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This is dedicated to all the hackers and the crackers

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I see in binary, I speak source code

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Step on my toes, I'll post a million jpegs of you in a fag pose

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In your digital stance, getting firewalled ho

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Cause I'm riding the net in my six-fold

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I was a dick with my 56

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Now with my cable, I'm able to get that stable

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On the out, my name is Ace and I'm a Leo

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On the digital highway, my name is Neo and I'm a Nero

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In a flash, I'll screw you on burning dreamcast

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You need some ISO? Let me through my hard drive rifle

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Our exchange you could never stifle

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In a digital hug, you just caught the love bug

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I bootlegged your CD, I caused a fight between Un and Jay-Z

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Your CG, it's all gonna be free

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Whether we take it by force or we take it nicely

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You feel that rattle in your bones?

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When I tell you we just packed out Jones

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And NASDAQ leaves you flat on your back

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack

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Cause I am he who loves to hack and crack

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the craps

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Cereal phones, source codes, ISO, RAM, SIP, SIP

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This is dedicated to the hackers and the...

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Hello! Welcome to Binary Evolution Radio, episode 175

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Today's date, November 28, 2006

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We're almost getting to December here

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That's kind of creepy

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I'm Black Ratchet, and with us this week is Booter

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Hello, hello

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Yes, Booter here

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And this is your first episode, right?

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Yes, I'm getting my cherries

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Wow

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We're just getting a bunch of, you know, cherries on this show

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I think we can get Kyle

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And I think, no, it wasn't Savant's first episode

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Who else do we have?

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Man, there's like all these rookies coming on here

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But it's what Binary Revolution Radio is about

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It doesn't matter who you are

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Or how much experience you'll have

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We'll put you on the radio

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As long as you know what you're talking about

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Right

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Yes

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And this is episode 175

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I'm not sure if we mentioned that

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But the one thing that I do will say

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Is that there's no telephonic craptacular

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I had one person actually email me

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Asking about whether or not

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It's going to be a telephonic craptacular this week

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And sorry, kids

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No, no

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Yeah, I was kind of wondering

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If I could go and do it again, too

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I didn't even realize this was 175

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Actually, to be completely honest with you

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I might have tried to do it

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But I completely forgot that this was 175

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And they usually have

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That they even have a telephonic craptacular on

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The, I don't know what you would call it

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The quarter century episodes

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What was the last one?

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150?

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I think it was the last one

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Or 125, maybe

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I don't know

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It's been a while

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I don't think Strom and I did one

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So

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I have no clue

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I really don't know when the last one was

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But actually

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It was probably right around

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The time Freak Factor took off

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Because that's what Stank said

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That there was going to be

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No more telephonic craptaculars

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Because Freak Factor was going to do that

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So

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Oh, okay

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So technically he's right

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But not because Freak Factor's still on

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But because we don't know what's going on

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So

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Maybe for 200

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Yeah

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Well, hopefully

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Hopefully soon enough

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You know

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I know certain things

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And Freak Factor may be coming back out

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At some point

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Who knows

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It's in the works

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It's just more a matter of

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You know

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Getting people

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And combating real life

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And all that stuff

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Yeah

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Yeah

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So

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I think that's about

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That's about it for housekeeping

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Do you have anything?

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How are you doing this evening?

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But are we always seem to be

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Really glossing over the housekeeping

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Portions of the show?

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Um

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Let's go try them

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Witty banter

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I've just been

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Really busy with work

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And uh

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And uh

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Reverse cougar hunting

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And um

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I just started

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What?

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Reverse cougar?

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You know what a cougar is, right?

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Uh oh

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I

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The

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The

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The

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I don't know what you say

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Not lion

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But

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The

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The feline

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Wild animal

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That would probably kill me

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If it saw me

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Well it's also

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Like an older female

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That uh

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Goes after younger guys

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Oh

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I've been doing reverse cougar hunting

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I go to the bars

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Where all the older women hang out at

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Well isn't that sort of like

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Milf hunting?

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Yeah

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Basically yeah

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Oh

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I have a milf special here

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Here I am

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You know

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You're thinking like

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You know

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Well I don't know

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He's run down south type there

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You know

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Reverse cougar hunting

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Maybe he's like

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You know

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Letting the cougar chase him

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Or something

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That's how they

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Spend their Saturday nights

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I don't know

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Yeah

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That and uh

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Well just a couple days ago

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I decided to uh

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To come up with this little project

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Just for

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Sheer fun of it

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Well

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Well I mean

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Don't talk about technology here man

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Because we're going to go

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I'm going to go fill up the uh

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Personal hacking stories

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Oh no

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I'll be okay

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Yeah

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I'll wait for your

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Personal hacking stories

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I mean

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If you want to talk about

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Cougar hunting though man

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That's the area

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Well okay

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That sort of like

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Fell flat on his face

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So do you think

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We should go into email?

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Uh

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Yes

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I'm good

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Alright

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Alright

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Our uh

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First email this evening

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And I'm

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Not sure how to pronounce his name

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It's

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D-I-D-I-E-R

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So I'm going to call it like

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You know

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Didier

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And uh

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Didier

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I don't know

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Could be like some type of like

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You know

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European name

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Like

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Didier

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Who knows

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Um

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Well it actually probably is a European name

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Considering he says

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Hello

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I was at Microsoft

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Tech Ed Developers

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At Barcelona this week

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And I listened to some episodes

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Of Bin Rev Radio

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During the breaks

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Thought you would find this funny

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Thanks for the show

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Didier

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Or

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Didier

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Or

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Di

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I don't know

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But I

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Personally

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I

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Well I guess it's kind of cool

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That we were being listened to

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At Tech Ed

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By somebody

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But

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You know

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I don't find that funny

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Or amusing

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Or anything

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I mean hell

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I went to

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Microsoft

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I didn't go to Tech Ed

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But I went to a couple

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Other conferences

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Yeah when I was looking over the show notes

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I was thinking

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Well did he forget a link to something

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That we're supposed to

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Find funny

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Or

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I find it funny if like

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You know

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Someone like

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You know

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Went up and

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You know

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Tapped into the audio system

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And was playing Bin Rev Radio

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During the breaks

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Over the PA system

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Oh that would be late

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That would

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That would be crazy

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Yeah

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Look at the Bin Rev Radio

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Motherfuckers

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But

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Yeah I mean

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I'm pretty sure

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That there are other people

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That have listened to Bin Rev Radio

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At various

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Official conferences

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Actually I wouldn't be surprised

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If I feel like

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There's people in the government

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Listening

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And

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Okay

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People in the government

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Listening

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In a non-required sense

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I bet there's like

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A couple

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Agents out there

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Like listening to the show

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Going

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Oh

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See if we can get any

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Dirt on these people

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Yeah I'm not

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I'm not sure

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You know

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What the

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However many downloads

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Per week and stuff are

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But I mean

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There's bound to be

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Somebody out there

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That works in some

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Federal organization

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That listens to it

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Well I mean

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I don't know

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What the heck

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Was going on

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But apparently

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The .NET episode

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Two weeks ago

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Was absolutely like

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Off the charts

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For download

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Like we doubled

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Our download rate

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So I guess

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It was like

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Something like

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6,000 or something

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Like that

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When he told me

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It was 5,000

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But it was

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I don't think

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It was even a week

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After the show came out

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So I wouldn't be surprised

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If it was like

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6,000 a week

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And I think

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Normally

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Normally

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We get around

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2,800 to 3,000

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Downloads

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And of course

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That

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I mean

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I'm not sure

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If we

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Now

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That number

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Sounds big

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But at the same

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Point

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I don't think

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That's 3,000

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Separate people

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That's like

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All the podcast feeds

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And people who have

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Us in their podcasting

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Set up

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But never actually

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Listen

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So

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I mean

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I wouldn't be surprised

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But I just

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I don't understand

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Where all these

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Downloads are coming from

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And

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But I don't know

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I guess

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I guess people

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Dig the .NET

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Yeah

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And actually

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Speaking

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Speaking of .NET

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This actually

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Kind of works well

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Going into our next email

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Because this was

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Completely by accident

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Our next email

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Is from Pixel

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And it's

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Black Ratchet and

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Kyle L

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I am an avid

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Long time listener

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And I have a few

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Comments

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To response to your

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Java versus .NET

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Discussion on number

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173

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First I'd like to

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Point out that I'm

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Biased as I am

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An enterprise

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Java developer

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But I've used .NET

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To build Windows

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Mobile applications

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You mentioned that

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You have to install

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The Java virtual machine

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In order to run

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Java apps

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This is true

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But you also have to

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Install the .NET

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Compact framework

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Or mono

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To run a .NET

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Application

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Just because

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This shifts

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With the different

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Distros

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Doesn't mean

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You're not

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Doing the same

09:03.380 --> 09:03.680
Thing

09:03.680 --> 09:04.640
The .NET

09:04.640 --> 09:05.740
Compact framework

09:05.740 --> 09:06.620
CLR

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Is the Java

09:08.360 --> 09:09.000
JVM

09:09.000 --> 09:11.000
Regarding your

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Just in time

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Compiling

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I may be wrong

09:12.980 --> 09:13.360
About this

09:13.360 --> 09:13.820
But I believe

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This is just

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Only for web

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Applications

09:16.060 --> 09:16.620
If it is

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Then free

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Open source

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Java web

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Server

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Apache Tomcat

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Compiles and

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Caches

09:21.740 --> 09:22.580
Java server

09:22.580 --> 09:23.220
Pages each

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Time they're

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Modified

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As do most

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Other Java

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Web servers

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A JSP

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Equivalent

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Is

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I'm sorry

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I don't think

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I read that

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Right

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A JSP

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Equivalent

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To an

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ASPX

09:35.520 --> 09:35.880
Page

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Anyway

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However a

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Properly designed

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Java web app

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Uses JSP

09:41.780 --> 09:42.480
For presentation

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Only

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Which is

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Called by a

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Servlet

09:44.760 --> 09:45.320
Which contains

09:45.320 --> 09:46.000
All the business

09:46.000 --> 09:46.360
Logic

09:46.360 --> 09:47.040
This is

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Almost the

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Exact opposite

09:48.400 --> 09:48.960
Of .NET

09:48.960 --> 09:49.360
Where an

09:49.360 --> 09:51.000
ASPX

09:51.000 --> 09:51.420
Page

09:51.420 --> 09:52.480
Calls

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The code

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Behind

09:53.520 --> 09:54.100
And the

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Brain

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Of the

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ASPX

09:55.580 --> 09:55.940
Page

09:55.940 --> 09:58.180
The one

09:58.180 --> 09:58.500
Thing that

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Java is

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Bad at

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And I will

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Agree

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Completely

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Is with

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GUI

10:01.880 --> 10:02.540
Applications

10:02.540 --> 10:03.320
Trying to

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Make a

10:03.580 --> 10:03.780
GUI

10:03.780 --> 10:04.560
Cross-platform

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Was as

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Bad an

10:05.560 --> 10:05.960
Idea

10:05.960 --> 10:07.020
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End up

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With

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Crap

10:07.780 --> 10:08.220
Like you

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As you

10:08.920 --> 10:09.220
End up

10:09.220 --> 10:09.340
With

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Crap

10:09.660 --> 10:10.240
UIs

10:10.240 --> 10:11.440
Java

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Strength

10:11.760 --> 10:12.060
Lies

10:12.060 --> 10:12.280
In its

10:12.280 --> 10:12.860
Availability

10:12.860 --> 10:13.100
With

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A Java

10:13.560 --> 10:14.040
Application

10:14.040 --> 10:14.400
Server

10:14.400 --> 10:14.880
Nor

10:14.880 --> 10:15.180
A web

10:15.180 --> 10:15.500
Server

10:15.500 --> 10:16.160
Will

10:16.160 --> 10:16.480
Typically

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Have

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Built-in

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Clustering

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And

10:17.900 --> 10:18.260
Failover

10:18.260 --> 10:18.840
Capabilities

10:18.840 --> 10:19.360
Capable

10:19.360 --> 10:19.480
Of

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Handing

10:19.800 --> 10:20.360
Thousands

10:20.360 --> 10:20.660
Of

10:20.660 --> 10:21.340
Transactions

10:21.340 --> 10:21.680
A

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Minute

10:21.880 --> 10:22.100
With

10:22.100 --> 10:22.420
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10:22.420 --> 10:22.900
Overheads

10:22.900 --> 10:23.380
I

10:23.380 --> 10:23.720
Recently

10:23.720 --> 10:23.960
Built

10:23.960 --> 10:24.080
A

10:24.080 --> 10:24.300
System

10:24.300 --> 10:24.540
Where

10:24.540 --> 10:24.700
A

10:24.700 --> 10:24.940
Single

10:24.940 --> 10:25.220
Node

10:25.220 --> 10:25.820
Processes

10:25.820 --> 10:26.040
Over

10:26.040 --> 10:27.100
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Transactions

10:27.740 --> 10:28.040
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Hour

10:28.300 --> 10:28.980
Without

10:28.980 --> 10:29.560
Even

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Noticing

10:29.980 --> 10:30.160
The

10:30.160 --> 10:30.440
Load

10:30.440 --> 10:31.880
.NET

10:31.880 --> 10:32.040
Is

10:32.040 --> 10:32.280
Great

10:32.280 --> 10:32.460
For

10:32.460 --> 10:32.780
Building

10:32.780 --> 10:33.320
Small

10:33.320 --> 10:33.520
To

10:33.520 --> 10:33.760
Medium

10:33.760 --> 10:34.280
Size

10:34.280 --> 10:34.540
Web

10:34.540 --> 10:34.880
Apps

10:34.880 --> 10:35.420
And

10:35.420 --> 10:35.540
For

10:35.540 --> 10:35.840
Creating

10:35.840 --> 10:36.160
GUI

10:36.160 --> 10:36.780
Applications

10:36.780 --> 10:37.260
I

10:37.260 --> 10:37.400
Have

10:37.400 --> 10:37.600
Run

10:37.600 --> 10:37.880
Model

10:37.880 --> 10:38.140
Apps

10:38.140 --> 10:38.300
On

10:38.300 --> 10:38.480
Many

10:38.480 --> 10:38.760
Unix

10:38.760 --> 10:39.260
Boxes

10:39.260 --> 10:39.540
In

10:39.540 --> 10:39.660
The

10:39.660 --> 10:40.020
Past

10:40.020 --> 10:41.240
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10:41.240 --> 10:41.380
There

10:41.380 --> 10:41.480
Is

10:41.480 --> 10:41.600
A

10:41.600 --> 10:41.840
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10:41.840 --> 10:42.100
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10:42.100 --> 10:42.420
Google

10:42.420 --> 10:43.000
Ebay

10:43.000 --> 10:43.220
And

10:43.220 --> 10:43.380
Pretty

10:43.380 --> 10:43.620
Much

10:43.620 --> 10:43.960
Every

10:43.960 --> 10:44.460
Financial

10:44.460 --> 10:44.940
Institution

10:44.940 --> 10:45.140
On

10:45.140 --> 10:45.240
The

10:45.240 --> 10:45.480
Planet

10:45.480 --> 10:45.860
Runs

10:45.860 --> 10:45.980
Your

10:45.980 --> 10:46.280
Systems

10:46.280 --> 10:46.520
On

10:46.520 --> 10:46.780
Java

10:46.780 --> 10:47.240
And

10:47.240 --> 10:47.360
It's

10:47.360 --> 10:47.500
Not

10:47.500 --> 10:49.860
Just

10:49.860 --> 10:50.180
Because

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You

10:50.340 --> 10:51.020
Don't

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Want

10:51.200 --> 10:51.320
Your

10:51.320 --> 10:51.520
Bank

10:51.520 --> 10:51.660
To

10:51.660 --> 10:51.820
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10:51.820 --> 10:51.980
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10:51.980 --> 10:52.120
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10:52.120 --> 10:52.360
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10:52.360 --> 10:53.040
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10:53.040 --> 10:53.200
As

10:53.200 --> 10:53.300
I

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Mentioned

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Am

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Producing

10:55.220 --> 10:55.620
RHO

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10:56.060 --> 10:56.200
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10:56.200 --> 10:56.420
Work

10:56.420 --> 10:56.860
Pixel

10:56.860 --> 10:58.100
And

10:58.100 --> 10:58.340
I

10:58.340 --> 10:59.100
Think

10:59.100 --> 10:59.360
Did

10:59.360 --> 10:59.600
Call

10:59.600 --> 10:59.900
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10:59.900 --> 11:00.020
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11:00.020 --> 11:00.380
Episode

11:00.380 --> 11:00.620
I

11:00.620 --> 11:00.760
Knew

11:00.760 --> 11:00.900
We

11:00.900 --> 11:01.040
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11:01.040 --> 11:01.360
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11:01.360 --> 11:01.780
Java

11:01.780 --> 11:02.040
Lover

11:02.040 --> 11:02.220
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Call

11:02.440 --> 11:02.620
Us

11:02.620 --> 11:02.780
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11:02.780 --> 11:02.920
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11:02.920 --> 11:03.060
Our

11:03.060 --> 11:03.540
.NET

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Kind

11:03.960 --> 11:04.060
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11:04.060 --> 11:05.080
.NET

11:05.080 --> 11:05.600
Rules

11:05.600 --> 11:06.040
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11:06.040 --> 11:06.300
We've

11:06.300 --> 11:06.440
Been

11:06.440 --> 11:07.020
Making

11:07.020 --> 11:07.220
Those

11:07.220 --> 11:07.620
Statements

11:07.620 --> 11:07.860
But

11:07.860 --> 11:08.540
I'm

11:08.540 --> 11:08.720
Glad

11:08.720 --> 11:09.020
Pixel

11:09.020 --> 11:09.380
Actually

11:09.380 --> 11:09.620
Sent

11:09.620 --> 11:09.780
Us

11:09.780 --> 11:10.020
A

11:10.020 --> 11:10.420
Very

11:10.420 --> 11:10.780
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11:10.780 --> 11:11.360
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11:11.360 --> 11:11.700
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11:11.700 --> 11:11.820
Of

11:11.820 --> 11:12.200
Arguments

11:12.200 --> 11:12.420
And

11:12.420 --> 11:13.680
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11:13.680 --> 11:14.100
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11:14.100 --> 11:14.180
To

11:14.180 --> 11:14.320
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11:14.320 --> 11:14.660
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11:14.660 --> 11:14.760
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11:14.760 --> 11:14.960
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11:14.960 --> 11:16.600
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11:16.600 --> 11:16.960
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11:16.960 --> 11:17.520
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11:17.520 --> 11:17.620
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11:17.620 --> 11:17.720
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11:17.720 --> 11:18.400
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11:18.400 --> 11:18.480
A

11:18.480 --> 11:18.860
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11:18.860 --> 11:19.100
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11:19.100 --> 11:19.860
JVM

11:19.860 --> 11:20.160
Versus

11:20.160 --> 11:20.440
Common

11:20.440 --> 11:21.600
Language

11:21.600 --> 11:22.080
Runtime

11:22.080 --> 11:22.640
Environment

11:22.640 --> 11:22.840
And

11:22.840 --> 11:22.940
All

11:22.940 --> 11:23.060
That

11:23.060 --> 11:23.280
Stuff

11:23.280 --> 11:23.740
CLR

11:23.740 --> 11:24.500
I'm

11:24.500 --> 11:24.620
Not

11:24.620 --> 11:24.780
Sure

11:24.780 --> 11:24.900
If

11:24.900 --> 11:24.960
I

11:24.960 --> 11:25.040
Got

11:25.040 --> 11:25.260
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11:25.260 --> 11:26.440
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11:26.440 --> 11:26.640
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11:26.640 --> 11:26.800
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11:26.800 --> 11:27.100
We're

11:27.100 --> 11:27.380
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11:27.380 --> 11:27.500
To

11:27.500 --> 11:27.660
Touch

11:27.660 --> 11:27.820
That

11:27.820 --> 11:27.980
Right

11:27.980 --> 11:28.160
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11:28.160 --> 11:29.940
I

11:29.940 --> 11:30.440
Always

11:30.440 --> 11:30.660
Get

11:30.660 --> 11:30.840
The

11:30.840 --> 11:31.240
Feeling

11:31.240 --> 11:31.580
The

11:31.580 --> 11:32.800
CLR

11:32.800 --> 11:32.940
Is

11:32.940 --> 11:33.080
A

11:33.080 --> 11:33.560
Bit

11:33.560 --> 11:34.140
Better

11:34.140 --> 11:34.680
Integrated

11:34.680 --> 11:34.880
On

11:34.880 --> 11:35.020
The

11:35.020 --> 11:35.360
System

11:35.360 --> 11:36.180
At

11:36.180 --> 11:36.400
Least

11:36.400 --> 11:36.580
In

11:36.580 --> 11:36.900
Windows

11:36.900 --> 11:38.060
I

11:38.060 --> 11:38.480
Think

11:38.480 --> 11:38.720
That

11:38.720 --> 11:38.980
You're

11:38.980 --> 11:39.280
Right

11:39.280 --> 11:39.480
When

11:39.480 --> 11:39.640
You're

11:39.640 --> 11:39.880
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11:39.880 --> 11:40.120
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11:40.120 --> 11:40.260
It

11:40.260 --> 11:40.520
Within

11:40.520 --> 11:40.980
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11:40.980 --> 11:41.400
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11:41.400 --> 11:41.900
Viewpoint

11:41.900 --> 11:42.220
Like

11:42.220 --> 11:42.420
When

11:42.420 --> 11:42.520
You're

11:42.520 --> 11:42.860
Installing

11:42.860 --> 11:44.140
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11:44.140 --> 11:44.280
On

11:44.280 --> 11:45.040
A

11:45.040 --> 11:45.280
Unix

11:45.280 --> 11:45.600
System

11:45.600 --> 11:47.080
However

11:47.080 --> 11:47.400
Whenever

11:47.400 --> 11:47.680
I

11:47.680 --> 11:48.000
Load up

11:48.000 --> 11:48.120
A

11:48.120 --> 11:48.340
Java

11:48.340 --> 11:48.820
Application

11:48.820 --> 11:48.980
On

11:48.980 --> 11:49.080
A

11:49.080 --> 11:49.260
Web

11:49.260 --> 11:49.720
Page

11:49.720 --> 11:50.960
Or

11:50.960 --> 11:51.240
You

11:51.240 --> 11:51.320
Know

11:51.320 --> 11:51.540
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11:51.540 --> 11:51.840
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11:51.840 --> 11:52.060
Wire

11:52.060 --> 11:52.240
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11:52.240 --> 11:52.560
Something

11:52.560 --> 11:54.280
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11:54.280 --> 11:54.680
System

11:54.680 --> 11:55.000
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11:55.000 --> 11:55.100
Is

11:55.100 --> 11:55.220
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11:55.220 --> 11:55.340
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11:55.340 --> 11:55.520
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11:55.520 --> 11:55.920
System

11:55.920 --> 11:56.300
It

11:56.300 --> 11:56.840
Really

11:56.840 --> 11:57.100
You

11:57.100 --> 11:57.480
Can

11:57.480 --> 11:57.760
Tell

11:57.760 --> 11:57.920
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11:57.920 --> 11:58.120
There's

11:58.120 --> 11:58.180
A

11:58.180 --> 11:58.540
Performance

11:58.540 --> 11:58.900
While

11:58.900 --> 11:59.020
It

11:59.020 --> 11:59.380
Hulls

11:59.380 --> 11:59.700
Itself

11:59.700 --> 11:59.920
Up

11:59.920 --> 12:00.140
Into

12:00.140 --> 12:00.820
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12:00.820 --> 12:01.940
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12:01.940 --> 12:02.080
I'm

12:02.080 --> 12:02.220
Running

12:02.220 --> 12:02.400
Like

12:02.400 --> 12:02.500
A

12:02.500 --> 12:02.840
.NET

12:02.840 --> 12:03.360
Application

12:03.360 --> 12:03.660
It

12:03.660 --> 12:04.140
Really

12:04.140 --> 12:04.420
Doesn't

12:04.420 --> 12:04.560
Do

12:04.560 --> 12:04.740
That

12:04.740 --> 12:04.920
On

12:04.920 --> 12:05.540
Windows

12:05.540 --> 12:05.840
And

12:05.840 --> 12:06.120
Not

12:06.120 --> 12:06.320
Even

12:06.320 --> 12:06.860
Linux

12:06.860 --> 12:06.980
In

12:06.980 --> 12:07.120
My

12:07.120 --> 12:07.640
Experience

12:07.640 --> 12:11.740
As

12:11.740 --> 12:11.920
For

12:11.920 --> 12:12.140
Web

12:12.140 --> 12:12.800
Applications

12:12.800 --> 12:13.540
I'm

12:13.540 --> 12:13.760
Not

12:13.760 --> 12:13.960
Really

12:13.960 --> 12:14.140
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12:14.140 --> 12:14.240
To

12:14.240 --> 12:14.400
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12:14.400 --> 12:14.580
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12:14.580 --> 12:14.900
Statements

12:14.900 --> 12:15.140
About

12:15.140 --> 12:15.340
That

12:15.340 --> 12:15.620
I

12:15.620 --> 12:17.420
Don't

12:17.420 --> 12:18.020
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12:18.020 --> 12:19.740
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12:19.740 --> 12:20.320
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12:20.320 --> 12:20.920
Have

12:20.920 --> 12:21.560
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12:21.560 --> 12:21.820
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12:21.820 --> 12:22.200
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12:22.200 --> 12:23.100
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12:23.100 --> 12:23.360
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12:23.360 --> 12:23.460
It

12:23.460 --> 12:23.580
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12:23.580 --> 12:23.700
I've

12:23.700 --> 12:23.860
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12:23.860 --> 12:24.120
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12:24.120 --> 12:24.700
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12:24.700 --> 12:24.880
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12:24.880 --> 12:25.420
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12:25.420 --> 12:25.680
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12:25.680 --> 12:26.040
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12:26.040 --> 12:26.740
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12:26.740 --> 12:27.500
All

12:27.500 --> 12:27.840
Web

12:27.840 --> 12:28.180
Development

12:28.180 --> 12:28.480
Windows

12:28.480 --> 12:28.880
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12:28.880 --> 12:29.100
I'm

12:29.100 --> 12:29.200
A

12:29.200 --> 12:29.520
PHP

12:29.520 --> 12:29.960
Person

12:29.960 --> 12:31.540
And

12:31.540 --> 12:32.140
Personally

12:32.140 --> 12:32.960
I'm

12:32.960 --> 12:33.400
Very

12:33.400 --> 12:33.820
Happy

12:33.820 --> 12:34.020
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12:34.020 --> 12:34.220
Stay

12:34.220 --> 12:34.460
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12:34.460 --> 12:34.720
Way

12:34.720 --> 12:36.340
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12:36.340 --> 12:36.820
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12:36.820 --> 12:36.940
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12:36.940 --> 12:37.040
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12:37.040 --> 12:37.200
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12:37.200 --> 12:37.400
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12:37.400 --> 12:37.680
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12:37.680 --> 12:38.320
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12:38.320 --> 12:38.740
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12:38.740 --> 12:38.880
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Corridor

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20:30.820 --> 20:31.000
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20:31.560 --> 20:31.740
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20:33.440 --> 20:33.620
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20:34.040 --> 20:34.240
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20:34.760 --> 20:34.980
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20:34.980 --> 20:35.260
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20:35.660 --> 20:36.000
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20:36.000 --> 20:36.220
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20:36.220 --> 20:36.520
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20:36.520 --> 20:36.800
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20:36.800 --> 20:37.060
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20:37.060 --> 20:38.980
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20:38.980 --> 20:39.280
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20:39.280 --> 20:39.680
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20:40.040 --> 20:40.260
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20:40.440 --> 20:40.600
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20:40.600 --> 20:40.760
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20:40.760 --> 20:40.880
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20:41.340 --> 20:41.400
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20:41.780 --> 20:41.940
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20:41.940 --> 20:42.020
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20:42.020 --> 20:42.240
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20:42.240 --> 20:43.040
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20:43.040 --> 20:43.960
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20:43.960 --> 20:44.080
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20:44.080 --> 20:44.180
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20:44.180 --> 20:44.420
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20:44.420 --> 20:44.740
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20:44.740 --> 20:44.960
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20:44.960 --> 20:45.040
It

20:45.040 --> 20:45.160
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20:55.980 --> 20:56.340
PS1

20:56.340 --> 20:56.540
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20:56.540 --> 20:56.680
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20:56.680 --> 20:56.800
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20:56.800 --> 20:56.880
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20:56.880 --> 20:56.960
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20:56.960 --> 20:57.080
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20:57.080 --> 20:57.200
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20:58.560 --> 20:59.600
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20:59.600 --> 21:00.100
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21:00.100 --> 21:00.200
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21:00.200 --> 21:00.400
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21:00.400 --> 21:00.520
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21:00.520 --> 21:00.680
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21:00.680 --> 21:00.800
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21:00.800 --> 21:01.000
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21:01.000 --> 21:01.340
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21:01.340 --> 21:01.420
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21:01.420 --> 21:01.500
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21:01.500 --> 21:01.620
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21:01.620 --> 21:02.100
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21:02.100 --> 21:02.380
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21:02.380 --> 21:02.460
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21:02.460 --> 21:02.580
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21:02.580 --> 21:02.780
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21:02.780 --> 21:02.940
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21:02.940 --> 21:03.140
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21:03.260 --> 21:03.360
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21:03.360 --> 21:03.760
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21:03.760 --> 21:03.880
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21:03.880 --> 21:04.000
It

21:04.000 --> 21:04.300
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21:04.300 --> 21:04.860
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21:04.860 --> 21:05.020
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21:05.020 --> 21:05.160
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21:05.160 --> 21:05.240
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21:05.240 --> 21:05.320
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21:05.320 --> 21:05.440
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21:05.440 --> 21:05.920
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21:05.920 --> 21:06.080
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21:06.080 --> 21:06.180
It

21:06.180 --> 21:06.300
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21:06.300 --> 21:06.600
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21:06.600 --> 21:06.800
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21:06.800 --> 21:06.920
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21:06.920 --> 21:07.340
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21:07.340 --> 21:07.560
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21:07.560 --> 21:07.620
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21:07.620 --> 21:07.760
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21:07.760 --> 21:08.160
IBM

21:08.160 --> 21:09.620
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21:09.620 --> 21:10.380
Machines

21:10.380 --> 21:10.540
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21:10.540 --> 21:10.640
They

21:10.640 --> 21:10.720
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21:10.720 --> 21:10.940
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21:10.940 --> 21:11.160
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21:11.160 --> 21:11.420
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21:11.420 --> 21:11.760
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21:11.760 --> 21:12.260
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21:12.260 --> 21:13.000
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21:13.000 --> 21:13.600
Don't

21:13.600 --> 21:14.000
Think

21:14.000 --> 21:14.120
It

21:25.980 --> 21:26.160
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21:26.160 --> 21:26.260
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21:26.260 --> 21:26.380
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21:26.380 --> 21:26.520
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21:26.520 --> 21:26.920
Drives

21:26.920 --> 21:27.040
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21:27.040 --> 21:27.140
You

21:27.140 --> 21:27.560
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21:27.560 --> 21:27.760
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21:27.760 --> 21:27.920
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21:27.920 --> 21:28.180
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21:28.180 --> 21:28.320
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21:28.320 --> 21:28.620
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21:28.620 --> 21:28.820
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21:28.820 --> 21:29.300
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21:29.300 --> 21:29.520
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21:29.520 --> 21:30.760
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21:30.760 --> 21:30.880
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21:30.880 --> 21:31.000
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21:31.000 --> 21:31.300
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21:31.300 --> 21:31.480
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21:31.480 --> 21:32.600
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21:32.600 --> 21:34.240
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21:34.240 --> 21:34.420
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21:34.420 --> 21:34.600
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21:34.600 --> 21:34.700
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21:34.700 --> 21:34.880
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21:34.880 --> 21:35.140
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21:35.140 --> 21:35.420
My

21:35.420 --> 21:36.620
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21:36.620 --> 21:38.020
Interaction

21:38.020 --> 21:38.200
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21:38.200 --> 21:38.460
Windows

21:38.460 --> 21:39.060
3.1

21:39.060 --> 21:39.460
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21:39.460 --> 21:39.660
I

21:39.660 --> 21:39.820
Really

21:39.820 --> 21:40.020
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21:40.020 --> 21:40.420
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21:40.420 --> 21:40.720
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21:40.720 --> 21:41.080
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21:41.080 --> 21:41.220
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21:41.220 --> 21:41.820
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21:41.820 --> 21:42.540
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21:42.540 --> 21:42.760
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21:42.760 --> 21:44.700
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21:44.700 --> 21:44.900
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21:44.900 --> 21:45.500
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21:45.500 --> 21:45.720
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21:45.720 --> 21:46.020
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21:46.020 --> 21:46.240
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21:46.240 --> 21:46.800
Realize

21:46.800 --> 21:47.160
What

21:47.160 --> 21:47.420
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21:47.420 --> 21:47.780
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21:47.780 --> 21:48.740
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21:48.740 --> 21:49.100
You

21:49.100 --> 21:49.240
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21:49.240 --> 21:49.820
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21:49.820 --> 21:50.400
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21:50.400 --> 21:50.620
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21:50.620 --> 21:51.080
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21:51.080 --> 21:51.300
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21:51.300 --> 21:51.460
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21:51.460 --> 21:51.620
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21:51.620 --> 21:51.780
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21:51.780 --> 21:52.120
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21:52.120 --> 21:52.620
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21:52.620 --> 21:52.700
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21:52.700 --> 21:52.840
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22:22.700 --> 22:22.900
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22:22.900 --> 22:23.060
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22:23.060 --> 22:23.500
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22:23.500 --> 22:23.860
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22:23.860 --> 22:24.080
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22:24.080 --> 22:24.200
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22:24.200 --> 22:24.320
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22:24.320 --> 22:24.580
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22:24.580 --> 22:24.860
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22:25.300 --> 22:25.560
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22:25.560 --> 22:25.780
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22:25.780 --> 22:26.020
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22:26.020 --> 22:26.280
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22:26.280 --> 22:27.140
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22:27.140 --> 22:27.300
It

22:27.300 --> 22:27.440
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22:27.440 --> 22:27.700
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22:27.700 --> 22:27.860
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22:27.860 --> 22:28.120
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22:28.120 --> 22:28.360
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22:28.360 --> 22:28.640
Book

22:28.640 --> 22:28.780
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22:28.780 --> 22:28.900
It

22:28.900 --> 22:29.100
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22:29.100 --> 22:29.220
You

22:29.220 --> 22:29.360
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22:29.360 --> 22:29.640
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22:29.640 --> 22:30.360
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22:30.360 --> 22:30.520
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22:30.520 --> 22:30.740
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22:30.740 --> 22:31.000
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22:31.000 --> 22:31.660
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22:31.660 --> 22:31.940
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22:31.940 --> 22:32.080
All

22:32.080 --> 22:32.260
That

22:32.260 --> 22:32.460
Stuff

22:32.460 --> 22:32.680
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22:32.680 --> 22:32.980
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22:32.980 --> 22:33.440
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22:33.440 --> 22:33.920
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22:33.920 --> 22:34.140
You

22:34.140 --> 22:34.760
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22:34.760 --> 22:35.060
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22:35.060 --> 22:35.640
Computer

22:35.640 --> 22:35.920
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22:35.920 --> 22:36.460
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22:36.460 --> 22:37.000
64

22:37.000 --> 22:38.500
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22:38.500 --> 22:39.120
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22:39.120 --> 22:39.280
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22:39.280 --> 22:39.720
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22:39.720 --> 22:39.940
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22:39.940 --> 22:40.280
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22:40.280 --> 22:41.020
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22:41.020 --> 22:41.460
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22:41.460 --> 22:42.700
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22:42.700 --> 22:42.940
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22:42.940 --> 22:43.160
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22:43.160 --> 22:43.380
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22:43.380 --> 22:43.620
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22:43.620 --> 22:43.900
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22:43.900 --> 22:44.060
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22:44.060 --> 22:44.160
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22:44.160 --> 22:44.840
386

22:44.840 --> 22:46.580
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22:46.580 --> 22:47.500
It

22:47.500 --> 22:47.920
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22:47.920 --> 22:48.200
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22:48.200 --> 22:48.700
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22:48.700 --> 22:49.220
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22:49.220 --> 22:50.060
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22:50.060 --> 22:50.720
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22:50.720 --> 22:50.860
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22:50.860 --> 22:51.060
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22:51.060 --> 22:51.300
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22:51.300 --> 22:51.740
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22:51.740 --> 22:52.440
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22:52.440 --> 22:53.160
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22:53.160 --> 22:53.700
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22:53.700 --> 22:53.780
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22:53.780 --> 22:53.920
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22:53.920 --> 22:54.240
No

22:54.240 --> 22:54.520
Name

22:54.520 --> 22:55.100
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22:55.100 --> 22:55.400
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22:55.640 --> 22:55.740
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22:55.740 --> 22:55.960
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22:55.960 --> 22:56.160
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22:56.160 --> 22:56.420
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22:56.420 --> 22:56.800
Drive

22:56.800 --> 22:57.480
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22:57.480 --> 22:57.600
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22:57.600 --> 22:58.020
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22:58.020 --> 22:58.840
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22:58.840 --> 22:59.080
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And so I've got to say, doing this all on your cell phone and, you know, being able to stream radio off the Internet while you're moving is pretty damn cool.

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There wasn't any lag or buffering, buffering, nothing like that?

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Well, I mean, it took a while for the stream actually to come down because it was buffering it up.

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But once it started playing, it had a couple of, like, jitters here and there.

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I mean, I listened to this for, like, probably close to two hours, and I think there was only at least two or three times where it paused for, like, five seconds and then it started back up again.

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So it might have been buffering issues or it just might have been the processor was spiked.

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But, oh, dear God, did it go through a battery?

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I think I listened to – I think I played with it for, like, four hours doing all this stuff, and I think I went through half my battery.

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Wow.

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I mean, which is, you know, pretty good compared to all the stuff I was doing on it.

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But still, I was like, wow, maybe perhaps I should turn off the radio.

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All right.

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So what's our specific show topic this evening, Booter?

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Well, I don't know if it's ever been on there, but today's topic is on cultural jamming.

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Cultural jamming or social hacking, I guess you could call it.

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Yeah, I mean, that's another term that I use for it is social hacking.

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Well, you actually introduced me to that term, and I've got to say I like that a lot better than culture jamming because culture jamming always kind of has some interesting connotations with it, and social hacking is a lot more mysterious.

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I said cultural jamming was – even though social hacking is still pretty broad in general, but cultural jamming is, I think, really, really, like, globally – I don't know the word for it, but you know what I mean.

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Yeah, I get the drift.

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Okay.

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Well, for those that don't know what cultural jamming is, I guess we should define a form.

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The wiki defines it – and this is kind of long, but – the wiki defines it as the act of transforming existing mass media to produce negative commentary about itself using the original medium's communication method.

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It is a form of public activism, which is generally in opposition to commercialism and the vectors of corporate image.

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The aim of cultural jamming is to create a contrast between corporate image and the realities of the corporation.

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This is done symbolically with a detournement of pop iconography.

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And like I said, I like to call it social hacking.

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Well, I just think – and that's why I really like the term social hacking over culture jamming because, you know, culture jamming, you know, it's got all these connotations with – and that's where it started out.

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It's like, oh, you know, mass media is bad and all that stuff.

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And, you know, if you agree with that, that's good.

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But, you know, there's a lot of different things you could do just to, like, really – I guess you can really just call it mess with people.

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So –

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Yeah.

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And that's what it really boils down to.

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Yeah.

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Like the social hacking, like, it's basically a way of where you can throw a monkey wrench into somebody's day-to-day life.

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You know, they're going to buy.

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You know, they wake up at the same time.

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They have breakfast.

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They go to work.

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They come home.

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I mean, they have the same pattern every day.

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But with social hacking, you can kind of throw a monkey wrench into their daily life, and it kind of shocks them.

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They look around like, what the fuck just happened?

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You know?

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Yeah, and actually, it's not just even that.

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I mean, it's just more of making them look around and go, okay, wait a minute.

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I mean, it's just – I mean, we're talking about – as opposed to culture jamming where it would be, you know, trying to, you know, make people think, you know.

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I mean, you can really just kind of expand that into, you know, just making people look around at their everyday lives and try to, like, change something that they're not expecting and just make them reevaluate certain things.

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Yeah, I mean, and you can try to plan, you know, like, you know, if you want to do something that is social hacking, you can kind of plan it.

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But a couple years ago, I got a story here, you know, if y'all don't mind hearing it, it's a quick story real quick, that it's actually what got me interested in social engineering, you know, cultural germany, social hacking, you know, whatever term you want to use.

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So, yeah, several years ago, I was going to the store.

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I think it was like a Sunday afternoon.

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I was getting ready to watch football.

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And so I go to the store, and I'm walking down the store with, like, a six-pack of beer.

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And I get in my car, and then next thing I know, this lady and her husband pulled up in this minivan behind my car and blocked me in.

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And I had just shaved, and, you know, I looked, you know, really young.

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She comes up to me, and she goes, are you 21?

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I said, no.

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And then she goes, well, I'm calling the cops.

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And they had me blocked in, so I couldn't leave.

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You know, I was, the store was directly in front of me, and their van was directly behind me.

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They had no way to get out.

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So I was like, okay, go ahead, call the cops.

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And I sat there and waited.

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About 15 minutes later, a cop shows up.

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She tells him, you know, what's going on.

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And he walks up to my window and says, come on, sir, are you ready?

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I said, sure.

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And I pull my ID out.

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I give it to him.

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He looks at it, and he kind of gives me a grin.

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He says, you'll be out of here in just a second.

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And he goes back to them, and he pulls out his ticket book.

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And he writes them a ticket for impeding traffic.

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And the look on her face was like, what?

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What?

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He's not 21.

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He's not 21.

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He said, man, you asked if he was 21, correct?

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She said, yeah.

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He said, he's not 21.

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He's 22.

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And still proceeded to write the ticket.

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And, oh, man, the most evil look she gave me was priceless.

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And, I mean, that, I mean, I got to say, that's more of a malicious thing than anything else.

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But that was, it was really good.

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It was, that is a great story.

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It was along the lines of, you know, it's making people, you know, really think.

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And if you want to really be a social activist, go right ahead.

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But, you know, they said, are you 21?

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No, I'm not.

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That's awesome.

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But, yeah, I wish I would have had a camera to get her reaction to her face.

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I mean, I'm pretty sure it probably would have burnt the film.

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Yeah, I have never seen that lady ever again since then.

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So, I don't know if she just quit going to that store or what.

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But, yeah.

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But, yeah, I thought that was pretty fun.

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I mean, was it just like a sort of a standalone liquor store with a mini mall or what was it?

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No, it's a convenience store.

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You know, they have gas and, you know, stuff.

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Oh, okay.

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It was just someone passing through and they said, oh, my God, he's not 21.

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We need to stop him.

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I mean, really, come on.

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I guess they just got back from church.

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Because it was Sunday, so I don't know.

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They're trying to do a good day for the day.

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I don't know.

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It kind of backfired on me.

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But, seriously, blocking someone in with your car?

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Holy cow.

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Where do you live exactly?

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I live down in Houston.

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Oh, okay.

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It's Texas.

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Never mind.

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But, I mean, if she would ask the question, are you over 21 or are you 21 or older, I would have said yes.

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But, no, she asked the specific question, are you 21, and no, I wasn't.

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Hey, I'm sorry.

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I got to say, she deserved what she got right there.

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I mean, that's what it is.

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I mean, that's even kind of like – that does classify underneath social hacking.

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It really does.

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But, I mean, that's even more of a – I mean, social hacking can be whatever exactly you want from it.

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I mean, you have – it's taking an everyday event like that and just really trying to change it around.

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And I think that kind of was a very good story, the fact that you benefited from – I guess you can't really say you benefited from it, but despite the –

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Yeah, you amused yourself from it.

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I mean, when you're talking about even messing with, like, events like that, I think a great example is the – I forget what year it was.

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It was the Harvard-Yale game.

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Now, for those who don't know, I assume everyone knows what Harvard is, and Yale is another Ivy League school, and they have a football game, which is a major event either up in Harvard or down in Yale every year.

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And one year was up in, you know, Harvard Field or whatever they called it.

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I don't think that's the actual name of this football stadium, but it's – and this – they're playing their game.

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They're playing their game, and, you know, someone calls a timeout, and they're doing it, and all of a sudden the smoke starts billowing from the middle of the field.

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And everyone starts looking out in the middle of the field like, you know, why is this – you know, why is the field smoking?

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And this big black balloon pops up, and it has the words MIT on it.

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And apparently what happened was the – you know, these MIT fraternity people – I think it was a bunch – I think it was a fraternity – went out there and made eight separate trips out to the football stadium the week before

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and set up this, you know, giant smoking balloon, and the line that I like about it was the Harvard president said,

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I actually have no idea who scored the most points, but MIT won the game.

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Oh, that is good. I like that.

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Oh, this is really good, and that's what it is. It's just taking a social situation and throwing a monkey wrench into it.

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So, yeah, we should go to different examples of –

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Well, yeah, I think we're kind of like delving right into that right now, so let's continue along to the thing.

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There's another one. There's one that Wiki mentioned, and for all you Walmart lovers, it's called World Mart.

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And basically that's an event where if you can try to get a bunch of people together, and you go into a Walmart on a busy day,

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like Black Friday would be good, and just walk around like a zombie for a couple hours and buy absolutely nothing and just leave the store.

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Brains, man.

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I mean, yeah, I mean, that's one of them. I mean, that's, you know, pretty simple.

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You just go there and just walk around and don't buy anything.

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But, I mean, they do – like, cultural jamming is more geared towards corporations, media, and stuff like that.

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It's to kind of upset their business or something like that, which I really don't condone.

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But, I mean, they make their business what they do.

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If you don't like there, don't shop there.

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Oh, I mean, going back to that whole, if you don't like it, don't shop there, one of the – one of another major –

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I guess you could call it cultural jamming is Buy Nothing Day.

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Yes, which Duel just –

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Which probably by the time you've heard of this, it's passed.

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But anyway, do you want to go with Buy Nothing Day this year or July?

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You can go. I know Duel just mentioned it, I don't know, like Tuesday or Wednesday of last week.

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He had mentioned it on the forum to remind people.

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Well, essentially, Buy Nothing Day is a day where you buy nothing, and they always seem to make it coincide with Black Friday.

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Now, do they have Black Friday out in other places other than the United States?

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Would you know? I have no idea.

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I don't have anybody to, like, purposely go out and do that.

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Well, for those of you who don't know what Black Friday is, I'm not sure if you actually have – I guess not because it's – Thanksgiving is a U.S. holiday only.

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Thanksgiving, which is a major holiday here in the U.S., is always on a Thursday, and the Friday afterwards is called Black Friday, and it's nothing depressing.

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Don't worry.

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It's the unofficial start of the Christmas holiday season, and all of these stores have these, you know, humongous sales, and they open their doors up at 5 a.m., and that's what it is.

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And, like, all these people go over there and try to – you know, you have, like, lines and people rioting if they don't get their, you know, Tickle Me Elmo or whatever.

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But what these people – it's – I believe it's, like, BuyNothingDay.com or something.

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I'm not sure.

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Do you know?

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I'm not sure exactly what it is.

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If you have any idea, just Google BuyNothingDay, and you'll find the website.

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And it's this group of people who strive to basically offset that by having a bunch of people who go out and buy nothing on that same day.

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So it's just kind of a statement of, you know, oh, we buy too much, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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I mean, I personally don't agree with it, but, you know, it's a perfect example of what this is.

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It's attempting to take a situation and change it to, you know, make people think about it.

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And, you know, BuyNothingDay, I think, accomplishes that very well when you have a bunch of people and you don't buy anything.

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Yeah, on Thanksgiving, I went to that same convenience store that I mentioned in that story to get cigarettes, and I figured, you know, what the hell, I'll pick up a newspaper.

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I really don't pick up newspapers that much.

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I read everything online, but I was looking, and I don't know.

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In other areas, but on Sundays, it's like the huge newspaper day where it's $1.75, and it's like four inches thick, this newspaper filled with advertisements.

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And I looked at the newspaper, and it was huge.

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It was like, you know, like three inches thick.

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And I was like, wow.

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I was like, how much is it?

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And he said, 50 cents.

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And I was like, really?

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I was kind of surprised that it was like nothing but advertisements everywhere, just coupons.

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And I was like, man, everyone was like, well, yeah.

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Yeah, like if you look at the stuff before, you look at those newspapers before, and they're filled with ads.

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And even like I think all this week I got like some type of ad from some major chain advertising all of their, you know, crazy show up at 4 a.m.

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and get a free puppy or whatever their promotions are.

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But, I mean, and I actually think that's another interesting example over here is you have the people who have Buy Nothing Day,

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but then you can also have the people who are culture jamming jamming who attempt to go out and actually buy a lot of stuff on that day to offset the people who don't buy anything.

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What is it, like kind of like protesting the protesters type?

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Yeah, I guess you could really call that.

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And it's – I actually started to refer to it as culture jamming.

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So like you're jamming the culture jammers.

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So how do you like that, huh?

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And, well, I guess an example of it is if you really want to like actually a good example that you can sit down and try to figure out.

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I mean there's a movie out there called Turk 182, and have you ever seen it?

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It's probably been 10 years since I've seen it.

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I mean it's been quite a while.

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It's a good movie.

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It's essentially – it's a lot of stuff.

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It's about a – essentially what it boils down to is a kid who protests a corrupt New York City government.

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I believe it was actually taped in the late 70s, mid-70s.

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Do you have any idea?

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Yeah, late 70s, early 80s would be my best guess.

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Yeah, and it's – and he does a lot of things where he crashes like various stage political events, and all the media is there taping the mayor and trying to show –

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and he's trying to show off this like – the one that pops to mind is he's trying to show off this new graffiti-proof subway car.

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And the kid just sandblasts the entire car and then does all the graffiti over it, and because he sandblasted, it sticks fine.

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So he shows off, and here's the brand-new graffiti car, and this car pulls into the station.

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And no one – the driver has no clue that he's actually covered in graffiti, and it's like, the mayor sucks.

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Turk wanted to.

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It's a funny movie, and it's interesting that – it provides a lot of examples of how the media can be used in – against itself and against – I'm not sure if I'm – I can't really articulate what I'm trying to say here.

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But anyway.

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Yeah, speaking of like using the media to kind of get it across, now this may or may not have happened in the late 90s, 99, 2000.

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But it was raining really bad down here one day, and sometimes when it rains so bad and the schools start flooding,

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if you get – watch the news early enough in the morning, they have a ticker of certain schools closed due to flooding.

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And, yeah, I mean, somebody may have called the media, their press, their news desk or whatever it's called,

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and said that they were an assistant for the superintendent and that the school district or – not the school district,

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but a particular high school would be closed for the day when it actually floods.

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And they actually pulled the announcement on there?

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Yeah, a few minutes later, you see on the ticker, you know, blank, blank high school, others due to flooding.

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Oh, man.

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Oh, actually, that's another example that I completely forgot of until you just mentioned it, was I'm not sure – this isn't actually happened down by you.

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I believe this happened in North Carolina where they – I mean, North Carolina, it was a major snowstorm.

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In North Carolina, in case, you know, for those of you not in the area, I don't think they get a lot of snow,

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or at least as far as I know because I don't live down there.

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But they have this major snowstorm.

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They have lots and lots of cancellations.

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And they have, like, the little ticker thing that you were talking about.

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And for those of you who actually have, like, areas and they have school cancellations or snow,

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you know what we're talking about, but for those of you who don't, it's just this little, you know,

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ticker down the bottom saying, you know, such and such a school district closed for the day

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or such and such a school district delayed, you know, 15 minutes so the kids can get to school or whatever.

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But this, you know, North Carolina station had this great idea of, oh, okay,

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well, we don't have a real system put into place for this, so let's go use our website.

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Go to this web URL, submit your announcement, and we'll put it on air for you because, you know, whatever.

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So people started submitting stuff where they had, like, you know, it was all kinds of strange puns.

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I believe there was, like, you know, Leet Haxor Daycare closed for the day.

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Yeah, I don't know whose idea it was for that where they'll just announce anything

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because that, like, failed from the get-go.

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Oh, that was just absolutely moronic.

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My personal favorite was Michael Jackson Daycare was delayed.

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Oh, man, that's wrong.

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It was just really bad.

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It was a bubble head doll.

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Yeah, I forget what it was.

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If you actually go online and, like, search, try to search this out.

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I'll try to find a link for it at some point.

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But there was people out there who had actually – he was taking pictures of them going on the air,

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and it was just – oh, man, it was hilarious.

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Like, you see all these people with, like – you see these little stills,

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and, like, the guy's in there doing his little weather stuff,

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and all of a sudden you see down the bottom, like, you know, like I said,

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like Leet Haxor Computer School.

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I forget what it says.

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And there was, like, literally, like, 10 or 20 of these that went out on the air that they approved.

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And I can just imagine all these ones they didn't approve.

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Yeah, I'm sure there's probably some profanity ones in there that they obviously just canceled out.

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Oh, yeah, there was stuff like that.

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But I think there was some very risque ones where if you actually said them out loud,

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they sounded like something.

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I really don't – this was – I think this was, like, two years ago at this point.

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I don't remember really.

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But it was – it's made us rounds on a bunch of various bulletin boards,

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and it was – I had a good fall over it.

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I have another one that is actually probably the best example.

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I mean, there's a site out there called Improv Everywhere, or Improveverywhere.com.

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And it's based out of New York.

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So y'all that are up there, y'all may want to get on the mailing list if y'all are interested in this sort of thing.

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But I know I sent you the link, you know, before, and they pull up some really, really, really cool stuff with some of their missions.

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Let me bring up two of my favorite ones.

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One is – was it the Mobius?

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I'm not sure how to pronounce that.

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And look up –

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Mobius.

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Okay.

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And look up more was the other one.

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But the Mobius one, basically what they did is they got six or seven people together, and basically they decided they were going to loot time.

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So they came up with this skit where, like, this couple would walk in, and they would get into an argument, and the girl would run out, and he would chase after her.

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And then that would cue –

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And this was actually all happening in the little Starbucks, right?

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Oh, yeah.

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I forgot to mention that.

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This is all inside a Starbucks.

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And then that would cue the next person – like, I think one guy, like, spilled his drink, and then another guy would cough or do something.

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And then that would cue another person.

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He'd walk in playing a song on this jukebox, and he would come walking across the Starbucks, playing a song and doing a little dance, and he'd walk completely across, you know, right through the front and go out to the other side entrance or side exit, whatever.

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And then that would prompt everything to loop over again.

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And this whole – like, this whole routine took – it took about five minutes for this whole routine to go down.

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And so after that, once the other guy left, then that couple would come back in.

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They would have the same argument, and basically they'd repeat this 12 times for, you know, a total of one hour.

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And people in the store, like, were really starting to flip out, like, oh, my God, you know, what's happening?

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You know, are we stuck in a time warp?

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And then other people inside the Starbucks started noticing different tidbits to see who was in on it.

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They were noticing something else that was repeating.

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And so everyone's all looking around to try to see who's in on it and what else is repeating.

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And, you know, some people are saying, oh, my God, is this going on on all the Starbucks?

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And – but, yeah, it was really cool.

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And it – and that's what it comes down to is making people try to be more aware of their surroundings.

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Another one, the same group that – I actually heard these people before you point them out to me was the – they broke into the – well, they didn't actually break into,

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but they went into the Times Square McDonald's, and they set up a bathroom attendant.

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Now, for those of you who don't know, a bathroom attendant is basically someone in fancy restaurants who makes sure, you know, all the toilet paper is stocked,

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and they hand you little mints, and this guy was the McDonald's bathroom attendant.

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And people would come in, and he'd, you know, offer him little moist towelettes, and they'd be – it was just – because you don't expect that certain thing at McDonald's.

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So, like, they were, like, really, like, wondering.

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And I think eventually a manager came in and said, excuse me, who are you?

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And he says, well, I'm the bathroom attendant.

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And he says, we're not supposed to have a bathroom attendant here.

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And he says, yes, you are.

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Didn't you get the memo from corporate?

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And he said, no.

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And he said, well, I'm sure there's been some mistake.

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Just, you know, call the corporate division, you know, and, you know, talk to somebody, and they'll know what it is.

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And apparently this was a major thing.

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Like, people did not know what the heck was going on.

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So they – you know, people at the corporate division were calling around trying to figure out everything that was, you know, who sent this bathroom attendant to.

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Yeah, and they actually let that guy stay there for, what, it was probably, what, close to an hour or so, I think?

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I don't know how long he stayed, but he stayed for a long period of time.

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And they were absolutely shocked that they got away with it for so long.

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He was courteous and nice, and he took photographs with people and everything.

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Yeah, that's really great.

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The other one that I wanted to mention is the Look Up More.

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And basically they got – I don't even know how many people, 60, 70 people together.

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And basically whenever they go to an event where they need a lot of people for this sort of thing, they'll kind of give you an idea of what to bring or whatever.

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And they said, basically, everybody wear all black and just show up, and we'll tell you what's going on from there, like, minutes before they do it.

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Oh, they're doing an emo thing?

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They're doing something emo?

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So they showed up.

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Life is pain.

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I'm going to stand alone.

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But, you know, everybody shows up, and everyone's wearing all black.

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And they always have, like, a meeting spot, and he kind of goes over what they're going to do, and if need be, they go through, like, a little, you know, test run type thing, you know, so everybody's on the same page.

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And so all these people showed up, and he's randomly giving out people numbers, you know, and these numbers were to go along with a certain window that – it was, like, three department stores or four department stores in this building, you know, one for each floor.

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And so – and then they had a pre-designed dance.

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So everybody would show up, and they would just show up and stand in this window and just look outside towards the street, you know, out in New York.

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And they would just stand there, and then there was a guy outside that would give them a cue, and, like, he raised his hand, and then everybody started doing a certain dance.

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Everybody was doing his own dance.

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And then they would sit there, and then they would all stop, and then they had design where everybody knew where to point, and everybody was pointing in the different direction.

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And, you know, and everybody ended up pointing to one specific window, and then one person would do a solo dance and just go nuts.

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And then, you know, when this is going on, everybody outside that is walking down the street is starting to gather.

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I mean, there's dozens, you know, maybe a hundred people outside to get in the wash, just wondering what's going on.

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And on the site, when you read about these missions, they actually give accounts from people that were involved in it, and they're saying how people inside the stores are flipping out.

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They don't know what's going on.

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Just people are looking out the windows and stuff like that.

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It's just absolute chaos.

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You know, it's organized chaos is kind of another way you could put it, I guess.

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Yeah.

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And so how long does this go on?

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I think there's four dances.

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It turns out one of the department stores kicked them out before they could get going, so there's like a gap of one floor that there's nobody at because they got kicked out.

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They were getting paranoid by a lot of people dressed in black just starting out a window for no apparent reason.

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They might have machine guns.

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Well, I mean, another good example of this is it's along the similar lines, but it's improv, but it's actually zug.com, Z-U-G.com.

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And my personal favorite is there's actually guys in Boston, so it's pretty interesting.

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One of the major things that he did was he convinced the Boston media that Michael Jackson was in town and was doing things.

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And I actually – I mean, what the funny part is is I actually remember going along, walking by the newspaper machines and seeing the sign like, you know, Jacko in town from the Boston Herald.

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And then I was like, oh, okay, Michael Jackson's in town, whatever.

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And then the next day was another headline, same like big font and the same picture of the guy was, was Jacko a fake?

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And I was like, what the hell is going on here?

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But I didn't actually put too much thought because it's the Boston Herald, and the Boston Herald is a New York Post Jr.

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Seriously, the Boston Herald is a New York Post Jr., and the Boston Globe, our other newspaper in town, is the New York Times Jr.

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It's kind of weird.

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And they've only recently started doing this.

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But anyway, so I – you know, like a couple months later, I start going up on this – I check out the website like I usually do every so often.

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And he posts new material, and one of the things was Michael Jackson hoax in Boston.

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I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, what?

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And I click on it, and this guy – I forget his name, who's in charge of it.

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He found out that he can get a credit card from his credit card company on his account with any name possible on the credit card.

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So he got a credit card on it with Michael Jackson.

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So he said, well, okay, let's go get a bunch of people and set up so that Michael Jackson shows up in the town.

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So he gets a few of his friends, and he actually is the – he pretended that – the guy who had the credit card who's in charge of it pretended that he was a Michael Jackson publicist.

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And he got these little business cards saying, you know, Zugg.com, so-and-so, you know, publicist Michael Jackson.

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And what they did is they went all around town all day doing all kinds of stuff, you know, with this whole Michael Jackson persona.

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And the two crowning achievements that I liked was he was going in one of our, you know, more trendy malls, and he threw out a bag of fake vomit to make it look like Michael Jackson threw up.

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I remember reading about this a while back, but yeah, that's definitely –

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And, you know, of course, you know, all the paparazzi were following him, and they got these pictures of Michael Jackson throwing up.

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And so they forwarded along, and people started – you know, shortly started showing up how, you know, Michael Jackson threw up in Boston.

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And they were staying in the Copley Plaza, which is one – I think it was the Copley Plaza, one of the more trendy hotels in Boston.

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And there was a, you know, benefit concert on for some charity who had all these stars and said – so he went up to them and said, oh, hi, I'm Michael Jackson, the publicist.

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We would really like to make a small donation if we could get a, you know, a balcony or something or like one of those little, like, side boxes.

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I forget what they call them, box seats.

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There you go.

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To, you know, view the concert.

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So they said, oh, sure.

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So they came in this box seat, and they stayed for, like, most of the concert.

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Didn't they have something like the – I'm sorry.

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Didn't they have something like ballroom or something like that that he went into, and he actually was talking with somebody famous or a senator or something like that?

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Actually, yes.

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I think that was afterwards.

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They actually – after the concert, they went into this little room with the celebrity, and they met the, you know, the headlining person for the charity.

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And, you know, it was just because, you know, hey, we're Michael Jackson.

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Michael Jackson wants to see it.

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Of course we need to tell him to do it.

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And I think their cover was blown, actually, by one of the paparazzi when they – he got – you know, he, like, you know, managed to sneak in someplace, and he came up to him and said, you're not Michael Jackson because no way in hell I would be able to get this close to Michael Jackson.

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Yeah, that's when they bolted or something, right?

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So they were sort of like –

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Yeah, they essentially just bolted out of the thing.

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Another good one from Zug was the – they put a contest up for Heinz Tomato Ketchup, made a website where you can make your own Heinz Tomato Ketchup bottle with your own custom label.

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So they had a contest on there for, you know, make your own – make a very inventive label that the system would accept.

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Like it wouldn't accept swear words and wouldn't accept such and such.

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And so he picked three of the more favorite ones that he liked, and he, you know, he made them – had them made, and then he went to a store and bought three Heinz Tomato Ketchup bottles.

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And then he tried to return the ones that were the fakes.

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And, like, he came up to him and said – I forget what it was.

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Oh, there we go.

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One of them had mayonnaise on it, and he said, excuse me, I think this mayonnaise is very, very bad.

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And the guy looked at it and said, well, it says Heinz to me.

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It says Heinz on it.

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It must be the thing, but it's mayonnaise because it says it right on the bottle.

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And he tried to return it, and so they gave him $2 back.

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Of course, like, the bottles cost, like, $15 to make, so whatever.

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And then, like – well, then half hour later, he tries to return a bottle that says, you know, Heinz, not tested on animals, but tastes great on them.

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And he says, excuse me, I'm a member of PETA, how do you pronounce it, PETA, PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, and this highly offends me.

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And they – like, they have to call the manager, and, you know, he says, I have the receipt.

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I want a refund.

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And they said, okay, okay, fine.

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And they give him another $2, and he comes back.

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And then he comes back another hour later, and he says, excuse me, this is kind of weird, but it says on this bottle, lather, rinse, repeat, so I thought it was shampoo.

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And he had, like, the ketchup on his head, and people were just, like, looking at him.

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Like, the line was, people were looking at me like I had massive head trauma.

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So they actually finally reviewed the videotape and said that, excuse me, sir, you bought three plastic bottles, not three glass bottles.

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Can you imagine the look on their face?

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Especially the second one.

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That was my favorite one.

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But, like, you know, the not tested on animals, but tasted good on them.

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Can you imagine the looks on their faces when they first –

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Oh, yeah, that's what it is.

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And, of course, that's just – it's just weird.

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And, actually, the funny part is I actually know what store he went to, which was very amusing.

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Oh, that's why you said that he's a local.

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Because we'll get, like –

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Mm-hmm, he's in Boston.

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Well, I mean, I don't go to that store anymore, but I do know the one that he went to.

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And, finally, I think my third favorite is he actually tested to what he could write on –

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he would use his credit card, and he would actually test on what he could write down on the bottom with actually it being accepted.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, the signature.

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Yeah, sorry.

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He would sign it, like, you know, incorrect signature, hand it back to the person, and it would get accepted, and they would charge him.

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Which, technically, they're not supposed to do, but if you go to the website, just, like, you have to see some of the stuff that he made on it.

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Like, he –

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For a signature.

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Yeah, he made – he said – yeah, he said he made a little, like, you know, landscape picture of a certain scene that he wanted to do.

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But my personal favorite was, you know, how when you go to restaurants and you have a little pre-made area for tip,

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he actually put in a negative amount and did the math out and see what they would charge him,

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and he actually signed on on the bottom, so it was sucked.

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Did it work, though?

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And – no, it didn't.

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They charged him the original amount, but – that wasn't awesome.

01:09:24.180 --> 01:09:25.360
I would be like, oh, geez.

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Run up a $500 bar tab and say, oh, the service sucked, negative $500.

01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:33.540
Oh, it's even better.

01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:34.040
That'd be great.

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$100 refund.

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There you go.

01:09:39.240 --> 01:09:42.060
But, like I said, Zug.com, Z-U-G.

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So, I – these are just, like – these are just, like, some examples you can use.

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And it's – it's basically – it's a lot of creativity.

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And you need to find out something that you would just like to mess with people with and just go for it.

01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:58.520
And – but you have to remember it can't hurt anybody.

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And it needs to – it can't be illegal, and it needs to be elegant in order for it to be considered a hack.

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So, those are the three rules.

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But once you get beyond that, go for it.

01:10:12.060 --> 01:10:13.060
Huh.

01:10:13.180 --> 01:10:14.440
Is there anything else you want to really cover?

01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:15.800
But I think that really kind of – you know.

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It gets kind of repetitive after a while – or not really repetitive, but, I mean, it's different situations where you can, you know, enact these things.

01:10:24.980 --> 01:10:33.340
And really, I mean, until you go out there and start doing it and getting people's reactions, I mean, because there's something that cannot be faked is somebody's initial reaction.

01:10:33.340 --> 01:10:43.280
I mean, even if they know it's coming, their initial reaction is by far – it's great when you see people's initial reaction to anything.

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Yeah.

01:10:45.280 --> 01:10:45.760
Yeah.

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There's actually another group down in Texas, and I believe it's one of the university groups.

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And I don't remember what they're called, though, so I can't really give you any ideas.

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But they have, like, the pita barbecue where it was people eating tasty animals.

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I mean, they didn't actually come up with the concept, but they actually took out on the quad and had a barbecue.

01:11:05.980 --> 01:11:14.820
What was that? I don't know if you remember the movie. It's an older one. Something, Politically Correct University, PCU.

01:11:18.020 --> 01:11:19.700
I've heard of that. I've actually watched it, though.

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There's this one group where, like, every week they have a different protest, that every week they change what they're protesting about.

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You know, it's a bunch of hippies and stuff like that.

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And these are other, like, you know, kind of rambunctious people that stay in this one house or dorm or whatever.

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They're protesting meat. You know, they're vegetarians, to speak, or something like that.

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So they show up, they break into the kitchen, and they grab trays and trays of, like, hamburger meat, you know, like mashed-up hamburger meat.

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And they begin throwing the meat upon the protest from, like, a clock tower or something like that.

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It makes everybody go ballistic.

01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.660
Again, that might be illegal because it's breaking that train, but...

01:12:02.660 --> 01:12:03.380
It's a movie. It's a movie, though.

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It's still pretty damn humorous.

01:12:06.140 --> 01:12:06.600
It's a movie.

01:12:07.860 --> 01:12:10.640
All right. Well, I think that kind of wraps it up for this episode.

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How are we doing on time?

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All right.

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I don't know. I think we're doing pretty well.

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I think I'm going to run and write about 1.30.

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Actually, I'm trying to keep the time low because I recently noticed that all the episodes I do turn into these are, like, one-hour-and-40-minute epics.

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So I'm trying to keep it low and make sure we're trying to stay under 1.30.

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I'm good because if we actually go over 95 minutes, it gets cuts off on the stream.

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So I don't want to leave anybody hanging out there.

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Announcements.

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No announcements, I think.

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I don't know.

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If you have announcements and you want to get on the announcements portion, just send us an email, and we'll give you all the announcements you could possibly want.

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If you want to have meetings or you're trying to start up a BinRev meeting, or, heck, even a 2600 meeting or a DEF CON meeting, just send us out there or whatever.

01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:03.000
Shouts.

01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:13.940
So I'll send shouts out to you, of course, and Stank, Droops, Verbal, BinRev, you know, pound BinRev on the IRC channel, irc.BinRev.net.

01:13:14.040 --> 01:13:17.360
Yeah, I mean, a lot of mine were going to be the same ones that you mentioned.

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Well, shouts to you for having me on my first time on BinRev Radio.

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And Stank, Droops.

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Oh, thanks.

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I'd also like to give a shout-out to Seal.

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Seal's doing good work with that documentary.

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If you have any ideas and stuff like that, I mean, he asked for, you know, if you have any input on stuff like that, for the documentary that he's made.

01:13:36.160 --> 01:13:37.660
Or not documentary, it's a movie.

01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:38.280
I'm sorry.

01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.240
But, yeah, I mean, give him some feedback.

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Let him know.

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All right.

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Now, listen, shouts out to also Savant, because Savant's cool.

01:13:49.900 --> 01:13:50.920
And we're starting up a project.

01:13:51.080 --> 01:13:51.520
Oh, yeah.

01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:57.340
You can give site of the week, because you were much more into what the name was.

01:13:57.360 --> 01:13:59.820
As we mentioned earlier, improveverywhere.com.

01:14:00.160 --> 01:14:02.960
And it's based out of New York, you know, New York City.

01:14:03.060 --> 01:14:05.360
So if you're in the area, check out the site.

01:14:06.380 --> 01:14:09.940
You can literally sit there for hours and read all the missions.

01:14:10.360 --> 01:14:15.020
And they have pictures from a lot of missions that are going on from inside.

01:14:15.140 --> 01:14:18.120
People that were there were sneaking pictures with a camera phone.

01:14:18.120 --> 01:14:19.260
And they got some video.

01:14:19.400 --> 01:14:21.360
And I think they just released some DVDs or something.

01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:23.120
But, yeah, definitely check it out.

01:14:23.180 --> 01:14:26.620
And, I mean, you'll be laughing for hours just reading some of the stuff they pull off.

01:14:28.040 --> 01:14:31.720
You'd probably like one of them, but I'll tell you about it after the show.

01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:33.920
You might find them pretty funny.

01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:37.360
All right.

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I think we should email.

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Email is radio at binrev.com.

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And our closing music tonight is the Super Mario Brothers Blues by, I believe it's a Netherland-type group.

01:14:49.460 --> 01:14:51.080
It's Nezkov.

01:14:52.360 --> 01:14:54.820
It was a good song, but I can't pronounce the damn name.

01:14:55.820 --> 01:14:56.660
Nezkovartitin.

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Who knows?

01:14:59.160 --> 01:14:59.500
Yeah.

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I'm American.

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And I can't speak.

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All right.

01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:05.800
So, as always, we will see you next week.

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Same hack time.

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Same hack time.

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We'll be right back.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.