want to make sure you know who you're talking to and
like be like be sure that the person you're talking to is actually who they say they are
oh yeah well i mean it's so interesting i'm kind of an evil person for doing this but um craigslist
has you know has personals which you know vary from you know the typical i'm looking for a date
type of a thing to very much let's just hook up for sex yeah yeah and it's very interesting to troll
the personals and post fake ads and see how people react to different things yeah i've told
the personals before just to see but there's so i mean like there's so many funny things on there
like they just give me some like entertainment sometimes i mean people say like the most random
stuff oh yeah well in fact someone uh let me see someone posted this murdoch actually sent me a link
that's the best craigslist ever and it's it's such a thing okay um
wow oh god that's that's pretty hardcore for for our audience
pretty pretty much it's someone who has a fetish for truck exhaust
oh okay never mind i know where that's going
yeah yeah okay yeah it's kind of crazy dude like i don't know some of these people are like just
really really out there and you just have to what like you have to watch out you know
make sure like you know i mean you can be talking like the nicest girl ever and like you meet her in
person and she's like some dominatrix you know i mean you can't ever be too sure she might pull out
the whip and like start hitting you and throw the handcuffs on you some guys really like that you
know oh i'm sure there's i'm sure a lot of guys like that but you just got to be careful you never
know yeah yeah you never know i guess it's only a bad thing if you're not looking for it what's that
i said i guess it's only a bad thing if it's not what you want yeah no i know and like she can be a
you know or he can be a she you're like you never know yeah well and anyone who's dishonest enough to
uh to to pretend they're a different sex and and not tell you the truth you know it's probably not
worth getting involved in a relationship with anyway yeah exactly exactly i find it interesting
actually a lot of people feel the need to embellish little things online it's not like major lies to
the point where you know the relationship if the lies were discovered to be lies and everything
would fall apart but i i certainly i know people in person and i see their online profile and it
seems like they've embellished more than a few things i usually like to keep it as straight as i
can just because no pun intended but like i like to keep it straight as i can too just because like
i mean you never know who you're gonna meet and like you never know i mean who is gonna like
you know be like hey you know i recognize you and like you're just gonna end up talking to these
people that you've never met but they've seen your profile somewhere which has happened to me i'm like
a lot and like and like it's one of those things like if i just started lying and saying hey you know
what i'm like six five you know and like have blonde hair blue eyes and i don't know i mean there's
just some things you just don't want to lie about and like so like i just always try to keep it is
and like i have no problem like talking about like who i am as a person and everything like that
and like i'm open like even with my name you know most hackers are like oh my god you know
his name's out there or whatever you know i'm like really don't care i have nothing to hide so
oh yeah no so i mean i've i'm fairly open with my close friends about it the only reason that i
adopted different public personas a so that the the stupid script kiddies don't start you know making my
life hell and and be you know on the off chance that this is not my future that you know that i'm
gonna do something else i don't want this coming back to bite me in the ass later on yeah that's
true and like i don't know i have people that will take care of people stupid script kiddies
yeah but actually it is pretty fun because you know sometimes people will like if you're on a date
you can get referred to if the other person's cool enough you get referred to by your handle and by
your real name yeah that's actually happened to me a couple times which is weird like i'll be like
sitting there and like some like i was on a date once and and some guy from like a local meeting
just came up and he's like hey what's up sub-zero and like she's like sub-zero and like she just didn't
say anything at first and she was just really confused about it and she's like what the hell so
then i had to go and like explain you know be like yeah well these guys know me as sub-zero i'm like
i'm actually i don't know it's just weird but like i i find myself like always like if somebody
says sub-zero anywhere like like i automatically like respond to it now it's like i've had the
name for so long so oh yeah same with strom it's like you know it's it's so weird because it's not
my real name and yet i still respond to it like it was my real name yeah it happens you know
that could pose a problem like in your dating if you just start going by strom
yeah i could
but yeah i don't know there's i mean there's lots of situations and like there's so many different
angles and so many things you know obviously like we're in like our second season we have like
50 or 60 shows down and like we've never ran out of materials to talk about dating so
it's like one of those vast subjects that is never going to end oh yeah
well i mean we've got uh we've got a couple minutes left anything else interesting that uh
that you want to bring up
no not really so from from the end we never run out of things to say to oh my gosh we're running
out of things to talk about well no no like i just didn't because there's so much to talk about
like i can't just sit there and like talk about it for three minutes or four minutes or i don't
even know how much time we have left so oh we've we've we've got you know at least 15 to 30 minutes
left oh oh dude when you say running out of time i'm thinking like five minutes oh god no no no no no
no oh oh well all right well then i'm going to talk about myspace because everybody seems to hate
myspace but i love it yeah oh before we get into that there was i think i showed you myspace the
movie yes yes that was great god that was actually yeah i actually uh tracked down the person that
did the movie and like i'm going to get in touch with them i'm going to see if i can work on some
projects actually we'll see yeah but what's what's funny is the whole movie ridicules myspace
and and kind of joking you know lovingly pokes fun at everything then you you find the guy's
website and you look at his photos and it's like the kind of stuff you'd find on myspace yeah yeah i
know that's what's funny because like the opening sequence is like him taking pictures in like the
mirror and like him taking pictures of himself like with his hair like all like you know
every it's just really weird like all the typical myspace pictures that you'd see yeah so it's like
i mean he's kind of making fun of himself in a sense you know but i don't know i enjoyed the
movie thoroughly it was pretty cute yeah and like i don't know like i said most people hate myspace
and like in general but i i love it dude it's like a great site cool i'm gonna get like 50 million
hate mails but yeah but i mean like there's so much to the site i mean you have to want you have
to look at it from like a different point of view i mean obviously as in like a privacy issue it's i
mean yeah i mean you can look at it and say hey you know what you're violating your privacy or like
people can violate your privacy and doing all this stuff but on the other hand like for me for instance
like i have nothing to hide and like i'm only putting out like what i want people to put out
obviously there's stupid people out there that like hey call my cell phone or like you know you have
like all these girls that like get like harassed by all these people because like they actually
don't release their cell phone numbers and like that you know that's just their own stupidity they
need to learn somehow but i mean like my like the idea in general and like just the way the site is
i mean it's just like a great idea like i don't know my roommate calls it the the ghetto of the
internet the ghetto of the internet yeah and he calls it ego masturbation he's like anybody with a
profile it's just all about the ego masturbation but and like i'll admit to it you know it's it's
always good to get like the messages saying hey you're so hot or whatever and but you know what can
you do yeah you're hot hot yeah yeah i've got a profile that's like i i barely touch i think i
created it solely so i because you have to create you have to have a profile to look at people's photos
online or something yeah someone only had his photos hosted on myspace i'm like okay i'll make
an account and i made the account looked at the photos i'm like eh whatever and then i forgot about
the account and then like two years later i start getting people saying uh hey so and so wants to be
your friend like oh okay i i guess yeah and so now i'm very slowly getting sucked into the whole
myspace debacle yeah well i accidentally dropped my myspace like i it was really like private and
like closed in it for a while just because like i i was working on it and like i don't know and like
i was only accepting friends that i knew but like i accidentally said my myspace on like my radio show
geek club radio one time and like within the next couple weeks like now i have like 3 000 friends
like most most like i don't even know who these people are it's just weird like i'll get like
random messages from girls i've never met asking if i'm mad at them because i haven't talked to them
and i'm like i don't even know you but like i don't know and it goes like for instance to like
at my old like the old school that i was at before i transferred here to chicago it was uh it was funny
because like a lot of the people in the area like had me added as friends and like i'd be walking around
and people would like stop me and be like hey you're that kid on myspace and like it's happened to me
like way more than like 10 times like at least on campus and it was just really weird
that has never happened to me ever yeah being like semi-recognized because of myspace
now i feel like yeah i feel used used how so no i'm kidding
violated by myspace yeah i'm violated my my privacy has been violated oh my god
yeah but like i don't know i love i just like the idea of the site like i'm big my biggest thing
like i've always preached is networking with people because like you never know who you're
going to meet and like you never know who's who you're going to meet that knows somebody you know
and like the biggest thing that you can ever do and like not even like in relationships but just
like in life in general you know and like trying to succeed in life is like networking with people
because you don't know i mean like for instance like the other day like i was just randomly talking
to somebody and they're like hey you know what i know this person they might be able to help you out
next thing i know i'm having this big business deal that i can't talk about right now because
of non-disclosure issues but like i mean i'm in this big business deal about like this thing i'm
working on you know and it's like a lot of money that's going to be exchanged and it's all because
like i talked to this person and like they're like hey you know i might know somebody that can help you
out so i mean it's one of those things you can take it for what it's worth and be like yeah you
know what it's a violation of privacy and like there's a whole bunch of issues around it and
you know you're going to have always you're always no matter what you do online you're always going
to have like privacy issues so like that's my main argument for people that are like oh privacy
privacy but like if you're on the internet you know your privacy is pretty much like shot already i
mean like even if you've been careful and like you're using proxies and shit like that you're
always going to leave a trail of something behind so i mean it's not like to me people that preach
that i don't know well i mean it's good to be concerned about your privacy but not to the point
where it um it starts to interfere with your life yeah yeah and like to be honest i mean like look at
it i mean nothing on the site you know is over i mean unless you volunteer information like nothing on
the site is actually going to violate your privacy i mean you say what you want to say and like you put
where you want to be you know you can't i mean you have total control so like people that complain
that it's a privacy issue thing is like okay you know you have control over everything on the site
so that's not really the issue i mean they don't even release your email you know so
it's a privacy issue if you're an idiot exactly it's a privacy issue if you're an idiot
so it's i don't know it's one of those things
in the end i think like other sites have way bigger issues with privacy like that haven't even
been talked about but like everybody's focusing on myspace yeah because it's easy it's like the big
giant right now so yeah it's weird i mean it's like i don't know there's there's so much about
myspace i don't get like i don't understand how people can have the web pages where the page pops
up and it's the the huge animated blinking background that you can't read the text against
and like 35 songs are playing at the same time and oh god that goes okay that goes back to the basic
like everybody's first web page they built look like that i'm not gonna lie my page was like all
blinky like every freaking like gif that looked cool that i could find i would like add it to my
you know to my like geo cities website or whatever and like the thing is i mean that's just how it is
i mean like all these little girls and like kids that like have never worked on web pages before and
they're like oh my god this is so cool like they're not thinking practically like wow this is going to
give a seizure to somebody but they're thinking like wow this kind of looks cool yeah i remember i was
talking with somebody and they pointed me at their their page and it uh you know i wasn't really
having a great time talking to them anyway and then so they pointed me at the page i said what the hell
i'll go look and then i think my comment was oh okay so that's what happens when teletubbies explode
yeah i mean but you gotta like understand like all these people don't know anything about computers or
like design or anything in general they go to like one of those sites generates the code for them and
they're just like go flash cool but anything here yeah exactly exactly a friend of mine was showing
me some some hacks that he did where he was able to derive the person's actual whoever he was able
to derive the user id of any myspace user who looked at his myspace account yeah yeah there's a lot of
different uh scripts and codes out there that are like that are constantly i guess being worked on
and modified there's that one kid uh man i even forget his channel right now somebody will remember
um he had like the huge myspace like script that he that worm you know that he released
that just added like five million people to his like buddy list but i don't know like if that if
anything it's like a great playground to like mess with you know so cool so i think obviously we're
we're kind of winding down in our material yeah i just had to get the myspace thing out oh yeah
it's a great place for finding girls too i mean yeah old enough
yeah i've used to do the uh the dating on myspace thing i'm just kind of like let it sit there and
oh i've there are there are people that want to be my friend interesting so i should give that a shot
and see what happens because i am single after all hey you know yeah yeah man it i've had like
girls fight on my on my comment box area or whatever like just because like one of them will
say something and they'll be like they're like no he likes me better it's just weird dude some of
those people are really crazy in myspace i'm not gonna lie so yeah if you're gay and single and
madly in love with me email radio at bittenrev.com if you're exactly if you're in the la area
if you're in the la area and i'm like it's like one of those like tape you know yeah if you're in
the la area and are gay and single and would like to date strom carlson send an email send that
self-addressed stamped envelope to exactly that'd be hilarious i wonder how many responses you'll get
yeah we'll see probably like none it happens it happens yeah or we'll get like a million joke
responses but nothing real that sucks oh i one more thing before like we finish up or like we wrap
wrapping things up i was gonna say okay this is gonna sound kind of like weird and like you know
anyhow most people like you know how you'll have like non-attractive girls let's face it you know
there's a lot of non-attractive girls or guys you know in that case out there and like one of the
biggest things like that i've learned is never like just be mean to any of those girls i know it's
really hard not to sometimes when like they just are like so annoying and you can't stand them but
they're always gonna have like a hot friend that's like it's just like bound to happen like they
always have the hot friend and like the moment you're mean to that person and like say you want
to hook up with that friend later on you're screwed because like that mean girl's gonna be like no he
was a bitch to me blah blah he you know you're screwed always be nice to to the fat girls and like
the ugly girls because they're the ones that are going to get you dates later on in life you'll see
nice it happens i promise you i'll take your word for it yes
and then like we have a theory you know for every i don't know like who came up with this theory i
think like in high school like way long ago like mid 90s when i was in high school that's kind of
dating me anyhow um but like me and my friend kind of came up with this theory i don't know if it was
around then or anything but like we always said that for every like every ugly girl has a hot friend
and like it's true just the way it works we've got comments in the channel about uh
what you're saying war says that is the worst reason i have ever heard to be nice to someone
fuck you sub-zero that's mean like not even joking that's brutal
dude you don't understand some of like the hottest girls that i've like dated or like been around
have been because like i've been nice to like a girl and like some of these girls you know they'll
want to date you or like they'll want to be like you know more than friends or something like that
but you just have to be honest be like you know what i'm not interested you know i'm looking for
a different sort of girl and as long as you're honest you know and like you're nice and like
respectful and like i've seriously dated like some of the hottest girls because like they're like hey
well i have a friend that might you know and like i'm like oh great you know i'm gonna meet their
friend they're gonna be like 400 pounds like you are god but like no like and then i've gone on like
dates with these people and it's just like supermodels i'm like holy shit you know so yeah
like that's my advice you know just be nice to those people yeah i think be nice to everyone is
just a good piece of advice to keep in mind for for life exactly you never know who you're gonna run
into that guy that you like you're pissed off at you know in the front of the line could be the guy
that's gonna interview you like next week for yeah exactly and you never know you go to the
interview this is the job you really want like hey you're you're you're the guy who um
who is calling my broad voice number hold on just a second hold please hello welcome to binary
revolution radio and they hung up great so yeah the guy you meet in the front line might be the guy
who calls your broad voice number exactly you never know you never know so be nice to people hey
it really does help you know all right so i think we should probably uh we should probably
wrap things up before our listeners get up the guns and blow their own brains out sounds good
so let's let's see what's on the agenda for the end of the show
so um announcements let's see uh if you're in the los angeles area dc213 that's friday
don't forget to go to layer1.info and uh and register pre-register for layer one
if you're in the los angeles area or if you're even not in the los angeles area and you want to
come to a hacker convention in the spring in beautiful pasadena california
trying to pimp out california are you oh i am i mean hell my friends run run the conference i figure
i should uh you know if you're yeah i figure i should pimp it out i mean it is after all i'm
speaking there so why wouldn't you want to come see it of course of course you'd want to trust me
you're going to want to go see strong speech yeah yeah trust me like yeah it's it's awesome
it just turns me on thinking about it do you have any announcements um nothing yeah not like
nothing i can go public with right now so unfortunately it sucks but yeah um yeah no i don't have nothing
now that i've finally turned a straight guy on for the first time um do we oh side of the week
hmm uh i didn't pick one do you have a site that you'd like to make side of the week
uh yeah have a geek club radio duh okay you can do my side of the week yeah what what is your url
geeklove.net no geekloveradio.com geekloveradio.com yep cool cool and if you guys have any dating
questions just email geekloveradio at gmail.com or richard at geekloveradio.com or we have a
contact thing just jump on the website and fill out the forms and just push send and it'll send us
the email so cool shout do you have any shouts uh my roommate adam that's couldn't make it on the
show he wanted to but he's busy with some art stuff right now ah damn yeah all right yeah i'm i'm there
are people in the irc channel demanding that i give them shouts but um i i think give a shout out
to war because he called in yeah give a shout out to war for being our only caller yeah but um
but no i'm gonna give a shout to uh to lance james who's been really really awesome this week
he was on our show recently cool
uh i'm gonna give a shout out to the city of chicago just because it rocks here and i'd invite
anybody who wants to come out to chicago just you know and want to hang out just let me know
he wants to hook up with all of you yes i want to hook up i'll i'll actually uh hook all you guys
up with women out here because i have a lot of fashion shoots that i've been doing with a lot
of hot models so so our closing music this week is uh i'm not quite sure how you pronounce this
the the the name of the band is is three exclamation points all in a row
it kind of sounds like ah in my head or something yeah it's like yeah i don't know it's a i don't have
any uh any way to pronounce it it's just like shock you know it's like it's a facial expression
yes so the great name for band what less dirty face no no no no just like the the fact that they're
like just you know there's like no way to explain you know who they are yeah like you know that one
band you know three exclamation points oh maybe that's i'm being told it's pronounced chick chick
chick chick chick chick yeah which which doesn't make any sense because i would have pronounced
it bang bang bang isn't there a song called bang bang bang yeah there's an animation i don't want
to talk to you i just want bang bang i just want bang bang bang yeah we're saying it's pronounced
ie yeah who knows all right just make up your own shit for it and then like yeah it'll be good
so um the the name of the song is is this thing on i think yeah that's great sorry hello is this
thing on great until i took awesome notes so um yeah seeing as this has been the biggest disaster
of a valentine's day episode ever it's valentine's day it had to happen yeah it had to happen you
all of us single dudes with bad luck yeah exactly so anyway we have been my radio we'll see you next
week same hack time same hack channel
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Thank you.