WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:06.960 This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers 00:06.960 --> 00:11.820 I see in binary, I speak source code 00:11.820 --> 00:15.700 Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose 00:15.700 --> 00:18.320 In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho 00:18.320 --> 00:20.860 Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold 00:20.860 --> 00:22.640 I was a dick with my 56 00:22.640 --> 00:25.640 Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable 00:25.640 --> 00:27.920 On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo 00:27.920 --> 00:31.680 On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a Nero 00:31.680 --> 00:34.340 In a flash, I'll screw you on burning Dreamcast 00:34.340 --> 00:37.560 You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle 00:37.560 --> 00:39.600 Our exchange you could never stifle 00:39.600 --> 00:42.740 In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug 00:42.740 --> 00:46.760 I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z 00:46.760 --> 00:48.960 Your CG, it's all gonna be free 00:48.960 --> 00:51.360 Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely 00:51.360 --> 00:53.300 You feel that rattle in your bones? 00:53.300 --> 00:55.480 When I tell you we just packed out Jones 00:55.480 --> 00:57.620 And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back 00:57.620 --> 00:59.940 Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack 00:59.940 --> 01:02.760 Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack 01:02.760 --> 01:05.720 This is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers 01:05.720 --> 01:10.700 Cereal cards, source codes, ISOs, RANs, Sips, Sips 01:10.700 --> 01:13.440 This is dedicated to the hackers and the crackers 01:13.440 --> 01:15.480 Hey there, this is Black Ratchet 01:15.480 --> 01:23.180 This is June 27th, yeah, June 27th of Binary Revolution Radio, episode 154 01:23.180 --> 01:25.560 Wow, that's a lot 01:25.560 --> 01:27.700 People have been busy since I've been gone 01:27.700 --> 01:29.900 It's just me tonight, but don't worry 01:29.900 --> 01:31.700 You don't have to listen to me for like an hour and a half 01:31.700 --> 01:34.780 We, uh, Stank Dogg had to take the evening off 01:34.780 --> 01:37.580 He was called away on his high-powered business 01:37.580 --> 01:41.260 I think he had to assassinate some foreign government leader or something 01:41.260 --> 01:43.940 Actually, I've told you too much so far 01:43.940 --> 01:45.000 I've got to take my cyanide pill 01:45.000 --> 01:48.040 But, uh, it's something simple tonight 01:48.040 --> 01:50.580 I guess you could even call it a special 01:50.580 --> 01:54.420 Um, for those of you who aren't paying attention 01:54.420 --> 01:57.320 Don't hang out on the BINVREV forums with the freaks and geeks 01:57.320 --> 02:00.580 There was a recent major event 02:00.580 --> 02:03.880 There's a small town in Minnesota called Wawena 02:03.880 --> 02:06.820 And it's, I think it has a population of 02:06.820 --> 02:08.560 Albeit about 200 people in it 02:08.560 --> 02:10.520 But, if you're a phone freak 02:10.520 --> 02:11.640 It's a bit special 02:11.640 --> 02:13.500 Because this was the last place 02:13.500 --> 02:14.380 As far as we know 02:14.380 --> 02:17.800 In the lower, uh, 48 states 02:17.800 --> 02:21.340 That had an analog trunk going into it 02:21.340 --> 02:23.520 Now, for those of you who don't know what an analog trunk is 02:23.520 --> 02:28.040 Uh, basically, it's something that's controlled by, uh, tones 02:28.040 --> 02:29.660 A, like, say 02:29.660 --> 02:31.760 Oh, 2600 hertz 02:31.760 --> 02:36.300 And, I think most of you should know what that is 02:36.300 --> 02:37.820 But for the two of you that don't 02:37.820 --> 02:40.240 That means you can blue box off of it 02:40.240 --> 02:45.220 Sadly, recently, they decided to, uh 02:45.220 --> 02:47.420 Well, technically, they didn't really decide to 02:47.420 --> 02:50.020 One of the, uh, bays of equipment decided to fail 02:50.020 --> 02:51.380 Because it's, uh, about 02:51.380 --> 02:53.940 I'd say about 40 to 50 years old 02:53.940 --> 02:56.480 And they had to require the torque 02:56.480 --> 02:57.540 Retire the trunk 02:57.540 --> 03:00.640 However, the people up there were rather cool 03:00.640 --> 03:02.220 And decided to put up a message board 03:02.220 --> 03:04.080 For people to leave their farewell messages 03:04.080 --> 03:06.060 And chit-chat and talk 03:06.060 --> 03:10.360 So, I've just decided to take the easy way out 03:10.360 --> 03:12.960 And since, uh, Kyle L. decided not to show up 03:12.960 --> 03:14.820 To record the episode I originally had planned 03:14.820 --> 03:17.520 I've definitely decided to take the easy way out 03:17.520 --> 03:20.700 And just post some, uh, interesting messages on there 03:20.700 --> 03:23.620 There's freaks, there's folks, there's regular people 03:23.620 --> 03:26.820 There's, uh, telephone collectors and website masters 03:26.820 --> 03:30.000 And there's a couple of, uh, historical figures on there 03:30.000 --> 03:32.940 So, it's something that's a little bit interesting 03:32.940 --> 03:36.860 And you'd enjoy to hear what the phone sounded like 03:36.860 --> 03:38.320 About 30 years ago 03:38.320 --> 03:40.540 So, it's a simple episode 03:40.540 --> 03:42.460 Just sit back and enjoy 03:42.460 --> 03:44.100 I will forewarn you 03:44.100 --> 03:45.900 I did try to sanitize it a little bit 03:45.900 --> 03:47.440 Because there's people out there saying 03:47.440 --> 03:49.160 Hey, this is so-and-so 03:49.160 --> 03:50.480 From such-and-such 03:50.480 --> 03:52.420 In the, you know, eastern Indiana 03:52.420 --> 03:53.660 And here's my phone number 03:53.660 --> 03:57.860 And, um, I don't think they really wanted to be associated 03:57.860 --> 03:59.220 With a show like this 03:59.220 --> 04:02.260 So, I've, uh, sanitized it for your protection 04:02.260 --> 04:03.680 And their protection as well 04:03.680 --> 04:06.240 But, um, I kept it mostly intact 04:06.240 --> 04:09.080 For example, you'll hear some, uh, regular people on there 04:09.080 --> 04:10.240 Or people, not regular people 04:10.240 --> 04:11.540 But people you are familiar with 04:11.540 --> 04:14.540 So, sit back, enjoy, listen 04:14.540 --> 04:16.660 And, eh, whatever 04:16.660 --> 04:18.460 Pop a beer if you're over 21 04:27.860 --> 04:32.380 Test, this is a test 04:32.380 --> 04:37.320 The end of an era 04:37.320 --> 04:44.340 Hello, this is Irving 04:44.340 --> 04:45.300 Calling from the Netherlands 04:45.300 --> 04:45.800 Goodbye 04:45.800 --> 04:54.720 I used to be pretty good at just doing this 04:54.720 --> 05:05.840 This is a test of the final message 05:05.840 --> 05:12.180 Hello, this is 05:12.180 --> 05:15.200 And I'm going to try to whistle off this thing 05:15.200 --> 05:17.380 With a straw 05:17.380 --> 05:19.340 From one of those 32-ounce 05:19.340 --> 05:21.800 Insulated soft drink cups 05:21.800 --> 05:23.280 Here we go 05:23.280 --> 05:43.260 Must not be quite 05:43.260 --> 05:44.240 2600 05:44.240 --> 05:49.060 Okay 05:49.060 --> 05:51.660 Let's try this again 05:51.660 --> 05:55.400 Hello, this is 05:55.400 --> 05:58.140 From Casco, Michigan 05:58.140 --> 05:59.740 Between Detroit and Port Huron 05:59.740 --> 06:01.620 Wishing you, Bob and Shane 06:01.620 --> 06:02.540 Good luck 06:02.540 --> 06:04.160 And the last call 06:04.160 --> 06:05.180 Take care 06:05.180 --> 06:06.180 It's great to hear this 06:06.180 --> 06:06.740 Bye-bye 06:06.740 --> 06:12.960 From California 06:12.960 --> 06:14.240 Saying goodbye 06:14.240 --> 06:15.340 And two 06:15.340 --> 06:22.420 Hello 06:22.420 --> 06:22.480 Hello 06:22.480 --> 06:23.080 Hello 06:23.080 --> 06:24.080 Hello 06:24.080 --> 06:25.720 Hello 06:25.720 --> 06:31.620 Hello, this is 06:31.620 --> 06:33.760 In Louisville, Kentucky 06:33.760 --> 06:35.660 And I'm going to try to 06:35.660 --> 06:38.040 Squeak this thing off 06:38.040 --> 06:40.500 And if I don't succeed 06:40.500 --> 06:42.780 Or if you think this message is too ridiculous 06:42.780 --> 06:46.020 Please feel free to delete it 06:46.020 --> 07:06.880 A brief comparison of the N2 terminals with the N1 predecessor 07:06.880 --> 07:13.080 The N2 terminal could have 96 channels in a 11 foot 6 inch bay 07:13.080 --> 07:16.300 Where as opposed to the N1 was only 36 channels 07:16.300 --> 07:23.040 The power per channel end was 28.8 watts on the N1 versus 4.8 in the N2 07:23.040 --> 07:27.960 Channel frequency response in the N1 was 220 to 3040 at 3 dB down 07:27.960 --> 07:31.560 Where as the N2 was 200 to 3400 hertz 07:31.560 --> 07:36.580 Net loss stability was 4 to 1 improvement on the N1 with the N2 07:36.580 --> 07:41.180 Commander tracking error was 1.4 dB worst case in the N1 07:41.180 --> 07:44.700 As opposed to 0.07 in the N2 07:44.700 --> 07:48.380 Peak overload factor in the N1 was plus 5 dB 07:48.380 --> 07:57.300 Whereas it improved to plus 10 in the N2 07:57.300 --> 07:58.220 Yes, this is 07:58.220 --> 08:00.940 From Cleveland, Ohio 08:00.940 --> 08:05.000 The information I provided comparing the N1 and the N2 terminals earlier 08:05.000 --> 08:08.460 Was provided from the history of the engineering and science of the Dell system 08:08.460 --> 08:11.780 Transmission technology 1925 to 1975 08:11.780 --> 08:14.300 I did want to point out as well 08:14.300 --> 08:20.060 That the N2 was a fully redesigned solid state replacement for the N1 08:20.060 --> 08:24.540 The N1A repeater was also a solid state design 08:24.540 --> 08:27.180 That was rushed out to replace the N1 08:27.180 --> 08:33.240 Although it was not a very creative use of the solid state technology 08:33.240 --> 08:37.160 N2, however, was fully designed as a solid state circuit 08:37.160 --> 08:40.580 Goodbye and good luck 08:44.300 --> 08:46.060 Good afternoon 08:46.060 --> 08:49.140 The Bell Telephone Company brings you the correct time 08:49.140 --> 08:52.500 2.05 and 30 seconds 08:52.500 --> 08:54.580 This is a recording 08:54.580 --> 09:02.740 Hello, this is Mark Bernay calling from San Francisco, California 09:02.740 --> 09:06.180 I normally make calls using voice over IP 09:06.180 --> 09:08.840 But I'm making this one over a real SBC phone line 09:08.840 --> 09:13.180 Because it'll probably make the whistling that I'll do later work more effectively 09:13.180 --> 09:17.940 If you'd like to learn more about these types of carrier systems 09:17.940 --> 09:20.780 And the old telephone network where this kind of stuff is very common 09:20.780 --> 09:24.600 Please go to my website that I run with, Evan Dorbel 09:24.600 --> 09:39.860 And now I'm going to whistle this off with a real honest-to-God Cap'n Crunch whistle 09:39.860 --> 09:42.060 From the old cereal boxes 09:42.060 --> 09:44.300 Good 09:44.300 --> 09:48.960 That didn't work, did it? 09:51.560 --> 09:53.080 Well, I whistled off the time 09:53.080 --> 09:54.740 So let me see if I can whistle you off 09:54.740 --> 10:18.140 No such luck, I guess 10:18.140 --> 10:21.540 I wish I had my whistle 10:21.540 --> 10:29.240 Hi, this is calling 10:29.240 --> 10:31.420 From Wakefield, Mass 10:31.420 --> 10:32.860 I'm part of the Telephone Museum 10:32.860 --> 10:34.280 In Ellsworth 10:34.280 --> 10:37.500 And I guess I have to record a message on this circuit 10:37.500 --> 10:39.040 One last time 10:39.040 --> 10:42.020 If I get a chance and it hasn't been taken down too soon 10:42.020 --> 10:44.440 I'll have to get my 2600 dial pulse test set 10:44.440 --> 10:47.560 See if I can dial in to some different 10:47.560 --> 10:50.460 Final stations 10:50.460 --> 10:53.800 On the station end of the switch with 2600 pulsing 10:53.800 --> 10:56.540 But probably won't be able to get it out before this is taken down 10:56.540 --> 10:58.560 Take care 10:58.560 --> 11:04.980 This is Bob Bernay 11:04.980 --> 11:10.600 Hi, this is Millington, Michigan 11:10.600 --> 11:15.180 I wanted to call on this last N2 system 11:15.180 --> 11:20.740 I started my career back in the late 1970s 11:20.740 --> 11:23.740 And we had Lynch version of N2 11:23.740 --> 11:24.860 Which is a B410 11:24.860 --> 11:26.560 Which was direct connected to 11:26.560 --> 11:29.560 End-to-end compatible with Western N2 11:29.560 --> 11:31.260 Which they had on their end 11:31.260 --> 11:32.340 The bell end of it 11:32.340 --> 11:34.380 Also had some ON2 11:34.380 --> 11:37.080 Which was a tube type carrier 11:37.080 --> 11:38.700 So 11:38.700 --> 11:40.200 Anyway, good luck 11:40.200 --> 11:41.200 And this is 11:41.200 --> 11:44.260 I didn't realize there was any of this stuff still in use 11:44.260 --> 11:45.080 So it's fascinating 11:45.080 --> 11:46.420 Bye 11:46.420 --> 11:54.620 Hi there 11:54.620 --> 11:54.980 This is 11:54.980 --> 11:57.200 From Telephone World 11:57.200 --> 12:00.500 www.dmind.com 12:00.500 --> 12:05.100 I was just calling here 12:05.100 --> 12:06.860 To check out the system 12:06.860 --> 12:08.720 For one of the last final times 12:08.720 --> 12:10.080 Before the N2 goes away 12:10.080 --> 12:13.120 If Shane listens to this 12:13.120 --> 12:14.860 Hopefully things go well 12:14.860 --> 12:16.500 With the transfer over to the T1s 12:16.500 --> 12:18.280 I'll talk to you all sometime later 12:18.280 --> 12:18.660 Bye 12:18.660 --> 12:48.640 I'll talk to you all 12:48.660 --> 12:50.660 Bye 13:18.660 --> 13:30.720 Hi, Bob and everyone else. 13:31.260 --> 13:33.480 This is Charlie from the East Coast. 13:34.860 --> 13:40.040 I don't know how many digits that switch is looking for coming in, whether it's DP or what, 13:40.140 --> 13:45.940 but I couldn't get anything but reorder tone out of it, and my TPS-59B is tired. 13:45.940 --> 13:51.940 That's what happens when something sits around for 25 or 30 years, all the capacitors die in it. 13:52.280 --> 13:53.980 Good luck, and sorry to see this go. 13:55.060 --> 13:56.600 Kind of a sad, historic day. 13:57.840 --> 13:58.580 Take care. 14:04.560 --> 14:08.960 Louisville, Kentucky, here to whistle this thing off with a packet 8 line 14:08.960 --> 14:15.940 and see how the whistle and how the $2,600 I'm about to send down the line gets transmitted. 14:16.160 --> 14:24.260 Well, probably just get a little bitty cheap, but packet 8 lets you talk to an on-hook connection, 14:24.660 --> 14:28.200 whereas AT&T will not let you talk to an on-hook connection. 14:28.200 --> 14:34.940 So I'm sure as soon as this thing went on-hook, AT&T would cut me off immediately, 14:35.260 --> 14:38.520 but I couldn't talk anymore even if I wanted to. 14:39.620 --> 14:49.300 Anyway, this $2,600 is being generated by what was once a touch-tone dialer program for the Linux operating system, 14:49.600 --> 14:52.360 which dials touch-tones through your sound card. 14:52.360 --> 15:05.260 And I modify it to be an MF dialer and also put in a 2600 Hz tone as one of the things you could dial with it. 15:05.960 --> 15:11.200 So this is going to be coming out of my sound card and going into the microphone, 15:11.620 --> 15:18.040 the ear, the mouthpiece of my telephone, and here we go. 15:18.040 --> 15:25.200 This is Jeff in Atlanta, Old Southern Bell Territory, and I'm on a Barry 314-8. 15:28.900 --> 15:31.120 Let's try a 2600 in front of that. 15:41.460 --> 15:46.480 Yeah, this is Captain Crunch here, and I wish I could blow 2600, but I haven't got any more teeth. 15:46.480 --> 15:50.620 Thanks. Farewell to the N2 carrier system, last in the country. 15:51.680 --> 15:53.600 Oh, man, I wish I could go with you. 15:54.400 --> 15:58.660 It's been a great, great time, I have to admit, Mr. N2 carrier system. 15:59.420 --> 16:01.000 We've all had fun playing with you. 16:01.260 --> 16:01.800 Bye-bye. 16:02.400 --> 16:03.960 Captain Crunch, over and out. 16:06.920 --> 16:08.280 Wow, this is pretty historic. 16:08.760 --> 16:10.540 This is Charlie again from the Boston area. 16:10.540 --> 16:12.340 I think it's Jason. 16:12.460 --> 16:16.140 I've got to thank you for letting me know that that thing you think is looking for MF 16:16.140 --> 16:18.580 in terms of the addressing digits rather than SF. 16:19.280 --> 16:25.620 Of course, a lot of you probably know that on a lot of old switches that used SF signaling, 16:25.800 --> 16:29.600 step-offs and whatever, they just used dial-pulsed SF, 16:29.980 --> 16:34.240 which was turned back into E and Emily pulses at the switch. 16:34.240 --> 16:36.020 So I thought this might have been doing that. 16:37.100 --> 16:40.200 I tried a few MF digits, and I only got reorder from that, too. 16:40.480 --> 16:47.340 And, Jason, you can fool the AT&T side to let you talk to or listen to reorder coming from an on-hook. 16:47.660 --> 16:52.940 Just make sure that your 2600 is on there as you place the call so it never goes off-hook. 16:53.980 --> 16:58.480 It won't mind seeing the wink from the other end when you unapply and apply the 2600. 16:58.480 --> 17:02.300 But if it goes fully off-hook, like answering the recording, 17:03.560 --> 17:07.320 you can check the off-hook timer, so to speak. 17:07.380 --> 17:08.640 It's a software timer today. 17:09.440 --> 17:10.800 That's when you get into a problem. 17:12.540 --> 17:19.380 That prevents a certain method of toll fraud that a lot of people used to use a long time ago. 17:20.880 --> 17:21.860 Anyway, take care. 17:22.180 --> 17:24.160 And it's pretty neat to listen to all these chirps, 17:24.160 --> 17:27.720 and I have to say all these crazy people. 17:28.480 --> 17:29.600 We'll have to listen to this thing. 17:31.240 --> 17:32.480 Maybe someone can tell me. 17:32.580 --> 17:37.220 I'm pretty sure that N2 does not have 2600 cycle signaling built into it. 17:37.700 --> 17:41.120 If it was like N1, it had 3700 cycling built into it. 17:41.200 --> 17:42.020 No one ever used it. 17:42.020 --> 17:42.780 It wasn't very good. 17:42.960 --> 17:46.440 So everybody always applies separate 2600 signaling equipment. 17:46.840 --> 17:48.900 I suspect this is Westcom or Tellab. 17:49.160 --> 17:51.820 Tellab 2600 signaling equipment on this circuit. 17:51.820 --> 17:52.560 Bye-bye. 17:52.560 --> 17:59.900 Hi, this is Charlie from the East Coast again. 18:00.920 --> 18:02.360 I just can't leave this thing alone. 18:03.140 --> 18:05.760 I just have to say to Bob, and I don't know Shane, 18:05.760 --> 18:09.660 but this is one beautiful-sounding carrier system. 18:11.700 --> 18:14.820 Boy, has it been well-maintained, and levels are really good. 18:15.000 --> 18:17.540 It is clean and nice and truly toll-grade. 18:18.840 --> 18:21.880 I forgot how good that stuff could sound when it was really working right, 18:22.300 --> 18:22.940 and this one is. 18:23.660 --> 18:24.160 Take care. 18:24.160 --> 18:35.720 This is recording. 18:39.020 --> 18:39.540 Oh. 18:42.640 --> 18:43.360 Good timer. 18:46.940 --> 18:47.420 Hello. 18:48.360 --> 18:53.480 I'm going to try to ring off this thing with a genuine Captain Crunch whistle. 18:53.480 --> 19:00.060 I picked it up on eBay as a, oh, little piece of telecommunications heritage, 19:00.240 --> 19:01.080 for better or worse. 19:01.960 --> 19:04.840 The whistle actually has two chimes to it. 19:05.300 --> 19:08.860 It came with a box of Captain Crunch cereal, of course. 19:10.520 --> 19:13.600 One chime, to make it work properly, well, here it is. 19:15.280 --> 19:17.880 Oh, I don't know if my last message recorded or not, 19:17.880 --> 19:22.640 but it looks like even if both tones are sent, 19:23.020 --> 19:26.520 it will certainly detect the proper tone. 19:27.320 --> 19:30.980 I'm going to try this again with just a single 2600 hertz tone, 19:31.220 --> 19:36.140 and I guess there won't be too many chances for this to happen again in history, 19:36.140 --> 19:42.760 except for those who decide to keep a few end carriers working themselves with 2600 hertz signaling. 19:43.760 --> 19:45.460 Anybody got another end for an end carrier? 19:45.580 --> 19:46.060 I got one. 19:46.560 --> 19:47.340 Talk to you all later. 19:49.640 --> 19:50.080 Hello. 19:51.080 --> 19:54.940 Calling from a historic number five toll test board. 19:55.940 --> 19:56.860 Another dinosaur. 19:56.860 --> 20:00.040 I'm going to attempt to whistle off. 20:00.220 --> 20:02.720 I tried to do this earlier, but I don't know if the message is recorded. 20:03.020 --> 20:09.080 I have a Captain Crunch whistle that I picked up on eBay as part of our telecommunications heritage. 20:10.140 --> 20:13.900 And to describe the whistle, it has actually two tones. 20:15.080 --> 20:18.900 One of them is about as close to 2600 hertz as you would care to make. 20:18.980 --> 20:21.780 I don't know who designed the whistle, but they must have had some ulterior motives. 20:21.780 --> 20:28.320 The last time I tried this, blowing with both tones will knock it off. 20:29.100 --> 20:33.620 So I will do so and wish everybody good luck. 20:33.940 --> 20:39.680 And, well, I guess the T1 always has good luck because they've been around for a while too now. 20:39.880 --> 20:42.960 So, anyway, so long and farewell. 20:45.520 --> 20:48.440 This is Charlie from the east again, Boston area. 20:48.440 --> 20:52.860 I just wanted you to know it takes seven digits of MS. 20:53.360 --> 20:54.860 No ST, no KT. 20:55.840 --> 20:57.240 That's what the end office needs. 20:59.000 --> 20:59.640 That's all. 21:10.760 --> 21:11.160 Okay. 21:11.160 --> 21:17.600 Hi, this is from Denver, Colorado. 21:19.080 --> 21:32.320 In the 1970s, I did a fair amount of playing with the telephone network and eventually was lucky enough to get a job with the telephone company that serves this region and have just recently retired. 21:32.320 --> 21:37.880 Yeah, N2 was a type of carrier we had around the New York area an awful lot. 21:38.220 --> 21:43.900 And I certainly used it to great advantage. 21:44.340 --> 21:56.040 It's amazing the routes that we were able to construct from the local network in the New York region. 21:56.040 --> 21:58.960 And it was a great deal of fun. 21:59.340 --> 22:03.040 And as far as we know, so this is the last SF link as far as we know. 22:04.140 --> 22:19.500 It's, I guess we're lucky that the REDCOM, I guess, doesn't support signaling system seven because it would have been kind of not a whole lot of fun to have a nice analog carrier link with no way of signaling. 22:19.500 --> 22:25.220 So, I thought I would leave this message on what sounds to me like an asterisk system. 22:25.360 --> 22:27.000 We'll find out in a second, I suppose. 22:27.780 --> 22:31.020 And have a good day. 22:33.020 --> 22:33.900 Hello, party. 22:34.160 --> 22:36.420 This is Al Bernay from Los Angeles. 22:36.800 --> 22:40.820 I just found out about this carrier disappearing. 22:40.820 --> 22:44.360 And I'm almost in tears. 22:45.260 --> 22:47.980 It was very traditional back in my time. 22:49.280 --> 22:57.500 And one niner, eight niner is the last I heard of an N1 carrier for Catalina Island. 22:57.980 --> 23:02.080 You could whistle off the last four digits, but not the prefix. 23:02.820 --> 23:06.400 Then you could redial the last four digits by whistling. 23:06.400 --> 23:11.140 Then I think they went to N2 for a few weeks. 23:12.040 --> 23:13.100 And then that was it. 23:14.920 --> 23:17.740 So, I am in mourning. 23:19.580 --> 23:20.180 Goodbye. 23:23.240 --> 23:24.140 Well, hello. 23:24.300 --> 23:25.960 This is Joy Bubbles in Minneapolis. 23:26.300 --> 23:27.960 Joy Bubbles is all one word. 23:27.960 --> 23:36.600 And, yeah, I was whistling back in 1954 and 55 when I'd call Mommy Collect. 23:36.900 --> 23:38.300 And I'd say, I'll whistle you goodnight. 23:38.400 --> 23:39.540 And I'd go, whistling. 23:40.580 --> 23:43.200 And it would click clunk, clunk, you know. 23:43.460 --> 23:47.000 And the operator would come in, are you through? 23:47.140 --> 23:47.680 Are you through? 23:47.860 --> 23:49.720 Of course, it was operator only back then. 23:50.560 --> 23:53.660 And you'd say, that doesn't sound at all like 2600. 23:53.740 --> 23:54.420 Well, it isn't. 23:54.500 --> 23:55.420 It's 1600. 23:56.780 --> 23:59.380 But I can still, I think I can still whistle 26. 23:59.600 --> 24:00.540 I'll try that in a minute. 24:00.660 --> 24:02.280 But I'm looking for some information. 24:03.000 --> 24:09.860 Speaking of tones, if you know the frequency that was used in telephone calls from trains over VHF radio, 24:09.860 --> 24:17.840 it was single frequency, long tone to get dial tone, kind of a second, then pulse for dial pulse, rotary dial, 24:17.960 --> 24:20.400 and then another long tone when they were ready to hang up. 24:20.660 --> 24:22.980 It was between about 22 and 2400. 24:23.540 --> 24:33.120 If some railroad buff can find that, it was used on VHF all over the country, I think, like 160 or 161 megahertz, megacycles back then. 24:33.120 --> 24:39.060 You can reach me at Iowa, 641-985-5999. 24:39.620 --> 24:41.620 And what else but extension 2600? 24:42.380 --> 24:43.540 Would I have any other extension? 24:43.640 --> 24:44.420 Oh, that's right. 24:44.520 --> 24:45.380 I almost forgot. 24:46.000 --> 24:50.980 There is another 2600 or N1 or N2 carrier link. 24:51.800 --> 24:57.420 And the last of all places, 907-295-2600 is a non-working number. 24:58.280 --> 25:03.680 8888 is one of those where you get the answering machine and it tells what the temperature is and the electricity is on. 25:03.760 --> 25:09.320 And then you have, I think, 10 seconds or so to monitor the room, something like that. 25:09.780 --> 25:12.480 And that's 297-295. 25:12.560 --> 25:14.600 Not living good, but living good. 25:14.660 --> 25:16.880 L-I-V-E-N-G-O-O-D. 25:17.720 --> 25:20.840 Can I still remember how to whistle 26 like I used to? 25:20.920 --> 25:21.260 Let's see. 25:23.180 --> 25:24.300 My lips are dry. 25:24.300 --> 25:29.320 Hey there, this is in Palo Alto, California. 25:29.560 --> 25:32.760 And I just wanted to call and say thanks for putting up this wonderful system. 25:32.840 --> 25:33.900 It's a lovely bit of history. 25:34.300 --> 25:38.200 I'm actually working on a book and a website on the history of phone freaking. 25:38.880 --> 25:43.600 And if anyone has any stories or anything they'd like to contribute, please give me a call. 25:43.740 --> 25:47.080 You can reach me at or send email to. 25:48.520 --> 25:49.320 Thanks so much. 25:49.500 --> 25:49.740 Bye-bye. 25:49.740 --> 25:55.660 Well, this is Joy Bubbles in Minneapolis. 25:55.880 --> 26:01.500 In case you want to monitor the NASA feeds and the air to ground and stuff, they have a bunch of lines. 26:01.680 --> 26:04.700 321-867-1220. 26:04.700 --> 26:10.360 And let me just see how it sounds when I do some old dial pulsing. 26:10.400 --> 26:12.800 I used to whistle dial pulse. 26:12.880 --> 26:15.200 That's what got me the name of the Whistler anyway. 26:16.020 --> 26:23.140 Except in Fort Myers, Florida, I could go over there and stay at a motel and they didn't ticket on area codes plus 555. 26:23.140 --> 26:35.300 And I could actually just flash and get the wink because the NX-1 crossbar then actually had kind of DC flash through. 26:35.460 --> 26:36.880 So I could flash and get a wink. 26:37.500 --> 26:40.200 And instead of whistling, I could dial on dial pulse. 26:41.380 --> 26:43.980 And the dial pulses would go right through non-ticketing. 26:44.180 --> 26:46.820 Boy, was that ever a long-distance haven back in 1970. 26:47.360 --> 26:49.360 Well, anyway, it's changed since then. 26:49.360 --> 26:53.680 Their NX-1 that they have now just doesn't sound the same. 26:54.320 --> 26:55.080 DMS-100? 26:55.320 --> 26:55.780 Oh, really? 26:55.960 --> 26:58.840 Anyway, let me do some dial pulsing here. 27:00.400 --> 27:01.400 Cut it right off. 27:01.460 --> 27:02.680 Let me do some short pulses. 27:02.960 --> 27:03.700 Let's see what happens. 27:10.120 --> 27:11.420 Do it a little longer. 27:11.580 --> 27:16.760 I can tell frequencies by ear between about 1 and 2 percent on the number of hertz. 27:16.760 --> 27:23.880 So I wish I could go back and delete my own messages so I won't pick up so many. 27:23.940 --> 27:25.040 I'm going to do one more anyway. 27:25.160 --> 27:28.020 I just want to do some short and longer pulses. 27:28.260 --> 27:31.140 It doesn't take a long one to whistle it off. 27:31.460 --> 27:34.160 It's just about 300 milliseconds, I guess. 27:34.840 --> 27:36.540 Pretty quick SF unit. 27:36.540 --> 27:42.400 Some of the older ones were like 750 milliseconds years ago, back in the 50s and stuff. 27:42.580 --> 27:47.060 Well, 1600 had a worse talk-off problem anyway than 2600. 27:47.740 --> 27:51.380 But anyway, let me get my lips ready here. 27:55.480 --> 28:00.120 If I do it short, that was probably about 100, 150 milliseconds. 28:00.120 --> 28:06.340 Yeah, I could skip through the messages with the pound sign, which is convenient, 28:07.080 --> 28:09.120 since I've heard the previous ones. 28:14.640 --> 28:16.680 Let's go just a little bit low. 28:19.160 --> 28:21.140 Hello, this is Joe from Boston. 28:21.140 --> 28:24.000 I'm going to see if I can whistle this off. 28:31.660 --> 28:32.720 It may not work. 28:32.780 --> 28:33.460 I hope it works. 28:33.860 --> 28:34.460 I don't know. 28:40.640 --> 28:41.620 Oh, it didn't work. 28:41.780 --> 28:42.400 I wonder why. 28:42.400 --> 28:42.460 I wonder why. 28:51.140 --> 28:52.100 Huh. 28:52.640 --> 28:53.420 That is interesting. 28:53.560 --> 28:55.020 Let me try it again. 29:00.100 --> 29:01.080 This is Russ. 29:01.780 --> 29:03.560 Just paying my last respects. 29:04.440 --> 29:04.760 Goodbye. 29:09.100 --> 29:09.860 Good afternoon. 29:09.960 --> 29:10.620 Good morning, folks. 29:10.700 --> 29:15.100 This is Joe from Boston, Tuesday, May 30th, 2007. 29:17.600 --> 29:18.400 9-19. 29:18.400 --> 29:23.520 I used to use my voice like Joy Bubbles did, and I got caught with a phone company. 29:23.800 --> 29:28.180 I would like some help in getting a few of those Captain Crunch whistles so I could have one. 29:28.800 --> 29:30.040 My email is... 29:30.040 --> 29:31.740 You could send me an email. 29:33.780 --> 29:35.380 And I'd like to get that whistle. 29:35.380 --> 29:37.900 I'm going to try whistling this off here because this is not illegal. 29:38.000 --> 29:38.940 This is just a test. 29:41.860 --> 29:43.840 Hello, this is Joe from Boston again. 29:44.040 --> 29:44.960 I whistled it off. 29:45.020 --> 29:45.660 It worked right. 29:46.040 --> 29:48.160 It's Tuesday, May 30th, 9-26. 29:48.400 --> 29:53.700 9-21 a.m., sorry. 29:53.780 --> 29:56.180 If anybody wishes to reach me, my phone number is... 29:56.180 --> 30:00.840 I was doing this like Joy Bubbles and Bill Acker in the 60s. 30:00.860 --> 30:01.760 I mean, the 80s. 30:01.780 --> 30:02.540 I got caught, though. 30:02.600 --> 30:03.280 I didn't... 30:03.280 --> 30:08.060 I used a tape recorder with the MF tones, and I would go to pay phones and do it. 30:08.060 --> 30:12.200 So I'd like to get one of those boxes, just a relic, just to keep. 30:13.340 --> 30:16.940 And if anyone could help me, I'd appreciate it. 30:16.940 --> 30:19.980 But this is the last of the Mohicans. 30:19.980 --> 30:22.240 It's too bad they don't leave this stuff around. 30:22.240 --> 30:24.080 I'd like to get... 30:24.080 --> 30:25.500 There used to be a device you can buy. 30:25.580 --> 30:26.480 You can hear everything. 30:26.620 --> 30:32.120 It's a little telephone device, like a telephone, like a box with this type of equipment set up. 30:32.460 --> 30:36.020 You can hear the tones, and you could whistle them off. 30:36.100 --> 30:37.400 So I'm going to give one more whistle. 30:38.400 --> 30:39.760 And my phone number is... 30:39.760 --> 30:41.600 I'm a friend of Joy Bubbles. 30:42.860 --> 30:44.760 This is the last of the Mohicans. 30:45.280 --> 30:49.400 So if anybody can be of some help with an extra whistle or two, I would appreciate it. 30:56.160 --> 30:57.400 Oh, this is... 30:57.400 --> 30:58.560 And it worked. 30:58.840 --> 31:01.940 And I wanted to say thanks to the people for putting this up. 31:03.120 --> 31:04.660 And I just wish they would leave it around. 31:04.900 --> 31:07.960 But I did the whistle, and it does work, and it's legal. 31:07.960 --> 31:09.160 We're not breaking no law. 31:09.160 --> 31:10.740 This is just put up as a test. 31:11.840 --> 31:14.360 You leave a message, and you can hear it on the other end. 31:15.220 --> 31:16.360 So thanks a bunch. 31:17.280 --> 31:18.160 Remember... 31:18.160 --> 31:19.160 Bye-bye. 31:22.940 --> 31:25.820 So I want to see if this times out if I stop talking. 31:26.720 --> 31:35.080 But the time number, you can get an on-hook supervision time on 488-8463, which spells time. 31:35.080 --> 31:42.100 And then 488-8464 will be the time that goes off-hook, and you can hear the hang-up. 31:42.100 --> 32:09.580 Well, now I'm going to dial my mailbox in Brisbane, Australia, where I whistled with my lips into it, and play the greeting that has the 2600 on it, and see if we can whistle off from Australia. 32:09.580 --> 32:14.980 There we go. 32:15.100 --> 32:21.380 Let me give a ring, Australian ring, a few times, I think, before it goes into the voicemail. 32:21.380 --> 32:26.900 A little whistle off from Australia. 32:27.020 --> 32:30.380 I guess there's no reason why not, but... 32:30.380 --> 32:30.920 Hi there. 32:31.020 --> 32:31.860 This is Joy Bubbles. 32:31.980 --> 32:32.920 I'm a blind person. 32:33.500 --> 32:33.840 Whoops. 32:34.040 --> 32:35.200 It didn't take the... 32:35.200 --> 32:35.480 Whoops. 32:35.480 --> 32:36.580 I dialed the wrong one. 32:36.660 --> 32:37.380 That's what happened. 32:47.860 --> 32:48.220 There. 32:48.300 --> 32:49.920 Now I got the right Australia box. 32:49.980 --> 32:52.000 That's what happens when you have too many mailboxes. 32:52.700 --> 32:53.820 This one will be the one. 32:54.240 --> 32:55.760 I had the other one on speed calling. 32:55.760 --> 33:12.260 Kind of a noob, but wishing everybody a good day. 33:12.440 --> 33:12.920 I don't know, man. 33:13.840 --> 33:14.620 Whatever, dude. 33:15.300 --> 33:16.280 Whatever, dude. 33:16.480 --> 33:16.920 Yeah, yeah. 33:17.780 --> 33:18.560 All right, late. 33:20.560 --> 33:22.760 I couldn't get... 33:22.760 --> 33:28.800 Hey, listen, this is Silence out of Massachusetts. 33:29.500 --> 33:31.000 I'm actually kind of new school. 33:31.220 --> 33:36.420 I actually wanted to start a radio show and, you know, just go over this stuff again. 33:36.520 --> 33:38.880 You know, I've got old recordings of things and stuff. 33:39.780 --> 33:42.340 I just, you know, want to learn more about different things. 33:42.340 --> 33:49.360 I want to talk to people like Joy Bubbles, this Joe from Massachusetts, this guy from Lynn, and etc. 33:49.460 --> 33:50.180 I want to learn more. 33:50.260 --> 33:53.920 I want to have some people on the show and, you know, do a few things once I get things set up. 33:54.340 --> 34:03.160 If anybody's interested in, you know, sharing the knowledge, give me a call at area code 248-724-0111 34:03.160 --> 34:04.920 and leave a message. 34:05.380 --> 34:06.180 That's my voicemail. 34:06.240 --> 34:10.040 I check it every four to six hours, even sooner than that, usually. 34:10.700 --> 34:11.280 Have a good day. 34:11.380 --> 34:11.480 Bye. 34:11.480 --> 34:17.520 Hi, this is Josh from Pittsburgh. 34:18.220 --> 34:23.940 I hope everything goes well with the transfer from N1 to, excuse me, N2 to T1. 34:24.480 --> 34:26.140 And thanks a lot for setting this up. 34:37.720 --> 34:39.100 Yeah, this is Joy Bubbles. 34:39.100 --> 34:52.460 If you're interested in hearing documentaries about the history of the bell system, there's an eight-part documentary called Hell's Bells that I put up on eight consecutive voicemail numbers. 34:52.460 --> 34:57.420 The access is 641-297-4900. 34:57.420 --> 35:04.380 And then the 7811 through 7818 are the eight parts. 35:04.460 --> 35:10.000 They're about a half hour each done from California, although I got them through Australia. 35:10.000 --> 35:21.500 But anyway, they're on there, 7811 through 7818 on the 641-297-4900. 35:21.500 --> 35:29.780 Testing, one, two, three, four, five, five, four, three, two, one. 35:29.780 --> 35:33.560 Hi, this is Dana calling from Griffin, Georgia. 35:34.560 --> 35:38.760 Just thought I'd come in and see how this thing works. 35:38.980 --> 35:43.140 And sad to hear the system is being changed. 35:43.140 --> 35:48.120 That hang-up sound, that bleep sound, has been around for a long time. 35:49.500 --> 35:51.260 And I hate to see it go away. 35:51.580 --> 35:53.420 So thought I'd leave a message on here, too. 35:53.640 --> 35:54.500 Everyone take care. 35:54.620 --> 35:56.960 This is Dana in Griffin, Georgia. 35:56.960 --> 36:10.260 Unless they've already changed it over, I don't know. 36:11.320 --> 36:12.500 I'm not hearing anything. 36:12.740 --> 36:13.020 Oh, really? 36:13.500 --> 36:13.740 Yeah. 36:14.680 --> 36:19.560 Before, you know, you'd hear clicks and you'd hear a little whistle, you know, a little tweet or whatever. 36:20.900 --> 36:21.940 No, I'll try it anyway. 36:22.060 --> 36:24.660 But if not, if you dial into the other thing, let me release that. 36:24.940 --> 36:25.160 Okay. 36:26.960 --> 36:56.940 Thank you. 36:56.960 --> 37:13.100 Hi, this is East Palladka, Florida, saying goodbye to the last of the inn. 37:13.100 --> 37:20.240 I started my career in 1963 in Florida, working on N-Carrier, North CX, and other older equipment. 37:20.960 --> 37:31.180 Through the years, we went from Lynch and Western Inn to Panhandle to Lenkert LN, eventually Lenkert 47A. 37:31.900 --> 37:35.180 Wrapped my career up at N-Carrier, working on VOIP. 37:35.180 --> 37:44.320 In the middle, I had the pleasure of ordering the first DMS-10, Fort White, Florida, which went into service in October of 1977. 37:44.320 --> 37:50.960 So we have the old N saying goodbye to the DMS-10 on the other end. 37:50.960 --> 37:53.560 Bob and Shane, look forward to seeing you one of these days. 37:53.680 --> 37:54.840 I'm going to get up there. 37:55.960 --> 37:56.400 Adios. 37:56.400 --> 37:58.260 Listen, I'm going to try to whistle, too. 37:58.780 --> 37:59.680 Oh, this is awful. 37:59.680 --> 38:01.560 Hello. 38:15.480 --> 38:18.700 This is silence here. 38:20.040 --> 38:22.480 Leaving a message to say goodbye to the SIN-2 carrier. 38:22.480 --> 38:28.300 Anybody can reach me at 248-724-0111. Bye. 38:34.300 --> 38:40.560 This is in Dalton, Georgia, on a 2500 look-alike set. 38:41.280 --> 38:47.920 Just saying that this is a very interesting setup here, and sorry to see the M2 carrier go. 38:47.920 --> 38:53.280 I guess there's one still left in Alaska, but this will be it, I guess, in the lower 48. 38:54.060 --> 38:54.780 Take care. 38:58.600 --> 39:01.480 This is from Huntsville, Alabama. 39:01.940 --> 39:04.740 I have no idea what this is about. 39:05.080 --> 39:07.520 Somebody gave me this number and the 07 number. 39:08.420 --> 39:12.540 I'm not a phone person. I don't know what it's about, but it sure is different. 39:12.540 --> 39:25.440 Yo, what's up? This is Lucky225, and I'm going to try and whistle this carrier off with this Captain Crunch whistle. 39:25.440 --> 39:32.180 Hi, this is from San Francisco, California. 39:32.860 --> 39:43.220 And since no one's time stamping, I'll tell you that it's 649 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time on June 3, 2006. 39:44.040 --> 39:45.160 Goodbye, N2. 39:45.160 --> 39:53.920 I'm not going to try to whistle this system off, but I will tell you a quick story about the late 70s when I was working for Compath, 39:53.980 --> 39:56.780 the largest interconnect company in California. 39:57.520 --> 40:02.400 One of my clients was Charles Schwab & Company back when they were headquartered in San Francisco. 40:03.280 --> 40:07.420 And down in our switch room, we had a speaker and a patch bay, 40:07.420 --> 40:12.840 and we would often listen to trunk traffic waiting for trunks to clear while we were doing testing. 40:12.840 --> 40:17.840 And one day, I'm sitting there talking to my counterpart in New York, 40:18.200 --> 40:22.920 working on a tie line that used 2600 single-frequency signaling, 40:24.000 --> 40:28.460 and calls going on the speaker, and we're not really paying much attention. 40:29.400 --> 40:32.520 My colleague and I were just talking about what we were going to do. 40:33.380 --> 40:36.060 And suddenly, the parties on that line hung up, 40:36.280 --> 40:40.200 and 2600 came blasting out of the speaker and cut off my phone call to New York 40:40.200 --> 40:43.060 by getting into the transmitter of the switch room phone. 40:43.500 --> 40:50.320 I later found out that one manufacturer, and I believe it was Ronewell, on their Confidencer line, 40:50.760 --> 40:54.820 actually made a 2600 filter that would go in switch room phones to prevent that. 40:55.080 --> 40:57.700 So I thought that was kind of a fun thing. 40:59.540 --> 41:02.820 And it was also kind of fun listening to all the other messages on this line 41:02.820 --> 41:05.860 and hearing a little bleep of SF at the end of each one. 41:05.860 --> 41:09.560 And that's something that I never even realized that I missed. 41:09.980 --> 41:12.660 But you could always tell when a call disconnected from hearing that. 41:12.940 --> 41:14.420 And you can't tell anymore. 41:14.620 --> 41:17.020 Sometimes you're talking to silence, and you think you're still connected. 41:17.820 --> 41:22.040 So I'm going to drop supervision from this end the conventional way by cradling the handset. 41:22.040 --> 41:25.040 And thank you for the opportunity to go on record. 41:28.840 --> 41:29.880 Hey, what's up? 41:29.920 --> 41:31.200 This is Lucky225. 41:31.940 --> 41:37.440 I'm calling from a Vonage line, which apparently is not using AT&T as its long-distance carrier 41:37.440 --> 41:43.040 because I did not actually dial 218-488-1306. 41:43.040 --> 41:51.420 I dialed 218-488-8463, which stated previously on this message board the time number is on hook. 41:51.540 --> 41:53.220 There's no supervision on that phone number. 41:54.040 --> 42:02.280 And I was able to whistle off the time, and I MF'd 288-1306. 42:02.280 --> 42:11.820 I'm sorry, 488-1306 to get to this, and I'm now recording this message on a blue-boxed call. 42:13.180 --> 42:18.400 What's kind of interesting is after you blue-box, there actually is answer supervision. 42:18.400 --> 42:32.480 So had I placed this call from a landline or something, it would actually show that I dialed 218-488-8463 on the phone bill 42:32.480 --> 42:35.500 when I'm actually talking on this phone number. 42:35.500 --> 42:49.100 I actually got a bill from MCI showing me dialing 218-488-1337 when I had whistled off the we're sorry message 42:49.100 --> 42:54.160 and called the time number back when it supervised, or maybe I called 8464, I'm not sure. 42:55.340 --> 43:00.900 Anyways, I'm going to use my Captain Crunch whistle to whistle this off, and yeah, ladies. 43:00.900 --> 43:12.360 Well, this is Joy Bubbles at 641-297-4900, and extension 8555 is my personal box on the voicemail. 43:12.980 --> 43:21.620 Anyway, to Keith, since you ordered the Fort White, I guess I might as well contribute my little piece of history 43:21.620 --> 43:23.740 on that Fort White DMS 10. 43:24.720 --> 43:29.000 I'm a blind person and love to listen to things, 43:29.000 --> 43:33.800 and I tended to like to be on the first night that things cut over, you know, 43:33.860 --> 43:42.080 like I was on the first TSPS in Morristown, New Jersey, dialing in from Florida to listen to that in 1969, 43:42.540 --> 43:49.000 and the first 1A in Chicago in 76, well, the first 4E, 4ESS super switcher, 43:49.000 --> 43:56.900 I dialed into that in early, you know, early 76 before it was cut over, 43:57.160 --> 44:04.740 a test board plugged me into the trunk so I could hear it and stuff before it even cut to Chicago 7, 44:04.740 --> 44:09.440 and those kind of things. 44:09.600 --> 44:13.760 Let's see, there was something else I was going to mention before Fort White, but, oh, yeah, 44:13.880 --> 44:21.820 cellular in Chicago, the field trial on the 820 exchange, it was a non-commercial trial, 44:21.820 --> 44:26.960 and I noticed that one of the trunks in there was going a steady off-hook, and I told them, 44:27.180 --> 44:30.500 and they said, you know, they had been, we'd been having billing problems, 44:30.720 --> 44:35.080 and we thought the cellular somehow system was somehow erroneously billing, 44:35.200 --> 44:41.880 and I said, no, it's just a 1A266 trunk with something coming from the 4A to the ESS 44:41.880 --> 44:46.560 that, you know, needs to have that circuit pack changed that gets off-hook immediately 44:46.560 --> 44:48.940 and will never go on-hook no matter what you do. 44:48.940 --> 44:53.320 Well, anyway, about Fort White, being that that was the first DMS 10, 44:53.780 --> 44:58.940 I was up on it that night, and one of the things I noticed is that it flashed on Busy, 44:59.900 --> 45:05.520 and so I called up, and, oh, and another thing I noticed is on the AIS, 45:06.360 --> 45:11.460 which I think Bell went to Bell's AIS, as I remember, but anyway, that was a long time ago, 45:11.940 --> 45:16.940 but anyway, when the AIS goes on-hook, and then it waits, you know, 45:16.940 --> 45:20.680 if you wait, an operator will come on to help you, but it goes on-hook in between, 45:20.900 --> 45:23.240 and the DMS 10 would release it. 45:23.480 --> 45:27.540 So anyway, I called up, and darn if they didn't fix them for me right away, 45:27.620 --> 45:31.120 they said to Busy, they just said from flash yes to flash no, 45:31.820 --> 45:39.900 and then on the AIS, they made it joint control instead of called party control on the DMS 10. 45:39.900 --> 45:44.220 And so that was a night that I remembered, and luckily I did, 45:44.340 --> 45:48.920 because the first DMS 10 at the Bell's system from what's now North Hill 45:48.920 --> 45:53.760 was the 362 Exchange in Oakdale, Pennsylvania, as I remember, 45:54.440 --> 45:58.680 and so I was up that night, as I usually am for cuts, still am, 45:58.680 --> 46:06.100 and I called in, and they had the same problems, and I reported, and I said, 46:06.200 --> 46:09.340 now, down in Fort White, I reported, and this is what they did. 46:09.460 --> 46:11.460 So the foreman said, who is he? 46:11.500 --> 46:12.260 Well, he's a customer. 46:12.360 --> 46:13.280 Well, don't tell him anything. 46:13.520 --> 46:15.420 Well, he's not asking us to tell him anything. 46:15.500 --> 46:18.320 He's telling us, and he told me what to fix, 46:18.380 --> 46:21.760 so they interviewed me in a little cutover magazine or something. 46:21.760 --> 46:26.020 The PR people talked to me, because I was calling up about 3 in the morning 46:26.020 --> 46:29.960 the first night that DMS 10 set, so through Fort White, 46:30.340 --> 46:35.580 I learned how to do Oakdale, you know, 46:35.660 --> 46:38.920 since they had the same problems that I found, 46:39.800 --> 46:42.520 because at that time, if a busy flashed, 46:42.520 --> 46:47.180 after about the fourth flash, it did an answer on the old CCIS system, 46:47.180 --> 46:51.080 and it would charge, or even on three-way, on one ESS, 46:51.200 --> 46:54.140 that had immediate charge, so those chargeable busies 46:54.140 --> 46:56.580 could make a one-minute charge. 46:57.400 --> 47:03.040 So, yeah, there's my memory of the old DMS 10. 47:06.800 --> 47:09.600 And this is Joy Bubbles with one more quicker story. 47:10.180 --> 47:14.320 It'll be five years, this June 30th, since our DMS cut. 47:14.320 --> 47:19.520 We were the last one in the whole 14-state quest. 47:19.520 --> 47:22.480 Well, they have a plaque saying that, 47:22.560 --> 47:25.760 but actually, it turned out, through an unforeseen circumstance, 47:26.360 --> 47:27.940 we weren't really the last one, 47:28.540 --> 47:33.820 because in Lewiston and Clarkstown, I think it is, 47:33.900 --> 47:36.680 Washington, bordering places, 47:36.680 --> 47:41.680 they had a 1A that was supposed to be sold to citizens in a big deal, 47:41.680 --> 47:48.420 and they reviewed the contract, and ended up, it didn't sell. 47:48.640 --> 47:53.160 So they actually had that 1A that was supposed to be sold after the one-year cut. 47:53.220 --> 47:55.820 So it wasn't really the last, but we can still call it the last, 47:55.880 --> 47:56.740 because it's pretty close. 47:57.180 --> 48:00.020 Anyway, when it cut, I was up for five days, 48:00.020 --> 48:02.800 18 hours a day, well, the first day, 24 hours, 48:03.320 --> 48:05.900 and I did over 10,000 tests in the switch, 48:06.120 --> 48:08.420 and called the quest and reported. 48:08.420 --> 48:09.940 It was just a very few troubles. 48:10.080 --> 48:11.420 It was a very, very good cut, 48:11.660 --> 48:16.480 and since then, I've had the best telephone service I've ever had, 48:16.620 --> 48:20.380 and I made up a slogan that night of the DMS thing, 48:20.440 --> 48:21.560 I'm impressed with Quest. 48:22.000 --> 48:25.500 So I don't know what I'm going to do for its anniversary on June 30th. 48:25.500 --> 48:28.000 I'm sure I'll be up doing something, 48:28.200 --> 48:32.380 but it's five years of excellent service, 48:32.380 --> 48:40.260 so it was worth spending the money for Quest to get over to a DMS 100 from the 1A. 48:40.380 --> 48:43.240 I've had a whole lot less trouble since they did that, 48:43.420 --> 48:45.620 and much more delightful service. 48:46.100 --> 48:47.040 I'm impressed with Quest. 48:47.040 --> 48:54.480 It's a phone world after all. 48:55.080 --> 48:58.420 It's a phone world after all. 48:59.000 --> 49:02.100 It's a phone world after all. 49:02.220 --> 49:05.040 It's a phone, phone world. 49:05.040 --> 49:23.180 It's a world of numbers, a world of phones 49:23.180 --> 49:27.040 It's a place we play when we're all alone 49:27.040 --> 49:31.060 Every phone company drives all the days of our lives 49:31.060 --> 49:34.740 It's a phone world after all 49:34.740 --> 49:38.840 You can always get one more Fillmore box 49:38.840 --> 49:42.740 If you want to stand on your own soapbox 49:42.740 --> 49:46.680 If you have lots to say and there's no other way 49:46.680 --> 49:50.300 It's a phone world after all 49:50.300 --> 49:54.880 It's a phone world after all 49:54.880 --> 49:58.760 It's a phone world after all 49:58.760 --> 50:02.400 It's a phone world after all 50:02.400 --> 50:06.000 It's a phone, phone world 50:06.000 --> 50:10.200 Oh, we had graffiti and e-voice too 50:10.200 --> 50:14.160 When they went away, oh, we felt so blue 50:14.160 --> 50:18.160 But for us who are blind, there's more numbers to find 50:18.160 --> 50:22.260 It's a phone world after all 50:22.260 --> 50:26.360 Oh, we love those numbers and area codes 50:26.360 --> 50:30.260 And we quickly repeat what we've just been told 50:30.260 --> 50:34.260 Until long distance ends, we don't need real friends 50:34.260 --> 50:36.260 It's a phone world after all 50:36.260 --> 50:41.260 It's a phone world after all 50:41.260 --> 50:45.260 It's a phone world after all 50:45.260 --> 50:48.260 It's a phone world after all 50:48.260 --> 50:52.260 It's a phone, phone world 50:52.260 --> 50:59.820 This is Tim Hendel in Huntsville, Alabama 50:59.820 --> 51:02.200 And we're going to try this with a piano 51:02.200 --> 51:05.220 Here comes seventh octave E 51:05.220 --> 51:24.220 No 51:24.220 --> 51:31.820 And we're going to try this with a piano 51:31.820 --> 51:33.060 Chloe 51:54.220 --> 51:58.940 Yo, what up, it's silencer. I'm going to try to whistle off here electronically. 52:00.940 --> 52:06.100 Again, I'm going to experiment and try to whistle off electronically. 52:09.720 --> 52:10.460 Here we go. 52:20.460 --> 52:22.520 I'm really going to miss this kind of stuff. 52:22.520 --> 52:24.180 Oh, well. 52:29.640 --> 52:32.160 All good things must come to an end. 52:34.540 --> 52:38.660 Hello, this is Telco Bob from North Carolina saying goodbye. 52:45.360 --> 52:48.360 Hi, this is El Jefe of the Payphone Directory. 52:48.360 --> 52:56.000 And I'm just calling to wish to say goodbye to this wonderful old phone system that you have there in Minnesota. 52:56.000 --> 53:02.620 Um, I'm going to miss it. 53:03.960 --> 53:07.420 And I'm going to whistle the call off now. 53:08.000 --> 53:08.360 Bye-bye. 53:08.360 --> 53:13.220 Uh, this is El Jefe again. 53:13.220 --> 53:17.780 Um, I am pleasantly surprised that there is still a system like this out there. 53:18.000 --> 53:26.520 Because, um, about four years ago, I stumbled upon a phone exchange in Idaho that still used 2,600 trunks. 53:26.520 --> 53:31.040 But it totally caught me by surprise. 53:31.400 --> 53:33.780 So I didn't get the chance to make a recording of it. 53:33.780 --> 53:38.320 Because when I went back this year, eh, they'd upgraded it to T1. 53:38.640 --> 53:41.780 So, once again, I'm... 53:41.780 --> 53:44.700 Oh, well. 53:44.700 --> 53:51.440 I'm just wishing goodbye to the wonderful phone systems of the past. 53:51.560 --> 53:52.860 And I'm going to hang up normally this time. 53:52.960 --> 53:53.180 Goodbye. 53:53.180 --> 54:00.540 Um, this is New Bell here from, uh, in the 320. 54:01.240 --> 54:04.340 Uh, just a little way south of you guys there up in the 218. 54:05.160 --> 54:10.060 I found out about this, uh, old N2 system going to be cut over. 54:10.220 --> 54:14.100 Uh, heard about it, uh, from, uh, Lucky 225. 54:14.100 --> 54:20.100 And, uh, up on the, uh, NSA TNT radio show there. 54:20.380 --> 54:22.100 And was surprised to hear about it. 54:22.340 --> 54:25.200 And, uh, felt kind of bad that I hadn't heard about it as of yet. 54:25.320 --> 54:26.120 And it's going away. 54:26.200 --> 54:27.800 And then I find out about it at this point. 54:27.960 --> 54:31.420 But, uh, yeah, they're really, really fascinating stuff. 54:31.540 --> 54:32.920 And a sad day to hear it go. 54:33.700 --> 54:36.620 Um, not really all that old school. 54:36.740 --> 54:41.500 Never actually had the chance to play with anything that uses the old, uh, in-band signaling. 54:41.500 --> 54:46.980 So I'm going to see if I can whistle this off electronically for the first and probably the last time here. 54:47.980 --> 54:53.760 Um, if anybody wishes to leave me a message, 206-350-2288. 54:54.680 --> 55:02.300 Um, on the web there, uh, plamn.afraid.org is, uh, PLA Minnesota, my site there. 55:02.920 --> 55:05.340 Uh, and with that, uh, best of luck. 55:05.420 --> 55:08.240 And may the old, uh, N2 rest in peace. 55:08.240 --> 55:12.900 Hey, this is Austin from Charlottesville, Virginia. 55:13.220 --> 55:15.340 And, uh, just paying my respects. 55:15.620 --> 55:18.060 Anyway, um, I'm going to whistle this off. 55:18.180 --> 55:24.180 But first off, I'd like to give shouts out to War, who, uh, couldn't be here because of his extraordinary long-distance bill. 55:24.280 --> 55:26.080 But he wishes his best. 55:26.360 --> 55:27.700 Anyway, let's get this recorded. 55:27.700 --> 55:33.940 Um, my name's Fugazi, and I want to thank, uh, Joy Bubbles for letting me know about this. 55:34.060 --> 55:38.200 I've been, I'm kind of young, and, uh, this stuff's kind of old. 55:38.360 --> 55:40.660 And, uh, I'll show you another little trick I learned from him. 55:42.600 --> 55:44.400 8-6-3, Anarchy Rules. 55:44.400 --> 55:50.320 Hello? 55:50.320 --> 55:50.400 Hello? 55:50.960 --> 56:02.600 This is F-Sutel from Tampa, Florida. 56:02.880 --> 56:04.720 I'm saying goodbye to the MF systems. 56:04.720 --> 56:06.520 Hello? 56:22.040 --> 56:22.420 Hey. 56:27.020 --> 56:27.540 Odd. 56:31.620 --> 56:32.380 Hey, guys. 56:32.520 --> 56:33.040 This is Kenny. 56:33.240 --> 56:33.960 I'm calling Pennsylvania. 56:34.720 --> 56:41.720 Um, uh, I guess this is going away real soon here. 56:41.800 --> 56:42.760 I don't know how soon. 56:45.300 --> 56:49.680 But, uh, it's about 8-11, June 7th. 56:50.840 --> 57:01.140 Uh, I just wanted to say that every Saturday night on Mark Bernet's website, which is wideweb.com slash phone trips, 57:01.140 --> 57:02.100 W-I-D-E-W-E-B.com slash phone trips, 57:02.100 --> 57:04.620 every Saturday night at 8 p.m. Eastern Time. 57:05.420 --> 57:08.600 If you go to that site, there's a link in the top right corner that says, 57:08.680 --> 57:10.920 click here for online chat with other freaks. 57:10.920 --> 57:17.660 Uh, a bunch of my buddies, uh, a bunch of my buddies and I have been going on there, and, uh, it'd be nice to see some new people in there. 57:17.660 --> 57:31.300 Uh, that website, again, is wideweb.com slash phone trips, W-I-D-E-W-E-B.com slash phone trips, P-H-O-N-E-T-R-I-P-S. 57:31.300 --> 57:37.900 Uh, we'd be happy to see some new people on there, so, I guess that's it. 57:38.080 --> 57:42.360 I haven't been around long enough to experience some of the stuff that you guys know. 57:44.180 --> 57:46.780 Uh, I'm pretty young compared to all of you guys. 57:47.880 --> 57:50.320 I'm actually graduating from high school on Friday. 57:51.100 --> 57:52.800 I just wanted to be a part of history here. 57:53.940 --> 57:55.280 So take care, everybody. 57:55.640 --> 57:56.160 Good luck. 57:56.160 --> 58:01.500 Yo, what's up? 58:01.580 --> 58:03.600 It's Icon of freaksandgeeks.com. 58:04.360 --> 58:07.580 Just, uh, wanted to say goodbye to the old switch here. 58:08.380 --> 58:10.940 And, uh, whatnot. 58:11.780 --> 58:18.300 And, uh, hopefully we can, uh, get some more cool stuff going on here in the near future. 58:18.560 --> 58:22.620 Unfortunately, it will not be anything like this of ancient switching. 58:26.160 --> 58:28.320 And my VoIP is going crazy. 58:28.840 --> 58:30.340 So, there we go. 58:30.760 --> 58:31.080 Peace. 58:31.080 --> 58:37.380 Uh, I'd be fulking your turn. 58:37.820 --> 58:38.540 I don't know. 58:38.980 --> 58:42.120 This is just spammed out on Wikipedia, the number of this thing. 58:42.700 --> 58:43.580 It's unfortunate it was. 58:43.640 --> 58:44.520 I wouldn't have found about it. 58:44.640 --> 58:48.840 It seems the whole thing is dying off, hacking these systems. 58:49.920 --> 58:54.460 If this person starts to get into it, it's kind of unfortunate, really. 58:54.660 --> 58:55.140 I don't know. 58:55.140 --> 59:01.800 Uh, I had to remove the spam Wikipedia username of the, uh, fulking your turn. 59:02.400 --> 59:03.100 Eh, meh. 59:03.960 --> 59:06.580 Uh, damn pity this thing dies. 59:07.120 --> 59:09.760 Just one more thing you can't do anymore. 59:10.760 --> 59:10.900 Uh. 59:10.900 --> 59:21.600 Um, I'm fulking your turn. 59:21.720 --> 59:24.100 I don't know if my last one went through or not. 59:24.720 --> 59:25.920 Eh, it didn't seem it did. 59:26.560 --> 59:29.840 Um, eh, found this on the Wikipedia spam of it. 59:29.840 --> 59:36.300 And, you know, it's a pity it all just seems to go away before a person can actually get into it. 59:37.440 --> 59:38.480 Uh, I don't know. 59:38.660 --> 59:40.840 I had to take the spam out, of course, but... 59:42.120 --> 59:53.020 Hey, this is Ponyboy from Velcro Radio, and, uh, I'm going to miss the Wallina. 59:53.280 --> 59:54.020 I really am. 59:54.020 --> 01:00:06.340 Okay, I'm only leaving this because a friend wanted me to, so, um... 01:00:06.340 --> 01:00:15.900 Hi there, this is Tim from Edmonton, Alberta, Kira. 01:00:16.340 --> 01:00:23.340 Just wanted to say hello and pay my last respects to the N2 and Wallina, Minnesota. 01:00:24.020 --> 01:00:26.760 Um, hello to Joy Bubbles. 01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:29.800 I noticed that I heard you on here earlier. 01:00:30.680 --> 01:00:31.740 I just wanted to say hi. 01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:34.520 I don't know if you've ever talked to me, but I've called you a couple times. 01:00:34.520 --> 01:00:40.320 Uh, most recently about, uh, Mark Kucha and, uh, a couple times about 4ASS, 01:00:40.540 --> 01:00:41.580 and we talked about some other things. 01:00:41.640 --> 01:00:42.860 Anyways, I just wanted to say hello. 01:00:43.200 --> 01:00:45.360 And, uh, hello to Ben from Boston. 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:46.980 And hello to Strom. 01:00:47.060 --> 01:00:48.280 I heard you on here as well. 01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:54.040 Anyways, uh, I guess I'll stop rambling, and I'll talk to y'all later. 01:00:54.220 --> 01:00:56.040 It's too bad to see this system go. 01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:58.000 That's about it for me. 01:00:58.060 --> 01:00:58.300 Goodbye. 01:00:58.300 --> 01:01:08.180 Hi there, this is Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, calling back in again. 01:01:10.660 --> 01:01:16.620 I guess, uh, I just wanted to, uh, I guess I just can't, I just can't stop calling this thing. 01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:18.780 It's, uh, quite interesting. 01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:21.640 It's, uh, a lot of memories on this particular switch. 01:01:21.640 --> 01:01:26.660 I mean, me, I'm not as old as, uh, a lot of the people that are leaving messages here, 01:01:26.740 --> 01:01:30.800 and I don't have any memories of the old style, per se. 01:01:31.740 --> 01:01:38.760 And, uh, systems like this are just about all that my generation has to, uh, to reminisce 01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:44.240 and to experience what it was like to use the phone system, um, back in the day. 01:01:44.240 --> 01:01:52.660 This system here and, uh, the other systems like the MF trunks on Staten Island, I believe 01:01:52.660 --> 01:01:59.340 it was in New York, are really the only way that we can, uh, that people from my generation 01:01:59.340 --> 01:02:05.340 are able to interact with the, uh, you know, manually routing calls, I guess you could call 01:02:05.340 --> 01:02:05.460 it. 01:02:05.460 --> 01:02:12.880 Um, my father, on the other hand, has quite a few experiences and is able to reminisce 01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:20.880 about using and working on the, uh, the telephone systems in the mid-80s and, uh, 82 to 85 around 01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:24.320 there when it was, uh, still Alberta government telephones around here. 01:02:25.260 --> 01:02:31.340 It's got, uh, quite a few memories of the, uh, typewriter testing facilities in downtown 01:02:31.340 --> 01:02:36.240 Edmonton, uh, the, uh, step-in crossbar switches that we were using at the time. 01:02:37.420 --> 01:02:43.540 And, uh, he remembers, uh, using MF signaling and playing with the tones to control the phone 01:02:43.540 --> 01:02:44.940 systems and all that wonderful stuff. 01:02:46.220 --> 01:02:52.280 Whereas, uh, me and people that are around my age, uh, this is what we have. 01:02:52.380 --> 01:02:57.220 This is what we have to play with is, uh, Lawina and other such systems. 01:02:57.220 --> 01:03:07.280 I first heard about, uh, the, uh, 218488 exchange and back on, uh, what was called the, uh, SoCal 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:13.100 bridge, it was run by Scott back about, I think it was 2001 or 2002. 01:03:14.660 --> 01:03:18.620 Anyways, uh, that was, that was my first introduction to the switch. 01:03:18.780 --> 01:03:22.020 I, he basically said, hey, you know, you might find this interesting, play around a bit. 01:03:22.060 --> 01:03:24.480 And I did, and, well, I guess now we're here. 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:32.800 Anyways, it's kind of sad to, uh, see this system disappear to T carrier, but, uh, I just 01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:37.300 want to thank Shane for, uh, dropping in on my call there. 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.180 And that was nice to talk to you. 01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:43.680 I, I hope that everything goes well with your switch from N carrier to T carrier. 01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:48.340 And, uh, you can be assured that I'll be playing around with the system quite a bit for the next 01:03:48.340 --> 01:03:51.740 little while until the, uh, until the change does occur. 01:03:52.940 --> 01:03:54.640 And, uh, I guess that's about it. 01:03:54.900 --> 01:03:56.120 I'll stop rambling now. 01:03:56.120 --> 01:04:02.880 What a great system. 01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:05.240 Fare thee well. 01:04:09.240 --> 01:04:16.340 Wow, um, I can really hear the, uh, audio on this, uh, your trunk. 01:04:16.340 --> 01:04:20.200 It's really horrible right now for some reason. 01:04:20.700 --> 01:04:23.480 Anyways, this is Lucky225 calling back in. 01:04:24.380 --> 01:04:26.740 I guess supposedly this is going to get cut over. 01:04:26.900 --> 01:04:30.340 This N2 carrier is going to get cut over sometime around June 12th. 01:04:31.020 --> 01:04:38.080 Um, just wanted to contribute a couple numbers on this switch, uh, on this 218488 exchange. 01:04:38.080 --> 01:04:42.040 1399 will actually get you a dial tone. 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:46.660 I saw a couple posts on the bin rev forums over there at binrev.com slash forums. 01:04:47.340 --> 01:04:50.100 People had found the number and they were wondering what the dial tone is. 01:04:50.160 --> 01:04:53.620 It's actually, that's a step-by-step switch. 01:04:54.520 --> 01:04:57.940 Um, you can get other extensions on that switch there. 01:04:58.580 --> 01:05:02.420 Um, there's a couple other phone numbers on here. 01:05:02.420 --> 01:05:08.060 Uh, 9100 through 9103 are some test numbers mainly. 01:05:08.660 --> 01:05:14.900 Type 102 test and, uh, there was a, on 9103 it's an answer supervision test. 01:05:15.560 --> 01:05:17.320 Sends a couple 2600 hertz winks. 01:05:17.660 --> 01:05:18.500 It's kind of interesting. 01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:24.940 Um, I was wondering if anyone else had any test numbers on this switch or, uh, 01:05:25.940 --> 01:05:30.720 was particularly, particularly interested if there's a loop set up on the switch 01:05:31.100 --> 01:05:33.860 or a, uh, a conference bridge. 01:05:33.860 --> 01:05:40.280 That would be, uh, it would be kind of nice if there was a conference set up on here that 01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:43.520 we could all talk on before the N2 goes away. 01:05:43.680 --> 01:05:49.440 It would be nice to have a conference on the switch, uh, where we'd all be talking over 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:50.280 the N2 carrier. 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:54.460 Maybe someone will set one up, I don't know, uh, Shane or Bob. 01:05:54.540 --> 01:05:58.480 Maybe one of them could, uh, put a conference up before this goes away. 01:05:59.180 --> 01:06:04.660 That'd be, uh, I'd really appreciate that if we had a chance to talk on the, on a conference 01:06:04.660 --> 01:06:05.360 on the switch. 01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:10.940 But anyways, uh, if you guys have any other phone numbers on the switch, anything interesting, 01:06:11.860 --> 01:06:19.340 uh, please let me know, lucky225 on aim, or lucky225 at 2600.com, or, uh, just leave 01:06:19.340 --> 01:06:20.440 a message here on the board. 01:06:21.500 --> 01:06:27.180 Really sad to see this old analog inbound trunk go away, but oh well. 01:06:27.180 --> 01:06:43.200 Yo, yo, yo, what up, silence here. 01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:46.780 Anyways, uh, saying goodbye to the N2 carrier. 01:06:48.140 --> 01:06:52.340 Uh, man, I wish I could whistle off whatever stuff he knows right now, I don't feel like 01:06:52.340 --> 01:06:52.500 it. 01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:55.440 Pitiful. 01:06:57.180 --> 01:07:03.440 Anyways, you can reach me at 248-724-0111. 01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:04.540 Shh, peace. 01:07:06.220 --> 01:07:12.820 Hello, this is calling from my regular, uh, POTS phone line here in Louisville, Kentucky, 01:07:13.240 --> 01:07:19.600 served by Bell South, and I'm just calling to see what it sounds like on this system that, 01:07:19.680 --> 01:07:25.880 uh, has lots of background noise on it, and I do not know why. 01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:28.040 All of a sudden it just got some background noise. 01:07:28.140 --> 01:07:31.000 I'll probably have to ask Shane about that, or ask the list, or something. 01:07:31.660 --> 01:07:34.620 Uh, wanted to mention a couple of things. 01:07:34.620 --> 01:07:42.700 First of all, I have created some recordings, some actual, from the phone recordings, but 01:07:42.700 --> 01:07:50.800 they are from a VoIP provider, so they're digital in quality, of the system calling the time and 01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:58.960 temperature lines when it was working properly, i.e. no background noise, and I've created a lot, 01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:05.540 several recordings, the two time and temperature lines, which, by the way, are 8463, does not 01:08:05.540 --> 01:08:09.960 supervise, and 8464 does supervise. 01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:20.200 The supervision test on 9103, I believe it is, the loop around, I called the milliwatt on 9109, 01:08:20.200 --> 01:08:26.980 and I called 2600 to get the intercept recording, which, if you have not heard Wallina's intercept 01:08:26.980 --> 01:08:32.640 recording, you absolutely have to hear it. It is an intercept recording to end all intercept 01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:41.080 recordings. So, like, uh, 218-488-2600 is currently an invalid number, so call that, and if you haven't 01:08:41.080 --> 01:08:47.820 heard it, you've got to hear it. Anyway, I record all those this morning while the system was in its 01:08:47.820 --> 01:08:57.300 current mode of putting lots of noise on phone calls, especially on the on-hook or unsupervised 01:08:57.300 --> 01:09:04.280 portion of the call. So, if anybody wants those, let me know. I will probably go ahead and put them 01:09:04.280 --> 01:09:10.240 up on my website, and once that happens, I will either call back here or get on the collector's net 01:09:10.240 --> 01:09:16.300 list and give people the URL to where they all are. I've got to do some editing first. 01:09:16.300 --> 01:09:23.080 Also, I wanted to tell whoever it was that was wanting a conference bridge, yes, that would be a good 01:09:23.080 --> 01:09:31.820 idea, and conveniently enough, the number 488-2663 for CONF is not in use right now. That can get you 01:09:31.820 --> 01:09:38.480 to an intercept, and since they have an asterisk system there, uh, it shouldn't be any big deal to 01:09:38.480 --> 01:09:43.600 actually put in a conference bridge. Now, whether they will or not, I don't know, but that would be kind 01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:48.540 of cool for people to be able to talk to each other over this old equipment before it dies, 01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:57.360 before it gets cut over, which, from what I've heard, is very imminent, you know, that this stuff 01:09:57.360 --> 01:10:04.320 isn't going to be around for much longer. Also, somebody was talking about the, uh, chat with other 01:10:04.320 --> 01:10:10.780 phone freaks on the wideweb.com slash phone trips site. Unfortunately, I cannot use that. 01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:16.960 You all probably don't know this, but I'm a blind person, and I use a screen reader to help me to 01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:28.360 read the screen to me, and the chat environment, uh, excuse me for that, excuse me again, is, I guess, 01:10:28.360 --> 01:10:34.180 java-based or something like that, so I cannot use that. My screen reader just won't do that for me. 01:10:35.100 --> 01:10:41.540 I'd love to. I'd love to be able to chat with other, oh, you know, phone freaks from, you know, 01:10:41.620 --> 01:10:48.280 today and yesterday, but I can't do it. I don't know if there are any MUDs or IRC channels where 01:10:48.280 --> 01:10:54.760 people like that hang out or any mailing lists. I used to be a member of the central office Yahoo group, 01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:58.860 but I'm not anymore because I had to change email addresses and never did get around to signing 01:10:58.860 --> 01:11:03.980 back up. Anyway, I think that's all I've got to say for now, so I'm going to go ahead and hang up 01:11:03.980 --> 01:11:10.880 the conventional way, and we'll be talking to you guys later. Goodbye for now. By the way, this is, 01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:21.220 I'm going to go ahead and timestamp. Today is June, Friday, June 9, 2006. It is 531 a.m. 01:11:21.220 --> 01:11:24.500 Eastern Daylight Time. Okay, goodbye. 01:11:29.040 --> 01:11:33.600 If it was pot, you couldn't make a long-distance call out of Kentucky, so. 01:11:39.580 --> 01:11:44.520 Well, it was great while it lasted. Good to hear the old N2 up again. You're going to be missed. 01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:56.340 Hello, this is Tessette from Ohio, calling from a Western Electric 500 DM. I'm going to 01:11:56.340 --> 01:11:58.340 whistle this thing off fairly well. 01:11:58.340 --> 01:12:18.340 test that again. I'm going to try that one more time. Didn't think it worked. Hold on. 01:12:18.340 --> 01:12:33.580 Hi, me name is McGregor, and it's a shame to hear the loss of the analog trunks. It's a shame. 01:12:33.580 --> 01:12:40.580 Hi, this is number six, calling from the UK. I'm very pleased to be here, but unfortunately, 01:12:43.080 --> 01:12:46.080 and two carriers go in, so see you on the other side. Bye-bye. 01:12:46.080 --> 01:13:06.580 And, and we're about to, uh, try to whistle off this here phone, so, uh, I'm going to let 01:13:06.580 --> 01:13:16.580 talk a little while and take it first. Why me? Oh, I could try. Let's see. Still there? Uh-huh. 01:13:16.580 --> 01:13:25.580 Try again. Maybe not. Your turn, bony boy. 01:13:25.580 --> 01:13:44.580 Well, hello again. This is Tessette from the Telephone World, www.themine.com slash p-h-w-o-r-l-d. 01:13:44.580 --> 01:13:50.580 I was just calling to see, uh, what the status of the N2 carrier was. Uh, time stamp is, uh, 01:13:50.580 --> 01:13:56.580 June the 10th, uh, at, uh, 2 p.m. Eastern, uh, and it looks like it's still up. It had 01:13:56.580 --> 01:14:01.580 problems last night, it appeared. Either the trunks were full or there was something wrong 01:14:01.580 --> 01:14:05.580 because on, uh, on-hook condition, as others like Jason Smith had mentioned, is that it 01:14:05.580 --> 01:14:11.580 is extremely noisy. I'm assuming that's the, uh, 2600 coming back towards us, but highly 01:14:11.580 --> 01:14:17.580 muted. But once it goes on-hook, uh, it sounds, uh, fairly normal and fairly, uh, quiet. 01:14:17.580 --> 01:14:21.580 All right, just checking to see what the status was. Uh, Shane said that they had problems 01:14:21.580 --> 01:14:26.580 with the T1 carrier up, uh, but they'll try again this time of the week. So, check this 01:14:26.580 --> 01:14:32.580 out, uh, again, just to see what's going on with it. Uh, I listened to, uh, the, uh, messages 01:14:32.580 --> 01:14:37.580 on 1307 and it's over an hour and 15 minutes now. That's just amazing how many people have 01:14:37.580 --> 01:14:44.580 called here. Captain Crunch, Mark Bernay, uh, Joy Bubbles, people like that. Uh, I wonder if 01:14:44.580 --> 01:14:48.580 Evan Dorvald knows about this. I'll see if I can, uh, get in touch with him and let him 01:14:48.580 --> 01:14:53.580 know. But, uh, just definitely, uh, just one of the, uh, fun things with N2 carrier. 01:14:53.580 --> 01:14:59.580 Oh, as others have mentioned, as far as, uh, blue boxing this is concerned, uh, it is 01:14:59.580 --> 01:15:04.580 seven digits. You don't need KP. You don't need to start. Just, uh, straight seven digits. 01:15:04.580 --> 01:15:09.580 Uh, very odd that way. I'm just, I'm not surprised that way, but it, uh, I tested myself and it 01:15:09.580 --> 01:15:15.580 does work. So, uh, happy blue boxing for the last day or two. Have fun. Bye. 01:15:19.580 --> 01:15:21.580 Hi, this is 01:15:21.580 --> 01:15:25.580 in Millington, Michigan. What I've done for this call is to call 01:15:25.580 --> 01:15:31.580 through an ON2 carrier system, which I have set up in my, from one end of my basement to the other. 01:15:31.580 --> 01:15:39.580 I'm talking through an XY switch through a channel of the ON2 carrier, and then through, uh, Western 01:15:39.580 --> 01:15:44.580 Electric, Northern Electric step-by-step switch, then over the public switch telephone network, then through 01:15:44.580 --> 01:15:50.580 the N2 carrier on your end. And, uh, thought it'd be kind of interesting to have a call that was passing 01:15:50.580 --> 01:16:00.580 through both an ON2 system, uh, utilizing its out-of-band 3700 cycle signaling, and then to the N2 system 01:16:00.580 --> 01:16:10.580 with its 2600 Hertz SF signaling. And thought that would be kind of an interesting thing, and just wanted to make that call. 01:16:10.580 --> 01:16:12.580 Thank you. Goodbye. 01:16:12.580 --> 01:16:18.580 Hey, what's up? It's Silence here. Uh, check out this new BVS. It's a new bulletin board service. 01:16:18.580 --> 01:16:33.580 That was just set up. It's, uh, area code 425-606-3124, or 360-226-6765, or 253-397-1224. 01:16:33.580 --> 01:16:38.580 They all go into the same system. Um, anybody can get on there at any time. 01:16:38.580 --> 01:16:47.580 Um, it has a, uh, bulletin board system. It has a voicemail system. And, uh, all fellow Freakers are welcome there. 01:16:47.580 --> 01:16:48.580 Um, please. 01:16:48.580 --> 01:16:49.580 Peace. 01:16:49.580 --> 01:16:51.580 Peace. 01:16:51.580 --> 01:17:17.940 Hello from Andrew in Newfoundland, Canada. 01:17:17.940 --> 01:17:34.940 It's nice to actually hear some of the sounds of an old, in band with an old Trump, so it'd be as the end of everything comes, just like the 718th Amendment. 01:17:34.940 --> 01:17:35.940 All right, bye. 01:17:35.940 --> 01:17:40.940 Hey, what's up, everyone? 01:17:40.940 --> 01:17:42.940 This is Royal from Massachusetts. 01:17:42.940 --> 01:17:54.940 Didn't hear about this dying, nor about this Bolton Board system to record on until a little close to the last minute, but here I am to leave the message. 01:17:54.940 --> 01:17:57.940 It's definitely a sad thing to hear about this. 01:17:57.940 --> 01:17:59.940 I am from Massachusetts. 01:17:59.940 --> 01:18:07.940 I think probably there were quite a few people from Massachusetts as well, other than a few select people that I already know. 01:18:07.940 --> 01:18:12.940 But yeah, it's definitely sad to see this go. 01:18:12.940 --> 01:18:19.940 This is definitely the last one that we know of, unless miraculously we find another one. 01:18:19.940 --> 01:18:20.940 So that's it. 01:18:20.940 --> 01:18:26.940 No more switches that use in band signaling. 01:18:26.940 --> 01:18:36.940 If anyone that knows me and trying to get a hold of me, voicemail is 781-382-6245. 01:18:36.940 --> 01:18:40.940 That's 781-382-MAIL. 01:18:40.940 --> 01:18:49.940 Or if you want to leave me a message in my laser, it's 206-600-0674. 01:18:49.940 --> 01:18:54.940 Or it's anonymousroyal at gmail.com. 01:18:55.940 --> 01:18:59.940 And about three more days until this goes. 01:18:59.940 --> 01:19:00.940 That was Charles. 01:19:10.940 --> 01:19:12.940 Hi, my name is . 01:19:12.940 --> 01:19:17.940 I'm calling in from the 301 NPA up here in Silver Spring, Maryland. 01:19:17.940 --> 01:19:20.940 Heard about this on the BINRAD forums. 01:19:20.940 --> 01:19:23.940 And, wow, I didn't even know these things were still around. 01:19:23.940 --> 01:19:29.940 So, anywho, when I'm done, I'm going to try to whistle off my first line. 01:19:29.940 --> 01:19:34.940 So, anywho, I kind of missed all this stuff. 01:19:34.940 --> 01:19:41.940 I'm still in high school, so I just want to thank everyone that has phone trips up on their sites, 01:19:41.940 --> 01:19:44.940 because I've listened to hours of them. 01:19:44.940 --> 01:19:50.940 It is so awesome to hear the beauty, the truly beauty, of the old bell system. 01:19:50.940 --> 01:19:53.940 It's like it was alive. 01:19:53.940 --> 01:19:58.940 So, anywho, if anyone has any stories or recordings or stuff they'd like to share, 01:19:58.940 --> 01:20:06.940 go ahead and drop me a line at e-mail dot light at g as in green mail dot com. 01:20:06.940 --> 01:20:12.940 I'd absolutely love to hear any kind of old-time freaking stories or recordings you might have. 01:20:12.940 --> 01:20:17.940 So, with that said, here's to the Walwina end, too. 01:20:17.940 --> 01:20:19.940 She was truly a thing of beauty. 01:20:19.940 --> 01:20:23.940 It's a shame she couldn't stay it up longer for more people to enjoy. 01:20:23.940 --> 01:20:25.940 So, may she rest in peace. 01:20:25.940 --> 01:20:29.940 And, with that said, I'm going to try to whistle off now. 01:20:37.940 --> 01:20:42.940 Here in Louisville, Kentucky, I'm going to try to whistle this thing off with feedback from my cordless phone. 01:20:49.940 --> 01:21:06.940 Okay, this is new bell here one more time before she goes down. 01:21:06.940 --> 01:21:09.940 I actually had a real tough time getting in. 01:21:09.940 --> 01:21:12.940 I had to try two, three times, and the background noise was horrible. 01:21:12.940 --> 01:21:13.940 It's still kind of bad. 01:21:13.940 --> 01:21:23.940 But, I'm going to try here to make a fool of myself on the recording and see if I can whistle this off without using anything but just blowing. 01:21:23.940 --> 01:21:26.940 Let's see if I can do this here if I can. 01:21:26.940 --> 01:21:28.940 Goodbye and farewell to the end, too. 01:21:28.940 --> 01:21:31.940 And, if I can't, I guess I'll end up saying it again. 01:21:31.940 --> 01:21:35.940 Hey, what's up, everyone? 01:21:35.940 --> 01:21:37.940 This is Royal from Massachusetts. 01:21:37.940 --> 01:21:41.940 If I could leave another message on here, because my other one didn't come in very well. 01:21:41.940 --> 01:21:43.940 I want to pay for another current moment. 01:21:43.940 --> 01:21:45.940 Unfortunately, I don't have a choice at the moment right now. 01:21:45.940 --> 01:21:49.940 But, I want to say goodbye once again to this N2 carrier. 01:21:49.940 --> 01:21:51.940 It's too bad it's being switched over to T1. 01:21:51.940 --> 01:21:54.940 Because, you know, it's very hard nowadays to find an analog switch. 01:21:54.940 --> 01:21:57.940 And, you know, nothing is in band anymore. 01:21:57.940 --> 01:21:59.940 But, I want to say goodbye. 01:21:59.940 --> 01:22:03.940 It's definitely going to be a sad day when this goes. 01:22:03.940 --> 01:22:05.940 I don't know. 01:22:05.940 --> 01:22:07.940 I'll go ahead and meet my contact. 01:22:07.940 --> 01:22:08.940 I can fill out here. 01:22:08.940 --> 01:22:10.940 I am another phone freak from Massachusetts. 01:22:10.940 --> 01:22:12.940 I know a lot of people out here left there and fill out here. 01:22:12.940 --> 01:22:13.940 So, I'll leave mine. 01:22:13.940 --> 01:22:18.940 The voicemail is 781-382-MAIL. 01:22:18.940 --> 01:22:23.940 Again, that's 781-382-6245. 01:22:23.940 --> 01:22:26.940 Anyone can leave me a message there. 01:22:26.940 --> 01:22:34.940 Otherwise, you can leave it in laser voicemail box 206-600-0674. 01:22:34.940 --> 01:22:39.940 Email is anonymousroyal at gmail.com. 01:22:39.940 --> 01:22:44.940 The word anonymous, the word royal, all together, at gmail.com. 01:22:44.940 --> 01:22:48.940 And, I guess, yeah, two more days. 01:22:48.940 --> 01:22:50.940 We have two more days until this is gone. 01:22:50.940 --> 01:22:52.940 Happy draft. 01:22:52.940 --> 01:22:56.940 So, that's just some of the messages. 01:22:56.940 --> 01:22:58.940 There's a lot more out there, actually. 01:22:58.940 --> 01:23:00.940 It's about, oh, two and a half hours worth. 01:23:00.940 --> 01:23:03.940 But, that's going to be it for now. 01:23:03.940 --> 01:23:07.940 I mean, if we ever do another show, I might just pop the other half of the board on there, 01:23:07.940 --> 01:23:09.940 because I think I roughed it. 01:23:09.940 --> 01:23:12.940 But, there's some more people on there, and there's more interesting things. 01:23:12.940 --> 01:23:13.940 But, it just gave you it. 01:23:13.940 --> 01:23:16.940 The song tonight, you've actually heard before, was on the messages. 01:23:16.940 --> 01:23:19.940 So, I think it was very apropos just to post it as the outro. 01:23:19.940 --> 01:23:21.940 So, this is Black Ratchet. 01:23:21.940 --> 01:23:23.940 And, technically, I won't see you. 01:23:23.940 --> 01:23:24.940 But, it's DankDog. 01:23:24.940 --> 01:23:25.940 We'll see you. 01:23:25.940 --> 01:23:39.940 It's a world of numbers, a world of phones. 01:23:39.940 --> 01:23:43.940 It's a place we play when we're all alone. 01:23:43.940 --> 01:23:47.940 Every phone company thrives all the days of our lives. 01:23:47.940 --> 01:23:50.940 It's a phone world after all. 01:23:50.940 --> 01:23:55.940 You can always get one more pill, more box. 01:23:55.940 --> 01:23:59.940 If you want to stand on your own soapbox. 01:23:59.940 --> 01:24:03.940 If you have lots to say, and there's no other way. 01:24:03.940 --> 01:24:07.940 It's a phone world after all. 01:24:07.940 --> 01:24:11.940 It's a phone world after all. 01:24:11.940 --> 01:24:15.940 It's a phone world after all. 01:24:15.940 --> 01:24:18.940 It's a phone world after all. 01:24:18.940 --> 01:24:22.940 It's a phone, phone world. 01:24:22.940 --> 01:24:26.940 Oh, we had graffiti and e-voice too. 01:24:26.940 --> 01:24:30.940 When they went away, oh, we felt so blue. 01:24:30.940 --> 01:24:34.940 But, for us who are blind, there's more numbers to find. 01:24:34.940 --> 01:24:38.940 It's a phone world after all. 01:24:38.940 --> 01:24:42.940 Oh, we love those numbers and area codes. 01:24:42.940 --> 01:24:46.940 And we quickly repeat what we've just been told. 01:24:46.940 --> 01:24:50.940 Until long distance ends, we don't need real friends. 01:24:50.940 --> 01:24:52.940 It's a phone world after all. 01:24:55.940 --> 01:25:05.940 It's a phone world after all. 01:25:05.940 --> 01:25:10.940 It's a phone, phone world. 01:25:20.940 --> 01:25:22.940 You