WEBVTT

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This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers

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I see in binary, I speak source code

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Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose

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In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho

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Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold

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I was a dick with my 56

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Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable

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On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo

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On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a Nero

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In a flash, I'll school you on burning dream caps

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You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle

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Our exchange you could never stifle

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In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug

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I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z

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Your CG, it's all gonna be free

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Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely

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You feel that rattle in your bones?

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When I tell you we just hacked out Jones

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And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the criminals

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Serial phones, source code with ISO

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Hello and welcome to Binary Revolution Radio

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Episode number 137 for Fat Tuesday

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September 28th, September, February 28th, 2006

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I'm Strom Carlson

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Wow, you can't even tell what the hell September is

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Why would you even think that Fat Tuesday is in September?

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We're almost on the opposite side of September

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I guess so, jeez

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I'm Black Ratchet and we have today as our co-host is Useless

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Yo

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He's not Useless, but that's what his next handle is

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Oh, that's debatable

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Who's going to be

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I don't know, I

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You kind of proved beer

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You know what the heck you're talking about at least

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I don't know, Strom's met me

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Yeah, kind of useless

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No, no, not useless

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You gave me beer

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I'm happy about that

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Why don't I get beer?

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Cause you weren't

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Cause you didn't come to my city

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Yeah, you didn't come down to TourCon

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And meet up and get free beer

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Well, you people should have your damn cons on the freaking East Coast

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That's what it comes down to

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No, no, no

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It's going to be cons on the East Coast

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Dear God

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Make Boston a two-hour drive away

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Just like San Diego

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And I will be there

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I'm going to be trying to go to New York

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So if you want to meet me, show up

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Hopefully I will be there

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Yeah, I hope so too

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So anyway, we are

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We'll all be at Coke

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Hopefully I'll be presenting at Coke

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But anyway

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We are live tonight

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We're already veering off topic

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And talking about beer and Coke

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Oh yeah

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Oh yeah

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So anyway, we are live again once tonight

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Live once again tonight

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And if you'd like to call in

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And berate us about anything you want

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Our call-in numbers are

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From within the continental US

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888-9-BINREV

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Toll-free call

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So no complaints about

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Oh, I have to

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It's a toll call

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I can't use the phone

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It's free

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888-9-BINREV

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If you're calling from outside

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And I assume Zygmunt's answering the phones

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Yeah, we assume Zygmunt's somewhere

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They're answering the phones

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If you're calling from outside the US

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It's country code

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1-213-415-1047

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And if you're calling from the UK

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If you're up at this crazy hour in the UK

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It's 0845-646-0102

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We assume that still works

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We think

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Someone should tell us if it doesn't

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Actually, we

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I tried to dial it tonight

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With something that we're going to actually talk about later

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In one of the emails

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And I couldn't get to it

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But of course it was like

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It was dropping

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The service was like

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Please enter the country code

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And the

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You know

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The number you want to dial

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It kept on bombing out

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When I hit the 0

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Let me pick up my home phone

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And dial this

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And see what happens

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You're actually going to dial

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Wow

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This is dedication right here

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This is dedicated

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Well, Strom is sort of dialing up

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We have a couple of housekeeping issues from last week

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I think this is the first to actually have

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Like housekeeping issues to talk about

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There apparently is a Linux phone out there

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And it's available in China

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It's tinyurl.com

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Slash

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Golf

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Golf

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Hotel

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X-Ray

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Victor

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And it's made in China

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And I don't think it's actually released stateside yet

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But

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It runs Linux

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And I guess you can do

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Linux-y things on it

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Yeah, all it did was hang up on me

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And it squeaked and it hung up

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So I don't know how well it works

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It may not work from outside the UK

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I don't know

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Well, it's like

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Supposed to be like a special number or something

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I guess

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From what he was telling me

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Or it's like

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Like low rate or something

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I don't know

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Oh, yeah

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If it's a special number from within the UK

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For rate reasons

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Then obviously it's not going to work from outside

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So there's no way I can test it

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Yeah

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Oh, well

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Yeah, I don't know

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So before we go too off-topic

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Should we

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What should we do?

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Should we jump into our email

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Or should we

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Announce our

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Tonight's topic first

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And then jump into the email

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Well, let's

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I mean, we were talking about the

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We have the

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The PDA expertos

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Have both published photos of the

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Higher smartphone

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Running Access Linux Platform

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So

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I don't know what Access Linux Platform is

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Or anything

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And the photos they have

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Just looks very weird

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Like it definitely looks like a mock-up

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With like the

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The

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The picture of the screen is

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Like photoshopped in

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So

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Who knows

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But I guess there are Linux phones out there

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And we also have a

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We have a

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Somewhat

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Semi-live report

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You know

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Via satellite, I guess

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The email could have bounced off a satellite

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Natus is

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From last week's episode

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NTP vs. Rim

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Natus says

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For anyone who didn't hear the news on Friday

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Rim got lucky

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And the judge had enough sense

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To not make a ruling just yet

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It may happen

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But the judge did not give a specific date

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Just as soon as reasonably possible

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He might be waiting for the patent offices

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To reject the rest of NTP patents

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Which will be happening soon

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Or maybe he's waiting for a settlement

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But I don't think that'll ever happen

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So for now

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I can still have my Crackberry

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An email to

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Fear

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Hack the plaintiffs

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Natus

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With the Nikes in the summer

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And the mink when it's cold

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I don't get the reference

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But I'm assuming

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It has

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Some type of

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Probably some song

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But I've never heard

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Well

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Natus

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Where is mink right now

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Because it's probably very cold

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So yes

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So

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Yes

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So

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And I don't think he actually

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Explicitly mentioned it

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But one of Blackberry's patents

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Got rejected

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Was that

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I don't remember when that happened

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I think that happened

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Between that

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Last show and now

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No before

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Before the show

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At least one

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Had a non-final rejection

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And then

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I don't know

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If any more

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Yeah let's move to be

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A final rejection now

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Ah okay

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Sweet

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I think

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I don't know

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See if Natus was here

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He'd know this

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But he's not

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So we're boned

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I don't know

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Do you want to go into email first

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Or do you want to toot your own horn

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Hmm

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I guess I might as well

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Toot my own horn

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Actually

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Okay we can toot your own horn now

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No no actually no

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Go strong

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Better to leave it for hacking stories

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Right

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Alright that works

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That works

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Okay

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For all the

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So don't go away

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We'll have excitement

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And personal hacking stories

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Don't go away

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We have big giant news

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And stuff

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Yeah

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The stuff especially

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You know

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Our first email is from

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Voltagex

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And he writes

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I assume it's not here

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Hi dollar sign hosts

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I was wondering if it's possible

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To run a brute force attack

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Against a wide range of encryptions

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Or if there's a way to identify

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What encryption method

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Something is using

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I'm not trying to do anything malicious

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I'm just curious to know

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How my favorite online game communicates

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Thanks in advance

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Voltagex

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Just to get this out here

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First

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El Jefe

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Also says

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That the UK number

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Is not working for him

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But he's not also

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From the UK

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I think

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Unless he suddenly moved

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So

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We don't think

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The UK number works

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And we will endeavor

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To have that fixed

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By the next show

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As to address

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Voltagex's email

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The wonderful thing

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About encryption

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Is that

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You need to break it

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In order to figure out

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What the heck it's doing

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Basically there's no real rate

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Of brute force

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An encryption method

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That you don't know works

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Because basically

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Brute forcing is trying

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Every possible way

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Of breaking it

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And

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You need to know

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How it works

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In order to

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You need to know

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How it works

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In order to break it

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Yeah

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Whether it's like an AES

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Or

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Whatever

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Well it's a symmetric

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Asymmetric

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Yeah exactly

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What the key length is

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The algorithm it works

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And key length

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Exactly

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So

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You basically

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Need to break it

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In order to find out

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What it is

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In order to break it

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So

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Chicken and the egg

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Sorry

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You're

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Yeah you're

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You're a bit hosed

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If you want to start

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Like looking into

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Doing

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Breaking ciphers

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And everything

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Just to get this started

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I'm assuming

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It's some type of

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Probably symmetric cipher

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Where basically

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The client knows

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A special key

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And the server

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Knows a special key

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And it's just a matter

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Of finding out

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What that special key is

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To break the encryption

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If it's encrypted

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In the first place

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We don't know

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It may just be

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Obfuscated

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Yeah it's probably

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Definitely almost

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It's almost definitely

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Symmetric as

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Sort of an asymmetric

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Key would be

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A bit of an overkill

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Because mostly

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Asymmetric is

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Two separate parties

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Who don't know

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About each other

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As opposed to

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This where it's

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Basically

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How everything works

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Yeah pretty much

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Good luck

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Have fun

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Yes and we've

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Also confirmed

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That the UK number

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Is down completely

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Thank you

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El jefe

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El jefe

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I can never

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Pronounce Spanish

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El jefe

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Yeah well

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That's because

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You don't live

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In Southern California

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You couldn't

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Pronounce

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Okay our next email

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Is from

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The Lipo Man

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And he says

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Dear H&CH

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I assume that's

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You and me

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Or something

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Thank you for making

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Host and co-host

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Oh host and co-host

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Okay

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I didn't know

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Well I don't know

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I'm kind of inept

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At these things

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Thank you for making

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The tour episode

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Now I can surf freely

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And watch

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She-mail pictures

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There's something

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About a man with boobs

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That makes me horny

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Ah ah

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Stick that in me now

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Oh

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Bang

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Yep

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And um

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Yeah

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These

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These wonderful people

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Are our listeners

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Hello audience

11:25.340 --> 11:26.520
Thank you for that email

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And we're glad

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That Tori can assist you

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In surfing

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She-mail porn

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Yeah

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That's kind of

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Disturbing

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Hey you know

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That's what the internet's about

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Porn

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Wares

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And mp3s

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Yeah I guess so

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It takes a lot

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To disturb me

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Though

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And that

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Yeah

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I'm sorry

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Minorly disturbing

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I can really like

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Start pushing your buttons

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About this

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But I'm not going to

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And we're going to

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Attempt to keep this

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Show G-rated

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Yes

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Well that's why

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I'm dancing around

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Actually saying anything

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Alright

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Next

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Next email

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Is from G.I. Joe

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And says

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Hello

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Just a thought

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Have you ever considered

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Running a voicemail

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On the 8

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I assume means

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On the toll free number

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During the week

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And gadget podcast

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So then if you aren't

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Getting calls

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You can just play

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Voicemail questions

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Left during the course

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Of the week

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Hugs and kisses

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G.I. Joe

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This is one of

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Hugs and kisses

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Hugs and kisses

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Well we love you too

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G.I. Joe

12:23.700 --> 12:25.300
And I've got a bottle of lube

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With your name on it

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But anyways

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Actually

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I keep forgetting

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To turn the 800 number

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Onto the voicemail

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During the week

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What I really need to do

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Is have it do

12:38.600 --> 12:39.000
Some sort of

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Time based system

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Where

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Pretty much

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If you call

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During the show

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It routes you

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To our call in queue

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And then if you call

12:46.480 --> 12:47.360
When we're not

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Doing the show

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Then it routes you

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To voicemail

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But I think

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The problem with that

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Is that should we

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Ever do a show

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Pre-recorded

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I would then have

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To remember

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Not to turn that on

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So you'll then

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Wait in the queue

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Forever during

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The entire show

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So yeah

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I'll start doing that

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Starting after this show

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Actually

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And then

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I believe

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With asterisk

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You can say

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If someone calls

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Between

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X and I

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That bit is totally

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Easy to do

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Time based reading

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And whatever

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But I just don't

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Want it to be

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So that if we ever

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Do a pre-recorded show

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I'll forget to turn it

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On to voicemail

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For that particular

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Hour of the show

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Then we get people

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Calling in

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And just waiting

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And waiting

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And waiting

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And getting

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Getting angry at us

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And so on

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Well that's why

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We always say that

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Hey you know

13:35.280 --> 13:36.360
This show is pre-recorded

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We're not live

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We're not taking phone calls

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True

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They don't pay attention

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To that

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I guess

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But

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They're doomed

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Yeah

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It is my account

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The money for the calls

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Comes out of

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Excuse me

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It's our account

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Okay okay

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It's our account

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But whatever

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We've got to pay for it

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That was my Defcon money too

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Damn it

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Alright alright

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In any event

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Yeah it's coming out

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Of our pocket

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So

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Our next email

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So are you going to say

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That it's going to be on

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After the show

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Or after

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Yeah it'll be on voicemail

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After we do this show

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Okay so

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G.I. Joe can call in

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And leave voicemails

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And talk about

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How he loves us so much

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And then next

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Next week

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Two whole hours

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Of nothing but voicemails

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That say

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Dead hookers

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Dead hookers

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Dead hookers

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Well we have to

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Scan them out first

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Of course

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Of course

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Anyway

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Alright so

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This next email

14:36.040 --> 14:36.660
Is from

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As he claims

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We're supposed to

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Pronounce it

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RHNnet

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Hi hosts

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Slash co-hosts

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I really enjoy

14:43.840 --> 14:44.240
Your show

14:44.240 --> 14:44.840
But I was listening

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To show number

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136

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The Blackberry Battle

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And there was

14:47.740 --> 14:48.400
Some misinformation

14:48.400 --> 14:49.060
In the opening

14:49.060 --> 14:49.860
Part of your show

14:49.860 --> 14:50.880
It was said

14:50.880 --> 14:51.540
That Kevin Rose

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Was suing

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Dig.de

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Slash

14:54.200 --> 14:55.040
Yig.de

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However

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In the last episode

14:56.780 --> 14:57.280
Of Twit

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Episode 43

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That's

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Twit.tv

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Kevin Rose

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Talks about this

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And says

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That the company

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Has had no contact

15:03.560 --> 15:04.980
With dig.de

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Slash

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Yig.de

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Whatsoever

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However

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Dig.de

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Slash

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Yig.de

15:09.560 --> 15:10.160
Said that they

15:10.160 --> 15:10.940
Were being sued

15:10.940 --> 15:11.680
Kevin says

15:11.680 --> 15:12.040
That they are

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Just trying to

15:12.520 --> 15:13.020
Get attention

15:13.020 --> 15:14.260
So Kevin Rose

15:14.260 --> 15:14.920
Did not do anything

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To scare

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Dig.de

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Slash

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Yig.de

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Just wanted

15:17.960 --> 15:18.900
To clear things up

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Keep up the great work

15:20.280 --> 15:21.420
RHNnet

15:21.420 --> 15:22.240
On the bus

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In Canada

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On the bus

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Get on the bus

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Woo

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Yeah he's

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He's doing

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Metaphorical

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Or sending it

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From a mobile

15:31.840 --> 15:32.180
Phone

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I'm assuming

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He's sending it

15:34.680 --> 15:35.100
From a mobile

15:35.100 --> 15:35.360
Phone

15:35.360 --> 15:35.900
We don't do

15:35.900 --> 15:36.340
Stuff that's

15:36.340 --> 15:36.840
Metaphorical

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On bin

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Riv

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No

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No metaphor

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Ever

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Yes exactly

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I mean

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Yeah

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I mean

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I

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Of course

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You know

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I found about

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This just

15:47.020 --> 15:47.660
Before the show

15:47.660 --> 15:48.100
And I ran

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To a rave

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About it

15:48.740 --> 15:49.200
On the show

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And then

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The next day

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I expect

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You know

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Slash

15:51.500 --> 15:51.660
Dot

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To pick

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It up

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Maybe

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CNET

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And talk

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About how

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Everything

15:55.080 --> 15:55.600
Is horrible

15:55.600 --> 15:56.060
Is happening

15:56.060 --> 15:56.860
With you know

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Online

15:57.420 --> 15:58.300
Trademarks

15:58.300 --> 15:59.060
And copyrights

15:59.060 --> 15:59.660
And no one

15:59.660 --> 16:00.040
Picked it up

16:00.040 --> 16:00.460
So I started

16:00.460 --> 16:01.200
Doing some research

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In it

16:01.460 --> 16:01.920
And I really

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Couldn't

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Besides like

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Like a handful

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Of English

16:08.160 --> 16:09.460
Like two or three

16:09.460 --> 16:10.440
English speaking sites

16:10.440 --> 16:11.020
Carried this

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And there was

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A good amount

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Of stuff on

16:13.900 --> 16:15.520
Like a bunch of

16:15.520 --> 16:16.640
Blogs in Germany

16:16.640 --> 16:17.340
About you know

16:17.340 --> 16:18.140
Yig

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Slash

16:18.480 --> 16:18.720
Dig

16:18.720 --> 16:19.000
Dot

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De

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And I

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Translated

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A couple

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Of them

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And a lot

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Of them

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Said that

16:24.760 --> 16:25.640
You know

16:25.640 --> 16:26.120
Oh they

16:26.120 --> 16:26.560
Are being

16:26.560 --> 16:27.040
Sued

16:27.040 --> 16:27.460
Oh they

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Aren't

16:27.680 --> 16:28.180
Being sued

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But they're

16:28.480 --> 16:28.900
Changing their

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Name

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Oh they're

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Running

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Scared

16:30.400 --> 16:32.800
And I've

16:32.800 --> 16:33.220
Never actually

16:33.220 --> 16:33.640
Seen something

16:33.640 --> 16:34.140
That actually

16:34.140 --> 16:34.680
Would they

16:34.680 --> 16:35.160
Say they're

16:35.160 --> 16:35.600
Being sued

16:35.600 --> 16:35.880
I've seen

16:35.880 --> 16:36.140
A lot of

16:36.140 --> 16:36.600
People say

16:36.600 --> 16:37.360
That they

16:37.360 --> 16:37.820
Are being

16:37.820 --> 16:38.200
Sued

16:38.200 --> 16:39.440
But nothing

16:39.440 --> 16:40.060
Actually coming

16:40.060 --> 16:40.620
From them

16:40.620 --> 16:42.980
So but

16:42.980 --> 16:44.200
As for whether

16:44.200 --> 16:44.600
Or not they're

16:44.600 --> 16:45.440
Making attention

16:45.440 --> 16:46.780
I really just

16:46.780 --> 16:47.380
Think it's

16:47.380 --> 16:48.380
They they

16:48.380 --> 16:49.600
Basically like

16:49.600 --> 16:50.700
You know

16:50.700 --> 16:51.200
Dig dot

16:51.200 --> 16:51.700
Dig dot

16:51.700 --> 16:52.420
Com did

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Come out

16:54.780 --> 16:55.300
And basically

16:55.300 --> 16:56.420
Register dig

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Dot com

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There's a dig

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Trademark in

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The European

16:59.880 --> 17:00.860
Union I think

17:00.860 --> 17:01.220
I said like

17:01.220 --> 17:01.860
The 17th or

17:01.860 --> 17:02.300
Something and

17:02.300 --> 17:02.900
So four days

17:02.900 --> 17:03.520
Later this

17:03.520 --> 17:03.880
You know

17:03.880 --> 17:04.240
Yig

17:04.240 --> 17:05.300
Or dig

17:05.300 --> 17:05.860
Dot de

17:05.860 --> 17:06.400
Changed their

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Name to

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Yig dot

17:07.040 --> 17:07.240
De

17:07.240 --> 17:07.620
And I

17:07.620 --> 17:08.280
I really

17:08.280 --> 17:08.760
Think what

17:08.760 --> 17:09.140
It is

17:09.140 --> 17:10.340
Is I

17:10.340 --> 17:10.900
Think that

17:10.900 --> 17:11.420
Basically it

17:11.420 --> 17:11.620
Was a

17:11.620 --> 17:12.140
Chilling effect

17:12.140 --> 17:13.640
And plus

17:13.640 --> 17:13.840
You know

17:13.840 --> 17:14.380
Kevin Rose

17:14.380 --> 17:15.020
Is you know

17:15.020 --> 17:15.460
The devil

17:15.460 --> 17:15.960
Incarnate

17:15.960 --> 17:16.240
So

17:16.240 --> 17:17.620
And we

17:17.620 --> 17:17.980
Should all

17:17.980 --> 17:18.560
Know that

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I

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Personally I'm

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Just concerned

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About

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The chilling

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Effect it has

17:25.280 --> 17:25.740
Like you know

17:25.740 --> 17:26.060
If I

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If I go out

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And I

17:27.100 --> 17:27.520
Register

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I don't know

17:30.440 --> 17:30.780
I can't really

17:30.780 --> 17:31.140
Pick up a good

17:31.140 --> 17:31.280
Name

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So if I

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Come out

17:31.920 --> 17:32.100
And I

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Register

17:32.500 --> 17:33.380
Dogball

17:33.380 --> 17:33.840
Trademark

17:33.840 --> 17:34.480
A name

17:34.480 --> 17:35.680
Yeah well

17:35.680 --> 17:36.220
I mean

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If I come out

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And I

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Trademark

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Slash

17:38.460 --> 17:38.760
Dot

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I mean

17:39.980 --> 17:40.320
Can I

17:40.320 --> 17:40.720
Sue them

17:40.720 --> 17:40.980
At that

17:40.980 --> 17:41.260
Point

17:41.260 --> 17:41.720
Or do

17:41.720 --> 17:42.060
They have

17:42.060 --> 17:42.360
To change

17:42.360 --> 17:42.480
Their

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Name

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Or are

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They

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Going to

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Be scared

17:43.680 --> 17:44.800
Or

17:44.800 --> 17:46.120
Or if I

17:46.120 --> 17:46.400
Come out

17:46.400 --> 17:46.620
And I

17:46.620 --> 17:47.060
Trademark

17:47.060 --> 17:47.600
Binrev

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And I'm

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You know

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I want to

17:50.120 --> 17:50.500
Like you know

17:50.500 --> 17:51.080
Take binrev

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For my own

17:51.620 --> 17:52.820
Nefarious need

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It's

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It's

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I mean

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This person

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Has had

17:56.000 --> 17:56.260
This

17:56.260 --> 17:57.280
These people

17:57.280 --> 17:57.680
Have had

17:57.680 --> 17:58.240
This website

17:58.240 --> 17:58.680
For

17:58.680 --> 18:00.000
You know

18:00.000 --> 18:00.740
I think

18:00.740 --> 18:02.860
Since 1999

18:02.860 --> 18:04.060
Or so

18:04.060 --> 18:05.280
Well they

18:05.280 --> 18:05.580
Had this

18:05.580 --> 18:05.860
Website

18:05.860 --> 18:06.140
For a

18:06.140 --> 18:06.420
While

18:06.420 --> 18:06.820
And you

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Know

18:06.960 --> 18:07.260
If

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Someone

18:08.460 --> 18:08.960
Comes along

18:08.960 --> 18:09.400
And registers

18:09.400 --> 18:09.860
A name

18:09.860 --> 18:11.040
Or trademarks

18:11.040 --> 18:11.280
A name

18:11.280 --> 18:11.560
They have

18:11.560 --> 18:11.900
To change

18:11.900 --> 18:12.020
It

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It

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Just

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It

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Sucks

18:13.100 --> 18:14.240
I mean

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This

18:14.560 --> 18:15.460
What this

18:15.460 --> 18:15.660
Really

18:15.660 --> 18:16.200
Reminds me

18:16.200 --> 18:16.480
Of

18:16.480 --> 18:17.080
Is

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A

18:18.280 --> 18:18.720
Lighter

18:18.720 --> 18:19.060
Version

18:19.060 --> 18:19.480
Well

18:19.480 --> 18:20.040
Technically

18:20.040 --> 18:20.560
It really

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Doesn't

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Because it

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Wasn't

18:21.460 --> 18:21.740
Actually

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A

18:21.880 --> 18:22.200
Lawsuit

18:22.200 --> 18:22.420
But it

18:22.420 --> 18:22.540
Was

18:22.540 --> 18:22.720
I

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Think

18:22.940 --> 18:23.020
I

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Mentioned

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It

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Last

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Week

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Etoys.com

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And

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Etoys.org

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Oh yeah

18:29.280 --> 18:29.560
They were

18:29.560 --> 18:30.100
Etoys

18:30.100 --> 18:30.360
And there

18:30.360 --> 18:30.500
Was

18:30.500 --> 18:31.140
Etoys

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I

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Don't

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Remember

18:32.260 --> 18:32.700
Oh yes

18:32.700 --> 18:32.960
That was

18:32.960 --> 18:33.260
The case

18:33.260 --> 18:33.580
Was

18:33.580 --> 18:33.940
But it

18:33.940 --> 18:34.080
Was

18:34.080 --> 18:34.340
Years

18:34.340 --> 18:34.720
Ago

18:34.720 --> 18:36.340
Etoys

18:36.340 --> 18:37.000
Is

18:37.000 --> 18:37.140
The

18:37.140 --> 18:37.320
Now

18:37.320 --> 18:37.760
Defunct

18:37.760 --> 18:38.260
Online

18:38.260 --> 18:38.660
Toy

18:38.660 --> 18:39.120
Shop

18:39.120 --> 18:39.300
And

18:39.300 --> 18:39.900
Etoys

18:39.900 --> 18:40.120
Was

18:40.120 --> 18:40.320
Like

18:40.320 --> 18:40.500
Some

18:40.500 --> 18:40.720
Sort

18:40.720 --> 18:40.940
Of

18:40.940 --> 18:41.760
What

18:41.760 --> 18:41.920
Were

18:41.920 --> 18:42.040
They

18:42.040 --> 18:42.240
Like

18:42.240 --> 18:42.820
A

18:42.820 --> 18:43.520
Comedy

18:43.520 --> 18:43.780
Group

18:43.780 --> 18:43.940
Or

18:43.940 --> 18:44.040
An

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Art

18:44.240 --> 18:44.460
Group

18:44.460 --> 18:44.620
Or

18:44.620 --> 18:44.820
Something

18:44.820 --> 18:45.140
Like

18:45.140 --> 18:45.360
They

18:45.360 --> 18:45.520
Did

18:45.520 --> 18:45.660
They

18:45.660 --> 18:45.780
Were

18:45.780 --> 18:46.160
German

18:46.160 --> 18:47.140
They

18:47.140 --> 18:48.520
Were

18:48.520 --> 18:48.860
German

18:48.860 --> 18:49.100
They

18:49.100 --> 18:49.340
Been

18:49.340 --> 18:49.600
Around

18:49.600 --> 18:49.900
Since

18:49.900 --> 18:50.160
Like

18:50.160 --> 18:50.320
The

18:50.320 --> 18:50.500
Late

18:50.500 --> 18:51.200
80s

18:51.200 --> 18:51.460
Or

18:51.460 --> 18:51.680
The

18:51.680 --> 18:51.980
Early

18:51.980 --> 18:52.540
90s

18:52.540 --> 18:52.640
Or

18:52.640 --> 18:52.780
Some

18:52.780 --> 18:53.160
Ridiculously

18:53.160 --> 18:53.420
Long

18:53.420 --> 18:53.720
Time

18:53.720 --> 18:54.240
And

18:54.240 --> 18:54.400
Then

18:54.400 --> 18:55.140
Etoys

18:55.140 --> 18:55.540
Sued

18:55.540 --> 18:56.220
Etoys

18:56.220 --> 18:56.780
And

18:56.780 --> 18:57.280
Etoys

18:57.280 --> 18:57.440
Had

18:57.440 --> 18:57.620
Only

18:57.620 --> 18:57.780
Been

18:57.780 --> 18:58.100
Around

18:58.100 --> 18:58.660
Since

18:58.660 --> 18:59.800
1999

18:59.800 --> 19:00.380
Or

19:00.380 --> 19:00.620
Something

19:00.620 --> 19:00.860
Like

19:00.860 --> 19:01.100
That

19:01.100 --> 19:02.460
I

19:02.460 --> 19:02.620
Want

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To

19:02.680 --> 19:02.780
Say

19:02.780 --> 19:02.960
That

19:02.960 --> 19:03.400
1998

19:03.400 --> 19:04.040
Actually

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Because

19:05.440 --> 19:05.620
They

19:05.620 --> 19:05.800
Went

19:05.800 --> 19:06.300
Public

19:06.300 --> 19:07.260
While

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I

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Was

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Still

19:07.760 --> 19:07.900
In

19:07.900 --> 19:08.260
College

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Or

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While

19:09.260 --> 19:09.360
I

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Had

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My

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Freshman

19:09.840 --> 19:10.060
Year

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It

19:10.580 --> 19:10.740
Might

19:10.740 --> 19:10.880
Be

19:10.880 --> 19:11.380
1999

19:11.380 --> 19:11.820
Yeah

19:11.820 --> 19:12.100
Because

19:12.100 --> 19:13.600
I

19:13.600 --> 19:13.700
Don't

19:13.700 --> 19:14.000
Know

19:14.000 --> 19:14.380
Hey

19:14.380 --> 19:14.860
1999

19:14.860 --> 19:15.360
Early

19:15.360 --> 19:15.980
1999

19:15.980 --> 19:16.400
Or

19:16.400 --> 19:16.640
Late

19:16.640 --> 19:17.320
1998

19:17.320 --> 19:17.740
Yeah

19:17.740 --> 19:18.260
1999

19:18.260 --> 19:18.740
Was

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The

19:18.960 --> 19:19.260
Year

19:19.260 --> 19:19.460
Of

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Tech

19:19.740 --> 19:19.960
Into

19:19.960 --> 19:20.120
Our

19:20.120 --> 19:20.380
Web

19:20.380 --> 19:20.840
So

19:20.840 --> 19:21.920
Yes

19:21.920 --> 19:23.260
I

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Remember

19:23.540 --> 19:23.960
All

19:23.960 --> 19:24.220
Of

19:24.220 --> 19:24.560
My

19:24.560 --> 19:26.160
People

19:26.160 --> 19:26.360
On

19:26.360 --> 19:26.520
My

19:26.520 --> 19:26.900
Floor

19:26.900 --> 19:27.140
Like

19:27.140 --> 19:28.040
There

19:28.040 --> 19:28.180
Was

19:28.180 --> 19:28.320
Like

19:28.320 --> 19:28.540
Two

19:28.540 --> 19:28.700
Or

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Three

19:28.840 --> 19:29.140
People

19:29.140 --> 19:29.360
Who

19:29.360 --> 19:29.520
Had

19:29.520 --> 19:29.700
Just

19:29.700 --> 19:29.920
Like

19:29.920 --> 19:31.120
Constantly

19:31.120 --> 19:31.320
Was

19:31.320 --> 19:31.480
Like

19:31.480 --> 19:31.780
Oh

19:31.780 --> 19:32.040
Get

19:32.040 --> 19:32.260
Rich

19:32.260 --> 19:32.520
Quick

19:32.520 --> 19:32.780
Get

19:32.780 --> 19:33.020
Rich

19:33.020 --> 19:33.260
Quick

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Dude

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If

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We

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Do

19:33.900 --> 19:34.100
This

19:34.100 --> 19:34.240
We'll

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Just

19:34.380 --> 19:34.540
Get

19:34.540 --> 19:34.780
Rich

19:34.780 --> 19:35.160
And

19:35.160 --> 19:35.240
They

19:35.240 --> 19:35.320
Were

19:35.320 --> 19:35.460
Like

19:35.460 --> 19:35.820
Oh

19:35.820 --> 19:35.960
My

19:35.960 --> 19:36.220
God

19:36.220 --> 19:36.380
We

19:36.380 --> 19:36.500
Need

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To

19:36.620 --> 19:36.800
Open

19:36.800 --> 19:36.980
Up

19:36.980 --> 19:37.180
All

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Of

19:37.300 --> 19:37.460
These

19:37.460 --> 19:38.100
Online

19:38.100 --> 19:38.700
We

19:38.700 --> 19:38.820
Need

19:38.820 --> 19:38.920
To

19:38.920 --> 19:39.080
Open

19:39.080 --> 19:39.580
Online

19:39.580 --> 19:39.920
Trading

19:39.920 --> 19:40.240
Account

19:48.260 --> 19:49.760
Publicly

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Traded

19:50.020 --> 19:50.340
Stock

19:50.340 --> 19:50.500
On

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This

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They

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Have

19:51.160 --> 19:51.360
All

19:51.360 --> 19:51.700
Divided

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It

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All

19:51.980 --> 19:52.280
Up

19:52.280 --> 19:53.080
Oh

19:53.080 --> 19:53.400
Yes

19:53.400 --> 19:53.560
There

19:53.560 --> 19:53.720
Is

19:53.720 --> 19:53.860
We'll

19:53.860 --> 19:53.980
Be

19:53.980 --> 19:54.140
Able

19:54.140 --> 19:54.240
To

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Buy

19:54.480 --> 19:54.660
It

19:54.660 --> 19:55.320
I

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Laughed

19:55.820 --> 19:55.940
When

19:55.940 --> 19:56.060
They

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Fell

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Flat

19:56.460 --> 19:56.600
On

19:56.600 --> 19:56.720
Their

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Face

19:56.980 --> 19:58.080
Yeah

19:58.080 --> 19:58.280
But

19:58.280 --> 19:58.720
God

19:58.720 --> 19:58.820
Do

19:58.820 --> 19:58.860
You

19:58.860 --> 19:59.060
Remember

19:59.060 --> 19:59.260
The

19:59.260 --> 19:59.400
Good

19:59.400 --> 19:59.540
Old

19:59.540 --> 19:59.840
Days

19:59.840 --> 20:00.080
When

20:00.080 --> 20:00.280
You

20:00.280 --> 20:00.640
Come up

20:00.640 --> 20:00.740
With

20:00.740 --> 20:00.900
Any

20:00.900 --> 20:01.320
Crazy

20:01.320 --> 20:01.680
Idea

20:01.680 --> 20:01.920
You

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Say

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20:02.900 --> 20:03.020
Going

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To

20:03.160 --> 20:03.480
Do

20:03.480 --> 20:04.180
Anything

20:04.180 --> 20:04.800
And

20:04.800 --> 20:04.960
Just

20:04.960 --> 20:05.300
As long

20:05.300 --> 20:05.500
As you

20:05.500 --> 20:05.620
Through

20:05.620 --> 20:06.180
Internet

20:06.180 --> 20:06.220
Internet

20:06.220 --> 20:06.560
Internet

20:06.560 --> 20:06.740
In

20:06.740 --> 20:06.880
There

20:06.880 --> 20:07.220
Somewhere

20:07.220 --> 20:07.840
Venture

20:07.840 --> 20:08.440
Capitalist

20:08.440 --> 20:08.620
With

20:08.620 --> 20:08.900
Throw

20:08.900 --> 20:09.160
Money

20:09.160 --> 20:09.420
At

20:09.420 --> 20:09.520
You

20:09.520 --> 20:09.720
Like

20:09.720 --> 20:09.860
There

20:09.860 --> 20:10.000
Was

20:10.000 --> 20:10.140
No

20:10.140 --> 20:10.540
Tomorrow

20:10.540 --> 20:12.220
Remember

20:12.220 --> 20:12.480
Those

20:12.480 --> 20:12.660
Good

20:12.660 --> 20:12.800
Old

20:12.800 --> 20:13.120
Days

20:13.120 --> 20:14.900
No

20:14.900 --> 20:15.060
I

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Don't

20:15.280 --> 20:15.360
I

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Was

20:15.480 --> 20:15.600
In

20:15.600 --> 20:16.060
College

20:16.060 --> 20:17.280
And

20:17.280 --> 20:17.380
I

20:17.380 --> 20:17.520
Was

20:17.520 --> 20:17.620
In

20:17.620 --> 20:17.820
High

20:17.820 --> 20:18.080
School

20:18.080 --> 20:18.480
So

20:18.480 --> 20:22.640
Well

20:22.640 --> 20:23.000
Obviously

20:23.000 --> 20:23.220
The

20:23.220 --> 20:23.440
People

20:23.440 --> 20:23.920
Getting

20:23.920 --> 20:24.080
The

20:24.080 --> 20:24.240
Money

20:24.240 --> 20:24.600
Thrown

20:24.600 --> 20:24.780
At

20:24.780 --> 20:24.900
Them

20:24.900 --> 20:25.060
From

20:25.060 --> 20:25.320
Venture

20:25.320 --> 20:25.760
Capitalists

20:25.760 --> 20:25.880
Were

20:25.880 --> 20:26.100
Not

20:26.100 --> 20:26.440
Us

20:26.440 --> 20:27.220
Yes

20:27.220 --> 20:28.500
But

20:28.500 --> 20:30.320
It's

20:30.320 --> 20:30.520
Nice

20:30.520 --> 20:30.700
To

20:30.700 --> 20:31.300
Fantasize

20:31.300 --> 20:31.560
That

20:31.560 --> 20:32.000
One

20:32.000 --> 20:32.320
Could

20:32.320 --> 20:32.840
Theoretically

20:32.840 --> 20:33.060
Have

20:33.060 --> 20:33.240
Done

20:33.240 --> 20:33.480
Such

20:33.480 --> 20:33.580
A

20:33.580 --> 20:33.800
Thing

20:33.800 --> 20:36.300
A

20:36.300 --> 20:36.600
Long

20:36.600 --> 20:36.900
Long

20:36.900 --> 20:37.200
Time

20:37.200 --> 20:37.540
Ago

20:37.540 --> 20:38.060
Yes

20:38.060 --> 20:38.560
A

20:38.560 --> 20:38.760
Long

20:38.760 --> 20:38.980
Time

20:38.980 --> 20:39.300
Ago

20:39.300 --> 20:39.720
In

20:39.720 --> 20:40.220
Silicon

20:40.220 --> 20:40.580
Valley

20:40.580 --> 20:40.840
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20:40.840 --> 20:41.060
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20:41.060 --> 20:41.320
Away

20:41.320 --> 20:44.760
Then

20:44.760 --> 20:45.000
Everything

20:45.000 --> 20:45.280
Started

20:45.280 --> 20:45.500
Going

20:45.500 --> 20:45.840
South

20:45.840 --> 20:46.020
Like

20:46.020 --> 20:46.160
The

20:46.160 --> 20:46.320
Year

20:46.320 --> 20:46.620
Before

20:46.620 --> 20:46.780
I

20:46.780 --> 20:47.220
Graduated

20:47.220 --> 20:47.360
And

20:47.360 --> 20:47.400
I

20:47.400 --> 20:47.480
Was

20:47.480 --> 20:47.600
Like

20:47.600 --> 20:47.760
What

20:47.760 --> 20:47.960
The

20:47.960 --> 20:48.420
Hell

20:48.420 --> 20:49.280
Yeah

20:49.280 --> 20:49.520
What

20:49.520 --> 20:49.660
Is

20:49.660 --> 20:49.860
This

20:49.860 --> 20:50.100
Shit

20:50.100 --> 20:51.020
I

20:51.020 --> 20:51.240
Know

20:51.240 --> 20:51.700
No

20:51.700 --> 20:52.000
Fun

20:52.000 --> 20:52.220
For

20:52.220 --> 20:52.500
Us

20:52.500 --> 20:52.840
We

20:52.840 --> 20:52.940
Were

20:52.940 --> 20:53.080
Born

20:53.080 --> 20:53.220
A

20:53.220 --> 20:53.360
Couple

20:53.360 --> 20:53.600
Years

20:53.600 --> 20:53.840
Yeah

20:53.840 --> 20:55.000
All

20:55.000 --> 20:55.220
Right

20:55.220 --> 20:55.800
And

20:55.800 --> 20:56.260
Our

20:56.260 --> 20:56.900
Final

20:56.900 --> 20:57.900
Yeah

20:57.900 --> 20:58.100
That's

20:58.100 --> 20:58.200
Our

20:58.200 --> 20:58.380
Final

20:58.380 --> 20:58.660
Email

20:58.660 --> 20:59.280
Is

20:59.280 --> 20:59.680
From

20:59.680 --> 21:01.700
Smarther

21:01.700 --> 21:03.440
I

21:03.440 --> 21:04.640
Always

21:04.640 --> 21:04.940
Trying to

21:04.940 --> 21:05.180
Pronounce

21:05.180 --> 21:05.600
Myself

21:05.600 --> 21:05.800
As

21:05.800 --> 21:06.200
SM

21:06.200 --> 21:06.480
Arthur

21:06.480 --> 21:08.260
Smarther

21:08.260 --> 21:08.440
Or

21:08.440 --> 21:09.000
Smart

21:09.000 --> 21:09.580
Her

21:09.580 --> 21:09.800
Or

21:09.800 --> 21:10.060
Smart

21:10.060 --> 21:10.400
Arthur

21:10.400 --> 21:10.620
Or

21:10.620 --> 21:10.800
Something

21:10.800 --> 21:11.000
Like

21:11.000 --> 21:11.160
That

21:11.160 --> 21:11.540
Anyway

21:11.540 --> 21:12.280
The

21:12.280 --> 21:12.580
Email

21:12.580 --> 21:13.040
Is

21:13.040 --> 21:13.780
Hey

21:13.780 --> 21:14.120
Guys

21:14.120 --> 21:14.540
I

21:14.540 --> 21:14.700
Just

21:14.700 --> 21:14.880
Started

21:14.880 --> 21:15.160
Listening

21:15.160 --> 21:15.360
To

21:15.360 --> 21:15.480
Your

21:15.480 --> 21:15.700
Show

21:15.700 --> 21:15.920
About

21:15.920 --> 21:16.040
A

21:16.040 --> 21:16.200
Month

21:16.200 --> 21:16.420
Ago

21:16.420 --> 21:16.540
And

21:16.540 --> 21:16.700
I've

21:16.700 --> 21:16.800
Been

21:16.800 --> 21:17.100
Finding

21:17.100 --> 21:17.120
Finding

21:17.120 --> 21:17.480
Quite

21:17.480 --> 21:17.920
Enjoyable

21:17.920 --> 21:18.060
And

21:18.060 --> 21:18.520
Informative

21:18.520 --> 21:19.020
I

21:19.020 --> 21:19.140
Have

21:19.140 --> 21:19.220
A

21:19.220 --> 21:19.480
Question

21:19.480 --> 21:19.860
Regarding

21:19.860 --> 21:20.480
Asterisk

21:20.480 --> 21:20.640
Or

21:20.640 --> 21:20.700
I

21:20.700 --> 21:20.860
Guess

21:20.860 --> 21:21.180
VoIP

21:21.180 --> 21:21.340
In

21:21.340 --> 21:21.660
General

21:21.660 --> 21:21.840
And

21:21.840 --> 21:22.220
Domestic

21:22.220 --> 21:22.740
Spying

21:22.740 --> 21:23.280
It

21:23.280 --> 21:23.400
Has

21:23.400 --> 21:23.680
Recently

21:23.680 --> 21:23.920
Come

21:23.920 --> 21:24.000
To

21:24.000 --> 21:24.140
My

21:24.140 --> 21:24.420
Attention

21:24.420 --> 21:24.640
That

21:24.640 --> 21:24.780
The

21:24.780 --> 21:25.040
U.S.

21:25.100 --> 21:25.380
Government

21:25.380 --> 21:25.860
Monitors

21:25.860 --> 21:26.280
Every

21:26.280 --> 21:26.780
International

21:26.780 --> 21:27.120
Phone

21:27.120 --> 21:27.360
Call

21:27.360 --> 21:27.520
And

21:27.520 --> 21:27.980
Randomly

21:27.980 --> 21:28.240
And

21:28.240 --> 21:28.540
Not

21:28.540 --> 21:28.680
So

21:28.680 --> 21:29.040
Randomly

21:29.040 --> 21:29.460
Monitors

21:29.460 --> 21:29.820
Domestic

21:29.820 --> 21:30.100
Phone

21:30.100 --> 21:30.540
Calls

21:30.540 --> 21:31.040
I

21:31.040 --> 21:31.180
Was

21:31.180 --> 21:31.480
Wondering

21:31.480 --> 21:31.660
If

21:31.660 --> 21:31.720
You

21:31.720 --> 21:31.840
Know

21:31.840 --> 21:32.080
Anything

21:32.080 --> 21:32.340
About

21:32.340 --> 21:33.040
Wiretapping

21:33.040 --> 21:33.340
VoIP

21:33.340 --> 21:33.600
Phone

21:33.600 --> 21:34.000
Calls

21:34.000 --> 21:34.840
It

21:34.840 --> 21:35.520
Feasibility

21:35.520 --> 21:35.860
Whether

21:35.860 --> 21:35.960
Or

21:35.960 --> 21:36.200
It's

21:36.200 --> 21:36.400
Being

21:36.400 --> 21:36.720
Done

21:36.720 --> 21:36.920
If

21:36.920 --> 21:37.040
It

21:37.040 --> 21:37.280
Falls

21:37.280 --> 21:37.500
Under

21:37.500 --> 21:37.820
Recent

21:37.820 --> 21:38.200
Admissions

21:38.200 --> 21:38.360
Of

21:38.360 --> 21:38.700
Domestic

21:38.700 --> 21:39.160
Spying

21:39.160 --> 21:40.080
I

21:40.080 --> 21:40.200
Have

21:40.200 --> 21:40.340
Been

21:40.340 --> 21:40.620
Using

21:40.620 --> 21:41.480
Blasterisk

21:41.480 --> 21:41.900
That's

21:41.900 --> 21:42.740
Now

21:42.740 --> 21:42.820
I

21:42.820 --> 21:42.940
Guess

21:42.940 --> 21:43.140
You

21:43.140 --> 21:43.280
Read

21:43.280 --> 21:43.380
The

21:43.380 --> 21:43.560
tiny

21:43.560 --> 21:43.940
url

21:43.940 --> 21:46.620
tinyurl.com

21:46.620 --> 21:47.100
slash

21:47.100 --> 21:48.320
quebec

21:48.320 --> 21:48.920
golf

21:48.920 --> 21:49.500
juliet

21:49.500 --> 21:49.920
juliet

21:49.920 --> 21:50.280
whiskey

21:50.280 --> 21:51.240
a lot

21:51.240 --> 21:51.660
recently

21:51.660 --> 21:52.160
to make

21:52.160 --> 21:52.580
international

21:52.580 --> 21:52.860
phone

21:52.860 --> 21:53.180
calls

21:53.180 --> 21:53.320
and

21:53.320 --> 21:53.420
I

21:53.420 --> 21:53.520
was

21:53.520 --> 21:53.840
just

21:53.840 --> 21:54.120
wondering

21:54.120 --> 21:54.320
about

21:54.320 --> 21:54.520
whether

21:54.520 --> 21:54.820
or not

21:54.820 --> 21:55.040
my

21:55.040 --> 21:55.500
convos

21:55.500 --> 21:55.600
are

21:55.600 --> 21:55.740
being

21:55.740 --> 21:56.000
listened

21:56.000 --> 21:56.240
to

21:56.240 --> 21:56.660
or

21:56.660 --> 21:56.840
how

21:56.840 --> 21:57.140
easy

21:57.140 --> 21:57.420
that

21:57.420 --> 21:57.580
would

21:57.580 --> 21:57.900
be

21:57.900 --> 21:58.100
to

21:58.100 --> 21:58.360
do

21:58.360 --> 21:59.540
keep

21:59.540 --> 21:59.640
up

21:59.640 --> 21:59.760
the

21:59.760 --> 21:59.920
bitch

21:59.920 --> 22:00.020
and

22:00.020 --> 22:00.280
work

22:00.280 --> 22:00.620
your

22:00.620 --> 22:00.980
pal

22:00.980 --> 22:01.380
smarter

22:06.400 --> 22:09.060
I'll

22:09.060 --> 22:09.180
do

22:09.180 --> 22:09.320
the

22:09.320 --> 22:09.580
tapping

22:09.580 --> 22:09.820
thing

22:09.820 --> 22:10.140
first

22:10.140 --> 22:10.260
and

22:10.260 --> 22:10.320
then

22:10.320 --> 22:10.440
we

22:10.440 --> 22:10.920
can

22:10.920 --> 22:11.740
address

22:11.740 --> 22:12.360
Blasterisk

22:12.360 --> 22:14.660
pretty

22:14.660 --> 22:15.120
much

22:15.120 --> 22:16.280
the

22:16.280 --> 22:16.540
deal

22:16.540 --> 22:16.880
is

22:16.880 --> 22:17.180
that

22:17.180 --> 22:17.840
I

22:17.840 --> 22:18.960
guess

22:18.960 --> 22:19.060
it

22:19.060 --> 22:19.440
depends

22:19.440 --> 22:19.820
really

22:19.820 --> 22:20.060
on

22:20.060 --> 22:20.500
where

22:20.500 --> 22:21.300
your

22:21.300 --> 22:21.600
phone

22:21.600 --> 22:22.060
call

22:22.060 --> 22:22.640
interfaces

22:22.640 --> 22:22.860
with

22:22.860 --> 22:23.000
the

22:23.000 --> 22:23.520
PSTN

22:23.520 --> 22:23.700
if

22:23.700 --> 22:23.880
it's

22:23.880 --> 22:24.140
carried

22:24.140 --> 22:24.320
as

22:24.320 --> 22:24.620
IP

22:24.620 --> 22:25.060
traffic

22:25.060 --> 22:25.240
all

22:25.240 --> 22:25.360
the

22:25.360 --> 22:25.540
way

22:25.540 --> 22:25.860
to

22:25.860 --> 22:26.280
the

22:26.280 --> 22:26.540
foreign

22:26.540 --> 22:26.980
country

22:26.980 --> 22:27.640
and

22:27.640 --> 22:28.020
the

22:28.020 --> 22:28.480
international

22:28.480 --> 22:28.880
gateway

22:28.880 --> 22:29.060
is

22:29.060 --> 22:29.160
in

22:29.160 --> 22:29.280
that

22:29.280 --> 22:29.480
foreign

22:29.480 --> 22:29.820
country

22:29.820 --> 22:30.080
there's

22:30.080 --> 22:30.660
absolutely

22:30.660 --> 22:32.660
almost

22:32.660 --> 22:33.300
zero

22:33.300 --> 22:33.860
chance

22:33.860 --> 22:34.040
I'm

22:34.040 --> 22:34.180
not

22:34.180 --> 22:34.300
going

22:34.300 --> 22:34.380
to

22:34.380 --> 22:34.520
say

22:34.520 --> 22:34.860
completely

22:34.860 --> 22:35.160
zero

22:35.160 --> 22:35.460
chance

22:35.460 --> 22:36.100
I'm

22:36.100 --> 22:36.340
wrong

22:36.340 --> 22:36.760
but

22:36.760 --> 22:37.800
it's

22:37.800 --> 22:39.040
pretty

22:39.040 --> 22:39.520
small

22:39.520 --> 22:39.800
I would

22:39.800 --> 22:40.140
imagine

22:40.140 --> 22:40.340
like

22:40.340 --> 22:42.340
.0000001%

22:42.340 --> 22:42.800
chance

22:42.800 --> 22:43.640
that your

22:43.640 --> 22:44.420
phone call

22:44.420 --> 22:44.680
is going

22:44.680 --> 22:44.860
to be

22:44.860 --> 22:45.260
monitored

22:45.260 --> 22:46.400
if

22:46.400 --> 22:46.600
the

22:46.600 --> 22:48.360
gateway

22:48.360 --> 22:48.760
between

22:48.760 --> 22:48.960
the

22:48.960 --> 22:49.180
VoIP

22:49.180 --> 22:49.560
service

22:49.560 --> 22:49.760
and

22:49.760 --> 22:49.860
the

22:49.860 --> 22:50.360
PSTN

22:50.360 --> 22:50.500
is

22:50.500 --> 22:50.680
here

22:50.680 --> 22:50.780
in

22:50.780 --> 22:50.900
the

22:50.900 --> 22:51.160
US

22:51.160 --> 22:51.520
like

22:51.520 --> 22:51.680
say

22:51.680 --> 22:51.760
you

22:51.760 --> 22:51.880
hit

22:51.880 --> 22:52.000
a

22:52.000 --> 22:52.440
PRI

22:52.440 --> 22:52.900
in

22:52.900 --> 22:54.180
San

22:54.180 --> 22:54.520
Jose

22:54.520 --> 22:55.000
or

22:55.000 --> 22:55.300
Michigan

22:55.300 --> 22:55.800
or

22:55.800 --> 22:56.340
Florida

22:56.340 --> 22:56.520
or

22:56.520 --> 22:56.780
something

22:56.780 --> 22:57.540
and

22:57.540 --> 22:57.840
it

22:57.840 --> 22:58.060
heads

22:58.060 --> 22:58.240
out

22:58.240 --> 22:58.400
the

22:58.400 --> 22:58.760
typical

22:58.760 --> 22:59.260
standard

22:59.260 --> 22:59.740
AT&T

22:59.740 --> 23:00.180
international

23:00.180 --> 23:00.600
gateway

23:00.600 --> 23:01.420
then

23:01.420 --> 23:01.740
it's

23:01.740 --> 23:02.220
likely

23:02.220 --> 23:02.620
subject

23:02.620 --> 23:02.900
to

23:02.900 --> 23:03.040
the

23:03.040 --> 23:03.480
same

23:03.480 --> 23:04.860
wiretapping

23:04.860 --> 23:05.040
as

23:05.040 --> 23:05.760
all the

23:05.760 --> 23:05.960
other

23:05.960 --> 23:06.360
international

23:06.360 --> 23:06.600
phone

23:06.600 --> 23:06.880
calls

23:06.880 --> 23:07.100
are

23:07.100 --> 23:09.460
but

23:09.460 --> 23:09.880
I mean

23:09.880 --> 23:10.740
really

23:10.740 --> 23:11.160
if

23:11.160 --> 23:11.680
you've

23:11.680 --> 23:11.920
got

23:11.920 --> 23:12.440
nothing

23:12.440 --> 23:12.840
to

23:12.840 --> 23:13.380
hide

23:13.380 --> 23:15.420
oh

23:15.420 --> 23:15.620
don't

23:15.620 --> 23:15.800
say

23:15.800 --> 23:15.980
that

23:15.980 --> 23:16.240
because

23:16.240 --> 23:16.460
everyone

23:16.460 --> 23:16.560
will

23:16.560 --> 23:16.660
be

23:16.660 --> 23:16.880
like

23:16.880 --> 23:17.180
oh

23:17.180 --> 23:18.700
yeah

23:18.700 --> 23:18.960
it's

23:18.960 --> 23:19.240
just a

23:19.240 --> 23:19.500
cop

23:19.500 --> 23:19.840
out

23:19.840 --> 23:20.380
yeah

23:20.380 --> 23:20.560
it's

23:20.560 --> 23:20.800
just a

23:20.800 --> 23:21.020
cop

23:21.020 --> 23:21.180
out

23:21.180 --> 23:21.480
but

23:21.480 --> 23:21.860
still

23:21.860 --> 23:22.020
I

23:22.020 --> 23:22.240
mean

23:22.240 --> 23:23.760
be

23:23.760 --> 23:24.040
smart

23:24.040 --> 23:24.280
about

23:24.280 --> 23:24.440
it

23:24.440 --> 23:24.580
if

23:24.580 --> 23:24.720
you're

23:24.720 --> 23:24.860
going

23:24.860 --> 23:24.960
to

23:24.960 --> 23:25.240
talk

23:25.240 --> 23:25.420
on

23:25.420 --> 23:25.860
international

23:25.860 --> 23:26.300
calls

23:26.300 --> 23:26.660
don't

23:26.660 --> 23:27.020
don't

23:27.020 --> 23:27.420
say

23:27.420 --> 23:28.240
stupid

23:28.240 --> 23:28.860
things

23:28.860 --> 23:30.440
well

23:30.440 --> 23:30.760
really

23:30.760 --> 23:30.920
I

23:30.920 --> 23:31.120
mean

23:31.120 --> 23:31.680
this

23:31.680 --> 23:32.300
whole

23:32.300 --> 23:35.420
don't

23:35.420 --> 23:35.940
let your

23:35.940 --> 23:36.520
paranoia

23:36.520 --> 23:37.120
consume you

23:37.120 --> 23:37.440
yeah

23:37.440 --> 23:38.580
yes

23:38.580 --> 23:40.120
of course

23:40.120 --> 23:40.300
this

23:40.300 --> 23:40.920
blaster

23:40.920 --> 23:41.380
thing

23:41.380 --> 23:41.740
is sort

23:41.740 --> 23:42.040
of run

23:42.040 --> 23:42.300
by

23:42.300 --> 23:42.640
indie

23:42.640 --> 23:43.000
media

23:43.000 --> 23:43.320
and they

23:43.320 --> 23:43.940
seem to

23:43.940 --> 23:44.260
be having

23:44.260 --> 23:44.860
their tinfoil

23:44.860 --> 23:45.260
hats on

23:45.260 --> 23:45.740
overdrive

23:45.740 --> 23:52.840
99.9%

23:52.840 --> 23:53.360
of you

23:53.360 --> 23:53.880
are not

23:53.880 --> 23:54.460
going to get

23:54.460 --> 23:54.780
tapped

23:54.780 --> 23:57.400
the .00001%

23:57.400 --> 23:57.860
of you

23:57.860 --> 23:58.620
who are

23:58.620 --> 23:59.040
calling

23:59.040 --> 23:59.500
you know

23:59.500 --> 24:00.300
mobile

24:00.300 --> 24:01.040
phones

24:01.040 --> 24:01.320
in

24:01.320 --> 24:02.060
Afghanistan

24:02.060 --> 24:03.660
they might

24:03.660 --> 24:04.420
be interested

24:04.420 --> 24:04.940
in that

24:04.940 --> 24:06.020
and rightly

24:06.020 --> 24:06.320
so

24:06.320 --> 24:06.520
because

24:06.520 --> 24:07.040
who are

24:07.040 --> 24:07.420
they really

24:07.420 --> 24:07.960
interested

24:07.960 --> 24:08.500
in tapping

24:08.500 --> 24:08.820
are they

24:08.820 --> 24:09.220
interested

24:09.220 --> 24:09.700
in tapping

24:09.700 --> 24:10.020
you

24:10.020 --> 24:10.360
or are they

24:10.360 --> 24:10.760
interested

24:10.760 --> 24:11.240
in tapping

24:11.240 --> 24:11.700
the person

24:11.700 --> 24:11.920
you're

24:11.920 --> 24:12.360
calling

24:12.360 --> 24:14.280
so

24:14.280 --> 24:14.980
I mean

24:14.980 --> 24:15.360
this whole

24:15.360 --> 24:15.720
domestic

24:15.720 --> 24:16.100
spying

24:16.100 --> 24:16.300
thing

24:16.300 --> 24:16.560
is really

24:16.560 --> 24:16.900
just getting

24:16.900 --> 24:17.280
thrown out

24:17.280 --> 24:17.720
of proportion

24:17.720 --> 24:18.700
I mean

24:18.700 --> 24:19.400
it's

24:19.400 --> 24:19.960
more of a

24:19.960 --> 24:20.360
question

24:20.360 --> 24:21.020
of

24:21.020 --> 24:22.800
no one

24:22.800 --> 24:23.200
knows

24:23.200 --> 24:23.480
what the

24:23.480 --> 24:23.720
hell is

24:23.720 --> 24:24.100
going on

24:24.100 --> 24:24.340
at this

24:24.340 --> 24:24.600
point

24:24.600 --> 24:25.040
basically

24:25.040 --> 24:25.320
it's

24:25.320 --> 24:25.600
become

24:25.600 --> 24:26.100
you know

24:26.100 --> 24:26.740
it was

24:26.740 --> 24:28.240
one article

24:28.240 --> 24:28.800
in the

24:28.800 --> 24:29.080
New York

24:29.080 --> 24:29.560
Times

24:29.560 --> 24:30.720
and then

24:30.720 --> 24:31.220
people said

24:31.220 --> 24:31.440
okay

24:31.440 --> 24:31.700
yeah

24:31.700 --> 24:31.960
we might

24:31.960 --> 24:32.240
be doing

24:32.240 --> 24:32.480
this

24:32.480 --> 24:32.860
and it

24:32.860 --> 24:33.060
just

24:33.060 --> 24:33.360
no one

24:33.360 --> 24:34.080
everyone

24:34.080 --> 24:34.400
is just

24:34.400 --> 24:34.680
sort of

24:34.680 --> 24:35.060
saying

24:35.060 --> 24:36.760
making up

24:36.760 --> 24:37.000
as it

24:37.000 --> 24:37.620
goes along

24:37.620 --> 24:39.380
no one

24:39.380 --> 24:39.920
has any

24:39.920 --> 24:40.300
evidence

24:40.300 --> 24:40.520
yet

24:40.520 --> 24:40.800
that's

24:40.800 --> 24:40.920
the

24:40.920 --> 24:41.280
problem

24:41.280 --> 24:41.620
and

24:41.620 --> 24:42.780
until

24:42.780 --> 24:43.060
then

24:43.060 --> 24:43.240
just

24:43.240 --> 24:43.500
everyone

24:43.500 --> 24:43.640
is

24:43.640 --> 24:43.820
going

24:43.820 --> 24:45.140
oh

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and just

24:45.980 --> 24:46.260
you know

24:46.260 --> 24:46.660
running around

24:46.660 --> 24:47.000
screaming

24:47.000 --> 24:48.780
holy crap

24:48.780 --> 24:49.720
I'm buying

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stock

24:50.120 --> 24:50.360
anyway

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this is

24:50.780 --> 24:51.100
bordering

24:51.100 --> 24:51.680
on politics

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and we won't

24:52.040 --> 24:52.460
talk about

24:52.460 --> 24:52.700
this

24:52.700 --> 24:53.680
I'm buying

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my stock

24:54.180 --> 24:54.400
in the

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Reynolds

24:54.640 --> 24:55.080
tinfoil

24:55.080 --> 24:55.460
company

24:55.460 --> 24:57.180
exactly

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remember to

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have it

24:59.400 --> 24:59.900
shiny side

24:59.900 --> 25:00.160
out

25:00.160 --> 25:00.900
because you

25:00.900 --> 25:01.200
don't want

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the stuff

25:01.500 --> 25:02.340
reflecting in

25:02.340 --> 25:03.320
no no no

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I was reading

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yeah well

25:06.140 --> 25:07.080
didn't actually

25:07.080 --> 25:07.820
someone do a test

25:07.820 --> 25:08.580
on this online

25:08.580 --> 25:09.000
and like

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they proved

25:09.680 --> 25:10.780
that if

25:10.780 --> 25:12.640
you wore a tinfoil hat

25:12.640 --> 25:13.040
it actually

25:13.040 --> 25:14.100
amplified the

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radio signal

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setting into your brain

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yes I think

25:17.380 --> 25:17.760
I recall

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reading something

25:18.280 --> 25:18.620
like that

25:18.620 --> 25:18.940
because it's

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like a

25:19.180 --> 25:19.560
parabolic

25:19.560 --> 25:19.840
dish

25:19.840 --> 25:20.360
that focuses

25:20.360 --> 25:20.800
on your

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brain

25:21.120 --> 25:22.740
exactly

25:22.740 --> 25:23.260
yeah

25:23.260 --> 25:25.440
so

25:25.440 --> 25:26.320
did you

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play around

25:26.860 --> 25:27.480
and did you

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look at this

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blasterisk

25:28.640 --> 25:29.960
me

25:29.960 --> 25:31.340
yeah

25:31.340 --> 25:32.220
no I haven't

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played around

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with it yet

25:32.980 --> 25:33.340
actually

25:33.340 --> 25:33.660
I've been

25:33.660 --> 25:34.140
busy with

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my

25:34.920 --> 25:35.360
interesting

25:35.360 --> 25:35.760
yeah

25:35.760 --> 25:36.400
I've been

25:36.400 --> 25:36.800
busy with

25:36.800 --> 25:37.060
my

25:37.060 --> 25:37.860
fun project

25:37.860 --> 25:38.140
which we'll

25:38.140 --> 25:38.460
get into

25:38.460 --> 25:38.800
in a minute

25:38.800 --> 25:40.020
yes

25:40.020 --> 25:41.200
it's

25:41.200 --> 25:41.840
interesting

25:41.840 --> 25:45.660
I'm not

25:45.660 --> 25:46.080
I mean

25:46.080 --> 25:46.400
I played

25:46.400 --> 25:46.620
with it

25:46.620 --> 25:46.880
for only

25:46.880 --> 25:47.280
like 30

25:47.280 --> 25:47.580
seconds

25:47.580 --> 25:47.920
today

25:47.920 --> 25:48.720
and

25:48.720 --> 25:49.000
it

25:49.000 --> 25:50.580
seems to

25:50.580 --> 25:50.860
be like

25:50.860 --> 25:51.040
some

25:51.040 --> 25:51.380
sort of

25:51.380 --> 25:51.820
free world

25:51.820 --> 25:52.280
dial-up

25:52.280 --> 25:52.620
clone

25:52.620 --> 25:53.920
but not

25:53.920 --> 25:54.300
really

25:54.300 --> 25:54.720
I mean

25:54.720 --> 25:55.140
it seems

25:55.140 --> 25:55.640
to be

25:55.640 --> 25:57.000
I don't

25:57.000 --> 25:57.080
know

25:57.080 --> 25:57.300
I guess

25:57.300 --> 25:57.480
you could

25:57.480 --> 25:57.660
really

25:57.660 --> 25:58.020
just call

25:58.020 --> 25:58.120
it

25:58.120 --> 25:58.400
more like

25:58.400 --> 25:59.040
a clone

25:59.040 --> 25:59.180
of

25:59.180 --> 25:59.720
Telefreak

25:59.720 --> 26:00.480
and like

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you call

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into this

26:01.480 --> 26:01.740
number

26:01.740 --> 26:02.000
and you

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get routed

26:02.500 --> 26:02.820
and they

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have like

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numbers

26:03.440 --> 26:03.860
all over

26:03.860 --> 26:04.160
the place

26:04.160 --> 26:04.340
like

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international

26:04.860 --> 26:05.140
like

26:05.140 --> 26:06.540
they have

26:06.540 --> 26:06.720
stuff

26:06.720 --> 26:07.080
in like

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Boston

26:07.880 --> 26:09.800
Fort Worth

26:09.800 --> 26:10.520
Texas

26:10.520 --> 26:12.540
like

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two or

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three other

26:13.160 --> 26:13.700
stateside

26:13.700 --> 26:14.180
locations

26:14.180 --> 26:15.640
and they

26:15.640 --> 26:16.020
have like

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stuff

26:16.300 --> 26:16.960
all over

26:16.960 --> 26:17.420
the UK

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and

26:18.280 --> 26:19.600
all over

26:19.600 --> 26:19.920
Europe

26:19.920 --> 26:20.200
too

26:20.200 --> 26:20.640
it's

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pretty

26:20.860 --> 26:21.320
interesting

26:21.320 --> 26:22.500
and

26:22.500 --> 26:23.000
you hit

26:23.000 --> 26:23.180
this

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menu

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and you

26:23.880 --> 26:24.000
can

26:24.000 --> 26:24.960
dial out

26:24.960 --> 26:25.480
international

26:25.480 --> 26:26.160
for free

26:26.160 --> 26:26.900
which was

26:26.900 --> 26:27.280
absolutely

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amazing

26:27.660 --> 26:28.600
of course

26:28.600 --> 26:29.060
I didn't

26:29.060 --> 26:29.380
actually

26:29.380 --> 26:30.140
wasn't

26:30.140 --> 26:30.680
not able

26:30.680 --> 26:31.280
to actually

26:31.280 --> 26:31.780
dial out

26:31.780 --> 26:31.940
in the

26:31.940 --> 26:32.380
first place

26:32.380 --> 26:32.760
because I

26:32.760 --> 26:33.060
kept on

26:33.060 --> 26:33.360
getting an

26:33.360 --> 26:33.820
error message

26:33.820 --> 26:34.740
that's how

26:34.740 --> 26:34.900
I was

26:34.900 --> 26:35.220
trying to

26:35.220 --> 26:35.600
test our

26:35.600 --> 26:36.160
UK number

26:36.160 --> 26:36.440
but

26:36.440 --> 26:37.500
feeling

26:37.500 --> 26:37.800
miserable

26:37.800 --> 26:38.220
on that

26:38.220 --> 26:38.680
it was

26:38.680 --> 26:38.940
definitely

26:38.940 --> 26:39.520
their service

26:39.520 --> 26:39.880
it wasn't

26:39.880 --> 26:40.200
actually

26:40.200 --> 26:40.720
the UK

26:40.720 --> 26:41.020
number

26:41.020 --> 26:41.380
failing

26:41.380 --> 26:43.640
so

26:43.640 --> 26:45.820
if you

26:45.820 --> 26:46.340
read it

26:46.340 --> 26:49.460
they said

26:49.460 --> 26:50.660
oh you

26:50.660 --> 26:50.920
can do

26:50.920 --> 26:51.120
this

26:51.120 --> 26:51.300
you can

26:51.300 --> 26:51.400
do

26:51.400 --> 26:51.860
extensions

26:51.860 --> 26:52.380
you can

26:52.380 --> 26:52.560
do

26:52.560 --> 26:53.300
voicemail

26:53.300 --> 26:54.100
and you

26:54.100 --> 26:54.780
can control

26:54.780 --> 26:55.400
Steve's

26:55.400 --> 26:55.820
computer

26:55.820 --> 26:56.280
if you

26:56.280 --> 26:56.660
know the

26:56.660 --> 26:57.000
proper

26:57.000 --> 26:57.580
tones

26:57.580 --> 26:57.960
and I'm

26:57.960 --> 26:58.360
just like

26:58.360 --> 26:59.180
okay

26:59.180 --> 26:59.860
I didn't

26:59.860 --> 27:00.440
actually play

27:00.440 --> 27:00.780
with that

27:00.780 --> 27:01.280
part yet

27:01.280 --> 27:01.540
but

27:01.540 --> 27:04.020
it's

27:04.020 --> 27:04.520
interesting

27:04.520 --> 27:05.080
you should

27:05.080 --> 27:05.520
look into

27:05.520 --> 27:05.840
this

27:05.840 --> 27:06.780
if you're

27:06.780 --> 27:07.120
interested

27:07.120 --> 27:07.380
in the

27:07.380 --> 27:07.640
phones

27:07.640 --> 27:09.020
it seems

27:09.020 --> 27:09.480
to be

27:09.480 --> 27:10.220
at least

27:10.220 --> 27:10.820
an

27:10.820 --> 27:12.060
interesting

27:12.060 --> 27:12.660
way of

27:12.660 --> 27:13.220
dialing

27:13.220 --> 27:13.580
outside

27:13.580 --> 27:14.140
the country

27:14.140 --> 27:14.640
and making

27:14.640 --> 27:15.120
free phone

27:15.120 --> 27:15.420
calls

27:15.420 --> 27:16.100
if nothing

27:16.100 --> 27:16.420
else

27:16.420 --> 27:17.180
I just ran

27:17.180 --> 27:17.560
to the kitchen

27:17.560 --> 27:18.020
and got my

27:18.020 --> 27:18.300
roll of

27:18.300 --> 27:18.960
aluminum foil

27:18.960 --> 27:20.820
woohoo

27:20.820 --> 27:21.840
yeah I'm

27:21.840 --> 27:22.380
putting my

27:22.380 --> 27:23.060
tinfoil hat

27:23.060 --> 27:23.720
on now

27:23.720 --> 27:26.960
well that's

27:26.960 --> 27:27.380
good and

27:27.380 --> 27:27.760
you're going to

27:27.760 --> 27:28.280
save yourself

27:28.280 --> 27:30.460
from 802.11b

27:30.460 --> 27:30.820
transmission

27:30.820 --> 27:31.780
oh my god

27:31.780 --> 27:32.420
brain frying

27:32.420 --> 27:39.040
all right

27:39.040 --> 27:40.360
you seem to

27:40.360 --> 27:40.740
be very

27:40.740 --> 27:41.080
quiet

27:41.080 --> 27:41.380
you do

27:41.380 --> 27:41.660
know you

27:41.660 --> 27:41.940
can like

27:41.940 --> 27:42.300
speak up

27:42.300 --> 27:42.540
at any

27:42.540 --> 27:42.760
time

27:42.760 --> 27:42.960
during

27:42.960 --> 27:43.220
those

27:43.220 --> 27:46.020
welcome

27:46.020 --> 27:46.660
to

27:46.660 --> 27:47.140
bin rev

27:47.140 --> 27:47.780
land of

27:47.780 --> 27:48.360
madness

27:48.360 --> 27:49.120
and tinfoil

27:49.120 --> 27:49.720
and good

27:49.720 --> 27:49.980
beer

27:49.980 --> 27:51.700
indeed

27:51.700 --> 27:52.620
oh and

27:52.620 --> 27:53.080
shitty beer

27:53.080 --> 27:53.480
as it might

27:53.480 --> 27:54.220
have it

27:54.220 --> 27:54.920
yeah and

27:54.920 --> 27:55.240
shitty beer

27:55.240 --> 27:55.520
too

27:55.520 --> 27:57.320
but I guess

27:57.320 --> 27:57.700
shitty beer

27:57.700 --> 27:57.980
is better

27:57.980 --> 27:58.500
than no beer

27:58.500 --> 28:00.000
indeed

28:00.000 --> 28:00.800
I'm going to

28:00.800 --> 28:01.160
see a lot

28:01.160 --> 28:01.680
of shitty beer

28:01.680 --> 28:02.160
this evening

28:02.160 --> 28:05.380
woohoo

28:05.380 --> 28:08.080
just to put

28:08.080 --> 28:08.480
it out here

28:08.480 --> 28:10.040
888-9-BINREV

28:10.040 --> 28:10.300
is our

28:10.300 --> 28:10.760
call-in number

28:10.760 --> 28:11.800
tonight

28:11.800 --> 28:13.640
but you

28:13.640 --> 28:13.800
have

28:13.800 --> 28:14.320
Zygman

28:14.320 --> 28:14.760
is standing

28:14.760 --> 28:15.300
by screening

28:15.300 --> 28:15.660
your phone

28:15.660 --> 28:15.960
calls

28:15.960 --> 28:20.380
so useless

28:20.380 --> 28:21.480
since you

28:21.480 --> 28:21.980
haven't talked

28:21.980 --> 28:22.260
we're going to

28:22.260 --> 28:22.700
make you go

28:22.700 --> 28:23.180
first

28:23.180 --> 28:26.060
personal hacking

28:26.060 --> 28:26.440
stories

28:26.440 --> 28:26.820
what have you

28:26.820 --> 28:27.760
been working

28:27.760 --> 28:28.300
on lately

28:28.300 --> 28:28.680
have you been

28:28.680 --> 28:29.140
messing around

28:29.140 --> 28:29.580
with anything

28:29.580 --> 28:33.700
that's a

28:33.700 --> 28:34.980
kind of a

28:34.980 --> 28:35.420
toughie

28:35.420 --> 28:36.940
yes

28:36.940 --> 28:37.940
how much

28:37.940 --> 28:38.640
I'm allowed

28:38.640 --> 28:39.000
to talk

28:39.000 --> 28:39.200
about

28:39.200 --> 28:39.540
I don't

28:39.540 --> 28:39.800
do

28:39.800 --> 28:40.440
I actually

28:40.440 --> 28:41.060
I work

28:41.060 --> 28:41.460
on medical

28:41.460 --> 28:41.820
equipment

28:41.820 --> 28:42.400
for a living

28:42.400 --> 28:43.740
which is

28:43.740 --> 28:44.280
an interesting

28:44.280 --> 28:44.840
profession

28:44.840 --> 28:45.300
for a

28:45.300 --> 28:45.520
gentleman

28:45.520 --> 28:46.380
like myself

28:46.380 --> 28:50.160
let's see

28:50.160 --> 28:51.900
not a lot

28:51.900 --> 28:52.880
regarding that

28:52.880 --> 28:53.380
that would be

28:53.380 --> 28:54.060
of any interest

28:54.060 --> 28:55.400
mostly my

28:55.400 --> 28:55.740
topic

28:55.740 --> 28:56.400
that's pretty

28:56.400 --> 28:56.860
much it

28:56.860 --> 28:59.100
so you've

28:59.100 --> 28:59.360
been messing

28:59.360 --> 28:59.700
around with

28:59.700 --> 29:00.660
our topic

29:00.660 --> 29:01.280
tonight is

29:01.280 --> 29:02.180
hacking your

29:02.180 --> 29:02.620
TiVo

29:02.620 --> 29:05.380
so that's

29:05.380 --> 29:05.940
what useless

29:05.940 --> 29:06.360
was talking

29:06.360 --> 29:06.620
about

29:06.620 --> 29:08.600
so we'll

29:08.600 --> 29:09.060
get into that

29:09.060 --> 29:09.320
later

29:09.320 --> 29:09.700
and I

29:09.700 --> 29:11.500
you better

29:11.500 --> 29:11.920
like kick

29:11.920 --> 29:12.320
back and

29:12.320 --> 29:12.820
like recline

29:12.820 --> 29:13.220
in your chair

29:13.220 --> 29:13.680
for this one

29:13.680 --> 29:14.720
Strom what have

29:14.720 --> 29:15.160
you been up

29:15.160 --> 29:15.700
to lately

29:15.700 --> 29:17.260
oh boy

29:17.260 --> 29:17.940
this is a

29:17.940 --> 29:18.440
fun one

29:18.440 --> 29:19.780
well here's

29:19.780 --> 29:20.260
your first

29:20.260 --> 29:20.480
hint

29:20.480 --> 29:20.920
if you go

29:20.920 --> 29:21.440
to security

29:21.440 --> 29:22.560
focus.com

29:22.560 --> 29:24.500
it was the

29:24.500 --> 29:25.040
top story

29:25.040 --> 29:25.600
earlier this

29:25.600 --> 29:25.860
evening

29:25.860 --> 29:26.380
let me pull

29:26.380 --> 29:26.820
it up here

29:26.820 --> 29:27.160
and take

29:27.160 --> 29:27.580
a look

29:27.580 --> 29:30.160
yeah it's

29:30.160 --> 29:30.480
still the

29:30.480 --> 29:31.080
top story

29:31.080 --> 29:32.200
report

29:32.200 --> 29:33.300
express pay

29:33.300 --> 29:34.300
can be

29:34.300 --> 29:34.620
exploited

29:34.620 --> 29:35.240
for cash

29:35.240 --> 29:36.640
I will

29:36.640 --> 29:37.300
I'll read

29:37.300 --> 29:37.540
you the

29:37.540 --> 29:38.180
news report

29:38.180 --> 29:39.860
a vulnerability

29:39.860 --> 29:40.720
in the FedEx

29:40.720 --> 29:41.160
Kinko's

29:41.160 --> 29:41.740
express pay

29:41.740 --> 29:42.400
system allows

29:42.400 --> 29:42.880
an attacker

29:42.880 --> 29:43.420
to receive

29:43.420 --> 29:44.120
free services

29:44.120 --> 29:44.480
or even

29:44.480 --> 29:45.080
cash from

29:45.080 --> 29:45.560
the stores

29:45.560 --> 29:46.100
according to

29:46.100 --> 29:46.560
a post on

29:46.560 --> 29:47.160
full disclosure

29:47.160 --> 29:47.680
yesterday

29:47.680 --> 29:49.240
the express pay

29:49.240 --> 29:49.780
system uses

29:49.780 --> 29:50.180
a Siemens

29:50.180 --> 29:50.700
Infineon

29:50.700 --> 29:51.780
SLE4442

29:51.780 --> 29:52.380
smart card

29:52.380 --> 29:52.680
to store

29:52.680 --> 29:53.900
their pre-purchased

29:53.900 --> 29:54.300
value

29:54.300 --> 29:54.980
and a

29:54.980 --> 29:55.360
three byte

29:55.360 --> 29:56.040
security code

29:56.040 --> 29:56.740
prevents rewriting

29:56.740 --> 29:57.320
of the card's

29:57.320 --> 29:57.540
data

29:57.540 --> 29:58.420
the method

29:58.420 --> 29:59.000
described for

29:59.000 --> 29:59.520
obtaining the

29:59.520 --> 30:00.100
security code

30:00.100 --> 30:00.680
involves using

30:00.680 --> 30:01.660
a logic analyzer

30:01.660 --> 30:02.080
at a point

30:02.080 --> 30:02.520
where the card

30:02.520 --> 30:03.120
is written to

30:03.120 --> 30:04.080
and it is reported

30:04.080 --> 30:04.620
that this code

30:04.620 --> 30:05.020
is the same

30:05.020 --> 30:05.780
across all cards

30:05.780 --> 30:06.420
in circulation

30:06.420 --> 30:07.620
the various

30:07.620 --> 30:08.180
byte ranges

30:08.180 --> 30:08.680
are described

30:08.680 --> 30:09.240
in the posting

30:09.240 --> 30:09.780
however the

30:09.780 --> 30:10.400
crucial point

30:10.400 --> 30:10.960
allowing this

30:10.960 --> 30:11.560
to be an issue

30:11.560 --> 30:12.040
in the first

30:12.040 --> 30:12.540
place is that

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the express pay

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system completely

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trusts the value

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reported by the

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card and does not

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require the database

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to confirm this

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value

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serial numbers

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on the card

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for store location

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may be changed

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to any value

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without consequence

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as well

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allowing for

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straightforward

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cloning of the

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cards once

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produced

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the report

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was sent to

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that

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was by the

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researcher

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on february

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19th

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however no

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reply has been

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received at this

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point

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so the

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researcher is me

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wow how

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responsible

30:35.080 --> 30:35.840
of this

30:35.840 --> 30:36.340
researcher

30:36.340 --> 30:37.320
who is this

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researcher

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this researcher

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would be the

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one and only

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strom carlson

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unless some

30:40.960 --> 30:41.620
other strom carlson

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i don't know

30:42.280 --> 30:42.560
about

30:42.560 --> 30:45.620
just ace

30:45.620 --> 30:46.220
john carlson

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didn't you know

30:46.580 --> 30:47.000
you have a six

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max

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yes yes yes

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i do

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thank you

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zafod

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yeah

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so so

30:53.380 --> 30:56.800
please tell us

30:56.800 --> 30:57.320
what exactly

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you know just

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if you want to

30:58.680 --> 30:59.080
give us a nice

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little you know

30:59.920 --> 31:01.060
5,000 foot view

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of what has

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happened

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you mean you

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mentioned this

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on an earlier

31:03.640 --> 31:04.640
episode of you

31:04.640 --> 31:05.020
were messing

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around with

31:05.420 --> 31:05.840
smart cards

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but well

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pretty much

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you know the

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the FedEx can

31:09.720 --> 31:10.460
go smart cards

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like like the

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report says

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are

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what are they

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they're protected

31:15.000 --> 31:15.400
by a three

31:15.400 --> 31:15.900
byte security

31:15.900 --> 31:16.840
code that

31:16.840 --> 31:17.200
prevents you

31:17.200 --> 31:17.640
from rewriting

31:17.640 --> 31:17.920
them

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so pretty

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much any

31:19.960 --> 31:20.340
schmuck with

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a logic

31:20.680 --> 31:21.680
analyzer and

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knowledge of

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how the

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protocol works

31:23.260 --> 31:24.000
can pick

31:24.000 --> 31:24.460
the security

31:24.460 --> 31:24.880
code out of

31:24.880 --> 31:25.120
the data

31:25.120 --> 31:26.120
stream and

31:26.120 --> 31:26.540
then rewrite

31:26.540 --> 31:27.020
the cards

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so the

31:28.660 --> 31:29.360
story is posted

31:29.360 --> 31:29.940
on dig as

31:29.940 --> 31:30.480
well and if

31:30.480 --> 31:31.000
you go there

31:31.000 --> 31:31.480
there's a

31:31.480 --> 31:31.820
there's a

31:31.820 --> 31:32.520
photo i took

31:32.520 --> 31:33.820
the maximum

31:33.820 --> 31:34.640
value you can

31:34.640 --> 31:35.260
put on a

31:35.260 --> 31:36.380
card with a

31:36.380 --> 31:36.720
real life

31:36.720 --> 31:37.340
situation is

31:37.340 --> 31:37.960
100 bucks

31:37.960 --> 31:40.440
and so i

31:40.440 --> 31:41.620
i should

31:41.620 --> 31:42.280
mention before

31:42.280 --> 31:42.700
i get too

31:42.700 --> 31:42.980
deep into

31:42.980 --> 31:43.320
this that i

31:43.320 --> 31:43.760
was commissioned

31:43.760 --> 31:44.200
by secure

31:44.200 --> 31:44.920
science corporation

31:44.920 --> 31:45.360
to do this

31:45.360 --> 31:46.920
research but

31:46.920 --> 31:47.820
um anyway

31:47.820 --> 31:50.000
yeah go lance

31:50.000 --> 31:50.620
james if you

31:50.620 --> 31:51.000
haven't listened

31:51.000 --> 31:51.560
to our lance

31:51.560 --> 31:52.180
james fishing

31:52.180 --> 31:52.880
episode go

31:52.880 --> 31:53.400
download that

31:53.400 --> 31:53.840
and listen to

31:53.840 --> 31:54.280
it he's

31:54.280 --> 31:54.800
awesome so

31:54.800 --> 31:56.560
his company

31:56.560 --> 31:57.100
commissioned me

31:57.100 --> 31:57.500
to do this

31:57.500 --> 31:58.820
research and

31:58.820 --> 31:59.400
uh anyway

31:59.400 --> 32:01.220
um i have a

32:01.220 --> 32:02.040
photograph of a

32:02.040 --> 32:02.700
card i modified

32:02.700 --> 32:03.660
in the in the

32:03.660 --> 32:05.180
kiosk and the

32:05.180 --> 32:05.820
kiosk says

32:05.820 --> 32:06.900
maximum balance

32:06.900 --> 32:07.300
reached

32:07.300 --> 32:09.240
313 dollars

32:09.240 --> 32:10.500
and 37 cents

32:10.500 --> 32:13.640
what what made

32:13.640 --> 32:14.280
you choose that

32:14.280 --> 32:16.180
number uh i

32:16.180 --> 32:16.740
thought it would

32:16.740 --> 32:17.920
be very elite to

32:17.920 --> 32:19.420
to choose 313.37

32:19.420 --> 32:20.960
but um well i

32:20.960 --> 32:21.980
know maybe maybe

32:21.980 --> 32:22.640
just randomness

32:22.640 --> 32:26.140
no i i figured if

32:26.140 --> 32:26.760
if there was a

32:26.760 --> 32:28.200
number if there

32:28.200 --> 32:29.000
was a value for

32:29.000 --> 32:30.000
the card which

32:30.000 --> 32:30.980
was not too

32:30.980 --> 32:32.140
ridiculously uh

32:32.140 --> 32:32.880
high on the

32:32.880 --> 32:33.880
chart and yet

32:33.880 --> 32:34.860
still says i

32:34.860 --> 32:36.340
hacked this it

32:36.340 --> 32:37.360
would be 313

32:37.360 --> 32:37.880
dollars and

32:37.880 --> 32:38.740
37 cents

32:38.740 --> 32:43.000
okay so for

32:43.000 --> 32:44.180
the just just in

32:44.180 --> 32:44.740
case people don't

32:44.740 --> 32:45.420
know what what

32:45.420 --> 32:46.300
exactly can you do

32:46.300 --> 32:47.240
with these these

32:47.240 --> 32:48.780
smart cards well

32:48.780 --> 32:50.320
pretty much you can

32:50.320 --> 32:51.320
add value to them

32:51.320 --> 32:51.860
it seems without

32:51.860 --> 32:52.700
consequence because

32:52.700 --> 32:53.580
they never bother to

32:53.580 --> 32:54.440
check whether or

32:54.440 --> 32:55.700
not uh the card has

32:55.700 --> 32:56.920
been altered they

32:56.920 --> 32:57.780
never verify the

32:57.780 --> 32:58.520
value against the

32:58.520 --> 33:00.640
database um you so

33:00.640 --> 33:01.340
you can get free

33:01.340 --> 33:02.720
xeroxes theoretically

33:02.720 --> 33:04.520
you can get uh free

33:04.520 --> 33:05.340
unlimited time at the

33:05.340 --> 33:06.880
computers theoretically

33:06.880 --> 33:08.660
and you can even

33:08.660 --> 33:09.560
take the cards to

33:09.560 --> 33:10.360
the cashier and

33:10.360 --> 33:11.180
cash them out

33:11.180 --> 33:14.820
so basically you

33:14.820 --> 33:15.640
can you can you

33:15.640 --> 33:17.300
can sit there and

33:17.300 --> 33:18.500
say put a hundred

33:18.500 --> 33:19.540
dollars on 10

33:19.540 --> 33:21.080
kinko's cards go to

33:21.080 --> 33:22.140
10 kinko's around the

33:22.140 --> 33:22.580
area because

33:22.580 --> 33:23.360
technically if you do

33:23.360 --> 33:25.360
this like uh at one

33:25.360 --> 33:25.900
it'll be kind of

33:25.900 --> 33:27.400
suspicious yeah yeah

33:27.400 --> 33:27.960
they might get a

33:27.960 --> 33:28.680
little suspicious and

33:28.680 --> 33:29.980
basically walk out and

33:29.980 --> 33:32.020
an afternoon's work you

33:32.020 --> 33:32.600
can make a thousand

33:32.600 --> 33:33.960
dollars or steal a

33:33.960 --> 33:34.660
thousand dollars so

33:34.660 --> 33:35.300
let's let's let's

33:35.300 --> 33:36.320
let's clarify that it

33:36.320 --> 33:36.900
is stealing

33:36.900 --> 33:38.520
if you're a shady

33:38.520 --> 33:39.360
fellow which we are

33:39.360 --> 33:41.680
not yes so yeah if

33:41.680 --> 33:42.800
you do that yes you've

33:42.800 --> 33:44.120
got a thousand dollars

33:44.120 --> 33:44.960
in your pocket where

33:44.960 --> 33:46.160
before there was zero

33:46.160 --> 33:52.740
so well how long does

33:52.740 --> 33:53.380
this take you to do

33:53.380 --> 33:55.860
um i let's see i

33:55.860 --> 33:56.720
started doing the

33:56.720 --> 33:59.660
research i see i i

33:59.660 --> 34:00.740
guess i started i've

34:00.740 --> 34:01.940
been researching it on

34:01.940 --> 34:02.940
one off for a while i

34:02.940 --> 34:03.960
got heavy into the

34:03.960 --> 34:05.520
research uh towards

34:05.520 --> 34:07.460
like september october

34:07.460 --> 34:10.740
area of last year and

34:10.740 --> 34:12.540
i finally i finally broke

34:12.540 --> 34:14.340
it on february 8th

34:14.340 --> 34:19.540
and you you it did so

34:19.540 --> 34:20.180
you said you've

34:20.180 --> 34:22.060
contacted fedex and

34:22.060 --> 34:22.800
have you actually done

34:22.800 --> 34:24.740
have they i mean they

34:24.740 --> 34:25.520
haven't done anything but

34:25.520 --> 34:26.360
have they contacted you

34:26.360 --> 34:27.540
back no they never

34:27.540 --> 34:28.880
replied to our uh they

34:28.880 --> 34:29.960
never replied to our alert

34:29.960 --> 34:32.600
to them and then uh so

34:32.600 --> 34:34.300
so what happened

34:34.300 --> 34:35.900
actually was someone

34:35.900 --> 34:39.040
from uh from cnet uh

34:39.040 --> 34:40.580
sent lance an email and

34:40.580 --> 34:42.040
said uh i i was trying

34:42.040 --> 34:43.500
to in fact let me if i

34:43.500 --> 34:44.400
pull up the uh the dig

34:44.400 --> 34:46.060
article about it this

34:46.060 --> 34:47.560
this is in the notes um

34:47.560 --> 34:50.360
so someone so a uh a

34:50.360 --> 34:51.020
reporter from cnet

34:51.020 --> 34:52.040
contacted lance and said

34:52.040 --> 34:52.860
he had called kinkos

34:52.860 --> 34:53.520
about just called

34:53.520 --> 34:54.480
fedex kinkos about this

34:54.480 --> 34:56.960
and fedex kinkos uh mailed

34:56.960 --> 34:58.360
mailed them back and said

34:58.360 --> 35:00.480
our analysis shows that

35:00.480 --> 35:01.320
the information in the

35:01.320 --> 35:02.380
article is inaccurate and

35:02.380 --> 35:03.440
not based on the way the

35:03.440 --> 35:04.420
actual technology and

35:04.420 --> 35:05.920
security function security

35:05.920 --> 35:07.100
is a priority for fedex

35:07.100 --> 35:07.920
kinkos and we are

35:07.920 --> 35:08.860
confident in the security

35:08.860 --> 35:09.500
of our network and

35:09.500 --> 35:10.300
preventing such illegal

35:10.300 --> 35:13.300
activity so of course uh

35:13.300 --> 35:15.740
this means that fedex kinkos

35:15.740 --> 35:16.980
obviously has no clue how

35:16.980 --> 35:18.040
the system works and on

35:18.040 --> 35:19.100
track who is the company

35:19.100 --> 35:19.860
who developed the card

35:19.860 --> 35:21.480
system is lying to fedex

35:21.480 --> 35:23.460
through their teeth and

35:23.460 --> 35:24.980
lance posted said all the

35:24.980 --> 35:26.400
person has no clue actually

35:26.400 --> 35:27.200
how the system works

35:27.200 --> 35:28.960
yes exactly and it's just

35:28.960 --> 35:29.440
doing something that

35:29.440 --> 35:30.600
sounds good so lance

35:30.600 --> 35:31.560
posted our response and

35:31.560 --> 35:32.360
then my photograph of

35:32.360 --> 35:33.840
313 dollars and 37

35:33.840 --> 35:34.180
cents

35:34.180 --> 35:39.220
so look at that you're a

35:39.220 --> 35:40.600
minor celebrity you if you

35:40.600 --> 35:41.440
get interviewed on this

35:41.440 --> 35:42.320
year you are going to

35:42.320 --> 35:43.720
pimp the show right of

35:43.720 --> 35:44.480
course i'm going to pimp

35:44.480 --> 35:46.700
the show wow okay just

35:46.700 --> 35:49.640
making sure yeah it's wow

35:49.640 --> 35:51.320
it's got 102 digs already

35:51.320 --> 35:53.660
and it was 57 digs before

35:53.660 --> 35:56.280
we started the show well

35:56.280 --> 35:57.080
before we started the show

35:57.080 --> 35:58.460
it was like 17 i mean when

35:58.460 --> 35:59.680
i checked it out like 915

35:59.680 --> 36:02.160
oh really it was uh 17

36:02.160 --> 36:05.240
wow okay i think i don't

36:05.240 --> 36:06.240
i'm not sure when exactly

36:06.240 --> 36:08.500
it uh was now i don't think

36:08.500 --> 36:09.580
i still have it up oh well

36:09.580 --> 36:11.040
yeah but when you first

36:11.040 --> 36:11.960
sent it to me i checked it

36:11.960 --> 36:13.080
out it was like 17 of them

36:13.080 --> 36:16.280
wow so yeah it was top story

36:16.280 --> 36:17.760
top story and security focus

36:17.760 --> 36:19.360
i'm hoping it goes to

36:19.360 --> 36:20.820
slash dot wink wink

36:20.820 --> 36:23.900
if i think i don't know

36:23.900 --> 36:25.580
someone uh submitted the

36:25.580 --> 36:27.060
slash dot earlier today and

36:27.060 --> 36:29.100
uh nothing happened yeah well

36:29.100 --> 36:32.600
i'm sure if if they sat on

36:32.600 --> 36:33.380
it and then they said oh

36:33.380 --> 36:34.340
wait a second this is getting

36:34.340 --> 36:36.300
a big thing they should they

36:36.300 --> 36:37.460
would probably be too well to

36:37.460 --> 36:38.700
post it to cover their asses i

36:38.700 --> 36:38.980
think

36:38.980 --> 36:43.800
right i don't know maybe i'm

36:43.800 --> 36:45.100
not really a regular slash dot

36:45.100 --> 36:45.800
reader so i don't know how

36:45.800 --> 36:47.280
the dynamics of slash dot work

36:47.280 --> 36:51.220
really i i haven't i haven't

36:51.220 --> 36:55.900
actually like gone around and

36:55.900 --> 36:57.860
like started like i used to

36:57.860 --> 36:59.180
religiously read slash dot but i

36:59.180 --> 36:59.840
haven't done that in like

36:59.840 --> 37:00.220
forever

37:00.220 --> 37:02.940
yeah i think i like maybe once a

37:02.940 --> 37:04.200
week or something i just kind of

37:04.200 --> 37:05.720
pull it up and flip through it and

37:05.720 --> 37:07.020
go oh that looks interesting junk

37:07.020 --> 37:08.580
junk junk junk junk interesting junk

37:08.580 --> 37:09.800
junk junk junk junk junk junk

37:09.800 --> 37:13.960
oh i guess yeah well um i mean

37:13.960 --> 37:15.100
that's basically what i do i just

37:15.100 --> 37:16.580
i don't really have like more of

37:16.580 --> 37:18.840
a uh schedule i guess

37:18.840 --> 37:23.180
um as for me i assume you're done

37:23.180 --> 37:24.440
is there anything else you would

37:24.440 --> 37:25.200
like to say about this

37:25.200 --> 37:28.040
uh yeah that's pretty much it i'm

37:28.040 --> 37:29.900
going to be i guess i'll pimp the

37:29.900 --> 37:31.340
talk i'm going to give i'm going

37:31.340 --> 37:32.600
to be giving this talk at layer one

37:32.600 --> 37:35.220
in in april in pasadena and i'll

37:35.220 --> 37:37.320
also be giving the uh the talk at

37:37.320 --> 37:38.300
prime i'm going to submit the

37:38.300 --> 37:39.900
talk i haven't sent it in yet to

37:39.900 --> 37:42.400
black hat and defcon and see if

37:42.400 --> 37:46.540
they uh say yes so definitely

37:46.540 --> 37:48.180
layer one maybe black hat and

37:48.180 --> 37:48.620
defcon

37:48.620 --> 37:52.260
my goodness you know get black hat

37:52.260 --> 37:53.640
you might get busted by cisco or

37:53.640 --> 37:53.920
something

37:53.920 --> 37:54.540
oh no

37:54.540 --> 37:56.000
and i'll rip out all the stuff in

37:56.000 --> 37:57.220
the uh pages

37:57.220 --> 37:58.940
or if your pages presentation out

37:58.940 --> 37:59.900
of the uh documents

37:59.900 --> 38:01.420
holy crap

38:01.420 --> 38:05.400
um that's for me i i haven't been

38:05.400 --> 38:05.860
doing anything

38:05.860 --> 38:08.120
i've been i've been just doing

38:08.120 --> 38:10.080
random programming i i've i've

38:10.080 --> 38:12.420
stank uh approached me with an

38:12.420 --> 38:14.480
idea and i can't say what it is

38:14.480 --> 38:14.840
yet

38:14.840 --> 38:16.500
but uh i've been

38:16.500 --> 38:18.520
i've been programming an

38:18.520 --> 38:20.540
interesting utility that that might

38:20.540 --> 38:21.880
be released relatively soon

38:21.880 --> 38:25.020
we'll we'll we will see it's it's

38:25.020 --> 38:25.940
cool look at that way

38:25.940 --> 38:30.340
um yeah other than that i haven't

38:30.340 --> 38:31.260
really been doing much i've been

38:31.260 --> 38:32.880
work's been work's been

38:32.880 --> 38:34.140
interesting how can we say

38:34.140 --> 38:39.220
so our our our show topic tonight

38:39.220 --> 38:42.700
is i don't know i guess you could

38:42.700 --> 38:44.820
say tivo hacking or yeah tivo

38:44.820 --> 38:46.600
modifications how about that or just

38:46.600 --> 38:47.820
hardware hacking your tivo

38:47.820 --> 38:50.000
yeah hacking your tivo i guess i'd

38:50.000 --> 38:51.180
have to i might have to buy a

38:51.180 --> 38:52.380
television set after listening to

38:52.380 --> 38:52.760
this show

38:52.760 --> 38:54.180
oh yeah

38:54.180 --> 38:55.140
oh you'd be

38:55.140 --> 38:58.400
television is overrated

38:58.400 --> 39:00.220
actually can you use tivo with

39:00.220 --> 39:01.820
just i i assume you can use tivo

39:01.820 --> 39:03.140
just like rabbit ears or something

39:03.140 --> 39:05.520
it's just very useless

39:05.520 --> 39:07.400
well just with rabbit ears maybe

39:07.400 --> 39:08.700
but but you have nothing to display

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it on

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without a television set

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oh that means

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oh thank you

39:13.820 --> 39:16.940
yeah i'm just imagining a tivo

39:16.940 --> 39:18.260
sitting there with rabbit ears on

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top of it no display device

39:19.800 --> 39:20.860
what's it doing

39:20.860 --> 39:22.640
you have a computer don't you

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it's

39:22.860 --> 39:24.360
yeah i've got a computer

39:24.360 --> 39:27.220
okay well you can watch your tivo

39:27.220 --> 39:28.020
through your computer

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you can watch it live as it's

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recording

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omg

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yeah you can use uh mplayer

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for linux

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sweet

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all right so

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well useless do you want to take

39:41.820 --> 39:43.280
this over or should i just you

39:43.280 --> 39:44.380
know should i just start asking you

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random questions

39:45.260 --> 39:47.600
well i'll start out real quick

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with a brief thing

39:48.260 --> 39:49.960
everybody knows what a tivo is now

39:49.960 --> 39:51.180
it's it's rampant

39:51.180 --> 39:53.260
nobody buys vcrs anymore

39:53.260 --> 39:54.100
they buy tivos

39:54.100 --> 39:55.220
or if they're really cheap

39:55.220 --> 39:56.240
they buy another dvr

39:56.240 --> 39:56.760
because they don't know

39:56.760 --> 39:57.500
what the hell they're doing

39:57.500 --> 40:00.040
well it's about a vcr

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if we go get into that

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i have two vcrs on my television

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in my bedroom actually

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that's the only place that they are

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what do you have

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virtual phones too or something

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oh wait a minute

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uh actually i do

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they're in the garage

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and so do you strom

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so shoot up

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i know i know

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okay

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um

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i like it when my desk phone

40:20.880 --> 40:22.060
weighs 10 pounds

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that's a nice thing to me

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hell yeah

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anyway

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tangent uh

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coming back from a tangent

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okay

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so

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tivo

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allows you to record

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television programs

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on

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a hard drive

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much like you would

40:36.280 --> 40:37.320
if you had a pdr

40:37.320 --> 40:38.260
on your computer

40:38.260 --> 40:41.680
it records an mpeg format

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an mpeg 2

40:42.400 --> 40:44.620
and

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one of the special things

40:46.660 --> 40:47.280
about tivo

40:47.280 --> 40:47.880
is

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it

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also has

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guide lists

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and it automates

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all the recordings for you

40:53.740 --> 40:54.760
rather than you just

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watching tv on your computer

40:56.240 --> 40:56.540
and going

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oh i'd like to capture this

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uh

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it allows you to

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automate everything

41:01.900 --> 41:03.220
in a very simple

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user interface way

41:04.420 --> 41:04.940
any

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shlomo

41:06.040 --> 41:06.760
out there

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can buy a tivo

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and now they've got it working

41:09.380 --> 41:12.460
under normal circumstances

41:12.460 --> 41:13.720
you buy a tivo

41:13.720 --> 41:15.180
you get the tivo service

41:15.180 --> 41:16.580
which allows you to

41:16.580 --> 41:18.660
use all of their

41:18.660 --> 41:19.000
uh

41:19.000 --> 41:20.480
guiding information

41:20.480 --> 41:21.640
and some other features

41:21.640 --> 41:22.680
that i'll get to a little later

41:22.680 --> 41:25.300
uh

41:25.300 --> 41:26.720
there are a couple kinds of tivos

41:26.720 --> 41:27.420
out there right now

41:27.420 --> 41:28.080
there's series one

41:28.080 --> 41:29.380
which was the original tivo

41:29.380 --> 41:31.160
not a whole lot on it

41:31.160 --> 41:31.940
um

41:31.940 --> 41:34.220
it's got a telephone port

41:34.220 --> 41:35.560
and some

41:35.560 --> 41:37.580
rca outs

41:37.580 --> 41:39.620
and that's

41:39.620 --> 41:40.640
about it

41:40.640 --> 41:41.580
there's really not

41:41.580 --> 41:42.340
much going on

41:42.340 --> 41:42.840
in that tivo

41:42.840 --> 41:43.980
it records mpeg 2

41:43.980 --> 41:44.760
and plays it back

41:44.760 --> 41:45.800
and it's got some menus

41:45.800 --> 41:48.740
the insides are a little

41:48.740 --> 41:49.100
different

41:49.100 --> 41:49.840
and i'll

41:49.840 --> 41:50.800
again i'll get to that

41:50.800 --> 41:51.300
a little later

41:51.300 --> 41:51.840
uh

41:51.840 --> 41:52.820
series 2 tivo

41:52.820 --> 41:53.180
however

41:53.180 --> 41:54.160
has some other features

41:54.160 --> 41:54.480
on it

41:54.480 --> 41:55.240
it usually has

41:55.240 --> 41:56.860
usb connectors on it

41:56.860 --> 41:57.760
which some of the

41:57.760 --> 41:59.080
series ones had

41:59.080 --> 41:59.880
but you have to look

41:59.880 --> 42:00.500
kind of hard

42:00.500 --> 42:01.960
um

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some of them have

42:03.360 --> 42:04.180
ethernet ports

42:04.180 --> 42:06.100
and there's also

42:06.100 --> 42:07.160
a third kind

42:07.160 --> 42:07.780
of tivo

42:07.780 --> 42:08.440
called

42:08.440 --> 42:09.820
the direct tv tivo

42:09.820 --> 42:11.460
d tivos for short

42:11.460 --> 42:13.500
and direct tv

42:13.500 --> 42:14.400
was actually selling

42:14.400 --> 42:15.260
this as their dbr

42:15.260 --> 42:15.840
for a while

42:15.840 --> 42:16.600
they're no longer

42:16.600 --> 42:17.060
doing it

42:17.060 --> 42:18.080
they discontinued it

42:18.080 --> 42:19.620
i think last month

42:19.620 --> 42:21.180
they discontinued

42:21.180 --> 42:21.720
all support

42:21.720 --> 42:22.240
and they decided

42:22.240 --> 42:22.880
we're not going to

42:22.880 --> 42:23.960
do anything with this

42:23.960 --> 42:25.140
because we want

42:25.140 --> 42:25.840
to sell our own

42:25.840 --> 42:27.940
which is a tivo

42:27.940 --> 42:28.960
in disguise

42:28.960 --> 42:30.160
without the brand

42:30.160 --> 42:32.180
name on it

42:32.180 --> 42:33.380
it doesn't have

42:33.380 --> 42:33.820
a little mustache

42:33.820 --> 42:34.480
on it too

42:34.480 --> 42:35.400
um

42:35.400 --> 42:37.160
no it doesn't

42:37.160 --> 42:37.720
have a mustache

42:37.720 --> 42:38.880
glasses over the

42:38.880 --> 42:39.480
tivo logo

42:39.480 --> 42:41.360
any uh

42:41.360 --> 42:42.040
any reference

42:42.040 --> 42:42.860
to it being a

42:42.860 --> 42:43.400
tivo is pretty

42:43.400 --> 42:44.140
much gone

42:44.140 --> 42:45.680
but uh

42:45.680 --> 42:46.020
if you

42:46.020 --> 42:46.660
know

42:46.660 --> 42:47.300
i mean

42:47.300 --> 42:47.720
you're

42:47.720 --> 42:48.560
you're

42:48.560 --> 42:49.000
you're saying

42:49.000 --> 42:49.620
it's a tivo

42:49.620 --> 42:50.020
i mean

42:50.020 --> 42:50.600
are you saying

42:50.600 --> 42:51.260
it's a tivo

42:51.260 --> 42:52.660
but just like

42:52.660 --> 42:53.320
it's unbranded

42:53.320 --> 42:53.860
or are you

42:53.860 --> 42:54.220
just saying

42:54.220 --> 42:54.880
they're just

42:54.880 --> 42:55.660
they're making

42:55.660 --> 42:56.580
their own tivo

42:56.580 --> 42:57.260
thing and they're

42:57.260 --> 42:57.980
reverse engineered

42:57.980 --> 42:58.680
it or something

42:58.680 --> 42:59.760
um

42:59.760 --> 43:00.720
it is a tivo

43:00.720 --> 43:01.520
most of the tivo

43:01.520 --> 43:02.340
software is actually

43:02.340 --> 43:03.280
open source

43:03.280 --> 43:04.240
uh

43:04.240 --> 43:05.040
separate couple

43:05.040 --> 43:05.580
of things

43:05.580 --> 43:06.560
in there

43:06.560 --> 43:07.980
um

43:07.980 --> 43:08.600
they purchased

43:08.600 --> 43:09.660
rights to use

43:09.660 --> 43:10.360
those couple

43:10.360 --> 43:10.940
of pieces of

43:10.940 --> 43:11.280
software

43:11.280 --> 43:11.740
so they got

43:11.740 --> 43:12.280
really old

43:12.280 --> 43:12.720
versions

43:12.720 --> 43:14.200
and they pretty

43:14.200 --> 43:14.900
much took out

43:14.900 --> 43:15.660
the tivo name

43:15.660 --> 43:16.180
which isn't

43:16.180 --> 43:16.820
hard to do

43:16.820 --> 43:17.600
uh

43:17.600 --> 43:18.460
once you start

43:18.460 --> 43:19.140
going into your

43:19.140 --> 43:19.840
tivo and screwing

43:19.840 --> 43:20.200
with stuff

43:20.200 --> 43:20.900
you can change

43:20.900 --> 43:21.420
all kinds of

43:21.420 --> 43:21.700
things

43:21.700 --> 43:23.220
so

43:23.220 --> 43:24.500
i'm sure they

43:24.500 --> 43:25.020
were able to

43:25.020 --> 43:25.560
take out

43:25.560 --> 43:26.920
the tivo brand

43:26.920 --> 43:27.860
name fairly easily

43:27.860 --> 43:29.220
and just bought

43:29.220 --> 43:30.380
license to use

43:30.380 --> 43:32.100
a couple of

43:32.100 --> 43:33.520
uh

43:33.520 --> 43:34.360
applications that

43:34.360 --> 43:34.780
they have in

43:34.780 --> 43:35.220
there like

43:35.220 --> 43:36.220
apg manager

43:36.220 --> 43:38.420
and

43:38.420 --> 43:39.520
that's

43:39.520 --> 43:40.080
that's about

43:40.080 --> 43:40.720
all they did

43:40.720 --> 43:41.140
uh

43:41.140 --> 43:42.160
they still use

43:42.160 --> 43:43.520
i think a

43:43.520 --> 43:44.380
masqueraded version

43:44.380 --> 43:44.940
of the old

43:44.940 --> 43:45.660
tivo software

43:45.660 --> 43:46.360
so that you can

43:46.360 --> 43:46.920
save your

43:46.920 --> 43:47.620
programs on

43:47.620 --> 43:48.600
your computer

43:48.600 --> 43:51.940
basically if you

43:51.940 --> 43:52.480
crack it open

43:52.480 --> 43:53.260
it's it's more

43:53.260 --> 43:53.860
or less identical

43:53.860 --> 43:54.500
to a

43:54.500 --> 43:55.560
tivo

43:55.560 --> 43:56.600
yeah

43:56.600 --> 43:57.280
yeah

43:57.280 --> 43:58.040
it's more

43:58.040 --> 43:58.340
or less

43:58.340 --> 43:58.700
like a

43:58.700 --> 43:59.240
dtivo

43:59.240 --> 44:00.460
because they

44:00.460 --> 44:01.000
had a bunch

44:01.000 --> 44:01.380
of hardware

44:01.380 --> 44:01.820
i'm sure

44:01.820 --> 44:02.280
and they

44:02.280 --> 44:02.660
just wanted

44:02.660 --> 44:03.000
to reuse

44:03.000 --> 44:03.600
that anyway

44:03.600 --> 44:05.440
makes sense

44:05.440 --> 44:05.960
makes sense

44:05.960 --> 44:07.700
all right

44:07.700 --> 44:08.660
so it's got

44:08.660 --> 44:09.200
this this

44:09.200 --> 44:09.720
dtivo

44:09.720 --> 44:10.140
what do we

44:10.140 --> 44:10.320
know

44:10.320 --> 44:11.140
usb

44:11.140 --> 44:11.780
ethernet

44:11.780 --> 44:12.580
rca

44:12.580 --> 44:13.180
what else

44:13.180 --> 44:13.380
does it

44:13.380 --> 44:13.620
have

44:13.620 --> 44:14.940
uh

44:14.940 --> 44:15.500
dtivos

44:15.500 --> 44:16.100
have

44:16.100 --> 44:16.880
uh

44:16.880 --> 44:17.460
places to

44:17.460 --> 44:17.940
put in

44:17.940 --> 44:18.720
uh

44:18.720 --> 44:19.320
cable card

44:19.320 --> 44:19.700
type

44:19.700 --> 44:20.620
uh

44:20.620 --> 44:21.960
access cards

44:21.960 --> 44:22.320
so that they

44:22.320 --> 44:22.820
can decode

44:22.820 --> 44:23.780
decode

44:23.780 --> 44:24.240
decode

44:24.240 --> 44:24.640
the satellite

44:24.640 --> 44:25.240
information

44:25.240 --> 44:26.240
they also

44:26.240 --> 44:26.980
tend to have

44:26.980 --> 44:27.400
uh

44:27.400 --> 44:27.940
on the newer

44:27.940 --> 44:28.380
models

44:28.380 --> 44:29.260
an r.id

44:29.260 --> 44:29.920
just like

44:29.920 --> 44:30.420
any other

44:30.420 --> 44:30.980
satellite

44:30.980 --> 44:31.460
receiver

44:31.460 --> 44:34.020
um

44:34.020 --> 44:34.360
for

44:34.360 --> 44:34.820
if you

44:34.820 --> 44:35.120
don't know

44:35.120 --> 44:35.720
what an r.id

44:35.720 --> 44:36.020
is

44:36.020 --> 44:36.300
it's a

44:36.300 --> 44:36.620
receiver

44:36.620 --> 44:37.100
id

44:37.100 --> 44:37.680
so that

44:37.680 --> 44:37.960
your

44:37.960 --> 44:38.320
satellite

44:38.320 --> 44:38.720
company

44:38.720 --> 44:39.240
can track

44:39.240 --> 44:39.500
who the

44:39.500 --> 44:39.640
hell

44:39.640 --> 44:40.120
you are

44:40.120 --> 44:41.580
every time

44:41.580 --> 44:41.960
you access

44:41.960 --> 44:42.560
their service

44:42.560 --> 44:44.300
oh

44:44.300 --> 44:44.940
like the

44:44.940 --> 44:45.820
little smart

44:45.820 --> 44:46.040
card

44:46.040 --> 44:46.520
thingies

44:46.520 --> 44:48.100
um

44:48.100 --> 44:48.660
actually

44:48.660 --> 44:49.500
it's hard

44:49.500 --> 44:49.840
into the

44:49.840 --> 44:50.040
board

44:50.040 --> 44:50.540
the r.id

44:50.540 --> 44:50.880
is hard

44:50.880 --> 44:51.200
into the

44:51.200 --> 44:51.440
board

44:51.440 --> 44:52.460
and you

44:52.460 --> 44:52.800
can find

44:52.800 --> 44:53.040
it on

44:53.040 --> 44:53.360
the back

44:53.360 --> 44:54.240
of your

44:54.240 --> 44:54.620
desk

44:54.620 --> 44:55.660
uh

44:55.660 --> 44:56.500
what you're

44:56.500 --> 44:56.900
talking about

44:56.900 --> 44:57.020
the

44:57.020 --> 44:58.220
yeah

44:58.220 --> 44:58.880
the smart

44:58.880 --> 44:59.240
card

44:59.240 --> 44:59.560
that you're

44:59.560 --> 45:00.040
referring to

45:00.040 --> 45:00.400
is actually

45:00.400 --> 45:00.840
the cable

45:00.840 --> 45:01.120
card

45:01.120 --> 45:01.480
stuff

45:01.480 --> 45:02.000
which has

45:02.000 --> 45:02.300
all the

45:02.300 --> 45:02.660
decryption

45:02.660 --> 45:03.300
information

45:03.300 --> 45:05.180
uh

45:05.180 --> 45:05.720
cable

45:05.720 --> 45:06.120
companies

45:06.120 --> 45:06.760
use it

45:06.760 --> 45:07.400
but they

45:07.400 --> 45:08.500
they don't

45:08.500 --> 45:09.180
generally use

45:09.180 --> 45:09.640
the smart

45:09.640 --> 45:09.920
card

45:09.920 --> 45:10.280
anymore

45:10.280 --> 45:10.980
they use

45:10.980 --> 45:11.500
uh

45:11.500 --> 45:11.940
actual

45:11.940 --> 45:12.640
plug-in

45:12.640 --> 45:13.640
like a

45:13.640 --> 45:14.380
PCMCIA

45:14.380 --> 45:14.740
card

45:14.740 --> 45:15.040
card

45:15.040 --> 45:15.320
bus

45:15.320 --> 45:15.640
card

45:15.640 --> 45:17.040
into the

45:17.040 --> 45:17.280
back

45:17.280 --> 45:17.560
of

45:17.560 --> 45:17.980
uh

45:17.980 --> 45:18.620
whatever

45:18.620 --> 45:19.000
device

45:19.000 --> 45:19.360
they're using

45:19.360 --> 45:19.700
like the

45:19.700 --> 45:20.040
scientific

45:20.040 --> 45:20.380
Atlanta

45:20.380 --> 45:20.740
boxes

45:20.740 --> 45:21.100
at one

45:21.100 --> 45:21.320
bar

45:21.320 --> 45:22.980
well

45:22.980 --> 45:23.120
because

45:23.120 --> 45:23.400
those

45:23.400 --> 45:23.660
smart

45:23.660 --> 45:23.940
cards

45:23.940 --> 45:24.180
they're

45:24.180 --> 45:24.420
they're

45:24.420 --> 45:25.040
unreliable

45:25.040 --> 45:26.320
yep

45:26.320 --> 45:29.420
yeah

45:29.420 --> 45:29.920
I know

45:29.920 --> 45:30.080
a bit

45:30.080 --> 45:30.620
about that

45:30.620 --> 45:31.900
yeah

45:31.900 --> 45:32.760
I don't

45:32.760 --> 45:32.940
know

45:32.940 --> 45:33.180
I

45:33.180 --> 45:33.900
personally

45:33.900 --> 45:34.320
if you

45:34.320 --> 45:34.620
set up

45:34.620 --> 45:34.940
a smart

45:34.940 --> 45:35.140
card

45:35.140 --> 45:35.340
right

45:35.340 --> 45:35.580
I

45:35.580 --> 45:36.200
like

45:36.200 --> 45:36.380
the

45:36.380 --> 45:36.660
fact

45:36.660 --> 45:36.880
that

45:36.880 --> 45:37.020
it

45:37.020 --> 45:37.160
will

45:37.160 --> 45:37.380
eat

45:37.380 --> 45:37.760
itself

45:37.760 --> 45:38.080
if you

45:38.080 --> 45:38.360
try to

45:38.360 --> 45:38.540
crack

45:38.540 --> 45:39.020
the password

45:39.020 --> 45:39.440
too many

45:39.440 --> 45:39.820
times

45:39.820 --> 45:40.480
mm-hmm

45:40.480 --> 45:42.220
I

45:42.220 --> 45:42.480
thought

45:42.480 --> 45:42.640
that

45:42.640 --> 45:42.780
was

45:42.780 --> 45:43.160
cool

45:43.160 --> 45:43.960
that

45:43.960 --> 45:44.160
was

45:44.160 --> 45:44.260
a

45:44.260 --> 45:44.380
cool

45:44.380 --> 45:44.660
feature

45:44.660 --> 45:44.800
to

45:44.800 --> 45:45.040
have

45:45.040 --> 45:45.980
it's

45:45.980 --> 45:46.060
a

45:46.060 --> 45:46.200
cool

45:46.200 --> 45:46.500
feature

45:46.500 --> 45:46.720
until

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you

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actually

45:47.200 --> 45:47.420
sit

45:47.420 --> 45:47.620
there

45:47.620 --> 45:47.760
with

45:47.760 --> 45:47.860
a

45:47.860 --> 45:48.100
logic

45:48.100 --> 45:48.660
analyzer

45:48.660 --> 45:48.840
and

45:48.840 --> 45:49.160
diverse

45:49.160 --> 45:49.520
engineer

45:49.520 --> 45:50.020
all this

45:50.020 --> 45:51.180
oh yeah

45:51.180 --> 45:52.320
but it

45:52.320 --> 45:52.580
was a good

45:52.580 --> 45:52.860
idea

45:52.860 --> 45:53.160
I mean

45:53.160 --> 45:53.760
it kept

45:53.760 --> 45:54.220
people out

45:54.220 --> 45:54.480
for a

45:54.480 --> 45:54.760
while

45:54.760 --> 45:56.040
mm-hmm

45:56.040 --> 45:57.040
mm-hmm

45:57.040 --> 45:57.660
well I

45:57.660 --> 45:57.840
mean

45:57.840 --> 45:58.760
just

45:58.760 --> 45:59.240
sort of

45:59.240 --> 45:59.480
go off

45:59.480 --> 45:59.740
a tangent

45:59.740 --> 45:59.960
here

45:59.960 --> 46:00.060
I

46:00.060 --> 46:00.160
mean

46:00.160 --> 46:00.660
I

46:00.660 --> 46:01.080
think

46:01.080 --> 46:01.160
it

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was

46:01.280 --> 46:01.740
DirecTV

46:01.740 --> 46:02.060
maybe

46:02.060 --> 46:02.220
it

46:02.220 --> 46:02.300
was

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Dish

46:02.740 --> 46:03.060
Network

46:03.060 --> 46:03.280
or

46:03.280 --> 46:03.500
Echo

46:03.500 --> 46:03.820
Star

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or

46:03.960 --> 46:04.080
one

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of

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the

46:04.240 --> 46:04.500
earlier

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ones

46:04.840 --> 46:05.780
they

46:05.780 --> 46:07.780
I

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mean

46:07.960 --> 46:08.100
there

46:08.100 --> 46:08.500
was

46:08.500 --> 46:08.960
a

46:08.960 --> 46:09.500
large

46:09.500 --> 46:10.020
piracy

46:10.020 --> 46:10.380
movement

46:10.380 --> 46:10.580
there

46:10.580 --> 46:10.740
that

46:10.740 --> 46:11.100
basically

46:11.100 --> 46:11.540
people

46:11.540 --> 46:12.040
would

46:12.040 --> 46:12.880
basically

46:12.880 --> 46:13.260
make

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bum

46:13.540 --> 46:13.860
smart

46:13.860 --> 46:14.160
cards

46:14.160 --> 46:14.340
and

46:14.340 --> 46:14.440
they

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would

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clone

46:14.840 --> 46:15.040
it

46:15.040 --> 46:15.800
and

46:15.800 --> 46:16.120
there

46:16.120 --> 46:16.260
was

46:16.260 --> 46:16.440
like

46:16.440 --> 46:16.620
a

46:16.620 --> 46:17.040
large

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group

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of

46:17.660 --> 46:17.900
people

46:17.900 --> 46:18.120
who

46:18.120 --> 46:18.440
basically

46:18.440 --> 46:18.700
had

46:18.700 --> 46:18.900
these

46:18.900 --> 46:19.100
bum

46:19.100 --> 46:19.380
smart

46:19.380 --> 46:19.720
cards

46:19.720 --> 46:19.920
who

46:19.920 --> 46:20.040
would

46:20.040 --> 46:20.200
just

46:20.200 --> 46:20.400
pull

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down

46:20.580 --> 46:20.820
the

46:20.820 --> 46:22.100
satellite

46:22.100 --> 46:22.500
signal

46:22.500 --> 46:22.680
for

46:22.680 --> 46:22.980
free

46:22.980 --> 46:23.500
until

46:23.500 --> 46:23.760
they

46:23.760 --> 46:24.080
actually

46:24.080 --> 46:24.360
found

46:24.360 --> 46:24.460
a

46:24.460 --> 46:24.580
way

46:24.580 --> 46:24.800
to

46:24.800 --> 46:25.900
combat

46:25.900 --> 46:26.260
them

46:26.260 --> 46:26.420
I

46:26.420 --> 46:26.580
think

46:26.580 --> 46:27.100
I

46:27.100 --> 46:27.540
believe

46:27.540 --> 46:31.900
you're

46:31.900 --> 46:32.100
talking

46:32.100 --> 46:32.300
about

46:32.300 --> 46:32.440
the

46:32.440 --> 46:32.760
Empress

46:32.760 --> 46:33.160
signal

46:33.160 --> 46:33.400
was

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the

46:33.560 --> 46:33.860
first

46:33.860 --> 46:34.300
thing

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to

46:34.440 --> 46:34.600
do

46:34.600 --> 46:34.780
that

46:34.780 --> 46:34.900
and

46:34.900 --> 46:35.040
they

46:35.040 --> 46:35.300
just

46:35.300 --> 46:36.580
sent

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an

46:36.760 --> 46:36.900
out

46:36.900 --> 46:37.020
of

46:37.020 --> 46:37.220
band

46:37.220 --> 46:37.580
signal

46:37.580 --> 46:37.860
down

46:37.860 --> 46:38.000
to

46:38.000 --> 46:38.120
a

46:38.120 --> 46:38.260
lot

46:38.260 --> 46:38.340
of

46:38.340 --> 46:38.440
the

46:38.440 --> 46:38.780
receivers

46:38.780 --> 46:39.000
and

46:39.000 --> 46:39.360
fried

46:39.360 --> 46:39.540
them

46:39.540 --> 46:41.920
yes

46:41.920 --> 46:42.720
I

46:42.720 --> 46:43.540
think

46:43.540 --> 46:43.700
it

46:43.700 --> 46:44.140
was

46:44.140 --> 46:45.260
I

46:45.260 --> 46:45.700
believe

46:45.700 --> 46:45.820
it

46:45.820 --> 46:45.920
was

46:45.920 --> 46:46.040
the

46:46.040 --> 46:46.220
first

46:46.220 --> 46:46.380
one

46:46.380 --> 46:46.480
and

46:46.480 --> 46:46.560
I

46:46.560 --> 46:46.720
believe

46:46.720 --> 46:46.860
there

46:46.860 --> 46:46.980
was

46:46.980 --> 46:47.240
another

46:47.240 --> 46:47.480
one

46:47.480 --> 46:47.620
that

46:47.620 --> 46:47.940
happened

46:47.940 --> 46:48.420
and

46:48.420 --> 46:48.640
it

46:48.640 --> 46:48.960
was

46:48.960 --> 46:50.440
I

46:50.440 --> 46:51.060
think

46:51.060 --> 46:51.220
what

46:51.220 --> 46:51.600
happened

46:51.600 --> 46:51.980
was

46:51.980 --> 46:52.200
it

46:52.200 --> 46:52.420
was

46:52.420 --> 46:52.940
on

46:52.940 --> 46:53.820
Super

46:53.820 --> 46:54.140
Bowl

46:54.140 --> 46:54.600
Sunday

46:54.600 --> 46:54.840
one

46:54.840 --> 46:54.940
of

46:54.940 --> 46:55.040
the

46:55.040 --> 46:55.740
big

46:55.740 --> 46:56.800
TV

46:56.800 --> 46:57.180
things

46:57.180 --> 46:57.320
in

46:57.320 --> 46:57.660
America

46:57.660 --> 46:58.600
they

46:58.600 --> 47:00.320
sent

47:00.320 --> 47:00.520
out

47:00.520 --> 47:00.640
a

47:00.640 --> 47:00.900
special

47:03.160 --> 47:04.420
reprogrammed

47:04.420 --> 47:04.520
it

47:04.520 --> 47:04.680
so

47:04.680 --> 47:04.800
when

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you

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flipped

47:05.160 --> 47:05.300
your

47:05.300 --> 47:05.500
thing

47:05.500 --> 47:05.780
back

47:05.780 --> 47:06.120
on

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it

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would

47:06.740 --> 47:06.920
just

47:06.920 --> 47:07.080
say

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game

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over

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on

47:07.900 --> 47:08.020
the

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screen

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and

47:08.700 --> 47:08.840
I

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gotta

47:09.120 --> 47:09.320
say

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that

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was

47:09.920 --> 47:11.120
it

47:11.120 --> 47:11.680
kind

47:11.680 --> 47:11.800
of

47:11.800 --> 47:11.980
sucked

47:11.980 --> 47:12.140
for

47:12.140 --> 47:12.240
all

47:12.240 --> 47:12.340
the

47:12.340 --> 47:12.560
people

47:12.560 --> 47:12.720
that

47:12.720 --> 47:12.880
were

47:12.880 --> 47:13.180
stealing

47:13.180 --> 47:13.580
signals

47:13.580 --> 47:13.820
but

47:13.820 --> 47:14.000
I

47:14.000 --> 47:14.120
gotta

47:14.120 --> 47:14.300
say

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that

47:14.420 --> 47:14.520
was

47:14.520 --> 47:14.700
pretty

47:14.700 --> 47:15.080
elegant

47:15.080 --> 47:15.840
that

47:15.840 --> 47:16.020
is

47:16.020 --> 47:16.140
an

47:16.140 --> 47:16.380
elegant

47:16.380 --> 47:16.780
hack

47:16.780 --> 47:17.840
that's

47:17.840 --> 47:18.040
pretty

47:18.040 --> 47:18.360
cool

47:18.360 --> 47:19.680
damn

47:19.680 --> 47:19.960
them

47:19.960 --> 47:20.260
for

47:20.260 --> 47:20.760
stealing

47:20.760 --> 47:21.940
service

47:21.940 --> 47:22.960
damn

47:22.960 --> 47:23.320
them

47:23.320 --> 47:23.820
stealing

47:23.820 --> 47:24.160
service

47:24.160 --> 47:24.320
is

47:24.320 --> 47:24.600
bad

47:24.600 --> 47:25.800
well

47:25.800 --> 47:25.980
no

47:25.980 --> 47:26.180
see

47:26.180 --> 47:26.360
because

47:26.360 --> 47:26.980
that's

47:26.980 --> 47:27.080
what

47:27.080 --> 47:27.180
I

47:27.180 --> 47:27.360
have

47:27.360 --> 47:27.480
one

47:27.480 --> 47:27.540
of

47:27.540 --> 47:27.620
the

47:27.620 --> 47:27.960
questions

47:27.960 --> 47:28.220
is

47:28.220 --> 47:29.100
that's

47:29.100 --> 47:29.220
one

47:29.220 --> 47:29.300
of

47:29.300 --> 47:29.460
those

47:29.460 --> 47:29.720
nice

47:29.720 --> 47:30.060
hazy

47:30.060 --> 47:30.320
gray

47:30.320 --> 47:30.660
areas

47:30.660 --> 47:30.940
for me

47:30.940 --> 47:31.320
personally

47:31.320 --> 47:31.700
because

47:31.700 --> 47:32.200
you're

47:32.200 --> 47:32.820
broadcasting

47:32.820 --> 47:33.080
the

47:33.080 --> 47:33.460
signal

47:33.460 --> 47:34.520
to me

47:34.520 --> 47:35.240
and

47:35.240 --> 47:35.400
you're

47:35.400 --> 47:35.620
saying

47:35.620 --> 47:35.860
I

47:35.860 --> 47:36.140
can't

47:36.140 --> 47:36.360
listen

47:36.360 --> 47:36.660
to it

47:36.660 --> 47:36.780
I

47:36.780 --> 47:36.920
mean

47:36.920 --> 47:37.060
what

47:37.060 --> 47:37.220
the

47:37.220 --> 47:37.380
hell

47:37.380 --> 47:37.460
is

47:37.460 --> 47:37.600
up

47:37.600 --> 47:37.740
with

47:37.740 --> 47:38.020
that

47:38.020 --> 47:38.900
unless

47:38.900 --> 47:39.420
you

47:39.420 --> 47:39.560
can

47:39.560 --> 47:39.900
say

47:39.900 --> 47:41.480
don't

47:41.480 --> 47:42.040
broadcast

47:42.040 --> 47:42.540
this

47:42.540 --> 47:42.820
within

47:42.820 --> 47:43.140
my

47:43.140 --> 47:43.620
property

47:43.620 --> 47:44.300
you

47:44.300 --> 47:44.500
have

47:44.500 --> 47:44.700
no

47:44.700 --> 47:44.920
right

47:44.920 --> 47:45.060
to

47:45.060 --> 47:45.220
tell

47:45.220 --> 47:45.380
me

47:45.380 --> 47:45.540
that

47:45.540 --> 47:45.700
I

47:45.700 --> 47:45.920
can't

47:45.920 --> 47:46.080
listen

47:46.080 --> 47:46.200
to

47:46.200 --> 47:46.340
the

47:46.340 --> 47:46.620
signal

47:46.620 --> 47:47.360
and

47:47.360 --> 47:47.480
if

47:47.480 --> 47:47.600
I

47:47.600 --> 47:47.780
want

47:47.780 --> 47:47.880
to

47:47.880 --> 47:48.240
reverse

47:48.240 --> 47:48.540
engineer

47:48.540 --> 47:48.860
it

47:48.860 --> 47:49.020
and

47:49.020 --> 47:49.260
listen

47:49.260 --> 47:49.480
to

47:49.480 --> 47:49.620
it

47:49.620 --> 47:49.820
like

47:49.820 --> 47:50.060
for

47:50.060 --> 47:50.660
free

47:50.660 --> 47:52.420
that's

47:52.420 --> 47:52.580
my

47:52.580 --> 47:53.160
prerogative

47:53.160 --> 47:54.720
that's

47:54.720 --> 47:54.860
what the

47:54.860 --> 47:55.560
SPC is all

47:55.560 --> 47:55.960
about

47:55.960 --> 47:57.220
yeah

47:57.220 --> 47:57.520
I don't know

47:57.520 --> 47:57.840
tell me

47:57.840 --> 47:58.000
but

47:58.000 --> 47:59.220
that's

47:59.220 --> 47:59.500
a very

47:59.500 --> 48:00.060
interesting

48:00.060 --> 48:00.400
hazy

48:00.400 --> 48:00.660
gray

48:00.660 --> 48:01.080
at least

48:01.080 --> 48:01.420
for me

48:01.420 --> 48:01.640
I

48:01.640 --> 48:02.080
mean

48:02.080 --> 48:02.220
I

48:02.220 --> 48:02.380
don't

48:02.380 --> 48:02.520
know

48:02.520 --> 48:02.660
how

48:02.660 --> 48:02.840
other

48:02.840 --> 48:03.060
people

48:03.060 --> 48:03.280
look

48:03.280 --> 48:03.440
at

48:03.440 --> 48:03.600
it

48:03.600 --> 48:04.280
but

48:04.280 --> 48:04.660
you're

48:04.660 --> 48:05.300
broadcasting

48:05.300 --> 48:05.540
the

48:05.540 --> 48:05.780
signal

48:05.780 --> 48:06.000
to

48:06.000 --> 48:06.240
me

48:06.240 --> 48:06.380
and

48:06.380 --> 48:06.540
then

48:06.540 --> 48:06.800
saying

48:06.800 --> 48:07.440
no

48:07.440 --> 48:07.680
you

48:07.680 --> 48:07.980
can't

48:07.980 --> 48:08.140
look

48:08.140 --> 48:08.300
at

48:08.300 --> 48:08.380
it

48:08.380 --> 48:08.500
it's

48:08.500 --> 48:08.620
the

48:08.620 --> 48:08.800
same

48:08.800 --> 48:09.060
way

48:09.060 --> 48:09.340
of

48:09.340 --> 48:10.620
you're

48:10.620 --> 48:11.120
saying

48:11.120 --> 48:11.320
that

48:11.320 --> 48:11.480
I

48:11.480 --> 48:11.740
can't

48:11.740 --> 48:11.960
war

48:11.960 --> 48:12.380
drive

48:12.380 --> 48:12.660
I

48:12.660 --> 48:13.120
can't

48:13.120 --> 48:13.360
listen

48:13.360 --> 48:13.560
to

48:13.560 --> 48:13.760
other

48:13.760 --> 48:14.160
people's

48:14.160 --> 48:14.420
signals

48:14.420 --> 48:14.760
as long

48:14.760 --> 48:14.880
as

48:14.880 --> 48:15.000
I'm

48:15.000 --> 48:15.160
not

48:15.160 --> 48:15.700
broadcasting

48:15.700 --> 48:16.000
to

48:16.000 --> 48:16.120
it

48:16.120 --> 48:16.320
on

48:16.320 --> 48:16.960
wireless

48:16.960 --> 48:17.320
access

48:17.320 --> 48:17.740
points

48:17.740 --> 48:18.400
I

48:18.400 --> 48:18.540
mean

48:18.540 --> 48:18.900
you're

48:18.900 --> 48:19.780
broadcasting

48:19.780 --> 48:19.960
it

48:19.960 --> 48:20.100
to

48:20.100 --> 48:20.240
me

48:20.240 --> 48:20.480
I'm

48:20.480 --> 48:20.700
not

48:20.700 --> 48:21.040
talking

48:21.040 --> 48:21.280
to

48:21.280 --> 48:21.520
it

48:21.520 --> 48:23.740
anyway

48:23.740 --> 48:23.980
we're

48:23.980 --> 48:24.480
tangenting

48:24.480 --> 48:25.240
so

48:25.240 --> 48:27.040
so

48:27.040 --> 48:27.680
series

48:27.680 --> 48:28.000
2

48:28.000 --> 48:28.300
has

48:28.300 --> 48:28.560
this

48:28.560 --> 48:29.320
these

48:29.320 --> 48:30.040
all

48:30.040 --> 48:30.200
these

48:30.200 --> 48:30.520
cards

48:30.520 --> 48:30.680
and

48:30.680 --> 48:30.800
now

48:30.800 --> 48:30.960
what

48:30.960 --> 48:31.380
is

48:31.380 --> 48:31.580
this

48:31.580 --> 48:31.780
thing

48:31.780 --> 48:31.900
that

48:31.900 --> 48:32.040
you're

48:32.040 --> 48:32.200
talking

48:32.200 --> 48:32.420
about

48:32.420 --> 48:33.260
called

48:33.260 --> 48:34.620
HMO

48:34.620 --> 48:35.060
slash

48:35.060 --> 48:35.520
HME

48:35.520 --> 48:36.820
yes

48:36.820 --> 48:38.060
series

48:38.060 --> 48:38.340
2

48:38.340 --> 48:38.760
TiVos

48:38.760 --> 48:39.120
have

48:39.120 --> 48:39.300
a

48:39.300 --> 48:39.620
feature

48:39.620 --> 48:39.820
on

48:39.820 --> 48:39.980
them

48:39.980 --> 48:40.420
called

48:40.420 --> 48:41.040
HMO

48:41.040 --> 48:41.280
or

48:41.280 --> 48:41.740
HME

48:41.740 --> 48:42.060
which

48:42.060 --> 48:44.240
is

48:44.240 --> 48:44.760
the

48:44.760 --> 48:44.940
home

48:44.940 --> 48:45.180
media

48:45.180 --> 48:45.660
option

48:45.660 --> 48:46.020
is

48:46.020 --> 48:46.360
actually

48:46.360 --> 48:47.020
something

48:47.020 --> 48:47.560
like

48:47.560 --> 48:47.900
this

48:47.900 --> 48:48.020
is

48:48.020 --> 48:48.160
one

48:48.160 --> 48:48.240
of

48:48.240 --> 48:48.380
those

48:48.380 --> 48:48.680
features

48:48.680 --> 48:48.840
I

48:48.840 --> 48:48.960
was

48:48.960 --> 48:49.200
talking

48:49.200 --> 48:49.480
about

48:49.480 --> 48:49.840
to

48:49.840 --> 48:51.180
buy

48:51.180 --> 48:51.580
service

48:51.580 --> 48:51.820
from

48:51.820 --> 48:52.200
TiVo

48:52.200 --> 48:52.600
from

48:52.600 --> 48:52.940
to

48:52.940 --> 48:53.400
get

48:53.400 --> 48:53.740
access

48:53.740 --> 48:54.060
to

48:54.060 --> 48:55.220
although

48:55.220 --> 48:55.520
if

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you

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have

48:55.820 --> 48:55.900
a

48:55.900 --> 48:56.140
direct

48:56.140 --> 48:56.460
TiVo

48:56.460 --> 48:56.600
and

48:56.600 --> 48:56.840
manage

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to

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get

48:57.120 --> 48:57.220
it

48:57.220 --> 48:57.360
on

48:57.360 --> 48:57.480
there

48:57.480 --> 48:57.560
you

48:57.560 --> 48:57.740
don't

48:57.740 --> 48:58.000
pay

48:58.000 --> 48:58.280
for

48:58.280 --> 48:59.000
it

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but

48:59.940 --> 49:01.580
yeah

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that's

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one of

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those

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neat-o

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tricks

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anyways

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HMO

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was

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basically

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a

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way

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to

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allow

49:12.160 --> 49:12.420
you

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to

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listen

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to

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mp3s

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and

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get

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a

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couple

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of

49:16.560 --> 49:17.160
cool

49:17.160 --> 49:17.640
pictures

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from

49:18.460 --> 49:18.620
your

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computer

49:18.980 --> 49:19.580
on

49:19.580 --> 49:19.800
your

49:19.800 --> 49:20.160
TiVo

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HME

49:22.100 --> 49:22.800
which is

49:22.800 --> 49:22.900
the

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home

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media

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engine

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was

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actually

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a

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newer

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edition

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came out

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a few

49:28.220 --> 49:28.500
months

49:28.500 --> 49:28.840
ago

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that

49:30.480 --> 49:31.980
allowed

49:31.980 --> 49:32.260
you to

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do a

49:32.500 --> 49:32.880
whole lot

49:32.880 --> 49:33.260
more

49:33.260 --> 49:33.640
on

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your

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TiVo

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using

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Java

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jar

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files

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that's

49:38.660 --> 49:39.040
basically

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all it

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is

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your

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TiVo

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would

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hook up

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to your

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computer

49:44.880 --> 49:45.240
as a

49:45.240 --> 49:45.500
server

49:45.500 --> 49:46.180
and

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your

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server

49:46.540 --> 49:46.760
would

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send

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out

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jar

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files

49:47.960 --> 49:48.660
of

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whatever

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program

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you

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happen

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to

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want

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to

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run

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on

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my

49:52.860 --> 49:53.200
TiVo

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I

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have

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a

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lot

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of

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cool

49:55.300 --> 49:55.620
things

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on

49:55.800 --> 49:56.040
there

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I

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can

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listen

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to

49:57.380 --> 49:57.500
my

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mp3s

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but

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while

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I'm

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listening

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to

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my

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mp3s

50:00.900 --> 50:01.040
it

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shows

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me

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all

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the

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track

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lists

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the

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cover

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arts

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and

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the

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band

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etc

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all

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kinds

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of

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information

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I

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want

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to

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get

50:10.100 --> 50:10.220
that

50:10.220 --> 50:10.340
it

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automatically

50:10.740 --> 50:11.080
gets

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from

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Amazon

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so

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whatever

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basically

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it's

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iTunes

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for

50:15.140 --> 50:15.520
your

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TiVo

50:16.420 --> 50:17.920
kind

50:17.920 --> 50:18.140
of

50:18.140 --> 50:18.500
only

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you

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can't

50:19.760 --> 50:20.280
you

50:20.280 --> 50:20.820
can't

50:20.820 --> 50:21.100
buy

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new

50:21.340 --> 50:21.680
music

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on

50:21.880 --> 50:22.040
there

50:22.040 --> 50:22.260
you

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can

50:22.380 --> 50:22.500
do

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that

50:22.680 --> 50:22.820
a

50:22.820 --> 50:23.080
different

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way

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it's

50:24.940 --> 50:25.060
the

50:25.060 --> 50:25.500
iTunes

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portion

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not

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the

50:26.640 --> 50:26.960
iTunes

50:26.960 --> 50:27.260
music

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store

50:27.580 --> 50:29.420
correct

50:29.420 --> 50:30.620
and

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it's

50:30.780 --> 50:31.060
actually

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I

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believe

50:32.720 --> 50:33.320
the

50:33.320 --> 50:34.060
HME

50:34.060 --> 50:36.500
stuff

50:36.500 --> 50:37.120
allows

50:37.120 --> 50:37.540
you

50:37.540 --> 50:38.040
to

50:38.040 --> 50:39.240
natively

50:39.240 --> 50:39.440
hook

50:39.440 --> 50:39.560
up

50:39.560 --> 50:39.700
to

50:39.700 --> 50:40.120
iTunes

50:40.120 --> 50:40.500
and

50:40.500 --> 50:41.840
use

50:41.840 --> 50:41.960
it

50:41.960 --> 50:42.140
that

50:42.140 --> 50:42.400
way

50:42.400 --> 50:43.760
but

50:43.760 --> 50:43.860
I

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use

50:44.040 --> 50:44.160
a

50:44.160 --> 50:44.460
program

50:44.460 --> 50:44.820
called

50:44.820 --> 50:45.500
Java

50:45.500 --> 50:48.260
HMO

50:48.260 --> 50:48.460
that

50:48.460 --> 50:48.760
actually

50:48.760 --> 50:49.100
allows

50:49.100 --> 50:49.280
me

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to

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add

50:49.640 --> 50:49.800
all

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kinds

50:50.040 --> 50:50.140
of

50:50.140 --> 50:50.540
features

50:50.540 --> 50:52.220
because

50:52.220 --> 50:52.380
it's

50:52.380 --> 50:52.500
got

50:52.500 --> 50:52.640
a

50:52.640 --> 50:52.900
bunch

50:52.900 --> 50:53.060
of

50:53.060 --> 50:53.260
built

50:53.260 --> 50:53.480
in

50:53.480 --> 50:53.840
jar

50:53.840 --> 50:54.300
files

50:54.300 --> 50:55.760
one

50:55.760 --> 50:55.940
of

50:55.940 --> 50:55.960
the

50:55.960 --> 50:56.280
things

50:56.280 --> 50:57.280
that

50:57.280 --> 50:57.540
I

50:57.540 --> 50:58.000
managed

50:58.000 --> 50:58.200
to

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do

50:58.380 --> 50:58.560
with

50:58.560 --> 50:58.780
it

50:58.780 --> 50:59.380
which

50:59.380 --> 50:59.780
isn't

50:59.780 --> 51:00.100
really

51:00.100 --> 51:00.880
that

51:00.880 --> 51:01.080
big

51:01.080 --> 51:01.180
of

51:01.180 --> 51:01.300
a

51:01.300 --> 51:01.500
trick

51:01.500 --> 51:01.660
if

51:01.660 --> 51:01.760
you

51:01.760 --> 51:02.000
know

51:02.000 --> 51:02.620
where

51:02.620 --> 51:02.760
to

51:02.760 --> 51:03.040
look

51:03.040 --> 51:03.800
it's

51:03.800 --> 51:04.140
Java

51:04.140 --> 51:04.540
HMO

51:04.540 --> 51:04.720
it

51:04.720 --> 51:05.060
allows

51:05.060 --> 51:05.260
you

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to

51:05.720 --> 51:06.260
listen

51:06.260 --> 51:06.440
to

51:06.440 --> 51:06.780
streams

51:06.780 --> 51:07.120
now

51:07.120 --> 51:07.820
the

51:07.820 --> 51:10.160
TiVo

51:10.160 --> 51:10.700
Series 2

51:10.700 --> 51:11.040
on its

51:11.040 --> 51:11.260
own

51:11.260 --> 51:11.920
can

51:11.920 --> 51:12.180
listen

51:12.180 --> 51:12.420
to

51:12.420 --> 51:13.120
streaming

51:13.120 --> 51:14.480
mp3s

51:14.480 --> 51:15.180
your

51:15.180 --> 51:15.520
regular

51:15.520 --> 51:16.060
stream

51:16.060 --> 51:16.500
format

51:16.500 --> 51:17.740
the

51:17.740 --> 51:17.960
only

51:17.960 --> 51:18.360
problem

51:18.360 --> 51:18.560
is

51:18.560 --> 51:18.680
it

51:18.680 --> 51:18.820
has

51:18.820 --> 51:18.960
a

51:18.960 --> 51:19.160
real

51:19.160 --> 51:19.580
problem

51:19.580 --> 51:19.980
with

51:19.980 --> 51:20.740
URLs

51:20.740 --> 51:21.000
and

51:21.000 --> 51:21.340
it

51:21.340 --> 51:21.640
chokes

51:21.640 --> 51:22.000
on

51:22.000 --> 51:23.100
any

51:23.100 --> 51:23.360
kind

51:23.360 --> 51:23.460
of

51:23.460 --> 51:23.560
a

51:23.560 --> 51:23.920
URL

51:23.920 --> 51:24.260
that

51:24.260 --> 51:24.840
has

51:24.840 --> 51:25.700
information

51:25.700 --> 51:25.980
after

51:25.980 --> 51:26.160
the

51:26.160 --> 51:26.380
port

51:26.380 --> 51:26.720
number

51:26.720 --> 51:28.680
Java

51:28.680 --> 51:29.320
HMO

51:29.320 --> 51:29.720
had

51:29.720 --> 51:30.400
a

51:30.400 --> 51:30.540
little

51:30.540 --> 51:30.780
jar

51:30.780 --> 51:31.160
program

51:31.160 --> 51:31.540
that

51:31.540 --> 51:32.380
allows

51:32.380 --> 51:32.600
you

51:32.600 --> 51:33.060
to

51:33.060 --> 51:34.760
use

51:34.760 --> 51:34.900
a

51:34.900 --> 51:35.100
full

51:35.100 --> 51:35.580
size

51:35.580 --> 51:36.040
URL

51:36.040 --> 51:36.440
and

51:36.440 --> 51:36.700
also

51:36.700 --> 51:36.900
get

51:36.900 --> 51:37.180
better

51:37.180 --> 51:37.500
stream

51:37.500 --> 51:37.960
quality

51:37.960 --> 51:38.560
because

51:38.560 --> 51:38.680
it

51:38.680 --> 51:38.980
buffers

51:38.980 --> 51:39.100
it

51:39.100 --> 51:39.280
through

51:39.280 --> 51:39.460
your

51:39.460 --> 51:39.840
PC

51:39.840 --> 51:42.460
and

51:42.460 --> 51:42.680
that's

51:42.680 --> 51:42.920
actually

51:42.920 --> 51:43.320
how I

51:43.320 --> 51:43.580
got

51:43.580 --> 51:44.160
binrev

51:44.160 --> 51:45.300
on my

51:45.300 --> 51:45.700
TiVo

51:45.700 --> 51:46.920
yes

51:46.920 --> 51:47.540
so

51:47.540 --> 51:48.000
basically

51:48.000 --> 51:48.400
you can

51:48.400 --> 51:48.620
listen

51:48.620 --> 51:48.780
to

51:48.780 --> 51:49.140
binrev

51:49.140 --> 51:50.260
the

51:50.260 --> 51:50.780
DDP

51:50.780 --> 51:51.100
hack

51:51.100 --> 51:51.400
radio

51:51.400 --> 51:51.820
stream

51:51.820 --> 51:52.500
on

51:52.500 --> 51:52.660
your

51:52.660 --> 51:53.020
TiVo

51:53.020 --> 51:54.100
that's

51:54.100 --> 51:54.520
correct

51:54.520 --> 51:55.800
that's

51:55.800 --> 51:56.000
correct

51:56.000 --> 51:56.760
you

51:56.760 --> 51:57.060
actually

51:57.060 --> 51:57.440
wrote a

51:57.440 --> 51:57.780
letter in

51:57.780 --> 51:57.980
about

51:57.980 --> 51:58.280
this

51:58.280 --> 51:58.480
and

51:58.480 --> 51:59.020
that's

51:59.020 --> 51:59.540
how he

51:59.540 --> 51:59.800
found

51:59.800 --> 52:00.060
you

52:00.060 --> 52:01.200
yes

52:01.200 --> 52:02.280
and

52:02.280 --> 52:02.920
wonderful

52:02.920 --> 52:03.200
ball

52:03.200 --> 52:03.360
was

52:03.360 --> 52:03.580
rolling

52:03.580 --> 52:03.820
to get

52:03.820 --> 52:03.940
you

52:03.940 --> 52:04.080
on

52:04.080 --> 52:04.440
binrev

52:04.440 --> 52:04.760
radio

52:04.760 --> 52:06.800
yeah

52:06.800 --> 52:07.900
I gotta

52:07.900 --> 52:08.180
say

52:08.180 --> 52:08.720
I love

52:08.720 --> 52:09.320
being here

52:09.320 --> 52:11.120
see kids

52:11.120 --> 52:11.580
write us

52:11.580 --> 52:12.220
interesting

52:12.220 --> 52:12.600
articles

52:12.600 --> 52:12.960
and we'll

52:12.960 --> 52:13.320
get you

52:13.320 --> 52:13.520
on the

52:13.520 --> 52:13.760
show

52:13.760 --> 52:15.640
hell yeah

52:15.640 --> 52:16.120
definitely

52:16.120 --> 52:17.220
we're gonna

52:17.220 --> 52:17.600
get flitted

52:17.600 --> 52:18.020
with all

52:18.020 --> 52:18.720
kinds of

52:18.720 --> 52:19.440
non-interesting

52:19.440 --> 52:19.820
articles

52:19.820 --> 52:21.680
but still

52:21.680 --> 52:22.100
but still

52:22.100 --> 52:22.420
send them

52:22.420 --> 52:22.760
on in

52:22.760 --> 52:23.100
I mean

52:23.100 --> 52:23.920
just

52:23.920 --> 52:24.800
send them

52:24.800 --> 52:25.060
on in

52:25.060 --> 52:25.660
we're not

52:25.660 --> 52:25.960
trying to

52:25.960 --> 52:26.400
knock anybody

52:26.400 --> 52:26.660
here

52:26.660 --> 52:28.500
so

52:28.500 --> 52:29.160
okay

52:29.160 --> 52:29.580
so

52:29.580 --> 52:30.020
I mean

52:30.020 --> 52:30.600
I

52:30.600 --> 52:31.200
so I

52:31.200 --> 52:31.520
go out

52:31.520 --> 52:31.680
and I

52:31.680 --> 52:31.920
get my

52:31.920 --> 52:32.780
series 2

52:32.780 --> 52:33.240
TiVo

52:33.240 --> 52:34.000
and

52:34.000 --> 52:35.820
okay

52:35.820 --> 52:36.420
let's

52:36.420 --> 52:36.760
just say

52:36.760 --> 52:37.120
first

52:37.120 --> 52:37.400
like

52:37.400 --> 52:37.640
you know

52:37.640 --> 52:37.840
as

52:37.840 --> 52:38.340
a

52:38.340 --> 52:39.580
normal

52:39.580 --> 52:40.280
you know

52:40.280 --> 52:41.160
clueless

52:41.160 --> 52:41.800
end user

52:41.800 --> 52:42.260
well

52:42.260 --> 52:42.540
I mean

52:42.540 --> 52:42.800
how do

52:42.800 --> 52:43.080
I use

52:43.080 --> 52:43.180
it

52:43.180 --> 52:43.420
what can

52:43.420 --> 52:43.800
I do

52:43.800 --> 52:45.100
blah blah blah

52:45.100 --> 52:45.300
blah

52:45.300 --> 52:46.440
well

52:46.440 --> 52:48.840
your normal

52:48.840 --> 52:49.340
average

52:49.340 --> 52:49.880
series 2

52:49.880 --> 52:50.260
TiVo

52:50.260 --> 52:50.700
that's not

52:50.700 --> 52:50.940
a D

52:50.940 --> 52:51.400
TiVo

52:51.400 --> 52:53.680
unless you

52:53.680 --> 52:54.020
get a really

52:54.020 --> 52:54.480
cool one

52:54.480 --> 52:55.000
doesn't end up

52:55.000 --> 52:55.760
having an

52:55.760 --> 52:56.340
ethernet port

52:56.340 --> 52:56.780
on the back

52:56.780 --> 52:57.040
of it

52:57.040 --> 52:57.660
it has

52:57.660 --> 52:58.360
USB ports

52:58.360 --> 52:58.840
now there's

52:58.840 --> 52:59.460
a list

52:59.460 --> 53:00.220
of

53:00.220 --> 53:01.180
USB

53:01.180 --> 53:01.620
ethernet

53:01.620 --> 53:02.080
adapters

53:02.080 --> 53:02.500
that

53:02.500 --> 53:03.440
the TiVo

53:03.440 --> 53:04.480
has

53:04.480 --> 53:05.720
drivers for

53:05.720 --> 53:09.200
natively

53:09.200 --> 53:09.580
installed

53:09.580 --> 53:10.080
into it

53:10.080 --> 53:11.280
I think

53:11.280 --> 53:11.540
I got

53:11.540 --> 53:12.180
a Hawking

53:12.180 --> 53:13.940
USB 2

53:13.940 --> 53:15.440
ethernet

53:15.440 --> 53:15.960
adapter

53:15.960 --> 53:16.800
on mine

53:16.800 --> 53:17.920
and it

53:17.920 --> 53:18.220
actually

53:18.220 --> 53:18.680
allows me

53:18.680 --> 53:19.000
to hook

53:19.000 --> 53:19.600
up to

53:19.600 --> 53:20.440
the TiVo

53:20.440 --> 53:20.860
service

53:20.860 --> 53:21.440
all the

53:21.440 --> 53:21.760
time

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and

53:22.280 --> 53:22.940
use

53:22.940 --> 53:23.320
the

53:23.320 --> 53:23.780
HMO

53:23.780 --> 53:24.260
and HME

53:24.260 --> 53:24.780
options

53:24.780 --> 53:25.640
your

53:25.640 --> 53:26.000
normal

53:26.000 --> 53:26.320
option

53:26.320 --> 53:26.620
would be

53:26.620 --> 53:26.900
to hook

53:26.900 --> 53:27.100
it up

53:27.100 --> 53:27.360
to a

53:27.360 --> 53:27.580
phone

53:27.580 --> 53:27.820
line

53:27.820 --> 53:28.120
and it

53:28.120 --> 53:28.480
dials

53:28.480 --> 53:28.640
that

53:28.640 --> 53:28.940
whenever

53:28.940 --> 53:29.100
it

53:29.100 --> 53:29.280
needs

53:29.280 --> 53:29.420
to

53:29.420 --> 53:29.820
update

53:29.820 --> 53:34.620
so

53:34.620 --> 53:36.080
you get

53:36.080 --> 53:36.320
yourself

53:36.320 --> 53:36.740
a USB

53:36.740 --> 53:37.600
connector

53:37.600 --> 53:38.760
you plug

53:38.760 --> 53:39.040
it into

53:39.040 --> 53:39.600
your TiVo

53:39.600 --> 53:40.600
and you

53:40.600 --> 53:40.900
get a

53:40.900 --> 53:41.620
whole slew

53:41.620 --> 53:41.920
of new

53:41.920 --> 53:42.420
features

53:42.420 --> 53:43.960
from the

53:43.960 --> 53:44.500
front end

53:44.500 --> 53:45.180
I think

53:45.180 --> 53:46.240
it's

53:46.240 --> 53:48.080
got an

53:48.080 --> 53:48.440
option

53:48.440 --> 53:48.920
to

53:48.920 --> 53:49.700
just

53:49.700 --> 53:50.480
I

53:50.480 --> 53:50.920
forget

53:50.920 --> 53:51.120
what

53:51.120 --> 53:51.260
the

53:51.260 --> 53:51.740
label

53:51.740 --> 53:52.240
of

53:52.240 --> 53:52.660
the

53:52.660 --> 53:53.120
feature

53:53.120 --> 53:53.520
is

53:53.520 --> 53:54.180
but

53:54.180 --> 53:54.360
it'll

53:54.360 --> 53:54.660
say

53:54.660 --> 53:55.960
something

53:55.960 --> 53:56.300
like

53:56.300 --> 53:56.720
TiVo

53:56.720 --> 53:56.980
other

53:56.980 --> 53:57.440
features

53:57.440 --> 53:57.720
or

53:57.720 --> 53:57.920
something

53:57.920 --> 53:58.120
like

53:58.120 --> 53:58.380
that

53:58.380 --> 53:59.760
and

53:59.760 --> 54:00.100
you

54:00.100 --> 54:00.240
can

54:00.240 --> 54:00.540
go into

54:00.540 --> 54:00.700
your

54:00.700 --> 54:01.120
preferences

54:01.120 --> 54:01.640
and say

54:01.640 --> 54:02.060
I'd

54:02.060 --> 54:02.420
like to

54:02.420 --> 54:02.800
use

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non-Tivo

54:03.920 --> 54:04.560
applications

54:04.560 --> 54:05.560
which

54:05.560 --> 54:06.040
will allow

54:06.040 --> 54:06.260
you to

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use

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things

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like

54:07.400 --> 54:08.940
Java

54:08.940 --> 54:09.460
HMO

54:09.460 --> 54:10.860
and you

54:10.860 --> 54:11.120
can run

54:11.120 --> 54:11.360
that on

54:11.360 --> 54:11.460
your

54:11.460 --> 54:11.800
computer

54:11.800 --> 54:12.120
as a

54:12.120 --> 54:12.260
little

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server

54:12.620 --> 54:14.060
on your

54:14.060 --> 54:14.220
own

54:14.220 --> 54:14.600
network

54:14.600 --> 54:15.640
and get

54:15.640 --> 54:16.320
new

54:16.320 --> 54:16.920
stuff

54:16.920 --> 54:17.300
that you

54:17.300 --> 54:17.580
want

54:17.580 --> 54:17.920
on there

54:17.920 --> 54:18.300
as opposed

54:18.300 --> 54:18.600
to what

54:18.600 --> 54:18.880
TiVo

54:18.880 --> 54:19.300
puts on

54:19.300 --> 54:19.500
there

54:19.500 --> 54:21.180
so

54:21.180 --> 54:21.520
basically

54:21.520 --> 54:21.880
you can

54:21.880 --> 54:22.020
run

54:22.020 --> 54:22.160
this

54:22.160 --> 54:22.560
program

54:22.560 --> 54:23.260
on your

54:23.260 --> 54:24.180
I mean

54:24.180 --> 54:24.600
this

54:24.600 --> 54:24.940
technically

54:24.940 --> 54:25.420
really isn't

54:25.420 --> 54:25.520
the

54:25.520 --> 54:25.800
unusual

54:25.800 --> 54:26.020
thing

54:26.020 --> 54:26.240
this is

54:26.240 --> 54:26.560
more like

54:26.560 --> 54:26.860
a power

54:26.860 --> 54:27.040
user

54:27.040 --> 54:27.280
thing

54:27.280 --> 54:27.660
I assume

54:27.660 --> 54:28.420
I mean

54:28.420 --> 54:28.680
I'm not

54:28.680 --> 54:28.880
going to be

54:28.880 --> 54:29.080
able to

54:29.080 --> 54:29.360
tell my

54:29.360 --> 54:29.580
mom

54:29.580 --> 54:29.760
hey

54:29.760 --> 54:30.100
just run

54:30.100 --> 54:30.240
this

54:30.240 --> 54:30.540
Java

54:30.540 --> 54:30.900
applet

54:30.900 --> 54:31.060
and you

54:31.060 --> 54:31.300
can

54:31.300 --> 54:31.860
hack

54:31.860 --> 54:32.020
store

54:32.020 --> 54:32.180
your

54:32.180 --> 54:32.540
TiVo

54:32.540 --> 54:34.280
well

54:34.280 --> 54:35.120
it's

54:35.120 --> 54:35.420
actually

54:35.420 --> 54:35.820
fairly

54:35.820 --> 54:36.120
easy

54:36.120 --> 54:36.640
to use

54:36.640 --> 54:37.040
I mean

54:37.040 --> 54:37.380
if you

54:37.380 --> 54:38.240
plug this

54:38.240 --> 54:38.440
thing

54:38.440 --> 54:38.760
into your

54:38.760 --> 54:39.200
TiVo

54:39.200 --> 54:40.120
turn it

54:40.120 --> 54:40.460
on

54:40.460 --> 54:41.280
plug it

54:41.280 --> 54:41.600
into your

54:41.600 --> 54:41.800
home

54:41.800 --> 54:42.120
network

54:42.120 --> 54:42.440
if you

54:42.440 --> 54:42.720
got a

54:42.720 --> 54:42.940
little

54:42.940 --> 54:45.060
I want

54:45.060 --> 54:45.280
to say

54:45.280 --> 54:45.480
home

54:45.480 --> 54:45.920
gateway

54:45.920 --> 54:48.480
and your

54:48.480 --> 54:48.900
computer's

54:48.900 --> 54:49.100
on the

54:49.100 --> 54:49.260
home

54:49.260 --> 54:49.520
gateway

54:49.520 --> 54:49.800
yeah

54:49.800 --> 54:50.120
you just

54:50.120 --> 54:50.300
run

54:50.300 --> 54:50.460
this

54:50.460 --> 54:50.920
program

54:50.920 --> 54:52.400
I think

54:52.400 --> 54:53.080
it

54:53.080 --> 54:53.580
will

54:53.580 --> 54:54.020
actually

54:54.020 --> 54:54.660
put

54:54.660 --> 54:54.960
its

54:54.960 --> 54:55.580
settings

54:55.580 --> 54:56.000
into the

54:56.000 --> 54:56.240
Windows

54:56.240 --> 54:56.620
firewall

54:56.620 --> 54:57.260
for you

54:57.260 --> 54:57.860
if you

54:57.860 --> 54:58.120
have

54:58.120 --> 54:58.700
somebody

54:58.700 --> 54:59.000
who doesn't

54:59.000 --> 54:59.320
really know

54:59.320 --> 54:59.520
what they're

54:59.520 --> 54:59.680
doing

54:59.680 --> 54:59.940
like

54:59.940 --> 55:00.700
Windows

55:00.700 --> 55:01.040
users

55:01.040 --> 55:01.440
generally

55:01.440 --> 55:01.760
do

55:01.760 --> 55:06.340
universal

55:06.340 --> 55:06.760
plug and

55:06.760 --> 55:06.960
pray

55:06.960 --> 55:08.600
that thing

55:08.600 --> 55:09.100
scares me

55:09.100 --> 55:09.580
to no end

55:09.580 --> 55:11.240
well

55:11.240 --> 55:12.240
it's not

55:12.240 --> 55:12.700
as bad

55:12.700 --> 55:13.060
as it

55:13.060 --> 55:13.500
sounded

55:13.500 --> 55:13.860
when it

55:13.860 --> 55:14.080
first

55:14.080 --> 55:14.500
came out

55:14.500 --> 55:14.660
the

55:14.660 --> 55:15.020
universal

55:15.020 --> 55:15.400
plug and

55:15.400 --> 55:15.580
play

55:15.580 --> 55:15.820
sounded

55:15.820 --> 55:16.120
pretty

55:16.120 --> 55:16.440
bad

55:16.440 --> 55:16.540
and

55:16.540 --> 55:16.680
that

55:16.680 --> 55:16.840
was

55:16.840 --> 55:17.280
scared

55:17.280 --> 55:17.460
as

55:17.460 --> 55:17.680
hell

55:17.680 --> 55:20.580
well

55:20.580 --> 55:20.940
it

55:20.940 --> 55:21.380
made

55:21.380 --> 55:21.540
some

55:21.540 --> 55:21.860
improvement

55:21.860 --> 55:22.200
but let's

55:22.200 --> 55:22.420
not go

55:22.420 --> 55:22.700
over there

55:22.700 --> 55:22.940
so

55:22.940 --> 55:23.320
basically

55:23.320 --> 55:23.660
I can

55:23.660 --> 55:23.820
run

55:23.820 --> 55:24.000
this

55:24.000 --> 55:24.140
little

55:24.140 --> 55:24.440
program

55:24.440 --> 55:24.600
I

55:24.600 --> 55:25.320
get

55:25.320 --> 55:25.520
my

55:25.520 --> 55:25.920
Kivo

55:25.920 --> 55:27.800
if it

55:27.800 --> 55:28.060
doesn't

55:28.060 --> 55:28.300
have

55:28.300 --> 55:28.540
an

55:28.540 --> 55:28.880
ethernet

55:28.880 --> 55:29.080
port

55:29.080 --> 55:29.360
I get

55:29.360 --> 55:29.500
my

55:29.500 --> 55:30.140
USB

55:30.140 --> 55:30.700
adapter

55:30.700 --> 55:31.220
I plug

55:31.220 --> 55:31.320
it

55:31.320 --> 55:31.580
into my

55:31.580 --> 55:31.880
network

55:31.880 --> 55:32.120
and I

55:32.120 --> 55:32.400
just run

55:32.400 --> 55:32.540
this

55:32.540 --> 55:32.780
program

55:32.780 --> 55:32.980
on my

55:32.980 --> 55:33.260
computer

55:33.260 --> 55:33.880
and I

55:33.880 --> 55:34.060
can

55:34.060 --> 55:34.880
push

55:34.880 --> 55:35.280
software

55:35.280 --> 55:35.620
out to

55:35.620 --> 55:35.800
it

55:35.800 --> 55:37.560
there's

55:37.560 --> 55:38.000
one other

55:38.000 --> 55:39.500
setting you have to change in your TiVo

55:39.500 --> 55:41.640
and that's how it dials out

55:41.640 --> 55:48.300
your TiVo is normally set to make all of its calls through the telephone line

55:48.300 --> 55:52.920
but once you plug in that USB adapter you have another option to select

55:52.920 --> 55:59.480
I believe it's a Mac address will appear on the screen where you choose your connection

55:59.480 --> 56:07.040
and you say I want to use the Ethernet connection and you can and boom you've got that program running

56:07.040 --> 56:13.380
on your computer you've got TiVo connecting to the TiVo service through your home gateway

56:13.380 --> 56:15.940
and it's all green from there

56:15.940 --> 56:16.980
and it's all green from there

56:16.980 --> 56:18.220
hot damn

56:18.220 --> 56:29.120
yeah there's actually a large number of programs that do just that and allow you to add features with HMO and HME stuff

56:29.120 --> 56:33.820
there's one that just stopped development called Galleon

56:33.820 --> 56:44.940
and I think it was supposed to be another very pretty front-ended MP3 listening program for your TiVo

56:44.940 --> 56:50.540
but there's other features that TiVo has on their license here

56:50.540 --> 56:54.960
I'm going to ask you a random question here

56:54.960 --> 56:56.340
I'm not even sure if you're going to be answering it

56:56.340 --> 56:59.860
so I have my TiVo and I have my USB cable

56:59.860 --> 57:06.240
and I'm not interested in paying TiVos per month TiVo service

57:06.240 --> 57:07.940
you know get the listings from us

57:07.940 --> 57:10.000
is there a way around that

57:10.000 --> 57:13.420
because I know there's like XML TV and XML TV2

57:13.420 --> 57:16.600
and all those stuff like you know Myth TV uses

57:16.600 --> 57:21.200
and Freevo which are open source PBRs you run on your computer

57:21.200 --> 57:25.520
I'm curious if anyone's actually started hacking TiVos to use that type of service

57:25.520 --> 57:29.600
so you don't need to use the 4Pay one that TiVo provides

57:29.600 --> 57:34.580
they have and that actually takes a little more hacking skills

57:34.580 --> 57:38.580
you have to get into the actual TiVo operating system

57:38.580 --> 57:42.440
change some settings and say hey I don't want to look at the TiVo service

57:42.440 --> 57:47.140
I want to look at this service over here for my guide etc

57:47.140 --> 57:51.960
and I want to turn off you know updating from TiVo

57:51.960 --> 57:54.060
you have to tell it not to call in

57:54.060 --> 57:56.120
otherwise it'll call in and they'll say oh my god

57:56.120 --> 57:57.520
you don't have any TiVo service

57:57.520 --> 57:59.420
and it'll be kind of a pain in the butt

57:59.420 --> 58:02.180
oh my god no TiVo

58:02.180 --> 58:05.780
so okay so you can use that kind of stuff

58:05.780 --> 58:07.300
okay this actually sounds interesting

58:07.300 --> 58:09.780
and I may actually want to do it

58:09.780 --> 58:14.880
so I mean we're starting to go into like you know power user type things here

58:14.880 --> 58:21.820
so like you were talking about you can start playing stuff on your computer

58:21.820 --> 58:24.520
from your recording TiVo through mPlayer

58:24.520 --> 58:29.140
yeah you can if you have mPlayer on your computer

58:29.140 --> 58:33.060
I think there's a couple of add-ons or codecs

58:33.060 --> 58:34.420
I forget which exactly

58:34.420 --> 58:38.280
I've been trying to get mPlayer to compile under SIG-WIN on my machine

58:38.280 --> 58:40.140
and having a little trouble with the newest versions

58:40.140 --> 58:43.860
but it will play

58:43.860 --> 58:46.600
it will stream directly from your TiVo

58:46.600 --> 58:51.860
and your TiVo will show listings for any program that's recording

58:51.860 --> 58:56.020
and you can download as much of the mPeg as it already has

58:56.020 --> 59:00.120
so being that you can stream from it

59:00.120 --> 59:02.540
if you have decent latency from your TiVo

59:02.540 --> 59:05.740
you can just fire up mPlayer

59:05.740 --> 59:10.000
and tell it to stream from your TiVo's stream drive

59:10.000 --> 59:10.880
or yeah

59:10.880 --> 59:11.820
all right

59:11.820 --> 59:14.060
stream drive HTTP directory

59:14.060 --> 59:19.100
okay so

59:19.100 --> 59:19.880
okay so

59:19.880 --> 59:22.740
how about I mean we can stream it while it's recording

59:22.740 --> 59:23.700
and we can stream it afterwards

59:23.700 --> 59:25.760
what happens if say I

59:25.760 --> 59:27.300
recorded my

59:27.300 --> 59:28.540
you know I don't know

59:28.540 --> 59:31.780
let's say Strom recorded Days of Our Lives

59:31.780 --> 59:34.000
because he's a big Days of Our Life fan

59:34.000 --> 59:35.200
and um

59:35.200 --> 59:37.740
yeah

59:37.740 --> 59:39.320
me and soap operas

59:39.320 --> 59:39.900
uh

59:39.900 --> 59:40.400
uh

59:40.400 --> 59:42.320
let's say I recorded the Olympics

59:42.320 --> 59:43.640
all right

59:43.640 --> 59:44.000
all right

59:44.000 --> 59:47.500
let's say Strom recorded figure skating

59:47.500 --> 59:48.140
yeah

59:48.140 --> 59:48.620
there we go

59:48.620 --> 59:50.420
of TV

59:50.420 --> 59:51.400
yeah

59:51.400 --> 59:53.780
he wants

59:53.780 --> 59:54.560
he wants to see

59:54.560 --> 59:55.040
um

59:55.040 --> 59:55.640
shoot

59:55.640 --> 59:56.220
what's his name

59:56.220 --> 59:57.420
Scott Weir

59:57.420 --> 59:57.980
Johnny Weir

59:57.980 --> 59:58.960
I don't know

59:58.960 --> 59:59.780
he wants to see

59:59.780 --> 01:00:01.080
I want to see uh

01:00:01.080 --> 01:00:01.880
Apollo uh

01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:02.180
what's his name

01:00:02.180 --> 01:00:03.400
Apollo Anton Ono uh

01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:04.460
doing the speed skating thing

01:00:04.460 --> 01:00:05.060
oh that's a speed skating

01:00:05.060 --> 01:00:05.280
there we go

01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:07.020
he has a speed skating recorded

01:00:07.020 --> 01:00:09.300
is there a way that he can archive that

01:00:09.300 --> 01:00:09.920
on his computer

01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:10.440
like you know

01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:11.100
you know

01:00:11.100 --> 01:00:12.460
convert it over to an MPEG

01:00:12.460 --> 01:00:13.500
or you know

01:00:13.500 --> 01:00:14.500
suck it down to uh

01:00:14.500 --> 01:00:15.260
just a file

01:00:15.260 --> 01:00:16.580
where he converted over to DivX

01:00:16.580 --> 01:00:18.220
or converted DivX on the fly

01:00:18.220 --> 01:00:20.640
is there a way that you can actually archive that

01:00:20.640 --> 01:00:21.600
take it off the TiVo

01:00:21.600 --> 01:00:22.800
and then save it on your computer

01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:24.100
absolutely

01:00:24.100 --> 01:00:26.100
oh awesome

01:00:26.100 --> 01:00:27.780
yeah absolutely

01:00:27.780 --> 01:00:28.540
there uh

01:00:28.540 --> 01:00:31.380
the TiVo actually offers a program

01:00:31.380 --> 01:00:33.020
that they call TiVo2Go

01:00:33.020 --> 01:00:35.040
and all it is

01:00:35.040 --> 01:00:37.340
is a front end to uh

01:00:37.340 --> 01:00:39.020
a TiVo web service

01:00:39.020 --> 01:00:40.900
it just hosts

01:00:40.900 --> 01:00:43.180
all of these files via HTTP

01:00:43.180 --> 01:00:46.560
and you can go download them

01:00:46.560 --> 01:00:48.460
the only trouble that you're going to have

01:00:48.460 --> 01:00:50.640
is you have to log into the HTTP service

01:00:50.640 --> 01:00:52.720
using your media access key

01:00:52.720 --> 01:00:54.960
which is uh

01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:56.280
something that's

01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:57.160
given to you

01:00:57.160 --> 01:00:58.000
with your TiVo

01:00:58.000 --> 01:00:59.180
it's a little number

01:00:59.180 --> 01:01:00.480
that's usually on the back

01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:00.760
or

01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:02.160
on the box

01:01:02.160 --> 01:01:03.240
that the TiVo came in

01:01:03.240 --> 01:01:04.820
and it also uh

01:01:04.820 --> 01:01:06.960
encrypts the MPEG-2 files

01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:07.860
with that

01:01:07.860 --> 01:01:08.580
uh

01:01:08.580 --> 01:01:08.940
key

01:01:08.940 --> 01:01:10.020
media access key

01:01:10.020 --> 01:01:10.660
which makes

01:01:10.660 --> 01:01:11.820
uh

01:01:11.820 --> 01:01:12.920
watching them

01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:14.300
without TiVo

01:01:14.300 --> 01:01:15.300
a little tough

01:01:15.300 --> 01:01:17.840
but uh

01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:19.360
is there a way to remove that encryption

01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:21.240
has anyone attempted to do that yet?

01:01:21.240 --> 01:01:23.480
absolutely a way to remove that

01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:23.860
um

01:01:23.860 --> 01:01:25.260
the

01:01:25.260 --> 01:01:25.620
wow okay

01:01:25.620 --> 01:01:27.500
the encryption that it is

01:01:27.500 --> 01:01:29.200
isn't really all that tough

01:01:29.200 --> 01:01:29.980
um

01:01:29.980 --> 01:01:30.520
it just

01:01:30.520 --> 01:01:32.340
screws up the MPEG-2

01:01:32.340 --> 01:01:33.480
native codec

01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:34.960
and it's just

01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:35.960
a little addition

01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:36.880
on the very beginning

01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:37.900
of the MPEG-2

01:01:37.900 --> 01:01:38.600
uh

01:01:38.600 --> 01:01:39.320
you can

01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:40.880
usually remove that

01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:41.180
with

01:01:41.180 --> 01:01:43.200
a number of programs

01:01:43.200 --> 01:01:43.720
I have

01:01:43.720 --> 01:01:45.160
on my machine

01:01:45.160 --> 01:01:46.340
uh

01:01:46.340 --> 01:01:46.960
you can also

01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:48.100
use it with a

01:01:48.100 --> 01:01:48.480
um

01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:49.640
direct text dump

01:01:49.640 --> 01:01:51.240
you can cut that

01:01:51.240 --> 01:01:52.480
out of the MPEG-2

01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:53.900
but uh

01:01:53.900 --> 01:01:54.620
one of the things

01:01:54.620 --> 01:01:55.640
that people like to do

01:01:55.640 --> 01:01:56.660
when they hack their TiVo

01:01:56.660 --> 01:01:58.040
is remove that

01:01:58.040 --> 01:01:58.980
from uh

01:01:58.980 --> 01:02:00.660
from

01:02:00.660 --> 01:02:02.020
being added

01:02:02.020 --> 01:02:02.840
to the file

01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:04.320
as it records

01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:06.120
so

01:02:06.120 --> 01:02:06.580
so wait

01:02:06.580 --> 01:02:07.040
you can actually

01:02:07.040 --> 01:02:07.780
tell your TiVo

01:02:07.780 --> 01:02:08.680
or like you know

01:02:08.680 --> 01:02:09.020
you know

01:02:09.020 --> 01:02:09.940
basically you can

01:02:09.940 --> 01:02:10.540
take your TiVo

01:02:10.540 --> 01:02:10.960
and say

01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:11.720
and you know

01:02:11.720 --> 01:02:12.280
patch it

01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:12.940
so that it says

01:02:12.940 --> 01:02:13.560
you know

01:02:13.560 --> 01:02:14.500
when you're recording stuff

01:02:14.500 --> 01:02:15.700
don't use this media access

01:02:15.700 --> 01:02:16.220
key nonsense

01:02:16.220 --> 01:02:18.020
just flat out

01:02:18.020 --> 01:02:19.060
and record it

01:02:19.060 --> 01:02:19.800
straight to MPEG-2

01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:21.100
yeah

01:02:21.100 --> 01:02:22.120
you can do

01:02:22.120 --> 01:02:22.820
just about anything

01:02:22.820 --> 01:02:23.380
you want to do

01:02:23.380 --> 01:02:24.020
with your TiVo

01:02:24.020 --> 01:02:24.760
it's uh

01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:25.560
holy crap

01:02:25.560 --> 01:02:26.740
it's a

01:02:26.740 --> 01:02:27.560
Unix based

01:02:27.560 --> 01:02:28.680
operating system

01:02:28.680 --> 01:02:29.920
I think the current

01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:30.400
kernel is

01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:30.740
isn't it

01:02:30.740 --> 01:02:31.240
yeah

01:02:31.240 --> 01:02:31.860
yeah

01:02:31.860 --> 01:02:34.140
yes it is

01:02:34.140 --> 01:02:35.220
it's been that way

01:02:35.220 --> 01:02:35.820
for God

01:02:35.820 --> 01:02:36.600
since it came out

01:02:36.600 --> 01:02:36.800
yeah

01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:38.460
well he said

01:02:38.460 --> 01:02:39.060
Unix based

01:02:39.060 --> 01:02:39.680
so I was like

01:02:39.680 --> 01:02:40.240
I'm sorry

01:02:40.240 --> 01:02:40.660
it was Linux

01:02:40.660 --> 01:02:40.900
but

01:02:40.900 --> 01:02:42.020
no it's

01:02:42.020 --> 01:02:42.660
it's Linux

01:02:42.660 --> 01:02:43.140
I'm sorry

01:02:43.140 --> 01:02:43.400
I

01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:44.400
no no problem

01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:44.700
no problem

01:02:44.700 --> 01:02:45.060
I was just

01:02:45.060 --> 01:02:45.840
I can say the other

01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:47.480
okay

01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:48.880
all the

01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:49.520
here's Linux

01:02:49.520 --> 01:02:49.900
all the

01:02:49.900 --> 01:02:53.040
yeah yeah yeah

01:02:53.040 --> 01:02:53.960
Linux traveled

01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:54.820
and all his

01:02:54.820 --> 01:02:56.060
you know

01:02:56.060 --> 01:02:57.040
followers

01:02:57.040 --> 01:02:58.480
what have you

01:02:58.480 --> 01:02:59.020
okay

01:02:59.020 --> 01:03:00.900
so

01:03:00.900 --> 01:03:02.360
so I remember

01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:02.740
I remember

01:03:02.740 --> 01:03:03.820
is there any other

01:03:03.820 --> 01:03:04.320
like you know

01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:05.240
fun things

01:03:05.240 --> 01:03:05.640
that are just

01:03:05.640 --> 01:03:06.120
neat hacks

01:03:06.120 --> 01:03:06.400
that you just

01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:07.000
want to get out here

01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:07.420
because you

01:03:07.420 --> 01:03:08.240
I mean you also

01:03:08.240 --> 01:03:09.020
said along the lines

01:03:09.020 --> 01:03:09.520
of uh

01:03:09.520 --> 01:03:11.360
direct TV

01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:12.540
TiVos are cool

01:03:12.540 --> 01:03:13.140
and I'm just

01:03:13.140 --> 01:03:13.940
curious why

01:03:13.940 --> 01:03:15.180
okay

01:03:15.180 --> 01:03:15.960
direct TV

01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:16.900
TiVos are cool

01:03:16.900 --> 01:03:17.980
and here's why

01:03:17.980 --> 01:03:18.800
direct TV

01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:19.420
TiVos are the

01:03:19.420 --> 01:03:20.400
only PBR that

01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:21.140
we have right

01:03:21.140 --> 01:03:21.660
now that are

01:03:21.660 --> 01:03:22.240
at a decent

01:03:22.240 --> 01:03:22.840
cost

01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:23.660
and you can

01:03:23.660 --> 01:03:24.400
record HD

01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:25.260
programming on

01:03:25.260 --> 01:03:27.520
however

01:03:27.520 --> 01:03:29.100
it's kind of a

01:03:29.100 --> 01:03:29.460
bitch

01:03:29.460 --> 01:03:30.200
because they're

01:03:30.200 --> 01:03:30.720
set up for

01:03:30.720 --> 01:03:31.240
satellites

01:03:31.240 --> 01:03:33.400
so you have

01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:33.980
to hack the

01:03:33.980 --> 01:03:34.680
crap out of

01:03:34.680 --> 01:03:35.060
them to get

01:03:35.060 --> 01:03:35.460
them to work

01:03:35.460 --> 01:03:35.960
on a cable

01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:36.440
connection

01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:37.640
or just record

01:03:37.640 --> 01:03:38.760
analog programming

01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:42.560
and you have

01:03:42.560 --> 01:03:43.180
to hack the

01:03:43.180 --> 01:03:43.720
crap out of

01:03:43.720 --> 01:03:44.120
them to get

01:03:44.120 --> 01:03:45.900
the HMO

01:03:45.900 --> 01:03:47.660
HMO

01:03:47.660 --> 01:03:48.160
HME

01:03:48.160 --> 01:03:49.400
service on

01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:49.540
them

01:03:49.540 --> 01:03:50.220
because TiVo

01:03:50.220 --> 01:03:50.800
was supposed

01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:51.520
to add that

01:03:51.520 --> 01:03:52.960
never did

01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:53.540
and has

01:03:53.540 --> 01:03:54.960
since discontinued

01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:55.560
their support

01:03:55.560 --> 01:03:55.940
for it

01:03:55.940 --> 01:03:56.280
so they're

01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:56.620
not ever

01:03:56.620 --> 01:03:57.160
going to

01:03:57.160 --> 01:04:00.540
so you

01:04:00.540 --> 01:04:01.200
actually have

01:04:01.200 --> 01:04:02.000
to go out

01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:02.260
and get

01:04:02.260 --> 01:04:03.540
standalone TiVo

01:04:03.540 --> 01:04:04.500
operating system

01:04:04.500 --> 01:04:05.340
and hack that

01:04:05.340 --> 01:04:05.820
so that it

01:04:05.820 --> 01:04:06.400
can work with

01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:06.940
your RID

01:04:06.940 --> 01:04:08.360
and the

01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:09.020
Direct TV

01:04:09.020 --> 01:04:09.540
service

01:04:09.540 --> 01:04:10.340
all kinds

01:04:10.340 --> 01:04:10.680
of crazy

01:04:10.680 --> 01:04:11.120
stuff

01:04:11.120 --> 01:04:14.860
but it's

01:04:14.860 --> 01:04:15.200
nice

01:04:15.200 --> 01:04:16.320
it is nice

01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:16.820
that you can

01:04:16.820 --> 01:04:17.680
save

01:04:17.680 --> 01:04:19.620
Direct TV

01:04:19.620 --> 01:04:20.280
programs

01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:20.920
in HD

01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:21.300
format

01:04:21.300 --> 01:04:21.740
on your

01:04:21.740 --> 01:04:22.080
machine

01:04:22.080 --> 01:04:22.980
so you've

01:04:22.980 --> 01:04:23.220
got to

01:04:23.220 --> 01:04:23.620
leg up

01:04:23.620 --> 01:04:23.940
on just

01:04:23.940 --> 01:04:24.160
about

01:04:24.160 --> 01:04:24.440
anybody

01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:24.740
else

01:04:24.740 --> 01:04:25.220
out there

01:04:25.220 --> 01:04:28.960
and I

01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:29.320
gotta say

01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:29.740
I mean

01:04:29.740 --> 01:04:31.140
this is

01:04:31.140 --> 01:04:31.300
pretty

01:04:31.300 --> 01:04:31.460
mean

01:04:31.460 --> 01:04:31.700
even

01:04:31.700 --> 01:04:32.360
for the

01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:34.040
you're

01:04:34.040 --> 01:04:34.540
talking

01:04:34.540 --> 01:04:34.780
about

01:04:34.780 --> 01:04:35.400
you know

01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:37.680
Direct TV

01:04:37.680 --> 01:04:37.920
with

01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:38.880
you gotta

01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:39.180
hack the

01:04:39.180 --> 01:04:39.460
crap out

01:04:39.460 --> 01:04:39.580
of them

01:04:39.580 --> 01:04:39.860
but still

01:04:39.860 --> 01:04:40.280
they record

01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:40.600
HD

01:04:40.600 --> 01:04:40.960
which is

01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:41.360
amazing

01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:42.260
and while

01:04:42.260 --> 01:04:42.480
you were

01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:42.880
talking about

01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:43.460
I quickly

01:04:43.460 --> 01:04:43.920
pulled up

01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:44.120
eBay

01:04:44.120 --> 01:04:44.420
and I

01:04:44.420 --> 01:04:44.560
said

01:04:44.560 --> 01:04:44.820
wow

01:04:44.820 --> 01:04:45.380
TiVos

01:04:45.380 --> 01:04:45.700
are actually

01:04:45.700 --> 01:04:46.160
pretty nice

01:04:46.160 --> 01:04:46.420
I might

01:04:46.420 --> 01:04:47.220
scrap my

01:04:47.220 --> 01:04:47.680
ID for

01:04:47.680 --> 01:04:48.160
a Myth TV

01:04:48.160 --> 01:04:48.540
box

01:04:48.540 --> 01:04:48.820
and just

01:04:48.820 --> 01:04:50.320
pull a

01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:50.580
TiVo

01:04:50.580 --> 01:04:50.840
out

01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:51.640
and go

01:04:51.640 --> 01:04:52.100
do that

01:04:52.100 --> 01:04:53.480
and they're

01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:54.140
just incredibly

01:04:54.140 --> 01:04:54.500
cheap

01:04:54.500 --> 01:04:54.980
I'm seeing

01:04:54.980 --> 01:04:55.400
stuff that's

01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:56.100
like $25

01:04:56.100 --> 01:04:56.800
$50

01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:57.480
I mean

01:04:57.480 --> 01:04:57.780
the most

01:04:57.780 --> 01:04:58.120
expensive

01:04:58.120 --> 01:04:58.460
ones I'm

01:04:58.460 --> 01:04:58.720
seeing

01:04:58.720 --> 01:04:58.980
that are

01:04:58.980 --> 01:04:59.360
going in

01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:01.280
an hour

01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:01.640
or so

01:05:01.640 --> 01:05:02.140
are like

01:05:02.140 --> 01:05:02.760
$125

01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:03.500
and those

01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:03.820
are

01:05:03.820 --> 01:05:05.260
stuff that's

01:05:05.260 --> 01:05:05.740
all modded

01:05:05.740 --> 01:05:06.140
already

01:05:06.140 --> 01:05:07.060
right

01:05:07.060 --> 01:05:07.520
and one of

01:05:07.520 --> 01:05:07.720
the most

01:05:07.720 --> 01:05:08.040
common

01:05:08.040 --> 01:05:08.560
mods to

01:05:08.560 --> 01:05:08.880
make to

01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:09.260
your TiVo

01:05:09.260 --> 01:05:09.620
is actually

01:05:09.620 --> 01:05:09.940
to throw

01:05:09.940 --> 01:05:10.460
bigger hard

01:05:10.460 --> 01:05:10.840
drives in

01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:11.000
it

01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:12.260
from what I

01:05:12.260 --> 01:05:12.700
understand

01:05:12.700 --> 01:05:13.420
the most

01:05:13.420 --> 01:05:13.980
space that

01:05:13.980 --> 01:05:14.280
you can

01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:14.860
get in

01:05:14.860 --> 01:05:15.900
a TiVo

01:05:15.900 --> 01:05:16.680
right now

01:05:16.680 --> 01:05:18.380
is

01:05:18.380 --> 01:05:20.000
300 gigs

01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:20.820
I think

01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:21.240
that's the

01:05:21.240 --> 01:05:21.600
max

01:05:21.600 --> 01:05:22.300
is that the

01:05:22.300 --> 01:05:22.500
max

01:05:22.500 --> 01:05:22.940
technically

01:05:22.940 --> 01:05:23.200
or the

01:05:23.200 --> 01:05:23.420
maximum

01:05:23.420 --> 01:05:23.640
and how

01:05:23.640 --> 01:05:24.040
much

01:05:24.040 --> 01:05:24.300
should that

01:05:24.300 --> 01:05:24.600
actually

01:05:24.600 --> 01:05:25.000
record

01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:27.060
that's

01:05:27.060 --> 01:05:28.260
the max

01:05:28.260 --> 01:05:29.700
of the

01:05:29.700 --> 01:05:30.100
hard drives

01:05:30.100 --> 01:05:30.320
that it

01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:31.100
will recognize

01:05:31.100 --> 01:05:31.940
I think

01:05:31.940 --> 01:05:32.180
there's

01:05:32.180 --> 01:05:32.340
some

01:05:32.340 --> 01:05:32.700
other

01:05:32.700 --> 01:05:34.920
nicer

01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:35.720
ones

01:05:35.720 --> 01:05:36.680
what

01:05:36.680 --> 01:05:37.260
company

01:05:37.260 --> 01:05:37.520
is that

01:05:37.520 --> 01:05:37.700
from

01:05:37.700 --> 01:05:38.240
Humax

01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:39.240
that

01:05:39.240 --> 01:05:39.620
will

01:05:39.620 --> 01:05:39.940
actually

01:05:39.940 --> 01:05:40.540
support

01:05:40.540 --> 01:05:42.280
300

01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:43.000
gigabyte

01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:43.740
hard drives

01:05:43.740 --> 01:05:44.200
and it

01:05:44.200 --> 01:05:44.660
has

01:05:44.660 --> 01:05:45.500
master

01:05:45.500 --> 01:05:45.960
and slave

01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:47.220
for one

01:05:47.220 --> 01:05:47.540
IDE

01:05:47.540 --> 01:05:47.960
channel

01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:48.840
so you

01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:49.160
can throw

01:05:49.160 --> 01:05:49.780
two 300

01:05:49.780 --> 01:05:50.260
gig hard

01:05:50.260 --> 01:05:50.560
drives in

01:05:50.560 --> 01:05:50.660
there

01:05:50.660 --> 01:05:50.900
but I'm

01:05:50.900 --> 01:05:51.400
not sure

01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:52.060
about that

01:05:52.060 --> 01:05:54.040
so you

01:05:54.040 --> 01:05:54.360
can get

01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:54.660
a shit

01:05:54.660 --> 01:05:54.900
load of

01:05:54.900 --> 01:05:55.320
okay

01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:56.300
so you

01:05:56.300 --> 01:05:57.160
can maximally

01:05:57.160 --> 01:05:57.540
put a

01:05:57.540 --> 01:05:58.200
300 gig

01:05:58.200 --> 01:05:58.620
hard drive

01:05:58.620 --> 01:05:58.960
in there

01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.540
what's the

01:06:02.540 --> 01:06:03.020
highest

01:06:03.020 --> 01:06:04.340
stock

01:06:04.340 --> 01:06:04.820
hard drive

01:06:04.820 --> 01:06:05.100
it comes

01:06:05.100 --> 01:06:05.360
with

01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:07.680
I think

01:06:07.680 --> 01:06:08.220
120

01:06:08.220 --> 01:06:08.600
is the

01:06:08.600 --> 01:06:08.900
max

01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:09.280
stock

01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:09.700
hard drive

01:06:09.700 --> 01:06:09.960
that it

01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:10.060
will

01:06:10.060 --> 01:06:10.340
actually

01:06:10.340 --> 01:06:10.640
come

01:06:10.640 --> 01:06:10.960
with

01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:12.580
okay

01:06:12.580 --> 01:06:12.900
and how

01:06:12.900 --> 01:06:13.360
many

01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:14.700
hours

01:06:14.700 --> 01:06:15.200
does that

01:06:15.200 --> 01:06:15.460
usually

01:06:15.460 --> 01:06:15.880
record

01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:17.860
on the

01:06:17.860 --> 01:06:18.160
best

01:06:18.160 --> 01:06:18.660
quality

01:06:18.660 --> 01:06:19.220
recordings

01:06:19.220 --> 01:06:19.500
because you

01:06:19.500 --> 01:06:19.880
can actually

01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:20.320
choose

01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:20.840
quality

01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:21.340
from

01:06:21.340 --> 01:06:22.440
within

01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:22.660
your

01:06:22.660 --> 01:06:22.940
TiVo

01:06:22.940 --> 01:06:23.220
and tell

01:06:23.220 --> 01:06:23.660
it how

01:06:23.660 --> 01:06:24.180
high of

01:06:24.180 --> 01:06:24.540
a quality

01:06:24.540 --> 01:06:24.840
you want

01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:25.380
to record

01:06:25.380 --> 01:06:27.160
I believe

01:06:27.160 --> 01:06:28.920
it's

01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:31.620
let's see

01:06:31.620 --> 01:06:31.880
I have a

01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:32.320
40 hour

01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:32.680
TiVo

01:06:32.680 --> 01:06:32.940
that I

01:06:32.940 --> 01:06:33.240
need to

01:06:33.240 --> 01:06:33.460
mod

01:06:33.460 --> 01:06:33.740
and throw

01:06:33.740 --> 01:06:33.920
a new

01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:34.280
hard drive

01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:34.460
in

01:06:34.460 --> 01:06:36.340
it records

01:06:36.340 --> 01:06:37.860
something like

01:06:37.860 --> 01:06:38.720
40 gigs

01:06:38.720 --> 01:06:39.040
is something

01:06:39.040 --> 01:06:39.760
like 12

01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:40.160
hours

01:06:40.160 --> 01:06:42.780
recording

01:06:42.780 --> 01:06:43.320
service

01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:44.580
so it

01:06:44.580 --> 01:06:44.720
would be

01:06:44.720 --> 01:06:45.060
300

01:06:45.060 --> 01:06:45.360
gigabytes

01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:45.660
would be

01:06:45.660 --> 01:06:46.260
about

01:06:46.260 --> 01:06:47.960
that's a

01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:48.240
pretty good

01:06:48.240 --> 01:06:48.420
thing

01:06:48.420 --> 01:06:48.620
that would

01:06:48.620 --> 01:06:48.740
be

01:06:48.740 --> 01:06:50.020
about

01:06:50.020 --> 01:06:50.360
at least

01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:51.180
two days

01:06:51.180 --> 01:06:51.620
or something

01:06:51.620 --> 01:06:52.740
exactly

01:06:52.740 --> 01:06:55.600
and I

01:06:55.600 --> 01:06:57.100
actually have

01:06:57.100 --> 01:06:57.540
a DVD

01:06:57.540 --> 01:06:57.960
burner

01:06:57.960 --> 01:06:58.680
in my

01:06:58.680 --> 01:06:59.120
TiVo

01:06:59.120 --> 01:07:02.200
you can

01:07:02.200 --> 01:07:02.720
actually put

01:07:02.720 --> 01:07:03.060
a DVD

01:07:03.060 --> 01:07:03.380
burner

01:07:03.380 --> 01:07:03.680
in your

01:07:03.680 --> 01:07:03.980
TiVo

01:07:03.980 --> 01:07:04.960
yeah

01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:06.040
it actually

01:07:06.040 --> 01:07:06.720
came with

01:07:06.720 --> 01:07:07.000
it

01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:07.880
but I'm

01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:08.060
going to

01:07:08.060 --> 01:07:08.420
mod it

01:07:08.420 --> 01:07:08.840
so that I

01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:09.580
can use

01:07:09.580 --> 01:07:10.180
layer

01:07:10.180 --> 01:07:10.860
burning

01:07:10.860 --> 01:07:13.160
it came

01:07:13.160 --> 01:07:13.420
with

01:07:13.420 --> 01:07:15.120
it's one

01:07:15.120 --> 01:07:15.260
of the

01:07:15.260 --> 01:07:15.680
Humax

01:07:15.680 --> 01:07:16.000
things

01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:16.320
you can

01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:16.620
get

01:07:16.620 --> 01:07:17.860
TiVo

01:07:17.860 --> 01:07:18.120
with

01:07:18.120 --> 01:07:18.840
DVD

01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:19.440
reader

01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:20.000
slash

01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:20.360
burner

01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:20.780
in it

01:07:20.780 --> 01:07:21.280
and you

01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:21.640
can actually

01:07:21.640 --> 01:07:22.260
just choose

01:07:22.260 --> 01:07:22.820
to save

01:07:22.820 --> 01:07:23.020
your

01:07:23.020 --> 01:07:23.400
programs

01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:23.800
as they

01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:24.140
record

01:07:24.140 --> 01:07:24.760
to DVD

01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:25.320
live

01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:28.580
hot

01:07:28.580 --> 01:07:29.080
damn

01:07:29.080 --> 01:07:30.020
I gotta

01:07:30.020 --> 01:07:30.260
say

01:07:30.260 --> 01:07:30.540
I'm

01:07:30.540 --> 01:07:30.820
I'm

01:07:30.820 --> 01:07:31.120
actually

01:07:31.120 --> 01:07:31.960
I remember

01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:32.360
when

01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:32.980
like TiVos

01:07:32.980 --> 01:07:33.400
first came

01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:33.680
out

01:07:33.680 --> 01:07:34.240
and

01:07:34.240 --> 01:07:34.920
I mean

01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:35.060
they're

01:07:35.060 --> 01:07:35.220
talking

01:07:35.220 --> 01:07:35.660
these are

01:07:35.660 --> 01:07:35.800
like

01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:36.580
this is

01:07:36.580 --> 01:07:36.820
like

01:07:36.820 --> 01:07:37.540
1999

01:07:37.540 --> 01:07:38.360
2000

01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:38.640
when

01:07:38.640 --> 01:07:38.860
series

01:07:38.860 --> 01:07:39.140
ones

01:07:39.140 --> 01:07:39.380
first

01:07:39.380 --> 01:07:39.560
came

01:07:39.560 --> 01:07:39.780
out

01:07:39.780 --> 01:07:40.300
and

01:07:40.300 --> 01:07:40.460
they're

01:07:40.460 --> 01:07:40.600
like

01:07:40.600 --> 01:07:40.780
oh

01:07:40.780 --> 01:07:41.020
you can

01:07:41.020 --> 01:07:41.120
put

01:07:41.120 --> 01:07:41.200
an

01:07:41.200 --> 01:07:41.380
extra

01:07:41.380 --> 01:07:41.620
hard

01:07:41.620 --> 01:07:41.840
drive

01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:42.080
in it

01:07:42.080 --> 01:07:42.260
and I

01:07:42.260 --> 01:07:42.360
was

01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:42.540
like

01:07:42.540 --> 01:07:42.680
oh

01:07:42.680 --> 01:07:42.860
that's

01:07:42.860 --> 01:07:43.020
pretty

01:07:43.020 --> 01:07:43.240
good

01:07:43.240 --> 01:07:43.500
you know

01:07:43.500 --> 01:07:43.740
wake

01:07:43.740 --> 01:07:43.900
me

01:07:43.900 --> 01:07:44.060
up

01:07:44.060 --> 01:07:44.220
when

01:07:44.220 --> 01:07:44.340
you

01:07:44.340 --> 01:07:45.200
can

01:07:45.200 --> 01:07:46.480
actually

01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:46.960
export

01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:47.240
these

01:07:47.240 --> 01:07:47.440
off

01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:47.580
the

01:07:47.580 --> 01:07:47.780
hard

01:07:47.780 --> 01:07:48.040
drive

01:07:52.260 --> 01:07:56.960
yeah

01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:57.300
you can

01:07:57.300 --> 01:07:57.600
actually

01:07:57.600 --> 01:07:58.040
do that

01:07:58.040 --> 01:07:58.420
with the

01:07:58.420 --> 01:07:58.940
series

01:07:58.940 --> 01:07:59.360
one

01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:00.200
it's

01:08:00.200 --> 01:08:00.680
not as

01:08:00.680 --> 01:08:01.160
nice

01:08:01.160 --> 01:08:01.480
as the

01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:01.740
series

01:08:01.740 --> 01:08:02.120
two

01:08:02.120 --> 01:08:02.840
you don't

01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:03.300
have

01:08:03.300 --> 01:08:03.560
the

01:08:03.560 --> 01:08:04.140
support

01:08:04.140 --> 01:08:05.280
but

01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:05.680
you can

01:08:05.680 --> 01:08:05.920
do

01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:06.120
some

01:08:06.120 --> 01:08:06.480
crazy

01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:06.760
shit

01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:06.920
with

01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:07.060
the

01:08:07.060 --> 01:08:07.280
series

01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:07.500
one

01:08:07.500 --> 01:08:07.760
TiVos

01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:08.120
the ones

01:08:08.120 --> 01:08:08.360
that were

01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:08.640
around

01:08:08.640 --> 01:08:08.780
in

01:08:08.780 --> 01:08:09.360
1999

01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:10.020
you can

01:08:10.020 --> 01:08:10.380
actually

01:08:10.380 --> 01:08:12.240
they sell

01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:13.020
mod cards

01:08:13.020 --> 01:08:13.540
for

01:08:13.540 --> 01:08:14.460
more

01:08:14.460 --> 01:08:15.040
RAM

01:08:15.040 --> 01:08:15.640
they sell

01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:16.400
mod cards

01:08:16.400 --> 01:08:16.920
for

01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:17.640
an extra

01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:17.940
IDE

01:08:17.940 --> 01:08:18.380
channel

01:08:18.380 --> 01:08:18.940
for an

01:08:18.940 --> 01:08:19.300
Ethernet

01:08:19.300 --> 01:08:19.760
adapter

01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.120
you can

01:08:22.120 --> 01:08:22.420
do all

01:08:22.420 --> 01:08:22.640
kinds

01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:22.720
of

01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:22.960
crazy

01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:23.200
shit

01:08:23.200 --> 01:08:23.360
with

01:08:23.360 --> 01:08:23.520
it

01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:24.360
most

01:08:24.360 --> 01:08:24.480
of

01:08:24.480 --> 01:08:24.580
the

01:08:24.580 --> 01:08:24.840
hacking

01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:25.120
that you

01:08:25.120 --> 01:08:25.400
do

01:08:25.400 --> 01:08:25.880
with

01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:27.120
TiVos

01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:27.460
in general

01:08:27.460 --> 01:08:28.100
starts out

01:08:28.100 --> 01:08:28.500
with going

01:08:28.500 --> 01:08:28.780
through the

01:08:28.780 --> 01:08:29.360
com port

01:08:29.360 --> 01:08:32.160
you can

01:08:32.160 --> 01:08:32.440
actually

01:08:32.440 --> 01:08:33.300
just make

01:08:33.300 --> 01:08:33.680
a serial

01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:34.040
connection

01:08:34.040 --> 01:08:34.420
to it

01:08:34.420 --> 01:08:34.780
and start

01:08:34.780 --> 01:08:35.400
throwing

01:08:35.400 --> 01:08:35.940
packages

01:08:35.940 --> 01:08:36.600
onto it

01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:37.580
to say

01:08:37.580 --> 01:08:37.840
hey

01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:38.340
I'd like

01:08:38.340 --> 01:08:38.880
to have

01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:40.040
terminal

01:08:40.040 --> 01:08:40.560
services

01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:40.980
on here

01:08:40.980 --> 01:08:41.280
so that

01:08:41.280 --> 01:08:41.600
I can

01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:42.700
start

01:08:42.700 --> 01:08:43.020
working

01:08:43.020 --> 01:08:43.360
with my

01:08:43.360 --> 01:08:43.760
TiVos

01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.220
so being

01:08:45.220 --> 01:08:45.540
that you

01:08:45.540 --> 01:08:46.000
have that

01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:46.840
you have

01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:47.220
access

01:08:47.220 --> 01:08:48.040
terminal

01:08:48.040 --> 01:08:51.180
services

01:08:51.180 --> 01:08:51.840
pretty good

01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:52.940
I was

01:08:52.940 --> 01:08:53.260
just making

01:08:53.260 --> 01:08:53.540
fun of

01:08:53.540 --> 01:08:53.780
terminal

01:08:53.780 --> 01:08:54.240
services

01:08:54.240 --> 01:08:57.100
well

01:08:57.100 --> 01:08:58.020
being that

01:08:58.020 --> 01:08:58.300
you have

01:08:58.300 --> 01:08:58.800
access to

01:08:58.800 --> 01:08:58.980
that

01:08:58.980 --> 01:08:59.340
you can

01:08:59.340 --> 01:08:59.720
start

01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:00.020
pulling

01:09:00.020 --> 01:09:00.320
stuff

01:09:00.320 --> 01:09:00.640
off the

01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:01.180
hard drive

01:09:01.180 --> 01:09:02.080
it's

01:09:02.080 --> 01:09:02.760
a pain

01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:03.040
in the

01:09:03.040 --> 01:09:03.300
butt

01:09:03.300 --> 01:09:03.580
through

01:09:03.580 --> 01:09:04.040
serial

01:09:04.040 --> 01:09:04.540
but you

01:09:04.540 --> 01:09:05.020
can also

01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:05.980
always pull

01:09:05.980 --> 01:09:06.240
out the

01:09:06.240 --> 01:09:06.660
hard drive

01:09:06.660 --> 01:09:06.980
and throw

01:09:06.980 --> 01:09:07.160
it in

01:09:07.160 --> 01:09:07.300
your

01:09:07.300 --> 01:09:08.100
Linux

01:09:08.100 --> 01:09:08.540
box

01:09:08.540 --> 01:09:10.080
and you've

01:09:10.080 --> 01:09:10.500
got access

01:09:10.500 --> 01:09:11.400
to it

01:09:11.400 --> 01:09:16.140
here is a

01:09:16.140 --> 01:09:16.900
Humax

01:09:16.900 --> 01:09:17.880
series 2

01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:18.340
TiVo

01:09:18.340 --> 01:09:18.560
and it

01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:18.880
just went

01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:19.480
for $72

01:09:19.480 --> 01:09:20.280
on eBay

01:09:20.280 --> 01:09:21.240
which I

01:09:21.240 --> 01:09:21.560
gotta say

01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:21.760
it's a

01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:22.040
pretty good

01:09:22.040 --> 01:09:22.260
deal

01:09:22.260 --> 01:09:22.560
especially

01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:22.820
if you

01:09:22.820 --> 01:09:23.140
don't have

01:09:23.140 --> 01:09:23.420
to

01:09:23.420 --> 01:09:24.520
I mean

01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:24.740
it's got

01:09:24.740 --> 01:09:24.940
built

01:09:24.940 --> 01:09:25.520
no it

01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:25.760
actually

01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:26.080
doesn't

01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:26.240
have

01:09:26.240 --> 01:09:26.460
built

01:09:26.460 --> 01:09:26.560
an

01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:26.880
ethernet

01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:27.100
it looks

01:09:27.100 --> 01:09:27.380
like it

01:09:27.380 --> 01:09:27.860
has just

01:09:27.860 --> 01:09:28.240
USB

01:09:28.240 --> 01:09:28.620
but still

01:09:28.620 --> 01:09:29.740
that's

01:09:29.740 --> 01:09:29.780
that's

01:09:29.780 --> 01:09:30.380
probably

01:09:30.380 --> 01:09:30.560
the

01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:31.040
40R

01:09:31.040 --> 01:09:31.280
one

01:09:31.280 --> 01:09:31.680
like I

01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:32.080
have

01:09:32.080 --> 01:09:33.660
it's

01:09:33.660 --> 01:09:33.880
probably

01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:34.280
just like

01:09:34.280 --> 01:09:34.580
I got

01:09:34.580 --> 01:09:34.820
with the

01:09:34.820 --> 01:09:35.080
DVD

01:09:35.080 --> 01:09:35.500
in it

01:09:35.500 --> 01:09:36.960
okay

01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:38.660
there's not

01:09:38.660 --> 01:09:38.900
a big

01:09:38.900 --> 01:09:39.440
difference in it

01:09:39.440 --> 01:09:39.860
hard drives

01:09:39.860 --> 01:09:40.440
are so cheap

01:09:40.440 --> 01:09:41.040
these days

01:09:41.040 --> 01:09:43.140
exactly

01:09:43.140 --> 01:09:44.500
still

01:09:44.500 --> 01:09:45.860
my main

01:09:45.860 --> 01:09:46.260
thing with

01:09:46.260 --> 01:09:46.600
TiVos

01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:47.040
was like

01:09:47.040 --> 01:09:47.620
I wanted

01:09:47.620 --> 01:09:48.060
the

01:09:48.060 --> 01:09:48.580
TiVo

01:09:48.580 --> 01:09:49.120
that could

01:09:49.120 --> 01:09:50.120
pull it

01:09:50.120 --> 01:09:50.420
down

01:09:50.420 --> 01:09:51.720
when I

01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:51.900
had

01:09:51.900 --> 01:09:52.480
Myth TV

01:09:52.480 --> 01:09:52.920
rough and

01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:53.180
running

01:09:53.180 --> 01:09:54.560
I recorded

01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:55.400
the Venture

01:09:55.400 --> 01:09:55.680
Brothers

01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:56.140
for all

01:09:56.140 --> 01:09:56.460
of one

01:09:56.460 --> 01:09:56.820
season

01:09:56.820 --> 01:09:58.060
and I

01:09:58.060 --> 01:09:58.500
exported

01:09:58.500 --> 01:09:58.860
them off

01:09:58.860 --> 01:09:59.040
there

01:09:59.040 --> 01:09:59.500
I assume

01:09:59.500 --> 01:09:59.780
this is

01:09:59.780 --> 01:10:00.020
illegal

01:10:00.020 --> 01:10:00.320
I'm not

01:10:00.320 --> 01:10:00.620
going to

01:10:00.620 --> 01:10:00.880
try to

01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:01.080
cop

01:10:01.080 --> 01:10:01.380
anything

01:10:01.380 --> 01:10:01.740
illegal

01:10:01.740 --> 01:10:03.280
after I

01:10:03.280 --> 01:10:03.600
recorded

01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:04.020
basically

01:10:04.020 --> 01:10:04.360
they were

01:10:04.360 --> 01:10:04.980
on every

01:10:04.980 --> 01:10:05.300
night

01:10:05.300 --> 01:10:06.560
on Adult

01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:06.840
Swim

01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:07.040
and I

01:10:07.040 --> 01:10:07.340
recorded

01:10:07.340 --> 01:10:07.680
it for

01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:08.460
about

01:10:08.460 --> 01:10:09.200
the entire

01:10:09.200 --> 01:10:10.360
first season

01:10:10.360 --> 01:10:10.740
and I

01:10:10.740 --> 01:10:11.160
exported

01:10:11.160 --> 01:10:12.180
over to

01:10:12.180 --> 01:10:18.280
DivX

01:10:18.280 --> 01:10:18.720
and it's

01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:19.220
all encoded

01:10:19.220 --> 01:10:19.460
and it

01:10:19.460 --> 01:10:19.980
works fine

01:10:19.980 --> 01:10:20.600
and I

01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:21.240
now have

01:10:21.240 --> 01:10:21.600
them all

01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:21.800
on my

01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:22.100
computer

01:10:22.100 --> 01:10:22.360
I mean

01:10:22.360 --> 01:10:22.620
I don't

01:10:22.620 --> 01:10:23.040
go out

01:10:23.040 --> 01:10:23.320
and share

01:10:23.320 --> 01:10:23.540
them on

01:10:23.540 --> 01:10:23.860
the internet

01:10:23.860 --> 01:10:24.460
so it's

01:10:24.460 --> 01:10:25.360
nothing horrible

01:10:25.360 --> 01:10:26.240
but I

01:10:26.240 --> 01:10:26.760
recorded this

01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:27.220
off the TV

01:10:27.220 --> 01:10:27.520
and I

01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:27.720
just

01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:29.040
converted it

01:10:29.040 --> 01:10:29.160
into the

01:10:29.160 --> 01:10:29.360
computer

01:10:29.360 --> 01:10:29.700
and that's

01:10:29.700 --> 01:10:29.940
what I

01:10:29.940 --> 01:10:30.420
always wanted

01:10:30.420 --> 01:10:30.600
to do

01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:31.020
with TiVo

01:10:31.020 --> 01:10:31.440
and apparently

01:10:31.440 --> 01:10:31.920
that's

01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:33.360
possible now

01:10:33.360 --> 01:10:33.680
which is

01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:34.180
just absolutely

01:10:34.180 --> 01:10:34.580
amazing

01:10:34.580 --> 01:10:36.080
yeah

01:10:36.080 --> 01:10:37.020
as far as

01:10:37.020 --> 01:10:37.400
saving it

01:10:37.400 --> 01:10:37.620
on your

01:10:37.620 --> 01:10:37.920
computer

01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:38.200
it's

01:10:38.200 --> 01:10:38.600
remarkably

01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:39.020
simple

01:10:39.020 --> 01:10:39.520
you get

01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:40.220
your TiVo

01:10:40.220 --> 01:10:40.700
you plug

01:10:40.700 --> 01:10:40.940
it into

01:10:40.940 --> 01:10:41.480
your network

01:10:41.480 --> 01:10:41.860
and you

01:10:41.860 --> 01:10:42.100
get the

01:10:42.100 --> 01:10:42.360
TiVo

01:10:42.360 --> 01:10:42.660
to go

01:10:42.660 --> 01:10:43.060
software

01:10:43.060 --> 01:10:43.800
from TiVo

01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:44.660
and it'll

01:10:44.660 --> 01:10:44.900
let you

01:10:44.900 --> 01:10:45.300
do that

01:10:45.300 --> 01:10:47.520
yeah

01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:50.320
all right

01:10:50.320 --> 01:10:50.880
so

01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:51.860
now

01:10:51.860 --> 01:10:52.160
is there

01:10:52.160 --> 01:10:52.540
going to be

01:10:52.540 --> 01:10:53.020
we're talking

01:10:53.020 --> 01:10:53.380
about series

01:10:53.380 --> 01:10:53.800
one and

01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:54.260
series two

01:10:54.260 --> 01:10:54.480
here

01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:54.720
is there

01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:54.960
going to

01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:55.200
be a

01:10:55.200 --> 01:10:55.420
series

01:10:55.420 --> 01:10:55.760
three

01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:57.120
absolutely

01:10:57.120 --> 01:10:57.820
it's

01:10:57.820 --> 01:10:58.060
actually

01:10:58.060 --> 01:10:58.420
been in

01:10:58.420 --> 01:10:58.760
production

01:10:58.760 --> 01:10:59.320
for

01:10:59.320 --> 01:11:00.620
it was

01:11:00.620 --> 01:11:01.020
supposed to

01:11:01.020 --> 01:11:01.340
be out

01:11:01.340 --> 01:11:02.020
last year

01:11:02.020 --> 01:11:02.520
I think

01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:03.520
and they

01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:03.800
have it

01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:04.020
again

01:11:04.020 --> 01:11:04.320
scheduled

01:11:04.320 --> 01:11:04.760
to come

01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:05.180
out this

01:11:05.180 --> 01:11:05.520
year

01:11:05.520 --> 01:11:06.480
in the

01:11:06.480 --> 01:11:06.880
not too

01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:07.200
distant

01:11:07.200 --> 01:11:07.660
future

01:11:07.660 --> 01:11:08.680
now that

01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:09.000
one

01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:09.760
that one

01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:09.940
I'm

01:11:09.940 --> 01:11:10.300
waiting

01:11:10.300 --> 01:11:11.260
oh god

01:11:11.260 --> 01:11:11.420
I'm

01:11:11.420 --> 01:11:11.600
waiting

01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:11.980
for that

01:11:11.980 --> 01:11:12.260
one

01:11:12.260 --> 01:11:13.300
because

01:11:13.300 --> 01:11:14.140
again

01:11:14.140 --> 01:11:14.600
it's

01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:14.820
supposed

01:11:14.820 --> 01:11:15.100
to have

01:11:15.100 --> 01:11:15.440
basically

01:11:15.440 --> 01:11:15.800
all the

01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:16.160
features

01:11:16.160 --> 01:11:16.480
that a

01:11:16.480 --> 01:11:16.980
TiVo

01:11:16.980 --> 01:11:17.420
has

01:11:17.420 --> 01:11:19.580
it's

01:11:19.580 --> 01:11:20.000
going to

01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:20.400
have

01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:21.320
the ability

01:11:21.320 --> 01:11:21.760
to record

01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:22.160
HD

01:11:22.160 --> 01:11:22.580
format

01:11:22.580 --> 01:11:23.140
programming

01:11:23.140 --> 01:11:24.640
as long

01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:25.220
as it

01:11:25.220 --> 01:11:26.040
comes in

01:11:26.040 --> 01:11:26.440
and is

01:11:26.440 --> 01:11:26.880
decoded

01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:27.540
natively

01:11:27.540 --> 01:11:27.960
by

01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:28.840
the

01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:29.640
TiVo

01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:30.100
itself

01:11:30.100 --> 01:11:31.000
so in

01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:31.340
order to

01:11:31.340 --> 01:11:31.780
do that

01:11:31.780 --> 01:11:32.060
they're

01:11:32.060 --> 01:11:32.440
having the

01:11:32.440 --> 01:11:32.800
ability

01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:33.600
to slide

01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:34.480
cable

01:11:34.480 --> 01:11:34.880
cards

01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:35.280
into

01:11:35.280 --> 01:11:35.580
the

01:11:35.580 --> 01:11:35.980
TiVo

01:11:35.980 --> 01:11:37.480
which

01:11:37.480 --> 01:11:38.160
is

01:11:38.160 --> 01:11:38.580
pretty

01:11:38.580 --> 01:11:38.960
damn

01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:39.300
cool

01:11:39.300 --> 01:11:41.780
it also

01:11:41.780 --> 01:11:42.100
has

01:11:42.100 --> 01:11:42.840
your

01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:43.420
cable

01:11:43.420 --> 01:11:43.880
boxes

01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:44.380
thrown

01:11:44.380 --> 01:11:44.560
out

01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:44.660
the

01:11:44.660 --> 01:11:44.920
window

01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:45.440
and

01:11:45.440 --> 01:11:45.600
you

01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:45.780
just

01:11:45.780 --> 01:11:45.940
use

01:11:45.940 --> 01:11:46.060
your

01:11:46.060 --> 01:11:46.340
TiVo

01:11:46.340 --> 01:11:47.300
that's

01:11:47.300 --> 01:11:47.660
absolutely

01:11:47.660 --> 01:11:48.060
right

01:11:48.060 --> 01:11:48.720
you can

01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:49.000
now

01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:49.360
get

01:11:49.360 --> 01:11:49.760
all your

01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:50.080
digital

01:11:50.080 --> 01:11:50.640
programming

01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:51.400
and

01:11:51.400 --> 01:11:52.520
HD

01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:53.200
on your

01:11:53.200 --> 01:11:53.640
TiVo

01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:54.740
and

01:11:54.740 --> 01:11:55.140
you don't

01:11:55.140 --> 01:11:55.480
have to

01:11:55.480 --> 01:11:55.660
worry

01:11:55.660 --> 01:11:55.900
about

01:11:55.900 --> 01:11:56.060
a

01:11:56.060 --> 01:11:56.320
damn

01:11:56.320 --> 01:11:56.640
thing

01:11:56.640 --> 01:11:56.920
there's

01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:57.080
not

01:11:57.080 --> 01:11:57.180
going

01:11:57.180 --> 01:11:57.220
to

01:11:57.220 --> 01:11:57.360
be

01:11:57.360 --> 01:11:58.640
your

01:11:58.640 --> 01:11:58.920
cable

01:11:58.920 --> 01:11:59.240
company

01:11:59.240 --> 01:11:59.600
can't

01:11:59.600 --> 01:11:59.840
block

01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:00.140
stuff

01:12:00.140 --> 01:12:00.460
out

01:12:00.460 --> 01:12:01.660
things

01:12:01.660 --> 01:12:01.900
like

01:12:01.900 --> 01:12:02.260
that

01:12:02.260 --> 01:12:04.540
the

01:12:04.540 --> 01:12:04.720
only

01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:06.260
block

01:12:06.260 --> 01:12:06.480
outs

01:12:06.480 --> 01:12:06.780
that I

01:12:06.780 --> 01:12:07.020
know

01:12:07.020 --> 01:12:07.360
of

01:12:07.360 --> 01:12:08.020
are

01:12:08.020 --> 01:12:08.400
actually

01:12:08.400 --> 01:12:08.700
things

01:12:08.700 --> 01:12:09.020
you can

01:12:09.020 --> 01:12:09.320
record

01:12:09.320 --> 01:12:09.520
from

01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:09.820
TiVo

01:12:09.820 --> 01:12:10.120
which

01:12:10.120 --> 01:12:10.500
I

01:12:10.500 --> 01:12:11.060
forgot

01:12:11.060 --> 01:12:11.280
to

01:12:11.280 --> 01:12:11.560
mention

01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:12.440
TiVo

01:12:12.440 --> 01:12:12.560
is

01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:12.960
actually

01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:14.020
starting

01:12:14.020 --> 01:12:14.400
to do

01:12:14.400 --> 01:12:14.580
a

01:12:14.580 --> 01:12:15.000
service

01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:15.500
where

01:12:15.500 --> 01:12:15.760
they

01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:16.000
will

01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:16.340
send

01:12:16.340 --> 01:12:16.620
you

01:12:16.620 --> 01:12:17.360
movies

01:12:17.360 --> 01:12:17.960
via

01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:18.180
the

01:12:18.180 --> 01:12:18.620
internet

01:12:18.620 --> 01:12:20.580
and

01:12:20.580 --> 01:12:21.260
you

01:12:21.260 --> 01:12:21.440
can

01:12:21.440 --> 01:12:22.000
just

01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:22.280
watch

01:12:22.280 --> 01:12:22.440
them

01:12:22.440 --> 01:12:22.720
you don't

01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:23.360
have to

01:12:23.360 --> 01:12:24.500
watch

01:12:24.500 --> 01:12:25.140
them live

01:12:25.140 --> 01:12:25.800
and

01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:26.020
you'll

01:12:26.020 --> 01:12:26.280
be able

01:12:26.280 --> 01:12:26.460
to

01:12:26.460 --> 01:12:26.700
order

01:12:26.700 --> 01:12:27.020
them

01:12:27.020 --> 01:12:27.360
with

01:12:27.360 --> 01:12:27.500
your

01:12:27.500 --> 01:12:27.820
remote

01:12:27.820 --> 01:12:28.140
just

01:12:28.140 --> 01:12:28.580
like

01:12:28.580 --> 01:12:30.680
all

01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:30.820
the

01:12:30.820 --> 01:12:31.000
new

01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:31.300
digital

01:12:31.300 --> 01:12:31.760
services

01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:32.180
have

01:12:32.180 --> 01:12:35.140
so

01:12:35.140 --> 01:12:35.540
wait

01:12:35.540 --> 01:12:35.660
you're

01:12:35.660 --> 01:12:35.860
telling

01:12:35.860 --> 01:12:36.040
me

01:12:36.040 --> 01:12:36.240
my

01:12:36.240 --> 01:12:36.560
TiVo

01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:36.740
will

01:12:36.740 --> 01:12:37.080
download

01:12:37.080 --> 01:12:37.320
me

01:12:37.320 --> 01:12:37.720
porn

01:12:37.720 --> 01:12:39.000
this

01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:39.280
thing's

01:12:39.280 --> 01:12:39.840
amazing

01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:40.680
what

01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:41.280
else

01:12:41.280 --> 01:12:41.840
can

01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:41.960
it

01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:42.080
do

01:12:42.080 --> 01:12:43.540
seriously

01:12:43.540 --> 01:12:43.900
if

01:12:43.900 --> 01:12:44.020
it

01:12:44.020 --> 01:12:44.180
does

01:12:44.180 --> 01:12:44.340
my

01:12:44.340 --> 01:12:44.580
dishes

01:12:44.580 --> 01:12:44.820
I'm

01:12:44.820 --> 01:12:44.960
just

01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:45.180
buying

01:12:45.180 --> 01:12:45.300
it

01:12:45.300 --> 01:12:45.440
right

01:12:45.440 --> 01:12:46.120
now

01:12:46.120 --> 01:12:47.260
is there

01:12:47.260 --> 01:12:47.900
a

01:12:47.900 --> 01:12:48.080
dish

01:12:48.080 --> 01:12:48.320
mod

01:12:48.320 --> 01:12:48.560
for

01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:48.680
it

01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:49.900
you're

01:12:49.900 --> 01:12:50.060
talking

01:12:50.060 --> 01:12:50.220
about

01:12:50.220 --> 01:12:50.460
direct

01:12:50.460 --> 01:12:50.800
TV

01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:50.980
what

01:12:50.980 --> 01:12:51.200
about

01:12:51.200 --> 01:12:51.600
do

01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:52.280
your

01:12:52.280 --> 01:12:52.520
dish

01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:52.840
TV

01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:53.020
or

01:12:53.020 --> 01:12:53.220
something

01:12:53.220 --> 01:12:54.260
well

01:12:54.260 --> 01:12:54.900
I'd

01:12:54.900 --> 01:12:55.100
like

01:12:55.100 --> 01:12:55.240
to

01:12:55.240 --> 01:12:55.380
see

01:12:55.380 --> 01:12:55.620
that

01:12:55.620 --> 01:12:55.760
and

01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:56.040
maybe

01:12:56.040 --> 01:12:56.860
I'll

01:12:56.860 --> 01:12:57.420
have

01:12:57.420 --> 01:12:57.640
one

01:12:57.640 --> 01:12:57.720
of

01:12:57.720 --> 01:12:57.880
my

01:12:57.880 --> 01:12:58.340
weirdo

01:12:58.340 --> 01:12:58.600
friends

01:12:58.600 --> 01:12:58.840
start

01:12:58.840 --> 01:12:59.120
working

01:12:59.120 --> 01:12:59.400
on a

01:12:59.400 --> 01:12:59.780
USB

01:12:59.780 --> 01:13:00.180
mod

01:13:00.180 --> 01:13:00.620
for it

01:13:00.620 --> 01:13:00.760
that

01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:01.020
makes

01:13:01.020 --> 01:13:01.140
it

01:13:01.140 --> 01:13:01.280
do

01:13:01.280 --> 01:13:01.660
dishes

01:13:01.660 --> 01:13:01.960
I

01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:02.100
don't

01:13:02.100 --> 01:13:02.400
know

01:13:02.400 --> 01:13:02.760
yeah

01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:03.760
super

01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:04.060
super

01:13:04.060 --> 01:13:04.320
neat

01:13:04.320 --> 01:13:04.720
USB

01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:05.020
dish

01:13:05.020 --> 01:13:05.300
mod

01:13:05.300 --> 01:13:06.480
that's

01:13:06.480 --> 01:13:06.720
right

01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:08.380
lucky

01:13:08.380 --> 01:13:08.760
best

01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:09.180
USB

01:13:09.180 --> 01:13:09.480
dish

01:13:09.480 --> 01:13:09.740
mod

01:13:09.740 --> 01:13:10.800
2.0

01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:12.340
yeah

01:13:12.340 --> 01:13:14.400
so

01:13:14.400 --> 01:13:14.820
okay

01:13:14.820 --> 01:13:15.700
I mean

01:13:15.700 --> 01:13:16.820
I think

01:13:16.820 --> 01:13:17.140
we covered

01:13:17.140 --> 01:13:17.620
most of it

01:13:17.620 --> 01:13:17.960
is there

01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:18.360
anything else

01:13:18.360 --> 01:13:18.560
you want

01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:18.780
to talk

01:13:18.780 --> 01:13:19.000
about

01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:19.140
or

01:13:19.140 --> 01:13:19.340
just

01:13:19.340 --> 01:13:19.940
I mean

01:13:19.940 --> 01:13:20.340
this

01:13:20.340 --> 01:13:20.780
just

01:13:20.780 --> 01:13:21.060
really

01:13:21.060 --> 01:13:21.360
sounds

01:13:21.360 --> 01:13:21.820
really cool

01:13:21.820 --> 01:13:22.040
like

01:13:22.040 --> 01:13:22.320
I didn't

01:13:22.320 --> 01:13:22.520
know

01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:23.120
TiVos

01:13:23.120 --> 01:13:23.460
could do

01:13:23.460 --> 01:13:23.700
half

01:13:23.700 --> 01:13:23.840
this

01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:24.060
stuff

01:13:24.060 --> 01:13:24.320
I mean

01:13:24.320 --> 01:13:24.920
I knew

01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:25.100
it was

01:13:25.100 --> 01:13:25.560
a computer

01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:26.140
and I

01:13:26.140 --> 01:13:26.340
knew

01:13:26.340 --> 01:13:26.600
when

01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:26.880
series

01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:27.160
2

01:13:27.160 --> 01:13:27.440
came

01:13:27.440 --> 01:13:27.700
out

01:13:27.700 --> 01:13:27.960
had

01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:28.220
like

01:13:28.220 --> 01:13:29.080
ethernet

01:13:29.080 --> 01:13:29.700
ports

01:13:29.700 --> 01:13:30.020
and you

01:13:30.020 --> 01:13:30.160
were

01:13:30.160 --> 01:13:30.380
going

01:13:30.380 --> 01:13:30.620
like

01:13:30.620 --> 01:13:31.000
okay

01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:31.360
I guess

01:13:31.360 --> 01:13:31.540
you can

01:13:31.540 --> 01:13:31.720
start

01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:31.940
doing

01:13:31.940 --> 01:13:32.220
stuff

01:13:32.220 --> 01:13:32.420
like

01:13:32.420 --> 01:13:32.720
that

01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:33.300
at

01:13:33.300 --> 01:13:33.440
which

01:13:33.440 --> 01:13:33.660
point

01:13:33.660 --> 01:13:34.140
I guess

01:13:34.140 --> 01:13:34.480
I just

01:13:34.480 --> 01:13:34.780
really

01:13:34.780 --> 01:13:35.140
stopped

01:13:35.140 --> 01:13:35.420
paying

01:13:35.420 --> 01:13:35.780
attention

01:13:35.780 --> 01:13:36.080
and

01:13:36.080 --> 01:13:36.360
didn't

01:13:36.360 --> 01:13:36.560
really

01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:36.780
know

01:13:36.780 --> 01:13:36.960
that

01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:37.160
all

01:13:37.160 --> 01:13:37.340
the

01:13:37.340 --> 01:13:37.580
stuff

01:13:37.580 --> 01:13:38.000
happened

01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:38.220
that

01:13:38.220 --> 01:13:38.320
I

01:13:38.320 --> 01:13:38.640
wanted

01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:38.860
to

01:13:38.860 --> 01:13:40.560
happen

01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:40.900
actually

01:13:40.900 --> 01:13:41.180
did

01:13:41.180 --> 01:13:41.480
happen

01:13:41.480 --> 01:13:41.660
I

01:13:41.660 --> 01:13:41.880
just

01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:42.180
never

01:13:42.180 --> 01:13:42.480
noticed

01:13:42.480 --> 01:13:42.740
it

01:13:42.740 --> 01:13:44.420
well

01:13:44.420 --> 01:13:45.300
it's

01:13:45.300 --> 01:13:45.520
not

01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:45.800
like

01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:46.200
TiVos

01:13:46.200 --> 01:13:46.400
was

01:13:46.400 --> 01:13:46.660
really

01:13:46.660 --> 01:13:47.020
talking

01:13:47.020 --> 01:13:47.300
about

01:13:47.300 --> 01:13:47.460
it

01:13:47.460 --> 01:13:47.640
and

01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:47.860
the

01:13:47.860 --> 01:13:48.100
news

01:13:48.100 --> 01:13:48.340
didn't

01:13:48.340 --> 01:13:48.640
want to

01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:48.860
piss

01:13:48.860 --> 01:13:49.100
off

01:13:49.100 --> 01:13:49.460
TiVos

01:13:49.460 --> 01:13:49.620
but

01:13:49.620 --> 01:13:49.740
they

01:13:49.740 --> 01:13:49.920
weren't

01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:50.220
talking

01:13:50.220 --> 01:13:50.440
about

01:13:50.440 --> 01:13:50.560
it

01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:50.820
either

01:13:50.820 --> 01:13:51.780
you

01:13:51.780 --> 01:13:51.940
just

01:13:51.940 --> 01:13:52.140
kind

01:13:52.140 --> 01:13:52.220
of

01:13:52.220 --> 01:13:52.380
have

01:13:52.380 --> 01:13:52.520
to

01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:52.840
pay

01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:53.360
attention

01:13:53.360 --> 01:13:55.240
yeah

01:13:55.240 --> 01:13:55.760
I guess

01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:55.940
so

01:13:55.940 --> 01:13:56.860
is there

01:13:56.860 --> 01:13:57.060
like

01:13:57.060 --> 01:13:57.560
are there

01:13:57.560 --> 01:13:57.920
websites

01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:58.280
for

01:13:58.280 --> 01:13:58.500
this

01:13:58.500 --> 01:13:58.720
like

01:13:58.720 --> 01:13:58.880
is

01:13:58.880 --> 01:13:59.040
there

01:13:59.040 --> 01:13:59.380
a

01:13:59.380 --> 01:14:00.160
TiVo

01:14:00.160 --> 01:14:01.020
I assume

01:14:01.020 --> 01:14:01.380
there has

01:14:01.380 --> 01:14:01.540
to be

01:14:01.540 --> 01:14:01.880
websites

01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:02.280
about it

01:14:02.280 --> 01:14:02.500
but

01:14:02.500 --> 01:14:03.260
do you

01:14:03.260 --> 01:14:03.420
want

01:14:03.420 --> 01:14:03.540
to

01:14:03.540 --> 01:14:03.840
absolutely

01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:06.480
let me

01:14:06.480 --> 01:14:06.740
take a

01:14:06.740 --> 01:14:06.900
look

01:14:06.900 --> 01:14:07.140
here

01:14:07.140 --> 01:14:07.720
there's

01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:09.560
tivotechies.com

01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:10.560
and

01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:11.240
you can

01:14:11.240 --> 01:14:11.580
check out

01:14:11.580 --> 01:14:11.880
Freevo

01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:12.100
if you

01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:16.360
TiVo

01:14:16.360 --> 01:14:17.180
HME

01:14:17.180 --> 01:14:17.560
stuff

01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:17.860
like

01:14:17.860 --> 01:14:17.960
I

01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:18.080
said

01:14:18.080 --> 01:14:18.220
it's

01:14:18.220 --> 01:14:18.460
open

01:14:18.460 --> 01:14:18.820
source

01:14:18.820 --> 01:14:19.020
and

01:14:19.020 --> 01:14:19.200
there's

01:14:19.200 --> 01:14:19.320
an

01:14:19.320 --> 01:14:20.440
SDK

01:14:20.440 --> 01:14:21.220
available

01:14:21.220 --> 01:14:21.600
at

01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:22.300
SourceForge

01:14:22.300 --> 01:14:23.420
the

01:14:23.420 --> 01:14:23.720
tiny

01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:24.140
URL

01:14:24.140 --> 01:14:24.640
is

01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:25.400
charlie

01:14:25.400 --> 01:14:26.500
nancy

01:14:26.500 --> 01:14:27.560
4

01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:28.220
2

01:14:28.220 --> 01:14:29.120
zelda

01:14:29.120 --> 01:14:33.840
that

01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:34.840
actually

01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:35.200
has a

01:14:35.200 --> 01:14:35.360
disk

01:14:35.360 --> 01:14:35.760
for the

01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:36.080
SDK

01:14:36.080 --> 01:14:39.880
so

01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:40.020
it

01:14:40.020 --> 01:14:40.320
actually

01:14:40.320 --> 01:14:40.760
it

01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:40.960
has

01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:41.200
the

01:14:41.200 --> 01:14:41.520
SDK

01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:41.720
and

01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:41.800
you

01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:41.900
can

01:14:41.900 --> 01:14:42.120
actually

01:14:42.120 --> 01:14:42.460
develop

01:14:42.460 --> 01:14:42.620
all

01:14:42.620 --> 01:14:42.780
this

01:14:42.780 --> 01:14:43.000
stuff

01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:43.320
and

01:14:43.320 --> 01:14:44.080
it's

01:14:44.080 --> 01:14:44.220
all

01:14:44.220 --> 01:14:44.480
Java

01:14:44.480 --> 01:14:44.800
based

01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:45.040
I

01:14:45.040 --> 01:14:45.220
remember

01:14:45.220 --> 01:14:45.400
you

01:14:45.400 --> 01:14:45.560
saying

01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:45.780
that

01:14:45.780 --> 01:14:45.960
I just

01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:46.080
want

01:14:46.080 --> 01:14:46.220
to

01:14:46.220 --> 01:14:46.580
toss

01:14:46.580 --> 01:14:46.700
it

01:14:46.700 --> 01:14:46.820
out

01:14:46.820 --> 01:14:47.000
there

01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:48.400
so

01:14:48.400 --> 01:14:49.420
if

01:14:49.420 --> 01:14:49.500
you

01:14:49.500 --> 01:14:49.620
don't

01:14:49.620 --> 01:14:49.820
like

01:14:49.820 --> 01:14:50.120
Java

01:14:50.120 --> 01:14:50.660
you're

01:14:50.660 --> 01:14:51.060
boned

01:14:51.060 --> 01:14:51.400
but

01:14:51.400 --> 01:14:51.980
basically

01:14:51.980 --> 01:14:52.540
Java

01:14:52.540 --> 01:14:52.780
was

01:14:52.780 --> 01:14:53.060
actually

01:14:53.060 --> 01:14:53.300
made

01:14:53.300 --> 01:14:53.440
for

01:14:53.440 --> 01:14:53.560
all

01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:53.700
this

01:14:53.700 --> 01:14:53.920
stuff

01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:54.900
TiVo

01:14:54.900 --> 01:14:55.560
TiVo

01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:56.260
is what

01:14:56.260 --> 01:14:56.540
Java

01:14:56.540 --> 01:14:56.760
was

01:14:56.760 --> 01:14:56.940
made

01:14:56.940 --> 01:14:57.200
for

01:14:57.200 --> 01:14:57.440
that

01:14:57.440 --> 01:14:57.540
and

01:14:57.540 --> 01:14:57.660
your

01:14:57.660 --> 01:14:58.120
dishwasher

01:14:58.120 --> 01:15:00.680
don't

01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:00.900
forget

01:15:00.900 --> 01:15:01.020
the

01:15:01.020 --> 01:15:01.480
refrigerator

01:15:01.480 --> 01:15:02.060
that's

01:15:02.060 --> 01:15:02.260
really

01:15:02.260 --> 01:15:03.540
yeah

01:15:03.540 --> 01:15:03.800
no

01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:04.280
basically

01:15:04.280 --> 01:15:04.640
Java

01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:04.840
was

01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:05.020
made

01:15:05.020 --> 01:15:05.260
for

01:15:05.260 --> 01:15:05.540
all

01:15:05.540 --> 01:15:05.720
your

01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:05.900
home

01:15:05.900 --> 01:15:06.380
appliances

01:15:06.380 --> 01:15:07.420
I

01:15:07.420 --> 01:15:08.200
yeah

01:15:08.200 --> 01:15:08.560
I remember

01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:08.860
reading

01:15:08.860 --> 01:15:09.340
about that

01:15:09.340 --> 01:15:09.900
your

01:15:09.900 --> 01:15:10.480
kitchen

01:15:10.480 --> 01:15:10.680
was

01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:11.100
everything

01:15:11.100 --> 01:15:11.320
was

01:15:11.320 --> 01:15:11.460
in

01:15:11.460 --> 01:15:11.560
your

01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:11.720
house

01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:11.920
supposed

01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:12.100
to run

01:15:12.100 --> 01:15:12.260
on

01:15:12.260 --> 01:15:12.640
Java

01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:14.760
your

01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:15.060
Java

01:15:15.060 --> 01:15:15.500
fridge

01:15:15.500 --> 01:15:15.680
your

01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:16.040
toaster

01:15:16.040 --> 01:15:19.260
it's

01:15:19.260 --> 01:15:20.060
actually

01:15:20.060 --> 01:15:20.920
pretty good

01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:21.240
it wasn't

01:15:21.240 --> 01:15:21.500
like that

01:15:21.500 --> 01:15:21.900
my toaster

01:15:21.900 --> 01:15:22.220
would take

01:15:22.220 --> 01:15:23.540
my toaster

01:15:23.540 --> 01:15:23.860
would take

01:15:23.860 --> 01:15:24.140
like you

01:15:24.140 --> 01:15:24.220
know

01:15:24.220 --> 01:15:24.800
30 minutes

01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:25.080
for it

01:15:25.080 --> 01:15:25.380
to toast

01:15:25.380 --> 01:15:25.680
something

01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:26.220
yeah

01:15:26.220 --> 01:15:26.980
you push

01:15:26.980 --> 01:15:27.340
the toast

01:15:27.340 --> 01:15:27.600
down

01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:27.820
and then

01:15:27.820 --> 01:15:28.100
it like

01:15:28.100 --> 01:15:28.420
takes

01:15:28.420 --> 01:15:29.120
10 minutes

01:15:29.120 --> 01:15:29.400
just for

01:15:29.400 --> 01:15:29.820
the coils

01:15:29.820 --> 01:15:30.180
to turn

01:15:30.180 --> 01:15:30.520
on

01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:31.460
hey

01:15:31.460 --> 01:15:31.780
and if

01:15:31.780 --> 01:15:32.040
it's a

01:15:32.040 --> 01:15:32.380
Microsoft

01:15:32.380 --> 01:15:32.880
toaster

01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:33.140
you get

01:15:33.140 --> 01:15:33.440
the blue

01:15:33.440 --> 01:15:33.760
screen

01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:34.940
no toast

01:15:34.940 --> 01:15:35.320
you get

01:15:35.320 --> 01:15:35.660
the blue

01:15:35.660 --> 01:15:36.320
toast

01:15:36.320 --> 01:15:36.820
of death

01:15:36.820 --> 01:15:39.100
no

01:15:39.100 --> 01:15:40.640
if it was

01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:41.120
a Microsoft

01:15:41.120 --> 01:15:41.380
one

01:15:41.380 --> 01:15:41.660
they just

01:15:41.660 --> 01:15:41.920
burst

01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:42.520
into flames

01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:45.820
then

01:15:45.820 --> 01:15:46.280
next week

01:15:46.280 --> 01:15:46.580
there's a

01:15:46.580 --> 01:15:46.900
recall

01:15:46.900 --> 01:15:48.000
I think

01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:49.620
maybe

01:15:49.620 --> 01:15:50.480
no no

01:15:50.480 --> 01:15:50.800
there's a

01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:51.100
patch

01:15:51.100 --> 01:15:51.460
and then

01:15:51.460 --> 01:15:51.940
the day

01:15:51.940 --> 01:15:52.340
after that

01:15:52.340 --> 01:15:52.600
there's a

01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:52.800
patch

01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:52.940
for

01:15:52.940 --> 01:15:57.700
all right

01:15:57.700 --> 01:15:58.920
anyways

01:15:58.920 --> 01:15:59.520
yeah

01:15:59.520 --> 01:15:59.940
if you want

01:15:59.940 --> 01:16:00.380
to check out

01:16:00.380 --> 01:16:00.680
some of the

01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:01.000
software

01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:01.260
and you

01:16:01.260 --> 01:16:01.520
actually

01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:01.980
have a

01:16:01.980 --> 01:16:02.300
TiVo

01:16:02.300 --> 01:16:02.640
that's on

01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:02.960
your home

01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:03.360
network

01:16:03.360 --> 01:16:03.720
you can

01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:04.140
check out

01:16:04.140 --> 01:16:04.520
the Java

01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:04.980
HMO

01:16:04.980 --> 01:16:05.360
program

01:16:05.360 --> 01:16:05.600
that I

01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:05.860
talked

01:16:05.860 --> 01:16:06.160
about

01:16:06.160 --> 01:16:06.520
Source

01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:07.080
Forge

01:16:07.080 --> 01:16:08.320
can I

01:16:08.320 --> 01:16:08.540
give the

01:16:08.540 --> 01:16:08.980
URL for

01:16:08.980 --> 01:16:09.240
that

01:16:09.240 --> 01:16:09.860
oh

01:16:09.860 --> 01:16:10.120
what

01:16:10.120 --> 01:16:10.200
I

01:16:10.200 --> 01:16:10.300
have

01:16:10.300 --> 01:16:10.460
no

01:16:10.460 --> 01:16:10.620
you

01:16:10.620 --> 01:16:11.420
want

01:16:11.420 --> 01:16:11.660
man

01:16:11.660 --> 01:16:12.620
all right

01:16:12.620 --> 01:16:12.900
it's

01:16:12.900 --> 01:16:14.000
tinyurl

01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:14.780
slash

01:16:14.780 --> 01:16:16.620
Zelda

01:16:16.620 --> 01:16:17.500
Charlie

01:16:17.500 --> 01:16:18.400
Thomas

01:16:18.400 --> 01:16:19.040
3

01:16:19.040 --> 01:16:20.640
and there's

01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:21.360
also another

01:16:21.360 --> 01:16:21.800
one that I

01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:22.360
recommend called

01:16:22.360 --> 01:16:23.280
Audio Faucet

01:16:23.280 --> 01:16:24.980
which does

01:16:24.980 --> 01:16:25.780
what I said

01:16:25.780 --> 01:16:26.260
with showing

01:16:26.260 --> 01:16:26.740
the album

01:16:26.740 --> 01:16:27.380
covers and

01:16:27.380 --> 01:16:27.780
the track

01:16:27.780 --> 01:16:28.380
lists and

01:16:28.380 --> 01:16:29.380
all that

01:16:29.380 --> 01:16:30.100
happy stuff

01:16:30.100 --> 01:16:31.880
and you

01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:32.360
can find

01:16:32.360 --> 01:16:33.300
that at

01:16:33.300 --> 01:16:34.420
tinyurl.com

01:16:34.420 --> 01:16:35.060
slash

01:16:35.060 --> 01:16:38.120
dang

01:16:38.120 --> 01:16:38.940
can't

01:16:38.940 --> 01:16:39.140
remember

01:16:39.140 --> 01:16:39.400
what a

01:16:39.400 --> 01:16:39.560
B

01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:40.020
is

01:16:40.020 --> 01:16:40.580
no

01:16:40.580 --> 01:16:41.580
bravo

01:16:41.580 --> 01:16:42.780
bravo

01:16:42.780 --> 01:16:43.180
bravo

01:16:43.180 --> 01:16:43.820
7

01:16:43.820 --> 01:16:45.000
uh

01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:45.720
quilts

01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:46.360
I don't

01:16:46.360 --> 01:16:46.740
know

01:16:46.740 --> 01:16:47.180
it's

01:16:47.180 --> 01:16:47.560
Quebec

01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:50.100
bravo

01:16:50.100 --> 01:16:50.460
7

01:16:50.460 --> 01:16:51.100
Quebec

01:16:51.100 --> 01:16:51.720
alpha

01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:52.380
5

01:16:52.380 --> 01:16:55.240
and uh

01:16:55.240 --> 01:16:55.400
yeah

01:16:55.400 --> 01:16:55.660
that

01:16:55.660 --> 01:16:56.540
that

01:16:56.540 --> 01:16:56.760
seems

01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:56.980
pretty

01:16:56.980 --> 01:16:57.220
cool

01:16:57.220 --> 01:16:57.660
but I

01:16:57.660 --> 01:16:57.940
can't

01:16:57.940 --> 01:16:58.260
remember

01:16:58.260 --> 01:16:58.700
anything

01:16:58.700 --> 01:16:59.080
from my

01:16:59.080 --> 01:16:59.300
tech

01:16:59.300 --> 01:16:59.620
support

01:16:59.620 --> 01:17:00.000
days

01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:00.260
oh

01:17:00.260 --> 01:17:00.580
no

01:17:00.580 --> 01:17:01.400
oh

01:17:01.400 --> 01:17:01.780
no

01:17:01.780 --> 01:17:04.420
get your

01:17:04.420 --> 01:17:04.840
ham radio

01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:05.180
license

01:17:05.180 --> 01:17:05.420
you'll be

01:17:05.420 --> 01:17:05.800
all set

01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:06.760
yeah

01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:09.240
all right

01:17:09.240 --> 01:17:10.400
well

01:17:10.400 --> 01:17:11.340
this is

01:17:11.340 --> 01:17:11.840
I gotta

01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:12.060
say

01:17:12.060 --> 01:17:12.680
this episode

01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:13.120
was pretty

01:17:13.120 --> 01:17:13.480
enlightening

01:17:13.480 --> 01:17:13.900
for me

01:17:13.900 --> 01:17:15.560
and

01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:18.560
yeah

01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:19.540
so I'm

01:17:19.540 --> 01:17:19.900
seriously

01:17:19.900 --> 01:17:20.240
I'm thinking

01:17:20.240 --> 01:17:20.560
about buying

01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:20.820
a TV

01:17:20.820 --> 01:17:21.200
as soon as

01:17:21.200 --> 01:17:21.360
I got

01:17:21.360 --> 01:17:21.820
some spare

01:17:21.820 --> 01:17:22.340
cash around

01:17:22.340 --> 01:17:22.840
which may

01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:23.280
be a while

01:17:23.280 --> 01:17:23.800
but still

01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:24.960
I'm thinking

01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:25.280
about doing

01:17:25.280 --> 01:17:25.840
it

01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:26.280
and actually

01:17:26.280 --> 01:17:27.420
the other

01:17:27.420 --> 01:17:28.220
question I

01:17:28.220 --> 01:17:28.460
had

01:17:28.460 --> 01:17:29.280
is I mean

01:17:29.280 --> 01:17:29.580
you talked

01:17:29.580 --> 01:17:29.760
about

01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:30.120
ethernet

01:17:30.120 --> 01:17:30.460
adapters

01:17:30.460 --> 01:17:30.840
what about

01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:31.220
wireless

01:17:31.220 --> 01:17:31.660
ethernet

01:17:31.660 --> 01:17:32.080
adapters

01:17:32.080 --> 01:17:33.300
absolutely

01:17:33.300 --> 01:17:34.100
there are

01:17:34.100 --> 01:17:34.520
actually

01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:34.880
with the

01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:35.420
series 2

01:17:35.420 --> 01:17:36.080
there are

01:17:36.080 --> 01:17:36.380
a number

01:17:36.380 --> 01:17:36.980
of series 2

01:17:36.980 --> 01:17:37.560
TVs that

01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:38.000
natively

01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:38.480
support

01:17:38.480 --> 01:17:39.500
wireless

01:17:39.500 --> 01:17:39.940
ethernet

01:17:39.940 --> 01:17:40.480
adapters

01:17:40.480 --> 01:17:41.400
okay

01:17:41.400 --> 01:17:41.660
that's

01:17:41.660 --> 01:17:41.820
what I

01:17:41.820 --> 01:17:42.100
wanted to

01:17:42.100 --> 01:17:42.440
know

01:17:42.440 --> 01:17:44.180
all right

01:17:44.180 --> 01:17:44.560
well

01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:46.080
that was

01:17:46.080 --> 01:17:46.600
I gotta

01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:46.780
say

01:17:46.780 --> 01:17:47.160
that was

01:17:47.160 --> 01:17:47.520
that was

01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:47.720
very

01:17:47.720 --> 01:17:48.180
enlightening

01:17:48.180 --> 01:17:50.140
everyone's

01:17:50.140 --> 01:17:50.480
going out

01:17:50.480 --> 01:17:50.720
and go

01:17:50.720 --> 01:17:50.840
out

01:17:50.840 --> 01:17:51.000
buy

01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:51.240
TV

01:17:51.240 --> 01:17:51.500
as

01:17:51.500 --> 01:17:51.640
myth

01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:51.960
TV

01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:52.420
is just

01:17:52.420 --> 01:17:52.800
going to

01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:53.000
fall

01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:53.300
flat

01:17:53.300 --> 01:17:53.560
on its

01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:53.860
face

01:17:53.860 --> 01:17:54.360
I

01:17:54.360 --> 01:17:54.620
see

01:17:54.620 --> 01:17:54.880
buy

01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:55.080
TV

01:17:55.080 --> 01:17:56.860
or

01:17:56.860 --> 01:17:57.140
myth

01:17:57.140 --> 01:17:57.540
TV

01:17:57.540 --> 01:17:57.940
myth

01:17:57.940 --> 01:17:58.580
TV rock

01:17:58.580 --> 01:17:58.860
too

01:17:58.860 --> 01:17:59.260
it's

01:17:59.260 --> 01:18:00.640
so sad

01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:01.000
but I'm

01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:01.140
not

01:18:01.220 --> 01:18:01.860
completely

01:18:01.860 --> 01:18:02.300
just

01:18:02.300 --> 01:18:03.320
abandoning it

01:18:03.320 --> 01:18:03.780
right now

01:18:03.780 --> 01:18:04.920
I saw

01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:05.340
this stuff

01:18:05.340 --> 01:18:05.720
and said

01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:06.380
oh my god

01:18:06.380 --> 01:18:06.780
this is the

01:18:06.780 --> 01:18:07.140
best thing

01:18:07.140 --> 01:18:07.440
ever

01:18:07.440 --> 01:18:08.420
hey

01:18:08.420 --> 01:18:08.780
can I

01:18:08.780 --> 01:18:09.400
throw in a

01:18:09.400 --> 01:18:09.680
couple of

01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:10.120
things with the

01:18:10.120 --> 01:18:10.560
series 3

01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:11.000
TiVo

01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:12.500
wait a little

01:18:12.500 --> 01:18:12.820
bit

01:18:12.820 --> 01:18:14.200
in addition to

01:18:14.200 --> 01:18:14.660
it accepting

01:18:14.660 --> 01:18:15.200
cable cards

01:18:15.200 --> 01:18:15.700
it'll actually

01:18:15.700 --> 01:18:16.900
accept two

01:18:16.900 --> 01:18:17.560
cable cards

01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:18.080
at a time

01:18:18.080 --> 01:18:18.600
so you can

01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:19.580
record one

01:18:19.580 --> 01:18:20.160
program and

01:18:20.160 --> 01:18:20.700
watch something

01:18:20.700 --> 01:18:21.080
else

01:18:21.080 --> 01:18:24.200
yeah

01:18:24.200 --> 01:18:25.380
so that's

01:18:25.380 --> 01:18:25.980
that's one of

01:18:25.980 --> 01:18:26.360
the big

01:18:26.360 --> 01:18:26.820
features for

01:18:26.820 --> 01:18:26.980
me

01:18:26.980 --> 01:18:27.820
do you

01:18:27.820 --> 01:18:28.480
have any

01:18:28.480 --> 01:18:28.840
idea how

01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:29.020
much

01:18:29.020 --> 01:18:29.900
the digital

01:18:29.900 --> 01:18:30.540
cable boxes

01:18:30.540 --> 01:18:31.100
cost these

01:18:31.100 --> 01:18:31.880
days

01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:34.180
I have no

01:18:34.180 --> 01:18:34.980
clue

01:18:34.980 --> 01:18:36.200
they rent

01:18:36.200 --> 01:18:36.680
for

01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:37.660
or at least

01:18:37.660 --> 01:18:38.300
I pay for

01:18:38.300 --> 01:18:38.520
mine

01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:39.000
I pay like

01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:39.560
four bucks

01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:39.940
for each

01:18:39.940 --> 01:18:40.260
one

01:18:40.260 --> 01:18:42.100
a month

01:18:42.100 --> 01:18:43.600
for renting

01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:44.040
a dang

01:18:44.040 --> 01:18:44.960
cable box

01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:45.960
and I can't

01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:46.340
even own

01:18:46.340 --> 01:18:46.680
the damn

01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:47.020
thing

01:18:47.020 --> 01:18:48.640
whereas I

01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:49.340
think they

01:18:49.340 --> 01:18:49.880
will

01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:51.540
rent you a

01:18:51.540 --> 01:18:52.120
cable card

01:18:52.120 --> 01:18:52.560
for about

01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:53.200
half that

01:18:53.200 --> 01:18:53.780
for two

01:18:53.780 --> 01:18:54.080
bucks

01:18:54.080 --> 01:18:54.340
so you

01:18:54.340 --> 01:18:54.640
can have

01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:56.460
two digital

01:18:56.460 --> 01:18:57.320
receivers in

01:18:57.320 --> 01:18:57.740
each room

01:18:57.740 --> 01:18:58.160
for the same

01:18:58.160 --> 01:18:58.520
price of

01:18:58.520 --> 01:18:58.900
having a

01:18:58.900 --> 01:18:59.780
digital box

01:18:59.780 --> 01:19:01.820
so it's

01:19:01.820 --> 01:19:03.040
real nice

01:19:03.040 --> 01:19:05.180
cool

01:19:05.180 --> 01:19:06.040
we are almost

01:19:06.040 --> 01:19:06.600
out of time

01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:07.000
so I think

01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:07.440
we should

01:19:07.440 --> 01:19:08.700
head into

01:19:08.700 --> 01:19:09.000
yeah true

01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:10.240
actually it's

01:19:10.240 --> 01:19:10.620
a lot later

01:19:10.620 --> 01:19:10.980
than what I

01:19:10.980 --> 01:19:11.220
thought it

01:19:11.220 --> 01:19:11.440
was

01:19:11.440 --> 01:19:12.460
all right

01:19:12.460 --> 01:19:12.800
do we have

01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:13.240
announcements

01:19:13.240 --> 01:19:14.500
oh yeah

01:19:14.500 --> 01:19:14.760
it's like

01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:15.540
2600 meetings

01:19:15.540 --> 01:19:15.900
this week

01:19:15.900 --> 01:19:16.280
isn't it

01:19:16.280 --> 01:19:16.520
yeah

01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:17.380
2600 meetings

01:19:17.380 --> 01:19:17.980
this week

01:19:17.980 --> 01:19:19.980
if you're in

01:19:19.980 --> 01:19:20.540
Los Angeles

01:19:20.540 --> 01:19:21.520
Union Station

01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:22.100
then Feliz

01:19:22.100 --> 01:19:24.560
then Denny's

01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:27.440
Boston

01:19:27.440 --> 01:19:28.060
you know

01:19:28.060 --> 01:19:28.660
Prudential Center

01:19:28.660 --> 01:19:29.720
I actually

01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:30.260
hope to be

01:19:30.260 --> 01:19:30.620
there this

01:19:30.620 --> 01:19:30.860
time

01:19:30.860 --> 01:19:31.800
I've kind

01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:32.360
of you

01:19:32.360 --> 01:19:32.500
know

01:19:32.500 --> 01:19:33.280
run up

01:19:33.280 --> 01:19:33.840
and run

01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:34.220
into all

01:19:34.220 --> 01:19:34.560
kinds of

01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:35.000
issues

01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:35.600
with my

01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:39.080
2600 meeting

01:19:39.080 --> 01:19:39.360
over the

01:19:39.360 --> 01:19:39.740
past couple

01:19:39.740 --> 01:19:40.000
of months

01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:40.420
but hopefully

01:19:40.420 --> 01:19:40.960
this time

01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:42.060
I will be

01:19:42.060 --> 01:19:42.420
there

01:19:42.420 --> 01:19:44.380
signing autographs

01:19:44.380 --> 01:19:45.180
and dealing

01:19:45.180 --> 01:19:45.480
with the

01:19:45.480 --> 01:19:45.960
groupies

01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:46.480
and all

01:19:46.480 --> 01:19:46.780
that kind

01:19:46.780 --> 01:19:47.120
of stuff

01:19:47.120 --> 01:19:47.960
or something

01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:51.120
useless

01:19:51.120 --> 01:19:51.500
do you have

01:19:51.500 --> 01:19:52.080
a 2600

01:19:52.080 --> 01:19:52.260
meeting

01:19:52.260 --> 01:19:52.440
that you

01:19:52.440 --> 01:19:52.780
go to

01:19:52.780 --> 01:19:53.060
or

01:19:53.060 --> 01:19:54.580
I do

01:19:54.580 --> 01:19:55.000
but I

01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:55.620
keep forgetting

01:19:55.620 --> 01:19:56.280
what the

01:19:56.280 --> 01:19:56.620
name of the

01:19:56.620 --> 01:19:57.540
place is

01:19:57.540 --> 01:19:58.920
hang on

01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:00.000
I don't even

01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:00.480
know where you

01:20:00.480 --> 01:20:00.700
are

01:20:00.700 --> 01:20:01.220
where are you

01:20:01.220 --> 01:20:02.360
by the way

01:20:02.360 --> 01:20:03.160
San Diego

01:20:03.160 --> 01:20:04.640
San Diego

01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:06.060
sunny San Diego

01:20:06.060 --> 01:20:06.600
one of the

01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:07.200
most expensive

01:20:07.200 --> 01:20:07.920
places to live

01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:08.480
you did mention

01:20:08.480 --> 01:20:08.920
that earlier

01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:09.880
didn't you

01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:10.560
yeah

01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:14.580
you know I

01:20:14.580 --> 01:20:15.060
can't remember

01:20:15.060 --> 01:20:15.480
for the life

01:20:15.480 --> 01:20:15.660
of me

01:20:15.660 --> 01:20:16.020
what the

01:20:16.020 --> 01:20:16.320
name of

01:20:16.320 --> 01:20:18.040
the pizza

01:20:18.040 --> 01:20:18.580
place is

01:20:18.580 --> 01:20:18.840
that we

01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:19.360
meet at

01:20:19.360 --> 01:20:21.920
Regents

01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:22.280
Pizza

01:20:22.280 --> 01:20:23.000
there we

01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:23.820
go

01:20:23.820 --> 01:20:24.700
we meet at

01:20:24.700 --> 01:20:25.700
Regents Pizza

01:20:25.700 --> 01:20:26.480
it's in

01:20:26.480 --> 01:20:26.820
La Jolla

01:20:26.820 --> 01:20:27.460
on Regents

01:20:27.460 --> 01:20:27.820
Road

01:20:27.820 --> 01:20:30.180
so for

01:20:30.180 --> 01:20:30.620
those of

01:20:30.620 --> 01:20:30.940
you that

01:20:30.940 --> 01:20:31.380
live

01:20:31.380 --> 01:20:32.080
somewhere

01:20:32.080 --> 01:20:33.260
in the

01:20:33.260 --> 01:20:33.900
San Diego

01:20:33.900 --> 01:20:34.380
county

01:20:34.380 --> 01:20:34.700
that's

01:20:34.700 --> 01:20:34.960
probably

01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:35.420
your best

01:20:35.420 --> 01:20:35.780
bet

01:20:35.780 --> 01:20:39.360
are there

01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:39.600
a lot of

01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:39.920
people that

01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:40.300
go to the

01:20:40.300 --> 01:20:40.840
San Diego

01:20:40.840 --> 01:20:41.400
2600

01:20:41.400 --> 01:20:42.260
I'm just

01:20:42.260 --> 01:20:42.940
asking questions

01:20:42.940 --> 01:20:43.400
at this point

01:20:43.400 --> 01:20:44.540
there's probably

01:20:44.540 --> 01:20:45.780
25 to 30

01:20:45.780 --> 01:20:46.300
including

01:20:46.300 --> 01:20:47.180
Lance

01:20:47.180 --> 01:20:48.040
goes to the

01:20:48.040 --> 01:20:48.600
2600

01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:48.920
meeting

01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:49.760
awesome

01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:50.540
oh so

01:20:50.540 --> 01:20:51.160
meet Lance

01:20:51.160 --> 01:20:51.720
James

01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:53.300
friend of

01:20:53.300 --> 01:20:54.180
Strom Carlson

01:20:54.180 --> 01:20:54.900
yes and if

01:20:54.900 --> 01:20:55.240
you're going to

01:20:55.240 --> 01:20:55.780
Los Angeles

01:20:55.780 --> 01:20:56.380
meet Strom

01:20:56.380 --> 01:20:57.000
Carlson

01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:58.040
co-host of

01:20:58.040 --> 01:20:58.420
BinRev

01:20:58.420 --> 01:20:58.680
Radio

01:20:58.680 --> 01:20:58.940
friend of

01:20:58.940 --> 01:20:59.160
Lance

01:20:59.160 --> 01:20:59.500
James

01:20:59.500 --> 01:21:00.040
friend of

01:21:00.040 --> 01:21:00.220
Lance

01:21:00.220 --> 01:21:00.480
James

01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:00.740
yeah

01:21:00.740 --> 01:21:03.920
all right

01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:04.700
useless do you

01:21:04.700 --> 01:21:04.920
have any

01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:05.200
shouts

01:21:05.200 --> 01:21:06.560
sure do

01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:07.400
okay I want

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to give

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shouts out to

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lucky 225

01:21:09.700 --> 01:21:10.620
who is god

01:21:10.620 --> 01:21:11.160
knows where

01:21:11.160 --> 01:21:12.020
now I don't

01:21:12.020 --> 01:21:12.400
even know what

01:21:12.400 --> 01:21:12.980
city he's in

01:21:12.980 --> 01:21:13.440
anymore

01:21:13.440 --> 01:21:15.060
but he's a

01:21:15.060 --> 01:21:15.360
dork

01:21:15.360 --> 01:21:16.880
sorry

01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:18.160
yeah

01:21:18.160 --> 01:21:20.640
shouts out to

01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:22.200
Jay

01:21:22.200 --> 01:21:22.880
Bershars

01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:24.520
I've had him

01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:24.900
on the show

01:21:24.900 --> 01:21:25.260
before

01:21:25.260 --> 01:21:25.900
good old

01:21:25.900 --> 01:21:26.300
Josh

01:21:26.300 --> 01:21:27.480
yeah

01:21:27.480 --> 01:21:28.480
and shouts

01:21:28.480 --> 01:21:28.840
to Lance

01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:29.280
James

01:21:29.280 --> 01:21:30.060
one of the

01:21:30.060 --> 01:21:30.560
bad-ass

01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:31.200
motherfuckers

01:21:31.200 --> 01:21:33.500
sweet

01:21:33.500 --> 01:21:34.080
oh he

01:21:34.080 --> 01:21:34.820
he released

01:21:34.820 --> 01:21:35.280
bad-ass

01:21:35.280 --> 01:21:35.780
motherfuckers

01:21:35.780 --> 01:21:36.000
status

01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:36.740
oh my god

01:21:36.740 --> 01:21:38.660
that's amazing

01:21:38.660 --> 01:21:40.440
uh Strom do you

01:21:40.440 --> 01:21:40.840
have any shows

01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:41.520
hmm

01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:42.400
shouts to Lance