ScienceDaily Magazine -- MIT's Plasmatron For Cutting = Car Pollutants Is Significant Step Closer To Road Tests

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From: Juan de la Cruz Barrios <jdelac@sinectis.com.ar>

To: <freenrg-l@eskimo.com><= /DIV>

Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 9:16 AM

Subject: Re: Permanent Magnet motor breakthrough=20 !

> Hello all,
>
> The right = link=20 is:
> http://www.nidlink.com/= ~john1/motor.html
>=20
> Greetings, Juan
>
>
> Nancy May = escribi=F3:
>=20
> > Hi Stefan and all, H.Johnson,T. Bearden, J. Bedini, = and=20 R.Cole come up with
> > one a while back. Check it = out. http://www.nidlink.com= /~john1/motor/.html
>=20 > Joe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> = >=20 From: Stefan Hartmann <harti@harti.com>
> > To: = Free=20 Energy <freenrg-l@eskimo.com>;=20 Newman-L Mailing List
> > <newman-l@emachine.com>
&g= t; >=20 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 4:42 PM
> > Subject: = Permanent Magnet=20 motor breakthrough !
> >
> > > Hi,
> >=20 >
> > > I just spoke with the German
> > > = fellow=20 Helmut Goebkes,
> > > who had claimed on the JLN = eGroups=20 site
> > > http://www.egroups.com/gro= up/jlnlabs/
>=20 > > to have a 5 to 8 minutes running
> > > permanent = magnet=20 motor !
> > > He is a serious engineer, who has studied=20 physics
> > > and he sounded very reliable on the = phone.
>=20 > >
> > > He told me how it works:
> > = >
>=20 > > He uses a about 25 cm diameter Aluminium rotor cylinder, where = he=20 had
> > > glued
> > > about 24 Neodymn magnets = onto the=20 surface, all with one pole showing
> > > outwards,
> = > >=20 e.g. northpole.
> > > (He says, the pole configuration does = not=20 matter, if all south poles or
> > > all north poles
> = >=20 > outwards does not matter...)
> > >
> > > = Then he=20 used ONE stator magnet , also northpole with a special iron bar
> = >=20 > core put in front of it,
> > > so the iron core faces = the rotor=20 magnets with some distance (air gap)!
> > > The iron core = has=20 different thickness over its length and is several
> > > cms = long,=20 so at the farest point away from the stator magnet the iron
> > = >=20 bar already
> > > acts like normal iron, so the rotor = magnets are=20 attracted to this iron
> > > core.
> > > This = way the=20 rotor is accelerated.
> > > Then there is a "zero attraction = zone"=20 inside the center of the iron
> > > core and then,
> = > >=20 where the stator magnet is behind the iron core, is the repulsion zone = !
>=20 > >
> > > It is very important to have the repulsion = zone at=20 the right angle so
> > > there exists a netto torque onto = the=20 rotor.
> > > Also the thickness variation of the iron core = is very=20 important along
> > > its way.
> > >
> = > >=20 The rotor accelerated up until about 120 rev/min but then stopped = after
>=20 > > about 5 to 8 minutes
> > > he told me... Now he = has to=20 examine, why it stopped.
> > > Maybe too many eddy current = losses or=20 the iron core gets saturated by
> > > remanenz B = field
> >=20 > or something simular...
> > >
> > > But = there was a=20 real torque on the shaft, he told me.
> > > Now he wants to = try=20 different shaped iron cores with iron pulver glued
> > >=20 together
> > > with expoy glue.
> > > He laso = wants to=20 try a sychronized 2 rotor version.
> > >
> > > = He will=20 soon publish it, when it will all work reliable
> > > = without=20 stopping.
> > >
> > > So far the first = impressions from=20 the first phone call with him.
> > > It sounds pretty good = and this=20 is the most easy design...
> > > it had to be this easy, so = nobody=20 would have ever thought it could be
> > > this easy = !
> >=20 > --
> > >
> > > Best regards, Stefan=20 Hartmann.
> > > --
> > > Hartmann Multimedia=20 Service,
> > > Dipl. Ing. Stefan Hartmann, Keplerstr. 11 B, = 10589=20 Berlin, Germany
> > > Tel: +49 30 345 00 497, FAX: +49 30 = 345 00=20 498
> > > email: harti@harti.com info@ccard.net
> > > http://ccard.net fuer Ihren Verkauf im WEB = !
>=20 > >
> > >
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF3813.7D2E8CC0-- From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Fri Nov 26 12:45:50 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id MAA31641; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:45:38 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:45:38 -0800 Message-ID: <383EF1CC.56E2@cyberportal.net> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:47:08 -0500 From: "Bruce A. Perreault" Reply-To: nuenergy@cyberportal.net Organization: Nu Energy Horizons X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Gondert CC: nuenergy@listbot.com, nuenergy2@listbot.com, freenrg-L@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Chernoybyl reopening References: <383EB0F0.21D5F983@teleweb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"J76cP.0.Ek7.n5lFu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13068 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com > > What is your opinion that Ukraine is planning on powering up reactor 1 > at Chernoybyl nuclear power plant? This is maybe not such a good idea. There is an awful mess. > > You claimed that most people haven't seen anyone with radiation poisening > and radiation isn't so bad. I never said that there is not such a thing. Conventional nuclear power plants are more deadly than anyone realizes. Fuel-rods are under extreme pressures at high pressure. Radioactive gasses have to be leaking into the atomosphere. If people only knew the half of it these plants would have been banned long ago. These types of reactors are only their for one reason and it is not to give us cheap electrical power. These plants are manufacturing weapons grade material at the expense of the people and the environment. > > Does that apply to the many who died several years ago when Chernoybyl > 'blew up"? I have said from the begining that these plants are deadly toxic. I spoke out about nuclear power plants since 1996. -Bruce A. Perreault From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Fri Nov 26 15:16:06 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id PAA30905; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:16:04 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:16:04 -0800 Message-ID: <383F14AC.12A06D6A@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:15:56 -0800 From: eks1 Reply-To: eks1@earthlink.net Organization: Systems Research Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,en-GB,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freenrg-L@eskimo.com" Subject: The paradigms of greed and nuclear power Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"u0Psy2.0.oY7.pInFu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13069 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Just to keep this issue in proper focus, the problems that plague conventional fission reactors are entirely monetary. There are no technical issues that cannot be solved, it is merely a case of the costs involved. And you know who's most driven to manage the costs - don't you?? Unfortunately, we tend to allow the utility companies to operate an active and profitary monopoly on domestic power generation. They function as semi-private corporations, in that their autonomy in the decision-making process is not really subject to strict peer-level review for safety matters. Forget everything that the political arena has brain washed you into believing, utility companies pretty much do what they damn well please, with only minor and infrequent disruptions from concerned citizen groups, the Public Utility Comissions, and even the once politically-powerful NRC. Decisions that should have been made by structural engineers, were over-ruled by the management at each and every one of these companies. This is and has been a historical FACT ever since Day 1 at the Edison Dynamo facilities. Management loves to win, and the measure of each win is only the bottomline. Follow the MONEY TRAIL...it will lead you to the TRUTH! The incidents that are all too well documented at Kerr-McGee's Fuel Rod Div. are really the tip of the proverbial iceberg! If you had to guess, would you knowingly allow a company to become a major player in something as dangerous as manufacturing nuclear reactor rods, when they couldn't even manage to meet the relatively minor environmental laws of the 1950's regarding the mining of crude oil?? Nuclear power could have been "Inherently Safe" and "Too cheap to Meter", but for the fact that greed came into play. You can blame the MBA-morons for this! We (Humanity) tend to forget, in our zeal to honor the free enterprise system, that allowing the lowest bidder to do things isn't always in our best interests. There is also this glaring error that is made each and every day at major corporations all over the globe: Allowing management personel, without sufficient background or training, to make decisions that should be left to those persons with scientific and engineering experience. Motivated only by greed, these managers will nominally decide issues based on the immediate bottomline costs, without regard for the future costs of cleaning up after such shortsightedness! The Harvard Business School of Management has been preaching micromanagement as a guiding light for close to 200 years in one form or another. I feel it is time to wrest control of our Future from these swine and their petty game of egoic politics, before it really is too late! I personally favor decentralized power generation, it can reduce the political graft and greed amongst our people by 50%, given that our civilization spends 50% of it's time and resources chasing after energy. Free energy really WILL change us for the better! Good luck then, to each and everyone of us, in our search for this Holy Grail. -Erik From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Fri Nov 26 17:30:00 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id RAA24251; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:29:54 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:29:54 -0800 Message-ID: <383F3665.AD967A31@erie.net> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:39:49 -0500 From: Norm Biss X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freenrg-l@eskimo.com" Subject: [Fwd: [free_energy] Second Prototype finished] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------939D7CCAE557880B49C5163D" Resent-Message-ID: <"jmopG1.0.qw5.IGpFu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13070 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com --------------939D7CCAE557880B49C5163D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all interested list members: I have just released the following post to another list, and am forwarding it to the freenergy list for information purposes. I am not attempting to generate a discussion. Thank You Regards, Norm Biss -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [free_energy] Second Prototype finished Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:16:22 -0500 From: Norm Biss To: "free_energy@onelist.com" To: All interested list members. I have finally finished the second prototype motor. I have not been in any hurry to do this, since my regular work responsibilities come first. In designing and building the second Prototype, I have finally been able to produce a motor which will show beyond a doubt whether Joe Newman's theory is valid. This motor has two interchangeable armatures. One is wound in the conventional manner, and one is wound utilizing Newman's "technology". Because of this, I can compare the differences between two motors, and the playing field is leveled. In addition, the second prototype is designed as a sealed motor so that Liquid Nitrogen can be pumped thru the motor, which will reduce resistance in the windings, and also increase the efficiency of conductivity. The slots in the Newman version are one-half the number of slots in the conventional version. In addition, the wire in the Newman version is 7 gauges smaller than the wire in the conventional version. Unlike Mr. Newman, I cannot obtain data from a ten minute, or even a ten hour test. These tests are going to consume the better part of a month to conduct, because I have to be able to determine durability, as well as cumulative effects on all the components. I need to determine wear and damage to the brushes and commutator in the comparison tests. In addition, I have to determine the decay rate of battery voltage between the two versions. Mr. Newman declares that his version recharges the batterys. If this is the case, his version will run forever. This is one test that Mr. Newman will not do. (That is, hook it up to his batterys, and just let it run unmolested for a couple of weeks). If, in fact, the motor is still running after two weeks on the original set of batterys, and the voltage has not appreciably been reduced, then he may be on to something. However, I suspect that Mr. Newman has been buying batterys on a regular basis. If this is the case, well............... I have not had much chance to get on the net lately, and I rather doubt I will have much chance in the near future. If anyone sends me email, and I don't immediately respond, please do not think that I am ignoring you. I am documenting everything, and will publish the results when the tests are completed. At that time, I will attempt to answer all questions regarding the tests. Thank You. Regards, Norm Biss Erie, Pa. 11-26-99 normpems@erie.net --------------939D7CCAE557880B49C5163D Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all interested list members:

I have just released the following post to another list, and am forwarding it to the freenergy list for information purposes. I am not attempting to generate a discussion.

Thank You

Regards,

Norm Biss

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Subject: [free_energy] Second Prototype finished

Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:16:22 -0500

From: Norm Biss <normpems@erie.net>

To: "free_energy@onelist.com" <free_energy@onelist.com>

Subject:	[free_energy] Second Prototype finished
Date:	Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:16:22 -0500
From:	Norm Biss <normpems@erie.net>
To:	"free_energy@onelist.com" <free_energy@onelist.com>

To: All interested list members.

I have finally finished the second prototype motor. I have not been in any hurry to do this, since my regular work responsibilities come first.

In designing and building the second Prototype, I have finally been able to produce a motor which will show beyond a doubt whether Joe Newman's theory is valid. This motor has two interchangeable armatures. One is wound in the conventional manner, and one is wound utilizing Newman's "technology". Because of this, I can compare the differences between two motors, and the playing field is leveled.

In addition, the second prototype is designed as a sealed motor so that Liquid Nitrogen can be pumped thru the motor, which will reduce resistance in the windings, and also increase the efficiency of conductivity.

The slots in the Newman version are one-half the number of slots in the conventional version. In addition, the wire in the Newman version is 7 gauges smaller than the wire in the conventional version.

Unlike Mr. Newman, I cannot obtain data from a ten minute, or even a ten hour test. These tests are going to consume the better part of a month to conduct, because I have to be able to determine durability, as well as cumulative effects on all the components. I need to determine wear and damage to the brushes and commutator in the comparison tests. In addition, I have to determine the decay rate of battery voltage between the two versions.

Mr. Newman declares that his version recharges the batterys. If this is the case, his version will run forever. This is one test that Mr. Newman will not do. (That is, hook it up to his batterys, and just let it run unmolested for a couple of weeks). If, in fact, the motor is still running after two weeks on the original set of batterys, and the voltage has not appreciably been reduced, then he may be on to something. However, I suspect that Mr. Newman has been buying batterys on a regular basis. If this is the case, well...............

I have not had much chance to get on the net lately, and I rather doubt I will have much chance in the near future. If anyone sends me email, and I don't immediately respond, please do not think that I am ignoring you. I am documenting everything, and will publish the results when the tests are completed. At that time, I will attempt to answer all questions regarding the tests.

Thank You.

Regards,

Norm Biss
Erie, Pa.
11-26-99

normpems@erie.net --------------939D7CCAE557880B49C5163D-- From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Fri Nov 26 18:48:50 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id SAA09108; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:48:46 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:48:46 -0800 From: Robin van Spaandonk To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Engine Ping Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:48:42 +1100 Organization: Improving Message-ID: References: <3837FE88.5164@cyberportal.net> <38394F8F.2A8D@cyberportal.net> <383A8891.6792@cyberportal.net> <7klm3s88c3e3o34e79evuv47tq58kok0kh@4ax.com> <383E7F5D.6B 15@cyberportal.net> In-Reply-To: <383E7F5D.6B15@cyberportal.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mx1.eskimo.com id SAA09083 Resent-Message-ID: <"-7A_F1.0.DE2.EQqFu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13071 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:38:53 -0500, Bruce A. Perreault wrote: >Robin, > >You are always going completely to the books. >What if all of the energy is not coming from >the alpha particles... maybe they are a doorway >to energy from the ambiant? What I am saying is >that you need to balance theory with actual hardware. [snip] Bruce, it is true that I always go to the books to look for the results of experiments that others have done before me, to save me the time and trouble of doing the experiments myself. I also base my posts on my "mental model" of how I expect things to work. Whether or not others find my posts convincing, is up to them. If they have any doubt, then they should by all means do the experiment, and find out for themselves. After all, my model is just a model, and is indeed based on standard theory, and leaves little or no room for anomalous phenomena. It does however serve as a base against which people can compare the results they get. If anyone gets a result that is contrary to my predictions, I'll definitely sit up and take notice. And the better they document those results, the more notice I will take. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Fri Nov 26 22:27:35 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id WAA12371; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:27:29 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:27:29 -0800 From: MKSBoysal@aol.com Message-ID: <0.38938bbd.2570d3cc@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 01:27:24 EST Subject: Re: Mechanical energy machine ? To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Resent-Message-ID: <"wYpB_3.0.813.HdtFu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13072 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com << Hi Stefan, Have you seen this page? How The Invention Works its very amusing, yet I would say very smart, guy to think all the contraptions. Its seems can work, (in my perception) one probably easy convert a bicycle to make this unusual contraption, :-). Mehmet.>> > Has anybody understood how this works ? > > http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Facility/8418/index.html > > Regards, Stefan From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sat Nov 27 06:56:44 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id GAA05732; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 06:56:35 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 06:56:35 -0800 Message-ID: <383FF179.C8D@cyberportal.net> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:58:01 -0500 From: "Bruce A. Perreault" Reply-To: nuenergy@cyberportal.net Organization: Nu Energy Horizons X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Gondert CC: nuenergy@listbot.com, nuenergy2@listbot.com Subject: Re: Radiation fears References: <383EB0F0.21D5F983@teleweb.net> <383EF1CC.56E2@cyberportal.net> <383F129C.46DBC@teleweb.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9zKW91.0.TP1.Z4_Fu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13073 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com > > > I'm not expert on nuclear radiation but why are the radioactive devices > you propose for energy so much safer? My reactions do not produce deadly radio toxins like strontium-90 etc... > > Is it just a matter of amount of radiation? No... it is a matter of how the reaction is done. Nuclear reactors split the U-235 atom into hundreds of fragments. My method is a "kinder, gentler" type of reation. It is more controlled. > > Women who painted watches, clocks with radium paint had > high incidence of mouth cancer from what I read several > years ago. Yes... of course! They were eating the stuff! > > PS. Have you ever seen the claims by Dennis Lee that "Brown's Gas", a > stochiometric mix of hydrogen and oxygen, electrolysed from water can > burn and neutralize radioactive substances? See his webpage: > http://www.ucsofa.com for more information. Dennis Lee is also promoting > "Free Electricity" macines that allegedly produce 15kW with no external > power input required, just "run, run, run, run, run, run...." It may mask it but it won't neutralize it. The Patterson cell is another myth. The Patterson cell traps the radon and thoron gas and removes it from the heavy metals. It has not been neutralized... it is only depleted from it's source. -BAP From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sat Nov 27 07:15:28 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id HAA11478; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 07:15:26 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 07:15:26 -0800 Message-ID: <383FF5E5.806@cyberportal.net> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 10:16:53 -0500 From: "Bruce A. Perreault" Reply-To: nuenergy@cyberportal.net Organization: Nu Energy Horizons X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nu Energy Horizons CC: freenrg-L@eskimo.com, nuenergy2@listbot.com Subject: Re: Lead-iron detector & Geiger-Muller Tube. References: <383EC218.32176FA3@frontiercorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"egjZp2.0.Bp2.EM_Fu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13074 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com MARTIN WOLFF wrote: > > Bruce, was it by accident or design that the lead-iron detector looks > exactly like a geiger-muller tube - even down to the oxide coatings. This just happened to be the configuration of the design. My virtual lab partner when testing out my Perreault-valve discovered the glow effect and the term "glow-regulator" was born. He also discovered that a weird noise was being generated by his experimental set-up. Ossie later found that using lead-iron in a spark-gap lit up a lamp brightly in a circuit that was fed by high-voltage at high frequency. I later incorporated this metal combination into the "glow-regulator" design and now into the Perreault-valve. > > You have always said that a radiation source makes it work > better - this might be why. The detector may very well be responding to the cosmic-rays... I do not know for sure... this is an educated guess at this point... more experiments will have to be done. -BAP From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sat Nov 27 07:37:32 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id HAA14647; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 07:37:30 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 07:37:30 -0800 Message-ID: <383FFB11.3FB0@cyberportal.net> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 10:38:57 -0500 From: "Bruce A. Perreault" Reply-To: nuenergy@cyberportal.net Organization: Nu Energy Horizons X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: H2OPWRD@aol.com Subject: Perreault Improved Meyer Hydrogen Generator References: <0.2db66795.256cd597@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"MqpfP.0.ma3.vg_Fu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13075 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Re: Improved Meyer Cell. Ok... I admit that I have a more inflated ego than most folks... perhaps this is what gives me strength to move forward when others just give up. Why do people over-look the obvious? The Meyer cell is an ultra-sonic humidifier combined with electrolysis. This makes his cell very efficient. I have made an improvement by using parts from a store bought ultra-sonic humidifer! Add a cylinder within a cylinder type electrolyzer and you are ready to effect efficient hydrogen/oxygen gas seperation. This is what I think that the "Joe-Cell" is doing! The mechanical vibration from the engine is supplying the vibration for his cell to output ultra-sonics. This was the first impression that I got when I first saw the white mist coming from one of his cells. It is the same exact appearance that the ultrasonic humidifer produces. Why hasn't anyone else noticed this? I have sat back for months now just waiting for someone to make mention of this... no one has! So... now I come forward. So much for the "hydrino" theory. I don't mean to "belittle" anyone here. Just reporting how I see it from my point of view. Just remember who come forward with this... please... no questions... my improvement works... put this cell together... you do the numbers and figures... -Bruce A. Perreault November 20th, 1999. From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sat Nov 27 07:48:01 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id HAA17742; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 07:48:00 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 07:48:00 -0800 Message-ID: <383FFD84.4C9F@cyberportal.net> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 10:49:24 -0500 From: "Bruce A. Perreault" Reply-To: nuenergy@cyberportal.net Organization: Nu Energy Horizons X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freenrg-L@eskimo.com CC: nuenergy@listbot.com, nuenergy2@listbot.com Subject: Perreault Improved Meyer Hydrogen Generator (11/27/99) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fvvMj2.0.7L4.mq_Fu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13076 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Re: Improved Meyer Cell. Ok... I admit that I have a more inflated ego than most folks... perhaps this is what gives me strength to move forward when others just give up. Why do people over-look the obvious? The Meyer cell is an ultra-sonic humidifier combined with electrolysis. This makes his cell very efficient. I have made an improvement by using parts from a store bought ultra-sonic humidifer! Add a cylinder within a cylinder type electrolyzer and you are ready to effect efficient hydrogen/oxygen gas seperation. This is what I think that the "Joe-Cell" is doing! The mechanical vibration from the engine is supplying the vibration for his cell to output ultra-sonics. This was the first impression that I got when I first saw the white mist coming from one of his cells. It is the same exact appearance that the ultrasonic humidifer produces. Why hasn't anyone else noticed this? I have sat back for months now just waiting for someone to make mention of this... no one has! So... now I come forward. So much for the "hydrino" theory. I don't mean to "belittle" anyone here. Just reporting how I see it from my point of view. Just remember who come forward with this... please... no questions... my improvement works... put this cell together... you do the numbers and figures... -Bruce A. Perreault November 27th, 1999 From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sat Nov 27 09:16:20 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id JAA03341; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:16:16 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:16:16 -0800 Message-ID: <38401235.32E@cyberportal.net> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:17:41 -0500 From: "Bruce A. Perreault" Reply-To: nuenergy@cyberportal.net Organization: Nu Energy Horizons X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Say What is On your Mind!" CC: nuenergy@listbot.com, freenrg-L@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Perreault Improved Meyer Hydrogen Generator References: <19991127163522.48509.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"SORQd.0.6q.W71Gu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13077 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com > > Why do you hate my hydrinos? How can I hate something that in in my humble opinion does not exsist? > > The joe cell has no physical input. Oh contrare... it requires a small milliwatt direct current. > > The water can electrolyse and shake itself to hell, Yes... it does this because it is exposed to the ultrasound that the cell COULD be generating. In my improved Meyer type set-up the combination of ultrasound and electrolysis requires only a small electrolyzing current. I have no idea wait the ultrasonic wattage is. It could be that the ultrasound takes over where there is less electrical current. It would be good if someone on one of the lists has the time to find out just how efficient this system is. It would be an easy thing to confirm if the Joe-Cell is working on this principle or not. A simple ultrasonic translator to hear ultrasound can be obained from "Information Unlimited" in Amherst, NH. Please... don't shoot the messenger again... he is still recovering from when he was shoot last week. Shoot him in the wrong place and he will die... :( -Bruce A. Perreault From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sat Nov 27 14:30:11 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id OAA08004; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:30:04 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:30:04 -0800 From: JNaudin509@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c7969a25.2571b565@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:29:57 EST Subject: ARDA Mk3 : A GREAT STEP, "The Power On Board" test... To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 30 Resent-Message-ID: <"VczOL1.0.ty1.hj5Gu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13078 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Dear All, Today I have done an important experiment with the ARDA Mk3 (The Biefeld-Brown Effect Wing) : The "Power On Board" test (POB test) is a great step for the ARDA Project. The purpose of this test is to prove that a Biefeld-Brown effect flying wing is able to generate its OWN THRUST with its power supply "on board" and disconnected from the ground. In a previous test with the 1/4 scale mockup (see "The closed loop run" test), I have demonstrated that a light ARDA wing is able to propel itself, but in this case the HV generator was outside and someone could have said that the observed thrust was generated by the influence of the surrounding wiring setup (the frame) and some pure electrostatic forces due to HV generator placed outside the wing. So, to prove that the thrust is not generated by the wiring frame around the ARDA wing, this test uses a big and heavy ARDA wing ( 3.7 kg ) with its own HV power supply "on board". The "Power On Board" test has been done successfully on November 27th, 1999 ( 16h00 )... See the pictures and videos of the ARDA Mk3 EHD wing in action at : http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/delany/256/html/arda3pob.htm Tests are not yet finished..stay tuned.... Best Regards Email: Jnaudin509@aol.com Overunity Web site: http://members.aol.com/jnaudin509/index.htm eGroup:http://www.egroups.com/group/jlnlabs/ From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sat Nov 27 15:54:35 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id PAA27984; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 15:54:29 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 15:54:29 -0800 From: "Harvey Norris" To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Subject: Scalar Waves? Message-Id: <943746673.13030.434@excite.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 15:51:13 PST X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 207.220.167.58 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"mcthS2.0.9r6.qy6Gu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13079 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com I have placed a small article suggesting heterodyning as the source for high frequencies made by combining two 180 phased series resonances in mutual induction. I have now obtained mirror image currents about the x axis on the oscilloscope at the high frequency of 31,250 hz., where this was obtained by induction to a sensor coil.I do not think the mirror image is an illusion as it seems to correlate with the arcing. At the moment of arcing the circuit becomes parallel resonant, and the amount of electrons oscillating in the circuit from the series resonant phase vastly exceeds that drawn from the tank circuit formed during arcing. Have enclosed an extract. HDN Magnetic field lines take the path of least reluctance, so what should happen when they meet head on in opposite directions? They might fly off at right angles. Taking the sensor coil out about a foot outward from where the coils meet at midpoint in space is an area of space where the magnetic field is weaker. And the sensor shows this, by traveling from the pole area to this weak area by following the imaginary field lines. If we now turn this coil 90 degrees so that the coil is enclosing these field lines postulated at 90 degree angle to the actual magnetic field observed, one finds that this cancelled or double set of 180 phasings appears as a greater voltage than the normal method of induction effects from geometry give. In other words no signal should be present, but it gives one in excess to the normal method! With this kind of thing going on, a bifilar coil might be effective as a sensor instead of an ordinary inductor! HDN http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb124201 ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sun Nov 28 07:32:48 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id HAA32763; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 07:32:34 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 07:32:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199911281532.QAA27569@maria.ctv.es> Old-X-Envelope-To: From: "Vicente Jose Ramos" To: Subject: RE: Permanent Magnet motor breakthrough ! Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:59:36 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"W9HhA.0.q_7.HiKGu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13080 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com > > The right link is: > http://www.nidlink.com/~john1/motor.html > > Greetings, Juan Oh, no, Bedini again............ Vicente. From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sun Nov 28 07:58:24 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id HAA05644; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 07:58:23 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 07:58:23 -0800 Message-ID: <001f01bf39b9$cb0e2ca0$cc64fea9@FS11> From: "techlab" To: "Free Energy" Subject: CCFL Drivers Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:01:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"mGJI82.0.5O1.U4LGu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13081 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com We at last have received some comments from our CD's, one of which is the spec sheet on the CCFL driver showing more output than input. For a first blush thrill look at http://www.jkllamps.com/ and go to CCFL Inverter section, move down to the spec table on input and output. Rex A. From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sun Nov 28 09:14:07 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id JAA22629; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:13:59 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:13:59 -0800 Message-ID: <001001bf39dd$8efc0560$64f14ed8@may> From: "Nancy May" To: References: <199911281532.QAA27569@maria.ctv.es> Subject: Re: Permanent Magnet motor breakthrough ! Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:17:12 -0800 Organization: The May Family MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"bbZrg2.0.PX5.NBMGu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13082 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Good as any! > > > > The right link is: > > http://www.nidlink.com/~john1/motor.html > > > > Greetings, Juan > > > Oh, no, Bedini again............ > > Vicente. > > From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sun Nov 28 09:58:50 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id JAA30778; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:58:49 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:58:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199911281804.QAA01616@bigbox.plug-in.com.br> From: "Marcelo Puhl" Organization: Computec Ltda To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 15:59:13 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: CCFL Drivers Reply-to: mark@plug-in.com.br Priority: normal In-reply-to: <001f01bf39b9$cb0e2ca0$cc64fea9@FS11> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Resent-Message-ID: <"nFVaa.0.pW7.OrMGu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13083 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com > > For a first blush thrill look at http://www.jkllamps.com/ and go to CCFL > Inverter section, move down to the spec table on input and output. > > Rex A. > They stated "Vrms" in the output of the switchers. Are they sinusoidal ? Marcelo Puhl mark@plug-in.com.br ------------------------------------------- Get paid to surf the WEB ! Ganhe dinheiro enquanto surfa na Internet ! http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=DTJ608 ------------------------------------------- From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sun Nov 28 10:53:44 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id KAA11675; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:53:38 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:53:38 -0800 Message-ID: <000701bf39d2$3e63b360$cc64fea9@FS11> From: "techlab" To: , References: <199911281804.QAA01616@bigbox.plug-in.com.br> Subject: Re: CCFL Drivers Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:55:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"teT7x1.0.Gs2.oeNGu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13084 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com There term is quasi-sinusoidal. Under Applications Information, Document AI-001 they explain the square law operation and method of measurement with a VTC (vacuum thermocouple), which removes waveform consideration up to a few megahertz. They are a very interesting device and are short on parts for sure. Rex A. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcelo Puhl To: Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:59 AM Subject: Re: CCFL Drivers > > > > For a first blush thrill look at http://www.jkllamps.com/ and go to CCFL > > Inverter section, move down to the spec table on input and output. > > > > Rex A. > > > > They stated "Vrms" in the output of the switchers. Are they sinusoidal ? > > > Marcelo Puhl > mark@plug-in.com.br > ------------------------------------------- > Get paid to surf the WEB ! > Ganhe dinheiro enquanto surfa na Internet ! > http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=DTJ608 > ------------------------------------------- > From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sun Nov 28 19:20:23 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id TAA21288; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:20:18 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:20:18 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991129111915.008bfb60@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> X-Sender: jwinter@cyllene.uwa.edu.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:19:15 +0800 To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com From: John Winterflood Subject: Re: CCFL Drivers In-Reply-To: <199911281804.QAA01616@bigbox.plug-in.com.br> References: <001f01bf39b9$cb0e2ca0$cc64fea9@FS11> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"roqgm3.0.WC5.o3VGu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Reply-To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13085 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Marcelo Puhl wrote: >Rex A. wrote: >> For a first blush thrill look at http://www.jkllamps.com/ and go to CCFL >> Inverter section, move down to the spec table on input and output. > >They stated "Vrms" in the output of the switchers. Are they sinusoidal ? My guess is that the measured voltage is open-circuit, and the measured current is short-circuit - as these are the values of interest for driving a gas discharge type of device. You want to know if there will be enough voltage to break down the initial open-circuit, and once the discharge has started you want to know what current will flow into the now almost short-circuit load. After all if the output was greater than input, then with a tiny bit more engineering no input is required at all - so what is the point of specifying input requirements when it needn't have any! From freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Sun Nov 28 20:57:17 1999 Received: (from smartlst@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id UAA12674; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:57:11 -0800 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:57:11 -0800 Message-ID: <38420568.A72A3ACA@mail.admiral.ru> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:47:36 +0300 From: "Alexander V. Frolov" Reply-To: frolov@mail.admiral.ru Organization: Home Lab X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freenrg-l@eskimo.com CC: Newman-L Mailing List Subject: Re: Permanent Magnet motor breakthrough ! References: <383DD772.C8E29499@harti.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mLfb33.0.x53.dUWGu"@mx1> Resent-From: freenrg-l@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/13086 X-Loop: freenrg-l@eskimo.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-request@eskimo.com Dear Sirs, What about possible serious negative aspect of this design: two permanent magnets to work in opposite poles superposition should be demagnetized after some time of operation. Best regards, Alexander V. Frolov ---------- Stefan Hartmann wrote: > Hi, > > I just spoke with the German > fellow Helmut Goebkes, > who had claimed on the JLN eGroups site > http://www.egroups.com/group/jlnlabs/ > to have a 5 to 8 minutes running > permanent magnet motor ! > He is a serious engineer, who has studied physics > and he sounded very reliable on the phone. > > He told me how it works: > > He uses a about 25 cm diameter Aluminium rotor cylinder, where he had > glued > about 24 Neodymn magnets onto the surface, all with one pole showing > outwards, > e.g. northpole. > (He says, the pole configuration does not matter, if all south poles or > all north poles > outwards does not matter...) > > Then he used ONE stator magnet , also northpole with a special iron bar > core put in front of it, > so the iron core faces the rotor magnets with some distance (air gap)! > The iron core has different thickness over its length and is several > cms long, so at the farest point away from the stator magnet the iron > bar already > acts like normal iron, so the rotor magnets are attracted to this iron > core. > This way the rotor is accelerated. > Then there is a "zero attraction zone" inside the center of the iron > core and then, > where the stator magnet is behind the iron core, is the repulsion zone ! > > It is very important to have the repulsion zone at the right angle so > there exists a netto torque onto the rotor. > Also the thickness variation of the iron core is very important along > its way. > > The rotor accelerated up until about 120 rev/min but then stopped after > about 5 to 8 minutes > he told me... Now he has to examine, why it stopped. > Maybe too many eddy current losses or the iron core gets saturated by > remanenz B field > or something simular... > > But there was a real torque on the shaft, he told me. > Now he wants to try different shaped iron cores with iron pulver glued > together > with expoy glue. > He laso wants to try a sychronized 2 rotor version. > > He will soon publish it, when it will all work reliable > without stopping. > > So far the first impressions from the first phone call with him. > It sounds pretty good and this is the most easy design... > it had to be this easy, so nobody would have ever thought it could be > this easy ! > -- > > Best regards, Stefan Hartmann. > -- > Hartmann Multimedia Service, > Dipl. Ing. Stefan Hartmann, Keplerstr. 11 B, 10589 Berlin, Germany > Tel: +49 30 345 00 497, FAX: +49 30 345 00 498 > email: harti@harti.com info@ccard.net > http://ccard.net fuer Ihren Verkauf im WEB ! -- http://www.time-machine.spb.ru POB 37, 193024, St.-Petersburg, Russia 7-812-2747877

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