WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:14.800 I had a friend who used to live in that building. 00:15.280 --> 00:17.540 You ever see, remember Roberto Salas, the photographer? 00:17.680 --> 00:17.800 Yeah. 00:18.420 --> 00:20.800 Last year, our team visited Cuba. 00:21.300 --> 00:24.560 It was the first time John Lee and I had been on the island together. 00:24.560 --> 00:29.760 For me, it was bittersweet, walking down the Malecon, Havana's famous waterfront. 00:30.380 --> 00:33.640 I'd lived in Cuba in the 90s when I was writing my book about Che Guevara. 00:34.600 --> 00:38.680 Havana's my favorite city in the world, and I hadn't been back in a long time. 00:39.240 --> 00:44.100 The last time I was here was shortly before Fidel died, and I'd missed it a great deal. 00:44.580 --> 00:50.060 The building that looks like a small castle, that was BRAC, the Bureau of Repression Against Communism. 00:50.440 --> 00:59.540 It was the torture center and documentation center for the anti-communists' secret services before the revolution. 01:00.000 --> 01:00.820 Yeah. 01:01.580 --> 01:04.720 We'd gone to Cuba to revisit the ground zero of Havana syndrome. 01:05.260 --> 01:11.920 Now that we had more information from the people who first reported these mysterious health incidents, we wanted to retrace their steps. 01:12.220 --> 01:13.000 So there's the embassy. 01:13.420 --> 01:13.960 Ah, yeah. 01:14.840 --> 01:16.480 Looks like it's had some work. 01:16.540 --> 01:17.120 It's looking good. 01:17.120 --> 01:21.460 I noticed there's still the American flag flying. 01:21.960 --> 01:25.420 Kate Osborne, the executive producer of this show, was with us. 01:25.760 --> 01:27.120 Well, I mean, it's still functioning. 01:27.240 --> 01:31.160 I just don't know what the capacity, you know, how many people are here still. 01:31.440 --> 01:33.180 It's just not clear to me. 01:33.180 --> 01:36.700 So the American embassy stands out. 01:37.480 --> 01:39.260 It's a very prominent building in Havana. 01:40.040 --> 01:45.340 You go along the Malecon, and you go right past the U.S. embassy. 01:46.380 --> 01:50.340 And you can imagine how much it drove Fidel up the wall. 01:51.300 --> 01:52.900 It's a monolith. 01:53.220 --> 01:54.340 It looks like... 01:54.340 --> 01:55.040 Monolith. 01:55.400 --> 01:58.160 Let's cut the tape right there, because I know where this is going. 01:58.560 --> 01:59.740 It's an ugly building. 01:59.740 --> 02:00.800 Oh, come on, man. 02:01.180 --> 02:03.780 You know, you're a great reporter, but you really have no taste whatsoever. 02:03.980 --> 02:06.280 And I do a better job of describing it anyway. 02:06.860 --> 02:10.740 The architects are the same ones that built the U.N. buildings in New York. 02:11.300 --> 02:17.540 It's a rectilinear building, very streamlined, very tidy, very modern. 02:18.140 --> 02:24.320 Amongst architects, it's regarded as a classic piece from the 1950s of a certain... 02:24.320 --> 02:25.560 I forget the name of the school. 02:25.840 --> 02:27.680 The point is, this is a building with a rich history. 02:27.680 --> 02:31.840 Even well after the Cuban Missile Crisis, during the George W. Bush years, 02:32.440 --> 02:34.940 tensions between the U.S. and Cuba got really bad. 02:35.460 --> 02:39.020 And as a sort of fuck you, Fidel would hold rallies right in front of this embassy. 02:39.120 --> 02:43.320 Yeah, really noisy ones, repudiating the United States. 02:44.340 --> 02:49.000 And they put billboards along the seafront there, too, calling the Americans terrorists. 02:49.000 --> 02:59.260 I was here in 2015 when John Kerry came and they opened the embassy for the first time in 54 years. 03:00.000 --> 03:01.840 It was the hottest goddamn day. 03:01.840 --> 03:05.440 And they packed in all these people right there, in that little garden right there. 03:06.140 --> 03:08.280 And it was weird. 03:08.560 --> 03:15.020 The Cubans had brought in all these civilians to basically say, yay, yay. 03:15.220 --> 03:17.260 For the first time, it wasn't like rent-a-mob against. 03:18.020 --> 03:19.380 It was rent-a-mob for. 03:19.380 --> 03:26.880 Despite the renewed friendship, there was an extended negotiation about how much stuff the Americans could bring into Cuba. 03:27.240 --> 03:31.380 And in part because of the embargo, it's pretty difficult to get all kinds of things in Cuba. 03:31.860 --> 03:35.020 Even if you can get things locally, it's a security issue. 03:35.020 --> 03:39.000 In the local market, if such a thing existed, they could go and buy it. 03:39.040 --> 03:49.620 But they were afraid to do that because they knew from their experience in Moscow, where the embassy was completely bugged during construction, 03:50.140 --> 03:59.520 that they couldn't trust that any purchases they made here, even for stones for the facade or furniture, 03:59.520 --> 04:09.480 all of it had to be shipped in from the United States because of concern that bugs would be placed in all of the, even in the stone. 04:10.420 --> 04:11.520 And so... 04:12.040 --> 04:18.380 It has to be remembered that this is a relationship marked by long-standing mistrust and with good reason. 04:26.320 --> 04:27.520 I'm John Lee Anderson. 04:27.520 --> 04:29.100 And I'm Adam Entis. 04:29.520 --> 04:33.420 From Vice World News, this is Havana Syndrome. 04:59.520 --> 05:10.560 I just wanted to point out where we are. 05:10.700 --> 05:19.440 So that's the monument to the USS Maine that was blown up in Havana Harbor, which caused the Spanish-American War. 05:20.100 --> 05:24.580 Walking around Havana with John Lee Anderson is, to say the least, an education. 05:24.580 --> 05:30.700 After the Spanish-American War, the Americans basically took over Cuba. 05:31.700 --> 05:37.260 And American corporations, Hershey's, Chocolate, and others, they bought up huge amounts of land. 05:37.940 --> 05:39.640 U.S.-Cuba history goes way back. 05:40.120 --> 05:41.580 A lot of it has to do with slavery. 05:41.580 --> 05:50.620 But in the late 19th century, the U.S. inserted itself into the Cuban fight for independence against colonial Spain and took over the island as its colonial administrator. 05:50.620 --> 05:56.040 By the time the revolution happened, the Americans owned the railroads, they had the electricity, they owned everything. 05:56.300 --> 05:58.140 And then there were a few rich Cubans with them. 05:59.220 --> 06:02.580 One very, very famous, the king of sugar, Julio Lobo. 06:02.580 --> 06:04.700 He owned 14 different sugar mills. 06:05.380 --> 06:13.260 He had a swimming pool built for Esther Williams, the synchronized swimming movie star, just because he flew her down one weekend. 06:13.400 --> 06:14.120 It's still there. 06:15.080 --> 06:16.820 They tried to get him to stay and join the revolution. 06:17.340 --> 06:22.920 The U.S. also turned a blind eye to corruption in Cuba, which only exacerbated the country's stark inequalities. 06:22.920 --> 06:27.740 And, of course, there's the Nacional, which was built in 1930. 06:27.880 --> 06:33.060 It was like the showpiece for the hotels in Cuba, and right next to it, the Capri. 06:33.120 --> 06:35.020 And this was the kind of moth quadrant, right? 06:35.340 --> 06:39.700 Mayor Lansky, George Raft, and then the Riviera down there. 06:40.380 --> 06:42.120 Americans were coming here in the 30s. 06:42.980 --> 06:45.920 I mean, Hemingway was living here, right, from 1930 on. 06:46.400 --> 06:50.860 It also didn't help that American citizens started coming to Havana in droves. 06:50.860 --> 06:53.540 When that really took off was during Prohibition. 06:55.220 --> 07:02.100 As I came into the beautiful harbor of Havana, my one thought was to land and go where all good Americans go when they go to Cuba. 07:02.480 --> 07:03.160 Can you guess where? 07:03.740 --> 07:07.700 Sloppy Joes, the mecca where tourists seek courage and inspiration. 07:11.160 --> 07:13.480 So Americans came down here to drink. 07:14.400 --> 07:18.900 There were bars everywhere that just catered to Americans. 07:18.900 --> 07:20.400 There were dirty weekenders. 07:20.400 --> 07:24.020 Prostitution, gambling, everything. 07:24.940 --> 07:28.460 American tourists basically treated the city like an amusement park. 07:28.960 --> 07:33.840 I think planes ran between here and Miami every half an hour, and there was more than one airline. 07:34.080 --> 07:37.840 And there was also ferries between here and Key West that ran. 07:38.500 --> 07:42.840 By the 1950s, Cuba's ruled by a dictator named Fulgencio Batista, 07:43.060 --> 07:49.100 whose brutality the U.S. government ignores because he's willing to protect American business interests on the island. 07:49.100 --> 07:53.160 But then, in 1959... 07:53.160 --> 07:57.160 From his stronghold in the wild Sierra Maestria Mountains... 07:57.160 --> 08:03.760 Something happens to completely change the course of history on the island, and in the Western Hemisphere. 08:04.300 --> 08:05.660 The Cuban Revolution. 08:05.660 --> 08:11.480 Cuba's Fidel Castro emerged triumphant after two years of guerrilla warfare against the Batista regime. 08:12.040 --> 08:23.900 A group of young idealists who'd spent several years waging a guerrilla war from the Cuban countryside managed to overtake Batista's forces and seize power in a stunning coup on New Year's Day, 1959. 08:23.900 --> 08:28.440 Now Batista has fled. A new leader is on the scene. Fidel Castro. 08:29.220 --> 08:35.860 These guerrillas are, of course, led by Fidel Castro, his brother Raul, and an Argentine doctor friend named Che Guevara. 08:36.060 --> 08:40.780 An Argentine with a Botticelli angel's face and a scholar of Marx. 08:40.780 --> 08:48.860 This is all happening as U.S. officials are in the midst of a global war against the supposed threat of communism. 08:49.720 --> 08:58.040 And this is right after the witch hunts of McCarthyism, where people inside the U.S. could be blacklisted if they were even suspected of sympathizing with communists. 08:58.040 --> 09:11.040 And so when a bunch of leftist revolutionaries take control of a country just 90 miles off the coast of Florida and immediately start snuggling up to the Soviet Union, it's like the Americans' worst fear coming true. 09:11.720 --> 09:18.400 In January 1961, U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower breaks off all diplomatic relations with Cuba. 09:18.840 --> 09:26.460 There is a limit to what the United States in self-respect can endure. That limit has now been reached. 09:26.460 --> 09:33.480 So the U.S. is pulling its people off the island, which is basically the final adios y hasta nunca. 09:34.840 --> 09:37.840 The assault has begun on the dictatorship of Fidel Castro. 09:38.540 --> 09:41.760 Cuban army pilots open the first phase of organized revolt. 09:41.980 --> 09:48.440 A few months later, President Kennedy deploys CIA-trained anti-Castro Cubans in the Bay of Pigs invasion. 09:48.740 --> 09:54.780 With the Castro government completely victorious over the invading rebels, there is despair and confusion among the relatives. 09:54.780 --> 10:02.100 Which, of course, was a massive failure, though it marks the relationship between the U.S. and Cuba to this day. 10:02.100 --> 10:09.980 BATISTA 10:09.980 --> 10:10.300 BATISTA 10:10.300 --> 10:24.300 Yeah, that's the Havana Yard Club, and that's the one that they wouldn't let BATISTA join because he had to have a lot of love. 10:24.300 --> 10:30.340 Everywhere we visited in Havana had history, political or personal. 10:30.760 --> 10:38.340 Even though we were in Cuba working as journalists following the Havana Syndrome story, we kept coming across John Lee's old stomping grounds. 10:39.120 --> 10:40.720 How long did you live in Havana again? 10:40.720 --> 10:46.640 I lived here for three years with my family, from 93 to 95, while I was researching and writing my Che book. 10:47.160 --> 10:55.920 It was a really hard time for Cuba then, but we had little kids, and in some ways, it was one of those worst of times, best of times. 10:55.920 --> 10:58.800 So, this is the entrance to Nautico, my old neighborhood. 10:59.800 --> 11:06.620 It was a closed neighborhood, and it was one of the last kind of middle-class suburbs built just before the Revolution. 11:08.200 --> 11:11.720 There was a Russian woman here, she sold smuggled goods. 11:12.980 --> 11:13.740 My kids went here. 11:15.100 --> 11:16.200 It's a terrible school. 11:17.560 --> 11:18.500 There's my house. 11:19.580 --> 11:19.920 Amazing. 11:19.920 --> 11:20.600 There's my house. 11:20.600 --> 11:23.740 This is my street. 11:23.920 --> 11:25.240 They changed everything. 11:28.440 --> 11:29.600 They changed the house. 11:34.600 --> 11:37.320 You're like barely a block from the ocean. 11:37.520 --> 11:37.720 Yeah. 11:42.720 --> 11:44.060 94, summer of 94. 11:45.700 --> 11:47.240 Things were really bad then. 11:47.760 --> 11:50.100 The Soviet Union had fallen and abandoned the island. 11:50.100 --> 11:52.800 And 30 years of subsidies had ended overnight. 11:53.580 --> 11:54.860 And so, Cuba was on its own. 11:55.340 --> 11:57.800 The country was in a really deep economic crisis. 11:58.500 --> 12:01.240 They called this the special period in time of peace. 12:02.380 --> 12:08.320 Things got so bad that there was serious food shortages, and the average Cuban lost an entire meal per day. 12:09.060 --> 12:13.780 The special period lasted through much of the 90s, but things were at their worst when we were there. 12:13.780 --> 12:25.060 And in August of 94, there were mass protests in Havana, almost insurrectional, where people were expressing their anger in a way they hadn't done in the entire history of the Cuban Revolution. 12:25.060 --> 12:33.160 After the rioting on the Malikon, three weeks, Fidel said anybody who wanted could go, in a fury. 12:36.540 --> 12:37.800 I mean, it was shocking. 12:38.280 --> 12:42.800 Thousands of people building homemade rafts from whatever they could find to set sail towards the U.S. 12:42.800 --> 12:50.220 The massive exodus that took place that summer was known as the Bolsero's crisis, or the Cuban rafters crisis. 12:50.220 --> 12:54.220 I'll never forget coming back one day. 12:54.740 --> 12:59.120 I watched as this truckload turned out to be like two families, about 23 people. 12:59.820 --> 13:09.940 They unloaded a raft here, a pretty precarious raft, homemade, you know, oil drums and plywood. 13:10.940 --> 13:16.080 And they got on it, and the neighborhood here, the women and the kids, everybody, my kids, came, 13:16.080 --> 13:19.740 and you could see lightning on the far horizon, and dusk was coming. 13:20.440 --> 13:26.140 And they were begging these families not to go, and they pushed off. 13:26.980 --> 13:34.060 And just as they pushed off, they may have been like 10 feet out, a woman and a child jumped into the water. 13:35.280 --> 13:38.060 And they came ashore, and they were just terrified and shaking. 13:39.080 --> 13:40.480 It was terrible to watch. 13:40.880 --> 13:42.740 My kids, you know, they all internalized this stuff. 13:42.740 --> 13:46.700 And I found my daughter Rosie, the middle one, drawing a picture. 13:47.060 --> 13:51.140 And I saw this kind of, like, square and this kind of, like, pod on top. 13:52.060 --> 13:54.000 And I asked her, what are you drawing? 13:54.220 --> 13:55.640 She said, that's it. 13:56.880 --> 13:59.540 It was this idea of, like, people on a raft. 14:00.640 --> 14:02.260 It really shook me, you know. 14:02.260 --> 14:27.120 In the late 90s, the government was thrown a lifeline when Venezuela's strongman president, Hugo Chavez, came on the scene. 14:27.120 --> 14:30.520 But in 2013, Chavez dies. 14:31.140 --> 14:35.900 Venezuela's in a crisis, and the Cuban government once again is left in a bind. 14:36.540 --> 14:45.980 And this is when a number of suitors show up at Cuba's door offering to help, including the usual suspects, Russia, China, and the U.S. 14:45.980 --> 14:49.300 Everyone's looking to increase their influence on the island. 14:50.180 --> 14:51.980 This is the newer end of Havana. 14:52.560 --> 15:02.020 And as the crow flies, we're probably less than maybe a third of a mile from Fidel's well-guarded residence. 15:02.280 --> 15:09.280 After visiting John Lee's old house, we hopped in a car and headed to a nondescript residential street about a half a mile away. 15:09.280 --> 15:21.080 Typically, this is where a lot of foreigners have been given, granted residences through one of the state agencies that provides housing for diplomats and foreigners. 15:21.080 --> 15:23.780 This street is key to the Havana syndrome story. 15:24.380 --> 15:28.340 At the beginning of the block is a multi-story cement building. 15:29.960 --> 15:32.820 So this is the 113 is what we're looking for. 15:32.860 --> 15:33.560 It's going to be on the left. 15:34.840 --> 15:36.420 You want to walk up to the end and then come back? 15:36.420 --> 15:38.700 Just to see you get a sense of the... 15:38.700 --> 15:42.180 Let's do this fairly quickly because there's some fairly official-looking guys here. 15:42.880 --> 15:43.060 Okay? 15:43.460 --> 15:43.640 Yeah. 15:46.940 --> 15:49.660 And it took us a while, but finally we spotted it. 15:49.920 --> 15:51.820 The home of Tony, patient zero. 15:52.020 --> 15:54.060 This is a kind of typical house. 15:55.200 --> 15:56.880 Not dissimilar to the one I lived in. 15:56.960 --> 15:59.560 It's very 60s, kind of low-level... 15:59.560 --> 16:04.940 Now that I'd met Tony and heard his story, I wanted to retrace his steps to see where he lived 16:04.940 --> 16:09.120 and looked for any obvious signs of Cuban intelligence in the area. 16:16.120 --> 16:21.580 It's approximately 4.30 in the afternoon, which is around the time that we're here now. 16:21.980 --> 16:23.740 It's the golden hour, as they say. 16:24.440 --> 16:30.520 And he hears a cacophony of dogs barking, howling, which he thought was very odd. 16:30.520 --> 16:35.260 And then a few seconds later, he feels this intense pressure in his head. 16:35.480 --> 16:38.420 The pressure started in the head, and then the discomfort in the ear. 16:39.020 --> 16:43.240 And hears the sound, which it feels like his head is in a vice. 16:43.900 --> 16:45.320 It got really uncomfortable. 16:45.740 --> 16:48.460 It started very, very loud, like ear-piercingly loud. 16:48.840 --> 16:55.380 He thinks it's an escalation in the harassment that he had been subjected to in a very different kind of way, 16:55.380 --> 16:59.920 like his colleague, who had his car tires deflated. 17:01.620 --> 17:07.440 Remember Tony told us he thought this was just harassment, which spies deal with all the time. 17:07.860 --> 17:11.640 But he thought this was a new, very different form of harassment. 17:12.220 --> 17:16.360 After talking to a lot of my sources, what I learned before coming to Havana 17:16.360 --> 17:19.080 is that in the weeks leading up to Tony's incident, 17:19.680 --> 17:23.860 that normal spy-versus-spy harassment appeared to be ratcheting up. 17:23.860 --> 17:31.740 He arrived in Havana in mid-October, and from the moment he arrives, they are all over him. 17:32.480 --> 17:37.360 And this increased harassment coincided with the arrival of a new CIA station chief in Havana, 17:37.860 --> 17:40.600 though I can't confirm that the two events are related. 17:41.160 --> 17:44.980 Recently what I found out was that around the summer of 2016, 17:44.980 --> 17:49.140 there was an increase in the harassment, 17:49.140 --> 17:55.640 and it became more hostile, if you will, less innocuous. 17:56.540 --> 18:00.020 Rather than it just being evidence of somebody coming into your home, 18:00.640 --> 18:03.320 it became more abusive, more threatening. 18:03.320 --> 18:07.700 An embassy employee would come home. 18:08.300 --> 18:12.440 Often their houses are surrounded by a fence, a wall, 18:12.920 --> 18:14.660 so it's like a compound sort of arrangement. 18:15.320 --> 18:17.740 And when they enter the compound, in the lawn, 18:18.260 --> 18:24.620 they found knives, which have been kind of stabbed into the earth up to the hilt. 18:24.620 --> 18:27.560 Now again, this is sort of strange, right? 18:27.620 --> 18:31.420 Like maybe some kid, neighborhood kid, decided to pull a prank. 18:32.200 --> 18:33.980 They can never really know for sure, 18:34.480 --> 18:39.120 but obviously people who are trained in this believed that this was the Cubans sending a message. 18:39.120 --> 18:49.040 At one point, the person had a dog, and the dog was suddenly taken sick. 18:49.540 --> 18:51.260 They rushed the dog to a veterinarian, 18:52.040 --> 18:56.660 and the veterinarian found puncture marks from needles in the dog. 18:57.100 --> 19:01.660 The dog was in inches of dying from whatever was injected, 19:01.940 --> 19:04.100 and had to be medevaced back to Florida, 19:04.240 --> 19:06.500 and back to family members who were still in the United States. 19:09.120 --> 19:11.000 And then there were the scorpions. 19:11.820 --> 19:13.880 Sometimes, you know, they would come home, 19:13.940 --> 19:15.440 and this is something they saw in 2016, 19:16.140 --> 19:17.980 both diplomats and spies would come home, 19:18.540 --> 19:22.740 and they would find scorpions in their apartment or in their house. 19:23.480 --> 19:28.100 Sometimes the scorpions would have been partially stepped on, 19:28.440 --> 19:32.740 so that some of their limbs were broken and couldn't be moved, 19:32.740 --> 19:36.300 and the result was that the scorpions would go in circles. 19:39.120 --> 19:42.140 The wife of someone who worked at the embassy was at home, 19:42.400 --> 19:46.280 putting on her pajamas, when of all things, a scorpion fell out. 19:47.300 --> 19:50.680 When she looked inside the pajamas, she found a piece of tape. 19:51.440 --> 19:56.720 The suspicion was that Cuban intelligence had used the tape to keep the scorpion in place 19:56.720 --> 20:00.640 until she put the outfit on, but they couldn't know for sure. 20:00.640 --> 20:04.940 And the perceived harassment only keeps escalating. 20:05.380 --> 20:08.640 Before Tony arrives in Havana, one of his embassy colleagues, 20:08.640 --> 20:12.500 who I've learned was also in the CIA, has his cover blown. 20:13.000 --> 20:15.540 And immediately, the harassment starts. 20:16.280 --> 20:18.640 He wakes up to find his tires are flat. 20:19.420 --> 20:22.000 Later, someone writes a gay slur on his car. 20:22.640 --> 20:25.120 We asked the Cuban government for comment on this, 20:25.540 --> 20:26.800 but they didn't respond. 20:26.800 --> 20:36.580 Tony, of course, was aware of the uptick in harassment aimed at his colleagues 20:36.580 --> 20:38.520 around the end of 2016. 20:39.000 --> 20:41.580 And some stuff was happening to him, too. 20:42.440 --> 20:43.920 There was the constant surveillance. 20:44.800 --> 20:48.340 And he kept coming out to his car to find his windshield wiper was gone, 20:48.780 --> 20:51.860 even after he replaced it, which was hard to do in Havana. 20:51.860 --> 20:57.080 Then one day, he came home to find a recently cleaned shirt crumpled on the floor of his bedroom. 20:57.840 --> 20:59.860 A pungent smell of urine filled the room. 21:00.740 --> 21:04.100 Had someone or something perhaps peed on it? 21:04.480 --> 21:08.740 He thought maybe this was payback for having slipped his Cuban surveillance the day before. 21:09.180 --> 21:12.440 But when they peed on my clothes and I came home and they were balled up in the corner, 21:12.820 --> 21:14.160 I laughed hysterically. 21:14.280 --> 21:15.340 Like, it made me happy. 21:15.480 --> 21:17.160 They knew that I was being good at my job. 21:17.160 --> 21:20.600 So at first, he felt pretty sure that he knew what was going on 21:20.600 --> 21:23.360 when he heard that strange noise in his house. 21:24.480 --> 21:28.820 But this harassment is different because it's actually hurting him. 21:29.380 --> 21:32.180 I think it must be that one over there is the one he's referring to. 21:32.560 --> 21:35.740 That's the one that he suspected in this building on our right. 21:35.980 --> 21:39.720 At first, Tony suspects that the sound is coming from a building nearby. 21:40.440 --> 21:44.340 It's a building he believes Cuban intelligence is using to watch him. 21:44.340 --> 21:51.620 So the tall building, the five, six-story building, is about 200 feet away from where we're standing. 21:52.520 --> 21:56.260 The neighborhood is filled with mostly low-slung houses like Tony's. 21:56.460 --> 21:59.140 But this tall building just dominates the street. 21:59.640 --> 22:01.800 He can't come or go without passing it. 22:02.220 --> 22:04.180 So he was on the bottom floor. 22:04.980 --> 22:09.980 So it was like a two-bedroom, like an office and a kitchen and a bathroom. 22:09.980 --> 22:13.540 And then behind that gate was where he would keep his car. 22:14.360 --> 22:18.900 And every time he left the gate, he'd see, as he was coming out past this building, 22:19.200 --> 22:23.280 there'd be this flurry of activity that he believed was related to following him. 22:23.920 --> 22:27.780 He believes that his tail, you know, the people that would follow him around, 22:28.380 --> 22:31.760 that they had their base of operations, their listening post, as they call it, 22:31.760 --> 22:33.740 was in that multi-story building. 22:35.180 --> 22:36.920 And they would swarm when he left. 22:38.380 --> 22:41.620 And if they were going to break into his house to check on the bugs, 22:41.860 --> 22:43.900 that's when they would do it, when they saw that he left. 22:48.920 --> 22:52.600 But Tony doesn't know for sure that's where the sound is coming from. 22:53.160 --> 22:56.640 He spends the night after the first incident on his living room couch. 22:56.640 --> 23:01.380 The next day, he goes into the embassy to report what happened to him, 23:01.920 --> 23:04.400 to see if he really has been injured by this thing. 23:05.240 --> 23:07.700 At this point, he's worried he might have had a stroke. 23:08.260 --> 23:12.460 And he immediately goes to see the medical officer in the embassy, 23:13.180 --> 23:16.880 who had previously actually lived in his house before he arrived. 23:17.760 --> 23:21.960 And the embassy medical officer says something that just stops him in his tracks. 23:22.340 --> 23:25.440 That honestly stopped us in our tracks when he told us. 23:25.440 --> 23:29.300 He tells him what happened, and he describes the noise. 23:30.060 --> 23:32.860 And the medical officer said he had heard a similar sound. 23:34.920 --> 23:36.760 Which was a huge revelation for us. 23:37.320 --> 23:40.740 For years, we'd thought that he, Tony, was the first victim. 23:41.420 --> 23:45.180 Since 2018, I had thought of Tony as patient zero. 23:47.320 --> 23:49.580 Of course, we couldn't know for sure. 23:50.660 --> 23:55.080 He was the first person who came forward to report that he was ill to the CIA. 23:55.440 --> 23:59.660 So it was just kind of mind-blowing to have him say point-blank, 24:00.020 --> 24:04.300 there were people before me, this medical officer, possibly others too. 24:05.800 --> 24:10.360 When Tony and the medical officer realize they've both had similar experiences, 24:11.240 --> 24:15.200 Tony takes the information to the regional security officer, or RSO, 24:15.200 --> 24:19.780 who is in charge of keeping track of security incidents involving embassy personnel. 24:20.780 --> 24:24.060 And that guy says he had a similar experience as well. 24:24.980 --> 24:27.320 This is obviously a huge shock for all of them. 24:27.960 --> 24:32.740 And it's at this point that Tony feels they have to talk to the ambassador directly. 24:32.740 --> 24:35.600 They go to De Laurentiis' office. 24:36.220 --> 24:40.700 As in Ambassador Jeffrey De Laurentiis, Tony and the regional security officer 24:40.700 --> 24:43.460 huddle in one of the embassy's secret skiffs. 24:43.700 --> 24:47.260 Knowing that it's the only place in the embassy that's truly secure, they believe. 24:48.920 --> 24:53.860 A sensitive compartmented information facility, also known as a skiff. 24:54.540 --> 24:58.220 Every U.S. embassy in the world has at least one of these, if not several. 24:58.220 --> 25:00.680 And that's also true in the case of Havana. 25:01.580 --> 25:06.540 He tells De Laurentiis about the escalation in harassment that had been going on for months. 25:06.800 --> 25:11.760 And De Laurentiis, he was sort of taken aback and didn't realize how bad it had gotten. 25:12.780 --> 25:18.060 He asks Patient Zero to write a report and to send the report in. 25:18.740 --> 25:22.000 And that's sent in on December 30th, 2016. 25:23.940 --> 25:27.460 As we have mentioned before, at the ambassador's request, 25:27.460 --> 25:32.240 Tony writes a report about what he'd experienced and sends it to the CIA. 25:33.900 --> 25:38.020 But then, when he gets home from work that day, he hears it again. 25:38.980 --> 25:43.720 This is now December 30th, at the exact same time, 4.30 in the afternoon. 25:43.940 --> 25:47.660 This time, he's decided that he's going to record what he heard. 25:47.660 --> 25:53.420 So he's in his house in the same place, and he uses his phone to record the sound. 25:53.420 --> 26:01.220 And he sends the audio file to his brother, who plays it for himself and his wife. 26:01.580 --> 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29:10.380 in the lead-up to the first reported incident 29:10.380 --> 29:11.300 of Havana syndrome. 29:11.700 --> 29:14.300 But my question has always been the timing. 29:14.840 --> 29:16.440 I mean, this is just two years 29:16.440 --> 29:17.900 since relations were restored. 29:18.480 --> 29:20.340 The Cuban government had put so much energy 29:20.340 --> 29:21.820 into reopening the embassies 29:21.820 --> 29:23.180 and building these relationships. 29:23.880 --> 29:25.820 But then in the fall of 2016, 29:26.520 --> 29:28.660 months after that new station chief arrives, 29:29.220 --> 29:31.440 two earth-shaking events change everything. 29:31.440 --> 29:34.800 The first is that Donald Trump is elected president, 29:35.440 --> 29:36.900 who as a candidate had threatened 29:36.900 --> 29:39.220 to tear up Obama's agreement with the Cubans. 29:39.660 --> 29:42.340 And then a few weeks later, Fidel Castro dies. 29:43.120 --> 29:44.380 Fidel had been ill for years 29:44.380 --> 29:45.980 and had already stepped back from power. 29:46.360 --> 29:49.460 But his death as the ultimate revolutionary figurehead 29:49.460 --> 29:51.960 nonetheless had a huge symbolic impact. 29:52.440 --> 29:54.860 And I've wondered if this moment of vulnerability 29:54.860 --> 29:58.040 may have made some people within the Cuban government 29:58.040 --> 30:01.160 so nervous that perhaps someone decided 30:01.160 --> 30:03.640 that it was time to pump the brakes, shall we say, 30:03.980 --> 30:05.440 on making nice with the Americans. 30:05.440 --> 30:19.900 We're going to go to Tina's. 30:21.900 --> 30:23.720 So while we were down here, 30:24.000 --> 30:26.380 I also wanted to check out Tina Onifer's house. 30:27.080 --> 30:29.900 She's the diplomat who reported an incident in her kitchen 30:29.900 --> 30:33.080 a few months after Tony, in March 2017. 30:33.080 --> 30:36.360 She lived maybe a mile or two from Tony's house. 30:39.420 --> 30:41.820 It's a beautiful neighborhood, really exclusive. 30:42.300 --> 30:44.280 And you can see that as you drive down its streets. 30:44.820 --> 30:46.080 The houses are big and beautiful, 30:46.380 --> 30:47.660 and the lawns are well manicured. 30:49.320 --> 30:53.860 Yeah, just go slow and just like basically... 30:53.860 --> 30:55.280 No, he doesn't have to pause even. 30:56.100 --> 30:57.900 As soon as we turn onto Tina's block, 30:58.100 --> 30:59.560 we notice people watching us. 31:00.180 --> 31:01.920 Well, here we have the security around here. 31:01.920 --> 31:04.100 We may not be able to do this outside 31:04.100 --> 31:06.580 without attracting attention. 31:08.400 --> 31:10.200 There's the security guy right in front of us. 31:10.840 --> 31:13.560 As you can hear, as we drive by Tina's house, 31:13.660 --> 31:16.040 we also start picking up a lot of interference. 31:16.580 --> 31:19.500 I'm no expert, but it could have been a cell phone jammer. 31:20.260 --> 31:22.860 Either way, we were able to find Tina's house. 31:22.860 --> 31:25.520 Oh, it's like a little hacienda almost. 31:25.700 --> 31:27.200 It looks really run down, right? 31:27.380 --> 31:28.980 There's the side over there. 31:30.980 --> 31:32.220 Where her kitchen window. 31:33.360 --> 31:35.480 Her house was a lot bigger than Tony's, 31:35.840 --> 31:36.780 but in worse shape. 31:37.320 --> 31:38.940 Plants were overtaking the property. 31:39.400 --> 31:40.960 It looked as though nobody had moved in 31:40.960 --> 31:43.120 after Tina's family left in 2017. 31:43.120 --> 31:45.240 It looks, yeah, completely abandoned 31:45.240 --> 31:46.880 and completely run down. 31:47.340 --> 31:48.780 You can see the window to the side, 31:48.860 --> 31:51.320 which I think is the one that she was standing at 31:51.320 --> 31:52.200 when this happened, 31:52.480 --> 31:56.080 because it's facing an old interior ministry. 31:56.760 --> 31:57.820 Which was the building? 31:57.940 --> 31:58.260 The house. 31:58.720 --> 32:02.240 There was a security guard right in front of that house. 32:02.620 --> 32:03.560 If we went to the house. 32:03.560 --> 32:05.100 Okay, we cannot stop here. 32:05.100 --> 32:05.860 Yeah, understood. 32:06.400 --> 32:09.840 We're in a high security area. 32:09.840 --> 32:12.460 Yeah, so just take that really good look 32:12.460 --> 32:13.600 and look at the front of that house. 32:19.700 --> 32:22.500 Okay, so what just happened? 32:23.160 --> 32:28.280 We drove into Tina's neighborhood onto a street, 32:29.040 --> 32:31.580 which is in a highly secure area. 32:31.580 --> 32:35.560 And the driver was jumpy before we went in 32:35.560 --> 32:37.480 because he said, you know, I can't stop here. 32:37.560 --> 32:38.500 There's nowhere I can stop. 32:38.500 --> 32:40.820 In fact, the house right next door 32:40.820 --> 32:43.700 was the Ministry of Interior facility 32:43.700 --> 32:46.040 and they had security people outside 32:46.040 --> 32:47.600 and they very much noticed us. 32:48.420 --> 32:49.780 We were followed by a car. 32:50.780 --> 32:52.540 It followed us at a discreet distance. 32:53.180 --> 32:54.700 Just make sure we were out of the neighborhood. 32:55.660 --> 32:58.320 And when we turned around and went back, 32:59.060 --> 33:00.520 I think we picked up a tail 33:00.520 --> 33:02.560 because they were wondering what the hell we're doing. 33:02.780 --> 33:05.140 Because nobody does that, basically. 33:05.140 --> 33:09.380 I've always wondered why Tina. 33:09.780 --> 33:10.720 She's not a spy. 33:11.120 --> 33:12.540 She's a run-of-the-mill diplomat. 33:13.000 --> 33:15.460 If this was a situation where Cuban intelligence 33:15.460 --> 33:17.080 was targeting CIA officers 33:17.080 --> 33:20.860 and the Havana syndrome is somehow part of the harassment campaign, 33:21.300 --> 33:22.420 why would they go after Tina? 33:22.420 --> 33:24.640 But now that we're at her house, 33:24.840 --> 33:25.840 I remember something. 33:26.520 --> 33:29.000 This was actually Tina's fourth home in Havana. 33:29.000 --> 33:31.820 The previous ones were either temporary housing 33:31.820 --> 33:33.420 or had structural issues. 33:34.060 --> 33:36.880 This house had previously been assigned to more senior people. 33:37.680 --> 33:40.140 I had even heard rumors that the previous occupant 33:40.140 --> 33:41.900 was a senior CIA officer. 33:42.460 --> 33:44.160 But I haven't been able to verify that. 33:44.700 --> 33:46.640 Tina, you know, thought, 33:46.860 --> 33:47.780 how lucky am I? 33:48.000 --> 33:48.760 You know, look at this. 33:48.900 --> 33:51.220 She's got the two kids and the husband and the dog. 33:51.340 --> 33:53.460 And, you know, this was sort of a dream come true 33:53.460 --> 33:54.760 to be in this house in this neighborhood. 33:55.440 --> 33:57.060 And so there might have been some confusion 33:57.060 --> 33:59.200 about who was Tina, you know, 33:59.200 --> 34:03.320 as I myself was somewhat confused about who Tina was. 34:03.800 --> 34:04.860 You know, they may have thought, 34:05.000 --> 34:09.000 why would they just put the vice counsel in this house 34:09.000 --> 34:11.440 that was really for the DCM, 34:11.660 --> 34:13.980 the deputy chief of mission, or the station chief? 34:19.220 --> 34:21.740 What this trip kind of clarifies to me, 34:22.380 --> 34:24.040 you know, the arc. 34:24.040 --> 34:27.860 Which is a bunch of CIA guys 34:27.860 --> 34:30.600 being sent here year after year after year 34:30.600 --> 34:32.680 and being able to do absolutely nothing 34:32.680 --> 34:34.520 because the Cubans are so good 34:34.520 --> 34:37.040 at preventing them from doing anything. 34:37.800 --> 34:39.280 And they get harassed, 34:39.560 --> 34:42.000 usually nothing big, 34:42.760 --> 34:43.980 like minor annoyances. 34:45.340 --> 34:47.300 Then, once the opening happens, 34:47.760 --> 34:49.020 the CIA sees an opportunity 34:49.020 --> 34:50.940 to ramp up its activities here. 34:51.460 --> 34:52.900 And it's beginning to happen. 34:54.040 --> 34:55.780 And the Cubans get afraid 34:55.780 --> 34:58.320 that they're losing control 34:58.320 --> 35:00.660 and that this was a Trojan horse. 35:00.880 --> 35:01.760 And so they decide, 35:02.000 --> 35:03.820 we need to set the Americans back. 35:04.200 --> 35:05.460 We need to neuter the station. 35:06.320 --> 35:08.360 So they decide, you know, 35:08.460 --> 35:09.560 to ramp it up. 35:09.920 --> 35:11.340 And it's step by step. 35:11.640 --> 35:12.620 It's scorpions, 35:12.760 --> 35:13.640 pissing on shirts, 35:13.840 --> 35:14.600 flat tires, 35:15.240 --> 35:16.180 messages on cars. 35:16.180 --> 35:17.980 These are the kind of things 35:17.980 --> 35:19.200 that are escalating 35:19.200 --> 35:20.240 from what it used to be. 35:20.460 --> 35:23.580 But nothing incredibly dramatic. 35:24.540 --> 35:25.520 And then suddenly, 35:26.220 --> 35:28.180 something really dramatic 35:29.080 --> 35:30.240 and totally strange 35:30.240 --> 35:31.880 and unprecedented happens. 35:31.880 --> 35:55.040 There's the entrance to the Nacional. 35:55.040 --> 35:57.000 The Hotel Nacional 35:57.000 --> 35:58.200 is in the heart of Havana 35:58.200 --> 35:59.860 in a neighborhood called Vedado, 36:00.360 --> 36:01.520 overlooking the seawall. 36:02.180 --> 36:03.420 You can sort of map Havana 36:03.420 --> 36:04.820 by its iconic hotels. 36:05.740 --> 36:07.180 The Nacional, to this day, 36:07.260 --> 36:09.620 is where all the VIPs 36:09.620 --> 36:11.600 and celebrities are herded to. 36:12.660 --> 36:13.320 And, you know, 36:13.580 --> 36:14.860 everybody wants to stay there 36:14.860 --> 36:15.640 or to have a drink 36:15.640 --> 36:16.920 or a sandwich 36:16.920 --> 36:19.780 in its culinary cafe. 36:19.780 --> 36:21.840 Just half a block away 36:21.840 --> 36:23.580 is another legendary hotel. 36:23.980 --> 36:25.120 And to the right 36:25.120 --> 36:25.600 is where, 36:25.720 --> 36:26.320 is the Capri. 36:26.820 --> 36:27.360 The Capri, 36:27.620 --> 36:28.020 basically, 36:28.620 --> 36:30.340 kind of the ultimate mob hotel, 36:30.720 --> 36:32.180 inaugurated just a few years 36:32.180 --> 36:33.080 before the revolution. 36:34.120 --> 36:34.920 Mayor Lansky 36:34.920 --> 36:37.580 was the front man 36:37.580 --> 36:38.420 for this hotel. 36:39.300 --> 36:39.920 Sinatra played 36:39.920 --> 36:40.720 in all these places. 36:42.000 --> 36:42.500 And so, 36:42.940 --> 36:44.300 this is just very much, 36:45.480 --> 36:46.360 it's almost like 36:46.360 --> 36:48.660 the archetypal mob hotel 36:48.660 --> 36:50.240 of the late 50s 36:50.240 --> 36:51.660 when Havana 36:51.660 --> 36:52.700 was a dirty playground 36:52.700 --> 36:53.420 for Americans. 36:53.960 --> 36:54.640 Every so often, 36:54.760 --> 36:55.800 they fix the Capri up 36:55.800 --> 36:56.880 as a place for tourists. 36:57.040 --> 36:58.440 But it's never quite overcome 36:58.440 --> 36:59.300 its reputation 36:59.300 --> 37:00.500 as a sleazy place. 37:00.920 --> 37:02.180 There's an adjoining nightclub 37:02.180 --> 37:03.340 that's quite the scene. 37:04.480 --> 37:06.000 It's also one of the hotels 37:06.000 --> 37:07.440 that U.S. officials stay at 37:07.440 --> 37:08.900 when they're only in Havana 37:08.900 --> 37:09.920 for a few days. 37:10.260 --> 37:11.960 It's got the Flying Eves entrance. 37:12.680 --> 37:13.660 What I'm about to say 37:13.660 --> 37:14.740 hasn't been reported 37:14.740 --> 37:15.780 anywhere before 37:15.780 --> 37:17.320 because I only recently 37:17.320 --> 37:18.480 learned these details. 37:19.180 --> 37:20.660 In March 2017, 37:21.300 --> 37:22.580 the CIA sends down 37:22.580 --> 37:23.680 an undercover officer 37:23.680 --> 37:25.120 for a short assignment. 37:25.900 --> 37:26.900 Her job is to make sure 37:26.900 --> 37:28.000 the SCIF is secure. 37:28.640 --> 37:29.420 My understanding is 37:29.420 --> 37:29.860 that she was 37:29.860 --> 37:30.920 a computer technician 37:30.920 --> 37:32.040 and she checks 37:32.040 --> 37:32.780 into the Capri 37:32.780 --> 37:34.840 and she's only down 37:34.840 --> 37:35.460 for a couple days 37:35.460 --> 37:36.940 and then while she's there 37:36.940 --> 37:38.860 she has this happen to her. 37:39.000 --> 37:39.980 This is the first case 37:39.980 --> 37:40.900 that they know of 37:40.900 --> 37:42.040 that did not take place 37:42.040 --> 37:42.860 in a residence. 37:43.620 --> 37:45.220 So for them to do this 37:45.220 --> 37:45.960 in a hotel 37:45.960 --> 37:48.460 seemed incredibly targeted 37:48.460 --> 37:50.260 and suggested that this 37:50.260 --> 37:51.140 was a directed, 37:52.580 --> 37:52.780 you know, 37:53.100 --> 37:54.420 carefully orchestrated, 37:55.200 --> 37:57.600 incredibly mobile mechanism 37:57.600 --> 37:58.800 that was being 37:58.800 --> 38:00.380 apparently used 38:00.380 --> 38:01.300 to target 38:01.300 --> 38:03.080 undercover CIA officers. 38:03.300 --> 38:04.960 It really sent shockwaves 38:04.960 --> 38:06.460 through the CIA. 38:06.800 --> 38:08.180 Word is starting to spread 38:08.180 --> 38:09.200 amongst the diplomats 38:09.200 --> 38:10.080 stationed in Havana 38:10.080 --> 38:11.980 that there's this mystery sickness 38:11.980 --> 38:13.280 mowing people down. 38:13.280 --> 38:15.360 people are starting to panic. 38:16.040 --> 38:16.980 So a few weeks after 38:16.980 --> 38:17.980 that CIA officer 38:17.980 --> 38:19.220 gets sick during her stay 38:19.220 --> 38:20.260 at the Capri Hotel, 38:20.760 --> 38:21.800 three government doctors 38:21.800 --> 38:22.460 are sent down. 38:23.200 --> 38:24.060 One of them works 38:24.060 --> 38:24.640 for the CIA. 38:24.920 --> 38:26.100 So their job is basically 38:26.100 --> 38:26.860 to make sure people 38:26.860 --> 38:27.580 are taken care of. 38:28.240 --> 38:28.880 For example, 38:29.080 --> 38:29.500 when a, 38:29.620 --> 38:32.140 if a CIA person 38:32.140 --> 38:32.920 wakes up 38:32.920 --> 38:33.760 in the basement 38:33.760 --> 38:35.080 of a building 38:35.080 --> 38:36.820 with an IV in his arm 38:36.820 --> 38:38.480 and he doesn't remember 38:38.480 --> 38:39.240 what happened to him 38:39.240 --> 38:39.740 last night, 38:40.340 --> 38:41.800 they'll try to figure out, 38:41.800 --> 38:42.540 well, what was pumped 38:42.540 --> 38:43.280 into his arm. 38:43.780 --> 38:44.900 So these three doctors 38:44.900 --> 38:45.420 show up. 38:45.920 --> 38:47.060 They arrive at the airport. 38:47.540 --> 38:48.640 They're all traveling, 38:49.200 --> 38:50.240 including the CIA doctor, 38:50.440 --> 38:51.440 using a State Department 38:51.440 --> 38:52.180 identification. 38:52.760 --> 38:53.760 And they make their way 38:53.760 --> 38:54.380 to their hotel, 38:54.500 --> 38:55.460 which is the Capri Hotel. 38:56.400 --> 38:57.700 The CIA doctor 38:57.700 --> 38:58.940 is in a room 38:58.940 --> 39:00.340 on one of the upper floors, 39:00.960 --> 39:02.640 the 13th or the 14th floor. 39:03.480 --> 39:04.700 They arrive at around 39:04.700 --> 39:05.740 11 o'clock at night. 39:05.880 --> 39:06.840 They say goodbye to each other 39:06.840 --> 39:07.920 and they go to their rooms. 39:08.580 --> 39:09.120 And they, 39:09.140 --> 39:09.820 and they go to sleep. 39:10.900 --> 39:11.780 Early the next morning, 39:11.800 --> 39:13.900 the CIA doctor wakes up 39:13.900 --> 39:14.840 and feels weird. 39:15.840 --> 39:18.340 He experiences pressure 39:18.340 --> 39:19.580 and dizziness 39:19.580 --> 39:21.540 and ringing in the ears 39:21.540 --> 39:23.120 while he's in his room. 39:23.980 --> 39:25.060 It's starting to seem 39:25.060 --> 39:26.360 like no CIA officer 39:26.360 --> 39:27.860 in Havana is safe, 39:28.520 --> 39:30.060 even if they're only in town 39:30.060 --> 39:31.000 for a day or two, 39:31.320 --> 39:31.840 unannounced. 39:32.560 --> 39:33.160 And so, 39:33.500 --> 39:35.500 what happens after that 39:35.500 --> 39:38.000 is more temporary people 39:38.000 --> 39:38.540 come down 39:38.540 --> 39:39.700 to fill the holes 39:39.700 --> 39:40.380 that were left 39:40.380 --> 39:41.860 with the departure 39:41.860 --> 39:43.340 of the other agents 39:43.340 --> 39:44.640 and it starts happening 39:44.640 --> 39:45.300 to them too. 39:45.700 --> 39:47.100 And several people 39:47.100 --> 39:48.100 who were going to come 39:48.100 --> 39:49.660 decided not to go 39:49.660 --> 39:50.820 because they were concerned. 39:51.980 --> 39:53.460 And one particularly 39:53.460 --> 39:55.220 senior female analyst 39:55.220 --> 39:56.520 says she still wants 39:56.520 --> 39:57.000 to do this. 39:57.760 --> 39:58.380 She's coming down 39:58.380 --> 39:59.400 with one of her colleagues. 39:59.860 --> 40:00.920 They stay in the National, 40:00.920 --> 40:01.260 Novel, 40:01.520 --> 40:02.260 which is maybe 40:02.260 --> 40:04.460 a couple hundred yards 40:04.460 --> 40:06.880 towards the ocean, 40:07.440 --> 40:08.140 closer to the ocean. 40:09.180 --> 40:10.060 She's in the room, 40:10.340 --> 40:10.920 goes to sleep, 40:11.440 --> 40:13.100 and she wakes up 40:13.100 --> 40:13.840 in the middle of the night 40:13.840 --> 40:16.080 and she's feeling the pressure 40:16.080 --> 40:17.320 and she's hearing the sound 40:17.320 --> 40:18.540 that's been described 40:18.540 --> 40:20.380 by several of the other victims. 40:20.380 --> 40:25.020 So what we have gathered 40:25.020 --> 40:27.020 is that in the early months 40:27.020 --> 40:27.820 of this mystery, 40:28.300 --> 40:29.120 in 2017, 40:29.940 --> 40:31.140 several CIA personnel 40:31.140 --> 40:32.220 come down to Cuba 40:32.220 --> 40:33.940 only for short visits 40:33.940 --> 40:35.120 and they end up 40:35.120 --> 40:35.940 getting very sick. 40:36.820 --> 40:37.780 The officer, 40:38.140 --> 40:39.080 who is supposed to check 40:39.080 --> 40:39.640 on the SCIF, 40:40.000 --> 40:41.280 who experiences something 40:41.280 --> 40:41.940 at the Capri. 40:42.460 --> 40:43.560 A CIA doctor, 40:43.820 --> 40:44.880 who also gets sick 40:44.880 --> 40:45.540 at the Capri. 40:46.120 --> 40:48.300 And then a senior CIA analyst, 40:48.300 --> 40:49.940 who experiences something 40:49.940 --> 40:51.100 at the Hotel Nacional. 40:52.140 --> 40:53.620 That analyst returns 40:53.620 --> 40:54.340 to Washington, 40:54.640 --> 40:55.840 but she can't shake 40:55.840 --> 40:56.880 the damaging effects 40:56.880 --> 40:57.840 of whatever hit her. 41:00.300 --> 41:02.820 She's having terrible trouble 41:02.820 --> 41:03.500 with her vision. 41:04.220 --> 41:05.560 Her job is to read 41:05.560 --> 41:06.540 and write 41:06.540 --> 41:07.640 and she's struggling 41:07.640 --> 41:08.340 with reading. 41:08.920 --> 41:09.920 It got so bad 41:09.920 --> 41:11.020 that she's having trouble 41:11.020 --> 41:12.800 even driving her car. 41:13.560 --> 41:14.680 People at the White House 41:14.680 --> 41:15.880 who cover Cuba 41:15.880 --> 41:17.380 know who this woman is. 41:17.380 --> 41:18.460 Mike Pompeo, 41:18.540 --> 41:19.060 who at the time 41:19.060 --> 41:19.820 is the CIA director, 41:20.300 --> 41:21.240 knows who she is. 41:21.960 --> 41:23.640 So when this happens 41:23.640 --> 41:24.140 to her, 41:24.780 --> 41:25.720 it's a game changer. 41:26.780 --> 41:28.080 Before that incident, 41:28.420 --> 41:29.120 it wasn't clear 41:29.120 --> 41:29.880 what the CIA 41:29.880 --> 41:30.840 was going to do about this. 41:31.260 --> 41:32.520 It took this case 41:32.520 --> 41:34.300 to convince 41:34.300 --> 41:35.980 the director of the CIA 41:35.980 --> 41:38.240 that he couldn't protect 41:38.240 --> 41:38.800 the personnel 41:38.800 --> 41:40.460 that worked at the station 41:40.460 --> 41:43.740 and that the benefits 41:43.740 --> 41:45.560 of having them there 41:45.560 --> 41:46.800 were not as great 41:46.800 --> 41:48.940 as the threat 41:48.940 --> 41:50.280 that they faced 41:50.280 --> 41:51.200 operating here. 41:51.740 --> 41:52.480 And he took 41:52.480 --> 41:53.760 the extraordinary step 41:53.760 --> 41:55.700 of closing down 41:55.700 --> 41:56.440 the CIA station. 41:56.440 --> 42:11.880 If you game this out 42:11.880 --> 42:13.260 and it is 42:13.260 --> 42:14.660 the Cuban intelligence, 42:15.660 --> 42:16.920 if it is them, 42:17.020 --> 42:17.960 I believe that 42:17.960 --> 42:19.280 at least a handful 42:19.280 --> 42:20.000 of individuals 42:20.000 --> 42:21.080 would have had to have known 42:21.080 --> 42:21.960 or been involved. 42:21.960 --> 42:25.120 Before we leave Cuba, 42:25.240 --> 42:26.160 we meet in our hotel 42:26.160 --> 42:27.200 to try to make sense 42:27.200 --> 42:28.260 of everything we've seen. 42:28.860 --> 42:29.720 Could the Cuban government 42:29.720 --> 42:30.780 really have been behind 42:30.780 --> 42:31.560 the Havana syndrome? 42:32.380 --> 42:33.040 And if so, 42:33.520 --> 42:34.080 what would that 42:34.080 --> 42:35.120 actually look like? 42:35.560 --> 42:36.440 What could they have used 42:36.440 --> 42:37.120 to target 42:37.120 --> 42:38.140 those diplomats 42:38.140 --> 42:38.820 and spies? 42:39.340 --> 42:41.000 There's an easy 42:41.000 --> 42:42.040 counter-argument 42:42.040 --> 42:42.760 to all of that, 42:42.880 --> 42:44.260 which is the technology. 42:44.620 --> 42:45.180 Producer, 42:45.520 --> 42:46.860 Ramon Campos-Iriarte. 42:47.300 --> 42:48.740 We've talked to experts 42:48.740 --> 42:50.020 who all believe 42:50.020 --> 42:51.300 this is not something 42:51.300 --> 42:52.820 you can go and buy 42:52.820 --> 42:53.840 at a radio shack. 42:55.020 --> 42:56.100 So it's not like 42:56.100 --> 42:56.880 the Cubans 42:56.880 --> 42:57.860 could have been like, 42:57.980 --> 42:58.400 OK, well, 42:58.500 --> 42:59.280 this is the moment 42:59.280 --> 42:59.840 to do this. 42:59.920 --> 43:00.320 Let's just 43:00.320 --> 43:02.000 out of the magic bag 43:02.000 --> 43:02.980 this amazing 43:02.980 --> 43:04.000 freaking technology 43:04.000 --> 43:05.220 that no one's ever seen 43:05.220 --> 43:06.080 or heard of 43:06.080 --> 43:07.560 and just put it to use 43:07.560 --> 43:08.420 next week. 43:09.020 --> 43:10.080 If it happened 43:10.080 --> 43:10.840 with the compliance 43:10.840 --> 43:11.560 of the Cubans, 43:11.700 --> 43:12.360 they must have been 43:12.360 --> 43:13.540 approached by someone else. 43:16.860 --> 43:20.520 Fair point, 43:20.840 --> 43:22.200 because not long 43:22.200 --> 43:22.940 after the Americans 43:22.940 --> 43:23.860 pull out of Cuba, 43:24.200 --> 43:24.800 this thing, 43:25.140 --> 43:26.480 these unexplained incidents, 43:26.980 --> 43:27.880 start popping up 43:27.880 --> 43:28.840 thousands of miles 43:28.840 --> 43:29.740 away from the island, 43:30.160 --> 43:31.320 as far away 43:31.320 --> 43:31.900 from Havana 43:31.900 --> 43:32.660 as Moscow 43:32.660 --> 43:34.840 and Guangzhou, China. 43:39.620 --> 43:40.960 That's next time 43:40.960 --> 43:41.880 on Havana Syndrome. 43:46.860 --> 44:00.580 Havana Syndrome 44:00.580 --> 44:01.660 is hosted and reported 44:01.660 --> 44:02.700 by Adam Entous 44:02.700 --> 44:03.280 and me, 44:03.560 --> 44:04.280 John Lee Anderson. 44:04.800 --> 44:05.900 It's produced and reported 44:05.900 --> 44:06.920 by Julia Nutter, 44:07.240 --> 44:08.700 Jesse Alejandra Cottrell 44:08.700 --> 44:10.360 and Ramon Campos-Iriarte 44:10.360 --> 44:11.420 and edited 44:11.420 --> 44:12.840 and executive produced 44:12.840 --> 44:13.780 by Annie Aviles 44:13.780 --> 44:15.420 and Kate Osborne 44:15.420 --> 44:16.940 with original composition 44:16.940 --> 44:17.980 and sound design 44:17.980 --> 44:18.980 by Steve Bone. 44:18.980 --> 44:21.980 in the audience, 44:25.020 --> 44:26.340 in the audience. 44:26.540 --> 44:26.840 I'll tell you 44:26.840 --> 44:27.400 I'll tell you 44:27.400 --> 44:28.960 in the audience. 44:31.040 --> 44:32.360 On the way, 44:32.380 --> 44:33.000 I'm owned, 44:33.000 --> 44:33.980 I'll tell you 44:33.980 --> 44:35.160 in the audience. 44:35.840 --> 44:36.880 in the audience. 44:41.040 --> 44:45.560 I'm out.